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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-07-31

---Logopened Sat Jul 31 00:00:25 2010
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00:02<r0ger>anyone know if gparted can clone a disk or if i have to get something like ghost to do it?
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00:15<chris_>halp i not cheeseburgerrrrrrrrrrrrr
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00:38<tux>Hey people How do I shut down X and keep it down??? /etc/init.d/gdm stop is not working
00:40<tux>anyone??? how to shut down X???
00:41<simonrvn>quit your session first
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00:42<tux>logging out gives me an x based login?
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00:43<simonrvn>"log out"
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01:02<tux>Hmm... getting worse... this installer is now complaining that the compiler (gcc) is a different version from the one used to build the system. HOW do I find out the "name" of the current compiler??? so that I can set it as a "CC" environmental variable?
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01:05<Lantizia>hey ive noticed debby puts mysql logging to syslog - anyone knwo how i can increase the log level?
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01:14<simonrvn>only for certain things
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01:27<digitalzombie>Hi, I've just updated php 5.3 and I'm getting this warning: help?
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01:30<reisio>that's a strange path
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01:30<reisio>digitalzombie: dpkg -L php-apc ?
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01:31<digitalzombie>hehe i just checked the package
01:31<digitalzombie>it's a broken depency
01:31<digitalzombie>i'm googling how to fix it ^^
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01:32<phorce1_home>is there a way to get debmirror to ignore locking status? My mirror directories are on a removable ntfs drive.
01:32<digitalzombie>this is what i got tho:
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01:33<reisio>digitalzombie: doesn't look like as many files as a package should have
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01:36<digitalzombie>so i have to purge it?
01:36<digitalzombie>and reinstall?
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01:38<digitalzombie>ah i can do apt-get --reinstall install php-apc
01:38<digitalzombie>thx u
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01:45<nteon>any reason my mit-scheme in sid is i386 only?
01:45<nteon>or, rather, where would I find that informatino
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01:49<devil>nteon: changelog says: * debian/mit-scheme-native.1: renamed to debian/mit-scheme-i386.1.
01:49<gsimmons>nteon: See Debian bug #365530.
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01:54<nteon>devil, gsimmons: thanks, that clears things up.
01:55<digitalzombie>reisio thx again, to fix it I just have to do a apt-get upgrade
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01:58<reisio>digitalzombie: worth doing regularly anyways
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02:00<digitalzombie>reisio: oops i spoke too soon. haha i found the real solution,, tho thx again
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02:01<reisio>how convoluted
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05:05<keyser>hello all
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05:06<P3t3r>hey keyser
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05:07<keyser>hello P3t3r
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05:11<keyser>it is nice they allow the use of Tor on this server
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05:19<Blizakster>how do I delete an entire directory and its contents ?
05:20<icebrain>Blizakster: rm -rf dir ? But be careful
05:20<Blizakster>be careful ?
05:20<icebrain>if you type "dir /" instead of "dir/" under root...
05:20<icebrain>there goes /
05:21<devil>anyone an idea how dpkg will list only apps from a certain repository? apt-query?
05:21<Blizakster>look at this then lol
05:21<Blizakster>I am in ~/urbanterror/ircbot$ I need to delete ~/urbanterror/ircbot/ directory
05:21<Blizakster>could I just type rm -rf ?
05:21<icebrain>yeah, that should be fine
05:22<Blizakster>This is kind of php / debian related
05:22<devil>or will dpkg -l | grep foo work? i cant quite figure it out
05:22<Blizakster>I am trying to set up a php bot and having issues with it in debian
05:22<Blizakster>more like I just dont understand the damn bot
05:23*Blizakster Likes hand holding some times
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05:23<icebrain>what's the problem? Not that I'm an expert in php bots :)
05:24<Blizakster>Not really sure yet
05:24<Blizakster>problem number 1
05:24<Blizakster>I cant make it run
05:24<icebrain>what happens?
05:24<Blizakster>How do I
05:25<Blizakster>wget and entire directory ?
