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---Logopened Mon Jan 19 00:00:16 2009
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00:11<brian5555>i am trying to configure a printer on linux
00:11<brian5555>my dillema is here:
00:11<brian5555>can anyone help? ty
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00:14<snogglethorpe>any good pointers for how to debug non-working audio support?
00:15<snogglethorpe>alsaconfig seems to work ok, but e.g. just typing "aplay" gives the error:
00:15<snogglethorpe>ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1240:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
00:15<snogglethorpe>aplay: main:564: audio open error: No such device
00:16<snogglethorpe>(higher levels, e.g., gnome also barf)
00:17<snogglethorpe>udev did create stuff in /dev/snd, ... e.g. /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c etc...
00:17<snogglethorpe>ah, i get the following kernel message..:
00:17<snogglethorpe> hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC262, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
00:17<snogglethorpe>(driver msgs are from "HDA Intel")
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00:19<brian5555>is there a command in debian to tell me processor information
00:20<brian5555>eg : is my processor a prescott?
00:20<Hydroxide>brian5555: cat /proc/cpuinfo
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01:25<Pepper>Hi! I read and found out that debian bind with proper allow-recursion and minimal-responses is also doing NS answer
01:26<Pepper>Is there a "debian" way to disable this?
01:26<Pepper>tried using views, but this requries a rewrite of the debian named.conf and zones.
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01:31<jm_>it's not uncommon to rewrite your config file on your own, after all, you can't prepare a template for all usage scenarios
01:32<Pepper>jm_: named.conf suggest not changing named.conf. thats why i'm asking.
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01:33<jm_>Pepper: yeah that's if you want Debian to manage it
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01:35<Pepper>jm_: I'm also not sure if this isn't a bug to reply ADDITIONAL if you request minimal and disable recursion for the client.
01:37<jm_>Pepper: I have no idea about that
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01:44<Student>how can i download flash player?
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01:45<jm_>get the package from d-m repository
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02:22<sep>Pepper, make named.conf.local iirc it should be included from the bottom of debian's named.conf
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02:22<Pepper>yes, but root zones are included in named.conf already. ...
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02:26<sep>Pepper, then you just have to edit it, and remember not to owerwrite your changes when bind is upgraded and it ask you if you want to replace the file
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02:26<sep>default is not to overwrite so should be fairly safe
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03:11<Student>how can i download flash player?
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03:11<Student>i need the name of exact package
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03:12<Student>jm_ i need to know the exact name of the package so i can write --> apt-get install packagenamehere
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03:13<dpkg>from memory, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see
03:13<jm_>Student: never heard of apt-cache search?
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03:13<Supaplex>!tell Student -about search
03:13<Supaplex>he has now. :P
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03:25<Student>jm_ umm ok , let me check
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03:29<mike_>ughh im back guys -.-
03:29<jm_>oh no
03:29<mike_>ive had the craziest night
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03:31<mike_>dude i got accidently pepper sprayed
03:31<mike_>and now i have the choice to launch a lwasuit haha
03:32<mike_>like wtf
03:32<dpkg>Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions.
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03:40<comradekingu>Or else it will happen again.
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03:51<Student>when i tried this --> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
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03:51<Student>it says " Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package....
03:51<Student>how can i fix this?
03:52<Stuckey>Student, apt-get update
03:52<Stuckey>apt-get upgrade
03:52<Student>i did that
03:53<jm_>Student: which version of debian are you using?
03:53<Stuckey>Run "apt-cache search flashplugin-nonfree"
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03:53<Stuckey>And tell me what you see.
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03:53<Student>and i get warning -> GPG error .......... Unknown error executing gpgv
03:53<Student>what is that suppose to mean?
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03:58<Student>kindly help regarding my issue, thanx
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03:59<jm_>kindly answer questions, kthx
04:00<Student>sorry? what questions
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04:04<Student>the same set of sources failed on one system
04:04<Student>and works fine on other system
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04:07<Stuckey>How can I pull up information on my network card?
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04:07<jm_>Stuckey: what information?
04:08<Stuckey>Like model number, etc. I know there's some sort of command for that but I've forgotten it.
04:08<Stuckey>agh! yeah, thanks
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04:09<Student>something like ifconfig eth0
04:10<Stuckey>Student what are you trying to do?
04:10<Stuckey>jm_, Are you any good with networking?
04:11<jm_>Stuckey: I know some stuff
04:11<Stuckey>Anything about PPPoE connections?
04:11<Student>Stuckey i am informing you about how to get info regarding your ethernet card
04:12<Stuckey>I'm having some trouble with mine, it's a connection through wpa-1 wireless used to facilitated a PPPoE connection. Problem is, I'm getting really low speeds compared to the other computer (windoze) on my network.
04:12<Stuckey>Any thoughts?
04:12<Stuckey>Student: I ment lspci
04:13<jm_>so it's wireless connection to ADSL modem or somesuch? and modem is in "bridge/pass through" mode?
04:14<Stuckey>jm_, If being in "bridge/pass through" mode would entail that the modem isn't acting as a router, then yes probably. I know for sure that it isn't acting as a router.
04:14<Stuckey>And yes, it's a wireless connection to ADSL.
04:14<jm_>Stuckey: right, so that it's not modem doing PPPoE
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04:16<jm_>Stuckey: are you sure it's not wireless not slowing you down? what kind of speeds are we talking about?
04:16<Stuckey>jm_, I ran pppoeconf, all the comptuers are running pppoe clients.
04:16<Stuckey>jm_, I'm getting like 500 down and 80 up while the others are getting 2500/3500 down and 1500 up
04:16<jm_>Stuckey: is that in KB/s?
04:17<Stuckey>This is a RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g card which is capable of much more than that.
04:17<Stuckey>That's in kb/s.
04:17<Stuckey>(as indicated by
04:18<jm_>Student: hmm pppoe is not very fast, but it shouldn't slow you down that much - this looks more like a wireless link issue to me - does your ADSL modem have some sort of admin/info access?
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04:18<Stuckey>jm_Yeah but unfortunatley I'm locked out of it today, I'm waiting on someone who supposedly has the password to telephone. (I'm a student, living together with other students)
04:19<mebus>Hallo ! With certain passwords I can't login throught GDM. Why is that ??
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04:19<Stuckey>mebus, probably because they're the wrong passwords...
04:20<jm_>Stuckey: hmm or if there are tools like ethtool/mii-diag that can show link info for wireless so you can check on your side
04:20<mebus>Stuckey: no, they work on the console.
04:20<Stuckey>OKay I'm going to check those out jm_
04:20<Stuckey>hmm.... mebus, can you give me more info?
04:20<jm_>mebus: try checking your logs
04:21<mebus>What info do you want ?
04:21<mebus>ok good idea
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04:22<mebus>could that be a problem with pam-mount ?
04:22<Stuckey>jm_, What do I do with this mii-diag? I just installed it...
04:23<jm_>Stuckey: well usage is "mii-diag interface" but I have no idea if wireless cards support this or ethtool
04:23<Stuckey>I'll give it a shot
04:23<Stuckey>Nope, it doesn't.
04:23<jm_>how about ethtool?
04:23<Stuckey>"Operation not supported"
04:23<Stuckey>I'm checking it now...
04:24<jm_>or maybe some tool from wireless-tools
04:25<Stuckey>jm_, ethtool is just for ethernet too
04:25<jm_>Stuckey: right, it was a stupid idea
04:26<Stuckey>No problem, I appreciate the effort.
04:26<jm_>Student: try the tools from wireless-tools
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04:27<jm_>right iwlist should show something
04:27<Stuckey>Yeah oh that does... moment.
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04:30<jm_>Stuckey: hmm it doesn't make it obvious what the current selected speed is
04:31<Stuckey>Let me give you iwconfig then
04:33<jm_>Stuckey: be careful pasting the info (i.e. encryption key) - it says Bit Rate=1 Mb/s, which sounds rather low, but then, I have no idea how this should look like for say 802 G links
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04:42<Stuckey>jm_, Yeah I think you're right, I think this may have to do with bit rate. Damn I hate wireless...
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04:43<Stuckey>What's it mean when apt says that packages are from an untrusted source (when it does it for every package)?
04:44<Supaplex>Stuckey: you might have to apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
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04:44<Supaplex>failing that, /msg dpkg listvals 47847374... or whatever the key is.
04:45<Stuckey>Supaplex, I don't know what you mean by key...
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04:46<Supaplex>!keys for apt
04:46<dpkg>[keys for apt] 'gpg --keyserver --recv-keys <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -', where <keyid> is the id apt is complaining about
04:46<Supaplex>!etch key
04:46<dpkg># apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-key update
04:47<Stuckey>Supaplex, and that's usually done for you during install?
04:47<Supaplex>I don't know what the catch is. I just know apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade seems to fix it on etch for new installs.
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04:49<Stuckey>Anyone know the best way to pull media off a dvd video for backup on a usb disk?
04:50<jm_>you want to copy DVD disc to an USB disk? try vobcopy
04:50<Stuckey>jm_, want to have it in a format that a windoze computer could easily play it.
04:52<jm_>Stuckey: hmm no idea if default windows software can play VOB-s from file, maybe try it, otherwise simply use dvdrip (which is much lengthier process)
04:52<jm_>there's always VLC or mplayer for Windows
04:52<Stuckey>Yeah i'd prefer mplayer... mencoder can pull media off a dvd though, right?
04:53<Stuckey>I'll try the mplayer channel...
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05:16<Stuckey>is mencoder in lenny???
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05:16<Stuckey>Or do I need to use dmm to install it?
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05:53<Stuckey>What's the best file format for a usb flash disk?
