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---Logopened Wed Sep 23 00:00:57 2009
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00:46<marcOS>"Unpacking of 'pl-5.7.15-362.i586.rpm' failed at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package/ line 155"
00:46<marcOS>what can be happening ¿?
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01:56<chaos>well... back to my question .. slay <user> worx :s
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03:04<peej> I'm on lenny and have a usb wlan widget from Thomson/speedtouch wireless modem, which identifies itself as RTL8187B_WLAN_Adapter. I see no blinkenlights that indicate a link. What do I do next?
03:05<peej>lsusb: Bus 007 Device 004: ID 0bda:8189 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187B Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Adapter
03:06<gsimmons>dpkg: tell peej -about rtl-wifi
03:07<gsimmons>peej: You'll need kernel 2.6.27 or later for RTL8187B support.
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03:08<beer>squeeze is suposed to be frozen this december. Does that mean that squeeze will be shiped with kde 4.3?
03:09*peej rummages around backports for a kernel > 2.6.26...
03:11<makkan>morning all
03:12*makkan or substitute "morning" for appropriate time of day
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03:14<peej>oh, and does anyone know what that thing that looks like half a golfball is ? It has a usb socket in the middle of it, and came with the modem. My guess is it is just an extension for the usbwlan widgit.
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03:14<makkan>peej: most likley it is an extension cord
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04:24<makkan>is it possible to issue multiple "-l login program" to agetty? The reason I'm asking is because I can't try it where I am right now, also I need to automatically log in and run ttysnoop. Both of them require being launched from inittab with getty -l.
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04:26<jm_>makkan: I don't see how that would work
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04:27<locklace>makkan: if you think you need to issue multiple -l options to getty, you're thoroughly confused
04:28<makkan>locklace: oh, is there another way to do it then?
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04:33<valdyn>to bad ttysnoop comes with a manpage, now you have to read it
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04:37<makkan>valdyn: from what I read about ttysnoop it is supposed to be started by getty, which is also stated in the manpage.
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04:40<jm_>makkan: yes and you can specify the rest in snooptab
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04:41<Stephane>someone know well xen ?
04:42<makkan>jm_: yes I don't have any problems with ttysnoop, or autologin separately. It's getting both to work at the same time thats an issue. AFAIK both need to be specified in inittab on a with getty -l
04:43<jm_>makkan: not really, that's the part you are not understanding :)
04:44<makkan>jm_: I like what you're saying, that means there's hope. So what is it I'm getting wrong?
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04:44<jm_>makkan: inittab specifies to run ttysnoop by getty,snooptab specifies what ttysnoop will run for you
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04:46<makkan>jm_: You mean I could run ttysnoop manually?
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04:48<jm_>makkan: that's not what I meant - if by autologin you mean start shell/whatever else, you can start this from snooptab
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04:50<makkan>jm_: Aha! You have to excuse me my experience with this part of the system is very limited
04:50<jm_>makkan: it's the same you would do via inittab, you just transfer it to ttysnoop
04:52<makkan>jm_: I got that now. ;) Thanks alot! Shouldn't be any problems at all getting it to do what I want now.
04:52<jm_>makkan: I still wonder what will it run - mplayer -vo caca ?
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04:53<makkan>jm_: That was an early idea but iirc it didn't have the power to do that (233 Mhz)
04:54<jm_>makkan: doh, I never noticed it uses so much CPU
04:54<jm_>aa is slightly better
04:55<dsl>hi all. I've just installed dsl on my old computer, and I want to use dosemu on it. Dosemu installed ok, but freedos didn't due to license problems. How can I install freedos?
04:55<makkan>jm_: I think aa was to much for the little bugger aswell..
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04:56<jm_>makkan: what else is left then? sl? bb?
04:56<makkan>jm_: but the general idea is a rss ticker...
04:56<makkan>jm_: what is bb and sl ?
04:56<jm_>makkan: apt-cache show bb sl
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04:58<makkan>jm_: ah.. well no
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05:00<makkan>jm_: however now that you mention it the last time i tried mplayer i used divx compression, if I go for something thats easier on the hardware it might work better
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05:01<lupine_85>Is there any mechanism in debian to get a "working" /etc/network/interfaces.d directory ? or am I going to need to write my own custom gubbins?
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05:04<orjan>If I have an win share mounted with type cifs. If I change permissions on the win share do I have to do the mount again to make the permissions to change? Reason I ask is I have users on the share and don't want if I don't have to :)
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06:00<mirko>hi! anyone can help me out with ssh daemon? I just want to enable sshd service (or openssh server for that matter) so I can connect through ssh from remote locations. thanks!
06:00<petemc>aptitude install openssh-server
06:04<mirko>that pkg is already installed, I tried to reconfigure it but it just doesn't give me the option of running the server or not
06:04<petemc>it should be enabled by default after installing
06:06<jm_>did you actually verify if it's running/try to connect?
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06:07<mirko>looking at config now ... should I specify the listen address in the sshd_config to an exact IP address I'm on?
06:07<mirko>cannot connect
06:07<petemc>you shouldnt have to do anything
06:07<mirko>let me check again ... ;)
06:07<petemc>do you have a firewall between you and the box running ssh?
06:08<mirko>no, I'm using vmware through XP box, two NIC's, both are on the university hub/switched network, no FW's, local and outside IP's are exactly the same
06:08<jm_>netstat -nap|grep sshd
06:09<jm_>also try it locally: ssh localhost
06:09<jm_>if that works then you have other problems
06:12<mirko>ok, it works through loopback and over the UNI network
06:12<mirko>let me just check from the outside machine ...
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06:13<mirko>that works too ... weird thing, maybe the ISP has having some trouble
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06:15<mirko>thanks for the help, we unix/linux analphabets couldn't get much far without a strong community
06:15<petemc>whats an analphabet?
