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00:29<raevol>hey all, i've got an eeepc 701 i'm trying to set up as a server, i can access it on my network (ssh) but the server itself can't seem to find the internet
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00:30<raevol>i just removed network applet and all my xorg/gui stuff, and i have my eth0 set up for a static ip in /etc, but i dunno why it's not reaching outside my own network
00:30<raevol>any ideas?
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00:32<raevol>ok, i can ping outside ip addresses, it seems it's DNS isn't working
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00:34<grondilu>Hi, is it possible to configure a wifi network card as a repeater when in monitor mode ??
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01:14<mahesh>hello. i am having a network card that worked good till yesterday. now when i ping the modem via NIC i dont get a reply. ifconfig says RX: 0 bytes
01:14<mahesh>any way to verify if its a hardware failure?
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02:03<squiddy>hi, how do i generate .iso image from DVD drive ?
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02:04<mabel>Hello. I have a DSL connection and I want to connect to it at startup. The following script does the trick: However, I'd like to use /etc/network/interfaces because I think that's cleaner. This is what I have in that file now: And it's not connecting at startup. Any ideas on what should I do?
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02:04<babilen>squiddy: have a look at dd
02:05<squiddy>babile: thanks. i'll try.
02:05<babilen>squiddy: basically: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
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02:06<squiddy>babilen: btw, is the .iso image created will be bootable also ?
02:07<babilen>squiddy: That depends on the source media. dd will create an exact copy of that.
02:07<squiddy>babilen: ok i got it :). Thanks.
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02:49<kassem>hi there
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04:12<tata>hi. i never used any other language than english. i've installed lenny into my father's comp. I've been successful in swithing kde into czech (installing one package), but i can't figure out how to switch language in gnome. (my pripamry dm is KDM). thx
04:12<tata>any help please?
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04:16<diggy>right click on language indicator->keyboard preferences->layouts
04:17<tata>i dont need kb layout i just need gnome in czech. i got kde in czech, but gnome apps are still in neglish
04:18<tata>anybody knows where the i18n packages are for gnome?
04:18<tata>can't google it
04:19<dr|z3d>tata: you could try installing localepurge and then nominating the languages you wish to save.
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05:16<nowhere_man>hi all
05:16<nowhere_man>I just finished (or so I thought) installing a laptop for a friend, with Lenny
05:17<nowhere_man>the wifi card is reckonized and nm-applet shows me the wireless networks, but the only authentications available are WEP and LEAP
05:17<nowhere_man>no WPA, although wpasupplicant is installed
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05:21<gsimmons>nowhere_man: Provided the driver supports WPA, you probably have to manually define the wireless network, allowing you to choose WPA. See
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05:25<nowhere_man>how do I check that the driver supports it?
05:25<nowhere_man>I'm using orinoco_cs, and it's a veeery old card
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05:27<gsimmons>nowhere_man: Ah. You'll need both a later kernel version and firmware from userspace for WPA (and WPA1+TKIP at that).
05:27<gsimmons>dpkg: tell nowhere_man -about orinoco
05:27<lau>hello, i would like to compile/install
05:27<inglor_>nowhere_man, you maybe need wpa_supplicant pkg
05:27<hannes|l>Short question: Is sid still freezed before a major release?
05:27<lau>it is just a python install right ? thus I pre-requisite python right ?
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05:28<inglor_>lau, python should be installed independently, unless it's a depentancy package
05:28<hannes|l>or was this changed?
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05:40<peej>in logrotate scripts, in the postrotate section, I sometimes see a reload (eg apache and cups). Why?
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05:50<hannes|l>thanks for quick response
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05:52<jmm>peej: some software need to be restarted after an external application copied/removed its logs.
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05:55<peej>jmm, you mean the app whose logs are altered does a check on the logs after writing? Why should an app ever worry about that? A log is surely fire and forget?
05:56<jmm>I guess there can be many reasons, the first coming to my mind, is that the app actually open/write into a file, that can be moved by another apps.
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05:57<jmm>so it sound wise to restart those, so they open again the log file.
06:01<peej>I'm trying to think of how that might happen in a log, then, um.... ip resolution is done on the log line (is that part of apache?) then restart open/writing with a reload.... is that the kind of thing you are suggesting? (ok, this one is probably a bit contrived)
06:02<jmm>I mean, that while logrotate move your access.log, apache maybe tryin to write into, and have already opened the file.
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06:03<peej>("contrived" -> since reload is expensive for the contrivedly common operation)
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06:07<peej>ok, ah. A sort of heisenbug. The mere action of the logrotate on the log may itself have disturbed the state of the log. So that the app writing the log is no longer sure what the log state is.
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06:37<f1n>anyone alive
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06:50<babilen>... not without a question
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06:58<inglor>is there a way to cut the output of the grep to show me only something that is between quotes? example; in the cpufreq-info I want to show me only the governor name which is between double-quotes. any ideas?
06:59<cahoot>grep + tr?
07:00<inglor>cahoot, i am using grep + cut but the output is variable width so I need another filter.
07:02<cahoot>inglor: OT answer: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
07:03<inglor>cahoot, thanks cahoot I was looking in /proc or /proc/acpi :D
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07:03<inglor>would be lovely for conky :D
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07:33<tuxcrafter>hi all
07:34<tuxcrafter>i am having a cups scalling issue with my hp color laserjet 8500DN
07:34<tuxcrafter>does somebody have experiences with this
07:34<tuxcrafter>i have it for a month now or so and it is really anoying
07:34<tuxcrafter>i already reinstalled cups
07:34<tuxcrafter>removed and readded the printer
07:34<tuxcrafter>rebooted the printer
07:34<tuxcrafter>reconifgurated the printer
07:35<tuxcrafter>but no joy
07:36<azeem_>you didn't say what issue you have
07:36<azeem_>except "scalling"
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07:40<peej>inglor, cpufreq-info |grep -o '".*"' would do it too. Or you can use sed. And yeah, it's off topic.
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07:41<inglor>hehe no actua;;y is good to know cheers :D I will use the cat command thou cause it's easier :D
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08:08<tuxcrafter>i just tested printing on my debian stable systems and there i did not have andy problems
08:10<tuxcrafter>on my own debian sid system the prints are all incorrect (scalling creating extra white spaces around all sides
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08:17<czarny>somone can tell me where is now menu.lst in this new grub?
08:18<czarny>or something like that
08:18<czarny>and how working?
08:18<dr|z3d>czarny: I think you need grub.cgf
08:18<dr|z3d>(or similar).
08:19<czarny>there is no menu.* at /boot/grub
08:19<gsimmons>dpkg: grub2 config
08:19<dpkg>If all you want is to dual-boot Debian & Windows, just install the os-prober package and run update-grub. Otherwise, check /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/* and (GRUB wiki)
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08:21<czarny>ok i will try
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08:22<czarny>update-grub or update-grub2?
08:22<gsimmons>czarny: They call the same thing.