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06:04<mgoetze>Stuckey: you mean filesystem? well, depends what you want to do with it. possible options include ext2, jffs2 and vfat
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07:03<Stuckey>mgoetze, would I get more formatted space with either of those file systems? Which of those file systems are compatible with windows XP?
07:03<petemc>if you want compatability, vfat is the way to go
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07:04<Stuckey>petemc, do you get more formatted space with other formats?
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07:14<drmay>I'm going to buy a webcam for my debian/unstable: can you hint me a brand/model part with a good framerate?
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07:19<full-mode>Hello guys, on my X11 folder, i dont have a xorg.conf file. But i have various xor.conf.something files.
07:20<full-mode>i dont have a xorg.conf file, but it enters on graphic mode normally
07:21<full-mode>and i am confused, how it can work without a xorg.conf file.
07:21<jm_>it's auto-configuring
07:21<full-mode>and how can i create a xorg.conf file to this?
07:22<full-mode>the configuration is very good
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07:22<full-mode>but i need a xorg.conf file with this configuration
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07:24<jm_>so write one
07:24<full-mode>but i dont know how its working
07:25<Stuckey>How do I tell which version of debian I'm running?
07:25<Stuckey>from the command line
07:25<jm_>!debian version
07:25<dpkg>To determine which Debian suite you are running, run $ cat /etc/debian_version; If this outputs "lenny/sid", ask me about <testing/unstable>.
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07:25<Stuckey>it says lenny/sid
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07:26<Stuckey>I need to install pppoeconf on a system (this system says its running lenny/sid)
07:26<Stuckey>What's the best way to go about this?
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07:27<pc>Starting web server: lighttpd2009-01-19 12:22:12: (network.c.300) can't bind to port: 80 Address already in use
07:27<pc> failed!
07:27<jm_>Stuckey: install it with apt
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07:28<pc>some can help me change the door, or the apache or the lighttpd
07:28<Stuckey>jm_, should I burn an install dvd for it?
07:28<jm_>Stuckey: ohh you have no netowkring on it? yeah transfer it via CD or USB
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07:28<Stuckey>jm_, what about dependencies?
07:28<Stuckey>jm_, Do I just download pppoeconf from the website or?
07:29<jm_>Stuckey: apt-zip can help you
07:29<Stuckey>jm_, burning an install dvd might just be easier.
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07:30<gsimmons>full-mode: You can run "X -configure" to write out a basic configuration file/template, with the detected values.
07:30<jm_>pc: something is already using that port
07:31<pc>its the apache, but i dont know who change the door
07:31<jm_>what door?
07:31<pc>i want to install the rtorrent and wtorrent
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07:33<erKURITA>I lol'd, hard
07:33<jm_>what does rtorrent have to do with that?
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07:34<pc>i just was making the updates of debian and get this error
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07:35<pc>but my final goal its install the rtorent and wtorrent
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07:35<jm_>it's probably because you have two packages that are trying to listen on port 80 installed
07:36<pc>yes i have to change one of them
07:36<pc>but i dont who where and who i change it
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07:38<Stuckey>Does anyone know if everything I need to run pppoeconf is on the first debian install cd?
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07:38<erKURITA>Stuckey I do
07:39<erKURITA>and yes it does
07:39*Stuckey thanks erKURITA
07:40<Stuckey>Is it possible to make an internet installation over an internet connection that uses PPPoE?
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07:41<erKURITA>I've done it several times
07:41<erKURITA>tonytec ciao
07:42<erKURITA>Stuckey but make sure that once you're done with it
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07:42<erKURITA>set the pppoe and pppoeconf packages not to update
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07:43<erKURITA>Most of the times those packages updated on my desktop went haywire and I had a lot of problems trying to connect back to the internet
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07:43<Stuckey>erKURITA, how do I set this not to update?
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07:44<erKURITA>change the priority
07:44<erKURITA>to -1, I think it was
07:44<jm_>erKURITA: that can't be since apt first downloads it all and then starts installing it
07:45<erKURITA>jm_ it can be done, I saw it once when configuring apt-build
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07:46<jm_>erKURITA: well of course, but people using that should know more about apt then
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07:48<full-mode>alguem deu alguma ajuda? minha internet caiu
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07:49<full-mode>please, someone told something to help? my conection down 10 minutes ago
07:49<metalqga>what language was that?
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07:50<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
07:50<metalqga>thx erKURITA
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07:52<full-mode>no need, i know talking english
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07:52<full-mode>i have done a question about xorg.conf few minutes ago,
07:53<full-mode>but my conection was down, and i want the answers
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07:53<jm_> <gsimmons> full-mode: You can run "X -configure" to write out a basic configuration
07:53<jm_> file/template, with the detected values.
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07:55<full-mode>it will writes the configuration iam using now or a real basic configuration?
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07:56<full-mode>X -configure >>>>> Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.
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07:56<abrotman>it will create the file you ask it to
07:57<abrotman>but you must shut down X to do it
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07:58<full-mode>but it will create a Generic Xorg.conf or a xorg.conf for the configuration that is running??
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07:58<valdyn>full-mode: you already have the xorg.conf that is running, or it would not be running
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08:00<full-mode>it will write the xorg.conf thats running?
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08:00<abrotman>no, you have to shutdown X to do it
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08:04<full-mode>dont work, fatal error
08:05<full-mode>(with X powered off)
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08:11<abrotman>pc: ?
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08:12<pc>i want install rtorrent and wtorrent on the server with debian
08:12<pc>i am folow the guide
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08:12<pc>but i dont know if works
08:13<pc>i try severaltime before and i have to re-install the server
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08:13<abrotman>how about aptitude install rtorrent ?
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08:14<pc>this "apt-get install rtorrent"?
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08:16<stijn>(02:14:38 PM) glenn(l)steffi: ja da was daarvoor speciaal
08:16<stijn>(02:14:50 PM) glenn(l)steffi: leuk nee? twas wel nodig ^^
08:16<stijn>(02:15:03 PM) glenn(l)steffi: en ge moe stoppe met uwe laster, want thangt mn keelgat uit
08:16<stijn>(02:15:16 PM) glenn(l)steffi: en uw leden opt forum moogde ook in de hand houden met hun gezever da ik winst maak en het in mn eigen zak steek
08:16<stijn>(02:15:35 PM) glenn(l)steffi: want da ga em dan over diefstal en fraude :d en da is nie waar...
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08:19<path>how can I list all my svn 'imports' ?
08:19<erKURITA>eh ?
08:19<erKURITA>as in, the files you added?
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08:21<path>I want to list previous svn repositories erKURITA
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08:21<path>Before creating the TRAC environment, you must import your project to the SVN repository
08:22<path>svn import /path/to/project file:////home/svn/ctzv2 -m 'initial import'
08:23<maxb><path> Before creating the TRAC environment, you must import your project to the SVN repository <--- I don't think that is true
08:23<maxb>Create the repository, yes. Import anything into it, not necessarily.
08:23<erKURITA>maxb well, it would be pointless, unless you're starting a project from scratch
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08:24<maxb>or you could be about to import one
08:24<maxb>there's no ordering requirement between "set up trac" and "do imports"
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08:24<erKURITA>well actually, that's not his problem
08:25<erKURITA>he wants to list previous imports
08:25*path applying rtfm
08:25<erKURITA>I don't really know much about svn, but there's a way that could do it for me
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08:26<maxb>I don't understand what you mean by "list previous imports"
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08:26<erKURITA>an import basically is a short path to checking out a repository, exporting it into another repo and then commiting it
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08:27<PredaGR>hello people, where can I find some help in IRC for madwifi and Atheros chipsets?
08:27<erKURITA>what distro
08:27<path>erKURITA, so import is only valid if I have a previous /tree/
08:27<erKURITA>I think so
08:27<erKURITA>according to the help, yes
08:28<erKURITA>or not
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08:28<PredaGR>for the Debian Etch
08:28<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
08:28<erKURITA>well, do it yourself
08:28<erKURITA>svn help import
08:28<abrotman>PredaGR: /msg dpkg madwifi install
08:29<PredaGR>it was installed, it all worked nicely, yet it broke down by it self and need some help to identify the problem
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08:30<abrotman>PredaGR: rebooting doesn't fix it?
08:31<erKURITA>if everything were to be fixed automagically
08:31<erKURITA>with just rebooting
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08:31<erKURITA>There would be no technical support
08:31<abrotman>thanks for your awesome insight
08:32<erKURITA>you're welcome
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08:33<PredaGR>no, had an AR5005G chipset, 3m cable and a 9dB Antena, was using it to connect to a distant AP and was getting it with around ~10dB signal from noise floor, then suddenly one day all of the sudden the signal and noise both interlock to each other somehow and start dancing together, wavemon reports wrong dB, some APs have huge negative dB like -200 to -900dB
08:34<abrotman>so the card works and the antenna freaked out?
08:34<erKURITA>^ Im in ur network, steeling ur lolcats
08:34<PredaGR>and that happens with ALL the accesspoints
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08:34<abrotman>erKURITA: do you need help?
08:34<erKURITA>PredaGR any chance the antenna has been damaged?
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08:35<PredaGR>tried the internal one as well, but hmm havent check the cable, might the cable or the antena cause that sort of thing? should it not just lower the recieve sensitivity?
