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00:17<slimjim>hey can anyone tell me if they have yet got it were you can use thunderbird or something else to check your live mail instead of logging into there website
00:18<monelt>need help
00:18<slimjim>simlar to outlook but without having to use windows,
00:18<monelt>regarding installation
00:18<monelt>dunno how to start asking
00:20<monelt>may i ask where to ask?
00:21<slimjim>monelt what are you exactly trying to do
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00:22<monelt>i having difficulty setting up mirror
00:22<monelt>it keep on telling me
00:22<slimjim>please be more specific
00:22<monelt>bad archive mirror
00:23<monelt>i've choose almost all the country option
00:23<slimjim>are you trying to download somethingis that what you are saying
00:23<monelt>i did follow the instruction given
00:23<monelt>i'm trying to install debian
00:23<monelt>just start
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00:24<slimjim>ok so you have yet to download the ISO correct
00:24<slimjim>ok so i am assuming you are on windows right now then
00:24<monelt>i'm installing debian by boot cd
00:25<monelt>till the part when it ask for the mirror too configure package
00:25<monelt>its stuck
00:25<slimjim>ah i c. ok hold on...did you not want to dl and try the live cd and go that route.
00:25<QPrime>net install cd?
00:25<slimjim>qprime that is what i am trying to figure out
00:26*QPrime backs off and allows the convo to continue uninterrupted :)
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00:27<slimjim>no Qprime by all means you can help cause i am lost, i thought d 5 was not a live boot cd into live system and then run the installer
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00:28<QPrime>thats the best way for someone just getting started - live cd is usually the best option
00:28<slimjim>that is what i was thinking. he was trying to PM but i told him to come back here
00:28<slimjim>monelt do you have the link that you downloaded the iso from
00:29<slimjim>so that i may see exactly what you are refering too
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00:29<slimjim>ok i think i may have found it. you are stating that you have the network install cd correct
00:30<monelt>i explain details
00:30<slimjim>what architect is your chip
00:31<slimjim>have you followed everything in that guide right there
00:31<QPrime> <-- if you are running an intel 32 bit processor
00:31<QPrime>gets you right there
00:32<slimjim>ok monelt i have to agree with QPrime, if you are new to linux and debian you best bet is to get the live cd, any reason you chose the net install instead
00:32<monelt>i try using the live cd
00:32<monelt>if i'm encounter a problem
00:32<QPrime>older pc or newer pc?
00:33<monelt>i'll come back
00:33<monelt>old pc i think
00:33<slimjim>monelt how new is your pc what is the specs on the box you want to load debin in
00:33<QPrime>how much ram?
00:33<slimjim>specifc ie speed not just model
00:33<monelt>512 ddr
00:33<slimjim>hdd space all that
00:33<slimjim>it helps us help you
00:33<QPrime>and clock speed (processor speed)
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00:36<monelt>i get the details
00:37<monelt>512mb ram
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00:38<QPrime>just for your info... a 1GHz PIII with 512MB RAm will do fine with the debian image I posted above. if you are running a slower machine you way want to play with the XFCE version instead. Gnome and XFCE are just disfferent desktop environments for debain. Gnome is a little more power hungy, xfce is a little less. (and so a little faster on older machines) Most people use Gnome, many use another desktop called KDE and others use XFCE or other even
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00:39<QPrime>if in doubt try Gnome or KDE first (they are on different live CD images).
00:39<QPrime>the link I gave you is for a Gnome live CD image
00:40<monelt>thanks for ur info
00:40<monelt>let me try
00:40<QPrime>the Gnome image will run ok on that machine. but you may want to try the XFCE desktop if you are looking for better performance.
00:41<QPrime> <-- for all of the live images (you can select the one you want)
00:42<QPrime>slimjim: sorry for butting in there
00:42<monelt>warm thanks to everyone
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00:43<QPrime>monelt: no problem I'll do (almost) anything to get people off of Windows ;)
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00:44<monelt>at least some with the same thought
00:45<QPrime>I finally ditched windows on my desktop about 2 years ago... happiest moment of my computing life (other than getting my first Commodore Amiga)
00:45<monelt>i was at this company where BSA i can't rephase the short means but in my country they just raid us because we're purchase new oem winXP and install it on used pc
00:46<monelt>just because we're using oem version not the retail version
00:46<goodger>USA! USA!
00:46<QPrime>police action raid, really?
00:46<QPrime>thats insane.
00:46<QPrime>bsa = criminal law enforcement or civil law?
00:47<monelt>something to do with software piracy
00:47<monelt>forgot to mention
00:47<monelt>my country malaysia
00:47<goodger>QPrime: the Business Software Alliance is a US organisation that issues random lawsuits to people in the hope they'll cough up
00:48<monelt>my case because someone complain
00:48<QPrime>goodger: ouch!
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00:48<monelt>and microsoft want to make an example
00:48<goodger>it also conducts armed raids on offices, usually completely against various laws, in the hope of finding evidence of piracy, or at least copyright infringement
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00:48<QPrime>FLOSS is the only way to stay free these days (literally)
00:49<QPrime>goodger: oh, thats just totalitarian!
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00:50<QPrime>guns in offices over WINDOWS?!
00:50<goodger>QPrime: fortunately, they are not active in the united kingdom...
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00:50<QPrime>what ever happened to cease and desist? *sigh*
00:50<goodger>of course, in malaysia, even homosexuality is illegal, so one cannot expect dignified behaviour from capitalists
00:51<rutski>When I do "apt-cache show maxima" I see that the maxima package is in the section "math" section
00:51<rutski>is there anyway to get a list of all other packages in the math section?
00:51<rutski>*any way on the command line, that is
00:51<rutski>it's in "universe/math", actually, because this is ubuntu; but it shouldn't matter I presume
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00:52<QPrime>goodger: thanks for the info. Thats the very reason I run a tor node and a 24/7 torrent server for debian, ubuntu and a few other personal favs.
00:53<goodger>we really should continue this in #debian-offtopic
00:53<jarvis>how to install my: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG on debian lenny?
00:53<QPrime>goodger: there now
00:54<slimjim>QPrime that is not a problem i was tring to figure out exactly what he was having issues with
00:54<jarvis>how to install my: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG on debian lenny?
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00:55<QPrime>slimjim: thanks. poke me if you want to take one solo :)
00:55<chealer>rutski: ask #ubuntu
00:56<rutski>chealer: no, I'd rather just rephrase the question to force you to stop being an asshole about it
00:56<rutski>a debian system I have shows that the maxima package is in "Section: math"
00:56<slimjim>Qprime ah i am still new to it myself. been around linux for years but never really dove in. kinda sat in the shallow end and got my feet wet I am not even running debian but a version of lenny 5 stable tuned to xfce (dreamlinux)
00:56<rutski>so how do I get a listing of all packages in "Section: math" on debian?
00:56<slimjim>but i do like debian and later down the road i may install it on my box also
00:57<chealer>rutski: please watch your language
00:57<rutski>chealer: please watch how you make people feel when you shoo them away from #debian
00:58<QPrime>slimjim: if you wanna chat I'm also in #debian-offtopic
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00:58<slimjim>heading there now
00:58<chealer>rutski: I'm not asking anyone to go away. just stay on topic.
00:59<rutski>chealer: this is on topic; have you even read the question?
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00:59<rutski>chealer: or did you just see "BLAH BLAH BALH ubuntu BLAH BLAH BLAH"?
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00:59<chealer>rutski: I did. Debian is on topic, not Ubuntu.
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00:59<rutski>chealer: did you not notice my trivial rewording of the question into debian terms?
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01:02<chealer>rutski: yes, but I won't encourage cheating. ask #ubuntu
01:02<rutski>chealer: can you explain to me what you mean by "cheating"?
01:02<rutski>I just shut down my install, and rebooted into debian; so you would stop being a bitch about it
01:02<rutski>now I need debian help, so stop telling me to go to #ubuntu you prick
01:04<chealer>rutski:, the noun
01:04<chealer>rutski: please watch your language
01:04<rutski>chealer: fuck you
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01:07<goodger>welcome to #debian, the height of linguistic sophistication
01:07*eramirezgt i need your help
01:07<rutski>goodger: clever :)
01:07<eramirezgt>some people do use mysql-proxy
01:08<eramirezgt>i need configurate mysql-proxy
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01:08<rutski>goodger: funny how eramirezgt comes in with that sort of grammar right after you say that :)
01:08<eramirezgt>but i cannot find a tutorial for mysql-proxy
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01:11<GinoMan>question: I wanna do OpenGL development on my Linux Box (I'm trying to learn how to do OpenGL) and I need the gl glu and glut dev libraries for my ATI card. I'm on AMD 644 Debian Testing... The Packages manager won't let me download the GL dev libraries
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01:12<Steven_M>hi all
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01:12<GinoMan>Hey steven
01:13<GinoMan>I'm trying to get the OpenGL dev libraries on debian testing for the ATI binary Fglrx driver
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01:14<Steven_M>what pakage should I install to get XFT support?
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01:15<Steven_M>hi GinoMan
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01:18<eramirezgt>GinoMan: do use sometime mysql-proxy?
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01:20<eramirezgt>mm it's ok
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01:22<GinoMan>I had to remove backports to get it to work
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01:23<Steven_M>what pakage should I install to get -X11XFT support?
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02:04<yury>/apps/gnome-keyring/daemon-components/ssh has no effect. How do I disable gnome-keyring. It breaks functionality and easy of use by trying every since key in my .ssh directory, starting with the wrong one which I always deny.
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02:27<panv>hello channel.
02:27<panv>good morning everyone.
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02:34<Necrun>hi, does anyone know why when i run this 'xrandr --output monitor-LVDS --off', only appears this msg: "xrandr: Server RandR version before 1.2"??
02:35<Steven_M>the script to install xmobar is complaing about dependancies that I've already installed. Here's the output:
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02:44<Steven_M>any ideas?
02:44<jm_>Necrun: our X server should support randr 1.3 for this to work
02:45<ml>Steven_M: look in the #xmonad
02:46<Necrun>brb then XD
02:47<jm_>you need xorg 1.6 for that
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02:51<Steven_M>ml: sorry, I didn't see that before.
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02:52<Necrun>jm_, thx man it works XD i just updated my intel driver but I forgot to update xorg XD
02:52<jm_>Necrun: are you using unstable?
02:53<jm_>yeah that one has it
02:53<jm_>out of curiosity - what kind of chipset do you have?
02:54<ml>Steven_M: np, let me know it goes
02:54<Necrun>intel 915
02:55<jm_>ahh old one
02:55<Necrun>yeah it sucks XD
02:55<jm_>sure, it's made by intel, all their graphic chips suck
02:55<Necrun>haha yeah
02:56<Necrun>my desktop pc is dead so i need to use this one :(
02:57<Necrun>nvidia has the best drivers i think, the problem is they aren't open :/
02:57<jm_>yeah, we'll see how open the drivers for real graphic cards from intel will be in 2010
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03:55<datak>uhhmm... buenos dias ;) café con Debian...
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03:57<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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04:04<datak>sorry, I just typed in the wrong window X)
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04:06<datak>stupid windows
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04:27<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on
04:28<ml>oh too late
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05:10<pawel>how to process triggers when program is installed?
05:10<jm_>what triggers?
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05:17<Hamael>i need to setup somesort of filesharing system that my server can store backupfiles on once a month, is there somesort of protected filesharing i can use for that?
05:17<Hamael>this is a debian client pc..
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05:19<jm_>what is meant with protected filesharing?
05:20<Hamael>so other client computers cant connect and copy the files
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05:20<jm_>nfs allows for this, so does samba
05:20<avu>or sftp or webdav or anything really
05:21<jm_>yeah, heck you could use rcp if you wanted ;)
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05:21<petern>rsync + ssh
05:21<Hamael>thanks =D
05:21<avu>real men built their own system with netcat and a giant shellscript
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05:23<jm_>yeah rdiff-backup is also useful
05:23<pawel>jm_: ahen I use apt-get there is sth like " processing triggers for menu" but aptitude does not do that and I can't launch program
05:23<jm_>pawel: it's dpkg that does this
05:23<pawel>how to do that on installed program?/
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05:24<jm_>pawel: you can also use update-menus
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05:24<Hamael>im fresh with linux.. how do i launch these programs?
