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---Logopened Mon Mar 09 00:00:41 2009
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00:07<kop>tcsetattr : The python way is to fork twice, wait only on the outer child but do the work on the inner child.
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00:15<tcsetattr>you'll get a lot of screwy ideas if you try to learn basic process semantics from python docs alone...
00:16<kop>tcsetattr : I asked in #python on freenode.
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00:19<kop>tcsetattr : Although, yes, why not just ignore sigchild? ....
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00:19<nsa_fiend>scenario: a bunch of text (.txt) files in a directory. i want to open them all with kedit, but i want to open them say, 20 at a time.
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00:20<kop>nsa_fiend : xargs
00:20<nsa_fiend>the first 20, then the next time the second group of 20... is that possible?
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00:22<nsa_fiend>kop: not sure xargs would work for this scenario
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00:46<bighornram>how do i reinstall a package from commandline, to replace a missing file within that given package?
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00:47<nsa_fiend>aptitude reinstall <package
00:47<nsa_fiend>aptitude reinstall <package>
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00:47<nsa_fiend>sudo aptitude reinstall <package>
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00:47<bighornram>got it
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00:51<bighornram>nsa_fiend: thanks for the tip, back in business. have a good night, or day where ever you are.
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01:20<meshuggah>how are you?
01:23<dpkg>Test Failed.
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02:00<memnon>Hi. I just installed a notification add on for my irc client. Could someone say my name please, so I see if it is working? thx ;)
02:01<Supaplex>dpkg: say memnon no, we refuse.
02:01<dpkg>memnon no, we refuse.
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02:01<memnon>thx, works fine ;)
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02:02<memnon>sorry, ot, I am off to bed ...
02:02<Supaplex>it's okay. good night =)
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02:02<Supaplex><<-- a tease
02:02<memnon>got it ;) n8
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02:03*goodger should be waking up in two hours...
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02:06<sun>hi how do i do a screen capture? im running x and iceweasel, and there's a java applet that makes a diagram that i want to put on my blog, but its in flash.
02:06<Supaplex>sun: ksnapshot works for me.
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02:08<jm_>!tell sun -about sshot
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02:10<ml>wow xmonad rocks :D
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02:17<sun>thanks supaplex and jm_. im a fan of imagemagick and i got it working with import -window etc.
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02:50<burbuja>hi, which iso-images I need to install debian, please?
02:50<burbuja>there are 31 isos
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02:50<burbuja>I hope 3 - 5
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02:52<burbuja>cahoot: is it for me?
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02:53<burbuja>ok, thank. Could you tell me, what is there in these 30 isos?
02:54<burbuja>very simple
02:54<cahoot>all 15000 progs for all archs + source
02:54<goodger>burbuja: all of debian is in those 30 isos. the netinst iso downloads only what is needed
02:55<burbuja>goodger: thank you as well. so netinstall is the recomanded way to install debian?
02:55<cahoot>the most economical anyway
02:56<burbuja>net install uses apt-get ?
02:56<burbuja>or wget
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02:57<burbuja>ok, thank you
02:57<jm_>it installs the base from CD, then you install the rest using apt
02:59<burbuja>I expected there would be an hdd-installer on the live-CD, but it does not seems so
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03:03<chitchat>Hello. Can anyone please tell me how, under Debian Lenny, which package I should install to get the GCC man pages like strcpy?
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03:04<jm_>manpages-dev manpages-posix-dev - and it's not a gcc man page
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03:06<chitchat>Hey, thanks jm_!
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03:08<chitchat>I have another question in relation to Lenny: apt-get install mplayer does not seem to install mencoder. Am I doing something wrong?
03:09<goodger>chitchat: you need to install mencoder separately
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03:10<chitchat>goodger: I assumed that the two were combined like on other distros and the man page appears to indicate it. But I did try aptitude search mencoder and nothing comes up. Am I missing a repository?
03:10<goodger>maybe, let's poke it
03:11<jm_>d-m has mencoder
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03:12<goodger>mm, looks like mencoder is only found in dm
03:12<chitchat>jm_: pardon the newbie question, but what do I add where under Debian? You can obviously tell I'm used to something else :-)
03:13<goodger>!lett chitchat about debian-multimedia
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03:13<goodger>!tell chitchat about debian-multimedia
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03:23<HellTiger>!tell helltiger about debian-multimedia
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03:23<jm_>!tell HellTiger -about selftell
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03:24<HellTiger>ok. :]
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03:29<chitchat>goodger and jm_: Thank you so much for your help. Life is good again :-)
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03:29<goodger>that's ok
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03:41<ml>anyone around that know xmonad?
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03:51<Glanzmann>Hello; I would like to install Debian Lenny from a USB Stick. What is the fastest way to accomplish that?
03:52<Glanzmann>Modifying netboot?
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03:53<Glanzmann>I think so.
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03:58<cahoot>as described here?
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04:05<jm_>installation guide explains how to put installer on an USB drive
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04:21<vader897500>hmm, i have a question...
04:21<vader897500>does anyone know of an easy way to generate a html page which lists all the files in some folder?
04:22<jm_>apache has built-in mechanism for that
04:22<jm_>(or rather, a module)
04:22<vader897500>I am trying to achieve an online catalog of all my movies i have...
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04:28<badguy>hi ;)
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04:31<cahoot>feeling lonely?
04:31<absolutelymster>oh yeah
04:31<absolutelymster>soooo lonely
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04:32<eluveitie>tom biste da???
04:33<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or DE == Desktop Environment
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04:33<eluveitie>hi guys
04:33<azeem>do you have a Debian question?
04:34<eluveitie>why are you so ugly
04:34<absolutelymster>eluveitie shut up your stupid
04:34<jm_>tschuss then
04:34<azeem>absolutelymster: please refrain from ad-hominem attacks
04:36<eluveitie>are you gay
04:36<eluveitie>i am
04:36<absolutelymster>pls bann eluveitie
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04:36<azeem>absolutelymster: done
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04:37<cahoot>azeem: weren't the two the same?
04:37<jm_>two for the price of one
04:37<azeem>cahoot: oops :)
04:37<cahoot>no harm
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05:32<valdyn>vader897: something like that is probably in every second php tutorial
05:33<valdyn>vader897: but your web server can list directories too
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05:38<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
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05:53<fastidio>hi folks
05:53<fastidio>i'm in trouble
05:53<fastidio>i've deleted the .kde4 directory in wich there was my kmail directory
05:53<fastidio>there's a way to recover that directory?
05:54<valdyn>fastidio: no
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05:54<dpkg>i heard backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression), or <lolcat1>
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05:54<dpkg>lolcat1 is probably
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05:55<dpkg>from memory, undeleting is Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" form menu. With ext3fs, see and <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin.
05:57<fastidio>thanks, i'm going to read ext3fs manual
05:57<jm_>read that document first, it's very well written
05:58<fastidio>thanks a lot
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06:22<debam>hi to all,in lenny XDMCP supports shadowing or not?if the thin client detached from the server , can it start from the same point from where the session got discontinued
06:23<jm_>debam: no
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06:23<TMcTrain>I installes usbmount on a fresh Lenny System and mounting an usb-stick works perfect. but is it possible to run a predefined script on the system every time a new usb stick is plugged in?
06:23<Wuawydu>What this channel is about ?
06:23<jm_>TMcTrain: yes
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06:23<@Ganneff>Wuawydu: guess what. Debian.
06:24<Wuawydu>WHat i sDebia ?
06:24<Wuawydu>Some prog, fro progrem!?
06:24<TMcTrain>how can i do this?
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06:24<jm_>you can use udev
06:24<TMcTrain>the script should supposed to be
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06:25<TMcTrain>can you specify your hint?
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06:27<jm_>read Writing udev rules document - just add a rule that matches it and an action for it
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06:27<jm_>it's pretty simple
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06:34<jak>hi, i want to know which file system is better for clustering
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06:36<SAN>hi , i am going to configure the cluster in my debian machine and i saw GFS and GlusterFS
06:37<SAN>which is better or anyother is better
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06:46<jak>hi, anyone tellme . which file system is suited for clustering
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07:01<bruno>ce qualcuno
07:01<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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07:02<bruno>e dove lo trovo
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07:04<bruno>totem non funziona
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07:05<bruno>va be ciao
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07:06<ozdeb>hi, I have a general question about cloning debian with dd. If I completely clone a hard drive with dd, will I still need to install grub later ?
07:07<glance>anyone hahve a clue where i can find a lenny-compatible acenic_tg2.bin ?
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07:10<Mark_>dd works on the mbr
07:11<SAN>hi please give me related cluster packages in debian
07:11<Mark_>but i dont know if what you will want to do will work exactly
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07:13<glance>gsimmons: thanks =)
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07:14<valdyn>ozdeb: no
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07:16<ozdeb>valdyn, so I clone the hard drives, and then install grub manually ?
07:16<rvetrov>всем прива
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07:16<valdyn>ozdeb: no
07:17<koollman>ozdeb: it may work directly. but cloning with dd isn't really great
07:17<koollman>some things can change, like disk size or organizations
07:17<valdyn>ozdeb: I answered "no" to your question
07:17<koollman>and, it's probably the less efficient way to clone a system
07:17<valdyn>its decently efficient
07:17<ozdeb>koollman, than what is efficient ?
07:18<valdyn>depending on how far the disk is filled
07:18<koollman>valdyn: not with recent, big disks.
07:18<koollman>really :)
07:18<valdyn>it can also be vastly faster for tons of small files
07:18<valdyn>and its at least a pretty safe method
07:18<koollman>ozdeb: copying files, by partitions, with some copying tools (ideally the 'dump' equivalent of the filesystem you are using)
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07:19<Mark_>if you have a ton of the same exact drive
07:19<Mark_>you can do it
07:19<koollman>right. for any other purpose, it's rather crappy :)
07:19<And1>Hey folks, what do I need to install to use php's "imagecreatefromjpeg()"?
07:20<valdyn>And1: what does that generate?
07:20<Mark_>you need gd
07:20<And1>valdyn: thumbnails, I think.
07:20<And1>Mark_: php5-gd looks fine, I'll try that.
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07:23<valdyn>cloning the partition table + dd for the mbr + dump + restore is alot more work for *me* than dd
07:23<And1>Mark_, koollman: Hrm, after installing this package it still doesn't work.
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07:24<koollman>And1: restart apache to load the module
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07:25<And1>koollman: Oh, ok. Me silly.
07:25<neoXite>hello, how can i direct udev to recreate a deleted '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' file? thank you for any clues.
07:25<And1>Thanks guys. :)
07:25<neoXite>distro is lenny, forgot to mention that
07:25<Mark_>php has to be built against gd
07:25<valdyn>neoXite: thats automagic on next reboot
07:26<Mark_>let me look how to do it in debian
07:26<neoXite>valdyn: it used to be that way for me, in etch.
07:26<Mark_>ive only done it in redhat and gentoo
07:26<Mark_>k do you have a package available called
07:26<Mark_>apt-get install php5-gd
07:26<neoXite>valdyn: never witnessed it doing so on lenny though.
07:26<petern>that's not quite "built against gd" heh
07:26<And1>Mark_: Yup. After restarting apache it works fine. Thanks. :)
07:27<petern>installing the module is, generally, much simpler :)
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07:27<jm_>neoXite: see 75-persistent-net-generator.rules
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07:27<a>io ho scaricato lxde
07:27<koollman>I hate that file. really. I often forget to remove it after upgrades
07:27<a>sapete com'è
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07:28<neoXite>jm_: i know 75-persistent-net-generator.rules i involved in recreating 70-persistent-net.rules, but i don't know how to trigger recreation
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07:28<valdyn>neoXite: hotplugging the device does
07:29<valdyn>neoXite: that happens on a reboot or on a real hotplug or on a simulated hotplug
07:30<jm_>neoXite: it's done on boot, or module load etc.
