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00:12<dserban>any test I can run that will write to the swap partition?
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00:23<h2-2>I'm trying to install mysql-server-5.0 on debian testing but the package keeps looping
00:23<h2-2>post install script returns error, I see an error: unknown option: '--skip-federated'
00:24<h2-2>this blocks everything else in the dist-upgrade from running too
00:24<adb>judd: versions mysql-server-5.0
00:24<judd>adb: mysql-server-5.0 -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch8 etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch10 lenny: 5.0.51a-24 etch-backports: 5.0.51a-24+lenny1~bpo40+1 lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny1 squeeze: 5.0.51a-24+lenny1 sid: 5.0.81-1
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00:26<h2-2>that's the same version that's puking on me
00:26<Hannibal>you still arround?
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00:27<h2-2>the lenny 5.0.51a-24
00:27<Hannibal>enouf, if you are, my drives are still in the same spot :S
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00:33<adb>h2-2: just installed this on lenny and installed fine
00:34<h2-2>this is squeeze
00:34<h2-2>I'm googling
00:34<h2-2>it's a known issue
00:35<adb>squeeze and lenny are the same
00:36<h2-2>heh, google is giving me my own forum posting on it
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00:41<adb>h2-2: apt-get -f install
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00:42<h2-2>it was mysql-common breaking it
00:42<h2-2>it's fine now, thanks though
00:42<h2-2>ubuntu had a thread on that issue
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00:44<adb>heh , now i got mysql-server/client ... what a can do with?
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00:47<nataraj>which is the channel for emdebian?
00:47<gsimmons>nataraj: #emdebian on this network.
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00:48<nataraj>gsimmons , thank you
00:48<nataraj>this channel is for?
00:48<adb>debian users
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00:53<miickee>Now before I commit to yet another install of ati drivers, would the debian wiki ( be suitable for an ati radeon HD3450?
00:54<dpkg>[radeon] A brand of graphic processing units by ATI ( For chipsets prior to R600 (ie. models up to and including the X1950), use the "radeon" xorg driver and optionally install 'libgl1-mesa-dri' for 3D acceleration. Alternatively, the non-free <fglrx> driver can be used (recent chipsets, usually better 3D performance/features). See also <radeonhd>. #radeon @ freenode.
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00:59<miickee>Ok noone's answering on #ati or #radeon in freenode
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01:02<gsimmons>miickee: It should be suitable, as (IIRC) the fglrx-driver version in Lenny supports the RV620 GPU. In any event, TIAS.
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01:03<gsimmons>dpkg: tias
01:03<dpkg>i heard tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first.
01:03<miickee>Ok lol
01:04<miickee>I want this to work cause I really like lenny
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01:06<miickee>gsimmons: Ok, the next step it says is to x window system from running to perform the next step, then I won't be able to see the net browser, right?
01:07<miickee>*stop the x windows system from running
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01:07<sney>unless you're using lynx
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01:08<gsimmons>miickee: X applications will be terminated, yes. You might be interested in links2, lynx2, w3m, et al.
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01:08<miickee>I'll just write the commands down lol
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01:11<miguel>how can i setup , that x starts before logging in , and shows some graphical loginscreen
01:12<miickee>gsimmons: Sorry to be a bother, but the step following closing x windows system was "modprobe fglrx", it said "Module fglrx not found"?
01:12<jm_>install a display manager
01:12<miguel>my other problem is, that im unable to shutdown the system
01:12<gsimmons>miickee: Did you build a fglrx-kernel-* package? (step 3)
01:12<jm_>shutdown how?
01:12<miguel>have to login as root in order to do that
01:13<miguel>i want to shut it down from x as normal user too
01:13<miickee>To be honest no, because I assumed the tutorial was aimed at someone like me, limited knowledge of linux, and would have been included in the tutorial
01:13<jm_>from x? use sudo
01:13<miickee>gsimmons: wait, I see it
01:13<miickee>gsimmons: I'm blind
01:13<jm_>miickee: average user shouldn't not ignore steps listed in the instructions
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01:13<gsimmons>miickee: Clearly. :)
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01:14<miickee>gsimmons: Is your line of work IT-related?
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01:17<miickee>"m-a a-i fglrx" produced a screen saying "the kernel headers for the target kernel cannot be found:
01:17<cahoot>m-a prepare first
01:18<miickee>I did that, same result
01:18<gsimmons>miickee: Are you using a backported kernel image? (2.6.29, to provide ath9k IIRC).
01:18<miickee>As per ath9k debian wiki lol
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01:20<adb>miickee: what's that ath9k ?
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01:20<gsimmons>adb: It's a driver for Atheros 802.11n PCI chipsets.
01:20<gsimmons>miickee: You are probably going to encounter Debian bug #521164 during the fglrx module build.
01:20<adb>for video card ?
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01:21<miickee>gsimmons: Ok, so how can I get around this bug
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01:29<miickee>ok, can't install linux headers
01:29<miickee>Apparently they have "unmet dependencies" that are "not installable"
01:29<miickee>So, this means I cannot install ati drivers?
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01:47<enouf>can someone please show me output of their "ls -ld /etc/cron.daily" please?
01:47<enouf>is it 655 or 755?
01:47<jm_>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 15 10:50 /etc/cron.daily//
01:47<enouf>755 - thanks jm_
01:47<jm_>655 won't do any good
01:48<enouf>yeah righto, thanks again
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01:53<enouf>jm_: et al ; ok, going a bit further; Can someone show me what chmod command they use to add back the +x bit to all the files? I get very confused using the 'ugoa' with '+/-' and '=' nomenclature -- and i know i'd "chmod -R ... /etc/cron.daily" (i do like/use the NNNN modes/perm settings, and i guess i could use find and a for loop). but, heh, i have another question about then running those scripts doing something like that (rather than alteri
01:54<enouf>i removed the x bit, to stop it from running daily, naturally - so now all, look like this; -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7482 2009-04-14 08:31 ap
01:54<enouf>er s/ap/apt/
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01:56<enouf>(ps, this is all in the sake of perhaps trying to make CUPs work (print) properly - and clear up some other possible misbehaving apps)
01:56<jm_>enouf: (your message was too long) - all the files in a dir? 'cd dir && chmod u+x *' if you want to do it for first 'x' only, for all it's just +x
01:57<enouf>jm_: very nice - thank you (do note; i'm aware of the one .placeholder file within that would not get caught by the * glob) but with one file, no issue
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01:57<enouf>(.placeholder is for older compatibility it seems or something)
01:59<jm_>yeah 'x' bit on that doesn't matter
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02:01<enouf>jm_: i recall it being set on that file, but guess what, i must have set SHELLOPT/SHLOPTS == extglob or something because /etc/cron.daily$ sudo chmod +x * did indeed add the +x to .placeholder as well - heh
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02:01<visof>can any one help me
02:02<jm_>enouf: hmm it's not set here and I never touched it
02:02<ry60003333>Same, wondering if anyone is hear.
02:02<enouf>visof: you need to tell us the issue in detail
02:02<ry60003333>here *
02:02<Cyorxamp>Hey! Puzzle for you... On the one hand I've a Debian Etch box which doesn't load GDM on startup and when starting a tightvncserver session you get nothing in it but the terminal
02:02<enouf>ry60003333: wait, i recall i had an answer for you last time you were here , and you had left by then
02:02<Cyorxamp>And on the other hand I've a Debian Lenny box that does start GDM up on startup and loads XFCE when tightvncserver starts
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02:02<Cyorxamp>Oh and they're both the XFCE edition of Debian Etch/Lenny
02:02<ry60003333>enouf: About the Checking component main thing?
02:02<visof>i need to make anew account on the soft ware
02:03<Cyorxamp>and tips on getting the 2nd to act like the 1st? i.e. terminal window or specied program only
02:03<enouf>ry60003333: i can't recall your issyse then ,,, hrm? .. more info please?
02:03<jm_>you an tell vnc server what to start for you in its config file
02:03<visof>iam new in debian
02:03<Cyorxamp>jm_, not sure it has that option you know
02:04<ry60003333>enouf: I was trying to install Lenny on an Old World PowerMac with 80 MB of RAM using BootX, and the install went fine util "Install base system", and it hung on "Checking component main on file:///cdrom" and when I tried the business CD, same thing except the path was to an FTP server.
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02:04<enouf>ry60003333: ahhha!
02:04<ry60003333>I think it was due to the lack of RAM on the machine :(
02:04<jm_>Cyorxamp: it does, see ~/.vnc/xstartup
02:04<Cyorxamp>jm_ think I've got it! you're right! ~/.vnc/xstartup
02:04<jm_>Cyorxamp: yes
02:04<visof>any one speak arabic
02:05<jm_>visof: new account - man adduser - also reasd some newbie guides
02:05<enouf>ry60003333: well, i just wanted to mention i also own a powerpc 7300/200 however, no Linux is installed - it sits in the corner BUT does have atleast 128M ram and likely 256M, plus years ago, i installed a USB 1.1 card
02:06<ry60003333>Wow nice. I picked this old one up from a college that was throwing a bunch of them out and they let me take one xD
02:06<enouf>ry60003333: it has mac os9.0.x on it :-/
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02:06<ry60003333>Yeah this one has 9.2.2 with OS9 Helper and an empty partition that was going to be debian :(
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02:07<ry60003333>Anyway, now I am here about using an old iMac as a headless server. I've disabled X from loading on startup and the iMac boots into the command line. Although after a while of no input, the display goes black, but the display is still on (as with all Debian installations). I was wondering if there is a way to make Debian completely stop giving the monitor a signal instead of just displaying black, as it produces a lot of heat and won't work well where
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02:08<jm_>ry60003333: yes, you can configure blanking via setterm command or in /etc/console-tools/config
02:08<ry60003333>So basically I want the monitor to shut off completely like Mac OS X and Windows do, instead of just displaying black :)
02:08<enouf>ry60003333: see here ;-)
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02:09<ry60003333>Thank you enouf and jm_ :D
02:09<enouf>ry60003333: well, i'm that person, and that email account is closed - so either talk to me here, or PM me
02:10<ry60003333>Yeah mine is a PowerMac 7300/180 :O
02:11<enouf>heh - mine's got a 50MHz FSB IIRC O_o
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02:11<Jimmy89>hey guys I am having problems with my samba shares streaming files
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02:12<wsj>which country you are!
02:12<enouf>ry60003333: i have some urls related to thinking about trying to get this thing just runnin linux (as a side project), but got caought up in so many other things and IRL ;-)
02:12<ry60003333>jm_ how exactly do I use set term to make the monitor shut off?
02:12<Jimmy89>I am currently trying to play video files on a vista pc, and it seems as though I cannot stream faster then 950kb/s, even though the file requires more
02:14<ry60003333>Or to make the monitor shut off instead of going blank after that set period of time :P
02:14<jm_>ry60003333: setterm -powersave powerdown
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02:14<ry60003333>Yeah enouf, I got the installer going :)
02:14<ry60003333>The problem was I think there isn't enough RAM :(
02:14<enouf>ry60003333: ahh .. nice
02:14<ry60003333>Wait I got the guide just for you.
02:14<ry60003333>Hold on :D
02:14<enouf>ry60003333: is X installed?
02:14<jm_>ry60003333: just edit the config file I mentioned and Debian will configure it for you
02:15<ry60003333>No it hangs at Install Base System
02:15<ry60003333>Thanks jm_ :D
02:15<enouf>ry60003333: i think there's some DPMS stuff to set, both for X and or just Console
02:15<enouf>oh even
02:15<ry60003333>enouf: Here it is, theres notes at the bottom for Lenny:
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02:15<jm_>ry60003333: you can add -powerdown foo to set power-off time to foo (this is in minutes)
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02:16<enouf>ry60003333: i know the Debian powerpc Installation Guide has someuseful info about booting/installing and using bootloaders, etc
02:16<enouf>wsj: moi? USA
02:17<wsj>I'm from Brazil
02:17<wsj>like watching videos in firefoz
02:18<enouf>ry60003333: fwiw, if you're in Texas, here's somewhere to get cheap non-Dense pc100/133 DIMMs -
02:18<ry60003333>Yeah I'm in Ohioz :)
02:19<enouf>ry60003333: IIRC, you want micron and *low-density* (<-- mui importante on old boxen)
02:20<enouf>IIRC, there's 4 DIMM slots in mine, must be installed in Pairs though, Interleaved stuffs
02:20<ry60003333>jm_, if I change POWERDOWN_TIME to lets say, 10 minutes, and BLANK_TIME to 5 minutes, after 15 minutes will the display shut down?
