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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-01-09

---Logopened Fri Jan 09 00:00:05 2009
---Daychanged Fri Jan 09 2009
00:00<panthera>we don't use lzma.
00:00<panthera>whatever, you seem to be confused or not really consistent in telling what you want to acchieve in the end,
00:01<panthera>so am not really able to help.
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00:04<Dracie>i know you guys don't use lzma
00:04<Dracie>i was just pointing that out since i refrenced slax
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00:12<mike>i scored a 130 on that iq test
00:12<mike>that has to be bogus Xd
00:13<Dracie>mike lol nice
00:13<Dracie>im just a kid
00:13<Dracie>how old are you?
00:13<mike>dracie im 18 lol
00:13<Dracie> i am 16
00:13<mike>sweet lol
00:13<Dracie>lma whipper snapper
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00:13<Supaplex>dpkg say Dracie: who's this mike guy? ;)
00:13<dpkg>Dracie: who's this mike guy? ;)
00:14<mike><--- is this mike guy haha
00:14<Dracie>I'm still pissed about how quake live is windows only
00:15<mike>eh someones bound to get it
00:15<Dracie>mike, i doubt it, id software either makes timely releases of the linux with windows or not at all
00:15<Dracie>i think
00:15<mike>haha im nto talkign legally =P
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00:16<Dracie>drives me nuts how metacity doesn't have a shade button by default
00:16<mike>they mite have it
00:16<mike>i don tthink wine is strong enough to run that haha
00:17<Dracie>>> appends to file right?
00:17<Dracie>and > overwrites
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00:22<Dracie>i love crux
00:22<Dracie>great theme
00:22<Dracie>how do i set a terminal in X's title like the command title in cmd.exe
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00:23<twb># mkswap -f /dev/hdb
00:23<twb>mkswap: error: will not try to make swapdevice on '/dev/hdb'
00:23<twb>Why won't it let me?
00:23<Supaplex>Dracie: I think it's in the xterm man page
00:24<twb>(/dev/hdb is actually a file on the host OS, Debian is running in a VM.)
00:24<Dracie>Supaplex, k, i mean like do you know of an universal way to set the title of terminals?
00:24<Dracie>like some command like thing
00:24<Supaplex>it's called echo
00:25<Dracie>i know
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00:28<mike>hmm for some reason flash and my player cant use my sound card at the same time haha
00:28<mike>is that something i can fix?
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00:30<Supaplex>!fix mike's something
00:30*dpkg takes mike's something to the vet for a "special" visit.
00:30<mike>smart ass...
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00:30<Supaplex>what's "my player" ?
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00:31<mike>i meant mplayer =P
00:31<mike>was typing fast and talking to my dad sorry for the typos
00:31<Supaplex>np. we don't charge very much for typos.
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00:32<Supaplex>mike: does lsof show any of those trying to use the same /dev nodes? (run each one, one at a time).
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00:38<Dracie>lsof /dev/device will show what programs are holding the device unmountable
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00:41<Supaplex>hide, ubuntu is a spy!
00:42<Dracie>who? lol
00:42<Dracie>oh lol
00:42<Dracie>i am running ubuntu currently
00:42<Supaplex>Dracie: but /proc/mounts will show mounts that lsof doesn't report.
00:42<Supaplex>i can has mai cheezeburger?
00:43<Dracie>i learned something new :D
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01:12<everettz>Is it possible to run the standard installer from within debian, or from the live CD?
01:15<jm_>no, but there's debootstrap
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01:23<everettz>jm_: Is it possible to shell into the standard installer if booted from a CD / USB?
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01:24<perlsyntax>how do i upgrade python 2.4 on deian?
01:24<jm_>everettz: it provides you shell on 2nd tty
01:24<EmleyMoor>perlsyntax: Which Debian?
01:25<perlsyntax>i try apt-get upgrade python and nouthing happns
01:25<perlsyntax>i did it the internet way
01:25<perlsyntax>i mean the network install
01:25<EmleyMoor>Yes, but which version of Debian?
01:25<perlsyntax>i not sur
01:26<perlsyntax>e sure
01:26<jm_>python will always install the same version, but you can install python-foo
01:26<perlsyntax>what that
01:26<everettz>jm_: I don't think I asked the question very clearly. Is it possible to boot machine1 using the standard installer, and then to connect to machine one using ssh to answer the questions, basically a headless installation?
01:26<jm_>everettz: yes, installer also provides ssh access, but you can also use pre-seeding to not have to answer questions at all
01:27<jm_>everettz: mind you, ssh is not available by default
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01:27<everettz>jm_: Where would I find info on enabling ssh and setting up preceeding so that I am asked no questions?
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01:30<jm_>everettz: hold on
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01:32<perlsyntax>is the dvd more upto date with python 2.5?
01:33<perlsyntax>if i am right
01:33<EmleyMoor>What version of python do you actually want?
01:33<EmleyMoor>What version of Debian are you running?
01:33<perlsyntax>inux debian 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 #1 SMP Tue Dec 2 07:56:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
01:34<perlsyntax>i not really sure
01:34<EmleyMoor>Ah, etch...
01:34<perlsyntax>is that bad
01:34<EmleyMoor>2.4.4 is the latest python available in etch
01:34<everettz>jm_: np, take your time.
01:35<perlsyntax>if i am right the dvd would be better
01:35<perlsyntax>i see
01:35<EmleyMoor>But the DVD is not etch
01:35<perlsyntax>so it would be better
01:35<perlsyntax>i think
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01:36<perlsyntax>i take that a yes
01:36<EmleyMoor>You will need either to go to lenny (which is still "testing" rather than "stable") or backport it
01:37<perlsyntax>but how do i update my package with apt-get?
01:37<perlsyntax>when i update it tell me no package need to be updated.
01:37<EmleyMoor>Without going to lenny, you don't
01:37<EmleyMoor>2.4.4 is the latest python available in etch
01:37<perlsyntax>that sucks
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01:38<jm_>everettz: right, you need to enable it via preseeding
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01:39<everettz>jm_: is there some good preceeding documentation available?
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01:40<jm_>everettz: try this - otherwise preseeding is explained in the installation howto/d-i wiki
01:42<everettz>jm_: thanks
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01:57<mike>anyone know a prgram like u torrent for linux?
01:58<Supaplex>!tell mike -about search
01:58<mike>im running you torrent through wine it doesnt seem the same
01:58<jm_>try rtorrent
02:02<mike>thank you =] r torrent is what i was looking for
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02:15<zero-1>is there anything wrong with debian repositories? I cant install apache nor ruby
02:16<zero-1>I get messages such as
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02:17<jm_>why are you using
02:17<jm_>ftp even
02:18<zero-1>jn, it came on my sources.list by default, which one should I use?
02:20<jm_>zero-1: your local mirror
02:21<zero-1>you mean like /var/cache/apt-build/repository ?
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02:23<jm_>no, like or so
02:24<zero-1>oh ok
02:24<zero-1>I changed it now
02:24<zero-1>let me check again
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02:27<angasule>hm, strange, vlc won't play .flvs any more
02:27<twb>angasule: try mplayer? ;-P
02:28<zero-1>jm_ it did not work either
02:28<angasule>and it's a system issue
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02:29<jm_>zero-1: does it work if you fetch the files with wget?
02:30<zero-1>I would suppose so as it says that the missmatch is in the size if I use dpkg my logic says it should work
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02:37<zero-1>yeah fetching them myself work
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03:30<DanWard>hey guys, how can you rebrand Debian, eg replace GRUB items, change themes?
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03:32<sep>DanWard, i am sure there are many ways. you can look at how debian-edu does it by looking at the debian-edu-artwork and debian-edu-artwork-usplash packages
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03:35<DanWard>ok thanks, and one more thing. In the kernel could you make it before you reach the logon screen it come up with a terminal like thing, and to get to the logon screen you need to type logon or something?
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03:36<sep>DanWard, just do not run any kind of display manager, remove things like kdm gdm ldm xdm etc
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03:37<sep>(do not remove etc it was a bad choise of abbrivation)
03:37<sep> :)
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03:37<DanWard>umm when you login will you still use KDE etc
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03:38<jm_>that's configurable
03:38<DanWard>ok thanks
03:38<DanWard>also how do you disable usplash
03:39<DanWard>would sudo apt-get remove usplash do it?
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03:40<sep>DanWard, aye, you can also remove usplash from the boot arguments in meny.lst
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03:40<DanWard>ok thanks, do you guys work with kubuntu? cause im stuck on really slow internet and cant download debian, its still debian based though
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03:43<suiside>DanWard: ubuntu has its own support channel
03:44<DanWard>yeah i know but im getting debian so i thought you guys could help me with my debian stuff
03:44<DanWard>be back soon, need to restart
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03:47<daniel>ok back
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03:48<DanWard>im firmilar with gnome, whats the kdm do?
03:49<jm_>apt-cache show kdm
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03:49<DanWard>thanks, what happens if i remove KDM?
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03:53<DanWard>is there a general linux channel?
03:54<DanWard>thanks cyas
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04:28<DanWard>hey, what could be removed to slim down debian?
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04:29<jm_>remove packages you don't use to start with
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04:30<codeblue>hey everyone, My sound works when i login but after a day or so it stops and i have to restart to get it back, is there a command I can run to reset it without restarting ?
04:30<DanWard>the only things i use are openoffice, wine and synaptic
04:30<codeblue>im using pulseaudio
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04:31<jm_>codeblue: do you get any error if you try aplay?
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04:31<codeblue>no error but if i restart pulseaudio when I try to play a sound I get a connot connect error
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04:35<Txt-file>jan: some question?