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05:55<stevem_>Lo, instead of uprgading my server from etch to lenny... I'm thinking about rebuilding it in a virtual machine as lenny and then copying the filesystem over to the live 'real' box after
05:55<stevem_>is this advisable and what should I watch out for?
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05:57<jm_>stevem_: installing lenny and then copying over etch will do wonders for you
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05:58<petern>copying user data is fine
05:59<petern>but that's all
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06:03<stevem_>OK instead I'm gonna take the HDD out, boot it on another server (not same hardware but it'll have to do)
06:04<stevem_>and rebuild a lenny install on a new hard drive in the hardware it'll actually be used on
06:04<stevem_>does that sound better?
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06:41<kaiten4>I have debian live on flash, is there any way I can install debian with it?
06:41<jm_>you can always use debootstrap
06:42<kaiten4>that's right
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06:45<student>hai noroc
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06:51<zem>i have AMD sempron, if i buy athlon X2, will my deb work fine or do i have to do something?
06:52<jm_>it will work fine
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06:52<zem>great, it better work better ^^
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07:13<henke>hi there.... how can I install gcc-2.95 in debain lenny ?
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07:14<henke>tryed apt-get install gcc-2.95 but that dont work.... quite new to debian, so I need help :-)
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07:15<jm_>henke: you need to install it from etch
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07:15<sachin>does any body have an idea of multi-seat on ubuntu intrepid
07:15<jm_>!tell sachin -about ubuntu
07:16<sachin>yaa...i wanna make my intrepid machine as a multi - seat
07:16<henke>jm_, how do I install from etch
07:16<henke>just to add that in source.list ?
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07:16<jm_>henke: the easiest is to go to web page, find the packages and install them by hand
07:17<jm_>yeah you can use apt too
07:17<sachin>is there any package for multi seat in ubuntu
07:17<avu>sachin, read what the bot told you about ubuntu
07:17<henke>ok, gonna see if google can show me any good url to add in soruce.list
07:18<jm_>try copying what you have but change stable/lenny to oldstable
07:18<sachin>i am not getting u avu
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07:18<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
07:18<avu>sachin, there you go
07:18<slimjim>jm_ hey how is it going
07:19<sachin>ok....sorry guys
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07:19<slimjim>jm_ i got that usb drive formated but now i can not seem to figure how to change permision on it. it wont let me make new folders nore copy information to it
07:19<jm_>slimjim: fs type?
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07:20<henke>jm_, looks like this - lenny main
07:20<slimjim>fs is ext3
07:20<avu>slimjim, change the permissions as root to allow the user to write
07:20<jm_>henke: yeah copy it and change lenny to oldstable
07:21<avu>slimjim, chown -R youruser: /mount/point for example
07:21<slimjim>avu that is what i am trying to remember how to do =). without actually logging in as root. i was trying to remember how to do that in terminal
07:21<slimjim>ah ok gotcah let me try that
07:21<henke>jm_, worked as a charm, thanx allot !!
07:22<avu>slimjim, well, you should probably read chown(1) to see if that really is what you want first :)
07:23<slimjim>it says operation not permitted
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07:24<jm_>slimjim: alternatively, simply mount it as user who needs to copy
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07:26<slimjim>i get invalid argument
07:26<jm_>don't forget user will need to be able to access device files
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07:27<jm_>ahh no idiot, mount is suid
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07:27<jm_>what happens if you try to mount it as user?
07:28<slimjim>hold on there is an error with something i just dmesg | tail after i unpluged and re pluged it in
07:28<slimjim>EXT3-fs error (device sda1) let me pastbin it for ya
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07:32<jm_>sounds like there's an error reading or writing from/to it
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07:33<slimjim>yea i am thinking taht is the issues =)...ok let me start from scratch again. with it
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07:37<debam>hi to all ,why this error is coming while printing on shared printer .. NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
07:38<debam>printer is shared using samba
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07:51<pawel>do you know any good & light graphical archive manager?
07:51<dr|z3d>pawel: fileroller is fine.
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07:52<dr|z3d>aptitude install file-roller
07:53<pawel>will it rou on <300mhx & 64m ram?
07:54<ml>pawel: instead on installing file-roller use the terminal
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07:55<pawel>I don't know where Iceweasel downloads files. xD
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07:56<pawel>do you know?
07:57<dr|z3d>Probably the desktop by default.. check fileweasel's download options, pawel
07:57<streuner__>~/Desktop by default
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08:17<makkan>Hello.. could someone what type of frontend is being user in Lennys graphical install?
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08:18<makkan>Hello.. Could someone tell me what type of frontend is being used in lennys grapical install
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08:25<ml>!tell tn -about ask
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08:29<makkan>What would be the sugestion if i want a very easy programming interface for making gui apps? I'm using dialog now, and have tried xdialog, and i think i want something a little bit more advanced. I'm currently only doing shell scripts and php.. so if it uses c or c++ or something like that it most be really easy
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08:30<jm_>makkan: you can use gtk or qt, or perl/python/whatever with gtk/qt bindings
08:30<jm_>or even tcl or */tk ;)
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08:34<makkan>jm_: tcl/tk looks like the one that would be most easy to learn.. Could i have right?
08:35<jm_>makkan: yeah it is easy
08:35<makkan>jm_: then i will try and see if thats something use
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08:55<teen_quiet>is there gain or loss with NFS and SSHFS?
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08:55<teen_quiet>ooops /and/or/
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09:11<buk>hello. can someone help me with this problem: i dont have sound on kubuntu 8.10
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09:11<gsimmons>!tell buk -about kubuntu
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09:13<kapil>teen_quiet: you shouldn't gain or lose files with either! perhaps your question is "which is better" to which the answer is "depends on what you want to use it for".
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09:29<karpe>i have question.. why 64bit cpu was produced slowly? 8>16>32 bit was fast but 64bit....
09:30<petern>1) 32 bit was adequate for a long time
09:30<petern>2) 64 bit CPUs have been around a lot longer than before they became mainstream
09:31<jm_>yeah non-x86 worlds knew 64bit CPU-s quite a long time ago
09:31<petern>1961 according to wikipedia :)
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09:32<karpe>but 64bit cpu show up recently in persnal computer
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09:33<petern>see point 1 :)
09:33<Gun_Smoke>32 is still fine..
09:33<Gun_Smoke>for a long time to come..
09:33<karpe>more explain plz
09:34<Gun_Smoke>karpe, I'd guess well over 70% of the 32 bit processors sit idol 95% of their running time..
09:35<Gun_Smoke>32 bit is over kill to surf the web and check email.. 32 bit handles everything thrown at it today.
09:35<jm_>640KB is enough for everyone
09:37<llutz>no need for more than 5 computers worldwide
09:38<Gun_Smoke>I'd bet 32 bit is still ticking along 5 years from now..
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09:39<petern>up until 2038 :)
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09:40<llutz>let's meet 20th jan then
09:41<petern>The AS/400 virtual instruction set defines all pointers as 128-bit.
09:41<petern>nice :D
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09:43<karpe>hm.. then when 64bit show up why programmers don't produce 64bit's softwares? 64bit no merit?
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09:44<slimjim>hey everyone. I am wondering what would be the best partion to make a ext hard drive that is 1tb in size and is USB connected. main use will be linux but once in a blue moon i will need to be able to address it in windows
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09:45<llutz>slimjim: your own win? then use ext3 + win drivers from otherwise ntfs
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09:46<gnewb>karpe: I would think it is market driven, i.e. if 85% of boxes are 32 and 10% are 64, or some weird math like that, I have no idea what the market share or user share of the two are.
09:46<slimjim>ok and llutz when it comes time to do the mkfs then what is the best way to do that. (mkfs.ext3 -F /dev/sda) correct
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09:47<llutz>slimjim: make a partition, /dev/sdXY
09:47<slimjim>right it would be /dev/sda1
09:47<slimjim>i gotcha
09:47<jm_>slimjim: no question then, vfat/ntfs/exfat
09:47<slimjim>jm_ yea still having issues with this thing
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09:48<slimjim>i stop for a little bit and slept but looking at it again
09:48<llutz>vfat only if you can live with filesize-limitation to 4GB
09:48<jm_>slimjim: I wonder if it's the last sector thing - is the sector number the same as in /proc/partitions for it?
09:48<gnewb>slimjim: Yes, the /dev/sd* has to be a more noncommittal than an actual Linux part.
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09:49<slimjim>ok well for somereason i can not get gparted to read the thing, and have been using fdisk in termnail mode
09:49<gnewb>Does the BIOS 'see' it?
09:50<slimjim>my bios is to old. wont see usb bootable till after
09:50<slimjim>i am not able to boot off of thumb or ext hdd
09:50<slimjim>so i am guessing that is what you are asking
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09:50<slimjim>my laptop bios will see it tho..that is a new computer
09:51<gnewb>Upgrade or update the BIOS?
09:52<slimjim>it is the latest bios aval for the chipset
09:52<slimjim>old Mobo
09:52<slimjim>that is waht i get now i just pluged it in and (dmesg | tail) brings that back
09:54<gnewb>I know there are some sites that have flash disks or like that that way you can update the BIOS on the one, or second use the good one and network them.
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09:55<gnewb>Like Box1,Laptop2, sorta
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09:55<slimjim>it worked on the box before i layed linus it was winxp before i changed to linux on it
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09:55<slimjim>but then linux was having issues addressing the drive. would allow me to change permision so i could write to it on linux
09:55<kurumin>i aeww
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09:56<gnewb>I had a like error on an old AMD and an older ITRONIX, I just upgraded or flashed the BIOS on them. whichever was needed.
09:58<slimjim>ok well i solved that first one, for some reason this drive does not spin down. after being edited. via fdisk it has sep power source other then usb
09:58<gnewb>Internal battery?
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09:59<slimjim> power adapter
09:59<slimjim>it is a western digital element ext 1tb drive
10:00<gnewb>I know there is a fix for that, it has just been so long since I did or tried it, and I forget stuff easily.
10:01<slimjim>ok i got it to fdisk and that is what i got now
10:01<slimjim>let me know if that looks right before i make file system
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10:03<llutz>"unknown partition table" sounds not "right" ...
10:03<gnewb>I think the sda is off
10:03<jm_>he probably wiped it with dd again
10:03<llutz>pastebin "fdisk -l"
10:03<gnewb>Maybe sdb or like llutz said, /sdXYZ
10:03<slimjim>llutz last pastbin was fdisk -l
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10:04<llutz>slimjim: nope, dmesg
10:04<Clear>Hi, I'm trying to use a ./Config command to maken something, but it says permission denied =/
10:04<slimjim>tell me what that has should be fdisk -l
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10:05<llutz>dmesg||tail james@blackbox
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10:05<slimjim>ok i gtocah llutz you want that output is what you are lookig for correct
10:05<slimjim>or is that what you see for that pastbin
10:06<llutz>slimjim: pastebin "fdisk -l"
10:07<slimjim>sorry something was up with pastbin i was seeing it change on my end but the server was not. that should be better
10:07<llutz>looks fine
10:07<gnewb>That looks alot better
10:08<llutz>"mkfs.ext3 -m0 /dev/sda1 "then
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10:08<slimjim>alright doing that now
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10:10<slimjim>it is writing the table
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10:10<llutz>maybe do this after finishing: tune2fs -i 180d -c 0 /dev/sda1
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10:11<slimjim>llutz gotcha it will be a min before it is done tho. only at 82/7453
10:11<llutz>go for some coffee ;)
10:11<slimjim>nah some breakfast with the kids
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10:19<ken> Ident
10:20<bytologist>is there some program that basically does "cat < /dev/pty/ptNN & cat > /dev/pty/ptNN" and doesn't try to change terminal settings on the way?
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10:21<jm_>bytologist: perhaps you're lookin gfor ttysnoop, no idea
10:21<bytologist>trying that...
