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---Logopened Fri Oct 15 00:00:50 2010
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00:03<k-man_>well, networking is working now but i still get an error
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00:05<k-man_>oh, got it working now
00:06<k-man_>thanks for your support :)
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00:18<k-man_>what can i use for ripping a dvd that will somehow work out a useful name for the files?
00:18<k-man_>and create a file that contains the subtitles?
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01:28<r0ger>is setting net.ipv6.bindv6only=0 enough to make java listen on both ipv4 and ipv6?
01:29<r0ger>i'm having issues with java only listening on v6 on the port instead of v4 as well
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01:47<jordanm>!ipv6 squeeze
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01:57<jm_>!java ipv6
01:57<dpkg>net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 was set in netbase 4.38, no longer set by default since netbase 4.42 (BTS #560238). net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 breaks networking in Java for sun-java6-jdk (BTS #560044). For older Squeeze installations, use "sed -i 's/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 1/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0/' /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf ; invoke-rc.d procps restart" to revert.
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02:19<k-man_>how do you select a window manager in debian?
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02:24<jordanm>k-man_: per user or system-wide?
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02:25<k-man_>jordanm: per user
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02:26<jordanm>k-man_: exec <window or session manager> in ~/.xinitrc
02:27<k-man_>thanks jordanm
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02:37<k-man_>how can i prevent gdm from starting?
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02:38<jordanm>k-man_: what version of debian?
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02:40<jordanm>k-man_: update-rc.d -f remove gdm; update-rc.d gdm stop 20 2 3 4 5 .
02:40<k-man_>i think its gdm3
02:40<jordanm>the init script is "gdm"
02:40<k-man_>ah, ok
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02:41<k-man_>jordanm: i think its gdm3
02:41<k-man_>in the rc directories that is
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02:42<jordanm>k-man_: its not, I checked
02:42<diego>I have some really ugly question ... what are some bad things that might happen if I drop all RST on packets with iptables
02:42<diego>iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 --tcp-flags RST RST -j DROP
02:42<diego>from the dest. port 80
02:43<diego>(I have my reasons to do it)
02:43<k-man_>jordanm: i checked too - and it is, but it seems i am using dependancy based boot sequence
02:43<diego>I just want to know what bad consequences it might have
02:43<jordanm>all http connections stay open?
02:43<k-man_>this is squeeze installed as of today btw
02:43<jordanm>k-man_: thats fine
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02:46<k-man_>jordanm: fyi, this seems to have done the trick: update-rc.d gdm3 disable
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02:47<jordanm>,file /etc/init.d/gdm3 --release squeeze
02:47<judd>/etc/init.d/gdm3 in squeeze/i386: gdm3: etc/init.d/gdm3
02:47<jm_>next upgrade will reinstate the symlinks
02:47<jm_>or is disable some new magic that does the right thing?
02:48<k-man_>jm_: i have a feeling it is "new magic"
02:48<k-man_>anyway, have to go, thanks for your help
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02:55<diego>jordanm: do you really think all http connections will stay open
02:55<diego>jordanm: I mean, there is a timeout after all
02:56<diego>it will end sooner or later ... how many can really stay open for long
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02:57<anake_mboke>hi all
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03:06<iman>i have this permission in a directory "drwxr-xr-x", how can i change it to "drwxr-wxr-x" in all sub directory ?
03:06<gdb>Do you mean mode 775? (You seem to have an extraneous - in there)
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03:07<jordanm>!tell iman about cross-post
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03:47<plm>hi, can someone answer a few questions about ext4 in debian?
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03:47<plm>i'm running lenny that's been soft-graded to squeeze right after installation, with a .26 kernel
03:48<plm>i think ext4 entered stable in .28 or so, but i can't upgrade the kernel because vmware-tools doesn't like it
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03:49<plm>so, the question really is, does the fs "ext4dev" on lenny/.26 equal the stable version on testing/.28?
03:49<plm>i'm about to place some pretty critical data on the fs and having "dev" in the fs name doesn't fill me with confidence :)
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04:03<mjt>plm: you've not a ext4 question but vmware question
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04:03<mjt>plm: instead of trying some old kernel with development filesystem, find out why vmware dislikes squeeze kernel.
04:04<mjt>2.6.32 (as in squeeze) is used by many other distros
04:04<mjt>so vmware have to support it
04:04<daenney>I woudn't use ext4 with an older kernel where support was still half baked, especially not if it's critical data
04:07<mjt>ext4 in 2.6.26 is definitely not of production quality
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04:07<mjt>there were lots of patches backported to 2.6.27, but even that isn't quite good.
04:07<mjt>note that there were tons of bugfixes after it "entered stable" too
04:07<plm>a more recent version of vmware most likely does support the latest kernel out of the box, but i'm not in a position to upgrade the host environment's vsphere
04:08<mjt>so you're on your own with that old kernel.
04:08<plm>compiling a new kernel and then vmware-tools myself might work but i'm probably not going into that
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04:10<mjt>btw, udev from squeeze may not work with kernel from lenny
04:11<plm>haven't faced problems so far
04:11<plm>we're talking 6 systems
04:12<plm>but about ext4 then, looks like i'll have to ditch it for ext3
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04:15<locklace>plm: you want a minimum of 2.6.30 before using ext4 for anything real
04:16<plm>yeah, ok
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05:40<whirl>Does anyone if the future debians would ship with libreoffice instead of openoffice?
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05:41<icebrain>whirl: I don't think it has been decided yet (at least publicly) ?
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05:42<berto>"For now, major distributions such as Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, and SUSE will ship LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice"
05:43<shiznatix>Hi. I am trying to setup postfix and dovecot but am running into some problems. I have been following this tutorial: and now can connect to the imap server but I cant receive mail that I send there and when I try to send mail from postfix, I get "unknown error" from thunderbird. Is there a better tutorial somewhere or something?
05:44<icebrain>whirl: oh, found this
05:44<jm_>someone bloged about it on debian planet
05:45<whirl>thanks again
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05:47<whirl>just about to install that beta2 a bit worried about how the languages are going to work.
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05:59<RickyTTT>!seen ccfontes
05:59<dpkg>i haven't seen 'ccfontes', RickyTTT
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06:32<multithreatening>hi, I need help with hardware rendering with OpenGL
06:33<multithreatening>glxgears -info gives me
06:33<multithreatening>RENDERER: Software Rasterizer
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06:33<multithreatening>I guess I don't have hardware acceleration?
06:34<multithreatening>And I notice that my sid system doesn't have xorg.conf anymore
06:34<multithreatening>how do I set the parameters of the radeon driver?
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06:35<multithreatening>and should I change those parameters at all?
06:35<mjt>which parameters do you have in mind?
06:35<multithreatening>RenderAccel AGPFastWrite or whatever
06:36<multithreatening>you see, I'm not really into this
06:36<dpkg>From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken) or by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Squeeze, input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg config lenny> <xorg config squeeze>.
06:36<mjt>i haven't needed any radeon parameter for about 2 years
06:37<multithreatening>But did you play for example, OpenArena?
06:37<mjt>some support for 3d is here
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06:37<locklace>you shouldn't have to configure anything
06:38<locklace>if it doesn't work automatically, your card is probably just not supported yet
06:38<mjt>AGPFastWrite? i guess that card is supported ;)
06:38<multithreatening>is the R250 the same as R200 by the way?
06:39<mjt>(for the record... we don't have any computer with an AGP video card. Several with PCI, and several with PCIe, we skipped AGP entirely :)
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06:40<multithreatening>mjt: AGP has been used for centuries...
06:40<mjt>note that nowadays it's all kms
06:41<locklace>yeah, but you're talking 3d accel support
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06:44<mjt>speaking of all this video/3d stuff -- what is gallium? I mean, I've seen the wikipedia article, I've seen lots of activity in that area, but which Xorg has thre support? Is squeeze's sufficient?
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06:46<mjt>it isn't even obvious if it's in kernel, x or mesa :)
06:47<jm_>should be in mesa
06:47<jm_> mentions it
06:47<multithreatening>OK, I got a FireGL 9000 (RV250), but GL only gives me Software Rasterizer...
06:47<multithreatening>How do I get my acceleration to work?
06:48<mjt>do you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon and libgl1-mesa-dri installed?
06:48<locklace>and this page for nouveau says xorg 1.7 is enough,
06:48<multithreatening>mjt: yes
06:49<mjt>OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RS780 9610) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL DRI2
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06:49<mjt>but that's not R200
06:49<multithreatening>R200 should even more be supported by now :)
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06:58<mjt>"AFAIK, no work has started on the r600 gallium driver. It's only the r300g driver that's usable, and I believe it covers archs up to r500."
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06:58<mjt>(but that's in jan-2010)
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07:18<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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07:20<mattcen>Hi all, are there any 'aptitude' guru's awake? I'm having this crazy problem with a fresh Squeeze install, where I run the following command to markauto all installed packages that are a dependency of another installed package, and unmarkauto all remaining installed packages. This *shouldn't* remove anything: aptitude --schedule-only markauto ~E '~i!~M(~Rdepends:~i|~Rrecommends:~i)'.
