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---Logopened Wed Oct 14 00:00:02 2009
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00:00<MikeeUSA>another nice long post about me
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00:00<MikeeUSA>I'm sorry, I get a little narcissistic sometimes.
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00:00<MikeeUSA>Maybe each week we can hope: another article about me!
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00:00<MikeeUSA>Or women!
00:01<MikeeUSA>we can have being a site that's actually read.
00:01<MikeeUSA>Remeber a few weeks ago with carla's sexism in opensource topic
00:01<MikeeUSA>100+ posts
00:01<MikeeUSA>vs 0 as normal
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00:01<MikeeUSA>they're taking a page from slashdot
00:02<MikeeUSA>and when they're written by dykes that don't much like men, oh that really get's everyone steaming
00:02<MikeeUSA>heh, it's funny, there's people like "RBowen (richard bowen)" that hang around them hoping to score with Makinzie Morgan
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00:03<MikeeUSA>the only non-dyke of the group.
00:03<ua0ljj>anybody here
00:03<MikeeUSA>but, a female with bad attitude isn't much worth is it.
00:03<MikeeUSA>ua0ljj, I am, do you need help with debian?
00:03<MikeeUSA>I've used it for a very many years.
00:03<MikeeUSA>It is an excellent distribution.
00:04<ua0ljj>yes i need ! thanks
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00:04<MikeeUSA>ok, explain what problem
00:06<ua0ljj>problem -> i have name of file whith blank code
00:07<ua0ljj>for example -> 123
00:08<ua0ljj>and when i want unzip this file , a cant this doing
00:08<MikeeUSA>unzip 123\
00:08<MikeeUSA> \ is an escape character
00:08<MikeeUSA>it means "next character take as literal"
00:09<ua0ljj>ok / now i test this
00:09<ua0ljj>wait moment
00:09<MikeeUSA> \
00:09<MikeeUSA>not /
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00:09<MikeeUSA> \
00:09<MikeeUSA> \ is over the enter key
00:10<k1lumin4t1>has anybody used FAI?
00:11<MikeeUSA>ua0ljj, did that work for you?
00:11<MikeeUSA>k1lumin4t1, what is FAI?
00:11<dpkg>an automated installation tool to install or deploy Debian GNU/Linux and other distributions on a bunch of different hosts or a Cluster. It's more flexible than other tools like kickstart for Red Hat, autoyast and alice for SuSE or Jumpstart for SUN Solaris. FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. channel: #fai site:
00:11<k1lumin4t1>MikeeUSA, Fully Automated Installation
00:11<k1lumin4t1>Hideo, thanks
00:12<k1lumin4t1>I was just trying to get some feeadback and insight on it, though
00:12<k1lumin4t1>some thoughts, ideas, points of view and recommendations on it
00:12<Hideo>I haven't, but maybe stick around, somebody will wake up from their slumber
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00:14<MikeeUSA>that sounds cool
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00:14<MikeeUSA>but it won't get me a 14 yr old wife
00:14<MikeeUSA>not wife-master
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00:17<MikeeUSA>I noticed that there is a large percentage of /germans/ contributing to free software.
00:18<MikeeUSA>This is almost as troubling as the lack of women contributing to free software
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00:18<MikeeUSA>Remeber the LAST time germany contributed to the world?
00:19<MikeeUSA>My grandparents do
00:19<Solus>They did produce some highly advanced stuff.
00:19<MikeeUSA>they do, alot
00:19<MikeeUSA>Solus, with which to murder 12 million people
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00:20<MikeeUSA>Imagine if germany were ever truly an independent country again.
00:20<MikeeUSA>With no american-drafted constituion ensuring women's rights
00:20<MikeeUSA>and no foreign bases keeping the german people in check
00:21<MikeeUSA>would we think that their ability to create whatever technology they put their minds to is a //good// thing?
00:21<Solus>I sincerely doubt they'd make a repeat attempt at world domination, lol.
00:21<MikeeUSA>germany, unchecked?
00:21<MikeeUSA>Solus, third time's a charm?
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00:21<MikeeUSA>I mean, in america, let's face it, we're dumb
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00:22<Solus>Yes, you can't tar entire generations with the same brush, values and leaders change.
00:22<MikeeUSA>we import many of our brightest minds and, STILL, 1/2 of the scientific papers seem to be coming out of germany
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00:22<Solus>If anyone starts a new world war I think it would be the US :/
00:22<MikeeUSA>The war on Islam isn't world-wide?
00:23<MikeeUSA>didn't know that, I thought we were allready in a medium-intensity world war
00:23<sney>amazing, I left and went to safeway and I come back and the troll is still here
00:23<sney>hey MikeeUSA, do you have stairs in your house?
00:23<MikeeUSA>Solus, do you want an independent germany
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00:23<MikeeUSA>sney, many
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00:24<MikeeUSA>I walk them.
00:24<MikeeUSA>Buy GM stepts
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00:25<MikeeUSA>Solus, if someone was going to give you a pretty 14 year old girl, and she was nice, would you accept the gift and keep her as your sekret house wife
00:25<Solus>o.o Probably not
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00:25<Solus>Those 14 year olds fetch a hefty price on eBay
00:25<MikeeUSA>Solus, why not?
00:26<MikeeUSA>no, I mean if this was reality
00:26<MikeeUSA>you can't sell people on ebay
00:26<MikeeUSA>if you could, then we'd all have what we want
00:26<Solus>I hear otherwise :P
00:26<sney>!ops seriously are you all in europe time zones or what
00:26<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: sney complains about: seriously are you all in europe time zones or what
00:26<MikeeUSA>though the chinese did just clone a mouse from a mouse skin cell
00:27<MikeeUSA>so maybe soon they'll be selling people on ebay
00:27<MikeeUSA>!ops sney is freaking out, fuck her
00:27<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: mikeeusa complains about: sney is freaking out, fuck her
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00:27<MikeeUSA>mah man
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00:29<LoRez>known troll is known.
00:29<sney>trolling troll was trolling for a long time
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00:30<sney>don't go far LoRez he's probably going to evade again
00:31<ua0ljj>MikeeUSA it working!!!
00:31<ua0ljj>big thanks
00:31<Hideo>heh, the troll helped somebody =P
00:32<sney>I know
00:32<sney>ua0ljj: you can also type the beginning of a file name and press the TAB key, it will often complete the rest for you
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00:32<Hideo>also "file name"
00:33<ua0ljj>yes i no
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00:33<ua0ljj>yes i know
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00:36<sortadi>any other automated installation method for deploying massive installations on a large number of hosts different from FAI?
00:37<sney>sortadi: partimage, if the workstations all have the same hardware configuration
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00:43<ua0ljj>so anybody talk me&
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00:45<ua0ljj>where is find soft for sniffing packets from eth0 or eth1 device and write this to log?
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00:46<ua0ljj>i want see all steps users on my server
00:46<Hideo>ua0ljj: wireshark, tshark, tcpdump, take your pick
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00:47<capnmikey>so i'm finally taking the linux plunge!
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00:47<sney>capnmikey: congrats :)
00:47<capnmikey>i'm sure you all must be very excited for me.
00:48<sney>I always like to see new converts
00:48<capnmikey>thanks! so far it's confusing and mildly frustrating :D
00:48<capnmikey>i've been using windows for too long D:
00:48<sney>it's a learning process
00:48<sney>you'll be better for it.
00:48<capnmikey>i know, i feel like i've only been half the geek i could have been most of my life
00:49<ua0ljj>so i know tcpdump. bun i thinking my users deceive me and usig alterative ports
00:49<ua0ljj>and other freeproxy
00:49<capnmikey>i was wondering if you can get OpenGL graphics without installing a desktop or XWindows dealy
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00:50<ua0ljj>i not using desktop
00:50<sortadi>ua0ljj, snort
00:50<ua0ljj>web application on debian server
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00:51<sney>capnmikey: it might be possible but it would probably be a big pain in the butt. there are minimal desktop options if you want to stay away from the clutter of gnome or kde, though.
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00:52<ua0ljj>gnome good. but not for server
00:53<capnmikey>boo! nothing against clutter, i was just hoping to recreate my MS-DOS days of yesteryears XD but if it's gonna be a pain, maybe i'll go with the desktop
00:53<ua0ljj>webmin it is good programm
00:53<dpkg>from memory, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality.
00:53<sney>ua0ljj: what about ettercap? it's a console-based traffic sniffer, you can look at *everything* passing through the system
00:54<ua0ljj>passing though the my system?