07:30<neoXite>valdyn: i might have found the issue, seems like 75-persistent-net-generator.rules in lenny is instructed to ignore Xen NIC's
07:30<jm_>from the file comments:
07:30<jm_># ignore Xen virtual interfaces
07:30<jm_>SUBSYSTEMS=="xen", GOTO="persistent_net_generator_end"
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07:31<neoXite>jm_: exactly.
07:31<neoXite>jm_: gonna try to comment out those lines.
07:31<koollman>that's because usually xen creates it's own devices
07:31<koollman>(in the net startup scripts)
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07:32<neoXite>koollman: i suppose, but i statically assigned a certain MAC to a xen NIC and would like that nic to maintain a functional name like 'wan0' inside the guest-OS
07:34<neoXite>anyway, commenting the ignore-xen stuff out for one reboot did the trick
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07:36<shillelagh>anyone know why a fresh install of Debian 5.0 would not use my monitor's 1024x768 resolution?
07:36<shillelagh>I'm stuck at 800x600 here, even after the nvidia drivers are set up.
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07:37<shillelagh>Used to be I'd just edit the line in my xorg.conf file so it had the resolutions of 640x480 800x600 & 1024x768, but now the xorg.conf file is pretty much empty
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07:40<SAN>please tell me what are the packages are required for clustering
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07:48<SAN>hi anyone know about the cluster
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07:51<gsimmons>glance: np. Out of interest, what AceNIC-based device are you using?
07:51<themill>SAN: cluster of what? disks? databases? simulation nodes? You need to formulate a specific question and searching around to find the right way to ask the question first might help. /msg dpkg ask ; /msg dpkg smart questions
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07:53<glance>gsimmons: 0006:21:01.0 Ethernet controller: Alteon Networks Inc. AceNIC Gigabit Ethernet (rev 01)
07:54<SAN>themill, disk based cluster only
07:54<themill>glance: can you give us the PCI-id? (lspci -nn)
07:54<glance>its a lpar in a p690 that im trying to install debian in.
07:54<themill>judd pciid 12ae:0001
07:54<judd>themill: [12ae:0001] is 'AceNIC Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Alteon Networks Inc.' with kernel module 'acenic' in lenny. See also
07:55<glance>i have actualy no success...
07:55<themill>SAN: I can't help you with that -- I'm just encouraging you to ask questions that will actually get answers.
07:55<glance>the kernel just oopses when i load that driver.
07:55<jm_>try newer kernel/driver
07:56<SAN>thanks themill
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07:57<glance>hmm.. now when i tested, i took the net-install-image for powerpc64, added the acenic.ko and firmware to the initrd and tested
07:58<glance>but that module was from the "ordinary" kernel, and not from the install-kernel.
07:58<glance>anyone know if they are compatible or if its maybe there my fault lays.
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08:02<buffoon_work>glance, are you sure that it isn't enough to just load the firmware?
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08:03<glance>the driver isn't in the netinstaller initramfs.
08:03<buffoon_work>maybe it's compiled into the kernel
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08:05<buffoon_work>But i have actually no idea about D-I. I just remember that the FAI images have the network drivers all compiled in the kernel. Maybe it is the same for the installer images
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08:08<SAN>hi friends, anyone know about the cluster
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08:30<hazim> /msg CineHAwK-27 XDCC SEND #2
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08:31<glance>funny stuff.
08:31<spaztik>hi, does anyone here know if there's a client for nessus that doesn
08:31<spaztik>that doesn't require that X be installed?
08:31<glance>the lenny kernel just oopsed, but i got etch rolling =)
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09:06<zxd>is there a tool for auto generating md5sum in .dsc files?
09:06<zxd>and maybe also generating a key
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09:24<jackie4u254>Hi all ... pls anybody able to help me with network conectivity problem after install Lenny? ... Iam not very experienced, but hope that Iam not a lame ...
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09:27<jackie4u254>Firstly I installed Lenny without any problems, but I installed it on bad partition so I reinstalled and now I can not ping to any outside adress
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09:31<cahoot>not even an IP#?
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09:35<jackie4u254>No - I do not get an IP from DHCP and I can not find it out (google) how to force Lenny to recieve it
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09:36<cahoot>does /sbin/ifconfig show any net device beside lo?
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09:37<jm_>is it configured for dhcp? auto config at boot?
09:37<jackie4u254>yes eth0 and wmaster (I guess) but without the IP adress
09:37<adb>restart the router/switch
09:38<jackie4u254>it should be configured for dhcp
09:38<cahoot>try dhclient eth0
09:38<jm_>should ... but is it?
09:38<jackie4u254>I did ... it should not be a network problem
09:39<adb>it may be , so restart the router/switch
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09:40<ozdeb>a somewhat odd question: How do I know if my raid is working ?
09:40<jackie4u254>I get and DNS and ping router but not outside ... I will try dhclient eth0 and restart router ... be right back
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09:43<pawel>I have old computer, AVR ATmega32 evaluation board and STK200 programmer (LPT). I tried to program this board with UISP and AVRDUDE (with device /dev/parport0), but I always get the same error "Cannot find device". Some photos and output of "ls" command in /dev/ are at Can someone help me?
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09:44<jackie4u254>back ... dhclient does not work, cause not found
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09:46<jackie4u254>can not restart router right now, because Iam at university, but friend installed with me same version (Lenny netinst amd64) in same time without any problem ... so it must be in my laptop
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09:47<jackie4u254>reinstall does not help too
09:47<jackie4u254>any other ideas?
09:47<jm_>you need to figure out if your NIC is working at all
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09:48<pawel>it didn't work in my computer, but after few restarts it started working, chect your /etc/interfaces
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09:49<rene>I've problem with ifupdown.. ex: ifdown eth0
09:49<rene>ifdown : inteface eth0 not configured
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09:49<rene>but with ifconfig work fine
09:49<jackie4u254>if u mean if hardware is ok ... so Iam working now on that laptop on WinXP :-( ... but Iam not familiar with console commands as far to solve it alone :'(
09:50<jm_>rene: don't mix the two
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09:50<jm_>jackie4u254: first identify which NIC/driver it is, then use tools like ethtool to check link status
09:50<adb>pawel: your URL is long ... very
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09:50<jackie4u254>eth0 is up ... in router DHCP clients I see that it gave me IP but in /sbin/ifconfig -a can not see that adress
09:50<adb>2-3 min and nothing
09:51<Syd>anyone here use Debian's drupal6 package? should I expect to see updates available?
09:51<rene>¬¬ waiting ...
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09:51<pawel>adb: I can't do anyshing with that :)
09:52<pawel>do you know how to solve this problem?
09:52<jm_>you could check with tcpdump if it receives anything
09:52<adb>pawel: i don't even know what it is as computer
09:53<jm_>pawel: make sure you have parport drivers loaded
09:53<jackie4u254>will try ... brb
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09:53<pawel>I don't know
09:53<jm_>check /proc/sys/dev/parport
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09:53<pawel>how to load them?
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09:55<pawel>just modprobe <enter>
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09:55<pawel>is this that easy?
09:55<jm_>no, you need to specify module name
09:55<pawel>modprobe parport
09:56<jm_>and then try loading parport_pc module after that
09:56<rene>@jm_ but /etc/init.d/networking use ifupdown
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09:56<jm_>rene: yes of course, but you are not supposed to mix ifconfig and ifupdown tools
09:57<pawel>thanks. I'll try.
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10:00<rene>so, why "/etc/init.d/networking start" not start up my interfaces ?
10:00<jm_>are they configured in interfaces file? set to auto?
10:01<Warp4>rene, does ifconfig give you any info?
10:01<jm_>paste your interfaces file and the output of 'ifup -a' on pastebin
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10:01<jm_>and check what 'ls /sys/clas/net' says
10:01<paul0>i've tried to run compiz and the avant-window-navigador
10:01<paul0>but seems that i don't have xgl, weird
10:01<LL00>I installed bind9, how I can setup for not autolaunch it after reboot without remove it? remove the symlink in rc2.d ? any other way like on *BSD, just edit flag in rc.conf.local?
10:02<paul0>i've ran compiz in this machine another day
10:02<jm_>LL00: man update-rc,.d explains how to do it
10:02<LL00>ok thx
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10:02<jm_>uhm 'man update-rc.d'
10:02<jm_>LL00: especially pay attention to this part: A common system administration error is to delete the links
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10:05<LL00>that's why I'm asking this question :)
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10:08<jackie4u254>So Iam sorry I do not have eth0 if in /sbin/ifconfig -a
10:08<jackie4u254>it is wlan0 and wmaster ... eth0 dissapeared
10:08<jm_>right, which NIC is it? is it wireless?
10:09<jackie4u254>wlan is propably but Iam using wired connection only
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10:09<gsimmons>jackie4u254: What brand/model is the laptop you are using?
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10:09<jm_>ok, lspci -nn will show your devices (unless it's an ISA card)
10:12<jackie4u254>and ... let me explain ... when I installed business iso it downloaded and installed the base system with kernel etc... after apt configuration my network unable to connect and in aptitude I see that I have only base packages (so tcpdump and others a do not have installed)
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10:13<jm_>yeah that looks like driver is not working/available for it
10:14<jackie4u254>so I will check lspci -nn and
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10:19<TMcTrain>in which file can i change or add dircolours
10:20<zxd>is there a command better than dpkg -l , that will list all packages installed but only the package name
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10:22<paul0>i'm having problems with Xgl, compiz doesn't run
10:22<adb>ask #compiz
10:23<adb>on freenode
10:23<paul0>ok, thanks
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10:25<jm_>TMcTrain: wherever you want, you can import it in your shell init file using eva; $(dircolors foo)
10:25<jm_>doh, my typing is even more useless today
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10:26<LL00>how I can check if the manpage of update-rc.d is UTF or not ?
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10:27<TMcTrain>i want to ad a color for a special extension
10:27<TMcTrain>or change color for gif :-)
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10:27<jm_>type dircolors to get an idea for the format
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10:28<LL00>'man ls' I got accent, but 'man update-rc.d' I got weird chars instead of accents
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10:29<jackie4u>Hi ... so I have tried lspci but the command was not found either
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10:30<themill>LL00: you could send it through recode or iconv to change the encoding to UTF-8 and see if it's different. Or look at it in a hex editor and see if the code point is right for the character that it should be.
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10:30<jackie4u>Which file/log you will need to check if NIC driver is correct and where could be a problem?
10:30<TMcTrain>the format istsn't the problem, its the file or way to change or ad this! :-)
10:31<jackie4u>I hope that I could upload it to
10:32<LL00>hum themill I don't kno whow to use iconv
10:33<themill>LL00: man iconv; but using a hexeditor would be easier.
10:34<LL00>1st I need to locate where is the file of the manpages for update-rc.d
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10:34<LL00>got it
10:34<themill>LL00: "locate update-rc.d" :)
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10:37<LL00>themill, what about zcat /usr/share/man/fr/man8/update-rc.d.8.gz
10:37<themill>LL00: that will show you the file, but won't necessarily tell you the encoding.
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10:38<LL00>I read some accents for some lines and wierd chars for other lines
10:38<gsimmons>jackie4u254: The /var/log/dmesg file would assist. Again, what brand/model is the laptop you are using?