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04:37<jm_>did you check if sound channels are muted?
04:38<codeblue>no there not muted
04:38<marcell_>Hello! I've just installed debian lenny. I need a vnc client, when i write apt-get install vnc it says it is already installed, but i can't use it, i installed realvnc from source, but i can't run it because it needs an older c++ library than it is available in apt
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04:38<codeblue>$ vnc ipaddress port
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04:39<marcell_>bash: vnc: command not found
04:40<marcell_>apt-cache search vnc gives libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 - A VNC viewer widget for GTK+ (runtime libraries)
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04:40<marcell_>if i write apt-get install vnc it says vnc package not found
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04:40<sebd>Hello all
04:40<marcell_>orsomething i dont know the right message i use it in hungarian
04:41<codeblue>apt-get install xvnc4viewer
04:41<petern>that's because "vnc" is not the package name
04:42<marcell_>Fri Jan 9 10:41:48 2009
04:42<marcell_> CConn: connected to host port 1400
04:42<marcell_> CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 4.0
04:42<marcell_> CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.8
04:42<marcell_> CConnection: No matching security types
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04:42<snogglethorpe>btw, anyone know why the instructions for USB install ( seem to imply that even the "flexible method" destroys the contents of the usb stick? as far as I can see, it doesn't...
04:43<sebd>is anyone can help me to install debian etch r6 netinst on dell poweredge 2950 III ? It seem broadcom netxtreme II NIC driver doesn't work.
04:43<snogglethorpe>[that's "USB memory stick install"]
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04:43<codeblue>marcell_ try gvncviewer or vnc-java
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04:44<marcell_>ok thx i try
04:45<jm_>snogglethorpe: mkdosfs is not destructive operation in your opinion?
04:46<jm_>snogglethorpe: and modifying partitions?
04:46<gsimmons>sebd: Which Debian installation media are you using? Are you using an "etchnhalf" image?
04:46<snogglethorpe>you only need that if it's not already partitioned/mkfs'd, right?
04:46<jm_>yes, that's what is performed for flexible way
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04:47<sebd>gsimmons how can i knox this information ?
04:47<jm_>sure you can skip it if you know what you're doing, but then you wouldn't be asking this question, would you?
04:47<snogglethorpe>jm_: well I _think_ I know what I'm doing, but have never used this method, so I'm trying to see if I'm wrong or not
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04:48<sebd>gsimmons i download official debian etch 4.0r6 netinst version amd64 from debian site
04:48<gsimmons>sebd: Examine the .disk/info file on your installation medium. If it's etchnhalf, it will be stated as such.
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04:52<sebd>gsimmons: my info say "debian 4.0 r6 "Eth"...
04:52<sebd>oups "Etch"
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05:00<DanWard>hey guys, on the livecd/installer how would you change the text?
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05:02<sebd>gsimmons have you an idea ?
05:03<gsimmons>sebd: The bnx2 driver supports the BCM5708 and BCM5708S chipsets in Etch's 2.6.18 kernel, so your network controller should be operable. Was the bnx2 module loaded by debian-installer?
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05:04<sebd>can you refresh my memory ? What is the command to know this ?
05:05<DanWard>yo, guys, on the livecd/installer how would you change the text? eg welcome to the debian installer
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05:12<DanWard>hey whats the debian respitories?
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05:17<kineez>i have a problem using gcc/g++ on a fresh debian install
05:17<kineez>when i type gcc or g++ in xterm it says it doesn't exist
05:17<kineez>but when i type man gcc or man g++ i do get to read the manual
05:17<kineez>so wazzup with this ?
05:18<kineez>i have installed any affiliated package i could find googling/etc...
05:18<Txt-file>kineez: what do you want to do?
05:18<kineez>just compile/link c/c++ sources
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05:19<kineez>before this i was running a ubuntu distro and on that gcc/g++ worked just fine
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05:20<kineez>but there i had some problems with xlibs (.h files that weren't there)
05:20<blockowitsch>hi. i'm sure i'm just blind...i need a tool to simply encrypt a local file with a password, is there anything in debian?
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05:22<blockowitsch>yepp i'm blind, gpg is the answer
05:23<kineez>gpg ...
05:23<jm_>!b-e kineez
05:23<dpkg>kineez: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential.
05:24<kineez>i have gcc/g++ installed
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05:24<kineez>i did this with synaptic package manager
05:24<OdyX>gpg -c gpg -d
05:24*OdyX learns
05:25<jm_>apparently not, otherwise you'd have /usr/bin/gcc installed
05:25<jan>i have a small problem, i cant install my epson dx 4000. System find this printer and select but i cant print anything the option test print is unactive.
05:25<kineez>ok but i assume synaptic package manager is usefull for installing packages i have selected ?
05:25<jan>i have debian lenny
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05:25<jm_>yeah it should work, but most people prefer apt-get or aptitude
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05:29<kineez>ok can you explain how this apt-get or aptitude works ?
05:29<kineez>is there a simple command to install the gcc package ?
05:29<jm_>!apt howto
05:29<dpkg>from memory, apt-howto is at, or "aptitude install apt-howto-en" (sarge, etch), or obsolete, see BTS bug #493787 and ask me about <reference>.
05:29<jm_>yes, see above
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05:35<sebd>gsimmons i do modprobe -l and i see bnx2
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05:36<kineez>i'm aptitude , searched for gcc
05:36<kineez>selected gcc-4.1-base
05:36<kineez>how do i install ?
05:36<kineez>" in aptitude "
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05:50<jm_>aptitude install pkgname
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07:07<metalqga>how can I choose video drivers in lenny? I used to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or directly edit the xorg.conf but now I can't use the radeon instead of fglrx driver
07:07<jm_>sure you can
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07:08<nosklo>editing xorg.conf still works
07:08<metalqga>but the radeon driver fails to start
07:09<Txt-file>metalqga: I know that this work cause I had to change from fglrx to radeonhd
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07:15<metalqga>doesn't work
07:16<metalqga>looking at xorg log
07:16<jm_>!doesn't work
07:16<dpkg>Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message".
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07:21<jm_>privet, but please speak english here
07:21<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @
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07:28<metalqga>ok here is the original xorg.conf (when radeon driver was working) nowhere is "radeon" to find in it.
07:29<jm_>metalqga: that's relying on FB for graphics
07:29<jm_>Option "UseFBDev" "true"
07:30<metalqga>in section device?
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07:32<tuxcrafter>hi all, i have here a computer system and its sda1 fat32 usb drive is extreem slow 900KB/s i have the idea that the system does not use/support usb2 but is using usb full speed instead, how can i check this?
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07:33<tuxcrafter>lsmod | grep ehci
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07:33<tuxcrafter>there is no module ehci loaded
07:33<jm_>try loading it manually
07:34<tuxcrafter>modprobe ehci_hcd
07:34<tuxcrafter>loaded but not used
07:35<tuxcrafter>hmm uhci_hcd also says it is not used
07:35<jm_>what kind of motherboard is this?
07:37<jm_>lsusb -v will also report if it's full speed or not
07:37<jm_>lsusb -v will also report if it's full speed or not|less
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07:38<jm_>tuxcrafter: some laptop? try lsusb -v
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07:42<tuxcrafter>jm_: lsusb -v tells it is full speed, but on my normal fast system it tells the same
07:42<tuxcrafter>dong some more testing
07:42<tuxcrafter>adding good ext2 disk
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07:43<jm_>tuxcrafter: right, so that's not a problem then (full speed is usb 2.0)
07:43<tuxcrafter>that is true but you got full speed and high speed
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07:43<tuxcrafter>full speed = 12MB/s
07:44<tuxcrafter>highspeed = 480MB/s
07:44<tuxcrafter>but it probably says full speed to indicate it is capable of usb 2.0?
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07:45<jm_>it says full speed for ohci and uhci for me
07:46<snogglethorpe>btw, is there anyway to use these wacky "secure" usb sticks that apparently hide most of the device capacity except to a custom windows driver?
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07:48<jm_>I have never seen such a device, I only own regular fast thumb drives
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07:50<snogglethorpe>jm_: at work they have a bunch of them for public use
07:50<snogglethorpe>jm_: but afaict, they're unusable by anything except windows
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07:50<snogglethorpe>jm_: googling didn't seem to turn up any workarounds
07:51<jm_>snogglethorpe: so it's not a plain usb storage device?
07:52<snogglethorpe>jm_: i guess not... it has a very small (~1mb) partition that mounts as a RO device with a iso9660 filesystem
07:52<tuxcrafter>jm_: i am really getting a max of 1200KB/s out of the usb disk on that laptop system
07:52<snogglethorpe>and there are some windows programs on that filesystem that when run supposedly give you access to the rest of the drive
07:52<jm_>snogglethorpe: that's probably for the installer for windows software - did you check the size that kernel reports?
07:53<snogglethorpe>jm_: same
07:53<jm_>snogglethorpe: 1MB?
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07:53<snogglethorpe>it's like 944 kb or something
07:53<snogglethorpe>anyway very small, and read-only
07:53<jm_>interesting, probably best to avoid it
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07:53<jm_>tuxcrafter: even now that ehci module is loaded?
07:54<tuxcrafter>jm_: jups
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07:54<tuxcrafter>i will do some more testing but there is nothing strange about this system
07:54<tuxcrafter>i installed it like all my systems
07:54<tuxcrafter>going to google
07:54<jm_>tuxcrafter: did you try with a more recent kernel?
