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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-04-11

---Logopened Sat Apr 11 00:00:13 2009
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00:01<newby>it just shows "Atheros 802.11 wireless PCI adapter
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00:01<newby>but it looks like the drivers are working for it
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00:02<newby>I can pull up all the information in ifconfig like hardware address, TX, RX, etc
00:02<newby>and the interface is UP
00:02<newby>it's bizarre
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01:07<snogglethorpe>newby: weren't there some complaints about the 'ath..5k" driver on the debian-kernel mailing list recently?
01:08<snogglethorpe>newby: might be worth going to look there
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01:25<Gekz>newby: you probably need madwifi
01:25<Gekz>ath5k is rather craptastic
01:25<Gekz>lspci should tell you what card it is
01:28<diego>heya, Im trying to make bit torrent work in here
01:28<diego>but my ISP is not letting the traffic
01:28<diego>even encrypted, it seems to detect
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02:10<Oyashiro>in witch config file i have to add alias sa it can be used on all users acounts ?
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02:22<Catprog>I just reinstalled mdadm and now it cant find 3 of my disks
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02:35<kenyon>Oyashiro: /etc/bash.bashrc if you're using bash.
02:36<shadouts>is there a way to add modules to /lib/modules? Lenny doesn't have my soundcard (but etch did, weird)
02:36<shadouts>everything I read says I'd have to compile a new kernel
02:36<kenyon>shadouts: yep.
02:37<shadouts>kenyon can you explain the science behind that or tell me what I should look into? it seems illogical
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02:38<shadouts>I mean, not how to compile a kernel but why I need to just for a piece of hardware
02:39<kenyon>shadouts: the modules are distributed with the kernel source code. they are built when the kernel is compiled.
02:40<shadouts>so is it missing from the distro or was there a problem of it detecting my hardware when the kernel was installed?
02:40<gsimmons>shadouts: What is your sound card?
02:41<shadouts>Cirrus Logic 4614
02:41<dpkg>The snd-cs46xx ALSA driver is no longer built due to distribution issues, specifically the firmware blob within does not carry a license. See bug #464197 in the <BTS> for more information. A workaround is available for Etch systems with an <etchnhalf> kernel, see
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02:49<shadouts>funny though gsimmons when I run alsaconf it recognizes it as a sb16 before it even finishes testing.
02:50<renato>alguem do brasil? rsrs
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02:53<DevilChaos>hi folks
02:54<DevilChaos>is it possible to access an encrypted volume lvm partition through a knoppix live cd?
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03:00<Supaplex>not unless you know my freakishly long passphrase. HAH
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03:02<Oyashiro>kenyon ok, thnx
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03:14<greeq>for some reason all my desktop icon has disappeared. its checked as enabled in gconf-editor. i m using compiz fusion and mac4lin theme on debian amd64
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03:39<stuart>how can i read my ntfs partition
03:39<gsimmons>!tell stuart -about ntfs
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03:43<stuart>thanks gsimmons
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03:54<mjt>!tell mjt -about ntfs
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03:57<Oyashiro>!tell oyashro -about ntfs
03:59<Oyashiro>!tell oyashiro -about ntfs
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04:30<vopum>i almost broke my system by using "chown -R myuser:myuser /tmp/.*" not knowing that ".*" would POSSIBLY match ".." mercilessly. what can i do to restore some of the original ownerships by using apt-get? (or any other way)
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05:00<keith>Debian 5.0 I installed Lenny on 2 computers and on both the spellcheck on Open Office Writer does not work. Has anyone have the same problem and what can be done about it?
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05:21<fredl>hiya, anybody familiar with how to set up postfix with as a relayhost?
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05:21<fredl>I followed some instructions I found on
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05:22<fredl>(it's not an ubuntu server I'm doing this on though)
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05:23<fredl>that, and I also didn't create a 'transport' file but I simply added 'relayhost []:587' to
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05:24<fredl>I'm getting this: (host[] said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first.
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05:25<robert>hi. can someone help me with a php question?
05:26<fredl>I could, but don't you think you'll have more success at #php?
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05:27<robert>i'm kind of a beginner with php :D. i built a web page where you can read algorithmic problems, send the source code and get the score automatically
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05:27<robert>and i wanted to ask a question about php:
05:28<robert>if you run a program with system("./program") then the stuff you write to stdout in that program will appear on the web page
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05:28<robert>is there a way you can display what you write to stderr?
05:29<fredl>system("./program 2>&1") maybe?
05:29<robert>for e.g. if you write a c++ program which says fprintf(stderr,"wrong answer");. could you display this on your web page?
05:30<robert>i'll give it a try
05:30<fredl>Hmm no #postfix IRC channel here...
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05:32<gsimmons>fredl: Try freenode.
05:34<robert>fredl: wow! it works! i've been looking for this on google for some time :D. thank you very much ;) :D
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05:34<fredl>oi, I'm not on freenode here! LOL
05:34<fredl>ur welcome robert.
05:34<fredl>although I'd have to recommend against using system() but I assume you have a good reason for it.
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05:35<robert>yeah. i use it for compiling the source codes people send
05:35<robert>like system("g++ -Wall source_name.cpp -o executable",$message)
05:36<robert>and if the source code has some errors in it, the compiler sends the error messages to stderr
05:36<fredl>You let people compile C/C++ source code on your webserver and let them run it?
05:37<fredl>I hope you have strong authentication :)
05:37<robert>yeah. it works automatically. the purpose of this stuff is educational, so that students can test their programs in real-time
05:38<robert>the authentication is still to be implemented :D
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05:38<fredl>aha. So you keep your fingers crossed that your students won't be wannabe website hackers? :)
05:39<robert>i hope they don't :D
05:39<HellTiger>hm how can i rerequest nickserv password, have forgot it, and in help is no command for it
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05:41<robert>but the thing is really cool. the idea behind this, is that every algorithmic problem has an input and output file, from which you read/write your data. and then another c++ program test the output with the correct one, which is provided by other files
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05:42<fredl>fortunately your enthusiasm makes up for a thing or two :)
05:42<robert>how can i change my nickname? is there a command?
