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00:00<legnaleurc>bash: i am afriad there is no package solution for now
00:00<bash>legnaleurc: Can i install video drivers in chroot?
00:00<SuperMiguel> is there anything similar to gnump3 that doesnt have as many bugs?
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00:01<legnaleurc>bash: i don't know ... nvidia driver should work fine with amd64
00:01<legnaleurc>bash: at least on my machine
00:01<bash>I know that but I need video drivers in chroot for googleearth (90% sure)
00:02<legnaleurc>sorry i can't help you about that ...
00:02<GRAO>Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "4.1.3", while you are trying to use
00:02<GRAO>"/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.3.2". This configuration is not recommended and
00:02<GRAO>VMware Server may crash if you'll continue. Please try to use exactly same
00:02<GRAO>compiler as one used for building your kernel. Do you want to go with compiler
00:02<GRAO>"/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.3.2" anyway?
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00:47<gaurav_10>I am on debian_lenny_5.0.0..I was trying to setup pppoe connection through rp-pppoe. It gets connected but I am not able to browse any site or ping from cli. I have already flooded /etc/resolv.conf with the DNS and also some of the opendns but still it doesnt seem to work. Anyone ?
00:47<gaurav_10>hello guys.
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00:47<gaurav_10>anyone guys ?
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00:48<jackyf>gaurav_10: route problems? pastebin your 'route -n' output
00:49<gaurav_10>oh i am on a separate box right now jackyf i can only type the messages as that box is not connected
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00:50<jackyf>gaurav_10: ehm, well, try just set 'replacedefaultroute' for ppp on that box
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00:50<gaurav_10>jackyf, how to do that plz :)
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00:50<gaurav_10>jackyf, Can it be some dns trouble.?
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00:51<jackyf>gaurav_10: well, I don't know where rp-pppoe stores config files, I didn't use it, only plain ppp.
00:52<gaurav_10>jackyf, well plain ppp finds the same problems as rp-pppoe
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00:53<gaurav_10>jackyf, i would type the output of route -n. wish I could ssh into my system but no its not connected and the box I am on has only one lan_card
00:53<jackyf>gaurav_10: then /etc/ppp/peers/<what_you_have>
00:53<jackyf>do you have such a config?
00:53<gaurav_10>jackyf, yes
00:54<jackyf>does it have 'replacedefaultroute' string in?
00:54<rafaelgp>hello everybody ;) i have eth0 up with 3 IP addresses. my route default is eth0. but i don't know how to make that default. if i restart networking or reboot, the routing will get messed up again.
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00:55<rafaelgp>yes. i have it configured to eth0, eth0:0 and eth0:1
00:55<rafaelgp>in that order.
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00:55<gaurav_10>jackyf, yes :)
00:55<rafaelgp>but if i dont change the route, the default output source is eth0:1 and i need it to be eth0 (which has an ip with reverse)
00:56<jackyf>gaurav_10: hm, and 'defaultroute' too?
00:56<Jb_boin>just put gateway on the main interface
00:56<Jb_boin>not on the aliases
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00:56<Jb_boin>not shure it would work
00:56<gaurav_10>jackyf, yes
00:57<Jb_boin>but normally putting gateway on every if is working fine
00:57<rafaelgp>i only have one ip with reverse (eth0) and i need it to be the default route for output... thats all.
00:57<jackyf>gaurav_10: and still not browsing with that settings?
00:57<gaurav_10>Jb_boin, how to do it?
00:57<Jb_boin>normally it use the main interface, are you shure you put auto eth0 eth:...
00:57<rafaelgp>otherwise i wont be able to send emails.
00:57<Jb_boin>and not auth eth0:... eth0
00:57<Jb_boin>how to do what
00:58<rafaelgp>i have:
00:58<rafaelgp>auto eth0 eth0:0 eth0:1
00:58<rafaelgp>iface eth0 inet static
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00:58<Jb_boin>then you can use iptables if you want to force an output adress
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00:59<gaurav_10>jackyf, no it says I am connected but I am not able to browse the internet
00:59<Jb_boin>but the best to do is to configure your daemons to use the interface/ip you choose to
00:59<rafaelgp>but thats for listening
00:59<rafaelgp>when they send data out, it goes from the last IP, eth0:1
01:00<rafaelgp>unless i delete all defaults and do 'route add default eth0'
01:00<Jb_boin>many daemons can also bind to an output adress
01:00<jackyf>gaurav_10: then please retype your 'route -n' to pastebin, maybe, we'll get something out of it
01:00<Jb_boin>if it put more than one default route than you have a problem
01:00<Jb_boin>ah no
01:00<Jb_boin>i am wrong
01:01<rafaelgp>but those routes appear automatically after networking is started
01:01<gaurav_10>jackyf, could you tell me which field you need so I can type it here..
01:01<Jb_boin>are you running an x86 kernel or an amd64?
01:01<gaurav_10>If I were connected to net then I wouldnt have this problem.
01:01<Jb_boin>then install ifmetric
01:01<gaurav_10>Jb_boin, x86
01:01<Jb_boin>and in your interfaces
01:01<Jb_boin>you specify metric for each interfaces
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01:01<Jb_boin>metric 0 = best priority
01:01<rafaelgp>i will pastebin my interfaces file, just a second
01:02<Jb_boin>so put for exemple metric 5 for the aliases and metric 0 for the main if
01:02<jackyf>gaurav_10: 'gateway' and 'interface' for destination=
01:03<Jb_boin>or you can run a script after ifup that change the default route of the interface with a metric
01:03<gaurav_10>jackyf, ok
01:03<Jb_boin>if you are running amd64 kernel, the ifmetric package is broken since a long time
01:03<Jb_boin>so you have to do this way
01:03<rafaelgp>im running x86
01:03<gaurav_10>jackyf, I have only two fields in destination
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01:04<Jb_boin>then apt-get install ifmetric
01:04<gaurav_10>jackyf, and
01:04<gaurav_10>jackyf, there is no
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01:05<Jb_boin>specifying network in your case is useless
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01:05<Jb_boin>but not a problem
01:06<Jb_boin>just add metric to your interfaces
01:06<jackyf>gaurav_10: oo... that's bad, what if you add it? 'sudo route add default'
01:06<rafaelgp>metric 0, metric 1, metric 2 ?
01:06<gaurav_10>jackyf, it says No such device
01:06<rafaelgp>or just metric 0, metric 1, metric 1 ?
01:07<gaurav_10>jackyf, SIOCADDRT:no such device
01:07<Jb_boin>here is an example
01:08<Jb_boin>default metric = 0
01:08<Jb_boin>(if you dont specify one)
01:08<jackyf>gaurav_10: have your some 'ppp*' devices in 'ip link' output?
01:08<rafaelgp>does metric number by itself mean anything or just when it is related to other interfaces?
01:08<Jb_boin>metric is the priority of a route
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01:09<Jb_boin>if there are 2 or more routes to a destination it will choose by default the ones with the lower metric
01:09<gaurav_10>jackyf, no I dont have .. I was using ppp O eth0
01:09<gaurav_10>thats what I am trying to establish
01:10<rafaelgp>Jb_boin ok, thank you. one more thing: is this a bad error? waiting for interface eth0:0 before doing NFS mounts (warning).
01:10<jackyf>gaurav_10: ok, then... 'sudo route add default dev eth0'?
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01:11<gaurav_10>jackyf, yeah done
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01:12<Jb_boin>rafaelgp, nope
01:12<Jb_boin>not even an error
01:12<jackyf>gaurav_10: and? works now?
01:12<Jb_boin>if you got nfs mount on your fstab then if will wait that eth0 is up before trying to mount them
01:12<gaurav_10>I would have to see plz wait.
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01:12<rafaelgp>Jb_boin ok
01:12<gaurav_10>jackyf, I would disconnect and come back..
01:13<rafaelgp>Jb_boin i think it is working just fine now. thank you! :)
01:13<jackyf>gaurav_10: ack
01:13<Jb_boin>no problem
01:13<rafaelgp>ah, wait. ifconfig is showing all the metrics with value 1
01:13<Jb_boin>i passed so much time with this kind of routing problems that i know them pretty well now
01:13<rafaelgp>shouldnt it be 1, 5, 5 like i set?
01:14<Jb_boin>use ip route
01:14<Jb_boin> nexthop via dev eth0 weight 100
01:14<Jb_boin> nexthop via dev cable2 weight 30
01:14<Jb_boin>default via dev eth0 metric 15
01:14<Jb_boin>default via dev cable2 metric 25
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01:14<Jb_boin>well you wouldnt have nexthop
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01:15<Jb_boin>but you see the different metric after the dev
01:15<locsmif>How do I find out what security problem is addressed by an update from
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01:15<jm_>locklace: by read the DSA it is for
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01:15<jm_>locklace: sorry wrong nick
01:15<jm_>locsmif: ^^^^^
01:15<locsmif>jm_, nvm ;-)
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01:16<locsmif>jm_, I tried to look it up on, couldn't find it
01:16<locsmif>icedove update just got in, but nothing recent on there
01:16<rafaelgp>Jb_boin why chaning /etc/network/interfaces didn't change the metrics at all?
01:17<jm_>locsmif: or subscibe to this list
01:17<locsmif>jm_, yes, but that's from January
01:18<locsmif>Oh, ok, so I guess they only have a fix now
01:18<Jb_boin>rafaelgp, did you install ifmetric and restart networking?
01:18<phorce1>what would you suggest I install on a new Lenny box for someone (a family) I am going to force-feed Linux? The kids are windows users, the parents are absolute non-computer users. I'm giving them a system, I'm NOT paying for a M$ license, so they get Debian. General Internet-over-dialup stuff
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01:19<locsmif>jm_, it doesn't seem that these DSA's relate to this update..
01:19<rafaelgp>Jb_boin i just did and got error messages
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01:20<jm_>locsmif: doh, it goes in the other order:
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01:21<Jb_boin>"Interface 'eth0:0' not existent."
01:21<Jb_boin>are these interfaces working at least :)
01:21<rafaelgp>they were before i installed ifmetric
01:21<rafaelgp>and they are now, even with the error message they are up
01:22<locsmif>jm_, ah, ty!
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01:23<Jb_boin>mhh maybe ifmetric doesnt work well with aliases :)
01:24<rafaelgp>so should i just use ip route then, instead of those aliases?
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01:25<Jb_boin>then if your interface put a line up ip change default via theroute dev eth0:0 metric 25
01:25<Jb_boin>for example
01:25<Jb_boin>just try before to verify its working fine
01:25<Jb_boin>you may need to remove the route and recreate it with the metric
01:25<rafaelgp>right now it is just like this:
01:25<rafaelgp> U 1 0 0 eth0
01:25<rafaelgp> UG 1 0 0 eth0
01:26<Jb_boin>or just dont put gateway in the interface config and add the gateway with ip
01:26<Jb_boin>so it wont automaticilly add gateway
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01:27<Jb_boin>its not clear?
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01:37<rafaelgp>Jb_boin thanks
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01:37<Jb_boin>its working?
01:38<rafaelgp>i didnt do the whole thing yet, gonna read man ip first
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01:38<Jb_boin>dont need :)
01:38<Jb_boin>just do what i told you
01:39<rafaelgp>im working remotely, im afraid that if i mess it up just a little bit i'll end up with no connection to the server and will have to access it locally
01:39<Jb_boin>there is ip route add / ip route change and ip route replace
01:39<Jb_boin>you can just modify the aliases
01:39<Jb_boin>not the main eth0
01:40<rafaelgp>ah true.
