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00:14<opticon>incase anyones curious dont say all at once but a week or so ago apt wanted to remove some unused or packages that wherent needed i wasnt sure so i let it remove them but an important one was this /msg dpkg pastebin Selecting previously deselected package libapache2-mod-php5
00:15<opticon>reinstalled php5 with apt site works fine again
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00:15<GatoPardo>Lets compare Haiti's earthquake with Mexicali's. Haiti Quake: 7.0 Mexicali Quake: 7.2 Puerto Principe Population: 2 Million Mexicali Population: 800,000 Haiti Death Toll: 300,000 Mexicali Death Toll: 4 Conclusion: Haitian apes are so retarded that even the buildings of their rich fell, including their monkey president. Meanwhile, the buildings of the poor in Mexicali generally held up. Haitian Coons, nIgGG
00:15<GatoPardo>GEerrs and Jigaboos = FAIL!!!!!!!!!!! Join Chimpout Forum!
00:16<sney>opticon: sometimes apt gets confused. /msg dpkg unmarkauto
00:16<sney>!ops GatoPardo
00:16<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: sney complains about: GatoPardo
00:16<opticon>yea i see that now
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00:16<opticon>i didnt pay to close of atttention to all the crap it said was unused
00:17<opticon>so guess was my fault in away.....
00:17<sney>yeah, always look
00:17<kop>opticon: Who does?
00:17<kop>Does stable have that sort of problem, or only testing/sid?
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00:33<fredz>Can someone point me to where I can find information on getting my ALSA (ACL650/655) sound card to work on lenny.
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00:37<sney>!alsa checklist
00:37<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>.
00:37<sney>fredz ^
00:39<fredz>sney: "!alsa checklist" not sure what you mean.
00:39<sney>read what dpkg said
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00:45<fredz>dpkg: The group "audio" doesn't exist.
00:45<dpkg>fredz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
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00:46<sney>fredz: dpkg is a bot. and what do you mean the audio group doesn't exist, what did you try
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00:47<fredz>sney: I went to users/group manager (gnome) and the group audio doesn'tr exist.
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00:48<sney>fredz: open a terminal and do usermod -a -G audio yourusername
00:48<sney>(as root)
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01:01<james-a-wagner3>Is anyone here good with iptables?
01:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
01:08<fredz>sney: not having much luck here, but not know what I'm doing doesn't help. How do I stop arts or sounds and/or unload OSS modules?
01:09<sney>fredz: ignore those steps actually, they're outdated. try step 7.
01:09<fredz>sorry, that should be esound
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01:10<fredz>sney: ran the command listed, "Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono" but no sound at all. Just checked the speakers, they are working.
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01:11<sney>fredz: hmm, what does alsamixer say? any MM?
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01:12<james-a-wagner3>I have a problem with iptables. I'm running Debian version squeeze. When I try to create a rule in iptables to close RPCBIND (Port 111) on eth0 and leave it open on lo, I am unable to make it work and have Nmap show the port as closed. I tried using the "-i" option with eth0 to cause the rule only to match the ethernet interface but, that rule fails for some reason. The only way I can block rpcbind is to not specify the
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01:14<fredz>sney: the following have MM Surround, Center, LFE, Line, Mic, Phone, Aux. All others have a value and are set to max level.
01:14<sney>unmute everything just to be sure
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01:16<gsimmons>james-a-wagner3: Uh, why not just bind portmap to the loopback address? (dpkg-reconfigure portmap)
01:16<james-a-wagner3>Ok. I'll try it.
01:17<fredz>sney: now everything has 00 but still no sound.
01:19<james-a-wagner3>Thanks. That worked perfectly. :)
01:19<fredz>sney: I have obviously missed something or haven't installed something properly. I will go back and see if I can find what I have missed.
01:20<sney>fredz: it may help to log out and log back in again, too
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01:27<GPRS>hai guys
01:28<GPRS>how top install emerald theme manager in debian lenny from repositories
01:29<dr|z3d>judd versions emerald
01:29<judd>Sorry, no package named 'emerald' was found.
01:29<dr|z3d>apt-cache search emerald
01:30<GPRS>drz3d:"emerald theme manager " we need to add a repository
01:30<dr|z3d>GPRS: If you know the repository, add it! Do you?
01:31<GPRS>drz3d: i am sorry i dont know the repos
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01:31<GPRS>please help me
01:31<dr|z3d>GPRS: Have you googled?
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01:32<GPRS>drz3d:ya tried , but most of the sites they are saying to install from the source package
01:33<dr|z3d>Ok. Have you given that a go? :)
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01:34<GPRS>drz3d:no i did not , to install from source , we need to install the building packages like c compilers, libraries
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01:34<dr|z3d>Or. Have you added the Repository of Shame to your apt sources and tried that? It says it's unmaintained, but it might be worth a go before you attempt to build yourself, no?
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01:35<dr|z3d>GPRS: From my quick scanning of articles, you have but two choices. Add the repository of shame, or build yourself.
01:36<dr|z3d>And yes, building involves installing compilation tools.
01:36<GPRS>ok thank you drz3d , i will try that , thank you for your help , thank you very much
01:37<sney>GPRS: in order to have all the tools necessary for building from source, aptitude install build-essential
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01:38<GPRS>sney: okay ,thank you sney
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02:17<EmleyMoor>On my laptop, the pcspkr beep sounds more of a really odd buzz - since going to kernel 2.6.32 - is there any waay I can restore it to normal?
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02:22<EmleyMoor>I removed and readded the pcspkr module - absent, same sound - present again, silence
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02:31<jcdubacq>xset b ?
02:31<EmleyMoor>jcdubacq: Won't achieve a fix - it even does this when gdm first starts
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02:32<EmleyMoor>I don't want it not to beep, I want it to resume beeping instead of buzzing
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02:32<jcdubacq>use pulseaudio?
02:33<cahoot>EmleyMoor: so loading pcspkr silences the beep?
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02:33<EmleyMoor>cahoot: *Re*loading does - it starts out loaded
02:33<cahoot>EmleyMoor: might be the system uses snd-pcsp
02:33<ranjan>hi all any body here using Amanda or Bacula??!! I have some doubts
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02:35<EmleyMoor>cahoot: Is that in the sense of "does" or "should"?
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02:36<cahoot>EmleyMoor: is it loaded?
02:36<cahoot>ok disregard
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02:37<EmleyMoor>I notice some Ubuntu users have been reporting the same effect
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02:37<EmleyMoor>(not that I use Ubuntu of course)
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02:39<dpkg>i heard cn is China, or for help in chinese please join #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
02:39<EmleyMoor>(If I'm wrong, drop me a hint
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02:48<EmleyMoor>I can no longer call up Synaptic directly from the menu in Gnome - I see "Granting rights" then nothing. I can run it from within a Root Terminal, though, which I can call from the menu. Why would this be?