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05:43<fredl>uh /nick anotherrobert
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05:53<marco__mk>mj : I've solved the problem with usb mount :P
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06:13<robyromania>hello. how can i save the whole output of a program in a php string? (inclusively stdout and stderr)?
06:14<ArthurLiu>robyromania, you better go ask on php irc channels..
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06:14<robyromania>can you give me one?
06:14<marco__mk>robyromania: /j #php
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06:18<keith> Debian 5.0 Has anyone noticed that the spell check on Open
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06:20<keith>Debian 5.0 Has anyone noticed that the spell check on Open Office writer does not work. How do I fix that?
06:20<HellTiger>works here with german stuff
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06:21<keith>Huh! Germans must have written it then.
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06:41<guillaume_>hello, I wanna try twinkle with an ekiga account but get this error : 606 not acceptable. I verify my account setup but all seem to be ok. Any idea ?
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06:47<compiman>Hi all
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06:50<compiman>I have a problem with my build in microphone on my laptop. anyone can tell me why doesn't work with skype?
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06:51<compiman>I have debian lenny amd64 and I have installed skype static build
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06:52<compiman>all is working except microphone...and I don't understand WHY. Can someone please help me?
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07:03<guillaume_>compiman: does it works in other software ?
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08:52<e7th04sh>i wanted to ping
08:52<e7th04sh>but i accidentally pinged
08:53<e7th04sh>in result i pinged 127.0.02
08:53<e7th04sh>what does that mea? :/
08:53<e7th04sh>127.0.02* and it responded, cause it was localhost obviously
08:53<e7th04sh>* and it responded, cause it was localhost obviously
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08:56<e7th04sh>it seems that most of * are translated to
08:56<e7th04sh>does it mean they at tell me that it's
08:56<Nemoder>e7th04sh: you can use dig to see who the domain authority is
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09:39<pr>aí naum tem mulher nessa porra não
09:39<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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09:48<bzed>patrikf: I guess a forced fsck is something you should run (when the disk is not mounted, of course)
09:49<bzed>patrikf: err, ignore that. I managed to forget to scroll down before reading ;)
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09:52<bzed>wlinjie: please speak english here
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09:53<wlinjie>can you speak chinese?
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09:56<bzed>wlinjie: no.
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09:56<wlinjie>are you chinese ?
09:58<dpkg>cn is probably China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
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10:15<ga_bash>wlinjie, hey chinese boy... go to chine
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10:27<vopum>i almost broke my system by using "chown -R myuser:myuser /tmp/.*" not knowing that ".*" would POSSIBLY match ".." mercilessly. what can i do to restore some of the original ownerships by using apt-get? (or any other way)
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10:33<albert3>Does anyone know of a program/file/etc I can use that will cause someone I don't like to become unconscious or die
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10:34<albert3>Maybe it's already in teh apt database I just haven't found it yet
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10:35<albert3>I want to emotionally fuck up people so that I can affect their physical state in the hopes that they will die, maybe someone knows a shortcut?
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10:47<supaman>hey .. all of a sudden my mouse clicks stopped working ... I can move the mouse but I cant click anything (and I dont want to restart my X session because of running programs) ... can I somehow fix this through command line?
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10:48<ffws>get a new one ;)
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10:48<supaman>ffws: pretty sure its not a hardware problem :)
10:50<Guest22>hi - i want to watch a flash movie on , but swfdec-0.6.0 isnt able to . i already installed the adobe flashplayer - but thats not loaded. and i cannot uninstall swfdec without uninstalling gnome ... can someone help me?
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10:52<YuraSt>Âñåì ïðèâåò!
10:53<eljefe>I cannot run alsaconf any more :( and my sound card isn't being recognized by KDE. What provides this executable?
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10:55<ffws>alsaconf is gone
10:55<eljefe>of course, it was too handy... ok then, what is its replacement?
10:56<Torsten_W>there is no replacement
10:56<ffws>there is none as hal is in charge now
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10:56<Torsten_W>udev and hal should recongnize the soundhardware
10:56<eljefe>interesting. how do I get hal to probe for a soundcard or something then?
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10:57<Torsten_W>eljefe: i would say, your card is running
10:57<Torsten_W>eljefe: cat /proc/asound/cards says what?
10:57<eljefe>that only shows the USB Webcam; it doesn't show my onboard nor my sound card
10:58<Torsten_W>eljefe: u need a /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf to setup 2 or more sounddevices
10:58<eljefe>i don't want more, i just want one to work
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10:59<Torsten_W>eljefe: your webcam is also a sounddevice!
10:59<Torsten_W>eljefe: so u have 2
10:59<Torsten_W>remove the webbcam and reboot
10:59<eljefe>sure. ok in that file I have, "alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel \\ options snd-hda-intel index=0"
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11:00<Torsten_W>eljefe: put a second entry for snd-usb-audio as card 1 and index 2
11:00<Torsten_W>index 1
11:02<eljefe>where, on a third line, or between the two existing lines, or at the beginning?
11:02<Torsten_W>card and options is one entry
11:02<Torsten_W>so after the first two lines
11:02<eljefe>or duplicate that whole two-line structure?
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11:03<Torsten_W>eljefe: it's all in the alsa-docu
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11:04<eljefe>alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel \\ options snd-hda-intel index=0 \\ alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio \\ options snd-usb-audio index=1
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11:04<eljefe>and then what, restart alsa?
11:05<eljefe>when I leave that file I get, "No protocol specified"
11:07<tuxcrafter>hi all i am trying to do a debootstrap with lenny and it fails on me
11:07<tuxcrafter>I: Extracting zlib1g...