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00:55<ua0ljj>or all any packets
00:55<sney>if you're looking for suspicious network activity, a packet sniffer is a great way to see what's going on
00:55<ua0ljj>yes but i want sniffing another gateway too
00:56<ua0ljj>now i using ntop and no so good programm
00:56<sney>try ettercap, it's good
00:57<ua0ljj>i seaching sniffer whith web application
00:57<ua0ljj>ok will finf
00:57<Hideo>sney: I think maybe he wants a web interface for a sniffer *shrugs*
00:57<sney>Hideo: yeah I guess that's what he's saying
00:58<sney>hence the fm link
00:58<sney>if it exists, that's where to find it ;)
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00:58<ua0ljj>so no matter
00:59<ua0ljj>i seaching as sniffer and web interface too
00:59<ua0ljj>sorry for my english
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01:32<capnmikey>hmmm. so now that i'm lamenting my decision not to install a desktop...can i just get a package? or do i need to reinstall?
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01:35<dpkg>it has been said that tasksel is a program to select and install "tasks": a collection of packages for a system to perform a specific task (e.g. desktop environment, web server). Ask me about <standard task>, <server tasks> and <laptop task>.
01:35<jm_>capnmikey ^^^^
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01:36<capnmikey>ooo, neat! but i thought packages automagically installed all dependencies?
01:36<jm_>you did?
01:36<capnmikey>yeah! don't they?
01:36<jm_>apt does yes
01:36<capnmikey>the ones i installed so far sure did O_O
01:37<capnmikey>er, yeah, i've been using "aptitude"
01:37<jm_>yup, same deal
01:37<capnmikey>ah, cool
01:37<capnmikey>okay, i think i wanna install things one at a time...for some strange reason
01:38<capnmikey>so i can just install KDE, and then whatever additional apps i want and it's all good?
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01:38<jm_>!install kde
01:38<dpkg>For KDE3, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at the boot prompt of any of the installers. For more details, see See also <kde version> <install kde4>
01:40<capnmikey>sweet, thanks!
01:40<capnmikey>and...thanks dpkg!
01:40<sney>!beer capnmikey
01:40*dpkg pours a litre of Franziskaner Hefeweizen for capnmikey
01:41<capnmikey>free speech AND free beer, i think i could get used to this XD
01:43<capnmikey>!install kdevelop
01:44<capnmikey>aw, the bot is holding out on me :(
01:44<dpkg>it has been said that kdevelop is the best developing software, especially as it's KDE, or available at
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01:45<capnmikey>!kde studio
01:45<kop>capnmikey: The only package that does not automatically install as a dependency, afik, is xorg.
01:45<capnmikey>!kdevelop vs kde studio
01:46<kop>capnmikey: Please /msg the bot to keep the clutter down. /msg dpkg foo
01:46<capnmikey>roger that!
01:46<kop>capnmikey: No worries.
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02:41<mish>Help! :) - I know winbind and samba, I know LDAP. I've used winbind and samba to get a machine "on the active directory" domain and use kerebos auth, and I've used LDAP to get users logged in with the ad unix UID and GID. What I want is winbind/samba style kerebos authentication but to use the actual UID and GID that is stored in our extended Active Directory structure, not the randomly chosen "idmap uid" samba chooses. Any ideas?
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03:38<alephnull>What is the distinction between the dialout and dip groups ? USB modem are created with group dialout but pppd has group dip.
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03:58<Bergerac-Fleur>hi, I'm wondering how do I calibrate my monitor using the monitor's hardware controls or nvidia-settings?
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04:13<azeem>grub2 might
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04:19<theo_>@all: i'm looking for a tablet-notebook being supported by debian (testing)
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04:31<theo_>ich suche ein tablet-notebook, das unter debian (testing) läuft ...
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04:33<azeem>theo_: this is an english channel
04:33<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
04:33<azeem>theo_: the thinkpad tablets usually work fin
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04:34<theo_>what about fujitsu(siemens)?
04:34<azeem>no idea
04:34<theo_>ok *g
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04:53<jolo>I think I am back.
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04:56<ozzle>Hi, someone who would like to help me installing ATI drivers?
04:57<ghantoos>ozzle: did you check out the wiki?
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05:02<jolo>On the Debian site it says to add a line to the /etc/apt/sources.list , I always get confused on that, Text Editor than add or Terminal then add?
05:03<jm_>it doesn't matter how you do it
05:03<jolo>jm_: Thank you
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05:04<jm_>jolo: no worries
05:06<jolo>I may have messed something up, is saying that my password is cached, what is the process to remedy that?
05:08<jolo>I did not choose or set up the LVM stuff, yet. Just giving it a spin in anticipation of the KDE/BSD thing that is coming up.
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05:10<jm_>who is sayinbg that, sudo?
05:10<jolo>Everything, synaptics, Administrative Tasks, etc.etc.
05:11<jm_>yeah so probably sudo then
05:11<jolo>okee dokee, Thank you
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05:12<jm_>man sudo explains it in first paragraph
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05:12<Bergerac-Fleur>i think that's gksu's thing
05:12<jm_>so it's normal
05:13<Bergerac-Fleur>when you tried gksu command, did you check "store my password"?
05:13<jm_>are you sure aptitude would use gksu?
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05:13<jolo>I know what I did, I used Terminal to sudo, not Root Terminal?
05:14<jm_>right, so it was sudo, all normal
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05:15<Bergerac-Fleur>oh... nvm
05:15<Bergerac-Fleur>sorry bout that
05:16<jolo>I am relearning this good stuff on the *nix system I first started out with.
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05:32<jolo>Just trying to look at stuff and get to know the Debian again, was on PC-BSD for a while, neat desktop system, but the floatie KDE widgets hurt my eyeballs.
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05:38<jolo>This is fun, again.
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06:05<Chetic>my filesystem seems to have become read-only. how could this have happened and how do I fix it?
06:06<Chetic>think it happened after I finished burning a dvd or when installing an app in synaptic failed
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06:07<azeem>Chetic: first, confirm it is read-only, e.g. by running "mount" and checking the options
06:08<Chetic>ah.. (rw, errors=remount-ro)
06:08<Bergerac-Fleur>maybe synaptic broke something
06:08<azeem>next, check dmesg or the kernel log for errors
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06:09<Chetic>"bad entry in directory ..." seems to have caused the error
06:10<Chetic>probably by growisofs
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06:10<jm_>Chetic: the real reason is not growisofs though
06:11<Chetic>yeah I'm getting lots of clues every day that my hdd is broken
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06:11<jm_>yup, sounds like hardware problem
06:11<jm_>do you have smartmontools installed?
06:11<Chetic>don't think so
06:11<jm_>too late now, I recommend you run badblocks in read-only mode from a live cd/usb/...
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06:12<jm_>and to query smart attributes for tor this drive
06:12<Chetic>heh I can't start any livecd's :P
06:12<vvas>Chetic: while it's mounted read-only, you might as well run fsck on it
06:12<Chetic>all the ones I've tried say something like "Buffer I/O error on device..."
06:12<Chetic>same goes for when trying to install them
06:12<jm_>that usually means it can't read from CD, try USB if you can
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06:13<Chetic>I've tested it with a different burner, reader and different discs though
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06:13<jm_>yeah might be driver issue too
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06:13<vvas>actually, that doesn't make sense
06:14<vvas>what is it exactly that would give buffer i/o errors when booting from a livecd?
06:14<Chetic>I've got the error written down, sec
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06:15<jm_>what do you mean doesn't make sense? kernel has to read from it
06:15<Chetic>"Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 140xxxx"
06:15<vvas>Chetic: and that happens when exactly?
06:15<Chetic>"end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 140xxxx"
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06:15<Chetic>a minute or so after attempting to start the installation of ubuntu
06:16<Chetic>(for example)
06:16<Chetic>Debian is the only OS I could get running :p
06:17<Chetic>I'd really like to know if buying a hdd would fix this, so I'm not just wasting cash
06:17<jolo>Could it be a failed or bad burn, or the actual CD is damaged?
06:17<Chetic>no.. I've spent too many discs on trying that theory
06:17<jolo>had to ask
06:17<Chetic>yeah course
06:18<jolo>Does USB work?
06:18<vvas>bad ide cables? fucked ide controller? cosmic rays? :-p
06:18<Chetic>I don't have any usb-sticks :(
06:18<Chetic>it's s-ata :p
06:18<vvas>s/ide/sata/ then
06:18<Chetic>and no weather is fine
06:18<vvas>(though it makes it less likely)
06:19<jolo>I am leaning towards the cosmic rays theory that was proposed.
06:19<Chetic>alright then!