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03:10<parahumanoid>Hi, everyone! What does it mean if "iwlist modulation" gives me "unknown modulation information" on my Cisco AIR-PCM352 card? I am using a fresh minimal Lenny install from NETINSTALL CD
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03:30<gsimmons>parahumanoid: The driver (in your case, airo_cs) does not have that information available.
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03:31<mxh>Hello everyone
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03:32<mxh>anyone here?
03:33<fuadgealova>yes i hire
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03:34<mxh>I use IRC first time
03:34<fuadgealova>i just frist time
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03:36<mxh>welcome jMCg
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03:38<parahumanoid>gsimmons: what are my options? Lenny detects and successfully uses this card during the simple net install stage.
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03:39<parahumanoid>in fact, when I did a simple install without desktop environment last week, it remained operation after reboot.
03:40<mxh>what's your problem ?
03:41<parahumanoid>mxh: are you asking me?
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03:41<gsimmons>parahumanoid: From your conversation with sney yesterday, your device was working until you decided to reinstall your system with GNOME/KDE/XFCE/etc, right?
03:41<HyperHacker>hi, how do I report a problem with a package in Debian?
03:42<parahumanoid>that is right. the first simple install without a desktop worked OK.
03:42<gsimmons>HyperHacker: Use reportbug (/msg dpkg reportbug), but check the Bug Tracker System first.
03:43<gsimmons>parahumanoid: Are you using a wireless connection manager now? (e.g. NetworkManager, wicd)
03:43<parahumanoid>mxh: this is all about a Cisco AIR-PCM352 not working after full install. Doesn't seem to be working now that I've installed a minimum system either. Must have missed something.
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03:44<parahumanoid>gsimmons: is it in the base install? I've never used it. I haven't touched Linux for seven years now, so consider me a newbie.
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03:45<parahumanoid>gsimmons: I don't think it's there. The command is not found and neither is the man page.
03:45<MeglaW>atleast u chose the right dist parahumanoid
03:46<parahumanoid>Well, I made my choice way back then. It was a 3.0. "Woody" was it?
03:46<parahumanoid>I still remember people's reaction when they saw that 7-CD distro.
03:46<MeglaW>i started on etch i think
03:46<parahumanoid>Imagine the freakout now.
03:46<MeglaW>or sid
03:47<MeglaW>etch was unstable at the time or something
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03:47<parahumanoid>I never used it.
03:47<mxh>I started with lenny
03:48<parahumanoid>I was using Woody when I was taking my compiler construction class, but unfortunately it was an EXT2 install and it crashed on me. I lost my compiler. :(
03:48<mxh>I used lenny in vitualbox at first
03:48<gsimmons>parahumanoid: FWIW, I've no issues (WRT WEP) with a AIR-PCM352 at my end. As it has worked for you previously, you may be misconfiguring the interface in your subsequent installs. Ask dpkg about wireless (/msg dpkg wireless). You mentioned a lack of encryption key setting yesterday too.
03:50<parahumanoid>gsimoons: Actually, there are some changes. I'll post them to view in a minute.
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03:55<ZenoArrow>Hi all, I've got a question related to a file I got from the Debian wiki (here, specifically: ). The disk.img file has been compressed, it has a .tar.gz extension, I can extract the .gz part (I'm using 7zip) but fails when extracting the .tar part.
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03:56<ZenoArrow>I would follow the command line instructions but I'm not running Debian ATM. Does anyone know of a tool that can properly extract .tar.gz?
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03:58<mxh>tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
03:59<ZenoArrow>Thanks for replying mxh. Sorry, I should clarify, I don't have access to a Linux command line, I'm running XP, but I'm trying to get Debian installed in Aranym.
03:59<mxh>use winrar
03:59<ZenoArrow>Thank you, I'll give that a try. : )
04:00<ansgar>ZenoArrow: claims 7-Zip supports extracting tar as well.
04:00<mxh>but winrar is not a free software
04:00<ZenoArrow>ansgar, yes 7zip should support it, but it has problems extracting the file, don't know why.
04:01<ZenoArrow>mxh, I would have preferred using 7zip (or even Universal Extractor, both of which are on my machine), but if winrar gets the job done then I can get going with the Debian install.
04:02<ZenoArrow>Anyway, I'll try winrar, cheers buddies. : )
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04:03<ZenoArrow>Why not??
04:03<dr|z3d>NOT winrar.
04:03<dr|z3d>Try 7zip.
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04:03<dr|z3d>Winrar = commercial. 7zip = open source.
04:03<parahumanoid>gsimmons: what's the name of that site where I can paste my output?
04:03<ZenoArrow>Mate, read what I read, I already tried 7zip!!!
04:03<dr|z3d>And 7zip supports all the same formats.
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04:04<CQ>hello, if I have a LUKS encrypted drive, the keys (encrypted with my password) are stored in the drive header, correct? i.e. I can take that drive and moutn it elsewhere without a problem. I'm asking because I want to set up an encrypted backup drive...
04:04<ZenoArrow>Didn't support the file from the Debian wiki.
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04:04<dr|z3d>Ah, wonderful thing, scrollback!
04:04<ansgar>CQ: Yes.
04:04<dr|z3d>ZenoArrow: Odd you should have issues, 7zip should be fine with tar.gz
04:04<CQ>ansgar: ok, cool.. any gotchas to watch out for with encrypted backups (except forgetting your key) ? :)
04:05<dr|z3d>ZenoArrow: Then, sure, try winrar, but if 7zip won't open your archive, I have a suspicion winrar won't, either.
04:05<mxh>you can try winrar without buying it ,it supply 40 days trial
04:05<HyperHacker>don't forget the danger of rubber hose cryptanalysis
04:05<dr|z3d>Oh, sure.. you can use winrar indefinitely.
04:06<ZenoArrow>drz3d, guessing the file might be corrupted if winrar won't open it either, will try redownloading it if that's the case.
04:06<dr|z3d>ZenoArrow: That would be my guess, too :)
04:06<CQ>HyperHacker: lol ... this is just a case of laptop bag gets stolen at airport security, nothing seriously confidential :)
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04:08<parahumanoid>here's the output:
04:08<ZenoArrow>Okay, cheers to everyone who gave me advice, I'm off. Byeee... : )
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04:09<parahumanoid>Could it be that I am past the wifi problem and it's about routing now?
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04:10<gsimmons>parahumanoid: Probably, you do appear to be associated. How are you configuring eth1?
04:11<locklace>parahumanoid: also paste output of "ifconfig -a" and "netstat -rn"
04:12<parahumanoid>I would like to have it on DHCP. MY wifi router acts as the DHCP server. -- Requested output coming up in a minute.