11:07<tuxcrafter>W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/debinst mount -t proc proc /proc
11:07<tuxcrafter>sudo debootstrap --arch i386 lenny /mnt/debinst/
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11:08<tuxcrafter>any ideas
11:08<eljefe>Torsten_W where do I find these alsa-docu that you mention, locate alsa-docu fails to find that
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11:22<eljefe> Torsten_W I added those lines, unplugged the usb webcam, and rebooted and things seem to be working for me, thanks a lot man.
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11:24<vopum>i found a solution that works for rpms "rpm -qa | xargs rpm --setperms --setugids" and i was hoping i could translate that to apt-get.
11:24<[UDS]CYBERDEViL>Goeiedag eem zeg maar
11:24<Torsten_W>eljefe: btw, the alsa-docu is located in /usr/share/doc/alsa-*
11:24<bcoca>dpkg -l will give you same as rpm -qa
11:24<dpkg>No packages found matching will give you same as rpm -qa
11:24<Torsten_W>eljefe: or online under
11:25<[UDS]CYBERDEViL>Ja, ik heb een vraag lui.. krijg gateway/firewall niet goed met iptables, wie kan mij helpen?
11:25<eljefe>great, thank you
11:26<[UDS]CYBERDEViL>Hij doet niet...
11:26<bcoca>vopum: use "dpkg -l" to get installed package list (you might need to grep 'ii' and then cut
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11:28<bcoca>dpkg openvas
11:28<dpkg>bcoca: are you smoking crack?
11:28*bcoca pets dpkg
11:29<bcoca>dpkg -l openvas
11:29<dpkg>ii openvas 3.8-4.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
11:29*bcoca gives dpkg a cookie
11:31<tuxcrafter>$ sudo chroot /mnt/debinst
11:31<tuxcrafter>/bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/ version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /bin/bash)
11:31<tuxcrafter>somebody knows how to work around that issue
11:32<bcoca>tuxcrafter: i get that when using 32bit to chroot into 64 bit debian
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11:34<tuxcrafter>bcoca: this may be 686 to 386 chroot
11:34<tuxcrafter>but what can one do?
11:34<bcoca>download install cd of correct arch, use that to boot and chroot
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11:35<bcoca>though 686 to 386 shouldn't have that issue
11:35<bcoca>but it might be cause of changes in libc6, versions might be too far appart
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11:35<tuxcrafter>also this in my bootstrab logs:
11:35<tuxcrafter>mount: relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/ symbol _dl_out_of_memory, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file with link time reference
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11:36<bcoca>def seems you have a libc version issue
11:37<bcoca>which is bad cause your whole system depends on it
11:37<tuxcrafter>ok i am going to format the disk and start over then
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11:38<Zookey>is debian better than xp?
11:38<tuxcrafter>Zookey: depends on your needs
11:38<Zookey>my needs are multimedia and good performance
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11:39<tuxcrafter>what kind or multimedia
11:39<Zookey>hmm browsing, chatting, gaming
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11:39<tuxcrafter>ok zo now 3d video creations, and video editing and audio mixing :-D
11:39<bcoca>Zookey: yes, yes, depends on games
11:40<tuxcrafter>Zookey: gaming is an issue, depending on the type of games you play
11:40<fxiny>wt4x : debian cames with thousand of packages and archs . how much this will cost if Xp branded ? just tell me
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11:40<tuxcrafter>Zookey: see winehq website for gaming info
11:40<fxiny>s/archs/many archs/
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11:41<bcoca>fxiny: windows used to support 2 archs, intel and alpha, which they never got working right
11:41<bcoca>and cost a bundle
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11:42<fxiny>say you want to pay for it : do you trust spyware like that ?
11:43<fxiny>i can understand a gamer using xp
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11:43<fxiny>a game is a game
11:44<Zookey>i only play a game at the time that works on linux too
11:45<bcoca>Zookey: work and performance are not the same thing, sadly most games are very well tweaked for windows but not for linux
11:46<Zookey>hmm i am running ubuntu here at another computer, i'll try the performance here.
11:46<bcoca>good news is that on linux you don't normally have all the cruft that slows your pc down on windows
11:46<bcoca>specially debian, its a lean distro
11:46<Zookey>i am running debian and xp on dualboot on my notebook, i think this is good.
11:47<bcoca>on both there is a lot you can do to tweak performance yourself
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11:47<fxiny>debian Gnu/linux offers top quality scientific and maths programs , btw . how many people can afford it ?
11:47<bcoca>from disk configuration to stopping unneeded servcies
11:48<bcoca>fxiny: forget afordability, i use it at work cause of stability and performance
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11:50<fxiny>bcoca: afordability is an issue : is it better using a pirated spreadsheet or gnumeric/oocalc ?
11:50<fxiny>some people just but a pc with office because they need it
11:51<bcoca>fxiny: it is for lots of people, i'm saying you don't even need to get down to that, there are many other reasons most people and companies consider more important
11:52<bcoca>fxiny: bottom line is not only influenced by purchase price (free is great!) but by maintenance (windows very high, linux lots lower)
11:52<grummund>hi, i need to build a professional looking business website, just a few static pages, any pointers pls as to where on earth i should start?
11:52*grummund already has a server, but only basic html experience
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11:53<Arkenklo>grummund: you want html and css
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11:54<grummund>there seem to be hundreds of 'template' factories online, is that a good place to start
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11:55<stuckey>Anyone know how I can resolve this: configure: error: Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries.
11:55<stuckey>I'm trying to compile wine 1.1.19
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11:56<vrijlooper>ubuntu geinstalleerd, maar geen geluid
11:57<Torsten_W>stuckey: apt-get build-dep wine
11:57<stuckey>Torsten_W: thanks
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11:58<vrijlooper>no sound in ubuntu, how can I solve this problem
11:58<vrijlooper>audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Kan het apparaat niet openen voor afspelen. Apparaat is in gebruik bij een andere applicatie.