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10:39<themill>!dbugs 499863
10:39<jackie4u>it is Asus F3JC no problem with other distros
10:39<dpkg>#499863:M[sysv-rc] sysv-rc: update-rc.d(8) french manpage badly encoded (l10n patch); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:06:01 UTC []
10:39<themill>LL00: ^^
10:39<LL00>so it's a bug?
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10:40<themill>LL00: Quite. One that's been around for a bit and even has a patch to fix it. It will get fixed one day... if it's a real problem for you, then you could apply the patch that's in the bug to fix the man page.
10:42<LL00>is it easy to patch it?
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10:42<LL00>I got the patch link
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10:43<josea>hola buenos dias a todos
10:43<josea>hi all
10:43<LL00>if it's not easy, I will learn how to patch another day
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10:43<LL00>I can read this manpages in english
10:44<LL00>or this man from web site
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10:44<josea>LL00> hi
10:44<LL00>hi josea
10:44<josea>LL00> you speaking spanish?
10:44<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
10:44<themill>LL00: it's not going to be that easy to patch because the patch also touches some other files....
10:44<Dorin>yo se español
10:45<josea>Dorin> holaa que suerte tengo
10:45<LL00>themill, ok, I give up to patch for the moment
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10:45<Dorin>de donde eres josea ?
10:45<themill>LL00: yeah, if you can either cope in english or look on the web, then that will be much easier
10:45<josea>Dorin> de Peru, tengo problemas serios con ldap :(
10:45<themill>Dorin, josea: Por favor /join #debian-es.
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10:46<josea>Dorin> en debian-es estan dormidos todos
10:46<LL00>if I patch it, it's just to learn how to do that
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10:46<Dorin>yo soy de España:D
10:46<josea>Dorin> puedo mandarte un privado para no interrumpir en la sala?
10:46<LL00>right now I have alot other things to leanr before patching manpages
10:46<jackie4u>I can read some info from /var/log/dmesg file directly from my laptop ... if anybody have a time for me to help - because Iam not able to upload it right now
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10:47<kevin>How do I get Debian Lenny's xorg to recognize that I have a widescreen?
10:47<Gun_Smoke>buy it a beer
10:47<TMcTrain>ok i'm dumb! I can read out the colors with dircolors -b / -p ... but how can I get the updated colors back?
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10:53<kevin>Does anyone here know how to get 1366x768 resolution in Lenny?
10:54<mibman>kevin: Isn't there resolution tool under system> Preference?
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10:54<cahoot>kevin: xrandr -q doesn't list it?
10:55<kevin>mibman: Yes. It's not listed though. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg, but no dice.
10:55<kevin>cahoot: No, it doesn't.
10:55<mibman>Hmm. Yeah. It isn't listed.
10:55<cahoot>kevin: resort to creating a modeline with gtf?
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10:56<kevin>cahoot: Not familiar with those terms. What are/is they/that?
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11:00<And1>Why do I have ( and) in my /etc/hosts?
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11:01<dpkg>it has been said that why is
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11:03<And1>How would a third address look like? org
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11:07<mohloven>mohammed egypt
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11:08<And1>gsimmons: When I have "" in my /etc/hosts, then this domain links to my pc-ip, but when others in the same network ping the domain, do they get a response from my pc or from the interweb?
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11:20<pawel>I have old computer, AVR ATmega32 evaluation board and STK200 programmer (LPT). I tried to program this board with UISP and AVRDUDE (with device /dev/parport0), but I always get the same error "Cannot open device /dev/parport0: No such file or directory". I executed "modprobe parport && modprobe parport_pc" but the same error appears. Photos and output of "ls /dev/ > ls_dev_with_parport.txt" are at Can someone hel
11:20<pawel>p me?
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11:40<prosis>J'ai une question qui concerne les réseaux je peux la poser?
11:40<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on
11:40<prosis>Oh hi then
11:41<adb>hi, just ask
11:41<prosis>Thanks :)
11:42<prosis>Well I have to seperate network cards, one with an internal IP address through a router and one connected directly on the internet with a ISP given IP
11:43<prosis>The machine serves as a web server
11:43<prosis>So I need the external IP to be taken buy default to connect to the internet
11:43<prosis>But right now it uses the internal IP
11:43<prosis>Which results in the host being available from my LAN but not elsewhere
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11:45<adb>cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
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11:46<adb>prosis: ^^^
11:46<prosis>Yes sorry
11:47<prosis>You want me to copy the result of this?
11:47<adb>paste result here
11:47<prosis>That's all I have
11:47<adb>so its ok
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11:48<prosis>Oh good then
11:48<prosis>So what can be the problem?
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11:49<adb>i'm not sure to understand where is the problem
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11:50<weasel>for t in nat mangle filter; do iptables -t $t -vnL; done
11:50<weasel>paste that output somewhere (not here)
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11:51<adb>sure , as root ;)
11:51<prosis>I get a syntax error near unexpected token 'do'
11:52<adb>do it all in one line
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11:52<prosis>I did :P
11:54<prosis>Ok I put it in a text file and ran it through Bash
11:54<prosis>I got a result
11:54<prosis>Then what? :P
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11:55<ahmed>hello , is there is any time organization programs in ubuntu ?
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11:55<adb>!tell prosis about paste
11:55<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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11:58<weasel>eth1 is the interface to the internet?
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12:00<weasel>and your filter and mangle tables are a mess.
12:00<weasel>and drop as a policy sucks
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12:00<prosis>I know nothing about these things, if I configured them I didn't mean it lol
12:00<prosis>But yes the eth1 is the external address
12:00<prosis>That much I know
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12:01<prosis>what can I do to clean this up?
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12:04<prosis>Can I reset IPTables?
12:04<prosis>Oh iptables --flush
12:04<prosis>Should I do this?
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12:06<adb>its depends , maybe save it before for further reads
12:07<prosis>How can I save it, is it a file?
12:08<adb> for t in nat mangle filter; do iptables -t $t -vnL; done > iptabs
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12:08<jelly>prosis: "iptables-save" command dumps the complete current state of iptables to its standard output, redirect that to a file.
12:08<jelly>adb: ew.
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12:08<adb>err ...
12:09<jelly>prosis: use iptables-restore < thatfile to get back htat config
12:09<prosis>Oh cool, I'll try it (so it's possible that I get disconnected I think so sorry, I'll be back :P)
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12:18<Glanzmann>Hello; Can the Lenny Debian installer, resize NTFS?
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12:19<dpkg>one warez list being sent to davide
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12:21<stew>davide: why do you type "!list"? what are you hoping would happen?
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12:23<zxd>is there a clean way to list installed packages
12:24<ansgar>zxd: dpkg -l
12:24<zxd>ansgar, without all the other fields
12:24<stew>zxd: aptitude search -F%p '~i'
12:24<stew>dpkg -l will list packages which aren't installed
12:24<dpkg>No packages found matching will list packages which aren't installed
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12:27<prosis>Hello again?
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12:28<prosis>weasel, adb still there?
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12:28<themill>stew: it's definitely a .it thing.... I'd love to know the story behind it too ;)
12:29<stew>themill: incidentally, it doesn't seem to happen in #debian-it
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12:31<fxiny>amphi: DragPane is giving me hard time with screen , this one seems better : myLayoutHook = avoidStruts ( magicFocus (Mirror (Tall 1 (3/100) (1/2)) ||| Full))
12:32<fxiny>amphi: Mirror Tall is Wide
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12:33<fxiny>amphi: the i found a way to shrink slaves panes only with the keyboard : ResizableTile
12:33<espana>Hello all !
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12:36<prosis>If I have two network cards, one through a router that is connected to the internet and one directly connected to the internet, how can I tell the machine to use the direct connection and not the router connection?
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12:39<lemonzest>hola :)
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12:50<valdyn>prosis: route shows a default route or more than 1 default route, the first default route is where packets go
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13:25<amphi>fxiny: cool - I'll check 'em out; did you try Layouts.Accordion? ;)
13:25<fxiny>amphi: yes
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13:25<fxiny>amphi: and layout combinator
13:25<amphi>fxiny: I find I use tabbed or full mainly, and float for my jackery
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13:26<amphi>yeah, layout combinator looks interesting
13:26<fxiny>amphi: i need magic focus for emacs
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13:27<fxiny>amphi: two horizontal panes + magicFocus makes pasting in emacs a breeze
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13:28<Belial>wuhu! lenny! it works!
13:29<fxiny>it works++
13:29<Belial>i am so glad :-)
13:29<amphi>fxiny: my poor xmobar is stuffed ;0
13:29<amphi>er, ;)
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13:29<fxiny>amphi: why ? pulling wheater ? :)
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13:31<fxiny>amphi: very handy : i managed to freeze a couple of times while wild setting xmonad.hs , xmobar displaying swap going 100% saves me :)
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13:34<fxiny>amphi: i keep it on the bottom and i use nice shiny fonts : Config { font = "-xos4-terminus-bold-*-*-*-*-200-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15"
13:34<fxiny>don't hmm at terminus fonts !
13:34<petern>i really need to switch my system back to debian :o
13:34<amphi>fxiny: I keep it on the top, that's where dmenu comes also
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13:35<fxiny>amphi: i do : , position = Bottom
13:35<fxiny>dmenu on the top
13:35<fxiny>amphi: added , Run StdinReader ?
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13:36<fxiny>without it freezes
13:36<amphi>uhuh - I like dmenu to overlay xmobar, and both at the top
13:36<fxiny>ok , Ctrl b then
13:36<amphi>I have StdiReader
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13:37<fxiny>amphi: first day i didn't know . googled for key collisions .thought it was emacs or icewilly
13:37<fxiny>that's all i use : mrxvt emacs and icewilly
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13:38<fxiny>no damed icons , no clicks , no stress : i will die 120 years old :)))
13:38<fxiny>running debian 21 :)))
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13:39<amphi>fxiny: BTW, 8.1 is not far off testing it seems; do you reckon after installing, recompiling xmonad.hs & modm+q will load the new xmonad?
13:39<amphi>fxiny: heheh
13:39<fxiny>amphi: i use xmobar-0.9.tar.gz
13:40<fxiny>aahh you mean xmonad ?
13:40<amphi>fxiny: yes
13:40<fxiny>no idea , i stick to official lenny version
13:40<ml>i'm on xmonad
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13:40<amphi>fxiny: yeah, I use the same xmobar version
13:40<amphi>ml: isn't it _gorgeous_ ? ;)
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13:41<ml>yes :0
13:41<ml>trying to get things going
13:41<fxiny>ml: good : i have something for you in my beggar bag , you asked for gnome yesterday , here you are :
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13:42<fxiny>amphi: i failed to darcs patch it for load average
13:42<ml>thanks fxiny
13:42<fxiny>i hda to learn how to darc pathc :P
13:42<fxiny>ml: np
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13:42*ml not going to used it with gnome tho
13:43<amphi>fxiny: script? that's what I did here for battery and wifi link quality
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13:43<fxiny>amphi: yes ? lemme magnify it , what fonts are you using ?
13:44<amphi>deja vu sans mono 10 if I recall correctly
13:44<fxiny>amphi: i've sen it :)
13:45<ml>i'm trying to configure xmobar with_xft, but I need to figure out how to X11-xft
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13:45<fxiny>amphi: battery is nice , xmobar beats any konq* things
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13:45<fxiny>amphi: is a pity is not debianized
13:45<amphi>fxiny: thank ghod for sysfs
13:45<fxiny>yes !
13:46<amphi>I could fill xmobar with battery info alone ;)
13:46<fxiny>amphi: :)
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13:47<fxiny>amphi: i feel sorry for point and click desktops users , sooooo sorry :))
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13:47<fxiny>last century technology :P
13:47<amphi>fxiny: poor enouf ;)
13:47<fxiny>amphi: where is he ?