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07:21<mattcen>Sorry, I missed the other part of the command: aptitude --schedule-only keep ~aremove && aptitude install
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07:22<mattcen>The behaviour I see though, is this:
07:24<mattcen>If I then go and do an 'aptitude install <list_of_packages_to_be_removed>' (i.e manually specify each package as opposed to use the ~aremove filter), it does what I'd expect.
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08:32<mercutio22>some guy on the brazilian channel claims kde is broken in squeeze. He can't log in. Is that so?
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08:37<jespada>hmm I don't think so..I was using it in testing (aka squeeze)...
08:37<mercutio22>jespada: was?
08:38<jespada>yup..i'm still have it in a VM..let me check
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08:39<jespada>what do you mean with broken?
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08:44<jespada>Guys have any of are using systemd in debian?
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09:00<jm_>there are some bugs for systemd in BTS so some people are obviously using it
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09:22<antivirtel> hello all, what can I do, when I cant install LILO during the setup? this process is failed :| I use LVM on a hardware configured RAID5, this may proceed this error?
09:23<antivirtel>(otherwise, I wanna use grub... not lilo)
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09:30<supplicant>antivirtel: what RAID card do you have?
09:30<supplicant>and GRUB1 or GRUB2?
09:30<antivirtel>Compaq Amart Array
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09:31<antivirtel>and grub version ... I dont know, what is the better for a webserver in a school?
09:32<antivirtel>(the installer shows me only LiLo supplicant :(
09:32<supplicant>antivirtel: which version of debian?
09:32<antivirtel>lenny -5
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09:32<antivirtel>I've downloaded the img 2 months ago from
09:33<supplicant>antivirtel: and you have the standard install image?
09:33<supplicant>I'm trying to see if you have a fake RAID card
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09:33<antivirtel>supplicant I think I have the standard... but why would this raid fake?
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09:34<antivirtel> <-- I've downloaded the i386 arch cd version
09:36<supplicant>antivirtel: fake RAID differs from hardware (real) RAID in that it offloads processing to the CPU
09:36<supplicant>I think you have real raid though
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09:38<antivirtel>what is differ? and why is it fake? (sorry, I'm not so good in hardware side...)
09:38<supplicant>antivirtel: could you try:
09:38<antivirtel>yeah, that was it
09:38<supplicant>antivirtel: basically, fake RAID gives no advantage over software RAID (e.g. mdadm)
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09:39<antivirtel>so supplicant, what can be my next step?
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09:40<felixs>the problem about fake RAID is not the missing advantage over hardware raid (who would expect one?). the problem is, it messes up your configuration (if enabled)
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09:40<supplicant>antivirtel: you sure the machine is i386?
09:41<antivirtel>supplicant I think it is that, how can I make sure? I've got slax, ubuntu live cd near here
09:41<antivirtel>*+but how
09:44<supplicant>well if you can run an x86 ubuntu live cd, then i386 is what you want
09:44<antivirtel>ok, i try it now
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09:46<supplicant>and once it's running, paste the output of `cat /proc/cpuinfo/` and `lspci -vv` to
09:46<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <>, <wgetpaste>.
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09:47<antivirtel>supplicant Error reading boot CD, this may be fail? :O
09:47<antivirtel>(after I selected: Try ubuntu without installing)
09:49<antivirtel>I'm tring slay in text mode
09:50<supplicant>hmm sounds like you got a poorly burned CD, possibly. what are you using to burn?
09:50<supplicant>and burn at the lowest speed
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09:53<antivirtel>supplicant cpuinfo: Intel Pentium III, cpu MHz 496 x 2 because I have 2 procs; I have Compaq ProLiant 1600 server solution... I know, that is so old...
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09:54<supplicant>don't paste long output in the channel here, by the way. one line is okay, though
09:54<antivirtel>I wont paste it to here, I was an IRC halfop on some channels in other server... :)
09:55<antivirtel>supplicant the intell pentium is i386, or what else?
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10:06<Ajurna>hi folks
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10:08<Ajurna>quick question, I'm running a dual boot system with windows, I need to upgrade windows but I am unsure how to repair grub afterwards, I think the debian boot dvd offers an option, can somebody confirm ? what would be other ways of putting grub back in place (i think windows installer clears the MBR)
10:08<locklace>!reinstall grub
10:08<dpkg>See Boot a CD like <grml>, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/ Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode>.
10:09<Ajurna>erm yeah so I got an encrypted system will that be a problem
10:10<locklace>not really, it just adds a step or two
10:10<felixs>Ajurna: better create some working boot-media *before* you mess with the MBR
10:11<Ajurna>sure thats why I am asking ^^
10:12<Ajurna>since floppies got out of style I'm not so sure what to use as a method of recovery ... booting from usb nerver really worked for me
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10:13<felixs>Ajurna: isnt there a way to put the M$ bootloader thing *not* in the MBR. this, paired with a chainloading grub should be least pain
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10:14<felixs>(not mentioning the quickest way to remove _all_ pain)
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10:14<Ajurna>I don't know, windows has the habit of doing stuff without asking
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10:14<supplicant>antivirtel: the pentium III is i386
10:14<locklace>Ajurna: can your bios boot from usb or cd
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10:15<Ajurna>yeah I can boot from cd ... thats why i thought I'd just use the repair grub function of debian installer
10:15<supplicant>antivirtel: could you try redownloading the image from the link I suggested and reburning using the indicated program at the slowest speed?
10:15<locklace>Ajurna: you can do that. i recommend grml
10:15<dpkg>grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. #grml on
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10:16<antivirtel>supplicant if this is the problem, I'll do it, how you said, but not in school, at home... I try ubuntu 10.4 server, that what is can do now :D
10:17<Ajurna>alright I'm getting grml and print out my menu.lst and fstab that should be enough
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10:17<antivirtel>but I think, the lenny is better then lucid lts server, but I try ...
10:18<antivirtel>some files corrupt on the cd... cool :|
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10:19<supplicant>antivirtel: I run an ubuntu server personally and a lenny server here at work for ftp
10:20<supplicant>I haven't noticed performance issues with either, which I'm assuming is your concern
10:20<supplicant>antivirtel: try a different burner while you're at it
10:21<antivirtel>this cd is corrupt ... so I cant do it today...
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10:21<antivirtel>I wanted to work on it in weekend... :(
10:21<supplicant>you can also order CDs, if you're willing to wait
10:21<antivirtel>I've blank cds at home
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10:22<antivirtel>so I may use the right program
10:22<Ajurna>thanks for helping me out ,cya
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10:22<shiznatix>I am trying to get postfix to work following this tutorial: (I am running Lenny) but I can't get the mail to send with just a "unknown reason" error and a "connected from unknown[IP]" and "disconnected from unknown[IP]" in the log file. Could this be due to bad MX records or something else?
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10:23<antivirtel>so thanks your support supplicant I'll burn a better CD for next time
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10:44<chealer>hi. I have an issue with Iceweasel, when I click in pages a cursor appears (I can't type, but navigation keys like the arrows move the cursor instead of the visible area).
10:45<chealer>I'm using squeeze with experimental's Iceweasel 3.6.10. is this a known issue?
10:45<supplicant>chealer: all pages do this?
10:46<chealer>supplicant: heh, it seems so, no wonder why this has been annoying
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10:46<chealer>this must have started yesterday or 2 days ago. I don't know what I changed that could be related
10:47<supplicant>I think there is a setting you can change that affects this, let me see if I can find it
10:47<chealer>(restarting Iceweasel didn't help)
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10:47<chealer>supplicant: oh crap, carret browsing? let me check that
10:48<chealer>supplicant: sheesh. pressing F7 fixed it. that's the prompt you get the time and always say no. apparently I pressed yes by error
10:49<chealer>supplicant: thank you, I wouldn't have made the link if you hadn't mentioned the setting
10:49<chealer>s/get the time/get all the time/
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10:49<supplicant>it's also in Tools > Options > Advanced > General I think
10:50<chealer>supplicant: looks like it, yes
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10:50<supplicant>and obviously about:config if you search for caret
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10:54<datacrusher>is there such a tool as 'usb-creator' for debian?
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10:57<datacrusher>supplicant, dont have in aptitude... im using etch 64
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11:02<jhutchins_lt>datacrusher: Wow, there's been so much progress in the 64b releases I'm surprized you're still on etch.
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11:02<drot>how can I change framebuffer refresh rate when using nouveau?
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11:05<datacrusher>sorry jhutchins_lt im on lenny, missfired the names. im on 5.0.6, kernel
11:05<datacrusher>iv downloaded some dependencies, but when i try to install libc-bin it askes me for confirmation, but after when i go with libc6 it stills claims the dependencies for libc-bin
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11:11<supplicant>datacrusher: ?