02:21<enouf>ry60003333: test using 1 and 2 minutes respectively ;-)
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02:21<enouf>er, in inverse order :-P
02:21<jm_>ry60003333: after 5 it will blank, after 15 it will turn off if you configured "powersave" method
02:21<jm_>10 not 15
02:21<enouf>ry60003333: powerdown and blank both start counting from 0
02:22<enouf>you don't add the times together
02:22<ry60003333># Powerdown time. The console will go to DPMS Off mode POWERDOWN_TIME
02:22<ry60003333># minutes _after_ blanking. (POWERDOWN_TIME + BLANK_TIME after the last input)
02:22<enouf>you got me :-p
02:22<miguel>when using TAR , how can i strip the beginning of the path away?
02:22<Jimmy89>so nobody knows what can cause slow streaming speed in samba?
02:22<miguel>during PACKING
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02:22<enouf>Jimmy89: using cifs over samba?
02:23<enouf>i mean instead of
02:23<miguel>coz tar -cvf foo.tar /blah/blah/bumm/foo
02:23<miguel>puts the whole path inside the archive
02:23<miguel>and i only want to have foo/ inside
02:23<Jimmy89>I havn't tried that yet
02:23<enouf>miguel: cd /path/to/strip prior
02:23<jm_>ry60003333: right, you should mention if you are talking about setterm command or about console-tools setup
02:23<dondelelcaro>miguel: man tar; and read about strip-components
02:23<enouf>Jimmy89: smbfs is for win9x
02:23<miguel>thank you both
02:23<ry60003333>I'm editing the config file in console-tools.
02:24<enouf>Jimmy89: CIFS is for win2k and up
02:24<jm_>in that case it will be like it says yes
02:24<ry60003333>What should I add/edit in that to change the powerdown setting?
02:24<ry60003333>So change it to "on"/
02:24<ry60003333>* ?
02:25<Jimmy89>samba supports cifs anyway dosn't it?
02:25<jm_>change it to whichever method you want to use, except "on"
02:25<enouf>Jimmy89: IINM, cifs is much more robuse
02:25<ry60003333>jm_, So BLANK_DPMS=powerdown is valid, correct?
02:26<jm_>ry60003333: yup (hopefully it works for m68k too, I only ever tried this on x86)
02:26<ry60003333>Yeah iMac is PPC, so it should work
02:26<ry60003333>I think Debian dropped support for m68k anyway.
02:27<jm_>ahh this is iWhack?
02:27<ry60003333>Yeah iMac with built in monitor; on the other computers I can just shut off the external monitor
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02:27<ry60003333>Original iMac :)
02:27<ry60003333>With more RAM
02:27<ry60003333>I'm a Mac guy :D
02:27<enouf>some were Old and some were NEw world, IINM
02:27<ry60003333>Yeah this is new world using yaboot
02:27<ry60003333>When apple drops support I goto Linux :D
02:28<enouf>heh - fwiw, simonrvn knows a bit about ppc - should he see you and care to respond
02:28<ry60003333>Yeah and thanks for the help; both of you. I'm a programmer and I know how frustrating helping can be. xD
02:29<enouf>haha .. help me get my USB printer to print a PDF!
02:29<ry60003333>Lol xD
02:29<ry60003333>K I saved the settings and rebooted it, I'll wait 15 minutes and see what happens :)
02:29<jm_>no need to reboot, just execute init script again
02:30<ry60003333>Brb real fast though, I got a PowerMac 8600 downstairs with 256 MB of RAM I'm also trying to put Lenny on.
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02:30<ry60003333>Too late I rebooted... muhahahaha
02:30<sney->the annoying thing about those old school macs is the booting
02:30<ry60003333>I second that. Now I'll really be right back. :P
02:31<sney->it totally works the rest of the waay
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02:34<ry60003333>While I'm up here grabbing the CDs; does anyone know of a PowerPC memtest?
02:35<ry60003333>Or some Linux utility that can test memory.
02:35<ry60003333>Or even an OS 9 memory tester x.x
02:36<jm_>memtester is generic enough
02:36<jrabbit>is AHT on PPC?
02:37<jrabbit>(Apple hardware tester)
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02:37<enouf>ok folks; so best idea to run all /etc/cron.daily/* scripts now is a) a for loop b) alter /etc/crontab and adjust the time ?
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02:37<jm_>and kernel has memtest option too (at least on x86)
02:38<enouf>ry60003333: doesn't the debian installer powerpc CD come with memtest ?
02:38<enouf>memtest86+ perhaps?
02:39<enouf>ugh .. i guess the 86 is for x86 :-p
02:39<jm_>enouf: probably just run-part /etc/cron.daily
02:39*enouf <--dumbass ... (not really, just sunburned and shot a bit ;0)
02:39<enouf>jm_: ahh - thanks - will look at that
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02:41<enouf>On that USB printing issue - however, only as a _xterm_ issue on the side; Is it normal that all my xterms receive error messages when the original one (the one i ran the command to print from) is like just hanging?
02:42<enouf>sarge cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/etc/cups/cupsd.conf' - exiting!
02:42<enouf>Message from syslogd@sarge at Mon Jul 6 00:59:21 2009 ...
02:42<MyWifeIs19>for some reason my system stopped mounting JFS file systems during booting. (It did before.) dmesg command does not show any error messages on JFS. Where should I look now?
02:42<enouf>appears in all the xterms, even one i su - in, and am root
02:42<enouf>oh .. hrm syslogd settings? i suppose?
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02:43<enouf>that error was caused because i wasn't root, when i ran it -- or CUPS wasn't started yes. ...
02:43<Steven_M>hi all
02:43<Steven_M>with this command play '/home/steven/sounds/Command-Codes Verified.wav' >> /dev/null play is still outputting text the terminal, even though I've redirected the output to null. Why is this?
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02:46<enouf>Steven_M: probably because you want > 2>&1>/dev/null instead - or see /etc/sysctl.conf about low-level kernel messages -- #kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7
02:46<jm_>enouf: is it run with -C switch?
02:46<jm_>MyWifeIs19: is it still in fstab?
02:46<enouf>jm_: hrm ... my print command? (it's an lpr one, IIRC)
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02:47<jm_>enouf: no, xterm
02:47<enouf>oh .. erm, i don't think so, launched via Openbox menu - i will check that - thanks
02:47<MyWifeIs19>jm_, yes, it's still listed in /etc/fstab
02:47<jm_>enouf: or another option, you have allowed it to display messages and something writes it there
02:47<jm_>MyWifeIs19: is it mounted now if you do mount -a?
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02:48<enouf>jm_: righto - it wouldn't be an issue even, IF it only displayed the message, then returned to prompt, but it doesn't :-/
02:49<MyWifeIs19>jm_, no it gives error msg telling me to look at syslog. I did that by dmesg | less but nothing useful.
02:49<jm_>enouf: perhaps you only need to press enter?
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02:51<Steven_M>enouf: I thought that was only for error messages.
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02:54<jm_>Steven_M: it depends, some apps will write stuff to stderr or even directly to tty
02:54<jm_>well behaved and non-speciall tools will work like you think though
02:54<jm_>special even
02:57<MyWifeIs19>ok problem solved. for some reason fsck.jfs was not run at all ever.... how do I fix this?
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02:58<jm_>MyWifeIs19: what is the sixth field in fstab set to for this fs?
02:59<jm_>that should be enough
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03:03<ry60003333>I don't think Lenny likes anything older than a G3.
03:03<enouf>Steven_M: hrm ... yes, it seems you are correct about sysctl in that sense, i guess .. hrm .. i forget offhand now, and i'm kind of doing 5 other things at once here - ask in #bash on freenode should you not get suitable responses from us here - though many of us might know., thy're either afk, or just doing something else in other areas :-P
03:04<MyWifeIs19>actually I don't know if fsck.jfs was run or not. I just did the fsck.jfs /dev/hda3; mount -a and it worked. does fsck leave a log message somewhere?
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03:04<enouf>jm_: right, Enter, i'll try that instead of ^C (which is just my natural instinct)
03:05<ry60003333>I'm trying to install on a PowerMac 8600 with 256MB of RAM, and its still stuck on "Checking component main on file:///cdrom", and the memory is slowly eaten away at :P
03:05<enouf>jm_: i suppose it's not so much an issue, so long as those processes have completed and it's not hogging CPU, i'd follow up on it more closely, but i have all these other issues i'm dealing with atm ... thank you for the replies
03:05<jm_>MyWifeIs19: depends, if it fails it's in /var/log/fsck/checkfs, but it's probably long overwritten
03:06<enouf>MyWifeIs19: or /checkrootfs and such?
03:06<jm_>enouf: ahh I thought you mean this happens in all terminals, but I assume it's just one then?
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03:07<enouf>jm_: no, say i have 4 open, i run command in xterm1 and (while xterm1 is hanging - seeming doing nothing) the _other_ message(s) from syslogd appear on xterms 2,3,4
03:07<enouf>jm_: and IINM, even after i ^C the command in xterm1, the others still are not _back to prompt_
03:08<jm_>enouf: ok, yeah then it would be ^c - which command is hanging?
03:08<enouf>jm_: they are not nested xterms either
03:08<enouf>jm_: let me try if i can recall exactly ...
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03:13<enouf>jm_: son of a b**ch i cannot reproduce it atm .. wait - let me see if it was acroread related ..
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03:17<enouf>jm_: ok, i give up on that for now ;-) (i can)
03:17<enouf>jm_: ok, i give up on that for now ;-) (i can't reproduce it atm)
03:21<enouf>heh, on a related note; how come i get this message when i run it as root user even? # lpr -P HP_Deskjet_6500_USB_1 /home/stompthebozo/TUB-SURROUND.pdf
03:21<enouf>lpr: Not allowed to print.
03:21<enouf>cupsd is running
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03:22<enouf>FWIW, here's pstree -lunap
03:23<enouf>i should i strace this root user issue?
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03:23<craigevil>trying to print a pdf from acroread?
03:23<enouf>crap .. i think there's some older DBUS issues, even though the main 1 is running
03:23<cwhuang>hi, how to change umask for commands executed by ssh?
03:24<enouf>craigevil: both acroread, and from xpdf, and both also tried from xterm command
03:24<jm_>enouf: hmm looks as if the printer is restricted to certain users or somesuch
03:25<enouf>craigevil: i'm using latest dmm sid acroread, and now, not only does the Licensing Crap thing appear evertime i open the app, but also Edit | Preferences always seems to think i already_have_ a Prefences dialog open and asks me to Close that one
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03:26<craigevil>hm i rarely use acroread and apparently mine is messed up it wont even open the preferences
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03:27<enouf>jm_: i know - screwy - last night i was getting errors from xterm since i copied and pasted the full "lpr ..." command from the acroread print dialog - but that issue seemd to be that the lp pkg doesn't uiderstand -o options, so it was suggested i install cups-bsd/cupsys-bsd and use that instead, so since it conflicts with lpr pkg, lpr was removed
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03:27<enouf>craigevil: right - does a dialog error box appear with text?
03:27<enouf>craigevil: there
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03:28<enouf>craigevil: there's been MANY Debian DSA-XXX issues, closed in very recent version in sid
03:28<enouf>apt-listchanges ftw
03:30<Co_X>dear all... before i confuse on searching, how to switch desktop between KDE,Gnome,X and more other than from login menu? because i made my debian autologin,then the menus did not show up, thank's for your help
03:30<Co_X>the eazy way to switch
03:30<jm_>cwhuang: you can use ~/.ssh/rc for example
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03:31<enouf>jm_: fwiw, older files(?) in /etc/cups/ are owned via root:lpr ... also dpkg-reconfigure cups i selected allow RAW (and also tried NO), and in next screen allowed ALL protocols (IPP, parallel, serial, usb, etc etc) .. and also tried ONLY USB - i've messed with HPLIP utils, and installed foomatic/gutenprint, used hp-makeuri, hp-setup etc etc ... all to no avail
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03:32<enouf>jm_: sorry, user/group is "root:lp" for some files
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03:33<enouf>shold i even be trying to use lp{r,q} for printing to a locally attached (and i mean direct, not over the LAN) USB Deskjet 6540 printer?
03:34<enouf>it seems the PPD file for that exact make/model is only in Lenny? though the 6500..ppd file does seem to list the 6540 model now .. but .. even that is not in the hplip-ppd pkg (or one of those pkgs)
03:34<jm_>enouf: hmm I have never seen cups do this in debian stable, did you try purging all packages too? if you have cups-bsd installed then lpr is fine, but native command is lp
03:35<ry60003333>Quick question; if you have etch, how do you update to lenny?
03:35<ry60003333>Software update?
