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00:28<clarkeo>hi quick question I need advice on getting inetd to start at boot time
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00:30<clarkeo>I have installed the inetd package but it doesnt start when the server boots up and I have to manually invoke it by typing inetd
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00:34<dmoerner>clarkeo: i believe that inetd only starts automatically if you have services enabled in /etc/inted.conf
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00:37<clarkeo>dmoerner: thanks for your help my /etc/inted.conf file is blank so I guess therein lies the problem thanks alot for your help
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00:48<exoon># /etc/inetd.conf: see inetd(8) for further informations.
00:48<exoon># Internet superserver configuration database
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00:53<blarson>!tell exoon about paste
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01:03<Supaplex>fail :P
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01:47<nu>hello, i just intalled Lenny. I'm having trouble viewing Flash Videos (like youtube stuff) in iceweasel though. how do i make it behave normally?
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01:48<Supaplex>that is normal. flash is non-free software
01:49<Supaplex>!tell nu -about flash
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01:58<nu>thank you, i found the backport to non-free flash
02:00<redhoic>ae capa niee
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02:14<dpkg>one warez list being sent to al
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03:25<brunner>Both ekiga and twinkle complain that port 5060 is in use, but netstat -a | grep 5060 yields no output. What could be going on?
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03:27<fxiny>brunner: lsof -i:5060 ?
03:27<brunner>fxiny: no output
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03:46<frankojanko>hi all, i'd like to build a deb system on a virtualbox. Then i'd like to run this system with differences (bigger partition size, other kernel etc) on a real box. Could you tell me the simplest way?
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03:48<Supaplex>if you have ethernet access, just use mini.iso. it's 8mb or something. :)
03:48<dpkg>well, netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but which is not required for a base install to complete, see If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. <netboot miniiso>, or ask me about <check iso image>
03:48<Supaplex>or that.
03:49<frankojanko>okay, that's clear. My question is about the transfert to the real box.
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03:50<hahnp>use dd
03:50<hahnp>if the partitions are the same size it should be no problem
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03:51<frankojanko>partitions do not have the same size
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03:53<frankojanko>that's the problem
03:54<brunner>alright, I give up. I'm just restarting.
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03:55<partha>I have just upgraded to the latest etch
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03:55<partha>however I have the following problems
03:55<hahnp>frankojanko: do you have direct access to the real box
03:55<partha>I have Acer Travelmate 5320
03:56<partha>sound does not work
03:56<pancaran>I need help to upgrade my knoppix
03:56<hahnp>download new version ^^
03:56<partha>neither does gxine/mplayer
03:56<frankojanko>hahnp: yes, i have
03:57<partha>furthermore the laptop microphone does not work
03:57<hahnp>frankojanko: then you could use a livecd. then copy the files via scp just over from the virtualbox
03:57<partha>alsmixer does not show any capture line
03:57<partha>also the built in webcam does not work
03:57<partha>please can someone help
03:58<frankojanko>hahnp: that's all?
03:58<hahnp>think so
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03:58<partha>yes, at present that's all
03:58<hahnp>maybe you have to rebuild mbr adjust grup and something like that
03:58<frankojanko>hahnp: thx:)
03:58<frankojanko>hahnp: okay
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03:59<hahnp>partha: what does lspci show you
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04:00<partha>do you need the lspci output ?
04:01<hahnp>does your card shows up there
04:02<brunner1>two applications are complaining that they can't listen on UDP port 5060 because it's already in use, but nothing shows up about port 5060 in netstat -a... how could this be happening?
04:02<hahnp>partha: yes show it to me
04:02<hahnp>brunner1: lsof -i
04:02<partha>can I upload the lspci output here ?
04:03<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
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04:03<frankojanko>hahnp: and what about if my patitions enrcrypted and i use lvm? i do not know much about lvm...
04:03<brunner1>hahnp: no mention of port 5060
04:04<xmatrix> #thedefaced!
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04:04<hahnp>brunner1: do you use firewall or something
04:04<brunner1>hahnp: not that I'm aware of
04:05<brunner1>hahnp: that's a no, btw...
04:05<frankojanko>hahnp: is this possible to copy with dd and change the partition size on the target disk?
04:06<Supaplex>frankojanko: install the base os on the target, then rsync on top of it. consider /msg dpkg rescue if you get stuck. it might be better to only rsync /home if that's all you're worried about etc.
04:06<brunner1>I just restarted, just for fun, and the same thing occurs with almost nothing running
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04:06<partha>to hahnp: I do ot know how do I send you the lspci output
04:07<partha>please can you tell me
04:07<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
04:07<retep>google earth
04:07<frankojanko>supaplex: not only the home is necessary.
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04:08<frankojanko> /msg dpkg rescue
04:08<Supaplex>frankojanko: be prepared to edit system files when you're done. it's not much different than a restore from backup, but it sounds as though you're changing a few things.
04:08<brunner1>hahnp: what would you do in this situation?
04:09<hahnp>what was it you wanted to use?
04:10<partha>to hahnp: I have pasted and the URL is
04:10<brunner1>hahnp: ekiga or twinkle or any voip softphone
04:11<frankojanko>supaplex: thanks
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04:12<gsimmons>partha: From what I can determine, you'll need at least ALSA 1.0.15 for support of the Realtek ALC268. On Etch systems, this can be provided by installing an "etchnhalf" kernel (/msg dpkg etchnhalf). You may also need to supply "model=acer" as an option to the snd-hda-intel module.