07:55<tuxcrafter>jm_: it is running a updated lenny and the laptop is some years old so sould be ok
07:55<jm_>tuxcrafter: so 2.6.26
07:55<tuxcrafter>686 version
07:56<jm_>tuxcrafter: maybe check what kernel says when you plug it in
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07:58<amphi>tuxcrafter: is it 'full speed' or 'high speed'?
07:58<tuxcrafter>00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05)
07:58<amphi>the device
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07:58<metalqga>the screen is turned off when I startx using radeon instead of fglrx in section device
07:59<jm_>metalqga: probably radeon driver does something weird then
07:59<metalqga>tried using my old backups with working "ati" drivers still the same
07:59<jm_>is your backup the config file that you pasted earlier?
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08:00<metalqga>now I'm using the xorg.conf after a aticonfig --initial, which is based on the one in the paste
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08:01<metalqga>maybe fglrx driver messed sth up a big tiem
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08:03<jm_>tuxcrafter: to debug such problems it's best to enable USB debugging in the kernel and post on LKML
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08:05<jm_>metalqga: why reinstall?
08:06<metalqga>well I wanna use radeon driver :P
08:06<jm_>does it support your card?
08:06<metalqga>i'm stuck with the buggy fglrx for now
08:06<metalqga>radeon 9600
08:06<jm_>it should, try playing with its options
08:07<jm_>also check your X logfile
08:08<jm_>also try it without FB if you have FB enabled now
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08:17<fjavier>hi all
08:17<fjavier>a question, which is the file that indicates the xsession manager to start ? i mean a file as defaul-display-manager file, but for session, i use fluxbox, but starts gnome
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08:18<jm_>fjavier: /etc/X11/default-display-manager
08:18<jm_>ohh sorry, I misunderstood
08:18<fjavier>no i mean the session-manager
08:18<jm_>fjavier: that's done via alternatives, but it also depends on how you start X
08:18<fjavier>my display manager is xdm (its a sandbox of xen)
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08:19<fjavier>ah, ok jm_ thanks i saw a link
08:19<jm_>update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
08:19<jm_>fluxbox would be x-display-manager instead
08:20<fjavier>yes, /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager, but i didn't saw an 'easy' link at /etc/X11 :( np, thanks again
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08:20<fjavier>yes it is
08:20<jm_>you can check /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup
08:20<fjavier>i will investigate the command you way, update-alternatives, to manage destination points
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08:21<fjavier>i read it, but no 'direct' link as you right waid
08:21<fjavier>i think will be good a link at X11/
08:21<fjavier>as for display manager
08:22<jm_>really? check where it's setting STARTUP variable, it's rather straight forward
08:23<fjavier>no direct, only $STARTUP, or similar
08:24<fjavier>it is 2005 version file ($id)
08:24<fjavier>but your solution to configure alternatives is great
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09:43<tuxcrafter>somebody that has any idea why a the linux kernel will flag a usb 2.0 chipset as usb 1.1
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09:44<lefundes>\j salvador
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09:44<avu>lefundes, it's /j, not \j :)
09:46<lefundes>sei la
09:47<lefundes>to tentando entrar em um canal kkk
09:47<lefundes>to testando o irc pelo linux
09:47<avu>lefundes, please speak english in here
09:47<lefundes>muito estranho
09:48<lefundes>I don't speak english!
09:49<lefundes>speak portugueses
09:49<lefundes>speak portuguese
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09:49<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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10:40<fooweak>My script foo is weak -- I have a script that generates a list of 969 rsync commands I'd like to run, preferably 4 at a time, starting the new one when one of the running one finishes. I would plough away with the scripting, but this seems like a general pattern in job control. So what is the "clever" way to do this? Use "at"?
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10:58<caleb>hi, someone can help me with multiping and gkrellmd??
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11:00<caleb>Does someone help me?? How to install multiping ??
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11:17<fooweak>caleb: multiping is a proprietary application? Have you tried their support?
11:18<caleb>It's a plugin for gkrellm but I don't know how to install it!!
11:19<caleb>cause it doesn't have configs files or somethings like that
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11:20<Knight_Lord>update-grub seems to be changing the #groot option. What can I do to avoid this?
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11:27<kineez>Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
11:27<kineez>whats the meaning of this ?
11:27<kineez>aptitude message
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11:29<Knight_Lord>kineez that another aptitude is running
11:29<Knight_Lord>kineez or you don't have permissions (not running as root)
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12:04<stuckey>Is anyone here familiar with the bittorrent client BitTyrant?
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12:11<Solver>stuckey: no but that's a cute name :)
12:12*Solver likes rtorrent - full featured cli client
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12:22<eyeris>I don't see /dev/shm in /etc/fstab. How does it get mounted?
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12:24<stuckey>Solver: I tried rTorrent but I didn't find it to have enough options for handling large numbers of torrents, e.g., I want to be able to load up 100 torrents and have my program download/seed them two at a time, ending them when their share ration are appropriate.
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12:30<fxiny>stuckey: rtorrent can do that
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12:32<stuckey>fxiny: Really? I read the documentation but I didn't see anything about this...
12:32<fxiny>stuckey: read .rtorrent.rc
12:32<eyeris>stuckey deluge can do that too
12:32<eyeris>same with azureus
12:33<fxiny>stuckey: most handy of all is : Close torrents when diskspace is low
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12:34<fooweak>eyeris: mountvirtfs does it - why do you care?
12:34<eyeris>fooweak Thanks. I found a setting in /etc/defaults. I need to up it in order to allocate more memory to my user mode linux guests.
12:35<fxiny> /dev/shm ? best place for some little nasty /tmp scripts
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12:35<Valtiel-ASD>how to create a user for using sftp/ssh only can read
12:36<Valtiel-ASD>not writing deliting
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12:37<eyeris>Valtiel-ASD I haven't done this myself, but I suppose you could set their login shell to /usr/bin/sftp and use apply a default:u:r ACL to their home directory
12:37<eyeris>That is totally untested though, so investigate it first :)
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12:39<fooweak>Valtiel-ASD: there is an scponly shell as well.... but I haven't used sftp
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12:40<stuckey>fxiny: Could I paste my .rTorrent.rc file? I'm not sure I've done this right:
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12:44<fxiny>stuckey: i'm reading , you'd better uncomment for "...diskspace is low" or you won't be able to login as user when your home is full
12:44<fxiny>stuckey: min and max user unset ?
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12:45<stuckey>fxiny: I'm not sure what I should set them to?
12:46<fxiny>stuckey: peers ? dunno min 2 max 100 or 200 ? and what about encryption ?
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12:49<stuckey>fxiny: Why should encryption be used?
12:49<fxiny>is not so important
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12:50<stuckey>Okay so set up max/min peers and I should be good to go?
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12:50<phorce1>stuckey: there may be more info on the wiki
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12:51<phorce1>stuckey: I don't try to seed only "x" torrents at a time but I do limit most to a ratio of 2 --- except for 2 sites I use
12:51<fxiny>stuckey: should be ok . you can get some badchunks nastiness , read > safe_sync = yes , and google for a verbose explanation
12:52<phorce1>stuckey: One of them ---> Ratio 46.085 --- Uploaded 1.16 TB ---- Downloaded 25.79 GB
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13:00<dean>I install Konversation and all I get are these servers.
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13:04<stuckey>fxiny: Was the synatx I used to move the torrents correct? (I made notes in that section)
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13:04<flower2>is it possible to use firefox/thunderbird instead of iceweasel/icedove?
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13:06<goodger>flower2: they precisely the same except for the name
13:06<flower2>goodger: ok but is it possible?
13:06<goodger>you can easily install a copy of firefox from mozilla
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13:06<flower2>not from the repo?
13:07<goodger>no, debian cannot distribute it with mozilla corporation trademarks
13:07<flower2>ok, thanks
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13:08<goodger>*eyes narrow*
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13:09<tuxcrafter>hi all, i am building media player system, with mpd, and sonata connects fine on localhost 6600 but gmpc and ario dont want to connect
13:09<tuxcrafter>even when i disconnect sonata from the server and closes it
13:09<tuxcrafter>there is no error in the error.log
13:09<tuxcrafter>it is on lenny
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13:13<tuxcrafter>i dont get it how come sonata works fine but the others wont connect
13:14<tuxcrafter>how can i debug it
13:16<stuckey>tuxcrafter: What exactly are you trying to do?
13:16<tuxcrafter>stuckey: i am trying to let user choice which client they can use sonata, ario or gmpc
13:16<stuckey>And what problem are you having in doing this exactly?
13:17<tuxcrafter>stuckey: gmpc and ario do not want to connect to the server
13:17<tuxcrafter>while sonata works fine
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13:18<tuxcrafter>max_connection is set to 50
13:18<stuckey>tuxcrafter: What sorts of programs are these? I'm not familiar with gmpc, ario or sonata.
13:18<tuxcrafter>apt-cache show gmpc
13:18<tuxcrafter>it are clients for the mpc music daemon server
13:19<fxiny>stuckey: no idea , i don't use that option
13:19<stuckey>fxiny: I've been messing with it but can't get it to work right
13:20<avtobiff>hi, i am using lenny and a twinshock ps2->usb adapter. the problem is that J19 and J1B is pressed all the time, somehow. this behaviour is with one pad, two pads. the behaviour is not present on another ps2->usb adaptor. thoughts?
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13:21<tuxcrafter>i found the issue bug 495687
13:22<tuxcrafter>stupd ipv6 bugs
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13:25<tuxcrafter>i am so affraid stable will become lenny with all these bugs
13:25<tuxcrafter>lenny becomes stable i mean :-p
13:26<tuxcrafter>disabled ipv6 and now gmpc and ario connect fine ...