06:19*Chetic packs his bags
06:20<azeem>Chetic: I'd say try to reboot
06:20<azeem>and if the file system is writable again, install smartmontools and inspect the drive health status
06:21<Chetic>sounds like a plan
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06:21<jolo>You can get a USB for FREE! on the internet, just an email, home address, first puppy dawgs name, SS # and of course CC #, just to make certain you are a Human and not a Cosmic Ray.
06:22<jolo>or a Volgon without a towel.
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06:24<vvas>i'd do fsck on the read-only mounted filesystem from single-user mode before anything else
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06:24<jolo>I forgot how to get a cloak or just make it to where my lousy IP does not appear on entrance/exit of these IRC comms....RTFM?
06:24<vvas>it might be an honest-to-god filesystem error that's causing the problems
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06:25<Chetic>I did fsck and it seemed like it did.. something
06:26<Chetic>now, how do I use smartmontools?
06:26<jolo>I dunno, if Debian loaded and Ubuntu does not, Hardware could be it, doubtful, did the chksum work?
06:27<Chetic>where do I see that?
06:27<vvas>Chetic: man smartctl
06:28<vvas>Chetic: the main thing is that you can order the drive to run short or long self-tests
06:28<themill>jolo: oftc does not normally supply cloaks to users.
06:28<vvas>however, these are generally interrupted if you're doing i/o on the drive, so they're not really an option on a mounted drive
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06:28<jolo>Thank you.
06:29<vvas>(not sure why they were suggested)
06:29<azeem>Chetic: smartctl --all /dev/hda or so
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06:32<Chetic>Well that's not giving me any errors
06:32<Chetic>but it happens in like one second
06:32<azeem>in what?
06:33<azeem>pastebin the output
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06:35<jolo> ,,,it is also explained on almost all distros sites, How To Verify or something.
06:38<Chetic>jolo: I get what a checksum is, but what do you mean when you ask if the chksum worked?
06:39<jolo>Chetic: To make certain that the download or .iso is free of errors and from a good or checked distributor.
06:40<Chetic>ohh you mean of the iso
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06:40<jolo>There is also a md5 and other checks, yes
06:41<Chetic>I downloaded several iso's and tried though
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06:41<Chetic>always the same error
06:41<Chetic>and yes I let the torrent application re-check after it's done downloading
06:41<Chetic>a couple of times
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06:42<jm_>Chetic: it makes more sense to verify burned copy is OK
06:42<jm_>!check iso image
06:42<dpkg>To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD image, see . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum You should compare this md5sum to the checksum for the iso image on the mirror.
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06:45<jolo>It could'nt hurt to check.
06:45<Chetic>I'm sorry I just have a really hard time beleiving I could fail to burn so many iso's in a row
06:45<Chetic>when I've burnt so many in the past without any problems
06:46<simonrvn>crappy blank batch?
06:46<Chetic>yeah I've even used discs from different batches :p
06:46<jolo>I checked this one last year when I dloaded it, and I always check Ubuntu, PC-BSD, Fedora and whatever I may be using or learning this month.
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06:47<simonrvn>hm. ok
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06:51<Chetic>Does SMART always log errors and set the flags or only if SMART is enabled?
06:51<legnaleurc>will debian shift to upstart too?
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06:54<jolo>Chetic: Did you /msg dpkg?
06:55<Chetic>jolo: heh no why?
06:55<themill>legnaleurc: see and the follow-up threads on debian-devel
06:56<jolo>Chetic: /msg dpkg and type SMART, is explained very well.
06:56<legnaleurc>themill: thx
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07:12<Like>hi all
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07:13<Like>i nedd help installing encore enutv on ubuntu
07:13<Like>any one help me ?
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07:13<Like>i dont found nothing in google
07:14<Like>& i tired a install off mythtv
07:14<Like>maeby the tunner dont work fine ?
07:14<Like>any ideas
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07:16<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
07:17<Like>Torsten_W, i know but in the chanel does not helpfull
07:17<Torsten_W>that's not the problem of #debian
07:17<Like>& i think im welcome here
07:17<Torsten_W>ubuntu is not debian
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07:45<jolo>I can dream of a UOS that is Free and Open to scrutiny or development as one wishes it to be for their particular wants,whims,needs and desires. I can at least dream.
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07:47<jolo>Them Europeans have a good thing going, I respect the stance that they took for the freedom to learn.
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07:47<jolo>And that is OS talk, not Political.
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07:48<themill>jolo: try #debian-offtopic
07:48<jolo>okee dokee
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07:54<jolo>Can I , uhm enable LVM post install or move /home and /tmp to a different section?
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08:00<Blumentopf>mount ...
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08:01<jolo>Just asked /dpkg, yes it can be done, I think.
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08:08<jolo>Thank you, that is good information to know.
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08:10<jolo>Is there a SpeedTrap , (that is wrong I think) basically an Intel switch or pkg that scales back the CPU cycles when not under load and such?
08:11<dr|z3d>I think that's what you're referring to, jolo.
08:11<dr|z3d>And yes, that causes the cpu to scale down when idle.
08:11<jolo>Thank you, yes, I think that is the name, I saw it on Wikipedia a while back.
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08:12<icebrain>jolo: it's supported directly by the kernel
08:12<jolo>That sounds like a great idea, saves power, reduces heat, and makes peanut butter sammiches?
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08:13<jolo>Yet, or is there any thing like it being worked on for Linux?
08:14<dr|z3d>jolo: "It's in the kernel" means it's in the kernel..
08:14<dr|z3d>jolo: Your DE may well have a panel applet to monitor the CPU scaling as it happens.
08:15<jolo>Oh, ok, Thank you. Is it a Terminal setting or a package that is used?
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08:17<icebrain>jolo: used for what? monitoring the status?
08:17<jolo>For saving power, when the CPU is not under heavy load. I guess.
08:18<dr|z3d>apt-cache search speedstep
08:18<jolo>Thank you.
08:18<dr|z3d>That should give you a couple of tools, at least.
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08:19<jolo>I am on a desktop, pretty powerful one, but my neighbor is giving me an older Compaq, I figured that thing would help it , but I wanted to test it on this one.
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08:20<mc_flibuster>may I add??? sudo apt-get install sensors-applet, and you monitor temperatures in gnome
08:20<jolo>Thank you, I had forgotten about that one.
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08:22<jolo>I think it is called cpufreqd?
08:23<jolo>That is what showed up in Synaptic.
08:23<dr|z3d>Try searching apt-cache..
08:23<dr|z3d>And yes, that's likely what you want to look at.
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08:24<mc_flibuster>in panel it install an applet named same as monitor od sensors, sorry it get it in spanish, look for same similar
08:25<mc_flibuster>in spanish named monitor de sensores
08:26<jolo>The description says that cpufreqd is for almost all machines, while some are more dedicated to P4 and higher end AMDs.
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08:27<mc_flibuster>certainly in same old computers do not run, sometimes it depend of kernel version, sometimes to run monitor de sensores you need to reboot the computar
08:28<jolo>Right. I do not have that other box set up yet, I will pick it up later this day.
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08:30<jolo>I was going to test it with Win2k Pro , then go full Linux on it after some benchmarks.
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08:32<vvas>cpufreqd is not really needed with current Debian systems, as the will automatically enable the ondemand cpufreq governor
08:32<vvas>just make sure you have cpufrequtils installed
08:33<jolo>Going for that now.
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08:33<mc_flibuster>powersave, is the best to save energy
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08:34<jolo>Yes, I like to save energy, is good for all of us.
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08:35<mc_flibuster>ondemand sametimes raises temperature high-up, more than 60º
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08:36<mc_flibuster>i am talking about laptops under these temperatures
08:37<jolo>I have not yet convinced my niece that GNU/Linux is the way to go, so she has to let her laptop cool down , manually.
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08:38<mc_flibuster>in lenny for monitor un CPU you need do it: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector
08:38<mc_flibuster>doin it for permissions
08:38<phoenix24>is there a commandline utility that returns a number in words, ex. 1 => one, 2 => two, 12 => twelve ?
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08:39<ciccio85>ci sono ragazze
08:39<Titan8990>phoenix24, `wc`
08:39<Titan8990>oh... misread, probably not
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08:42<jolo>phoenix24: I am certain there are such, C will do it, Python will, but I like Ruby.
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09:09<peej_>phoenix: liblingua-en-words2nums-perl package does it the other way round. You'll probably have to install Lingua::Any::Numbers
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09:10<peej_>and if you're spanish, you're lucky - liblingua-es-numeros-perl - Converts numbers to Spanish text is already a package for lenny
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09:16<jolo>Oh heck, srry, I forgot about Perl.