13:47<fxiny>enouf: hey !
13:48<amphi>his client is here...
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13:48<fxiny>ml: any major freeze while ghci compiling ? :)
13:48<amphi>fxiny: you're tracking testing, or just sitting down with lenny?
13:49<fxiny>be prepares for ssh commection and x combo killing
13:49<ml>at first but got help at #xmonad
13:49<fxiny>ml: you been there ?
13:49<ml>i'm trying to get xmobar going
13:49<ml>im'there :)
13:49<fxiny>amphi: lenny . i do not even thing testing
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13:50<fxiny>ml: grab at will , then we share beggars bags :=)
13:51<fxiny>amphi: you already squeezing ?
13:51<amphi>fxiny: aye
13:51<ml>I'm :)
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13:51<fxiny>amphi: no way , i like stable
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13:53<magyar_>hi, is lenny mysql install has by default three ANY accounts set?
13:54<magyar_>Any % -- USAGE
13:54<magyar_>Any localhost No USAGE
13:54<magyar_>Any No USAGE
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13:55<magyar_>I never seen this on Etch install
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13:59<ml>fxiny: amphi: did u guys configure xmobar "with_xft"
13:59<ml>* you :P
13:59<fxiny>ml: nope , i'm planning to look into it
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14:00<fxiny>i want load average
14:00<amphi>ml: yes
14:00<amphi>I had to grab the haskell x11-xft stuff
14:00<ml>fxiny: it needs some dependancies
14:00<ml>amphi: yes
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14:01<ml>amphi: I built X11-xft, how do get xmobar to see it?
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14:02<amphi>ml: did you install it properly? ie. [sudo] ./Setup.lhs install
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14:03<ml>amphi: no wasn't sure what to do next
14:03<ml>so install it as root correct?
14:03<amphi>ml: ./Setup.lhs --help is quite, er... helpful ;)
14:03<ml>lol duh
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14:05<amphi>fxiny: BTW, I lied earlier ;) I'm using "-misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
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14:06<ml>amphi: thanks got xmobar setup now to build
14:06<fxiny>amphi: too small for my half-blind right eye ;)
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14:06<fxiny>amphi: i use terminus everywhere
14:06<amphi>fxiny: heh - remember I'm on a 1024x768 12" panel here
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14:07<ml>fxiny: terminus ftw :)
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14:07<fxiny>amphi: so try Mirror Tall :)
14:07<fxiny>ml: terminus++ :)
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14:09<ml>yay xmobar built and installed :D
14:10<fxiny>amphi: i got it by chance : i learned that Wide is the "Tall logical mirror" , could not let using it Wide instead of Tall so i tryed "Mirror()" . and it worked
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14:10<fxiny>that was after a major 100% swap freeze :P
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14:14<fxiny>amphi: but magicFocus (something-in-between) is dangerous :P
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14:14<fxiny>as soon as i finish my perfect-layout quest i'll do some haskell reading
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14:15<adb>or a howto xmonad for debian
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14:15<fxiny>luckily i have some free brain space avaiable , i never learned python :P
14:16<ml>fxiny: you will never get the perfect layout hehe
14:16<fxiny>adb: a quick tutorial ?
14:17<adb>;) sure
14:17<marcel>valdyn, if you're there, fyi's my attempt to fix "out of range" with vga=ask didn't work. Just as before, I saw boot messages on the console but after X started, switching to vt1 results in "out of range" from my monitor.
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14:17<valdyn>marcel: i see
14:17<marcel>Anyone care to offer other ideas how to address "out of range" when switching back to console from X?
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14:18<fxiny>adb: browse back to xmonad home . after :'s_Configuration
14:18<fxiny>10 minutes reading and you are on xmonad
14:18<marcel>valdyn, I tried both a basic mode and a fancier vesa mode.
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14:19<marcel>Also tried fbset with a few modes, running fbset from inside my X session and also "typing blind" on the out of range console...
14:19<marcel>not sure it matters where I run it from.
14:19<valdyn>marcel: nvidia is messing with this
14:19<fxiny>ml: how is it ?
14:19<adb>i saw this thx , he talks useing .xsesion to start , but xmonad use xinitrc
14:19<valdyn>marcel: have you looked at their support forum?
14:19<marcel>Also noticed the lenny upgrade gave me an openvz kernel, so I tried a plain one
14:19<valdyn>adb: xmonad use xinitrc? are you confused?
14:19<marcel>No, I'll check it out. Have only googled the greater net
14:20<ml>fxiny: it awesome :D
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14:20<marcel>Unfortunately the "nv" driver that comes with Xorg seems not to support my 1920x1200 LCD screen.
14:20<ml>fxiny: much better than openbox once it is setup and I get the hang of it :D
14:21<valdyn>marcel: yesterday someone was here with the opposite exerpience ( high res only with nv )
14:21<adb>valdyn: yes
14:21<valdyn>adb: xmonad does not use xinitrc
14:21<valdyn>adb: xmonad docs might mention xinitrc, thats something entirely different
14:21<ml>fxiny: it read my .gtkrc-2.0 file perfectly
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14:22<ml>adb you can use .xinitrc if you want
14:23<adb> To use xmonad as your window manager add:
14:23<adb> xmonad
14:23<adb> to your ~/.xinitrc file
14:23<adb>from man page
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14:23<valdyn>adb: thats .xsession for you, probably
14:24<ml>adb: just add to your .xintrc... /usr/bin/xmonad
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14:26<adb>its ok for me . but doc seems strange ...
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14:26<ml>adb: I went through the same thing this morning
14:27<adb>so we need a right howto !
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14:27<adb>fxiny: ^^^
14:27<ml>adb: well it's better than nothing
14:29<adb>no , its very un productive ...
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14:35<dpkg>from memory, xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips:
14:35<fxiny>adb: ^^^
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14:37<adb>thx fxiny
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14:38<fxiny>adb: wanna p* your mates off ? try quingy ;)
14:38<adb>tried ...
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14:40<Katt>Hello. I'm having a strange problem here. I have a program here I want to run, but as a user I get the error "ptrace failed: Operation not permitted".
14:40<Katt>It works fine if I run as root though.
14:41<Katt>But it's supposed to be run as a user.
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14:41<marcel>Is the process you want to trace running as the same user as the one running strace?
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14:42<Katt>I don't want to trace any processes.
14:42<Katt>The software just gives me that error.
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14:43<marcel>What is the name or purpose of the software?
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14:44<fxiny>adb: already have one or more ? you mean : update-alternatives --config x-window-manager ?
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14:44<Katt>marcel: Stepmania, it's a ddr-simulator.
14:45<Katt>A game.
14:45<adb>fxiny: i just do a try of it , for tests
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14:46<adb>s/do/ done *
14:46*adb mangiare ...
14:46<fxiny>adb: is well worth looking ito it
14:47*fxiny fixes one eye with a flame-thrower
14:47<marcel>Katt, ptrace is used for debugging type stuff. Seems odd to me that a game would want to use it. I don't know what it's trying to do.
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14:49<Katt>Me neither. :/
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14:49<Katt>Well, works as root.
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14:52<Katt>When I tried to do something in the game it gave me the same ptrace-error
14:52<Katt>While running it as root
14:52<Katt>This confuses me.
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14:55<Katt>Strange. After that ptrace-error, I get some keyboard-errors.
14:55<Katt>If I hold down a key it won't type multiple instances of that key.
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14:55<Katt>And the same applies for backspace.
14:55<shell>what are u on @ katt
14:55<Katt>Pressing and holding backspace just erases 1 letter
14:55<Katt>shell: Debian testing
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14:56<Katt>Seems related to the x-session, restarting the x-session fixes the problem.
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14:57<shell>Im a spaz to debain
14:57<lemonzest>spaz = offensive
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14:58<shell>what are u on @ lemonzest
14:58<And1>How do I copy folder1/$content and folder2/$content to folder3/$content_and_other_files, so that only files are replaced, which exist in folder1 and folder2? (Like extacting a zip with $content in folder3...)
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14:59*fxiny takes one aspirine per folder , and a full paracetamol box just in case
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15:00*marcel guesses cp folder1/$content folder2/$content folder3/
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15:00<fxiny>And1: man rsync
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15:04<And1>marcel: Hmm, ok, that works. Last time I tried it this way, I thought it failed.
15:04<petern>aahhh, fresh lenny install :D
15:05<dkr>oh, i thought ou were trying to copy files if and only if they exists in *both* folder1 and foler2
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15:06<dkr>so I came up with diff -qrs folder1 folder2 | grep identical to get the list of files that are in both :)
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15:06<fxiny>petern: feeling relaxed ? :)
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15:07<petern>fxiny, yes... and it was so easy to install :D
15:07<urbinek>can somebody help me to set up my tvcard
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15:08<petern>mind you i remember installing woody on an alpha... that wasn't fun
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15:09<fxiny> that's nice , i have good woody memories
15:09<urbinek>i can see Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt879(??) Video Capture (rev 11) via lspci byt ther is o /dev/video0
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15:15<oigres>Is there a simple command to record directly mp3 or mp2's ??? I can use `rec something.wav` but I get instantly a large wav file. Tx!
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15:15<ml>fxiny: xmobar is not behaving
15:15<dzusiq>potrzebuje pomocy przy instalacji karty wifi intel 2200bg
15:16<urbinek>tutaj sie gada po agielsku :P
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15:16<dzusiq>i'm looking for help with wi-fi configuration
15:17<fxiny>ml: what's wrong with it ?
15:17<dzusiq>i've intel 2200bg wireless adapter
15:18<dzusiq>as I have instaled fedora 10 i have no problems with this
15:18<ml>fxiny: wheneverI change a window it goes away and just says updating in the top left corner
15:19<ml>fxiny: sometimes it's just grayed out
15:19<dzusiq>but one of my friends told me to install debian 'cause it's easier for me
15:19<amphi>dzusiq: you have the fw installed in /lib/firmware?
15:19<fxiny>ml: is your xmonad.hs
15:19<fxiny>not xmobar
15:19<amphi>!tell dzusiq -about ipw2200
15:19<dzusiq>I use netinst to install debian
15:20<dzusiq>I don't know, I'm new
15:20<ml>fxiny: ok
15:21<dzusiq>I used to use widows xp
15:21<amphi>we all have our crosses to bear
15:21<fxiny>ml: look at the Goerzen config
15:21<dzusiq>how I can check it
15:21<amphi>dzusiq: did you read what dpkg told you?
15:21<ml>fxiny: that is what I'm using
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15:22<pwork>Hi :)
15:22<ml>fxiny: I see my error now
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15:22<ml>fxiny: thanks
15:24<fxiny>ml: ok :)
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15:25<pwork>ml : I installed a Lenny 32 bits chroot environment on a Lenny 64 bits system following your advice ;) But there are many information I miss : how to share '/home' among system and chrooted environment (my /home is in a LVM container), is that dangerous, how can I log on as a normal user (not root) in the chrooted environment. In fact, I don't know what is shared or not between the system and the chrooted environment.
15:25<dzusiq>I'll try solution at
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15:26<ml>pwork: it was not me that helped ya
15:26<pwork>ml, lol ok
15:27<ml>hehe np
15:28<pwork>If one edit a text file in the host system, and simultaneously edit it in a chrooted environment, what will happen ? I fear these things with chroot
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15:29<pwork>ml : I was thinking of themill when writing to you :)
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15:31<simonrvn>uh oh
15:31*fxiny swiftly glues themill shadow to the floor
15:31<pwork>lol, it's not a love affair, it's just my bad english, come back !