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13:29<nosklo>avtobiff, broken adaptor?
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13:44<avtobiff>nosklo, a claw in your nose? the adaptor probably works. i calibrated it. thank you mad googling skills. sorry for the noise.
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13:45<nosklo>avtobiff, how do you know the adaptor is working?
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13:46<avtobiff>nosklo, because it works in winxp
13:46<avtobiff>nosklo, and now it works as i suspect
13:47<nosklo>avtobiff, I lost the solution, what was it?
13:47<avtobiff>nosklo, use jscal in the joystick package
13:47<avtobiff>to calibrate the joystick(s)
13:47<nosklo>oh I see
13:47<nosklo>didn't know you needed to calibrate buttons
13:48<avtobiff>everything has worked out-of-the-box earlier so i did not know that i had to calibrate it either. but it solved the problem
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13:53<luca__>dove trovo una debian live istallabile su hd o in alternativa un cd iso sid istallabile
13:53<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
13:54*EmleyMoor just got Dvorak keyboard working on dosbox
13:54<EmleyMoor>Any hints on how to achieve same in scummvm and freesci would be appreciated
13:54<dpkg>Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
13:55<avtobiff>EmleyMoor, how did you do it?
13:55<avtobiff>EmleyMoor, is it a the same keymap that you use in X?
13:55<EmleyMoor>avtobiff: Go to its keymapper and save, then edit the file and change the first field in the line to match the new key
13:56<EmleyMoor>avtobiff: Net of one minor error in te X one, yes
13:56<avtobiff>what is freesci?
13:56<EmleyMoor>Sierra game interpreter - Leisure Suit Larry 2 and 3 among others run in it
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14:02<dean>I have ubuntu and I was wondering how to get the latest TeX Live.
14:02<stew>dean: ask #ubuntu on
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14:04<avtobiff>why do actually people join here and ask about ubuntu stuff? that would be like asking general motors about ford stuff. they would probably say, go to ford and ask them.
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14:04<avtobiff>i mean. "i have downloaded 'lolsomething' and i join 'entirelydifferentrofl' why?"
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14:05<stew>avtobiff: becuase some of their irc clients are shipped configured to come here by default
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14:05<brlancer>Dell d620 w/ Intel 3945: over time, my wireless slows down; after a day, I notice it streaming movies. down/up of the wireless connection seems to fix it. This has happened w/ etch ipw and lenny iwl. Any ideas?
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14:05<avtobiff>stew, oh ok. thanks.
14:05<avtobiff>with that great answer i'll take a retreat. bye :)
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14:08<metalqga>the radeon driver turns off the monitor on startup (after startx), now I'm using fglrx. Any suggestions?
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14:11<jthomas>metalqga which Debian are you running? I am using fgrlx also, at home, because Radeon wasn't working (yet) for me either
14:12<jthomas>as am i
14:12<metalqga>I had no problems swithcing between fglrx and ati in Etch
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14:12<jthomas>but my radeon issues were different, it just wouldn't do my resolution
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14:19<jthomas>metalqga a bit of google searching suggests either of these: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (which I've used enough in the past, but MoDaX here said is no longer used, so not really sure); or try: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing "ati" to "radeon"
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14:20<metalqga>that's what I do.... and then the screen is not just blank, but off
14:20<jthomas>did the second method do anything?
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14:21<metalqga>found a bug with similar description.... let me read it
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14:22<stew>in lenny, neither 'ati' nor 'radeon' would show up in xorg.conf after a dpkg-reconfigure, and there should be no reason to change 'ati' to 'radeon' anyway, as ati should switch to the radeon driver automatically at runtime if a supported radeon is detected
14:23<metalqga>i use fglrx
14:23<metalqga>and change fglrx to radeon
14:24<metalqga>either method does the same result / changing "fglrx" to "radeon" or dpkg-reconfigure.....
14:24<fxiny>dpkg-reconfigure resest manual settings
14:24<fxiny>check xorg logs
14:25<fxiny>metalqga: what do you mean bu "switched off" ? is it just black ?
14:25<metalqga>yes, no backlight
14:26<metalqga>and the led is blinking as if turned off
14:26<fxiny>metalqga: is your screen detected ?
14:26<metalqga>well I can't tell ;)
14:26<stew>metalqga: is X using a resolution which your monitor cannot support?
14:26<fxiny>that's it
14:26<metalqga>it should be, radeon should have worked before I installed fglrx
14:26<stew>metalqga: what resolution is it using?
14:27<metalqga>when I use reso/refresh rate not supported there is a floating box that says so (in the monitor)
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14:27<stew>metalqga: can you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf into a pastebin?
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14:28<metalqga>let me try fxiny's way,.... well the xorg's log currently contains fglrx's entrys only
14:28<fxiny>metalqga: nahh you listen to stew mate
14:28<metalqga>so I will reboot to extract the xorg log with radeon driver
14:29<stew>i'd recommend trying dpkg-reconfigure as well (which would get you a minimalist xorg.conf)
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14:29<metalqga>but will radeon driver be enabled? I'm not used to the new X
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14:30<metalqga>the minimalist xorg.conf doesnt show which driver is used
14:30<stew>metalqga: probably fglrx if both are installed and both support your card. but i'm not sure. tias
14:30<metalqga>pff I will try
14:30<stew>metalqga: the log would tell you which driver is used
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14:30<fxiny>i usually run xrandr , then gft and last two proper stanzas to xorg.conf
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14:31<guiss>hi guys, I am trying to build sun jdk 6 update 11 on an etch server and I get "Java SE Development Kit 6u11". Any help?
14:31<guiss>sorry, I get "No matching plugin was found."
14:31<fxiny>on my crap box is the screen giving trouble not ati/radeon which is detected properly
14:32<metalqga>ok reboot, brb
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14:33<EmleyMoor>guiss: Are you on amd64?
14:33<guiss>EmleyMoor, no, I am on i686 and I installed via dpkg lenny's java-package
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14:33<EmleyMoor>OK - my thought does not apply
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14:40<metalqga>the log was still with fglrx, so I had to startx as root (in recovery mode) to renew the log
14:42<fxiny>metalqga: check the syntax at , wait a sec
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14:44<fxiny>metalqga: run xrands -q and pick what is avaiable : es 1024x768 84.9 85.0 , then run : gtf 1024 760 85 , that's you modeline use my paste as a template for your values
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14:44<fxiny>xrandr -q
14:44<stew>doesn't look like monitor detection ever happened
14:44<stew>metalqga: you could also try an xorg.conf generated by X -configure
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14:45<metalqga>this looks promising
14:46<fxiny>mind the uderline > 1024x768_85.00
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14:46<federaco78>hello, someone can help me with a xubuntu terminal problem ?
14:46<federaco78>am I in the right channel ?
14:46<metalqga>brb, i will have to stop x for x -configure
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14:47<craigevil-eee>federaco78: no you want #xubuntu or #ubuntu
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14:48<federaco78>there is no one in #xubuntu !!
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14:48<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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14:48<stew>federaco78: you want
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14:49<federaco78>ok thank you
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14:56<metalqga>no luck... can fglrx break it? there was some problems with the packages so I had to install in from the installer (I know that's stupid)
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14:57<metalqga>X -configure exited with error
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14:57<bola>hi, I have a laptop HP 6715s and cannot find a working network in the installation (wireless and network-cable) BCM4310 so BCM43xx should work but it doesnt, suggestions?
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14:59<metalqga>I guess I will have live with that and reinstall when lenny goes stable (then backup like fxiny :P)
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15:02<metalqga>thanks for the effort!
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15:09<def>Hello guys. I have a problem on Debian Lenny. My SATA DVD drive is not detected. (/dev/sr0). I have loaded all necessary modules: ahci, ata_piix , sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,libata. scsi_mod, cdrom. I will be very thankfull if somebody could help me :)
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15:10<def>sorry for my english, I'm little bit upset.
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15:14<def>I'm out of ideas
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15:27<dondelelcaro>def: which kernel are you running? (You shouldn't have to load any modules at all)
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15:28<def>dondelelcaro, I'm using default debian kernel . I think its 2.6.26
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15:29<def>I dont want to use default configuration . because its based on older driver
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15:29<def>and there is a limit udma2
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15:43<vinicius>my computer is taking ages to shutdown... im on sid
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15:47<sdljfhs0h0>can you read this?
15:47<StatusQuote>sdljfhs0h0, I can
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15:48*StatusQuote assumes everyone else can too
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15:49<StatusQuote>geesh, slow day, huh?
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15:50<StatusQuote>hello ry
15:50<ry60003333>Can anyone help me with a clean installation problem?
15:51<StatusQuote>ry60003333, if you explain the problem, maybe...
15:51<ry60003333>Ok, I get a message that "Automatic Print Configuration" failed, and I have no printer connected
15:51<ry60003333>It tried this about 5 times :P
15:52<ry60003333>Its 4.0 r6 :D
15:52<StatusQuote>this is during the installer?
15:52<ry60003333>I can get you any information you need
15:53<ranix>ry60003333: cameron diaz's phone number
15:53<StatusQuote>does it allow you to continue, or stop?
15:53<newsense>ry60003333, so this prevents the installer from going any further ?
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15:54<ry60003333>I can get back to the main installer menu, but the failed step was Select and install software, so something may haven't been installed.
15:54<newsense>ry60003333, have you tried disabling bios option if ya have any onboard ports you dont need
15:54<ry60003333>Its PowerPC
15:54<newsense>serial parallel firewire etc if not needed
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15:54*newsense crawl back into his hole
15:54<ry60003333>Its only got USB ports, ethernet, modem, its an iMac G3
15:55<angasule>anyone else having a broken VLC recently?