08:23<czarny>i just install debian by couse no cd-rom drive is availible here :)
08:24<czarny>this was helpful i think
08:24<czarny>thx again
08:24<f1n>anyone know why my system crashes after i install video drivers every time....
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08:24<gsimmons>czarny: Are you sure you installed Debian? That particular site now promotes gNewSense.
08:24<czarny>yes this is debian
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08:25<czarny>i changed /etc/apt/sources.list to regular debian
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08:25<czarny>i just instaled a base system
08:25<inglor>Anyone use conky. I am trying to set my network to show either my eth1 or eth0 depending on which of them is currently connected. There is an if_up variable which is for interfaces but both are up and only one has Address. any idea?
08:27<czarny>idk i think only one network card can work on the same time
08:27<czarny>but im not sure about it
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08:56<alex__>hey folks
08:56<alex__>I made it to linux
08:57<alex__>I am using ps- A to get list of jobs and processes
08:57<alex__>however one program that is stuck is not shown there
08:57<alex__>any ideas?
08:58<locklace>!tell alex__ about grounding
08:58*weasel uses "ps xauf"
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09:00<alex__>it worked
09:00<alex__>linux power :D
09:00<alex__>I like it
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09:01<alex__>what the alt soft to zoiper? on my pc it just get stuck
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09:04<alex__>ok in fact its something to do with audio drivers
09:04<alex__>every time I use mic
09:04<alex__>it gets stuck
09:04<alex__>I just tried it now
09:04<alex__>playback is fine
09:06<locklace>what version of debian are you using
09:08<alex__>one sec
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09:09<alex__>with alsa
09:09<alex__>dell 620 laptop
09:10<alex__>I looked at alsamix nothing there
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09:14<alex__>alsa 1.0.17
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09:15<alex__>and its in the kernel
09:15<alex__>so should work
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09:17-!-mode/#debian [+l 381] by debhelper
09:17<alex__>debhelper do people just log here?
09:17<alex__>or there is chat also sometimes?
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09:18<alex__>hey gerzel
09:18<alex__>how are you?
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09:23<alex__>hey ewald
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09:23<alex__>hey mercutio22
09:26<adb>!tell alex__ -about enter
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09:28<LinuxTracker[3759]>My name Is ben Baker from the Independent Living resource center. we are trying to find a linux distribution that is easy to use and accessible for people with disabilities... any suggestions???
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09:28<dr|z3d>LinuxTracker[3759]: Sure, try Ubuntu or variants.
09:29<LinuxTracker[3759]>i am testing both fedora and ubuntu at the moment, thank you for your input
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09:29<dr|z3d>LinuxTracker[3759]: Personally I'd go with Xubuntu.. easy to use, tailored to the Linux beginner. Debian requires a bit more knowledge.
09:29<LinuxTracker[3759]>oh really
09:29<LinuxTracker[3759]>ill download xubuntu now thank you
09:29<babilen>LinuxTracker[3759]: There are also distributions tailored for the needs of people with disablilities ...
09:29<babilen>LinuxTracker[3759]: Hang on a second
09:30<LinuxTracker[3759]>this is what i am searching for
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09:30<LinuxTracker[3759]>i will stay here, tabbing for downloads
09:31<dr|z3d>LinuxTracker[3759]: Won't take much to add some apps to the default install to make it much more disability friendly.
09:31<dr|z3d>Most Linux distros should offer plenty of apps.
09:31<LinuxTracker[3759]>this is where my skills are lacking, installing into linux
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09:32<LinuxTracker[3759]><- raised in windows, but in love with linux
09:32<babilen>LinuxTracker[3759]: for example (linux distribution for the visually impaired)
09:32<LinuxTracker[3759]>i can install the os, no prob
09:32<LinuxTracker[3759]>thank you i will test vinux as well
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09:32<dr|z3d>LinuxTracker[3759]: If you're on a Debian based distro (eg Xubuntu), use Synaptic for installs, or on an Ubuntu install, you can use Ubuntu's software center.
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09:33<dr|z3d>Think "Windows Update" for your entire system, apps included..
09:33<LinuxTracker[3759]>cool thanks
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09:34<LinuxTracker[3759]>i used the update systems a couple times, its installing a program from a cd or usb stick i cant wrap around me
09:34<babilen>LinuxTracker[3759]: That is the mailing list for everything accessibility related. I guess it might help to write them describing your use case
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09:34<LinuxTracker[3759]>you guys rock
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09:35<babilen>LinuxTracker[3759]: That should get you started ... There might also be an IRC channel around .. hang on
09:35<LinuxTracker[3759]>thats where im working
09:36<LinuxTracker[3759]>ive been asking for linux at the center for years now theyre paying me to find a match for us
09:36<LinuxTracker[3759]>because its non profit, and we cannot afford windows cds at the rate we go through em
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09:37<LinuxTracker[3759]>thank you for all your help guys
09:37<babilen>great! I would really suggest to read through the links I gave you and write to the debian-accessibility mailing list. You will reach the most experienced people over there
09:37<babilen>LinuxTracker[3759]: Good luck! And keep up the good work
09:38<LinuxTracker[3759]>i have opened all your links and am downloading each sudggested linux you gave me
09:38<LinuxTracker[3759]>also i am using my work email for the mailing list
09:38<LinuxTracker[3759]>take care guys
09:38<babilen>you too
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12:02<hadi57>hi, any one can help me sync my I8910 HD contacts? i hate to go back to windows.
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12:31<maciek>hi I'm looking for someone who programing in directfb
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12:34<valdyn>maciek: wrong channel
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12:41<sixtila>can debian and ubuntu be installed side by side? i wanted to give debian a try
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12:42<babilen>you can also have a look at debian live or install it in a virtual machine (kvm, qemu, xen, ...)
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12:42<sixtila>babilen is there ddbian 64bit also
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12:43<babilen>it's the amd64 architecture
12:43<sixtila>and is debian as free as ubuntu is?
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12:43<babilen>even more so
12:43<sixtila>cool, i m definitely gonna try it
12:43<sixtila>i m sure i will like it
12:43<babilen>!tell sixtila -about install
12:44<babilen>!tell sixtila -about install guide
12:44<babilen>just come back if you have questions
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12:45<babilen>do you have access to the internet while you install?
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12:45<sixtila> is there a single file that i could download?
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12:46<babilen>do you have net access while you install?
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12:46<sixtila>i have wireless, but i wanna have the dvd incase for other ourpose
12:46<babilen>alright ... just download DVD1 then
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12:47<babilen>it contains everything you need for the installation
12:47<babilen>(and much more)
12:47<sixtila>but why are there so many dvds
12:47<sixtila>and all iso have the same size again
12:48<babilen>it's all the packages available within debian. They are ordered by popularity. So you have the most popular packages on the first DVD and so on
12:48<babilen>but you don't need all the DVDs. You can easily install packages from the internet once you have internet connection
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12:49<sixtila>i have installed windows and ubuntu ~ will this setup be any more dirrerent
12:49<babilen>You could also just download CD1 with the desktop manager flavour of your choice (Gnome, KDE, LXDE, ...)
