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---Logopened Wed Feb 27 00:00:28 2008
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00:00<rotten>Can anyone tell me why my first disk outta 4 wont let me use the remaining space on the hard drive for other partitions?
00:01<Kosma>rotten: it's a neat tool for controlling your 3ware raid card
00:01<Kosma>rotten: you can have only 4 primary partition
00:01<Kosma>delete the last one and create logical partitions instead
00:02<Kosma>because logical partitions are contained in an extended partition which is a form of primary partition ;)
00:02<rotten>Kosma: that might be it
00:02<rotten>Kosma: thanks
00:02<Kosma>you're welcome :)
00:03<Kosma>the first thing to do after purchasing a server with RHEL5:
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00:03<Kosma>I can rest now, it's 6AM. a great night hacking session is over :)
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00:05<Marupa>Is there any way to make an ssh login silent? Like, no warranty info, and such/
00:07<rotten>Kosma: I deleted all the partitions on all the drives, for some reason all drives except sda have the option for pri/log in front of the available free space
00:08<rotten>Kosma: and still wont let me use anything paste the first partition
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00:14<rotten>anyone know why the first disk in four wont let me have anything more than one partition?
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00:23<vook>rotten: so you have four physical disks, and the first will only allow one partition?
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01:58<gsimmons>Marupa: You can disable MOTD display for ssh logins by commenting out the line within /etc/pam.d/ssh
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01:58<Marupa>gsimmons, and the warranty thing?
02:00<jm_>that's handled via .hush_login
02:00<jm_>.hushlogin actually
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02:02<Marupa>just touch that file, and that works?
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02:06<Marupa>Thank you.
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02:07<Marupa>Forgot to ask...any way to get rid of screen's startup message?
02:10<Marupa>via options, or a file/setting?
02:12<jm_>yeah in .screenrc, see man screen, it has something related to startup message
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02:19<Slydder>morning all
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03:41<crazyb0y>hello, is there a Plesk package for debian testing?
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04:00<crazyb0y>!tell about plesk
04:02<Schreck2>Yop guys ! :)
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04:03<Schreck>Question about SSH server...
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04:04<Schreck>ssh-agent can remember the keys for auth... If the SSH server asks for key and password... Is there any tool equivalent to ssh-agent for the password ?
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04:32<Katya>any one good in RAID?
04:34<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
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04:48<bastiaan_>someone can help me installing grub on /dev/sda?
04:49<bastiaan_>for some fscking reason it wil not work
04:49<bastiaan_>/dev/sda does not have a corresponding BIOS Drive
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04:51<jm_>try using --recheck
04:54<bastiaan_>I did, but now grub cannot find the /dev/sda1 /boot partition it seems
04:54<bastiaan_>so my entire disk won't boot
04:54<bastiaan_>because it can't find /boot/grub
04:55<jm_>you're using a separate boot partition?
04:55<jm_>you need to use --root-directory ...
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06:26<antares>I am in the process of installing nagios this message and I have what I can do
06:26<antares>[Wed Feb 27 12:10:08 2008] [warn] The ScriptAlias directive in / etc/apache2/apache2.conf at line 306 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier ScriptAlias.
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06:28<padski>antares, what is that script alias ? (or even those script aliases)
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06:32<antares>i will comment this line by #
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06:43<Slydder>hey. has anyone been able to get the adobe svg plugin working in iceweasel?
06:43<padski>well, I suppose that will stop it complaining, but you'd better trying to understand how the problem has come about.
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07:05<crazyb0y>i need Plesk for debian testing, is there anybody who can help me?
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07:05<padski>crazyb0y, no. why would you want to do that ?
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07:10<DTE>hi all
07:11<kether>hi DTE
07:11<DTE>is there a debian way to add some status or check controls in the initscripts?
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07:12<padski>DTE, iiuc, debian does not require them to be present. you can add them by editing. be aware that there are various systems/standards that require specific formats for the return to status
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07:14<kether>hi skape
07:15<skape>hi kether
07:15<DTE>padski: i'm just adding manually the check
07:15<DTE>but why some daemons don't have a status check?
07:15<padski>DTE, that is what I do. you can always try sending in a patch.
07:16<padski>DTE, as I said, I don't think debian policy requires it
07:16<DTE>sure i'm going to ask to the mantainer...for this i wanted to ask if there's a debian way
07:16<DTE>padski: the problem is that heartbeat v2 requires it
07:17<padski>DTE, more than that, its requirements are quite specific.
07:17<padski>DTE, which daemon is it ?
07:17<andresvia>How do I set a FQDN. Example: I ping myhost and I get response, but I ping "myhost." and I'm not getting any response. I'm trying to deliver mail between the machines in my LAN.
07:17<dpkg>use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' , or see /etc/mailname
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07:17<DTE>padski: all courier daemons
07:18<andresvia>Thanks padski .
07:18<padski>DTE, sorry, I have heartbeat init scripts for one or two things, but not that.
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07:18<DTE>which one? maybe they could help me :-)
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07:21<padski>DTE, all in the category "don't try this at home"
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07:22<padski>DTE, bind, mysql. crazy stuff mostly :-)
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07:22<padski>DTE, looking at it my scripts either return 0 or 1
07:23<padski>DTE, I though they were supposed to say stuff like "running"
07:23<padski>DTE, ah! they do
07:23<DTE>padski: exactly what i'm doing with mines
07:23<DTE>they return 0 or 1
07:24<DTE>just checking the pid
07:24<padski>DTE, and "stopped"
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07:24<DTE>as far as i know heartbeat requires start,stop and status
07:24<DTE>for lsb script
07:24<DTE>why stopped?
07:25<padski>DTE, I seem to have monitor as well.
07:25<DTE> too :-)
07:25<padski>DTE, "stopped" is what it says if the thing is stopped :-)
07:25<DTE> stopped is required?
07:26<padski>DTE, I have some code I will paste
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07:26<DTE>wait a you use ocf script or lsb?
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07:27<padski>DTE, this is heartbeat 1
07:28<padski>DTE, beware though, I wrote that. if its possible to get a bug into a few lines, then there are probably several there :-)
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07:29<DTE>ahh...i'm using v2 and monitoring is into heartbeat
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07:30<DTE>v2 requires that the lsb script exit with 0 or 1 (as i understood)
07:30<padski>DTE, yeah, cos that exit looks a bit odd in mine :-)
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07:32<crazyb0y>padski: because we are moving on testing at all, and we need Plesk for our customers
07:32<crazyb0y>do you have any ideas how can i run it under testing?
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07:35<padski>crazyb0y, plesk is a commercial product. please talk to your vendor for support.
07:36<crazyb0y>i'm using the free version, just for one domain and our customers
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07:36<DTE>crazyb0y: do you need pplesk or any other panel?
07:37<crazyb0y>DTE: yes i need plesk
07:37<crazyb0y>you will tell me to buy it? =)
07:38<DTE>oh no....just to use some other open source panels ;-)
07:38<crazyb0y>DTE: i dunno which one is good
07:38<crazyb0y>there's no comments and suggestions =(
07:38<crazyb0y>everybody is telling me to buy one, but i don't want, i like open source =)
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07:38<tore>ispconfig? :)
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07:39<DTE>crazyb0y: there're tons of panels
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07:39<gsimmons>!free whcp
07:39<crazyb0y>tore: only for "web hosting" panel i need
07:39<dpkg>FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP Omega> and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>.
07:39<crazyb0y>Don't use <Webmin>.
07:39<crazyb0y>hehe i was using it, but never more =)
07:39<crazyb0y>thanks guys i'm going to see these which you gave me
07:39<padski>crazyb0y, try "deb lenny all"
07:39<DTE>ispcp omega is pretty nice
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07:40<crazyb0y>padski: thanks i'll =)
07:40<padski>crazyb0y, or perhaps not, but their repo is at
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07:40<crazyb0y>let me see
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07:41<crazyb0y>not found =(
07:41<padski>crazyb0y, I don't see any lenny support there, which is the same as their web pages say. you need to talk to them, not us.
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07:42<crazyb0y>padski: yes i see, thank you very much, they will tell me to buy the product and they will give me tech support, so i'm going to use a free panel instead of Plesk
07:42<padski>I see the webmin haters have been at it again ;-)
07:42<crazyb0y>webming is not good
07:42<crazyb0y>if i wasn't use a grsecurity with strong RBAC policies ....
