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---Logopened Sun Dec 16 00:00:45 2007
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00:04<noseguy>i installed debian today, and my totem's screen plays but without picture. mplayer works, but only in gl mode. i installed gstreamer stuff but no luck.
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00:06<susanne->okay so, i'm trying to install X on a headless box using vncserver. When I invoke, I get "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'". Google points me to editing /etc/vnc.conf to point to the font files, or a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or other various tips, none of which worked. What else am I missing?
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00:07<amphi>susanne-: try installing xfont-base perhap
00:07<|if3|355>how do I forcefully release a programs handle on /dev/dsp?
00:08<susanne->amphi: no joy, same error.
00:08<amphi>susanne-: it's just a alias in any case
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00:11<amphi>susanne-: here, for example, it's "fixed -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1"
00:11<amphi>susanne-: in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias
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00:24<alaya>why vnc?
00:25<alaya>|if3|355: shut it down or kill it
00:26<|if3|355>don't know what program is hogging it
00:26<|if3|355>that's the problem
00:27<alaya>|if3|355: lsof |grep dsp
00:28<noseguy>have an old ati 9200 card, had it working with older debians and the new gutsy ubuntu, trying to figure out howto get it to work with sids xorg-server-ati and xrandr - they seem to be an older version than ubuntu's - anyone here know howto?
00:31<|if3|355>nothing :(
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00:33<jay__>i did something stupid, then followed it up with another dumb thing now im stuck... I delete my /etc/apache2 directory now nothing works and i wasnt able to reinstall it via apt-get
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00:34<gsimmons>!tell jay__ -about confmiss
00:34<Giraffe_>anybody use konversation here?
00:34<alaya>|if3|355: lsof |grep snd
00:34<jay__>gsimmons, im confused, what do you mean
00:35<|if3|355>it might be free now
00:36<gsimmons>jay__: If you want to restore the default configuration files, you need to provide additional options (to dpkg) in your apt-get command. See the information provided to you privately by dpkg (the bot).
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00:38<jay__>gsimmons, i dont know what you mean by that
00:38<dpkg>the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
00:38<gsimmons>jay__: ^^^^^^^^^
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00:41<jay__>gsimmons, i just ran that command you provided and it didnt help :S
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00:42<gsimmons>jay__: Did you specify 'apache2.2-common' as the package name?
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00:43<jay__>gsimmons, no i specified apache2 as the package... however i just did that and i think it just worked
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00:45<jay__>gsimmons, the files are back but now when i try to start apache i get Syntax error on line 141 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
00:45<jay__>Invalid command 'Order', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
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00:47<gsimmons>jay__: Sounds like you don't have the mod_authz_host module enabled in your configuration.
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00:50<jay__>gsimmons, how do i fix that?
00:52<gsimmons>jay__: By enabling the mod_authz_host module in your configuration. Use "a2enmod authz_host" and restart Apache as directed.
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00:56<jay__>gsimmons, that worked now i can start apache but my var/www directory isnt listing ... The requested URL / was not found on this server.
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00:58<gsimmons>jay__: Sounds like the default site also isn't enabled. "a2ensite default" and restart/reload and directed.
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01:01<jay__>gsimmons, i feel like a box of problems.... Syntax error on line 20 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:
01:01<jay__>Invalid command 'ScriptAlias', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
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01:04<gsimmons>jay__: Again, another module not enabled in your configuration. Refer to the Directive Quick Reference <> for each invalid command reported and enable the relevant responsible module.
01:04<VVC>anybody know where iceweasel keep bookmarks, path?
01:06<jello>VVC: $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
01:06<Xenguy>VVC: find . -iname bookmarks.html
01:06<jay__>gsimmons, am i better off formating my computers because im really confused at this point
01:06<Xenguy>VVC: find ~ -iname bookmarks.html
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01:12<gsimmons>jay__: Apache doesn't know about the "ScriptAlias" directive, as the module which provides it isn't loaded in your current configuration. Use the Directive Quick Reference to determine which module provides it, then enable it using a2enmod.
01:14<jay__>gsimmons, i eneabled every apache module using webmin .... but now when i go to the localhost address it tries to download the file as phtml
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01:29<poysin>who knows about the website hacktissite
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01:32<awyatt>How can I change the keyboard layout in console for one user only in debian-testing?
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01:33<awyatt>loadkeys changes it at the kernel level and persists beyond the session.
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01:50<susanne->i've got a user even more moronic than me on my box, and she wants to make midnight commander look all pretty and have the keys work. she's logging in over putty. what do i need to fix (termcap, term setting, something else?) so that her function keys work and her high-bit ascii draws right?
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02:01<stew>susanne-: it works for me without changing anything
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02:04<susanne->doesn't for me. i have to use eg esc-6 for function keys, and i get high-bit characters with accent marks in place of line-drawing characters
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02:05<stew>susanne-: does it work with openssh and just not putty?
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02:06<susanne->stew: i'd never actually thought to check. yes, it's only putty. (and i hate putty ...)
02:10<stew>susanne-: does it work if you run putty as a newly added user or after moving ~/.putty ? the default settings work just fine for me, which seels to be "function keys send ESC[n~"
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02:18<susanne->stew: newly-added user, no. function keys seem to work if i set that setting to Linux, so that's resolved, but it doesn't resolve the high-bit characters
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02:21<stew>susanne-: what version of putty is this?
02:22<susanne->2007-10-16:r7759 for w32
02:22<stew>susanne-: look like the default in lenny is that it is using the "Use unicode line drawing code points" under "window--translation"
02:22<stew>oh, win32?
02:23<susanne->yeah. i've tried the default use unicode, and poor man's, and ansi/oem. but since this doesn't appear to be an issue on the server end i can buzz off and look elsewhere.
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02:25<susanne->i've got plenty of time to figure this out. moving all the data on the server migration i'm doing will take ... oh ... three or four days, by the looks of it.
02:26<susanne->and that's before i get to the stuff i can't afford to lose :-)
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02:55<victor>is there a quicktime package for debian?
02:56<maxamillion>victor: no
02:56<Alam_Debian>mplayer can play quicktime files
02:56<maxamillion>victor: there isn't, to the best of my knowledge, a quicktime package for linux at all
02:57<victor>what about a quicktime plugin for iceweasel?
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02:58<victor>Alam_Debian, can mplayer play windows media or real media streaming?
02:59<Eazy>how do I change the desktop enviornment with
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02:59<Alam_Debian>victor, yes
03:00<Alam_Debian>mozilla-mplayer is what you want to have mplayer play video in iceweasel
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03:02<victor>Alam_Debian, will mozilla-mplayer play quicktime audio?
03:02<Alam_Debian>yes, audio too
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03:05<Alam_Debian>note: you may need to 'sudo rm /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libtotem-*' to disable the totem plugins stealing from mplayer
03:05<Eazy>how do i switch from gonme to kde? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
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03:08<victor>Alam_Debian, do I need totem at all if I have installed mplayer?
03:08<vsayikiran>i have set power preferences to turn off my monitor after 5 mins but my moniter turn off after 15 mins. why?