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01:41<Jb_boin>well i am not sure on how change work
01:41<Jb_boin>replace add another one so you can delete the old one
01:41<Jb_boin>and add do the same as replace :)
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01:42<rafaelgp>ip addr flush dev eth0:0
01:42<rafaelgp>could i do that?
01:42<Jb_boin>i usually do ip route del than ip route add
01:42<Jb_boin>dont do that
01:42<rafaelgp>i wanna remove the aliases
01:42<Jb_boin>you will reset the if adress
01:43<Jb_boin>then you can
01:43<rafaelgp>eth0:0, eth0:1
01:43<rafaelgp>not eth0
01:43<Jb_boin>ifdown before
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01:43<rafaelgp>ifdown eth0:0 ?
01:43<rafaelgp>it works with aliases?
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01:43<rafaelgp>weird, their still up
01:43<Jb_boin> /etc/init.d/networking stop just do a ifdown on every if
01:43<rafaelgp>i have to flush?
01:44<Jb_boin>still up even in an ifconfig?
01:44<Jb_boin>because an interface can be down but still be configured, so you still can see its ips
01:44<Jb_boin>so as you prefer
01:45<rafaelgp>i did root@storm:/proc/net# ip addr flush dev eth0:1
01:45<rafaelgp>Failed to send flush request: Cannot assign requested address
01:45<Jb_boin>ifdown on aliases works fine here
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01:45<rafaelgp>it bugged mine i guess
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01:46<Jb_boin>its normal with ip
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01:46<Jb_boin>ip see them as eth0 ips
01:46<rafaelgp>i lost connection, lol
01:46<Jb_boin>what have you done?
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01:47<Jb_boin>flushing with ip is never a good idea when you dont know what you are doing
01:47<rafaelgp>i did ifdown eth0:0 and eth0:1
01:47<rafaelgp>and it didnt work
01:47<rafaelgp>so i tried flushin it with ip
01:47<Jb_boin>its how if looks
01:47<Jb_boin>didnt work in what way
01:48<rafaelgp>ifconfig still showed them
01:48<rafaelgp>as running, up..
01:48<Jb_boin>because even a down interface still can be saw in ip addr
01:48<Jb_boin>or ifconfig -a
01:48<rafaelgp>ah, i see.
01:49<Jb_boin>you have regained connction or not?
01:49<rafaelgp>not really.
01:49<rafaelgp>i guess it flushed eth0 entirely, instead of eth0:1
01:50<rafaelgp>i dont think flush works with aliases, just devs.
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01:50<Jb_boin>i can ping and ssh
01:50<Jb_boin>if its your ip
01:51<rafaelgp>im doing it here, it wont go, i think i flushed the whole thing lol
01:51<rafaelgp>no big deal tho, i'll just make an script tonight and set it up locally this morning.
01:52<Jb_boin>you cant ping/ssh the machine?
01:52<Jb_boin>because its working fine here
01:52<rafaelgp>thats a different address
01:52<rafaelgp>i didnt wanna put the real ip on pastebin
01:52<Jb_boin>not the .6 ip
01:52<Jb_boin>only the .3 and .5
01:52<Jb_boin>ah ok
01:53<Jb_boin>but you dont have to remove the ip addr of the aliases to change the route metric
01:53<gaurav_10>jackyf, dint work :(
01:54<rafaelgp>Jb_boin setting the metrics with 'metric #' didn't work, i should have tried with ip
01:54<jackyf>gaurav_10: sorry, I'm out of magic of remote help then
01:54<Jb_boin>its not working this way rafaelgp :)
01:54<Jb_boin>it ip route add default via gatewayip dev device metric themetric
01:55<gaurav_10>jackyf, thanks. np.. buddy
01:55<rafaelgp>Jb_boin i see.
01:55<Jb_boin>you can add the route with metric and delete after the one without metric configured
01:55<rafaelgp>and with the aliases it is the same?
01:55<Jb_boin>or just dont put gateway lines on the interface config file
01:55<Jb_boin>so there wont be default route added automaticilly
01:55<rafaelgp>yep, i did that
01:55<rafaelgp>and it was working ok
01:55<Jb_boin>you put it manually by adding "up ip route..."
01:56<rafaelgp>i kept messing with it and lost connectivity
01:56<Jb_boin>in the interface
01:56<Jb_boin>but just mess with the aliases
01:56<Jb_boin>not the main
01:56<Jb_boin>as the default metric is 0
01:56<rafaelgp>ifconfig was showing 1
01:56<Jb_boin>you dont need to change it for eth0
01:56<Jb_boin>ifconfig is not a serious tool :)
01:56<rafaelgp>ah i see.
01:57<Jb_boin>ip is way more advanced
01:57<rafaelgp>ok, i got you. i'll do what you have said.
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01:57<rafaelgp>will go down by the dc and fix it
01:57<Jb_boin>also harder to use but you can do more things with it
01:57<rafaelgp>thanks :) g2g now
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02:19<Ouro>i am running gnome at a resolution lower than the native resolution of the monitor; for some reason it is not displaying the correctly: the desktop in the top left corner and the background fills the remainer of the screen... i can also move windows outside the desktop area... any hints?
02:21<Ouro>gnome thinks the desktop is 1024x768, but the monitor thinks the input is 1600x1200
02:22<jm_>sounds like virtual is used - why don't you set it to the native res.?
02:22<jm_>'xrandr q' shows what X thinks of it all
02:22<jm_>actualyl just xrandr
02:22<Ouro>well i am using clone between the laptop screen and an external monitor... the laptop screen supports 1024x768 max
02:23<jm_>ahh perhaps it's a limitation of the driver or you just need to configur eit manually
02:24<Ouro>i believe that it worked correctly in etch
02:24<Ouro>(this is lenny now)
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02:24<jm_>etch required xorg.conf, lenny doesn't
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02:25<Ouro>should i just reconfigure xorg then?
02:26<bash>!dpkg ubuntu
02:26<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
02:26<adb>dpkg: tell bash about selftell
02:26<jm_>that's what I would try yes, you should be able to change it with xrandr )or some GUI front-end) on the fly
02:26<Ouro>ok, but i dont quite understand what is happening right now
02:26<bash>!tell me ubuntu
02:27<jm_>check xorg log to see what it found out
02:27<Ouro>xrandr says that VGA is connected at 1920x1200 and LVDS at 1024x768
02:27<bash>dpkg> No, bash, I won't. (target invalid?)
02:27<dpkg>bash: bugger all, i dunno
02:27<jm_>also verify with monitors own idea of the mode
02:27<ml|>bash: /msg dpkg ubunbtu
02:28<adb>heh ubunbtu*
02:28<Ouro>well the monitor thinks it is 1600x1200
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02:29<bash>Ouro: What is it for real?
02:29<ml|>bash: /msg dpkg ubuntu
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02:30<Ouro>i think x is outputting different resolutions on the two cloned monitors... this is possible?
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02:31<Ouro>ah crap, now i killed it :/
02:31<jm_>well sure, that would be natural to use highest res. for each display, but then I would expect different behaviour - i.e. you couldn't move windows to the outer edges
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02:39<Ouro>i did "xrandr -s 1024x768", which turned off the VGA output, and I cannot to bring it back now
02:39<Ouro>e.g. "xrandr --output VGA --mode 1024x768" does nothing
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02:39<jm_>you should use newer options with multiple monitors
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02:40<jm_>it's interesting how man page says when doing -fb all monitors must fit given size, that's so last century
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02:41<Ouro>that is actually what i want
02:42<jm_>yup, you'd be able to set it that way if it allowed different mode for each output anyway
02:44<Ouro>i see what happened
02:44<Ouro>xrandr happily takes monitor names that do not exist :)
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02:48<Ouro>so now that it works, should i configure xorg or just add some xrandr commands into /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
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02:58<k1lumin4t1>any web development tool with html (in all of its variants) support, php support, css editor and ftp built-in client?
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02:59<jm_>did you check in GNOME control center (or wtahever its name is) if you can configure it there instead?
03:03<Ouro>i dont see that application
03:04<Ouro>also, why am i getting errors from wmaster0 when configuring eth0 (not wireless)
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03:08<Ouro>well, good enough for now
03:08<Ouro>thanks for the help
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03:38<Tenguch>Ouro: the gnome-control-center isn't in menu (don't know why....). you can launch it through alt+f2, or via a shell. exact command is : gnome-control-center
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03:39<Ouro>ah yes... well these are all the same options as under the System menu
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04:36<brasidas>can anyone direct me to an iso of debian etch?
04:37<gsimmons>dpkg: tell brasidas -about install etch
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04:40<adama26>Squeeze. my screensaver's quit working. Not sure where to look for errors or output... the process is running
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04:41<brasidas>do all etch releases ship with 2.6.28 kernel?
04:41<brasidas>i meant 2.6.18
04:42<dpkg>Etch is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support will continue until about February 2010; now is the time to start planning your upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Also ask me about <oldstable>, <oldstable security>, <install etch>, <etch release notes>. Currently <4.0r8>.
04:42<jm_>brasidas: you can get updated kernel, see etchnhalf
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04:42<brasidas>no... i don't want updated kernel... I want to use / test /... the 2.6.18 one
04:43<jm_>by default it has 2.6.18
04:43<brasidas>ok, i'm burning the r8 then
04:44<ml|>brasidas: you do realize that support for etch is gone in feb. 2010 , might be better to use lenny
04:45<brasidas>yeap... i know but i have problems with an ibm server
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04:45<externaldrive>Hi All
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04:46<externaldrive>i'm on debian sid based distro, i need a sw ... but unlucky it is not present in the .deb packages resource
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04:47<brasidas>the server supports redhat and suse, redhat ships with 2.6.18 (as far as i know) and the precompiled modules for the NIC are for kernel 2.6.18... so the easiest thing to do is use the same kernel
04:47<gsimmons>externaldrive: Define "sid based distro".
04:47<externaldrive>i wrote build instruction to compile it, how to have added in the debian repository ?
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04:47<externaldrive>i'm on a desktop with 2 partitions, one runs debian sid, an other one runs sidux
04:48<externaldrive>in both distro the app i nedd iss not in the repository .. but all its dependencies are in it ...
04:48<tessal>i'm running av linux 2.0 good distro,like it a lot
04:50<externaldrive>shoul'd be wonder to have it added in the repository .. i'm able to offer myself to provide logs, test and description for the build procedure
04:51<jm_>brasidas: actually that might not work
04:52<brasidas>anything else didn't
04:52<brasidas>i installed various versions / architectures of debian
04:53<brasidas>the debian module (bnx2) didn't work
04:53<jm_>even same kernel version will have different patches for different distributions, not to mention kernel options, compiler version ...
04:53<brasidas>i was thinking -f option
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04:55<brasidas>kernel panicked most of the time (mainly on lenny) and today i noticed that redhat's latest kernel is 2.6.18
04:56<Tenguch>hm... for bnx2, you have to install firmwares...
04:56<brasidas>i did that
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04:56<brasidas>also build the modul
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04:57<Tenguch>we have avout 15 servers here, with lenny... and bnx2. no problem at all.
04:57<brasidas>are the Broadcom Nics integrated?
04:57<brasidas>5709 ones?
04:57<Tenguch>dell poweredge.