15:32<pwork>:) I installed a Lenny 32b chrooted environment following your advice
15:33<pwork>But I miss some pieces of information : [spam] how to share '/home' among system and chrooted environment (my /home is in a LVM container), is that dangerous, how can I log on as a normal user (not root) in the chrooted environment. In fact, I don't know what is shared or not between the system and the chrooted environment.[/spam]
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15:33<themill>you probably want a bind mount. Look at the schroot package for that
15:33<ml>fxiny: got xmobar working but the bottom of the terms are messed up, showing twice
15:34<themill>dpkg: tell pwork about schroot
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15:34<pwork>dpkg: yes, tell me
15:34<dpkg>pwork: wish i knew
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15:35<fxiny>ml: check your ~/.xmobarrc
15:35<pwork>themill : More generally, I wonder what will happen if I edit a file from host and chrooted-env at the same time
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15:36<ml>fxiny: im there what I'm I missing?
15:36<themill>pwork: if you're using a bind mount, exactly the same as if you edited it twice on the same machine -- it depends on the editor, but probably the last to hit "save" wins.
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15:36<fxiny>ml: is it a custom rc ?
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15:37<pwork>themill : Good to know that the slowest will win in the end : the turtle and the rabbit race heh
15:37<ml>no from John just changed TopW L 90 to Top and weather code
15:38<ml>fxiny: no from John just changed TopW L 90 to Top and weather code
15:38<amphi>ml: just running xmobar in a shell show no errors in the config?
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15:39<ml>amphi: let me try that
15:39<amphi>it doesn't tell you what the error is, if there is one, but it will whine
15:40<fxiny>ml: this is mine :
15:40<fxiny>i just removed some stuff
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15:41<pwork>themill : schroot will force me to redo a new debootstrap and so on, I'll stick with standard chroot
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15:42<pwork>themill :
15:42<amphi>ml: and mine FWIW:
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15:43<fxiny>amphi: grabbing it ....
15:43<themill>pwork: you should be able to use schroot with a chroot you've already built.
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15:43<ml>fxiny: amphi: thanks working on it will report back :)
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15:46<benoid>i am working on a proxy that bans all https pages by content (whenever it matches "cherry" or "bimbo" the page should be blocked and a "meal time later" message must be displayed instead), so i need to add another proxy, for mitming up my https, what mitm proxy can i use?
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15:49<ml>fxiny: your xmobar: .xmobarrc: configuration file contains errors!
15:50<fxiny>can't be , it runs fine , what xmobar version are you using ?
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15:50<fxiny>ml: anyway : just tell me :)
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15:51<ml>fxiny: 0.9.1
15:51<amphi>ml: mine contains unused crap, you'll notice
15:51<amphi>the curse of cruft
15:51<fxiny>0.9.1 ?
15:51<adama>ok why are there 5 DVDs for lenny i386
15:52<dkr>benoid: did you find one with those features? squid? seems hard to do without triggering browser warnings about mitm attacks
15:52<ml>ima try yours amphi
15:52<benoid>dkr: squid doesn't support mitm by itself
15:52<amphi>0.9 here
15:53<fxiny>same 0.9 here
15:53<amphi>ml: the ones that call scripts won't work, obviously
15:53<dkr>benoid: are you doing it with a browser configured proxy or trying to do it transparently?
15:53<amphi>ml: ie. xmbatt and xmlink
15:54<fxiny>lemme double check my pastebin
15:54<benoid>dkr: proxied browser
15:56<ml>amphi: xmobar: .xmobarrc: configuration file contains errors!
15:56<amphi>ml: hahaha
15:56<ml>amphi: fxiny: must be the version i'm using?
15:56<amphi>did you read the README?
15:56<ml>amphi: I removed your script lines
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15:57<amphi>perhaps there's some syntax change
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15:58<amphi>I changed the sepChar because I wanted to be able to have '%' in the output, but that's done in the scripts now
15:58<amphi>'%' seems a bad default choice though, IMHO - a status bar is likely to want this char
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15:59<fxiny>ml: i donwloaded your version , there is a xmobar.config-sample , is it working ?
15:59<amphi>fxiny: any changes of note?
15:59<fxiny>amphi: can't see a changelog
16:00<fxiny>amphi: found it
16:00<amphi>maybe some new plugin[s]?
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16:01<dutchy>adama: the reason that Lenny is 5 DVD's is because the DVD's contain ALL of the repository. Most people don't need more than the first one or two, the higher numbers have usually obsqure programs
16:01<fxiny>amphi: no . there is no changelog
16:01<fxiny>super strange
16:02<fxiny>amphi: i see a ChangeLog in 0.9 but not in 0.9.1
16:02<ml>sorry fxiny amphi in my rush toget it working didn;t notice the documentation
16:03<ml>fxiny: the example works, still same term proble
16:03<fxiny>amphi: is the same
16:03<fxiny>no diff
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16:04<amphi>ml: heh
16:04<amphi>again ;)
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16:10<fxiny>ml: want a working conf to try ?
16:10<fxiny>wanna start for the roof ? ;)
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16:10<fxiny>a hut roof :P
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16:11<fxiny>you'd better not : i think you gonna loose half of the fun ;)
16:11<amphi>fxiny: some syntax change?
16:12<fxiny>amphi: i put the 0.9.1 where i have the darcs patches for when i will try afain adding loadaverage plugin patch
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16:12<fxiny>afain sucks ;P
16:12<amphi>fxiny: why noy just use a script?
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16:13<amphi>or just Run Com ?
16:13<fxiny>amphi: because i'm looking for my perfect layout first , then i will start again
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16:13<fxiny>i think i've checked more then 20 layouts so far
16:14<amphi>what resolution have you there?
16:14<fxiny>somehing a ponit-and-click-desktop user can onbly dream of :P
16:14<ml>fxiny: here is a screenshot of waht I mean...
16:14<fxiny>amphi: low , old hardware
16:16<fxiny>ml: try this magicfocus and something layout :
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16:16<fxiny>ml: so you know where the problem is
16:16<amphi>ml: what an intolerable irssi theme ;)
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16:16<ml>fxiny: ok
16:16<amphi>ml: do you want mine?
16:16<goodtime>i freakin have to do that
16:16<ml>amphi: why is that? heh
16:16<goodtime>how did you do tha
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16:17<goodtime>amphi: that wicked nice
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16:17<amphi>goodtime: what?
16:17<ml>amphi: sure
16:17<goodtime>so thoes are diff channels split up right
16:17<fxiny>amphi: where is it ? i can't see anything
16:18<goodtime>the screen shot amphi
16:18<goodtime>awww man seeing all the differnt channels at one looks cool
16:19<fxiny>ahhhh javacrap blocking
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16:19<amphi>ml: - save it as ~/irssi/amphi.theme and in irssi, do '/set theme amphi'
16:19<nicholas__>anyone knows how to perform variable substitution in .conffiles when generating a .deb package ?
16:19<amphi>goodtime: what screenshot? I'm confused ;)
16:20<amphi>ml: I certainly find it easier on the eyes ;)
16:20<ml>amphi: thanks
16:20<fxiny>amphi: yes , you are right !
16:20<fxiny>ml: what a theme !
16:20<ml>goodtime: that was me
16:20<amphi>fxiny: heheh
16:20<goodtime>oic heh
16:20<ml>you don't like either hehe
16:20<klando>amphi, is your irssi theme suitable with screen ?
16:20<goodtime>well thats freakin sweet
16:21<amphi>ml: the advanced window list script is handy for irssi IMHO
16:21<fxiny>ml: take it to the komodo island : lizards like green themes :P
16:21<fxiny>amphi: ;)
16:21<amphi>klando: works fine here in screen
16:21<stuckey>Can anyone here recommend a good program for typing notes? I just need something which has a spell check function...
16:21<ml>fxiny: lmao
16:21<amphi>komodo, heh
16:21<ml>ok let me try all this brb
16:22<amphi>ml: FTW also
16:22<fxiny>ml: ghci that conf but : mind the magicfocus power :)
16:22<ml>fxiny: i'm on it
16:23<amphi>with mouse-follows-focus ! ;)
16:23<ml>amphi: will try it out once I figure this out thanks
16:23<fxiny>so , is xmobar working now ?
16:23<ml>fxiny: one sec
16:23<amphi>heh, you are kept busy
16:23<fxiny>amphi: and with goto/bring menu ;)
16:24<amphi>fxiny: it needs to take a leaf from the book of INTERCAL, and have comeFrom ;)
16:24<klando>amphi, nice, tks
16:24<amphi>klando: welcome
16:24<fxiny>stuckey: org-mode
16:24<fxiny>amphi: hehehe
16:24*klando had never change the theme before :)
16:24<fxiny>stuckey: spell ? no idea
16:25<amphi>klando: channels are yellow if anyone speaks, and red if you are highlighted
16:25<stuckey>fxiny: Thanks I'll try org-mode
16:25<ml>fxiny: yes that went fine with import XMonad.Layout.MagicFocus
16:25<ml>fxiny: what does it do?
16:25<fxiny>stuckey: it rocks , google for docs
16:25<stuckey>Does anyone know if there's support for German in I mean, in terms of the spellchecker/dictionary...
16:26<klando>rahh good :-) (most of the time I use konversation or xchat over irssi but when I fallback to myscreen it will be very good to have that
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16:26<Makube-X>hi everybody
16:26*ml loves xmonad, just nneds to get it confured heh
16:26<stuckey>fxiny: I prefer programs that run on my computer.
16:26<fxiny>ml: cycle and look what happen when you focus a pane
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16:26<ml>fxiny: ok
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16:27<Prosis>I installed Firestarter and my internet stopped working...uninstalled it but it's still not working...and I've flushed my iptables
16:27<Prosis>Does anyone know what to do?
16:28<fxiny>stuckey: if emacs won't run on it you are running a vauxall :P
16:28<amphi>ml: you can spend an arbitrary amount of time playing with your xmonad config, as far as I can see ;)
16:28<fxiny>ml: exaclty , now you know it can be done :)
16:29<ml>amphi: heh
16:29<stuckey>fxiny: this is a mode for emacs, right? How do I use a mode for emacs?
16:29<Makube-X>someone knows why does aptitude not have super cow powers???
16:29<ml>fxiny: I don't notice anything special
16:29<amphi>ml: I've barely scratched the surface yet IMHO
16:29<weasel>Makube-X: because apt has them
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16:29<Makube-X>and apt does??
16:29<Makube-X>what is the diference???
16:29<weasel>Makube-X: apt-get moo
16:30<fxiny>stuckey: org-mode comes with excellent docs . there is a google vid as well
16:30<Makube-X>why can i aptitude moo ? :(
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16:31<fxiny>ml: nothing special ? check again with mod j or move the mouse from one pane to the other
16:31<ml>fxiny: I did
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16:32<fxiny>does is switch ?
16:32<ml>mod j and k mouse even
16:32<ml>fxiny: yes
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16:32<fxiny>that's it !
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16:32<fxiny>is a great feature
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16:32<ml>fxiny: it did tha before
16:32<fxiny>no way
16:33<fxiny>ml: you'll get it later , no worries
16:33<ml>what do you mean by switch then
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16:34<fxiny>ml: two horizontal panes : icewilly oin the top , emacs on the bottom . right ? now move the focus and watch
16:34<goodtime>so this is just tweeking the format of a terminal
16:34<goodtime>i like the idea
16:35<fxiny>ml: make them panes some 3 to 1
16:35<goodtime>ty ml
16:35<ml>fxiny: isn't that done with mod+space?
16:35<Makube-X>how can i get sources from aptitude??