07:42<crazyb0y>they safe me =)
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08:01<bastiaan_>anyone knows how to install grub properly on a debian system?
08:01<bastiaan_>I still can't get more than a grub> prompt when I boot from harddisk
08:02<petemc>the debian installer should do that
08:02<petemc>otherwise, setup from the grub shell
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08:02<bastiaan_>I replace my harddisk and dd'ed my partitions so I dont use the debian installer
08:03<bastiaan_>is in LVM2 and /boot is in /dev/sda1
08:03<bastiaan_> / is in LVM2 and /boot is in /dev/sda1
08:03<DTE>just the partitions or the whole disk?
08:03<bastiaan_>only the partitions
08:04<bastiaan_>the LVM partitions
08:04<DTE>the you've to install the boot loader
08:04<bastiaan_>yes, but how?
08:04<petemc>grub-install never worked for me
08:04<bastiaan_>then I only get a minimalistic grub prompt
08:04<petemc>which i why i suggested setup from the grub shell
08:04<DTE>petemc: for me yes...but not always
08:05<DTE>sure the shell is the surest way
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08:06<bastiaan_>just using /usr/sbin/grub ?
08:07<jm_>grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda
08:07<jm_>it's in the docs
08:07<bastiaan_>that one I tried too, but still does not work ...
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08:08<padski>shouldn;t that be a grub device ?
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08:08<jm_>do you have menu.lst in /boot/grub? do you have /boot/boot -> . symlink?
08:08<jm_>it knows both
08:08<bastiaan_>I have /boot/grub
08:08<ZeuZ>How do I roll back to a previously installed version of a package?
08:08<padski>ok :-)
08:09<bastiaan_>hm, boot -> . is not present
08:10<ZeuZ>Quick question, needing some quick answer: How do I roll back to a previously installed version of a package?
08:10<bastiaan_>okay that boot -> . symlink was the clue
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08:12<jm_>ZeuZ: do you have it in the cache still?
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08:16<ZeuZ>jm_: No idea, will check now... but doing dpkg -i will work if apt-get complains about broken dependencies?
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08:20<jm_>ZeuZ: hard to say, probably not
08:20<jm_>ZeuZ: you can also try apt-get install foo=version
08:20<ZeuZ>What I dont want is to uninstall the package to reinstall the previous...
08:20<ZeuZ>hmmm how would that work jm_ ?
08:21<ZeuZ>mind you giving me an example?
08:21<jm_>apt-get install bash=3.1dfsg-8
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08:25<ZeuZ>jm_: Now that's the greatest idea I've ever came across... but still, will it work if apt is complaining about broken dependencies?
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08:26<dpkg>methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>.
08:27<padski>ZeuZ, apt-get --reinstall any use ?
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08:28<ZeuZ>lol, the downgrade that the bot tells is the one I think that will work, though I think it might come crashy...
08:28<jm_>ZeuZ: probably not, try it
08:28<ZeuZ>oscar_: Hmm.. noone seemed to answer, so I went to #debian-amd64
08:29<ZeuZ>hmmm, package is not being found by apt, so gonna do it manually
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08:31<ZeuZ>damn straight! it worked :)
08:32<ZeuZ>andresvia: How's it going mate? :)
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08:33<andresvia>Fine :) Just have a WTF with exim4
08:33<ZeuZ>how can I search for a defined word in an entire directory? Before anyone flames me: i-ve read the man, though I couldn't figure it out...
08:33<ZeuZ>andresvia: lol, what happen?
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08:34<jm_>which man page have you read then?
08:34<andresvia>ZeuZ: I'm trying to deliver mail in the LAN but the mail is bounced with the reason: "Unrouteable address".
08:34<ZeuZ>You have any other methods to try to send a mail through, andresvia?
08:35<ZeuZ>jm_: :D man find? :D
08:35<ZeuZ>jm_: thing goes like, I'm a spanish talking fellow, that get's lost sometimes... plenty most of the time...
08:35<jm_>ZeuZ: well find . -name '*foo*'
08:36<andresvia>ZeuZ, I have sended mail to the outside world, so I guest is some configuration thing on the receiver.
08:36<ZeuZ>jm_: I know I have to make find /directory but name won't do, I need to search a pattern, and I don't get how to drop it
08:36<andresvia>ZeuZ, pues yo también :p
08:36<ZeuZ>jm_: It's not in the name what I'm searching fior, but in the content...
08:36<jm_>ZeuZ: you need to use grep
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08:36<ZeuZ>andresvia: jaja nos van a flammear si seuimos en espaNol xD
08:36<blarson>ZeuZ: grep -r (or find | grep)
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08:37<ZeuZ>but how would that go inside the content? the other thing I thought about is doing a recursive cat and grepping for that line...
08:37<jm_>grep has -r switch
08:37<ZeuZ>gotta check what that switch does...
08:38<ZeuZ>recursive? xD
08:38<ZeuZ>though, how-s grep going to help if no content is displayed?
08:39<ZeuZ>Guess I'll just use kfind...
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08:43<ZeuZ>Is there any pactch for the tty decoration besides fbsplash??
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08:51<bougi>hello, I am new to debian and I have some problems. My main one is that I get " wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64" when I run some X aplications. I nderstand that it has to do with 32 and 64 bit libraries but I can't find something helpful. Any recommendations or links?
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08:54<ZeuZ>bougi: Get a look at IA32 libraries...
08:54<ZeuZ>However, it seems like you have Debian AMD64 running on an i386 plataform or so...
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08:56<bougi>ZeuZ: I've seen mentioning these but I have tried a search in synaptic for the IA32 and I could find any packages. are they not packages?
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08:56<bougi>I have AMD64 Athlon x2
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08:57<bougi>but you are right. I just checked and I have a 486 kernel. I had installed an AMD smp in the past but I must have done something wrong. I go to fix this and I get back, thanks
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08:59<ZeuZ>lol, he went away before I could say him to only upgrade the kernel, and rebuild the packages that have problems later...
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09:05<hazard2>anyone ever had a problem with a laptop simply not charging when linux is running?
09:05<azeem>charging what?
09:05<hazard2>it charges when the machine is off, but once its on, it only runs off battery (acpitool says AC is disconnected-but it isn't)
09:05<hazard2>the battery
09:06<azeem>you sure that's not a hardware issue?
09:06<hazard2>I don't know.
09:06<hazard2>That's kinda what I've been trying to figure out
09:06<azeem>maybe it is charging, but GNU/Linux doesn't notice
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09:06<hazard2>when sitting at the bios its indicators saay its still charging
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09:06<hazard2>but as soon a linux boots the light goes out
09:06<hazard2>which suggests (I think) that the bios knows that its running on battery now
09:08<hazard2>but I have no idea if its something goofy thoshiba's epxecting the software to tell the system, of if there's a hardware problem
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09:11<Farid> Hello guys, I am trying to install over centos/xen, default conf file has "kernel = "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6-xen"", where to find appropriate kernel image?
09:11<bougi>ZeuZ: I now use the out-of-box kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp. I did an apt-get update but I still can't find an IA32 package. Is it something else?
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09:16<bougi>jm_: I am using | unstable main contrib | unstable main contrib non-free | stable/non-US main contrib non-free | in my apt/sources.list. Do I need to include other mirrors to be able to see ia32-libs ?
09:16<raphink>does anyone know where I could find a libnss_nis.a in Debian?
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09:18<ZeuZ>bougi: Use apt-cache search
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09:18<bougi>ZeuZ: I am running it as root and it returns nothing :(
09:18<ZeuZ>you must drop the parameter to search, dude
09:19<ZeuZ>as >> apt-cache search ia32
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09:19<bougi>yes I know, I have done this :)
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09:21<ZeuZ>bougi: Lemme see what's the package name...
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09:21<Farid>how to install debian guest over xen with host os other than debian like gentoo or centos?