06:16<chaos>ppl who can't read/write
06:17<chaos>but honestly it's not a language help chan :P
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06:31*adb funny the channel is monitored in rt on
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06:47<tuxcrafter>hi all
06:48<tuxcrafter>is there a eassy way to set the max download speed of an interface without installing extra packages
06:48<tuxcrafter>i got a trafic shaping issue
06:48<tuxcrafter>but i cant run apt-get update anymore
06:48<tuxcrafter>so broke is it
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06:49<tuxcrafter>so i need to trottle down the max so the sdsl line is not going to break under the network traffic
06:49<chaos>i use wondershaper .. .but you need to install if you wanna use it
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06:50<Ganneff>use tc directly
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06:53<tuxcrafter>i know chicken egg issues :D
06:53<tuxcrafter>is there a way to set the mtu of a live ethernet interface
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06:54<tuxcrafter>ifconfig eth0 mtu 1300
06:54<tuxcrafter>never mind :
06:54<tuxcrafter>sorry i was reading the man while making the question :D
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06:55<chaos>np .. i read "get" instead of "set" :p
06:55<tuxcrafter>ah ok
06:55<peej>tuxcrafter, if you were on wifi you can stand farther away from the access point ;-)
06:55<tuxcrafter>hihi :D
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07:12<niccolo>someone can help me to get the splix2 driver for my samsung ML 2010R ?
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07:14<jm_>niccolo: splix is packaged
07:15<niccolo>jm_, and splix2 ?
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07:18<jm_>niccolo: it's called splix in debian
07:18<niccolo>jm_, thanks so much
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07:19<jm_>niccolo: but 2.0 is only available in testing - it's probably best to backport it if you need it in lenny
07:19<niccolo>ok jm_
07:22<jm_>heh I also plan to buy ml2010r soon
07:24<niccolo>jm_, i put it on a debian pc to print out all documents from my housr
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07:24<wonderwal>which package is fsck.swap binary in?
07:24<jm_>niccolo: yeah I need something cheap & simple too
07:24<jm_>wonderwal: none
07:25<niccolo>jm_, sometime i need to restart cups to make it visible in my intranet...i don't undertand way
07:25<wonderwal>jm_: so how am i supposed to run fsck on my swap partition? debian hangs at "Activating swap file"
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07:26<jm_>wonderwal: you simple initialize it again
07:26<adb>wonderwal, swap partition or swap file ?
07:27<jm_>niccolo: hmm are you sure it's not something simple as in it detects an error for printer and disables it?
07:27<wonderwal>adb: i have a swap parittion but anyway it said file
07:27<wonderwal>"Activating swapfile swap .. Done" then the system appear hung but the hard disks flash
07:28<niccolo>it's i will see with the new driver (splix)
07:28<niccolo>previusly i use gdi driver
07:28<wonderwal>it's weird because it alternates. every 2nd boot its ok
07:28<wonderwal>should i just try recreate the swap partition?
07:29<jm_>yeah try mkswap -c on it, be careful about what you pass to it
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07:30<wonderwal>mkswap -c /dev/sda5 like that?
07:30<jm_>it might mean you have hardware errors
07:30<jm_>for example, triple check the arguments
07:30<jm_>or disk
07:31<wonderwal>i'll try disable the swap partition then see if it boots
07:31<wonderwal>every time.
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07:36<wonderwal>mkswap -c told me fsck.swap doesnt exist
07:36<wonderwal>and swapoff told me it cant allocate memory
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07:37<jm_>then run badblocks on it manually
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07:38<wonderwal>im cheking if the system boots without the entry in fstab
07:38<wonderwal>just badblocks /dev/sda5?
07:39<wonderwal>wow ok
07:40<wonderwal>even without the entry in fstab for the swap partition, it hangs at Activating swapfile swap
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07:40<wonderwal>and this is only on every second boot
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07:41<wonderwal>kernel 2.6.26-1-amd64
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07:43<wonderwal>i hit CTRL C and then it boots fine
07:44<jm_>passing noswap would skip this
07:44<wonderwal>i think its stuck on the next thing after swap
07:45<jm_>so for some reason swapon -a -e hangs for you - does it hang once it's booted too?
07:45<jm_>ahh sure, you said it says done, right?
07:45<wonderwal>so the very next thing hangs
07:45<wonderwal>rcS.d lemme look
07:45<jm_>next bit is /lib/init/
07:46<jm_>so cleaning of /tmp, /var/lock and /var/run
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07:46<wonderwal>thats whats in rcS.d
07:46<wonderwal>grep shows
07:46<wonderwal> log_action_begin_msg "Activating swapfile swap"
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07:47<jm_>yeah so S36 or S37 probably
07:47<wonderwal>maybe 38?
07:47<wonderwal>how do i remove 38?
07:48<jm_>just add exit 0 as 2nd line when testing
07:48<jm_>it's more likely it's one of the previous scripts
07:49<wonderwal>so i should just add exit 0?
07:49<wonderwal>in the actual scripts
07:49<wonderwal>where about should i add it?
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07:54<jm_>2nd line
07:54<jm_>or "set -x" and you'd see what is going on
07:55<wonderwal>how do is et -x?
07:55<jm_>you add that to the script as 2nd line: "set -x" without quotes
07:56<wonderwal>#! /bin/sh
07:56<wonderwal>### BEGIN INIT INFO
07:56<wonderwal>like this?
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07:57<jm_>might make sense to backup the files first
07:57<jm_>wait, set -x - there's a space after set
07:57<petemc>is there any difference between set -x and appending -x to the shebang line?
07:58<jm_>I think not
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07:59<wonderwal>why should i backup files what does set -x do?
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08:00<jm_>so you can restore the originals
08:00<can>hi everybody
08:00<petemc>wonderwal: backing up files before you edit them helps you revert mistakes, if that isnt obvious
08:00<orjan>I have an win share mounted with type cifs. If I change permissions on the win share do I have to do the mount again to make the permissions to change on the linux side?
08:01<can>does anybody have knowledge on crunchbang linux?