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04:14<partha>thanks and I shall try it
04:14<brunner1>this seems so bizarre.
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04:18<hahnp>brunner: whats the error message when you try to use it
04:18<brunner>Error while starting the listener for the SIP protocol
04:19<brunner>hang on for something more verbose
04:19<hahnp>can you show it
04:19<brunner>2009/02/07 03:19:25.404 0:01.422 ekiga Listen Error in UDP listen: Address already in use
04:20<brunner>2009/02/07 03:19:25.404 0:01.422 ekiga PWLib File handle high water mark set: 43 PUDPSocket
04:20<brunner>sorry, those two lines are in reverse order
04:20<brunner>this is output from ekiga -d 4
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04:21<hahnp>did you use sudo gconf-editor to edit the settings?
04:21<brunner>no, but I used it to confirm the port number
04:22<hahnp>the problem is that when you use sudo it takes affect to root not to the user you are loged in with
04:23<hahnp>there should be something wrong with xour .gconf
04:23<brunner>I tried it with sudo once, but I wasn't running it with sudo when I got that output
04:23<hahnp>no but you configured something using sudo
04:23<brunner>you mean ekiga, or something prior to trying this?
04:25<hahnp>i think theres something wrong with your configuration
04:25<brunner>hahnp: would you help me understand how you know it's related to .gconf?
04:26<hahnp>googled something like this
04:26<hahnp>personaly i never used ekiga or something like this
04:27<brunner>oh wow, this was incredibly stupid
04:27<hahnp>but the problem you have seems to be an configuration problem in your gconf and in case you did some configuration there.
04:27<hahnp>so i think the reason is that you did somethink wrong
04:27<brunner>I still had asterisk running
04:28<brunner>I killed it, and it works now
04:28<brunner>why didn't asterisk show up in the netstat?
04:28<hahnp>dont know
04:29<Supaplex>brunner: what port?
04:30<brunner>UDP 5060
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04:30<Supaplex>what'd you run to check? what switches?
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04:31<brunner>netstat -a and lsof -i
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04:32<Supaplex>well -n shows numerical ports.
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04:42<Supaplex>brunner: works for me...
04:42<brunner>Supaplex: I'll start asterisk again in a minute and see what I was missing
04:44<Supaplex>works for quite a while I might add. :) 09:42:40 up 537 days, 6:57, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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05:24<spande>what is the recommended way in etch to see the video on ?
05:26<spande>I have downloaded the flv file, and mplayer gives this message:
05:26<spande>[flv @ 0xb7b71860]Unsupported video codec (4)
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05:28<Supaplex>there's an mplayer browser plugin iirc.
05:29<spande>gnash isn't installable from etch or backports
05:29<weasel>well, if it can't play it on the console why would it play it in a browser?
05:29<spande>mplayer gives the codec error
05:29<spande>gnash: Depends: gnash-common (= 0.8.2-2~bpo40+1) but it is not going to be installed
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05:31<spande>etch simply doesn't seem to have gnash in etch main contrib non-free
05:31<TMcTrain>hi there
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05:31<TMcTrain>i'll intall a new PC with Debian net install wich one would you suggest?
05:32<TMcTrain>40r6 or 40r6-etchnhalf? whats the difference?
05:32<spande>TMcTrain : lenny unless you really want a server. And even then probably lenny.
05:33<xno>hey, I just discovered the APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists option and cronjob and wondered if it's possible to detect if there are updates and send an email automatically?
05:33<spande>xno: sure it is
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05:34<xno>spande: so the question is: how? :)
05:34<spande>xno: I use the apt-get upgrade --dry-run option myself. easily scriptable to mail it.
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05:35<spande>xno: is your script-fu strong?
05:35*Supaplex checks checks the date+timestamp vs /var/cache/... package db state (cheap first flank test)
05:35<enouf>spande: the file ./bwcheck.flv plays fine here, in mplayer, no gnash, but i'm on lenny/sid
05:36<TMcTrain>lenny is testing? is it stable?
05:36<enouf>spande: that site wants to feed you a SWF file, which mplayer doesn't do - it does do FLV though
05:36<xno>spande: do you know apticron?
05:36<weasel>TMcTrain: it's testing, soon to be stable.
05:36<spande>enouf : sigh. upgrade || die
05:37<spande>xno: nope. where is it's fine manual?
05:37<enouf>try that spande
05:37<TMcTrain>I actually have 40r1 and there I have some major kernel troubles
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05:37<xno>spande: apt-cache show apticron
05:38<ameyer>at this point, lenny's probably pretty much the same as it'll be when it becomes stable next weekend
05:38<ameyer>err, hopefully becomes stable next weekend
05:38<TMcTrain>thanks :-)
05:39<spande>xno : sounds like the right tool for the job
05:40<enouf>spande: the URL i just gave uses "Selected video codec: [ffvp6f] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg VP6 Flash decoder)" in mplayer
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05:40*spande apologises for bad apostrophe s above
05:40<Supaplex>crap. i better check all my sources.list on the network are not referencing 'stable'vs'testing' etc and instead use 'etch' or 'lenny'.