09:21<bougi>searching for ia32-libs returns nothing and search for ia32 returns elilo, lsb-xxx, refit, microcode. That's all
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09:22<ZeuZ>apt-cache search ia | grep ia32
09:23<ZeuZ>bougi: if that returns nothing, then goto your sources.list and add the main, contrib, non-free for your system... also make sure you-re using a mirror and not only the security lists
09:23<bougi>ZeuZ: yep, the refit is here :) I'll try to install it and see what heppens
09:24<ZeuZ>lol, if you found it now, I guess it was just a typo mistake while searching with apt-cache...
09:24<jm_>bougi: what does uname -m say?
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09:24<ZeuZ>I'll be waiting to here from you, however, if I do not respond is because I went to take care of the sausages I've got in the oven...
09:25<ZeuZ>plus: I'm installing DirectX through wine-doors and the output reqiures mi attention xD
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09:27<bougi>ZeuZ: yes I installed it. I'll see if a reboot helps, cause I still get the " wrong ELF class". Hey man, no prob thanks anyway :)
09:27<bougi>jm_: x86_64
09:28<jm_>bougi: as you can see it's available in amd64 releases
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09:29<ZeuZ>jm_: He knows, he achieved to install it...
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09:29<jm_>ZeuZ: <bougi> searching for ia32-libs returns nothing and search for ia32 returns elil
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09:30<ZeuZ>jm_: Read lower in the conversation :)
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09:30<ZeuZ>like here: >>>> <bougi> ZeuZ: yes I installed it. I'll see if a reboot helps, cause I still get the " wrong ELF class". Hey man, no prob thanks anyway :)
09:31<bougi>ZeuZ: I installed the "refit", which was the output for "apt-cache search ia | grep ia32"
09:31<bougi>I guess that isn't the one...
09:31<jm_>ZeuZ: no he didn't
09:32<jm_>bougi: what does ls /var/cachep/apt/archives say? just the last line
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09:33<bougi>jm_: the last line: zlib1g_1%3a1.2.3.3.dfsg-11_i386.deb
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09:38<ZeuZ>lol, I misunderstood.. sorry
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09:45<jeanmiii_>I am looking for a woody repository, are there still any on the net ?
09:45<jeanmiii_>I'm especially seeking the src of the "file" package that was in woody
09:46<paistis>i think there are archiver for woody
09:46<Farid>Hi, how can I install debian over xen using debootstrap, plz help?
09:46<jeanmiii_>paistis where at ?
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09:46<paistis>jeanmiii_: moment i search
09:47<paistis>jeanmiii_: there?
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09:52<ZeuZ>lol, there are still repos for woody?
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09:53<Farid>Hi, how can I install debian over other Linux/Xen please please help?
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09:54<petemc>Farid: over?
09:54<petemc>i use debootstrap to install debian domUs
09:55<Farid>how to do it, direct me to some links plz.
09:55<petemc>ive no idea what you're on about
09:58<Farid>I have a xen installed on centos but I need debian gusts, I tried images but no luck, I never used debootstrap.
09:58<Farid>Jailtime image, give this error: VFS: Cannot open root device "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0)
09:58<Farid>Please append a correct "root=" boot option
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10:04<ZeuZ>Farid: It seems like you're pointing to the incorrect device
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10:05<Farid>I have VLM, /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol06 on /vm type ext3 (rw), the image is located on it
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10:06<bougi>ZeuZ: hello again. I rebooted and tried to find information about the "ia32-libs" package. Let me remind you I am not still able to find "ia32-libs" from apt. I have installed "refit" which was the only output of "apt-cache search ia | grep ia32". If you got any time I'll wait ;)
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10:07<ZeuZ>well, you have the standar /etc/apt/sources.list right?
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10:11<bougi>My uncommneted lines are:deb unstable main contrib
10:11<bougi>deb unstable main contrib non-free
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10:12<bougi>deb stable/non-US main contrib non-free
10:12<ZeuZ>that's the problem then
10:12<ZeuZ>you have only the security repositories, and not the mirror ones to download new packages.
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10:13<ZeuZ>Add the new repos line to sources.list and you'll be able to download it
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10:15<sas67>i know im prolly in wrong place,but here goes
10:16<sas67>im running ubuntu 7.10 on a vm workstation
10:16<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
10:16<sas67>but cant connect to firefox
10:16<ZeuZ>bougi: get the mirror lines from, seach for mirrors
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10:16<bougi>ZeuZ: should I search for some particular mirrors?
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10:17<ZeuZ>no, just get the one for your branch... if you're using ETCH, get the stable ones, if lenny, the testing ones, if SID the unstable ones, if experimental, experimental ones
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10:22<bougi>ZeuZ: em, a kinda silly question. I had originally installed debian from a CD but I don't remember if it was etch or lenny. Is it important and is there a way to find out? In the past I have updated the system from unstable repositories.
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10:22<witte>bougi: if you have done an apt-get dist-upgrade lately, and you didn't use apt-pinning, you are now running debian unstable
10:22<Yoshy>Hello, I have a problem with pam_ldap, I keep getting "nscd: nss_ldap: could not get LDAP result - Timed out" and after a while I get "nscd: nss_ldap: reconnected to [...] after 1 attempt"
10:22<ZeuZ>paste me one line of your sources.list where it starts with DEB here, and I'll tell you
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10:23<bougi>ok I see
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10:23<bougi>ZeuZ: deb unstable main contrib non-free
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10:24<witte>bougi: dpkg -l libc6|tail -1
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10:25<bougi>witte: libc6 2.7-8
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10:25<witte>bougi: that is unstable
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10:25<ZeuZ>you're using unstable version bougi, but it's weird that you're not seing the package, that line is uncommented right?
10:26<bougi>ZeuZ: yes I only have 3 lines uncommented
10:26<witte>bougi: can you state the real problem again please, i only recently joined this channel
10:26<bougi>ZeuZ: and this is one of them
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10:27<ZeuZ>bougi: run apt-get update and check again
10:27<ZeuZ>witte: He cannot find ia32-libs though apt
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10:28<witte>bougi: are you sure you run the amd64 bit architecture?
10:28<bougi>witte: I can't "see" ia32-libs with apt and can't install it. And this is causing some X applications to fail with. Or what ZeuZ said :)
10:29<bougi>witte: uname -a : Linux 2.6.24-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 11 16:01:54 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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10:30<witte>bougi: ok, that is the same as i have
10:30<bougi>witte: CPU : AMD Athlon x2
10:31<witte>bougi: ok, but it could be that you were running the i386 architecture, which would work as well (and have less problems with flash etc)
10:31<witte>bougi: apt-cache search ia32
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10:32<bougi>witte: this returns: elilo, lsb-* refit, microcode.ctl .that's all
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10:35<witte>well, it't on the repository ( and the repository is one of the main ones, so it should be fine
10:36<bougi>witte: if it isn't a problem could you paste the line from sources.list that reads this repository to test it here?
10:36<witte>bougi: ok, but it is quite a distance from the states: deb unstable main contrib non-free
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10:42<bougi>witte: in order to test, I commented all my sources.list lines and left only the one you provided uncommented. I did apt-get update and then still nothing
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10:43<ZeuZ>bougi: You've got anything important that you should backup?
10:44<witte>bougi: you are running an i386 architecture, with an amd64 kernel
10:44<witte>sorry, i386 port
10:44<bougi>this doens't sound good :) Well I always backup...
10:45<ZeuZ>lol, well yeah, because to ease your life I would say format and it would be done... then you reinstall directly the amd64 version, and you've got everything pretty much done...
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10:45<witte>bougi: can you post the output of "dpkg -l|grep i386" to a pastebin?
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10:46<ZeuZ>bougi: just in case, is a site where you can paste a lot of info, then pass a url to us, and it would not be considered like spamming
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10:47<bougi>ZeuZ: I was checking just this on wikipedia ;) and wanted to say just a moment to set this up
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10:53<bougi>well i386 returned nothing and I tried several other strings
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10:58<witte>bougi: I did the same on my machine:
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11:01<bougi>witte: hm, I see you have additional things, missing in mine, like libc6-dev-i386
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11:02<witte>bougi: yes, but i am not sure what is the problem, i still think you run i386, but i am unsure on how to test it :-)
11:03<Garp>Question: the "ps" command used to display processes in reversed time order. Now, it display it in apparently random order. Is there an easy way to get the old beavior back? Thanks.