04:57<Tenguch>09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
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04:58<Tenguch>nope. even the most recent is a bcm5708
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04:58<brasidas>i ll go buy one of these... :)
04:58<Tenguch>brasidas: maybe there's a problem with your specific model...
04:58<justfil>How can I add link to a program to be opened by entering its name (like firefox, vlc, etc..)
04:58<brasidas>my best guess is that there is something strange in IBM architecture
04:59<Tenguch>brasidas: fyi : Product Name: PowerEdge 2950
04:59<brasidas>thank you Tenguch
04:59<brasidas>mine is IBM x3850 M2
04:59<Tenguch>we also have to HP... wait
05:00<Tenguch>oh... also 08 : 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
05:00<brasidas>onboard NIC are discovered the same way as pci ones right?
05:00<Tenguch>brasidas: Product Name: ProLiant DL380 G5
05:00<Tenguch>brasidas: yep.
05:00<Tenguch>brasidas: but I think they are discovered after PCI devices...
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05:00<dpkg>[bnx2] The driver for Broadcom NetXtreme II 1Gb (BCM5706/5708/5709/5716) NIC chipsets. Disabled in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.23-1 due to embedded binary-only firmware. Enabled again in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.24-7, install the <non-free> 'firmware-bnx2' package (lenny, etchnhalf) to enable driver use. If required, ask me about <installer firmware> to provide bnx2 firmware files, for device use at Debian installation time. See also <bcm5716>, <bnx2x>.
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05:02<brasidas>interesting... so i can try to use the module during the installation? (with the firmware at a usb device or something?)
05:02<Tenguch>brasidas: right
05:02<Tenguch>brasidas: I use an USB key, with just firmware on it.
05:03<Tenguch>as we're installing through netinstall, we just have to do this. you plug the key when asked, and it's done.
05:03<brasidas>etch installer supports usb? or only floppies? (sorry if the question is stupid)
05:03<jm_>it does
05:03<justfil>How can I add link to a program to be opened by entering its name in the run dialog - alt+f2 (like firefox, vlc, etc..)
05:04<brasidas>it should have ONLY firmware files?
05:04<jm_>justfil: it has to be in your path
05:04<brasidas>.deb files or unpacked debs?
05:04<Tenguch>brasidas: unpacked deb. it's what I use...
05:05<gsimmons>brasidas: For your information, the bnx2 driver in Etch's 2.6.18 kernel does not support the 5709. The bnx2 factoid above concerns installations involving Lenny (and to a lesser extent, etchnhalf).
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05:05<brasidas>lenny kernels panic...
05:05<brasidas>used noapic nolapic
05:05<Tenguch>brasidas: oh? nice... the amd64 generic one ?
05:05<brasidas>amd64 (also tried 686 one)
05:06<jm_>so why not use something newer than what lenny provides then?
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05:07<brasidas>you mean install a newer kernel on lenny?
05:07<Wolfie001>gi, i was just wondering that channle i mite go to to get some help with installing freeside on a ubuntu server 8.10 box
05:07<jm_>use a newer kernel with lenny
05:07<ml|>like from bpo perhaps
05:07<gsimmons>Wolfie001: #ubuntu on
05:07<Wolfie001>gsimmons thank you :)
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05:08<petern>"mite" :o
05:08<brasidas>i was trying to make this thing work as fast as possible so I didn't try to test other kernels... i just found a distro that worked and tried to make the NIC come to life
05:08<jm_>yeah they probably carry patches for it
05:09<brasidas>the distros that worked were etch ones (amd64) and a sidux one
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05:10<jm_>ahh I thougth RH works too but I see you just said it has precompiled driver
05:11<brasidas>there are also source rpms
05:11<brasidas>i could unpack those and compile them
05:11<jm_>yup, if you know it works that should be OK too
05:12<brasidas>the broadcom official source doesn't compile in newer (2.6.30) and doesn't work on older...
05:12<jm_>they josy of out of tree driver - nvidia also breaks with pretty much every release nowadays
05:12<brasidas>should i also patch pci.ids? or isn't it important?
05:13<brasidas>when i say doesn't work i mean that there are no error messages... (strange) or no other messages from the module
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05:15<brasidas>shouldn't lspci display an unknown device? (the broadcom nic)
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05:16<brasidas>discover command displays a lot of unknown devices
05:17<craigevil> /kernel/drivers/net/bnx2.ko
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05:17<brasidas>craigevil: i know... it does nothing for me
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05:18<brasidas>with firmware installed
05:19<brasidas>i decided that if until tomorrow it doesn't work I'll go and buy a cheap pci-e nic
05:20<craigevil>brasidas: what debian release are you using?
05:20<brasidas>i used etch release (and etch and half)
05:21<brasidas>every time the bnx2 module didn't work
05:21<brasidas>i build the source from broadcom
05:21<brasidas>and still nothing
05:21<craigevil>have you tried the kmuto lenny installer
05:21<brasidas>what is that? i don't know
05:21<dpkg>For lenny (or etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files (in 0627 images) are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of
05:21<brasidas>oh, yes
05:22<brasidas>i also used those
05:22<brasidas>(some of them)
05:22<brasidas>the other strange thing i found at that site is:
05:23<brasidas>it says that the nic works with 2.6.29 kernels????
05:23<brasidas>is it possible?
05:24<craigevil>brasidas: is this for a server or a desktop?
05:24<brasidas>ibm x3850 m2
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05:25<craigevil>ah crap if it was being used as a desktop i would suggest that you install testing and try a liquorix kernel
05:28<brasidas>i'm willing to try anything
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05:31<brasidas>i also thought of using ndiswrapper (just a thought but i changed my mind instantly)
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05:34<justfil>I'm trying to mount ntfs partition at startup, using ntfs-3g so i placed "ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/archive -o force" in Sessions but when i restart nothing happens.
05:35<brasidas>the firmware debs i find are for specific kernel versions... could this be the problem? i mean it's just firmware, is it kernel dependent?
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05:38<debam>hi enouf ,what is role of /lib/lsb/init-functions while booting?
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05:41<debam>hi to all,while booting i am getting error for /etc/init.d/rc running at stty onlcr 0>&1 segmentation fault
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05:46<enouf>debam: why addressed to me? and have you read that file?
05:48<enouf>debam: file:///usr/share/doc/lsb-base/README.Debian.gz
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06:18<Dj_Roberts>Hello again :)
06:19<Dj_Roberts>Can someone help me with Fat32 mounting?
06:19<Dj_Roberts>I would priciate that
06:20<Torsten_W>Dj_Roberts, where is the problem?
06:20<Dj_Roberts>well i got AES encrypted fat32 partition :> and i cant get it mounted :> lol, i searched google all day
06:20<Dj_Roberts>just installed debian
06:21<jm_>debian has loop-aes stuff
06:21<Dj_Roberts>well im linux newbie :/
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06:22<Dj_Roberts>ok, honsetly this is my second week with linux :D
06:22<_paladin_>how to scale object in qcad? i can't set the center after selection
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06:22<Torsten_W>_paladin_, here is #debian, not #qcad
06:23<Dj_Roberts>Torsten_W, maybe i can format that partition somehow?
06:23<Dj_Roberts>information there is unnesecary to stay alive
06:23<Torsten_W>Dj_Roberts, sure
06:23<Dj_Roberts>with what kinda tool i can do that?
06:23<Torsten_W>Dj_Roberts, but you should paste the partitiontable on a pastebin
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06:24<jm_>mkfs.vfat if you want to make vfat fs on it
06:24<panv>what is the best way of making a folder unaccessible, and making it send a 'corrupt' message.
06:24<Dj_Roberts>great i understud only few words from what u sayd :D
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06:25<Torsten_W>Dj_Roberts, i will see the output of fdisk -l
06:26<Dj_Roberts>as far as i know that partition that i need to get to work with debi is /dev/hdb1
06:27<vvas>panv: why would you want to do that?
06:27<Torsten_W>Dj_Roberts, what's unclear on "i will see the output of fdisk -l"?
06:27<vvas>Dj_Roberts: do you care about the partition being seen by other operating systems too?
06:28<panv>an employee of my company has stolen critical information from my management.
06:28<Dj_Roberts>vvas nope. i just want to get it mounted on debian :) thats my target
06:28<panv>we don't want him to know that we know he did it.
06:28<panv>but we don't want him to access this info as well.
06:28<panv>so i thought, maybe i can corrupt the files, and tell him it was a virus from my flash...
06:28<Dj_Roberts>Torsten_W, pardon me, my english is quite bad, so i could missundertand u :)_
06:29<panv>any better option ?
06:29<panv>vvas ?
06:30<Dj_Roberts>well u could write script to mess up the information file source codes, like , implemeting some kind of unnesecary stuff there :) if possible panv
06:30<vvas>panv, no idea
06:30<panv>since i am a debian user, i am used to get help from here that's all.. but the employee's OS is windoze..
06:30<panv>i don't know how to do it Dj_Roberts ...
06:30<panv>any guidance ? please ??
06:30<vvas>panv: but the operating system does not flag files as corrupted, i mean, if something messes up the contents, it's still a file just like any other...
06:31<panv>ya, but the important is , he won't be able to access the info..
06:31<Dj_Roberts>vvas he could mess up with coding, scramble the sorce binaries :)
06:31<panv>he will see the files there... but won't access them.
06:31<vvas>Dj_Roberts: well there are two aspects on it: (a) create a filesystem on the partition, and (b) choose a mount point and mount it there
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06:32<vvas>panv: well you can just change the permissions of the files
06:32<Dj_Roberts>vvas i better take B . can u explain how to do that? :D well im good in win sistems but absolute noob in linux :)
06:32<vvas>panv: or add the appropriate Access Control Lists
06:33<vvas>Dj_Roberts: no, you need both :^)
06:33<panv>it's on windows OS.
06:33<Dj_Roberts>panv try ddos attack and maybe just kill his pc? :D isnt it just easyer to replace files with fake ones? :)
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06:33<vvas>panv: well then panv, as many people in here, i have no idea how you'd do it
06:33<panv>i can always use a hammer... and crush the hell of his PC
06:33<Dj_Roberts>vvas great, im confused now.
06:33<panv>it's alright.
06:34<vvas>panv: and this probably isn't the right place to ask
06:34<panv>thanks anyway...
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06:34<panv>have fun all...
06:34<vvas>Dj_Roberts: a sec, i'll be back
06:34<Dj_Roberts>vvas ok
06:34<Dj_Roberts>panv c ya
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06:36<ml|>Dj_Roberts: on gnome?
06:36<vvas>so, as i was saying
06:37<ml|>gparted can take care of a for you
06:37<vvas>to use a partition, first of all it needs to have a filesystem on it that your operating system recognises
06:37<vvas>and second, you need to tell your operating system to actually use it
06:37<Dj_Roberts>my os is lenny :)
06:37<vvas>yes, i'm just putting it into abstract term
06:38<ml|>edit /etc/fstab for 'b'
06:38<vvas>the specific terms are what i had written above
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06:38<Dj_Roberts>ok. so as far as i know i need to format that partition... right?
06:39<Dj_Roberts>and then mount it
06:40<vvas>see ml|'s suggestions for each
06:40<ml|>create a mount point also
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06:40<Dj_Roberts>still i dont hawe a clue how to do it. console isnt my strong side
06:41<ml|>dpkg: tell Dj_Roberts about gparted
06:42<ml|> or aptitude
06:42<ml|>dpkg: tell Dj_Roberts about why aptitude
06:42<ml|>Dj_Roberts: do you have a live cd?