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04:16<parahumanoid>Here's that ifconfig and netstat:
04:16<mxh>I want to know whether the Debian 6 will be released in 2010
04:16<mxh>waiting for the Debian 6 ....
04:17<KingKong2009>I have been experiancing X11 random crashes with Debian Squeeze, has anyone had similar issues?
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04:18<locklace>parahumanoid: haven't read up so no idea what you're trying to do, but that output shows your wifi0 interface is (a) not configured to be up, and (b) taking more errors than packets
04:19<gsimmons>locklace: wifi0 is the control/master interface WRT airo_cs, the interface parahumanoid should be configuring is eth1.
04:19<mxh>I have tried install Debian Squeeze on my computer ,but when it was loading the GDM ,it crashed
04:19<locklace>ok, same thing for that one, except that it is configured as up
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04:23<parahumanoid>so, where am I at with all of this? Keeping in mind that I want WIFI to use DHCP...
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04:24<locklace>in addition to all the errors ifconfig shows, there's a large number of "Invalid misc" in the iwconfig counters
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04:25<locklace>which all makes me think there's a low-level problem with the wireless connectivity, either physical or driver fail
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04:25<locklace>most often the latter, in my experience
04:26<gsimmons>parahumanoid: A pastebin of output from dmesg would be useful to examine.
04:29<KingKong2009> I have been experiancing X11 random crashes with Debian Squeeze, has anyone had similar issues?
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04:30<chlin1>KingKong2009: have you checked syslog?
04:30<locklace>KingKong2009: yes, usually people using an intel card
04:30<chlin1>e.g. /var/log/syslog
04:31<chlin1>or /var/log/Xorg.log
04:31<amitz>KingKong2009: yes too, nvidia.
04:31<KingKong2009>chlin1, have had a look at Xorg.log but what should I check for?
04:32<chlin1>may message that started with `EE'
04:32<chlin1>that seems to mean Error or something.
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04:35<KingKong2009>amitz, I don't have nvidia
04:35<KingKong2009>chlin1, All I get in Xorg.log from last reboot is "(EE) CHROME(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI."
04:36<KingKong2009>chlin1, I mean something that looks relevant
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04:38<chlin1>KingKong: do you use ati?
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04:39<chlin1>not very sure, but looks like driver's problem.
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04:40<michalxo>hello! How to find out which graphics driver do I use? Fresh squeeze install here
04:41<michalxo>seems like this one xserver-xorg-video-nv, but ctrl+alt+arrow is very slow :-( could be driver's problems?
04:41<CQ>if I want to map a hard drive that moves around /( like a USB drive...) what do I need to tell luksOpen to map? The UUID label?
04:42<parahumanoid>guys, thank you all for your help and comments. I am dropping the topic for now, until my CD distro is downloaded (which is tonight, being that it's noon where I am), so I'll set up MAKE first and try to compile that ACU software CISCO recommends. I'll let you know how everything went. Now that I'm back to Linux, I'll be dropping in quite a bit to pick your brain. Thanks again.
04:42<locklace>michalxo: look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for info on your driver and hw accel status
04:42<michalxo>hw accel is on.. sadly :-(
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04:43<locklace>michalxo: maybe it's just that your window manager is doing something lame then
04:43<parahumanoid>Yey! CD 28 of 31 completed!
04:44<locklace>why are you downloading 31 cds
04:44<gsimmons>parahumanoid: ACU is just a client utility. Any supplied driver would be outdated (i.e. intended for Linux 2.2 or 2.4) and unusable to you.
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04:44<mxh>I only download the first cd and install debian through network
04:45<parahumanoid>Because I am not always online and I may need one of them urgently.
04:45<michalxo>locklace, gnome.. composition is off :-/
04:45<parahumanoid>mxh: if you recall, I am not installing from network because my wifi adapter is acting up (my base100 port is busted).
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04:46<locklace>michalxo: so maybe try something besides gnome as a test
04:46<michalxo>locklace, plus, it makes only when terminal is on next desktop/workspace
04:46<michalxo>iceweasel, this xchat very fast, but going to terminal workspace lasts ~1sec (ctrl+alt+arrow, now ttyX)
04:47<parahumanoid>gsimmons: that doesn't sound good. Were you the one who told me you're using the same adapter under Lenny with no problems?
04:47<michalxo>ok so I should be using nv driver, how to get nvidia-glx-xxx?
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04:48<michalxo>just another quick question, is really offline?
04:48<parahumanoid>incidentally, when inserting my card into the slot, I get the message that the detected firmware version is 5.20.17 and WPA is available on 5.30.17. Is there a way I can flash that?
04:49<parahumanoid>Not that it matters now, since my router uses WEP currently.
04:49<mattcarlson>michaelxo: yeah it is
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04:50<random>how to read block level storage devices via kernel modules?
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04:51<random>I intend to implement block level protocol over network, for pure learning purpose.
04:51<random>has anyone any idea how to accomplish that?
04:52<gsimmons>parahumanoid: Yes, it works for me. You will need to use Cisco's ACU utility to flash 340/350 device firmware to EEPROM. The utility and firmware are available from the Cisco website.
04:54<parahumanoid>Actually, the utility was a pain to find on the official site and I ended up downloading it from somewhere else. It was my understanding that the utility for the 340/350 series had been retired from the site. Are you sure it's still available? Also, what other advantages other than WPA support did this upgrade bring about, if you performed it? Thanks.
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05:02<gsimmons>parahumanoid: I flashed a couple of Aironet cards last month using their (still available) files. Other than providing WPA support (as of v5.30.17), there's no changelog supplied.
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05:08<mjt>hehe. I tried to find their firmware just a few days ago...
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05:24<parahumanoid>gsimmons: ok, I just registered at CISCO, but for the love of god I cannot find the Linux version of ACU to download. Can you give me a hint here. They are all EXE files.
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05:26<parahumanoid>gsimmons: nevermind, I found it. Geez, their site isn't very intuitive.
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05:39<Sebastian>Hi, to run oprofile, I'd need a vmlinux file. All that gets installed is vmlinuz, however, is there a way to get me that vmlinux, either by installing another package or by extracting vmlinuz?
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05:39<Sebastian>So far, looking around for how to extract vmlinuz has only gotten me statements like "You can't use gzip for that", but nothing that would tell me how it is done ;)
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05:41<weasel>Sebastian: you don't really care about profiling the kernel
05:41<Sebastian>good to know.
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07:32<minux>hello. I have been reading up on grub because I had some trouble dual booting. It is working now. But I am curious about to lines that were added to grub menu.lst.