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11:03<bougi>witte, ZeuZ so you think I used a i386 CD (I used CD distro) to do the installation and then put the amd kernel?
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11:03<witte>bougi: well, the amd64 kernel is also distributed with the i386 architecture
11:04<witte>those are not that different, and you can run i386 on a amd64 architecture without problems
11:04<ZeuZ>Thingy passes from another stage...
11:05<ZeuZ>Like, he-s not finding packets for his architecture.
11:05<witte>bougi: apt-cache show libc6-amd64
11:05<witte>bougi: apt-cache show apt-cache show libc6-i386
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11:08<ZeuZ>brb, building mozilla firefox 3.0b3
11:09<witte>bougi: look at the filename line ;-)
11:09<bougi>witte: it's the other way around
11:09<witte>bougi: and compare them ;-)
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11:09<bougi>witte: yep, you have Architecture: amd64
11:09<Garp>Answer: ps --sort start_time
11:10<witte>bougi: ah,even more clear, there is an architecture line
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11:10<witte>bougi: so what was your real problem, before the search for ia32-libs
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11:13<bougi>witte: well ... some X applications couldn't run, I couldn't find appropriate 32 libs and then couldn't find ia32 and then I realised I run embeddeb debian on an watch :)
11:14<bougi>witte: the error was mainly " wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64"
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11:14<bougi>witte: in different flavors (when running mplayer, amarok)
11:16<bougi>witte: I worked these problems around using for example vlc instead of mplayer, but today I had time and thought I should solve this...
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11:21<witte>bougi: did you install any packages that are 64bit by not using apt-get?
11:22<witte>bougi: apt-get install --reinstall usr/lib/
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11:22<bougi>witte: no I have only used apt so far, no custom deb packages
11:22<omar>Hello, Im looking for help with a camera- can anyone point me in the right direction?
11:23<witte>omar: webcam or photo cam?
11:23<witte>omar: for the second, gphoto
11:24<omar>Its a photo camera and Im trying to get to work as a usb webcam
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11:25<bougi>witte: the " usr/lib/" is correct? I get a "E: Couldn't find package usr"
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11:25<witte>bougi: no, it isnt
11:26<Garp>omar: Do you have informations that tells you taht tis is possible ?
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11:26<witte>bougi: wrong paste: apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
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11:26<omar>its not a webcam (thank you tho). It is an HP photosmart digital camera
11:26<Garp>omar: most camera I know cannot (natively) do that. Maybe by hacking the firmware, but that's likely not trivial
11:26<omar>no I dont
11:27<omar>how complex are we talking?
11:27<Garp>omar: camera basicaly have two modes : "shot a picture and copy it to some SD" and "manage the SD as an USB mass-storage system"
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11:28<Garp>omar: but none I klnow can even take a piclure while connected on an usb cable
11:28<Garp>omar: to me, this is hight level hacking, if ever possible.
11:29<Garp>omar: I remeber reading something about this, but I may be wwrong
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11:29<bougi>witte: ok I reinstalled. Tried $mplayer but nothing I would like to ask if the AMD64 port imposes any problems?
11:30<bougi>witte: I mean is it worth the trouble?
11:30<Garp>omar: humm.. Seems that some are doing this quite easily...
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11:31<witte>bougi: amd64 has less software support for things like codecs, flash, java, but uses the machine slightly better
11:31<Garp>omar: well, those have a "cam" function built-in
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11:32<witte>bougi: if you have a desktop, i would say, stay with i386
11:32<petemc>other than memory support, what way would 64bit "use the machine slightly better" ?
11:32<Marou>I'm thinking about installing debian unstable on another hard drive so I can play with some of the new packages out there without Jeopardizing my stable build. Anyone got any links for helpful info on how to go about this? Google fails me.
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11:33<azeem>Marou: installing on another hard drive is completely straight forward
11:33<petemc>Marou: install stable, change sources.list, aptitude update ; aptitude dist-upgrade
11:33<azeem>Marou: install Debian 4.0 on it, then ugprade to unstable
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11:34<azeem>Marou: note that you can also just install unstable in a chroot on your main installation
11:34<bougi>witte: well I use desktop and I am quite new to linux. I use debian & linux as my main workstation for 4 months now
11:34<witte>petemc: that was what i ment
11:34<petemc>ah, ok
11:34<Marou>Thanks, I'll probably just image my drive and then try to upgrade
11:34<bougi>witte: so I guess I'll stick with the i386 :)
11:34<shivraj>Marou : use your BIOS and switch HDS ? or EDIT boot file ?
11:35<Garp>petemc: the cpu is optimized for 64bits, all bench are done there now. Trust the fab to have choose a slight design optimisation for 64bits doing large degradations in 32 bits modes against any big 32bit optimisation
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11:35<shivraj>Marou : only make the one you want to load bootable
11:35<Marou>shivraj: yeah, just gonna edit grub config
11:35<witte>petemc: well, at least: i know that is is better in some respect, but that the difference is just not that big
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11:36<witte>bougi: can you do "mplayer" and paste the output to a pastebin
11:36<Garp>petemc: I've read about 20% optimisation for computing intensive tasks (but I've not checked myself)
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11:36<Garp>petemc: with same code just recompiled for a 64 bits machine
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11:37<witte>bougi: i am going to look for an other example, the file did not play on my pc :-)
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11:38<witte>bougi: our first download it, and play the downloaded version
11:39<UncleDave>Are there any known issues with the openssh-server package? 4.3p2-9 won't install right, there are ssh-keygen errors (presumably in a post-install script) on my system.
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11:41<nicktimju>can anyone recommend a command line irc chat client, I want to use it through a ssh tunnel
11:41<nowhere_man>how can I know what makes a kernel module being "in use"?
11:41<petemc>nicktimju: irssi
11:41<witte>nicktimju: i use irc in emacs :-)
11:41<nicktimju>ahhh, that was the one someone recommended, thanks
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11:41<nicktimju>i'm on bitchx now
11:41<Garp>petemc: see here for some real data:
11:41<witte>nicktimju: bitchx has some security issues i believe
11:42<Garp>petemc: compare "32-bit legacy" with "64-bit"
11:42<Garp>petemc: at least 20%...
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11:43<Garp>petemc: and those are not "markeing" benchmarks, it's real physics analysis applications used everyday
11:43<nicktimju>was used to x-chat, now that port 6667 is blocked I have to tunnel through
11:43<Kosma>have you tried some similar port, like 6666 or 6668?
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11:44<nicktimju>new security ruling, no irc chat because of unsecured downloads
11:44<nicktimju>so just have to tunnel through
11:44<nicktimju>will be back
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11:58<bougi>witte: I used another ogg file ('cause I couldn't download your example) from the vorbis site - (audio).
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12:06<kernel_panic>quickie question for an awk/sed/gawk guru ifn anyone's around
12:06<kernel_panic>I forgot how to take a list out of mysql and convert it to a comma delim format for use in a /etc/mail/aliases file
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12:07<kernel_panic>como estas?
12:07<paulina>io bene
12:07<paulina>e tu
12:07<kernel_panic>eh??? stopped talking Spanish in 4th grade :(
12:07<paulina>ma quie que parla
12:08<kernel_panic>donde esta el bano? :)
12:08<paulina>io no parle inglis
12:08<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, prova il canale #debian-it, oppure #linux-it.
12:08<paulina>no che lo
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12:09<paulina>civediaMO PRESTO
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12:09<kernel_panic>oh well... I'll keep plugging along until I figure this one out... I know it's something silly I've overlooked
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12:10<Kosma>I'm attempting to install Lenny using those netboot images:
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12:11<Kosma>and the installer says that no kernel modules were found on the mirror
12:11<Kosma>wtf? :/
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12:12<azeem>Kosma: lenny isn't stable
12:12<azeem>Kosma: install etch and upgrade if you want to run testing, or wait until the lenny d-i beta1 is released
12:13<Kosma>this is weird, I've used those netboot images two weeks ago and they worked -_-
12:13<Kosma>isn't there any way to install lenny directly?
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12:14<azeem>did you read what I just said?
12:14<paistis>Kosma: you can download testing
12:14<azeem>there's a way, but it's not guaranteed to work, and I haven't seen much success stories
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12:19<mrteez>are there any good web editor no wysywyg with ftp-support ?