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08:37<erKURITA>PredaGR it might be shorting internally
08:37<PredaGR>thank you erKURITA, will check this out
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08:48<Rojko>hello can anybody help with ip tables on debian
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08:49<abrotman>you can ask here, or there is also #iptables on
08:50<Rojko>i need to block one IP (computer from my network) to establis connection to port 21
08:50<Rojko>i dont want that he opens any ftp server on internet
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08:51<abrotman>Rojko: /msg dpkg iptables
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08:52<sepski>exim happily creates the maildir when the users recive his first email. Can i somehow let exim make additional imap folders like .trash .sendt .draft ? something like /etc/skel for maildir's
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09:00<sepski>well if it's not possible with exim, would it be possible one the first login with courier-imap ?
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09:02<valdyn>sepski: whats the point?
09:02<valdyn>sepski: cant you do it with /etc/skel/ ?
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09:03<sepski>mail is not in ~ it's even on a separate server.
09:03<sepski>and the point is to have the folders ready prior to login from a 3rdparty web system, that i have no control over that expects them there
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09:08<tboonstra>I'm wondering why multipath would sometimes show partitions with <labelname>p[1-5] and other times just <labelname>[1-5] anybody wanna shine a light on this?
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09:09<valdyn>sepski: script it to whatever is adduser
09:09<valdyn>sepski: *somehow* mail accounts need to be created...
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09:09<sepski>they are created when exim delivers to them. but i want additional folders
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09:10<valdyn>sepski: im sure you can add whatever script in exim
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09:13<sepski>well i was hoping i could replace create_directory in exim with a script but ... how..
09:15<valdyn>sepski: how are you letting exim create user accounts at first mail delivery?
09:15<sepski>valdyn, exim have a argument to it's transport called "create_directory"
09:15<valdyn>sepski: but im talking about user account, not creating directory
09:16<sepski>users are in ldap on a totaly different server
09:16<sepski>i could perhaps do some ssh with keys to the mailserver to run maildirmake... but i had hoped to have more intuitive and less hackish
09:17<sepski>or script a imap login, that made 3 folders. but again very hackish
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09:19<sepski>well i have to logoff from here, thanks for listening, if you got an idea talk to sep :)
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09:24<Guest1211>i need help with the installation of debian 4.0 amd64 in my laptop.
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09:24<Guest1211>it doesn't known my ethernet interface :(
09:25<metheocrite>Hi. I'm setting up a pxe/tftp server to install etch-and-half on some clients. I'm using this page : . It mentions the mac address. Isn't there a way to do a generic pxe, without specifying the mac address ?
09:25<abrotman>Guest1211: what network card do you have?
09:26<metheocrite>I'd like to let anyone use the debmiror/pxe server, but they shouldn't have shell access to the server.
09:26<Guest1211>i have
09:27<Guest1211>nvidia Corporation MCP67 ethernet (rev a2)
09:27<dpkg>Support for the nVidia MCP67 Ethernet controller was introduced in the forcedeth driver at kernel 2.6.20. To provide support within Etch at installation time, use an etchnhalf installer (ask me about <etchnhalf>).
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09:29<Guest1211>hey dpkg... do you speak spanish?
09:29<abrotman>Guest1211: it's a bot
09:29<abrotman>Guest1211: so you have no networking at all ?
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09:29<Guest1211>people i'm sorry, but my english is bad because i'm from argentina
09:30<abrotman>oh grrr
09:30<Guest1211>what is <etchnhalf>?
09:30<abrotman>you can speak spanish in #debian-es
09:30<abrotman>Guest1211: moment
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09:30<Guest1211>but i understand..
09:30<abrotman>Guest1211: amd64 or i386?
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09:30<Guest1211>with netinst
09:30<Guest1211>ok thanks!
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09:31<craigevil>if its a laptop wouldnt it just be easier to install lenny? its more or less stable anyway
09:31<abrotman>he just asked how to get his networking going
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09:39<dpalacio>what is the program that creates build-depends packages? or meta-packages with only dependencies
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09:39<abrotman>it's a metapackage
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09:40<dpalacio>abrotman: what do you mean?
09:40<abrotman>it's a metapackage, someone decides what goes in it
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09:50<Kernel_Core>hi alla
09:50<Guest1211>lenny is stable?
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09:51<Rakis>Guest1189, no, it's testing
09:51<metheocrite>frozen testing.
09:53<Kernel_Core>I have a M3N78 mainboard , with MCP78 chipset , ( Geforce 8200) when I want to install debian on it ( AMD64 40r06) it cannot find my "SATA" Controller
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09:53<Kernel_Core>and my Ethernet Card !
09:53<Kernel_Core>anybody has a solution for this ?!
09:53<FilipeMaia>Is there any debian kernel with ib_sdp?
09:54<Kernel_Core>because I read somewhere , FC9 supports this mainboard , and I don't want to move to FC !
09:54<Rakis>Kernel_Core, try with netinst iso of lenny
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09:54<petemc>or etchnhalf
09:55<Kernel_Core>Rakis: which kernel version does it use ?!
09:55<Rakis>2.6.26 I belive
09:56<Kernel_Core>so 2.6.26 should be OKey !
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09:56<Kernel_Core>but I am wondering where do I download the driver , and during installation , I use the driver Disk !
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09:57<Rakis>petemc, has told you another fix, maybe it would more interesting
09:57<petemc>only if you want to use etch
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10:00<Kernel_Core>Rakis: so lenny_di_rc1 is my solution ?!
10:01<Rakis>Kernel_Core, lenny it's in frozen phase, it isn't stable yet. If you want to use stable version you can use etch'n'half image.
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10:02<Rakis>I don't know your hardware but etch kernel it's old, sometimes don't recognize new hardware
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10:06<dell>someone here to help me installing my wlan on debian-lenny?
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10:07<dell>i got Realtek Wlan card with pciid: 10ec:8199
10:07<dell>and i don't know which drivers to use
10:07<dell>and how to install it properly
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10:08<dpkg>[rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux wireless drivers, forked from the rtl8180-sa2400 project. Supports RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline kernel from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. RTL8187SE not supported, ask about <rtl8187se>.
10:08<gsimmons>dell: Follow the wiki link above, regarding RTL8187SE.
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10:09<dell>ok i try it
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10:12<themill>Didn't we get that far last night?
10:12<gsimmons>themill: Obviously not. :)
10:16<dell>no not that far :D
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10:16<dell>i can't install debhelper
10:16<dell>aptitude install debhelper gives me:
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10:17<dell>no canditat version found for "debhelper"
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10:21<dell>when i try to install it manually it says, that html2text is missing
10:21<dell>but html2text is only for etch
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10:24<gsimmons>dell: Uh, no, 'html2text' is in Lenny, which would have been brought in as a dependency of 'debhelper'. Is your sources.list file configured to access a Debian mirror? Do you even have an alternate network interface available/configured for this purpose?
10:24<adrien>hi boys
10:25<adrien>are Y french ?
10:25<adrien>sorry i'm not in the good channel
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10:28<dell>ok now it works but
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10:28<dell>i cant access wlan0 in the gnome network manager
10:28<dell>i can see it in iwconfig
10:29<dell>but not in the network manager
10:29<gsimmons>dell: It works? Don't expect miracles: the driver is of an experimental nature. I'd suggest using iwconfig and wpa_supplicant instead of N-M.
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10:48<orochi>hello everyone :> does anyone know offhand if it's possible to use the blackberry bold 9000 with debian lenny (e.g. synchronization, transferring files on and off, etc.)
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10:49<tosi>you can install new OSs on blackberrys?
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10:51<freedomuser>desde argentina, hola a todos
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10:58<metheocrite>So I guess there is no way to omit the hw mac address while using pxe ?
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11:00<abrotman>you could also ask the debian-user mailing list
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11:15<Supaplex>where do I set innodb_buffer_pool_size for mysql? does the file name in /etc/mysql/conf.d/ matter? Eg echo innodb_buffer_pool_size = 400M > innodb but show variables shows it's unchanged after a restart.
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11:17<alien__234>Hi ,How do I add user to a particular group ?
11:17<petemc>adduser username groupname
11:18<alien__234>would it change the group affiliations if the user is already present
11:18<weasel>you have to logout and login again.
11:18<alien__234>ok thanks
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11:21<dell>ok finally got it to work
11:22<dell>with wicd network manager
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11:37<pc>what this means "mv .* .. "
11:37<pc>i am having only a error when i uses this code
11:37<SlimeyPete>it means "move all the files in the current directory into the parent directory"
11:38<pc>ok thanks :)
11:38<pc>ca i pm
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11:39<adama>it will also try to move folders
11:39<pc>can you give a look on a guide
11:39*themill suggests that SlimeyPete tests that out
11:39<pc>this one
11:40<pc>below this: You're almost done now. The only thing left to install is wtorrent:
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11:41<pc>i make all the step but when i do this one mv .* ..
11:41<pc>dont work
11:41<adama>what is the error?
11:42<pc>mv: cannot move `.' to `../.': Device or resource busy
11:42<pc>mv: cannot move `..' to `../..': Device or resource busy
11:42<adama>do this instead:
11:42<adama>cd /var/www ; mv wtorrent/* .
11:42<pc>ok thanks, i gone try
11:43<adama>"move everything in the wtorrent directory to the current directory"
11:44<adama>also, unless you are actually going to be contributing to the wtorrent codebase, you should use "svn export" instead of "svn co"
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11:44<adama>...but too late for that now I imagine
11:44<adama>no big deal, you just have a lot of unnecessary .svn folders and whatnot
11:44<themill>someone needs to learn about the "dir" argument to svn... svn co url /var/www
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11:45<nizar>hi, i have a question concerning c-shell.. how can i add notes to a script in cshell ?