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12:49<babilen>not really ..
12:49<babilen>Can you come here while you are installing it?
12:50<sixtila>i really dont know,
12:50<sixtila>can i get to this channel from ipod touch?
12:50<babilen>it's the only computer around?
12:50<sixtila>i now use xchat
12:50<sney>the only thing that could be hairy is wifi, but if you're installing from a DVD that won't be a problem
12:50<babilen>hmm, no idea actually. There might be an IRC client for the ipod touch ..
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12:50<sixtila>or through any http:// like freenode? if there is
12:50<babilen>Have a look at the install guide, it explains everyhting in great detail
12:51<sney>sixtila: you could use mibbit.
12:51<babilen>you can come to the freenode channel as well. a lot of people are in both channels
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12:52<babilen>But the installation should not be problematic ... Just in case you want to ask a question
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12:53<sixtila>i heard fedora steals info ! any ture?
12:53<babilen>no idea
12:53<babilen>I doubt it though
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13:06<sixtila>balilen is babilen_ also you?
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13:08<sixtila>babilen looks like the #debian room here and the #debian room in the ipod are different!
13:09<babilen>sixtila: this is the channel on OFTC and the other is on freenode. But that does not really make a difference
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13:11<sixtila>does flash have problem with debian 64?
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13:13*zedboy is in an ipod
13:13<babilen>sixtila: no
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13:14<babilen>sixtila: just install debian and try it, if you have problems/issues/wishes -> ask
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13:56<jpinx-eeepc>HAPPY XMAS!!
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14:04<babilen>jpinx-eeepc: happy ecks-mas!
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14:08<eaglerock_>jpinx-eeepc: happy christmas!
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14:11<tank>Hello! I have Debian Lenny install (installed via network install because CD-ROM won't boot from CD, but will read audio CDs). How do I manually try and mount my .iso on CD-ROM?
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14:12<tank>Can a faulty CMOS battery cause CD-ROM/booting problems?
14:14<tank>streuner: any idea how to troubleshoot if its the drive or my debian install?
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14:15<streuner>tank: an extern USB-CDROM/DVD?
14:15<tank>I also have am informed that I am not in the sudoers file?
14:15<tank>streuner: I wish!!
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14:16<tank>streuner: this is an old P3 Gateway Prifle 3 (all-in-one) PC
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14:17<tank>do you think it could boot from an SATA drive - I have one I took out of another computer
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14:18<tank>How do I get myself in the sudoers file?
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14:19<DarkPurpose>you have to edit the sudoers file
14:19<tank>DarkPurpose: I can access anything via GUI, but when I try via cli I get the sudoers file error
14:20<DarkPurpose>you need to log in as root and edit the sudoers file with the right editor
14:20<DarkPurpose>stand by for more...
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14:21<chealer>tank: I don't understand what you mean by mounting a .iso on CD-ROM
14:22<DarkPurpose>have you installed sudo?
14:22<tank>chealer: I probably used the wrong term - I would like to view the contents of an .iso on CD-ROM as I am wondering why I cannot boot from said .iso on CD-ROM
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14:23<tank>chealer: Audio CDs are no problems
14:23<tank>DarkPurpose: installed sudo?
14:23<tank>DarkPurpose: like via synaptic?
14:23<DarkPurpose>you want to view the contents of a .iso file. that takes a special program, doesn't it?
14:24<DarkPurpose>or via cli logged in as root
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14:24<tank>my linux mint machines can view contents of .iso on cd-rom
14:24<DarkPurpose>i've never tried the .iso streuner, a windoze user told me that
14:24<tank>DarkPurpose: slight problem - I don't recall root password
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14:25<DarkPurpose>slight problem= big problem
14:25<tank>DarkPurpose: I can adminsiter system via GUI however
14:25<DarkPurpose>i don't know how that works
14:26<DarkPurpose>can you do things like administer users?
14:26<tank>DarkPurpose: yes
14:28<DarkPurpose>you are running with root privileges
14:29<DarkPurpose>okay. back to installing sudo. have you (via synaptic, apt-get, etc)?
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14:29<tank>DarkPurpose: yes - - actually just checked via symaptic and "sudo" in stalled
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14:30<DarkPurpose>well, normally you would edit sudoers file as root
14:30<DarkPurpose>at this point
14:30<tank>DarkPurpose: what's the path
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14:31<chealer>tank: you have a .iso file in a CD's contents, as a file?
14:31<tank>chealer: no, not as a "file"
14:31<babilen>tank: just execute 'visudo' as root (you might have to set $EDITOR or $VISUAL to an editor of your choice)
14:32<tank>chealer: its a debian LDXE live CD
14:32<DarkPurpose>i think i remember browsing an .iso now in linux; long time ago
14:32<babilen>tank: But you don't need sudo to mount an ISO
14:32<DarkPurpose>the path is /etc/sudoers
14:32<chealer>tank: in that case you don't want to mount a .iso, you want to mount your CD-ROM. you can should be able to do that easily, depending on your desktop environment
14:33<tank>DarkPurpose: I got a command not found
14:33<chealer>tank: (in any case, mount can do it wihout difficultuy)
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14:33<DarkPurpose>cd /etc/sudoers
14:33*chealer bbl
14:33<tank>chealer: I'm not able to boot from any live CD - so must be something wrong with CD drive itself?
14:34<chealer>tank: maybe, but more likely with the motherboard/BIOS
14:34<DarkPurpose>bios, or did it work before?
14:35<tank>DarkPurpose: for original install I used a live cd, but upon next upgrade I had to do via network install...
14:35<babilen>tank: you enabled cd booting in the bios, or?
14:35<tank>babilen: yes
14:35<babilen>tank: What is the problem with the netinstall cd?
14:36<tank>babilen: stopped being able to boot from cd
14:36<tank>all-in-one PC is tricky to take apart - or at least for me
14:36<babilen>tank: as in: "when i try to boot the cd, my computer begins to curse and bites my hands" ?
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14:37<DarkPurpose>mine did that once or twice. had to shut down and pull the plug to restart
14:37<tank>babilen: :) actually - it acts as if it has not seen CD rom
14:37<babilen>tank: Does it _try_ to boot the cd and that fails (for whatever reason) or do you run into problems actually booting it, or what?
14:38<tank>babilen: sometimes I can hear it spinning....
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14:38<babilen>tank: Can you verify that you burned the content of the iso and not the iso file itself on the cd, please
14:38<babilen>tank: and you can boot from a live cd just fine?
14:38<tank>babilen: I assure I burned it correctly as I booted to other newer machines from this very live cd
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14:39<babilen>ok, just checking
14:39<tank>babilen: it reads audio cds, but won't boot a live CD - weird!
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14:39<DarkPurpose>tank: do you see bios hardware detection when you start up pc or just gateway splash screen??
14:40<babilen>tank: check the bios settings again
14:40<tank>DarkPurpose: Gateway splash, then I press F2 to access BIOS settings
14:40<babilen>tank: if that does all not help you can install with a USB stick or do a network installation
14:41<DarkPurpose>check settings; mine would choke on drive detection at startup until i pulled plug
14:41<tank>babilen: I think a P3 is too old for install from USB stick....
