| --- | Log | opened Sat Jan 07 00:00:23 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Sat Jan 07 2012 |
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| 00:02 | <fenris> | anybody feels like trying a challenge? |
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| 00:05 | <sney> | fenris: sorry, zero experience with EFI boot |
| 00:05 | <sney> | fenris: but if you feel like describing the problem, someone might pop out of the woodwork or have an idea |
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| 00:11 | <fenris> | sorry sney I didnt see you there, Thanks for replying!!! |
| 00:12 | <fenris> | basically |
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| 00:13 | <fenris> | I need to chainload either Grub2 efi to Grub2 mbr/bios ... or ... Grub2 efi to Chameleon (to be able to boot all three OSes) |
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| 00:32 | <fenris> | sney: I know its difficult, as its a very new technology and many people dont either use it nor needed, but im kind of stuck with it, the other option is to reinstall everything in MBR mode but ... we are talking 3 OSes with all their software all over again!! |
| 00:32 | <sney> | yeah that would be annoying |
| 00:33 | <sney> | I guess it's a mac pro or something? |
| 00:33 | <fenris> | so ... if there is a chance to ... at least, chainload grub2 uefi with grub2 mbr ... I'll be happy to try it |
| 00:34 | <fenris> | no, no, im doing it from PC, similar specs though, but a PC after all |
| 00:34 | <fenris> | :) |
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| 00:35 | <sney> | fenris: sorry, I have no ideas. if you try here again in a few hours you might have better luck, or in #grub or #debian on freenode |
| 00:36 | <fenris> | oh, I didnt know there was a #grub channel |
| 00:36 | <fenris> | thanks a lot, that can really help... you see, after all I've got some help ^_^ |
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| 00:37 | <fenris> | Im going to check there, those guys should know, is there are of expertise, isnt it? :) |
| 00:37 | <jimmythesaint> | Hi everyone! Does anyone know when we will get gnome 3.2 on Testing? |
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| 00:41 | <pic> | ere is there an old school talker deb? |
| 00:43 | <pic> | I'm looking for an old school talker |
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| 00:47 | <nevyn> | talker? |
| 00:50 | <pic> | nevyn, a 1990s thing |
| 00:50 | <nevyn> | like the command talk? |
| 00:50 | <nevyn> | or ytalk? |
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| 00:51 | <pic> | not a telnet social thing |
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| 00:56 | <jimmythesaint> | Is it bad form to email the maintainer of gnome 3.2 and ask when he will migrate it to testing? |
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| 00:56 | <sney> | no, maintainers usually let you email them questions |
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| 01:00 | <jimmythesaint> | awesome |
| 01:00 | <jimmythesaint> | thanks! |
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| 01:04 | <simonlnu> | though they'll probably get annoyed |
| 01:06 | <simonlnu> | probably get that kind of email at least once a day |
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| 01:08 | <jello> | can anyone help me with getting 5.1 surround sound out from my HDMI port? |
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| 01:09 | * | simonlnu has probably never seen an hdmi port so no |
| 01:09 | <simonlnu> | not me anyway ;) |
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| 01:45 | <stwx_> | is xchat free? |
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| 02:00 | <haylo_> | xchat is free yes. i started using linux because so many programs are free on linux oses |
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| 02:00 | <haylo_> | to use it with M$ demon you need to buy something i think |
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| 02:09 | <nevyn> | nah |
| 02:09 | <nevyn> | there's lots of free win32 irc clients (pirch and mirc32 being popular) |
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| 02:43 | <luis46> | Hi , new to all this. I am trying to install libdvdcss.so.2 and can't manage . |
| 02:43 | <luis46> | would someone be able to give me some directions |
| 02:44 | <kop> | luis46: You could try the dmm repo or other alternatives. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware and check out the multimedia section. |
| 02:44 | <luis46> | not sure i am at in the right place to ask for help ? |
| 02:45 | <kop> | luis46: You're using debian? |