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12:19<mrteez>and avascript, php, ...
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12:21<madroach>what are the differences between xvncviewer xvnc4viewer and tightvncviewer?? The descriptions don't say very much.
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12:21<d0rt>mrteez, sure, emacs
12:21<Kosma>madroach: each of them has its own features and peculiarities
12:21<Kosma>and it's best to use the same kind of server and client for maximum performance & compatibility
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12:22<madroach>Kosma: That's what I guessed. But what are the differences?
12:22<Kosma>for example, UltraVNC serwer doesn't play well with non-UltraVNC viewers
12:22<Kosma>well.. you'd have to browse each product's website
12:22<lockoff>hi. Totem doesnt play sound in Flash Video. Do I have to download some codec or a player?
12:22<Kosma>tightvnc has nice compression features
12:23<Kosma>ultravnc has lots of features but is windows-only
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12:24<padski>i have eth0 and eth1 on the same subnet. when I ping the eth0 address with a packet to eth1, eth1 replies from the eth0 address. the packets don't seem to pass through the forwarding chain, or be affected by /proc/sys/net/ipv4. am I wrong to be surprised ?
12:24<madroach>Kosma: But vncviewers description says that it is now also able to compress. I think I understand the difference between tightvnc and ultravnc. But what's the difference between xvncviewer and xvnc4viewer?
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12:25<padski>(eth0 is in fact disconnected)
12:26<lockoff>what can i do to hear sound from Totem playing Fash Video?
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12:46<valdyn>paistis: youre wrong to be surprised
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12:46<paistis>valdyn: what?
12:47<valdyn>sorry, tab completion..
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13:39<kDaibes>ola pessoal
13:39<kDaibes>boa tarde
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13:40<kDaibes>alguem pode responder para ver se ta funfando aki
13:40<kDaibes>instalei agora o XCHAT
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13:41<kDaibes>td bem??
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13:42<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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13:52<robt>hi! i need to know how to block mi /etc/resolv.conf, because i need the DNS i put on don't be changed when i restarted my laptop, i tried with chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf but it didn't work, that gave me this error chattr: Función ioctl no apropiada para el dispositivo mientras se estaban leyendo las banderas en /etc/resolv.conf
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13:53<craigevil>preappend the nameserver in dhcp3
13:53<robt>sorry, but the error is in spanish 'cause i'm using debian in spanish...
13:53<robt>how do i do that?
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14:01<craigevil>i think it depends on which dhcp client you use, on my system its /etc/dhcp3/dhcp3client.conf
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14:01<craigevil>there is a line in the .conf that mentions preappend
14:01<eric__>is there a debian-kde channel somewhere ?
14:02<craigevil>yes but its usually dead
14:02<craigevil>its #debian-kde
14:02<robt>craigevil, should i put both dns address on preappend?
14:02<eric__>i just upgraded kcontrol and the keymap feature has vanished
14:03<craigevil>eric__: which release are you running?
14:03<craigevil>robt: the ones you want to always use yes
14:03<eric__>craigevil mainly etch, but the kcontrol i installed is from lenny
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14:04<craigevil>eric__: there was an issue with qt3-mt messing up kcontrol in sid a while back, you probably need the same qt3-mt version as the kcontrol
14:04<robt>craigevil, would you see my /etc/dhcp3/dhcp3client.conf? i¿m gonna paste it and give you the link
14:04<craigevil>sure go ahead
14:04<dkr>robt: prepend domain-name-servers not preappend
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14:05<dkr>and it is dhclient.conf I think
14:06<dkr>yeah, look at man dhclient.conf
14:06<craigevil>depends on which client you use
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14:06<eric__>craigevil i'll try that thx
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14:07<craigevil>etc/dhcp3/dhcp3client.conf whats on my system, but it may not be the same on his, then again i run sid not stable
14:08<robt>craigevil, here it is
14:08<robt>i'm running testing
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14:09<craigevil>on this line #prepend domain-name-servers; uncomment it and add the nameservers you want to use
14:09<dkr>yeqh, you are requesting domain-name-servers, rather than prepending it
14:10<dkr>and remove domain-name-servers from the request line
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14:10<robt>these are my dns nameserver nameserver, hot the line should be?
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14:11<robt>how.. i mean
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14:12<robt>i have to put both ip's separated by ; ???
14:13<robt>and remove domain-name-servers from the request line ???
14:13<robt>not comment it??
14:13<craigevil>hm i didnt touch that when i changed my to use, so im not sure about that one
14:14<robt>so i'll just add the two other dns
14:15<robt>so, now my line looks like this
14:15<robt>prepend domain-name-servers;
14:15<robt>should i leave a space after the ; ??
14:16<craigevil>thats fine
14:16<robt>ok,now i'll restart my laptop and see
14:16<robt>thanks a lot!
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14:18<alumno>hola a todos!
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14:18<alumno>se admiten respuestas...
14:18<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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14:19<kDaibes>good afteroon
14:19<alumno>where you come from?
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14:21<alumno>hola a todos
14:21<alumno>que tal por aqui
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14:29<kDaibes>or portugal??
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14:30<guillaume>iwlwifi fail to work properly with sid on my laptop (no wmaster0)
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14:43<jc>good afternoon
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14:45<jc>its correct usage of jk_jailuser: jk_jailuser -m -j /home/user user
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14:46<jc>return jk_lsh does not exit invalid shell :(
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14:47<Joido>lets say i am wondering why pppconfig is not available in etch as it used to be in sarge, where could i lookup the information what was done and why?
14:48<craigevil>its in sid , look on the package page, there is probably a reason its not it etch
14:48<craigevil>or lookfor it in
14:49<Joido>yes, thats what i am asking for. my hope is that somewhere on the web is a developer note
14:49<petemc>!+info pppconfig etch
14:49<dpkg>Updating debian files... please wait.
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14:50<GhostlyDeath>Don't fail us now dpkg!
14:50<petemc>its in etch
14:50<petemc>dpkg seems to be a little slow
14:50<dpkg>pppconfig: (A text menu based utility for configuring ppp), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.3.15.etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 154 kB, Installed size: 904 kB
14:51<Joido>another case i try to research is where apt-setup went
14:51<petemc>it was removed
14:51<petemc> /msg dpkg apt-setup
14:51<Joido>is there no list or webpage where developers write about such things?
14:51<petemc>they do it on mailing lists
14:52<Joido>i just unsubscribed from most
14:52<petemc>they're archived and on the web
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14:56<ttyS1>Hello, I just installed the Compiz package on Debian etch, how do I enable it or use it ?
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14:59<linduxed>compiz --replace ??
15:00<ttyS1>linduxed: I haven't try that
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15:02<ttyS1>linduxed: I get: /usr/bin/compiz.real: SmcOpenConnection failed: Authentication Rejected, reason /usr/bin/compiz.real: SmcOpenConnection failed: Authentication Rejected, reason authentication failed
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15:04<ttyS1>compiz.real: No composite extension
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15:05<kether>add composite section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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15:05<kether>hola jose1
15:06<simonrvn>is that all you say?
15:07<simonrvn>not a bot, it's less than a minute, and the time diff. changes every time ;)
15:08<craigevil>no just someone that probably doesn't speak a word of English
15:08<simonrvn>should probably point him at !es
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15:09<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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15:22<ttyS1>kether: this is my xorg.conf what should I add ?
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15:23<kether>ttyS1, comment DRI section
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15:25<ttyS1>kether: ok, just did
15:26<onewithna>Linux newbie here needing expert help.... Trying to compile a realtek driver and get the following error : *** no rule to make target 'modules'. Stop. any ideas?
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15:27<onewithna>2nd note: I am using the debian 2.6.18-6 AMD64 bit version and it did compile for me with the 32 bit version.
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15:31<hachi>I'm seeing "snmpd[6082]: ioctl 35123 returned -1" a lot on this one machine here... anyone else seeing this from snmpd?
15:31<hachi>all the google results I see are blaming it on xen
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15:32<hachi>however... I'm not running xen right now... I'm in a standard kernel
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15:32<debian>I want to set up a ftp server (thinkig vsftpd - since lots of people recommended it as being a good one) but i dont want each user to have their own home directory. Does anyone know of a way to have just one home directory for all ftp users?
