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---Logopened Tue Dec 07 00:00:37 2010
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00:37<dpkg>For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images.
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01:04<kd123>does anyone know how to use a IV algorithm other than the ones listed during a new install?
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01:05<kd123>does it have to do with loading the appropriate crypto modules?? :?
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01:07<mjt>guess you have to be a bit more specific
01:07<mjt>lots of stuff uses various IV algorithms
01:08<kd123>yeah I'm trying to use "ctr-essiv:wp512"
01:09<kd123>I only see like "cbc-essiv:sha256", "plain", "cbc-plain", and "ecb"
01:09<mjt>so specify it in whatever software you want it to be used
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01:09<kd123>i'm doing a new debian install from a cd... how would i do that?
01:09<mjt>depends on the software damnit
01:10<kd123>hmmm... well I'm using dmcrypt :)
01:10<kd123>with luks
01:13<kd123>so how would I go about implementing that during install?
01:14<kd123>I know how to designate those settings just with cryptsetup, but not during install
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01:16<ogkounsoto>how can i enable DF flag in ping command ?
01:17<mjt>kd123: dunno really. i just had a quick look at where the installer _might_ get the list of available algorithms - but _quick_ look didn't reveal anything :)
01:18<mjt>ogkounsoto: how about man ping?
01:18<kd123>mjt: thanks for checking... where does the installer look?
01:19<mjt>no idea ;)
01:19<yoshio>ogkounsoto, look at the "-M" option of ping (assuming DF= don't fragment)
01:20<kd123>mjt: lol... :(..... doesn't the installer only load certain kernel modules?
01:21<mjt>yoshio: that's true for iputils-ping, there are several other alternatives available
01:21<ogkounsoto>ping -s 1500 -M DF
01:21<ogkounsoto>ping: wrong value for -M: do, dont, want are valid ones.
01:21<kd123>mjt: i thought I could go into the install shell and issue modprobe commands to load the modules I needed
01:21<kd123>mjt: but when I issued
01:21<mjt>yoshio: you see? ogkounsoto does not want to read
01:22<kd123>mjt: 'modprobe wp512' it just said 'wp512 not found' :P
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01:23<mjt>kd123: it might be not included in install kernel
01:23<mjt>all crypto modules are in /lib/modules/$kern-version/kernel/crypto
01:23<kd123>mjt: ugh...
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01:25<kd123>mjt: Yeah... issuing the command 'modprobe -l' doesn't show wp512 or most of the other crypto modules...
01:25<kd123>mjt: how would I go about using a different install kernel?
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01:26<ogkounsoto>yoshio, what value to put after -M ?
01:28<jm_>kd123: d-i wiki has notes about that
01:30<kd123>jm_ : ok thanks... have you ever used a diff kernel for install?
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01:32<jm_>kd123: well yes, but it was built by someone else
01:33<kd123>jm_: ah... :)
01:34<kd123>jm_: do you know where on debian installer wiki they have that how-to? I can't find it
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01:40<jm_>kd123: similar to this
01:41<yoshio>ogkounsoto, traceroute has a '-F' option "-F Do not fragment probe packets. (For IPv4 it also sets DF bit,"
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01:47<kd123>jm_: thanks :)
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01:49<ogkounsoto>yoshio, thanks a lot
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01:59<kd123>what's strange is that when the installer prompts to 'load installer components' ... and I select 'crypto-dm-modules-2.6.32-5-amd64-di' and 'crypto-modules-2.6.32-5-amd64-di' ... it doesn't give me access to those modules :P or I don't know how to access them
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02:01<kd123>so aren't the modules already included in the install kernel?
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02:17<superiormic>can someone help me with metasploit
02:17<superiormic>is LHOST my network ip address?
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02:19<cthuluh>superiormic: #metasploit on
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02:22<superiormic>how do i connect to that channel
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03:54<maxpellez>i have one question for debian 5.06 netinst
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03:55<maxpellez>i need to play on web page an http and an rtsp video
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03:55<maxpellez>but totem don t start on chromium browser
03:55<maxpellez>it said missing plugin..
03:55<maxpellez>i also see that in debian 6 (testing) it work
03:55<maxpellez>can U help me
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03:58<maxpellez>do u know how can i solve this problem?
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05:20<Sydney>hello, everyone...I'm still a Debian newbie, and I'd need some advice on partitioning for my new laptop...
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05:23<jm_>Sydney: why don't you trust debian defaults ?
05:24<Sydney>HD is 320Gb, and would like to use LVM+crypto
05:24<Sydney>well, I usually used the defaults in past...but here it assigns 8Gb to swap...seems too much to me
05:26<Sydney>defaults assigns 350Mb to /, 9Gb to usr, 3Gb to var, 400Mb to tmp, 8Gb to swap and the rest to home...
05:26<jm_>even if you tell it you want one partition only?
05:27<Sydney>in particular, I had doubts on swap, as said, which apparently to me seems really too much, and to tmp, which, on the contrary, seems too small...
05:27<jm_>or rather to, / and /home I think it is
05:28<Sydney>never tried it...I said create the LVM and then put everything in separate partitions...I ended up here also to understand if there's any difference in splitting all the branches in one partition each or if only one or two partitions are practically the same...
05:28<jm_>the problem with spliting is if you run out of space, otherwise you shouldn't notice it much
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05:30<Sydney>I mean, for a normal daily use, no servers, no particular things...just word processing, internet, single partition may be ok too? honestly I never understood the difference between splitting or not, but have read it was better, so I did it :P
05:30<jm_>probably best to have / and /home I guess
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05:31<Sydney>where under / you have also all the usr, var, tmp and swap? or you put them under the other one?