08:01<wonderwal>oh youre saying in case i broke an init script?
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08:01<can>i am using it in a live cd format
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08:02<valdyn>can: does "crunchbang" sound anything like "debian" ?
08:02<can>based on ubuntu
08:03<valdyn>can: its offtopic
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08:03<themill>can: please go to #crunchbang on
08:04<can>wat do you mean?
08:04<can>ok thanku will do
08:04<can>one quiestion before i go please?
08:05<can>never mind ta
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08:20<jerome>ya quelqun
08:20<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on
08:20<jerome>c quoi ca tchat
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08:32<physadair>hi, all. my gnome-screensaver sometimes got no response. did you have such experience? I am using Debian Lenny. Thanks.
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08:42<peej>physadair, what do you mean, "no response"?
08:43<physadair>my pc idle for a while, but the screensaver does not work.
08:46<peej>I don't know, but it could be a process that confuses the screensaver into thinking you are in the middle of doing something. Eg, with xscreensaver, if I have a menu open in icewm it won't screensave.
08:46<peej>would say it is a bug rather than a feature
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08:49<jm_>i wonder if it would do the same for me using xautolock
08:50<physadair>peej, ok. THX. I notice there is a bug report on this.
08:50<physadair>i am not sure if it happened in Lenny.
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09:13<Sensiva>Hello, I am trying to reconfigure Xorg using displayconf-gtk and its breaking xorg.conf, now I need to gain higher resolution on my display, I am running Lenny on a Dell Desktop with Intel Q35 VGA chipset
09:13<Sensiva>any ideas?
09:14<jm_>Sensiva: it should detect what monitor can do automatically, does it not? i.e. without editing xorg.conf
09:14<Sensiva>It doesn't
09:15<Sensiva>I just did a fresh install of 5.0.3 and it's not giving me resolution higher than 1024x768
09:15<jm_>did you check x logfile?
09:16<Sensiva>I don't even know what is x logfile
09:16<jm_>xrandr will list supported modes
09:17<Sensiva>jm_ check
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09:17<Sensiva>I used to reconfigure my xorg using displayconf-gtk when I was using Ubuntu
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09:18<Sensiva>now I am lil bit lost I guess
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09:19<adb>Sensiva, X -configure :1
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09:21<jm_>hmm it doesn't mention anything useful about DDC
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09:21<jm_>bleh I have to run, plenty of people can help you here
09:21<Sensiva>jm_ ok thank you
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09:22<Sensiva>adb X -configure created a new Is it active yet? or I should rename it?
09:23<InkBottle>Hi, I have a serious issue with one computer: no screen from the moment is says "starting abstraction layer hald", at boot (to be followed...)
09:23<InkBottle>I had the idea the material is too old for the "experimental" debian that's on it (...) (silly idea but why not)
09:23<adb>Sensiva, just read message which come whit X -configure
09:24<Txt_file>InkBottle: did you took a look at BTS?
09:24<InkBottle>thus i tried booting with acpi=off option; and then I have the C-A-f1 console display (....)
09:24<InkBottle>Txt_file: no?
09:25<InkBottle>but no x11 display, as if the monitor was dead
09:25<InkBottle>Txt_file: what is it?
09:26<Txt_file>!tell InkBottle about experimental
09:26<Txt_file>!tell InkBottle about bts
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09:28<InkBottle>Txt_file: sorry, only the jargon i didn't know: but yes I checked
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09:29<hxB5>Hi all, could not find a dedicated vim chan so i post here (i am on Lenny). From Vim, what is the command to create a new file in the current directory write the current file and open the new one? any idea?
09:29<InkBottle>I haven't seen anything. Other hint?
09:29<hxB5>i searched in the vim documentation but must have missed it
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09:30<adb>InkBottle, check "dpkg" window in irc
09:31<InkBottle>hxB5: freenode #vim
09:32<InkBottle>adb: I did, what do you want to point exactly? the fact that exerimental is maybe not the best choice?
09:33<tuxcrafter>some little dumb question but i want to open forward an X app with ssh -X but the app is telling me Cannot open display i knwo this has something to do with some display far
09:33<InkBottle>adb: but there is something else: you can't down grade a system
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09:33<hxB5>507 users for the vim chan... quite a community :-)
09:33<hxB5>have a nice day
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09:34<InkBottle>adb: Or, you know how to downgrade a system: unfortunatly, I've got only 1 partition on that system (to bad, no?)
09:36<InkBottle>so you tell me to run buy a new hd
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09:37<InkBottle>i can be an issue concerning x, i 'm going to have a look there :)
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10:02<verydaft>Seeing problem with Google analytics on a web page and Iceweasel. The page is apparently rendered white, but what happens I think is that the browser is trying to show something else, and when you hit "back" you end up on the page you thought you were navigating to.
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10:05<verydaft>Page is and wondered if others using Debian Iceweasel get this issue navigating that site. Works fine in Konq, and in Firefox on Windows. Have cleaned out my cache my google cookies. Funnily enough I see similar behaviour on another Debian box on another website. So I think I may be seeing a bug of some sort.
10:05<verydaft>Breaks in Iceweasel in safe-mode.
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10:07<slush>no problems here
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10:08<dr|z3d>verydaft: What's the Windows version, and what version of IceWeasel?
10:08<al-maisan>Hello there! I need to get access to all the source packages (tar balls) in the debian stable release.
10:08<al-maisan>Are these contained on the debian DVDs? E.g. here: ?
10:09<verydaft>slush: have horrible feeling must be my poking concurrent fetching limits in Iceweasel. I'll try a clean account on the same box.
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10:09<dr|z3d>al-maisan: Add source repositories to your apt list.
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10:09<dr|z3d>al-maisan: Add source repositories to your apt list.
10:09<verydaft>dr|z3d: Windows will be w2K with latest Firefox, and iceweasel 3.0.6
10:10<dr|z3d>verydaft: Well, latest Firefox is 3.5.x
10:10<dr|z3d>So, IceWeasel's behind the curve, there.