15:32<debian>I tried to go through config file but wasn't able to find anything
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15:38<shivraj>anyone know where I can find NVU for debian ?
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15:41<chealer>shivraj: the real thing or kompozer?
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15:41<shivraj>chealer : there's a debian build on the site, .. in Ubuntu works ...
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15:42<shivraj>chealer : you should include it in Lenny, its a really good HTML editor
15:42<chealer>shivraj: I mean, which exact software do you want? the original nvu or kompozer?
15:42<shivraj>NVU which I found on the website
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15:44<chealer>well, the website links to 2 products; for the original software, I'm not aware of any package for Debian - besides those that were removed from Debian for being out-of-date or something like that.
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15:46<shivraj>chealer : under downloads there's a build in ubuntu... it working for me
15:46<shivraj>chealer : there are builds in all sorts of linux distros
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15:48<shivraj>way at the bottom... I used to use NVU in Windows, now with CSS, its gonna be real nice for what I am doing ...
15:48<chealer>shivraj: yeah...well as I told you, for Debian I'm not aware of any maintained packaged of the original nvu. and don't ask me to package it - I wouldn't be much better than anyone else for packaging C software.
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16:28<franco>! list
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16:41<Tuplad>Is there a way how I can run fsck on startup ? I cant be arsed to restart 30 times for it to work :P
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16:42<_shai_>Tuplad: Try tune2fs
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16:42<_shai_>Tuplad: You can at the very least set the time-last-checked, so if you set that to 5 years ago it should run the check on the next boot.
16:43<Tuplad>lets check it out!
16:43<Tuplad>_shai_: or can't I just tune2fs -c 5 so it'll check my hdd each 5 times it has been mounted?
16:44<_shai_>Tuplad: Sure.
16:44<_shai_>Tuplad: It looks like you can also set the mount-count. (Just reading the man page myself)
16:44<Tuplad>_shai_: reading the man page aswell :p
16:44<Tuplad>_shai_: but what's the difference?
16:45<_shai_>Tuplad: -c will set the number of mounts in between checks.
16:45<_shai_>Tuplad: -C will set the number of times the filesystem has actually been mounted.
16:46<Tuplad>aint that kinda the same ? :/
16:46<hachi>I'm seeing "snmpd[6082]: ioctl 35123 returned -1" a lot on this one machine here... anyone else seeing this from snmpd?
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16:47<Tuplad>_shai_: I'm in shame, but, why doesnt it work ? "sudo tune2fs -C 5"
16:47<_shai_>Tuplad: No. The value -C changes will increment by 1 on every boot, until it reaches the value set by -c. Then the fs will be checked and the -C value will be reset to 0.
16:47<dkr>Tuplad: you need to tell tune2fs what to tune
16:48<Tuplad>oh yea lol, good idea
16:48<Tuplad>_shai_: so I should set them both at 5 ?
16:49<_shai_>Tuplad: Just 'tune2fs -l /dev/sda1' to see what the Maximum mount count value is
16:50<_shai_>Tuplad: Then set -C to one more than that.
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16:50<Tuplad>_shai_: I think mine is hda1
16:51<Tuplad>_shai_: Mount count: 26 Maximum mount count: 37
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16:54<Tuplad>_shai_: thanks for the help :)
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16:56<hever_>Hi I've got a problem with my postfix server startup. It starts after dovecot and clamsmtp (or it should start then) but the dovecot or clamsmtp sockets are not available. If I restart postfix then manually it works. I tried to set up the start order in /etc/rcX.d. but helps not.
16:56<hachi>when do bug reports get archived?
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16:57<klando>how can I make `apt-get source -b foobar` use `make -j` ?
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16:57<hachi>klando: I think there's a CONCURRENCY env var you set, documented in either dpkg-buildpackage or something like that
16:57<dondelelcaro>klando: set MAKEFLAGS or similar
16:58<hachi>oh, no I'm wrong
16:58<hachi>you want to pass it to dpkg-buildpackage somehow, but I don't know what calls dpkg-buildpackage
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16:59<klando>if a config file exist I will be happy :)
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16:59<hever_>Can I tell postfix to wait some time until it tries to start ?
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17:03<klando>thank you dondelelcaro and hachi, I'll look in this way
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17:03<hachi>how does one decide what level to run reportbug at?
17:03<hachi>should I start at like... 3 and see if I grok all the questions, then move down?
17:03<hachi>sorry, advanced
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17:04<dondelelcaro>hachi: doesn't really matter; when you're really advanced, you don't even need to use reportbug.
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17:11<hever_>how can I find out why a package has been kept back from upgrade ?
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17:23<hachi>this is weird:
17:23<hachi>* snmpd/upgradefrom521:
17:23<hachi> says it's from debconf
17:23<hachi>what does it mean?
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17:27<hever_>I've problems with my postfix server because dovecot's or clamsmtp's sockets are not available after startup. I've to restart postfix manually to fix this. Any ideas to fix this ? I already set up postfix to start after them. Perhaps it starts too fast ?
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17:27<javo>hi. i want to connect a bluetooth mouse to my debian lenny, but seems like i have no permissions to do it. If i run "hidd --search" as root, the mouse connects well, but if i do the same as my user, it tells me "HID create error 13 (Permission denied)"
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17:28<javo>does somebody knows anything about?
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17:29<ignu>How do I get flashplayer for iceweasel? I tried the instructions at
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17:37<tyi>hi all, I'm trying to open my Cacti webpage that I just installed, but instead of loading thepage, it tries to download the php page instead and fails.
17:37<rbw_>javo, check the logs or enable higher verbosity for the hidd command might be an idea..
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17:38<tyi>It seems like I don't have mod_php5.c on my system that seems needed.
17:38<rbw_>tyi, you're probably missing some php module
17:38<tyi>Any idea?
17:38<javo>how do i enable higher verbosityÇ
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17:38<beefybefay>hello all
17:38<javo>i have not idea about what verbosity means :P
17:39<rbw_>javo, 'man hidd' or 'hidd --help' I guess
17:39<javo>thanks rbw_
17:39<omar>hello all
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17:39<omar>I need to know how to hack an HP photosmart camera
17:39<omar>any ideas?
17:41<beefybefay>whats a good linux program to customize dvds
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17:42<rbw_>tyi, I assume you've installed php support for apache?
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17:43<omar>well...can anyone point me in the right direction?
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17:44<Xenguy>beefybefay: define "customize" :-)
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17:45<hachi>reportbug formatted up a report for me
17:45-!-Netsplit <-> quits: Sharrow
17:45<hachi>but where do I put my extra information in it?
17:46<condeh>hi, anyone got any experience getting a saitek cyborg evo wireless to work?
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17:47<tyi>rbw_, I've apt-get php5 php5-common php5-cli
17:47<tyi>and most likely others.
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17:47<hever_>How can I tell my server to wait some time between starting deamon1 and deamon2 ?
17:48<rbw_>tyi, which version of apache are you using?
17:48<chealer>!tell condeh about anyone
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17:49<rbw_>if so; try 'aptitude install libapache-mod-php5'
17:49<condeh>fair point.
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17:49<rbw_>I meant 'libapache2-mod-php5' of course..
17:49<condeh>Has anyone got a cyborg evo wirless to work? I cant seem to have it pick up any buttons/axis movement from the joystick.
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17:50<GhostlyDeath>Did I drop?
17:50<chealer>hachi: you're trying to report a new bug, and you just answered reportbug's questions, right?
17:51<hachi>but do I put my extra info between the secverity and the --System Information?
17:51<hathe>hever_: worst way would be to instert a 'sleep x' in first daemon start script (or at the beginning of second)
17:51<chealer>hachi: do you see the "*** Please type your report below this line ***" line?
17:51<hachi>there isn't one
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17:52<hachi>it just cracked open nano (which I'll be fixing my EDITOR var after I finish this) and had a mostly formatted bug report
17:53<chealer>hachi: which package are you reporting a bug against?
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17:53<hachi>why does that matter?
17:53<chealer>hachi: which Debian suite do you use?