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07:34<minux>the lines are "map (hd0) (hd1)" and "map (hd1) (hd0)". I got this on ubuntu forums here
07:34<minux>Does anyone know what those two lines do?
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07:35<simonrvn>flips them
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07:36<minux>i don't follow. I forgot to mention that I have separate harddrives, Master = Ubuntu and Slave = Windows.
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07:38<mxh>Hi,everyone !
07:38<seeS>hello mxh
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07:42<mxh>I reinstalled my Debian lenny yesterday ,the evince finally worked normally.
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07:42<seeS>good for you!
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07:42<minux>simonrvn, cool thanks i get it. cuz of chainloading thing.
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07:43*seeS found out one of the deficiencies of grub2 last week :(
07:43<seeS>it doesnt like what HP does to the bootsector
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07:52<Laurent>hi, i don't why but now, when i want to run the gnome deamon (after the boot for example), the deamon don't work. It retry to open display six times before print "gnome has been restarted 6 times during the last 90 seconds. There is maybe a problem. It will try again in 2minutes". And after 2min, it's the same problem...
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07:52<Laurent>i such the internet but i don't find anything about this problem
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07:55<mxh>if i was you ,i would reinstall the Debian
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07:56<gmarselis>hey guys. i'm having a small issue running squeeze with 2 nvidia cards
07:56<gmarselis>driver is there, gnome starts but freezes mid-boot
07:56<Laurent>mxh: many people say "you re not on windows system, there is an other way to fix ur problem"
07:57<gmarselis>any clues, on how to debug this, would be appreciated
07:57<Laurent>i don't want to resinstall my debian when i ve a problem on my distribution
07:57<gmarselis>you can ssh just fine into the machine, after x hangs
07:57<gmarselis>but you can't kill the session
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09:14<Borja>i am new
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09:17<nixi>ola roxiii
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10:08<hermock>hi, I have an issu with my gnome desktop that do not display any icons
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10:20<b0t3x>/w $m
10:20<b0t3x>/w $me
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10:31<Amorphous>se, do not /msg people without their consent! (besides i don't understand the language you are speaking)
10:31<nixi>ola polla uii pola
10:32<nixi>me cago en vuestros ______________________
10:32<amitz>hermock: change your theme.
10:32<amitz>then change it back.
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10:33<nixi>anda callate
10:33<nixi>shut up amorphous
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10:34<nixi>jorobate amorphous
10:34<Amorphous>nixi, i don't think i understand you
10:35<Amorphous>nixi, again, please do not /msg me without my consent.
10:35<nixi>i speak in spanihs but i know english
10:35<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
10:35<Hydroxide>nixi: ^^
10:36<nixi>because i am spanish
10:37<nixi>how are you?
10:38<nixi>iros todos a la M_____________________
10:38-!-mode/#debian [+o Hydroxide] by ChanServ
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10:38<Hydroxide>(I finally put some of what nixi said into google translate)
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10:41<bja>Hydroxide: sorry was busy
10:41<Hydroxide>bja: ?
10:41<bja>forget it, i usually take care of those
10:42<Hydroxide>ah, ok. I've done my share too
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10:46<mxh>i meet the nixi in ubuntu channel
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11:07<deko>Alguém usa o G Crhome no debian 6 ?
11:08<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
11:08<jpinx-eeepc>deko: ^^
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11:09<dpkg>All there is worth knowing about Linux and laptops can be found at and . For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. Also ask me about <acpi>, <laptop mode>, <netbook>, <pcmcia>, <suspend>. . See also the debian-laptop mailing list:
11:09<dpkg>[hp] Hewlett-Packard is an American Information Technology corporation. For information on ProLiant servers and Debian, ask me about <proliant>. . See also <laptop>.
11:09<sney>!msg the bot
11:09<dpkg>Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help>
11:09<dpkg>To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <radeonhd>, <fglrx>. See also <radeon vs radeonhd>. Installing proprietary drivers from (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (
11:09<ml|>chlin: stop please
11:09<dpkg>[ssh] the Secure SHell; "aptitude install ssh" (<openssh>). Clients for other platforms include <putty>, <cygwin>, <niftytelnet> and MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and password authentication. Firewalls to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your SSH server include <fail2ban> and <denyhosts>. See also <scp>, <sftp>, <ssh without password>, <ssh permissions>, <sshx>, <ssh linedraw>, <debug sshd>, <dropbear>.
11:09<jpinx-eeepc>!tell chlin about msg the bot
11:10<chlin>can't i ask bot?
11:10<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
11:10<chlin>or there is a formal usage?
11:10<sney>chlin: /msg dpkg laptop
11:10<ml|> /msg dpkg ....
11:10<sney>you too, Patriot
11:10<chlin>oh. i see.
11:10<chlin>sorry i did not know that.
11:10<chlin>i appology for this.
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11:12<miguel>how can I turn off the mousepad on my laptop?
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11:13<bja>miguel: man synaptics, act according to your specific touchpad
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11:23<Sarago>I'm installing a fresh debian system I the only option I chose to install from the CD was base system
11:24<sney>so you got the base system
11:24<Sarago>yep, I'm installing xorg now
11:24<Sarago>I just didn't want all that other stuff that comes with Desktop
11:25<sney>fair enough, I do it the same way
11:25<Sarago>does the base system come with tools for building kernel or will I need to install development packages
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11:26<sney>the base system doesn't come with much at all. you'll need kbuild, build-essential and the appropriate kernel-sources package at the very least.
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11:54<chihiro_>ghht jlk
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12:11<goitdman>where to search for kernel dumps triggerd with 'echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger' ?
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12:13<sander-pc>Hey guys
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12:22<chrisreich>testing - please ignore
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12:32<sephirothhg>Hello, people!
12:33<muzy>hello sephirothhg
12:33<sephirothhg>Hello, muzy
12:33<sephirothhg>How are you?
12:34<muzy>I'm fine thanks. How about you?
12:34<sephirothhg>Fine too
12:34<sephirothhg>I'm having a problem with squeeze
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12:35<muzy>Don't ask to ask just ask :)
12:35<sephirothhg>The PC speaker starts to beep when I use the mouse or keyboard.
12:35<sephirothhg>Do you know something about it?
12:35<muzy>nope sorry, I've no idea. Maybe someone else is around who can help
12:36<sephirothhg>Ok, thanks anyway.
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12:36<sephirothhg>It's my first time in a debian irc channel.
12:36<muzy>just keep staying in, someone will surely have an answer
12:36<sephirothhg>Ok, thanks.
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12:37<sephirothhg>Where are you from, muzy?
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12:37<muzy>sephirothhg, from Germany, but for Offtopic Talk I recommend you to join #debian-offtopic (/join #debian-offtopic)
12:37<GandalfTheGrey>sephirothhg: It looks like you have bad keyboard... or maybe some key is stucked
12:37<goitdman>sephirothhg have you checked with your alsaconfigs ?