15:55<newsense>which installer are you using ?
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15:56<ry60003333>The netinstal CD image for powerpc, I burned the ISO
15:56<newsense>which version i mean
15:56<ry60003333>4.0 r6
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15:57<ndowens>hey all
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15:58<newsense>ry60003333, bug report has been filed
15:58<StatusQuote>hi ndowens
15:58<ry60003333>newsense: Thanks, any way around it for now?
15:58<ndowens>StatusQuote: how is it goin
15:59<newsense>i was googling it myself not as far as ive found
15:59<StatusQuote>okay, I just came to see what's up a few min. ago
15:59<newsense>im pretty bored and like to read so who knows
15:59<Xeross>i've just started using debian packages and i was wondering where the documentation of a package is located
15:59<newsense>thats the bug report i mentioned
15:59<ndowens>StatusQuote: ah, i just signed on, just looking at debian packages i may want
15:59<StatusQuote>ndowens, how are you?
16:00<newsense>Xeross, /usr/share/doc also try man and apropos for searching for man pages
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16:00<StatusQuote>ndowens, just signed on to internet connection, or this chat room?
16:00<ry60003333>Yea I've been Googled "debian printer configuration failed" and a lot of other stuff but haven't found this happening in the install :(
16:01<ndowens>StatusQuote: eh pretty much both
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16:01<newsense>ry60003333, im a google master :)
16:01<newsense>debian installer printer
16:01<newsense>thats what i used
16:01<StatusQuote>ndowens, find any interesting packages yet?
16:02<ndowens>StatusQuote: nah, not sure what i am looking for lol.
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16:04<StatusQuote>ndowens, a great way to look for packages in various categories is debtags
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16:04<ndowens>StatusQuote: never heard of that
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16:05<StatusQuote>it's a package that you can use with aptitude
16:05<ndowens>o. i am on Sidux, and they dont recommend aptitude on sid
16:05<vinicius>my computer is taking ages to shutdown... how can i find out what process is causing it?
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16:06<StatusQuote>I didn't know it wasn't
16:06<ndowens>StatusQuote: u on sidux?
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16:07<StatusQuote>no, I'm not
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16:07<StatusQuote>actually, I'm not even sure what Sidux is... tho I see it has something to do with sid
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16:08<ndowens>yep, it is sid but they patch it when there are bugs so a lil less likely to break, so far mine hasnt broke
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16:08<vinicius>ndowens, aybe its a good idea to change... my sid is breaking all the time
16:09<ndowens>mine isnt at all
16:09<ndowens>not that i have seen, everything iuse is running fine
16:09<StatusQuote>ndowens, hmm, nice. i might take a look at that.. i just found their webpage
16:09<ndowens>vinicius: what problems u having out of curiousity
16:09<vinicius>ndowens, its taking ages to shutdown, for example
16:10<ndowens>vinicius: mine starts up fast and shutdown fast, if u want to run sid, i say try sidux, though i havent had it long, but i update it everyday and no errors
16:10<ndowens>vinicius: also it is for i686 so it is fast
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16:11<ndowens>vinicius: they also recommend only using apt-get not aptitude or anything else, only apt-get
16:11<vinicius>ndowens, i use amd64
16:11<ndowens>i think they have that
16:11<vinicius>ndowens, and generaly, only aptget
16:11<ndowens>let me look
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16:11<stew>sidux makes all kinds of silly recommendataions about how you should and should not upgrade your system. i'd recommend ignoring them
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16:12<ndowens>vinicius: they have a amd64 iso
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16:12<ndowens>stew: eh i kinda want to be safe lol
16:12<vinicius>ndowens, can i do it from repos?
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16:12<vinicius>ndowens, instead of downloading an iso?
16:12<ndowens>vinicius: i don't know. ask pplm in #sidux i did a clean install
16:12<ndowens>i would recommend clean.
16:13<vinicius>ndowens, humn... nice
16:13<stew>ndowens: their recommendations do not come from trying to be safe, they come from ignorance
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16:13<ndowens>stew: why you say that?
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16:13<stew>ndowens: becuase i've read their recommendations and they make no sense
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16:14<stew>ndowens: for instance, recommending to never use aptitude makes no sense, and goes directly against debian's recommendation
16:14<vinicius>stew, thats true
16:14<stew>ndowens: they also recommend that you kill x before running apt-get, which is nonsense
16:14<ndowens>stew: it was something about tracking like changes, like package chages etc
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16:14<ndowens>stew: i never seen that, though there is a script they recommend to do distupgrade without x
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16:15<jelly>stew: killing x makes sense when upgrading kde for example
16:15<vinicius>well... i'd stay on sid if someone help me with this shutdown problem
16:15<ndowens>vinicius: heh you got my solution :-)
16:16<stew>jelly: they are saying that running apt-get upgrade with x running will damage your system BEYOND REPAIR
16:16<ndowens>but yea i like sidux, i like debian, i like having new packages so sidux is a nice mix for me
16:16<jelly>stew: it's entirely possible; I don't know what's in their own packaging, but they do.
16:16<jelly>stew: have you used sidux?
16:16<stew>certainly not
16:17<jelly>stew: how do you know what makes sense for that particular set of packages?
16:17<stew>if it is the case that using aptitude in sidux, or upgrading sidux could possibly damage a system beyond repair, that seems a great reason to stay the hell away from sidux completely
16:18<Xeross>hey guys i installed apache2.2-common but i cant find out how to start it
16:18<stew>Xeross: install the apache2 package and it should start automatically, or "/etc/init.d/apache2 start" to start it manually
16:18<craigevil>aptitude works just fine in sidux, just some of the devs dont like it
16:18<jelly>stew: they're likely meaning "we won't support your system if you do these things"; that is, they've only tested upgrade paths with apt-get, and aptitude definitely makes different decisions
16:18<ndowens>stew: from what they say apt-get can track changes like file names and etc
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16:19<Xeross>stew: any way to use apache2.2 ?
16:19<stew>Xeross: yes, apache2 is apache 2.2
16:19<stew>judd: versions apache2.2
16:19<judd>stew: apache2.2 --
16:19<stew>judd: versions apache2
16:19<judd>stew: apache2 -- etch: 2.2.3-4+etch6 sid: 2.2.9-10 lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny1 sid: 2.2.11-1
16:19<Xeross>ok so i can reove apache2.2-common ?
16:19<stew>Xeross: no, apache2 depends on the apache2.2-common package
16:20<stew>ndowens: apt-get isn't doing anything here that aptitude doesn't also do
16:20<jelly>stew: while it might uncover some mild ignorance on their part, we can't really know what's behind those decisions unless we see their workflows and custom packaging
16:20<Xeross>aptitude is better
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16:20<ndowens>stew: i like aptitude
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16:21<Xeross>aptitude keeps a list of dependencies that were downloaded
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16:21<Xeross>so if a dependency isnt needed anymore when removing something
16:21<Xeross>they get removed too
16:21<stew>Xeross: so does apt-get
16:21<craigevil>ndowens: you can use aptitude in sidux with no problems
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16:22<StatusQuote>Xeross, that's funny, I've noticed that sometimes when I remove a package with aptitude, some of the automatically installed packages don't get removed.
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16:22<Xeross>then waht's the difference
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16:22<newsense>i use debfoster for that guys
16:22<stew>StatusQuote: then they are still depended on by some other packages
16:22<craigevil>ndowens: although running sid isnt any harder than running sidux, the only thing you wont get is a shiny new kernel every other day
16:22<newsense>debfoster keeps a list also and removes depends too
16:23<stew>craigevil: according to sidux, aptitude is only appropriate for debian stable
16:23<ndowens>craigevil: eh, i think i've had problems with actual sid, but sidux i havent YET
16:23<StatusQuote>stew, no, I don't think so. for instance, I just tried installing mondo, it installed the amd64 kernel. I removed it immediately after, but the amd64 kernel remains
16:23<jelly>Xeross: did you mention which release you're using?
16:23<craigevil>a few of the devs have had major issues with aptitude, it doesnt play nice when you have held packages
16:24<stew>craigevil: what do you mean by "doesn't play nice"?
16:24<craigevil>i remember one time i had a kdelib on hold and aptitude wanted to remove most of kde while apt-get held back the packages that depended on the held package
16:24<stew>StatusQuote: show us the output of "aptitude search '~i~Dpackagename'" where 'packagename' is the name of the package you think it should have removed
16:24<craigevil>granted neither one can keep someone from doing something stupid if they just hit yes
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16:25<stew>craigevil: note that apt-get and aptitude have completely separate databases for things like 'what packages are on hold',
16:25<drasko>hi all. How to check wifi interface?
16:25<stew>craigevil: and one of the strengths of atptitude is that you probably were being offered many different possible ways to resolve the dependency problems, whereas apt-get will only offer one
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16:26<ndowens>drasko: to see if installed or what
16:26<StatusQuote>stew: no output
16:26<craigevil>doesnt 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections work for both apt and aptitude
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16:27<drasko>ndowens, I installed debian on Dell Inspiron 1525. Seems like it do not recognize wifi interface...
16:27<stew>StatusQuote: what does "aptitude show packagename | grep Auto" return for the package in question?
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16:27<ndowens>drasko: see if iwconfig lists it and also check dmesg
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16:27<StatusQuote>stew, it shows "Automatically installed: yes"
16:27<drasko>no wireless extensions
16:28<stew>StatusQuote: what does "aptitude why packagename" return?