03:09<vsayikiran>why does my monitor turns off after 15 mins when i have set the time of 5 mins. why does it delay by 10mins
03:09<Alam_Debian>no and yes, gnome-desktop-environment depends on totem
03:10<vsayikiran>is there any file or config script to change the time after which monitor can be automatically turned off
03:11<vsayikiran>why doesn't anybody respond to my questions
03:11<vsayikiran>isn't there anyone to answer this simple question
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03:11<vsayikiran>this is the most boring channel i have ever seen
03:12<Alam_Debian>no, yea no one knows the answer
03:12[~]Alam_Debian kills his sleepily hards
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03:13<vsayikiran>Alam_Debian: did you experience the same problem in your computer
03:13<Alam_Debian>yes, yes I do
03:14<Alam_Debian>mine is set to 40 min but....
03:14<vsayikiran>Alam_Debian: do you know is there any script or config file where i can change this
03:15<Alam_Debian>if I know, I would had fixed this myself first..
03:15<vsayikiran>then how to report this problem to debain developer
03:16<vsayikiran>if this is not reported then we are wasting 10mins of power
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03:18<vsayikiran>power management is not wroking properly
03:18<vsayikiran>this is a serious issue
03:18<Gekz>sounds like it
03:19<vsayikiran>my monitor turns off 10 mins more than what i have set in power preferences
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03:20<vsayikiran>debian is simply wasting power by 10 mins by letting the monitor to turn off after 10 mins than the time set in power preferences menu
03:21<Gekz>xscreensaver settings?
03:22<vsayikiran>Geks: yes its set as 10mins
03:22<vsayikiran>Gekz: is that the problem
03:22<Gekz>vsayikiran: probably
03:22<Gekz>try turning xscreensaver off
03:24<vsayikiran>Gekz: my screensaver is turned off, still this is the problem, how can i report this to debian developers
03:24<Gekz>check the mailing lists on the debian website
03:24<Gekz>and choose the one most suitable to your problem
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03:47<Gekz>I've got problems with timidity and debian
03:47<Gekz>Starting: timidityALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
03:47<Gekz>error in snd_seq_open
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04:02<jay__>hey im trying to run mysql from terminal and i get an error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
04:02<jay__>Does anyone know how to resolve this?
04:04<dli>jay__, /etc/init.d/mysql restart
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04:13<jay__>dli, for some reason it says mysql wont start it fails
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04:15<dli>jay__, you have no idea what you are doing. read mysql howto
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04:19<mediahunter>anyone in here familer with madwifi
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04:19<Gekz>(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/ failed (/usr/lib/dri/i915_d
04:19<Gekz> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
04:19<Gekz>damn you terminal!
04:20<Gekz>where would I find that shared object
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04:26<bremner>mediahunter: what is your madwifi problem? I am not an expert, but have used it for 5ish years.
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04:30<keith>Debian 4.0.AMD64.libdvdcss2. I have installed this program and so I can view some DVD movies but not others. The error message comes up 'Are you .........without libdvdcss. Any help here?
04:31<dli>keith, try mplayer
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04:34<keith>dli: Excuse my ignorance but is that totem?
04:34<Gekz>totem is totem
04:34<Gekz>mplayer is mplayer.
04:35<bremner>1) apt-cache show X
04:35<bremner>2) apt-cache search X
04:35<bremner>3) post on IRC :-)
04:36<Gekz>show X?
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04:36<Gekz>I know about search
04:36<mediahunter>bremner i posted a pastebin i will repost
04:36<mediahunter>i can not seem to get it to taklwith the router
04:36<Gekz>ah nice bremner
04:37<keith>Getz: OK I'll try to install mplayer.
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04:42<bremner>mediahunter: are you using ifup or networkmanager or ?
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04:54<ServerSide>Do someone knows how to get timestamps in xchat ?
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05:00<susanne->does anybody know if anyone has started an official Debian package for qmail? qmail 1.03 is now in the public domain, which is why i ask.
05:01<mediahunter>bremner i have dreamlinux so am not sure
05:01<mediahunter>i am in XFCE
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05:08<gsimmons>susanne-: There's a source package available ('qmail-src') in non-free. You can build a binary package using that.
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05:09<mac>Is anybody here?
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05:14<susanne->gsimmons: that wasn't my question. my question is, is anyone aware of work to move qmail to main now that the license problem has been resolved? that would eliminate the need for the manual build qmail-src contortion.
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05:15<debchi>hello mac
05:15<debchi>hello everybody
05:15<debchi>mac has a problem with his SATA DVD DRiver
05:15<debchi>mac: Can you explain your problem here ?
05:17<debchi>here mac !!
05:18<debchi>so all the messages are shared with all users !
05:18<debchi>wellcome to your channel mac ;-)
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05:20<mac>Ok. It seems that users are talking with each other on private channels
05:20<peterpen>HI everybody
05:20<mac>Hi, Peter!
05:20<mac>Hi debchi!
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05:21<peterpen>I'm trying to install testdisk package, but i get the following errror: The following packages have unmet dependencies: testdisk: Depends: libntfs9 (>= 1.13.1) but it is not installable
05:22<mac>You should update your apt channel list
05:22<peterpen>I did it 5 min ago
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05:23<mac>Are you trying to use ntfs3g?
05:23<gsimmons>susanne-: You asked if there was an official Debian qmail package, I provided you with the answer. See also bug #453620.
05:23<peterpen>mac : no, just the utility testdisk
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05:25<mac>What abiblities have the utility you are installing?
05:25<peterpen>disk check
05:25<peterpen>and repair
05:26<mac>have you "googled" for libntfs9?
05:27<mac>Wait for a minute, I check my package list
05:27<peterpen>not yet...
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05:28<peterpen>maybe is part of these 2 packages.... libntfs-dev libntfs-3g16 .... let me check
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05:30<mac>I can send you my apt sources list
05:30<mac>libntfs included there
05:31<mac>I've just successfully installed testdisk
05:31<peterpen>mac: whatis the complete name of the packega
05:31<mac>Right now!
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05:34<peterpen>mac : could you query me and paste your source.list?
05:35<mac>I'll send you Ubuntu list, maybe it will help you
05:35<mac>deb gutsy main restricted
05:35<mac>deb-src gutsy main restricted
05:36<peterpen>mac : ok... but i would understand why this appens. My source.list has been compleded automatically by an apt tools
05:36<mac>deb gutsy-security main restricted
05:36<mac>deb-src gutsy-security main restricted
05:36<mac>deb gutsy-security universe
05:36<mac>deb-src gutsy-security universe
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05:36<mac>What the f***!
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05:37<peterpen>you paste 3 time
05:37<mac>I can even more ))
05:38<peterpen>well...maybe if you are a moderator
05:38<mac>I'm joking
05:39<mac>What time is in your place?
05:39<peterpen>11.39 am
05:39<peterpen>no, IT
05:40<mac>Nice to meet you!
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05:40<peterpen>My pleasure!
05:40<peterpen>The following packages have unmet dependencies: testdisk: Depends: libntfs9 (>= 1.13.1) but it is not installable
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05:41<peterpen>ops ..sorry
05:41<peterpen>deb unstable main contrib non-free
05:41<peterpen>deb-src unstable main contrib non-free
05:41<peterpen>well...probably my repository is not complete
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05:42<peterpen>do you think i shoul use the one you poster?
05:42<mac>It's time for dinner! I need go. Stay here ))
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05:43<peterpen>ok! EYM
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05:47<mac>peterpen -> If your kernel is newer than 2.6.20, you can use the branches I posted.
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05:48<panv>hi all....
05:48<panv>i have some .deb files on my system.. and i want to make synaptic use their location
05:49<panv>but i dont know what to put in the sources.list...