12:38<sephirothhg>Ok, muzy.
12:38<sephirothhg>No, my keyboard is fine.
12:38<sephirothhg>I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 now and it's working fine, without beeps.
12:38<goitdman>does it always beep or only if you type ?
12:39<sephirothhg>Only if I type or if I move the mouse.
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12:39<sephirothhg>goitdman: alsaconfigs?
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12:40<GandalfTheGrey>hi all! how can I avoid update of OpenOffice... I don't want to download 150Mb for minor updates. I read about pinning the version but for OO there is too many packages to pin. Is there an easy way?
12:40<goitdman>try '$ alsamixer'
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12:42<sephirothhg>Oh, yeah.
12:42<sephirothhg>I've typed alsamixer and setted the PC Speaker to 0
12:42<goitdman>do you still hear sound
12:43<sephirothhg>But it keeps beeping
12:43<goitdman>there is a 'beep' option
12:44<sephirothhg>I've not seen this one.
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12:44<goitdman>type '$ alsamixer', press 'F5' and move to the right
12:44<goitdman>there you find 'beep' to disable type 'M'
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12:45<goitdman>otherwise play a bit with the options
12:45<sephirothhg>But, if it works, I will stop hearing the PC speaker completelly?
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12:46<sephirothhg>I wanna keep the normal beeps, I just don't want these anormal beeps when I use kb or mouse.
12:46<muzy>louis_, stop spamming
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12:46<louis_>sorry just messing around
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12:49<sephirothhg>I'll try this, goitdman. Thanks for the help.
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12:56<Ggeen>alguien que me ayude
12:56<Ggeen>por favor
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13:40<daiver>Good day!
13:40<daiver>is anybody who is using code::blocks?
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13:44<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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13:44<daiver>dpkg, thanks!
13:44<dpkg>daiver: no worries
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13:45<daiver>ok. The problem is that I can't use debugger in my code::blocks
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13:45<daiver>Start, stop buttons.. etc are disabled
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13:53<Pattriickk>why are these chats dead
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13:57<deejoe>Pattriickk: did you have a question?
13:57<Pattriickk>yah, is debian > ubuntu?
13:58<deejoe>in age, at least, yes
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14:00<dbldtx>DIST UPGRADE!
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14:39<GandalfTheGrey>hi all! how can I avoid update of OpenOffice... I don't want to download 150Mb for minor updates. I read about pinning the version but for OO there is too many packages to pin. Is there an easy way?
14:40<cahoot>aptitude hold?
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15:36<ttick>Which header files go with 2.6.32-trunk-686? linux-headers-2.6-686? or 2.6-32-3-686?
15:36<amphi>ttick: you should be using a newer kernel
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15:38<ttick>amphi: which one would you suggest? I'm running 'testing', I think.
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15:38<ttick>amphi: I mean, squeeze
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15:39<amphi>ttick: I have 2.6.32-3 here in amd64 - i686 is 2.6.32-4 currently, I believe
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15:41<ttick>amphi: linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-68 is 2.6.32-5
15:41<ttick>amphi: I guess that answers my question --kinda. Though I don't see those headers available.
15:42<adb>squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9)
15:43<ttick>adb: so you're saying linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 is what I should install?
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15:44<ttick>adb: oh, I guess I should update to kernel (2.6.32-3) which is really 32-9. Gotcha
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15:47<Greed>It's normal when I shutdown iceweasel xulrunner or firefox-bin take 50% of my cpu? I am in testing maybe a bug :D
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15:56<michael>hello all
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15:57<chealer>Greed: no
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16:13<Necrocter>TEAM PlanB
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16:20<thiemo>hi guys
16:20<Guest1158>ok guys, I have a problem,I forgot my root password and I don`t know how to recover or change it
16:20<Guest1158>can someone help me
16:21<thiemo>use init=/bin/bash on the grub command line
16:22<old>Guest1158: Do you use sudo.
16:22<thiemo>then you can call passwd and set a new passowrd
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16:22<Guest1158>I can use my user but the the root because I don`t remember the password
16:22<thiemo>does anybody know how hibernation works?
16:23<thiemo>is there something done like re-loading of shared libs?
16:23<thiemo>i've had a lot of apps crashing after coming up from hibernation
16:25<thiemo>there are some xsession errors like that: warning: .dynamic section for "/usr/lib/" is not at the expected address (wrong library or version mismatch?)
16:25<Guest1158>I remembered it=)) thank you guys anyway,I`ll look for something that can help me in case this happen again
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16:26<thiemo>i wonder if that is caused by some apt-get updates that i've done before hibernation?
16:26<old>thiemo: Some hardware may work differently. Software should remain untouched.
16:27<thiemo>i had kdeinit4, konsole and iceweasel crashing
16:27<thiemo>all within 1-2 minutes after coming up from hibernate
16:28<thiemo>uptime was 6 days during which i did some squeeze updates
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16:29<thiemo>i'll be filing bug reports for the individual crashes, maybe someone can figure out something from the backtraces
16:29<old>thiemo: Is your swap large enough to hold the contents of RAM?
16:30<thiemo>it's the same size
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16:30<thiemo>and i'm using compression for the hibernation
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16:31<thiemo>cf. bugs 532209, 579051
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16:32<thiemo>(for the backtraces)
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16:33<Guest1158>does anyone has an online book(pdf) or something about debian?
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16:33<amphi>Guest1158: there's the debian reference, which you can install
16:34<thiemo>by the way: is there a simply way to install all -dbg packages so that i get better backtraces?
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16:36<topro>since the upgrade of freeglut3 about a week ago my glut applications segfault in fgOpenWindow. This also happens with some very simple freeglut sample application found on the web. couldn't find any bug reports about such an behaviour. any suggestions, please?
16:37<topro>I'm talking about debian squeeze installation on amd64
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16:39<thiemo>topro: i'd file a bug if i was you
16:39<Nemoder>topro: what videocard and drivers?
16:40<topro>intel driver and i945 chipset based video controller
16:41<topro>strange thing is that my desktop pc just works with the same version of freeglut3, but using nvidia hw/proprietary driver
16:41<Nemoder>intel drivers are not so good :(
16:41<Nemoder>well.. intel GPUs are not so good either! heh
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16:41<bremner>topro: I found a kernel upgrade fixed my intel graphics+amd64+squeez problems
16:41<topro>well, it's an embedded machine, so I have no choice regarding video hardware, are there alternative drivers?
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16:42<topro>bremner: which kernel upgrade?