11:45<pc>could you give a example
11:45<nizar>for example, in C you can add notes using // or /* */
11:45<adama>nizar: #
11:45<nizar>oh thanks
11:46<nizar>yalla bye ;p
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11:46<nizar>and thanks for the help
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11:46<adama>pc: the command they should be giving is "svn export svn:// /var/www"
11:46<themill>pc: the guy writing that guide should have used "svn export svn:// /var/www" and then the next 5 commands wouldn't be needed and you wouldn't ave a pile of .svn dirs around.
11:47<pc>very thanks i was stuck with this error ;)
11:47<themill>although using /var/www would cause svn to spit as the dir would exist and probably be non-empty
11:48<adama>pc: he could also have just left it after the first two commands, and your URL for the last 2 links at the bottom of that page would be http://your.server.ip.addr/wtorrent/install.php
11:48<adama>not a big deal
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11:49<pc> svn export svn:// /var/www
11:50<pc>svn: Destination directory exists; please remove the directory or use --force to overwrite
11:50<pc>svn: '/var/www' already exists
11:50<adama>pc: use the --force option
11:50<pc>where i write
11:50<pc>on the end
11:50<adama>right after svn
11:50<adama>or at the end might work too
11:50<pc>done :)
11:51<adama>now browse to the thing
11:51<adama>oh start lighttpd first
11:51<adama>oh wait
11:51<adama>do the last three bullets of the svn co part
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11:52<adama>cd /var/www; touch ./db/database.db
11:52<adama>then go from there
11:54<pc>Fatal error: Smarty error: unable to write to $compile_dir '/var/www/wtorrent/tpl_c'. Be sure $compile_dir is writable by the web server user. in /var/www/wtorrent/lib/smarty/Smarty.class.php on line 1092
11:54<pc>i have to do someting, but dont know what
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12:07<pc>Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[HY000]: General error: 1 no such table: tor_passwd' in /var/www/wtorrent/lib/cls/PDOe.cls.php:66 Stack trace: #0 /var/www/wtorrent/lib/cls/PDOe.cls.php(66): PDO->prepare('SELECT id, admi...') #1 /var/www/wtorrent/lib/cls/PDOe.cls.php(103): PDOe->prepareAndBind('SELECT id, admi...', Array) #2 /var/www/wtorrent/cls/
12:07<pc>p(104): PDOe->query('SELECT id, admi...', 'nuno', '202cb962ac59075...') #3 /var/www/wtorrent/cls/rtorrent.cls.php(58): rtorrent->login('nuno', '123') #4 /var/www/wtorrent/lib/cls/Web.cls.php(106): rtorrent->__construct() #5 /var/www/wtorrent/index.php(31): Web::getClass('ListT') #6 {main} thrown in /var/www/wtorrent/lib/cls/PDOe.cls.php on line 66
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12:09<abrotman>pc: maybe you should ask the poeple that wrote the software
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12:09<pc>ok, thanks
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12:11<adama>pc: yeah since they got you to install the "bleeding edge" i.e. the last changes anyone has made, it's a good chance something is broken
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12:13<adama>pc: a good alternative is torrentflux, you can install it with apt-get :)
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12:14<pc>dont liked, i used for 2 month and i have lots of bugs, and dont have rss feeds
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12:21<fxiny>i'm looking for enouf !
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12:22<adama>!seen enouf
12:22<dpkg>enouf is currently on #debian (4d 17h 33m 43s). Has said a total of 93 messages. Is idling for 1d 20h 47m 11s, last said: 'themill: nm, i ran df on a /mnt/point not yet mounted -- duh'.
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12:24<themill>huh? oh.
12:24*themill notes to randomly highlight adama from time to time :P
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12:25<Loutar_X>algum brasileiro?
12:26<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
12:26<adama>wasn't me! It was enouf
12:27<Loutar_X>when I try to run the "alsamix" he returns the following error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
12:27<fxiny>adama: that was me asking in a wrong windows , i bet enouf will cry reading it :P
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12:28<fxiny>btw : why is java6 installing avahi-daemon in lenny ? i removed it immediately
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12:30<fxiny>i can understand a desktop env installing daemons but not java
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12:31<abrotman>fxiny: aptitude why
12:31<fxiny>abrotman: apt-get as well
12:31<abrotman>then i guess you know how
12:31<fxiny>i've done it
12:31<fxiny>no porbs
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12:32<fxiny>i was so happy seeing every media apps works just fine from dmm . i have flash working too , xmms2 perfect but that avahi . hmmmm
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12:32<themill>fxiny: I think abrotman meant "aptitude why sun-java6-plugin avahi-daemon"
12:32<fxiny>it removes libnss-mdns
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12:33<fxiny>themill: abrotman knows i double check apt-get and aptitude , apt-get installs avahi-daemon . no blaming aptitude which is very good
12:33<abrotman>themill: don't think he got it that time either
12:34<themill>fxiny: it's a command. run it and see
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12:34<fxiny>is command ? wt4x !
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12:34<fxiny>now aptitude speaks "why" ?
12:34<fxiny>i can't belive it !
12:35<abrotman>$ aptitude why iceweasel
12:35<abrotman>i iceweasel-gnome-support Depends iceweasel
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12:35<fxiny>lemme boot my lenny
12:35<themill>that's what we've been trying to tell you... there's also why not to investigate clashes
12:36<fxiny>themill: you talking "why" wt4x ! lemme see it
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12:37<fxiny>i don't care about the answer , i wanna run this fine command
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12:40<fxiny>themill: depends ... recommends .... nice command indeed but nothing new in the answer
12:40<fxiny>i've removed it
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12:41<themill>fxiny: indeed. But when you get to a chain of a dozen or so deps, it becomes painful to step through each package and looking at the depends (or recommends), so this is a much faster and nicer way of doing that.
12:41<themill>fxiny: this is for the *next* time you need to ask this question :)
12:42<fxiny>themill: that's a very nice command
12:42<fxiny>i mean . is the kind of interaction i love
12:42<fxiny>but a daemon listening because of java . hmmm
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12:44<fxiny>and UDP
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12:44<fxiny>anyway , i'm qyite happy so far , all media are ++
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12:45<pc>to finish my problem i have to install this " php with PDO "
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12:46<pc>i dont what is?
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12:46<fxiny>themill: the thing is , i know the mantainer knows why , so when removing it i was expecting something going bad . all seems fine without avahi-daemon
12:46<themill>pc: "apt-cache search php pdo"
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12:47<themill>fxiny: yeah, I can't see why the jre thinks mdns is a good idea,
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12:48<pc>axyl-doc - The Axyl documentation
12:48<pc>php-db - PHP PEAR Database Abstraction Layer
12:48<pc>php5-mysql - MySQL module for php5
12:48<pc>php5-odbc - ODBC module for php5
12:48<pc>php5-pgsql - PostgreSQL module for php5
12:48<pc>php5-sqlite - SQLite module for php5
12:48<pc>phpdoc - Transition package for PHP4 and PHP5 documentation
12:48<themill>!stop pasting pc
12:48<dpkg>pc: We don't defecate on your keyboard. Please don't paste in our channel. /msg dpkg paste
12:48<pc>ita ll ok, right
12:49<themill>pc: php-db is, *I think*, the package you want.
12:50<themill>or possibly php5-mysql (if that's the db you're using)
12:50<fxiny>themill: jre ? i checked jre and flash , flash from dmm is the latest version , obviously java is not , but we know as asf sang : "*sun* rise every morning , bringing down the s* to the ground" ;)
12:51<fxiny>i have sun installed on this box , i know how
12:51*themill looks bemusedly at fxiny
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12:52<fxiny>themill: old goff songs ;)
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13:08<petern>hmm, disabling metacity's compositing manager doesn't work too well :/
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13:15<pc>who i install this kinda file wtorrent.db.patch
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13:16<Supaplex>you do, if you want.
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13:17<pc>i want install but dunno what to type
13:17<abrotman>pc: go ask the people that wrote it
13:18<pc>ok guys, thanks for the help
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13:29<brian5555>running lsmod has shown that 8139cp and 8139too are running together. How do I disable one?
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13:40<hdon>how can i ask APT if a package is installed?
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13:41<abrotman>hdon: dpkg -l <pkg>
13:41<hdon>abrotman: thanks
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13:41<abrotman>or apt-cache policy <pkg>
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13:44<faucon-celeste>Hi :)
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13:44<faucon-celeste>Are you speck in french ?
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13:45<Stuckey>Does anyone know how I can get a driver for the ethernet card on my ASUS P5Q? The driver isn't in Lenny
13:45<abrotman>what driver does it need?
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13:45<Stuckey>abrotman: Not sure, how can I find out?
13:45<abrotman>or what device isit?
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13:45<abrotman>Stuckey: put `lspci -nn` in a pastebin
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13:47<chealer>Stuckey: which Ethernet card?
13:47<Stuckey>It's the one on the ASUS P5Q
13:47<abrotman>Stuckey: i only see a wifi card
13:48<Stuckey>abrotman, might be because I don't have a driver for it?
13:48<chealer>Stuckey: which Ethernet card is on your ASUS P5Q?
13:48<abrotman>no, the lspci isn't affected by drivers
13:48<Stuckey>chealer, How can I find this information?
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13:49<chealer>Stuckey: the motherboard's specifications should mention that.
13:49<Lemonzest>on the P5Q i think its some Atheros crap, i deiced agenst asus for that very reason
13:49<brian5555> my hostname is whitepc however when i try to ssh to my "whitepc" i get an error... what could be problem?
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13:49<abrotman>it's not in lspci
13:49<Stuckey>chealer, I'll look on the ASUS website; moment.
13:49<weasel>unless the same chipset does wifi and ethernet
13:50<abrotman>that would be awful!