16:28<drasko>no wifi interface at all
16:28<ndowens>drasko: what wireless card do ya have
16:28<drasko>came in the box
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16:28<stew>drasko: 'lspci' should be able to tell you
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16:28<StatusQuote>stew, it shows "Unknown command "why"" and usage info
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16:29<ndowens>drasko: you may also have to look up that computer model and see what hardware it has inside
16:29<bola>HP 6715s, cannot find ethernet during install, bmc43xx should be right but doesnt work, any help?
16:29<drasko>0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
16:29<stew>StatusQuote: oh, hmm, what version of debian is this?
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16:29<drasko>missing driver?
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16:29<drasko>or no kernel supprot?
16:29<StatusQuote>stew, etch plus backports for flashplayer-nonfree
16:30<newsense>firmware needed
16:30<stew>drasko: probably requires firmware
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16:30<newsense>which kernel is this ?
16:30<ndowens>drasko: hmm either need modules, or use ndiswrapper
16:30<newsense>uname -r
16:30<stew>ndowens: are you sure about that?
16:30<drasko>cannotfind .inf
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16:31<newsense>Dracie, ya need contrib in sources
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16:31<newsense>err drasco
16:31<ndowens>drasko: there is a site for a card like urs
16:31<newsense>drasko, than install b43-fwcutter
16:31<stew>drasko: /msg dpkg b43
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16:32<drasko> /msg dpkg b43
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16:32<newsense>yes a package
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16:32<newsense> < instructions there but the debian b43-fwcutter package can download and extract the firmware for you
16:33<ndowens>eh i am not much hellp lol
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16:33<adama>I get the error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." when trying to open the volume control. Fresh lenny, I belive the sound card is installed correctly.
16:33<newsense>i use it myself so i know all about it
16:34<ndowens>that's just how i would start looking to fix it
16:34<newsense>yeah thats how i originally learned how
16:34<StatusQuote>stew? i am using
16:34<stew>StatusQuote: what package is it?
16:35<stew>StatusQuote: i don't know
16:35<StatusQuote>stew, ok. thanks anyway :)
16:37<drasko>I do not get it... b43-fwcutter did some downloading and extracting... what now?
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16:38<drasko>how fo I know which one I need
16:39<drasko>and the files have extension .fw, not .inf
16:39<drasko>any ideas?
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16:39<newsense>drasko, did you install the b43-fwcutter package ?
16:39<newsense>it should have asked if you wanted it to install the firmware
16:40<newsense>it will put it in /lib/firmware
16:40<newsense>when you bring the interface up the firmware will get loaded
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16:41<drasko>how to bring interface up?
16:42<drasko>I do not even see it
16:42<drasko>there is no wlan0
16:42<newsense>ifup wlan0 for example
16:42<drasko>I have no wlan0
16:42<newsense>check /etc/network/interfaces for the name should be wlan0
16:43<drasko>just eth0 and lo
16:43<newsense>if not add a line like iface wlan0 inet dhcp
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16:43<newsense>if ya use dhcp that is
16:43<newsense>add an auto wlan0 too if you want it to be brought up with ifup -a
16:43<drasko>ok, let me try
16:44<newsense>allow-hotplug wlan0
16:44<newsense>iface wlan0 inet manual
16:44<newsense>thats what i have but if you use dhcp substitute that for manual
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16:46<drasko>wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
16:46<drasko>Bind socket to interface: No such device
16:46<drasko>Failed to bring up wlan0.
16:47<drasko>must restart networking
16:47<newsense>sorry was in nother chat
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16:48<stew>drasko: "modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe b43" to reload the driver, then run "dmesg | tail" to see if there are any firmware related errors
16:48<stew>drasko: if the firmware wasn't available when the driver was first loaded it needs to be reloaded (and restarting networking wouldn't do that)
16:49<newsense>i didnt have to do that
16:49<newsense>i added the device to networking and brouht it up and the firmware was loaded
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16:50<newsense>restarted networking
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16:50<stew>newsense: becuase you already had the firmware in the right place when you initally loaded the driver
16:51<newsense>i dont think so but whatever
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16:52<newsense>i also extracted the firmware i downloaded before installing debian and had b43-fwcutter.deb too
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16:52<newsense>probobly the same one the package downloads though im sure
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16:57<drasko>SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
16:57<drasko>wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
16:58<drasko>ifup wlan0 do not work
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17:00<drasko>any ideas?
17:00<newsense>drasco the module is loaded correct ?
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17:01<Blair>is there a way to get an Atheros AR5009 chip to work in debian?
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17:01<newsense>drasko, cat /proc/net/wireless
17:01<newsense>drasko, is there an interface listed ?
17:02<drasko>Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets | Missed | WE
17:02<drasko>face tus | link level noise | nwid crypt frag retry misc | beacon | 22
17:02<drasko>no interface listed
17:02<newsense>drasko, theres no interface than
17:02<newsense>module loaded ?
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17:02<newsense>lsmod |grep b43
17:03<newsense>!tell Blair about atheros
17:03<newsense>modprobe b43
17:03<drasko>ok, did this
17:03<drasko> cat /proc/net/wireless
17:03<newsense>is it loaded now ?
17:03<drasko>still gives no interface
17:04<drasko>module is loaded
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17:04<Blair>newsence: how do I ask the bot something?
17:04<newsense>ls /lib/firmware
17:04<newsense>try /msg dpkg blah
17:04<newsense>try /msg dpkg help to start
17:04<felipe>oi td bem galera
17:04<drasko>Marx:/etc/network# ls /lib/firmware
17:04<drasko>b43 b43legacy
17:05<felipe>quem ten msn???
17:05<newsense>drasko, try what stew suggested
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17:05<newsense>unload the module modprobe -r b43
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17:05<Blair>newsence: I have already installed madwifi and modprobed ath_pci, what next?
17:05<newsense>than modprobe b43 and run tdmesg |tail
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17:06<newsense>Blair, test it to see if it works :)
17:06<eris>hi hi, so heres my current conundrum.... i have a pptp server installed, and it is takeing connections and handing out the proper client ips, i can get to the inside ip of the server, but it doesnt seem to route to the rest of the inside subet of the server
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17:07<Blair>newsense: I still get nothing when I run iwconfig
17:07<drasko>[ 845.109902] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLR, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
17:07<drasko>[ 1032.285145] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLR, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
17:07<drasko>[ 1081.809396] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLR, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
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17:07<abaddon>can anyone tell me the ip address for ? i think you need to be connected to it to know
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17:08<teste>boys, i dont speak ingles
17:08<teste>i came from angola
17:08<stew>abaddon: that doesn't appear to exist according to dns. perhaps you should ask in #oftc instead
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17:09<abaddon>stew, someone connected to it might know from checking the status window.. they dont have direct DNS setup i guess to force you to use their load balancing
17:09<adama>what do I install to get mp3 and wma support
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17:10<newsense>libmp3lame0 ?
17:10<Ici>weiß einer wo xchat bei ubuntu liegt ?
17:10<newsense>drasko, how old is that paste ?
17:10<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or DE == Desktop Environment
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17:10<newsense>drasko, i cant access it
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17:11<Dracie>newsense, wut?
17:11<drasko>ah.. I though I put wrong address
17:12<stew>drasko: perhaps it isn't called wlan0. try "ifconfig -a" to see all known interfaces
17:12<drasko>stew, ifconfig -a shows just eth0 and lo
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17:12<drasko>no wlan at all
17:13<eris>i guess more directly what im asking is how to i specify specific routing for incoming pptp clients without disturbing the routing of the server
17:13<drasko>is it a kernel problem?
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17:14<newsense>drasko, im not exactly sure on that one
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17:15<Xeross>Guys apache2 doesnt defaultly block / from public
17:15<Xeross>is that safe
17:16<Xeross>because a default source installation has a <location / > and then deny from all
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17:18<Xeross>so is it safe ?
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17:20<adama> Xeross: / probably refers to the web root e.g. /var/www which is safe
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17:22<eris>umm, ok, if nobody cares or is capable of helping on this, could one of you possibly suggest somewhere else where i might find more info reguarding pptp client routing fixes and such?
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17:27<drasko>stew, if ifconfig -a shows no wlan interface can it be that kernel needs recompilation with some parameters enabled?
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17:27<stew>drasko: it means the correct driver hasn't yet been loaded, or hasn't bee nloaded successfully
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17:28<stew>drasko: it looked like b43 loaded successfully, perhaps you need b43_legacy
17:28<stew>drasko: what version of debian are you running?
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17:29<drasko>debian lenny
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17:29<newsense>drasko, should be regular b43xx
17:30<stew>drasko: in lenny, "lspci -k" would tell you which "Kernel modules" can be loaded for your card, check that, and see if it recommends b43 or b43_legacy
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17:31<drasko>there is just a line: 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
17:31<drasko>no suggestions
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17:31<drasko>like for other devices
17:31<newsense>stew, ill have to remember that one didnt know about ti
17:31<stew>drasko: cna you show us the VendorID:DeviceID ? (which you can get from lspci -n"
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17:31<stew>drasko: something like "8086:10de" or something
17:31<newsense>mine says b43-pci-bridge in use
17:32<newsense>for driver
17:32<drasko>0b:00.0 0280: 14e4:4315 (rev 01)
17:32<newsense>ssb for module
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17:32<drasko>how to use this info?
17:33<stew>grep "14e4.*4315" /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap
17:33<stew>which would list any modules which support your card
17:33<stew>which seems to be None
17:33<Fenix>Alguém ai do Brasil ?