05:32<kenyon>swap would be on a separate partition
05:33<Sydney>ok, so swap on a separate partition, and with 4Gb of ram, I thought that 1,5Gb would be enough...
05:33<kenyon>separate /home is nice for upgrades or OS reinstalls. you can reformat everything else and preserve /home
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05:34<jm_>Sydney: better go with more swap if you'll use suspend to disk
05:34<Sydney>and that's ideally what I would like to obtain...a safe home in cases of reinstalls...
05:35<Sydney>mmm, I see jm_ I do not usually use the suspend function on desktop, but maybe on laptop should come conveninent...
05:36<Sydney>so, to sum up, I should have 3 main partitions, one with / (which includes usr, var, tmp), one with swap, and a third one with home
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05:37<kenyon>sounds good
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05:38<Sydney>having as said a 320Gb hd, I could assing 20Gb to /, 1.5-3Gb to swap and the rest to home...sounds ok or not?
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05:40<kenyon>sounds fine
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05:40<Sydney>20Gb isn't too much, right?
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05:43<vook>anyone know where I should add: gfxpayload='1280x800' & gfxmode='1280x800' ? I keep adding it to /boot/grub/grub.conf, though, alas, it's overwritten.
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05:44<devil>vook: do you run update-grub after editing?
05:44<jm_>vook: did you check /etc/default/grub ?
05:44<vook>jm_: ok
05:44<devil>vook: were you editing grub.cfg?
05:44<vook>I'll do that
05:45<vook>I have, in /etc/default/grub .. (2 line paste follows
05:45<vook>uncommented it doesn't work
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05:46<kenyon>the GRUB_GFXMODE line should work.
05:46<vook>at least from past experience..
05:46<Sydney>ok, thanks to both jm_ and kenyon for their kind I'll go and try that solution...thanks again :)
05:47<jm_>i don't have current grub2 here to check how gfx_payload is set
05:47<gsimmons>vook: IIRC, that should be GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX in order to be picked up by /etc/grub.d/10_linux.
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05:52<vook>cool, thanks gsimmons and jm_ - this is what I used:
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07:53<molinaro>Saudações interativas!!
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07:54<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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07:55<molinaro>Vc e do brasil
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08:10<babaji>hi everyone
08:10<ansgar>Is there a way to get all CGIs (or PHP scripts) for a vhost (or in a specific directory) executed as a specific user? For example, I have a website in /srv/www/foo and everything should be run as user www-foo, but the owner of the files can be different (several people should have write permissions there).
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08:11<ansgar>suexec, suphp seem to only be able to run scripts as the owner of the files.
08:11<babaji>can anyone tell how can i change the logos and brand name of my cuztomize debian?
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08:12<unknownx0>figure out irc for first time ;)
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08:21<devil>go figure :)
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09:46<slipshot>anyone in here got an intel i series processor?
09:46<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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09:48<slipshot>well i ordered a new tower with an i3 and need to know if im going to have to upgrade the kernel in squeeze to support all the hardware
09:48<slipshot>its an h55 chipset
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10:02<dsHutch>Missing Dependency? Trying to install: "apt-get install libstdc++6-4.3-dbg-powerpc-cross", but get:
10:02<dsHutch>The following packages have unmet dependencies:
10:02<dsHutch> libstdc++6-4.3-dbg-powerpc-cross: Depends: libgcc1-dbg-powerpc-cross but it is not installable
10:02<dsHutch>E: Broken packages
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10:03<dsHutch>Is this a bad dependency spec, or is it really missing?
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10:12<cmot>yodel! anybody has a good howto/url about what to look out for when deploying ipv6?
10:13<cmot>I only know ipv4 so far, and afaik I need to start some daemon on the router and dhcp is quite different etc.
10:13<cmot>tx in advance
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10:52<reg3x>hi. i want to make a question. please correct me if im not in the right channel to ask. the question is the following: is there an alternative to "reprepro" ? . u might then ask why i need an alternative. the answer is ive been havin issues with reprepro and some packages, it throws me invalid hash number errors with some packages
10:53<reg3x>one characteristic that i could mention about those packages is thay they are very big. 10G and more . the hash number error is sorta random between them and i have to correct it changing the hash numbers on the file Packages
10:54<reg3x>so thats why i wonder if there's an alternative to "reprepro"
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10:56<reg3x>can anyone help me ? please?
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11:00<xA4Hx>I have a basic question for someone who knows linux
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11:02<reg3x>i need help with reprepro
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11:03<xA4Hx>reg would u help me with this question
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11:25<reg3x>xA4Hx, which question?
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11:54<Class>is there any txt file or kind of stuff where my
11:54<Class>mac address ip
11:54<Class>etc is located ?
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11:56<f0rk>Class: /etc/network/interfaces will show some information
11:56<f0rk>use `ifconfig` to show the current values
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11:57<Class>f0rk, yep but its not static
11:57<Class>i know im just looking for
11:57<Class>txt file
11:57<Class>or the data which is generated in sturtup
11:57<f0rk>there won't be one if the values are assigned dynamically
11:58<f0rk>that will be present in the output of ifconfig
11:58<f0rk>and the information in /etc/network/interfaces is static, it is how you set static IP addresses
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11:59<Class>f0rk, from where does ifconfig getting all this information ?
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11:59<jhutchins_lt>Class: Your mac address should be static, programmed into the firmware of the interface (unless you spoof it).