16:42<thiemo>cu guys
16:42<bremner>I am running 2.6.32-4-amd64 from sid
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16:43<bremner>err, also known as version 2.6.32-11
16:43<topro>bremner: what kind of video problems did you have?
16:44<bremner>topro: weird colours on suspend and resume, mostly.
16:45<topro>btw. right now I'm not completely sure if Iit really runs amd64, it's an amd64 machine but iirc I used an old hd from an i386 machine, so its possible... ;)
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16:46<bremner>topro: uname -r
16:46<topro>have no access to the machin a.t.m., will have to fix some routing first
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16:47<topro>bremner: sid/2.6.32-11 is not yet built if I can trust
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16:49<topro>uname -r
16:50<topro>so it's at least an amd64 kernel, how can I check if it is amd64 userland as well?
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17:10<topro>actually it is an debian squeeze amd64 installation
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17:36<edbian>I'm using open office 3 to open files from the newest MS office. Everything is working fine in that respect. My problem is that debian defaults to opening these files with "archive manager" I have to choose open with.. and then oo3. How can I change this?
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17:39<bremner>judd: kernels --release sid
17:39<judd>Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-11)
17:39<bremner>topro: ^^
17:39<topro>bremner: hmm...
17:40<edbian>How can I change the default choice of app to open a file?
17:42<topro>bremner: ok, figured it out, my fault. 2.6.32-11 IS available in sid
17:43<topro>I'll give it a try though I don't think it is related as its a completey different behaviour than your issues and I already had 2.6.33 from experimental which behaved the same... :(
17:46<bremner>ahh, ok, if 2.6.33 didn't fix it, your probably correct.
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17:54<Linwinix>I need hekp
17:54<Linwinix>I need help with shared memory Linux
17:56<na5uta><Linwinix> lspci?
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18:01<Linwinix>i need programer
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18:04<panv>can anyone help me... i need to know how to upload a file to the web (for free) so that someone else can open it in another location !!!!
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18:07<noflash>panv, email it to them
18:07<panv>i want to send it to them.. but i don't know the email address.. they are on a forum..
18:07<panv>and i cannot attach to that forum.. coz i need to be a premium user.. and i am not willing to spend money now
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18:09<Guest1158>guys can someone help me with WOL ?
18:11<Guest1158>come on someone?
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18:12<dpkg>i guess wol is Wake-on-LAN, a method of powering on a computer remotely through the use of a "magic" packet. See and for more information. WoL utilities packaged for Debian: etherwake, wakeonlan. Online WOL services: ,
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18:13<karika200>Anybody knows, how can i turn off auto brigthness in the UVC webcam driver?
18:13<karika200>or how can I get help in connection with this?
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18:18<bremner>!tell panv -about pastebin
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18:19<GeorgeDorn>panv: rapidshare
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18:26<Guest1158>I made it work wol but the problem is that only work once why`s that?
18:27<karika200>you must enable to receiving the magic packets
18:27<karika200>/usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol g
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18:32<nathan>hi, i've installed kde desktop environment but now i have problem with all my soft wich using gtk. When i want to run this kind of app, this error is returned : I ve installed codeblocks from the sources and i compile all the dep from the sources too
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18:33<nathan>i'm sure i can find kde equivalent for gtk-using app but for example, i need codeblocks
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18:47<simonrvn>codeblocks isn't packaged in debian
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18:53<Waxhead>On windows multidisplay setup is in fact quite comfortable (with the exception of the taskbar). I have a GeForce 8600 + 7300 and I would like to do a setup that works "just like windows" (even if that's blasphemy). I am sure it is possible but what's the "out of the box" experience for such a configuration with gdm/!
18:55<Waxhead>btw: 3 monitor setup... 2x on the 8600 and 1x on the 7300 gfxcard
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18:58<sney>Waxhead: Gnome supports putting menus and panels on any display that X can see. It's just a matter of installing the nvidia drivers; /msg dpkg nvidia
18:59<sney>(the drivers can also be downloaded and installed from but that's not supported here and has potential to break your system.)
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19:01<Waxhead>sney: great thanks!
19:02<sney>honestly I had an easier time getting multi-monitor set up and sane with taskbars under debian than I ever have under any windows OS
19:03<Waxhead>sney: how many displays do you use?
19:03<sney>currently I just have a netbook but I've done up to 4-display setups before
19:04<Waxhead>sney: how does maximizing work - spread over all displays or "framed" on one display?
19:04<sney>it depends on how you set up the window behaviour but for most window managers it defaults to framed, I think
19:06<Waxhead>cool... what I am interested in is the "ouf of the box" experience :) ... I know you can configure it to hell and back if you like but I am getting old , bald and lazy and just want something that works :P
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19:06<sney>haha fair enough
19:06<sney>my wife's pc has 2 monitors and all the configuring i had to do there was add a panel to the second screen
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19:08<Waxhead>:) sounds simple enough... I'm not scared of that part - the main issue is to get the stuff running... with some luck the nouveau driver will be in debian testing soon and there will (hopefully) be no need for the nvidia's own driver!
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19:09<s_i_m>nouveau does not properly support OpenGL yet.
19:10<sney>Waxhead: I wouldn't hold your breath for nouveau. still massively unstable and no 3D
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19:11<Waxhead>Darn.... :(
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19:12<Waxhead>...or actually... if it's unstable by debian standards it should be quite useable :D
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19:13<sney>haha well I don't think anyone else trusts it yet either
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19:13<Waxhead>well... thats bad news :P
19:14<sney>it's being actively worked on, my guess is it'll make it into testing sometime after squeeze goes stable
19:15<rijo>hi @ll
19:15<Waxhead>yup... not much to read about squeeze freeze date on the website yet... any recent news on it ?
19:15<sney>Waxhead: nothing more than the bets
19:15<sney>dpkg: wwsr
19:15<dpkg>Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See
19:15<rijo>did a du this morning (squeeze) and now my touchpad has tapping disabled
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19:16<rijo>is it not config'd in udev anymore?
19:16<s_i_m>rijo, check BTS
19:16*Waxhead thinks no tapping is a improvement!
19:16<rijo>whats BTS?
19:16<sney>tap to click got disabled by default in a testing xorg update several weeks ago, you should be able to re-enable it in xorg.conf if nowhere else
19:17<sney>bts is the bug tracking system, or where you should go first if something is weird in squeeze
19:17<s_i_m>Bug Tracking System
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19:17<rijo>ok... i've been googling all day and can't find a solutioin
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19:18<Waxhead>rijo: what touchpad do you have ?
19:18<s_i_m>solution is simple: you just need to explicitly configure synaptics in xorg.conf
19:18<rijo>i know some time ago the config got switched from xorg.conf to hal and then to udev so i got it set up in udev
19:18<rijo>so whats changed?