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05:41<spande>enouf : thanks, I'm downloading it. I thought I had picked up the right flv using the mozilla unplug add-on
05:42<spande>but the size discrepancy suggests otherwise
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05:44<spande>enouf : oh dear. Also gave me a [flv @ 0xb7b71860]Unsupported video codec (4)
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05:45<spande>Supaplex: good idea
05:45<spande>enouf : definitely upgrade || die then. Or wait for backport fix.
05:45<enouf>spande: install ffmpeg
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05:46<enouf>spande: /msg dpkg dmme
05:46<spande>ffmpeg is already the newest version. :-(
05:46<enouf>uh oh
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05:49<spande>strange - my mplayer is not the latest. Upgrading...
05:49<Supaplex>[bash head here]
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05:52<amol>hi to all, i am getting error as make : ***No rule to make target `pool/main/d/debootstarp
05:52<amol>needed by debootstrap stop
05:53<Supaplex>amol: on Debian? or not?
05:53<amol>Supaplex, yes
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05:53<Supaplex>amol: why not apt-get install debootstrap ?
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05:54<amol>supaplex, you are correct i did some changes in debian debootrap package what currently i installed in my system
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05:55<xno>de boot strap
05:55<amol>Supaplex, but i am not getting what is relation between currently installed debootstarp and what is available in my pool/
05:57<Supaplex>your own code mods? did you use apt-get source before? what did you type to invoke that make error?
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05:57<Supaplex>anyway. I'm /detaching for zzZzzz land now. *YAWN* 4am here. :)
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05:58<amol>Supaplex, thanks yes i am modifying code i used apt-get source
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06:00<spande>enouf: cool. I managed to see the video after the mplayer upgrade. I did have to force ovewrite some crap to install it (etch)
06:01<enouf>spande: ok then .. i guess
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06:03<spande>enouf :
06:03<spande> um how did you find the url of the static path?
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06:04<spande>I can't find it in the html source anywhere
06:04<enouf>spande: source html -- follow -> so.addVariable( "clipXML", escape( "" ) );
06:04<spande>the unplug addon was just pointing me to the countdown preamble.
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06:04<enouf>now view that file in your browser and you'll see what i posted for you
06:05<spande>enouf: thanks. So search for clip.
06:05<enouf>yeah - they really want to feed you this; var so = new SWFObject( "" ugh ...
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06:06<enouf>so they can track you, your views, tag you - whatever you call it - have you see ads, etc etc
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06:08<enouf>spande: notice, there are two files there, i only posted one - not sure if part1/part2 .. never looked
06:10*spande explores the 2nd one
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06:12<Supaplex>amol: this reaches the fringe of my abilities. I know you'll want to diff compared to the version you forked from, and use uupdate to remerge. consider sending your patch (as a unified diff) to the maintainer.
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06:31<amol>can any one tell me what is procedure to become maintener for a package in debian?
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06:34<maxb> might be a good place to start reading
06:34<cHeLo77>hello ppl
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06:34<cHeLo77>need some help if someone can answer on couple questions
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06:36<lennie_>cHeLo77, just say your questions, don't ask for ask
06:37<cHeLo77>i have HP Pavilion 7945 computer that i trying to instal Debian Etch net instal on it, it worked with network, i managed to install but when i login on Desktop network dont work
06:37<cHeLo77>Debian recognize network card but i can not use them
06:39<cHeLo77>i tryed with several cards and several OS like Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Debian, it was only Debian who managed to install via net
06:40<metalqga>nautilus uses 210mb ram...
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06:41<cHeLo77>it is 512mb sdram on this comp processor is 1400mgz
06:41<cHeLo77>it must run smoothly
06:42<petern>not MHz?
06:42<metalqga>do I have to kill it to release the ram or there is a leaner way?
06:42<cHeLo77>sorry mhz
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06:43<cHeLo77>someone who have similar computer and running Debian smoothly?
06:43<dpkg>All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at and Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <netbook>, <laptop mode>.
06:44<enouf> - and see
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06:56<TakeABow>Can someone help me install php-cli please?
06:57*Supaplex looks at dpkg
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08:00<thkoch>hi. is there any channel for the debian room at fosdem?
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08:24<jos>Hi I have a vnc server which runs hwevre whn i connect no desktop enviroment appears how should i modify .Xsession or /et/X11/Xsession
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08:25<jos>*however *when * /etc
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08:27<pits>hola a tod@s!!
08:28<pits>alguien me puede hechar un cable?¿
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08:29<pits>comop puedo configurar dos conexion en ubuntu?¿
08:29<pits>es decir
08:29<pits>por un lado la wifi para que salga por www, y por otro la eth0 para hacer una LAN con otro pc
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08:30<jos>i get the following erro in my log file (EE) AIGLX: screen 0 not DRI capable
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08:33<jos>what log files should i check to see what is wrong with my vnc configuration
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08:43<debam>hi to all,in CD building creation i am geeting error as Using ISOLINUX boot-disks image on CD1
08:43<debam>mv: cannot stat `boot1/isolinux/isolinux.cfg.withgtk': No such file or directory
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08:46<Anonissimus>what repository has open office 3
08:47<sepski>debam, what cd building tool are you using ?
08:47<Anonissimus>Torsten_W: thnx
08:47<maaaaat>hello, anyone can help me to adjust my debian lenny on HP Laptop with ATI chipset..its really difficult.. sound doesnt work, 3d doesnt work,
08:47<debam>sepski, i am using debian-cd
08:47<sepski>debam, from package or svn ?
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08:48<sepski>debam, also there is a #debian-cd channel here they may know more
08:48<gsimmons>maaaaat: What specific laptop do you have?