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05:50<peterpen>panv.. I don't have a solution, however you could check the apt howto on debian's home page
05:51<peterpen>otherwise you could use dpkg -i PACKAGENAME
05:51<peterpen>from your shell
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05:55<peterpen>mac : I think the libntfs9 is not available with Unstable(SyD)
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05:56<peterpen>apt-cache search libntfs10libntfs10 - library that provides common NTFS access functions
05:57<mac>Army-speed dinner eat!
05:58<peterpen>let the food reach your stomach before writing :-P
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05:58<mac>But you need 9-th version of library
05:58<peterpen>ok, maybe is a limitation of unstable
05:59<mac>I've mistaken
05:59<mac>>=1.13.1 ))
06:00<peterpen>mmm...same message...broken package
06:00<mac>Check website I posted earlier
06:00<peterpen>I'll do
06:01<mac>For now you have unsolved dependencies
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06:02<peterpen>yeah, but it isn't related to my source.list
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06:02<mac>What should I do with my SATA DVD-RW drive? Debian installer doesn't have appropriate driver for it :(
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06:03<peterpen>bux an external box, use it with usb/Fireware
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06:07<mac>I need a solution that will not offer me buy atything
06:08<mac>Well, Ubuntu developers fixed this bug
06:08<Gekz>oh damn
06:08<Gekz>the aptitude bot isnt here
06:08<Gekz>I can't remember exactly how to do a sid backport, is it "apt-get build-dep <pkg>; apt-get -b source <pkg>"?
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06:11<mac>One solution, I see, is to connect second CD-RW drive as slave to IDE and make netinstall
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06:16<mac>Guys, I need one more help!
06:17<mac>It is about DNS
06:18<mac>and of course BIND9!
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06:38<BulletTime>i've just installed the debian netboot
06:39<BulletTime>when i start up the system, all is fine, untill he loads kde, then the monitor go on stand-by mode
06:39<Ikarus>hrm, urgh, I guess Debian some how found it a great idea to make raid modules load via initrd
06:39<BulletTime>can someone help me
06:40<BulletTime>i am new to debian, but i want to run some servers
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06:40<BulletTime>i had first knoppix debian
06:40<BulletTime>but it always said: illegal instruction
06:40<BulletTime>does somebody know a solution to that problem?
06:40<Gathond>BulletTime: sounds like you choose monitor settings which is above what your monitor supports
06:41<Gathond>probably too high a refresh rate
06:41<BulletTime>and how can i change it then?
06:41<BulletTime>the reso = 1024x768
06:41<BulletTime>but the refresh rate, i don't know
06:41<BulletTime>just installed everything
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06:41<Gathond>the installer should have asked when you configured x
06:42<mac>Try driver "vesa" and generic monitor
06:42<Gathond>you can make it ask you again with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
06:42<BulletTime>there i've only all under 1024x768
06:42<Gathond>BulletTime: its not the resolution, its most likely the refresh rate
06:42<BulletTime>when it boot?
06:42<BulletTime>how can i ask it again?
06:42<Ikarus>grmbl, the initrd in Debian is also build "magically"
06:42<Gathond>although at that resolution a recent monitor should really support anything
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06:43<BulletTime>it is a recent monitor
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06:43<BulletTime>he is new for 2 months
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06:44<BulletTime>but when can i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
06:44<BulletTime>i've no command line or something like that
06:44<BulletTime>it starts
06:44<BulletTime>and a bit later, no screen
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06:44<Gathond>try pressing ctrl-alt-F1
06:44<BulletTime>when i press the button to start
06:44<BulletTime>power button
06:44<mac>Hey! Who are the DNS admins?
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06:44<Gathond>that should drop you back at the first virtual console
06:45<mac>Help ,e
06:45<Gathond>mac: ICANN
06:45<BulletTime>i will try it nog
06:45<Gathond>mac: at least they should have the oversight over whomever they have outsourced the job to
06:46<Gathond>mac: but I'm guessing that is not your actual question so could you try and be a bit more specific?
06:46<BulletTime>yes i get my console back
06:46<BulletTime>so now i can ask the dpkg
06:46<Gathond>BulletTime: then login, and type that command I wrote
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06:47<BulletTime>root login
06:47<Gathond>mac: please don't message me
06:47<Gathond>BulletTime: yeah
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06:48<Gathond>mac: but do you need an actual DNS server (specify your own domain) or just a recursor?
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06:49<mac>an actual
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06:50<Ikarus>okay, I am doing a bit of a bizar debian install, anyone know where I can get a normal (not installer) Debian kernel + initrd without having to run any scripts to generate the initrd
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06:51<mac>I have little network. Using IP every time is not convenient
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06:53<Gathond>mac: so it is not intended to actually drive a public domain? you could look into pdns-recursor, I'm pretty sure it supports exporting the contents of the servers /etc/hosts file to the local network
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06:56<mac>Is it complicated to set UP actual (primary) DNS on BIND?
06:57<BulletTime>now it starts and hold the screen
06:57<BulletTime>but no graphical interface
06:57<tiCo>mac: no
06:58<BulletTime>is it normal, debian without graphical interface?
06:58<tiCo>mac: at least you find a LOT of documentation on the internet
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06:58<mac>Well guys, I'm going to waste lots of money now, have a nice time, see you!
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06:59<BulletTime>it starts the kde
06:59<BulletTime>but it stays a command line
07:00<BulletTime>isn't it a graphical interface?
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07:24<BulletTime>where can i start ssh?
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07:24<BulletTime>normal this /usr/local/sbin/sshd
07:24<BulletTime>but i could not find it
07:24<BulletTime>but i can find the config
07:25<tiCo>BulletTime: to start/stop a daemon you have initscripts aka invoke-rc.d
07:25<tiCo>or there is dpkg -L
07:25<tiCo>and please note thtat /usr/local is for users self-built stuff and not for the official debian packages
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07:27<BulletTime>ok thanks
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07:27<BulletTime>i am new to it
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07:28<Myon>Icekillre: could you fix your connection please?
07:29<BulletTime>but how can i start the deamon now?
07:29<BulletTime>without a script
07:30<Myon>/etc/init.d/ssh start
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07:31<BulletTime>there is no file called ssh
07:31<BulletTime>so it isn't installed?
07:31<BulletTime>but i have a config of ssh
07:31<Gathond>probably not
07:31<BulletTime>strange not?
07:31<tiCo>BulletTime: dpkg -l
07:32<BulletTime>and then he says something
07:32<tiCo>or dpkg -S... or even better: man dpkg
07:32<BulletTime>yeah man
07:32<BulletTime>i will try
07:32<BulletTime>sorry totaly new to it
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07:35<BulletTime>it is not installed
07:35<BulletTime>apt-get install openssh-server
07:35<BulletTime>can i do that?
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07:36<Gathond>BulletTime: use aptitude instead of apt-get
07:36<Gathond>not that the other one does not work, but imho aptitude is better
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07:37<Gekz>how random.
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07:37<Myon>Gekz: issues?
07:38<Gekz>I thought you were a bot xD
07:38<Myon>go sleep elsewhere
07:39<debchi>hi all
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08:06<BulletTime>everything works
08:06<BulletTime>servers are back onlne
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08:17<dr_go>hi to all
08:18<dr_go>how to compile svn packages?
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09:02<paveq>any experiences how UMTS/3G usb-sticks or pcmcia-cards work in linux?
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09:06<m0RrE>dr_go: compile them as you compile any other package?