06:43<Dj_Roberts>nope, on this sistem i dont hawe even cdroom
06:44<Dj_Roberts>which is better, ext2 or 3?
06:45<ml|>best to this with live cd, but install gparted i would use ext3
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06:46<Dj_Roberts>yay, i formated and it now shows as free disk on my computer :) but...
06:46<Dj_Roberts>it says i hawe no privilegies to acces it :)
06:46<Torsten_W>man chown, man chmod
06:47<Dj_Roberts>dont be mean
06:48<ml|>did you mount it?
06:48<Dj_Roberts>i think so :) it asks me to remount it :) how?
06:49<ml|>create a mountpoint in /mnt/ as root
06:49<ml|>or where you like
06:50<Dj_Roberts>ok how to do that? :D im noob, remember? :D
06:50<Dj_Roberts>with what command
06:50<Dj_Roberts>i mean
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06:50<vvas>a mountpoint is just a directory/folder...
06:50<ml|>so as root mkdir -p /mnt/your-name here
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06:51<Dj_Roberts>done. next? :)
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06:52<ml|>as root open /etc/fstab to edit with your fav editor or jus do nano /etc/fstab as root
06:54<ml|>do you know the /dev name like /dev/sda1
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06:55<ml|>ok have fstab open for editing?
06:55<Dj_Roberts>yes i do :)
06:55<ml|>so in proc place device like above but yours of course ...
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06:56<Dj_Roberts>take a look on query window :)
06:57<ml|>Dj_Roberts: please ask before doing that
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06:57<ml|>and best to keep doing it here
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06:57<vvas>Dj_Roberts: at this point it's best to consult the fstab(5) manual page
06:58<vvas>and then ask if you still don't get the format of the file
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06:58<Dj_Roberts>great, looks like its all done :) thank u all, it works now :)
06:58<ml|>!congratulate Dj_Roberts
06:58<dpkg>Hugs & Puppies Dj_Roberts, you did it!
06:59<Dj_Roberts>he he :D good
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07:00<ml|>Dj_Roberts: want some info, to learn a bit about linux?
07:01<Dj_Roberts>it would be good :) as far as i think to stay with linux :)
07:01<enouf>ml|: you're giving out free information!? how dare you!
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07:01<Dj_Roberts>enouf, calm down, its for scientific reasons :)
07:02<Dj_Roberts>ok, brb :)
07:02<ml|>Dj_Roberts: do /msg dpkg grounding /msg dpkg dpkgbot /msg dpkg selftell /msg dpkg unix lessons /msg dpkg refrence <--- those should get you started
07:02<ml|>enouf: hah
07:03<Dj_Roberts>thanx :)
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07:03<Gekz>ml|: reference*
07:03<ml|>enouf: btw are you using kde?
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07:03<ml|>Gekz: yes oops
07:04<ml|>lol he left
07:04<craigevil>ml|: no he doesnt
07:04<enouf>ml|: no friggin way
07:05<ml|>the above won't do him any good now, wonder where he thinks those commands go
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07:05<ml|>haha ok!
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07:05<craigevil>kde3.5 was ok, kde4 is just plain evil
07:05<enouf>ml|: links2 with openbox and xterms, and some IW
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07:05<enouf>and irssi
07:05<ml|>enouf: nice openbox is nice :)
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07:06<ml|>enouf: give xmonad a try ;)
07:06<enouf>ml|: it'd be nicer when i teach myself and create my own config :-P
07:06*enouf might
07:06<ml|>enouf: xml ftw :)
07:06<enouf>!shoot ml|
07:06*dpkg blows ml| away with an Uzi
07:07<ml|>openbox wiki can help you with that, but why bother start using xmonad i can help you with that a bit
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07:34<Flakk>Hi people, I have just installed the "pppoeconf", everything works fine, however the program does not want to launch the connection from the "user" account, so that each time I must start it from "root". I understand that I should add the user in question to some group like "dip". However I do not remember at all how to do this. Any help? - thanks
07:35<jackyf>Flakk: try 'man usermod', or just call 'adduser <user> dip'
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07:37<Flakk>jackyf - thanx! trying
07:37<jackyf>Flakk: don't forget to re-login after that
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07:38<Flakk>jackyf: that is what i am doing - the problem was at each new login
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07:41<jackyf>dpkg: greet urbinek
07:41<dpkg>Welcome, urbinek
07:42<Flakk>jackyf: thanx!! it works
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07:42<jackyf>Flakk: :)
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07:43<urbinek>i have problem ith text procesing in bash ...
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07:44<urbinek>how to delete from file \[ENTER][SPACE][SPACE][SPACE][SPACE]
07:44<Jb_boin>sed s
07:44<urbinek>tr -d '\\[:space:]' removes all spaces
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07:46<urbinek>Jb_boin: how it chould look like ?
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07:47<Nazcafan>I just tried to upgrade xorg to the unstable version
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07:47<Nazcafan>it's a freaking hell, crashing my machine big time
07:49<ml|>Nazcafan: bad idea
07:49<Nazcafan>I saw that
07:50<Nazcafan>ml|, how do unstable people do?
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07:51<ml|>sorry don't understand your question
07:52<Nazcafan>how can they manage with a broken xorg?
07:52<amphi>perhaps you need to use sid's kernel too? I guess
07:53<ml|>what release are you using?
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07:56<Nazcafan>but I use a quite recent kernel
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07:58<ml|>there is a reason why it is called unstable, did it bring in all depencies a long with sid xorg
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08:04<Nazcafan>ml|, yes
08:04<Flakk>unstablepeople use unstable distributions, stable ones use stables distribs, sarge people use sarge
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08:08<Gekz>that was an intelligent hypothesis.
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08:09<ml|>Nazcafan: check your logs and bts, for next time before installing stuff from sid check bts for any known bugs/issues
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08:11<ml|>atleast you know going in what you are dealing with
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08:11<Nazcafan>ml|, I have, but couldn't find any bug related to my hardware
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08:18<urbinek>what should i type insteed of XX to generate unique IP adres for each changes line ?
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08:21<jm_>urbinek: you can use for/while loop in shell, or seq
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08:22<urbinek>jm_: i know, i'm just wondering is there any sed way to do it :)
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08:23<jm_>urbinek: there is, but it's much much simpler if you do it in shell and pass variable in shell script
08:23<jm_>in sed script even
08:24<ju>I want use the wake up on lan possibility, but I can not. My network card is compatible, and I use the wakeonlan perl script, in local. But my computer does not turn on!
08:25<ju>Does anyone have any idea ?
08:25<E0x>ju: you need enable it in bios
08:25<E0x>i guess
08:25<urbinek>jm_ i see
08:25<gsimmons>ju: See also
08:26<ju>E0x: Yes, I've done, and my network card is lit when my computer is down.
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08:28<ju>gsimmons: thanks, I look
08:28<E0x>urbinek: maybe using regex something like s/10.0.0\.[0-255]+/10.0\./
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08:28<E0x>but i not sure about that
08:28<E0x>i am really bad at regex
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08:29<jm_>maybe you need to use different WOL method since there are several
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08:38<ju>I made everything as the debian wiki WakeOnLan page, but it not works.... my network card is lit, « etherwake -D » say « Sendto worked! » but no..
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08:41<gsimmons>ju: Try setting the value of NETDOWN to no in /etc/init.d/halt, to prevent halt(8) being called with -i.
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08:45<urbinek>jm_: with what i can change text in single line ?
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08:45<urbinek>sorry, not jm_.. all
08:46<jm_>urbinek: well sed is very useful for this , or perl
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08:48<urbinek>hmm, quick guide how please ? my boss is gonna eat me xdD
08:48<jm_>give us more details, i.e. you want to change line from "..." to "..."
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08:49<KurtKraut>I'm getting this when I attempt a apt-get update: W: GPG error: lenny/updates Release: As assinaturas a seguir não puderam ser verificadas devido à chave pública não estar disponível: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B
08:49<KurtKraut>How do I fix it?
08:49<gsimmons>dpkg: tell KurtKraut -about new archive key
08:49<ju>gsimmons: I made it, but it not works. Because my network card is lit when my computer is turn off, I think that the network card is ready, no ?
08:49<jm_>KurtKraut: do you have debian keyring installed?
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08:51<KurtKraut>jm_, gsimmon, let me check...
08:51<ml|>!apt-key 9AA38DCD55BE302B
08:51<dpkg>gpg --keyserver --recv-keys 9AA38DCD55BE302B ; gpg --export 9AA38DCD55BE302B | sudo apt-key add -
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08:52<flexy>I updated sid yesterday, today it does not boot anymore. Don't get a console, single mode stucks at the same point. 2.6.30 and 2.6.26 kernels behave the same. The last line on the display:"Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done."
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08:52<flexy>nothing after that. Am I alone with this? Any ideas?
08:54<gsimmons>ju: What is the network card in the target system? (e.g. lspci -nn | grep Ether)
08:54<flexy>magic sysrq Sync command causes the usual response, so it's not totally stuck.
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08:57<urbinek>jm_: sorry wor wait,
08:59<ju>gsimmons: 01:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (CNR) Ethernet Controller [8086:103a] (rev 82)
08:59<KurtKraut>gsimmons, jm_ Installing debian-archive-keyring fixed the issue. Thanks for your help.
08:59<jm_>urbinek: but why would "adress=10.10.[1-3].[1-252]" do? you want address= address= ... or what?
08:59<jm_>KurtKraut: np
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09:00<jm_>urbinek: on the same line or what?
09:00<ju>gsimmons: it's an integrated network card, and i use the BIOS option "Wake up On Lan"
09:00<urbinek>i've got file with 1500 record in that form
09:01<jm_>ok, and you need to change them in sequence? IP's don't matter?
09:01<urbinek>its 1 entry in 4 lines
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09:01<urbinek>dont, it's only neet to be set up for dhcp
09:02<urbinek>there must be cuple of special IP for users but it won't be more than 10 and i'll change it with yorokonde
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09:03<jm_>urbinek: try this -- for a in {1..3}; do for b in {1..252}; do sed "s/add /add address=10.10.${a}.${b} /" filename; done; done
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09:03<jm_>check if it works as you want by saving to temp file
09:05<urbinek>filename is input file ?
09:05<urbinek>and how should look input IP adres mask ?
09:05<urbinek>10.10.XXX.XXX as in example ?
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09:06<urbinek>i thing i get it
09:06<jm_>it does what you asked for - replace "add " with "add address=foo "
09:06<jm_>now if you need something different ...
09:07<urbinek>no no
09:07<urbinek>i look wrong at it :)
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09:15<urbinek>its creating something wrong
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09:17<jm_>urbinek: your file format is different then
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10:02<c0debreaker-fr->i meet a ruby problem
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10:06<sarc_3>how do i apply a patch to a Makefile?
10:06<sarc_3>i have the patch and the Makefile but im not familiar with applying it
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10:42<setog3>hi, after where and how go the differents packages ? how many time before to see them into ?
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10:50<Gekz>that is crazy complex
10:51<setog3>bzed: ok, but in we can read that for example kde4libs_4.2.96-1_multi.changes is INSTALL to experimental, and is in the pool, but when I fetched, I can't see this package (I am sure it will appear in some minutes) but now where is the package ? on a private ftp master only avaiable for primary mirrors ?