08:48<Anonissimus>Torsten_W: what version should I be running then? lenny?
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08:49<maaaaat>its HP pavilion dv7 1010ed, Amd Athlon 64X2, Ati Radeon HD 3450 [maybe mobility],
08:49<Torsten_W>Anonissimus: lenny should be fine
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08:50<Anonissimus>what's an example of a sources.list entry for experimental?
08:50<maaaaat>iv spent a weeks already with trying to get it work
08:51<maaaaat>now im looking for irc channel of
08:52<gsimmons>!tell maaaaat -about radeonhd
08:52<maaaaat>!tell me -about
08:53<maaaaat>i think in Debian it should work
08:54<bzed>Anonissimus: you usually need unstable to run stuff from experimental. lenny *may* work at the moment, though...
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08:55<gsimmons>maaaaat: Your laptop has only been on the market for two months, don't expect complete hardware support. See the radeonhd wiki page on to verify graphic chipset support.
08:56<dpkg>Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Now removed from the mirrors; ask me about <archive>. Get old Sarge ISO's here:
08:56<dpkg>lenny is probably the codename for the next Debian release (5.0, currently also known as "testing"). Lenny will be released real soon now.... To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. See also <wwlr> <testing> and <lenny status>.
08:56<Anonissimus>ok,what's next then?
08:56<maaaaat>okeee.. thanx a lot anyway..i think i should wait a bit for driver
08:56<maaaaat>but sound doesnt work
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08:58<gsimmons>maaaaat: Run update-pciids and provide the output of lspci -nnk at a paste site.
08:58<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
08:58<maaaaat>okok w8
08:58<sepski>debam, i do not have that file either, and it's not needed as far as i know. are you using debian-cd from svn ?
08:58<abrotman>!tell Anonissimus about msg the bot
08:59<abrotman>!tell Anonissimus about squeeze
08:59<debam>sepski, no
09:00<debam>sepski, which one is good to use?
09:00<debam>svn or stable repository?
09:01<sepski>if you build stable (etch) cd, then stable if you build lenny then svn
09:01<gsimmons>maaaaat: No private messages, please. Use a paste site as directed earlier.
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09:03<TakeABow>is there something i can install on my headless debian machine to view the desktop
09:03<TakeABow>i need to use a program that only has a gui
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09:05<debam>sepski, how to get svn debian-cd package?
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09:05<abrotman>TakeABow: a vnc server
09:05<maaaaat>gsimmons, im lame, what u mean pastsite
09:06<TakeABow>abrotman: any recommended ones?
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09:06<abrotman>the on ethat works
09:06<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
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09:13<gsimmons>maaaaat: Again, no private messages please. snd-hda-intel was loaded for your audio devices, have you unmuted/raised your card's mixer levels?
09:13<gsimmons>!tell maaaaat -about alsa-checklist
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09:13<maaaaat>yep..also tried to switch drivers..between alsa oss and others
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09:15<Ikarus>hmz, it is a real shame the Debian archives don't contain every release and binary of every package ever to hit sid (I guess I could find a sponsor for it), would be interesting for historical perspective
09:15<abrotman>!tell Ikarus about sdn
09:16<abrotman>though it's missing quite a bit of stuff at this point
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09:16<Ikarus>abrotman: :(
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09:19<maaaaat>ok it try relog.. brb
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09:20<maaaaat>gsimmons, noise.vaw works well for root
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09:21<spenrok> /server
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09:22<maaaaat>gsimmons, thaaaaaanx
09:22<maaaaat>i reconfigured alsa
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09:25<maaaaat>gsimmons, i got one more thing.. when is it booting it shows in begin messages about softreset of ata1+2 devices.. but sometime it cant find support for all 4usbs
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10:16<aaron>hello everybody
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10:17<aaron>anyone knows hot to install bison driver webcam of a msi wind on ubuntu 8.10
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10:18<Lemonzest>aaron: ask in #ubuntu :P
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10:19<dr|z3d>!tell aaron about ubuntu
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10:32<mrmond>good afternoon. I'm with a guy at a lug meet trying to set up wirless with iwconfig. having some probs.anyone with experience of setting up from the commandline ?
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10:34<gsimmons>mrmond: What device are you attempting to configure? Is an interface currently present?
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10:36<mrmond>it's a pc card (SMC2635W) recognised on lspci.
10:38<gsimmons>mrmond: That should be supported by the adm8211 module in 2.6.24 and later kernels.
10:40<mrmond>it's recognised. having problems getting ip address after iwconfig wlan1 essid "somename" key "WPA key"
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10:42<jos>is there a sun JRE package
10:42<gsimmons>mrmond: You don't use iwconfig to supply WPA pre-shared keys. You'd almost always want to use wpa_supplicant instead; /msg dpkg wpa
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10:53<Lemonzest>i'm using the transmission thats included with lenny (1.22) and its not accepting my blocklist
10:54<Lemonzest>its in the correct dir, and in the correct format, but its ignored, also clicking download blocklist does nothing
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11:14<sprok>any of u guys manged to get the sd card reader/writer to work on their little aspire one?
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11:16<gsimmons>sprok: See ("Card reader"). The procedures are BIOS version-specific.
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11:22<sprok>gsimmons, did it work for u?
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11:24<gsimmons>sprok: I do not have that system.