09:07<dr_go>but there aren't any sources in the svn
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09:09<chenaillou>hello everyone
09:09<chenaillou>I have a question concerning a kernel upgrade (manual way)
09:10<chenaillou>in fact I have a problem at reboot as /dev/hda1 (my root) doesn't exist at all and is replaced by /dev/sdc1 in the way udev detect it
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09:10<chenaillou>I'm triyng to find a workaround solution to get the right detection names, an idea ?
09:10<cahoot>use /dev/disk/by-uuid?
09:11<azeem>chenaillou: you're writing in bold
09:12<stew>chenaillou: sdc1 is not coing from udev, it is coming from the kernel. i'd recommend that you switch both grub and fstab from using a device name like "/dev/hda1" to using a uuid like "UUID=1234-1234-1234..." you can find the uuid of a partition by looking at "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid"
09:12<chenaillou>mmm ok
09:12<chenaillou>I will try but is this behaviour normal ?
09:13<stew>chenaillou: yes
09:13<azeem>chenaillou: can you please turn of bold/fat text in your irc client
09:13<azeem>or am I the only one seeing this?
09:13<stew>azeem: i am seeing it
09:13<chenaillou>Sorry .. i will try
09:15<weasel>chenaillou: turn off bold.
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09:18<chenaillou>and now ?
09:19<lupine>you need to hit ctrl+b, probably
09:19<chenaillou>it seems better thanks ..
09:20<chenaillou>sorry I only use IRC for pb like theses
09:21<chenaillou>ok In fact i would like to understand why the basic debian kernel can detect the disks whith the right names and not the custom one I compiled, I could use the UIDs as you proposed but it's not very friendly names ..
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09:27<serafimsadudade>hi ppl
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09:52<mediahunter>otaku you awake
09:53<lupine>mediahunter: yay, you has a wireless internet
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10:49<BulletTime>i've a problem
10:50<BulletTime>when i run a Call of Duty 4 server, when he has done with loading the map, he says this: staOngeldige instructie
10:50<BulletTime>what can i do?
10:50<BulletTime>he says (in english): illegal instruction
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10:52<Christmas>i have a problem installing the nvidia driver for amd64
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10:53<Christmas>i use debian lenny and after i run their binary, it starts building the kernel module and exits telling me it received a SIGSEV signal (iirc it's SIGSEV)
10:53<Christmas>or something like that
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10:54<Christmas>the driver works fine on linux-image-2.6.22-3-686, my card is geforce fx 7600gs
10:54<Christmas>i installed the proper headers too
10:54<cmot>Christmas, you use the packaged version from non-free or did you download from nvidia?
10:54<Christmas>i downloaded from nvidia
10:54<Christmas>non-free doesn't seem to include them anyway
10:54<cmot>(assuming it's packaged for amd64, too. I use i386 arch myself)
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10:54<Christmas>it is
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10:55<Christmas>the binary is
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10:55<cmot>I've always had quite good experiences with nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx Debian packages
10:55<cmot>(afaik it's the same content, if the deb is up to date)
10:56<Christmas>yeah but no nvidia-glx package on debian lenny non-free repo
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10:56<cmot>so take the one from unstable instead?
10:57<Christmas>unstable is sid right?
10:57<Christmas>so i change it in the /etc/apt/sources.list
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10:57<Christmas>and replace lenny with...?
10:57<cmot>or unstable, doesn't matter
10:57<Christmas>isn't this dangerous?
10:57<Christmas>i don't want to mess my other packages
10:57<cmot>you just don't want to run "aptitude upgrade" with that sources.list
10:57<JasonS>Christmas: yes if you dont do it right
10:57<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
10:57<Christmas>ok, i will try it now and come back
10:57<cmot>you can always just download the single package from
10:58<Christmas>hi Guest448
10:58<Christmas>and use dpkg
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10:58<JasonS>Christmas: have you tried the nvidia one liner from dpkg ?
10:58<Guest448>necesito ayuda
10:58<Christmas>one liner?
10:58<Christmas>what is that
10:58<Guest448>hepl me
10:58<JasonS>!nvidia one-liner
10:58<dpkg>somebody said nvidia one-liner was apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>.
10:58<JasonS>not sure if its good for amd64 though
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10:59<cmot>JasonS, the problem is right now that nvidia-glx is not in lenny, only in sid
10:59<cmot>Guest448, just ask. don't ask to ask
10:59<JasonS>Guest448: tell us your problem
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11:00<JasonS>Guest448: what about it
11:00<Christmas>no such package on lenny should i try the nvidia-kernel-common?
11:00<Guest448>I can not use audacious and armarok at the same time
11:00<Guest448>error alsa drivers?
11:01<Guest448>Only one at a time
11:02<cmot>Christmas, Hmmm.
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11:02<cmot>nvidia-glx from sid might not be very easy: it depends onn xorg from sid afaict, so you may need to fetch quite a few dependencies...
11:02<Guest448> What shall I do?
11:03<JasonS>!why is nvidia-glx not in lenny
11:03<dpkg>JasonS: what are you talking about?
11:03<JasonS>!why is nvidia-glx not in testing
11:03<dpkg>nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in
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11:04<cmot>Christmas, one possibility is having both sid and lenny in sources list. "man apt_preferences" before you do that. And understand it, too, it's not trivial to work with this setup if you don't understand how package dependencies works.
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11:04<Christmas>thanks guys
11:05<Christmas>i'll try the options you gave me
11:05<Guest448>bye :(
11:05<cmot>Guest448, sorry, we don''t have infiinite resources. Have a bit patience
11:05<Guest448>It is sad
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11:06<cmot>Guest448, what kind of environment are you using?
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11:07<cmot>doesn't gnome have esound?
11:07<Guest448>Please need help
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11:08[~]cmot doesn't use gnome
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11:08<cmot>(but you should also be able to use both and use alsa software mixer stuff
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11:08<cmot>which I don't know
11:09<Guest448>I have no sound when heard in another software
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11:09<Guest448>I listen to one and not another
11:10<Guest448>Do not understand?
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11:11<cmot>i do understand
11:11<cmot>i do not know very much about sound, though
11:12<Guest448>Well, thanks Like
11:12<lupine>yes. the one program is grabbing exclusive control of the sound card
11:13<lupine>a sound multiplexer (like esd, provided with gnome - but it's crap, turn it off); dmix; pulseaudio is what people use, I think
11:13<lupine>TBH, it's a very messy area
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11:13<dpkg>methinks dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See, or another sample asound.conf at, or
11:14<valdyn>Guest448: ^^ + make sure that each and every program is using the default alsa device, NOT /dev/dsp or the hardware device directly
11:14<Guest448>I know how to solve?
11:15<lupine>I don't have a clue. Mine "just works" most of the time
11:17<Guest448>I can do?
11:17<Guest448>My English is bad :P
11:18<Guest448> NOT /dev/dsp or the hardware device directly?
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11:18<[gloom]>Guest448: usually you will find this setting in every sound realted application
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11:19<elke>Hi! What is a good/easy way to network sound. I want to play a game (enigma) on a remote X server.
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11:20<Guest448>But .. As I do?