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11:14<datacrusher>supplicant, got this error - unetbootin-linux-494: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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11:14<datacrusher>on the tutorial it tells me only to download it and put in /usr/bin
11:15<alexrold73>Buenos dias me pueden ayudar a configurar el sonido de una PIII corriendo con debian
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11:15<supplicant>datacrusher: have you tried installing libgthread?
11:15<alexrold73>lspci | grep audio
11:15<alexrold73>00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
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11:16<alexrold73>instale el alsa i ejecute el alsaconf
11:16<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
11:16<datacrusher>E: Impossível achar pacote libgthread
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11:17<datacrusher>sorry, - impossible to find package libgthread
11:17<alexrold73>pero nada de sonido no se nunca me ha pasado antes con otras maqunas
11:17<@Ganneff>alexrold73: goto #debian-es
11:17<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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11:17<@Ganneff>(or br or wherever) :)
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11:19<dominick>hi! i'm looking for a free software that can open Microsoft Vision files (.vsd) I'm googling, but does anyone know of any software? if not to edit, at least to open the files!
11:20<supplicant>datacrusher: could you add the squeeze repos?
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11:21<koollman>dominick: last time I needed that, I finally used an online converter to get pdf out of it., iirc
11:22<koollman>dominick: else you could try to get microsoft visio viewer to run with wine. might work. (also, google for visio, not vision)
11:22<datacrusher>supplicant, wont it mess with my updates?
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11:24<supplicant>datacrusher: you can configure it not to, by changing the priority of the repos
11:25<datacrusher>can I add them, install the dependencies on unetbootin and remove afterwards
11:25<supplicant>datacrusher: yes, you can do that
11:25<datacrusher>oh, thanks!
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11:31<dominick>koollman, thanks! do you know of any free software equivalent to import the file for editing?
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11:32<koollman>datacrusher: kivio, but I don't think there's an importer. it's a rather closed format, really
11:32<koollman>that was for dominick ... and he's gone
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11:47<datacrusher>oh, ok
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12:05<MonthOLDpickle>anybody here?
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12:08<hotwings>how do i enable system-wide core dumps?
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12:09<MonthOLDpickle>I am having issues with debian setting up
12:10<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:13<bugSSS>Tell me! what is Asterisk??
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12:14<hotwings>sip phone server? or something like that...?
12:14<dpkg>Asterisk is an open source, cross-platform telephone Private Branch Exchange (PBX). It can be used with VoIP and PSTN services. #asterisk on
12:14<koollman>bugSSS: it's a software PABX, which means it's a system to handle telephony with various services (sip, real phone lines, T1/E1 lines, and so one)
12:14<mjt> - a typo
12:15<hotwings>so as i understand, adding "ulimit -c unlimited" to /etc/profile will enable core dumps for all processes.. or whatever... for this change to take affect, can i simply re-login or does the box need to be rebooted?
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12:17<mjt>hotwings: your question is a bit wrong, i think. You probably want to enable core dumps for some specific service, to which /etc/profile may have no effect.
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12:18<mjt>hotwings: system services usually don't read /etc/profile
12:19<MonthOLDpickle>following this guide: I did the install sudo do the vsuido thing but when I get to log into my account and type install xfc4....entire command it says andee does not have sudo powers
12:20<hotwings>i have a small watchdog script i wrote for bash which crashes about every few days. after using set -x the only thing i saw was "Segmentation fault" after a case statement in the script. a guy in #bash on freenode said i should enable core dumps for everything so i can find out what actually causes the segfault.. so thats what im trying to figure out how to do now
12:20<hotwings>i would assume its bash thats segfaulting
12:20<mjt>hotwings: so you need to enable coredumps in the place where you start this script
12:21<mjt>or in the script itself - that'll work too
12:21<mjt>also, ensure it is running in a directory which is writable for it (or else coredump wont work)
12:22<mjt>(and /tmp may not work as it's "too writable" - but i'm not sure about that)
12:22<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: exact commands please, your description so far is too vague to be useful
12:23<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: the usual idiom is to "prefix" the whole command with sudo - sudo gives it root powers.
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12:23<hotwings>the script is placed in /usr/local/bin, is this ok?
12:24<mjt>ok in what sense?
12:24<mjt>you can place it anywhere you want
12:24<mjt>/usr/bin, /bin and /usr/local/bin are usually used for "normal" binaries and scripts that are runnable by normal users
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12:25<MonthOLDpickle>mjt: I get down to where I visudo to add my usarname in sudo
12:25<hotwings>so if i enable core dumps in the script itself, the core dump file will be located in /usr/local/bin then since thats where the script resides? also, is the core dump written automatically or do i need to do something to cause that?
12:25<MonthOLDpickle>than I exit and log into that username
12:25<mjt>linux dumps core in a current directory
12:26<MonthOLDpickle>skip down to do this: sudo apt-get install xfce4 gdm wicd xfce4-terminal 
12:26<MonthOLDpickle>I get do not have power/admin sudo to do it.
12:26<mjt>hotwings: when you run ls (which resides in /bin) where's your current directory?
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12:26<hotwings>ahh ok, so if i run the script from my homedir, the core dump will go in my homedir
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12:26<mjt>yeah, provided the script does not change its current dir
12:27<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: "I get do not have power/admin sudo to do it" - i can't parse that.
12:27<MonthOLDpickle>I can't remember it
12:27<hotwings>no, no dir change in the script. so would i just put "ulimit -c unlimited" after #!/bin/bash at the top of the script then?
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12:28<mjt>hotwings: that, or you can do that before running it: ulimit -c unlimited; /some/where/script
12:28<MonthOLDpickle>basically even after installing sudo and adding myself to visudo it says usarname does not have sudo powers to do this
12:28<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: that's something, finally :)
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12:29<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: so you're asking how to enable your user to use sudo to run apt-get and other stuff, right? :)
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12:29<hotwings>mjt - ok, got it. so now when the segfault occurs again, the core dump file will be written automatically?
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12:29<MonthOLDpickle>yea in command line haven't even installed a gui desktop yet
12:29<mjt>(visudo is something else)
12:29<MonthOLDpickle>oh the guide says to do the guide must be somewhat oldish?
12:29<mjt>hotwings: hopefully :)
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12:30<MonthOLDpickle>This is the guide I speak of
12:30<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: visudo is a command to edit 'sudoers' file, it is a command to run editor
12:30<hotwings>MonthOLDpickle - i use nano to edit /etc/sudoers.. and then i add the following: <my user> ALL=(ALL) ALL
12:31<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: there in the editor you add your usernames and stuff. you can't add a username "to" visudo ;)
12:31<mjt>hotwings: you also want the debugging symbols for bash
12:32<mjt>hotwings: or else the core dump will be useless
12:32<MonthOLDpickle>What I do underneath the all is new line
12:32<MonthOLDpickle>say my username is ping
12:32<mjt>or MonthOLDpickle ;)
12:32<MonthOLDpickle>ping ALL= (ALL) ALL
12:32<hotwings>yes MonthOLDpickle
12:32<MonthOLDpickle>than hit ctrl+o, enter, than ctrl+X to exit
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12:32<MonthOLDpickle>than I exit
12:32<MonthOLDpickle>log onto ping with pass
12:32<hotwings>mjt - how do i go about adding the bash debugging symbols?
12:33<MonthOLDpickle>type sudo apt-get install xfce4 gdm wicd xfec4-terminal
12:33<MonthOLDpickle>I get this in return this username does not have sudo power. this incident reported
12:33<MonthOLDpickle>some how I think I am editing the file in visduo wrong
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12:34<hotwings>MonthOLDpickle - make sure you are editing /etc/sudoers as root
12:34<hotwings>otherwise you cant save your changes
12:34<MonthOLDpickle>oh yes
12:34<mjt>he is
12:34<MonthOLDpickle>before that I type root
12:34<MonthOLDpickle>and use password
12:34<mjt>MonthOLDpickle: well, to be fair i never ever used sudo ;)
12:34<MonthOLDpickle>than type visudo
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12:34<MonthOLDpickle>should i type sudo visduo in root?
12:35<mjt>but at least now we know you rproblem
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12:35<hotwings>heres my process: login as root -> nano /etc/sudoers -> add: ping ALL= (ALL) ALL -> ctrl-x and save -> log out -> login user ping -> sudo apt-get install blabla
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12:35<MonthOLDpickle>It doesn't have nano install I believe
12:35<MonthOLDpickle>thats why visudo is being used
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12:36<mjt>wll, this Ctrl+X etc is from nano
12:36<MonthOLDpickle>yea but they are doing the same thing
12:36<qq->nano is installed by default on debian
12:36<MonthOLDpickle>I try in second
12:36<MonthOLDpickle>installing in virtualbox
12:36<mjt>visudo itself is not editor, it calls editor after locking the file
12:36<mjt>like vipw or vigr
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12:37<mjt>(lock to ensure no two users edit this file at once)
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12:37<MonthOLDpickle>I've only used nano before heh so thats why I been using vsudo -.-
12:37<MonthOLDpickle>cause the guide says so -.-
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12:38<mjt>the default has "root ALL=(ALL) ALL"
12:39<mjt>so it should be "ping ALL=(ALL) ALL"
12:39<MonthOLDpickle>so root has sudo
12:39<mjt>root already works without sudo :)
12:39<MonthOLDpickle>dont' I create a new line to add in PING ALL=(ALL) ALL
12:39<MonthOLDpickle>or change the root to ping
12:39<mjt>add a new one for sure ;)
12:40<mjt>(its ping not PING)
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12:41<hotwings>after you edited sudoers, confirm the change has been saved with: grep ping /etc/sudoers
12:41<mjt>heh. I just looked at `man sudoers'. this is too much :)
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12:44<hotwings>it should be really easy actually
12:44<hotwings>i never added more then two lines
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12:45<hotwings>i also add: <user> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL so i dont have to bother with typing a password. security is no worry :)
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12:46<hotwings>mjt - so do i load the bash debugging symbols in gdb, and then load the core dump or???