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10:52<klh>hi, last few days I sometimes get this message that appears in my tty - - I do not know where it comes from, if someone has an idea...
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10:55<setog3>Ganneff: ok so the "life" of a package is : -> -> secret server (maybee ??) -> primary mirros -> all mirors ?
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11:01<ravi>i need desktop features
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11:28*Lethalman_ wonders why debootstrap sid created a lenny chroot!!!
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11:35<Guest1003>Anyone around today?
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11:36<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:36<Guest1003>How do i determint the total files and directories on a hd?
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11:38<nomadium>Guest1003: with find
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11:38<cahoot>meaning total number and/or size?
11:38<murisfurder>i'm digging through the udeb packages of the installer and i see references to debconf keys such as "db_metaget apt-setup/use/cd description"
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11:39<Guest1003>total number
11:39<murisfurder>but where are the actual debconf values initialy set
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11:41<rudi_s>Guest1003: find / | wc -l
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11:41<rudi_s>(Not sure if it's save with files with special characters like newlines in it, but should be a fair approximation.)
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11:47<kop>Yesterday I got some messages that included "Release: The
11:47<kop>following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9AA38DCD55BE302B Debian Archive
11:48<kop>Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny)" When doing an aptitude safe-update. I don't see anything on What's the story?
11:49<kop>(Of course now, after an "aptitude update" the message has gone away.)
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11:52<Guest1003>I copied files/folders from one hd to a folder on another hd Is there a way to determine if all the files were copied?
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11:58<kop>Guest1003 : diff or cmp
11:58<kop>Guest1003 : (diff -ruN ...)
11:59<Guest1003>hi kop i'm new to linux
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12:10<kop>Guest1003 : Useful references are as follows:
12:10<dpkg>Before asking in here or on the debian-user mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. Ask me about <ig>, <reference>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference)
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12:14<dre>hey all i am new to this so how is it going
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12:34<Lomion>Evening lads
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12:35<rocky>ohai Lomion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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12:36<rocky>willsee stoern
12:36<rocky>!seen stoern
12:36<dpkg>rocky: i haven't seen 'stoern'
12:36<rocky>dang it.... what was his name
12:36<ju>it's not LaTeX
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12:36<rocky>did we have a netsplit earlier?
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12:37<rocky>!seen LaTeX
12:37<dpkg>i haven't seen 'latex', rocky
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12:37<rocky>!seen stoeren
12:37<dpkg>stoeren <> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 17h 13m 30s ago, saying: 'and lenny is a bad idea too'.
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12:47<beer_>How good is the kde 4.3 rc 2 from experimental?
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12:48<chealer>beer_: ask #debian-kde
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12:49<rocky>beer_, I wouldn't use release candidates personally....
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13:16<kuneli>i need to change my screen res from800x600 to 1024x768
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13:27<Administrator>hello guys I am using debian 5.0.0 lenny. I am trying to establish the pppoe connection using rp-pppoe . It says connected but still I am not able to ping or browse any ip.
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13:39<Apache>Hello! I'm just installed Debian Lenny 5.0.2 amd64 and configured Internet connection (VPN PPTP)...And I have a question. How autoconnect VPN connection when it's down?
13:39<loudergood>network manager?
13:40<Apache>with configure files...
13:40<Apache>in /etc folder...
13:41<loudergood>do not know
13:41<Apache>case "$1" in
13:41<Apache>echo -n "Starting vpn: "
13:41<Apache>pon vpn
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13:43<Apache>Have you any ideas?
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13:45<jackyf>Apache: ppp has /etc/ppp/ip-down.d, but i'm not sure if this related to VPN handling
13:46<Administrator>hello guys I am using debian 5.0.0 lenny. I am trying to establish the pppoe connection using rp-pppoe . It says connected but still I am not able to ping or browse any ip.
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13:52<Apache>'s really for VPN....but I'm not strong in script writing....
13:53<gsimmons>Apache: You might be interested in the persist and maxfail options ; man 8 pppd
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13:54<Apache>gsimmons: thanks
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13:56<chealer>Administrator: you already wrote that
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13:57<Apache><gsimmons>: yes...really... /etc/ppp/ip-down
13:57<Apache> A program or script which is executed when the link is no longer
13:57<Apache> available for sending and receiving IP packets. This script can
13:57<Apache> be used for undoing the effects of the /etc/ppp/ip-up and
13:57<Apache> /etc/ppp/ip-pre-up scripts. It is invoked in the same manner
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14:02<icarus>how do i do a debian network install of lenny for a amd 64
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14:04<jackyf>icarus: download the netinstall image, boot, install the base system, connect to internet, install the rest you need
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14:04<icarus>what common problems do people run into with that method
14:05<Apache><gsimmons>: yes...I'm solved my problem - for autoconnection I'm must to create script for VPN connection and place it to ip-down folder:)))
14:05<riomare1>i did it yesterday its no problem
14:05<dominique>Hi! I wish to run a server which uses port 27015 for incoming messages. It reports an error saying "Couldn't allocate dedicated server port". How do i go about it?
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14:05<icarus>and my options for partitng
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14:06<riomare1>guided is good
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14:06<dominique>Hi! I wish to run a server which uses port 27015 for incoming messages. It reports an error saying "Couldn't allocate dedicated server port". How do i go about it?
14:06<icarus>what is a guided install
14:06<riomare1>it makes partitions...
14:07<riomare1>based on ur size of disk
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14:07<icarus>sorry total newfag here
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14:08<icarus>ok thanks cahoot
14:08<Apache>How to update my system? I'm must just use in terminal command: aptitude dist-update?
14:08<riomare1>whats with the iceweasel ?
14:08<riomare1>why not mozilla FF?
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14:08<Apache>or debian has automatic update?
14:08<jackyf>Apache: ehm, just read the docs, particularly, APT How-To
14:09<riomare1>man apt in console
14:09<Apache>yes.....I did....
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14:09<dominique>Hi! I wish to run a server which uses port 27015 for incoming messages. It reports an error saying "Couldn't allocate dedicated server port". How do i go about it?
14:10<Lomion>Somebody is playing counter-strike!
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14:11<riomare1>can any1 help me with installing google earth on amd 64?
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14:12<Lomion>riomare1, what's the problem?
14:12<riomare1> error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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14:14<riomare1>Lomion, i get this msg when i do sudo sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
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14:15<stroyan>riomare1: See for pointers to required packages.
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14:16<riomare1>thx m8
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14:18<Administrator_>hello guys I am using debian 5.0.0 lenny. I am trying to establish the pppoe connection using rp-pppoe . It says connected but still I am not able to ping or browse any ip.
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14:21<kuneli>i need to change my screen res from800x600 to 1024x768
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14:24<murisfurder>kuneli ok go do so?
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14:24<dominique>hi! how do i open a UDP Socket/
14:24<dominique>hi! how do i open a UDP Socket?
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14:25<jetftwi>I want to configure a new mail server which do you suggest among the choices I want it to be ldap enabled much more you know better
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14:25<murisfurder>jetftwi either exim or postfix
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14:26<murisfurder>define mailserver
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14:26<Administrator_>hello guys I am using debian 5.0.0 lenny. I am trying to establish the pppoe connection using rp-pppoe . It says connected but still I am not able to ping or browse any ip.
14:27<murisfurder>Administrator_ didnt your mother tell you not to go on irc as root
14:28<jetftwi>how about among them exim4 is installed by default but how about if I switch to postifix because I have seen a drawbacks on exim like it't security is low to medium but future medium to high on the web
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14:28<Administrator_>murisfurder, your mother told me yes
14:29<murisfurder>My mother is dead, you insensitive clod
14:29<Administrator_>murisfurder, oh i am sorry..
14:29<Administrator_>murisfurder, this is a temporary nick..
14:29<rocky>!seen stoeren
14:29<dpkg>stoeren <> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 19h 5m 34s ago, saying: 'and lenny is a bad idea too'.
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14:30<murisfurder>jetftwi well, a mailserver comprises of a MTA, MDA, AV, Spam filter etc etc etc
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14:34<Administrator_>hello guys I am using debian 5.0.0 lenny. I am trying to establish the pppoe connection using rp-pppoe . It says connected but still I am not able to ping or browse any ip.
14:34<Alexander>Hy guys, I have a problem with apache2-mpm-worker, it's crashing when I try authenticate a user with htaccess
14:35<Alexander>my httpd.conf has configured AllowOverride AuthConfig
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14:37<Alexander>I used this ressource a long time an'never had problem, but now my apache has a SegFault when I used it
14:37<Alexander>can someone help-me?
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14:37<murisfurder>Alexander check out #apache on freenode
14:38<Alexander>murisfurder, thanks
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14:43<Apache>Why Firefox is not availabled in Debian's repositoies?
14:43<rudi_s>!tell Apache about firefox
14:44<Apache>Firefox is opensource?
14:44<murisfurder>Apache: because mozilla hates your freedom
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14:45<jackyf>Apache: if you were just done 'apt-cache firefox', you'll be presented of a package....
14:45<jackyf>*apt-cache search firefox
14:45<murisfurder>actually it's been renamed to iceweasel
14:45<murisfurder>it's just a trademark issue, codebase is nearly identical
14:46<murisfurder>but not entirely synced to the upstream sourcetree so therefore its not allowed to be called firefox
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14:49<Apache>but what's really better?
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14:49<rudi_s>Apache: Both should be the same, but on Debian you use Iceweasel ;-)
14:49<Apache>firefox or iceweasel...
14:49<tarzeau>Apache: same shit
14:50<tarzeau>anything's better than mozilla software. seriously
14:50<Apache><rudi_s> ))
14:50<murisfurder>i've grown quite fond of it
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14:50<Apache><tarzeau> why?
14:51<tarzeau>crashes several times a day, is slow, doesn't do animated mouse cursors and is leaking memory
14:51<Schizoid>Hello! I am trying to install lenny, but the installer always hangs at the same spot:
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14:51<tarzeau>Schizoid: tried kmutos installer?
14:51<dpkg>For lenny (or etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files (in 0627 images) are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of
14:51<rudi_s>tarzeau: I also don't like it. Do you have suggestions for a better browser? (I already use elinks but for images I need a graphical one).
14:52<tarzeau>rudi_s: i use safari or internet explorer (via rdesktop)
14:52<tarzeau>rudi_s: links2 -g
14:52<Schizoid>tarzeau: that is actually what I am using :o
14:52<Apache><tarzeau>: leaking memory - i'm really it's observed...
14:52<rudi_s>tarzeau: Hm, free source if possible. But I could try links2, thanks.
14:52<tarzeau>rudi_s: there's also the webcore based ones, they are good
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14:54<tarzeau>rudi_s: free source? heck i even like better than mozilla/firefox/iceweasel
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15:01<leikh>Can I give a specific user read access to whole system, but limit write access (as regular user)?
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15:05<dkr>leikh: that's usually the default setup
15:06<dkr>oh, well, not exactly
15:06<leikh>dkr: nope...
15:06<leikh>leikh: logfiles
15:06<dkr>more accurately, you want to deny read access to all but that user
15:07<dkr>so do it with group permissions? and just put that one user in the group and make everything group readable and not world readable
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15:08<leikh>or can sudoers be more specific?