11:22<Guest448>Unable to open the audio
11:22<Guest448>Please check:
11:22<Guest448>1. Be selected the correct complement output
11:22<Guest448>2. No program is blocking the sound card
11:22<Guest448>3. The sound card is properly configured
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11:22<[gloom]>Guest448: the first thing you have to do is setting up your gnome to use the alsamixer. I have no idea about how to do it. I'm a KDE guy:D. After this, in every application with sound, like amarok for example, you have to set it up to use alsamixer too. In the sound section of the amarok you have this settings
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11:22<[gloom]>thanks bot, after 5 minutes writing the guy didn't see my answer:D
11:23<cmot>[gloom], you're aptly named, then
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11:23<[gloom]>sorry, i don't understand "aptly"
11:23<elke>[gloom] You can answer me, instead :)
11:24<[gloom]>elke: I don't know how to network sound, sorry:D
11:24<elke>ok :)
11:24<cmot>[gloom], I mean: you're gloomy now because you wrote so much. And you nick is [gloom]
11:24<cmot>That fits nicely.
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11:24<[gloom]>heheh, ok
11:24<Christmas>for the intel core 2 duo processor amd64 is the right kernel?
11:25<Christmas>not ia64?
11:25<cmot>Anyway. if I want to get fed tonight, I'd better start cooking. So by everybody.
11:25<[gloom]>choose the -686
11:25<cmot>by -> bye
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11:25<Christmas>i already have -686 working with nvidia
11:25<donfede>I am working on compiling gnucash on my debian unstable box, but I am getting a build-conflict with guile-1.8 ... however I am reluctant to remove that version of guile (I have both 1.6.8 and 1.8.2 installed), as I need version 1.8 for lilypond and a few other programs (canorus and denemo). any suggestions? is there a way for the two guile versions to live together and the correct one be detected/used?
11:26<Christmas>i though a 64 bit kernel would be faster
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11:26<[gloom]>Christmas: anyway, I think that the 686 is compiled for pentium 4 and not explicitly for code2duo. I downloaded the sources, and compiled it setting the core2duo option
11:26<[gloom]>but maybe i'm mistaken there
11:27<Christmas>i think i'll leave it that way and stick with the 686
11:27<[gloom]>Christmas: it works great anyway
11:27<elke>hmm, rplay might do the remote sound thing...
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11:49<desm0n>speak spanish
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11:53<ckn13>I need Is it (package) in repo stable? Sorry for my Eanglisch. I litte soeak in it.
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11:55<bremner>ckn13: package liblame0 (in unstable anyhow)
11:55<bremner>ckn13: check for stable
11:56<fxiny>you can find it here : deb etch main
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11:58<fxiny>ckn13: mine is an old compiled one /usr/local/lib/
11:58<fxiny>i'm too lazy ;)
12:00<bremner>ckn13: oops, sorry about bad info. Stupid software patents!
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12:03<klando>hi, does exist some tools to repair ext2/3 filesystem other than fsck ?
12:04<klando>I'd like to get more option in order to recover the tree of files (I currently get all to lost+found, 290k files are then hard to sort and rename)
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12:06<cahoot>klando: you do *not* want the restore from backup answer
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12:06<klando>cahoot, I have not really understand what you said
12:07<klando>actually if I let the fsck process with all yes, it reconstruct inodes count blocks and all, and the fs at the end is ok
12:07<klando>but all file are in lost+found, how can I keep some trace of the trees of directory ?
12:08<klando>or the name of the files
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12:08<klando>(I can see the name with hexdump)
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12:12<ViRaveNuS>hi i have a problem with the nvidia-glx ( The following packages have unmet dependencies nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-100.14.19 but it is not installable)
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12:13<fabio>im linus trovalis
12:13<tiCo>did you take drugs?
12:13<fabio>if i have?
12:14<ViRaveNuS> days spent...nothing happened
12:14<fabio>want some?
12:14<fxiny>drugs ? as in "are you smoking matrix-revolutions?"
12:14<ViRaveNuS>fabio :-$ a litle
12:14<fabio>fxiny yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
12:14<fabio>u like too?
12:15<fabio>just kidding
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12:15<fabio>what u what with nvidia-glx?
12:15<fabio>cant install drivers?
12:15<ViRaveNuS>problems :)) i can't install it .....
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12:16<fabio>go to google
12:16<fabio>and writhe envy
12:16<ViRaveNuS>ya thanx allot
12:16<fabio>the envy install automatic
12:16<fabio>the drives needeed
12:17<ViRaveNuS>thx let me see
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12:17<fabio>im sorry my english is not very good
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12:17<ViRaveNuS>fabio do you have an yahoo id?
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12:18<fabio>but i think i have
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12:18<fabio>wait a sec
12:18<fxiny>a sec ? install bitlbee next
12:19<fabio>add fabiomiguel3
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13:03<kurumin>omg plz help me!!!
13:03<kurumin>i am usaing kurumin to rescue my loss info in damaged hard disk
13:04<kurumin>look people
13:04<kurumin>i damaged my hard disk, and now i am trying to recover it... in the windows xp its says " the disk is not fromated, format now? "
13:04<kurumin>if i do it i will loos all data
13:05<kurumin>i am trying to rescue my data with Kurumin 7
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13:05<dpkg>backup is, like, something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression)
13:05<kurumin>but now, i try to copy all needed files from the damaged HD to my HD sata 160GB and it says " cant copy"
13:06<valdyn>kurumin: why dont you just give the real error message?
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13:07<jcpiza>kurumin: dd if=/dev/<your damaged HD> | bzip2 -6 > large_backup.bz2
13:07<jcpiza>the large_backup sucks many GBs
13:08<Jflesch>jcpiza: dd will stop at the first problem no ?
13:08<valdyn>Jflesch: like that, yes
13:08<Robinayor_>use dd_rescue then
13:08<jcpiza>i don't know.
13:08<fxiny>dd is not what he needs : ddrescue won't stop
13:09<fly2left>maybe you can try easyrecovery or finaldata tools
13:09<Jflesch>jcpiza: according to the man, you should specify "noerror"
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13:20<kurumin>hey what is the best and most used Linux
13:21<kurumin>debian ?
13:21<kurumin>really ?
13:21<@Ganneff>now go and ask in #suse and they say suse.
13:21<fly2left>debian, yes
13:21<kurumin>where can i download it
13:21<Jflesch>ubuntu </don't hit me don't hit me> ;)
13:21<gravity>my ass is the best and most used linux
13:22<fly2left>anywhere google can reach :)
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13:22<Maulkin>kurumin: We say debian. #suse say suse. Try Also define what you mean by 'best'
13:22<gravity>fuck distrowatch
13:22<gravity>The most flawed methodology ever
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13:24<kurumin>i am from brazil :D
13:24<kurumin>sorry for my bad english
13:24<Maulkin>It's not bad at all
13:25<fxiny>yes distrowatch sucks : fxinywatch is authoritative and says debian :P
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13:25<kurumin>tell me where can i download debian, the full :D
13:25<ameyer>no more flawed than any other methodology
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13:25<ameyer>Debian's probably the most important Linux distro, though
13:26<ameyer>with all the stuff based on itt
13:26<ameyer>or based on something based on Debian
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13:33<Kasperl>Hey, I was wondering if this was the right place to ask about hard drive issues on Debian. I've got a drive with bad sectors on it, but it hasn't failed during a year of running Ubuntu. today I installed Debian Etch on it, on a different part of the drive, and after a kernel update it won't boot, failing at fsck.
13:33<Kasperl>Would there be any way for Debian to sort out for itsself which bits of the drive are useable, and which bits are broken?