03:35<enouf>jm_: ok, point taken - and yes, i'm purging many other things that needed it too prior, then i'll try reinstalling all the cups related stuffs - thanks
03:35<svein_>judd pciid 8086:10de
03:35<judd>svein_: [8086:10de] is '82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'e1000e' in sid. See also
03:35<craigevil>enouf: Device URI: usb://HP/Deskjet%20F4200%20series?serial=CN92G5P0QB05BR prints a pdf just fine using evince in sid
03:36<jm_>ry60003333: by reading release notes for lenny
03:36<enouf>jm_: like - when running hpsetup (in non-interactve mode - GUI (whichi didn't realize)) it would ask/error me to try --qt3 ! in red letters -- heh
03:36<ry60003333>Because what I might do is install etch on these old Macs then update if possible.
03:36<jm_>enouf: as an option you might want to try installing cups-pdf and check if that works, otherwise it might be some /dev/foo issue for USB device files
03:37<enouf>jm_: aye - thanks for the ideas ...
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03:38<craigevil>enouf: acroread prints as well i install the -plugins and ghostscript-cups and now it works just fine
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03:39<craigevil>i set up the printer using localhost:631
03:40<craigevil>before installing ghostscript-cups evince wouldnt print a pdf so that might have been the magic package
03:41<jm_>hopefully some day there will be useful documentation for cups available
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03:46<cwhuang>jm_: I tried to add umask to /etc/ssh/sshrc, but doesn't work
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03:48<cwhuang>jm_: any idea?
03:49<cwhuang>jm_: not try ~/.ssh/rc, I hope to change global setting
03:52<jm_>cwhuang: ahh OK, this won't help, it executes it before the shell as a separate process
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03:54<jm_>cwhuang: you can do it via shell startup files then
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04:00<svein_>is it away to install the e1000e in lenny?
04:00<svein_>a way*
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04:07<jm_>svein: there are newer kernels available for lenny
04:09<Steven_M>enouf: ok :)
04:09<jm_>judd: kernels
04:09<judd>jm_: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.30-trunk-686 (2.6.30-1~experimental.1~snapshot.13813); sid: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24)
04:10<jm_>svein: for example
04:10<enouf>jm_: craigevil ok, with installed, i know open acroread from an xterm, select file to opne | print and get this
04:10<enouf>(acroread-en:7248): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: cannot connect to the session bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-IeG1PvlaKn: Connection refused
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04:10<enouf>erm with " ghostscript-cups cups-pdf" installed
04:11<enouf>sounds like a friggin DBUS error!
04:11<jm_>heh I think I saw some crap like that too and now I have "use-session-dbus" in /etc/X11/Xsession.options
04:12<craigevil>ok opened acroread in lxterminal opened a file and printed just fine no weird messages
04:12<enouf>jm_: i've had many dbus issues over time, with installing removing upgrading DEs then finally purging them and any DMs ...
04:12<craigevil>other than i n=now know i am out of black ink
04:12<enouf>lshal wasn't even working at one point .. but my one pstree/ps DBUS entry did fix the hal issue
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04:13<enouf>craigevil: and .. i still get prompted fpr tjhe Licensing crap each time i open acroread, and the Edit | Preferences is still very borken
04:14<craigevil>using the newest dmm package?
04:15<enouf>jm_: the lpr copmmand taken from the acroread print dialog is; lpr -P HP_Deskjet_6500_USB_1 -o OptionDuplex=False -o PageSize=Letter -o PageRegion=Letter -o Duplex=None -o InputSlot=Auto -o ColorModel=RGB -o MediaType=Automatic -o OutputMode=Auto -o hpInkSet=Standard
04:15<enouf>craigevil: yes, installed yesterday
04:15<enouf>craigevil: sid/unstabe
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04:16<craigevil>weird same package here, on lxde works fine, i had kde4 and got rid of that monster
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04:16<jm_>enouf: it doesn't give you the choice of simply selecting the printer from the list?
04:17<enouf>jm_: i have to click Properties - and click one of those listed options shown ,m like ColorMode - then the lpr... command box is filled in
04:17<enouf>jm_: anyway - ireally think now it's a DBUS issue
04:17<enouf>jm_: the Status for my Printer says, Not ready :-/
04:18<enouf>(i got the same dbus GVFS error again too now)
04:18<craigevil>gvfs is evil
04:18<enouf>let me try xpdf
04:19<jm_>enouf: yeah try starting dbus together with your session, I think this is exactly why I enabled dbus, but I forgot the exact reason -- for me it lists CUPS printers and I just pick one, command is only shown if I use "Custom ..."
04:20<cwhuang>jm_: sorry, I don't understand what you mean exactly
04:20<enouf>jm_: ahh .. i recall seeing Custom
04:20<jm_>cwhuang: shell startup files, like .bashrc or .bash_profile, except I don't know which bash one would do the job
04:21<cwhuang>jm_: what I'm trying to do is git-push via ssh. I hope the file it pushed is group writable
04:21<enouf>why on earth doesn't xpdf not do tab-completion, nor seem to allow to show ONLY .pdf docs .. my /home/username/ is HUGE
04:21<jm_>cwhuang: as in ssh foo git-push or what?
04:21<jm_>enouf: you mean bash for xpdf?
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04:22<enouf>the Print dialog in xpdf now shows; "Print with Command" and "lpr" is listed, should i try altering that to just "lp" ?
04:22<enouf>jm_: when i do "xpdf fil<TAB><TAB>" that works fine ;0
04:22<enouf>(from an xterm)
04:23<jm_>I doubt changing to lp will fix it - if you have cups-bsd installed both commands should work
04:23<enouf>i do
04:23<cwhuang>jm_: ya, I've set git remote to be ssh protocol, so git push will just go via ssh
04:23<jm_>cwhuang: but in that case I think git will just preserve file modes
04:24<enouf>BTW, xpdf actually displays this 1 page PDF properly - acroread blasts the whole background with the color Blue that should be only used in certain parts, and then changes everything that should be Blue into Black .. ugh
04:24<cwhuang>jm_: I have no problem in this process, except the object files it generated is not group writable
04:24<ry60003333>Huh; the etch installer works. It flew past the "Checking component main" thing and went on installing.
04:25<enouf>jm_: ok, i clicked Print within xpdf and it's just hanging (one good thing, those OTHER xterms aren't showing that much earlier message i showed you and complained about)
04:25<jm_>cwhuang: but object files don't have anything to do with git, do they?
04:26<jm_>enouf: maybe check the lp* command it started and possibly its stacktrace
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04:26*enouf straces, then KILLS dbus, then i friggin have to restart my whole entire openbox session!!!
04:26*enouf runs away screaming and crying
04:26<enouf>jm_: righto - thank you - you too craigevil
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04:29<enouf>i don't mean to overwhelm you guys, but just look at this; just in case you see something inapropos that jumps out at you
04:31<enouf>this is likely more re;levant .. sigh
04:31<enouf>i don't have any PDFs open in IW/FF, not for sometime now .. but i'm going to kill all my IW tabs, because, Session-Restore seems to be working
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04:32<enouf>oh .. and when i launch IW, i get an error .. also about ORbit and possible NFS and DBUS!
04:32<enouf>(no NFS going on here)
04:34<craigevil>enouf: looks nothing like your lsof | grep firefox
04:34<enouf>craigevil: that jumps out at you
04:34<enouf>wrong URL?
04:35<enouf>craigevil: 0 < enouf> this is likely more re;levant
04:35<enouf>that's why i altered the perl script that uploads to ALSO show the actuall command that was run
04:35<enouf>(at the very top; )
04:36<craigevil> thats the second command you used for me
04:38<enouf>craigevil: i mentioned; for "lsof | grep firefox" and for "lsof | egrep 'cups|bsd|lpr'" .. i'm confused ..
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04:41<enouf> craigevil sorry - are you showing me YOUR output, so i might compare to mine?
04:41*enouf is very confused
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04:42<craigevil>yeah, you have a few things like /etc/cups that dont show up in mine,
04:43<enouf>craigevil: well, i THINK that one is there, because i allowed that username to print, from within http://localhost:631/admin and such
04:44<enouf>craigevil: but thanks - many many things to followup on now - quite frustrating, but i have to get it done, will take some time to do it all
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04:47*enouf doesn't get it - i can't evne strace the sucker'
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04:53<enouf>fwiw - here's that missing PPD HPO file that someone reported as a bug .. i think i found an old copy of the Etch version, on a preEtch installation, gunzipped and cp'd it over into where it's supposed tobe -though i don;t think i;ve setup CUPs yet to use that PPD file - or i did, and it makes no diff
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04:55<nano-_>Are there any debian mirror that redirects traffic to the closest mirror?
04:55<nano-_>(that is suitable for a worldwide headless install)
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05:00<enouf>ok guys - gonna restart atleast the entire openbox session now, so see ya soon (yes irssi is running in an xterm here) so, hopefully, kwin and crap won't stop me from startx or whatever happened last time that made me kill DBUS
05:00<enouf>well jm_ i have; 1# grep -v '#' Xsession.options | xargs
05:00<enouf>allow-failsafe allow-user-resources allow-user-xsession use-ssh-agent use-session-dbus
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05:01<enouf>i'll comment it out, if i have issues returning, to try
05:01<jm_>enouf: so it should start it then
05:03<enouf>bye for now, sorry for the long wind ... jm_ Yes, it did, but i couldn't get openbox, not startx up - so i kept killing things till it would work (also toyed with update-alternatives, and /default-display-manager ,,, etc)
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05:03<jm_>should just resort to ~/.xsession if that doesn't work
05:04<jm_>unless it's some bug in new X server session scripts
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05:09<tuxcrafter>hi all i am testing network-manager on xfce4-panel
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05:20<omid8bimo>hey guys, any time table fot iceweasel 3.5? nothing mentioned on pts
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05:27<omid8bimo>locklace: awesome dude
05:27<omid8bimo>locklace: thanks
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05:34<esb>what kernel are default in debian 5 ?
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05:34<omid8bimo>esb: 2.6.26
05:34<locklace>judd kernel
05:34<judd>locklace: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.30-trunk-686 (2.6.30-1~experimental.1~snapshot.13813); sid: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24)
05:35<esb>omid8bimo: hm, the old ubuntu if I remember correctly
05:35<omid8bimo>esb: i think so
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05:35<omid8bimo>esb: but i got 2.6.29 on my lenny and works pretty good
05:36<esb>omid8bimo: Well.. if I update to 2.6.30 I'll have a alot of updating issues, right ?
05:36<omid8bimo>esb: for sure
05:36<omid8bimo>esb: i think no point on 2.6.30 for now beside thos news filesystems
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05:36<joel>hi.. i am using debian lenny, when i install xen packages and reboot using Xen's kernel it hangs and says: "Xen is relinquishing VGA console", what could i do?
05:37<omid8bimo>*those new ..
05:37<esb>omid8bimo: I'm quite found of the ext4 filesystem.
05:37<locklace>esb: no
05:37<omid8bimo>esb: then u should give it a try
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05:39<tuxcrafter>where can i find this stuff in debian
05:39<esb>omid8bimo: I'll do that.. Any support for ext4 in 2.6.29 ? (sry, abit outdated at the moment)..
05:40<locklace>esb: don't use ext4 with a kernel version < .30
05:41<locklace>esb: here's the lenny backport kernel:§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports
05:41<omid8bimo>esb: for ext4 just go to 30
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05:41<omid8bimo>esb: even btrfs is limited under 29
05:42<esb>locklace: and omid8bimo .. Thank you.. alwasy a pleasure asking around here :)
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05:42<omid8bimo>esb: :)
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06:54<miickee>I don't think the ati drivers are gonna install on my computer, I've tried the ati way and the debian wiki way and it ends up the same lol.
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06:55<jm_>miickee: bpo has linux-headers packages too
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06:55<jm_>no idea if you can still find .29 ones as current version is .30
06:56<miickee>I tried installing the linux-headers for my kernel, then it said it depended on another one, which I then tried to install but won't let me
06:56<jm_>no-one can help you if you report "i get some error" or "something doesn't work for me"
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07:01<miickee>ok, I tried installing linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo.2-686~bpo50+1_i386.deb, and depends on linux-kbuild-2.6.29
07:01<miickee>and when trying to install the latter, it says "No candidate version found for linux-kbuild-2.6.29"
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07:05<jm_>right, which seems to be missing on the bpo web page
07:05<gsimmons>miickee: There's no linux-kbuild-2.6.29 in bpo. Compiling fglrx-source 1:8-12-4 with a 2.6.30 backported kernel image will also fail due to Debian bug #521164 and others.
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07:06<jm_>probably best to build your own 2.6.29 kernel
07:06<miickee>gsimmons: Ok, that makes sense. What can I do, "downgrade" my kernel?
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07:06<miickee>jm_: I'm not sure what building my own kernel entails.
07:07<jm_>miickee: well you need kernel sources+config, should be relatively simple with make-kpkg and debian sources
07:07<RichiH>what is wrong here..? if i restart ntp, it syncs and then loses sync some minutes later
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07:08<miickee>jm_: Which kernel version comes before 2.6.29-bpo.2-686?