05:25<Blizakster>and all its contents
05:25<Blizakster>I did wget -m but it downloaded like the wrong stuff ? lol
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05:26<icebrain>-m is for ftp dirs, iirc
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05:26<Blizakster>I am downloading from a http directory
05:26<Blizakster>I need to download
05:27<Blizakster>the whole directory
05:27<Blizakster>doing everything from SSH hurts my brain :/
05:28<icebrain>I think you need -r (recursive)
05:29<Blizakster>Seems to have worked :P
05:29<Blizakster>kind of >.>
05:30<Blizakster>I did wget -r it gave me a directory with phergie directory inside it
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05:33<devil>no idea on how to list packages just from one repo?
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05:39<felixs>devil: apt-cache policy <package> tells you something about which package (from where...) is installed
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05:39<devil>felixs: yes, but what i need is all packages from a certain repo
05:39<felixs>devil: all? thats easy. zless the Packages.gz file
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05:40<devil>felixs: uh, didnt think of that at all :) was only looking at dpkg
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05:57<Blizakster>lmao noob question here
05:57<Blizakster>how do I rename a file ?
05:57<Blizakster>rename dswpbot.cfg.examle dswpbot.cfg is not working
05:57<Blizakster>mv ?
05:58<Blizakster>doesnt that move a file ?
05:58<Singo>renames it also
05:58<Blizakster>oh ok
05:59<Blizakster>theres a line in this cfg
05:59<Blizakster>7 db=tdmdb
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05:59<Blizakster>does that mean I have ot make a database for it ?
05:59<ansgar>Blizakster: I suggest reading the documentation?
05:59<Blizakster>doesnt come with any lol :P
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06:00<ansgar>Blizakster: Then ask whoever wrote it. Or replace it with something that has documentation.
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06:00<Blizakster>okay lol
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07:13<Blizakster>How do I copy a file from one dir to another ?
07:14<Singo>cp /home/test/file.txt /where/you/want/it.txt
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07:30<Guest434>hi singo
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07:35<cinch>is aptitude installed by default in lenny?
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07:35<cinch>or is it still apt-get
07:36<cinch>(with the minimum debootstrap)
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07:47<cthuluh>cinch: --variant=minbase doesn't give you aptitude
07:48<cinch>cthuluh: thanks for the info :)
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07:51<D3JAVU>hi all
07:52<D3JAVU>who can help me please
07:52<abrotman>ask an actual question and find out
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07:54<D3JAVU>when i tipe apt-get inst.. and press tab the comand install not shown whay ???
07:54<abrotman>in which version of debian?
07:54<D3JAVU>i just install it now
07:55<cthuluh>because you don't have bash-completion, or you did not source /etc/bash_completion
07:55<D3JAVU>and what can i do for that ??
07:55<cthuluh>if you have the package installed, just type ''. /etc/bash_completion''
07:56<D3JAVU>I install debian 1 time . i use Ubuntu before and dont have any problem
07:58<cthuluh>why did you change, if you had no problems?
07:58<abrotman>that's because ubuntu dpes all that setup for you .. Debian isn't like that
07:58<D3JAVU>sorry i dont understand
07:58<cinch>D3JAVU: debian tries to keep things simple. :P
07:58<D3JAVU>now whot can i do ?
07:59<Arrowmaster>you type aptitude install bash-completion
07:59<cthuluh>well, your user _has_ access to bash comlpletion
07:59<cthuluh>not root
07:59<D3JAVU>ok ok just second
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08:01<Baerlauch>Hello, I moved a Debian system from one hard disk to another and now the permissions of some system folders/files are wrong. Can anybody tell me, which permissions /etc, /bin, and so on should have or where to find that information?
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08:02<D3JAVU>sorry when i tipe bash-completion was succssesful instali
08:03<D3JAVU>maybe at first i mast remove this ?
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08:05<cthuluh>no, D3JAVU
08:05<cahoot>Baerlauch: restoring messed up perms is more work then a reinstall
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08:06<cthuluh>D3JAVU: add ''[[ -f /etc/bash_completion ]] && . /etc/bash_completion'' in your root's .bashrc
08:06<D3JAVU>remove the autocomplite but now when i tipe apt-get ins and press tab its show me install . but in su not shown what its like that
08:07<Baerlauch>cahoot: Not in my case, since reinstalling means to struggle with some very annoying driver problems again
08:07<cahoot>Baerlauch: got the original still?