15:09<dkr>interesting idea. maybe give that user permission to run less /var/log/*
15:09<dkr>but you can laucnh vi from less, so it'd be a security hole. heh
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15:10<leikh>we don't want holes...
15:10<dkr>let him run cat via sudoers and he can pipe into his own pager? sudo cat /var/log/syslog|less
15:11<dpkg>i guess acl is Access Control List,,, at
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15:15<leikh>I think I'll just jail every shell user, and let cron copy log files to that specific users homedir...
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15:16<petemc>the adm group is for reading logfiles
15:17<leikh>petemc: but adm group can write as well?
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15:18<leikh>petemc: Excellent!
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15:37<lomion_>Sorry chaps, router's going apeshit
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15:37<lomion_>Should be alright
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15:40<Schizoid>i got it to work with pci=nomsi pci=noacpi nolapic noapic acpi=off
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15:41<Schizoid>do these options only affect the installation instance, or will they affect the installed system too?
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15:45<LeoLolo>I made some blocks by extension, but would like some sites do not apply that rule, if the site is where the antivirus updates, as I do?
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15:47<dkr>LeoLolo: you ar emissing some context. are you talking about a mail filter? web site? firewall?
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15:47<sney`>Schizoid: maybe, maybe not. depends on how different the kernel is.
15:48<LeoLolo>dkr I'm filtering by squid, I want some sites do not apply to this rule
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15:50<oo-dragon>does any one know how to config lcd4linux here? ^)^
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16:24<firefox>warning, dumb question: why isn't there a bigmem kernel for amd64?
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16:29<Gaiver69>ìîæåò êòî íèáóäü ïîìî÷ü íà÷èíàþùåìó ïîëüçîâàòåëü Äåáèàí èç Ðîññèè?
16:29<sney`>firefox: because huge amounts of memory are supported by default when you're using 64-bit.
16:29<sney`>64-bit bigmem would be something like "enable 1,000,000 terabyte support"
16:30<sney`>Gaiver69: english?
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16:30<Gaiver69>ÿ ïëîõî ïîíèìàþ ïî àíãëèéñêè, êðàéíå ïëîõî...
16:31<sney`>your encoding is broken, I can't even tell what language you're speaking
16:31<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @
16:31<sney`>that would have been my first guess though
16:32<stew>we probably should get a translation of that in koi-8
16:32<sney`>not a bad idea
16:33<sney`>unicode cyrillic too maybe
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16:40<user458>hello. can anyone help me setup my printer
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16:48<dimmer>Hi all - I'm having some trouble fully automating the etch->lenny upgrade process with debconf preseeding
16:48<dimmer>I can preseed pretty much everything except services to restart after library upgrades
16:49<dimmer>I have stfw, read documentation, man pages, etc to no avail
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16:51<jpablo>OT: Hi there ... I'm looking for a free software autoresponder, anybody Can tell me or recommend me any?
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16:51<dimmer>Oh, I also cannot preseed overwriting or keeping some configuration files
16:51<Gaiver69>I need help. I want to learn how to use and work in the operating system Debian GNU / linux. read the literature on this system. but stumbled at the first step
16:52<dimmer>Gaiver69, what step did you stumble on?
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16:58<dimmer>Gaiver69, sounds like it's probably a problem with the burned DVD?
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16:59<dimmer>Gaiver69, you can try using the smaller CD net image
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17:00<firefox>sney`, TY Srry I was afk.. had to actually do some work lol. I figured as much, I couldnt properly explain it to a friend of mine.
17:01<sney`>no problem
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17:26<jaggz>what organizer would you recommend for reminders/events?
17:27<jaggz>I don't use it for anything else really.. just need to alert myself of some things in advance sometimes
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17:41<dimmer>jaggz, good question. I really like OS X's ical - but I don't know of a linux equivalent
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17:43<ml|>maybe iceowl
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17:45<dpkg>sunbird is probably what Mozilla's standalone calendar application will be called once it's worthy of the title - see, or sunbird is called iceowl in debian
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17:45<abbenormal>hello all
17:45<abbenormal>have a network issue is this the place to ask for help
17:46<dimmer>abbenormal, well you've gotten irc to work, all done right? (j/k)
17:46<abbenormal>my network doesnt startup after new kernel is installed
17:46<dimmer>sounds like a network driver issue
17:46<abbenormal>driver is there
17:46<dimmer>interesting - which driver is it?
17:47<abbenormal>i need more training as debian has slaped me again
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17:49<abbenormal>i was use to ifup eth0 but now im told its ip link set eth0 up now so learning different commands
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17:50<dimmer>abbenormal is this debian testing or unstable?
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17:51<dimmer>interesting - I hadn't used the ip commands either
17:51<dimmer>thanks for the heads up
17:51<dimmer>well, if you're getting eth0 to show up, but no link is detected I don't know what to say
17:52<dimmer>have you tried ethtool to check for any extra info?
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17:52<abbenormal>im so use to just making a kernel and volia it just works
17:53<abbenormal>ifconfig gives just the loopback info
17:54<abbenormal>not sure what else to use
17:54<dimmer>that makes it sound like a driver issue
17:54<abbenormal>on theres some changes
17:54<abbenormal>but driver is there
17:54<dimmer>is there anyway you can try a different network card?
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17:55<abbenormal>yes i can put in a pci one but then i lose the pci slot
17:55<abbenormal>why would work fine and all other kernels not
17:56<dimmer>if you put a pci card in and networking works, you've probably found a bug
17:56<jaggz>korganizer doesn't even pop up alerts
17:56<jaggz>broken or it's me.
17:56<abbenormal>ok let me pop in the intel 100
17:56*jaggz dl's iceowl
17:57<jaggz>dpkg sunbird is been released
17:57<dpkg>...but sunbird is already something else...
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17:57<dimmer>abbenormal, at least that might help narrow down what could be wrong
17:57<jaggz>oh.. says it's not worthy, not that it hasn't been released.. heh.
17:57<loudergood>would this be related to firmware-linux? or am I barking up the wrong tree?
17:58<jaggz>abbenormal, I use ifconfig directly .. hm
17:58<jaggz>look at your /etc/network/interfaces file too maybe
18:00<abbenormal>jaggz: what kernel are you running
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18:03<abbenormal>making another kernel will be a minute
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18:09<abbenormal>ok this one loads and says no inet supersever loaded
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18:10<dimmer>that sounds okay then
18:10<dimmer>but you get network connectivity?
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18:11<abbenormal>nope does show eth0 and now eth2
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18:12<dimmer>so this is with your intel pci card connected?
18:12<dimmer>now it seems more likely to be a configuration problem than a driver issue...
18:13<dimmer>I have only used squeeze once, and I don't know how the network configuration may have changed
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18:15<abbenormal>well not sure where to look now
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18:16<abbenormal>this is weird id bet i could load lenny up and have the same issue
18:17<abbenormal>let me try
18:17<abbenormal>hold on
18:18<dimmer>good idea
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18:18<abbenormal>this is what i like about linux reproduce the problem nice to have scripts
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18:26<abrotman>abbenormal: what's the issue ?
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18:39<abbenormal>het abrotman
18:39<abbenormal>im making a custom kernel and it wont load my network back up
18:40<abrotman>dmesg | grep eth .. do you see it ?
18:40<abbenormal>it shows its there but it tells me its down
18:40<abrotman>abbenormal: ifconfig -a shows it ?
18:40<abbenormal>nope only thing ifconfig shows is local loopback
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18:41<abbenormal>that is what ip addr shows
18:41<abbenormal>and thats what im told to use now as ifconfig is beiong outdated
18:41<abrotman>dmesg | grep eth ?
18:41<abbenormal>im install lenny right now so have to wait
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18:42<abbenormal>it will load fine with 2.6.26-2-686 stock kernel and will run and load fine with but wont load and run on 28 29 or 30
18:43<abbenormal>ive used the same .config that ive made for this system on all the kernels i make and its not working with 28 29 and 30
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18:53<abbenormal>ok back up on lenny and have the network interface working on the 2.6.26-2-686 now to build the kernel and see if it loads the network after it
18:53<abbenormal>anything you guys need
18:53<abrotman>abbenormal: moment
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18:53<abbenormal>info wise
18:53<abbenormal>yes sir
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18:54<abrotman>abbenormal: there is a .29 in
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18:54<abrotman>and also a .30
18:54<abbenormal>ok can try that also
18:55<abbenormal>ok so add backport to my apt list
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18:56<ml|>dpkg: tell abbenormal about bpo
18:56<abrotman>abbenormal: read the instructions at
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19:09<abbenormal>hum keyring fails to sign
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19:11<abrotman>abbenormal: did you follow the instructions about getting the key ?
19:16<abbenormal>but doesnt matter can still get the kernels
19:16<abrotman>abbenormal: apt-get update;aptitude update
19:16<abbenormal>i have to install it first
19:16<abbenormal>this is a very basic install
19:17<abbenormal>miminal setup
19:17<abbenormal>mainly command line
19:17<abrotman>install what first?
19:18<abbenormal>never used it
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19:19<rudi_s>!tell abbenormal about aptitude
19:20<abbenormal>ok its done rebooting
19:22<abbenormal> uname -r
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19:22<abbenormal>ok thats working why cannt i get a vinilla kernel to compile and run
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19:25<abbenormal>thanks guys
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19:43<nd33r>anyone running zabbix in debian?
19:43<nd33r>i need help
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20:04<jaggz>iceowl / sunbird can't run in the icon tray?
20:04<jaggz>er, can it..
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20:04<jaggz>or, rather, somehow stay running in any way .. I don't want to have to minimize it to keep it around
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20:08<abbenormal>thanks guys
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20:09<abbenormal>thanks dimmer
20:09<abbenormal>thanks abrotman
20:09<abrotman>got it all working ?
20:09<dimmer>glad to try
20:10<abbenormal>its working on the stock kernel so thats a start
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20:10<abbenormal>the rest ill have to figure out
20:11<abbenormal>but at least now i wont have to patch v4l drivers to work proper
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20:13<Bernd_amd64>anyone know about mumble in here ? problem: jittering sound via oss4
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20:13<abrotman>abbenormal: what else isn't working ?
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20:15<abbenormal>ive not finished the setup this is going to be a htpc when im done with it i use a expermental driver for a dvb card the drivers are not main stream yet so had to patch v4l drivers to make work with the old kernel i was using
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20:19<dimmer>bernd: sorry
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20:29<justfil>I can't write to my ntfs partition. fstab line: /dev/sda3 /media/archive ntfs ro,umask=0222 0 0
20:29<dimmer>ro means read-only
20:31<loudergood>if only all problems were that simple
20:31<abrotman>justfil: you want ntfs-3g too
20:31<dimmer>I haven't loaded an ntfs partition in a while, do you no longer need ntfs-3g installed?
20:32<justfil>no, i want to use fstab, please.
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20:33<justfil>i mean, why do i have to use ntfs-3g when adding the line in fstab works just fine...
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20:41<Jason>I ask about having the virtual box modules start on boot
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20:43<Jason>well there is 258 people and now there is none of the peopel saying nothing?
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20:45<Jason>I ask about having the virtual box modules start on boot
20:46<abrotman>put them in /etc/modules ?
20:47<Jason>I don't know if I have /etc/modules
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21:09<Jason>how do I test to see if I have it?
21:10<abrotman>look for the file in /etc/
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21:26<Jason>I don't have modules
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21:27<abrotman>Jason: which OS is this?