16:35<pwork>themill : Thanks for schroot :) It works fine now. But I can't understand this : it automounted the host /home, but not the /root . Here is some of the host /etc/fstab lines :
16:35<pwork>themill : /dev/mapper/user-home /home ext3 defaults 0 2
16:35<ml>goodtime: np thank fxiny and amphi
16:36<fxiny>nope , this is different , try to type in emacs
16:36<goodtime>hey thank you all your the best
16:36<pwork>themill : and I added some stuff for the chrooted env : proc-debian.i386.lenny /chroot/debian.i386.lenny/proc proc defaults 0 0
16:36<fxiny>when is on the bottom :P
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16:36<Makube-X>weasel, how can i get sources from aptitude??
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16:37<fxiny>amphi: magicfocus is the eel effetc :P
16:37<weasel>Makube-X: generally, or those of aptitude?
16:37<Makube-X>weasel, something like apt-get source my_pack
16:37<weasel>Makube-X: use apt-get.
16:38<pwork>themill : In /etc/schroot/schroot.conf, I added : run-setup-scripts=true and run-exec-scripts=true
16:38<ml>fxiny: I'll get eventually still don't understand tho
16:38<Makube-X>it dont causes problems between apt n aptitude???
16:39<fxiny>ml: because yoiu havn't played yet , save that hs . make your own and see the normal behaviour
16:39<pwork>Makube-X, in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you can add 'deb someurl somestuff' for binaries repositories, and 'deb-src someurl somestuff' for sources repositories
16:40<ml>fxiny: here is a current screenshot
16:40<Makube-X>tnks pwork
16:40<Makube-X>tnks weasel
16:40<pwork>tnks you
16:41<ml>fxiny: are the bottom of the terms suppose to be like that, with a space at the bottom?
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16:42<deed02392>Hi all, I need vmware server on my debian 4.0 etch linux server. trouble is it requires kernel modules, not installed by default from my service provider for my dedicated server (ovh). so i got the kernel off my datacenter, along with their config, changed the config file to use kernel modules and then that's as far as i've got. the next step is to compile it with make but i want to be sure on how to compile the kernel properly without a hitch. under compile kerne
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16:42<Hirschkuh>pidgin tells me i need to update the client, is there a prebuild debian package or do i have to compile it from source?
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16:42<Prosis>Does anyone know how to get rid of my Firestarter problem?
16:43<Hirschkuh>Prosis, what is your problem?
16:43<pwork>Hirschkuh : apt-get update pidgin, or apt-get install pidgin if you never installed it from debian repositories
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16:43<Prosis>I installed Firestarter and my internet stopped working...uninstalled it but it's still not working...and I've flushed my iptables
16:44<Hirschkuh>i installed it from the repos, but since today it says the client is too old
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16:44<Hirschkuh>i need to update
16:44<Prosis>I can't use the internet nor can I install any new package
16:44<Hirschkuh>but since ive installed it off the repos 3 days ago, i dont think itll worl
16:44<pwork>Hirschkuh, yes, hope it will do the job :)
16:44<fxiny>ml: start again the xmonad tour . learn the basic commands
16:44<Hirschkuh>ah ok
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16:44<Prosis>But I can ping
16:44<Hirschkuh>stop firestarter?
16:44<Prosis>So I'm connected to the network
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16:44<Prosis>Well I removed it
16:45<pwork>Hirschkuh, strange indeed. I daily use it, and didn't updated it recently
16:45<Hirschkuh>but the iptables are still written
16:45<Prosis>But I flushed them
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16:45<Prosis>It is
16:45<BaDaSs><3 lenny
16:45<fxiny>ml: take the magicfocus off , use a basic layout , comment out the addictional keyes
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16:45<Prosis>I tried another thing that I found, but unsuccessfully
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16:46<Hirschkuh>how can i say apt-get i wanna update?
16:46<Hirschkuh>he just says pidgin is already installed
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16:46<deed02392>remove it with apt, download the source from pidgin and compile it
16:46<Hirschkuh>sure that firestarter is the problem?
16:47<goodtime>man i got to figure this out
16:47<Makube-X>apt-get source -b pidgin
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16:47<Makube-X>it make you a pidgin.deb
16:47<Hirschkuh>Makube-X, will this get the newest version?
16:47<ml>fxiny: will do
16:48<Makube-X>ummm nop...
16:48<Hirschkuh>i need a newer one :P
16:48<Makube-X>you hav stable or testing
16:48<Hirschkuh>since 2.4.3 wont let me connect to ICQ
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16:48<Hirschkuh>it tells me i need a newer version
16:48<deed02392>can anyone here help with my kernel issue =[
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16:49<pwork>When chrooting, can someone explain why the host /home is mounted with schroot command, and not with the simple chroot command ? No /etc/fstab edit happens meantime.
16:49<BaDaSs>Poll [Yes/No]: KDM > GDM?
16:50<pwork>no : XDM > *
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16:51<deed02392>syntax error near xdm
16:51<deed02392>please can someone help me with reconfiguring my kernel
16:51<deed02392>i'm desperate
16:52<pwork>deed02392, I have no deep knowledge of linux :) step by step learning, sorry
16:52<pwork>deed02392, If you detail your issue, it will be easier for people to help
16:52<snoopi>hou are you?
16:52<deed02392>i already did at 20:42
16:52<Hirschkuh>got pidgin 2.5.5 working
16:52<deed02392>it's been 10 minutes, i'll resend
16:52<deed02392>Hi all, I need vmware server on my debian 4.0 etch linux server. trouble is it requires kernel modules, not installed by default from my service provider for my dedicated server (ovh). so i got the kernel off my datacenter, along with their config, changed the config file to use kernel modules and then that's as far as i've got. the next step is to compile it with make but i want to be sure on how to compile the kernel properly without a hitch. under compile kerne
16:52<amphi>!tell deed02392 -about kernel-package
16:52<pwork>Hirschkuh, good point ;)
16:53<Makube-X>Hirschkuh, you can install a backport
16:53<Hirschkuh>compiled it now ^^
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16:53<Makube-X>ok good
16:53<Hirschkuh>since build-dep is my friend xD
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16:55<k6>Hi, how can I show the ssh fingerprint of my computer?
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16:58<Hirschkuh>is there something like "yakuake" for gnome?
16:58<pwork>See you :)
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16:58<amphi>ml: better in here, perhaps
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16:59<amphi>ml: 'ls ~/.irssi/amphi.theme' shows the file?
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17:00<dzusiq>still I need help about intel wireless 2200bg
17:01<ml>amphi: glad you noticed
17:01<dzusiq>I've instaled ipw2x00
17:01<ml>amphi: yes it does
17:01<amphi>dzusiq: and the firmware?
17:01<dkr>Hirschkuh: guake
17:01<ml>michel@I531 ~ $ ls .irssi/
17:02<ml>amphi.theme config default.theme scripts urlgrab-log
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17:02<stuckey>Does anyone know how I can get german spell-checking support in openoffice?
17:02<dzusiq>amphi: yes
17:02<dkr>Hirschkuh: (which I discovered by looking up yakuake, ;)
17:02<amphi>dzusiq: so what's the problem?
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17:04<ml>amphi: did a /reload still the same
17:04<dzusiq>amphi: it's doesn't works
17:04*amphi sighs
17:04<amphi>ml: I'm at a loss
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17:05<ml>amphi: it's wierd because it comes up when I tab to complete
17:05<amphi>is the file corrupt?
17:06<amphi>you did save the file from the 'raw' link? ;)
17:06<amphi>did you check it for garbage?
17:06<dzusiq>I tried the way at, I saw for a while a wifi connection, besides it doesn't wont to connect with my wireless network
17:06<ml>nope heh ima do it now ;)
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17:07<amphi>ml: dunno; klando had it work ok
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17:08<amphi>dzusiq: I have to go and do this and that amongst the pots and pans now, but if you're still having problems, I'll try to help when I return
17:08<amphi>bugger, that fxiny slipped away?
17:08<amphi>dzusiq: ipw2200 worked pretty well for me
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17:08<dzusiq>it work nice on fedora
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17:09<dzusiq>and I don't know why it don't wont works on debian disto
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17:22<styx-tdo>hi, i loeft a process running from another computer via SSH and want to regain control - any idea?
17:24<amphi>ml: I believed you ;)
17:24<ml>amphi: just want to show :)
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17:25<ml>I tried /reload maybe a complete restart?
17:25<amphi>ml: and it's in the $HOME of the user running irssi? ;)
17:25<ml>yes that me :)
17:26<ml>brb ima try a fresh start
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17:27<styx-tdo>say, how can a package be only avail in i386 and not in amd64?!
17:28<ml>amphi: that did it :)
17:28<stew>styx-tdo: there are multiple possible reasons. can you give us an eample?
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17:28<ml>oh yes much better :)
17:28<amphi>ah - odd, I didn't need to restart irssi - I checked with a test theme
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17:28<styx-tdo>stew: retty
17:28<styx-tdo>in sid
17:28<ml>amphi: thanks
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17:29<amphi>you're welcome - a bit less 'komodo', heh
17:29<ml>amphi: ima go hunt down those scripts you recomended
17:29<amphi>ml: install irssi-scripts
17:29<ml>oh I cal see my text much better
17:30<ml>I have it installed
17:30<stew>styx-tdo: aparantly that package is not arch independent. the source code must be written in a very i386 dependent way
17:30<amphi> is in there,as is
17:30<stew>styx-tdo: says "Architecture: i386" instead of "Architecture: any"
17:31<tcsetattr>retty injects some hand-written assembly-code into the target process and then forces the target to execute it, all through ptrace. it's very evil. use screen.
17:31<amphi>ml: is very handy - when you switch away from a channel and back again, it draws a line where you've already seen
17:31<styx-tdo>stew: yes, i noticed.. i was under the impression that this is very uncommon for .deb packages..
17:32<stew>styx-tdo: indeed
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17:32<styx-tdo>oh yes..
17:32<styx-tdo>x86 CPU only, or amd64 CPU running in 32bit mode.
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17:34<tcsetattr>it's possible it could work on amd64 if the target process is a 32-bit process. if the target is 64-bit, no way.
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17:35<styx-tdo>yes.. started repair_xfs.. *ough*
17:35<styx-tdo>probably it will run till tomorrow morning, anywa
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17:38<ml>amphi: I will do all that after I fix my car window, just noticed that it broke
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17:38<ml>amphi: thanks for your help
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17:48<LL00>hum after installation how I can disable acpi? I wrote in menu.1st acpi=no, but I still see the apcid deamon running :(
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17:51<Steven_M>hi all
17:51<batistet>which application can i download for .rar files?
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17:51<dzusiq>amphi: can you still help me
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17:53<Pitxyoki>batistet, unrar.
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17:53<batistet>unrar ok thanks a lot
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17:53<Pitxyoki>If you use file-roller, if you install unrar it will handle .rar files without probs.
17:53<batistet>thanks a lot
17:54<amphi>dzusiq: what's the problem? ipw2209 worked well for me on debian
17:54<amphi>er, ipw2200
17:55<Steven_M>have any of you had trouble getting audio with flash using iceweasl's default flash plugin?
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17:56<dzusiq>amphi: tell me, I run at su mode the gnome-nettool, and when I'm trying to configure anyone of net interfaces it tells me that there is no such interface
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17:57<dzusiq>besides I've something like avahi-deamon, what that?
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17:58<amphi>dzusiq: I don't know anything about such gui tools I'm afraid
17:59<amphi>dzusiq: does ifconfig -a show the interface?