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10:23<bytologist>jm_: no that's not what i am looking for
10:25<dondelelcaro>bytologist: what, like screen /dev/pty/ptNN; ?
10:25<bytologist>or picocom /dev/pty/ptNN
10:25<bytologist>but without messing with terminal settings
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10:33<meshuggah>hi there
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10:34<meshuggah>damn i slept with the windows opens (it is -23C outside) it is cold inside
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10:36<bytologist>finally found: socat - /dev/pts/12
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10:40<amjad>how can I configure exim as send only mode?
10:41<petemc>tell it not to listen on an interfaces
10:41<amjad>petemc, thanks
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10:43<amjad>petemc, do I tell it to listen on
10:43<petemc>wouldnt hurt
10:43<amjad>If I leave dc_local_interfaces blank, it listens on all interfaces
10:44<meshuggah>can i stop exim4 to be loaded each boot, it was about 20 second of my boot-time ?
10:44<meshuggah>it waste
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10:44<petemc>meshuggah: it only does that because you have an interface broughgt up but without a working link
10:45<petemc>but if you want, update-rc.d -f exim4 remove
10:45<meshuggah>yeah i think it saw me some error message when i installed debian
10:46<meshuggah>what about making a working link?
10:46<petemc>amjad: you can double check with exim4 -bP local_interfaces , thats the canonical way
10:46<amjad>thanks petemc
10:46<meshuggah>(btw, i am newbie)
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10:47<meshuggah>how can i easily configure exim4
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10:48<amjad>meshuggah, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
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10:48<meshuggah>amjad, thank
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10:48<amjad>meshuggah, welcome
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10:49<meshuggah>amjad, what is smarthost? :)
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10:49<meshuggah>i dont think i will send mail with this computer, i usually use gmail
10:50<amjad>meshuggah, the mail server you want all your emails sent thriugh
10:50<slimjim>does anyone know if live mail has been config to work with eveolotion or thunderbird yet
10:50<petemc>live mail?
10:50<meshuggah>i am using this computer like a home computer, not a server
10:51<prahal>ms webmail
10:51<petemc>meshuggah: you can leave it unconfigured then, and use the update-rc.d comman i mentioned earlier to prevent exim from starting
10:51<prahal>slimjim: you should look after fetchmail like fetchers
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10:52<slimjim>ok thanks
10:52<meshuggah>petemc, thank
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10:53<kop>!why an mta
10:53<dpkg>An MTA should be on most unix(ish) systems to provide a way for various services to deliver asynchronous system or error messages. This includes things like cron and at (to give you the output of jobs) and various daemons (e.g. the init script of mysql). The mta does not have to listen to network ports so spam and security issues are largely irrelevant. Ask me about <nullmailer>.
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10:53<dpkg>i guess mta is Mail Transfer Agent: a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/lib/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>.
10:54<meshuggah>i will try a reboot
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10:54<StarkD>the APT plugin for gnome panel, does that use apt-get or aptitude when you use it to update the system?
10:55<petemc>it may just use libapt
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10:56<petemc>StarkD: but i dont know, you could run it and check ps
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10:57<meshuggah>it boots a little faster now
10:57<StarkD>petemc: I'll try to remember that next time it pops up. but it doesn't happen so often on debian :)
10:58<amjad>Is there any book available on debian 5?
10:58<petemc>amjad: its being worked on, apparently
10:58<petemc>same chap that wrote the last one, madduch
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10:59<amjad>petemc, which one you are talking about?
10:59<petemc>not the oreilly one
10:59<petemc>the most recent one
10:59<amjad>petemc, its name?
11:00<amjad>thanks petemc , got it
11:00<meshuggah>why when i booted, it said me 100% used in /usr, and now that i check, it say 431 Mb free
11:01<meshuggah>I used the debian way to partition my hd in 7 partitions, and i repartitionned it 3 times since, i think the debian way sucks
11:01<petemc>different people have different needs
11:01<meshuggah>maybe i am installing too much thing in synaptic :)
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11:02<petemc>tho, i see no reason to partition your hard disk up now, with disks as large as they are and filesystems as good as they are
11:02<meshuggah>i only have 3 X 40 Gb
11:03<meshuggah>i tried installing opensolaris but it hate my 256mb ram
11:03<meshuggah>and i wont reinstall the winshit crap
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11:03<amjad>petemc, these covers deb 3.1
11:03<petemc>amjad: did you read what i typed?
11:03<petemc>14:58 < petemc> amjad: its being worked on, apparently
11:04<amjad>petemc, but u said the most recent one
11:04<petemc>is there a more recent debian book?
11:05<amjad>ohh, i got your point
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11:07<amjad>thanks petemc
11:08<karpe>pure 64bit // 64bit what's difference??
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11:15<slimjim>had anyone here ever messed with getlive
11:15<slimjim>just looking for a wiki or howto so i can setup my live account with evo
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11:18<petemc>StarkD: dont ms offer pop3 access now?
11:20<petemc>slimjim: ^^^^
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11:21<omes>does volatile have their own channel?
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11:23<meshuggah>i want to use ffmpeg to convert video file to put on my creative zen, someone can help me?
11:24<slimjim>petemc not sure i just found something on it but i belive it is for paid accounts
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11:27<amjad>I am trying to forward root's emails to two users abc@localhost and Can I do that do like root: abc@localhost in /etc/aliases?
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11:27<amjad>I tried it, it does not work
11:27<petemc>amjad: use a comma
11:27<petemc>root: foo, bar
11:28<amjad>petemc, thanks
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11:28<amjad>petemc, shoudn't it work with a space?
11:29<petemc>it works with a comma, is that not ok?
11:29<petemc>exim4 -d -bt root
11:29<petemc>check yourself
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11:30<amjad>its ok
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11:35<meshuggah>can someone help me with ffmpeg?
11:36<meshuggah>i want to convert .flv file i get from youtube, and put them on my creative zen 2gb
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11:39<petemc>meshuggah: and whats stopping you?
11:40<meshuggah>petemc, i tried various things(like ffmpeg -i video1.flv -aspect 4:3 -s qvga -vcodec libxvid -acodec copy -ab 96k video1.avi), copying my converted file on my zen with gnomad2, and the zen dont recognize it
11:41<prahal>meshuggah: try winff
11:42<meshuggah>prahal, ok, thank
11:42<meshuggah>synaptic cant install winff
11:42<meshuggah>it get me some error
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11:44<meshuggah>cant install ubuntu-restricted files
11:44<meshuggah>i am using lenny
11:44<prahal>hum seems the debian multimedia does not ship with all the available profiles for winff
11:44<prahal>meshuggah: it is in debian multimedia
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11:46<meshuggah>my winff rep was set to ubuntu(i dont have ubuntu, but debian)
11:47<meshuggah>i tried editing ubuntu for debian, and intrepid by lenny
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11:47<meshuggah>anyway thank
11:48<prahal>meshuggah: update it is in debian sid
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11:50<prahal>meshuggah: and presets to put in ~/.winff/preset.xml are in /usr/share/winff/
11:50<meshuggah>even in they say to use ubuntu intrepid
11:50<prahal>they tell they have a common PPA for ubuntu and debian
11:51<meshuggah>it is what i was reading :)
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11:54<meshuggah> Dépend : libgtk2.0-0 (>=2.14.1) mais 2.12.11-4 doit être installé
11:54<meshuggah> Dépend : libpango1.0-0 (>=1.21.6) mais 1.20.5-3 doit être installé
11:54<meshuggah> Recommande: ubuntu-restricted-extras but it is not installable ou
11:54<meshuggah> kubuntu-restricted-extras mais ne peut être installé ou
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11:54<prahal>meshuggah: (Change intrepid to hardy for debian stable)
11:55<meshuggah>ui will try
11:55<prahal>though I agree this is dirty ... I did not knew their was this ppa beforehand . Trying myself to see what it s worth
11:56<meshuggah>you are a genious!
11:56<meshuggah>it is installing now
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11:57<meshuggah>lol, google made youtube not viewable in china
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11:58<meshuggah>i can run winff now, thank, prahal
11:59<meshuggah>i will be able to mass-convert my .flv file to get them viewable on my tv-dvd
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12:00<meshuggah>ok, it only choose other codec that i didnt tried
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12:00<prahal>neat :) well about china they still have WoW . I believe they will not touch at this great piece of democracy in fear of a revolution :(
12:00<meshuggah>wmv2 and wmav2
12:01<meshuggah>yea they love mmorpg
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12:02<prahal>still in the process of installing latest winff and I will test if the extended presets available in /usr/share/winff/ to see what they provide and if they work with debian multimedia ffmpeg
12:02<meshuggah>ok, what is extended presets? :)
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12:03<meshuggah>sorry, i am using a computer since msdos 3.0, but i still sucks in gnu/linux
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12:04<meshuggah>no, the converted file doesnt work in my zen
12:04<prahal>more selection of conversions
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12:04<meshuggah>prahal, ok, should be good
12:04<meshuggah>korg, hi
12:05<korg>Tell me please, to whom I can refer to adding a new consultant for Debian in Ukraine (Kiev)?
12:06<omes>does anyone here work with volatile?
12:06<meshuggah>i cant tell you, sorry
12:06<omes>korg: there is a list on somewhere
12:06<omes>don't remember where though
12:06<gsimmons>korg: See
12:07<omes>what gsimmons said ;)
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12:08<omes>korg: wait a bit and try again later
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12:09<omes>ok, so nobody here into the archives or volatile?
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12:16<NinjaMan>can I use an ubuntu package in debian?
12:18<binarymutant>NinjaMan, ya
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12:18<prahal>meshuggah: cd ~/.winff; mv preset.xml preset_old.xml; cp /usr/share/winff/presets-libavcodec52-v3.xml preset.xml preset.xml
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12:18<prahal>there is zen profiles
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12:19<NinjaMan>binarymutant: are there typical problems I should look out for (I want to install the latest binary only nvidia driver)
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12:19<meshuggah>prahal : i succeed to convert a file(10 secs ago)
12:20<prahal>yup bvut with presets it is easier :)
12:20<meshuggah>proablby :)
12:20<meshuggah>i will do what u said
12:20<craigevil>NinjaMan: rather than messing with ubuntu packages take a look at
12:20<meshuggah>prahal, thank you a lot :)
12:20<binarymutant>NinjaMan, that might be a problem, if you want the newest driver try compiling it from the source. That way you wont have to worry
12:20<NinjaMan>ok craigevil
12:21<NinjaMan>binarymutant: I've been trying to create a deb package from the latest nvidia driver 96.43.11 source
12:21<NinjaMan>but have been failing miserably
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12:22<meshuggah>prahal : u have some error in what u said
12:22<meshuggah>prahal : first it is presets.xml with a s at the end
12:22<meshuggah>after it show me an error (cp /usr/share/winff/presets-libavcodec52-v3.xml preset.xml preset.xml)
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12:22<meshuggah>presets.xml isnt a directory
12:23<binarymutant>NinjaMan, I think they're on 180..29 now :/
12:23<NinjaMan>I have an old card so have to use the legacy driver 96.43.XX
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12:24<prahal>oups only once sorry : cp /usr/share/winff/presets-libavcodec52-v3.xml preset.xml
12:24<NinjaMan>craigevil: I went to the site you suggested, but can't see how it helps me
12:24<prahal>bad cut n paste bad
12:24<binarymutant>NinjaMan, the people on #debian-mentors might be better help
12:24<meshuggah>prahal : ok sorry i wasnt sure, i am a newbie :)
12:24<meshuggah>prahal, thank for your help
12:25<meshuggah>prahal : i dont have /usr/share/winff/presets-libavdicde52-v3.xml
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12:25<davius>hey bony... this
12:25<NinjaMan>ok binarymutant - thanks
12:25<davius>hey bony... this's sagar
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12:26<bony>davius, check your Private Messages
12:26<prahal>meshuggah: libavcodec52 or libavdicde52 ?