13:33<Jflesch>from what I know, it's the job of the file system
13:34<Jflesch>it should be done automatically
13:34<Kasperl>I'm running ext3 on /, but when booting X directly after a kernel update (second time booting the machine since install) I got the error that / was full
13:34<Jflesch>(except if the bad sectors are in a vital part of the file system)
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13:35<Kasperl>Is there any way to get the FS to ignore the bad blocks and use other bits of the drive? i won't be using it for any important data, but I'd like a working server while I sort out a new drive
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13:37<Kasperl>fsck -y -c didn't fix much after running for 4 hours, unfortunately
13:38<bremner>Kasperl: badblocks helps? (man badblocks)
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13:39<Kasperl>I'll try that, thanks bremner
13:41<fly2left>relative tools are badblocks mke2fs dumpe2fs debuge2fs tune2fs
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13:42<Kasperl>thanks, I'll look stuff up :)
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13:45<Kasperl>Mmm, the manpage suggests that running fsck -c does very much te same as badblocks
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13:47<fly2left>if you have more skills, maybe you can use debuge2fs to modify the f
13:48<fly2left>modify the fs, but it's dangerous
13:49<Kasperl>Dangerous is not much of an issue, the only thing i will lose are the 30 minutes it takes to do a fresh netinstall. Difficult is something else, I'm still pretty much a *nix noob, despite messing around for a year or so
13:49<Kasperl>Haven't really spent a lot of time messing with stuff like this
13:49<Kasperl>Also, my other debian isntall (working perfectly aside from some WLAN issues, I like it a lot) has no man entry for debuge2fs..
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13:51<fxiny>Kasperl: iirc the installler can check for badblocks
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13:52<Kasperl>How? I used a netinstall CD for Etch, and it didn't do anything really. I repartitioned the drive by deleting all the old partitions and creating a / (7GB at the start of the drive, apparently on top of all the bad stuff), a swap partition, and an empty FAT data partition...
13:52<Kasperl>I didn't see any options to check for stuff
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13:53<simonrvn_>because it's debugfs
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13:53<simonrvn_>Kasperl: ^^^
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13:55<Kasperl>Thanks, I've found the man page
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13:59<Kasperl>Is there a more complete tutorial on how to use debugfS? The man page is somewhat helpful, but I'm not seeing any commands to edit the FS to dodge the bad blocks
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14:05<fly2left>maybe, there is some useful information:, good luck :P
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14:08<ServerSide>in python, time.sleep(10) is sleeping during 10s or 10mins?
14:12<Kasperl>That looks great, fly2left, but it seems that smartctl doesn't exist in the recovery shell I'm in right now
14:13<fly2left>you can download it from S.F and install
14:13<Kasperl>From a recovery shell?
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14:13<Kasperl>I can't seem to get into debian anymore, I'm limited to GRUB and a recovery shell
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14:13<fly2left>other *nix system
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14:14<Kasperl>Haven't a portable HD handy, and the drive in the server is a 2.5" one, and I haven
14:14<Kasperl>'t a converter
14:14<Kasperl>So it seems I'm stuck with what I can do from the recovery shell
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14:16<berat>what is the package of linux-backport-modules on debian
14:17<fly2left>oh, it's difficult!~~
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14:20<berat>i have a problem with debian i am so bored
14:20<berat>no sound on my computer
14:20<berat>ubuntu fixed this problem
14:20<berat>but debian not
14:20<jello>berat: just load the appropriate sound driver and unmute ...
14:21<cahoot>unless it's hda-intel
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14:21<berat>it is unmute
14:21<berat>alsa is configured
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14:21<berat>system recognize my sound card
14:22<berat>my soundcard is hda-intel
14:22<jello>are you running etch?
14:22<jello>what soundcard precisely?
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14:22<jello>most likely you need an updated alsa... i did
14:22<berat> Intel Corporation 82801H
14:22<berat>my sound card
14:23<jello>berat: laptop? thinkpad?
14:23<berat>unstable and lenny have same problem
14:23<berat>acer aspire 5720g
14:23<jello>berat: try grabbing the alsa-source package from unstable and building updated alsa drivers
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14:24<berat>unstable has same problem
14:24<berat>some friends are forcing same problem
14:24<jello>berat: yes, because the kernel in unstable probably has an older driver as well
14:24<jello>try it my way
14:24<jello>apt-get install module-assistant
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14:24<berat>i am beginner of debian
14:25<berat>module-assistant unstable
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14:26<cekz>someone knows a good howto concerning Debian+ATI+opengl ?
14:26<jello>berat: are you running unstable or etch right now?
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14:26<jello>ok, run `apt-get install module-assistant`
14:27<jello>then `wget`
14:27<jello>then `dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.15-3_all.deb`
14:27<jello>then `m-a -t auto-install alsa`
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14:28<jello>berat: note all commands (except wget) need to run as root or using sudo
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14:29<berat>i am root
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14:30<jello>berat: let me know when you're done...
14:31<jello>or if you run into any errors...
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14:33<stew>dpkg: new alsa is to compile newer alsa drivers for your running kernel: first download an alsa-source .deb from ; install it with dpkg -i ; then run "aptitude install module-assistant build-essential ; m-a prepare ; m-a -t a-i alsa" ; you will need to reload your alsa drivers for the new ones to take effect. also ask me about <alsa checklist>
14:33<dpkg>okay, stew
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14:34<jello>stew: i think a-i includes prepare...
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14:34<stew>jello: yeah, looks like you are right according to the manpage
14:35<stew>dpkg: new alsa =~ s#; m-a prepare##
14:35<dpkg>stew: OK
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14:37<jello>stew: #8 on that checklist looks painful to me...
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14:45<berat>its done
14:45<berat>now what am i gonna do ?
14:45<jello>berat: did it remove the old modules and install the new ones?
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14:46<jello>it should have...
14:46<berat>i dont remove old alsa-source,
14:46<jello>no, don't remove alsa-source
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14:47<jello>it should have built a new modules package for you and installed it
14:47<berat>configure alsa-source right now
14:47<berat>built a new module i guess
14:47<jello>no, just run alsaconf
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14:49<berat>system configure alsa,
14:49<jello>!greet knoppix_
14:49<dpkg>Gr33tz, knoppix_
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14:49<Guest469>Hallo an alle
14:50<jello>berat: what is it doing now?
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14:51<Guest469>keine Ahnung :)
14:51<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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14:51<berat>can you look your query
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14:51<berat>i paste the results i have
14:51<jello>berat: don't pm me without asking first, it's rude
14:52<jello>berat: /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
14:52<jello>!greet raven
14:52<dpkg>Hello, raven
14:52<raven>my apt database seems broken. who can help?
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14:53<jello>raven: dpkg --configure -a
14:53<berat>i do it
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14:53<jello>hurry, i need to leave in a few minutes
14:54<raven>Here's my output:
14:54<raven>E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
14:54<raven>E: Ein Fehler trat beim Bearbeiten von xdg-utils auf (NewVersion1)
14:54<raven>E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
14:54<raven>E: Die Paketliste oder die Statusdatei konnte nicht geparst oder geöffnet werden.
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14:54<berat>i force alsa to reload
14:55<berat>what am i gonna do
14:55<lupine>oh, that one
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14:55<lupine>there's a setting you can change to give you more dynamic mmap
14:55<dpkg>Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . If you still get the same error, increase the value. If that file doesn't exist, add it, or put that line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need.
14:55<lupine>there you go
14:55<berat>i do it
14:55<berat>alsa force-reload
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14:56<berat>i do it what a i gonna do know
14:56<jello>ok, so try playing something now...