12:01<Class>jhutchins_lt, i know :) i just want find where is this
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12:01<Class>from where ifconfig gets mac address
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12:01<flaggy>I think jigdo template for squeeze is offline
12:01<Class>where this file is located on my hard drive
12:01<jhutchins_lt>Class: from the hardware.
12:01<f0rk>Class: the device driver
12:01<f0rk>well, yes, technically the hardware
12:01<f0rk>there is no file
12:02<jhutchins_lt>f0rk: Which gets it from the hardware.
12:02<f0rk>jhutchins_lt: of course
12:02<Class>f0rk, ifconfig ask to hardware and than discards this onformation
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12:02<Class>or it is saved on my hdd ?
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12:03<jhutchins_lt>Class: Some of the information is stored in the files in /proc/net - that's really RAM not disk though.
12:03<jhutchins_lt>Class: Why do you need to know this? What are you trying to do?
12:03<flaggy>I think only the link at is broken
12:04<Class>jhutchins_lt, yep thats it
12:04<Class>i was looking for this
12:04<Class>thank you :)
12:04<babilen>Class: You can easily change your mac address if that is your goal
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12:04<Class>i just want to steal it
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13:10<dominick>welcome pachu!
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13:12<dominick>hi pachu!
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13:12<pachu>hi dominick
13:13<pachu>hey bro now how to install .deb files
13:13<dominick>welcome to #debian pachu. You are now an official member of the debian community now that you are a user of debian. Feel free to ask us any help, but first, say hi to dpkg!
13:14<pachu>hi dpkg!
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13:14<dominick>try !hi
13:14<pachu>!hi dpkg!
13:14<dpkg>hello, f0rk
13:14<dominick>only "!hi"
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13:15<pachu>wt is it any way?
13:15<dpkg>it has been said that dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>.
13:15<dpkg>Please visit to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also ask me about <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>.
13:16<dpkg>Please visit to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also ask me about <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>.
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13:16<dominick>pachu, try "!msg the bot"
13:16<pachu>!msg the bot
13:16<dpkg>Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help>. Browse my factoids on-line at
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13:18<dominick>pachu, what help did you want?
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13:21<babilen>pachu: What are you trying to achieve? You typically don't install .deb packages manually but from one of the repositories with, for example, aptitude.
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13:24<dominick>!tell pachu about aptitude
13:24<pachu>babilen: day 1 bro
13:25<pachu>i'm waiting
13:25<babilen>pachu: Waiting for what?
13:25<dominick>pachu for?
13:25<pachu>how to install .deb packges
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13:26<f0rk>why? use aptitude
13:26<pachu>eg: gtalk
13:26<f0rk>,versions gtalk
13:26<judd>Package gtalk on i386 -- etch: 0.99.10-11; lenny: 0.99.10-12; sid: 0.99.10-13; squeeze: 0.99.10-13
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13:27<dominick>pachu, you can use ekiga which comes in the default installation of debian, to connect to gtalk.
13:27<f0rk>pachu: sudo aptitude install gtalk
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13:27<jhutchins_lt>f0rk: sudo is not configured by default in stable.
13:27<jhutchins_lt>f0rk: That looks like an ubuntu habit.
13:28<dominick>yes. pachu, you must type "aptitude install gtalk" as root!
13:28<pachu>suwat is sudo any way?
13:28<ptr>"Simon Says"
13:28<dominick>pachu, you can type "/msg dpkg sudo" to find out for yourself!
13:28<retrospectacus>!sudosmite f0rk
13:28*dpkg takes a lump of 2x4 to f0rk and yells "This is not #ubuntu!!!1!"
13:28<pachu>it says pachu is not sudoers file
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13:29<jhutchins_lt>pachu: It is a way of granting root privileges to regular users.
13:29<pachu>as root works
13:29<pachu>but not without root
13:29<jhutchins_lt>pachu: That's how lenny's configured, it expects you to use su - or log in as root.
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13:29<jhutchins_lt>pachu: Correct.
13:30<jhutchins_lt>pachu: Changes to the system, including adding or removing packages, are done as root.
13:30<retrospectacus>you're not allowed to install programs unless you are the administrator
13:30<dominick>jhutchins_lt, pachu is using squeeze, although the same thing applies
13:30<pachu>sudo is used for?
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13:30<jhutchins_lt>dominick: There are rumors that sudo is being updated to work by default
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13:31<jhutchins_lt>pachu: sudo executes one command as root, logging it's use and optionally requireing a password.
13:31<dominick>jhutchins_lt, that'd help reduce one step in installing debian.
13:31<jhutchins_lt>pachu: It can be configured to only allow certain users to use certain commands.
13:32<pachu>wat should i do to get to use sudo
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13:32<dpkg>You can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for <sudo> by adding a line like this to /etc/sudoers: 'user ALL=(ALL) ALL' (no quotes, replacing user with your username). For more security, please study the man pages from 'apropos sudo'. See also <visudo>.
13:32<pachu>it says its not sudoers file
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13:33<dominick>pachu, read what dpkg said!
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13:33<pachu>i i did
13:33<f0rk>oops, look what I've caused
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13:33<jhutchins_lt>pachu: Debian generally expects you to do administration as root rather than with sudo.
13:33<retrospectacus>!sudosmite pachu
13:33*dpkg takes a lump of 2x4 to pachu and yells "This is not #ubuntu!!!1!"
13:34<jhutchins_lt>pachu: Also, some of the channel users will get silly about sudo.