14:41<tank>babilen: unless you know some cool trick?
14:42<babilen>alright, and I assume that you do not have a DHCP server around on which you could place an image to be retrieved via PXE/tftp ?
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14:42<DarkPurpose>tank: make sure bios is still detecting cd drive
14:43<babilen>!usb install
14:43<dpkg>Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at BIOS can't boot from USB? Use
14:43<babilen>tank: But try to get it booting from the CD .. try different CDs and check the BIOS settings
14:43<tank>DarkPurpose: how would I verify that - other than picking in bios settings?
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14:44<tank>plop ?
14:44<DarkPurpose>tank:go to bios and see if it is "seeing" cd drive on ide channel
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14:45<tank>DarkPurpose: okay - I will have to back....
14:45<babilen>tank: also check if the CD is really the first entry in the boot order
14:45<DarkPurpose>tank: it should indicate what drives are attached to each ide channel master and slave, if present
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14:46<tank>DarkPurpose: I've seen Primary and Secondary
14:46<DarkPurpose>i don't remember precisely where it tells you that, poke around
14:46<tank>DarkPurpose: okay - will do. be back ...
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14:46<tank>DarkPurpose: and thanks!
14:46<DarkPurpose>well, make sure it says cd rom or atapi cd rom or something
14:46<DarkPurpose>where you expect it
14:47<tank>DarkPurpose: Oh, how do I tell if my cd rom is atapi or scsi?
14:47<DarkPurpose>you bet . good luck
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14:47<DarkPurpose>what kind of cable attaches to it?
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14:48<tank>DarkPurpose: ....shrugs - no idea
14:48<tank>DarkPurpose: I thought there might be a command that woujld tell me
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14:48<DarkPurpose>ide is a flat ribbon with 40 or 80 conductors
14:48<DarkPurpose>never messed with scsi actually. just make sure a cd drive is listed somewhere in bios hardware detection
14:49<tank>DarkPurpose: okay - will check....
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14:50<jvai>hey thanks.. see u'all 'round
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14:53<blackstar>hello every one. ... i need some help with my Toshiba Laptop M505, my fan does not turn on ... i have to suspend and then wake up for it to turn on
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14:53<blackstar>look's like it's somethign with the acpi
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15:00<tank>I have CD rom set to boot from, but it won't...
15:00<tank>I did just find a root terminal entry via menu...
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15:00<dr|z3d>tank: Check your bios, make sure it's set to boot from cd before hd.
15:01<tank>DarkPurpose: care to guide me in the sudoes editing?
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15:01<tank>dr|z3d: unless I'm doing something wrong, it is...
15:01<tank>I have nothing in my sudoers file??
15:01<tank>oh, its a new file...
15:02<tank>spellit wrong :\
15:02<tank>should be /etc/sudoers?
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15:06<babilen>tank: are you at the computer now?
15:06<tank>babilen: yes
15:06<babilen>tank: is it running windows?
15:07<tank>babilen: no debian lenny (before it became stable install)
15:08<DarkPurpose>tank: does your root terminal work for you?
15:08<tank>I found a root terminal entry via GUI ....
15:08<babilen>tank: and you want to reinstall?
15:09<DarkPurpose>and.......can you access said terminal?
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15:10<tank>DarkPurpose: I am chatting to you from this debian PC - yes would eventually like to reinstall if I could get it to boot from CD-Rom, rather than the floppy/netinstall route
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15:11<tank>DarkPurpose: perhaps I should just break down and crack this thing open, removed hard drive and install from my mint machine and then reinstall and see if it boots?
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15:12<tank>DarkPurpose: I'd like to play a little more and figure out why I'm not in sudoers... before I pull the plug. Lenny is a little different from Linux mint
15:12<babilen>tank: do you have windows on that machine? and why do you want to reinstall?
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15:13<tank>babilen: do not have windows - when I got machine at auction it had no OS and I'm not about to buy a license for windows, so I went with Debian Lenny
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15:13<babilen>tank: why not stay with it?
15:13<tank>babilen: I'm not happy with how this is setup - for example sudo does not work
15:14<DarkPurpose>tank: what happens when you click on root terminal? does it come up?
15:14<tank>babilen: eventually, I will donate this machine to a local thrift store and would like to wipe the harddrive and do a fresh install
15:14<DarkPurpose>tank: sudo can be fixed with root access
15:14<babilen>tank: just open a terminal, type 'su' enter your root password and then 'visudo'
15:14<tank>DarkPurpose: yes root terminal came up
15:14<babilen>tank: what else do you want to change?
15:15<DarkPurpose>okay. type whoami
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15:15<tank>babilen: I don't remember my root password
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15:15<babilen>tank: ok, whoami in the root terminal?
15:15<smiley>sudo passwd root
15:15<DarkPurpose>tank: type whoami in that root terminal
15:15<smiley>if you have sudo access that is :P
15:15<tank>babilen: would like to use CD rom for other than audio - but I get "probably no media"
15:16<tank>DarkPurpose: root :)
15:16<DarkPurpose>okay. it works.
15:16<babilen>tank: 'passwd' and set a new password (one that you remember)
15:17<tank>babilen: it came back "unknown user ****"
15:18<tank>I'd really just like to fix the sudoers issue
15:19<tank>DarkPurpose: ?
15:19<DarkPurpose>tank: okay, do you know how to use vi?
15:19<tank>DarkPurpose: yes
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15:20<babilen>tank: visudo
15:20<babilen>bbl, have fun
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15:20<DarkPurpose>tank: great, cause i don't! but anyway, should be visudo /etc/sudoers
15:21<tank>got it
15:21<tank>I'm in
15:21<DarkPurpose>i always run export EDITOR=nano
15:22<tank>DarkPurpose: oh wait - I used root terminal but not visudo
15:22<DarkPurpose>start visudo in that root terminal please
15:22<tank>it gives me options -c -q -s -V -f sudoers ???
15:23<DarkPurpose>that's where i get lost. not really well versed in vi (sorry oldtimers)
15:24<DarkPurpose>do you have nano installed?
15:24<tank>it brought up the file via root terminal "vi /etc/sudoers"
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15:24<DarkPurpose>well, thats what i said to do
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15:24<tank>I went back in that way - lets give it a try
15:24<patrikf>eh, policykit sucks... I can't even restore old plugdev behaviour
15:24<DarkPurpose>see above :)
15:24<tank>DarkPurpose: want me to use nano? sure
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15:25<DarkPurpose>not if you have it pulled up now in visudo
15:25<DarkPurpose>must be visudo, not just vi
15:25<tank>I am in root terminal started via GUI - so it confuses me.
15:25<DarkPurpose>makes no difference
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15:26<DarkPurpose>close vi and run visudo /etc/sudoers
15:26<tank>anyhow, I have the file open
15:26<DarkPurpose>open in vi or visudo?