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11:59<vrijlooper>Hoe kan ik dit invoeren
11:59<fxiny>vrijlooper: easy done : join #ubuntu
11:59<vrijlooper>Hoe kan ik de kanaalgrens op 407 zetten?
12:00<Maximee>hi =), i'm on debian from yesterday, and today i've restarded my computer, and all sound are played by the internal speaker ofmy pc.... can you help me please :s
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12:01<fxiny>Maximee: what do you mean buy "all sound" ?
12:02<fxiny>and , which debian flavour are you running ?
12:02<vrijlooper>When I start the computer no sound in the beginning
12:02<vrijlooper>And also no sound from any player or tv program
12:03<vrijlooper>I think the last one
12:03<fxiny>vrijlooper: i understand your problem byt this is a debian support channel
12:03<fxiny>vrijlooper: you should join #ubuntu at
12:03<vrijlooper>How can I connect to the right channel?
12:04<vrijlooper>I'm quit new
12:04<Maximee>all sounds, all musics i play are played in the internal speaker, i've unplugged the external jack andthe is the same
12:04<fxiny>switch server : /server
12:04<fxiny>vrijlooper: np , good luck :)
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12:05<Maximee>my english is bad :s
12:05<fxiny>is ok
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12:10<dpkg>1) run alsaconf as root 2) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 3) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. <list alsa users>
12:10<fxiny>Maximee: start with this ^^^
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12:10<Maximee>hum alsaconf jsut fixed the problem :D
12:10<Maximee>Thx a lot
12:11<bremner>so, what audio cd ripper doesn't suck too bad, now that grip is dead?
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12:20<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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12:26<k3ninho>what options should I set in /etc/fstab to have user-writable FAT and NTFS partitions? At present they're root-only -- I've tried 'user'
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12:29<bremner>k3ninho: maybe needs uid=xxxx,gid=xxxx, not sure
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12:29<bremner>k3ninho: who mounts the partitions, root or user?
12:29<k3ninho>automounted at boot
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12:29<bremner>ahh, maybe don't do that?
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12:30<k3ninho>okay. I'll see about the initscripts to try a user-level initial mount. thxall. bye.
12:31<bremner>k3ninho: gnome or kde will mount them for you for example
12:31<ringo999>hi I'm running debian on a macbook and I would like to make use of ath9k wifi driver. For that I need a kernel >= 2.6.27. I'm new to kernel building and I followed this tutorial. : I configured/build the kernel, but now I am stuck on how to create a intial ramdisk using mkinitramfs and getting it to work with lilo. Anybody out there who would
12:31<bremner>just say noauto in fstab, no initscripts tomfoolery needed
12:32<k3ninho>ok. will try.
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12:34<bremner>I guess ripit will do for a cd-ripper.
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12:35<fxiny>don't you like abcde ?
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12:36<bremner>don't know it. Is it better?
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12:36<fxiny>i can't say is better then ripit
12:36<ringo999>basically, i'm wondering in what folder i need to exectue mkinitramfs and what parameter to give...
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12:37<fxiny>it looks symilar , one command rips an audit cd
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12:41<bremner>fxiny: yeah, they look pretty comparable. abcde has more options maybe.
12:45<dpkg>from memory, make-kpkg is the tool that you use for compiling the kernel the Debian Way (tm). It makes a package for your custom kernel which you can install and remove easily using dpkg. See man make-kpkg and ask me about <kernel compile> <kp mantra> <kernel build-deps>.
12:45<kop>ringo999 : ^^
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12:50<fxiny>bremner: i used mp3c as well . good for ripping a single/selected tracks only
12:50<bremner>fxiny: I think I pretty much never want to do that, but thanks for the suggestion.
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13:02<pinky_>How do I keep resolv.conf from being overwritten? I've edited it to my dns settings but it keeps reverting
13:03<dpkg>To fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>). Alternatively, use resolvconf and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base; resolvconf -u (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>.
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13:03<pinky_>ah, thanks
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13:07<RaZa>hey all. Adding an NTP server to the network and i've got it working with vista, but it doesn't seem to work with XP. the contents of /etc/ntp.conf are currently
13:07<RaZa>Can anyone shed any light on to why Xp might give me grief?
13:08<RaZa>just seems odd that one microsoft OS works with the server and another doesn't
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13:40<stuckey>Trying to play a dvd with mplayer; I'm using "mplayer dvd://1". It plays the copyright notice and quits. Does anyone know how to get mplayer to play a DVD?
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13:41<fxiny>dvd://2 ?
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13:42<fxiny>copyright notice ? heheheh
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13:42<stuckey>fxiny: say there isn'ta 2
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13:44<tp>Is it possible to determine that a swap partition must be completely used before a second be used? I want this because my first partition is a fast flash memory stick and the second is a file in a XFS fs. Thanks
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13:46<fxiny>stuckey: is libdvdcss2 installed ?
13:46<stuckey>fxiny: no
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13:48<stuckey>I have a new problem:
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13:49<stuckey>Why is it doing this? this is the same cd I installed the system with
13:49<stuckey>I've always used it
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13:50<stuckey>fxiny: libdvdcss2 isn't in lenny repo
13:50<fxiny>stuckey: is behind St.Marillat church altar : dmm :P
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13:52<stuckey>Does mplayer not play dvds or is there some other program I should use?
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13:52<fxiny>stuckey: about your pastebin : apt asks for apt-cdrom , i ask why are you not using aptitude ?
13:52<stuckey>Why should I use aptitude?
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13:53<fxiny>stuckey: because lenny aptitude is a pretty good advanced tool
13:53<stuckey>fxiny: and so is apt-get...
13:53<stuckey>Do you know how to make mplayer play DVDs?
13:53<fxiny>no way . apt-get is dumb
13:53<stuckey>Or do you know of a program that plays DVDs?
13:54<fxiny>stuckey: mplayer is fine . add dmm to your sources
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13:55<dpkg>hmm... dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>.