17:53<chealer>hachi: I'm not sure it does, I just want to make sure
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17:53<hachi>testing and unstable have the same version of snmpd in thenm
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17:54<hever_>hathe, perhaps you can help me? my postfix server has problems because after starting some sockets from other servers not ready so I've to restart the postfix deamon manually...
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17:55<hachi>snmpd is polling an interface called "internal" for stats
17:55<hachi>but there is no such device
17:55<hachi>and there hasn't been since reboot
17:55<chealer>hachi: I for one see that line
17:56<hachi>I can happily take a screenshot of what I see, but I assure you it's not there
17:56<chealer>hachi: regarding your first question, it's a snmpd configuration parameter. The fact that nothing shows after the column means that the parameter is unset.
17:56<hachi>I think the fact that the key is there at all is the data
17:57<st>sorry to interupt you, but i've got a problem after installing linux-image-2.6.22-3-686
17:57<hachi>I was just curious why the key exists
17:57<hathe>hever_: just put a 'sleep 5' at the beginning of the init script, but as I said, thats a really bad hack, would be much better handle those sockets
17:57<chealer>hachi: here's what I get:
17:58<hachi>hathe: if the thing you're talking about uses a file in /etc/default like a lot of them do
17:58<hachi>you can put the sleep in there instead
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17:58<hachi>and you don't have to worry about the package overwriting your hack so much
17:58<hachi>makes it a tiny bit better
17:58<chealer>hachi: I don't think, because I just installed to test what reportbug does, and I also saw that key.
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17:59<hathe>hachi: true
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18:01<st>does someone have got a problem after installing linux-image-2.6.22-3-686
18:01<chealer>st: did you look at the BTS?
18:02<st>nope. it stands for...?
18:03<hever_>hathe, what do you mean with handle sockets ?
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18:06<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try or . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of sid and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for sid and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges .
18:06<chealer>Xenguy: he left...
18:06<Xenguy>chealer: ahh, indeed
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18:07<hathe>hever_: check other daemons and wait till they are finished and then continue...
18:07<fabio>is there any chance to get some support for the the sid release ?
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18:08<hathe>hever_: I mean handle taht what you ment with: <hever_> hathe, perhaps you can help me? my postfix server has problems because after starting some sockets from other servers not ready so I've to restart the postfix deamon manually...
18:08<hever_>hathe, I thought that a deamon is started if another has already end startup S19 S20 ....
18:08<Xenguy>fabio: you can always ask, but not everyone runs sid of course
18:08<fabio>ok thank you
18:09<fabio>it's about the bootsplash
18:09<Xenguy>fabio: at least I'm not aware there is any problem asking about sid
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18:09<fabio>there is some unmet dependency and no way for me to get the progress bar working
18:10<hachi>snmpd is querying a device on my system called 'internal' for stats
18:10<hachi>however, the 'internal' device hasn't existed for several reboots, and restarts of snmpd
18:10<hachi>it's not in the config file, or on the command line
18:10<fabio>sysv-rc-bootsplash requires requires a package that is nowhere to be found...
18:10<hachi>the device doesn't actually exist at all
18:10<hever_>hathe, thanks it works with the delay. But just to know if I start one S19 and the other S20 the S20 is not waiting until S19 has completed startup ?
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18:10<hachi>so where's this device coming from?
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18:12<hathe>hever_: as it did not work for you I assume no ;)
18:13<hever_>sure ;)
18:14<chealer>hachi: it seems to be a problem on my end - reportbug wasn't configured. now that it has expert configuration, the line isn't there.
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18:15<fabio>where does the /etc/init.d/rc file come from ?
18:15<fabio>can i get it from someone else ?
18:16<hathe>fabio: dpkg -S /etc/init.d/rc
18:16<tyi>rbw_, yes apache2, seems like libapache2-mod-php5 is already installed, should I remove and try reinstalling again?
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18:17<hachi>chealer: hah, okay, that explains why
18:17<hachi>I picked... advanced... or expert
18:17<hachi>whichever one was the lower one
18:17<hachi>I don't think I'm a debian god
18:18<fabio>one last question
18:19<fabio>which is the best choice for a duo core processor ?
18:19<fabio>i386 or amd64 ?
18:19<hathe>fabio: how much ram, you need ndiswrapper/flash/multimedia?
18:20<hachi>depends on the operations you're doing and how much ram you wan the system to address quickly, for caching, or for a single process to address
18:20<fabio>i need the flash of course
18:20<chealer>fabio: is it 64-bits?
18:20<fabio>i read that i386 is ok
18:20<fabio>or at least a safer choice
18:20<fabio>but with a performance loss
18:20<hathe>fabio: 32bit is the safer choice, yes
18:21<fabio>and what about ati e aiglx ?
18:21<hathe>fabio: there is a performance difference, but i did not "feel" it, running a 32bit system on a core2duo here too
18:21<hathe>fabio: and tested 64bit for few days
18:22<fabio>are you using vnvidia or ati ?
18:23<hathe>fabio: intel
18:23<hathe>fabio: but nvidia/ati are working of course for 64bit as well
18:23<fabio>i'm using ati now but i know that nvidia is better
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18:24<fabio>i would like to use compiz fusion
18:24<fabio>.....there is no sysv-rc (= 2.86.ds1-38)
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18:25<fabio>that is where the rc file comes from and i can't patch it for the bootsplash
18:26<hathe>fabio: what has bootsplash to do with compiz fusion?
18:26<fabio>nothing indeed
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18:27<fabio>compiz is working for me, but the bootsplash does'nt
18:28<hathe>fabio: bootsplash is known to make trouble with sid
18:29<fabio>it's just that progress bar...
18:29<fabio>i tried to patch that file with the patch command but won't work
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18:39<lontra>why would you use bootsplash and not splasy?
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19:00<shivraj>this might seem like a dumb question but whats a 64 bit computer ?
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19:01<shivraj>can I change my swap space to 8gig and use the amd64 kernel ?
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19:03<somae7>is there a way to format a cdr disk with cdrwtool?
19:04<dondelelcaro>somae7: wodim with blank
19:04<path>shivraj, basically a cpu 64 processor & architecture
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19:04<somae7>I want to use it as udf
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19:05<shivraj>path : a 64 bit motherboard ?
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19:05<path>shivraj, yep :)
19:06<dondelelcaro>!dbugs 468260
19:06<dpkg>#468260:N[snmpd] snmpd: ioctl failure on non-existant interface, excessive logging; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:03:02 UTC
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19:08<somae7>if I blank it with wodim will I be able to mount it as udf?
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19:09<DijitalWench>Q: Is it possible to have the installer skip configuring ssl-cert (and if so, how)?
19:09<dondelelcaro>I don't know what you need to do to mount the disks as udf, since I've never used them like that.
19:09<fenix>eaih blz
19:09<dondelelcaro>DijitalWench: why would you want to?
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19:10<somae7>I'll give it a try
19:10<fenix>the book's on the table? (hahahaha)
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19:10<DijitalWench>dondelelcaro: I am trying to install Lenny (Etch and prior versions cannot install on this motherboard due to no chipset drivers), but it hangs at "Configuring ssl-cert"
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19:11<fenix>i am 1brazilian!!!!!!!!!
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19:12<hachi>"Hay guys, look at me, I'm brazilian!!!!"
19:12*hachi coughs
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19:14<somae7>dondel: wodim gives an error
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19:20<ellobo>i've managed to get my laptop to suspend/resume, but after resume the disk clicks (writes or reads) every 1 second.. is there any way to know the app that is writting or reading in this manner ?
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19:21<shivraj>hachi : are you gay ?
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19:21<dpkg>It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced.
19:21<shivraj>./clear everyone
19:22<hachi>shivraj: I was channeling the person 'fenix' who was in here shortly befor I said that
19:22<vook>hachi: we need to know nothing more.
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19:23*ellobo refrases...
19:24<ellobo>how to I monitor disk IO and programs writting to disk ?
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19:24<hachi>ellobo: you can use iostat maybe?
19:25<vook>hachi: top may give you a clue as well.
19:25<ellobo>vook: not really
19:25<hachi>top doesn't talk about IO At all
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19:25<vook>A clue - top may hint to the process
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19:26<hachi>oh, I thought ellobo just wanted to see the io stats
19:26<vook>hachi: ya, ok. the second question was more specific.