19:18<s_i_m>they broke something, as usual
19:20<rijo>Waxhead: "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
19:20<rijo>so its back to config in xorg.conf?
19:20<rijo>i'll try it
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19:21<mthorn>Hi, I'm having a problem with my debian squeeze install. several times in the last week, whenever I press my control key (actually my caps lock key), my t key is also pressed
19:21<Waxhead>rijo: IIRC I found a simple GUI configuration tool for my acer aspiere one A150
19:21<mthorn>is a known bug? is there a simple way to fix this? Rebooting is fixing it for me, but that's obviously inconvenient
19:21<rijo>Waxhead: whats it called?
19:22<Waxhead>rijo: booting my netbook now to find out :)
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19:23<s_i_m>rijo, something like this should be enough
19:23<Waxhead>rijo: gsynaptics
19:24<rijo>s_i_m: thx i'll try it
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19:24<rijo>Waxhead: yeah, i heard of that one a while back. apparently it didn't work with the udev thing so maybe its worth a try again
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19:25<Waxhead>rijo: search for gpointing-device or something similar to that instead... Ithink the gsynaptics is abandoned
19:26<rijo>i use kde any way so there may be other issues too but we'll see
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19:30<s_i_m>btw, anyone with 2.6.32-3-686 kernel noticed that it eats lots of memory (perhaps in SLUB allocator)?
19:31<s_i_m>on my notebook with 1G of RAM it eats about 300 Мб after several hours of work.
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19:37<jason>firefox isnt in the repos??
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19:37<s_i_m>jason, install iceweasel
19:38<jason>is that firefox?
19:38<jason>I want firefox..
19:38<s_i_m>thats firefox, rebranded =)
19:38<jason>guess my hopes were a little higher than they shoulda been for debian...
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19:38<jason>we'll try the tarball installer for firefox...
19:39<bobi1024>iceweasel is firefox
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19:39<jason>if its firefox, why rename it?
19:39<na5uta>iceweasel sucks, icecat is better
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19:39<s_i_m>jason, google for it
19:39<bobi1024>yeah google Mozilla Corporation software rebranded by the Debian project
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19:40<bobi1024>there is an article in the wikipedia too
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19:41<bobi1024>i need some info
19:41<bobi1024>i'm going to buy toshiba laptop
19:41<jason>I wouldnt :(
19:41<jason>very bad luck with toshiba laptops
19:41<jason>every once I've had has died
19:42<bobi1024>but I want to know is the Toshiba Express Port Replicator is supported by debian
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19:43<bobi1024>I know that Lenovo have the best linux support
19:43<sney>bobi1024: everyone has different experiences... I haven't had any problems with toshiba laptops that I haven't also seen with other brands, and I used to fix them for a living
19:43<sney>toshiba is pretty good. and their port replicators are just hardware extensions of what's already on the motherboard, so they work fine
19:44<bobi1024>so no problems with debian
19:44<sney>not that I'm aware of. sometimes they use cutting edge wifi controllers that need a newer kernel, but that's easy
19:44<sney>gotta run
19:44<s_i_m>mine is from DELL, also no problems. But it is quite old already
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19:46<jason>how can I install aurora gtk engine on debian
19:46<jason>I didnt find anything aurora in the repo
19:47<bobi1024>yeah the laptop will run linux according to the linlap
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19:47<bobi1024>but my concern is for the port replicator
19:47<s_i_m>jason, are on stable or testing?
19:48<jason>I thre debian on a spare rig caus we might be porting 2 servers to debian this summer.
19:48<jason>but while Im using it I dont want it to look so 1979ish so I'd like to get a decent theme installed meanwhile
19:50<s_i_m>jason, then you will have to backport that theme from squeese
19:51<bobi1024>yeah the gtk2-engines-aurora is in testing there is no such package in stable
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19:54<bobi1024>jason about the Toshiba laptops there are only good words for the Tecra series
19:54<bobi1024>that is one that I'm buying
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19:55<bobi1024>Satellite series are really poor I agree
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20:04<jason>s_i_m can I just upgrade to squeeze? If its not that different from stable then my tinkering with it shouldnt matter from my customized desktop to the stable server we'll use later.
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20:10<opticon>anyone here have any tips for using squid as web cache solution on network?
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20:49<Necrocter>TEAM PlanB
20:50<bja>Necrocter: Is that debian related?
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20:58<bja>Who killed dpkg?
20:59*bja rounds upt the usual suspects for interrogation
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21:04<edrz>it was the gimp
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21:09<bja>edrz: Definetly, it attemted on me also ;P
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21:27<edbian>What package do I need to install to use the xlib api in C ?
21:27<sney>for any api it's almost definitely a -dev package
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21:27<sney>aptitude search xlib?
21:28<edbian>sney, xlibxcb ??
21:31<edbian>I installed libxcb-xlib0-dev but a couple of my #includes still are error-ing out. Namely: #include <X11/Xlib.h> and #include <X11/Xutil.h>
21:31<edbian>I'm installing xutils-dev as well
21:32<edbian>no luck
21:33<edbian>Can anyone else help? What package do I need to install to get #include X11/Xlib.h ???
21:33<sney>if you're looking for specific files you can also use apt-file to find what packages they belong to
21:33<edbian>sney, apt-file: command not found
21:34<sney>you need to install it, it's not a standard component of apt
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21:41<edbian>sney, I can't figure this out.
21:42<sney>since there are a lot of packages that contain Xlib.h, I'll just save you the trouble of trying all of them; I'm fairly certain you need libx11-dev.
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21:46<edbian>it was libx11-dev
21:46<edbian>sney, For what it's worth I figured that out before you told me by googling
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21:46<sney>heh, ok
21:46<nixeagle>Hi, I've managed to confuse some applications where the shared libraries are. What I did was make a separate partition and put it in /data , then I moved all of /usr/lib and /usr/share to /data/usr/lib and /data/usr/share and did symlinks from where they used to be to where they are now and ran ldconfig. Stuff like okular opens, but trying to open a pdf gives me "could not find mime type".
21:47<nixeagle>I'm really confused with what I managed to break :D
21:47<sney>I'm really confused with why you did that
21:47<nixeagle>sney: I ran out of space on my root partition :<
21:47<nixeagle>the funny thing is firefox and emacs run fine
21:47<sney>okay, but symlinks?
21:48<sney>firefox is mostly self contained
21:48<sney>you should have just made another partition for /usr
21:48<nixeagle>sney: yeah from /usr/lib and /usr/share -> /data/usr/lib and /data/usr/share
21:49<sney>no I get what you did it's just borderline nuts.
21:49<nixeagle>ah ok, so I should move it back and then mount /data as /usr instead
21:50<sney>yeah, and get the rest of /usr in there as well. and make sure you preserve the permissions on the files you move.