12:46<mjt>like that, yes
12:46<mjt>if that's bash who segfaults
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12:47<mjt>gdb will show you where the problem is, and devs will be able to work it out from there.
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12:48<MonthOLDpickle>so guys
12:48<MonthOLDpickle>when I get to it
12:48<MonthOLDpickle>under root
12:48<MonthOLDpickle>when I type nano
12:48<MonthOLDpickle>what do I type to edit the file?
12:49<mjt>you quit from the nano and run it again:
12:49<mjt>nano /etc/sudoers
12:49<mjt>or really, just use visudo
12:49<MonthOLDpickle>when I want to edit and save it I mean
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12:50<jpinx-eeepc>MonthOLDpickle: if you are setting up sudo - please use visudo - do not nano the file
12:51<MonthOLDpickle>okay..I will be trying again
12:51<MonthOLDpickle>I gave the virtual disk more memory and hard drive space
12:51<jpinx-eeepc>MonthOLDpickle: and please read man sudo before toucching it
12:51<mjt>that's what he did from the beginning, but disliked later for some reason :)
12:51<mjt>(using visudo thast is)
12:52<MonthOLDpickle>I am following a guide
12:52<MonthOLDpickle>>.> <.< >,>
12:52<jpinx-eeepc>MonthOLDpickle: follow the instructions in man sudo
12:52<jpinx-eeepc>"guides" are frequently mis-guided
12:53<MonthOLDpickle>when you say man sudo
12:53<mjt>it;s literal "man sudo"
12:53<mjt>without quotes
12:53<mjt>yes it's manual
12:54<jpinx-eeepc>oh dear....
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12:55<mjt>um. i just read man sudo (had to install sudo for that :).. well, diagonally anyway - that's lots of information but no "beginners guide" :)
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12:56<jpinx-eeepc>mjt: what DE are you using?
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12:57<mjt>lxde - i switched to it over a year ago from.. twm
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12:58<mjt>ok, make this 2 years already.
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12:59<jpinx-eeepc>2 years and you still don't know about sudo? :(
12:59<mjt>i know what it does, i even participated in its initial discussions, but i never used it
12:59<jpinx-eeepc>most people have learnt it, used it and abandoned it after a year ;)
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13:00<jpinx-eeepc>mjt: then you will know how to read a man page?
13:01<mjt>i tried to read it having in mind MonthOLDpickle's expirence
13:01<MonthOLDpickle>I've only used Ubuntu and fedora
13:01<jpinx-eeepc>mjt: ok - understood ;)
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13:02<mjt>and while the basic concept is quite simple and understandable, without a _good_ background both manpages (sudo and sudoers) are quite useless.
13:02<mjt>tons of info but no "simple" things
13:03<jpinx-eeepc>that's usual for man pages :)
13:03<mjt>so finding some guide was a very good idea
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13:03<jpinx-eeepc> maybe?
13:03<hotwings>ive never used visudo to edit sudoers. have always used nano and never had any problems
13:04<jpinx-eeepc>unofficcial guides have a bad habit of breaking stuff
13:04<CaBa>i fail to get a squeeze client talk TLS to our ldap server
13:04<mjt>hotwings: you cna edit /etc/passwd with vi or nano too. but for that, we've vipw command
13:04<CaBa>nslcd reports errors: ldap_start_tls_s() failed: Connect error: No such file or directory
13:04<mjt>hotwings: the difference is that these commands prevent concurrent editing of the same file
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13:05<mjt>hotwings: (at the very least; they may do more, like checking syntax etc)
13:05<mjt>hotwings: since these files are vital for the sytem, some more care wont hurt ;)
13:06<hotwings>honestly, the reason ive always used nano is because i hate vi. but then it wasnt hard to do <user><tab>ALL=(ALL) ALL<enter> ;)
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13:06<hotwings>my needs are very minimal.. ill never need to edit that file concurrently.. or need to edit it more then that one time for that matter
13:07<mjt>that's not entirely accurate
13:07<mjt>say, you may start editing and later pull the plug
13:07<jpinx-eeepc>hotwings: you fail to understand the principles behind visudo. the edited file is read-only
13:08<mjt>that too - i forgot to think about that
13:08<jpinx-eeepc>see the wiki for lots ore info and examples
13:09<hotwings>-r--r----- 1 root root 500 Sep 2 2009 /etc/sudoers <-- edited with nano, still read-only
13:09<mjt>um. no ;)
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13:09<mjt>hotwings: visudo edits different file
13:09<mjt>hotwings: and replaces the right file atomically
13:09<hotwings>oh, didnt know there was more then 1 file for sudo
13:09<mjt>hotwings: so there's no moment when the file is half-written
13:10<mjt>no, just one
13:10<hotwings>temp file you mean i guess
13:10<mjt>the same's done in vipw and vigr
13:10<mjt>they run editor for /etc/passwd.edit ec
13:11<mjt>and replace the result atomically when it's all written completely
13:11<hotwings>i dont even think i used nano on that one.. was probably just an `echo -e "user\tALL=(ALL) ALL\n" >>/etc/sudoers` :D
13:12<mjt>thus eliminating security races when the file is half-written, and eliminating possibility to have corrupt file in case power is lost while writing.
13:12<hotwings>yeah, gotcha. that makes sense
13:13<mjt>they aren't written without purpose, really ;)
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13:17<MonthOLDpickle>I figured it out
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13:17<MonthOLDpickle>when I was saving file it was saving it as /sudoers.tmp
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13:17<MonthOLDpickle>I erased the .tmp and now it works
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13:18<hotwings>cool MonthOLDpickle
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13:22<MonthOLDpickle>glad I saw it saying that I was doing it right just it was being saved as a .tmp by default
13:23<mjt>that's the atomic edit/rename thing
13:23<mjt>it's correct it used /etc/sudoers.tmp
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13:23<CaBa>noone with any clue concerning the ldap/tls issue? :(
13:23<MonthOLDpickle>ah but erasing the .tmp and saying and overwritting has made it work in user
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13:24<mjt>so something didn't work as it should... ;)
13:24<mjt>bugs, you know :)
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13:25<MonthOLDpickle>okay question
13:25<MonthOLDpickle>sudo apt-get install dmz-cursor-theme gnome-icon-theme gtk2-engines-murrine 
13:25<MonthOLDpickle>it can't find the themes
13:25<MonthOLDpickle>so I am assuming the themes have changed
13:25*mjt => afk
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13:26<qq->MonthOLDpickle, add main to sources.list
13:26<jpinx-eeepc>MonthOLDpickle: apt-cache search
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13:26<qq->MonthOLDpickle, lenny ?
13:26<MonthOLDpickle>nvm I missed a -
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13:32<mathieu>I wonder if my bug-report has been sent, I used reportbug from an ubuntu install
13:33<mathieu>I needed to use ubuntu because the install cd doesn't reconize my laptop chipset on sid/squeeze
13:34<mathieu>At the end of reportbug, nothing happen, the terminal says: If you want to provide additional information, please wait to receive the bug
13:34<mathieu>tracking number via email; you may then send any extra information to
13:34<mathieu> (e.g., where n is the bug number.
13:34<mathieu>Normally you will receive an acknowledgement via email including the bug report
13:34<mathieu>number within an hour.
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13:35<mathieu>but i forgot to use --email=...
13:35<mathieu>in my command line
13:35<mjt>browse the bugs for the package in question
13:35<mjt>if you're unsure you used the right email address
13:36<mathieu>I reported it for linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
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13:37<mathieu>which lead to here:;package=linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64#_0_28_5
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13:42<mathieu>I just wonder if the bug has been transmitted by my ubuntu to the debian bug server?
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13:43<mathieu>Or should I retry using reportbug -B debian linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 --email=myemail?
13:43<f8l>I remember someone saying: "Ubuntu gives nothing to Debian, except for bug reports."
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13:45<mathieu>I would do it from debian, but I have no choice at this time... my laptop's chipset is not recognized during the install process!