13:50<chealer>Lemonzest: Atheros doesn't do Ethernet chips AFAIK
13:50<abrotman>02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI [1814:0301]
13:50<weasel>abrotman: you know, I wouldn't put it past those people
13:50<Stuckey>abrotman, that's my wireless card.
13:50<Stuckey>weasel, past ASUS you mean?
13:50<abrotman>Stuckey: i'm aware of that .. also the only Network controller in lspci
13:50<abrotman>unless it's .. usb ?
13:50<Lemonzest>chealer: they are used on some really low end asus boards
13:51<Lemonzest>maybe they changed
13:51<chealer>Lemonzest: oh. right
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13:53<Stuckey>asus has the worst website ive ever visited.
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13:54<Stuckey>The P5Q Pro isn't even listed on their website.
13:55<abrotman>but his isn't showing up
13:55<hdon> is the worst website i've ever visited
13:55<hdon>Stuckey: i think asus' website is much more tasteful
13:55<abrotman>hdon: wrong channel
13:55<weasel>hdon: bathtubgirl is worse
13:55<chealer>Stuckey: then Google or the manual may tell
13:56<hdon>weasel: ugh :O
13:57<Stuckey>In the manual it says "LAN PCIe Gb LAN controller, featuring AI NET2"
13:57<Stuckey>And that's all it says.
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13:59<chealer>Stuckey: looks like an ASUS mobo marketing thing
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13:59<brian5555>how do i find out the ip my computer is using?
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14:00<Stuckey>brian5555, ifconfig
14:00<Stuckey>chealer, Yeah but I don't see any relevant information as to the type of ethernet driver it needs.
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14:09<chealer>Stuckey: it says the same thing as your manual. does the card work with other operating systems?
14:09<Stuckey>chealer, I don't know I only use debian.
14:10<chealer>Stuckey: is the Ethernet enabled in the BIOS?
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14:11<Stuckey>chealer, Let me check the bios thing... moment
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14:11<Stuckey>Does anyone know the command to make an .iso cd?
14:11<Stuckey>I have an .iso file and I want to make that image on a cd, that is, I don't want the data on a cd I want an image created from the .iso onto the cd
14:12<grochap>Stuckey, use a program like gnomebaker or k3b to do it
14:12<grochap>Stuckey, almost all cd recorder programs have the option "burn image"
14:12<grochap>Stuckey, simply that's way ;)
14:12<Stuckey>grochap, but is'nt there a way to do this from the command line?
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14:12<grochap>Stuckey, well, google is your friend
14:13<grochap>Stuckey, :D
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14:13<stew>Stuckey: you have an iso, which is an image of a cd, and you want to burn this image to a cd?
14:14<Stuckey>stew, yep I'm making a debian install cd.
14:14<stew>Stuckey: "wodim foo.iso"
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14:14<Stuckey>stew, wow, very simple.
14:17<Stuckey>grochap, did you catch that?
14:20<grochap>Stuckey, yep, very useful! Because this I like free software. ;)
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14:24<blarson>grochap: wodim
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14:25<Stuckey>Whoever told me to enable the ethernet in bios was right.
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14:26<Stuckey>abrotman, here's the output of "lspci -nn" with line 21 representing the ethernet card.
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14:30<abrotman>where ?
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14:34<Stuckey>sorry abrotman
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14:34<Stuckey>abrotman, I've got a light on on the back of this thing so I'm going to see if infact it works right now---perhaps the driver is in lenny
14:35<chealer>Stuckey: lenny already has a driver for that.
14:35<Stuckey>chealer, wonderful I'm going to test it.
14:35<Stuckey>Thanks chealer for telling me to check the BIOS.
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14:37<adama>hmm, so echo blah >> file will put blah on the end of file. Is there a way to _prepend_ to a file? ie put blah at the start of file
14:37<adama>without using several commands and a temp file
14:38<simonrvn>echo blah >> file; echo otherfile >> file ?
14:39<abrotman>tac ?
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14:39<adama>I don't think either of those will work
14:41<adama>I want a simpler way to do: "echo blah >file.tmp; cat file>>file.tmp;mv file.tmp file"
14:41<abrotman>maybe ask #bash on freenode
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14:42<stew>(echo blah ; cat file) > file.tmp ; mv file.tmp file
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14:43<stevecotton>I don't think it can be done in C without a temp file (or temp in memory)
14:43<adama>echo blah | cat - file > tmpfile && mv tmpfile file
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14:43<adama>or some kind of program called ex:
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14:44<adama>I don't understand the ex example
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14:45<adama>oh well
14:45<Stuckey>Hello adama
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14:46<Stuckey>You helped me the other night with my internet connection.
14:46<adama>in Germany?
14:46<stew>adama: the ex commands being run are "0a" == "at line zero, start appending" ; then two lines are inserted, the "." means "no more lines to insert", then "w" means "write the file to disk"
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14:47<adama>stew: ok
14:47<adama>Stuckey: what have you got now?
14:47<adama>get debian on the i386 or PPC ?
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14:49<adama>Stuckey: cool, how'd you get it working?
14:50<Stuckey>adama: I had to get the correct password to the wpa (version 1) encrypted network, log on to that, then use "pppoeconf" to login to the ISP's ADSL server.
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14:50<adama>Stuckey: nicely done. How'd you get pppoeconf installed?
14:50<Stuckey>But after that I had problems with the wireless connection; so I went to ethernet which is what I've got now.
14:51<Stuckey>adama, Off a lenny CD
14:51<adama>yeah I thought it'd be there
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14:52<Stuckey>It feels so good to be free from wireless.
14:53<adama>most people will say it feels good to be free from wires, but maybe in germany they like wires? ;)
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14:57<farthing>hey. on a net install is there any way my installation could be compromised by a malicious third party?
14:58<Stuckey>adama, Well no not at all. You see the wires in a computer network are looked upon by the German with much condensation, as it's clean to him that their elimination (e.g., the transition from a wired computer network to a wireless one) would be guaranteed to introduce, at the least, an added element of complexity to the usage of the computer. The German does not like this as his goal in life is to make things as complicated as he can.
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15:00<adama>Stuckey: ok, but what if you want to use the computer while on the toilet?
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15:01<adama>farthing: it is possible but I think you will get a lot of apt gpg errors
15:01<adama>farthing: I wouldn't concern yourself
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15:02<farthing>adama: and what is your experience with debian/aptitude? just asking
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15:03*chealer agrees with adama
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15:04<chealer>farthing: a malicious third party being a mirror?
15:05<farthing>no... someone between the mirror and me
15:05<farthing>is that even possible?
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15:05<valdyn>farthing: always
15:05<farthing>or am i seeing little gremlins everywhere again?
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15:05<farthing>valdyn: always possible?
15:05<valdyn>farthing: yes
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15:06<farthing>i'm trying to get an idea of just what a detirmined person could accomplish
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15:06<valdyn>farthing: only way around theoretical man in the middle atk is exchanging keys offline
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15:06<farthing>maybe i should just get the full install cd
15:07<valdyn>farthing: a man in the middle obviously has to own / have access to the middle, determination isnt enough
15:07<Vanyschka>Dobrogo dnya!!! est zdes russkoyazichnie?
15:08<abrotman>Vanyschka: english please
15:08<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @
15:10<chealer>farthing: since APT 0.6 (Debian 4), a MITM could only exploit security bugs that were once present in Debian.
15:11<Stuckey>This may be a stupid question but if I'm not behind a router, I wouldn't have to worry about NAT problems with bittorrent (i.e., people not being able to connect to me)
15:11<valdyn>Stuckey: s/router/behind a msquerading router/
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15:12<Stuckey>valdyn, ?
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15:17<Supaplex>Stuckey: some stateful firewalls may rely on the protocol in use prior to passing traffic. other than that (source nat/static nat), no. masquerading is a little different (like sourcenaat, but lower performing, and best for dynamic connections)
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15:21<sysop>ne1 have a good howto for a2dp headphones in debian?
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15:22<abrotman>i can't even read that
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15:25<metalqga>me too :)
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15:27<Phoenix_the_II>anyone very familiar in transforming iproute2+iptables and dual uplinks into 1 gateway?
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15:28<stew>Phoenix_the_II: what do you mean?
15:28<Phoenix_the_II>i got 2 ISP's
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15:28<Phoenix_the_II>and making a iptable router
15:29<Phoenix_the_II>which can switch between those 2
15:29<Phoenix_the_II>without the need of going to reconfigure X pc's
15:29<petern>good luck
15:29<Phoenix_the_II>ye, so far as you see, 1 connection works
15:29<Phoenix_the_II>the other doesnt :<
15:30<stew>Phoenix_the_II: so you want to create a router with two uplinks, that other machines can use as a default gateway?
15:30<stew>Phoenix_the_II: /msg dpkg split access
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15:30<Phoenix_the_II>not loadbalancing
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15:30<stew>Phoenix_the_II: you don't want to do loadbalancing over the subnets, you just want both to be usable?
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15:31<Phoenix_the_II>since the 2 aren't the smae
15:31<Phoenix_the_II>i got cable + dsl
15:31<Phoenix_the_II>cable = 120mbit
15:31<Phoenix_the_II>dsl = 16mbit
15:31<petern>120 mbit :o
15:31<Phoenix_the_II>cable has port restrictions
15:31<Phoenix_the_II>whereas dsl hasnt
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15:31<Phoenix_the_II>i want to sent port 25 over dsl
15:31<Phoenix_the_II>for example
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15:31<petern>so you need rules to route certain ports over the ADSL
15:31<Phoenix_the_II>while leaving the rest over the cable
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15:32<Phoenix_the_II>so far i've got is marking and routing with a route table
15:32<Phoenix_the_II>but i just cant get the 2nd connection working @ PC's
15:32<Phoenix_the_II>if i select it as default gateway
15:32<stew>Phoenix_the_II: do you currently have two routing tables set up?