08:08<Baerlauch>cahoot: yes
08:08<cahoot>Baerlauch: how did you cp?
08:09<cahoot>rsync or cp -a?
08:09<cahoot>Baerlauch: IIRC cp -a keeps perms et al
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08:10<Baerlauch>cahoot: cp -r on all folders except proc and dev
08:10<cahoot>as does rsync
08:11<Arrowmaster>you dont want to copy sys either
08:12<Baerlauch>Arrowmaster: sys was empty iirc
08:13<Baerlauch>Anyway, I see, what I forgot
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08:18<Baerlauch>Nontheless: Is there a list of basic permissions somewhere? Recopying would still be very annoying.
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08:23<icebrain>if you rsync with -p, doesn't it update the permission without copying the files?
08:23<icebrain>(because they're already there)
08:24<D3JAVU>ppl . when i press tab button in simple user mod its show me command but when i press tub in super user mod it did not show any think
08:25<Baerlauch>icebrain: Thanks, I will look at that in a moment
08:26<icebrain>Baerlauch: I'm not sure if it does, probably best to try first with a small dir
08:28<Baerlauch>icebrain: Don't worry, by "looking at" I meant rsync's documentation concerning this
08:29<D3JAVU>peple please say something
08:29<icebrain>D3JAVU: did you do what cthuluh said?
08:30<icebrain>D3JAVU: have you inserted that line in the file /root/.bashrc ?
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08:41<manzhack>hi all
08:41<manzhack>I've a big issue
08:41<manzhack>anyone can help me?
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08:41<abrotman>are you going to ask your actual question?
08:42<manzhack>It's a problem with rsync
08:42<manzhack>I've a server
08:42<manzhack>that is a fileserver, that makes backups on an extractable HD
08:42<manzhack>when I do a rsync
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08:43<manzhack>it takes 100% of the CPU
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08:43<abrotman>manzhack: it tends to do that
08:43<manzhack>and the task takes over 6 hours to finish
08:43<manzhack>yes ok
08:43<manzhack>It's no a problem, the CPU load
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08:44<manzhack>but the problem is that the backup starts @ 2h00
08:44<abrotman>how much data is it?
08:44<manzhack>and hasn't finished @ 9 o clock, when the enterprise is opening
08:44<abrotman>what is the rsync command ?
08:44<manzhack>so samba client are VERY slow because of the CPU load
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08:45<manzhack>rsync -r -t /mnt/data /mnt/bck
08:45<ottoshmidt>hello is it possible to mount second hard drive as a normal user
08:45<abrotman>it can be, yes
08:45<ottoshmidt>so that it was read/write
08:45<abrotman>manzhack: have you checked for errors in the syslog?
08:45<cthuluh>manzhack: use nice to decrease rsync's priority
08:46<abrotman>that doesn't really solve it .. it shouldn't take that long to rsync 80Gb unless it's all changing every time
08:46<manzhack>I was looking for it, but I didn't find any log for rsync and/or cron
08:46<manzhack>juste 200Mo are changing per day
08:46<manzhack>not the totality of the data
08:46<cthuluh>manzhack: are you using usb 1.1? :P
08:46<abrotman>i meant like maybe drive errors in syslog or messages
08:46<ottoshmidt>I have been googling for an hour but couldn't find a solution, the drive is mounted read-only even if I put rw in fstab
08:47<abrotman>ottoshmidt: ls -ld on the mount point
08:47<ottoshmidt>any clues?
08:47<ottoshmidt>abrotman, should drive be mounted?
08:47<manzhack>it's a IDE drive that you can extract
08:47<abrotman>doesn't have to be
08:48<manzhack>so I don't know how to backup very fast
08:48<ottoshmidt>abrotman, drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 31 14:46 .