13:55<stuckey>I only want to use offical packages
13:56<fxiny>debian do not provide patent-related apps
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13:56<fxiny>not even an icon , ask mozilla :P
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13:59<fxiny>stuckey: and you are havinf some "it plays the copyright notice and quits" . dunno your settings nor what dvd are you checking
14:02<fxiny>stuckey: i'm using Mariullat mplayer right now , never had problems since ages
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14:23<D6>Hi. I have FF2 installed and would like to install FF3 (iceweasel). It faild with the following error: "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png', which is also in package firefox-2". Then I made a diversion: "dpkg-divert --divert /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox-iceweasel.png --rename /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png", but installation of FF3 still fails with same err
14:23<D6>Why? Thanks.
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14:24<bremner>D6: is this a debian package?
14:24<D6>bremner: FF2 was ported from Ubuntu, iceweasel is native from Lenny.
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14:25<D6>so yes< both of them are debian packages
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14:26<bremner>err, no.
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14:30<bremner>D6: maybe re-read the dpkg-divert man page, where it talks about diverting "all packages" version of a file.
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14:31<bremner>D6: since iceweasel also provides /usr/bin/firefox, I think your troubles are just beginning
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14:31<D6>bremner: That FF2 doesn't provide "/usr/bin/firefox", it provides "/usr/bin/firefox-2" instead
14:32<bremner>D6: ok, good luck then.
14:32<D6>bremner: no, --local didn't help
14:32<D6>still the same error
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14:36<bremner>D6: sorry, that about all I have to say. I would suggest if you must run multiple versions of firefox, install one into /usr/local. There is no particular reason to expect Ubuntu packages to work in Debian. It's cool when they do, but that's about it.
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14:37<D6>ok i'll try
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15:21<vyrus001>is there a reason why the compiz-gnome package dependancys are broken?
15:21<vyrus001>im getting a dependancy error that claims libgnome-desktop-2 does not exsist and is a dependancy?
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15:24<seanius>vyrus001: unstable?
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15:24<vyrus001>seanius: yea sid
15:25<seanius>vyrus001: there were a bunch of uploads fixing 0.8.2 today, probably just need to wait a few hours
15:26<seanius>vyrus001: could you show the error message just in case?
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15:29<vyrus001>seanius: well im in pure term since this is a new install and compiz isnt goin in :D but the apt error is that compiz-gnome and compiz-plugins cant be installed
15:29<vyrus001>and those are both because of lib dependancys... bassicly gnome has a bunch of broken crap in apt
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15:30<seanius>vyrus001: can you put the error message in a pastebin post?
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15:30<vyrus001>seanius: heheh again, no gui... i can type out the appt err if you want though, gimi a sec
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15:32<vyrus001>apt-get install compiz-gnome => the fallowing packages have unmet dependancys: libgnome-desktop-2 >= 2.22.0 is not installable, libgnome-window-settings1 is not going to be installed
15:32<vyrus001>seanius: that what ur lookin for?
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15:33<seanius>vyrus001: something like that
15:33<seanius>dpkg: tell vyrus001 about pastebinit
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15:34<seanius>there's a cmdline pastebin client so you can paste the full output
15:34<seanius>hopefully it's installable while apt is unhappy
15:34<FoxM>Hi. My notebook has touchscreen capabilities, but in order to work properly, I had to create an InputDevice on xorg.con that uses the 'void' driver and it is connected to /dev/input/mice and SendCoreEvents = false. Now, if I want to connect an external mouse I tried to use the 'mouse' driver, connected to /dev/input/mouse3 with SendCoreEvents = true, but still the mouse seems not to respond to events from that device. Do you know how can enable that device only,
15:34<FoxM>er devices? I think It is worth noticing that the synaptics driver works perfectly
15:34<vyrus001>seanius: wow... thats .... awsome, i had no idea
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15:36<seanius>vyrus001: actually, i think i see the problem, there's a bunch of gnome junk uploaded recently to sid and compiz was compiled against the older libs
15:37<seanius>vyrus001: do you also have squeeze lines in your sources.list?
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15:37<vyrus001>so i guess im just stuck waiting for the updates to the libs then
15:37<vyrus001>seanius: no
15:37<vyrus001>seanius: guess ill add that
15:37<seanius>try that, it might get you by in the meantime
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15:42<FoxM>Hi. My notebook has touchscreen capabilities, but in order to work properly, I had to create an InputDevice on xorg.con that uses the 'void' driver and it is connected to /dev/input/mice and SendCoreEvents = false. Now, if I want to connect an external mouse I tried to use the 'mouse' driver, connected to /dev/input/mouse3 with SendCoreEvents = true, but still the mouse seems not to respond to events from that device. Do you know how can enable that device only,
15:42<FoxM>er devices? I think It is worth noticing that the synaptics driver works perfectly. My xorg.conf file:
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15:43<vyrus001>seanius: well adding squeeze and that worked so... guess ill just update alot ;)
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15:45<seanius>vyrus001: i find it's usually better to have testing and unstable active as a general rule anyway, because of situations like these
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15:55<Blooddly> << Beat me in this cute and original game! Its almost totally random!! Try it out guys :)
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16:09<hallowname>where can i get binary ati driver help? the latest driver wont compile with the latest kernel =/
16:10<Torsten_W>hallowname: what's your kernel-version?
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16:12<Torsten_W>hallowname: fglrx won't work with 2.6.29
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16:13<hallowname>Torsten_W: poo :D thx for telling me, i would have torn my hair out googlin
16:13<hallowname>Torsten_W: kno y?
16:13<Torsten_W>kno y?
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16:13<ffws>know why
16:13<dpkg>guest58: VATTENE VIA
16:13<ffws>(I think)
16:14<Torsten_W>hallowname: ask amd
16:14<hallowname>Torsten_W: gotcha. bk to squeeze kernel for me then. thx for ur help.