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13:52<Hannes>Hello, I'v just installed a Dell Cerc Sata 1.5/6 ch Raid Controller in my optplex 330 with 3 1TB disks, however no disk shows up in the /dev/. What should I do, do I have to install drivers?
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13:52<pipe>what do dmesg say?
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13:57<lee>hi can anyone help me setting up my elantech touchpad on my eee 900a?
13:57<Hannes>theres 24k of text, how can I send it to you? Do I just dump it here?
13:57<jhutchins_lt>Hannes: No, you read it. You look for something related to the card.
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13:58<lee>im following this:
13:58<lee>but i cant get it to work
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14:01<Duber>lee it can be a pain
14:02<lee>yeah i figured that but... i cant even highlight text
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14:02<lee>i dont wanna have to use a mouse, plus, when i had ubuntu it worked perfectly
14:03<Duber>lee in my case I managed it to work with synclient
14:03<Duber>have you tried it ?
14:04<lee>well, if i type: synclient -l, all i get is Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
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14:05<mjt>that's old synclient, right?
14:05<mjt>it does not need shmconfig anymore
14:05<Duber>lee I tried a bunch of things until I managed mine to work on eeepc 1005ha
14:05<Duber>try synclient TapButton1=1 TapButton2=1 TapButton3=1 &
14:05<mjt>why in background?
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14:06<mjt>but that wont work till that SHMConfig thing is fixed.
14:06<lee>yeah i get the same error
14:06<lee>mjt exaxtly
14:06<mjt>that's lenny right?
14:07<mjt>kernel is irrelevant here
14:07<mjt>x stuff is more important
14:07<mjt>synclient does not talk with the kernel it talks with x server
14:08<lee>you know, im not sure, how do i check?
14:08<Hannes>Ty pipe. I found out the correct path to the disks :P It was there all along, just need to check the dmesg for it ;)
14:08<mjt>check what? do you know what did you install? :)
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14:08<jhutchins_lt>There's a whole bunch of eeepc stuff on the wiki.
14:08<dpkg>The Eee PC (aka RM ASUS Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by ASUS. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> which is not supported in #debian, join #eeepc on for support. To install Debian, see for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1c>. Mailing list: #debian-eeepc on
14:08<locklace>Hannes: cat /proc/partitions or fdisk -l would probably tell you too
14:08<mjt>too late
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14:09<lee>yeah no i dont really know
14:09<lee>it was via unetbootin i didnt really pay attention lol
14:09<mjt>lee: cat /etc/debian_version ?
14:09<MonthOLDpickle>well I got it installed in debian
14:09<MonthOLDpickle>had to skip some stuff got errors during the command tweaking
14:10<MonthOLDpickle>so I am going to try it out on mini some time later I need a working os fo rthis weekend
14:10<mjt>lee: that's lenny. dunno where you've got 2.6.32 kernel from, are you sure about that?
14:10<mjt>makes sense
14:10<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.36-rc6-686 (2.6.36~rc6-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-24); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-23); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-23~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-25lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
14:10<lee>i had to do that because i've got an eee
14:11<lee>lots of stuff is better supported now
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14:11<jpinx-eeepc>lee: I'm using 2.6.32 from bpo too - works fine
14:12<mjt>it's not the kernel, it's synclient that does not work
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14:12<mjt>and granted, i forgot already how to use the old one :)
14:12<lee>yeah the kernel works great
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14:12<mjt>do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
14:13<mihkel>Hi. I just noticed that cronjobs in /etc/cron.d are not working in squeeze. Can anyone confirm?
14:13<mjt>so google for SHMConfig and see how to configure it into xorg.conf
14:13<mjt>lacking xorg.conf it'd be more troublesome ;)
14:13<lee>ok ill try
14:13<mjt>restart x
14:14<mjt>or better yet, just install squeeze
14:14<mjt>the one from squeeze will work out of the box
14:15<jhutchins_lt>mihkel: permissions?
14:16<lee>how can you be so sure?
14:16<mihkel>root@compaq:/etc/cron.d# ls -l
14:16<mihkel>kokku 12
14:16<mihkel>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 270 23. aug 18:49 munin
14:16<jhutchins_lt>,versions xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
14:16<judd>Package xserver-xorg-input-synaptics on i386 -- etch: 0.14.6-1; lenny: 0.14.7~git20070706-3; sid: 1.2.2-2; squeeze: 1.2.2-2; experimental: 1.2.2-3
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14:17<mihkel>munin wont run until I add munin-cron to munin's crontab
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14:17<mihkel>I also created a testjob... it wont run either
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14:18<mihkel>*/05 * * * * echo "ping" >> /tmp/pong
14:18<mihkel>no pong in tmp
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14:20<mjt>do you have cron runnig? :)
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14:20<mjt>anything in /var/log/cron?
14:20<mihkel>no errors
14:21<mihkel>I paste to pastebin
14:22<mihkel>the munin cronjob there comes from crontab not fron cron.d
14:22<mihkel>no sign of my testjob
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14:23<MonthOLDpickle>guys I don't feel confident enough to install this on my mini =(
14:25<locklace>!comfort MonthOLDpickle
14:25<dpkg>There, there, MonthOLDpickle. It's OK. I'm here for you.
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14:25<mjt>mihkel: how did you create the test cron job?
14:26<mjt>ok, i'm out of here for a while...
14:26<mihkel>mjt, nano /etc/cron.d/test and wrote */05 * * * * echo "ping" >> /tmp/pong
14:26<mihkel>and \n at the end
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14:28<MonthOLDpickle>I just annoying when following a guide and you just get either errors, not found and have to skip so I don't really know if the install was 100% good.
14:28<MonthOLDpickle>I mean I got it RUNNING in virtual box
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14:31<newbie>Hello, will someone please direct me to a resource that explains how to clone a hard drive into a virtualbox image and mount it?
14:32<jhutchins_lt>mihkel: What is the third possible character in a directory listing's permissions secitions? r,w, what?
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14:33<jhutchins_lt>mihkel: ?
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14:34<mihkel>jhutchins_lt, didn't you ask to see scripts permissions? :)
14:34<jhutchins_lt>mihkel: What is the third possible character in a directory listing's permissions secitions? r,w, what?
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14:34<Duber>jhutchins_lt x ?
14:34<jhutchins_lt>Which means what?
14:34<mihkel>ok sorry
14:34<jhutchins_lt>mihkel: Do you suppose setting the script a executable would have a bennificial effect?
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14:35<jhutchins_lt>benneficial... wish irc had spellcheck.
14:35<mihkel>I get it now
14:36<pipe>beneficial, hth
14:36<mihkel>I set +x for those scripts now... now I wait :)
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14:38<ompaul>jhutchins_lt: kdes konversation has one, you however may mean irssi or some such which may be worth looking at ;-)
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14:40<jhutchins_lt>ompaul: konversation 3.5?
14:40<qq->jhutchins, xchat has one
14:41<jhutchins_lt>or I guess it's 1.1.1 in 3.5.
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14:41<ompaul>jhutchins_lt: eh, 1.3.1 is the latest version of konversation, I'm on 4.4.5 (squeeze)
14:41<jhutchins_lt>Ah, that's why I don't see it in lenny then.
14:42<ompaul>jhutchins_lt: it has been a long time but I think that 1.1 may have had one highlight the line and right click
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14:43<jhutchins_lt>Ah, right click the input line, select auto spell check. Thanks!
14:45<mihkel>Hmm. Munin should run every 5 min. Its been 8 min now, but it does not run
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14:45<mihkel>also my testjob does not produce /tmp/pong file
14:47<cahoot> is */05 valid?
14:47<cahoot> is */5?
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14:49<mihkel>I changed it to */1
14:49<jhutchins_lt>Should be.
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14:50<jhutchins_lt>I have */5 in my crontab.
14:50<cahoot>was contemplatin 05
14:50<ompaul>mihkel: ehh, how are you calling the lines in your crontab ( crontab -e )
14:51<mihkel>I'm not calling them in my crontab
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14:51*ompaul scrolls back to catch up (sorry about that)
14:51<mihkel>should I call /etc/cron.d scripts in crontab?
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14:53<ompaul>mihkel: you don't have to, but what I am interested in is how you are calling things in there - for example */3 8-22 * * 1-7 /usr/local/bin/strigikiller
14:54<MonthOLDpickle>should I try to install debain or just install ubuntu til I have time?
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14:55<ompaul>MonthOLDpickle: you ain't sour enough yet (all joking aside) you are in #debian -- you should install debian and not try to :)
14:55<MonthOLDpickle>Yea its just I am heading south today and I have to tther my phone for updates lol
14:55<mihkel>ompaul, sorry I don't understand. Do you want to see the script? if so my test script is: */1 * * * * echo "ping" >> /tmp/pong
14:55<ompaul>mihkel: that script I am calling is the +x
14:56<mihkel>they have +x
14:56<ompaul>mihkel: and /tmp/pong has no content? does it exist
14:57<mihkel>it does not exist
14:57<ompaul>mihkel: do this "touch /tmp/pong"
14:57<mjt>that cronjob is wrong
14:58<mjt>you missed "user" column
14:58<MonthOLDpickle>I plan to do debian install once I get back
14:58<mihkel>can you provide me a correct one
14:59<jhutchins_lt>mihkel: root
14:59<mjt>mihkel: man 5 crontab -- that explains the format of _user_ crontab file, the one created with crontab command
15:00<mjt>mihkel: scroll down to "EXAMPLE SYSTEM CRON FILE" section
15:00<mjt>there, there are 7 columns now, not 6, 6th being the user to run this cron job as.