08:48<manzhack>there is less than 300 files modified per days, compared to the 80k files that are present on the HD
08:48<ottoshmidt>it's in /media
08:49<abrotman>manzhack: it shouldn't take that long .. i rsync about that much with thousands of files changed per day, and it takes maybe 15 minutes
08:49<abrotman>and the system isn't that fast to begin with
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08:50<ottoshmidt>abrotman, if you mean i should do chmod 777 on that folder I already tried and subfolders stay read-only anyway
08:50<manzhack>the server is a P4 2.4 Ghz with 512 Mb of RAM
08:51<abrotman>ottoshmidt: what filesystem is the usb hdd ?
08:51<abrotman>manzhack: are you using swap when it compares ?
08:51<manzhack>with swap, what do you mean exactly?
08:51<ottoshmidt>abrotman, it's not usb hdd and it's ext4
08:51<abrotman>!am i swapping
08:51<dpkg>run "vmstat 3" and ignore the first 3 lines, if the "so" column is not 0s all the time you are swapping
08:52<abrotman>ottoshmidt: what is your kernel, uname -r
08:52<ottoshmidt>i run ext3 on current inst
08:52<ottoshmidt>it's 2.6.32-5-686
08:52<manzhack>abrotman: There is only 80Mb of ram used when I rsync
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08:53<abrotman>ottoshmidt: mount it, and then cat /proc/mounts
08:53<abrotman>erm ...
08:53<abrotman>type 'mount'
08:54<manzhack>So abrotman, what I should to do?
08:54<abrotman>manzhack: did you look for hte errors in the syslog/messages ?
08:55<manzhack>I will try to find that
08:55<abrotman>manzhack: they're in /var/log/
08:55<manzhack>logs are in var/log, right?
08:55<manzhack>I come back in few minutes
08:56<abrotman>ottoshmidt: i don't see anything there, does the error just say "permission denied" ?
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08:57<ottoshmidt>when i access with normal user
08:57<ottoshmidt>"You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "902b7da6-178a-436d-80b9-9fa6d412cf55"."
08:58<abrotman>ls -al /media/
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09:00<ottoshmidt>drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jul 31 16:59 .
09:00<ottoshmidt>drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Jul 31 14:21 ..
09:00<ottoshmidt>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 31 14:46 40GB
09:00<ottoshmidt>drwx------ 4 root root 4096 Jul 25 17:18 902b7da6-178a-436d-80b9-9fa6d412cf55
09:00<ottoshmidt>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jul 29 22:34 cdrom -> cdrom0
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09:00<ottoshmidt>what's the max lines to paste here?
09:01<Baerlauch>rsync could not do, what I was looking for, but icebrain's idea lead to the following promising link: However when I run the script, it complains: "stat: can't read file system information for "%N:%Mp%Lp": file or folder not found".
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09:04<abrotman>ottoshmidt: you don't have perms .. it is rwx only for root
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09:04<ottoshmidt>and how do i mount with permissions?
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09:07<ottoshmidt>I try to put user id in fstab but kern gives error: "Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000""
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09:12<manzhack>abrotman, I found nothing in /var/log/dmesg
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09:13<abrotman>i didn't say dmesg at all
09:14<manzhack>which on so? ^^
09:14<abrotman>i said syslog and messages
09:14<manzhack>ok sorry
09:15<manzhack>Jul 30 02:53:23 Serveur-Agence kernel: [62643.432757] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
09:15<manzhack>Jul 30 02:53:23 Serveur-Agence kernel: [62643.432757] hdb: status error: status=0x00 { }
09:15<manzhack>bad thing no?
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09:16<abrotman>that's bad
09:17<manzhack>why? what's that?
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09:20<abrotman>manzhack: usually indicates some part of that is dying
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09:21<manzhack>Ok, so I have to change the HD?
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09:23<abrotman>or something else is dying
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09:27<manzhack>abrotman: do you know if it's possible to don't checksum the file to synchronize, but just looking the date?
09:28<abrotman>manzhack: that won't help it go faster
09:28<manzhack>really? Because checksum need a lot of CPU, right?
09:31<manzhack>abrotman: Maybe I could use the cp command, no?