17:33<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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17:34<drasko>is there any solution now? Or there is not driver existing for my card at all?
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17:37<drasko>stew, as I unserstand no kernel module can be loaded for my card?
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17:46<stew>drasko: not with your current kernel, you can perhaps find a newer version of the driver that supports your card that could be added to this kernel, or perhaps a newer version of the kernel (which you'd have to compile yourself) would support it
17:47<stew>drasko: i'm not familiar with this particular driver, however
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17:49<stew>drasko: your sucky, but probably workable solution is to use ndiswrapper
17:51<drasko>stew, for ndsiwrapper, I have to load broadcom b43 driver with .inf extension?
17:51<stew>i have no idea, i've never used it
17:53<Xeross>i;m trying to get an ftp server running but somehow inetd is using port 21 how can i stop it from using that
17:53<mgoetze>/etc/init.d/inetd stop
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17:54<Xeross>whats inetd for ?
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17:55<adama>Xeross: no you should install whatever is using that port, probably pureftpd
17:56<adama>try connecting to ftp://localhost it should tell you the program in the welcome message...
17:56<angasule>hmm, looks like something flash-related broke
17:56<mgoetze>no you should uninstall inetd... noone needs that anyway
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17:57<angasule>what does vlc use to decode flv, anyone knows? libswf broke also, hmm
17:59<Xeross>adama: That's the problem it connects but the auth fails
17:59<Xeross>password isnt wrong
17:59<Xeross>i need to see console output
17:59<Xeross>im using puretpd-mysql
17:59<adama>Xeross: try telnet localhost 21 in console
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18:00<Xeross>220---------- Welcome to Pure-FTPd [privsep] [TLS] ----------
18:00<Xeross>220-You are user number 1 of 50 allowed.
18:00<Xeross>220-Local time is now 00:00. Server port: 21.
18:00<Xeross>220-This is a private system - No anonymous login
18:00<Xeross>220-IPv6 connections are also welcome on this server.
18:00<Xeross>220 You will be disconnected after 15 minutes of inactivity.
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18:00<adama>yeah uninstall or stop pureftpd
18:01<adama>or is that what you are trying to install
18:01<adama>if so it's already running
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18:01<Xeross>i want ftp
18:01<adama>...that is ftp
18:01<mgoetze>you want ftp, but you have ftp. obviously, there is a problem here
18:02<adama>You should get rid of ftp and get ftp instead
18:02<Xeross>i already have the ftp i want
18:02<Xeross>but the authentication fails
18:02<Xeross>and it cant be stopped with /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd-mysql stop
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18:03<adama>anything in some logs?
18:03<Xeross>where can i find em
18:03<drasko>stew, I followed the instructions from
18:03<adama> in /var/log
18:03<Xeross>in /var/log/pureftpd is nothing
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18:04<drasko>stew, so I now I have built and installed wl.ko wireless module from Broadcom for my card
18:04<Xeross>well an empty transfer.log
18:04<drasko>stew, but the ifup wlan0 still not works. Any idea?
18:05<adama>Xeross: you probably need to configure the ftpd and mysql to work together, and setup users or whatever
18:05<adama>see the documentation
18:06<Xeross>i did that
18:06<Xeross>configured the mysql conf parameters
18:07<drasko>stew, instead eth1 appeared in ifconfig... How come?
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18:11<Guest856>hi new to irc can anyone see this?
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18:11<Xeross>Guest: Type /nick followed by a nickname
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18:14<Xeross>guys im having problems the authentication sais any username is correct
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18:14<Xeross>but password always fails
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18:17<Xeross>nah wasnt directed towards you
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18:19<Xeross>COMMAND:> [10-1-2009 0:18:58] USER walla
18:19<Xeross> [10-1-2009 0:19:06] 331 User walla OK. Password required
18:19<Xeross>gwtf user walla ok
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18:20<Xeross>table had the wrong name, Doh
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18:23<fabiomassimo>ciao come stai
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18:31<EmleyMoor>I want to file some "wist
18:32<EmleyMoor>hlist" bugs but reportbug dies due to an unsupported locale seting - what do I need to do?
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18:34<drasko>is there a gui for managing wireless network in gnome (like scanning the available networks, etc...) ?
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18:43<eris>hrmmz, well, i try asking again i think, i have pptpd running on etch server, can connect, it gives proper ips to clients, but i can olny access the server machine , cant get out to the rest of its subnet when connected, any ideas of where to start looking?
18:43<vinicius>if my laptop takes ages to shutdown, what can I do to find out why?
18:43<vinicius>it takes about 1min to start, is that an aceptable time?
18:44<craigevil-eee>1 min to get to desktop?
18:44<vinicius>craigevil, yes
18:45<craigevil-eee>thats probably about right, you can tweak a few things to get it faster
18:45<vinicius>craigevil-eee, no worries, im just worried about the shutdown time
18:45<vinicius>craigevil-eee, something like 10min
18:45*eris starts to wonder if there is a mute on them they dont know about.....
18:46<craigevil-eee>you can try looking at your logs, shutdown should be as fast if not faster than boot
18:46<craigevil-eee>vinicius: fr bot take a look at
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18:48<craigevil-eee>eris: you could try asking in #debian on usually more ppl there
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18:50<chealer>EmleyMoor: which unsupported locale setting?
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18:53<hollywoodb>How do I go about getting my Dell Inspiron's Fn key (control volume, etc) combos to work? I'm running Xfce under Lenny/testing.
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18:53<jtal604622>can anyone tell me how well the 64bit version works? i am looking to run x64, but am put off by flash etc..
18:53<EmleyMoor>chealer: I got round it for now - I will check further next time
18:54<EmleyMoor>jtal604622: I like it but it does depend on what packages you actually need to run
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18:55<craigevil-eee>jtal604622: use then just install flashplayer-mozilla or use gnash
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18:55<EmleyMoor>I would like to get BBC iPlayer working on mine
18:55<vinicius>craigevil-eee, my shutdown used to be fast, but since i did some update i have this problem
18:56<vinicius>craigevil-eee, thnx for the link, perhaps can you help me on this shutdown problem? =P
18:56<craigevil-eee>doesnt the new iplayer use adobe air
18:56<EmleyMoor>Yes, I think it does
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18:57<jtal604622>thanks, i will check that out
18:58<EmleyMoor>I'm glad I got dosbox to support Dvorak keyboard
18:58<craigevil-eee>vinicius: no clue, something is hanging you should be able find out what it is looking through your logs
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19:00<vinicius>craigevil-eee, what log, for example? i know about dmesg, but what about past sessions before turning on the computer?
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19:13<def>my debian(it isnt mentioned in dmesg output ) doesnt detect my sata dvd drive(/dev/sr0) even I have loaded all necessary modules . Any solution , please
19:15<def>2.6.26 kernel , its Matshita dvd drive in Thinkpad R60
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19:17<hollywoodb>def: is it perhaps listed as a different /dev node? does `wodim -scanbus` detect it?
19:18<def>nope , it doesnt detect
19:19<def>hollywoodb, by default debian was using old IDE drivers , so I tried to change it to scsi mode
19:20<def>modules I loaded: scsi_mod, sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,libata
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19:20<def> + ata_piix
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19:26<def>hollywoodb, any ideas ?
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19:29<hollywoodb>def: you are running a custom kernel?
19:29<def>nope , I'm using default kernel , I just blacklisted unnecessary modules and add some
19:30<valdyn>def: how do you know that you have loaded all necessary modules and that the drive is even sata?
19:31<valdyn>def: and how do you know that it is not dected?
19:31<def>valdyn, because it works under gentoo . I know it wasnt detected checking dmesg
19:32<drasko>hi all. dhcp cannot discovered on my wifi. any ideas?
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19:32<valdyn>def: because "it works" under gentoo you know that its sata? thats confusing
19:32<valdyn>def: what is the output of "ls /dev/sr*" ?
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19:33<def>valdyn, I used sata drivers . ls /dev/sr*
19:33<def>ls: cannot access /dev/sr*: No such file or directory
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19:33<hollywoodb>def: ah, I see. Well if I recall correctly, in kernel config there is option to use either new libata system or the old one, not both at once. I think to do what you are trying to do requires changes to kernel config. compare /boot/config-<vers> to your gentoo config
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19:35<valdyn>def: i would think that that cdrom is ata, but its listed as sr0 in gentoo?
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19:36<def>valdyn , yup , it was sr0
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19:37<valdyn>def: lsmod | grep cdrom
19:38<def>valdyn, lsmod | grep cdrom
19:38<def>cdrom 37928 2 pktcdvd,sr_mod
19:38<valdyn>def: but you loaded those modules manually?
19:39<def>valdyn, nope, I implemented it into intramfs
19:39<valdyn>def: what is that supposed to mean?
19:39<def>so it was loaded during boot
19:39<valdyn>def: en detail
19:39<valdyn>def: you added that to the modules file?
19:39<def>yes I do
19:40<valdyn>def: or did the initrd scripts load those modules automagically?
19:40<drasko>hi all. dhcp cannot discovered on my wifi. any ideas?
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19:40<valdyn>def: thats silly, youre making debugging hard like that. Theres no use in adding that to /etc/modules
19:40<def>valdyn, cat /etc/initramfs-tools/modules | grep cdrom
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19:41<valdyn>def: ls -l /dev/dvd* gives anything?
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19:42<def>valdyn , no result
19:42<def>it doest exist
19:42<valdyn>def: you dont have a hardware driver for your cdrom disk controller
19:42<drasko>hi all. dhcp cannot discovered on my wifi. any ideas?