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21:28<abrotman>that file should exist, if not create it
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21:35<Jason>ok how do I create it?
21:35<Jason>and make it boot in startup
21:37<abrotman>with a text editor
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21:38<abrotman>Jason: do you know the name of the module ?
21:40<Jason>I'm unsure, I need to run this command: modprobe vboxdvr
21:40<Jason>everytime I boot
21:42<abrotman>Jason: very carefully type: echo vboxdvr >> /etc/modules
21:43<Jason>it need to be root to echo
21:43<Jason>I'll type sudo
21:43<Jason>it won't do a thing even i am sudo
21:43<Jason>bash: /etc/modules: Permission denied
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21:43<abrotman>the >> is the most important
21:44<Jason>I did what you say it won't do a thing
21:45<abrotman>sudo "echo vboxdvr >> /etc/modules" ?
21:48<Jason>yes sir
21:49<Jason>let me try
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21:50<abrotman>SuperMiguel: i just told you
21:50<SuperMiguel>mkfs.vfat dont work
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21:51<abrotman>no errors?
21:51<SuperMiguel>command not found
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21:52<dpkg>Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See and ask me about <bot help>.
21:52<SuperMiguel>... i need to install dosfstools
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22:06<SuperMiguel>is there a way to get a timed cp?
22:06<SuperMiguel>like how long will it take?
22:07<Tekno_>cp ?
22:08<SuperMiguel>cp command
22:08<SuperMiguel>copy command
22:08<Tekno_>time cp blabla..
22:09<drakeman>Hey good evening, i hjave a problem with the flash plugin in opera 9.64, debian squeeze, i put the .so file into the plugin folders inside opera, inside mozilla folder, and nothing it still says that i dont have flash installed. the plugin i installed was flashplugin-nonefree from the repos, ... any ideas?
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22:10<abrotman>drakeman: did you disable the plugins in the preferences?
22:11<drakeman>abrotman, nop, is enabled, i see other plugins like quicktime windows media player, and try to click find new, but didnt find any n ew plugin and i put the in the same folder with the others and nothing.
22:11<abrotman>drakeman: where did you put the ?
22:12<drakeman>abrotman, i try inside /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, usr/lib/opera/plugins, /usr/lib/flashplayer-nonefree/ (default install dir), and nothing, also all this folders are in the path in preferences inside opera.
22:13<abrotman>it should be fine in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
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22:14<abrotman>drakeman: isn't there a 'opera -debugplugin' ?
22:14<drakeman>abrotman, ok, the file is there, first i put a copy of the file, then a symbolic link where the original file was in the default install dir.
22:15<drakeman>abrotman, for comand line?
22:15<drakeman>mmm i type that command, it just opened an opera window but any error message, when i enter to a site with flash i get ----> You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all content on this page. Do you want to download this plug-in now?
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22:16<drakeman>abrotman, let me se the debug help
22:17<drakeman>abrotman, wait i see a error message.
22:17<abrotman>says "No likey flash" ?
22:18<drakeman>abrotman, ---> operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] With error cannot open shared object file: No such file or director (one of the messages)
22:18<drakeman>looking for the file in aptitude
22:18<abrotman>in apt-file ?
22:19<drakeman>abrotman, in repos.
22:19<abrotman>libnss3-1d: /usr/lib/
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22:20<drakeman>abrotman, i dont have that file
22:21-!-shjit [] has joined #debian
22:21<abrotman>so install that package ?
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22:22<abrotman>koalies: #debian-kde :)
22:22<koalies>abrotman, I know, I joined #debian as well just for the heck of it :)
22:22<abrotman>drakeman: work better?
22:22<drakeman>abrotman, no, aptitude cant find the package
22:24<drakeman>abrotman, reinstalling the package, was installed, but dont have that so file.
22:25<abrotman>drakeman: which version of debian ?
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22:25<abrotman>dpkg: find lib/ lenny
22:25<Jason>how do I check the version of Debian?
22:25<drakeman>abrotman, squeeze (testing)
22:25<drakeman>Jason, lsb_release -a
22:25<abrotman>drakeman: i386 or amd64 ?
22:25<drakeman>abrotman, i386
22:25<abrotman>drakeman: i have that file in that package
22:26<abrotman>drakeman: put your sources.list in a pastebin
22:26<abrotman>dpkg: find lib/ squeeze
22:26<Jason>ok thanks
22:26<Jason>it's lenny
22:26<dpkg>Debian Search of 'lib/' (2): (/usr/lib/{|}) in libs/libnss3-1d ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/ in libdevel/libnss3-1d-dbg.
22:26<drakeman>abrotman, i have thisw ---> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2009-07-13 21:24 ->
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22:27<drakeman>abrotman, --->
22:27<abrotman>okay ..
22:27<drakeman>abrotman, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 862292 2009-04-18 02:55
22:27<dpkg>Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'lib/ squeeze' returned no results.
22:27<drakeman>the file permissions are right?
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22:31<drakeman>abrotman, i have the file, but maybe a permission problem?
22:31<abrotman>does the exist ?
22:31<abrotman>oh .. sorry
22:31<Jason>how do I install virtualbox-3.0_3.0.2-49928_Debian_lenny_i386.deb?
22:32<abrotman>Jason: man dpkg
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22:32<drakeman>abro now i get ---> operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] With error cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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22:33<drakeman> Jason you already have the deb?
22:33-!-davyg [] has quit []
22:33<drakeman>sudo dpkg -i nameofthepackage.deb
22:33<drakeman>are you using lenny right?
22:34<drakeman>well use dpkg -i virtualbox-3.0_3.0.2-49928_Debian_lenny_i386.deb (you need sudo or root to install)
22:34<drakeman>or, why you just dont add the virtual box url to the repos and install from aptitude¿
22:36<drakeman>Jason, yo know where are you sources.list file?
22:36<Jason>maybe, just refresh my memory
22:37<drakeman>Jason, ok, open your /etc/apt/sources.list file with gedit or vim (sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list)
22:37<drakeman>abrotman, any idea for that other so file?
22:37<Jason>ah yes
22:38<drakeman>Jason, ok you already have the file opened?
22:38<abrotman>drakeman: reinstall the package ?
22:38<Jason>sorry was distracted, I'm oprning
22:38<drakeman>abrotman, the same package?
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22:38<drakeman>Jason, add this line to the file deb lenny non-free
22:38<drakeman>(deb lenny non-free
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22:38<drakeman>without the parhentesis
22:38<abrotman>drakeman: the libnss3 ?
22:39<drakeman>nop, the
22:39<drakeman>abrotman, now is asking for that file
22:40<Jason>wow it won't let me save the file
22:40<Jason>oh oops
22:40<drakeman>Jason, are you using root, or sudo to open that file¡?
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22:40<Jason>lol silly me
22:40<drakeman>Jason, xD
22:40<Jason>ok how od I open it
22:40<Jason>as sudo
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22:41<drakeman>for example
22:41<drakeman>sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
22:42<loudergood>you're assuming he has sudo configured
22:42<drakeman>Jason, that work if you have your user set in sudoers
22:42<drakeman>loudergood, thanks.. you are right
22:42<drakeman>Jason, use root
22:42<Jason>I'm opening the root terminal
22:42<abrotman>he does .. he went through this before
22:42<drakeman>Jason, ok.
22:42<Jason>all open now
22:43<drakeman>ok, add the line i give you above
22:43<drakeman>abrotman, what package have that .so file?
22:43<abrotman>drakeman: apt-file didn't tell you ?
22:44<abrotman>!find testing
22:44<dpkg>Debian Search of '' (2): (/usr/lib/{|}) in libs/libnspr4-0d ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/ in libdevel/libnspr4-0d-dbg.
22:44<drakeman>abrotman, im installing apt-file
22:44<Jason>how do I put thel ink? it won't give me the new line
22:44<drakeman>Jason, you have gedit installed?
22:44<loudergood>hit insert?
22:45<Jason>how do I see if I had gedit installed?
22:45<drakeman>whereis gedit
22:45<drakeman>Jason, yo get any results?
22:46<drakeman>ok, so open the sources.list with geidt typing as root (gedit /etc/apt/sources.list)
22:46<drakeman>without the ( )
22:46<abrotman>really .. gedit ?
22:46<Jason>I am already in vim, sir.
22:46<Jason>how do I save in vim :P?
22:47<drakeman>Jason, press ESC, then :wq! and hit enter
22:47<abrotman>what is the ! for ?
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22:47<Jason>:) I should come in here more often
22:47<drakeman>abrotman, exit without questions or any confirmation i guess
22:48<Jason>now... what?
22:48<abrotman>drakeman: you don't use vi much do you?
22:48<Jason>I liek vim
22:48<Jason>it is vim, sir.
22:48<drakeman>ok, now in your console as ROOT type this wget -q -O- | sudo apt-key add -
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22:48<drakeman>abrotman, nop xD
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22:49<Jason>it said OK
22:49<drakeman>now run aptitude update as ROOT
22:49<drakeman>well, you dont need root for that
22:50<Jason>it's ok
22:50<drakeman>Jason, now apt-get install virtualbox-3.0 as ROOT
22:50<Jason>lol it questions me are I am root lol
22:50<Jason>I'll go as root
22:50<abrotman>drakeman: you need to be root to aptitude update
22:50<drakeman>yes? hahha ok
22:50<drakeman>abrotman, sorry im not an experienced user
22:50<drakeman>abrotman, learning just like Jason
22:51<Jason>ok good I am installing
22:51<Jason>a lot easier
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22:51<Jason>I lovel inux questioning me are I am root? lol
22:51<Jason>I love*
22:52<drakeman>!congratulate Jason
22:52<dpkg>Hugs & Puppies Jason, you did it!
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22:53<Jason>I need to attend and learn more of linux and need to learn on the hardware support and software support also on any linux distros
22:54<Jason>then I'm a linux user
22:54<drakeman>Jason, i neede too
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22:54<Jason>ok how od I register my nick in here lol
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22:55<abrotman>Jason: /msg nickserv help
22:55<abrotman>i'm going to guess that someone has Jason already
22:55<Jason>hold on then
22:57<drakeman>abrotman, cannot resolve the problem yet :(
22:57<drakeman>abrotman, im stuck with that file
22:58<abrotman>drakeman: the bot said awhile ago which package
22:58<drakeman>abrotman, yes, i have the file, but dont know what to do if i have the file, opera keeps saying the same
22:59<abrotman>did you reinstall the package ?
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23:00<drakeman>abrotman, i didnt now the name of the package,
23:00<abrotman>!find testing
23:01<dpkg>Debian Search of '' (2): (/usr/lib/{|}) in libs/libnspr4-0d ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/ in libdevel/libnspr4-0d-dbg.
23:01<drakeman>mm wait.
23:01<Jason>how do I remove vituralbox
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23:01<Jason>it says it won't install
23:01<Jason>unless I remove it and install it again
23:02<drakeman>Jason, as root aptitude remove virtualbox-3.0
23:02<Jason>ok removed
23:02<Jason>now what is the command to install again?
23:02<drakeman>Jason, the same you typed before.
23:03<firefox>so, I downloaded the deb and install the firmware for my old atmel wireless b card... now what?