15:32<Guest1246>is anyone else having problems connecting to the MSN messenger network using centerim? I'm using Debian Lenny
15:32<Phoenix_the_II>i can send you a mail with the complete current config :P
15:32<stew>Phoenix_the_II: /msg dpkg paste
15:33<Phoenix_the_II>Ok simple overview:
15:33<Phoenix_the_II>eth0: DSL, XS4all (100mbit port)
15:33<Phoenix_the_II>miss paste
15:34<Phoenix_the_II>ah, there's a dutch tag in there
15:34<Phoenix_the_II>'Niet werkend' means 'Not working'
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15:35<Phoenix_the_II>and yes, i got my echo 1 > ipv4_forward on
15:35<Phoenix_the_II>else i wouldn't be here :D
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15:36<stew>Phoenix_the_II: ok, and what is wrong with the "working" routing table?
15:36<Phoenix_the_II>thats the dsl connection
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15:36<Phoenix_the_II>which shouldn't be the default
15:36<Phoenix_the_II>yet when i replace the default gateway in table main
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15:37<Phoenix_the_II>the PC's who are using this gateway wont connect
15:37<jeffd>What does it mean when you have a package with {u} after its name?
15:37<Phoenix_the_II>the router itself can use the connection
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15:38<Phoenix_the_II>stew, it just looks like this should be working right? :x
15:39<Phoenix_the_II>even with the 'not working' setup?
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15:40<stew>Phoenix_the_II: you have no rules which would make it look at your cable routing table ever, do you?
15:40<Phoenix_the_II>my table main of iproute
15:40<Phoenix_the_II>will have the default gateway of the cable
15:40<Phoenix_the_II>on eth2
15:41<Phoenix_the_II>table xs4all has a other default gateway
15:41<stew>Phoenix_the_II: are you sure the cable addresses are correct?
15:41<Phoenix_the_II>it's DHCP assigned
15:42<stew>Phoenix_the_II: can you use tcpdump to see if traffic is actually going out on eth2 or not?
15:43<Phoenix_the_II>21:44:08.525762 arp who-has tell
15:43<Phoenix_the_II>21:44:08.838030 arp who-has tell
15:43<Phoenix_the_II>only these
15:44<farthing>if i want stable do i want etchnhalf?
15:44<Phoenix_the_II>few others now
15:44<stew>farthing: probably
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15:48<Phoenix_the_II>gonna try other way around
15:48<Phoenix_the_II>get the cable working first then the dsl
15:48<Phoenix_the_II>maybe something different happens
15:49<stew>Phoenix_the_II: did you try to send traffic when that tcpdump was running?
15:49<Phoenix_the_II>need to change the gateway for that first
15:49<Phoenix_the_II>which d/c's me here :p
15:49<stew>ok, this paste is a waste then
15:49<Phoenix_the_II>heh :p
15:49<Phoenix_the_II>give me a few minutes
15:50<Phoenix_the_II>hopefully ill be back soon
15:50<Phoenix_the_II>on the other connection
15:50<Phoenix_the_II>try to get this connection to work aswell :D
15:50<Phoenix_the_II>flushing iptables now
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15:54<Stuckey>I'm have a strange problem with mplayer that perhaps someone here could help me with; when I try to run mplayer to play a movie the colours are all messed up (like the hue/contrast/RGB balance whatever you want to call it) until I click on the nVidia Xserver settings thing in the system tools menu; then everything on my screen refreshes and the colour in mplayer looks prefect. Anyone have any ideas on this?
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15:55<PhoenixII>getting crazy now
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15:59<metalqga>stuckey tried VLC? and did you manage to set-up your net?
15:59<Stuckey>metalqga, Yep... it's working great now... thanks for the help.
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16:01<Stuckey>Where can I find my options for install desktop enviroments in etch?
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16:01<drmay>From a debian unstable I am trying to ssh -X, but the host cannot run any X app cause it can't find the display, any hint?
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16:02<stew>drmay: /msg dpkg sshx
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16:03<drmay>thanks stew
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16:04<drmay>stew:no sshx package
16:04<Stuckey>I have an old laptop which I'm going to use to just play movies with mplayer, could anyone recommend a desktop enviroment for me?
16:04<stew>dpkg: tell drmay about sshx
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16:05<freedomuser>stuckey, usa ogle si vas a ver dvd
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16:05<metalqga>or xfce
16:06<Stuckey>freedomuser, I don't speak that language.
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16:06<drmay>stew: thanks, didn't know you invoking dpkg :)
16:06<metalqga>stuckey all you need is twm and vlc
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16:06<Stuckey>metalqga, I like mplayer though
16:07<freedomuser>use ogle, is a very good player for dvd an other formats of video
16:07<metalqga>ok twm and mplayer
16:07<Stuckey>freedomuser, what language was that by the way?
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16:08<amphi>Stuckey: spanish, looks like
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16:09<freedomuser>stuckey, i live in argentina, mi inglesh is very bad
16:09<freedomuser>i'm sorry
16:09<Stuckey>freedomuser, *my English is not very good.
16:10<freedomuser>ok, thank you
16:10<Stuckey>freedomuser, nah, you speak well, I can understand.
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16:10<metalqga>freedomuser, our spanish is not good enuf :D
16:10<freedomuser>jaja, sorry, install ogle in your system
16:10<Stuckey>metalqga, *enough you mean.
16:11<metalqga>i know what I meant
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16:16<Stuckey>Has anyone used the LXDE desktop environment?
16:17<metalqga>nooone, even the developers haven't
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16:18<Stuckey>smart ass
16:18<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search>
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16:19*Stuckey asks dpkg about popcon
16:20<Stuckey>!tell stuckey about popcon
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16:20<metalqga>!tell stuckey about linux
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16:20<Stuckey>What was that???
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16:22<jthomas>I changed my /etc/hosts file today and now when I run anything with sudo I get this, how can I fix it without reverting my /etc/hosts file ? "sudo: unable to resolve host jthomas-debian"
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16:22<Stuckey>metalqga, what do you mean Linux is closed?
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16:23<Stuckey>What's the best way to set up a computer that you're planning just to use to watch movies with mplayer on?
16:23<metalqga>dpkg told ya that
16:23<dpkg>metalqga: no idea
16:23<sepski>Stuckey, freevo perhaps
16:23<metalqga>and by ya I meant you
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16:26<Stuckey>I think I might just want to use mplayer and make my own with debian
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16:33<Stuckey>sepski, So with this freevo will I need a window manager/desktop environment installed?
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16:43<zaikxtox>hello. someone tried installing lenny on a ext4 partition?
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16:44<After__of__death>buenas tardes gente
16:44<After__of__death>como os va!
16:44<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
16:44<zaikxtox>After__of__death, buenas tardes, todo bien. este es el canal in english
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16:45<After__of__death><zaikxtox> en ingles?
16:45<zaikxtox>After__of__death, exatcly
16:45<Lenhix>Yes, we speak in english her
16:46<After__of__death>apa voy muerto entonces
16:46<zaikxtox>After__of__death, hace /join #debian-es
16:46<After__of__death>apenas manejo el ingles
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16:47<Stuckey>Could anyone tell me how to save and exit from vim???
16:48<zaikxtox>Stuckey, :wq
16:48<Stuckey>that's right, thanks
16:48<zaikxtox>Stuckey, just in case, press ESC to be sure to be in command mode
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16:48<Lenhix>I'd press ESC several times
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16:49<Stuckey>zaikxtox, i'm pressing esc but nothign is happenign, i'm still in insert mode
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16:49<After__of__death>good bye
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16:49<zaikxtox>Stuckey, and you can still write? aybe you have pressed NumLock and locked the terminal
16:49<kdas>i am having troubles with my logitech quick cam... i download qc-usb-source and then i did a make and make install and i tryied modprobing and insmod quickcam.ko but i get "insmod: error inserting 'quickcam.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module" any ideas?
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16:50<Stuckey>zaikxtox, nope, I think it's something wrong with this machine I'm going to just reset it.
16:50<Stuckey>zaikxtox, nothing is responding.
16:50<zaikxtox>kdas, try the module-assistant package. it's made right for that.
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16:50<zaikxtox>Stuckey, maybe an ssh session stuck on a crappy tcp/ip link?
16:51<Stuckey>zaikxtox, I got into a different terminal but tty1 is still stuck
16:51<Stuckey>zaikxtox, nope, this computer isn't networked yet
16:51<zaikxtox>Stuckey, ugly. go another terminal and kill vim. it will complain of having a swap file. you usually can recover your work and finish saving.
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16:52<Stuckey>zaikxtox, I use the kill command that sends the sigterm? which one is that? -h? or something?
16:53<zaikxtox>oh... i usually do ps x |grep vim
16:53<kdas>zaikxtox, umm never knew this tool existed
16:53<kdas>zaikxtox, thanks
16:53<zaikxtox>and with the pid number a kill -9
16:54<Stuckey>zaikxtox, does that send the signal to the program to end or does it just kill it?
16:54<Stuckey>zaikxtox, I'd like to try to get the program to close first.
16:54<kdas>zaikxtox, is there a way i can view my webcam remotely ?
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16:55<zaikxtox>kdas, the lazy way is just opening your favorite cam viewing program on a remote terminal (exporting your X11 session with ssh, or using vncserver)
16:56<zaikxtox>Stuckey, it kills it. yeas, it's not nice
16:56<Stuckey>zaikxtox, what's the nice way to do it that should be tired first?