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09:19<peej_>perl is the neglected stepchild than nobody cares about any more
09:19<Hydroxide>peej_: heh, clearly you're not a sysadmin :)
09:20<Hydroxide>still widely used in that field
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09:20<Hydroxide>and in anything written by joey hess (cf ikiwiki or major components of debian infrastructure)
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09:22<themill>in pretty much all debian packaging, in fact
09:22<Hydroxide>yep. (e.g. debhelper)
09:23<Hydroxide>and debconf, too (the configuration infrastructure, not the conference)
09:23<Hydroxide>(the conference is actually managed with a ruby on rails app)
09:24<peej_>any idea if perl is still the sysadmin glue for other distributions? redhat based ones?
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09:36<pocimaci>how can i use an other known_hosts file with ssh, if the root's directory is other than the default?
09:37<pocimaci>Could not create directory '/root/.ssh'.
09:37<pocimaci>write this if i try to ssh
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09:43<Meths>Anyone compiled and booted a vanilla (or non-debian) kernel on a debian system running with the encrypted LVM from setup?
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09:45<peej_>pocimaci, try -F? or setting $HOME ?
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09:46<pocimaci>i have been verified the $HOME variable
09:46<pocimaci>and it's good
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09:47<pocimaci>but the /root is deleted and moved to otherwhere
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09:48<pocimaci>tried this: -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=$HOME/.ssh/know_hosts
09:48<pocimaci>but doesn't work
09:48<peej_>what user are you? what is $HOME? where is your known_hosts file?
09:48<pocimaci>/home/sysadm is the home dir
09:49<pocimaci>/home/sysadm/.ssh/known_hosts is the file
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09:49<pocimaci>the sysadm is a 0:0 user
09:49<pocimaci>(root access)
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09:50<peej_>in the -o UserKnownHostsFile you spelt know_hosts instead of known_hosts
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09:54<pocimaci>dev:~/scripts# ssh -l sysadm -o StrictHostKeyChecking=ask -o UserKnownHostsFile=$HOME/.ssh/known_hosts ...
09:54<pocimaci>Could not create directory '/root/.ssh'.
09:54<pocimaci>write it again
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10:03<prahal_>hi I amm unable to mount external hdd without root password with latest gvfs. It seems it is due to hal not setting a flag on the device (it is seen as org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.filesystem-mount-system-internal instead of ...-removable
10:04<prahal_>is this a known issue ?
10:04<dr|z3d>prahal_: Does your user have permissions to acces external media..
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10:06<prahal_>policykit has removable media as "at console" . Should be fine so. But org.....filesystem-mount_system-internal has a request for admin passwd ... the issue is that it is not an internal drive
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10:07<prahal_>seems like when the hal flag is not set it defaults to internal
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10:10<pocimaci>fixed my problem
10:10<pocimaci>thanks for help
10:10<pocimaci>write out the original root's home dir
10:10<pocimaci>to the new :)
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10:23<rnewson>does anyone know of major hardware vendors that support Debian on their kit? I'm struggling with HP right now who are dropping support as we speak.
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10:27<fgh>any idea why Iceweasel doesnt show whats on this page:
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10:54<Cab>My /var/run/samba/notify.tdb is growing in size till it fills up all my /var space. Could someone help me?
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11:06<dpkg>thomas: VATTENE VIA
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11:07<dpkg>thomas: VATTENE VIA
11:07<themill>thomas: do you have a debian question we can help you with?
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11:07<dpkg>thomas: VATTENE VIA
11:07<dpkg>thomas: VATTENE VIA
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11:08<petemc>would really like to know the thought process behind those italians doing that
11:08<dr|z3d>They come on various networks doing the selfsame thing, and it's _always_ Italians.
11:08<petemc>stewie said an italian chap he spoke to said it was pure stupidity
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11:09<petemc>stewie? i mean stew
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11:17<johnfg>hi guys
11:18<steffan>johnfg: Hi
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11:19<johnfg>I just installed a new verisign digital id to epiphany, but don't know where it stores it so I can use it for my email. Can't find it in any of its menus.
11:19<johnfg>steffan, Hi there!
11:24<johnfg>Does epiphany have a chat channel?
11:25<petemc>gnome does, if that helps
11:27<johnfg>petemc, What's the server for gnome?
11:27<johnfg>I'm trying to remember: is it
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11:36<peej>my xsession-manager is gnome-session. my x-window-manager is icewm (both set via update-alternatives). But my display ends up being gnome. Clues?
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11:37<dr|z3d>peej: gnome-session.
11:37<dr|z3d>That's your clue; if you just want the gnome-panel, launch that instead.
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11:38<dr|z3d>If you launch gnome-session, it will load the entire gnome-de, or as much as it can.
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11:39<peej>OK, I was hoping to get an icewm running which when I logout lets me save the session. I thought gnome-session was a wrapper that would allow that.
11:40<peej>So, can I save an icewm session in a sensible way?
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11:51*peej tries out gdm instead of xdm
11:51<peej>why is xdm in /usr/bin and gdm in /usr/sbin?
11:52<dr|z3d>gdm needs root, xdm doesn't. probably.
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11:55<timeoh>good evening :)
11:56<timeoh>good evening
11:56<timeoh> ah sorry i had an probleme i dont wanna spam
11:57<steffan>timeoh: Please just ask
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11:57<timeoh>okay sry
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12:05<icebrain>dr|z3d: if you run xdm as a normal user, it prints "Only root wants to run xdm"
12:05<dr|z3d>Then I have no idea why it would be in /usr/bin rather than usr/sbin. Seems odd.
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12:07<icebrain>yes, it does. probably an old convection, no?
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12:08<peej>anyway, I still can't see how to save an icewm session. I had expected using gnome-session instead of icewm-session for x-session-manager would do the job. But I guess it's broken.
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12:10<themill>dr|z3d: probably a left over from /usr/X11R6/bin
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12:11<Smaffler>Am I correct in thinking that Squeeze is more stable than Sid but less stable than Lenny?
12:11<peej>Smaffler, yes
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12:12<steffan>smhar: Lenny is stable. Squeeze is testing. Sid is unstable
12:12<steffan>Smaffler: ^
12:13<Smaffler>peej, steffan. thanks. I'm updating my gnutella client and wanted to make sure I'd chosen the right version.
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12:14<peej>Smaffler, you let apt decide your version default. Don't mix squeeze with lenny or it will make lenny cry.
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12:15<Smaffler>peej, you're right. It seems I'd have to move to some Squeeze version of certain utils in order to update the gnutella client...seems like a slippery slope. I'll stick with Lenny.
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12:18<peej>it's pretty much an all or nothing choice. Either you do a dist-upgrade (move all packages) to squeeze (and no looking back), or you stick with lenny.
12:19<Smaffler>Being a Linux newb, I'll pick stability. ;)
12:19<Smaffler>can anyone here lend me a hand with gtk-gnutella? It's not connecting to the network. =\ It says I'm firewalled although I have a port forwarded to it. The rest of this is quasi-greek to me.
12:19<peej>the really clever people can work around it a bit with stuff like pinning or /usr/local installs etc. But wise people stay lazy and sane and don't do that :-)
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12:20<Smaffler>XD peej. Maybe I'll play with that once I know what I'm doing. I just moved from windows a month ago.
12:21<smhar>greetings to all
12:21<smhar>I just got a new notebook. It is a Dell Inspiron 1545. As expected, I installed debian Lenny on it. there is alot to be done, but first is first. Wifi does not work. The notebook has an integrated Broadcom chip. here are the detail: dmesg: ifconfig: interfaces: lsmod: lspci: lsusb:
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12:22<themill>smhar: "lspci -nn" would be handy
12:24<peej>smhar: start here and end up using the hybrid wl module
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12:25<peej>that chip works fine with wl for me
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12:27<themill>peej: aiui, unfortunately there are a number of different chips that all claim to be "BCM4312" and they have different drivers so the pciid is necessary to be sure
12:27<smhar>thmiI will try the -nn in the next reboot. I am trying to get as much info as possible while I am online now before booting back to net-less debian
12:28<themill>smhar: ahh... peej is probably right in that you need the "wl" driver, but there's a chance it's the b43 driver.
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12:30<peej>oh, yeah, and (if it turns out the wl is appropriate, you need to modprobe ieee80211_crypt first (then insmod /root/hybrid/wl.ko or wherever the source for wl got compiled)
12:30<smhar>themill, can I get any usefull info from the windows?