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12:26<meshuggah>i have 52
12:27<meshuggah>or 52-v3
12:27<meshuggah>or 51-v3
12:27<prahal>52-v3 is the right one
12:27<meshuggah>not 52-v3
12:27<meshuggah>i only have 51-v3
12:27<meshuggah>or 52-v2
12:27<meshuggah>sorry i the keys on my keyboard are always moving...:D
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12:28<meshuggah>i should check what i type before pressing enter
12:28<prahal>hum it may not be the same version for unstable (what I have installed as I am using sid on this test box) and stable
12:28<prahal>try the 52-v2
12:28<prahal>oh wait
12:29<prahal>apt-cache depends ffmpeg does it list libavcodec52 or libavcodec51 ?
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12:30<prahal>then use 51-v3
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12:31<meshuggah>prahal : ok i got more preset
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12:31<meshuggah>prahal : which one should i use for creative zen?
12:31<meshuggah>will Ipod works?
12:31<prahal>meshuggah: don't you have "Creative Zen" ?
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12:32<meshuggah>i have a creative zen, but WinFF doesnt me the choice for creative zen
12:33<meshuggah>btw, i am sorry for eyes of everybody here, my english sucks
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12:33<karpe>is there man who know about window's programming channel??
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12:33<meshuggah>prahal : do you think if you send me your file by email, it should works?
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12:34<dpkg>hello, zumbi
12:35<zumbi>do you know how can i measure wireless transfer data rates (does wget tell about Mbps?)
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12:35<llutz>it does
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12:36<zumbi>llutz: it tells me something like vmlinux 5% |* | 1492k 00:00:37 ETA
12:37<llutz>zumbi: it shows summary after transfer. iperf should be more precise
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12:37<zumbi>that is busybox wget
12:38<prahal>meshuggah: it may though you could get it from
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12:38<llutz>wget shows me something like: 2009-03-25 17:38:06 (7,12 KB/s) .... at the end
12:39<meshuggah>prahal, thank for all your help and your time
12:39<meshuggah>i will try
12:39<llutz>GNU Wget 1.11.4
12:40<prahal>no pb I already had told to use winff though never knew about those problems ... Next time I ll tell it is prwerfull though requires a bit of work
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12:42<meshuggah>prahal : ok i have the choice now, i will try
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12:47<zumbi>llutz: the wget i use it is a busybox wget, which it is a bit different
12:47<zumbi>llutz: i am learning on how to use iperf :-)
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12:49<llutz>zumbi: ah sry, i misread that
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12:55<meshuggah>prahal, it is working nice, thank a lot :)
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13:06<davius>How do I mount Windows partitions in linux?
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13:07<davius>I need help mounting windows partitions
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13:26<mabu>Hello, could anyone please tell me some current debian build systems that have a configuration framework for packages?
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13:28<gravity>mabu: What do you mean exactly?
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13:28<gravity>mabu: Or rather, what do you want to do?
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13:34<mabu>I want to build a package that configures a zabbix_agent
13:35<mabu>and need a configuration framework so that the user can configure it when he installs the package from console or gui
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13:38<gravity>mabu: You'll want to write yourself a custom script that uses debconf.
13:38<gravity>mabu: There's no build system that does this for you, since configuration is entirely program-dependant.
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13:39<LiCeT>hi all
13:39<gravity>mabu: But debconf is quite easy to use, and there's a tutorial on it in the debconf docs, as well as a lot of useful information in the debconf policy, contained in the debian-policy package
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13:39<fortunachris>hi there
13:39<mabu>thanks a lot
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13:42<meshuggah>hello fortunachris
13:42<meshuggah>hello LiCeT
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13:45<gnewb>How do I update or refresh the keys?
13:46<gnewb>The gpg keys or something is fowling my updates and other stuff.
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13:50<LiCeT>hello meshuggah ...sorry :)
13:50<meshuggah>LiCeT, no problem
13:50<fortunachris>hi meshuggah
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13:57<Wezz6400>hi, I'm running lenny and I've set the guid bit on a directory (chmod g+s) however it somehow gets removed regularly, does anyone have an idea how to fix that?
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14:03<wferi>Hi! How can I get sbuild build a new upstream version? It keeps looking for the orig.tar.gz, and can't find it, of course...
14:03<mruwzten>hey, is there a way to tell aptitude to accept non-authenticated packages from _one_ mirror but not the others?
14:03<wferi>It's present in my filesystem only.
14:03<mruwzten>dilemma is, i want to auto-download packages at night (not install them) but I want secure-apt to work for the debian mirrors and there is just this one source where that is not feasable.
14:04<mruwzten>wferi: why do you need to use sbuild?
14:04<mruwzten>wferi: use pbuilder, create a source package, build it.
14:04<wferi>Because I don't want to install build-deps from experimental on my development machine
14:05<mruwzten>wferi: that's why you would use pbuilder.
14:05<wferi>yeah, I tried pbuilder and didn't like it.
14:05<mruwzten>hm. ok.
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14:05<wferi>so I'd prefer an sbuild solution.
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14:06<wferi>If there's none, the I'll go back to pbuilder, where I migrated from.
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14:06<mruwzten>wferi: then please apologize my unqualified ramble.
14:06<mruwzten>wferi: :)
14:07<wferi>:) thanks anyway, I'm no zealot.
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14:11<mruwzten>also, using different sources.lists for the different updates.
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14:11<meshuggah>prahal : do u know how can i make preset
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14:12<pester>i'm using tar and all the file are extracting to the current dir. tar isn't preserving the filestructure inside the archive.
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14:13<bytologist>Fun typo of the day: "Upgrade opwnswan version"
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14:16<wferi>mruwzten: what do you mean by different sources.lists?
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14:17<mruwzten>wferi: well. i use cron-apt to download upgrades over night. i want to allow exactly one mirror to be not authenticated. so i create two different sources.lists and run aptitude update and aptitude -d safe-upgrade twice with those different sources.lists. for the one mirror sources list, i allow unauthenticated packages for the others i don't.
14:17<wferi>got it.
14:18<mruwzten>wferi: no rocket science. but hey, i'm a sociologist :)
14:19<wferi>:) sure you waste some resources, but if it works, then more power to you.
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14:20<mruwzten>wferi: do you have a more efficient solution?
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14:23<slimjim>llutz are you around. what was the coomand to do with tune2fs that you said to do after i finished making the filesystem
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14:25<llutz>slimjim: tune2fs -i 180d -c 0 /dev/sda1
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14:26<llutz>slimjim: sets annoying fs-checks to absolute minimum, should be ok on ext3 (or other journalling fs)
14:27<slimjim>ok i did that and got a bad magic number in super block while trying to open dev
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14:28<johnnym_>oh hi
14:28<johnnym_>this is not Kansas any more!?
14:28<slimjim>for some reason after the mkfs it did not remount the drive but got no erros when the mkfs was perfoming
14:29<meshuggah>fuck the government
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14:29<meshuggah>fcking harper cant event speak french
14:29<meshuggah>he sould die
14:30<slimjim>llutz here is dmesg | tail output
14:32<Clear>Do you guys a program for executing bash commands in Windows? I need to learn *NIX :S
14:32<slimjim>llutz got any ideas
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14:33<meshuggah>Clear, you want to learn, install debian
14:33<llutz>slimjim: re plug-in the drive and check again.
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14:33<llutz>Clear: gnu32 tools for win
14:33<meshuggah>Clear, dual-boot if u are afraid
14:33<Clear>I did that, but I don't understand how to work with it
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14:33<slimjim>i did keep getting the same output
14:34<llutz>slimjim: try mkfs again
14:34<meshuggah>Clear, dammit, you have gnome/kde/xfce....?????
14:34<Clear>:=No, text, I don't know how to setup a desktop :s
14:34<slimjim>that will take a while i will let you know th eoutcome
14:34<Clear>If someone can help me with that, that would be great
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14:36<meshuggah>Clear, do you have debian installed?
14:37<meshuggah>Clear, so u need help with what exactly?
14:37<Clear>Setup KDE desktop
14:37<Clear>I don't understand how
14:37<Clear>A tutorial link would be great
14:39<meshuggah>Clear, ??
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14:40<Clear>I'm using lenny :(
14:41<meshuggah>Clear, what do you not understand?
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14:42<fortunachris>Clear, replace all etches with lenny whilst reading
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14:42<Clear>Well, people say the desktop is already preinstalled on Debian by default, but when I start Debian, I have to press CTRL + ALT + F1 or my monitor will keep black... :s
14:43<meshuggah>gnome is the default, not kde
14:43<Clear>Ok, but it doesn't start? :(
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14:43<meshuggah>Clear, waht is your computer?
14:44<Clear>Acer Aspire T180-GB7z
14:44<meshuggah>what cpu, ram, video card
14:44<Clear>with AMD Athlon 64 X2
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14:45<Clear>And video card, I don't know, I bought this pc in 2007, new
14:45<nomopofomo>Hi, trying to figure out how to map my Playstation 3 control to keyboard presses :) anyone know of a package that might help?
14:46<slimjim>llutz i used gparted this time and for test purpose i set it to since i used gparted do i need to use mkfs again.
14:46<meshuggah>Clear, can you say me what your computer say when you try to boot in kde or gnome
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14:46<llutz>slimjim: i don't know gparted, sry
14:46<Clear>Hm, my monitor just says: Input not found
14:47<slimjim>ok...well it said it formated the drive into that system so it should be good. i am going to check it here in a min
14:47<slimjim>right now i am dealing with an issue with my laptop
14:47<meshuggah>Clear, and what is your input monitor and input videocard
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14:47<meshuggah>hey chealer
14:48<meshuggah>how are you chealer
14:48<Clear>Hm, Videocard is in my motherboard I believe, and Monitor is an Acer AL1916W
14:49<chealer>meshuggah: hi meshuggah. I'm fine, notwithstanding whatever makes me sick.
14:49<meshuggah>chealer, what is making you sick?
14:49*chealer should say hi more often
14:49<chealer>meshuggah: I don't know. maybe a cold
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14:50<meshuggah>chealer, i got one, it took like 2 months for me to be fine
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14:50<meshuggah>Clear, did u try google%
14:51<Clear>Hm, I'm now
14:51<neiljp>anyone an idea why thunderbird/icedove would stop downloading messages and insist that it couldn't compress folders because another action was going on?
14:52<meshuggah>Clear, i do not know how to help you, i am a newbie too, and usually it is really easy to install debian/ubuntu/gnu-linux of any kind
14:52<meshuggah>chealer, did u succeed in your exam?
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14:53<Clear>Ok, thanks anyways :)
14:53<gnewb>What is the way to resize a disk?
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14:53<schmichael>is the debian tracker down?
14:53<meshuggah>Clear, try to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
14:53<schmichael>bittorrent tracker that is
14:53<schmichael>or is transmission at fault?
14:54<meshuggah>transmission is default
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14:54<Clear>How do I open it?
14:54<meshuggah>Clear, pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
14:54<schmichael>meshuggah: is default? huh? i'm not able to download the debian lenny cd via the torrent
14:55<schmichael>transmission says its not getting a response from the tracker
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14:55<meshuggah>schmichael, maybe it is down
14:56<schmichael>meshuggah: heh, maybe its not. thats what i'm asking :)
14:56<schmichael>can someone else test it perhaps?
14:57<gnewb>Test what?
14:57<schmichael>indeterminate answers aren't very useful ;-)
14:57<meshuggah>schmichael, test which torrent
14:57<meshuggah>schmichael, gimme the link
14:57<schmichael>debian lenny i386 disk 1 torrent
14:57<schmichael>one sec
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14:58<gnewb>I went to that page and it said Finished
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14:59<meshuggah>schmichael, it is down
15:00<schmichael>thanks! :)
15:00<schmichael>anyone i should notify?
15:00<meshuggah>schmichael, maybe
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15:00<gnewb>I was using the Bittorent thing, it was up earlier.
15:01<meshuggah>i used transmission
15:01<meshuggah>and it always worked
15:01<meshuggah>until your bad link
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15:02<meshuggah>try the netinst
15:02<nomopofomo>Still looking for a way to map USB HID device buttons to keyboard keys.
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15:07<nomopofomo>Anybody? :(
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15:11<davius>how to configure hardware acceleration?