11:24<sprok>gsimmons, oh ok
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11:38<abyss>lo everyone! someone can help me to get spamassassin work with evolution?
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11:39<abyss>i already installed spamassassin and checked the option in evolution but everytime i select a mail as junk the failure-notice "spamassasin not aviable" appears!
11:39<abyss>what can i do to get it work?
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12:54<TakeABow>how can i install firefox in command line?
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12:55<avu>TakeABow, aptitude install iceweasel
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13:00<TakeABow>ah, thank you
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13:16<oehmr>hi guys, i've installed the codecs from multimedia repo but I can't get vlc to play any video... it seems like it doesn't know where the codecs are located... totem plays the same videos just fine
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13:16<oehmr>im using lenny... does anyone know a way to fix this?
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14:12<blue_sky>cron query: I know I can do every two hours with * */2 * * * , what about every two hours between 8am and 10pm, does this make sense: * 8-22/2 * * * ?
14:13<blue_sky>skip it, I've found it.
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14:17<joesmoje>in sid, starting vmware workstation 6.5.1 segfaults on me. any thoughts?
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14:21<valdyn>joesmoje: read the sid faq
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14:22<joesmoje>valdyn: that is the opposite of helpful.
14:22<joesmoje>i've read the faq. i've been using debian for 8+ years
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14:23<valdyn>joesmoje: that does not make sid supported here.
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15:05<mattgun>does anyone know how to connect to the wine help channel?
15:06<zeev>Hi, how do I install webcam in debian? (which package?)
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15:07<mattgun>i have no clue bro
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15:07<zeev>I have an integrated webcam (in laptop dell inspiron 1525)
15:07<mattgun>i have no clue, have you googled it?
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15:08<mattgun>there are tons of forums that will help you
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15:10<[agatha]>mattgun, you should get the precise model... i think it was lsusb let me check
15:11<[agatha]>jup mattgun if you use lsusb you should have the model of it.. then you can google it
15:11<mattgun>what do you mean?
15:11<mattgun>i'm new to this stuff man, my dad told me to come here
15:11<mattgun>i have wine installed on my machine
15:11<mattgun>all i'm tryin to do is install apps
15:11<mattgun>is that what your talking about?
15:11<[agatha]>hm but what you want to do with the camera?
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15:12<zeev>How do I install video device for webcam? in kernel?
15:12<mattgun>i was talkin to that dude that wanted to know how
15:12<mattgun>i told him to google it so he could find out what he needed for his model and OS
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15:12<[agatha]>*head table head table* sorry i misread :p
15:12<mattgun>zeev, that dude
15:12<[agatha]>need glasses or some sleep dunno
15:12<mattgun>its cool :)
15:12<mattgun>well you might be able to help me though
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15:12<mattgun>i was wanting to know how to get to the wine irc channel
15:13<mattgun>if you could
15:13<mattgun>i don't know how to use this irc
15:13<[agatha]>hmmm i am not sure if there is any wine help channel... tried using /list
15:13<zeev>I have no /dev/video0 device... how do I get one?
15:14<[agatha]>anyway what you need with wine? i may be able to help
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15:14<mattgun>i just want to know how to install itunes on it
15:14<mattgun>i am using ubuntu and i have the itunes executable file and wine installed
15:14<[agatha]>hmm you cant mattgun :p it won't work (or if you find a way, just let me know)
15:14<[agatha]>so far my best for itunes is to run it on VB
15:14<mattgun>ya thats what i was thinking
15:15<[agatha]>i think they have itunes configured not to work on wine i've never managed i always get an error at some point
15:15<mattgun>see i started to download it, i guess wine read the .exe file and then my screen went black, desktop any
15:15<[agatha]>but if it's for an ipod maybe you can try amarok (as long as it's not a nano 4th gen should work)
15:15<[agatha]>yeah mattgun :P
15:15<mattgun>it started installing it and my shit went black so i stopped it
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15:15<mattgun>okay i guess i'll try VB
15:16<[agatha]>mattgun, try with amarok first
15:16<mattgun>is that another wine type epp
15:16<[agatha]>amarok banshee and there are some programs...
15:16<mattgun>yeah thats true
15:16<[agatha]>hmm no mattgun amarok is a music player... you are using gnome or kde?
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15:17<mattgun>i have banshee and gtkpod but i am more farmiliar with itunes so i just wanted it. and i have some other windows apps that i want so i was going to use wine instead of vb
15:17<[agatha]>hmmm not for itunes mattgun ... unfortunately ipod and linux is a little... problem ... and the newer they are the harder
15:17<mattgun>can banshee actually set up the files on my ipod?
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15:17<mattgun>yeah true
15:18<mattgun>its been giving me some problems
15:18<[agatha]>mattgun, i guess so... my ipod nano 4th gen is not supported by anything
15:18<[agatha]>but again, depends on the model
15:18<mattgun>that suc
15:18<[agatha]>rodrigues, maybe #debian-br
15:18<[agatha]>well mattgun as i said, nothing VB cannot fix but still... it's kind of annoying
15:18<mattgun>will your linux not read the nano at all?