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13:34<retrospectacus>!confuse pachu
13:34<dpkg>Yes, what are my bacon tomorrow, pachu? Lederhosen of the Monarchy of Swaziland with extra anchovies.
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13:41<pachu>i added myself in sudoers list.. instaled gtalk but can't fid it in internet tab
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13:44<dominick>pachu, gtalk in the repository is a plugin for the talk client I think.
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13:45<Habstinat>Any idea where I can get these packages for Debian? libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3)
13:45<Habstinat>libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3)
13:45<Habstinat>libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3)
13:45<Habstinat>libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1)
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13:45<retrospectacus>!tell Habstinat -about search
13:46<retrospectacus>!tell Habstinat -about paste
13:46<tuxuser>hey guys
13:46<Habstinat>Sorry for the flooding. The packages aren't available in the default repos.
13:46<retrospectacus>,versions libqt4-xml
13:46<judd>Package libqt4-xml on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; lenny-security: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; sid: 4:4.6.3-4; squeeze: 4:4.6.3-4; experimental: 4:4.7.1-1
13:47<retrospectacus>Habstinat: you may need to upgrade to squeeze to get >4.5
13:48<Habstinat>retrospectacus: Thanks. How would I go about doing that?
13:48<babilen>Habstinat: What do you need them for?
13:49<retrospectacus>Habstinat: yeah, what are you trying to install?
13:49<retrospectacus>Habstinat: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze
13:49<Habstinat>babilen: I'm trying to run (or compile if neccessary) minitube.
13:49<Habstinat> /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze
13:49<retrospectacus>,versions minitube
13:49<judd>Package minitube on i386 -- squeeze: 1.1-1; sid: 1.2-1
13:49<babilen>I wouldn't go through all the hassle for minitube to be honest. But the process is detailed in the release notes:
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13:50<retrospectacus>Habstinat: you may also /msg dpkg tum ..and replace sid with squeeze if you want to try that
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13:51<babilen>tum might hurt your tummy
13:52<retrospectacus>mixing releases is a good way to get system-indigestion
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13:52<Habstinat>retrospectacus: judd: babilen: Hm. I would really like to run that app though; I ran it for a while on another computer running Ubuntu and it seemed to run without upgrading to squeeze.
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13:53<babilen>Habstinat: You don't have to upgrade Ubuntu to the next *Debian* release
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13:54<retrospectacus>well try tum... copy your lenny repos in /etc/apt/sources.list to squeeze, update, apt-get -t install minitube
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13:54<retrospectacus>woop, apt-get -t squeeze install minitube
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13:58<retrospectacus>will end up needing to apt-get -t squeeze install minitube libqt4-network libqt4-xml etc.
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14:03<Habstinat>retrospectacus: Thanks. To clarify: 1. Make a backup of /etc/apt/sources.list. 2. Upgrade my entire system to squeeze, which is the next Debian distribution still in beta. 3. Add the sources I backed up back into the /etc/apt/sources.list file in my new upgraded distro. 4. Run the command you just posted.
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14:06<Habstinat>retrospectacus: Just making sure I understand what I'm getting into here.
14:06<retrospectacus>Habstinat: nope
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14:06<retrospectacus>Habstinat: you want to EITHER upgrade the whole system to squeeze, OR add squeeze repos to sources.list and install the squeeze packages
14:07<retrospectacus>the first option is more supported but will take much longer and upgrade all your programs
14:08<retrospectacus>the second is easier and faster, if it works
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14:08<munga_>gnome-core: Depends: gnome-user-guide (>= 2.30) is this a bug ? shouldn't this be a reccomend ?
14:09<Habstinat>retrospectacus: Where can I find a list of the squeeze repos then?
14:10<retrospectacus>Habstinat: just take your sources.list file, and duplicate the lenny repo lines, changeing the duplicate to squeeze
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14:10<Habstinat>retrospectacus: Oh. Now I gotcha.
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14:12<retrospectacus>Habstinat: example:
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14:13<retrospectacus>Habstinat: also, you need to echo 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf
14:14<retrospectacus>this will prevent apt from trying to install squeeze stuff by default
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14:15<Frucius>hello, could someone answer a couple of newbie questions please?
14:15<retrospectacus>Frucius: first answer: don't ask to ask, just ask
14:17<Habstinat>retrospectacus: So just copy 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' with the quotes into my blank /etc/apt/apt.conf file?
14:17<Frucius>ok, well then, ty. I've installed Debian 5.0.7 and I've managed to get my wireless adapter to work after some effort. How do I go about saving the settings I've entered?
14:17<retrospectacus>yeah.. just the double quotes
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14:18<Frucius>I've been using madwifi
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14:18<Frucius>do I need to write a startup script or is there some way of saving my configuration for every re-boot?
14:19<zarchne>Frucius: depends... usually it's /etc/network/interfaces... what's madwifi?
14:20<Frucius>it's a binary driver for atheros wifi cards
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14:20<zarchne>If it's a module, you can put it in /etc/modules
14:20<Frucius><--- I've kinda jumped in at the deep end here, but if I can get the wirekess settings saved I'll be a happy bunny.
14:21<Frucius>I'll check those out ty
14:21<zarchne>What commands did you run?
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14:21<Frucius>mostly iwconfig, the modle loads at boot but with no settings
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14:22<Frucius>wllanconfig too
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14:23<zarchne>you can put "pre-up" or "up" commands in /etc/network/interfaces.
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14:24<Habstinat>retrospectacus: What was that command you wanted me to run after editing the two files again?
14:24<Frucius>righty zarchne, I see. I'll give it a try, ty.