15:01<mihkel>oh I see
15:02<mjt>now, i'd argue this is a bug that cron does not complain about non-existing user "echo"
15:02<mihkel>*/1 * * * * root echo "ping" >> /tmp/pong <- is this correct
15:03<mjt>looks ok
15:03<mihkel>now I just have to wait a minute
15:03<mjt>note: crond re-reads its config files in cron.d/ only if the timestamp of the _directory_ changed
15:04<mjt>(when you edit it using vi, editor creates a temp file there hence changes directory timestamp)
15:06<MonthOLDpickle>when in command line based text entry
15:06<ompaul>seems like a lot of hard work when you could just type crontab -e and add in */1 * * * * echo "ping" >> /tmp/pong and know that will work and if you need it to run as root you su - and type crontab -e - I can't see a why you would do it any other way other than because you can :)
15:07<MonthOLDpickle>how can I change the ethernet ip?
15:07<MonthOLDpickle>and gateway etc
15:07<CaBa>when building the openldap source package, is there a way to disable the unit tests at the end?
15:07<MonthOLDpickle>ff I can't install debian yet than
15:07<MonthOLDpickle>it needs internet doesn't it?
15:07<mihkel>ompaul, I dont want to run my testscript. I want munin script to does not now
15:08<ompaul>mihkel: ahh
15:08<MonthOLDpickle>Do I need interent when its doing the install before I get to the command line for installing debian?
15:08<mihkel>anyway. neither munin os my test script is not running
15:09<MonthOLDpickle>answer is important lol
15:09<gdb>MonthOLDpickle: edit /etc/network/interfaces
15:09<MonthOLDpickle>but before I get to command line when its installing do I need ethernet internet
15:09<gdb>MonthOLDpickle: you can install debian without any access to the internet as long as you have appropriate install media (cd #1 for a basic stock install is fine)
15:09<ompaul>MonthOLDpickle: no, you can ignore setting up interfaces during install
15:09<Nemoder>MonthOLDpickle: you can use the first disc in the set instead of net installer or during the install you can bring up a virtual console with ctrl-alt-f2
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15:10<MonthOLDpickle>I am using the i386 business text iso
15:10<MonthOLDpickle>text = test
15:10<gdb>MonthOLDpickle: I have no idea if that has capacity sufficient for a stock installation. Perhaps someone else knows.
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15:10<MonthOLDpickle> the business one
15:11<MonthOLDpickle>I guess I can try
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15:13<gdb>MonthOLDpickle: Is there something that prevents your computer from accessing the Internet during the installation? Or are you just asking to "make sure" it will work just in case?
15:15<MonthOLDpickle>I am at work and server controls ip and dns and gateway
15:15<MonthOLDpickle>I need to get the gateway and dns chaned AND than assign it an ip in the range that the server reconizes
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15:17<p1rukas>When choosing new HDD for Lenny, should i pick 512 or new 4096byte sector drive?
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15:19<MonthOLDpickle>If I don't do that no interenet for the laptop
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15:23<mjt>mihkel: so does it work now?
15:23<mjt>the test script with echo?
15:24<mjt>when you change crontab file, crond re-reads it and indicates that in the log
15:24<mjt>did it notice the change?
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15:25<mjt>heck. i disabled logging from cron on my system :)
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15:26<mihkel>cron.log has entrys when I change ctrontab file, but when I change scripts in cron.d, then there are no entrys in cron.log
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15:29<mihkel>mjt, is this script working for you. I tried it on Sid also (has newer cron), but it won't run there either
15:29<mjt>i'm looking at my cron now :)
15:30<mihkel>actually I just checked. Sid does not have newer cron
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15:30<mjt>cron hasn't changed in quite long time
15:30<mjt>tiny corrections and that's about it
15:32<mjt>works here just fine
15:32<mjt>according to strace cron actually checks every file in /etc/cron.d/ every minute
15:33<ompaul>mihkel: */1 * * * * root echo "ping" >> /tmp/banana works with rw r r and the directory shows it was changed at the minute it started to execute
15:33<mjt>not only if directory timestamp changed
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15:33<mjt>i wonder if it pays attention to /etc/cron.d/foo file permissions... esp. the x bit.
15:33<mihkel>damn. then its my machine
15:34<ompaul>mjt: not needed here (squeeze)
15:34<mjt>i've seen some daemons _skips_ files with x bit set
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15:34<mjt>don't remember which ones
15:35<mjt>(since it's config file not really an executable, x bits can be used for something else)
15:35<mjt># cat /tmp/pong
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15:35<ompaul>woops :)
15:35<mjt>just 3 pings and voila
15:36<mjt>there's another possible prob - the newline at the end, but i think that has been already covered.
15:37<mihkel>I added new line at the end
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15:38<ompaul>mihkel: do this: cd /etc ; ls -l | grep cron.d | grep -v dail ; ls -al cron.d/test ; cat cron.d/test and past it showing the two prompts
15:38<ompaul>s/past/paste it
15:39<mjt>nope, my cron does not pay attention to the x bits.
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15:40<mjt>that's an.. interesting way to run `ls -ld cron.d' :)
15:40<ompaul>mjt: it has been a long week
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15:42<ompaul>mihkel: add one line to your cron job please echo " " >> cron.d/test
15:42<mjt>the newline is already there for sure
15:42<mihkel>I have a new line
15:43<ompaul>because I didn't see one in the paste which I execpected to
15:43<mjt>ok, how about /etc/init.d/cron restart?
15:43<mjt>if there were now newline, the prompt should be in the same line
15:44<mjt>mjt@gandalf:/tmp$ echo -n foo > bar; cat bar
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15:45<ompaul>mjt: I have a full line in there when I cat it ... it works so maybe that ain't the point either
15:45<mihkel> now I have two new lines
15:46<mjt>reaching the max jobs limit? Does it actually read the file?
15:46<mjt>strace it.
15:46<mjt>the whole things is just weird
15:46<mjt>ps -fwC cron - that gives you pid
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15:46<mjt>as root (sudo works), strace -p $pid
15:47<mjt>in another window, touch /etc/cron.d/test
15:47<mjt>so it has new timestamp
15:47<mjt>and watch in first window
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15:48<MonthOLDpickle>guys when adding a deb in the file...
15:48<MonthOLDpickle>I have to do this
15:48<MonthOLDpickle>Add the Debian Non-Free Repository:
15:48<MonthOLDpickle>sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
15:48<MonthOLDpickle>add contrib non-free to the Debian repository lines
15:48<MonthOLDpickle>- it should look like this at the end of the Debian repository lines:
15:48<MonthOLDpickle>/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
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15:49<MonthOLDpickle>I am sorry was pastign that in notepad
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15:49<MonthOLDpickle>here is my paste bin
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15:49<mihkel>this one keeps repeating
15:49<mjt>mihkel: you didn't wait long enough
15:49<MonthOLDpickle>I am confused on what to actually type
15:49<mjt>or did?
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15:50<mihkel>I'll wait more
15:50<mjt>mihkel: is it squeeze or lenny?
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15:50<mjt>mihkel: i mean, if it repeats it wont notice the change anymore
15:50<mjt>we have to wait for the next cycle only
15:50<mjt>after the sleep completes
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15:51<mjt>so keep that strace running and do touch /etc/cron.d
15:51<mjt>it should re-read the whole directory after nanosleep.
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15:52<mjt>stat64("/etc/cron.d", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 -- there it checks if the directory changed (it compares the timestamp)
15:52<MonthOLDpickle>ow should i look liek when actually typed out
15:52<MonthOLDpickle>uh what?
15:52<MonthOLDpickle>How should the source be added in my list what should it look like?
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15:54<mjt>mihkel: to be sure: did you start strace _before_ touch /etc/cron.d ?
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15:54<mjt>mihkel: what's the output of `ls -ld /etc/cron.d' now after touch?
15:55<mjt>restart the damn thing please.
15:55<mjt>i mean cron
15:55<mihkel>root@compaq:/etc# ls -ld /etc/cron.d
15:55<mihkel>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15. okt 22:06 /etc/cron.d
15:55<mihkel>will do
15:55<mjt>so it's current right?
15:55<mjt>the time when you touch'ed it
15:56<mjt>see: you cron stats the directory but does not see the changes
15:56<mihkel>I touched it a few minutes ago
15:56<mihkel>i restarted cron
15:56<mjt>does the timestamp correspond to that 'few minutes ago' ?