09:32<abrotman>the problem isn't your command, it's the hardware
09:33<manzhack>ok.... So I'll try to find a solution... Thank you very much
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09:44<icebrain>ops, sorry
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10:29<Ludwig>how are u
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10:31<edbian>I'm good, do you need help with Debian??
10:31<Ludwig>is here any russian speaking helper?
10:32<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ or use English here.
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10:34<Ludwig>and do u have armenian support
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10:48<LydiaDeetz>Fresh debian 5.0.5 install
10:48<LydiaDeetz>I just need smoeone to give me a good lists of repositories for APT
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10:50<LydiaDeetz>I need a few source lists
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10:53<LydiaDeetz>Just the basic ones.A
10:53<LydiaDeetz>Also, I need contrib and nonfree ones :/
10:53<LydiaDeetz>I know, it's simple. I've done it before around a year ago
10:54<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc> lenny main" and "deb lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
10:54<devil>contrib and non-free are just added to the line you have
10:54<LydiaDeetz>Ah, right
10:54<LydiaDeetz>Thanks a bunch!
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11:29<Tniffoc>Why would I be getting "invalid mount option" errors when attempting to mount an secondary internal NTFS drive via the GNOME gui?
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11:37<Tniffoc>come on...
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11:39<dpkg>hmm... ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance, packaged for Debian. Usage examples: . Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>.
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11:39<moldovean>Tniffoc, /msg dpkg user accessible ntfs
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11:41<Tniffoc>moldovean, thanks
11:43<Tniffoc>is there a way to provide a mirror to apt-get at runtime?
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11:46<moldovean>put your mirrors in sources.list
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11:48<Tniffoc>moldovean, The thing is, I don't want this mirror to checked for anything but when I want it to. i.e. apt-get without a provided mirror will use sources.list and apt-get with some mirror option will check that mirror.
11:49<Tniffoc>Something to the effect of "apt-get install --mirror somepackage
11:50<moldovean>Tniffoc, /msg dpkg why aptitude
11:51<moldovean>Tniffoc, use -t , as aptitude -t lenny-backports blablah , lenny-backports needs to be in sources.list
11:53<moldovean>Tniffoc, /msg dpkg lenny-backports
11:55<moldovean>-t is targeted mirror used by aptitude for installing <packagename>
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13:08<Dodger>I have a java program that I wrote that spawns multiple processes. I'm looking to create a /etc/init.d script to start / restart it. What would be the best way to automatically kill all processes associated with this program?
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13:10<abrotman>there is a killall
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13:11<Dodger>and would I just do killall on java? That would also wipe out any other java processes that are running...
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13:13<Dodger>it's an old machine that's only running this, so I guess that would work... seems like a pretty rough solution ("kill them all and let the kernel sort them out...")
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13:13<icebrain>Dodger: using ps -o ppid you can get the processes' parent PID
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13:13<icebrain>so log the original pid, and then kill all the child processes
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13:14<abrotman>if they're started from init, won't the PPID be init?
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13:14<Dodger>icebrain: yes, that's more the sort of thing that smells like the right solution. Would you by any chance have a pointer to an example of doing something like that?
13:14<icebrain>abrotman: he said there was one java process that spawned many others
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13:15<icebrain>Dodger: sorry, no
13:15<icebrain>I just search "find process children pids"
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13:15<abrotman>you can pass them to pskill
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13:16<Dodger>thanks both of you, that looks like exactly what I wanted!
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13:16<icebrain>be careful killin' stuff :P
13:16<Dodger>:-) always good advice!
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13:28<esa_morenita>no t konozko pero weno
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13:28<alfrecasa># ubuntu-it-chat
13:29<alfrecasa>ragazzi come faccio ad andare nella chat di ubuntu?
13:29<dondelelcaro>alfrecasa: /server; then /join #ubuntu-it
13:30<alfrecasa>grazie provo
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14:02<Mortvert>Hi :3
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14:08<Mortvert>I've recently installed inspircd - and now i'm searching for irc services - what ones do you reccomend?