| 02:45 | <luis46> | ubuntu |
| 02:45 | <kop> | !ubuntu |
| 02:45 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 02:46 | <kop> | luis46: You need another irc channel. |
| 02:46 | <luis46> | ok thanks for that . |
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| 02:57 | <sparky4> | what is grub's equivalant of a:\>sys c: ? w |
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| 03:10 | <haylo_> | luis will never find his lib lol |
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| 03:14 | <sparky4> | >< |
| 03:14 | <haylo_> | hay sparky :) |
| 03:15 | <haylo_> | base 4 ! |
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| 03:16 | <sparky4> | haylo_: MTOEHR FUCKER wwwwwww |
| 03:16 | <haylo_> | sparky the teecees have been mean to me- i see why you hate sauer people sometimes |
| 03:16 | <sparky4> | haylo_: stop stealing my base |
| 03:16 | <sparky4> | haylo_: i have an issue |
| 03:17 | <haylo_> | whats the issue? |
| 03:18 | <sparky4> | haylo_: grub: unknown file system |
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| 03:19 | <haylo_> | tha might be over my head. is it a dual boot system? a server? why is grub not working properly? |
| 03:19 | <sparky4> | haylo_: it is a dual bootsystem |
| 03:19 | <sparky4> | more like quad boot |
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| 03:20 | <haylo_> | yeah i have had similiar problems when i get three plus oses on one computer |
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| 03:21 | <haylo_> | can you start up into any of the oses? |
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| 03:22 | <sparky4> | no |
| 03:22 | <sparky4> | i may be forsed to use the OS/2 |
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| 03:23 | <haylo_> | sounds like time to go on wioth a live cd and back everything up for a fresh install |
| 03:23 | <haylo_> | build your quad boot monster afrsh! |
| 03:23 | <haylo_> | a fresh* |
| 03:24 | <haylo_> | sparky i get a lot of help on freenode #crunchbang irc |
| 03:25 | <haylo_> | there are some people on their that might be able to help you save that system if thats what you want to do |
| 03:25 | <sparky4> | irc://irc.freenode.net/#crunchbang |
| 03:25 | <haylo_> | but not right now- all the useful people seem to be asleep |
| 03:25 | <sparky4> | ok |
| 03:25 | <sparky4> | haylo_: yes..... |
| 03:25 | <sparky4> | my poor old PC |
| 03:26 | <haylo_> | i am hoping that you can go into it with a live cd and change some grub config files to save it |
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| 03:26 | <haylo_> | but personally i am a fan of very clean out of box installs |
| 03:27 | <haylo_> | it the only thing i have any control over lol |
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| 03:29 | <sparky4> | haylo_: in windows me |
| 03:29 | <sparky4> | just copy your files over to another hdd and |
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| 03:29 | <sparky4> | pop in a floppy boot disk and type |
| 03:30 | <sparky4> | sys c: |
| 03:30 | <sparky4> | and boom it boots..... |
| 03:30 | <redhu> | who are u |
| 03:30 | <sparky4> | redhu: me? |
| 03:30 | <redhu> | yes |
| 03:30 | <ompaul> | sparky4: and that is a debian question? |
| 03:30 | <haylo_> | we are sauerbraten players blowing up your channel |
| 03:30 | <sparky4> | ompaul: no it's grub |
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| 03:30 | <sparky4> | haylo_: w |
| 03:30 | <ompaul> | sparky4: on crunchbang ? |
| 03:31 | <haylo_> | ah you are on cb good! |
| 03:31 | <ompaul> | no idea I'm asking |
| 03:31 | <sparky4> | ompaul: debian |
| 03:31 | <haylo_> | leave sparky alone |
| 03:31 | <ompaul> | sparky4: what version? |
| 03:31 | <sparky4> | 6.0.3 |
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| 03:32 | <ompaul> | sparky4: there is a very good doc on the wiki for fixing grub |
| 03:32 | <ompaul> | !grub |
| 03:32 | <dpkg> | [grub] GNU GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) 0.9x, aka GRUB Legacy. A powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes and understands many filesystems. To install: "aptitude install grub grub-doc" ("aptitude install grub-legacy grub-legacy-doc" for Squeeze). To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub errors>, <grub2>, <supergrub>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
| 03:32 | <sparky4> | ompaul: the config i need to just reconfig it |
| 03:33 | <sparky4> | !grub2 |
| 03:33 | <dpkg> | [grub2] GNU GRUB 2 is the successor to GRUB Legacy (GNU GRUB version 0.9x). Packaged as grub-pc (PC/BIOS version) and grub-ieee1275 (Open Firmware version). Manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html . See also <grub2 squeeze>, <grub2 config>, http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition . #grub on irc.freenode.net. |