23:03<drakeman>the same to remove, just replace remove for install
23:04<drakeman>abrotman, i install libnspr4-0d-dbg
23:04<drakeman>but same error. , i didnt have the package intalled
23:04<Jason> Compilation of the kernel module FAILED! │
23:04<Jason> │ │
23:04<Jason> │ VirtualBox will not start until this problem is fixed. Please consult │
23:04<Jason> │ /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out why the kernel module does not │
23:04<Jason> │ compile. Most probably the kernel sources were not found. Install them │
23:04-!-Jason was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
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23:05<drakeman>abrotman, operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] dlopen failed on /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] With error cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
23:05<Jason>do there is a pastebin?
23:05<firefox>as in, how to I get it to show up? I already have /etc/network/interfaces edited and I want it to be wlan0 .. I jsut dont know what I need to do now?
23:05<drakeman> i thing
23:05<abrotman>drakeman: if the file exists .. maybe it's corrupted .. reinstall the package
23:06<drakeman>abrotman, yes, but i didnt have the package installed before.. so i have to reinstalll the libnspr4-0d-dbg, ? i installed two minutes ago
23:06<Jason>go look
23:07<Jason>1 more thing
23:07<Jason>clear and better look on this
23:08<drakeman>abrotman, thanks man, and sorry for asking so many question but the bot didnt say me the package name, you did.
23:08<drakeman>abrotman, working now
23:08<abrotman>drakeman: the bot did .. you just didn't see it
23:08<drakeman>abrotman, ooh yes, you are right, my mistake :(
23:08<firefox>anyone? I think its just not associating the device to anything... ?
23:08<drakeman>abrotman, i was reading the last part of the line
23:09<abrotman>okay .. you kids have fun!
23:09<drakeman>abrotman, xD
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23:10<drakeman>Jason, you did this ---> modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why failed!
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23:10<drakeman>you see what dmesg says?
23:11<Jason>ok then should I type dmesg?
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23:12<adb>Jason: cat /etc/group | grep vbox , says ?
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23:13<adb>ok logout/login
23:13<Jason>I did the cat command thing and got this: vboxusers:x:116:jason
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23:14<drakeman>ml|, if you read this send me a message please.
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23:15<Jason>ok I already logout and login
23:15<Bernd_amd64>anyone knows good tutorials for anjuta + glade ?
23:15<Jason>'now what?
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23:17<Jason>ok drakeman, I logged out aND LOGGED IN
23:17<Jason>naughty keyboard lol
23:17<Bernd_amd64>Jason, virtualbox ?
23:17<Bernd_amd64>any problems ?
23:17<Jason>well I had to reinstall it
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23:18<Bernd_amd64>@ lenny ?
23:18<Bernd_amd64>ose or or SUN ?
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23:19<Bernd_amd64>means closed
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23:19<Jason>the ones that support USB
23:19<Jason>so non-ose
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23:19<Bernd_amd64>ok... and what´s the problem ...
23:19<Jason>I need to install it lol
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23:20<Jason>drakeman was helping me, but I guess he is busy now lol
23:20<Bernd_amd64>so why you don´t ?
23:20<Bernd_amd64>explain what is your problem ... so I could help you ...
23:21<Bernd_amd64>I also use VBox .. and it works @ lenny perfect
23:21<Jason>ok how do I install it?
23:21<git-hi9h>there are some pretty simple instructions on howto install you put this into your sources.list -
23:21<git-hi9h>deb lenny non-free
23:22<g3tc0d3s>can i load my bot here?
23:22<adb>Jason: now is installed : 7866.828159] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 1.6.6_OSE
23:22<g3tc0d3s>can i load my script here?
23:22<Jason>it isn'tl oaded, silly.
23:23<Jason>isn't loaded*
23:23<Bernd_amd64>added the line ?
23:23<Jason>so I had to reinstall it
23:23<adb>Jason: run virtualbox
23:23<g3tc0d3s>jason tell me if it is possible to load perl script here
23:23<Jason>I don't see it in the list
23:23<Jason>it is why I say how I install it
23:23<adb>search again
23:23<Bernd_amd64>remove old version via apt dpkg or synaptic
23:23<Jason>I did
23:24<Bernd_amd64>add the line above to sourcelist
23:24<Bernd_amd64>the as root: wget -q -O- | sudo apt-key add -
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23:24<Bernd_amd64>after that just # apt-get update && apt-get install virtualbox
23:25<Jason>E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
23:25<Jason>E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
23:25<Bernd_amd64>and you have to add the users wich use Vbox to the group vbox
23:25<Jason>told ya
23:25<adb>Jason: ROOT man
23:25<Jason>I did as root
23:25<Jason>I did as root
23:25<Bernd_amd64>quit synaptic
23:25<Jason>it is already, sir.
23:25<Bernd_amd64>kk so edit via synaptic
23:26<adb>Jason: rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
23:26<Jason>got it!
23:26<Jason>installing again
23:26<firefox>hmmm... after a few hundred pages I find out that my card is not supporteed in linux... bummer
23:26<git-hi9h>you probably need to /etc/init.d/vbox setup or restart
23:27<Jason>firefox, it is why I'm planning ot attend to the linux users group thing.
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23:27<Jason>git-hi9h: I agree with you, I might will try
23:27<Bernd_amd64>wich card isn´t supported ?
23:27<git-hi9h>it should add you to the group automagically though
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23:28<Jason>I'll wait until it is done installed
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23:28<Bernd_amd64>also well explained :
23:29<Jason>why not someone tell me this?
23:29<Jason>then I'd be probably using vbox already :P
23:29<git-hi9h>argggh, told ya there was some great instuctions out there
23:30<Jason>I know.
23:31<Jason>No suitable module for running kernel found failed!
23:31<Jason>for vbox
23:31<Bernd_amd64>afte i scrolled up ... i notice it was allmost everything said ...
23:31<Jason>I just logged in and out
23:32<Jason>it is why I missed all information and plus I don't have logs
23:32<Bernd_amd64>bookmark : :)
23:34<Jason>ok hm. hgow do I view the log in that: /var/log/vbox-install.log
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23:35<Bernd_amd64>gedit - nano - cat - less - more -
23:36<Jason>I'll use vim
23:36<Bernd_amd64>so use vim ...
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23:36<Jason>vim /var/log/vbox-install.log?
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23:38<Jason>Makefile:147: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. Stop.
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23:39<Bernd_amd64>you have to install kernel header
23:39<Jason>well how?
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23:40<Bernd_amd64>apt-get install linux-headers-($uname -a)
23:40<firefox>Jason, I wish there was a lug here. I am trying to get my college to start one
23:40<Jason>it's okay
23:40<sney>lugs are kind of terrible a lot of the time anyway
23:40<Jason>I have a LUG in here, but so far away
23:41<sney>a lot of distro wars
23:41<Jason>I'm more an ubuntu person, but I like Debian so... I use debian lol
23:42<sney>a LUG let an ubuntu user in? :o
23:42<Bernd_amd64>sry should me uname-r
23:42<Bernd_amd64>my fail ... to late
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23:42<Jason>well really, anyone can enter in lol
23:42<firefox>sney, Debian wins the distro wars hands down lol
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23:44<Jason>then how do I install kernel sources, it says it needs kernel sources thing
23:44<sney> has all of the package names you'll ever need
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23:45<Jason>no silly.
23:45<Bernd_amd64>no Vbox build a module so just nead the header
23:45<Jason>I'd rather to type something and it'll automatically find and install
23:45<Jason>let me paste something you never read.
23:46<Jason>Makefile:147: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. Stop.
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23:48<kop>Jason: What kernel sources do you want?
23:48<sney>aptitude search linux-source
23:48<Jason>I dunno, whatever it want, so vituralbox will work
23:49<Bernd_amd64>do what i said ...
23:49<Bernd_amd64>apt-get install linux-headers-($uname -r)
23:49<sney>Bernd_amd64: only on debian, uname -r doesn't return a clean version
23:49<Jason>bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
23:50<kop>My DSL modem occasionally locks up. I figure I'll put it on a ups and then power cycle when an automated process can't reach the net. (I figure this means a nut compatible ups.) Does anyone have a recommendation for a ups that can be controlled in this fashion?
23:50<sney>so you get cannot find package linux-headers-2.6.29-2 or something to that effect
23:50<Bernd_amd64>than uname -a and apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.*******
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23:50<Jason>Linux jason 2.6.26-2-vserver-686-bigmem #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 08:34:07 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linu
23:51<sney>kop: um, I've never used anything other than a APC ups.
23:51<sney>they are pretty much THE brand.
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23:51<Jason>bah headache
23:51<Jason>I'll rest my brain lol
23:51<kop>sney: Anything that I don't have to make a custom serial cable for that can be power cycled?
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23:51<sney>I know I've seen some with USB and serial hookups
23:52<sney>actually now that I think of it, I've never seen one that didn't
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23:52<Bernd_amd64>so try # apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64
23:52<kop>Jason: You might want to look into make-kpkg, it probably has through instructions in /usr/share/doc/make-kpkg*
23:52<Jason>I rather have wireless if I don't have cable. but I have cable so I'm not worrying
23:52<Bernd_amd64>so try # apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-2-vserver-i686
23:52<Bernd_amd64>sry not amd64
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23:53<Jason>E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.26-2-vserver-i686
23:53<sney>kop: this one for instance.
23:53<Bernd_amd64>without the iu
23:53<kop>sney : (There was another company, I forget, with better linux support. But it was bought by apc.)
23:54*sney shrug
23:54<Bernd_amd64># apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-2-vserver-686
23:54<Bernd_amd64>this should work for you
23:54<sney>also, apt-cache search is your *friend.*
23:54<Bernd_amd64>and bigmem is
23:54<Jason>it is waiting for headers
23:54<Yeehaw>I have a question on Ubuntu/Interpid GCC is this the right channel to ask ?
23:55<Jason>ok I'm done, now what?
23:55<Bernd_amd64>apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-2-vserver-686-bigmem ?
23:55<kop>sney: A bit overkill for something that probably draws 1 or 2 amps.
23:55<Bernd_amd64>the other is not for bigmem kernel
23:55<sney>Yeehaw: no, #ubuntu on is the right channel to ask.
23:55<kop>Yeehaw : Nope.
23:55<kop>!tell Yeehaw -about ubuntu
23:56<Bernd_amd64>#apt-get remove linux-headers-2.6.26-2-vserver-686 && apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-2-vserver-686-bigmem
23:56<sney>kop: smaller than that UPS and they are just surge protectors with an ego
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23:56<Jason>ok all done
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23:56<kop>sney:) Maybe I want a power strip with remote control?
23:56<Yeehaw>kop: sney thank you
23:56<Bernd_amd64>Jason, as root /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
23:57<sney>well in that case, I know I saw one of those recently that had USB out, but I didn't actually try any of the remote control functions
23:57<Bernd_amd64>it works ?
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23:57<kop>sney: That sounds about right. But then there's linux support....
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23:57<Bernd_amd64>kk so it will work
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23:58<sney>how complex can it be? it's just a surge protector. <- famous last words
23:58<Bernd_amd64>have fun with VBox
23:58<Bernd_amd64>next time belive me when i say - install kernel header ^
23:59<Jason>now what?
23:59<Jason>install vbox again?
23:59<Bernd_amd64>nothing start vbox
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23:59<Jason>wait wait
23:59<Jason>I don't have vbox installed yet silly
23:59<kop>sney: I'm off to check out the nut site and see what might be supported.
23:59<Bernd_amd64>sure you have
23:59<Jason>I had to reinstall
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