19:43<valdyn>def: paste output of lsmod on a paste site and the output of lspci and the output of lspci -n
19:43<def>valdyn, ok , wait a sec
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19:44<valdyn>def: and verify that /dev/scd* do not exist
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19:45<def>valdyn /dev/sd* doesnt exits
19:45<valdyn>def: typo?
19:46<def>valdyn, lsmod
19:47<def>lspci -n
19:48<valdyn>!which driver
19:48<dpkg>somebody said driver locator was To work out what module you need to load for your pci card, try pasting lspci -n into
19:49<valdyn>def: what is the output for "modprobe piix" ?
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19:50<drasko>hi all. dhcp cannot discovered on my wifi. any ideas?
19:50<valdyn>def: theres your cdrom drive
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19:52<def>valdyn, nope , thats what I didnt want
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19:52<valdyn>def: I know, but thats the only driver matching according to modules.pcimap with your debian kernel
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19:54<valdyn>def: your piix driver needs to go away and if i understand this right ata_piix will be used automagically for your cdrom drive
19:54<valdyn>def: after you ran depmod -a
19:55<valdyn>def: what certainly does not just work is blacklisting one and expecting the other to load
19:56<valdyn>def: where loading automagically or loading manually does not make a difference
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19:56<def>hmm interesting
19:57<valdyn>def: look at modules.pcimap and you will see: i have your planned setup: "ata_piix 0x00008086 0x000027df 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x0"
19:59<def>hmm , valdyn but this way , my drive supports only udma2
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19:59<def>under gentoo I had I think udma4 or more
20:00<def>because when I was copying files , transfer rate was cca 10MB/s
20:00<valdyn>def: hda: UDMA/33 mode selected is what?
20:00<def>I'm comparing configs now , as hollywoodb mentioned
20:02<valdyn>def: oh, your config part is just CONFIG_PATA_OLDPIIX=m ( or the older whatever CONFIG_PIIX )
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20:03<def>both are CONFIG_PATA_OLDPIIX is not set
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20:04<valdyn>def: oops, what about MPIIX ?
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20:04<def>valdyn, but in debian conf I see something like CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=m
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20:05<valdyn>def: ah, old names
20:05<|1|||1|>Hi, no one home on debian-mentors, so I will try here =D
20:05<def>valdyn, yup , but same kernel
20:05<|1|||1|>I get this error with lintian on completing my package...
20:05<|1|||1|>E: hotwire: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/cron.d/hotwire
20:06<valdyn>def: no, i mean, i got my config options from my kernel, thats 2.6.28, appearantly they got renamed
20:06<|1|||1|>however, debian/hotwire.conffile contains an entry for this file...
20:06<|1|||1|>I also tried renaming debian/hotwire.conffile to debian/conffile - no change.
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20:07<|1|||1|>any ideas?
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20:08<drasko>hi all. dhcp cannot discovered on my wifi. any ideas?
20:08<def>valdyn, isnt piix CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX in config ?
20:09<valdyn>def: yes, i think so
20:09<ca10ssio> brazil
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20:09<def>valdyn because I didnt use that module in gentoo
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20:09<valdyn>def: sure
20:09<valdyn>def: you dont want to use it
20:09<valdyn>def: or are you saying that its =m in gentoo?
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20:11<def>valdyn, in gentoo I skip IDE setting
20:11<valdyn>def: so its not set in gentoo, as expected
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20:11<def>valdyn, # CONFIG_IDE is not set
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20:19<drasko>hi all. dhcp cannot discovered on my wifi. any ideas?
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20:22<simonrvn>start by explaining what you've done so far. and tell the channel, not me.
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20:26<def>valdyn, hollywoodb thanks for help guys
20:27<def>i'm going to try something to do with this problem
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20:27<vinicius>hey... i have a shutdown problem...
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20:27<vinicius>i prepared a pastebin explaining...
20:28<vinicius>thanks in advance for who's taking a look on this
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20:30<hollywoodb>vinicius: it looks to me like up until 22:29:06 vinicius shutdown[4083]: shutting down for system halt
20:31<hollywoodb>up until that point it kept trying to config via dhcp. after that point it took 11 seconds to shut down
20:31<hollywoodb>vinicius: why was dhclient going nuts? that's what you need to figure out methinks
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20:37<vinicius>hollywoodb, thanks a bunch
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20:37<vinicius>hollywoodb, but i dont know why my dhclient is pissing me off
20:37<vinicius>hollywoodb, i have to run it everytime i want to connect to the internet
20:38<vinicius>hollywoodb, actually, i know quite nothing about networking
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20:40<|1|||1|>figured it out, thanks.
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20:47<vinicius>well... is there a cool network manual for me to try to figure out all this networking problem
20:48<dpkg>Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>.
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20:51<mike>anyone got an explanation as to why i can only see myspace mobile in my browsers?
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20:53<goodger>hi mike
20:53<mike>hi goodger
20:53<goodger>no, I don't, sorry
20:54<goodger>on, what is the blue line?
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20:56<simonrvn>mike: your ua?
20:57<goodger>(user agent)
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20:57<simonrvn>goodger: hello
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20:57<goodger>hello simonrvn ^_^ I don't think we should rely upon people such as mike to know what UA stands for
20:58<mike>i just got opera
20:58<mike>im gonna see if itll change anything
20:58<mike>and yes i do
20:58<simonrvn>heh, yeh. sometimes i forget to speak in layperson-speak
20:58<simonrvn>ok :)
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20:58<mike>i told you i worked with windows lol
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20:59<chealer>goodger: the graph description tells
20:59<mike>im only 20 iq points bellow you goodger
20:59<goodger>chealer: this is true. *headdesk*
20:59<goodger>thank you
20:59<Diehardy>can anyone tell me where are the actual chatrooms where you just shoot the shit with other ppl?
20:59<chealer>!pal goodger
20:59*dpkg points at goodger and laughs hysterically
20:59<goodger>mike: did you get a score of 135 in the end, then?
21:00<goodger>Diehardy: "shoot the shit"?
21:00<dpkg>Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions.
21:00<Diehardy>TALK goodger
21:00<simonrvn>Diehardy: ^^^
21:00<Diehardy>thats what I meant
21:00<craigevil-eee>##defocus, ##politics, do a /list
21:01*goodger continues headdesking
21:01<Diehardy>can someone please tell me about the lively chatrooms?
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21:01<simonrvn>!comfort goodger
21:01<dpkg>There, there, goodger. It's OK. I'm here for you.
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21:01<goodger>thank you, simonrvn
21:01<goodger>!thank simonrvn
21:01<simonrvn>there are no chatrooms here
21:01<dpkg>pas de quoi, goodger
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21:01<Diehardy>WhY The fUDge NOT
21:01<southafrikanse>hello. Does anyone have experience on working in localhost with xampp?
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21:03<Diehardy>GODDAMN IT
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21:04<simonrvn>Diehardy: try /join #defocus
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21:05<Diehardy>Theres nothing there
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21:05<simonrvn>try the ones craigevil-eee suggested
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21:07<Diehardy>Its Ghost Town
21:08<simonrvn>try efnet
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21:08<Diehardy>There's no one anywhere, Simon
21:09<Diehardy>what's the deal
21:09<simonrvn>efnet is a network
21:09<Diehardy>I try to join but I am the only in a room
21:09<Diehardy>where do I get it?
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21:09<Diehardy>I downloaded this XChat thingy off the programs list on my eeepc
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21:15<phorce1>goodger: mike got lost and ended up on freenode after installing Opera
21:16<goodger>phorce1: interesting
21:16<simonrvn>*finally* left.. i thought he'd never go (Diehardy)
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21:17<simonrvn>there's a method to my madness ;)
21:18<goodger>"ignore it and it'll go away" is literally true of irritating prats like that
21:19<simonrvn>yes, generally. sometimes you gotta 'help' them along, they go away faster, hehe
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21:21*goodger waits for system load to decrease from 3 before running iplayer
21:22<goodger>" Your online banking service is unavailable between 12:00 am and 4:00 am." --- idiocy!
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21:24<newsense>i dont have to escape " or , if im grepping regular expressions do i ? the man page doesnt mention escaping those characters but ive read otherwise online
21:24<newsense>any know off hand
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21:59<sdljfhs0h0>hey. i don't want to mess around installing unneeded packages. an app is asking me where wx-config is installed. i haven't been able to locate it myself. maybe it's not installed. anyone know what package it is a part of?
22:00<dpkg>Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See
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22:01<sdljfhs0h0>yeah. apt returned like 30 hits and i'm not sure which one relates to my scenario
22:01<simonrvn>depends on what you want to do
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22:05<newsense>trying to match this Jan 9 20:23:33 devious firefox-bin: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "", got "" with an egrep pattern anyone ?
22:05<newsense>would like to match any app not just firefox and any host thats looked up
22:08<newsense>^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ [:alpha:]: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "[:alnum:]", got ""$
22:08<newsense>thats what i came up with but doesnt match it
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22:09<newsense>dont kow why i started with \w than went to use [:alnum:] coulda made it look cleaner
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22:20<ndowens>what firewall gui do you recommend, i installed firestarter but it isn't starting up
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22:22<ndowens>not that kind of gui :p
22:22<simonrvn>you asked what i'd recommend ;)
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22:23<simonrvn>we, but you get the idea
22:23<ndowens>heh, well i dont know how do firewalls heh
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22:23<simonrvn>there's a few better things to do that around
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23:18<pshlos_>hello. i'm trying to install ctorrent and btpd on my debian 4.0rc5. Is there any repository for these? what should i add in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
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