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12:30<ComradeHaz>Hey all, does anyone know what the deal is with "dmsetup: Conflicts: devicekit-disks but 007-1 is to be installed."?
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12:31<themill>smhar: yeah, the device manager can give you the complete pci-id
12:31<peej>smhar, in the registry you'll probably have a number visible for the pci id. For me the number is 14e4:4315 - you should have something like that, or maybe even exactly the same.
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12:32<hd409>good morning
12:32<ComradeHaz>loool themill
12:32<hd409>how to setup wireless on leny?
12:33<hd409>im not sure with the google results though
12:33<ComradeHaz>good evening hd409 :)
12:33<peej>hd409: start here
12:33<themill>smhar: it will be formatted somewhat differently than 14e4:4315 though (lots of & and \ all through it)
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12:34<smhar>themill, peej, it says: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card
12:34<hd409>peej: its actually bcm43xx
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12:35<peej>heh, two flies with one swat!
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12:36<hd409>peej : gonna try this one
12:36<hd409>wish me luck hehe
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12:37<peej>hd409, you'll probably end up compile the hybrid "wl" module, and install with modprobe ieee80211_crypt; insmod wl.ko
12:37<SwissTorExit>hi to everyone
12:38<hd409>peej how to know my kernel?
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12:38<ComradeHaz>uname -a
12:38<hd409>SwissTorExit hello good morning
12:39<SwissTorExit>morning hd409 , brb i will have a question :)
12:39<ComradeHaz>hmm, themill, am I right in thinking this bug should not be manifesting itself ona system that does not have gnome on it?
12:40<hd409>bcm43xx (Etch with 2.6.18 kern siteel only) base on debian
12:40<ComradeHaz>(the udev one, I mean)
12:40<hd409>mine is
12:40<hd409># uname -a
12:40<hd409>Linux 1000 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 06:06:52 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
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12:41<hd409>is it okay to install this "bcm43xx (Etch with 2.6.18 kern siteel only)"
12:41<Titan8990>you made your hostname '1000'?
12:41<dpkg>thomas: VATTENE VIA
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12:41<gsimmons>hd409: You don't have the old bcm43xx driver available, that is for oldstable (Etch). Ignore that section.
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12:41<dpkg>antonio: VATTENE VIA
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12:41<hd409><gsimmons> i cant find my kernel version to the debian
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12:42<themill>ComradeHaz: the conflict is between devicekit and dmsetup. The former is now apparently a gnome dependency and dmsetup is required for lvm. Hilarity ensues.
12:42<hd409>Titan8990: yup 1000.
12:43<ComradeHaz>wonder why I need device kit
12:43<SwissTorExit>well i run KArmic Kubuntu 9.10 and my new pc have a ethernet card with 2 entry, sometime it use eth0 and sometime eth1, i have only one cable from my router to my card. my question are why are 2 entry? it is for networking or can we do others things. my secound are why it changed sometime ?
12:43<ComradeHaz>how can I see what depends on a packagre?
12:43<gsimmons>hd409: I don't understand your statement. Your system is using a 2.6.26 kernel, as per the output of your uname command.
12:43<fgh>ive been searching google for info but cant really understand. does the SiS graficcards support 3D?
12:43<gsimmons>SwissTorExit: Kubuntu is not supported here, please ask for support in #kubuntu on
12:44<SwissTorExit>someone have told me to ask here but hope to be on right place for Kubuntu
12:44<hd409><gsimmons> yup correct thats my kernel 2.6.26. i dont see that in the debian
12:44<SwissTorExit>oh, sorry
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12:44<ComradeHaz>wtf, I don;t actually have devicekit installed
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12:44<ComradeHaz>wtf is my aptitude bitching?
12:44<SwissTorExit>i have become wrong info and will headach with freenode lol, thanks anyway and ahve ing a good journey
12:45<themill>ComradeHaz: "aptitude why" is a useful tool for that sort of situation. But it sounds like you've got a completely different problem atm. (devkit is/will be the replacement for hal)
12:45<ComradeHaz>well, it's clearly connected
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12:46<hd409>anyone?why i cant connect wireless?when on ubuntu 9.04 works like a need for bcm4xx thing
12:46<hd409>i dont see my kernel here
12:46<cahoot>b43 + firmware already in place?
12:46<hd409>am i allowed to install this part where there is ""
12:47<hd409>in this section "bcm43xx (Etch with 2.6.18 kernel only)"
12:47<peej>golly, going through the broadcom stuff on the wiki - broadcom really is t3h suck
12:47<peej>hd409: nope
12:47<smhar>I think I have enough info and downloaded .deb files to reboot and try again
12:48<smhar>see you later, hopefully from a working lenny
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12:49<hd409>or can i try this section below "b43 and b43legacy"
12:49<hd409>For 2.6.24 and later kernels. Both drivers are included as modules in Debian kernel images. "
12:49<hd409>mine is 2.6.26
12:49<hd409>Linux 1000 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 06:06:52 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
12:49<hd409>ok im ready
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12:50*peej is still trying to figure that out
12:50<hd409>updating now
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12:50<hd409>ill let you know if it works or not
12:50<Cab>I am trying to install Debian 40r6 Etch on Virtualbox, but the installation aways stalls at 5% at the "Select and install software", the screen just after the package selection screen.
12:50<hd409>if not reformat again debian
12:50<peej>hd409, please explain - you have a b43 module that your kernel loads up ?
12:50<hd409>done this several times on google results so i reformat
12:50<Memome>woops sorry
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12:51<peej>reformat is not The Debian Way...
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12:52<hd409>ok im in aptitude install b43-fwcutter wireless-tools
12:52<gsimmons>dpkg: tell Cab -about 5% error
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12:53<Cab>gsimmons: No error, just gets stuck in there
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12:53<ComradeHaz>Guys, what's the list of packages waiting to be approved into unstable called?
12:54<ComradeHaz>I thought it was wait list, but I can;t find it
12:54<dpkg>i heard incoming is to be used at your own risk, packages are even dodgier than unstable(see break) but can be got from (but not ftp), or
12:54<hd409>it works!!!!
12:54<hd409>peej : it works man. b43 and b43legacy section :)
12:54<hd409>thanks debian muah muah muah
12:54<dpkg>experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section of the Developer's Reference.
12:54<ComradeHaz>nah, that's not what I meant, themill
12:54<ComradeHaz>or peej
12:55<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, new is the NEW queue for Debian packages, part of the incoming system, at Packages that are in the NEW queue cannot be downloaded because they have not yet been checked to see if they are allowed to be distributed by the Debian project.
12:55<ComradeHaz>that's the kiddy
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12:56<hd409>peej : i can see some SID here
12:56<hd409>so i guess its working
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12:57<gsimmons>Cab: Check the console on tty4 (Alt-F4) for any errors during packaging unpacking/setup.
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13:03<hd409>still thinking what applications to install
13:03<fgh>ive been searching google for info but cant really understand. does the SiS graficcards support 3D?
13:03<hd409>works like a charm
13:04<hd409>fgh: yes it is
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13:04<hd409>fgh: games on debian?
13:04<fgh>want to run quake1 yes, and maybe compiz
13:04<Gathond>the question is has SiS ever made something which at this point in time does usefull 3D :)
13:05<ymorin>Games On Debian = GOD
13:07<Cab>gsimmons: Booted the installer with "linux debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true""linux debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true" as instructed and now it's working. Thanks a lot!
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13:08<fgh>so hd409, Gathond or ymorin where do i read about 3d for SiS. can you point me in right direction please
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13:14<rimvis>checking for JDK in /usr/lib/jvm/java... configure: error: JAVA_HOME /usr/lib/jvm/java is not a directory
13:14<Gathond>fgh: sorry I never owned one, I just know they never got any really high end cards outthere, and I've heard nothing for years.
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13:16<fgh>ok, maybe i should just drop it. cant find any stright forward info online... just wanted to be able to fire up some 3d programs
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13:17<Gathond>seems to suggest at least some of them have DRI support
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13:18<hd409>how to install flash players?cant play videos
13:18<hd409>done this
13:18<hd409>apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree seems not working
13:18<hd409>lenny debian here 5.1
13:18<jolo>Or Gnash
13:19<hd409>apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
13:19<sathieu>hello. How can I control permission on loop devices (/dev/loop0..)? chmod/chown works very shortly
13:19<hd409>Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
13:20<hd409>jolo : thanks :)
13:20<jolo>hd409: My pleasure, it still needs work, but is free, and does function.