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07:08<jm_>miickee: I have no idea, maybe bpo.1 - why do you ask?
07:09<gsimmons>miickee: You may want to consider sticking with 2.6.26 for fglrx, and provide your system with the required ath9k driver via compat-wireless-old instead. It would be considerably easier than backporting fglrx-source from unstable.
07:09<miickee>Ok, so there is a way to go from my kernel now back to 2.6.26?
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07:09<jm_>you probably have it installed still
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07:10<miickee>gsimmons: Sticking with 2.6.26 for fglrx, does that involve just installing those packages for that specific kernel version, or actually going back to that kernel version?
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07:16<gsimmons>miickee: The latter. It would at least allow you to compile the fglrx (1:8-12-4) kernel module, which effectively requires kernel 2.6.26. A potential issue is with PCI-ID 168C:002B not being supported by ath9k in compat-wireless-old.
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07:17<miickee>I think I'll give it a try, how would I go about going back to 2.6.26?
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07:20<gsimmons>miickee: I'd first check that you don't have 168C:002B listed in your "lspci -nn" output.
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07:21<miickee>gsimmons: Is that bad?
07:22<miickee>And no it's not in my lspci -nn output
07:22<lavcina>Hello folks! I have Problems connecting to the Internet.
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07:22<locklace>lavcina: hate to break it to you, but this is the internet
07:23<lavcina>currently I use ubuntu, but I want to use debian
07:23<lavcina>my machine just does not see eth01
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07:25<locklace>lavcina: paste output of "lspci -knn" and "ifconfig -a" from debian
07:25<locklace>!tell lavcina about paste
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07:29<lavcina>locklace how to paste all that on irc ?
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07:29<dpkg>paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site.
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07:44<enouf>hey jm_ - i got it! ... pheww... what a friggin mess :-P (and i fixed startx and openbox and recovered from a kernel lock/FS errors (sysrq'd it) .. and way way too much more to list - i couldt try to replay what i did, but i'd go batty trying to explain it all). Anyways
07:44<enouf>xpdf works now
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07:44<jm_>enouf: was printing issue dbus related?
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07:45<enouf>jm_: perhaps - maybe it was one - NOW thyough, i see 3 dbus entries in pstree/ps output instead of just 1
07:46<jm_>enouf: same here, I always considered it normal
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07:47<enouf>jm_: lately though, the issue was; lpr: error - scheduler not responding!
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07:48<enouf>i couldn't shake that sucker off ... /etc/init.d/lpd start was not doing anything at all .. no response, but i guess it's b/c it's not supposed to with cups*bsd installed, and comes from the lpr pkg, IINM
07:48<jm_>yeah it's /etc/init.d/cups
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07:51<enouf>so, i decided to stop trying to configure CUPS from within IW, and use my regular; links2 -g to go to localhost:631 .. (Prior, i dpkg-reconfigured all those) then deleted all other added printers - except the virtual cups-pdf, which i then set as default -- So i then set up _another_ brand new printer (my USB + Printer info from dmesg) and this time, (remember i copied over the PPD file)?
07:51<enouf>it was in the DropDown box this time, so i selected it!
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07:52<jm_>ahh I use lpadmin if I need to add a printer with custom PPD file
07:52<enouf>jm_: anyways - seems yes, the dbus entries;
07:52<enouf> |-dbus-launch,2784,stompthebozo --exit-with-session x-session-manager
07:52<enouf>and |-dbus-daemon,2785,stompthebozo --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
07:52<jm_>or simply add it with gui and then change ppd manually
07:52<enouf>were missing last session
07:52<jm_>enouf: yup + 1 started at boot for me
07:53<enouf> |-dbus-daemon,2292,messagebus --system <= Boot one
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07:54<enouf>jm_: see .. the lp/lpr/lpq/lpadmin stuff bothers me ... i had started looking through /etc/cups/cups.conf (?) and i was like WTF?, Do i have to add my $USER to the lpadmin group?
07:54<enouf>/etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf:Grp lpadmin
07:54<jm_>enouf: for printing it's not needed
07:54<enouf>there- that entry
07:56<enouf>jm_: great - anyways, i feel like i know atleast a very little bit about this printing stuff now
07:56<jm_>enouf: that's something different, it's internal cups-pdf stuff
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07:59<enouf>jm_: Oh, i see - rightm, it's virtualized .. anyways - also, i had upgraded .. now i can't even recall their names ...
08:00<enouf>i ran autoclean though - which removed like 1130 pkgs? .. but i had already done that not long ago .. oddd
08:00<enouf>apt-get autoclean (that is)
08:01<enouf>Ok, onwards ... wth is with this "consolekit" pkg?
08:01<enouf>~$ pstree | grep console-kit | wc -l
08:01<enouf>(the command is actually pstree -lunap - but aliased for myself)
08:02<jm_>hmm I don't have that
08:02<enouf>i cannot physically view what i need to using ps/pstree with ALL those lines of that crap - it's nuts
08:02<enouf>check it
08:03<jm_>luckily by the looks of it
08:03<enouf>whoa .. that sucked .. one sec
08:04<enouf>now you can see them all
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08:07<enouf>jm_: (and craigevil) i just want to thank you for the continued support - just enough - for me to eventually work it out - i had struggled a few hours each night for the last few nights trying to get this *^$#(%$*$)($%)$ to work ;-)
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08:08<enouf>jm_: Also, i don't even feel like opening iceweasel now - nor testing acroread crap ...
08:08<miickee>I went to my 2.6.26-1-686 image in grub, could not install wireless interface for the life of me
08:08<miickee>So I really do need a 2.6.29 or later kernel
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08:08<enouf>perhaps miickee
08:09<enouf>miickee: why grub for wireless?
08:09<gsimmons>miickee: Did you install compat-wireless-old?
08:09<enouf>oh, you mean you booted into _that_ .26 kerenl?
08:09<miickee>enouf: yep
08:09<miickee>gsimmons: No, I didn't install that, What does that do?
08:10<enouf>miickee: i was going to say; i don't think you can really configure your wifi too well from grub :-P
08:10<gsimmons>miickee: It provides the ath9k driver within your 2.6.26 kernel, as we previously discussed.
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08:10<miickee>Ok, back I go lol.
08:10*enouf waves
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08:13<miickee>gsimmons: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "compat-wireless-old"
08:14<gsimmons>miickee: It's not a Debian package, see .
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08:14<enouf>Oh .. does anyone know how to go about finding out / altering my Master Password in Iceweael? Forthe life of me, i cannot recall it - and i already tried most everyone i can think it might be
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08:15<enouf>when i installed it, i was on a kde (all DE) purge rage ,,,
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08:21<jm_>enouf: it's not easily recoverable, try firemaster
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08:26<miickee>gsimmons: Once this compat-wireless-old package installs, what else is needed?
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08:27<gsimmons>miickee: Aside from your fglrx requirement, there's nothing additional required.
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08:35<miickee>gsimmons: I can't help but notice it's mentioning "iwlwifi", isn't that for another chipset, not atheros?
08:37<gsimmons>miickee: You'll need to be more specific. Are you referring to the build process?
08:37<enouf>jm_: unbelievable, even opening the PDF live from within IW, using acroread - it PRINTS! ;-P
08:37<miickee>Well yeah, it's taking forever to "make"
08:37<miickee>But was just worried when I saw iwlwifi
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08:41<gsimmons>miickee: You'll just have to be patient. ath9k will (eventually) be built.
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08:58<ottoshmidt>how can I view my Ip addresses in terminal?
08:58<ottoshmidt>ifconfig doen't seem to be valid
08:59<Broomfondle>you have to be root
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08:59<Vroomfondle>damned spelling-mstake.
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08:59<jm_>or simply run /sbin/ifconfig as user
08:59<Vroomfondle>well, yeah, or that
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09:00<ottoshmidt>I needed to be root yep
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09:06<nelf>Is there a way of finding out the file descriptor soft limit for a running process?
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09:07<nelf>ulimit -n gives me the limit for the current user
09:07<[machine]>nelf: sudo cat /proc/<pid>/limits
09:07<jm_>nelf: sure via /proc or getrlimit
09:09<nelf>[machine]: Doesn't exist
09:09<nelf>I'm on 2.6.18 (for my sins)
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09:13<Bunnyh>It says on the crontab(5) man page, that "ranges or lists of names are not allowed" when using names for months or weekdays, but I have specified on one line the weekday field as "Mon,Thu" and it works fine.
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09:15<miickee>gsimmons: you there?
09:15<Bunnyh>Will my crontab become nonworking someday, or will the man page be updated?
09:15<gsimmons>miickee: No.
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09:16<miickee>Ok, it's finished makind and make-installing
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09:16<miickee>And it says at the end "Now run make unload and then the wireless module you need. if unsure, run make load"
09:16<miickee>It mandatory to run "make unload"
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09:17<gsimmons>miickee: So make unload, then modprobe ath9k.
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09:17<miickee>What does make unload do?
09:17<Guest188>is there any body here
09:18<Guest188>im new here
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09:18<Guest188>i wanna know many thing
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09:18<gsimmons>miickee: Refer to the Makefile.
09:18<Guest188>if you can help me ill be glad
09:19<Guest188>i wanna crack some site but i don't know how it not like wondows
09:19<Guest188>or just some comps
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09:21<Guest188>how can i do
09:21<Guest188>or what i can use
09:21<Guest188>please help
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09:31<miickee>gsimmons: finished installing ati drivers, it works, however I see no difference
09:31<miickee>Sorta anticlimatic lol
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09:34<Tuplad>how can I find out location of all plugged in but unmounted devices ? (like /dev/xxx)
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09:37<LeoLolo>My squid is not blocking anything, look at my conf
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09:38<miickee>gsimmons: Yeah, see no difference
09:38<miickee>In graphic performance
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09:44<gsimmons>LeoLolo: You are allowing access for all clients in lines 4 and 5 of your configuration.
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09:49<miickee>gsimmons: How can I confirm my drivers are indeed installed, seeing as I don't see any improvement in graphic performance?
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09:59<gsimmons>miickee: You can examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log to determine this. The output of fglrxinfo should not return a vendor string containing "Mesa".
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10:00<miickee>gsimmons: And what if it does return Mesa?
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10:01<gsimmons>miickee: Then you probably didn't configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf to reference fglrx as your display driver.
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10:01<Tenebrus>Help needed. I'm trying to make the small OS for PC terminal using Debian. Installed Debian base in expert mode installation, then installed Xorg
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10:02<Tenebrus>Now how can i disable auth console prompt during boot?
10:02<miickee>Debian wiki said to enable 3d acceleration, change identifier to "ATI 3D" and driver to "ati" and then screen identifier to "ATI 3D". Note that even when it was without mesa, the performance was the same
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10:03<Tenebrus>I need it to login automatically, start X and rdesktop
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10:04<gsimmons>miickee: Wrong page. You want (WRT fglrx), not .
10:05<miickee>Yeah I used the first page, then amended the xorg.conf file to the other page after I realised there was no difference
10:05<miickee>And yeah, the same after I followed the second page
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10:06<gsimmons>miickee: Pastebin your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
10:06<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste.
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10:09<gsimmons>miickee: So you didn't reference fglrx as your display driver. Reference fglrx as your display driver. Refer to the xorg.conf example at .
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10:10<miickee>I did, and I noticed no improvement of performance. I'll revert back and report and what I see
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10:16<kristianpaul>there is a way of ftpsync without use ssh keys?
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10:20<sarc_3>Can someone help me with installation of Broadcom NetExtreme II VCM 5716 NIC?
10:21<sarc_3>I am using a net install CD that does not have the driver for this card listed during the install screens
10:21<kop>kristianpaul : I don' know ftpsync, but if it uses ssh you can probably type a password every time you want to use it instead of setting up keys.
10:21<sarc_3>I am using Debian 5.0.2
10:21<kristianpaul>kop: i'm not DD
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10:22<kristianpaul>kop: i just want to make a local web mirror of for my university
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10:22<sarc_3>I downloaded the driver from the Broadcom website, but when I let the installation search my external media for the driver it says that it cannot find it
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10:23<adb>woops , sorry
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10:24<miickee>gsimmons: No difference :(
10:24<kop>sarc_3 : See if there are instructions in the debian installation manual?
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10:24<gsimmons>miickee: Does fglrxinfo report a different vendor string?
10:24<miickee>ATI Technologies
10:25<miickee>Renderer string: ATI mobility Radeon HD 3400 series (sounds correct)
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10:25<gsimmons>miickee: Well, it's installed.
10:25<gsimmons>judd: pciid 14e4:163b
10:25<judd>gsimmons: [14e4:163b] is 'NetXtreme II BCM5716 Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'bnx2' in sid. See also
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10:26<gsimmons>sarc_3: Try using a backported d-i image for support of your network device; /msg dpkg kmuto
10:26<miickee>gsimmons: Thanks for the help mate,
10:27<jthomas_sb_>I booted into 2.6.30 this morning (Sid) and I have no audio, any suggestions?