15:12<petern>of what?
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15:12<davius>i tried installing 3ddesktop
15:12<davius>and it said:
15:12<munga>how can I list all the installed packages on the system . Basically I want name and version for all packages with status "installed" and nothing else ...
15:13<davius>no direct rendering possible! Please configure hardware acceleration
15:13<llutz>munga: dpkg --get-selections
15:13<munga>(without using grep ...)
15:13<djc>dpkg -l
15:13<dpkg>djc: I give up, what is it?
15:13<munga>yes, dpkg -l | grep ^ii
15:13<munga>can I do the same only using dpkg ?
15:13<munga>or dpkg-query ?
15:13<llutz>munga: dpkg --get-selections
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15:13<djc>grep ^ii ?
15:14<djc>just dpkg -l
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15:14<djc>granted, you get the description too, but so what?
15:14<djc>if you really want to strip it off, do
15:15<davius>how to configure hardware acceleration for my video card?
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15:15<munga>dpkg --get-selections... almost there ... what's about the version number ?
15:15<djc>oh ok.. it shows removed ones too
15:15<dpkg>You are moron #1, munga
15:15<djc>on unix, you use multiple small tools to accomlish things
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15:15<djc>cut, sed, grep are the tools to manipulate the output of other things to be the way you want to use it
15:16<davius>thnx schmichael
15:16<djc>^some of the
15:16<schmichael>davius: no problem, feel free to ask if you run into any problems.
15:16<schmichael>davius: specific questions are much easier to answer than broad general ones
15:16<djc>man dpkg
15:16<djc>man grep
15:16<llutz>man awk
15:16<munga>djc yeah, I'm trying to minimize the requirements ... like dpkg-query has a nice syntax top define the output ...
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15:17<djc>where are you going to be running that would have dpkg but not grep,sed,,awk ?
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15:18<munga>something like : dpkg-query -W -f='${Package} ${Version}\n'
15:18<munga>yeah, I guess it should not be much of a problem after all ...
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15:22<llutz>munga " dpkg -l|awk '/^ii/{ print $2,$3 }' "
15:22<lucas_>oi com quem eu estou falando
15:23<nomopofomo>Does anyone know if it's possible to map a device such as the mouse to keyboard keys?
15:24<lucas_>pode dizer o seu nome
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15:26<nomopofomo>Can anyone see my text? Am I invisible or do people just not know the answer?
15:27<nomopofomo>Hopefully it's the latter...
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15:30<djc>nomopofomo, you are coming through just fine
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15:31<Gun_Smoke>which file controls which users are forwarded roots mail?
15:31<llutz> /etc/aliases
15:32<Gun_Smoke>llutz, thanks.. geeze.. I've been looking all morning..
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15:35<Gun_Smoke>so it seem a simple one for one switch in /etc/aliases would do it then running newaliases is that your experience?
15:35<keyser>good evening @ all
15:36<llutz>Gun_Smoke: should work, yes
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15:44<Sassi\offline>someone help me i keep gettting this cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory and iam pretty noob..
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15:45<patrikf>Sassi\offline: ... when executing what program?
15:45<Sassi\offline>its a addon for a cstrike server. SteamBans
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15:45<Sassi\offline>Couldn't open file '/home/nuked/hlds/cstrike/addons/sb/dlls/': cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
15:46<petern>good luck with your closed software :o
15:46<patrikf>Sassi\offline: well, you ought to install the libstdc++6 package (which is the C++ standard library and should basically be installed by default)
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15:47<Sassi\offline>libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
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15:47<patrikf>Sassi\offline: then maybe the binary is for a 32-bit system and you're on a 64-bit system or something similar.
15:47<djc>maybe it was compiled for an older version.. get the source and recompile it
15:48<djc>oh. wait.. you cant
15:48<joak_c>I have a problem with apt-get upgrade (lenny) and the new ucf system. Package upgardes of a lot of packages is not possible. Is there someone who can help? Many thanks in advance
15:48<djc>Sassi\offline, try 'ldd' on the binary.. it may give some clues as to what it is looking for
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15:49<zem>is there any point in instaling amd64 kernel instead of i386? speed increase or something like that?
15:49<djc>Sassi\offline, atually.. its looking for some file in its own directory
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15:49<djc>zem, are you on amd64 hardware?
15:49<zem>djc: athlon x2
15:50<zem>so, yes
15:50<djc>dunno then.. google
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15:50<djc>i guess I was under the impression that you *had* to use 64 bit kernel on 64 bit hw
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15:51<zem>nope, i386 works... just fine i guess...
15:51<djc>but, not having any 64 bit machines myself, my knowledge is limited
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15:51<djc>see what that says
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15:52<keyser>im running gentoo 32bit on my 64bit home comp ... tried the 64bit version too but didnt find any real differences except the additional space requiered
15:52<keyser>for the libraries
15:53<petern>appearance-wise you wouldn't see any difference
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15:53<keyser>i think as long you dont want to programm for 64bit systems there is still no point in running a 64bit kernel for home usage
15:53<petern>with amd64 you get some extra cpu registers which can help
15:54<keyser>but it uses additional memory
15:54<petern>it's also larger due to 64 bit pointers
15:54<petern>memory's cheap :)
15:54<keyser>youre point :)
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15:54<keyser>but not with wife and kids though
15:57<sebo>yardım edermisiniz diger sda lara baglanamıyorum izin verilmedi diye hata veriyor
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15:58<petern>are you sure?
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15:59<Cadmium02>How do you enable modules in apache?
16:00<Cadmium02>I want to enable mod rewrite in debian weay
16:00<Werther>Hi everybody
16:01<Werther>I could use some help with mounting iso and Dosbox
16:01<Werther>I can't use Dosbox because even when I use the "mount" command, it doesn't recognize my iso image as a cdrom
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16:01<Werther>any idea ?
16:01<keyser>first mount the iso as loopback
16:01<keyser>and then the folder in dosbox
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16:02<Werther>that's what i did
16:02<keyser>wont work?
16:02<Werther>mount iso -o loop
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16:02<Werther>it doesn't...
16:03<Werther>wait, i'll try again and give you the error message
16:03<keyser>you tried to mount the iso in dosbox ?
16:04<Werther>how do I do this ?
16:04<joak_c>Hi, I have an issue with libsensors4. I am not able to install the package. Everytime, I receive a bunch of messages regarding ucf. Any ideas?
16:04<keyser>@werther : i ment mounting the iso on your system rather then in dosbox
16:05<keyser>@werther : need to find a iso to check ;)
16:05<Werther>keyser, isn't it what i do when I use the mount command ?
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16:10<keyser>@ werther : there is a mount command implemented in dosbox , do you mean that?
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16:10<Werther>keyser: EXIT to error: MSCDEX : GetDirEntry: Not an ISO 9960CD
16:11<Werther>this is the error message I get
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16:11<PC52615>hi there ppl
16:11<MC50448>whats up
16:12<MC50448>who has a problem?
16:12<Werther>keyser, you mean I can mount the iso as a cdrom in dosbox without mounting it on linux and then mounting the directory in dosbox ?
16:13<keyser>@ werther : no ..
16:13<PC52615>ok thanx
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16:13<keyser>@ werther : no .. mount iso as cdrom in linux ... then mount the mountpoint in dosbox as drive d or so
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16:14<Werther>that's whay i did
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16:15<keyser>and it didnt work
16:15<sully>mine won't either
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16:16<sully>hey fart face some one help me lol
16:16<mo>hello anyone want to talk to me
16:16<keyser>@ werther : look here may be usefull
16:16<sully>do u need help with something?
16:16<slimjim>this may sound like a silly question and it may be over kill but i have the new ISO for debian and even tho it is cd size i can burn the ISO to dvd is that is all i have correct. and boot from that right
16:16<Werther>thanks, i'll read that
16:17<blarson>slimjim: yes
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16:18<mo> helllo people whats up
16:18<slimjim>thanks blarson it was kinda redundint but i ran out of CD-R and still ahve a stack of DVD-r like 50 of them. =) did not see the point in spending $$ if they will do the same
16:18<Werther>whats going on mo, felling lonely ?
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16:19<sully>ah how sad
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16:20<cesurasean1>got any clue why debian is only showing up with resolution 640x480?
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16:24<mo>werther whats up?
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16:25<sully>i got a problem with this disk
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16:26<mo>hi kamekaze whats up?
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16:27<sully>wat it do home skillet buiscut lol
16:27<cahoot>this turned into #debian-aol?
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16:31<mo>cahoot : yes it did lol
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16:32<sully>u kno lol how wierd
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16:34<mypavel>hello all. Please help =) I know that there isn't UIRCC driver for Irda. Is it right that i couldn't find any ways to use Irc-port on linux?
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16:35<Werther>keyser, i get "The image must be on a host or local drive" when i try imgmount
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16:38<keyser>@ werther : im a bit to lazy to read right now :P look if you can find something that could help here :
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16:39<NightMonkey>mo: No unsolicited pms, plz.
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16:39<Werther>@keyser : ty, i'll what i can find
16:40<sully>wtf is that????????
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16:40<sully>u guys are sophisticated
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16:41<sully>yea quit leaving dub asses
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16:42<sully>good 4 him want a cookie
16:42<mo>i want a cookie lol
16:42<sully>al wants ur cookies jp lol
16:42<patrikf>don't feed the trolls... or let them feed you, whatever.
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16:42<mo>eww gross u sicko
16:43<sully>haha jp
16:43<sully>hw come urs is purple an mynes black huh
16:43<NightMonkey>!seen Ganneff
16:43<dpkg>ganneff is currently on #debian #debian-women, last said: 'antonio: either try in english or follow what dpkg said please. thanks.'.
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16:44<patrikf>mo: please don't PM me, I don't even know you.
16:44<mo>lol fine
16:44<sully>heck wit u lol
16:44<OdyX>!no lol
16:45<dpkg>If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user.
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16:45<sully>LOL all i want dats my thang got a problem use ifix it
16:45<Werther>what's the problem with AOL ?
16:46<dpkg>somebody said aol was America OnLine, a large ISP, beloved of people who don't know much about the Internet.
16:46<sully>o i dont kno wat ur sayin but ok
16:46<Werther>it didn't last long here in France, it was bought by another ISP
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16:46<OdyX>mo: please don't PM me, I don't even know you.
16:47<patrikf>my words! :D
16:47<sully>r thats to bad get to kno her LOL
16:47<OdyX>patrikf: same problem, same solution.
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16:48*patrikf waits for someone to finally get annoyed enough to berate sully and mo or call the ops
16:48<sully>EH F U DUM ASS MO FO
16:49<mo>ulrich: hi
16:49<stew>sully: please keep your comments constructive and on-topic, or go elsewhere
16:49<ulrich>how does one typically change the time with lxde?
16:50<sully>ur face
16:50<stew>sully: do you have anything debian related?
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16:50<sully>nah idk wat that is srry explain please
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16:50<patrikf>ulrich: you can do so from the command-line with "date"
16:51<ulrich>patrikf, thank you. i'll try man date then
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16:51<patrikf>finally someone that doesn't need to be told to read the man page :D
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16:52<patrikf>ulrich: if the time zone for your system is wrong, you can change it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata".
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16:52<ulrich>yes, i am not added to the sudoers list however and i haven't had the courage to go and look that up *yet*. but if that will make it easier i might want to know where the sudoers file is?