13:23<hd409>hmm i guess ive installed all
13:23<hd409>except for skye video+chat my communication to my relatives
13:23<hd409>still using the beta 2.1
13:24<jolo>What is that?
13:25<hd409>with video+call
13:25<jolo>oh, ok, thought there may have been a new player
13:25<hd409>jolo: seems like its not responding
13:25<hd409>i guees i need to reboot
13:25<hd409>so the flash will play
13:25<hd409>and the java
13:25<jolo>Enabled in browser?
13:27<hd409>need some reboot
13:27<hd409>still installing some addons on iceweasel
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13:27<jolo>As I said, it still needs work, so no promises
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13:31<hd409>You need the latest Flash player to see this video
13:31<hd409>Click here to get Adobe Flash player jolo
13:31<hd409>still not workin dude
13:32<jolo>What browser?
13:33<hd409>jolo ice
13:33<jolo>I got same thing.
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13:33<jolo>Let me look around,,,
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13:41<Solus>jolo: Are you trying to get flash working in Iceweasel?
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13:43<jolo>Solus: No, hd409 was trying, I just found the GStreamer 'ugly' thing....
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13:46<Solus>Any luck?
13:46<jolo>I think that will work, I have not tried it yet, I am just returning to Debian after a spin with a few other Distros/OSs.
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13:47<hd409>yeah no luck
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13:47<Solus>Are you on x86 or x64 hd409?
13:47<jolo>hd409: Here is an explanatory url:
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13:48<hd409>x86 Solus
13:48<Solus>Ah, looks like the same method.
13:49<smhar>themill: peej: hello again :-) this time from debian lenny, with workin wifi :-)
13:49<jolo>hd409: Is ALSA in?
13:49<themill>smhar: yay!
13:49<Solus>You should just be able to grab the binary & drop it into: ~/.mozilla/plugins/
13:50<smhar>THANK YOU GUYS A LOT.
13:50<hd409>jolo : donno alsa
13:50<smhar>although I hate this notebook already :-)
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13:51<jolo>hd409: Solus had a good point, I was just looking at that url, gstreamer-bad, one of the things is ALSA
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13:52<smhar>themill: peej: There are other thing to configure but I should take a break today from that :-)
13:52<jolo>sshar: Gratzi on the getting it working.
13:53<jolo>srry, smhar, didn't have my specs on.
13:54<smhar>thanks, it was the help of the friends here and my hard working and reading and following the instructions, but above all, I was just luck today :-)
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13:54<smhar>jolo: did you get your pciid of the chip?
13:55<jolo>smhar: Not yet, but I like working on that stuff.
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13:56<smhar>try discover, it is the only thing that had my pciid
13:57<jolo>as I rifle through my papers looking for that,,,,
13:58<themill>smhar: out of interest, what is your pciid from "lspci -nn"?
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14:00<smhar>themill: jolo: this is the line from discover: 14e4 4315 Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 USB Controller
14:01<jolo>I still have a BUNCH of pdfs and manuals to dload.
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14:01<kop>Suddenly whenever I restart balsa my mailbox list down the left side of the screen is shrunk to nothing and I have to drag the frame to get it back. Why did this happen and what can I do about it?
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14:01<kop>(Debian lenny)
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14:02<smhar>the mill, the debian wiki specifically says that my 14e4:4315 (low powered will not run with any thing else but the wl driver)
14:02<themill>judd pciid 14e4:4315
14:02<judd>themill: [14e4:4315] is 'BCM4312 802.11b/g' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'ssb' in sid. See also
14:02<smhar>themill: lspci -nn did not display any id for that chip
14:02<Halitech>hi everyone, I just did a fresh install of Squeeze with XFCE and I have no settings option and right clicking on the desktop does not give me any menu, I've checked for all xfce packages and I think I have everything installed but no go, any ideas?
14:02<themill>smhar: yeah, thanks for that... yet another out-of-tree driver that I'll have to teach judd about.
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14:03<kop>Ah, I see now. Somehow the View->Show Mailbox Tree menu item got unchecked.
14:03<smhar>themill: thank YOU
14:03<Titan8990>I am wanting to mirror a debian repo... In the guide it says "Setup the .ssh/authorized_keys for the mirror user and place the public key of your upstream mirror into it." How is one to acquire the public key?
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14:03<themill>have fun :) afk...
14:04<jolo>I am seeing double now, color me gone for the moment, and Thank you all!
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14:04<smhar>first things things first, I need to get my sources right and update the system
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14:06<dkr>Titan8990: look for an file in the upstream mirror you are using?
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14:08<Titan8990>dkr, sounds reasonable but does not appear to be the case
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14:08<dkr>oh, that's really annoying, earthlink setup a dns lookup failure interceptor page to serve advertisements
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14:09<Titan8990>my local cable ISP has done that for a long time
14:09<Titan8990>free DNS servers ftw
14:09<kop>How can I convert a MS Excel spreadsheet from xls format to tab delimited text. OOo does not seem to do this. :-P
14:10<kop>dkr: Or just run bind locally.
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14:10<dkr>kop: yeah, I was just thinking to do that
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14:14<Titan8990>almost positive the public key is not in that dir structure
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14:15<ymorin>kop, open xls in oocalc, then file > save as, choose "CSV" file type, save, ... , choose separator {TAB}
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14:17<dkr>Titan8990: hrm, maybe not all mirrors provide that method of syncing? you could try mailing the maintainers
14:17<Titan8990>dkr, that was one of the ones listed as primary-push mirrors
14:18<Titan8990> looks exactly the same
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14:21<dkr> mentions creating ~/.ssh/
14:21<EmleyMoor>I am trying to produce some DVD video using dvdstyler but it hangs. What format should I convert the source files to so that they need no further conversion?
14:21<kop>ymorin: Doh. I thought it was possible. Although, technically, CSV and tab delimited are separate "formats", in that MS changed what CSV means to do stupid things with quotes and the like. I would just like the plain old data tab delimited, without funky quotes around particular kinds of values like MS has come to do. (To make things "easier" of course. The bastards.)
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14:21<dkr>I guess you do have to contact the mirror maintainer to ask for the key. "the public ssh key given to you by the upstream mirror"
14:21<ymorin>kop, well just erase the " quote no?
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14:22<kop>ymorin: It turns out not to be reversable under some circumstances, as I recall. I could be wrong.
14:23<kop>ymorin: In any case in the general case it's non-trivial.
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14:24<ymorin>hmm... weird, when i've installed iceweasel (without gnome-support), "Download" window open file and folder inside totem...
14:25<ymorin>because it couldn't guess mime-type
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14:31<hd409>thanks guys
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14:36<mykhi>any suggestions why after dist-upgrade my cd-rom stopped getting detected (no file /dev/cdrom)
14:36<Flakk>Hi people I have just installed ICEDOVE and trying to make it work. The configuration steps are very easy, so I did it all, but alas, there is no connection to the server "" so no result. Any help?
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14:43<ymorin>Flakk, did you follow these instructions ?
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14:45<Flakk>yes; well the windows in the icedove were not exactly the same but i did these steps
14:45<ymorin>Flakk, and you activate imap inside gmail web interface?
14:46<Flakk>yes I did
14:46<Flakk>let me check if it is still there
14:46<Flakk>yes it is active
14:47<ymorin>Are you able to ping ?
14:47<Flakk>good idea: trying
14:47<Flakk>yes! time or response 106 ms
14:48<ymorin>ok, did you use 993 and SSL in icedove settings?
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14:49<Flakk>993 (and when it did not work then 143 did n t work either, SSL - let me check
14:50<Flakk>ymorin: nope I am just "never using secure connection"
14:50<ymorin>should be to "SSL"
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14:50<Flakk>trying --
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14:52<Flakk>ymorin great! it works
14:52<Flakk>thx a lot
14:52<Flakk>will try to add one more account
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14:52<ymorin>and don't forget step "13"
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14:53<Devilangel81>is the one german channel
14:54<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
14:54<Flakk>ymorin - 13 it is SSL, Ok!
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15:12<Flakk>ymorin: seems to work! am quite happy about this ) unfortunately yahoo would not unveil the names of servers for free , otherwise life would become still easier
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15:47<Xeross>hey guys, I need to mirror a forum that requires loggin in
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15:47<Xeross>I got to loggin in with wget but it somehow thinks there are no links to download
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15:48<Titan8990>use rsync
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15:50<mykhi>hello, any ideas why after dist-upgrade my cd-rom stopped getting detected (no file /dev/cdrom)?
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15:51<Titan8990>mykhi, what did you upgrade from/to?
15:51<Xeross>Titan8990: Does rsync support cookies, post variables,etc ?