10:10<al-maisan>dr|z3d: as I said I'd like to download them all at once .. my question is whether they'd be on these DVDs?
10:10<dr|z3d>Also, I've noticed sites break before when max connections is raised above the defaults.
10:10<chealer>al-maisan: not on binary DVDs, no
10:11<al-maisan>chealer: thanks for the info.
10:11<al-maisan>chealer: is there any other way to download the tar balls then?
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10:13<chealer>al-maisan: you can download source ODs, or download those you actually need with APT.
10:13<al-maisan>ah, source CDs sounds promising, will look for these..
10:14<verydaft>dr|z3d: that isn't exactly news - but if it can't run Google Analytics no one will ever know that Lenny's browser is a tad out of date.
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10:15<verydaft>Hmm - seems it is specific to this user or profile in iceweasel....
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10:15<dr|z3d>verydaft: Ok. In your profile with IceWeasel closed.. rename prefs.js and then restart.
10:16<dr|z3d>That will I suspect "fix" your issue.
10:16<al-maisan>chealer: hmm .. could not find any mention of source CDs on .. do you have a reference handy by any chance?
10:18<dr|z3d>verydaft: If it does, then you've probably tweaked some IW setting(s) and caused borkage.
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10:20<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
10:20<dr|z3d>Call it a pre-emtpive strike. ;)
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10:24<verydaft>dr|z3d: yes a clean profile same account, or same profile less prefs.js works as well. Although since I've seen the same thing at home I'm still curious. Also wondering if any of the extra 23KB of prefs.js matters, most of it seems to be printer settings (sigh)
10:25<dr|z3d>verydaft: It'sa preference you've tweaked, most likely. Printer defs I doubt have any bearing on the issue.
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10:25<dr|z3d>Like I said, tweaking maximum concurrent connection settings I've seen break sites before.
10:26<dr|z3d>Enabling pipelining also can have negative consequences.
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10:30<verydaft>dr|z3d: yeah, but it isn't one of those (checked them) .....
10:31<verydaft>dr|z3d: Ah it is enabling the "Auto Detect - Character Encoding - Universal" (diff of prefs.js and deleting all those that I could reasonably assume wouldn't happen and reading it carefully....).
10:32<dr|z3d>verydaft: I leave it in your capable hands to diff those prefs files and find the offending setting :)
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10:33<verydaft>Now all I need to do is remember why I fiddled with the autodetect settings ;(
10:33<dr|z3d>Progress, at least, verydaft :)
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10:39<verydaft>Thanks guys
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10:50<InkBottle>I'm trying to downgrade and it doesn't want to downgrade even 1 single package
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10:54<InkBottle>ok, only aptitude refuses to do the job
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11:10<klando>Hi , some of you success in : "zsync"
11:10<klando>it failed every time to retrieve data
11:11<sladi>klando: I can wget it
11:11<gsimmons>dpkg: zsync
11:11<dpkg>rumour has it, zsync is a file transfer program which uses the <rsync> algorithm. If a file's previous version is locally available, zsync downloads only the changed parts. In order to download Debian daily CD images, use zsync 0.6.1-1 or later (Debian bugs #444159, #468161, #469919) for HTTP redirections to be supported. #zsync on See also <jidgo>.
11:12<klando>sladi, wget is fine
11:12<klando>I have the sid zsync. anyway I'll try again
11:12<klando>tks gsimmons
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11:15<peej>I'm trying to get openoffice on lenny to spellcheck in english. It remains stuck on dutch. Is there a special trick for this?
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11:19<the-dude>peej: did you install the english libary?
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11:25<gsimmons>klando: Looks like you're hitting Debian bug #532818.
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11:27<peej>the-dude, I think so:
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11:28<xeon-enouf>is the english/usa locale installed?
11:29<xeon-enouf>(not sure if it's needed, but seems reasonable ;-))
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11:29<xeon-enouf>do /msg dpkg locales
11:30<JP_Ezzy>Hi all
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11:30*peej installs locales-all
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11:31<JP_Ezzy>need some help playing some trouble playing .wmv files
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11:31<JP_Ezzy>does anyone have a solution ?
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11:33<xeon-enouf>JP_Ezzy: all i know is /msg dpkg dmm
11:33<peej>sigh, no luck
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11:34<xeon-enouf>peej: did you select (to add) usa (en_US...) from dpkg-reconfigure locales?
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11:36<xeon-enouf>JP_Ezzy: might try your #application-channel over on .. or you mean your browser? be specific please - /msg dpkg ask
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11:36<peej>xeon-enouf, purty:/home/peej# dpkg-reconfigure locales
11:36<peej>locales-all installed, skipping locales generation
11:36<zidagar>hi guys
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11:37<bzed>chealer: could you please tell me why you close a bunch of synaptic bugs without any valid reason at all?'assuming this is fixed' is NOT proper way to close bugs, especially not when the mail before your closing mails says that the bug still occurs in the version you've used to close it.
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11:37<chealer>bzed: which bug report are you talking about?
11:38<bzed>chealer: #544416 for example.
11:38<xeon-enouf>hrm, i see a | [ ] All locales choice now - never noticed that before (sid/squeeze)
11:38<famelix>hi, i'm need help with apache...please, anyone?
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11:39<bzed>chealer: and even if the others are fixed, 'assuming this is fixed is *not* a proper way to close bugs.
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11:39<bzed>chealer: be nice to people, ask them to try to reproduce the bug again, and so on. Don't make a mess and piss off people.
11:40<chealer>bzed: the mail doesn't say that
11:40<bzed>chealer: learn reading, and read again.
11:40<chealer>bzed: Michael already asked that.
11:40<chealer>bzed: I know how to read, thanks anyway.
11:41<bzed>chealer: did you ask the maintainer if you're supposed to mess with his bugs?