14:56<jello>berat: alsaplay something.wav
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14:57<simonrvn>!tell raven -about dynamic mmap
14:57<berat>again no sound
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14:57<berat>but something is changiing in my volume control
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14:57<berat>must i reboot system
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14:58<jello>berat: try just adjusting with alsamixer
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14:58<monra>I have run a program in the background with & .. .how do i take it back from background? any ideas?
14:58<dpkg>you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2
14:59<simonrvn>monra: fg
14:59<simonrvn>man bash
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14:59<berat>what is mic boos
14:59<jello>berat: Microphone boost
15:00<berat>pcm is on %100
15:00<raven>dpkg: There's no file "apt.conf" in my /etc. I use etch.
15:00<jello>raven: just create one
15:00<berat>froant and front mi %100
15:01<cahoot>berat: try this to set levels and unmute: invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0
15:01<jello>berat: i'm sorry but i have to go now...
15:02<berat>ok jello
15:02<berat>i do it cahoot
15:02<monra>simonrvn, what does fg_spec means?
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15:02<jackblack>after reboot im getting this in bash on login
15:02<simonrvn>monra: i didn't say fg_spec i said fg
15:03<jackblack>any ideas what the problem could be
15:03<monra>i ment job_spec
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15:04<berat>again no sound
15:04<raven>what is a good value for increasing apt cache-limit? (Last was 12582912)
15:04<cahoot>berat: run speaker-test
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15:06<berat>Using 16 octaves of pink noise
15:06<berat>Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
15:06<berat>Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384
15:06<berat>Period size range from 1024 to 1024
15:06<berat>Using max buffer size 16384
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15:06<monra>simonrvn, i don't know where i will find the job name. tried ps -jA but nothing
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15:06<berat> 0 - Front Left
15:06<berat>Time per period = 2.664627
15:06<berat> 0 - Front Left
15:06<berat>Time per period = 2.986647
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15:07<berat>what does this mean cahoot
15:07<cahoot>berat: so alsa is running - but still silence?
15:08<cahoot>berat: does fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* return anything?
15:09<berat>no output
15:09<berat>nothing in here
15:09<cahoot>berat: ok - run alsamixer - try to mute headphone and unmute speaker (if you have such an option)
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15:10<berat>i muted headphone
15:10<monra>I don't get it. I have a program runnng on background but with jobs i don't see nothing
15:11<berat>i muted headphone
15:11<berat>no sound
15:11<cahoot>no specific 'speaker' option?
15:12<berat>there are pcm front front mi micboos capture capture
15:12<berat>besides headphones
15:12<cahoot>pcm is 00 not MM ?
15:13<backslash>where is mouse driver located?
15:13<berat>pcm is in %100
15:13<cahoot>that's not what I asked
15:14<berat>i am beginner for debian
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15:14<berat>what does 00 mean
15:14<cahoot>if you run alsamixer you'll see
15:14<berat>,ha ok
15:14<backslash>question: what is a good torrent client for linux (debian) ? no java pls
15:15<berat>i dont see what pcm is 00 or MM
15:15<berat>headphone is MM
15:15<berat>front is 00
15:16<cahoot>00 means unmuted, MM means muted
15:16<berat>but pcm nothing here neither 00 nor MM
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15:16<berat>ok i understand
15:16<backslash>how can i ask questions here so someone give a answer? im new in irc sorry...
15:16<berat>i used gnome-alsamixeer also
15:16<berat>you cannot use mute option for pcm
15:17<cahoot>I don't - so I don't know how it presents the options ...
15:17<berat>because there is no mute option in neither gnome-alsamixer not alsamixer
15:17<cahoot>berat: that's ok front is the relevant here
15:17<cahoot>differs from card to card
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15:18<berat>but you can set
15:18<cahoot>berat: what does: cat /proc/asound/version say?
15:18<berat>mute or unmuted on volume coontrol
15:18<backslash>how can i use LS (list) to show only folders, no files ?
15:19<berat>Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.15.
15:19<berat>Compiled on Dec 16 2007 for kernel 2.6.18-5-686 (SMP).
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15:19<berat>man ls
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15:20<cahoot>berat: I'm stuck
15:20<monra>backslash, try ls -d *
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15:20<monra>backslash, seems no!
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15:21<berat>very interesting
15:21<berat>seems there is nothing i can do
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15:22<backslash>ls -d
15:22<backslash>seems no ? ^^
15:22<backslash>ye did thought to use man sorry... :P
15:22<fly2left>backslah: try ls -l | grep "^d"
15:23<backslash>lol okay :P no smoother way? ;)
15:24<backslash>it works.. but isnt there a option of ls i could use instead ?
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15:25<fly2left>seems no
15:25<backslash>thansk for the ti
15:26<backslash>whats a good torrent client for debian ? no java pls (eg azureus)
15:26<backslash>or am i wrong here for this kinda question
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15:27<fly2left>mybe aMule, the linux version of emule
15:28<backslash>emule isnt torrent... ?
15:28<backslash>or can i even use it for torrents in linux
15:29<berat>can iit be ?
15:29<berat>or bittorent
15:30<backslash>sorry i use to say only torrent :P
15:30<backslash>dc++ is like emule as well isnt it ?
15:30<berat>i dont know what exactly dc++ is
15:30<backslash>i just wanna download (upload ive got to :P) .TORRENT-files
15:30<backslash>dc++ is the same
15:31<backslash>at least in windows :P
15:31<backslash>just like uTorrent, Azureus (no java)..
15:31<backslash>nobody knows a tool like this?
15:35<cahoot>backslash: try aptitude search torrent
15:35<backslash>aptitude ?
15:35<cahoot>you run debian?
15:36<backslash>ah sorry
15:36<backslash>yes of course never mind
15:36<backslash>how can i access thee menu above lol
15:37<backslash>today i dont really think bout things :P
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15:38<backslash>working thanks
15:38<backslash>works fine
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15:48<pmitros>Is there a quick way to check if two files are linked? I can do ls -ail, then cut out the inode number, and compare, but I'm wondering if there is a faster/easier check.
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15:50<maxdpo>sergio c6 ?
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15:50<maxdpo>mi leggi ?
15:51<jonet>ciao max
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15:54<mjtunes>hi i need help rebooting a vps if any can help
15:54<Scurz>ask your question
15:55<mjtunes>did shutdown -r now
15:55<mjtunes>and i got bash: shutdown: command not found
15:55<Scurz>reboot ?
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15:56<adii>dpkg tells me that "video lan client" (aka VLC) is apt-gettable , but i can't find it
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15:57<Scurz>adii: do you want to install the vlc package?
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15:57<Scurz>adii: so, do aptitude install vlc
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15:57<Scurz>mjtunes: is it ok with "reboot" ?
15:58<mjtunes>wots nes: is it ok with "reboot" ?
15:58<mjtunes>wots init
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15:59<adii>aptitude install vlc doesn't work : "Pas de version candidate trouvée pour vlc"
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16:00<Scurz>adii: which debian version do you use ?
16:00<adii>i'm using lenny
16:00<Scurz>adii: et, quand tu pastes, evite de le faire en francais :)
16:00<adii>dsl :)
16:01<Scurz>adii: I've no machine which is running on lenny, sorry
16:02<adii>are you french btw ?
16:03<Scurz>yes adii ;)
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16:03<mjtunes>i typed init and runtime error 429 active x component cant create odject
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16:05<Scurz>mjtunes: and, if you try "reboot" ? right?