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16:53<ulrich>because the time was correct on ubuntu and windows until i installed debian
16:53<patrikf>ulrich: it has a man page too :)
16:53<ulrich>of course
16:53<ml>ulrich: /etc/
16:54<Werther>keyser, I finally got it to work ;)
16:54*ulrich climbs back into his hole until further notice :P
16:54<keyser>@ werther : what was the solution
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16:55<slimjim>hey how well will the latest distro of deb work on a AMD 1800+ with 256ram it does not share ram with video sep agp for that and the ram will be upgraded soon
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16:56<patrikf>slimjim: that mainly depends on what applications and desktop environment you are going to use
16:56<ulrich>slimjim, I bet it will run pretty darn smooth
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16:56<patrikf>slimjim: or, if that's what you want to hear, as well as any other linux distribution, it's not like with windows
16:56<ulrich>you might want to try xfce or lxde
16:56<slimjim>i had been using ubuntu and dreamlinux since i got back into it and started getting my feet wet
16:57<slimjim>no i know it is nothing like windows. at all by no means
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16:57<Werther>keyser: i'm ashamed... "imgmount -t iso" with the GOOD path did the trick ^^
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16:57<keyser>@ werther : happens :)
16:58<slimjim>i used to use linux way back in the day started off with RH and walked away for a while then back into it with ubuntu then found dream messed with gentoo and arch and a few other costum distros now i am looking for a well rounded distro with good support
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16:58<patrikf>well, it sounded like a windows-y question, as windows is becoming more and more of a resource hog with each release. that doesn't happen on linux (except specific apps, maybe)
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16:58<Werther>my path was too long, and dosbox uses a kwerty keyboard layout although mine is an azerty...
16:58<Werther>that's why
16:58<patrikf>debian releases don't mean anything for performance really
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17:00<keyser>werther: you want to run some old dos games ?
17:00<Werther>keyser: yep
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17:01<Werther>keyser: abandonwares
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17:01<keyser>werther: there are sure some treasures
17:02<Werther>keyser: I'm fond of them, I'm only 20, so I can discover plenty of great old treseaures ;)
17:02<Werther>keyser: you've got some favorites ?
17:03<keyser>werther: apps or games
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17:03<Werther>keyser: games
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17:03<keyser>werther: thought so :)
17:03<keyser>werther: syndicate
17:03<keyser>werther: syndicate wars
17:03<keyser>werther: syndicate wars
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17:04<prahal>someone got jamendo radio working (flash player) ? I am able to record to albums only radios fails
17:04<keyser>werther: but i dont know if its free
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17:04<keyser>werther: almost forgot jagged alliance
17:05<Werther>yes it's free
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17:05<keyser>werther: dont forget to try out x-com
17:06<keyser>werther: and ufo
17:06<Werther>i'll note all of them
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17:06<keyser>werther: x-com terror from the deep is one of the creepiest squad based strategy titles ever
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17:06<Werther>keyser: in syndicate wars the world is controled by Eurocorp
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17:07<Werther>keyser: it's a British game, so I think it's a kind of Euro-sceptic joke ;)
17:07<meshuggah_>syndicate was great
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17:08<keyser>one of the best games in the cyberpunk setting
17:08<Werther>i discovered time commando lately
17:09<keyser>could be out of a gibson novel
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17:09<Werther>it's quite fun
17:09<Werther>you have to fight your way through different historical periods
17:10<meshuggah_>i played the demo a few years ago
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17:10<Werther>it's by the same French studio that did the greaaaat lba and lba2
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17:10<Werther>first game i ever played
17:10<meshuggah_>lol, lba was great too
17:10<meshuggah_>but it is not that old
17:11<Werther>but i'm not that old either ;)
17:11<Werther>in 1995 I was six...
17:13<lvdz>so oldskool
17:13<keyser>little big adventure
17:13<lvdz>youre talking about the old one ?
17:13<lvdz>or am i confusing it with another game ...
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17:14<Werther>we're talking about both
17:14<Werther>it's funny, I discovered lately that the French have a huge share of the video game business
17:14<Werther>I think a lot of people ignore that
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17:14<lvdz>arent you french ?
17:14<Werther>I'm, my IP isn't lying
17:14<lvdz>they were quite active during this era
17:15<lvdz>i havent check hehe
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17:15<Werther>but I didn't know World of Warcraft was French !
17:15<lvdz>je suis francais aussi c'st pour ca :)
17:15<lvdz>heuuu is it really lol
17:15<Werther>ah d'accord
17:15<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on
17:15<meshuggah>french sucks
17:15<keyser>first game i ever played was pitfall on my brand new c64
17:15<Werther>well blizzard is an american studio
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17:16<lvdz>yeah we know chahibi sry
17:16<chahibi>lvdz, c'est juste pour vous taquiner :p
17:16<chahibi>lvdz, je déteste ce dpkg
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17:16<Werther>but it's the property of Vivendi
17:16<meshuggah>dpkg is great
17:16<dpkg>meshuggah: wish i knew
17:16<lvdz>ah yeah well
17:16<meshuggah>fuc koff dpkg
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17:16<lvdz>if we think that way the eiffel tower might be chinese
17:16<Werther>just like Activision
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17:17<chahibi>meshuggah, I am against bot abuse
17:17<meshuggah>i am for bot abuse
17:17<Werther>but Ubisoft is 100% French, development and production
17:17<lvdz>even though they moved to montreal
17:17<meshuggah>french control the earth computer games
17:17<lvdz>which is a great city btw
17:17<meshuggah>montréal sucks
17:17<lvdz>you ever been there ?
17:18<Werther>they didn't move there, they just have built another studio
17:18<meshuggah>maybe 2 hr
17:18<lvdz>ah ok thought they moved
17:18<meshuggah>i live in the north
17:18<Werther>i wish i did
17:18<lvdz>north us ? or canada
17:18<meshuggah>northern québec
17:18<Werther>but i haven't left Europe yet
17:18<lvdz>montreal rocks
17:18<meshuggah>10hr north of montréal
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17:18<lvdz>why dont you like it ?
17:18<meshuggah>too big
17:19<meshuggah>bigger than 10,000 people is too big
17:19<lvdz>-even though this question isnt so debian oriented -
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17:19<meshuggah>i love off-topic
17:19<lvdz>people are sooo laid back thus
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17:19<lvdz>and its very pleasant during summer
17:19<Werther>meshuggah, you're quebecois or an english-speaking canadian ?
17:19<meshuggah>Werther, i am québécois, and french canadian
17:20<lvdz>do you still have 50 meters of snow now ??
17:20<meshuggah>only 1
17:20<meshuggah>it is not that bad
17:20<lvdz>thats enough
17:20<meshuggah>when i was younger it was worst
17:20<Werther>weshuggag, so I guess you were joking when you said French sucks ;-)
17:20<meshuggah>Werther, yes i was
17:20<lvdz>they kind of suck anyway hehe
17:20<lvdz>well 'we'
17:20<meshuggah>we are all sheeps
17:21<meshuggah>we should declare war and kill people
17:21<lvdz>its never a good idea
17:21<Werther>let's start a war to free Quebec
17:21<Werther>I'll be part of it, I swear
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17:21<lvdz>heheh don't be so quick to swear hmmm
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17:22<Werther>why is that ? I'm 20, it's just the age to die for a great cause :p
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17:22<lvdz>well, from that angle ...
17:23<Werther>sorry, it's just my DeGaullish side waking up
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17:25<lvdz>how can a 20 years old dude have a DeGaulle side ?
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17:25<Werther>i know, that's funny
17:25<Werther>i'm fell a bit isolated sometime
17:25<lvdz>don't know if 'funny' is so acurate
17:26<Werther>i feel*
17:26<lvdz>even though im not an anti degaulle
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17:26<lvdz>dont misunderstand me
17:26<Werther>but you can never be too young to love a hero, i guess
17:26<lvdz>the era was way different
17:26<Werther>yes it was
17:27<Werther>but i regret him lately...
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17:27<lvdz>i have never considered him through the hero angle hmmm
17:27<lvdz>like he was a great leader
17:27<lvdz>he founded our republic as we know it
17:27<lvdz>i dont know if youre refering to wwII
17:27<chahibi>I love Québec
17:27<lvdz>me too
17:28<chahibi>and Canadian humour
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17:28<Werther>ww2 and after
17:28<Werther>yeah, long live free Quebec !
17:28<chahibi>there are so great sitcoms broadcast on TV5 sometimes
17:28<lvdz>the heros during ww2 were those dudes who fought in normandie etc
17:28<prahal>area or not he was not a "sheep" (in the meaning he had a different vision than most) as he told about the ardennes being a weakness way before it became obvious
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17:28<lvdz>he was smart indeed
17:29<meshuggah_>damn internet
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17:29<cdlu>Werther de Gaulle
17:29<Werther>its position about foreign policy was very brave too
17:29<meshuggah_>Werther, who?
17:29<lvdz>yeah no doubt he was totally leet
17:29<Werther>meshuggah: DeGaulle
17:29<lvdz>but a hero's a different breed
17:30<meshuggah_>Vive le Québec,Vive le Québec Libre! was great
17:30<Werther>yeah, i know the whole speech by heart !
17:30<lvdz>you must be a real hardcore fan then
17:30<Werther>it was for a theatre club, though
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17:30<meshuggah_>but, sarcozy is a stupid one
17:31<Werther>i used to be a great imitator ;)
17:31<lvdz>stupid i dont know
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17:31<cdlu>lvdz, do you guys have a government yet? :)
17:31<lvdz>weird for sure
17:31<lvdz>in belgium ?
17:31<Werther>i totally agree
17:31<lvdz>cdlu :well kind of
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17:31<Werther>i'm so ashamed of this guy
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17:31<lvdz>he's not that bad
17:31-!-grochap_ [~grochap@] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
17:31<lvdz>but he's not that great
17:31<cdlu>Werther, de Gaulle is probably one of three people in the history of the world to be told to leave Canada. :)
17:31<cdlu>not my favourite person
17:32<Werther>He's destroying the German-French friendship, its predessors have been building for so long
17:32<lvdz>destroying ;
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17:32<meshuggah_>sarcozy is destroying québec-france friendship
17:33<chahibi>lvdz, it hurts
17:33<lvdz>chahibi : :)
17:33<cdlu>meshuggah_, I now support Sarcozy!
17:33<meshuggah_>cdlu, prepare tod ie
17:33<cdlu>we should move this to #canada or #politics or something. I think it's off #debian topic :)
17:33<lvdz>but anyway its too late to debate about that
17:33<Werther>well, he is being very insultant towards Germany
17:33<lvdz>was nice to have this cultural interlude thoe :)
17:34<lvdz>yeah, he doesnt know how to behave
17:34<Werther>sure was
17:34<lvdz>later guys
17:34<Werther>see you
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17:35<Werther>meshuggag: seems you don't have DSL in Canada yet ;)
17:35<cdlu>we have it in canada, just not quebec. ;)
17:35<keyser>im off too
17:35<keyser>bb and gn all
17:36<Werther>see you keyser, and thanks for your help
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17:36<keyser>werther: youre welcome
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17:36<meshuggah>Werther, i am connectedon 2 dsl
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17:37<Werther>cdlu: you retarded French speaking prehistoric caveman
17:37<meshuggah>it is just this fucking landlord that cant configure it
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17:38<cdlu>Werther, t'en saurais rien... :)
17:38<Hydroxide>hi cdlu ... please, yes, you and Werther should discuss this elsewhere :)
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17:38<cdlu>chahibli came to #canada, the rest of the francophiles haven't :)
17:38<meshuggah>Hydroxide, this is a nice place
17:39<Hydroxide>meshuggah: I like it too.
17:39<meshuggah>we should invade #debian
17:39<Werther>cdlu: only joking, i heard english speaking canadians are jokingly speaking of quebecois as retarded people
17:39<cdlu>Werther, I am a liberated Quebecker -- I moved to Ontario.
17:40<meshuggah>cdlu, traitor?
17:40<cdlu>meshuggah, come call me that in #canada, we're dragging #debian way off topic :)
17:40<meshuggah>cdlu, we are only dragging it a LITTLE
17:40<cdlu>meshuggah, I'd have to have to ban myself
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17:47<arw>i have a problem
17:47<arw>some try to damage my debian installing a windows
17:47<arw>for any reason does not finish it.
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17:48<arw>so i have tried to recovery my system but not lucky
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17:49<arw>i had used a debian live cd to try to recover my system
17:50<Geek`N`Proud>arw: does debian no longer boot for you?