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16:17<adema>hello everyone
16:17<adema>i just installed pulseaudio on my laptop
16:18<adema>i can play sound from my laptop to my desktop computer, but i can't play sound on the laptop alone
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16:20<FoxM>Hi. My notebook has touchscreen capabilities, but in order to work properly, I had to create an InputDevice on xorg.con that uses the 'void' driver and it is connected to /dev/input/mice and SendCoreEvents = false. Now, if I want to connect an external mouse I tried to use the 'mouse' driver, connected to /dev/input/mouse3 with SendCoreEvents = true, but still the mouse seems not to respond to events from that device. Do you know how can enable that device only,
16:20<FoxM>er devices? I think It is worth noticing that the synaptics driver works perfectly. My xorg.conf file:
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16:42<Oyashiro>how can i change number of displayed lines in text mode ?
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16:50<Golfgeo>Hi all
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16:52<Golfgeo>anyone got kde4 up and running on a mixed system?
16:52<Golfgeo>*mixed as in debs from multiple versions?
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16:54<Aesdana>i`m not
16:55<Golfgeo>Anyone who is and has run into dependency problems when installing the kde4 package?
16:55<enouf>Oyashiro: up the resolution?
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16:55<enouf>Oyashiro: i use vga=791 as a kernel boot param, so my consoles are all 1024x768x16bit
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16:57<Oyashiro>enouf just googl'ed it, but thnx anyway xD
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17:01<chealer>Golfgeo: ask #debian-kde
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17:07<bremner>Golfgeo: or read the archives of
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17:24<deadcat>what options do i need to encode a .vob file to .avi or something like that.. using mencoder.
17:25<amphi>the docs give various examples for different codecs
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17:25<deadcat>amphi: oh man!!! )=
17:27<deadcat>amphi: what about from minute 15 to minut 20 of the file?
17:28<amphi>-ss 15:00 -endpos 5:00
17:29<amphi>I mean the docs in /usr/share not man mencoder, which is quite daunting
17:30<deadcat>amphi: ah. (=
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17:36<tezeract>hello there
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17:57<paveq>can just anyone reopen a bug in I found old archived bug which still exists and I would like to append it...
17:58<paveq>should I reopen it first
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18:00<chealer>paveq: anyone can reopen, yes. you only reopen if the bug is still present. if you just want to send a follow-up, you only need to unarchive.
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18:00<paveq>chealer: does reopening unarchive it?
18:00<paveq>yes, it is still present
18:00<paveq>so, unarchive first, then reopen and then append?
18:01<chealer>paveq: no. right.
18:01<paveq>can I combine these into single email?
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18:03<paveq>actions need to be sent to control@, but appending to <number>@, right?
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18:04<chealer>paveq: I don't think you can combine. right. I'd unarchive and reopen then send a mail to <number>@
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18:13<GT>Hello! Since the last kernel upgrade, the xorg.conf generated by nvidia-xconfig no longer works, and the nvidia "drivers" no longer load, so there is no more 3D for me.
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18:18<GT>And I would like 3D. Doesn't anyone know how this is supposed to be configured?
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18:22<GT>...So, nobody had any idea whatsoever how you're supposed get nvidia drivers to work on Debian Lenny?
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18:23<azeem>GT: you didn't even say from what to what kernel you upgraded
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18:24<GT>Ahh, sorry. I figured people would guess from "the most recent," but... 2.6.26-2... Ooo, that looks relevant!
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18:29<max->GT: what's your problem? i didn't see cause i just joined
18:32<GT>I upgraded to 2.6.26-2-686 from 2.6.26-1-686 and X failed to start using the xorg.conf generated from nvidia-xconfig. I THINK this might solve it...
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18:33<gergo>Hi all!
18:33<max->hi gergo
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18:34<ffws>GT: did you rebuilt the nvidia modul?
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18:35<GT>I don't usually build them...
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18:35<max->GT: look at Xorg.0.log in /var/log and see what it says :)
18:36<ffws>GT: nvidia module is kernel specific...
18:37<GT>Yes... Yes it is. And it didn't install the new one when I upgraded the kernel... That's probably the problem.
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18:46<klan>some can help me ?
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18:47<ffws>don't know yet...
18:47<amphi>!tell klan -about ask
18:47<klan>my X wont start
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18:48<brian17>if my debian says it is sid/squeeze does that mean i am running a mish-mash?
18:48<amphi>testing, I would think
18:48<max->klan: what's your gfx card?
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18:49<klan>vut the driver is not instaled
18:49<max->klan: lspci|grep -i "vga"
18:50<klan>X cant find display
18:50<klan>dont now why
18:50<max->well, what's your gfx card?
18:51<brian17>sound lags on my system- does anyone know what the problem might be
18:51<klan>ati 9550
18:51<ffws>klan: if your running sid you got a new xorg version last days...sure everything was updated?
18:51<ffws>klan: look ath teh xorg log files, solution is there
18:51<klan>this is a clean install
18:51<klan>was instaled and updatet today
18:52<chealer>brian17: no
18:52<chealer>!tell brian17 about squeeze/sid
18:52<max->klan: do a dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
18:53<max->klan: and answer all the questions
18:53<klan>ok thanks
18:53<max->klan: this will automatically generate a new xorg.conf
18:53<klan>c ya later
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18:54<brian17> if i run a aptitude full-upgrade without changing my sources is it harmful?
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18:58<adb>!tell brian17 about full-upgrade
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18:59<brian17>how do i configure alsa on squeeze?
18:59<brian17>alsaconf does not work
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19:00<deniz>is it possible to use webcam/mic with empathy on squeeze with the msn protocol?