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16:56<kdas>zaikxtox, hehe yea i am just using plain ssh and prefer not to use vnc. what about the webcam package it says something about using it over ssh or ftp you know anything about that or a manual?
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16:58<zaikxtox>kdas, mmmh. i think it just uploads a picture to an ftp from time to time
16:58<kdas>zaikxtox, thats ugly maybe i should just try to install webcam-server
16:59<zaikxtox>maybe. i never did so much research on webcams
16:59<zaikxtox>but should be a program like the one you want or need
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17:01<kdas>zaikxtox, yea... ok one probem is that i got the module up but there is no /dev/video0 device ???
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17:02<zaikxtox>kdas, then first you should try if camorama for example can see your webcam
17:02<kdas>zaikxtox, yea let me play with this for a second
17:03<zaikxtox>of course
17:03<zaikxtox>Stuckey, mmmh. trying to unlock the terminal tty1, but i could not even make an idea of what locked it
17:03<Stuckey>shitty hardware perhaps
17:04<zaikxtox>i don't know... it can be ... but is hard to guess on blind :)
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17:11<kdas>zaikxtox, ok no there is no camera device .. should i restart?
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17:12<zaikxtox>have you made a modprobe of your camera module?
17:12<zaikxtox>maybe a dmesg gives you some clues
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17:12<kdas>zaikxtox, yes modprobe quickcam
17:12<zaikxtox>and dmesg says something?
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17:13<kdas>zaikxtox, no
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17:13<kdas>zaikxtox, yes it says something but nothing about the camera errors just that it found it on usb
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17:14<zaikxtox>well... just to be lazy, try to restart
17:15<zaikxtox>if it still is not found, you should read mknod maybe
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17:15<kdas>zaikxtox, well i did a mknod c 81 0 video0
17:16<kdas>zaikxtox, but that didn't help anything... hold on let me reboot the machine
17:16<panagos>how can i add themes to wordpress without modifying /usr/share/wordpress/wp-content/themes ?
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17:20<flower>hi, I want to customize the debian-installer a bit, maybe there are people here who have experience with it, here are two options I edit, could someone check if it's right?
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17:22<kdas>zaikxtox, ok no that did not work
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17:22<zaikxtox>but if you do a ls -l /dev/video0 what gives you?
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17:22<kdas>zaikxtox, nothing
17:22<zaikxtox>wait me. i'm googling
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17:24<zaikxtox>ls -l /dev/v4l/video0 ?
17:24<zaikxtox>hello |MathieuM|
17:25<kdas>zaikxtox, nope
17:25<|MathieuM|>I'm trying to install Lenny daily on some recent dell servers - with among other things / as an LVM partition (I have /boot on an ext3 partition)
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17:25<zaikxtox>ls -l /dev/v4l/* ?
17:26<|MathieuM|>everything goes fine till I reboot, then I get Volume group "vgMain" not found (vgMain being my volume group with / on it)
17:26<|MathieuM|>I tried rebuilding initrd - everything seems to go in there (proper raid drivers, lvm modules ...)
17:26<kdas>zaikxtox, the only directory with "v" is vcs
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17:27<kdas>zaikxtox, here is from dmesg : [ 537.684763] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
17:27<kdas>[ 537.714379] usbcore: registered new interface driver quickcam
17:27<zaikxtox>try that module
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17:28<|MathieuM|>anyone got a clue on what I could try ?
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17:28<zaikxtox>just because i have read it on google.
17:29<|MathieuM|>(nb : I googled first :D )
17:29<kdas>zaikxtox, haha ok one second
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17:30<panagos>is there some repo for debian with wordpress themes/plugins/etc? because i'm not seeing much movement in the official repos thereabout... :)
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17:34<zaikxtox>good soft
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17:34<kdas>zaikxtox, guess thats what it was ;) thanks
17:35<zaikxtox>no problem! enjoy!! :)
17:35<zaikxtox>i go to buy thing to make the dinner
17:35<zaikxtox>see you!
17:35<kdas>zaikxtox, that sorta pissed me off i wonder if i even need the qc-usb-source package
17:35<kdas>zaikxtox, ok thanks cya
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17:35<zaikxtox>kdas, i'm sure that the qc-usb package is just not needed
17:36<kdas>zaikxtox, yea... that sucks oh well
17:36<zaikxtox>|MathieuM|, i don't know about LVM . good luck with that
17:36<zaikxtox>i go now :)
17:36<|MathieuM|>thx :)
17:36<|MathieuM|>looks like it will be a fun issue to fix :)
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17:40<phorce1>|MathieuM|: might want to ask over on freenode, the chan is a bit busier
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17:40<|MathieuM|>phorce1: I'm actually more used to freenode, thought this place would fit better
17:40<|MathieuM|>going there, thanks :)
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17:42<panagos>is the dpkg bot down?
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17:42<dmoerner>panagos: its up
17:42<ajaishan>im gettin an error with the VBoxPython module
17:42<dmoerner>apt is not up, however
17:42<panagos>heh, my bad, i joined #dpkg instead!
17:43<ajaishan>the closed source version of VBoxPython works well, but when i use the compiled OSE version, my application crashes
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17:46<phorce1>|MathieuM|: you'll probably want to cool your heels for about 10 minutes over there then ask again when your question won't get buried in a mass of newbie posts
17:47<|MathieuM|>hehe :)
17:47<|MathieuM|>thx for the advice
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17:48<phorce1>if you ask again too quick you'll just get flamed for repeating ;-)
17:48<|MathieuM|>I know that yep ;)
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17:49<|MathieuM|>now checking the dell mailing list archive - as the issue may be related to the box (pre-sarge had issues with their raid cards)
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17:50<Jpdota>hi, i just installed the proprietary nvidia drivers on lenny, and fonts in programs all seem to be bold now, anyone know how i can fix that (aside from removing the drivers)
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18:15<randomly>i just did a net install off the newest netinstall cd. i rebooted after install and now i'm staring at a prompt that says (initramfs)
18:16<randomly>my hd didn't even mount
18:17<randomly>yeah. my install seems borked
18:17<abrotman>!waiting for root filesystem
18:17<abrotman>oh .. bot hates me
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18:18<randomly>so i take it there is a solution
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18:18<randomly>grub never even loaded
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18:27<mike_>Has anybody here successfully installed gobjc for Debian?
18:28<mike_>I installed it using apt-get, but `which gobjc' returns nil, so I don't know how I'm supposed to use this.
18:28<blarson>randomly: If you are at initramfs, grub loaded and loaded your kernel. Then failed to mount your hard drive.
18:29<blarson>randomly: There's a rootdelay or rootwait option that can be added to the grub command line that helps in some cases.
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18:29<randomly>i never saw my grubmenu. btw this was a encrypted lvm
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18:30<blarson>randomly: I havn't tried encryption. is /boot unencrypted?
18:31<randomly> /boot is not visible
18:31<themill>mike_: did you install gobjc or did you install gobjc-4.3?
18:31<mike_>Interesting... I installed gobjc, and later tried to install gobjc-4.1 but it said I'm already at the latest version for that. apt-cache search did not list gobjc-4.3
18:32<themill>judd versions gobjc-4.3
18:32<judd>themill: gobjc-4.3 -- lenny: 4.3.2-1.1 sid: 4.3.2-3
18:32<themill>mike_: aren't you running lenny?
18:32<mike_>Hmm... I think not, how do I tell definitively what version of Debian this is?
18:32<blarson>randomly: The initramfs prompt is a shell with limited commands available. So you might be able to mount your drive.
18:33<randomly>yeah. i don't know the name of it
18:33<blarson>randomly: But your initramfs may be missing something needed to mount your encrypted filesystem.
18:33<themill>t mike_ version
18:33<themill>dpkg, tell mike_ about version
18:33<randomly>cryptsetup is there
18:34<randomly>i think that is what is used
18:34<randomly>at least, that's what i was reading yesterday
18:34<randomly>never did finish the article
18:34<mike_>themill: I'm on Debian 4.0 / Etch.
18:35<blarson>randomly: You can look in your /dev tree for it. echo * works if ls doesn't.
18:36<themill>mike_: ahh... Well 4.1 it is then. Have a look in /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.1-base/ObjC/
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18:40<oax>is there a good place to read about dbus and hal? I'd like to understand them better for debugging purposes
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18:42<mike_>themill: I only see README.{gz,threads} and THREADS.{MACH,gz} there...
18:42<mike_>themill: I shall read!
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18:51<mike_>thmill: I... Don't get it?
18:52<mike_>(but I'm pleased that vi knows what to do with a file like README.gz :-)
18:54<oax>everytime I log in to gnome: "Internal error"/"Failed to initialize HAL!" how do I go about troubleshooting this? I grepped the logs for HAL and nothing interesting
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18:57<abrotman>is hal running ?
18:58<abrotman>/etc/init.d/hal restart
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19:01<allisonvoll>someone know one apache module to logging slow php scripts?
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19:35<jpinx>anyone know how to identify the chipset of a USB modem. lsusb lists it as Bus 005 Device 005:ID 047e:2893 Agere Systems, Inc. (Lucent)
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19:40<abrotman>jpinx: try -v ?
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20:00<maxb>Any pbuilder experts here? I'm wondering why --use-pdebuild-internal should " not protect the working directory and its parent directories from the build scripts." (quoting the manpage)
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20:14<jpinx>abrotman: thanks but ouch - information overload - the chipset is not listed as such, what would it look like maybe?