11:41<chealer>!tell famelix about ask
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11:46<famelix>tkx, chealer. i'm trying setup a new site in apache, but ever gets 500 error...
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11:51<famelix>i'm found the error...using scriptalias where need be alias
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12:02<orjan>I have an win share mounted with type cifs. If I change permissions on the win share do I have to do the mount again to make the permissions to change on the linux side?
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12:03<bzed>orjan: just change it, it is supposed to work on the fly :)
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12:04<orjan>bzed: I have changed the win side but not remounted because there are users on hte share
12:04*debiandeveloper is away: im not here right now
12:05<orjan>bzed: I have problem with amanda doing increment backups on all files
12:05<bzed>orjan: I have no clue if that is possible on a cifs mount at all
12:05<orjan>bzed: ok, thanks
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12:22<jelly>hi, how do I update the reporter email address for all my bug reports?
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12:28<chealer>jelly: see
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12:29<jelly>eh, submitter, and here I was searching for reporter.
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12:30<jelly>chealer: thanks!
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12:37<jelly>chealer: can I also get[censored] output in parsable output?
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12:38<bzed>jelly: apt-get install devscripts; man bts
12:39<jthomas_sb_>is it possible to get an IP Address from someone's netbios name?
12:39<bzed>jelly: bts select submitter:youremailaddy
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12:40<bzed>jelly: and you probably want to limit that to open bugs or so
12:40<klando>hi again, the debian-testing-netinst-i386 is still because of a bug fixed in 1.0.17 of debootstrao
12:40<jelly>ah, not show?
12:40<jelly>bzed: nah, I want everything, in an unlikely case there's something non-spammy sent to an old report
12:40<klando>so we are going to wait the full period of 10 days before it can introduce the cd image ?
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12:42<bzed>jelly: bts submitter `bts select submitter:youremailaddy status:open` yournewemail
12:42<chealer>jelly: not show, that uses a broser
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12:43<bzed>jelly: not sure if that works as expected, better be careful...
12:44<jelly>right, I'll probably not do something stupid. Probably.
12:44<bzed>jelly: probably ensure that the select selects the right thing first :)
12:45<chealer>klando: no, current netinsts are built from unstable
12:45<jelly>eh, rng seems to have incompatible or bad description... " -- Returns all the bugs filed by SUBMITTER"
12:46<jelly>oh well, I can deal with this now, thanks for all the pointers
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12:57<bzed>jelly: and should be the same
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13:08<klando>chealer, ah, nice, thank you
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13:59<n00b>Hello world , I need a vpn server ip address
13:59<n00b>can somebody help me ?
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14:00<n00b>I ve got a problem , my ADSL box ( a livebox from orange à
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14:00<n00b>has bugged
14:00<n00b>and it redirect my http:// address to it web server
14:00<valdyn>n00b: how is vpn going to fix that?
14:00<n00b>so when i go to , i am redirected to
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14:01<n00b>I think VPN will bypass this redirection because , my bro can plays wow
14:01<n00b>so the box
14:01<n00b>blocks only http connections on port 80
14:01<valdyn>n00b: use your isps proxy
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14:02<n00b>Of course , but I haven t got any IP proxy address
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14:02<n00b>and I don t know how to setup my OS to use proxy
14:03<n00b>could you give me a proxy ip ( from for example )
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14:06<the-dude>n00b: can't you configure your live box?
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14:06<n00b>no ,
14:06<n00b>it redirect to
14:06<the-dude>yeah isn't that fine?
14:06<the-dude>what do you want to do anyway
14:07<n00b>I will configure my router or my desktop to use a proxy for example
14:07<n00b>My networks is like that
14:08<the-dude>why do you need a proxy? you could use the router instead?
14:08<n00b>how ?
14:09<the-dude>afaik I works the same as a windows computer
14:09<the-dude>get a lease a browse
14:10<n00b>hum ok...
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14:31<DarkMike>Hey! :)
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14:41<neutrino>i recently deleted xorg.conf file, still i was able to get gui mode, is there some change in configuration of x sever in lenny?
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14:44<dkr>neutrino: well, the recetn versions can work without config, yes, they are better at guessing what drivers needed and the like
14:45<dkr>but deleting a config file would never result in turning off software anyway. what exactly do you want to accomplish?
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14:49<neutrino>dkr, i tried to install the nvidia driver, but the installer terminated saying wrong kernel module, then i treid to configur xorg file through nvidia-xorg-server , this resulted in xserver error, then i again treid to configured it throug "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it exited after i inserted few details for the keyboard settings.
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14:50<dkr>which method are you using to install nvidia driver?
14:50<neutrino>then i deleted to xorg.conf file completely form /etc/X11/ directory
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14:50<urbinek>dkr: apt-get install nvidia-glx
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14:50<dkr>urbinek: eh, how do you know what he is using?
14:51<neutrino>i have tried to installed it via synaptic, i even downloaded the ".run" file and stopped the gdm and tried to installed, but it failed.
14:51<urbinek>dkr: oh sorry i thought that you are asking ^^"
14:51<dpkg>To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia ( Ask me about <nvidia squeeze>.
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14:53<dkr>neutrino: if you tell us what the exact errors were maybe we can give an idea how to resolve them
14:53<neutrino>i tried that too, but being new to linux, got stuck during the process
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14:53<neutrino>my screen resolution is limited to 800X600 only
14:54<neutrino>and i have nvidia Geforce 5500 graphic card installed in my system with via chipshet
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14:55<urbinek>i can't change my WiFi card into Master mode, what's going on ?
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15:01<chealer>urbinek: which driver do you use?
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15:02<urbinek>i've install frimware-ralink from repo
15:03<urbinek>i should install something else ?
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15:08<urbinek>will it work on this card ?
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15:09<chealer>urbinek: no. assuming you're using rt2x00, since when does that support master mode?
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15:11<urbinek>chealer: hmm so maybe can i use other driver that support master mode or this card is useless for AP ?