21:50<nixeagle>oh crap, that is probably what is going on here
21:51<nixeagle>doing mv to another partition probably lost all the permission data and set it to root
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21:51<sney>it's a strong possibility
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21:52<nixeagle>sney: assuming that be the case, maybe try to tell aptitude to reinstall the lot?
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21:53<nixeagle>oh no sney permissions are preserved thankfully
21:53<nixeagle>I may recover yet :>
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21:58<Frenger>hey all, new user here. I have what is probably a very simple problem. I built a computer this afternoon and during the Debian install (from an .iso burned to a cd), specifically during the detect and mount cd rom drive step, I get the error that 'no common cd rom drive was detected'
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21:58<sney>hi frenger, is there anything weird about your hardware configuration?
22:00<Frenger>not that I'm aware of. it's a pretty standard build, all new, modern components. intel i3 cpu, gigabyte motherboard, 2x 1gb RAM
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22:02<sney>Frenger: is it a sata optical drive?
22:02<Frenger>yes, it is
22:03<sney>*shouldn't* be a problem, but since it's all so new... try the one at the top of this list
22:04<sney>that installer has a newer kernel with support for the most recent hardware
22:05<Frenger>I see, thanks. I'll try that out.
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22:06<Frenger>Just for future reference, I was considering trying a netinstall, would that have made a difference or no?
22:07<sney>not really, but the netinstall is the recommended way to do it
22:07<sney>since it installs your system from the current available packages
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22:08<sney>those custom installers are also netinstalls
22:08<Frenger>Oh, ok
22:09<Frenger>Does the normal documentation on for a netinstall apply to them as well?
22:10<sney>yep, they aren't modified much
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22:11<Frenger>cool, thanks. just waiting for the download to finish now.
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22:26<Frenger>Oh, while I'm here I had another question. I have a linksys wireless adapter that I'd like to use. I'll be doing the netinstall with an ethernet cable but should I wait until Debian is up and running before putting the card in or put it in beforehand? (I'm new to building computers as well :/ )
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22:30<adb>put all in and do the install
22:30<gsimmons>Frenger: It shouldn't matter either way. If installed (and recognised), you just may be asked to confirm which interface to use during Debian installation.
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22:31<Frenger>Ok, my concern is mainly it being recognized/having the proper drivers. I've had a pretty hard time with wireless on linux in the past
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22:33<gsimmons>Frenger: Come back to that after installation. The specific model and revision details would assist.
22:34<TCW>Frenger, why should it matter for the install if the card is recognized or not?
22:36<Frenger>I mean for afterwards. I was just wondering if it would matter one way or the other to put the card in before or after.
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22:40<TCW>Frenger, and I did ask _why_ it should matter :)
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22:44<Frenger>haha, ok. i'm going to install now. I might be back depending on how it goes ;)
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22:46<TCW>Frenger, is it a different machine or the same you are chatting on?
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22:47<Frenger>I'm installing on a new computer in the other room, now I'm on my old one
22:47<TCW>Frenger, so why getting back if you can have the joy and fun staying during install? :)
22:48<Frenger>to get a screwdriver from this room for the pesky wireless card :)
22:49<TCW>I don't get this one... but anyway ;)
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23:07<sney>bja: try dp<tab>
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23:09<bja>sney: i know someone killed it. Your have a citation for that. You are under serious investigation for that. ;P
23:09<sney>I DIDN'T DO NUFFINK
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23:10<bja>Actually calling for !moo and not having any response is a way of telling the responsable person for dpkg to take a look into it ;P
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23:11<bja>There goes the other suspect
23:13<TCW>since when was dpkg moo-able? IMHO it was always just apt-get / aptitude. So even if the bot here was moo-able, it was wrong in every meaning! ;)
23:14<bja>TCW: here on OFTC we don't have the oportunity of having apt bot. We do fine with dpkg and with judd.
23:14<bja>ravenbird: seen abrotman
23:14<ravenbird>bja: abrotman was last seen in #debian 4h 27m 30s ago: <abrotman> something congestion somehting :)
23:14<Frenger>TCW: you were right, net install is quite fun :)
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23:22<TCW>bja, no reason then having dpkg knowing the moo secrets! :)
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23:30<tuv>hd-media's kernel/initrd picks up ubuntu's iso instead of debian's. how can i force it to look for the correct iso file?
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23:31<tuv>is there a channel for debian-installer stuff?
23:31<Tom__>tuv: I think you'll just have to move it to a different directory
23:31<tuv>Tom__: it is in a different directory
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23:31<Tom__>Try gzipping it :-)
23:32<tuv>Tom__: ubuntu's? i might as well just rm its
23:33<tuv>i mean it won't be accessible
23:33<Tom__>I think you just can't do it. There is a large channel for #debian-boot, but it says it's for developers.
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23:41<nixeagle>sney: thanks for the help earlier, I moved it all back so I'm at 95% utilization on my / partition again but everything works again. I'm doing a copy to /data of all /usr and do it that way. I have no clue what I was thinking... must have been doing too much lisp programming lately :>
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23:49<Tom__>Tuv: According to the shell script it's supposed to try every ISO image it finds until it finds one (and only one) claiming to be a Debian CD
23:49<Frenger>Hey again. Installation was successful (thanks for the help) but when I boot up my monitor says Frequency out of range 90KHz/60Hz. Please change display to 60Hz at 1280x1024 or something to that effect. However I don't see how to do this without use of my monitor ...
23:50<Tom__>Frenger: Can you see the GRUB bootloader screen?
23:50<Frenger>yeah, it happens after that
23:50<Tom__>Frenger: Can you see a bunch of text messages go by before X starts?
23:51<Tom__>Frenger: Okay, start in single user mode and reconfigure X to work with your screen
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23:51<TCW>Frenger, CRT or TFT, VGA or DVI, what graphic chip?
23:51<Frenger>alright, I didn't know what single user mode was when presented with that option. Is it like failsafe mode on other distros?
23:52<Tom__>Yes, it's like failsafe mode on other distros :-)
23:52<Tom__>You'll just get a root prompt with only the basiscs loaded, then when you exit it'll try to continue to start normally
23:53<Frenger>it's an LCD monitor, VGA port, integrated graphics
23:53<Frenger>Im going to give it a shot Tom.
23:53<Tom__>er, wait
23:54<TCW>Frenger, integrated graphics is not precise enough. When in singleuser mode run lspci|grep -i vga and see
23:54<Tom__>What command does he run to reconfigure X? dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg ?
23:55<TCW>imho ther is no apt* / dpkg* way anymore to reconfigure X
23:57<Tom__>okay then
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23:59<TCW>not "okay", but the "all is automatic and never wrong" way of modern X
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