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15:10<mantra>hello can somebody help me with gnupg, when I try to encrypt, it creates a .gpg file that is a few bytes, and a file called 'p' that contains the data
15:11<mantra>I cant decrypt the p file, and decrypting the .gpg file gives me the .tar that I encrypted, but I cant untar it
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15:14<bechampy>hi there, i am trying to get gnash to work but i get no sound. I have oss4 installed. When using oss4 from the repo, gnash, flash32 and flash64 have no sound. When using the oss4 deb from the opensound website, i have sound with flash64 but not with flash32 or gnash. Anybody got an idea how to solve this?
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15:23<youknowwho>maybe use alsa? I've just installed debian squeeze and gnash works perfectly
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15:36<Blizakster>how do I view the permisions of a file ?
15:36<muep>Blizakster: ls -l path/to/file
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15:39<Blizakster>how do I change the permissions of a file ?
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15:39<Blizakster>so if I wanted it to be -rwxr-xr-x how would I do that ?
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15:40<weasel>I'm sure there's pleny of documentation.
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16:05<youknowwho>if I enable the html5 beta on youtube, videos still play in gnash, so how can I enable h.264 and webm suppport?
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18:31<edbian>Does debian have a keyring manager??
18:32<dondelelcaro>edbian: there are a few of them
18:32<richardk>gnome-keyring ?
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18:32<edbian>richardk, Thanks
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18:32<edbian>dondelelcaro, you too :)
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18:33<weasel>dondelelcaro: there are two. noodles and gwolf? :)
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18:55<NickyP>is the jigdo web site broken?
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18:56<maxineno>ola angel
18:57<maxineno>hay alguien
18:58<maxineno>no hay nadieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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19:09<blockowitsch>hello. is it possible to instruct debian to use tcp instead of udp for all dns queries?
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19:16<cthuluh>blockowitsch: why would you want that? 8)
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19:19<blockowitsch>for debugging purposes...i'm working on a tun device driver that redirects everything to a socks server...and socks4 can only handle tcp connections and no udp packets
19:20<blockowitsch>now my tun driver is able to redirect dns-udp requests to dns-tcp request...but something is not working correctly, so i would like to test it this way
19:20<cthuluh>see man 3 resolver
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19:21<cthuluh>you could also use a simple tool like dig or host
19:22<blockowitsch>using dns-tcp queries in C is no problem for me...
19:22<blockowitsch>the problem is that normal applications still perform udp queries
19:26<blockowitsch>lol...ok...just forget about it...i don't need it anymore...i had a line in my code for debugging that allowed only one dns query at once...
19:26<blockowitsch>but thanks anyway :D
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20:22<Blizakster>How do I run a php script and it sitll run when I close terminal ?
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20:22<cthuluh>you probably want nohup(1)
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20:23<Blizakster>huh ?
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20:24<icebrain>Blizakster: man nohup
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20:24<icebrain>or just use screen
20:24<Blizakster>I would prefure that
20:24<Blizakster>I just dont know how
20:24<jordanm>Blizakster: the (1) is to indicate that it is a user command. see man man for all of them
20:24<Blizakster>screen phergie.php ?
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20:25<jordanm>man 1 man specifically
20:25<icebrain>Blizakster: screen php phergie.php
20:25<Blizakster>oh okay
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20:26<icebrain>then ctrl+a,d to detach and screen -r to reattach
20:27<jordanm>-rd is often desirable, just in case you left your screen open elsewhere
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21:12<steve_>hi- is anyone here a computer scientist?
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21:48<pflanze>Hello. Youtube has changed the format of their video files somehow lately, now mplayer says "[flv @ 0x7f77fb4dd5e0]Unsupported video codec (7)"
21:48<pflanze>Has anyone found a solution? (^ that's mplayer from stable)
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22:04<jordanm>pflanze: usually flash player plays flv, not mplayer
22:04<pflanze>These are files fetched through youtube-dl, they are flash video not flash movie files.
22:05<pflanze>And till recently, mplayer was always able to play those. So youtube has changed their format.
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22:09<pflanze>Actually, in the meantime I've tested mplayer from unstable, and it works, too.
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22:09<pflanze>I mean: unlike the stable mplayer, it still works even for the new files.