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15:18<Ignaz>hi, all
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15:28<urbinek>how can i check if i can set those cards in Master mode ?
15:28<InkBottle>Hi, I've added a third hard disk. fdisk -l says "/dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label"
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15:29<InkBottle>I don't remember what I did last time to set the disk
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15:33<chealer>urbinek: there's no methodic way. you can check
15:33<chealer>urbinek: the Realtek seems to support it
15:34<ert34>When I create two different partitions, each one as crypto I can't use both of them to be unlocked at the same time even with the same passphrase. I want do it. Is it possible?
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15:34<chealer>urbinek: there's also The RT61 may support it, but that may depend on the version
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15:36<urbinek>chealer: so then how to install those drivers fow RT61 ?
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15:36<chealer>urbinek: it would be rt61pci which would support it, which you must already be using.
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15:37<chealer>urbinek: which Linux version do you use?
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15:37<r4y3k>hi *
15:38<Ignaz>hi, r4y3k
15:38<r4y3k>hi Ignaz
15:39<urbinek>chealer: brb
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15:44<Woet>is it possible to show the output of a file without the color codes it contains?
15:45<Woet>i want it to look clean, currently it looks like ^[[1A^[[1000D^[[0K^[[1A^[[1000D^[[0K^[[31;1mBot^[[37m '^[[34m
15:47<locklace>Woet: less -R
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15:48<Woet>nothing changed?
15:48<locklace>then either they aren't real escape codes, or your terminal can't handle them
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15:49<locklace>some of that junk isn't color codes anyway, so try less -r also
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15:50<Woet>seems pretty colorful to me
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15:55<chealer>urbinek: maybe a newer Linux would bring a rt61pci which supports master mode.
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15:56<urbinek>chealer: and what about this driver from ralinktech ?
15:56<urbinek>i wanna check it first
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15:57<urbinek>ok, good beginning, a lot of files and no
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15:58<urbinek>chealer: how to install it ?
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15:59<chealer>urbinek: I don't think I ever used it. I wouldn't expect it to support master mode.
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15:59<ert34>Does debian use guttman to wipe my hd?
15:59<Woet>seems it's impossible
15:59<chealer>urbinek: I can't support that driver. other channels may know more about rt61pci's master mode support, like #kernel.
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16:01<urbinek>whoever i'll tru
16:01<urbinek>try *
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16:18<leper>hello everybody =)
16:19<leper>i have a problem with my camera, it don't work on kde
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16:22<leper>hello adb =)
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16:22<bja>leper: usually a usb multiple card reader works best
16:23<leper>on my laptop?
16:23<bja>yep those are tiny handy devices
16:24<bja>i usually carry 4 card for my camera ranging from 512Mb to 4Gb
16:24<leper>and how i can fix it to make work my camera, and my mousepad
16:24<leper>that both things don't work now
16:25<bja>leper: check that your powersavings conf is not disabling usb ports
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16:25<leper>when i concet to AC it doen't work too
16:26*bja and kde are no longer friends
16:27<leper>it don't have nothing on kpowersave
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16:30<weebl>I'd like to download kernel source - anyone know where I can get it.
16:30<weebl>Debian 2.6.26-2
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16:31<leper>weebl, <---seek there
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16:32<chealer>weebl: the architecture doesn't matter, it's in linux-source
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16:33<leper>anyone can help me to config the camera and the mousepad of my laptop?
16:34<locklace>!tell leper about how to ask
16:34<weebl>thx got it
16:35<leper>thankt ou locklace
16:36<leper>i'm on debian lenny, i have a laptop compaq 515, and my mousepad and camera doesn't work now since i have install kde
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16:59<urbinek>chealer: i've vompiled drivers and still thar same error... i think i'll buy another card
16:59<Blood>hi all
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17:03<csotelo>hi people..
17:03<csotelo>plz just a question
17:03<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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17:04<csotelo>why zend framewrok is not on the deb repositories?
17:04<tuxcrafter>hi all can somebody show me an example how to convert the following interfaces setup to the correct bridge format defined in the man bridge-utils-interfaces
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17:06<asdtemp>Using debian testing, gnome, kernel 2.6.30-1, I have no desktop (the desktop icons) and no desktop popup menu (right click). Is this a known issue?
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17:07<bja>asdtemp: depends on DE
17:07<asdtemp>Should I know what DE means?
17:07<bja>Desktop Environment
17:07<asdtemp>Gnome, gdm.
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17:10<wnd>judd versions zendframework
17:10<judd>wnd: zendframework -- squeeze: 1.9.2-1 sid: 1.9.2-2
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17:11<asdtemp>or which package provides the desktop itself?
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17:11<asdtemp>(to be dpkg-reconfigure-d or so)
17:11<simonrvn>gdm = dm ; gnome = de
17:12<simonrvn>asdtemp: nautilus...
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17:13<tuxcrafter>would this be a good conversion of the manual bridge commands "
17:13<asdtemp>I somewhy thought it only does file-browsing :S
17:14<asdtemp>I think, it was disabled at my startup programs, starting it manually worked
17:14<asdtemp>thank you all
17:15<asdtemp>And one more, please: every restart my resolv.conf is truncated. Any reasons or workarounds?
17:16<wnd>if you have network-manager installed, it may overwrite resolv.conf
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17:17<asdtemp>Yes, it's installed, I use it to set my DNS every boot :)
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17:20<wasserfrauen>anyone can help me I need to install Debian on a Mips Yeeloong Lemote!!
17:20<jthomas_sb_>what package provides mount.smbfs on Sid?
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17:21<wnd>jthomas_sb_, smbfs I think
17:22<jthomas_sb_>wnd looks right, thanks
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17:24<dexter>I'd like to restore a manually edited xorg.conf to a fresh one - how would I do that?
17:25<Blood>i was wondering, how do you call the cd that can install Sid or squeeze or anyhting else ?
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17:26<Blood>i think i heard something about some cd (not a standard netinst) where you can choose to install squeeze immediatly for example.