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19:01<adb>brian17: alsaconf is deprecated , so inexistent
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19:01<brian17>what is the equivilant command
19:01<brian17>what do you do in squeeze
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19:02<adb>i'm on lenny
19:02<brian17>god debian is a mess
19:02<brian17>my sound doesn't work under lenny or squeeze
19:03<brian17>its not even a bizzare sound setup
19:03<max->debian is the best system ever made
19:03<brian17>just realtek alc662
19:03<brian17>too bad debian doesn't support common integrated sound
19:04<bremner>max-: it could still be a mess, and be the best system ever
19:04<petern>heh, "doesn't work"
19:05<adb>!doesn't work
19:05<dpkg>Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message".
19:05<max->it isn't a mess everything is perfect :)
19:05*bremner hands max- the red pill
19:06<brian17>my sound "works" but it lags
19:06<brian17>so essentially it is useless
19:07<brian17>stuttering etc...
19:07<brian17>does alsa always do "emulation"?
19:08<brian17>or is that a weird setting going on on my system
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19:29<bremner>Is there something like latexdiff already in debian (
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19:35<mtc>seems like there are issues with the usb drivers
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19:36<mtc>since installing debian 5.0, seen my first kerneloops, seen plugging in a usb drive take all other usb drivers offline, and seen errors and slow transfer rates
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19:43<denmax>guten morgen
19:43<denmax>ich brauch kurz hilfe^^
19:44<denmax>bin umsteiger und hab nen 21zoll monitor, ich kann aber nur bildschirmauflösungen biis 1024x786 auswählen
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19:45<denmax>gibts ne möglichkeit, das auf 1600x1200 hauchzuschrauben?
19:45<denmax>d.h. eine, die ich versteh
19:45<foxes>LED order CTR?
19:45<denmax>uralt -.-
19:46<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
19:46<denmax>dann wohl
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20:16<foxes>I can use IRC, but cant browse webpage in any browser after I restart my debian.
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20:17<foxes>I have: ADSL-Modem + Router + PC
20:17<hank>i'm trying to do a ddrescue over ssh and I'm having difficulty with the bash syntax.. i'm using the following:
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20:17<hank>ddrescue /dev/sda - | ssh hank@ 'dd of=/media/data/backup.img'
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20:18<hank>it worked well with dd_rescue, but it's not working on ddrescue; it creates a 1.7k file on the target and crashes.
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20:30<famelix>hi, anyone can help me?
20:32<famelix>i need help to connect my server to internet...
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20:43<mtc>just figured out the issue with the bad usb driver is probably from the usb memory drive that uses encrypted volumes - need to reformat the drive
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21:04<Terminalx>I cannot find the package "linux-headers-2.6.18-92".
21:04<Terminalx>Any suggestions?
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21:11<chahibi>What should be executed after altering /etc/hosts to allow additional subdomains?
21:12<bcoca>chahibi: nothing resolv library just looks at it first
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21:13<chahibi>bcoca, I can ping the new subdomain from the local host, but not from outside
21:13<chahibi>bcoca, what could be the problem?
21:13<bcoca>hosts is only for local machine
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21:14<Terminalx>I'm trying to install VMWare Server on my dedicated, and I keep getting errors from the installer.
21:14<Terminalx>The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.18-5-486) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2). Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
21:14<bcoca>you need to alter each host's hosts file or alter your DNS server
21:16<chealer>Terminalx: which Debian suite do you use?
21:16<Terminalx>Debian 5.0 Lenny
21:18<chealer>Terminalx: is there a reason why you're not using lenny's Linux?
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21:20<Terminalx>Well, what happened was when I originally obtained my dedicated, it was running etch, then I updated everything to lenny.
21:21<bcoca>Terminalx: FYI, 2.6.18 is vulnerable to vmsplice privlege escalation, you might want to upgrade anyways
21:21<Terminalx>Alright, how would I go about on doing that?
21:22<chealer>Terminalx: just install one of the prebuilt Linux images adapted to your CPU
21:22<chahibi>bcoca, Does it normally take time for a subdomain to be enabled, or is it instantaneous?
21:22<Terminalx>chealer: Right, but I don't know where, nor how.
21:23<bcoca>chahibi: hosts files are a shortcut in DNS resolution, they are immediate for the hosts it is on, some software keeps it's own cache though and might need to be restarted
21:24<chealer>Terminalx: do you have some grounding on Debian?
21:24<chahibi>bcoca, do you mean client or server software?
21:25<Terminalx>What do you mean? If you mean do I know how to use linux (Debian) then yes.
21:25<bcoca>chanibi: doesn't matter, whatever is running on the host, if it caches dns responses.
21:25<chealer>Terminalx: did you already use APT (a package manager)?
21:25<bcoca>hosts files are for the local machine only, they are not part of the DNS service, just a shortcut to fool local DNS resolution
21:26<Terminalx>apt-cache search kernel-image
21:26<Terminalx>The only ones that are coming up are 2.6, and in /usr/src I already have them.
21:26<chealer>Terminalx: right... though kernel-image is now called linux-image
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21:29<Terminalx>cheater: I 'apt-get install apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.29-1-686
21:29<Terminalx>cheater: I 'apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.29-1-686', it's installed, what is the next step in this process?
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21:33<chealer>Terminalx: my nickname is chealer (you can use nickname tab-completion to avoid mistakes). 2.6.29 is not in lenny but in sid. if APT offered you 2.6.29, that's because you have unstable sources, which is probably not something you want.
21:33<chealer>Terminalx: I have to go, but I recommend you someone to verify that your APT sources are correct.
21:33<Terminalx>And that would be?
21:33<chealer>s/you someone/you ask someone/
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21:35<max->Terminalx: why do you need the linux headers?
21:37<max->Terminalx: never mind.
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21:43<Terminalx>max-: Because, I'm trying to install VMWare Server
21:44<max->Terminalx: yeap i saw that later
21:44<Terminalx>However, I cannot because of the wrong kernel version and sources
21:46<max->never compiled vmware server though
21:46<bcoca>i use openvz if i dont need diff hardware emulation, qemu when i do
21:47<Terminalx>I'm going to try to emulate Mac OS X (Legally).