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23:03<xjjk>pflanze: seems like you found a solution… but the problem/"bug" per-se is YouTube/
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23:04<xjjk>possible is to backport a patch to the stable version of mplayer, submit a bug and attach your patch
23:04<xjjk>possible better solution*
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23:07<pflanze>Hum, I doubt whether that warrants as an important enough "bug" to be released for stable?
23:07<pflanze>Exactly since it's not even a bug of mplayer.
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23:08<xjjk>yeh, I wouldn't bother doing anything
23:08<dondelelcaro>pflanze: you're better off using a backport, actually; or requesting one if one hasn't been made
23:09<xjjk>but the best thing to do is write a patch
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23:09<xjjk>dondelelcaro: I think mplayer is unlikely to get backported, a lot of things rely on it
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23:09<pflanze>xjjk: you're weird
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23:09<xjjk>pflanze: you're welcome? what was your question again if you already had an answer?
23:09<pflanze>I mean, best thing is to write a patch that nobody uses?
23:10<xjjk>pflanze: you write the patch
23:10<xjjk>debian maintainer applies to stable mplayer
23:10<xjjk>and it filters down to stable as an update
23:10<xjjk>pflanze: again, what are you asking?
23:10<dondelelcaro>xjjk: huh?
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23:10<pflanze>I said, " I doubt whether that warrants as an important enough "bug" to be released for stable?"
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23:10<pflanze>What I was asking is whether someone already knows a solution.
23:11<pflanze>I'm "happy enough" to know that the sid version works.
23:11<xjjk>you just said using a newer mplayer was a solution? were you looking for another one?
23:11<pflanze>I'm running sid in a chroot.
23:11<dondelelcaro>pflanze: yeah, you can either run it in a chroot, or backport the testing version (or ask for someone to backport it)
23:11<pflanze>You may say that I was too lazy not to just try sid before asking here :). But then I thought it was one of the proprietary formats for which it's going to be a hassle to install,
23:11<pflanze>so I figured asking was a good idea.
23:12<xjjk>this has gotten a bit pointless quick
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23:13<xjjk>but if you hypothetically care (I don't, and you don't), file a bug
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23:16<pflanze>Yeah, I don't care enough to do anything except when I knew a good solution and it would be useful for others if *I* did it.
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23:16<xjjk>thanks, I guess
23:16<Iridos>hey guys... what does one do with a wireless WEP "password", instead of the usual hex key? Can't find where the wireless stuff in interfaces is documented anymore either
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23:17<jpinx-eeepc>Iridos: !
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23:18<Iridos>can I just enter that WEP "password" like the usual hex key after wireless_key?
23:19<Iridos>it's got all kinds of quotes and weird characters in it, though
23:19<Iridos>guess doesn't hurt to try...
23:19<pflanze>check man iwconfig
23:20<jpinx-eeepc>if there's odd characters you might have to escape them
23:20<Iridos>no, it should be in "man interfaces", I thought, but the wireless stuff is separate
23:20<pflanze>there's this s:... thingie. I never quite got to the point of understanding when to apply which, and then WPA got common.
23:20<pflanze>Iridos: man iwconfig explains what the format of the key is.
23:21<pflanze>since, afaik, ifup will just feed wireless_key to iwconfig as -key
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23:24<Iridos>hm, "passphrase is currently not supported" and I can use s:<key> or the hex equivalent
23:24<Iridos>guess I try hex
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23:31<Iridos>hm, no
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23:31<Iridos>but thanks, I'm closer now
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23:33<Iridos>and it's really just the hex equivalent
23:33<Iridos>but it doesn't associate...
23:34<Iridos>perhaps there's a mac restriction he didn't tell me about
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23:44<Iridos>ha! had to give the channel!
23:44<Iridos>there we go
23:44<Iridos>pflanze: thanks, had forgotten all that wireless stuff
23:46<Iridos>or where to read on it
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23:52<jdstroy>I'm here to report a "bug" in Debian Live at
23:52<jdstroy>Am I at the right place?
23:54<jdstroy>Nope, looks like not. Found a better contact for this.
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