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14:26<retrospectacus>Habstinat: apt-get update, then apt-get -t squeeze install minitube
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14:30<retrospectacus>Frucius: there may also be an alternat driver, /msg dpkg atheros
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14:31<retrospectacus>Frucius: just for fun, can you post the line of your atheros card from "lspci -nn" ?
14:31<Frucius>retro, I may look at that later, ty.
14:31<Frucius>I'll try
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14:32<Frucius>03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01)
14:33<retrospectacus>judd, pciid 168c:001c
14:33<judd>[168c:001c] is 'AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath5k' in lenny. See also and the out-of-tree 'ath_pci' module.
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14:34<retrospectacus>Frucius, check out that wiki page, talks about switching from madwifi to ath5k
14:35*apinski needs to figure out what wireless card is in his laptop as the driver was not installed by default :(
14:35<Habstinat>I successfully compiled Minitube. Thanks guys.
14:36<Frucius>I'll have a look, retro.
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14:39<retrospectacus>apinski, lspci
14:40<retrospectacus>Habstinat, you mean installed, right? you didn't need to compile it
14:40<apinski>I don't have the laptop with me right now and I think I need to reinstall grub on it too
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14:46<dpkg>elnovato | bah,m finally i undestood Jedit is the best IDE ever ever
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14:59<linda>oi tem alguem ai
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15:00<Frucius>took me 20 mins to work out how to navigate to and edit /etc/network/interfaces , meh :) Should be quicker next time I guess.
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15:00<Frucius>brb, reboot
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15:01<linda>oi saicvve sdceaa xvhv d\zzwvfd bvedsazxda
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15:02<OsirisX>oh god of debian - what package contains tools such as dch and dh_make?
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15:04<retrospectacus>OsirisX: package dh-make provides /usr/bin/dh_make
15:04<OsirisX>LOL well don't I feel like an idiot!
15:04<linda>oier love
15:04<linda>por qe
15:04<retrospectacus>OsirisX: package devscripts provides /usr/bin/dch
15:05<OsirisX>thanks retrospectacus ( cool name LOL )
15:05<retrospectacus>OsirisX: fyi, I found these facts using apt-file
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15:06<linda>vc sabe o bate papo que nois fala portugues ual
15:06<OsirisX>cheers retrospectacus
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15:06<linda>vce fa justin bieber
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15:06<retrospectacus>OsirisX, enjoy
15:07<yoshio>,file bin/dh_make
15:07<judd>bin/dh_make in lenny/i386: dh-make: usr/bin/dh_make
15:07<linda>fala em portugues
15:07<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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15:09<linda>naosei falar em portugues
15:10<linda>vc ta aiiii
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15:11<OsirisX>oh gods of debian - I am running debian squeeze but cannot seem to get the coherence plugin running in rhythmbox - (i.e. once enabled the share group never appears) - does anyone know how to solve this problem?
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15:13<linda>que namo com migodfbvjhbcc jus
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15:14<linda>oleofes te amo
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15:16<hpvincent>hi all, in chromium, what determine what kind of content is associated to which program ?
15:17<hpvincent>apparently is uses a system wide setting, but I am not sure where it is located
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15:18<jcberg>is there a way to have two internet connections, one application should use on wlan0 as default gateway and all other apps should use on eth0
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15:20<jcberg>but the app using wlan0 as WAN interface must still be able to communicate with the computers on the eth0 network
15:20<neocortex>Hello! Can anyone help me with the Firestarter: I just installed it and set it up, but after reboot I get 'failed' when Firestarter starts. Any idea?
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15:24<hpvincent>in other words, how do I associtate a mime type to an application to handle it ?
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15:29<jcberg>hpvincent: if chromium has no default handler for a file, it uses xdg-open
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15:30<saha>Hello! I am newbie to a webserver configuration, and I need to configure sendmail to use port 587
15:30<hpvincent>jcberg, and how does xdg-open determine what application to use ?
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15:30<jcberg>xdg-open first tries mimeopen, then run-mailcap, then finally $BROWSER
15:30<hpvincent>jcberg, thanks, that is very helpful
15:31<saha>When I try to use "mail -v root" I get 530 5.7.0 Authentication required
15:31<hpvincent>I found the /etc/mailcap file already, but mimeopen must be using another database yet
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15:31<saha>How do I configure SMTP auth correctly?
15:32<jcberg>hpvincent: do you have mimeopen?
15:32<hpvincent>hmm apparently no
15:32<hpvincent>jcberg, about your question earlier, basically , you wonder if it is possible to have a per process routine table ?
15:33<jcberg>try this: alias xdg-open='gnome-open'
15:33<jcberg>gnome-open might be more configurable i dunno
15:34<jcberg>yes hpvincent.. i found a solution though, but not a very good one
15:34<hpvincent>you could use a VM, but that 's a bit heavy :)
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15:35<hpvincent>with a light VM like openvz that would be a bit better
15:35<jcberg>the wlan0 app only connects to two different subnets, so i can add routes to these subnets through
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15:36<jcberg>and remove default through
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15:37<saha>Could someone help me with sendmail configuration?
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15:43<ComradeHaz`>Evening all. Can anyone recommend a piece of software for re-encoding a mass amount of flac to mp3 keeping the originals?
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15:43<jcberg>hpvincent: the xdg-open script seems to have been updated.. open it in a text editor and you'll see what it tries to open your file with
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15:44<hpvincent>jcberg, I define my own mailcap preferences apparently, in ~/.mailcap
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15:44<hpvincent>I can *
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15:45<jcberg>yea you got it working?