15:26<tank>visudo just gives me options
15:26<tank>DarkPurpose: root terminal via vi
15:26<DarkPurpose>okay, close vi
15:27<tank>DarkPurpose: can we do nano instead?
15:27<DarkPurpose>and run from the command line: editor EXPORT=nano
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15:27<tank>okay, ready
15:27<DarkPurpose>export EDITOR=nano
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15:28<tank>okay, now Im set
15:28<DarkPurpose>last one is correct :P
15:28<tank>DarkPurpose: okay, all set
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15:28<DarkPurpose>okay, returned to prompt?
15:28<tank>DarkPurpose: yes
15:29<DarkPurpose>hold on
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15:31<tank>DarkPurpose: do I just add my name to the user privilege section with ALL?
15:32<DarkPurpose>user ALL=(ALL) ALL
15:32<tank>DarkPurpose: user?
15:32<DarkPurpose>replace user with your username
15:32<tank>oh okay - got it
15:33<tank>DarkPurpose: do I need to restart or something?
15:33<DarkPurpose>save the file with control x
15:34<tank>okay, did that
15:34<DarkPurpose>should work now without restarting
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15:35<DarkPurpose>su (insert your username here) and enter
15:35<DarkPurpose>then run something like: sudo aptitude
15:36<tank>su ***** aptitude works
15:36<DarkPurpose>it asked you for your user password?
15:37<tank>DarkPurpose: so now I can reset root password too?
15:37<DarkPurpose>and aptitude came up without the warning: "read only mode" ??
15:37<tank>DarkPurpose: yep, just started right up
15:38<DarkPurpose>well congrats then
15:38<tank>whoami says I am "my user name"
15:38<tank>DarkPurpose: thanks!
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15:38<DarkPurpose>my pleasure
15:39<tank>now a repo question - I installed Debian lenny before it became stable and have been getting repo errors - shoujld I have changed something?
15:39<tank>should be an update log right?
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15:40<DarkPurpose>thats beyond my expertise: i've always used stable releases
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15:40<DarkPurpose>someone will know
15:40<tank>DarkPurpose: okay. Thanks so much for all your help :)
15:40<dpkg>If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too.
15:41<DarkPurpose>good luck tank
15:42<DarkPurpose>i have a bunch of books here i can reference when all else fails
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15:43<tank>DarkPurpose: which ones you have?
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15:45<DarkPurpose>tank: debian 3.1 bible
15:45<DarkPurpose>o'reilly's running linux
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15:46<tank>DarkPurpose: hmm...I'll have to look into that.
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15:46<DarkPurpose>install manuals from mandrake 7, slackware, suse, caldera, old stuff (still works most times)
15:47<tank>Any idea why I get a message that there is no media found in my CDROM?
15:47<tank>let me try a music cd again
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15:48<DarkPurpose>the debian bible has been indespensable
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15:49<DarkPurpose>tank: go back to root terminal and fix your password
15:49<tank>DarkPurpose: my root password?
15:50<DarkPurpose>did you fix that yet?
15:51<tank>DarkPurpose: no
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15:51<DarkPurpose>reopen that root terminal and type: passwd (enter)
15:53<tank>DarkPurpose: it says "unknown user ****" - I am logged in as root
15:53<tank>DarkPurpose: Can I be logged in as "user" and change the root password?
15:53<DarkPurpose>type whoami
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15:54<tank>whoami = root
15:54<DarkPurpose>okay, you should be able to type passwd and hit enter
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15:54<DarkPurpose>note spelling of command: passwd
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15:55<tank>when I type "passwd ****" and press enter I get "unknown user ****"
15:55<DarkPurpose>don't do that. just type passwd and then hit enter
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15:55<DarkPurpose>nothing else
15:56<tank>passwd **** = "unknown user ****"
15:56<DarkPurpose>it should bring up prompt that says "enter new unix password:"
15:56<tank>DarkPurpose: whoami = root
15:56<DarkPurpose>what are the ****??
15:56<tank>DarkPurpose: hmmm.... very odd indeed
15:56<babilen>tank: just enter 'passwd' and hit enter (do *not* type anything after passwd)
15:57<tank>DarkPurpose: **** = the password I was trying to set
15:57<Lethalman>tank, please try to read what other users say
15:57<DarkPurpose>passwd, no new password
15:57<tank>babilen: thanks that worked!!!
15:57<DarkPurpose>i tried :)
15:58<tank>everyone has been very helpful - sorry to try your patience
15:58<Lethalman>it's Christmas people ;)
15:58<babilen>tank: do you have any more problems!
15:58<tank>learning, learning learning! :)
15:58<babilen>yay for christmas!
15:58<babilen>tank: s/!/?
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15:58<DarkPurpose>be glad it's christmas :)
15:58<tank>babilen: just the "no media found" via CD rom when it is something other than an audio CD
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15:59<babilen>tank: ok - just because you mentioned something lenny related earlier
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16:00<tank>babilen: yes, this is a lenny install before lenny was stable
16:00<tank>I must be missing cd filesystem stuff...?
16:01<babilen>tank: should not be a problem. Just make sure you update regularly. May I have a look at your sources.list? Paste it at
16:01<tank>babilen: lets see its /etc/apt/sources.list?
16:01<babilen>tank: exactly
16:02<babilen>tank: You can install pastebinit (aptitude install pastebinit) and then just 'pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list'
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16:02<babilen>tank: also 'apt-cache policy | pastebinit'
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16:05<tank>babilen: apt-cache policy?
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16:06<tank>babilen: I don't see apt-cache policy...
16:08<babilen>tank: you have a duplicate entry: deb lenny main contrib non-free
16:08<babilen>apart from that it looks fine
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16:08<babilen>tank: you might want to spend some time with the debian reference ;-)
16:09<tank>babilen: yes, that's probably a good idea - any good online or free pdf sources?
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16:10<jmarsden>!tell tank about grounding
16:10<jmarsden>!tell tank about reference
16:10<tank>jmarsden: groundin?
16:10<babilen>tank: You can just install it. It's in the package debian-reference and you'll find the files (like documentation for all other packages) at /usr/share/doc/<package-name>
16:11<jmarsden>tank: Read what dpkg just told you...
16:11<tank>jmarsden: debian-reference - cool!
16:11<tank>going to get it now - thank you all for your help :)
16:11<tank>and Merry Christmas! o/
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16:11<babilen>have fun
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16:27<chaos>is there some kind of tool to cut files up into smaller files which can be then rejoined with copy?
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16:32<chahibi>chaos: split
16:33<chaos>it's just too obvious :)
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16:35<DarkPurpose>chahibi: do you use cat to rejoin?
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16:36<tank>Hello again! How do I set ownership of the cd-rom?
16:38<chahibi>DarkPurpose: yes, "cat prefix?? > large_file"
16:39<tank>In Cd-rom properties the owner is "unknown"
16:39<chahibi>tank: what cd burner do you use?
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16:39<tank>chahibi: not sure what you mean?