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17:26<locklace>dexter: X -configure > fresh.conf
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17:26<dexter>thanks, locklace
17:27<icebrain>you need to shutdown Xorg first, afaik
17:27<adb> X -configure :1
17:28<locklace>i really don't want to know what a "Mips Yeeloong Lemote" is
17:29<dexter>adb: still an empty fiel (I touched it beforehand)
17:29<dexter>*file even
17:29<locklace>dexter: run it as root
17:30<dexter>ill kill x now altogether.
17:30<dexter>locklace: I did
17:30<adb>read message that is coming whit X -configure :1
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17:31<Blood>does anyone have an idea for my netinst that install squeeze immediatly ?
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17:34<dexter>duh. it was saved under /root.
17:35<dexter>and now i dont have german keyboard anymore plus the original plan to restore other modes failed....
17:35<dexter>why cant I have 1280x960 at 90 or 100 hz? the monitor sure supports it
17:36<dexter>how can I force that mode?
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17:38<adb>dexter, there are tons of xorg.conf on google
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17:44<Blood>petemc: i dont want lenny :/
17:46<petemc>Blood: i know
17:48<petemc>if you cant find the testing installer from that page, then theres a chance you might struggle to contend with some of the issues you'll encounter using testing or sid
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17:49<Blood>well i dunno, but i heard of some box something that does that kind of installation
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17:52<hxB5>Hi all, i am trying from a live CD to access the GRUB file located in my /boot folder on an encrypted LVM... which i have decrypted and mounted properly. However, the /boot folder seems to be empty. is that normal?
17:53<azeem>hxB5: it's normal if /boot is its own parition
17:53<dpkg>folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes.
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17:53<hxB5>should have thought of that...
17:54<hxB5>right, /boot cannot be inside an encrypted LVM i think
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17:55<hxB5>it needs to be on a separated partition
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18:21<jseakle>Quick question: I just ran apt-get upgrade after not logging in for a long time. it says it needs 400MB of archives, but after unpacking 500k will be freed. Does this really mean the sum total of about 200 upgrades is less space than the currently installed versions are using?
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18:22<Seneca>I've got a question myself. I'm trying to connect to a serial terminal server with my Debian computer. IS there some package I can apt-get to do this?
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18:26<stuckey_>When using mocp I get FATAL_ERROR: Can't send() int to the server. --- the program then freezes.
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18:27<bja>stuckey: check that you have the server installed
18:27<stuckey>I need the server? I've been using mocp for months on this same machine... this is the first time it has done this.
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18:42<Seneca>Nvm, I found the answer to my question. Have a good one.
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18:56<xeon-enouf>gsimmons: thanks for adding to <grub2 squeeze> factoid
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19:03<adb>!grub2 squeeze.
19:03<dpkg>Heads up folks! The squeeze installers (at least the daily images for now) are now using GRUB 2 (grub-pc) by default; see for more. Don't want it? Boot in expert mode and select GRUB Legacy instead.
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19:56<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
19:56<baio>estoy probando este irc
19:56<dr|z3d>baio: probando en ingles, por favor.
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19:57<baio>I'm testing this irc
19:58<dr|z3d>Do you have a Debian question you need help with?
19:59<baio>I'm just seeing how to use it
19:59<bja>dr|z3d: your spanish is improving :)
20:00<baio>cost me a little English
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20:01<dr|z3d>baio: Please /join #debian-offtopic and you'll get a much better idea. Or, better still, /join #moocows :)
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20:19<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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20:22<bnave>I'm having a problem with installing Debian 5.0.3 from a netinst and full dvd iso on a PowerBook G3. When the installer gets to the "Select and install software" screen, right after the "Running tasksel..." process, it hangs. If I Ctrl+Alt+F4, there is a message that says "Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security. You should only proceed with the installation if you are...
20:22<bnave>...certain that this is what you want to do. <list of packages> Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway? To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No":" This is coming from in-target
20:22<bnave>is there a way that i can run the installer with no package verify or something?
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20:23<bnave>Could this be happening because my clock is set to the epoch?
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20:24<bnave>or is there a really easy way that i can answer "Yes" that I've totally missed?
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20:26<babilen>bnave: Could it be that you are trying to install with an "old" CD?
20:26<el>wena weon
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20:26<babilen>it is really strange! exactly the same thing happened to a friend of me today.
20:27<bnave>babilen: do you mean the age of the dvd-r that i used or the age of the iso i got?
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20:27<babilen>bnave: the iso
20:27<bnave>i just downloaded the iso yesterday
20:28<bnave>i guess i could try to go find a version of 5.0.2
20:29<babilen>bnave: That is indeed really strange.
20:29<bnave>'s bugging the crap out of me
20:29<babilen>bnave: Why 5.0.2 ?
20:29<bnave>i have the same issue with the full dvd and the net install
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20:30<bnave>oh...i thought you meant to go get a different iso to try
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20:30<babilen>bnave: I would love to help you now, but I was very busy at that time and he "solved" it by downloading a new image
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20:31<babilen>bnave: The problem is indeed strange, the packages on the CD should be trusted... It does not matter if there are new GPG keys releases, because the CD does not "know" about that
20:32<bnave>right....i thought it may have been because I selected "yes" to the do you want to use a mirror to check for updated packages question
20:32<bnave>so i re-ran the install and selected no, but it still hangs
20:33<babilen>bnave: is it a netinst or a different cd?
20:33<bnave>same problem with netinst and dvd
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20:35<babilen>bnave: That needs to be investigated. I shrugged it off before, but you are the second one today to experience that problem
20:35<bnave>file a ticket?
20:36<babilen>bnave: do you have some 'Trusted: ... "CDROM"' somewhere in /etc/apt/* ?