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18:00<dzusiq>amphi: yes
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18:00<pwork>I have some permission problems and can't have a xdm fine run with .xsession :
18:00<pwork>Xsession: X session started for pavondes at Mon Feb 23 03:45:08 CET 2009
18:00<pwork>open: Permission denied
18:00<pwork>Xsession: X session started for user at Mon Feb 23 03:48:39 CET 2009
18:00<pwork>IceWM: using /home/user/.icewm for private configuration files
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18:00<amphi>dzusiq: can you configure it with iwconfig?
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18:02<pwork>I placed errors in #flood
18:02<Hirschkuh>is it easy to updte lenny to gnome 2.24 or 2.6?
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18:03<pwork>As soon as I do a 'ln -s ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession' and restart xdm, X server returns to login page just after I validate log in
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18:03<pwork>It only contains 'xset b off'
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18:04<pwork>I tried deleting 'chmod -vR 01777 /tmp' and 'chown user:user ~/.Xauthority' with no success
18:04<pwork>(doing 'chmod ...)
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18:08<Hirschkuh>is there a way to get a newer wine version for lenny?
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18:08<pwork>Hirschkuh: Compiling from source
18:09<dondelelcaro>well, the soap is working fine
18:09<Hirschkuh>k :(
18:09<dondelelcaro>err, ECHAN
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18:13<Pitxyoki>Hirschkuh, you can go get the version currently at the experimental repositories.
18:13<Hirschkuh>how do i do that?
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18:14<Pitxyoki>You edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and replace where you see "lenny" with "experimental".
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18:14<Pitxyoki>Then you do an apt-get update and then an apt-get install wine
18:15<Pitxyoki>...after the upgrade, you revert the /etc/apt/sources.list to what it was.
18:15<Hirschkuh>kay thx
18:15<Pitxyoki>And do again apt-get update.
18:15<Pitxyoki>All of this with your root account.
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18:16<Steven_M>is there a channel for iceweasel?
18:16<adama>why are there 5 DVDs for lenny i386? I only need the first right??
18:16<Hirschkuh>adama, use the network installation if possible
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18:17<Hirschkuh>with that you only got a image around 130MB, rest will download while install
18:17<Pitxyoki>Steven_M, what do you want to know about iceweasel?
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18:17<adama>Hirschkuh: I know, I want an image for an install-fest where the bandwidth will be limited and less waiting around would be good
18:17<Steven_M>adama: I used the 1st DVD just fine
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18:18<Hirschkuh>then you only need the first
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18:18<adama>ok, does it have non-free on it? what are the other DVDs?
18:18<Hirschkuh>the pages also says "only download the first unless you need the stuff from the others"
18:18<Steven_M>Pitxyoki: have you had trouble getting audio with flash using iceweasl's default flash plugin?
18:18<adama>the page I'm at is just a file listing... I probably missed that part
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18:19<Pitxyoki>Steven_M, some months ago, yes.
18:19<Pitxyoki>But that bug seemed to go away.
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18:20<Pitxyoki>What version of Debian are you using?
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18:20<Steven_M>Pitxyoki: it hasn't with me, I'm using Lenny
18:20<dzusiq>amphi: I removed avahi-daemon
18:21<Pitxyoki>Have you tried reinstalled flashplugin-nonfree?
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18:22<zem>default flash plugin in iceweasel was rubish for me, half the time didn't work at all
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18:23<Pitxyoki>What's the "default"?
18:23<Steven_M>Pitxyoki: I'm not using flashplugin-plugin-nonfree, decswf, I think
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18:23<Pitxyoki>Then I don't know.
18:23<Pitxyoki>I've always used flashplugin-nonfree.
18:24<zem>i somehow don't think that default flash plugin in debian would be "flashplugin-nonfree"
18:25<Steven_M>Pitxyoki: ok, it's not in lenny though :(
18:25<Hirschkuh>the default is swfdec
18:25<Hirschkuh>the nonfree is in the debian-multimedia repo
18:25<Steven_M>zem: what do you use?
18:26<Pitxyoki>Now I remember.
18:26<zem>Steven_M: let me check
18:26<Pitxyoki>flashplugin-nonfree will never be in the debian stable distribution.
18:26<Pitxyoki>If you want it, you will have to install it from the testing repositories.
18:26<Hirschkuh>or just add the debian-multimedia repo, theres other usefull stuff in it
18:27<zem>and it's in lenny repositories
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18:27<Pitxyoki>There's some discussion about if it should be at the backports though, but the maintainer seems to not want to do that.
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18:27<zem>or backports
18:27<zem>because that are the only ones i use
18:27<Pitxyoki>Something like that.
18:27<Pitxyoki>It never gave me problems, though.
18:28<zem>works like a charm
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18:28<Steven_M>zem: isn't using backports a security risk?
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18:29<Pitxyoki>Steven_M, using the Internet is a security risk.
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18:34<ryan_>I have a production debian sarge server that has data that I need to perform calculations on. Unfortunately the server doesn
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18:34<ryan_>doesnt have nfs or samba on it and the sarge packages appear to be long gone
18:34<ryan_>any advice?
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18:34<Steven_M>Pitxyoki: zem: Hirschkuh: opinions from all 3 please: which would be safer, installing flashplugin non-free from the backports or debian-multimedia?
18:34<Pitxyoki>I vote for backports.
18:35<Pitxyoki>Backports is an official repository.
18:35<Pitxyoki>multimedia isn't.
18:35<Hirschkuh>its like asking a mac user: whats better, windows or mac?
18:35<ansgar>ryan_: Maybe scp/sftp? There's also which still has sarge.
18:35<Hirschkuh>i think safest would be downloading and installing it from adobe
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18:36<ryan_>ansgar: I considered using sshfs but I think it may be too slow for my needs. could work though!
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18:38<Steven_M>Hirschkuh: you mean the adobe website has a deb package?
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18:39<Steven_M>Hirschkuh: So how does that work?
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18:40<Hirschkuh>idk, youre talking about safety, so i think getting it from the developers is the safest
18:40<Hirschkuh>but i looked
18:40<Hirschkuh>it has a deb package for ubuntu
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18:40<Hirschkuh>maybe it works for debian as well
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18:40<Steven_M>Hirschkuh: ok
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18:41<Steven_M>zem: what do you reckon?
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18:42<Hirschkuh>Steven_M, what exactly do you want from us? just take deb-multimedia or backports, i think none is the worser one
18:42<Pitxyoki>Hirschkuh, if Debian has a method for keeping all of your packages automatically maintained and without effort, why on earth would you want to break that and go install something from outside the repositories, that actually you could get from the repos?
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18:43<Hirschkuh>because for me, debian-multimedia has some other stuff that the backports doesnt have...
18:43<Hirschkuh>if its only for the flashplugin, go to the packages site and download it and install via dpkg
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18:44<Hirschkuh>if i remember it has only 1 dependencie that you need to install
18:44<Hirschkuh>and that dependencie is in the stable repo
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18:45<Hirschkuh>is there a way to update a programm via apt-get?
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18:45<Hirschkuh>i want to update gnome to a newer version
18:46<Hirschkuh>and when i put the experimental repo in it, update then try to reinstall gnome, it says its already installed
18:46<ryan_>ansgar: Worked great. thanks for the mirror!
18:46<Hirschkuh>can i tell him to just upgrade it?
18:46<Steven_M>Hirschkuh: Pitxyoki: ok I've decided to go with backports. I hope I haven't annoyed either of you.
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18:47<djfender>I have a question....
18:48<djfender>^-^; How do I execute files? OpenITG wont load when simply clicked...
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18:48<djfender>I just transferred from XP so I am a bit....confused :P
18:48<Steven_M>Pitxyoki: are the packages in backports coverd by DSA's?
18:48<Hirschkuh>is it a commandline tool?
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18:48<djfender>nope, its a game
18:49<djfender>why did you check my CTCP hirsh?
18:49<Hirschkuh>i like informtion :D
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18:49<djfender>oh :P
18:49<Hirschkuh>do u run gnome?
18:49<djfender>nope im on kde
18:49<Hirschkuh>then press alt+f2 type "konsole" (without "")
18:50<Hirschkuh>in that konsole you enter the command (i think openitg)
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18:50<djfender>I didn't like gnome, it felt to mac-y
18:50<Hirschkuh>if it runs, be happy, if not (what i think) it will show you an error
18:50<djfender>bash: openitg: command not found
18:51<Hirschkuh>how did you install it?
18:51<djfender>unzipped :P
18:51<Nemoder>is there a README file with it?
18:51<Hirschkuh>unzipped what? sourcecode, .deb files?
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18:53<deed02392>i followed the guide recommended from someone who did !tell about compiling the kernel. but i got this Kernel: arch/x86/boot/bzImage is ready (#1), what now?
18:55<Hirschkuh>copy it to the boot dir and edit your grub config
18:56<deed02392>just literally cp it to /boot and change lilo to it's name in /boot?
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18:56<djfender>I closed it lol
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18:57<Hirschkuh>you should keep your old kernel
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18:57<Hirschkuh>for the case that the new one wont work ;)
18:57<deed02392>so i'll call it something different yeah
18:57<deed02392>cp ./bzImage /boot/2.6-config-custom-std-ipv4-32
18:57<Hirschkuh>fro example
18:57<Hirschkuh>cp /arch/x86/boot/bzImage
18:57<djfender>djfender@Mizuki:~/oitg/OpenITGprebeta$ ./openitg-sse2
18:57<djfender>bash: ./openitg-sse2: Permission denied
18:58<deed02392>yeah, i already cd'd into there and did that :)
18:58<Hirschkuh>cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/2.6-config-custom-std-ipv4-32
18:58<Hirschkuh>now edit your config and update lilo
18:58<deed02392>so now to edit lilo
18:58<deed02392>which is /etc/lilo.conf?
18:58<Hirschkuh>with lilo i cant help, i use grub, sorry
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18:58<deed02392>i see the line, image=/boot/bzImage-
18:58<deed02392>i'll just change that to the new name
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18:59<Hirschkuh>then you wont be able to boot your old kernel
18:59<Hirschkuh>if you add a new entry with the new kernel, youll be able to boot both
18:59<deed02392>but this server is a dedi in a different country, i won't get the choice anyway will i?
18:59<Hirschkuh>djfender, type chmod +x openitg-sse2
18:59<Hirschkuh>that makes it executable
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19:00<Hirschkuh>in that case youre right :)
19:00<Hirschkuh>though it is a PC at home
19:00<deed02392>so if this kernel goes tits up
19:00<deed02392>there's nothing i can do, is there?
19:00<Hirschkuh>call the operator :D
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19:00<Hirschkuh>or just hope your kernel will work
19:00<deed02392>here goes nothing then
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19:01<Hirschkuh>if the system wont boot, you wont be able to connect, will you?
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19:01<djfender>thanks :)
19:01<deed02392>i doubt it hirschkuh
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19:01<Hirschkuh>what did you change in the config?
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19:04<djfender>how do I check if my OGL is working?
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19:04<djfender>cause it boots it just doesnt want to stay on
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19:07<deed02392>it worked
19:07<deed02392>and i can taste my heart
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19:09<deed02392>now i hope i have modules support
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19:10<deed02392>otherwise that was a whole load of fuss about nothing
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19:20<deed02392>hey, how do i find this?
19:20<deed02392>What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
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19:21<Maulkin>apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`; /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
19:21<Maulkin>I think
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19:21<Maulkin>deed02392: &&
19:21<Maulkin>^^ even
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19:22<deed02392>Couldn't find package linux-headers-
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19:22<sander_m>Hi. I am having a lot of trouble using sftp from my Lenny desktop to my Etch server. Very often the command that executes on the server ends up <defunct> and my client hangs.