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10:28<locklace>jthomas_sb_: cat /proc/asound/cards
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10:28<jthomas_sb_>0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel \\ HDA Intel at 0xefebc000 irq 16 \\ 1 [Camera ]: USB-Audio - USB Camera \\ OmniVision Technologies, Inc. USB Camera at usb-0000:00:1d.2-2, full speed
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10:29<sarc_3>so dont do a net install?
10:30<locklace>jthomas_sb_: time to play with alsamixer and speaker-test then
10:31<jthomas_sb_>i'll look at that then locklace, thanks. do i maybe need to now install linux-firmware or some such non-free package perhaps? I looked for that but couldnt find what i think i may need
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10:31<gsimmons>sarc_3: You'll need at least a 2.6.29 kernel for support of the BCM5716 chipset. See for modified netinst images.
10:32<locklace>jthomas_sb_: no, not afaik
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10:33<jthomas_sb_>locklace my alsamixer is up and not muted; my speaker-test is giving me nothing; my KDE4 mixer is up and not muted and sees the hardware fine. In my KDE Mixer i can turn one channel up ('Speaker') and get fuzz but not real audio
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10:35<locklace>jthomas_sb_: my recommendation, get out of x and play with alsamixer and 'speaker-test -t wav' until it works
10:35<jthomas_sb_>ok i'll have to look into that later today, thanks locklace
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10:39<kop>kristianpaul : You only need a ssh key if you're push mirroring.
10:39<kristianpaul>kop: ok
10:40<sarc_3>what is the kernel version for the latest netinst CD for Debian AMD64?
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10:41<bja>judd: kernels
10:41<judd>bja: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.30-trunk-686 (2.6.30-1~experimental.1~snapshot.13813); sid: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24)
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10:41<kop>sarc_3 : Just get the latest installer from kmuto and use that.
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10:50<jthomas_sb_>locklace i tried at CLI after a reboot; back in KDE4 now. Phonon / KDE4 mixer still sees the hardware, but after my reboot speaker-test gives errors, " ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave \\ Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory " :(
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10:52<tarzeau>i have debian on my laptop and x doesn't work anymore!
10:52<locklace>jthomas_sb_: are you running it as root
10:53<jthomas_sb_>as sudo, does that count? nothing either way (sudo or regular user)
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10:53<locklace>i'd just like to say for the record that programmers whose code emits "no such file or directory" errors without including the name of the fucking file should have their head ripped off and shoved summarily up their backside
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10:55<jthomas_sb_>lol... i'd say, removing the option to reconfigure alsa deserves a similar fate
10:55<locklace>jthomas_sb_: you can try running it through strace to see what the file is
10:56<locklace>!slap tarzeau
10:56*dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across tarzeau's face
10:56<locklace>!tell tarzeau about doesn't work
10:57<jthomas_sb_>locklace " open("/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"
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10:57<jthomas_sb_>ls /dev/snd/ : controlC0 controlC1 hwC1D0 pcmC0D0c pcmC1D0c pcmC1D0p seq timer
10:59<locklace>jthomas_sb_: it does look like that device file should be there
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11:00<locklace>jthomas_sb_: maybe check your sound modules with lsmod and try removing/adding/readding some
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11:00<locklace>jthomas_sb_: beyond that, maybe some alsa driver problem, time to start looking for and/or filing bugs
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11:01<jthomas_sb_>thanks again
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11:08<sarc_3>is dd the best way to restore this kmuto image to my thumbdrive?
11:08<stuckey>What's the program for importing pictures from a digital camera?
11:11<cahoot>there are a few to choose from
11:11<cahoot>using gnome?
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11:13<sarc_3>what is the best way to restore this net install thumb drive image? it is a .img file. Image was made from a 512KB thumb drive
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11:24<duairc>Does anybody have xv working with the ati/radeon driver?
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11:25<sarc_3>anyone know the best way to get .img file restored to a thumb drive?
11:26<duairc>sarc_3: dd if=/path/to/img of=/dev/thumbdrive ?
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11:28<sarc_3>i tried that, says it cant find disk when i boot
11:29<sarc_3>is that how you are supposed to restore .img files? the file is named boot.img.gz
11:29<vvas>well, you'd have to gunzip it too
11:29<adb>sarc_3: /msg dpkg usb install
11:30<vvas>so: zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX
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11:30<vvas>(note, *not* /dev/sdXX)
11:30<jackyf>duairc: o/
11:31<chealer>sarc_3: what do you mean by restoring an image?
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11:33<sarc_3>im trying to get (the top image) loaded onto my pc
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11:40<sarc_3>are the days of the .iso dead?
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11:41<valdyn>sarc_3: why would iso be dead?
11:42<sarc_3>i was joking...
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11:43<sarc_3>muto posted the netinstall as thumb image rather than CD
11:43<valdyn>sarc_3: no he didnt
11:43<valdyn>sarc_3: he offers both
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11:44<valdyn>sarc_3: "download from JP or FR (usually faster)" <- click FR or JP for an iso
11:44<ml|>the other is for usb install
11:45<sarc_3>i didnt click those
11:46<ml|>sarc_3: < adb> sarc_3: /msg dpkg usb install
11:47<sarc_3>what does that do?
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11:51<sarc_3>what do i need to install usb for?
11:51<bja>dpkg: slap sarc_3
11:51*dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across sarc_3's face
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11:54<ml|>sarc_3: for you to see why that usb install on kmuto is there for, plus it seemed that is what you where trying to do
11:55<sarc_3>my problem was writing the image to the thumb drive
11:55<sarc_3>sarc_3 <- confused
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11:56<ml|>did you msg dpkg ?
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11:58<sarc_3>command not found
11:58<ml|>no here in this channel
11:58<bja>dpkg: slap sarc_3
11:58*dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across sarc_3's face
11:59<sarc_3>had no idea what you guys were talking about
11:59<sarc_3>now i do
11:59<ml|>good :)
12:00<ml|>sarc_3: new to irc?
12:00<sarc_3>yes, very
12:00<sarc_3>im sure no one has noticed
12:00<bja>dpkg: congratulate sarc_3
12:00<dpkg>Huzzah sarc_3, you did it!
12:00<ml|>dpkg: tell sarc_3 abour irc
12:01<ml|>dpkg: tell sarc_3 abour irc tutorial
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12:01<ml|>dpkg: tell sarc_3 abour selftell
12:01<ml|>dpkg: tell sarc_3 about irc
12:01<ml|>dpkg: tell sarc_3 about irc tutorial
12:01<ml|>dpkg: tell sarc_3 about selftell
12:01<ml|>heh ;(
12:02<bja>ml|: Did you miss any?
12:02<ml|>bja: :P
12:03<ml|>i made a typo ya know
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12:04<ml|>dpkg: tell sarc_3 about dpkgbot
12:04<bja>ml|: yea i saw it talking abour something nice
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12:04<ml|>bja: haha, and i did miss one
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12:05<ml|>sarc_3: new to linux?
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12:06<ml|> /msg dpkg on 'reference' 'grounding' 'unix lessons' if you want to read/learn a bit
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12:09<sarc_3>love the lessons
12:09<sarc_3>this should save us all some time
12:11<sarc_3>the last attempt i made at restoring the img to my thumb drive must have worked because it relabeled the drive as Debian Inst
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12:12<ml|>!win sarc_3
12:12<dpkg>Congratulations, sarc_3! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120!
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12:12<sarc_3>first and foremost id like to thank debian irc
12:12<bja>!beer sarc_3
12:12*dpkg deftly decants a fine Franziskaner Hefeweizen for sarc_3
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12:14<ml|>sarc_3: /msg dpkg 'ask' 'smart questions' for any other questions you might have in the future ;)
12:15<ajavid>where the help channel of oftc?
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12:19<wombatz>Does backports have a version of iceweasel based on firefox 3.5?
12:19<ml|>not yet
12:19<adb>is firefox 3.5 in testing ?
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12:20<ml|>not even in sid afaik
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12:21<ml|>the dev said will be ready when it's ready ;)
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12:23<ml|>judd: versions iceweasel
12:23<judd>ml|: iceweasel -- etch: etch-security: lenny: 3.0.6-1 squeeze: 3.0.9-1 sid: 3.0.11-1
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12:26<adb>judd: versions xulrunner-1.9
12:26<judd>adb: xulrunner-1.9 -- lenny: lenny-security: squeeze: sid:
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12:36<sarc_3>ok, i ran the 6.2.30 backport version and it still says "Driver needed by your ethernet card"
12:36<sarc_3>sorry 2.6.30
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12:37<sarc_3>bnx2 driver doesnt appear to be working
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12:37<sarc_3>it's in the list but doesnt detect the Broadcom NetExtreme II card
12:41<adb>[bnx2] The driver for Broadcom NetXtreme II (BCM5706/5708/5709/5716) NIC chipsets. Disabled in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.23-1 due to binary-only firmware, see Enabled again in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.24-7, install the <non-free> 'firmware-bnx2' package (lenny, etchnhalf) to enable driver use. If required, ask me about <installer firmware> to provide bnx2 firmware files, for device use at Debian installation time.
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12:43<adb>!installer firmware
12:43<dpkg>The Lenny installer is able to load extra (non-free) <firmware> either by adding it to the installation media or from a USB stick. See , and . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see
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12:46<marin>Hi, I'd like to know what font my console uses
12:46<marin>where can I find this?
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12:47<cahoot>marin: looked at /etc/console-tools/config?
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12:48<marin>yes cahoot
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12:49<marin>the 3 uncommented lines are "BLANK_TIME=30", "BLANK_DPMS=off", "POWERDOWN_TIME=30"
12:50<marin>so I don't think it has anything to do with the font
12:51<ml|>look at the end of the file
12:51<cahoot>nothing like: SCREEN_FONT=lat0-sun16
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12:53<marin>my "SCREEN_FONT="foo"" line is commented
12:53<marin>yes, debian eeepc
12:53<adb>marin: grep SCREEN_FONT /etc/console-tools/config
12:55<marin>marin@Ismene:~$ grep SCREEN_FONT /etc/console-tools/config
12:55<marin># SCREEN_FONT=latcyrheb-sun16.psf
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12:57<adb>dpkg: tell marin about paste
12:57<marin>:D sorry
12:57<ml|># What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
12:57<ml|>ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
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12:58<marin>adb: is it yours ?
12:58<adb>on debian
12:58<marin>hum :/
12:59<marin>where could it be else?
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13:00<adb>console-data is installed ?
13:00<adb>apt-file search lat0-sun16
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13:02<marin>yes it is adb
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13:02<marin>(apt-file: command not found)
13:03<adb>install apt-file
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13:07<ml|>which is better to use console-tools or console-setup?
13:07<adb>console-data ..
13:08<adb>marin: /j #debian-eeepc
13:09<marin>adb: console-data: /usr/share/consolefonts/lat0-sun16.psf.gz
13:09<marin>(for apt-file ...)
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13:23<danger_>Hi all with an SSD hard disk work fine with Debian 5?
13:23<danger_>with = will
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13:25<maria>I'm alexander I'm from venezuela
13:25<danger_>have you got a debian related question?
13:26<maria>mmm.... Yeah
13:26<danger_>!how to ask a question
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13:27<maria>Well.. I've a ubuntu 8.10 but i've a little prolems with him for the video.. You know a program special for edition of video?
13:28<azeem_>maria: please ask #ubuntu on
13:29<danger_>Could anyone help me with my SSD question - in the process of spec'ing a server and really could do with knowing
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13:30<azeem_>danger_: uhm
13:30<azeem_>danger_: if you want to spec a server, maybe you should do more research than just asking a random irc channel
13:30<danger_>azeem_ my question is SPECIFIC to debian
13:31<azeem_>danger_: rather specific to the Linux kernel version shipped in Debian 5
13:31<azeem_>obviously, it would at least depend on what kind of SSD you're looking at
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13:31<azeem_>I'd guess most are supported, but maybe some aren't
13:32<danger_>any of the new generation of SSD's I've looked at so far flag a requirement to have Vista SP1
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13:32<danger_>hence why I am asking here
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13:33<locklace>danger_: as a rule ssds look like ordinary disks to the kernel
13:33<danger_>thanks locklace, I heard there was a problem during the installation process have you come accross this?
13:34<locklace>that's awfully vague
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13:37<danger_>Sorry locklace I don't use one myself and it was a vague comment to me from a friend. Looks like it'll be fine from a link I've just seen though
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13:45<sandygws>Hey all, would someone be kind enough to tell me how to reinstall apt on Lenny x64 ... apt-get is not working.