15:18<mattgun>yeah i hear that
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15:19<mattgun>i installed vb and put windows xp on it but eventually it stopped working out of the blue
15:19<mattgun>don't know why
15:19<[agatha]>hmmm dunno maybe try to make another one
15:19<[agatha]>if you try to reset up a virtual machine that may work
15:20<[agatha]>re-set up
15:20<[agatha]>jeeee i need some sleep :p
15:20<mattgun>lol alright i appreciate your help guys
15:20<mattgun>get some sleep agatha ha
15:20<[agatha]>hmm not that i am giving any :p
15:20<mattgun>na you did
15:20<[agatha]>nah can't go yet
15:20<mattgun>different perspectives
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16:21<larens>hello again
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16:47<roman>ÏÐÓ ÎÅ ÔÕÄÁ, ×ÓÅÍ ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ!
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16:48<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @
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17:08<garu>hi everyone
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17:15<lee>Hello, I was wondering if I can get some help on where I go to activate my Nvida card so that This thing will download its drivers
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17:17<dpkg>To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work (if you're using a GeForce 2 or older, ask me about <nvidia_legacy>). drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (
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17:18<carlosmorales>hola alguien en línea
17:19<carlosmorales>Hola hi some one on line
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17:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
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17:23<carlosmorales>Why I get problems installing chess programas
17:25<wnd>how are you trying to install it and what does it say when you do it?
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17:27<carlosmorales>well thks , the problem it doesnt open ,
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17:29<wnd>there is more than one chess game in debian. which one are you talking about?
17:30<wnd>if you didn't install it manuall but it was "just there", which desktop environment are you using? I probably can't help you further there, but that info might help someone else to help you.
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17:31<carlosmorales>ok thks iam talking about the fics programs : gnu chess,jin.eboard,etc
17:31<carlosmorales>means chess programs for linux
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17:32<carlosmorales>winboard never works even it come with ubuntu
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17:34<carlosmorales>Please another point is: how I can install the cube desktop
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17:36<carlosmorales>someone can helpme to know how install the desktop cube
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17:40<carlosmorales>Alex habla usted español?
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17:41<miksuh>any idea if flashplugin-nonfree will come to lenny?
17:41<miksuh>it's in unstable
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17:41<miksuh>afaik flashplugin-nonfree installs script which downloads flash 10
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17:43<carlosmorales>Alguien que me diga como instalar el cubo de escritorio para linux, ya instale los settings de compiz pero nada.....
17:44<padski>!adobe flash
17:44<dpkg>Adobe Flash Player is non-free and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree (sid or or flashplayer-mozilla ( Adobe doesn't provide security support for flash except to upgrade to the latest version, so Adobe Flash cannot be in a stable release or testing (see See also <non-free> <bpo> <adobe flash testing> <dmm> <nspluginwrapper>
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18:26<Steffan>I've just setup a debian server, I was wondering, what is the point of groups <concerning adduser>.
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18:26<Steffan>What would creating different groups achieve?
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18:28<Cyorxamp>OK, so I've got my lenny CD1 installed on my lappy, my wifi driver is loaded... without using network-manager (which doesn't come on cd1) how do I go about connecting to a WPA2 PSK network?
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18:33<Cyorxamp>even the howto goes on about using WEP and getting network-manager... yet the installer only supported WEP
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18:56<rodrigues>como ir pro debian do brasil direto
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18:58<rodrigues>como faço
19:00<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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19:01<Txt-file>!tell rodrigues about wifi
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19:02<cyberick>hello everyone.
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19:13<developer>anyone knows what does mean DSS validation?
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19:27<What-s_my>developer, don't have a context. This could mean Decision System Scheme (does it exists?), or Digital Signature System (found on Google), what else...
19:27<What-s_my>Digital Signature s/System/Service/
19:28<developer>i am using a WMS gaming slot machine
19:28<developer>but i did something wrong
19:28<developer>and it shows me DSS validation failed
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19:28<developer>that machine has been developed with red hat
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19:57<saurus>Anyone here knows "Emesene"?
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19:58<saurus>an MSN messenger client for linux
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20:00<saurus>its made on phyton, and i am having problems with it. it cant "request Membership list ", and freezes
20:00<saurus>it freezes
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20:07<leathalduck>Does anybody know which server the #gnome channel is on?
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20:09<leathalduck>I'm told it's on I'm using XChat, and I dont think it supports that naming format
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20:14<dpkg>i heard gnome is a Desktop Environment, (a "DE", and so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) - see a little dwarf, or a race in D&D, see #gnome-debian on, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome>, or the human G-nome, or ask me about <gnome status>.
20:14<dpkg>hmm... qotd90 is <rituraj> which disks have probs? sata? <directhex|work> rituraj, whatever's in my laptop, and i've heard people with i915 desktops failing installation <jim> then buy a controller put it in the pci slot and be done with it <directhex|work> jim, what a fucking useless waste of time and money for all concerned <directhex|work> jim, and handily, there are hundreds of pci disk controllers for laptops, aren't there
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20:15<enouf>talk about bad timing :-P
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20:26<pmate>hi all, i am running debian on eeepc 701 4g. Has anyone experimented rtcwake to work on eeepc?
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20:47<What-s_my>I have some nfs shared files, when ISF changes server's public IP address, any 'ls' command freezes (it hangs); I restart 'networking', but it seems its not enough... Is there some other service I should restart?
20:49<What-s_my>in fact : /server's /ISF's box/, but it's the same server's address changes, and it seems nfs can't reach nfs server's share...
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20:58<What-s_my>what's best litterature on a Debian system to fix this?
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21:01<What-s_my>that's painfull to have to restart all systems to have all fixed...