| 03:33 | <ompaul> | sparky4: you can get the bot to talk to you by doing /msg dpkg <foo> where foo is wwhat you want |
| 03:34 | <ompaul> | sparky4: check out th wiki page |
| 03:34 | <haylo_> | you help sparky4 you are good |
| 03:34 | <ompaul> | haylo_: have you a debian question? |
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| 03:35 | <haylo_> | no i wouldnt dare ask anything in the debian channel |
| 03:35 | <haylo_> | lol but i like debian alot! |
| 03:35 | <haylo_> | :) |
| 03:36 | <ompaul> | this channel is for tech-support sorry for being so dry, however that is what it is for, other noise is offtopic |
| 03:37 | <sparky4> | ompaul: i think a simple command reconfigures grub |
| 03:37 | <haylo_> | yeah i will keep it dry as well- to many channels are flooded. i guess i am just waiting to learn more about linux b4 i take my questions to the debian community :) |
| 03:38 | <ompaul> | sparky4: are you thinking of update-grub |
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| 03:38 | <sparky4> | ompaul: yeag |
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| 03:39 | <ompaul> | !tell haylo_ about install |
| 03:39 | <ompaul> | haylo_: call that lesson one |
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| 03:41 | <sparky4> | lol 125MHz under clocked Pentium MMX @ 200MHz |
| 03:41 | <haylo_> | ok, i am studying linux shell programming along side C. it ould be good for me to more about debian. I will try to read the literature you specified |
| 03:41 | <haylo_> | learn* |
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| 03:41 | <sparky4> | ompaul: ohh~ thanks! |
| 03:42 | <sparky4> | it found the kernal images in my mounted /boot |
| 03:42 | <ompaul> | that's it's job |
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| 03:44 | <sparky4> | ompaul: failed |
| 03:44 | <sparky4> | !grub errors |
| 03:44 | <dpkg> | methinks grub.errors is GRUB error X? Go to http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/Troubleshooting.html to find out what it means. |
| 03:45 | <ompaul> | sparky4: you should /msg dpkg grub errors and it does not pollute the channel with more noise :) |
| 03:45 | <sparky4> | ok |
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| 03:47 | <heikkila> | sparky4, how many OSes do you have installed? |
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| 03:48 | <sparky4> | heikkila: .................................................. Windows me, OS/2, freedos, and I don't remember anymore it was my experiential machine for a while |
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| 03:50 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 471] by debhelper |
| 03:50 | <heikkila> | sparky4, no Debian? |
| 03:51 | <sparky4> | heikkila: and debian ^^; |
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| 03:52 | <heikkila> | ah |
| 03:52 | <sparky4> | all on 1 60GB HDD |
| 03:52 | <heikkila> | sparky4, I would try to reinstall Grub in Debian if it is the main OS and then run update-grub |
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| 03:53 | <sparky4> | heikkila: from live CD? |
| 03:54 | <heikkila> | sparky4, you can't boot Debian? |
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| 03:54 | <sparky4> | heikkila: error: unknown filesystem |
| 03:54 | <sparky4> | grub..... |
| 03:54 | <sparky4> | heikkila: this is a back up HDD |
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| 03:55 | <sparky4> | the main one may hae a busted partition table but it cannot boot either |
| 03:55 | <pmhahn> | Any mono-gurus? App installs to /usr/lib/x86_64-libux-gnu/, lintian comlains about 70% arch-indep files. Are apps Arch: all? Should move and symlink files to/from /usr/share/? |
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| 03:58 | <ompaul> | sparky4: is this a new install? |
| 03:58 | <sparky4> | ompaul: no! |
| 03:59 | <sparky4> | quite old actually |
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| 03:59 | <ompaul> | sparky4: so what was done to create this problem? |
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| 03:59 | <ompaul> | 6.0.3 is not that old |
| 04:01 | <sparky4> | ompaul: copy all partions from main HDD to another hdd to get the stupid server up again |
| 04:01 | <ompaul> | sparky4: then you need to consider what hdd number and disk type sda hda etc |
| 04:01 | <ompaul> | in your fstab for a starting point |
| 04:02 | <ompaul> | and where it was on the original |
| 04:03 | <sparky4> | hmmm |