21:47<bcoca>nvmd, u mean x86 os X
21:48<Terminalx>Yeah, I think so. However, I already have a legal copy of a VMWare Image of Mac OS X 10.5.
21:48<Terminalx>That's why I've chosen VMWare Server.
21:49<jrabbit>YOu cannot emulate OSX (client)
21:49<bcoca>qemu can use vmware
21:49<jrabbit>you can can emulte osx server
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21:49<max->Terminalx: isn't it possible to run ./configure with some additional options, such as specify alternative linux headers to use?
21:49<jrabbit>it is a vilation of the SLA
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21:50<Terminalx>No. It does this weird thing with perl.
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22:41<deniz>is it possible for a computer to control itself thru remote desktop for testing purposes b4 i actually try connecting to anotherr comp?
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22:56<JordiGH>Can anyone offer some pointers on how to mount an encrypted partition from a live cd?
22:56<JordiGH>Or booting from pendrive, whatever.
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22:57<dpkg>somebody said luks was cryptsetup with luks support: "". LUKS is a secure way to store key's for a cryptopartition. See and google 'LUKS Debian' for more info
22:59<JordiGH>am I asking something too specific?
23:00<JordiGH>Because I can't find something that says "boot this cd, follow these steps to unencrypt your hd from the cd".
23:00<Supaplex>I don't have my lappy handy...
23:01<JordiGH>Oh, hey, pmount can do it?
23:02<JordiGH>Oh, first I need to create the device...
23:02<Supaplex>I imagine you need a module or something loaded
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23:03<JordiGH>This is going to be fun... especially since I'm trying to guide someone else over chat how to do this.
23:03<JordiGH>o/` It's the blind leading the blind p/`
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23:04<Supaplex>more fun than a van full of pythons
23:05<JordiGH>Actually, maybe they won't show up.
23:05<JordiGH>We had a late night Jabber date to do this.
23:06<JordiGH>I'm hoping they don't show up so I can go to bed and not worry about this problem.
23:06<Supaplex>you have my permission
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23:08<marc_>anyone help me with a root user problem?
23:08<Supaplex>I sure someone can. What's the problem?
23:09<marc_>i had to make a file to make my sound card work and when I try to save it to the proper directory it won't let me, I try to log in as root to do it and it says admin can't login from the user login screen
23:10<marc_>make a file even
23:10<Supaplex>does sudo work?
23:10<marc_>it never asks me for root pass and still has my user name at cursor
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23:11<bcoca>sudo uses your password, not root's
23:11<marc_>i do not know how to move a file with sudo..
23:11<bcoca>sudo mv file destination
23:12<bcoca>as root, check sudoers file
23:12<marc_>k, thanks I'll try it
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23:15<JordiGH>Hm, my initramdisk should have some clues on what it does in order to mount the encrypted root fs, right?
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23:16<JordiGH>... an update messed up my emacs...
23:16<bcoca>vim ate it?
23:16<JordiGH>there will be blood
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23:20<Supaplex>vim is smart that way.
23:22<JordiGH>A Debian update broke my Emacs!
23:22<bcoca>im sure a vim user would consider that an upgrade
23:22<marc_>thanks bcoca it moved it and now I can reboot and see if my sb live sound works
23:22<Supaplex>sounds like a feature
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23:22<JordiGH>It used to be beautiful:
23:23<JordiGH>Now it looks like this:
23:23*JordiGH demands an explanation.
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23:23<Supaplex>someday you'll figure out emacs is depreciated :)
23:23*JordiGH hopes someone has already filed this bug. Severity: Critical.
23:24*bcoca thinks emacs has grown intelligent and is trying to take over JordiGH's computer
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23:27<Ben90>i got a question
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23:28<Ben90>my sound in wine is not working
23:28<Supaplex>I thought questions ended with a question mark.
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23:28<Ben90>and alltogether
23:28<dpkg>[sound] ask me about <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound>, <arts> and <devdsp>.
23:28<Ben90> the sound barely works
23:29<Supaplex>is wine configured to use it correctly? are you using oss? what kernel? what wine release? what debian release?
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23:29<Ben90>im using alsa
23:30<Ben90>the kernel is 2.6
23:30<Ben90>im not sure about the wine release but the debian release is lenny
23:31<Supaplex>upgrade from etch? did sound in wine work before?
23:33<Ben90>no just installed lenny then added support for beta builds
23:33<Supaplex>beta builds of what?
23:33<Ben90>and it idi work before
23:33<Ben90>sid and squeeze
23:33<Supaplex>check bts for any new reports.
23:34<Ben90>how do i do that?
23:34<Supaplex>chances are good this isn't related to legacy config, but something new happened.
23:34<Supaplex>!btssmite Ben90
23:34*dpkg beats Ben90 around the head repeatedly with and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if Ben90 is running testing or unstable
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23:35<Ben90>so do i just go back to lenny
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23:36<Supaplex>did you find a similar bug report?
23:36<Ben90>on what?
23:36<Supaplex>for this issue you describe
23:36<Ben90>never looked
23:36<Supaplex>then you might want to look.
23:37<Ben90>but sound in other programs outside of wine are somewhat working
23:37<Supaplex>testing/unstable implies you're willing to do the work to get to the root of the problem. they're more geared to the developer.
23:37<Ben90>oh ok
23:38<Ben90>i just used them to see the new features
23:38<Ben90>what debian do you currently support supaplex
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23:39<Ben90>is it lenny
23:39<Supaplex>#debian offically supports stable first and foremost.
23:40<Ben90>!beer supaplex
23:40*dpkg pours a pint of Guinness for supaplex
23:40<Ben90>!beer dpkg
23:40*dpkg pulls out a tasty Jever for dpkg
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23:47<Ben90>so should i set debian back to lenny?
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23:47<Ben90>my sound is working
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23:48<Ben90>i gues not.
23:48<Supaplex>I don't know if it'll work better, but you're free to try.
23:48<Ben90>ok cya
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