16:40<chahibi>tank: the program you used to create your CD
16:40<tank>chahibi: I burn in linux mint using either Gnomebaker or Braserio
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16:41<tank>chahibi: I'm wondering why my lenny install cd-rom properites show owner as "unknown" read only
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16:42<DarkPurpose>need to add "cdrom" to your list of groups??
16:42<tank>DarkPurpose: as easy as that?
16:43<DarkPurpose>might be all it is
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16:43<DarkPurpose>you have a user manager?
16:44<tank>DarkPurpose: you mean a "person" or what?
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16:45<DarkPurpose>a user manager to add/delete/edit users on that machine
16:45<tank>DarkPurpose: oh well, that didn't change ownership
16:45<DarkPurpose>i use kde
16:45<tank>DarkPurpose: Gnome
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16:46<DarkPurpose>there should be something equivalent
16:46<tank>via menu System > Users & groups
16:46<DarkPurpose>will need root password
16:46<tank>DarkPurpose: I added cdrom under my "groups"
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16:47<DarkPurpose>that should cure it
16:47<tank>DarkPurpose: thanks again for all the help - gotta go
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16:48<DarkPurpose>i have a feeling he'll be back ;)
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16:57<mdmarmer>im having trouble with the "read-only file system" error
16:58<mdmarmer>ive run fsck from another partition with the problem partition not mounted
16:58<mdmarmer>i reboot and im still getting the error
16:59<mdmarmer>i think the hardware is ok -- the other partition booted with no errors
16:59<valdyn>mdmarmer: thats an ext3 filesystem?
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17:00<valdyn>mdmarmer: what did fsck claim to have fixed?
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17:01<mdmarmer>i didnt see any errors
17:01<valdyn>mdmarmer: whats in dmesg when you booted with the ro fs
17:01<mdmarmer>it did say FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED __ REBOOT LINUX
17:01<mdmarmer>i tried that once & didnt see anything -- ill try again
17:02<valdyn>mdmarmer: so it actually was mounted?
17:03<mdmarmer>no -- that was after the unmounted fsck (as I remember) didnt find any errors i ran fsck -c _C from the read only file system & thats what it said
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17:04<mdmarmer>no errors showing in dmesg
17:05<valdyn>mdmarmer: -c must have taken a long time...
17:05<mdmarmer>yes -- a little less than 10 min
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17:06<valdyn>mdmarmer: no idea - if fsck did its job then the partition is ok
17:07<valdyn>mdmarmer: and since you used -c, then you can be sure that the disk is ok too at that area
17:07<valdyn>mdmarmer: maybe you checked the wrong partition
17:07<mdmarmer>yeah -- ill reboot a few more times or do fsck again but ive been fooling with this for a good while
17:07<valdyn>mdmarmer: 10 minutes is really low
17:07<mdmarmer>thanks --- happy holidays
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17:20<sixtila>new to debian - how do i mount my other harddisk(ntfs)
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17:21<sixtila>nvalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume
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17:24<smiley>mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdx# /media/mountpoint
17:24<sixtila>epiphany doesnt work as well
17:24<smiley>if it wasnt shutdown properly, you'll have to add -o force onto the end
17:24<sixtila>i just insed debiantall
17:24<sixtila>Failed to execute child process "epiphany-browser" (No such file or directory)
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17:29<sixtila>smiley do i have to put the cdrom every time i install new package?
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18:08<sixtila>just installed debian - need help
18:08<sixtila>cant start epiphany
18:08<dr|z3d>What error, sixtila?
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18:08<sixtila>Failed to execute child process "epiphany-browser" (No such file or directory)
18:09<sixtila>i cant find firefox either in the synaptik
18:09<dr|z3d>You won't.
18:09<dr|z3d>Look for IceWeasel instead.
18:09<dr|z3d>(Unbranded Firefox).
18:09<sixtila>is there a way to fix epiphany?
18:10<dr|z3d>try: aptitude reinstall epiphany-browser
18:10<dr|z3d>(from a command prompt, as root).
18:10<dr|z3d>I'd also recommend: aptitude install midori
18:10<dr|z3d>(Nice light fully featured browser)
18:11<dr|z3d>(and the Japanese for "green", fwiw).
18:11<sixtila>can i use firebug in any of the browsers in Debian?
18:11<sixtila>in Epiphany?
18:11<dr|z3d>IceWeasel *is* Firefox in all but name.
18:12<dr|z3d>So IceWeasel for all your Firefox addon needs. Not epiphany.
18:12<sixtila>then i better use iceweasel and uninstall epiphany then
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18:13<sixtila>whats midori?
18:13<hardwire_>a browser
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18:13<dr|z3d>(Nice light fully featured browser)
18:13<dr|z3d>Pay attention, sixtila!
18:14<sixtila>yeah, my bad
18:14<dr|z3d>Midori is the official browser for Xfce.
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18:14<sixtila>my sound, wireless , nothing seems to be supported
18:14<dr|z3d>It probably is; it also probably needs work to activate.. this is Debian, not Ubuntu!
18:14*dr|z3d winks.
18:15<sixtila>can i get help for the wireless please
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18:17<sixtila>wow! i just did this and everything is removed from the computer aptitude reinstall epiphany-browser
18:18<sixtila>omg! everything is gone!
18:19<dr|z3d>That should have done no more than reinstall epiphany.
18:19<sixtila>i wish
18:19<dr|z3d>try aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade
18:19<sixtila>epiphany-browser is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled.
18:19<sixtila>epiphany-browser is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled.
18:19<sixtila>The following packages will be REMOVED:
18:19<sixtila> alacarte{u} app-install-data{u} arj{u} aspell{u} bluez-gnome{u} bsh{u}
18:19<sixtila> bsh-gcj{u} bzip2{u} capplets-data{u} cdrdao{u} cupsddk{u}
18:19-!-sixtila was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
18:20*dr|z3d laughs.
18:20<dr|z3d>If epiphany ain't installed, no surprise it doesn't run.
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18:20<dr|z3d>If epiphany ain't installed, no surprise it doesn't run.
18:20<sixtila>but really, everything is gone now!
18:21<sixtila>everything purged and removed and even unregistered
18:21<dr|z3d>It isn't, but somehow you've managed to remove dependencies.
18:21<dr|z3d>Try aptitude install epiphany
18:21<dr|z3d>It sounds like it's a core component of Gnome.
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18:22<dr|z3d>Or some subset of Gnome.
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18:22<sixtila>hmm..first experience of debian!
18:22<sixtila>not so pretty so far
18:22<dr|z3d>Anyways, you should try xfce.
18:22*dr|z3d chuckles.
18:22<sixtila>but i m willing to stick to it
18:23<dr|z3d>Xfce is another DE, or desktop envirnoment. Taskbar and desktop in Windows terms, or "shell".
18:24<dr|z3d>aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
18:24<dr|z3d>That will at the very least ensure you have a workable desktop, if you've somehow managed to nobble Gnome.
18:24<dr|z3d>You'll then need to select Xfce from your greeter, GDM (where you login).. it'll be under the Session menu.