19:23<sander_m>Does that sound familiar? Any possible fixes?
19:23<deed02392>apt-get doesn't have my linux header files
19:23<Maulkin>Err... are you runnign your own kernel?
19:23<deed02392>it's probably a custom one yeah, ovh did it
19:24<deed02392>as in the datacenter provider
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19:24<deed02392>is this bad?
19:24<Maulkin>Then you can't expect Debian to have your headers...
19:24<Maulkin>Ask ovh
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19:24<sander_m>Here's the output of `ps-axuf` showing the defunct process:
19:24<deed02392>they won't reply to me, they're terrible
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19:24<deed02392>is there any other way to get my headers
19:24<deed02392>i compiled the kernel myself
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19:25<Maulkin>use your souce tree
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19:26<deed02392>hell yeah
19:26<deed02392>#/usr/src/linux- worked
19:26<deed02392>one step closer to getting vmware working
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19:28<deed02392>f'ing love linux
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19:28<deed02392>exciting stuff
19:28<zimba>Kile suddenly doesn't start on my lenny
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19:31<zimba>I can only see the initial splashscreen of the application
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19:31<zimba>but it doesnt start
19:31<zimba>no messages if I run it from command-line
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19:34<zimba>the same for KWrite
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19:39<tom_123>Hi. I'm running unstable. I can't install mplayer. talks about this, but I don't understand what the final message ( ) means. Any ideas?
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19:43<dondelelcaro>tom_123: it's being rebuilt against a new version of libavcodec, and will be installable once it goes through dinstall
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19:44<zimba>Kile and other kde apps don't start on my lenny after I installed skype, libqt,...
19:44<zimba>what should I do?
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19:51<tom_123>dondelelcaro: Ah, but the build daemons just haven't finished yet? (I remember mplayer taking a while to compile actually)
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20:06<dondelelcaro>tom_123: no, it hasn't been uploaded yet
20:06<CodeBlue>hello, I have a problem, I just bought a VPS (Debian 5) but APT is not installed, how can I install it, dpkg is also not installed
20:06<dondelelcaro>tom_123: the maintainer has added the fix, and it'll probably be uploaded soon
20:07<abrotman>CodeBlue: sounds like they don't want you installing anything ?
20:07<abrotman>CodeBlue: are you sure it's debian?
20:07<dondelelcaro>tom_123: since it's unstable, though, you should be capable of working around this problem yourself by installing the versions of libavcodec from testing or similar.
20:07<CodeBlue>yeah said debian 5 when I purchaced it
20:07<dondelelcaro>well, if it doesn't have apt or dpkg, it's either not Debian, or a hideously broken Debian.
20:08<CodeBlue>its a VPS so i should be allowed to install anything
20:08<abrotman>CodeBlue: cat /etc/debian_version ?
20:08<zumbi>what is a VPS ?
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20:08<abrotman>virtual private server
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20:08<CodeBlue>No such file
20:08<CodeBlue>what the hell did they give me
20:09<CodeBlue>I bet it gave me centOS
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20:10<dondelelcaro>CodeBlue: if they have lsb_release, you could run lsb_release -a; and see what it is
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20:10<zumbi>dpkg: VPS is virtual private server
20:10<dpkg>zumbi: okay
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20:12<CodeBlue>any ideas on what i can do to install APT?
20:12<zumbi>get the source & compile
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20:12<CodeBlue>I bet I cant even compile
20:13<zumbi>debootstrap ?
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20:13<CodeBlue>where do i get APT sources all i can find are .deb's
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20:14<CodeBlue>whats debootstrap
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20:14<dpkg>somebody said debootstrap was <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a <chroot>., or see, or key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System. See to the release specific Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide for ...
20:15<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc> lenny main" and "deb lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
20:15<zumbi>CodeBlue: sources are linked from, you have a tarball and a diff
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20:17<CodeBlue>damn I have to install all the build dep's
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20:19<CodeBlue>this is going to be a nightmare
20:19<CodeBlue>I dont even know what version im using
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20:20<zumbi>CodeBlue: install a real debian
20:20<CodeBlue>its a VPS i cannot
20:21<CodeBlue>I dont think i can ne way
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20:21<CodeBlue>gcc isnt even installed
20:21<CodeBlue>this is a joke
20:22<CodeBlue>when i do uname -r i get 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2ent
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20:24<zumbi>CodeBlue: google says: Red Hat 4.1.2-42 (Linux 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2ent);
20:25<CodeBlue>does redhat have something similar to apt?
20:26<zumbi>yum, rpm, but this is not the right place for such
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20:27<CodeBlue>ok thanks for all ur help, time to write some angry emails.
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20:28<nsa_fiend>i moved a hdd with a lenny install to another box. this box has usb ports on the front panel and a pci card with about 4 more. what do i need to do to be able to use these usb ports? onboard does not seem to be responding to devices plugged in either.
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20:30<tech13>winecfg, vmware and a couple other programs cause xorg to crash on my system. Xorg.0.log at
20:31<tech13>how do I go about fixing it?
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20:31<tech13>err /my system/xorg/
20:32<BaDaSs>rm -rf *
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20:35<JECHO>hey guys
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20:37<nsa_fiend>this channel has really gone downhill
20:38<dpkg>Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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20:40<stew>tech13: hopefully you know better than to listen to BaDaSs
20:42<tech13>stew, At least I didn't tell him about the easy to hack machine at
20:42<pwork>Hello, I installed a lenny 64b and a chrooted lenny 32b : I can't disable beeps in xterm when in chrooted root. I installed all X packages in chrooted lenny 32b, added 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' and 'xset b off' in .xinitrc, .xsession, .bashrc, .profile, and so on, but still beeps : any idea ?
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20:44<pwork>I use ICEwm, maybe it should be put in ~/.icewm/startup script, but I don't think so since this directory doesn't exist for root.
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20:46<pwork>stew is in the matrix
20:46<BaDaSs>he dialed out
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20:46<pwork>OK, I'll use something to deafen my ears so ;) Bye
20:47<pwork>Time to sleep
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20:56<oipunx>hello, just wondering will rsync update changes to dir?
20:56<oipunx>like if i move a dir on hdc will it also move the dir on hdd?
20:57<oipunx>or is it just gonna make another copy but at a new location on hdd
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21:54<panagos>hi, i have a question about postgresql, the initscript has some autovac-* commands, but they don't seem to do anything, what is more the shell prints a 'command not found' error! looks like a bug to me... how is vacuuming handled in the debian postgresql packages? i don't see any cronjobs!
21:57<dondelelcaro>panagos: as of postgresql 8.1, it's done automatically
21:58<dondelelcaro>panagos: that the init script still has the stubs for it is a bug which you could file.
21:58<panagos>dondelelcaro: ah, i see, seems even the official docs are a little outdated on the matter :|
21:59<oipunx>will rsync update changes to dir?
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22:00<dondelelcaro>oipunx: it can
22:03<panagos>dondelelcaro: aha, my bad then, do i have to enable this from the configuration file?
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22:03<dondelelcaro>panagos: I'm pretty sure it's the default
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22:07<oipunx>if i move a dir on hdc will it also move the dir on hdd?
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22:07<oipunx>or is it just gonna make another copy but at a new location on hdd
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22:14<dondelelcaro>oipunx: rsync copies things. what exactly it does depends on the options you've given it
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22:18<trf>If medicine was like computer science: "I was supposed to be performing surgery, but I just started jerking off to porn instead."
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22:29<kop>Does rrdtool support sub-second accuracy? I don't think the version in etch does.... Is there a version that does? (Lenny?)
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22:44<Odinux>I have a question about the cgi-bin directory in the virtual host. I need help.
22:46<Odinux>I want to know how I can make more than one cgi-bin directory active?
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22:48<kop>Odinux : IIRC you can have one per <Directory> directive. Why do you want more than 1? (I suppose you could softlink subdirs inside cgi-bin....)
22:51<Odinux>Can I have one folder CGI-Bin active per virtual host?
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22:55<kop>Odinux : Sure. Just put the directive inside the virtual host directive.
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23:03<Odinux>what is the link for past thing?
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23:05<Odinux>What is the website can I paste my configuration file?
23:05<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
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23:08<Odinux>The first CGI-Bin work but the 2th doesn't want to work:
23:08<Odinux>when I go to the 2th I have to download my .pl file what is the reason about that?
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23:09<Odinux>What is the reason about that the configuration seems to be correct no?
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23:13<Odinux>Can someone can help me with my problem?
23:14<kop>Odinux : Gotta go. When it does not work, how do you know? (You may want to read the apache man pages at
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23:20<ml>amphi: are you around
23:21<ml>thanks for the irssi script suggestion
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23:22<amphi>did you get >
23:22<ml>trackbar nickcolors and ofcourse your theme :)
23:22<amphi>awl is also well worth it IMHO
23:22<ml>could not find it
23:23<amphi>it's not packaed, I think
23:23<ml>it's not packed you beat me to it
23:23<ml>ima doa google search
23:24<amphi>you must get it from, and stick it in ~/.irssi/scripts (with an optional symlink in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun)
23:24<amphi> is quite funny, lets you tab-complete every word
23:24<ml>ok that's how I have them setup in autorun ln -s
23:24<amphi>not overly practical
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23:25<ml>amphi: right now I'm using ...
23:25<ml> old
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23:26<amphi>trackbar is great, IMHO - simple and immensely useful
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23:27<ml>amphi: I agree all your suggestions are much better than before :)
23:28<amphi>how's xmonad treating you?
23:28<ml>amphi: is not at
23:28<ml>amphi: good
23:28<ml>amphi: take a look
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23:29<ml>maybe I'm blind
23:29<amphi>I believe you
23:29<Odinux>The ScriptAlias directive tells Apache that a particular directory is set aside for CGI programs. Apache will assume that every file in this directory is a CGI program, and will attempt to execute it, when that particular resource is requested by a client.
23:29<amphi>does google turn it up?
23:29<Odinux>the question is... can I have more than one cgi-bin directory?
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23:31<ml>amphi: i,m looking
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23:33<amphi>looks likw
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23:33<ml>amphi: how bout
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23:34<amphi>does the url I gave not work?
23:35<ml>yes they are both the same version .6ca
23:35<ml>amphi: same as yours?
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23:36<ml>great :)
23:36<ml>I ln -s let me load it
23:36<amphi>nice, eh?
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23:37<ml>yes very nice :)
23:37<ml>let join another channel\
23:37<amphi>#debian-offtopic ;)
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23:40<Ethaniel>Evening, everyone (01:40 down here)
23:40<snogglethorpe>1240 here
23:40<amphi>Tue Mar 10 03:40:54 GMT 2009
23:41<amphi>bed time ;)
23:41<snogglethorpe>amphi: not hack time?
23:41<snogglethorpe>hack hack hack
23:41<Ethaniel>Question: Which's the opposite of the "mount" command?
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23:42<snogglethorpe>Ethaniel: umount?
23:42<Ethaniel>Tried that, got a "no command found".
23:42<snogglethorpe>Ethaniel: sudo umount?
23:43<snogglethorpe>(named back in the days when "n"s were scarce)
23:43<snogglethorpe>(no more than one per command)
23:43<Ethaniel>Flying as root right now, still got command not found.
23:43<Ethaniel>Do I need a package?
23:44<Ethaniel>Wait: "umount"?
23:44<Ethaniel>Or "unmount"?
23:45<Tom9729>Does anyone know of a way to prevent ssh from reporting it's version number when browsed to with a web browser (ie. I'm running it on a non-standard port and I would like it to not reveal itself if possible.
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23:46<Ethaniel>(Done, one extra "n" was the problem...)
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