15:56<mihkel>it 22:56 here
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15:57<mjt>yeah, the minutes does not hchange between timezones usually :)
15:57<mjt>mihkel@compaq:/etc$ cd /etc ; ls -l | grep cron.d | grep -v dail ; ls -al cron.d/test ; cat cron.d/test
15:57<mjt>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15. okt 22:06 cron.d
15:58<mjt>-- that's from your earlier paste
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15:58<mjt>what filesystem it is? Please paste the results from mount command.
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15:58<mjt>that's just silly. ;)
15:58<MonthOLDpickle>When your not busy can yea help me? =D
15:59<mjt>touch changes the modification date of the file to current time
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15:59<mjt>/dev/mapper/compaq-root on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
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16:00<mjt>ok, that doesn't help really. how about: cat /proc/mounts ?
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16:00<mjt>(that's from content of /etc/mtab which is a plain file in your case)
16:00<pipe>mjt is very verbose
16:00<mjt>the situation is quite..interesting :)
16:01<mjt>heck. that's something i don't understand ;)
16:02<mjt>everything's ok in there. but timestamps does not work.
16:02<bst>MonthOLDpickle: add this line:deb squeeze main contrib non-free
16:02<MonthOLDpickle>would that bed deb-src?
16:02<MonthOLDpickle>or two deb followed by text okay
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16:04<mjt>mihkel: so, after restarting cron, does it work now?
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16:04<MonthOLDpickle>pastebin is broken for me now O.O
16:04<bst>i use that and works
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16:05<MonthOLDpickle>would that work
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16:06<mjt>mihkel: you've some weird issues, really, and it lies somewhere in the kernel or filesystem. I'd be _very_ interested to see what's goin on in there. Btw, check last few lines from dmesg, and check your date on the machine. cron _should_ work after restart since it reads everything unconditionally at startup.
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16:06<bst>MonthOLDpickle: yes
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16:06<mihkel>mjt, there is still no content on /tmp/pong
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16:07<mihkel>and strace looks the same
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16:07<ompaul>mihkel: you running selinux or some such?
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16:07<mjt>what's behind /dev/mapper/* stuff - is it some raid1?
16:08<jenders>Hi everyone, how would I go about automating apt install of a package that requires configuration?
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16:08<mihkel>ompaul, no selinux
16:08<mihkel>mjt, I have only one hdd
16:08<mjt>jenders: dpkg --set-selections; and DEBIAN_FRONTEND=non-interactive
16:09<mihkel>/dev/mapper is lvm
16:09<jenders>mjt: thanks!
16:09<mjt>mihkel: ok (re one hdd). Such weird things _may_ happen on raid1 when the two halves are not in sync
16:09<mihkel>first time I use lvm
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16:09<mjt>(and lvm may be on top of raid1, and it has raid1 moddule too)
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16:12<mjt>dmesg is all ok
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16:14<mihkel>root@compaq:/etc/cron.d# date
16:14<mihkel>R okt 15 23:14:51 EEST 2010
16:14<mihkel>date if fine also
16:14<mihkel>is* fine
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16:15<mjt>ok, if you touch a plain file (this your test cronjob is ok) -- does it change the timestamp ?
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16:16<mihkel>yes it does
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16:19<mjt>that pastebin returns zero-sized reply to me
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16:19<MonthOLDpickle>okay fffff FATAL: Module snd_seq_oss not found
16:19<mjt>how about mv /etc/cron.d/test /etc/cron.d/ping
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16:19<ompaul>mihkel: that pastebin url is not right can you check it please might be missing a letter
16:19<mihkel>here is a new one
16:19<mjt>will that mv change the directory timestamp?
16:20<mjt>what's this "aptitude-root.2497:2J0xUv" ?
16:21<mihkel>aptitude-root.2497:2J0xUv <- some thing in tmp... I don't know what it is
16:21<ompaul>thats /tmp mihkel how about /etc/cron.d/test
16:21<mjt>no, /etc/cron.d itself
16:21<mjt>(it's not test it's pong now :)
16:21<mjt>ls -ld /etc/cron.d - inline please :)
16:21<ompaul>and then ls -l /etc/cron.d/test and ls -ld /etc/cron.d (as I was politely reminded earlyers())
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16:22<mjt>ompaul: it's not test it's pong now :)
16:22<mihkel>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15. okt 23:20 cron.d
16:22<mihkel>timestap has been updated
16:22<mjt>at least that changed the timestamp
16:22<mjt>er ping even
16:23<mjt>mihkel: do you still have that strace running?
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16:23<mihkel>i started it now
16:24<mjt>so rename it again (say, back to "test' - does not matter really), so that the directory timestamp changes, and watch the strace
16:25<mjt>cron should do the stat(), notice the time change, and should read the directory contents.
16:25<mihkel>well that ping script is working now
16:25<mihkel>I'll post strace
16:25<mjt>no need
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16:26<mjt>now i fail to see what was wrong
16:26<mjt>and once there, cron should pick the munin cron jobs too
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16:26<mjt>but i fail to see why it didn't do so on restart.
16:26<mihkel>I'll waint and watch cron.log
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16:26<mjt>mihkel: did you actually restart cron?
16:27<mihkel>different pid
16:27<mjt>straced the new pid?
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16:28<mjt>*/5 * * * * munin if [ -x /usr/bin/munin-cron ]; then /usr/bin/munin-cron; fi
16:29<mihkel>munis should run every 5 min. but it still wont
16:29<mihkel>munin*....getting tired :)
16:30<mihkel>should I touch it
16:30<bst>MonthOLDpickle: oss-compat is installed ?
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16:30<mihkel>in strace I see sighns of ping script, but not munin
16:31<MonthOLDpickle>I did it again no error
16:31<mjt>signs of ping script?
16:31<bst>MonthOLDpickle: ok
16:31<mjt>which ones? :)
16:32<mihkel>stat64("/etc/cron.d/ping", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=44, ...}) = 0
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16:32<Hannes>Hello! I'v installed a SATA PCI Controller in my Dell Optplex 330 and 3 1TB hard disks, but I'm having trouble trying to use them. dmesg is telling me they are identified as /dev/sg3 sg4 and sg5, but when I try for example, #cfdisk /dev/sg3, the prompt disappears and I have to cancel the com to proceed
16:33<mjt>mihkel: please do the following. Stop strace first, stop cron, and run it under strace:
16:33<mjt>strace -o /tmp/trace cron -f
16:33<mjt>to see it from the beginning
16:33<Hannes>Imean, nothing happens when I #cfdisk /dev/sg3, or try fdisk
16:33<mjt>during startup it should check all directories read all scripts
16:34<mjt>Hannes: sg3 is not the right device
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16:34<mjt>that's "generic" devices, ghosts on top of sda sdb sdc etc
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16:36<mjt>mihkel: no, please pastebin the beginning of that file, up to the first nanosleep(60...)
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16:36<mjt>there will be a few getdents in there
16:36<Hannes>I see
16:36<M2_807705>Hi all, can anyone help me get working my Dell 5530, 3G/WWan on Lenny, please?
16:36<Hannes>hmmm... its says "[ 4.051123] scsi 2:1:0:0: Direct-Access SAMSUNG HD103SI 1AG0 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2" then "[ 4.114803] scsi 2:1:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0"
16:37<mjt>Hannes: but before that it mentions sda sdb etc.
16:37<mjt>Hannes: that sgN devices are used for things like loading firmware for example :)
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16:37<mjt>Hannes: cat /proc/scsi/scsi
16:38<Hannes>I see! thanks for the info buddy!
16:38<mjt>Hannes: and also cat /proc/partitions
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16:39<mjt>mihkel: lovely.
16:39<ompaul>line 231
16:40<mjt>yeah there it stats "ping"
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16:40<mjt>getdents(4, /* 6 entries */, 32768) = 116 -- line 226.
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16:40<mjt>6 entries looks about right
16:41<mjt>um. what?
16:41<mjt>munin, munin-node, ping, . and ..
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16:41<mjt>that's 5, no?
16:41<mjt>also dot and dot-dot
16:42<mjt>oh. and also .placeholder
16:42<mjt>to keep the directory non-empty :)
16:43<mjt>can you please do the same but with ltrace?
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16:43<mjt>this becomes more and more interesting
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16:44<mjt>and it's 00:43 here already, and 23:43 on your side :)
16:44<mihkel>yes it is
16:44<mjt>the ltrace will be large
16:44<mjt>run it, let it start and stop it right away
16:45<mjt>no need to wait ;)
16:45<mihkel>just ltrace cron?
16:45<mjt>ltrace -o /tmp/trace cron -f
16:45<mjt>or to xterm.. how it's easier.
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16:46<mjt>(-f to stay in foreground, or else cron will go into bg and no work will be visible)
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16:48<mjt>btw, i don't have munin crontab
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16:48<mjt>the one you have in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/munin
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16:48<mjt>(which is actually being read by cron :)
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16:49<mjt>um. this one-char-at-a-time reading is very useful ;)
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17:01<lukeylad118>Hi guys :)
17:02<mjt>mihkel: under ltrace it works ;)
17:02<mjt>er. no.