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13:46<locklace>!doesn't work
13:46<dpkg>Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>.
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13:46<sandygws>My apologies. apt-get produces nothing ... a blank space with no cursor.
13:47<sandygws>SSH > log in > apt-get = zero
13:47<sandygws>SSH > log in > aptitude = zero
13:47<sp>sandygws: which apt-get command are you using? update?
13:47<sandygws>apt-get update
13:47<sandygws>^ for example.
13:48<sp>sandygws: ok, what does which apt-get tell you?
13:48<sp>should be /usr/bin/apt-get
13:48<sandygws>apt-get update = nothing. A blank space / empty line
13:48<sandygws>I then need to reconnect via SSH
13:48<sney`>it kills your ssh connection? that's weird.
13:49<sp>ok, I guess I should have used quotes: "which apt-get", what does that print to your ssh session?
13:49<pder>doesnt ctrl-c work?
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13:49<sandygws>sandygws@ns206986:~$ apt-get update
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13:50<sandygws>= zero ... just a blank space with no cursor
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13:51<locklace>sandygws: log in with another session while it's hung and check the state of the process with ps. verify the contents of /var are accessible and look healthy and then try the apt command again but this time with strace
13:52<danger_>Another question guys, can debian (not by default but with an addon / kernel module) support a ZFS pool over several SATA drives?
13:52<locklace>sandygws: and verify that dpkg works. dpkg -l, dpkg -L, etc.
13:52<sandygws>cd /var looks fine ...
13:52<sandygws>dpkg -l is also fine
13:52<dpkg>ii is also fine 1.7-2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
13:53<wnd>anything (such as kernel BUG) in dmesg?
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13:54<sandygws>dmesg produces a very long list ..
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13:54<locklace>"dmesg | tail -30" is good enough
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13:55<sandygws> failed fork with errno -11 by /usr/bin/apt-get[apt-get:7196] uid/euid:1000/1000 gid/egid:1000/1000, parent /usr/bin/apt-get[apt-get:7194] uid/euid:1000/1000 gid/egid:1000/1000
13:55<sandygws>That appears to be the only error.
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13:56<locklace>sandygws: "ps ax | less" and see if you have an excessive number of processes of some kind running
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13:56<wnd>I was thinking of "ps aux | wc -l"
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13:57<sandygws>locklace .. can I PM you?
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13:57<sandygws>ps ax | less produces a very long list ...
13:58<locklace>guessing you have some runaway processes
13:58<locklace>if it's not obvious to you what the problem processes are from that output, paste it to
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14:00<sarc_3>I am trying to install Debian 5.0.2 kernel version 2.6.30 and the installation will not recognize my Broadcom NetXtreme 2 VCM 5716 NIC. I have tried downloading the drivers onto my thumb drive and pointing the installation the the thumb drive during the installation but it still does not recognize the driver files. Thoughts?
14:00<sandygws>The second time, the list was short:
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14:01<locklace>that's just wrong. your system is hosed so bad that ps is failing, i guess
14:01<locklace>try it a few more times and paste the full output if it appears
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14:05<sandygws>This problem started after running aptitude install wine ... which then insisted on installing ia32-libs, etc.
14:05<locklace>paste the whole output, not just the first page
14:05<sandygws>Just a moment
14:06<sarc_3>any thoughts on my NIC issue?
14:06<sandygws>Full output:
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14:08<locklace>sandygws: nothing wrong there. try the above suggestions about running strace apt-get and doing the ps while it's running/hung
14:09<frank>hi, I think about changing from fetchmail to getmail, in fetchmail you can enable sslcertck to verify the sslfingerprint, does "getmail" has this abillity too? someone knows how to configure that or knows documentation regarding this
14:09<sandygws>Thank you. Can you please confirm exactly which command I need to run?
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14:10<locklace>sandygws: "strace apt-get update" and then log in separately while that's running and do the ps ax again. paste output from both
14:10<sandygws>Thank you ...
14:10<sandygws>su -
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14:12<sandygws>Locklace: strace apt-get update produces a long, long list ...
14:12<sandygws>Do you need the list?
14:13<locklace>the last page or so is probably sufficient
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14:14<sandygws>It appears that the command crashed the server ... no response from SSH. Will reboot ...
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14:15<locklace>i think i'm going to file this in the "ia32-apt-get is the spawn of satan" basket
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14:16<sandygws>Yes, I have been reading about the ia32-apt-get problem all day ...
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14:17<sandygws>IHas the ia32-apt-get problem still not been 'fixed'?
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14:18<sandygws>Server is back online ...
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14:21<Slurb>how do i mount and iso file
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14:21<dkr>Slurb: mount -o loop foo.iso dir
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14:23<sandygws>Locklace: Any ideas before I go for the easy option and reinstall from scratch?
14:23<lucas_amorim>hello! Where do I set virtual display size since my xorg.conf is empty ??
14:24<cahoot>creat an entry
14:25<lucas_amorim>hum... ok :)
14:26<drakeman>lucas_amorim, ------>
14:26<Slurb>well that doesnt seem to do what i want to be done
14:26<drakeman>Slurb, what do you wnat to do?
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14:26<lucas_amorim>drakeman: thanks
14:26<drakeman>Slurb, mount an iso image like a cd?
14:26<Slurb>i am trying to mount an iso so i can play a game without burning the iso to disk
14:26<Slurb>with wine
14:26<Slurb>call of duty 4 to be exact
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14:26<sney`>then dkr showed you what to do
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14:27<drakeman>Slurb, you are runing the game with wine inside debian?
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14:27<sney`>mount -o loop cod4.iso /media/cdrom
14:27<sney`>or whatever
14:27<drakeman>but why you say dosent work typing mount -t iso9660 nameoftheimage.iso folderwhereyouwanttomount -o loop
14:27<dkr>then the dir that you mount it on probably has to be somewhere within the dir system wine chroots into
14:28<lucas_amorim>drakeman: this is old, this command no longer asks for resolutions, settings must be done by editing the xorg.conf file..
14:28<Slurb>it is mounting it the game just isnt reading it
14:28<dkr>on theother hand, wine may have a method itself for pretending an .iso is a cd drive to windows. I'd check their docs/faqs
14:28<drakeman>lucas_amorim, mmm sometime ago i set my resolution manually using xrandr.
14:28<sney`>lucas_amorim: if you google for 'xorg.conf resolution' you will get the part of the Gentoo manual pertaining to this... it's the same thing as in debian
14:29<valdyn>dkr: it doesnt
14:29<PCaddict>anyone have experience with headless debian (no vga card installation) i got one working but i have a strange behaviour ... If i boot the image over a computer that have a vga card , i have no problem with openssh , i can make dpkg-reconfigure and the console gui work , if i do a sambapasswd its work , but when i boot this image over the headless server , the input over package configuration
14:29<PCaddict>stop working
14:29<PCaddict>and smbpasswd stop working too...
14:29<dkr>valdyn: maybe this is why I still dual boot to play games. :)
14:30<valdyn>dkr: hardly
14:30<dkr>valdyn: are you really arguing with me about my own motivations? hah
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14:30<PCaddict>its look like a problem of console redirection but i google it all the day long yeasterday without found a hint...
14:30<valdyn>dkr: im argueing that the lack of if wine reimplementing linux kernel features isnt what breaks wine
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14:31<Slurb>nope all signs point to what ive done allready
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14:32<drakeman>lucas_amorim, this should help, it works for me ----->
14:32<valdyn>drakeman: you can use iso files like cdrom in wine, with the help of linux kernel features, but you need to assign a drive letter and make that drive letter be a cdrom, in winecfg
14:33<drakeman>valdyn, never tried before!
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14:33<drakeman>valdyn, i have a dual boot for games :D
14:33<diem>hi all .. I'm quite lost to where I should report a problem. I'm using debian unstable with root fs in a LVM+luks setup (done via the d-i). Since yesterday's update, my boot fails for some reason after typing my luks passphrase. (fails with some mount commands). still if I boot using my initrd backup it still works.
14:33<valdyn>drakeman: thats the sane solution anyway
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14:35<Slurb>valdyn doesnt work with this game for some reason
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14:35<valdyn>Slurb: or that cdrom image just doesnt work because it doesnt have the securom stuff
14:36<valdyn>Slurb: drm, copy protection
14:36<valdyn>Slurb: an iso image is not an image of the complete cdrom
14:36<Slurb>thats my thought
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14:37<Slurb>the iso isnt an exact
14:37<valdyn>Slurb: not only not exact, its not complete
14:38<Slurb>well i fixed it
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14:38<Slurb>cod4 works on linux
14:39<valdyn>Slurb: how did you fix it?
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14:39<Slurb>just got a cracked exe
14:39<valdyn>Slurb: I see
14:39<Slurb>no-cd one
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14:39<valdyn>thats stupid fucked up drm anyway
14:39<valdyn>having to play disk jokey
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14:44<sarc_3>Debian 5.0.2 kernel 2.6.30 will not recognize my Broadcom NetXtreme 2 VCM 5716 NIC during installation
14:45<sarc_3>i put the driver files from Broadcom's website on a thumb drive and it also does not recognize those during the installation
14:45<petemc>the installer asks for firmware, not drivers
14:45<petemc>how did you get the installer with 2.6.30 ?
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14:46<sarc_3>the error during installation says "Drivers needed"
14:46<sarc_3>not firmware
14:46<sarc_3>and then it gives a list
14:47<sarc_3>a list that does not contain the driver i need
14:47<petemc>the official installer only needs firmware
14:47<sarc_3>i also skipped the network portion of the install and used dpkg to install firmware-bnx2 package and it fails
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14:49<sarc_3>the original installation net install CD gave me the same error
14:50<sarc_3>what do i try now?
14:51<sarc_3>the firmware files were in the firmware directory after the installation completed but at boot it says there is an error opening them
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14:53<chealer>sarc_3: why don't you try to install plain lenny?
14:53<sarc_3>during the boot process it says "Cannot load firmware file...."
14:53<sarc_3>then gives the name of the firmware file
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14:53<sarc_3>is that plain lenny?
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14:54<sarc_3>i have that install CD too and i get the same errors
14:54<craigevil>sarc_3: take a look at
14:55<sarc_3>im not sure plain lenny supports this card
14:55<tosate>hi there! I have subscribed two debian mailing lists since july 22 but I didn't receive any messages
14:55<tosate>what's the problem?
14:55<chealer>sarc_3: yes
14:56<pder>is it possible to install debian on a personal computer?
14:56<chealer>sarc_3: why? Linux 2.6.26 should support that card
14:56<Tekno_>wut :D
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14:56<chealer>pder: yes
14:56<sarc_3>yeah ive read that
14:56<chahibi>pder: yes
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14:56<chealer>tosate: which?
14:57<stew>pder has been trolling this channel occasionally for years with this type of question. I'd recommend just ignoring him
14:57<stew>pder: if you don't mind stopping the trolling, that would be great
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14:57<pder>sorry stew
14:57<tosate>chealer: debian-devel-announce and debian-news-german
14:58<chealer>tosate: there were no messages on d-d-a since you subscribed. probably the same for the latter
14:58<chealer>sarc_3: why do you need network access to install?
14:59<tosate>chealer: fine, thank you!
14:59<chealer>tosate: note that you can consult the archives via
14:59<sarc_3>chealer: is that the kernel included in the current stable release of 5.0.2 that is posted for download at
15:00<chealer>sarc_3: yes
15:00<sarc_3>it's a net install CD
15:00<chealer>sarc_3: despite the name, that doesn't mean you need net access to install
15:00<tosate>chealer: oh, thanks for the advice ;-)
15:00<sarc_3>i am still left with the same problem
15:01<sarc_3>even if i dont use the "net install" features
15:01<sarc_3>OS doesnt recognize my NIC
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15:02<sarc_3>i have no idea how to load the module for my NIC
15:02<sarc_3>ive been to the Dell website and Broadcom
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15:04<chealer>sarc_3: how do you tell?
15:05<sarc_3>the installation says there is no NIC present
15:05<sarc_3>and Debian has no entries in /etc/network/interfaces
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15:06<chealer>sarc_3: what does it say exactly?
15:06<sarc_3>during the installation?
15:07<sarc_3>or interfaces file?
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15:07<chealer>sarc_3: during installation
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15:07<chealer>sarc_3: no entries in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't mean the NIC isn't detected
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15:07<d_rol>hello. before sending a bug report, i'd like to know if someone experienced crashes with python-imaging-tk (on PIL.ImageTk.PhotoImage)
15:07<sarc_3>one sec, ill get exact message
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15:08<shze>with the last update I got 2.6.30 (sid), but that doesn't have openvz nor vserver. is that planned? or how can I compile it?
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15:10<sarc_3>chealer: "No Ethernet card was detected. If you know the name of the driver needed by your Ethernet card, you can select it from the list."