16:06<adii>i'll try to go and find a VLC package that can fit to lenny. I like the way you 'd rather speak english with french people, that's nice to people who can't speak our language.
16:06<mjtunes>do init reboot
16:06<backslash>u no about the runlevels
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16:07<JasonS>yes debian is linux kurumin
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16:16<dpkg>[vlc] the VideoLAN Client. It's a MPEG2 client/server program for broadcasting. It can also be used standalone as an normal MPEG2/DVD player. See, or apt-gettable.
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16:17<adii>he's neither available on the website for lenny nor apt-gettable
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16:18<backslash>is there a way to use ubuntu @266MHz; 92MB RAM; 16MB VRAM; ?
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16:18<chealer>backslash: /topic
16:18<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
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16:19<backslash>okay :P sorry ^^
16:19<backslash>another one: how can i let a program start at s specific time ?
16:19<backslash>as alarm clock in the morning
16:20<chealer>dpkg: no, vlc is the VideoLAN media player, which can also broadcast. It can also be used standalone as a normal MPEG2/DVD player. Available in stable and unstable. Upstream homepage:
16:20<dpkg>chealer: okay
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16:23<backslash>how can i let a program start at s specific time ?e.g. as alarm clock in the morning
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16:23<jackblack>anyone know why im getting this
16:24<jackblack>ever since i rebooted
16:24<lupine_85>backslash: cron
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16:24<jackblack>whats that
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16:24<jackblack>hows it fixed
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16:25<valdyn>backslash: install atd, run "at -f script 6:00" for instance, see manpages..
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16:28<backslash>atd ?
16:28<backslash>gonna do it thanks for the advice
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16:57<alex>was the leave
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17:12<nascentmind>i get this error hda: dma timeout error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } during boot. is it normal?
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17:14<petemc>no, it means something is wrong, often times its a disk in its final throes, but it can be caused by a dodgy cable
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17:14<nascentmind>but mine seems to work fine.
17:15<petemc>i would backup anything important on it, regardless
17:15<nascentmind>when i did a search on the net it doesn't look that grave
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17:17<nascentmind>petemc, is it because that it isn't supported it just gives an error?
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17:18<petemc>nascentmind: i already told you what i know from my experiences of that error
17:18<nascentmind>petemc, how can i do a test on my drive?
17:18<nascentmind>any tools?
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17:36<jamesbew>i'm having a problem with one of my servers
17:37<jamesbew>whereby the software interrupts are taking around 80% of the CPU
17:37<jamesbew>has anyone come across a similar problem?
17:37<jamesbew>or have an idea what could be causing the problem??
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19:21<cekz>hi, I am currently trying to activate opengl on a Linux debian 2.6.18-5-486 machine with xorg version 7.1 . I have pasted my glxinfo and /etc/X11/xorg.conf on But I still have a direct rendering no
19:21<alaya>what chipset?
19:22<alaya>that's the brand. if its a more recent model it might need the fglrx driver
19:22<alaya>!tell cekz about fglrx
19:23<alaya>basically you just follow the one-liner to build an external module for it, and reconfigure xorg to use the new driver
19:25<cekz>Starting ATI fglrx magic: no ATI fglrx found.
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19:26<alaya>i don't know what that is
19:26<cekz>its the response of fglrx-driver
19:27<alaya>did you build and install the module?
19:27<alaya>and also check to see if your card is actually one supported by it?
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19:30<cekz>sorry I am fairly noobish with debian. I guess I did not build the module
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19:32<alaya>we were all new at one time :-)
19:32<alaya>just read, read, read and take lots of notes!
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19:41<george>read read read read read think think think think think read think read think read think read think read think repeat
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19:41<george>if you ever get out of that loop satisfied, you might then be at guru level :)
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20:54<creeed>hello, I'm a newbie & have a question about bash, how can I colorize my bash to get per example for each filetyp a owncolor?
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20:58<jagerman>creeed: add: alias ls='ls --color=auto' to your .bashrc
20:59<jagerman>I add -F to that too, to give me the */@ after executable files, dirs, and symlinks.
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21:14<ReedWood>Hello, I am interessted if some has a oppinion about conary:
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21:29<chealer>ReedWood: this is a Debian support channel (if that's related, I fail to see how).
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21:36<george>-damn-!! you mean I missed another off-topic link?!
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22:15<tech13>Recently I had my IDE drive fail, and my mother board suports SATA, so I upgraded that and installed Debian Etch. Had Ubuntu before this. Since changing to Debian and SATA for my harddrive, my IDE DVD burner won't read DVD movies/videos anymore. Any ideas about what to change? note: installed from a burned Debian DVD without issue.
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22:24<Freak_>tech13: does your dvd-drive still read data
22:26<tech13>dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null fails with a read error after about 53M
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22:26<tech13>that is with a movie disk though.... looking for a data dvd...
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22:27<ariel_de_argentina>hola hola
22:27<ariel_de_argentina>hay alguien
22:28<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
22:29<ariel_de_argentina>ok no problem i speak english very well
22:30<ariel_de_argentina>hi to alla
22:30<ariel_de_argentina>some vary heart me
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22:34<tech13>dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null of a knoppix dvd finished just fine. "4324229120 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 366.929 seconds, 11.8 MB/s"
22:34<Freak_>then it sounds to me like you're missing a library or module for reading video dvd's
22:35<Freak_>I wouldn't know which lib or mod that'd be though, I don't use video dvd's
22:35<tech13>dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null of a movie dvd fails with a read error: "dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error" "52805632 bytes (53 MB) copied, 11.437 seconds, 4.6 MB/s"
22:37<Freak_>have you tried another video dvd? It might be the dvd
22:39<tech13>diffent dvd. dvd reader is still doing the iinitial read and making clicking sounds stilll. trying another other one....
22:39<Freak_>clicking sounds usually aren't good : /
22:40<tech13>movie dvd #3.... testing....
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22:41<tech13>failed, i/o error... "391233536 bytes (391 MB) copied, 75.1434 seconds, 5.2 MB/s"
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22:42<Freak_>weird that it's not consistent
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22:43<tech13>wonder if it is just dual layer disks. My data dvd's are all single layey.
22:45<Freak_>might be
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22:45<Freak_>you could test it if you have single layer dvd-video disks
22:46<tech13>too bad I have no idea which ones are single layers.
22:46<jred184>can someone help me with setting up an aircard 875u?
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22:49<Freak_>if you have single layered burnables you could write a video dvd and test it with that
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22:54<Aleric>How can I permanently get rid of the screensaver? :/
22:55<Aleric>I just had to reboot because it made my screen dark, and there was no way to get it back :/
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22:56<jello>Aleric: in console or X?
22:57<jello>purge the relevant packages?
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22:58<jello>in console run `setterm -blank 0`
22:59<stacker>¿alguien aqui habla español o habla dentro de los dos idiomas español e ingles?
22:59<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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23:03<stacker>or can you help me? i want to talk with richard stallman, i know this sounds like a joke ,but i want really i want
23:03<jello>stacker: send him email?
23:04<stacker>and what's him email.
23:05<jello>stacker: ask google
23:05<stacker>let me see...
23:05<jello>probably something like
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23:58<stacker>tahnks jello
23:59<zoe>iirc, there is a apt.conf directive that allows you to pretend a package is installed when it is not (e.g. if you built it from source)
23:59<zoe>i just can't remember exactly how you do that.
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