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19:27<ellobo>problem is this every second writes in my disk
19:27<ellobo>can't figure out the program doing this :/
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19:29<vook>ellobo: do you mean it's trashing? Or is it a single drive "hit" in a sequential pattern? Maybe disable and reenable your swap after resume.
19:29<ellobo>vook: let me try that
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19:30<ellobo>vook: nop... swapoff -a and then swapon -a
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19:31<ellobo>vook: still, the, click... (1second)...
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19:31<vook>ah, that's interesting - try restarting all your acpi
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19:36<ellobo>vook: no...
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19:36<ellobo>vook: keeps on clicking... s@£t I've already solved this one earlier this eyar... but can't remember how :)
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19:36<hachi>anyone know how to get Xorg to not blank the screen at all?
19:37<@Ganneff>xset dpms
19:37<hachi>I'm doing xset s noblank
19:37<@Ganneff>-dpms i think
19:37<hachi>oh... crap
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19:56<ellobo>vook: found it... :)
19:57<ellobo>vook: was pcscd - PCMCIA daemon
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20:07<bahamat>does anybody know what "pam_mysql_check_passwd() returning 6" or "pam_sm_authenticate() returning 7" means when using pam_mysql?
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20:23<vook>in the absense of a k7 image for 2.6.24 in sid, would 686 suffice?
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20:26<octothorp88>Does anyone know why Midnight Commander would display messed up char's when run under screen?
20:26<vook>octothorp88: try setting your locale to en_US (export LANG=en_US)
20:28<octothorp88>Nope, same result with LANG=en_US
20:29<Marou>anyone using unstable messed with the new grub config yet?
20:29<octothorp88>Though when I run Midnight Commander under screen using xterm it works fine. only when I'm running under aterm, so I would assume that something is messed up with aterm
20:29<vook>octothorp88: are you seeing a bunch of "ââ"'s
20:30<octothorp88>yes that's what it looks like
20:30<vook>that's what I get when my locale is en_US.UTF8
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20:31<vook>I don't even run under UTF8 - for that reason.
20:34<vook>octothorp88: ah, it could be your TERM setting too
20:34<keylocker>someone know why my PERC2 are doing this: megaraid: ABORTING-1 cmd=12 <c=0 t=0 l=0> megaraid: ABORTING-1[7d], fw owner
20:34<keylocker>(and goes to initramfs console)
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21:01<gonzo>trouble using ffmpeg to capture youtubes, anybody else?
21:02<gonzo>trouble using ffmpeg to reformat youtubes.flv into .avi, anybody else?
21:03<kp>forward slash exit
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21:13*shivraj is grateful for adobe acrobat reader for Linux ;)
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21:41<widrone>I watched a linux kernel boot on my wii today and all I could really think was "debootstrap", then it landed me without a login possibility ofcourse, think a debian ppc kernel could boot the (almost) same way?
21:45<widrone>thing is, there is an arm in there too... that makes it all the more confusing really. But still interesting =P
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21:52<eldowan>I know this isn't debian related, but I'm not sure where I'd start to look. I'm trying to find a web browser that allows for all the values in use to be seen ( GET POST etc) and edit them en route. I'm developing some sites now, and would like to check my sites against this. Anyone know of anythign?
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21:54<blarson>eldowan: telnet :-)
21:54<eldowan>blarson: I'm not sure I understand
21:55<blarson>eldowan: telnet webhost 80 Then send whatever commands you want.
21:55<eldowan>hmm interesting. Is there a reference that spells out how to do this? (I've never really used telnet)
21:56<eldowan>blarson: it seems like it might be self explanitory...
21:57<eldowan>I remember looking at a browser a while back that allowed all kinds of neat editing of values on the fly. Grrr. (I need javascript, etc..)
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22:11<mixed>I just installed ubuntu studio on my machine, anyone know how to make the mouse scroll wheel work correctly?
22:11<dpkg>rumour has it, forums is, or (basically dead)
22:12<shivraj>mixed : whats ubuntu studio ?
22:12<mixed>no more obotu?
22:12<mixed>shivraj, it's ubuntu, just with the real time kernel
22:13<shivraj>I see
22:13<shivraj>why dont you check with #ubuntu on
22:14<mixed>aahhh yes! I just installed it and konversation sent me to this server, I'll add it to my list of servers, thank you SHIVRAJ
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22:16<sime>hi guys!
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22:16<sime>i modified my /etc/network/interfaces manually and the applet network manager seems broken
22:17<eldowan>sime: what did you add / remove?
22:17<sime>eldowan, change eth0 from dhcp to static ip
22:18<eldowan>sime: can you use #flood or a pastebin to paste your current interfaces ?
22:18<sime>eldowan, #flood is on invite only
22:19<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
22:19<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like:,,, for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
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22:21<eldowan>sime: do you get an error message on ifup?
22:21<eldowan>oh, sorry you siad network manager seems broken. does the interface still work?
22:22<lontra>sime: you want to use network-manager with eth0?
22:22<sime>eldowan, if you know a way,I can just remove the applet since I prefer configuring my thing in the console
22:22<sime>eldowan, yes it does
22:22<eldowan>sime: if you are just looking to enable/disable, sudo ifup eth0 or sudo ifdown eth0
22:23<sime>eldowan, my eth0 works properly,the applet (little icon in my taskbar) is broken
22:23<sime>eldowan, I just want to remove it
22:23<eldowan>sime: aah, I'm not sure about anything to do with the applet. I only use it with my wireless on the laptop.
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22:23<sime>eldowan, no problem iĺl google a little more..
22:23<eldowan>sime: you should be able to right click it, and close (in kde)
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22:24<sime>eldowan, if I right click on it I can see credits or activate network wich does nothing
22:24<sime>I m on gnome
22:25<eldowan>sime: aah, I don't know gnome. I'm just gushing usefullness tonight... :D
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22:25<sime>anyway dont bother.. I have difficulties expressing myself in english... i ll try google a little more thx a lot anyway!
22:25<eldowan>luck to you
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22:31<jscinoz>I'm working on packages for a quake 3 engine game called Urban Terror, i was aiming to get this included in ubuntu 8.04 but it's past the feature freeze now, i was advised to attempt to get it into debian as it would then be included in future ubuntu releases, where can i find information about packaging specifics for debian (e.g. versioning and other policies)?
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22:48<kapil>jscinoz: aptitude install developers-reference maint-guide
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22:51<jscinoz>thank you
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23:09<f43_>does anyone know where the update folder is ??? i want to back all of my updates :)
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23:10<RyanRyan62>f43_: huh?
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23:11<RyanRyan62>f43_: first of all they are called directories in linux (folder is windows talk)
23:11<RyanRyan62>f43_: 2nd...what do you mean u eant ur updates back?
23:11<f43_>do you know where the updates are stored in the file system>
23:11<RyanRyan62>f43_: what do you mean 'the updates'?
23:11<f43_>o sory
23:11<RyanRyan62>the new versions of packages?
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23:12<f43_>well i want to reformat and start fresh,,, so do you know where all of the updates are
23:12<RyanRyan62>they are on the mirror :D
23:13<RyanRyan62>It does do some caching in /var/cache/apt/archives/ but that won't do you much good
23:13<RyanRyan62>cause its not a repository
23:14<RyanRyan62>why do you want your internet that slow?
23:14<RyanRyan62>cause there shouldn't be that many
23:15<RyanRyan62>unless you are running lenny or sid...
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23:15<f43_>well i have 760 dsl, but i am open for like 2 hours
23:15<kapil>RyanRyan62, f43_, you can backup /var/cache/apt/archives and re-use it as long as you restore it back to the same location.
23:16<f43_>o hmm so that will work
23:17<kapil>step1: backup /var/cache/apt/archives/ to external media. step 2: re-install. step 3: copy files back to /var/cache/apt/archives. step 4: run update.
23:17<kapil>at step 4 it will only download newer versions or corrupted versions (md5sums of packages must match those listed in the signed Packages file)
23:18<f43_>hmm i am new to linux
23:19<f43_>so i just use a backup app and use /var/cache/apt/archives
23:19<f43_>for the name
23:19<f43_><RyanRyan62> what do you think?
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23:21<f43_>wow thanks all !!!!!!!!!!!
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