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15:10<sarc_3>"Driver needed by your ethernet card:"
15:10<sarc_3>then it lists a bunch of drivers
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15:11<sarc_3>and there is the option for "no ethernet card" at the top of the list and "none of the above" at the end
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15:11<sarc_3>do i need to compile the drivers myself for this system?
15:12<chealer>sarc_3: you shouldn't
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15:12<sarc_3>choosing none of the above takes you to a screen where it asks you to load the drivers from external media
15:12<dehqan>good day all ,what is the best way to encrypt chat messages ?
15:12<sarc_3>i tried from a thumb drive and it doesnt find them
15:13<chealer>sarc_3: the installer didn't "recognize" that you had an Ethernet card, but at least the installed system should detect it, as shows by lspci
15:13<sarc_3>downloaded drivers from
15:14<sarc_3>during boot it tries to install the firmware but it failes
15:14<sarc_3>says it cannot open the firmware file
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15:15<shze>any idea how to get openvz with 2.6.30? I don't seem to find useful info
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15:16<sarc_3>should i just proceed with the install and fix this in the OS
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15:17<sarc_3>chealer: one other thing, there is a bnx2 driver in the list I mentioned
15:17<chealer>sarc_3: yes
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15:17<sarc_3>but when i select it, the screen flashes and then puts me back on the screen with the list
15:17<mastico> Xen - how can I symlink directory from Dom0 to DomU?
15:17<chealer>sarc_3: the installer should be able to load the firmware, but if it doesn't work or you don't know hard, it should be easier on the installed system
15:18<sarc_3>any idea why bnx2 in the list wont work?
15:18<adb>sarc_3: from where you get your firmware ?
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15:19<sarc_3>no what i pasted earlier, the installation screen
15:20<sarc_3>the "bnx2" driver which is the one it requires is listed but selecting it doesnt do anything
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15:22<kolin>How do I test firefox 3.5 keeping my stable iceweasel version?
15:22<sney`>building from source?
15:23<E0x>you can download the binary from firefox page
15:23<E0x>and just ./firefox from the folder
15:23<sney`>the binaries will be named differently, the only thing that could overlap is the config stuff
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15:24<craigevil>create a new profile before running Firefox
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15:25<mastico>Any idea how to symlink directory from xen server to his virtual machine?
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15:26<kolin>Where I find the exactly binary? Intead the .deb package from the download page.
15:26<chealer>sarc_3: probably because of the firmware
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15:27<sarc_3>so what would you suggest?
15:27<sarc_3>i found a bnx2 firmware package but when i try to install it it fails
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15:30<Txt_file>how can i check if ssh-compression is enabled? i'm using debian sid amd64 as host and putty as client
15:30<kpoorman>I'm needing to create some .deb packages that are for internal use only. We're wanting to use .deb packages for distrobution of our web software. it's just scripts so we don't have a make file. I've created a make file that just has an install portion but Its moving all the files out, including the debian/rules and failing is there a better way to create a deb package of non compiled, no binary software? or how can i overcome this?
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15:36<chealer>sarc_3: just install plain lenny without using the network during the installation
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15:48<sarc_3>chealer: ok it's installed
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15:51<adb>!win sarc_3
15:51<dpkg>Congratulations, sarc_3! You have won the US presidency!
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15:51<sarc_3>lol, but i still have no NIC
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15:51<ml|>adb: a bit premature ;)
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15:52<sarc_3>very premature
15:52<adb>3 days for that step .. not so bad ..
15:52<sarc_3>haha.. ive done this about ten times now
15:52<sarc_3>it doesnt fix my issue
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15:53<adb>sarc_3: a wired interface is there ?
15:53<sarc_3>two wired interfaces
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15:53<sarc_3>both Broadcom NetXtreme 2 5716
15:54<Kira>Hi everyone, could you please give me a tip about how to fix this problem:
15:54<sarc_3>one connected to network
15:54<Kira>ns206986:~# ./
15:54<Kira>Unable to connect to Xserver. This installer requires
15:54<Kira>X11 to work, please correct the problem and try again.
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15:55<Txt_file>Kira: install and start X?
15:55<jackyf>Kira: install xfce 4.6 from repos
15:55<Kira>X is installed ...
15:55<Kira>ns206986:~# startx
15:55<Kira>X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
15:55<ml|>yeah why use that instead of repo version
15:56<Kira>I don't know how to install using the repo version ...
15:56<Kira>Perhaps you can help?
15:56<ml|>aptitude intall
15:56<locklace>are you even using debian
15:56<Kira>Debian x64
15:56<ml|>aptitude install *
15:56<Txt_file>!tell Kira about Xfce
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15:57<Kira>aptitude install xfce ?
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15:57<adb>aptitude install xfce4
15:57<ml|>dpkg: tell Kira about install xfce
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15:58<ml|>Kira: read messages from dpkg
15:58<Kira>aptitude install xfce4 = Done
15:58<Kira>I'm installing this remotely over SSH
15:59<adb>Kira: aptitude install xorg xdm
15:59<Kira>abd: already done ...
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15:59<sney`>xfce4 would pull xorg as a dependency if it wasn't already installed
15:59<ml|>Kira: unless sshd_config is setup to forward X it won't work
16:00<Kira>I followed the config steps here:
16:00<adb>ah *vnc ..
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16:01<Kira>Sorry .. yes, I'm trying to connect via RealVNC
16:01<ml|>yeah that is not using ssh tho that is using vnc
16:01<Kira>Right now I'm getting a blank screen.
16:02<sney`>vnc is pretty hacky on unix
16:02<Kira>Can I paste the output of startx somewhere?
16:02<ml|>and not secure
16:02<adb>Kira: your site > Latest update: 05/05/2003
16:02<Kira>It doesn't need to be secure :)
16:02<Kira>Thanks adb
16:02<Kira>: >)
16:02<ml|>dpkg: tell Kira about pastebin
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16:03<Kira>Thank you.
16:06<sarc_3>ok, so im still stuck
16:06<adb>sarc_3: from where you get your firmware ?
16:06<ml|>dpkg: tell Kira about vnc
16:06<Txt_file>how can i check if ssh-compression is enabled? i'm using .
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16:06<ml|>dpkg: tell Kira about vnc setup
16:07<Txt_file>.debian sid amd64 as host and putty as client
16:07<bja>sarc_3: Wireless Broadcom is defenetly a pain to install if it can be achieved at all
16:07<Kira>ml: VNC is installed and configured.
16:08<ml|>Kira: yes but since that guide is old best to look at something more current
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16:10<cahoot>bja: on what do you base that statement?
16:10<LeoLolo>gsimmons thanks
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16:11<ml|>Txt_file: unless you set in ssh_config it is off man ssh_config and ssh for more info
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16:11<Kira>ml: could you please take a look at
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16:14<ml|>Kira: looks like xorg.conf is not configured correctly ... (WW) intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
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16:14<Kira>Thank you. Where do I find xorg.conf?
16:14<adb>Kira: paste remote `/etc/X11/xorg.conf` , `uname -r` , and cat /etc/debian_version``
16:14<dbbolton>whaddayaknow, it works again
16:15<sarc_3>ok enough for today
16:15<sarc_3>thanks for all of the help guys
16:15<adb>sarc_3: just ls /lib/firmware/
16:15<adb>says ?
16:15<Kira> remote `/etc/X11/xorg.conf` , `uname -r` , and cat /etc/debian_version``
16:15<Kira>-bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
16:15<Kira>-bash: remote: command not found
16:16<sarc_3>adb: there are two firmware files in there
16:16<ml|>Kira: adb asking you to past that to a pastebin
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16:16<sarc_3>bnx2-06-4.0.5.fw and bnx2-09-4.0.5.fw
16:16<adb>Kira: remote is the system , you are in with ssh
16:17<Kira>I see
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16:17<Txt_file>ml|: i enabled it in the client. do i need to also enable it in the server-config?
16:17<Kira>The xorg.conf file is empty ...
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16:18<Kira>Debain version = 5.0.2
16:18<adb>Kira: where you run than startx , on which system ?
16:18<Kira>Over SSH: startx
16:19<ml|>Txt_file: man sshd_config
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16:20<adb>Kira: than you missing something , remote system has xorg.conf non empty
16:20<adb>Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log
16:20<Txt_file>i check it
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16:20<adb>Kira: Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
16:21<Kira>So I guess I need to revise xorg.conf?
16:21<sarc_3>how do i install this firmware?
16:22<sarc_3>the two files are in the firmware directory
16:22<sarc_3>is that it?
16:23<adb>Kira: no , make sure you know you are on which system remotely
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16:23<sarc_3>gotta run, thanks again
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16:24<Kira>Well, I have installed xfce4, xdm and xserver-xorg-xore and xfs
16:24<Kira>vnc is also installed and connects fine.
16:24<Kira>But how do I enable Xserver?
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16:25<adb>Xserver is started by vncserver
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16:26<dpkg>[bnx2] The driver for Broadcom NetXtreme II (BCM5706/5708/5709/5716) NIC chipsets. Disabled in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.23-1 due to binary-only firmware, see Enabled again in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.24-7, install the <non-free> 'firmware-bnx2' package (lenny, etchnhalf) to enable driver use. If required, ask me about <installer firmware> to provide bnx2 firmware files, for device use at Debian installation time.
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16:26<Kira>abd: I am connected now using VNC4server ... I have a blank screen. No xfce ...
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16:26<chealer>gsimmons: are you sure about this factoid? the firmware-bnx2 package description doesn't talk about 5716
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16:27<adb>Kira: what's VNC4server
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16:28<Kira>adb: Sorry, RealVNC
16:28<chealer>gsimmons: I mean, do you think this factoid is correct?
16:28<adb>Kira: debian package ?
16:28<Kira>5.0.2 x64
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16:29<adb>Kira: no . is RealVNC debian package ?
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16:30<Kira>adb: It was installed with apt-get install vnc4server
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16:31<dpkg>methinks realvnc is at
16:31<adb>Kira: is called than vnc4server
16:31<Kira>It's called RealVNC ..
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16:32<adb>is so in not from debian
16:32<ml|>adb: not from debian, right
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16:33<Kira>The VNC package is not from Debian. I'm asking how to configure Debian to run Xfce.
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16:34<Kira>I can connect just fine ... but get a white desktop with a root Terminal.
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16:34<Kira>No Xfce gui
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16:35<ml|>does it start locally?
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16:35<adb>ml|: no ..
16:35<Kira>No ... it's a remote server.
16:35<ml|>just asking heh
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16:36<ml|>i figuered that ;)
16:36<Kira>Do you know what I'm missing: all the components are correctly installed and I have no errors.
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16:37<ml|>i'm just wondering why you would need that on remote server
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16:37<Kira>I don't need it ... just prefer to use a gui.
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16:38<adb> white desktop with a root Terminal IS a gui
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16:39<Kira>Yes, it is. But without Xfce ...
16:39<Kira>Unable to connect to Xserver. This installer requires
16:39<Kira>X11 to work, please correct the problem and try again.
16:40<adb>Kira: onother non debian package ?
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16:40<Kira>I already have this working on another remote machine.
16:40<Kira>Same version of Debian, etc.
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16:41<Kira>That's why I don't understand why this doesn't want to function as it should ...
16:41<ml|>Kira: using same config files?
16:41<Kira>I don't know. I guess not ...
16:42<ml|>same hardware?
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16:43<ml|>well using config files from working system might not work, but i guess it can't hurt just backup originals incase
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16:44<evolabo>hello, would somebody likes help me, I have a troubles with a perl script
16:44<ml|>Kira: did you try reconnecting after you install xfce4
16:44<adb>evolabo: #perl ?
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16:45<adb>evolabo: try #perl , i meant
16:46<ml|>adb: on freenode or here
16:46<adb>try both .. i dunoo
16:46<evolabo>I went to #perl channel, but nobody answer me
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16:54<Jaleks>hi, can somebody help me fixing my issue that the package wx2.8-headers won't get configured? ( problem is: "package has no field Python-Version"
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16:58<chealer>Jaleks: which Debian suite do you use?
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16:59<Jaleks>chealer: lenny, i386
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17:00<chealer>Jaleks: paste the command and its English output
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17:04<Jaleks> - previously started as 'dpkg --configure -a', in the meantime i edited the '.postinst' to exit before calling python
17:04<Jaleks>chealer: versionof package is ''
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17:06<chealer>Jaleks: I saw that. what does $ apt-cache policy wx2.8-headers; output?
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17:07<bzed>Jaleks: eh wtf/ no bug report please.
17:07<bzed>Jaleks: don't use broken packages from upstreams
17:07<bzed>stay with packages from debian.
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17:08<chealer>Jaleks: are you intentionally trying to install a different wxwidgets version?
17:08<bzed>Jaleks: especially when the packages were created for etch and not for lenny...