20:15<abrotman>you could google it
20:15<jpinx>yea - I've been googling for ages - I am asking here because I got nothing on google
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20:23<redash23>I'm having trouble with a fresh install from dvd iso with php5-mysqli
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20:24<stew>redash23: you mean 'php5-mysql'?
20:24<redash23>I'm using apt-get install php5-mysqli but get the no installation candidate
20:24<stew>redash23: you want php5-mysql not php5-mysqli
20:26<redash23>stew:was the php5-mysqli superceded?
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20:27<allisonvoll>have an apache module to report slow scripts?
20:27<stew>redash23: there never was a php5-mysqli package in debian. the name of the package which contains the mysqli module in debian is 'php5-mysql'. apt-cache show php5-mysql
20:28<redash23>ok thanks
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20:37<amir>hey, is this the right place to ask a question?
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20:38<redash23>can someone point me in the right direction to install vmware tools for the latest distro? some post on internet says simply to select linux as OS...but I don't have that in my list.
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20:41<amir>my question is this: where can i find the file that controls the WMs that show when i press f1 in the login menu? i need to add fluxbox to the list. a google search turned up nothing. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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20:52<abrotman>amir: is fluxbox installed ?
20:52<amir>abrotman, yes it is installed, i'm using it right now
20:52<amir>i should explain better
20:52<amir>i'm actually using antiX
20:53<abrotman>i have no idea what that is
20:53<amir>when i updated all my packages the debian autologinX updated and fluxbox is no longer a wm option but there was a script installed in icewm that switched to fluxbox for me
20:53<dpkg>antiX MEPIS is a MEPIS-based live CD distribution. User forums: See also <MEPIS> and <based on Debian>. #mepis on
20:54<amir>antiX is a mepis based distro, it uses mostly debian repos and packages
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20:55<amir>if i could find the file that controls the wm options i could figure out how to add fluxbox on there
20:55<abrotman>i think you're in the wrong channel
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20:55<amir>abrotman, not really, my question is about a package developed by and for debian
20:55<amir>i believe it's called autologinX
20:55<abrotman>judd: versions autologinX
20:55<judd>abrotman: autologinX --
20:56<abrotman>not in any version of debian
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20:57<amir>well i'm looking at the debian wiki page for autologinX right now, unfortunately i have seperate issue where iceweasel thinks i'm russian and all my search results direct me to russian pages
20:57<amir>so i can't read or understand the wiki article
20:57<abrotman>we do not support debian based distros here
20:57<abrotman>if you want help here, install Debian
20:59<amir>abrotman, so what you're telling me is that you don't know
20:59<amir>either that or you're being spiteful
20:59<abrotman>i'm telling you that you're offtopic
20:59<abrotman>we cannot support every distro based on debian in this channel, and that's the policy
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20:59<amir>because it doesn't make a difference which distro i'm running the conf file should be the same
20:59<goodger>spitefulness is incident
20:59<abrotman>amir: if you continue, you can be silenced, i'd suggest you try #mepis on freenode or ##linux on freenode
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21:00<amir>abrotman, it's nice to see you embrace the open source ideal of community and cooperation :D
21:00<abrotman>thanks for stopping by
21:01<amir>it's been fun, i guess the debian community believes that if they keep acting like proprietary software suppliers then they will be better equipped to compete with them
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21:02<amir>interesting philosophy
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21:02<goodger>yes, it is
21:02<abrotman>that makes a ton of sense .. really
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21:28<mike_>Hai guys
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21:59<RIVE>Hi, good evening.
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22:08<julia>anyone know how to fix? : echo -n 20 > /proc/acpi/video/OVGA/DD02/brightness
22:08<julia>bash: /proc/acpi/video/OVGA/DD02/brightness: Permission denied
22:09<julia>I can't set the brightness on my new vaio
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22:10<dani>hello hello! i am trying to run nmap. I installed it from synaptics but i don't know where it is located or how to make it run
22:10<abrotman>what are the perms on the file ?
22:10<abrotman>dani: from the console
22:10<dani>whats the command?
22:10<user549>hey is there another gui freespace app besides gtkdiskfree?
22:11<abrotman>dani: nmap
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22:11<dani>ya but it doesn't open nmap, it just gives me a bunch of blabla's
22:12<abrotman>no kidding .. read the docs
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22:13<dani>isn't nmap suppose to be a program?
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22:13<panagos>how does dh_make know about my email? :)
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22:15<BaDaSs>Could anyone assist me with a debian installation? Its not mounting my DVD-ROM Drive (Says it is missing a few IDE modules)
22:15<BaDaSs>It says CDROM-DETECT failed
22:15<RIVE>dani, Are you sure you have installed it?
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22:16<dani>ya and i just reinstalled it
22:17<abrotman>it's not a GUI app
22:17<dani>still nothing pops up from terminal when i type nmap
22:17<RIVE>The command must be... nmap (ip addres)
22:18<dani>this is what i get
22:18<dani>Starting Nmap 4.62 ( ) at 2009-01-19 22:17 EST
22:18<dani>Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
22:18<dani>Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 2.097 seconds
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22:20<RIVE>It gives you an answer.
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22:20<RIVE>Ty a another ip address.
22:22<BaDaSs>Can anyone help me please?
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22:23<RIVE>BaDaSs, Is a laptop?
22:23<BaDaSs>it is a desktop using a Memorex DVD-ROM with lightscribe
22:24<BaDaSs>I am using the latest Debian 4.0R6
22:24<BaDaSs>the Large Install CDs
22:24<dani>well it's scanning that ip addy now
22:24<BaDaSs>I have also tried the Inet Installer
22:24<abrotman>BaDaSs: i'd probably use a lenny netinst
22:24<BaDaSs>You think it would work?
22:25<dani>im checking it because on Transmission it gives me this port error saying it's blocked and my download rate is very low
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22:26<RIVE>BaDaSs, is a IDE or a SATA unit?
22:26<BaDaSs>and the installer when I hit ALT+F4 says something about missing IDE modules
22:26<BaDaSs>a few of them
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22:26<abrotman>BaDaSs: it's worth trying
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22:28<RIVE>Like abrotman tell you, try Lenny.
22:28<BaDaSs>I will, but if it fails, what is the fix for this?
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22:33<BaDaSs>So what you guys are saying is that its not a common error?
22:33<BaDaSs>Or you just don't know how to fix it?
22:34<abrotman>there are a few chipsets that allow the etch installer to boot, but then later can't find the CD
22:34<abrotman>the lenny installer has more recent hardware support, so the chances are better
22:34<dondelelcaro>basically because it's two separate operations
22:35<abrotman>BaDaSs: on top of, lenny is due out "Real Soon Now", and it's your desktop system
22:35<blarson>There is also etch and a half (etch with newer kernel).
22:35<dpkg>"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: Installation instructions: See also or <etchnhalf facts>
22:35<BaDaSs>oh i c
22:35<BaDaSs>I should have seen that
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22:36<BaDaSs>cuz the one I have uses 2.6.18
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22:36<BaDaSs>isn't the latest kernel .28?
22:36<dondelelcaro>yes, but we're trying to release, so 2.6.26 is what has been tested
22:36<BaDaSs>what kernel is lenny using
22:36<dondelelcaro>(and aI guess it was .24 at the time etch and a half was under development)
22:36<dondelelcaro>BaDaSs: 2.6.26 with patches
22:37<BaDaSs>getting horrible download speed for lenny lol
22:37<BaDaSs>no torrents huh?
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22:38<dondelelcaro>BaDaSs: you don't need the whole cd; just get the netinst to test to see if it works.
22:38<BaDaSs>Yes, thats what I am doing
22:38<BaDaSs>but its downloading awefully slow :-p
22:39<BaDaSs>150MB file
22:39<BaDaSs>do the math
22:42<dondelelcaro>BaDaSs: find a faster mirror?
22:43<abrotman>i thought there were torrents for the lenny netinsts
22:43<BaDaSs>theres only 1 spot for the i386 lenny RC1
22:43<BaDaSs>no ;(
22:43<BaDaSs>maybe for the DVDs
22:43<BaDaSs>not for the net
22:43<brian17>why dont you try linux torrents?
22:44<BaDaSs>look @ u smarty
22:44<BaDaSs>i looked for that
22:44<BaDaSs>and i didnt find it
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22:44<BaDaSs>Boo @ Site Map
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22:45<chealer>!tell BaDaSs about enter
22:45<BaDaSs>oh thats 3rd party site
22:45<BaDaSs>thats why :-p
22:45<BaDaSs>Sorry mate ;)
22:46<asteroid>hasta la pasta
22:47<asteroid>thanks for everything. I'll try to assemble some more interesting bits, but can't promise that. ciao
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22:53<user549>hey. i'm not seeing sun-java6 in the repos
22:53<Jpdota>make sure you have non-free enabled
22:54<blarson>!tell user549 abount non-free
22:54<Jpdota>!tell jpdota about non-free
22:54<abrotman>!tell Jpdota about selftell
22:54<abrotman>he might be using etch and only have java5
22:54<user549>i am using etch
22:54<blarson>!tell user549 about nonfree
22:54<user549>nope. it's in backportsx
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22:57<brian5555>my sound just stopped working.... in alsa-mixer line is high enough that i should hear but it says off....
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23:34<BaDaSs>Thanks guys, Lenny did it for me
23:34<BaDaSs>RIP 2 Lenny?
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23:40<user549>anyone set up alsa recently? i have two soundcards and i need to set one as default
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23:42<SRV>Does anyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf and default route would disappear each time I reboot, even though I have them listed in my network configuration manager?
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23:44<oscar>god evening
23:45<oscar>ow to show all users when to start kde
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23:56<enouf>oscar: show all users what?
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