17:50<Geek`N`Proud>okay try booting the debian CD and loading rescue mode but then you want to execute a shell inside your installed system
17:51<Geek`N`Proud>then when you're in there do something like grub-install /dev/sda
17:51<arw>i had used mount and mount --bind and chroot and grub> root (hd0,0)
17:51<Geek`N`Proud>or grub-install /dev/hda
17:52<Geek`N`Proud>try using the grub-install script
17:52<arw>i have used with the following result
17:52<Geek`N`Proud>if it still fails then run the debian installer in expert mode
17:52<arw>Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
17:52<arw>The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
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17:53<Geek`N`Proud>try reinstalling ggrub
17:53<dpkg>i heard reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone>
17:53<Geek`N`Proud>then try it again
17:53<arw>Geek`N`Proud this is my fdisk -l result
17:53<arw>/dev/sda1 1 9728 78140128+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
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17:54<Geek`N`Proud>is that all? just one partition?
17:54<arw>before i had two
17:54<arw>but now is only one
17:54<Geek`N`Proud>I think you've nuked the Debian install somehow
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17:55<adama>windows ate it
17:55<arw>i only try to recover the boot,
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17:55<arw>but inside still linux
17:55<Geek`N`Proud>arw: reinstalling might be easier
17:55<arw>debian system
17:55<arw>lost the data?
17:56<Geek`N`Proud>well can you use rescue mode to get inside the old debian install?
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17:56<rickbot>that grup error will happen if grup can't find a linux kernel
17:56<rickbot>usually means corruption
17:56<arw>at this moment i can see the linux system
17:57<Geek`N`Proud>arw: then back up the data with tar
17:57<Geek`N`Proud>then reinstall
17:57<Geek`N`Proud>that's the easiest way
17:57<arw>so.. there is no more chances..
17:58<arw>ok, i am going to that
17:58<arw>thank you
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17:58<rickbot>if the partition is still readable, you can use a live disk to move the data somewhere else then re-format
17:59<arw>yes, the partition is still readeable...
17:59<arw>at this moment i am on a live debian cd
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17:59<arw>and the system is mounted
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17:59<arw>the old.
18:00<rickbot>thats good
18:00<arw>yes, i can see all the files
18:00<rickbot>whenever i've seen this error, the file system was corrupted so i'd move your stuff out of there right away
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18:01<arw>i am going to do that
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18:02<arw>thank you rickbot and Geek`N`Proud
18:02<rickbot>good luck
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18:08<OdyX>Maulkin: you want it pasted somewhere ?
18:08<asl2>como busco usuarios
18:08<asl2>en el sistema
18:08<Maulkin>OdyX: please
18:08<OdyX>!es | asl2
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18:09<asl2>!es con eso
18:10<asl2>no sirve
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18:10<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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18:14<dpkg>i heard pong is the best name on IRC eg. /ping pong, or *the* classic video game
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18:19<OdyX>mein placer
18:20<rcom97>anyone here good with iptables ?
18:20<rcom97>I'm a bit rusty
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18:20<rcom97>97 rusty :)
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18:24<eteos>when i installed debian yesterday i had inet connection
18:24<eteos>now that im on it i do ifconfig it doesnt show eth0
18:24<eteos>i do ifconfig eth0 up
18:24<eteos>it says no device found
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18:26<eteos>if i do ifup eth0 it says ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
18:26<eteos>am i missing something?
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18:27<rodrigues>boa moite!
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18:29<eteos>/etc/network/interface sdoesnt show eth0
18:29<dpkg>forcedeth is, like, the open-source nvidia ethernet driver, for nforce motherboards. Found in 2.4.23 kernels or higher, or ask me about <forcedeth mac>
18:29<djc>what nic does your machine have?
18:30<eteos>broadcom netxtreme 57xx gb controller
18:30<eteos>but i installed it from the inet
18:30<djc>Ah.. did you load its firmware?
18:30<djc>to install?
18:30<eteos>now that im actually using its not showing
18:30<eteos>i used the netinstall
18:31<djc>you'll need to install that same firmware on the running system for it to work
18:31<eteos>how would i do that
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18:31<djc>google for 'debian broadcom netxtreme 57xx'
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18:31<djc>see what you can find
18:31<rodrigues>the book?
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18:32<djc>rodrigues, ?
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18:32<djc>rodrigues, what?
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18:32<willly>Hi there! My problem is really quite simple: "Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-disk (8,1)." It happens to be a SCSI disk in an AMD64 laptop machine. and has been giving me this error ever since I tried to recompile the kernel and installed it using LILO. Unfortunately, it has also been giving me this error using the prepackaged kernel that the installer originally supplied.
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18:33<rodrigues>vc fala portugues?
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18:33<eteos>why wouldnt it install it when i installed debian?
18:33<djc>willly, sounds like an initrd problem.. perhaps try boot from the cd and try rescue mode
18:33<dpkg>The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your country code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de
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18:33<rodrigues>you speak Portuguese?
18:33<djc>I do not
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18:34<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
18:34<djc>eteos, not sure.. try google
18:34<rodrigues>ok, I'm new and I lost half for serving the chat?
18:34<slimjim>QPrime how is it going
18:34<eteos>ok ty
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18:35<slimjim>QPrime i was not able to figure out that getmail and getlive you told me about maybe you might ahve time later to walk me thur it or show me some good howto
18:36<QPrime>slimjim: things are fine on this end. I'll see what I can find for you re the mail stuff.
18:36<adama>rodrigues: /j debian-pt
18:36<djc>debian newb *and* an irc newb... sheesh
18:36<slimjim>QPrime thanks. and am i doing the say command right
18:36<willly>djc: I've tried that so many times I've lost count. I've had to do that to recompile my kernel with various combinations of the SCSI low-level drivers, all to no good purpose.
18:37<djc>willly, if you boot rescue mode can you mount the system?
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18:38<willly>djc: dunno. How do I try that?
18:38<djc>willly, is this a new install? or a machine with existing data/users?
18:38<djc>boot the cd, choose rescue mode, follow the prompts
18:38<willly>djc: it's a brand new machine and install.
18:38<rodrigues>class spoke up soon!
18:38<djc>it might be simpler just to reinstall from scratch then
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18:38<djc>rodrigues, what are you talking about, who are you talking to?
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18:40<djc>and leave off doing anything with the kernel
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18:40<willly>djc: It would indeed be easier. The problem I have with it is that I don't want or need to keep going with the prepackaged kernel.
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18:41<djc>in any case, at this point, just to get back to a running system, it might be simpler to reinstall first, then go from there
18:41<djc>figure out what you did wrong
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18:42<djc>if you werent following a *debian* guide to compiling a custom kernel, then use google to find one and do so
18:43<djc>use the debian kernel source packages, etc
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18:45<willly>djc: that's a lovely idea. However, the number of steps in paring the kernel down to size is large enough that I would rather not have to start over from scratch. As to the package sources, I have been using Debian all the way for a long time now.
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18:45<djc>I see.. well, if you aren't able to get a booting system, then you are at a dead end.
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18:46<djc>not quite sure why you need to 'pare down' the kernel.. almost everything os modules and not loaded unless needed
18:47<willly>djc: I certainly agree there! Truth to tell, though, there is no guarantee that I would not repeat my error on a repeated installation. I have no initrd at all now, except the one that accompanies the prepackaged kernel.
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18:48<djc>Well I must be off.. good luck
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18:48<willly>djc: thanks very much!!
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19:07<dpkg>< DrBlink> wow i didnt kno linux had an interface
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19:17<bobrox>somebody know how to make a custom kernel 2.6.26 and xen3.2 ?
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20:16<white_gecko>i have just installed squeeze and want to user my bluetooth mouse and keyboard
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20:16<encore><<white_geck> Hello!
20:16<white_gecko>can anyone tell me, where i find information about this?
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20:18<encore>someone speak portuguese? i'm from brasil...and I really need help
20:18<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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20:19<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or DE == Desktop Environment
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20:20<adama>white_gecko: apt-cache search bluetooth
20:21<adama>or google
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20:30<taz>hi.... anyone know how to fix with my webcam logitech??
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20:34<slimjim>is there a live cd for debian or just direct install
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20:35<zumbi_>slimjim: debian-live ?
20:35<slimjim>i looked and did not see it on there web page
20:36<dpkg>hmm... livecd is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends.Debian may one day have its own LiveCD: or or #debian-live on, or
20:37<slimjim>thanks abrotman. so waht you are saying is that is a no
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20:37<abrotman>oh .. whoops .. check the uh .. first URL, and second
20:38<zem>someone should bring news to dpkg ^^
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20:50<abrotman>who fixed it .. but fixed it badly ?
20:50<abrotman>gsimmons: that wasn't helpful!
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20:52<gsimmons>abrotman: Hmmm? The Debian Live-specific information was already in another factoid (debian live), so it was linked to that. "live" also calls up "debian live", etc. Feel free to rewrite!
20:52<abrotman>gsimmons: i'm going to try to add the url for debian-live into it
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20:53<GTFOURDREAMS>anybody around wanna help me install some HP "value add" software on my new Proliant DL380 G3?
20:54<GTFOURDREAMS>... is anybody even alive?
20:54<abrotman>on Debian ?
20:54<GTFOURDREAMS>yea debian
20:54<GTFOURDREAMS>i think i have to get the kernal source files, and let hp-OpenIPMI rebuild it with the new driver...
20:55<Seneca>I've got a system requirement question. I have an older PC that I desire to install Debian on, but am wondering if it can even handle it.
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20:55<abrotman>Seneca: specs ?
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20:55<GTFOURDREAMS>seneca: it really depends what you wanna run..
20:55<GTFOURDREAMS>base with shell should run on just about anything :)
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20:55<Seneca>Pentium 2, 333 MHz, 96 megs RAM, 4 gig hard drive, ATI Rage Pro.
20:56<abrotman>yes, it can
20:56<GTFOURDREAMS>seneca: gui might be slow
20:56<Seneca>And ideally, but probably stretching, a 386 with 2 megs RAM and 40 megs hard drive. (But if not, I'll just dumb terminal it off another PC)
20:57<GTFOURDREAMS>386 should run too, (Base + SSHD)
20:57<GTFOURDREAMS>abrotman: you got any tips?
20:57<Seneca>... haha! Epic. Full free software, here I come! :D
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20:58<Seneca>Okay, new question. Is there a terminal emulator available for Debian?
20:58<GTFOURDREAMS>or.. can someone tell me how to get the current src files for the kernal (lenny) so I can run dpkg -i hp-OpenIPMI... and have it rebuild the kernel
20:59<penpen>Seneca: lots... xterm, gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal, aterm, rxvt
20:59<Seneca>One that will work over a serial line to another PC?
20:59<penpen>that's not really an emulator, then :p
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20:59<penpen>you're wanting to set up a remote serial not sure how to do that between two pcs though
20:59<Seneca>Well, my PC is not a VT100, so technically if I'm making it act like one, it is an emulator. :P
21:00<penpen>not sure :p
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21:01<Seneca>Well, I have a host system, my terminal box (the 386 from before) is running a boat load of proprietary nagware, and I was hoping to convert all my PCs, even the relic from 1991, over to free software.
21:01<GTFOURDREAMS>yum. free software
21:02<GTFOURDREAMS>ok.. if i have lenny, and my kernel (uname -r) is 2.6.26-1-686
21:02<GTFOURDREAMS>if i need to get the src files to rebuild it.. would i use these commands:
21:02<GTFOURDREAMS>apt-get install fakeroot build-essential devscripts
21:02<GTFOURDREAMS>apt-get build-dep linux-2.6
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21:03<GTFOURDREAMS>geeze. i type too fast
21:03<Seneca>Nice job, GTF.
21:03<snogglethorpe>yay! boinc is usable in 2.6.29 again...
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21:04<snogglethorpe>(man they got 2.6.29 packaged fast...)
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21:06<GTFOURDREAMS>i think everyone died
21:07<Seneca>I'm getting myself in quite the boat here, it seems. A modern PC, a 333, and a 386. The modern machine is currently the host to the 386 (which I'm using now). The 386 has dual floppy drives, however can only boot off the 5 1/4 drive (1.2 meg). Is there a way to configure this system tow ork and reach the Debian repositories over the serial link between the two boxes?