17:08<Jaleks>uuuh, didn't relly notice that before, no, it was not my intention
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17:10<chealer>Jaleks: well, you have a wxwidgets repository in your APT sources, which overrides the default Debian packages when you try installing wxwidgets packages. the package APT is trying to install is not supported here. if you don't know why you have that APT source, just remove it,
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17:11<ComradeHaz>Hi all, Am I going crazy? I could have swarn get-iplayer was packaged for us. If it is, what's the package called?! I tried apt-cache searching, but no luck. Am I losing the plot or something?!
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17:13<southernc>whats the command to search a dir for files containing certain text
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17:13<southernc>i keep forgetting
17:14<southernc>grep doesnt do it
17:14<southernc>its a longer command
17:14<ml|>for files names find
17:14<ComradeHaz>grep -r blah /dir/* surely?
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17:14<southernc>maybe that was it hmm
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17:16<southernc>i dont want to find a file i want to find files with a specified text in them
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17:16<chealer>southernc: grep
17:16<Hideo>grep would do that
17:17<Jaleks>thanks all, no idea why my predecessor configured wxwidgets from elsewhere (and multimedia on a server)...
17:17<southernc>or maybe somone could tell me where the heck i configure the mod_evasive settings for apache2 cause i cant find them anywhere google says
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17:18<Hideo>grep -ir evas /path/to/your_apache_directory/
17:18<southernc>well its not in /etc/apache2/* cause ive looked through every file
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17:24<southernc> grep -r DOSBlockingPeriod /etc/*
17:24<southernc>grep: /etc/alternatives/ No such file or directory
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17:28<asaleem>how can I find if processor is 32 or 64bit
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17:29<ml|>what processor
17:29<southernc>google ?
17:30<adb>asaleem: ? your processor ?
17:30<adb>smart questions ..
17:30<asaleem>adb, yes
17:30<adb>uname -r ?
17:31<adb>says ?
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17:31<Jaleks>asaleem: have a look at dmidecode perhaps, or maybe a `cat /proc/cpuinfo` would be enough
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17:32<adb>southernc: /etc/alternatives/ is a symlink only
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17:32<southernc>thats what came up when i did the search thats why i was trying to say i couldnt use grep
17:33<asaleem>Jaleks, yes dmidecode gives the processor Version that I can google to find out
17:33<southernc>find / -type f | xargs grep -l
17:33<southernc>was what i was trying to figure out
17:33<asaleem>Jaleks, it says 9400 which is 64bit
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17:37<Jaleks>asaleem: so go get lenny amd64 an 4gig more ram ;-)
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17:38<asaleem>Jaleks, 1st choice looks good especially when you are really broke
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18:10<shze>how can I remove a pkg that returns an error on remove or purge?
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18:14<maxb>shze: If you are left with no other choice, you can manually edit the failing script - /var/lib/dpkg/info/mcelog.prerm
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18:18<ml|>I had to do what maxb said once, to fix a similar issue and worked fine
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18:18<shze>maxb: thanks, worked perfectly
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18:31<tCzern>hi, how can I get to init 1 ?
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18:31<tCzern>I am typing this into the terminal, and it returns command not found
18:31<azeem>tCzern: are you root?
18:32<azeem>non-root uses are not allowed to change the runlevel
18:32<tCzern>ok, lemme try
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18:38<tCzern>back, in init 1 I cannot do anything, a line saying ACPI unable to turn of cooling device keeps scrolling down, even if I boot with ACPI=off
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18:39<azeem>tCzern: why did you want to go to level 1 anyway?
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18:39<tCzern>to run fsck
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18:58<evolabo>hello, does somebody knows about perl scripts
18:59<bja>evolabo: #perl on
18:59<evolabo>I went to #perl channel but nobody answered me
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19:00<bja>evolabo: Subdivide your problem into atomic parts so you do understand what is going on, then rephrase you question so they can help you
19:00<dkr>evolabo: perhaps you need to ask better questions. :)
19:02<evolabo>Yes I'll try it
19:02<abrotman>evolabo: did you try #perl on freenode ?
19:02<evolabo>yes i'm tying
19:02<dkr>not in the last 8 hours
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19:12<gN__Eterm>hello to all
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19:13<gN__Eterm>how can i create a script that everytime that i start linux, send me a email with my ip
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19:17<abrotman>!run at startup
19:17<dpkg>Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README, or as a user you can also use a cron entry with @reboot, or add it to /etc/rc.local
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19:20<dkr>actually, in this case you'd probably want to run the script via post-up in interfaces file
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19:21<bja>abrotman, dkr: the bird flew faster than you could shoot
19:22<dkr>ah. I filter all joins/parts. the improved signal/noise ratio is worth the occasional missed shot. :)
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19:23<abrotman>dkr: he could make an init script that runs after the interfaces are brought up
19:24<dkr>nod, just thought post-up would be nicer in case ip changes other than at boot
19:24<dkr>and no need to figure out init script priorities
19:25<dkr>or he could install that dyndns client that can update your dyndns entry. :)
19:25<bja>naa, the guy needed an ip to ssh back in case his isp changed it, hes solution is either no-ip or myvnc
19:26<Slurb>if he puts the modem in unnumbered mode and uses his router to pppoe the router should have a dydns thing
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19:26<Slurb>im not sure of the problem but thats how mine is
19:26<bja>Slurb: dydns??
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19:28<Slurb>i set my modem to unnumbered mode and used my router to pppoe to the isp and my router has a thing where it sends dyndns the new data every time it changes
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19:29<sbin>does anyone know how i can install nsplugginwrapper in unstable? (currently there's a broken dependency)
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19:29<craigevil>sbin: why do you need it?
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19:30<Slurb>whats the broken dependancy
19:30<sbin>craigevil, i'm running debian-amd64, i'm having trouble with flashplugin-nonfree, and I heard it takes nspluginwrapper to fix it
19:31<Slurb>sbin no
19:31<sbin>Slurb, no?
19:31<Slurb>nonfree is the 64bit one
19:31<sbin>Slurb, hmm
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19:31<Slurb>ndiswrapper is for flashplayer-mozilla
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19:32<Slurb>whats the broken dependancy
19:33<sbin>Slurb, ia32-libs is the broken dependency
19:33<sbin>Slurb, but it seems you're right, i just tried the pluggin with a different user and it seems to work fine
19:33<sbin>Slurb, could this be related to the 'video' group?
19:33<Slurb>i have had great results with the nonfree plugin
19:34<Slurb>i believe its adobe
19:34<sbin>Slurb, yeah you're right it seems to be working fine with this other user..., it's odd, what permissions could i be missing?
19:34<Slurb>are both users part of the video group?
19:35<Slurb>it could also be an ad blocker
19:35<Slurb>or a proxy server
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19:38<sbin>hmm... i'll look into it, i'm very glad however that you've told me flashplugin is 64 bit... i wasn't looking forward to installing nspluginwrapper since i don't really want 32 and 64 bit libs installed
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19:38<Slurb>they dont hurt anything
19:38<Slurb>if need be
19:39<sbin>Slurb, true... i don't know, it seems cleaner
19:39<sbin>Slurb, thanks a lot for your help
19:39<Slurb>n/p good luck!
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19:39<bja>[Xel]: /j #debian-es
19:39<[Xel]>I don't speak spanish :)
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19:40<diego>hi, I see an open connection with netstat, I would like to know which process is using it
19:40<diego>do you know any magic command ?
19:40<[Xel]>netstat -pa ?
19:40<bja>then what was the hola for?
19:41<[Xel]>bja - even people who don't "speak" spanish know hola.
19:41<diego>funny thing ... just see a dash
19:41<[Xel]>Are you running it as root?
19:41<[Xel]>maybe it doesn't need it
19:42<diego>oh, ok ... sorry
19:42<diego>yeah, its running as root :) thx
19:42<diego>now I know
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19:45<[Xel]>Ok so I'm not a web server expert... If I have a web server running, and my logs are showing GET's for full URL's, like "GET HTTP/1.0", is that just someone connecting directly to apache and issuing the full GET string?
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20:00<dkr>[Xel]: if by "someone", you mean bots probing for vulnerabilities in broke web servers. yeah
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20:01<dkr>or a misconfigured proxy
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20:01<dkr>or yeah, just some not very bright script kiddy. :)
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20:04<ml|>bja: -2
20:05<bja>yeap, Guess I'm erratic today :)
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20:50<iztehsux>hi, i'm trying to get my resolution to 1024x768 using lenny ppc and seem to be stuck.
20:53<iztehsux>i've edited my xorg.conf to add the sought-after resolution, but can't seem to make it stick.
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21:20<SuperMiguel>whats the command to see the output of the screen lmesg?
21:21<SuperMiguel>like the errors
21:21<southernc>is there a program that can clean your system of files not in use from uninstalled etc... apt-get clean dont do it
21:22<southernc>or localepurge
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21:25<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, cruft is a program to look over your system for anything that shouldn't be there, but is; or for anything that should be there, but isn't. To install it, type apt-get install cruft. It takes a while to run.
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21:25<southernc>sweet thanks
21:27<southernc>thats exactly what im looking for
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21:34<lteezy>arn't we all
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21:35<southernc>well almost (;0/
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21:56<abrotman>almost ?
21:57<bremner>I have a wired internet connection that I want to bridge to wlan. Is there a simple way of doing this on debian? I guess I need a dhcp server and an ad-hoc network. I'd rather not use network-manager (wicd seems much more stable for me).
21:57<abrotman>there is the bridge utils package
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22:15<bremner>bridge-utils looks plausible. Anyone remember the trick to make an intel 4965 go into master mode? I have vague memories of creating a new device from wmaster0
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22:18<Slurb>iwconfig mode master wlan0
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22:19<bremner>Slurb: yeah, it doesn't work. Maybe the hardware doesn't support master mode, but I thought there was some trick.
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22:31<Slurb>not that i know of but i never had that card
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23:19<lteezy>can anyone help me out with compiz ..... I can't seem to get the animation add-on to work :(
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23:21<justfil>How to update glibc? I'm trying to compile vlc and it says my glibc is old...
23:22<twb>Once upon a time, mount -o bind,ro would silently create a WRITABLE bind mount. This was fixed a while back, but in what version of the kernel?
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23:23<twb>Apparently not in 2.6.24.
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23:25<justfil>How to update glibc? I'm trying to compile vlc and it says my glibc is old...
23:26<adb>justfil: you should not
23:26<bremner>justfil: probably you should not upgrade glibc.
23:26<adb>justfil: lenny ?
23:27<ml|>you can get vlc from repo
23:27<adb>vlc works fine on lenny
23:28<justfil>yes, i can but it's kinda different from the latest version in Windows
23:28<justfil>and Ubuntu too
23:28<adb>and ?
23:29<justfil>and i want it to be like the version in windows and ubuntu ( )
23:29<justfil> - a better screenshot
23:30<adb>justfil: use windows + ubuntu
23:30<bremner>justfil: then ask vlc if they really need newer glibc than is in lenny
23:30<ml|>#videolan on
23:30<justfil>thank you
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23:31<ml|>i prefer mplayer :)
23:31<ml|>or with gui smplayer
23:31<manphiz>maybe a lenny-backport of vlc will be available some day :)
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23:32<justfil>I will try smplayer, though i'm using vlc for 2 years now
23:33<justfil>linux is all about alternatives :)
23:33<ml|>i used to use vlc, but then found mplayer :)
23:34<justfil>too bad it's KDE
23:35<ml|>well not really kde, but i think there is also gmplayer but have never used that
23:35<Slurb>gmplayer rocks
23:36<bremner>gmplayer's floating control thingy bugs me (it doesn't work well in xmonad)
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23:37<ml|>bremner: mplayer in xmonad works great here and when i used smplayer
23:37<bremner>yeah, I use mplayer. Didn't try smplayer yet
23:39<ml|>bremner: , className =? "Smplayer" --> doCenterFloat --
23:39<justfil>I can't find 'gmplayer' in the repos
23:39<ml|>save you the trouble
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23:40<ml|>do you need dmm for that?
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23:44<SuperMiguel>how well does debian run in esxi?
23:46<SuperMiguel>vmware esxi
23:46<sney>about as well as any other 2.6-based linux distro, I'd imagine.
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23:48<ml|>justfil: gnome-mplayer try this one
23:49<justfil>nope, nothing there
23:51<ml|>yeah only in testing and sid, just checked
23:52<ml|>try smplayer tho
23:52<bremner>justfil: see
23:53<justfil>Thank you, bremner
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23:58<gsimmons>chealer: I'm fairly sure the bnx2 factoid is correct: the 'b06' firmware is used for BCM5706/5708 and 'b09' for BCM5709/5716. Once verified, I'll submit a patch for firmware-nonfree to get the description amended. Thanks for spotting this.
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