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17:09<mjt>mihkel: still around?
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17:10<mjt>please, rename your echo script back to "test"
17:10<mjt>and start cron again as usual
17:10<mjt>and watch if your pong file will be filled
17:10<mjt>i bet it wont
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17:11<rpetre>test is a bad name for a script (sorry if i missed the relevant half of the discussion)
17:11<mjt>it's irrelevant for now, really
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17:12<mjt>i choosed that name because i've a guess. that name were used before.
17:12<mjt>mihkel: and now, copy your munin cron job file to another file with name "ping"
17:12<mihkel>its not working
17:12<mjt>mihkel: i bet it will work ;)
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17:13<mjt>mihkel: see where it is going to already? :)
17:13<mjt>really, that was a question
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17:14<mjt>mihkel: what's your $LANG ?
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17:14<mihkel>root@compaq:/etc/cron.d# echo $LANG
17:15<mjt>the thing is: cron dislikes the names "munin" and "test" for a cron job
17:15<mihkel>Oct 16 00:15:01 compaq /USR/SBIN/CRON[29849]: (munin) CMD (if [ -x /usr/bin/munin-cron ]; then /usr/bin/munin-cron; fi)
17:15<mjt>but likes "ping"
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17:16<mjt>there's a valid_name() function that checks if the file name is valid
17:16<mjt>for a cron job anyway
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17:16<mjt>in our case it verifies that the filename matches regex /^[a-zA-Z0-9_-]+$/
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17:17<mjt>that is, one or more latin lower or upper-case letters, digits, underscore or minus
17:17<mjt>for whatever reason that regex fails to match "munin" and "test" but matches "ping"
17:18<mjt>this is a bug
17:18<mjt>please do: ls -1 /etc/cron.d | egrep '^[a-zA-Z0-9_-]+$'
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17:18<mjt>does it show all files ?
17:18<mihkel>only ping
17:19<mjt>(it really is egrep not just grep, because cron uses extended syntax)
17:19<mjt>ok, here we go
17:19<mjt>now, please unset LANG
17:19<mjt>and do the same again
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17:19<mihkel>and it show all 3
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17:19<mjt>here we go
17:20<mjt>it's error in locale definitions
17:20<mihkel>bug in et_EE
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17:21<mjt>mihkel: what's your glibc version?
17:21<mjt>and locales too
17:21<mjt>libc6 and locales packages
17:22<mjt>this is a grave error, definitely an RC bug
17:22<mjt>(the reason is that it breaks hell knows what on your system)
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17:23<mihkel>can you report a bug, because I did not understand half of the time what we were doing :)
17:24<mjt>only the last part is important. yes i can
17:24<Hannes>See ya guys. Ty for giving people tech support for free. Wow, you guys rock. The world would be better with more people like you.
17:24<mjt>lemme try to reproduce that locally
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17:26<mjt>reproduced it just fine
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17:27<mjt>chars in range t..z are "bad"
17:27<mjt>t..y actually, z not included
17:27<mjt>echo y| LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 egrep '^[a-zA-Z0-9_-]+$'
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17:29<jordanm>!tell mjt about cross-post
17:30<mjt>it was n't a question
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17:35<mihkel>mjt, thanks for you time.
17:35<mihkel>it was a nice debug
17:35<mjt>and not a nice bug, too
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17:36<jordanm>mjt: sorry
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17:36<mjt>mihkel: you're welcome, and thank _you_ for the time and efforts, it isn't often people has time and energy to debug this sort of bugs...
17:37<mjt>mihkel: why your touch does not work is another story... ;)
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17:42<MonthOLDpickle>anybody help?
17:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
17:42<MonthOLDpickle>I had to had # infornt of intel and drm and i915
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17:43<MonthOLDpickle>but when doing sudo update-initramfs etc says does not exist
17:43<mjt>mihkel: what's your email? If you want to receive notifications about this bug?
17:43<mihkel>turakas gmail com
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17:45<MonthOLDpickle>so how do I regenerate my initramfs and enable kernel-mode-setting
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17:46<jordanm>MonthOLDpickle: what version of debian are you using?
17:47<MonthOLDpickle> the business card one
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17:48<abrotman>MonthOLDpickle: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
17:48<jordanm>MonthOLDpickle: AFAIK testing is KMS enabled by default
17:48<jordanm>abrotman: not default? I didn't configre anything and it works..
17:48<abrotman>maybe not for him .. no idea
17:48<abrotman>i'm just answering his question on how to regernate the initramfs
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17:49<MonthOLDpickle>getting command not found
17:49<jordanm>MonthOLDpickle: again as root
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17:52<MonthOLDpickle>thanks that did it
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17:55<MonthOLDpickle>next error
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17:56<MonthOLDpickle>I put the error in there
17:57<abrotman>MonthOLDpickle: does that directory exist ?
17:58<MonthOLDpickle>I do not know I am following a guide -.-
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17:58<MonthOLDpickle>in commandline
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17:59<jordanm>MonthOLDpickle: all you are doing there is adding a file, and some contents to a particular directory. you should learn how to do that, not blindly follow commands
17:59<jordanm>else you will continue to run into issues such as this
17:59<MonthOLDpickle>I've always had issue with hidden files
17:59<abrotman>MonthOLDpickle: mkdir -p ~/.local/share/applications/
17:59<jordanm>abrotman: if he wasn't using a crippled editor he could M-x make-directory :)
18:00<abrotman>right .. because i'm sure the choice of editor is the problem
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18:00<jordanm>not the problem.. but emacs does give you a warning and tell you what command to type to create the directory
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18:01<MonthOLDpickle>still got an error
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18:01<abrotman>same error ?
18:02<mjt>mihkel: are you still around? :)
18:02<mjt>any other Estonians out there?
18:02<MonthOLDpickle>let me do it again
18:03<jordanm>!tell MonthOLDpickle about grounding
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18:03<jordanm>sorry, that wasn't the factoid I was looking for..
18:04<jordanm>!tell MonthOLDpickle about fundamentals
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18:04<MonthOLDpickle>I must have miss-typed soemthing
18:04<MonthOLDpickle>worked now
18:04<abrotman>typed ?
18:04<MonthOLDpickle>this KB sucks
18:04<MonthOLDpickle>like instead of hitting / I may have hit .
18:05<MonthOLDpickle>basically user error
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18:09<johannes_der_ahnungslose>Guten Abend allerseits
18:09<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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18:14<MonthOLDpickle>well goodbye guys!
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18:43<GhostlyDeath>What is the DRDY DRQ error?
18:43<GhostlyDeath>Drive Ready what?
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18:45<GhostlyDeath>The disk is new
18:45<GhostlyDeath>Has no SMART failures
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18:46<GhostlyDeath>They happen every 1000-40000 seconds
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18:54<dpkg>fabioqertyuio: VATTENE VIA!
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19:17<virtual>hi all
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21:47<filipe>anyone can sugest me an source.lists for debian lenny
21:47<filipe>anyone can sugest me an source.lists for debian lenny?
21:49<abrotman>/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list IIRC
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22:11<bigdaddy>Guten abend
22:12<bigdaddy>good evening ^^
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22:53<Guest2908>i installed debian 32bit. now i want to use my full 12GB ram. how can i do this ??
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22:54<abrotman>Guest2908: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem
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22:56<mom>what is the preferred way to say copy files from a user directory to /var/www ? do i chmod /var/www/ directory to be used by my user, or just copy everything as su?
22:56<Guest2908>must i restart after install?
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22:58<Guest2908>mom: must i restart after install bigmem?
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23:01<mom>im thinking to chown to my user
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23:18<jordanm>mom: depends on the environment
23:18<jordanm>mom: are you the only user/admin?
23:19<mom>jordanm: nope
23:19<mom>jordanm: im the only admin though
23:19<jordanm>mom: but you have other people who use and host their own website on it?
23:20<mom>jordanm: oh no, for the website just me
23:20<jordanm>mom: chown is fine, -R not required
23:21<mom>jordanm: i just did a ln -s /home/user/web was that bad?
23:21<mom>for /var/www/stuff
23:21<mom>as su
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23:27<jordanm>mom: just means if you user account is compromised they can deface your website. well, both the chown and the link
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23:28<mom>jordanm: but im keeping the chown as root
23:29<mom>jordanm: then just linking it to the user directory
23:29<mom>jordanm: a subfolder in user directory
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23:32<sortadi>hi there
23:32<sortadi>any good personal time management linux app with a nice GUI?
23:33<jordanm>sortadi: what version of debian?
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23:33<sortadi>jordanm, Debian Testing/Sid
23:33<jordanm>sortadi: hamster
23:34<sortadi>jordanm, is that an app for that?
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23:35<sortadi>jordanm, oh yes, I see now, but it's for gnome. Do you know about anything for KDE?
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23:40<jordanm>sortadi: don't use kde so idk. you can ask a kde channel
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