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| 04:08 | <ompaul> | sparky4: how did you do the install? |
| 04:08 | <sparky4> | ompaul: netinstall via live CD back when lenny was stable |
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| 04:10 | <ompaul> | sparky4: well I think you want a live cd boot the box check fstab against what the box thinks it is |
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| 04:11 | <sparky4> | ok ok |
| 04:11 | <sparky4> | nano /etc/fstab |
| 04:11 | <sparky4> | and change / and /boot |
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| 04:13 | <ompaul> | the other thing to note is that your other drive may not have passed on your grub so you need to do the whole update grub and check that out |
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| 04:15 | <Terremis> | moin ich komm bei debian einfach nicht weiter warum erkennt ubuntu bei meinem HP G62-120EG die soundkarte aber nicht die integrierten lautsprecher -.- |
| 04:16 | <heikkila> | !ubuntuirc |
| 04:16 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 04:17 | <Terremis> | xD meinte ubuntu erkennts aber debian nicht so rum xD |
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| 04:17 | <Terremis> | hab nur über kopfhörer sound -.- |
| 04:18 | <heikkila> | Terremis, this is for English and Debian only |
| 04:18 | <dtw> | !de |
| 04:18 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 04:18 | <sparky4> | wwww |
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| 04:21 | <Coudy> | Hi, Im trying to install debian on SW riad with GPT table, but I can't create partition with gparted {gparted crash}, fdisk does not support GPT... can you help me ? |
| 04:22 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a way to make a modified 70-persistent-cd.rules take effect, short of a reboot? |
| 04:22 | <EmleyMoor> | Coudy: What is "GPT" exactly? |
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| 04:23 | <Coudy> | EmleyMoor, GUID Partition Table |
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| 04:26 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... not something I've heard of before... are you saying the Debian installer can't handle it? |
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| 04:34 | <Coudy> | no, installer can't create file szstem |
| 04:34 | <Coudy> | system |
| 04:35 | <EmleyMoor> | You say gparted crashed - where were you running it from? |
| 04:36 | <Coudy> | from live cd installer |
| 04:36 | <EmleyMoor> | "live cd installer" - which? |
| 04:36 | <Coudy> | debian hubrid cd installer 6.03 |
| 04:37 | <EmleyMoor> | Have you tried using the Parted Magic live CD to do that stage? |
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| 04:45 | <Coudy> | no, but I currently downloading latest gparted stable iso |
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| 05:01 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a way to have 6to4 activated on a machine when network-manager brings the wireless up? |
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| 05:03 | <EmleyMoor> | (ah - not very practical I see) |
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| 05:32 | <EmleyMoor> | What, if anything, is the current state of affairs with Mobile IPv6? |
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| 05:34 | <simonlnu> | useful, i imagine? *shrug* |
| 05:34 | <EmleyMoor> | Its usefulness is undoubted... its usability may be a bit more of a problem... |
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| 05:35 | <simonlnu> | esp. with n-m maybe :P |
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| 05:36 | <EmleyMoor> | Is it in the kernel these days? |
| 05:37 | <babilen> | EmleyMoor: Are *any* carriers offering that or are you talking about tunneling? (which is complicated as you will most likely not get a fixed IP) -- This discussion might also be more at home in #debian-offtopic |
| 05:37 | <sparky4> | ompaul: failed |
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| 05:39 | <EmleyMoor> | babilen: Mobile IPv6 is an extension to IPv6 and is between the mobile device and a fixed device at the home location. It probably requires a fixed IP at the home end which, to me at least, is not a problem. |
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| 05:39 | <babilen> | EmleyMoor: Ah! Ta :) |
| 05:40 | <EmleyMoor> | There have been two attempts at it for Linux generally - not sure if something has come into the kernel or whether it's fizzled out for now... |
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| 05:47 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... maybe batman might help... |