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21:01<h2>is there a dedicated channel for debian installer bugs?
21:01<h2>it's buggy
21:03<h2>but I don't want to go offtopic here, I know debian was looking for feedback, and I'm about to do 3-6 test installs of each branch/32/64 bit versions, if I can get past the bugs
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21:12<What-s_my>I like this (don't be offended, unless you know), almost 350 people gathered, and not knowing, or napping... This happen s|ed ^^
21:13<What-s_my>Is there something obvious I missed?
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21:22<h2>What-s_my: most irc channels are probably made up of 10 or less core people who probably answer a bulk of the questions, and these people I assume also have other things in their lives
21:23<craigevil>#debian on freenode always has more people, if you dont get an answer here go there
21:23<h2>craigevil: overall I've had good luck here
21:23<h2>but it's the weekend
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21:26<GoinEasy9>h2: is where one is directed to report bugs
21:26<h2>ah, there
21:26<h2>hmm, a mailing list
21:27<h2>no, I'll pass thanks
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21:29<What-s_my>h2, indeed. xchat shows on this "debian" chanel '337 total'; aren't they people (less bots?)?
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21:31<What-s_my>h2, did you on cd-installer see if there's an IRC channel?
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21:32<h2>What-s_my: I use the businesscard installer
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21:32<h2>there's not a lot of extra information in there, though the installer itself, were it working, would be decent, and has fixed some bugs from the last release I tried, though some remain
21:32<siniestro>estoy instalando el driver nvidia
21:32<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
21:32<h2>and some new ones are found, but I guess I'll look for the bugs online and see if I can work around them
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21:41<h2>What-s_my: re people on irc channels, they tend to just login, then do other things, aka: real life. I do that with my irc channel too, I only check it rarely
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21:44<What-s_my>h2, i don't: when I'm in; I mean to be helpfull (as I'm able to), other wise(d) I log off.
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21:48<What-s_my>h2, there's no inbetweens for me. if I login I want to be helpfull (most of the time I don't know, and I learn)
21:49<h2>What-s_my: I track the stuff
21:49<h2>other times I'll scan it real quick to see if there was anything interesting to be learned, which there often is
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21:54<What-s_my>h2, this means i didn't flood your question; just nobody was speaking... well, you and me, but none of us has the answer to each other's
21:55<h2>What-s_my: this is very unusual for debian, but I always consider an answer from an irc channel as great when I get it, and great if I get it fast, but fine if I get it later, or not at all, since everyone is free to spend their time the way they see most productive
21:56<h2>but debian is usually more chatty than it's being now, but that's great, it means people have other things to do, which I'm all for
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22:01<What-s_my>h2, is it right/wrong to ask here, and go to nntp? (of course to waking up the boogey_lambe ^^)?
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22:02<h2>what's nntp?
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22:04<blackdragon42>How is everyone>
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22:05<h2>well, anyway, off to the salt mines
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22:06<blackdragon42>It's been years since I've been on IRC.
22:06<What-s_my>h2, sorry, it's seems simple to use: you ask a question and you wait someone's more than this...u'll see
22:07<nirmalh>Hi h2
22:07<What-s_my>blackdragon42, and?
22:07<blackdragon42>Just nice to be back, I guess...
22:09<What-s_my>blackdragon42, of course all of your comments are related to Debian...
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22:10<blackdragon42>Of course.
22:14<What-s_my>h2, can't be some bots using IRC as they're flesh listenners?
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22:15<goodger>What-s_my: h2 left ten minutes ago
22:16<blackdragon42>It's quiet in here...
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22:18<What-s_my>goodger, right, didn't see, sry. i'm quite well used to irc/xchat
22:19<What-s_my>oop, i'm not
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22:22<leathalduck>I've got gnome-desktop-environment installed. I've got network-manager-gnome installed. In the System->Preferences->Sessions menu, I have Network Manager checked. The command to send to the daemon is nm-applet --sm-disable
22:22<leathalduck>I've done a iwconfig and can see my ra0 interface. I've done a iwlist ra0 scan and can see my AP and it shows the AP's correct Mac.
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22:22<leathalduck>On my top panel I have a Network Connection icon. In there, the connection Name is ra0, Status keeps flicking from Idle to Receiving (never Sending). Signal strength shows 51%.
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22:22<leathalduck>How do I view the network manager applet to select my AP, as that's what I did last install?
22:23<leathalduck>I've installed on a EeePC 901. When I boot the system I get this...
22:23<leathalduck>Listening on LPF/ra0/00:22:43:00:df:fd
22:23<leathalduck>Sending on LPF/ra0/00:22:43:00:df:fd
22:23<leathalduck>Sending on Socket/fallbaack
22:23<leathalduck>DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to port 67 interval 8
22:23<leathalduck>DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to port 67 interval 14
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22:27<leathalduck>Can someone please help?
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22:34<blarson>I don't do popups. Why don't you just log in as root and use iwconfig and ifup? (control-alt-f2 will get you a login screen if X is hung)
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22:35<helpmeeee>hi guys, i've got a problem i fucked up my /boot parition and now i can't boot. i got myself a knoppix live dvd, but when i try to chroot i it says cannot run command `/bin/sh': Exec format error. Any tips how can i fix my boot?
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22:37<blarson>helpmeeee: Sounds like more than /boot is messed up.
22:37<gsimmons>leathalduck: The rt2860sta driver is also buggy. See for workarounds.