21:08<snogglethorpe>also, 2.6.29 actually fits on my root partition (unlike 2.6.28...)
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21:11<Seneca>14.4k is slow. I'm watching the text paint on my screen. But it's not as bad as the time I did it over 2400 on a live Knoppix CD and a 8086 laptop.
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21:11<GTFOURDREAMS>haven't heard that in awhile
21:11<snogglethorpe>Seneca: but either is a dream compared to 300 (not to mention 110!)
21:12<snogglethorpe>(asr33 did 110)
21:12<Seneca>... I can imagine. I've tested equipment that goes that slow.
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21:12<snogglethorpe>i used to get a kick out of the vt100 baud setting -- the minimum was 2 baud (dunno whether it actaully worked, but you could set it...)
21:13<Seneca>It takes about ten seconds to transfer the "quick brown fox" test message that you always see in serial communication. .... WTF?! 2 BAUD?!
21:13<GTFOURDREAMS>even styrofoam cups with strings go faster than 110 these days :)
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21:13<acu>abrotman: are you around ?
21:14*abrotman is being hunted
21:14<acu>can I talk to you in private for one min ?
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21:14<GTFOURDREAMS>what does this mean?
21:14<abrotman>you may
21:14<GTFOURDREAMS>This kernel requires a rebuild. Seeking source files \ Basic source files appear to be installed. Investigating further. \ The file: /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build/.config \ does NOT exist. There must be a Linux kernel \ '.config' file with IPMI enabled to build this package.
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21:15<Seneca>GTF: That looks bad.
21:15*abrotman thinks acu fell asleep
21:15<GTFOURDREAMS>dont say that
21:15<Seneca>Sorry, but I have little experience in this.
21:15<abrotman>oh .. there he is!
21:15<Seneca>New question. Can I dual boot a 386?
21:16<GTFOURDREAMS>dual boot with what? :)
21:16<Seneca>DOS5.0 and Debian. On a 40 meg hard drive, willing to split it approximately in half.
21:16<abrotman>Seneca: you shold be able to
21:16<abrotman>you won't get debian on a 40MB HDD
21:16<penpen>yeah, even the tightest base install is about 80+mb
21:16<Seneca>Better look for an IDE hard drive that ISN'T CRASHING.... *eyes the relic he took out from before*
21:17<penpen>there's no way a 386 supports 48bit lba ;p
21:17<penpen>but if you can find like a gig or a couple gig drive..
21:17<penpen>maybe a cf card
21:17<Seneca>Alright. I can obtain very large hard drives. But I can NOT boot from them, this system's just too old to boot from an IDE. My boot drive is either a 5 1/4 or the 40 megger.
21:18<GTFOURDREAMS>cf card. hehe
21:18<penpen>what kind of drives are they?
21:18<GTFOURDREAMS>seneca: why dont you get a CF card, copy the installation files to a partition, boot off it with ATA adapter, and install it on itself (or another one)?
21:19<Seneca>... what's a CF card?
21:19<Seneca>Er, wait, nvm.
21:19<GTFOURDREAMS>those fancy thigns they put in those fancy digital cameras
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21:19<Seneca>I can install an IDE hard drive in this box. But damnit, it's from 1991! Where do I PLUG IN the CF card?
21:20<GTFOURDREAMS>IDE -> CF adapter
21:20<penpen>compact flash uses the same pins as ide, so the adapters are usually pretty cheap
21:21<Seneca>M'kay. I DO have the 333 computer from before, that has a LAN card and IDE hard drives. I can load the hard drive using that machine.
21:21<GTFOURDREAMS>penpen: does it really? so if i wanted to use a ATA hdd on my camera, i could. (if i get a power supply enough for it)
21:22<penpen>GTFOURDREAMS: i don't know about that, but from what i've read that's the reason CF cards are so easily compatible with the ata interface
21:23<GTFOURDREAMS>interesting. didnt know that
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21:23<Seneca>Huh. Heck, I could probably build something to do that.
21:24<penpen>"CompactFlash defines a physical interface which is smaller than, but electrically identical to, the ATA interface."
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21:25<penpen>i imagine youd still have issues with disks > 7gb or so
21:25<penpen>at least with msdos
21:25<GTFOURDREAMS>how do i make a linux kernel .config file?
21:25<penpen>should come with the source of the kernel
21:26<Seneca>DOS isn't going to be using this hard drive, or even seeing it. I can probably just load my intended drive with a newer PC - like my P2 - then move it to the 386. But then we have a new problem.... how do I get this museum worthy relic to boot off of an interface it doesn't wanna boot off of?
21:26<penpen>try installing linux-source-2.6.26
21:26<penpen>Seneca: sounds like a bios setting issue, maybe
21:27<Seneca>I have two hard drive risers. The riser for the 40 meg HD has no interrupt jumpers that I can find. I can change the interrupts for the IDE riser - I had to to avoid conflict between the two.
21:28<Seneca>Although my newest PC could hand off bootup to a secondary hard drive - can't I do something similar to GRUB on the 386 with a multiboot setup?
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21:30<Seneca>Ah yes. I have a CD drive, but cannot currently boot from it. I have MSCDEX installed, so I can use it.
21:31<abrotman>GTFOURDREAMS: how do you make? you do the config and save it
21:32<Seneca>well y'all, thanks for the help 'n all. Think i'm going to go ahead and head out. I can alway swork on this later when I'm more awake.
21:32<GTFOURDREAMS>abrotman: i guess i donno how to make
21:32<GTFOURDREAMS>the kernel
21:33<abrotman>why are you compiling a kernel?
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21:34<GTFOURDREAMS>i have a DL380 G3, and to use the HP "value add" software (which controls the system fans to scsi array) i have to install hp-OpenIPMI
21:34<GTFOURDREAMS>dpkg -i hp-OpenIPMI...deb tries to remake kernel
21:34*dpkg removes a kidney from gtfourdreams and replaces it with hp-OpenIPMI...deb tries to remake kernel
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21:35<GTFOURDREAMS>This kernel requires a rebuild. Seeking source files \ Basic source files appear to be installed. Investigating further. \ The file: /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build/.config \ does NOT exist. There must be a Linux kernel \ '.config' file with IPMI enabled to build this package.
21:35<GTFOURDREAMS>i get that error
21:36<GTFOURDREAMS>i gotta this thing to work.. because (a) i need to control the scsi array sometime (b) my girlfriend hates the fact that the fans are on FULL speed next to her computer :)
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21:38<GTFOURDREAMS>abrotman? any help/advice?
21:38<Seneca>Cya everyone
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21:39<abrotman>why does it require a rebuild ?
21:39<GTFOURDREAMS>because HP sucks
21:39<GTFOURDREAMS>but seriously.. i dont know
21:40<GTFOURDREAMS>if i cant figure it out, im plucking fans out of the server. damn thing is too loud
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21:46<daniel>can someone help me make my sound work?
21:46<GTFOURDREAMS>what computer specs?
21:47<daniel>its dell inspiron 3800
21:47<dpkg>All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at and Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <netbook>, <laptop mode> <suspend troubleshooting>.
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21:48<daniel>where do I get to that information
21:49<GTFOURDREAMS>go to and get your specs
21:49<daniel>ok thank you
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21:53<daniel>Audio type DirectX/PCI Sound Blaster emulation
21:53<daniel>Audio controller ESS Maestro 3I
21:53<daniel>Stereo conversion 16 bit (analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog)
21:53<daniel> Internal
21:53<daniel> PCI bus/AC97
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22:02<poncho>someone hava a checkers game in c
22:02<poncho>someone have a checkers game in c
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22:03<b1ll>wouldn't you rather play a nice game of chess?
22:03<poncho>it 4 school, man
22:04<poncho>do you hava one?
22:04<poncho>do you have one?
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22:07<abrotman>he wants us to do his homework for him ?
22:09<daniel_>I am trying to set up the sound for my dell inspiron 3800 with the following hardware. Audio type DirectX/PCI Sound Blaster emulation
22:09<daniel_>Audio controller ESS Maestro 3I
22:09<daniel_>Stereo conversion 16 bit (analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog)
22:09<daniel_> Internal
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22:10<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
22:10<gsimmons>daniel__: What version of Debian are you using?
22:10<dpkg>The snd-maestro3 ALSA driver now requires firmware for its operation. Refer to the procedure at
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22:10<amphi>daniel__: look for your laptop model on, and you should find useful info
22:11<daniel__>Thank you very much
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22:11<daniel__>I just installed this os today and I had no idea where to begin
22:12<amphi>laptops can be a PITA
22:13<daniel__>you are talking to a beginner and I am afraid that I don't know what PTTA is.
22:14<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, pita is pain in the ass or whats usually for supper :)
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22:14<daniel__>people eating tasty animals
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22:16<daniel__>I am going to work on this now. I appreciate the help. Thank you!
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22:21<chuck>if a package isn't in backports, how do I compile a package from testing?
22:22<chuck>i know there's a factoid for it, i can't remember the name of it
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22:24<vinicius>hi! im getting the following error while trying to compile iscan: error: 'getenv' was not declared in this scope... tried to google it, but nothing till now... anyone?
22:25<chuck>abrotman: do you know the name of the factoid? i think you were the one that told me about it in the first place
22:26<abrotman>who what ?
22:26<abrotman>!tell chuck about ssb
22:26<chuck>ah, yes, thank you
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22:28<chuck>what mirrors have source for squeeze?
22:28<chuck> doesn't have it
22:29<abrotman>i'm sure it does
22:30<abrotman>it is slow though
22:30<chuck>it does not, as far as I can see
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22:31<chuck>which mirror in the northeast would you suggest?
22:31<abrotman>where in NE ?
22:31<abrotman>are you on i386 or something else ?
22:32<abrotman> .. right there
22:32<chuck>the server is in NJ
22:32<chuck>abrotman: those are binaries
22:33<abrotman>thought there used to be a mirror at rutgers
22:35<chuck> seems to be fairly good
22:35<abrotman>chuck: is in pittsburgh, PSU is in central PA, udel in DE, in MD
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22:37<chuck>abrotman: am I able to submit this deb to backports?
22:38<abrotman>not sure .. i think there's a #debian-backports
22:38<chuck>yay, varnish is installed
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22:57<efort>Does debian log resolver errors somewhere? I'm presently having trouble with name resolution but the upstream box (gateway) resolves names fine.
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23:03<cesurasean>how do I install flashplayer on debian etch+half using apt-get?
23:03<cesurasean>I want to install it on iceweasel
23:03<abrotman>!tell cesurasean about dmm
23:04<abrotman>!tell cesurasean about bpo
23:05<efort>!tell efort about dmm
23:05<efort>!tell efort about bpo
23:06<abrotman>!tell efort about selftell
23:06<cesurasean>why should I have to backport for flashplayer?
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23:07<stew>cesurasean: becuase flash hasn't been released with debian becuase it becomes obsolete too quickly
23:07<stew>cesurasean: its also recommended that you upgrade to lenny, iceweasel is being removed from etch and no longer supported in etch
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23:09<abrotman>he doesn't care!
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23:09<efort>abrotman: my apologies - just wanted to see what the solution was....didn't know it went to the whole channel as I didn't see it when done with others.... wont happen again
23:10<abrotman>no need to apologize .. just letting you know ..
23:11<efort>thanks, any idea about logs for the resolver.
23:11<adama>installing lenny... it appears to be stuck on "configuring apt" at 37%
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23:12<cesurasean>can someone tell me how to install flashplayer on iceweasel?
23:12<cesurasean>is it possible? or do I need firefox?
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23:18<cesurasean>I can't figure out how to install this flash player. :(
23:18<rickbot>apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
23:18<stew>cesurasean: install flashplugin-nonfree from backports
23:18<stew>cesurasean: note that it is recommended that you upgrade to lenny
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23:20<cesurasean>is lenny released yet?
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23:21<stew>cesurasean: it was released a little over a month ago
23:21<stew>cesurasean: and this is what i was referring to in the other channel:
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23:35<f1racer328>Hey, quick question, how do give my server a static internal IP?
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