15:45<saha>ComradeHaz`: AFAIR, I used sox
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15:45<hpvincent>jcberg, not sure yet :)
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15:46<jcberg>if you are running KDE, it tries kdm-open, if gnome, tries gnome-open, if xfce, tries exo-open, if they fail, tries mailcap, then sensible-browser
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15:46<hpvincent>I am surprised, transmission is installed by gnome Oo
15:46<ComradeHaz`>thanks saha, that looks promising.
15:46<saha>I don't remember what script I used, but maybe you'll find this link useful
15:46<hpvincent>I wanted to install my own version of transmission
15:46<saha>or this
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15:47<hpvincent>now if I remove transmission with aptitude it removes gnome as well Oo
15:47<saha>Could someone help me with sendmail?
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15:47<ComradeHaz`>Awesome saha, thanks.
15:47<ComradeHaz`>WR sendmail, I fear I am under qualified :/
15:47<hpvincent>and they don't seem to package transmission-remote , so I can't use debian's version
15:48<miniminiyo>Hi, could someone tell me how to make a pogram to install as root can be run by my user, or run it in debian directory as root? the program is WICD
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15:48<hpvincent>ah yes transmission-remote is packaged
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15:51<dsHutch>Can someone help, I'm getting "E: Broken packages" trying to install libstdc++6-4.3-dbg-powerpc-cross.
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15:51<dsHutch>It needs libgcc1-dbg-powerpc-cross but it is not installable.
15:51<dsHutch>Anyone have any clues?
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15:53<amakusa>hello, does anyone know how to set a good resolution for the output video in ffmpeg, I'm recording my screen with the -f x11grab option but the resulting video looks horrible
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15:56<hpvincent>hmmm , I can't uninstall transmission-daemon, because deluser can't remove the debian-transmission (it says it's logged on, which is wrong)
15:57<hpvincent>zig@mizig:~/software/transmission-2.12$ sudo userdel debian-transmission
15:57<hpvincent>userdel: user debian-transmission is currently logged in
15:57<hpvincent>but it's not ...
15:57<hpvincent>that wouldn't even be possible since it's shell is set to /bin/false
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16:16<qwerty> mscorlib.dll <<<===== i need this
16:16<f0rk>what needs that?
16:16<qwerty> mono LOIC.exe
16:17<qwerty>The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded.
16:17<qwerty>It should have been installed in the `/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mscorlib.dll' directory.
16:17<qwerty>what need compile to run mono?
16:17<yoshio>,file mscorlib.dll
16:17<judd>mscorlib.dll in lenny/i386: libmono-corlib2.0-cil: usr/lib/mono/2.0/mscorlib.dll; libmono-corlib2.1-cil: usr/lib/mono/2.1/mscorlib.dll; libmono-corlib1.0-cil: usr/lib/mono/1.0/mscorlib.dll
16:17<f0rk>is the package you want
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16:23<hpvincent>jcberg, do you know how gnome-open is configured ?
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16:24<qwerty>oh, thank you f0rk
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16:34<damian_>What would be the easiest way to install debian to a computer with a usb? I tried using the dd command to put the iso on usb. But durring install it keeps asking for the cd.
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16:42<navis>hello, anyone here familiar with the spam reporting system for the mailing lists ?
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16:45<navis>I mean I currently bounce messages to, but I have no way to know if it actually works...
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17:14<diederik>is there a way that a (local) copy operations is verified with sha1sum and retried if different?
17:15<diederik>I'm trying to copy a file from 1 dir to another, but the sha1sums are different most of the time
17:15<retrospectacus>you could script it - that should not happen though
17:16<mjr>sounds like your hardware is faulty
17:16<diederik>retrospectacus: any idea why is does happen? I've tried cp, scp and copy/paste in dolphin
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17:16<retrospectacus>what mjr said - check "dmesg|tail" for errors
17:17<diederik>mjr: without replacing every part, how to figure out which hardware piece is failing?
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17:17<mjr>well, running memtest86 would be one way to start
17:17<diederik>dmesg|tail only shows msgs from boot
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17:17<diederik>already done that, no errors
17:18<mjr>how long did you run it for?
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17:18<hayleyw>is there a simple way to remove a line from an rtf file from the command prompt?
17:18<diederik>when I bought the memory, all night long making about 5 passes (3 for sure)
17:19<mjr>okay, well, that sounds like probably sufficient
17:19<diederik>recently more then 2 passes
17:20<diederik>I've had more 'unexplainable' errors, so probably something hardware wise is wrong ...
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17:20<diederik>but the usual response is 'replace component X' and see if that solves it
17:20<navis>diederik: change tour cables to disks
17:20<navis>diederik: change your cables to disks
17:20<diederik>navis: as in connect them to a different sata port?
17:21<navis>no, use new ones
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17:21<navis>not expensive, and could solve your problem
17:21<diederik>ah ok. what made you think the cables are/could be the issue
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17:21<diederik>good thinking :)
17:21<navis>apparently you copy files, and they end up different
17:22<navis>that sounds like the disk system is wrong
17:22<navis>and the cables are the least expensive parts :-)
17:22<diederik>could it be that my bios settings are 'wrong' for my hdd? I've read that they're mostly set up for old discs
17:23<diederik>(and not for sata discs as I have)
17:23<navis>not likely
17:24<navis>but who knows... hardware diagnosis is like black magic
17:24<diederik>yeah, I've realised that
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17:25<navis>btw, is the difference always the same ?