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22:38<helpmeeee>blarson: it might be the fact that the /bin/bash is amd64 rather then i686
22:38<helpmeeee>so, yeah i need to fix my initrd
22:39<helpmeeee>i made a stupid decition awhile ago... having a /boot and having it rather small
22:39<helpmeeee>on ext2
22:39<goodger>how small?
22:40<helpmeeee>goodger: something along 25Mb
22:41<goodger>that's a bit small
22:41<blackdragon42>Wow. That is small.
22:41<helpmeeee>what's the recommended size?
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22:41<helpmeeee>yeah, my own fualt :)
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22:43<goodger>I don't know
22:43<goodger>about 150M is plenty
22:43<helpmeeee>heh, i guess :)
22:43<helpmeeee>i'm sued from the days of freebsd
22:43<goodger>I have my /boot integrated into the root partition, I only use two OSs and the other's windows
22:44<blackdragon42>I use between 100 MB and 120 MB for /root
22:44<blackdragon42>What bootloader do you have?
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22:44<helpmeeee>i have grub
22:45<helpmeeee>even though i'm used to lilo
22:45<goodger>blackdragon42: I mean /, not /root
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22:45<goodger> / is called root
22:45<duane>y comp isn't recognizing cds???
22:46<helpmeeee>so any pointers on how to fix my boot?
22:46<blackdragon42>But remember there is a /root directory.
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22:46<goodger>there is a difference between root and /root
22:46<helpmeeee>okay, i guess not
22:47<goodger>helpmeeee: wait a sec
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22:48<goodger>the knoppix CD is i386, yes?
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22:48<goodger>you can't chroot into an amd64 system with an i386 kernel running
22:48<helpmeeee>that's what i figured :)
22:48<goodger>you need to find an amd64 knoppix
22:48<goodger>or debian live
22:48<goodger>or whichever you like
22:49<helpmeeee>yeah. figured
22:49<helpmeeee>any other options?
22:49<blackdragon42>That's all I can think of.
22:49<goodger>reinstall debian?
22:49<helpmeeee>goodger: not a good one. need to backup lots of work
22:49<goodger>next time install with separate / and /home partitions
22:50<blackdragon42>Make backups if you can.
22:50<goodger>...and back up
22:50<helpmeeee>goodger: yeah. how much / need?
22:50<goodger>10G will usually be enough
22:50<goodger>it depends what you install
22:51<goodger>my system has a fairly diverse range of packages and is using 6G
22:51<blackdragon42>How large is the partition you are using?
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22:52<leathalduck>blarson: ifup tells me my interface is already configured, but it hasn't been assigned an IP
22:52<helpmeeee>has ext4 made it into debian yet?
22:53<goodger>helpmeeee: no, the .28 kernel is not yet deemed mature enough IIRC
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22:55<goodger>helpmeeee: of course, it won't appear in stable until squeeze is released, and squeeze hasn't even been created yet...
22:56<blarson>leathalduck: If it's an essid problem, use iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever". (if wlan0 is your wireless card)
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22:56<blarson>Then ifdown and ifup
22:57<blarson>iwlist wlan0 scan will work on some cards to show available essids.
22:57<helpmeeee>goodger: okay, thanks for ideas, and info. i'll poke around a little more and see if i can make a sense out of the grub
22:57<helpmeeee>and initrd
22:58<blackdragon42>Hope it works for you...
22:58<leathalduck>blarson: what will that do?
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23:00<helpmeeee>hrm... i might be in luck
23:00<helpmeeee>i made a copy of /boot at some point
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23:02<helpmeeee>let's give it a shot
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23:10<debam>hi to all,i have taken svn debian-cd package in that there is no file named as debian-installer+kernel
23:11<debam>from where this new package is taking info about udeb,base packages?
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23:11<helpmeee>alright... i got booted :)
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23:11<helpmeee>so, can someone point me now in direction of UUID in grub vs /dev/Xda#?
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23:13<leathalduck>Where is wpa_supplicant supposed to go? I have 3 of them on my file system
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23:19<helpmeee>what do you guys recomend, uuids in grub vs /dev/sdxx?
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23:25<gsimmons>leathalduck: If you're establishing a configuration file, it can be anywhere, as you're required to reference its location through the wpa-conf or wpa-roam /e/n/i options. /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf is typically used.
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23:27<leathalduck>gsimmons: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf is typically used to do the referencing?
23:29<debam>Can't open exclude file /opt/bosscd/tmp/lenny/tasks//usr/share/debian-cd/tasks/exclude-lenny: No such file or directory
23:29<debam>is any changes require to be done in debian-cd
23:31<gsimmons>leathalduck: No, that's where user-supplied configuration for wpa_supplicant goes. You specify its location in /etc/network/interfaces; /msg dpkg WPA
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23:42<debam>hi to all,can you tell me why this error i am getting in debian-cd Can't open exclude file /opt/bosscd/tmp/lenny/tasks//usr/share/debian-cd/tasks/exclude-lenny: No such file or directory
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23:53<leathalduck>gsimmons: Um Whats the /msg dpkg WPA for? do I put this wpa-conf or wpa-roam /e/n/i options in /etc/network/interfaces?
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23:55<gsimmons>leathalduck: It's a command for your IRC client. See also with respect to the relevant README file for your Debian version.
23:56<leathalduck>blarson: Doesn't this suggest that the interface is sending, but not getting acks?
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