20:36<babilen>bnave: something like that, i can't remember the exact line
20:37<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try or . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges
20:37<bnave>theres a trustdb.gpg, trusted.gpg, trusted.gpg~
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20:38<babilen>bnave: yes, i mean within the files. Probably apt.conf
20:39<bnave>hmmm....well in /target/etc/apt/apt.conf.d there is a 00trustcdrom file
20:39<babilen>bnave: grep -rie "trust" /etc/apt/
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20:40<bnave>do you mean /etc/apt or /target/etc/apt
20:40<bnave>there is no /etc/apt
20:41<babilen>bnave: /target/etc/apt and paste the result to
20:41<babilen>bnave: if there is any
20:41<bnave>and the only hit in /target/etc/apt is apt.conf.d/00trustcdrom
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20:42<bnave>APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";
20:42<babilen>bnave: Ok, that is exactly the line i was hoping for.
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20:42<babilen>bnave: I have no idea what is going on here.
20:43<babilen>bnave: File a bug, include a thorough description of which iso's you tried, the problem and the content of that file
20:43<bnave>ok...will do...thanks for your help babilen
20:44<babilen>bnave: Guess you could try installing with a 5.0.2 iso.
20:44<babilen>bnave: Do you plan to upgrade to squeeze (testing) ?
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20:59<sdsdsd>Guys, after i install grub-pc, my windows partition can't boot anymore. when i try i get "bootmgr.exe is missing"
20:59<sdsdsd>do anyone have some error like that?
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21:03<sdsdsd>anybody knows how to solve it by linux?
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21:15<babilen>bnave: you still here?
21:16<bnave>sorry...i was afk
21:16<bnave>is squeeze 5.0.4?
21:16<babilen>bnave: I think you might want to try downloading the iso from a different mirror (see #377747 for a similar problem in 2006)
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21:17<babilen>bnave: no, squeeze is debian testing, 5.0.X are releases for debian stable (lenny)
21:18<bnave>babilen: huh...interesting....
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21:18<chealer>bnave: no, squeeze will be Debian 6
21:19<bnave>chealer: gotcha
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21:22<babilen>bnave: which CDs have you tried?
21:23<bnave>I've tried this one:
21:23<bnave>and debian-503-powerpc-DVD-1.iso
21:23<bnave>i'm checking the md5sum on the DVD now...
21:23<babilen>bnave: thanks for the information.
21:24*adb noted
21:25<bnave>390590725c04133dee139af91ff22f22 debian-503-powerpc-DVD-1.iso --> Mine
21:25<bnave>390590725c04133dee139af91ff22f22 debian-503-powerpc-DVD-1.iso --> From
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21:26<bnave>So that should mean that I'm legit right?
21:26<babilen>bnave: hang on.
21:28<babilen>bnave: yes
21:28<babilen>bnave: I will try to reproduce that error tomorrow when i get my hands on a ppc machine.
21:29<babilen>bnave: This seems to be a bug
21:29<bnave>babilen: thanks...that would be great. FYI, I opened ticket #548128 for this
21:29<babilen>bnave: thanks for the bug report!
21:30<bnave>no there a way to get a netinst iso for squeeze?
21:30<bnave>or would it be better to try to find a 5.0.2 iso and upgrade from there?
21:31<adb> better try 5.0.2
21:31<babilen>bnave: I am almost certain that 5.0.2 will work for you
21:32<bnave>cool...i will see if I can track a copy down
21:32<babilen>bnave: Sorry for the inconvenience
21:33<bnave>babilen: no big deal. just glad that i'm not crazy
21:33<babilen>bnave: like most of us ;-)
21:33<adb>not yet , hehe
21:33<bnave>lol...what's the saying? nobody is as crazy as all of us?
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22:27<hypyrbole>if I want to rm everything in a directory apart from *.avi & *.nfo, what's the syntax?
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22:28<dondelelcaro>hypyrbole: find+exec+rm or find+xargs+rm
22:29<dondelelcaro>(or even find+rm
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22:29<hypyrbole>thx dondelecaro
22:29<dondelelcaro>(err, find+delete, not find+rm)
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22:40<bnave>anyone know where I can get ISOs for powerpc for 5.0.2?
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22:41<dondelelcaro>bnave: you almost certainly want 5.0.3
22:41*vineyard chuckles
22:41<vineyard>asked dpkg about lenny->testing
22:41<bnave>not really....see
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22:42<dondelelcaro>bnave: oh, it doesn't have the right archive key; using 5.0.2 probably wouldn't help
22:43<bnave>dondelelcaro: is there a way to get the installer to work then?
22:43<dondelelcaro>bnave: you should be able to install the base system, and then continue on.
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22:43<bnave>so...skip the package selection part?
22:43<dondelelcaro>bnave: skip selecting a mirror for starters
22:44<bnave>yep...did that
22:44<dondelelcaro>bnave: ok, then you can kill the apt-get command which is failing from the console, and try rerunning it and provide the full output
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22:57<bnave>dondelelcaro: thanks for your help. I'll give that a try, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. i'm beat. have a good night
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23:00<adb>bnave, i may confirm your issue whit netinstall 5.0.3 ppc
23:01<bnave>thanks adb, that would be helpful
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23:03<adb>tty 4 get message you posted "untrusted blabla and yes /no" things
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23:10<bnave>adb: yes, it was tty4 that i saw that on
23:11*adb erased previews lenny ppc
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23:30<OverBoil>anyone in here know much about remote desktop?
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23:34<OverBoil>can anyone help me?
23:34<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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23:36<OverBoil>!ask im trying to figure out how to get a remote desktop server workin on my simply mepis debian box here, i installed xrdp so that i would not need a client side program so i can just use the windows xp remote desktop tool
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23:39<paulo>hello people
23:40<OverBoil>how are you
23:40<paulo>i am paulo ricardo
23:40<paulo>from brazil
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23:40<OverBoil>im here in tasmania
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23:42<adb>bnave, to finish installation skip ALL what tasksel propose , let installation to finish , reboot and install what you want , i have done right now all this steps and all worked nice.
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