17:25<diederik>can I conclude that both cp and scp should consistantly copy things right?
17:26<navis>of course
17:26<diederik>what do you mean by difference? The checksum are different, most of the time (but not always)
17:26<navis>I mean you copy A to B, and B is different from A
17:26<navis>if you do it again, is second B the same as first one ?
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17:27<diederik>no, checksum for B is sometimes the same (wrong) value, sometimes different
17:27<diederik>so it's not consistant either.
17:27<diederik>I could try copying endlessly till it succeeds, but efficient/fun it is not
17:28<navis>nasty... you're potentially constantly losing data
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17:29<diederik>indeed. I'm trying to fix a iso I downloaded and it's not progressing as I like
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17:29<navis>you can use hdparm to test the disk
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17:29<diederik>using par2 and "unrar t isofile.iso" keep giving me different results
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17:30<navis>short or long test should bail out if something is wrong with your disk
17:30<diederik>can I do that while logged on (to KDE) or should I go rescue mode for that
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17:31<diederik>and do you happen to know the exact hdparm command I should use?
17:31<navis>I *think* you can do it while using the disk, but not sure
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17:33<navis>it's not hdparm... searching the command...
17:33<diederik>there is a hdparm program (installing it now)
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17:34<navis>it is smartctl
17:34<navis>whoa there is a gui now :-)
17:35<navis>the package is smartmontools for the console tool, or gsmartcontrol for the gui
17:36<diederik>yeah, just found it .. (thanks)
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17:41<jhutchins_lt>Kids these days can't do anything without a GUI - even if it's edit a plain text file, they're helpless without a mouse.
17:45<diederik>SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
17:45<diederik>but there are some errors, but I have no idea how to interpret the smart report
17:46<navis>you made the short test ?
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17:47<diederik>I don't know, I did 'smartctl -a /dev/sda'
17:48<navis>ok this only prints the smart status
17:48<navis>all infos
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17:51<navis>run smartctl -t short /dev/sda
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17:54<diederik>will I get a new msg when the test has completed? Is there a logfile I should check?
17:55<navis>"smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" will show the status
17:56<diederik>Status: Completed without error
17:56<navis>ok, now launch the long one :-)
17:57<navis>smartctl -t long /dev/sda
17:57<diederik>But it says in the description "Short offline". Isn't this online then?
17:57<diederik>Can I do other stuff while the test is going on? long test will take 59 mins to complete
17:58<navis>the drive will go to offline to make the test, but switch to online everytime you use it
17:58<navis>so everytime you use the drive, the test takes longer
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17:58<diederik>ah ok, thanks
18:00<navis>you can check the status while it runs with -c
18:00<navis>the "Self-test execution status" line
18:01<diederik>great, thank you
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18:06<lol>415 ppl and nobody replied, bb.
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18:10<tarniak>oh, he's already gone. pity
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18:15<diederik>what's the best/fastest way to compare 2 directories (with sha1sum for example)?
18:16<retrospectacus>diff -r
18:16<diederik>for binary files?
18:17<retrospectacus>sure. diff will tell you if they differ
18:17<retrospectacus>(it won't print the actual differences in binary data)
18:18<diederik>indeed, if they're different, that's what I need. thanks
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18:37<diederik>is there a checksum file for nzb downloads? So I can check whether the downloaded files match?
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18:39<diederik>Just realized I'm royally screwed wrt my hdd and par2 checks
18:39<diederik>Since sth with my hdd screws up, par2 fails at some file one time, but not the other
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18:41<babilen>What are nzb downloads?
18:42<diederik>for downloading from usenet
18:42<diederik>nzb is actually just a file with an index for the various parts of the download
18:43<babilen>Ah, ok. Do they publish/contain md5 or sha checksums?
18:43<diederik>not that I've found (so far)
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18:46<babilen>Well, there might be some specific way to check NZB files, but the nzb format does not seem to define anything like that.
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18:47<diederik>looks like it, bummer.
18:47<petemc>get a better usenet provider
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18:48<diederik>petemc: other then retention/ssl what can be different from one vs the other?
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18:49<petemc>some of the lesser ones have incomplete files
18:49<petemc>more often than not i dont need to use par2 before extracting
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18:50<diederik>hmm, looks like you have a point, my downloads (with sabnzbd) fail almost all the time (even with par2)
18:50<petemc>i use sab too
18:50<diederik>usually I'm able to fix it by hand, but that's not exactly what I was hoping for
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18:51<diederik>can I ask what usenet provider you use?
18:51<petemc>supernews, a giganews reseller
18:51<diederik>ok, thanks. probably will try that one
18:51<petemc>good luck
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18:52<Arrowmaster>i miss the days when isp's actually provided free usenet servers
18:52<petemc>my isp does, does binaries too. retention is about 10 days tho
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19:02<diederik>navis: Extended offline Completed without error
19:02<diederik>so, I'll buy some new cables tomorrow
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19:21<zerocool>thank you
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19:33<diederik>woohoo, source of my problems is the hdd. Finally I know where my issues come from.
19:33<diederik>copied the files to my server, did a par2repair et voila working
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20:30<theShadow>hello Icebrain
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20:32<zerocool>hello to everyone
20:34<theShadow>I can not open my second hard drive on my computer and not the external HD! can someone help me?
20:34<theShadow>I can not open my second hard drive on my computer and not the external HD! can someone help me?
20:34<theShadow>icebrain please help me
20:35<theShadow>ow ! hi all
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20:37<theShadow>400 people in this channel and no one can give me some attention?