18:25<sixtila>thank you, i m installing it
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18:25<Woet>What would be the fastest and most stable way to mount a remote folder?
18:25<Woet>sshfs? autofs? NFS? samba?
18:25<dr|z3d>Very similar in look and feel to Gnome, with less bloat.
18:25<dr|z3d>Woet: ftp works for me. :)
18:25<Woet>how would one mount FTP?
18:26<dr|z3d>You mount it in your ftp client, though that's probably not what you mean.
18:26<sixtila>Should the hddtemp daemon be started at boot??
18:26<dr|z3d>I don't know about nfs; samba I find is good once it's properly set up, but sometimes a little tricky to get working.
18:27<dr|z3d>sixtila: Up to you.. do you want to know your HD temp? :)
18:27<sixtila>i have no idea what it is!!!
18:27<sixtila>or what is does or anything
18:27<dr|z3d>Your hard drive temperature..
18:27<dr|z3d>That can be monitored, if your drive supports it.
18:28<locklace>Woet: nfs
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18:28<dr|z3d>It requires a service to be running.. if you don't much care, you shouldn't bother enabling it.
18:28<sixtila>thanks, i did no
18:28<Woet>okay, locklace
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18:30<locklace>Woet: but see also pohmelfs and dst if you're feeling avant garde
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18:30<sixtila>cool, so all the firefox addons work on iceweasel then!
18:31<dr|z3d>IceWeasel _is_ Firefox.
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18:31<dr|z3d>Just without the branding, that doesn't fit Debian's philosophy.
18:31<sixtila>how can i go about enabling my wireless cause thats very imp to me
18:31<dr|z3d>aptitude install wicd
18:31<dr|z3d>Try that for starters.
18:32<dr|z3d>If your hardware isn't supported, which is possible, but less likely these days, you may need to use a Windows driver.
18:32<dr|z3d>In which case, aptitude install ndis-wrapper
18:32<dr|z3d>What kernel are you running, sixtila?
18:32<dr|z3d>"uname -a" will tell you.
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18:33<sixtila>2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Nov 5 02:23:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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18:33<dr|z3d>Yikes. That's old.
18:33<sixtila>i do i get the latest one then
18:33<dr|z3d>I guess you're on Lenny?
18:33<sixtila>i just burned a DVD, yes it is lenny
18:34<dr|z3d>2.6.3x has much broader wireless support.
18:34<sixtila>how can i compile a newer kernel then - i have not a single idea
18:35<dr|z3d>Try aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade
18:35<dr|z3d>See if that offers a newer kernel. Should do.
18:35<sixtila>0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
18:36<sixtila>Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "wicd"
18:36<dr|z3d>Do you have network connectivity on that box?
18:36<sixtila>yes, hardwire
18:36<sixtila>i m using it right now
18:36<dr|z3d>Ok, gotcha. Just checking.
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18:37<dr|z3d>judd: versions wicd
18:37*dr|z3d never gets the syntax right. :/
18:37<dr|z3d>dpkg: judd versions wicd
18:37<dpkg>dr|z3d, you probably want to address that to judd, not to me. (Hint: leave off the ! in your command -- that's there to grab my attention not judd's)
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18:38<int_80h>wicd isn't in lenny
18:39<dr|z3d>I think we guessed that, int_80h, but thanks for confirming. :)
18:39<int_80h>i does what i cans
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18:40<domedan>dr|z3d: about that full-upgrade, i didnt find any updates either. do i have to add someting to source.list?
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18:41<dr|z3d>domedan: Good point, quite possibly you might need to, although whatever's already installed should be covered.
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18:43<sixtila>what is the command to mount my d drive (DATA) ?
18:43<domedan>dr|z3d: ok, but i got kernel 2.6.26-2-686, how do I install a new one? tried to compile one on a other computer, but got some error
18:43<dr|z3d>aptitude install ntfs-config
18:43<dr|z3d>Try that, it should pull in the dependencies and give you a ui to configure your win drives.
18:44<babilen>wicd is in lenny-backports
18:44<sixtila>Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ntfs-config"
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18:45<domedan>if you got ntfs-3g installed, run: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdX /media/some-dir
18:46<domedan>i mean /dev/sdXX (like /dev/sdb1)
18:47<babilen>domedan: You can install a new kernel from bpo
18:47<domedan>babilen: ok, what is bpo? :)
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18:47<babilen>!tell domedan -about bpo
18:47<babilen>domedan: backports
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18:48<babilen>domedan: But why do you need one?
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18:49<babilen>sixtila: you can install wicd from backports, if you want it.
18:49<domedan>babilen: wow, thanks a lot man! well on a friends acer the wireless would work right away with a newer kernel (i read somewhere) but im just intressed in what the newer kernels got to offer :)
18:49<sixtila>this is looking complicated! i think this aint the right time for me to switch to debian
18:50<sixtila>thinking of rollover to ubuntu!
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18:50<sixtila>even the internet is damn slow! 40 kb
18:51<babilen>sixtila: what looks complicated? What are you actually trying to do?
18:51<babilen>domedan: alright - i was just curious :-D
18:51<sixtila>i dont understand backports right now
18:51<sixtila>and i dont know how to compile a new kernel
18:51<sixtila>i have no wireless
18:51<sixtila>probably no, sound
18:52<babilen>sixtila: That is not a big problem and why do you want to compile a new kernel?
18:52<sixtila>cause i found mine is an older one
18:52<sixtila>maybe a new one supports my wireless and all
18:52<babilen>sixtila: It is the kernel which is currently packaged in debian stable ...
18:52<babilen>sixtila: which wireless card are we speaking about?
18:53<babilen>sixtila: you had pastebinit installed, didn't you?
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18:53<sixtila>i thought i was reinstalling epiphany earlier and now all the default apps and icons have gone too
18:53<dr|z3d>sixtila: get backports in your apt sources, then install wicd, then see what happens.
18:53<babilen>sixtila: Ok, please run 'lspci -nn' and paste the output on I'll help you to get your wireless running ..
18:54<dr|z3d>sixtila: log out and then log into xfce.
18:54<locklace>sixtila: download the .deb at, install it with dpkg -i, and reboot
18:54<babilen>ah - you already had that discussion. What is the status, why do you think sixtila needs a new kernel?
18:55<dr|z3d>babilen: For sure.. you're doing great there picking up where I left off.. carry on. :)
18:56<babilen>could you post me on the status then?
18:56<dr|z3d>I was broad-brushing it; you seem to be zoning in on specifics.
18:56<dr|z3d>I suggested wicd, first off. He managed to nuke some of Gnome, so we installed Xfce.
18:56<dr|z3d>After that, I suggested a new kernel.
18:57<dr|z3d>I'm not sure we've got to wicd yet.
18:57<dr|z3d>That's where you picked up. :)
18:57<babilen>alright - how come gnome was 'nuked' ?
18:57<babilen>and why the new kernel?
18:57<sixtila>couldnt install that thing from the website!
18:57<dr|z3d>He tried to reinstall epiphany which wasn't installed, and apitutde magically uninstalled a whole chunk of Gnome.