15:52<Titan8990>Xeross, rsync is basically THE mirroring/synchronization tool. likely you will just sync the web root of the forums and the also grab a dump on the database
15:52<mykhi>Titan8990, just regular update to sid
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15:53<kop>Xeross: You could use --load-cookies with wget.
15:53<Xeross>kop: I did, but when I fetched the forum index it apperently couldnt find any links
15:53<Xeross>kop: and when I entered the url of a sub-forum manually it said it didnt exist
15:53<Titan8990>mykhi, well, /dev/cdrom was never anything more than a symlink, try /dev/hda
15:53<kop>Xeross: It all sounds familar, but I'm too tired right now to think.
15:54<Titan8990>mykhi, and now that your stuff is already broken in some way, welcome to sid
15:54<mykhi>Titan8990, no any /dev/hdX devices ;<
15:54<mykhi>well everything works beside it >>
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15:55<mykhi>maybe it was because my grub was updated
15:55<mykhi>to some new grub2 or whatever
15:55<kop>Xeross: You tried --user and --password?
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15:56<Titan8990>if anything i would think new udev or kernel related
15:56<Hideo>Xeross: change your wget user agent
15:56<mykhi>nothing changed in kernel
15:56<Titan8990>kop, would that only apply if it was http auth and not form-based auth?
15:57<mykhi>dont know if udev was updated
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15:57<Titan8990>mykhi, an upgrade to sid should have upgraded your kernel to .30
15:57<kop>Titan8990: Yup. You're right.
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15:57<mykhi>no, i keep using my own kernel
15:57<mykhi>and i had sid before, i just did dist-upgrade
15:57<kop>Xeross: I suspect session cookies are not getting picked up so you're not logged in.
15:57<Titan8990>it sounds to me like he is mirroring something he shouldn't
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15:58<kop>Titan8990: For some silly value of "shouldn't" perhaps.
15:58<Titan8990>mykhi, its recommended you try a aptitude safe-upgrade first
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15:59<klh>On dial-up in etch, installed lenny via live-cd (the old cp way), because lenny does not come with wvdail,gnome-ppp is it possible while in etch to chroot and run apt-get to install needed packages ?
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15:59<mykhi>well i never heard of it and its already done, so.. ;P
15:59<Titan8990>klh, don't see why not
15:59<klh>Titan8890 how would I go about that?
15:59<Titan8990>klh, in the future, there is debootstrap now for installation from inside a chroot
16:00<Titan8990>klh, the same way you would do any other chroot.... mount proc and dev to the filesystem and chroot in to it
16:00<Titan8990>from inside the chroot you should be able to do what what need
16:01<klh>will give it a try
16:01<Xeross>rsync cant synchronize html so it seems :/
16:01<Titan8990>Xeross, no, you need the forum maintainer to allow you to synchronize his web root
16:01<Xeross>Well I just want an html mirror of the data
16:01<Xeross>not db+ftp files
16:01<Titan8990>and often with forums there is information that will be stored in the database
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16:03<Xeross>I just basically need the snapshots of the threads and some kind of synching stuff so it doesnt redownload everything
16:04<klh>my knowledge has deteriorated since using a stable OS
16:05<klh>refresh my memory on the proc dev mount pls
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16:11<terpstra>When a buildd needs a dependency does it get it from unstable or from testing?
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16:12<Xeross>Kind of sucks such a think seems unavailable
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16:15<peej>what's the difference between tzconfig and tzselect? I note that tzconfig now says we should should dpkg-reconfig tzdata.
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16:24<klh>found this one a bit easier:
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16:54<Flakk>Hi people I have made a stupid action: downloaded all my inbox from a Yahoo email address to my desktop computer through POP (i thought it would be available in the Yhoo mailbox, but POP did its work. Fortunately nothing is lost, but I can not access the older messages from the WEB. Is there any way to move them back to Yahoo inbox ?
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16:56<kop>Flakk: You could use procmail's formail to send them back. But the dates would likely change.
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16:57<kop>Flakk: You'd have formail run sendmail on each message.
16:57<Flakk>kop: you mean forward them from the Icedove account on my cmoputer to the yahoo address?
16:57<kop>Flakk: I mean run a script on your local computer's mailbox to re-mail them.
16:58<icebrain>kop: but re-emailing will change the To: field, won't it?
16:58<Flakk>but then I guess the date for all the messages will be "today" right?
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16:59<Flakk>I forwarded already one message it is not really the same thing
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17:00<kop>icebrain: No. There's a header to and an envelope to. The envelope to will change, but the To you see won't.
17:01<kop>Flakk: Maybe and maybe not. You'd have to try and see. I suspect you can keep the date.
17:01<Flakk>kop: can you explain waht is the program to use?
17:01<icebrain>Flakk: does yahoo support imap? I think you can upload using i
17:02<kop>icebrain: True, if yahoo supports it.
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17:02<kop>Flakk: You'll have to read the formail man page/examples.
17:02<kop>Flakk: imap would be best.
17:02<Flakk>icebrain: it seems to me that NOT, at least I was using POP exactly because they did not suggest IMAP and only POP
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17:03<Flakk>kop: so if I want to upload the whole stuff to a new gmail address, you mean I can do it?
17:03<Flakk>cause gmail supports IMAP I am sure
17:04<Flakk>m maybe not since the adrress will not be the same
17:05<icebrain>Flakk: well, just run grep to rename them :)
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17:07<kop>Flakk: That sounds doable.
17:07<kop>Flakk: See (and fully understand): for a formail script example.
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17:07<Flakk>it seems to me so. i had an idea to switch to gmail anyway, so I will try the imap stuff.
17:09<Flakk>kop: fully understand something about free-bsd is much higher than my capacities can reach, I am working only with debian, applying the simplest operations
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17:12<icebrain>Flakk: that was just an usage example, debian has procmail/formail too
17:12<icebrain>Flakk: apt-get install procmail :)
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17:13<Flakk>i have tried it : imap upload to gmail works perfectly, the only caveat is that i have several 1000s emails, so will spend the rest of my life here )))
17:15<Flakk>imap is really perfect - nothing could be better. THANX!!
17:15<icebrain>Flakk: it automates the process ^^
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17:17<Flakk>thanks, I will check it
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17:22<Flakk>icebrain, kop, thanks again! I will go and do it now
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19:43<calam>good night as the package name to install debian iexplorer for ??????????????
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19:44<sney>calam: huh?
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19:46<calam>package name to download iexplorer for debian?
19:46<sney>iexplorer as in Microsoft Internet Explorer?
19:47<sney>you would need Wine, and I don't know if it even work
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19:47<calam>I mean the program that emulates debian
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19:49<necrocter>google for: IEs4Linux
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19:51<calam>thanks necrocter
19:51<calam>I meant that packet
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19:55<OscarEubieda>saludos a toos
19:56<klh>for some reason i'm unable to su or sudo
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19:56<OscarEubieda>me ayudarian con un problemita con mi t/video nvidia?
19:56<klh>Authentication error
19:56<necrocter>what's the problem OscarEubieda ?
19:57<OscarEubieda>speak spanish?
19:57<necrocter>yep, but private msg then, you need to write in english here
19:58<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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19:58<necrocter>ok there you go
19:59<klh>so I installed the lenny live-cd using cp as rsync was not included
19:59<klh>everything appears fine
19:59<klh>have chrooted and installed dial-up things
19:59<klh>however in the system (lenny) I'm unable to use su or sudo or any apps that run as priveleged root
20:00<OscarEubieda>installing the proprietary nvidia driver and reboot the pc will not start the x
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20:00<OscarEubieda>This happened after upgrading the kernel
20:01<SSmith>OscarEubieda: you need to rebuild the nvidia drivers for the new kernel
20:02<OscarEubieda>if I've done and it works, but when you restart the pc x server will not start
20:03<OscarEubieda>the problem is when you reboot, it tells me that this module type1
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20:06<klh>Any ideas on how to cure this authentication error ?
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20:07<adb>klh, do a standard install ..
20:07<klh>sounds good
20:08<klh>if I had recieved a cd in the mail with an installer ..
20:09<chealer>klh: when does the error happen?
20:09<klh>when I go to use su or sudo or try to open an application that runs as root
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20:14<chealer>klh: you *installed* the lenny live-cd?
20:14<klh>followed instructions
20:14<klh>except had to use cp rather than rsync
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20:17<chealer>klh: none of the lenny live CDs is installable. that's a hack, don't expect it to work
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20:18<sney>I think you can invoke d-i from within the livecd
20:18<klh>I tried lh_config
20:18<sney>but it doesn't 'install' the livecd, it just runs the standard netinst
20:19<klh>anyway to hack around this issue ?