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20:39<dpkg>The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
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20:44<zerocool>i got a hard drive connected thru usb to ide briged how can i format the drive or what command to use in kubuntu
20:45<zerocool>to format the drive
20:46<zerocool>thank you in advance
20:47<zerocool>ill guess nobody home thank you anyway
20:47<babilen>zerocool: Try #ubuntu on
20:47<zerocool>thank you
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20:47<babilen>zerocool: You are welcome. And you might want to take a look at "man mkfs.ext3" (if you want to create a ext3 fs)
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20:48<zerocool>okay man no problem i will
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21:54<ludo>hello, i'm having issues connecting to my pc remotely
21:54<ludo>via ssh
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21:54<chase>Pity ludo...
21:54<ludo>yeah i know...
21:54<chase>I'm having problems also... Like my mouse is off...
21:55<ludo>wow, snarky
21:55<chase>Off as in I have to be a bit above the button to click it...
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21:55<ludo>so, i've looked at my interfaces setting and it's good
21:56<ludo>i can ping my remote box fine.
21:56<ludo>checked my config settings and they are good
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22:42<OsirisX>when I run dh_make using sudo, it fails as it seems to be unable to read the current directory - any ideas on how I can solve this problem?
22:43<f0rk>su -
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22:44<OsirisX>f0rk: ok so dh_make is just not mean to be run with sudo?
22:45<f0rk>no clue, but try switching to root to see if that helps
22:45<OsirisX>f0rk: ok that worked
22:45<OsirisX>I will update my notes accordingly
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22:48<amakusa>does debian have and open source action script library? if ther is such a thing
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22:57<f0rk>OsirisX: fwiw, shell redirections are performed before the process is started
22:57<f0rk>if that possibly has some meaning
23:00<OsirisX>f0rk: it has meaning, but it is 4am and I am just not making the connection LOL
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23:05<f0rk>OsirisX: if you did something like `sudo echo "foo" > /root/file.txt` and you weren't root, it would fail
23:05<f0rk>becaus it would try and use your non-root use to create the file
23:06<RobbieThe1st>I've got a bit of a question about MD raids - I've got a md raid-1 with two partitions, sda1 and sdc1. Sdc has been removed and the new drive is sdd. I can --add sdd1 to the array and have it rebuild... but upon reboot, it "forgets" it
23:06<f0rk>RobbieThe1st: mdadm?
23:07<f0rk>save the output to /etc/mdadm.conf
23:07<f0rk>the output of
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23:07<f0rk>mdadm --scan
23:08<f0rk>I don't have any machines here at home with raid
23:08<f0rk>but it is something like that
23:08<RobbieThe1st>hm... currently, /etc/mdadm/madam.conf has no drive-specific code; just the UUIDs of my arrays and having it scan /proc/partitions
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23:09<f0rk>RobbieThe1st: mdadm --detail --scan > /etc/mdadm.conf
23:09<f0rk>backup the configuration first
23:11<RobbieThe1st>Hm... that doesn't help; "mdadm --detail --scan" gives me simply the two UUID lines and the array dev files; the same lines already exist in mdadm.conf
23:11<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <>, <wgetpaste>.
23:12<f0rk>^^ paste please
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23:13<RobbieThe1st>That's my mdadm.conf file
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23:16<f0rk>RobbieThe1st: do you know which partition underlies each of /dev/md0 and /dev/md1
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23:17<RobbieThe1st>Yes. /dev/md1 is my OS/boot drive, and I've got /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc1 (now /dev/sdd1)
23:18<RobbieThe1st>/dev/md0 is my data drive(raid 5), and it has /dev/sda3, /dev/sdb3 and /dev/sdc3 (now /dev/sdd3)
23:19<alvaradogunner>sudo fdisk -l
23:19<RobbieThe1st>I'm focusing on /dev/md1 right now because it's small enough to resync repeatably(25GB) without too much time loss.
23:20<f0rk>well if you know exactly which devices make it up you can list them explicitly
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23:21<RobbieThe1st>I'd -like- to list them by ID/UUID so that I don't have to worry about drive connector order
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23:24<RobbieThe1st>Though, I'm also trying to figure out just -why- it's "remembering" /dev/sdc1 when it's been gone for several reboots
23:25<RobbieThe1st>(and been removed from the raid via mdadm)
23:25<nevyn>RobbieThe1st: /dev/disk/by-id/blah...
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23:35<Fetid>Hi! I have this problem: I want to resize my partitions using gparted, unluckily gparted loves wasting time in "read-only" runs, before doing the real job, does anyone here know if there exists some command-line to avoid this behaviour?
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23:45<edbian>Is there a command I can issue at the terminal to see what is on the clipboard right now?
23:47<RobbieThe1st>Yes. Just a second...
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23:48*edbian crosses his fingers (I hope this is a yes for me...)
23:48<RobbieThe1st>xclip -o
23:49<edbian>RobbieThe1st, hurray!
23:50<RobbieThe1st>Oh, and better yet - If you are selecting something at the time the code is run, it will display -that-
23:50<edbian>RobbieThe1st, Great to know. Thanks. Now to read the source! :D
23:51<cthuluh>if you have autocutsel, then Shift + Insert should paste the clipboard content
23:52<RobbieThe1st>No problem. BTW, for anyone that cares: echo "`xclip -o`\n" >> ~/notepad.txt I use that, bound to a key-command, to stick any quotes or snippets I want to keep into a text file.
23:52<dpkg>[autocutsel] an "automated xcutsel" to sync cut buffer and selection buffer
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