18:57<sixtila>everything is gone
18:58<babilen>sixtila: sorry, to keep you waiting :-)
18:58<dr|z3d>New kernel. better chance of wireless support off the bat.
18:58<sixtila>can i get the gnome back from terminal?
18:58<sixtila>it just looks so weired !
18:58<babilen>sixtila: that is unfortunate ... And you really don't know which wireless adapter you have in your computer. I could see none in the output of lspci you pasted (or I am blind now)
18:58<dr|z3d>Log out of gnome.
18:59<sixtila>i will log out of gnome and be back
18:59<dr|z3d>And then select Xfce as your session in the greeter..
18:59<dr|z3d>That's why we installed Xfce :)
18:59<sixtila>i have no logout!!
18:59<babilen>sixtila: Do you actually have internet access on the computer right now (wired) ?
18:59<sixtila>oops i do
18:59<sixtila> i will be back after logout
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18:59<dr|z3d>sixtila: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
18:59<dr|z3d>oh, too late.
19:00<babilen>i fear that he is really confused right now ... kernel, wicd, gnome, xfce, sources.list :-D
19:00<domedan>hehe, yeah :P
19:00<dr|z3d>Well, he could have chosen Ubuntu, but he chose Debian. Nuff said. ;)
19:01<babilen>where's judd?
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19:02<babilen>ok, too bad. He has an atheros card supported by the ath9k module. We will need to install a newer kernel from bpo
19:03<dpkg>[ath9k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11 draft-n PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Included in the mainline kernel since 2.6.27-rc3. Lenny users: ask me about <bpo> to install a later kernel image containing this driver. AR9287 supported in 2.6.32. For USB 802.11n device support, ask me about <ar9170usb>.
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19:04<domedan>isnt the madwifi driver working with that one?
19:04<babilen>judd: pciid 168c:002a
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19:18<kuruba>downloading music myspace ?
19:18<babilen>!confuse kuruba
19:18<kuruba>downloading music myspace
19:18<dpkg>No, them is our badger tomorrow, kuruba? Lederhosen of the Monarchy of Belarus with extra anchovies.
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19:19<dpkg>A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed!
19:19<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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19:23<domedan>does anyone use ircII client? i just started to use it
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19:24<babilen>nope, irssi here (great client)
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19:25<domedan>babilen: ok, just google it. it looks good :) might try that one
19:25<domedan>babilen: how do you toggle channel on that one?
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19:27<babilen>domedan: i just switch between them with alt+[1-9a-z] ... IIRC that functionality is provided by a plugin ...
19:28<domedan>babilen: okay, nice, just installed it :P
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19:29<domedan_>lol :P
19:29<babilen>domedan: it's ... install the scripts package and possibly scriptassist to install other scripts as well (like nicklist or hilightwindow, ...)
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19:31<domedan_>babilen: ok thanks! think im gonna read some tutorials ans stuff, havent used irc much
19:31<babilen>domedan_: good idea .. have fun
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20:06<BCM43>Hey I just installed debian testing on my acer aspire one via a usb flash drive, and but boots into grub rescue. I tried to get super gub disk to fix it, but it hangs on the command embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd1,0). Any ideas?
20:07<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
20:08<babilen>not sure why super grub is failing, but chrooting from a live CD (grml) might help
20:11<BCM43>babilen: ok, thanks
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20:43<domedan>babilen: i saw you were talking about grub, I havent found an answer on how to get a password for grub 1.97 (known as grub2 i think) do you know how to fix that?
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20:43<satanus>i'm trying to change the mouse cursor theme via ~/.Xdefaults file (using user ~/.icons for user mouse theme), but after having defined the theme that i want and restart the system the theme only comes up for the first few seconds as openbox comes up and then switches back to the system default - does anyone know what is going on?
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20:44<inzo>satanus: sounds like you changed the X theme, but openbox has its own
20:45<domedan>satanus: maybe you got someting in ~/.config/openbox/ autosetting something
20:45<satanus>domedan, hmmm...
20:45<satanus>inzo, ?
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20:47<domedan>satanus: or maybe you need to disable something in obconf so it wont load system-default :P i dont know
20:48<domedan>satanus: but do you got that
20:49<satanus>domedan, yeah changing it now, going to comment out all if it and restart the system
20:49<babilen>domedan: might provide some pointers
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20:50<satanus>domedan, yeah no go..
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20:53<domedan>satanus: thanks for the link about grub! :D
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20:54<satanus>satanus, me... ?
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20:54<domedan>satanus: ops, wrong nickname :P
20:55<domedan>lets try again ^^
20:55<domedan>babilen: thanks for the link about grub! :P
20:56<domedan>your two nicknames got the exact same lenght
20:56<domedan>and mine too i saw now :P
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20:59<inzo>satanus: does .Xdefaults override the cursor theme?
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21:02<satanus>inzo, yes... it should... when you define it...
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21:03<satanus>inzo, examples:
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22:35<Hermitcrabred>Hi evryone, I`m new to all this, I`m wanted to know if Free BSD (Debian) could be right for me?...Thanx
22:35<Hermitcrabred>Sorry about the grammar
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22:37<TCW>Hermitcrabred, how should we know that?
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22:45<deniz>does anyone here use an HD4850 or similar with fglrx? i just want to ask how nice the 3d is (not a problem im trying to solve)
22:45<deniz>cuz i think 9.12 just came out less than a week ago and im wondering if it can do real gaming yet
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23:17<fossiiil>stalin - An extremely aggressive Scheme compiler
23:17<deniz>does anyone here know the command to test if 3d is working with my card?
23:17<deniz>well with the driver of my card to be specific
23:18<deniz>o its glxinfo | grep rendering
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23:20<deniz>im having problems with my 3d, errors: (using fglrx-driver) xorg: (using Debian Squeeze)
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23:32<Holborn>deniz: run as root Xorg -configure .. that create a in the home root directory ... edit this file and copy to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... backup the previous if you want ... anyway what is interesting for trace the problem is the xorg.log located in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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23:36<Holborn>deniz .. better in console .. :-) or try Xorg :1 -configure
23:42<deniz>Holborn, isnt squeeze not supposed to need xorg?
23:42<Holborn>ok .. the probem that you have now is because your actual /etc/X11 is a disaster ... remove .. and rerun the command .. but maybe you will need to restart the X system whitout youe conf ... the -configure create a in the root directory .. something like a template that you need to edit ... but will be sure better :-)
23:43<deniz>i can't just edit the xorg.conf file?
23:43<deniz>Holborn, ^
23:44<Holborn>yes ... you can ... but with the "template" is really more easy ..
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23:47<deniz>Holborn, ok but what exactly is the command to do that?
23:48<Holborn>Xorg -configure
23:49<deniz>and i have to be out of my GUI?
23:50<deniz>the :1 uses tty1 or something?
23:51<deniz>sry if my questions r stupid
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23:53<Holborn>the :1 creates a second X server ... but see your actual xorg.conf .. and dont work ... try out of the X system without the :1
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