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20:20<chealer>klh: installing using the debian live is not supported
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20:24*adb got a debian live ... installable
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20:25<sney>it's hacky and unsupported even if it does work, adb
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20:26<adb>sney, all is "hacky " in IT ..
20:26<sney>super extra hacky. and way totally unsupported.
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21:15<Ethan>Hello. I'm trying to install Debian on a computer using a memory stick, I'd like it to download most of the packages it needs from the internet via an ethernet connection to my router. Where would I find a suitable iso image?
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21:17<adb>!usb install
21:17<dpkg>Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at BIOS can't boot from USB? Use
21:17<sney>Ethan: is the destination computer hooked up to the ethernet? the best way would be with a standard netinstall usb image so it can only download the packages it needs, rather than some general collection
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21:20<Ethan>I did try with mini.iso, but the installer couldn't find it so I assumed I was doing something wrong.
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21:21<Ethan>I couldn't tell from the instructions whether that was just for installing from a local network.
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21:40<s3a>is there a command that lists all the dependencies of a specific package?
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21:48<chealer>s3a: apt-cache depends
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21:52<s3a>chealer, thx :)
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22:23<jolo>I am so lost on this, what an undertaking to move from one system to another.
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22:25<tuxi^>jolo, ever tried that with Windows? I guess you would have given it up a few hours ago *g
22:26<tuxi^>BlueScreens over bluescreens :>
22:26<jolo>Best to just take a break for now and try and locate a Manual. I think my friend has an older one.
22:26<luser1>hello, where do I find the Release keys? (to use for debootstrap --keyring) ?
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22:27<jolo>tuxi^: I kicked windows to the curb 5 years ago, that XP was enough of a dll tangled up in blue clouds.
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22:29<Mish->A client has requested PHP4, I want to use Lenny, is there any way to get PHP4 on Lenny in deb form?
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22:31<jolo>tuxi^: Never said giving up, just gonna take a walk to the boat and look at the mooring lines and whatnot.
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22:35<gsimmons>luser1: You can use the GnuPG archive keys provided in the debian-archive-keyring package.
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22:35<tuxi^>jolo, still there?
22:35<luser1>not on a public site?
22:36<jolo>tuxi^: sort of, yes
22:36<tuxi^>because my debian just hung up :-/
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22:36<Silicium01>how can i determine my southbridge chipset name?
22:36<tuxi^>capslock activated and frozen.... ;x
22:36<tuxi^>Silicium01, lshw ?
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22:37<Silicium01>tux, not found
22:37<tuxi^>you need to install it
22:37<tuxi^>do you use aptitude or apt-get?
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22:37<Silicium01>ok, installing, one sec
22:38<tuxi^>but it's only one way
22:38<Silicium01>so where do I find the chipset names?
22:38<tuxi^>try lspci
22:38<tuxi^>could help you, too
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22:39<Silicium01>tuxi^, which one is it?
22:40<tuxi^>Silicium01, do you know your motherboards name?
22:40<tuxi^>not hard to tell, that you got an intel south bridge...
22:41<Silicium01>gygabyte GA-p35-ds3l
22:41<tuxi^>gimme a sec ;)
22:41<tuxi^>I'll look it up for you
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22:41<Silicium01>ICH9 i think
22:41<tuxi^>should be...
22:41<Silicium01>there's northbidge and southbridge, are there any other bridges I should know about? lol
22:42<tuxi^>do you know the Revision?
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22:42<tuxi^>isn't important
22:42<tuxi^> Intel® P35 + ICH9 Chipset
22:42<Silicium01>ok cool
22:43<Silicium01>so is p35 the chipset name ir ich9?
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22:43<tuxi^>the ICH is the I/O Controller Hub
22:43<tuxi^>P35 is the Chipset
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22:43<luser1>there was a question of whether quakelive is secure and we decided it wasn't.
22:43<tuxi^>the ICH is the SouthBridge
22:44<luser1>therefore it is banned.
22:44<tuxi^>luser1, lol
22:44<tuxi^>I can't sleep :x
22:44<luser1>tuxi^, gaming administrators.
22:44<luser1>need i say more?
22:45<tuxi^>I'm on adrenaline, because my new hardware si about to arrive
22:45<tuxi^>that really sucks, if you wake up at 4 AM in the night and can't sleep :x
22:45<tuxi^>4 o clock*
22:45<luser1>well I would only run quakelive or anyother game with multiplayer in a quarantine zone.
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22:47<tuxi^>I want my Hardware :-/
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22:47<luser1>gsimmons, the key on ftp-master is incorrect?
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22:49<gsimmons>luser1: What are you trying to do?
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22:49<luser1>gsimmons, workout the proper use of --keyring with debootstrap.
22:51<luser1>rsync -az --progress ./debian-keyring.gpg ?
22:52<luser1>a user had an unlocked usb key while running quakelive and we found DoS from the..server.
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22:52<luser1>but google "security quakelive" brings up nill. Changelogs don't mention anything, quakelive is very very closed.
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22:53<luser1>ioquake3 is trusted but quakelive? nope.
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22:54<luser1>everyone remembers the remote exploits with the q3 engine right?
22:55<tuxi^>correct me if I am wrong, does Wolfenstein Enemy Territory rely on Q3 Engine?
22:56<luser1>don't install.
22:56<jolo>Not me, but I never played that game.
22:56<tuxi^>luser1, no reason not to
22:56<tuxi^>they fixed it
22:56<tuxi^>years ago ;D
22:56<luser1>icculus fix it.
22:57<luser1>id haven't never mentioned a fix.
22:57<luser1>haven't ever
22:58<jolo>I like that airplane game on here, I get in a little plane and crash it into some wall. over and over and over, is like FAA Demolition Derby, fun stuff.
22:58<tuxi^>airplanes crashing always tend to remember me about something else called 9/11 ...
22:59<luser1>tuxi^, get a box name it "pwnme" and install either 1) windows 2) linux + closed binaries (games, flash etc).
22:59<luser1>lol but true :)
22:59<jolo>But I am on the ground, I hut walls and ditches and whatever else is cluttering the runway.
22:59<tuxi^>can't help but without flash internet is only half as interesting...
22:59<tuxi^>HTML 5 is on the way
22:59<tuxi^>possibly we won't need flash crap anymore, then
23:00<luser1>html5 won't replace flash.
23:00<luser1>perhaps SVG or flash becomes OSS
23:00<tuxi^>do you really think that ;) ?
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23:01<tuxi^>hmm... newegg really looks nice
23:01<luser1>flash OSS? else will people be able to "pwnme" ?
23:02<tuxi^>luser1, where from ? if I might ask :>
23:02<tuxi^>well, I was talking bout the country... not the city
23:03<tuxi^>I'm from Germany... you wouldn't know the town if I would name it :x
23:03<luser1>hell ?
23:03<luser1>or is that in .nl
23:04<tuxi^>not funny ;x
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23:08<luser1>I downloaded the keyring with this command "rsync -az --progress ./debian-keyring.gpg" but it still fails with debootstrap --keyring=debian-keyring.gpg ??
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23:08<tuxi^^>24 hours disconnect :-/
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23:09<tuxi^^>but providers are forcing it... dunno why anyways...
23:10<luser1>not enough ips ?
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23:11<tuxi^^>yeah... could be one reason
23:11<luser1>that was the reason i thought.
23:11<tuxi^^>they are still using IPv4
23:12<tuxi^^>well... I really like instead of
23:12<gsimmons>luser1: No, only has keys for Debian Developers. You can obtain the archive keys from, import into your public keyring and call debootstrap against that. Or just use the keyring in the debian-archive-keyring package as previously mentioned.
23:12<tuxi^^>no-one could ever remember the Server IP without host lookup then...
23:15<luser1>gsimmons, thanks, the key I have for "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny)" is not the same as archive-key-5.0.asc on ftp-master?
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23:17<tuxi^^>Silicium01, still there?^^
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23:17<luser1>E: Release signed by unknown key
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23:18<gsimmons>luser1: Pastebin what you are trying to do.
23:19<luser1>i should be using /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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23:23<luser1>gsimmons, all I'm trying to do now is find the public key for stable to add to "apt-key add <key>" ?
23:25<luser1>ok got it sorry.
23:26<luser1>wget ; apt-key add archive-key-5.0.asc ; debootstrap --keyfile=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg ...
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23:26<luser1>just wanted to manually see how things work.
23:26<luser1>gsimmons, thanks for your help.
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