| 05:48 | <EmleyMoor> | I am planning to get native IPv6 at home soon anyway - so then the fun will really start |
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| 06:09 | <Coudy> | hi, I'm back, system is installed on sw raid, but grub wont install loader to /dev/md0 or /dev/sda |
| 06:10 | <valdyn> | Coudy: why dont you tell us the error message |
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| 06:12 | <Coudy> | i can't tell it. installer is in my native language, I can translate it > installation failed "grub-install /dev/sda". This is critical error |
| 06:12 | <valdyn> | Coudy: "LC_ALL=C grub-install /dev/sda" |
| 06:12 | <Guest23255> | hi ihave just installed xubuntu .how do i find out how much disk space i have |
| 06:13 | <Coudy> | valdyn, LC_ALL=C grub-install /dev/sda |
| 06:13 | <Coudy> | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: warn: Discarding improperly nested partition (hd1,msdos1,msdos1,msdos2). |
| 06:13 | <Coudy> | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: warn: Discarding improperly nested partition (hd1,msdos1,msdos1,msdos3). |
| 06:13 | <Coudy> | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: warn: Discarding improperly nested partition (hd1,msdos1,msdos2). |
| 06:13 | -!- | Coudy was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
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| 06:14 | <Coudy> | sorry |
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| 06:14 | <Coudy> | valdyn, http://paste.debian.net/151300/ |
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| 06:16 | <Coudy> | valdyn, this is my sw raid http://paste.debian.net/151301/ |
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| 06:18 | <valdyn> | Coudy: line 10: grub is unable to find the device for /boot/grub. Where is it? |
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| 06:19 | <Coudy> | valdyn, http://paste.debian.net/151302/ |
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| 06:20 | <valdyn> | Coudy: that paste does not tell me where /boot is |
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| 06:20 | <Coudy> | valdyn, boot is on /dev/md0p1 |
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| 06:22 | <Guest23255> | how can i check my disk usage in xubuntu theirs no disk coming up in systems |
| 06:23 | <valdyn> | judd: versions grub-pc |
| 06:23 | <judd> | Package: grub-pc on i386 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; sid: 1.99-14; wheezy: 1.99-14 |
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| 06:24 | <valdyn> | Coudy: i cant see something being fundamentally wrong. But grub2 raid10 support might not be complete for this rather rare setup you have |
| 06:24 | <valdyn> | Coudy: which debian release is it? |
| 06:25 | <Coudy> | valdyn, debian hybrid live iso 6.0.3 |
| 06:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Guest23255: We don't support xubuntu here. |
| 06:25 | <valdyn> | Coudy: you mean you installed from that live iso? |
| 06:25 | <Guest23255> | do u know who does |
| 06:26 | <Coudy> | valdyn, yes |
| 06:26 | <valdyn> | Coudy: or do you mean that youre still running that live system and are trying to install grub from there |
| 06:26 | <Guest23255> | many thanks |
| 06:26 | <simonlnu> | Guest23255: #xubuntu or #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 06:27 | <Coudy> | valdyn, yes, still on live system and trying to install grub manually, because installer can't install it |
| 06:27 | <valdyn> | Coudy: ok, so youre in the new install chroot |
| 06:27 | <valdyn> | Coudy: what the grub-install sais, check your /dev contents |
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| 06:29 | <Coudy> | valdyn, do you mean mount /dev/md0p1 to /mnt/root, then chroot /mnt/root, and then what ? |
| 06:30 | <valdyn> | Coudy: then make sure /dev /proc /sys exist properly and grub-install from there |
| 06:31 | <Coudy> | valdyn, how to make sure ? how to mount it ? |
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| 06:31 | <valdyn> | Coudy: from outside the chroot: "mount --bind /dev /mnt/root/dev" etc |
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| 06:32 | <Coudy> | valdyn, Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0p1 failed. |
| 06:32 | <Coudy> | Please report this together with the output of "/usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs -v /boot/grub" to <bug-grub@gnu.org> |
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| 06:39 | <Coudy> | valdyn, http://paste.debian.net/151303/ |
| 06:39 | <simonlnu> | grub is a bit of a pian working with from within a chroot |
| 06:39 | <simonlnu> | pain even |
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| 06:45 | <Coudy> | valdyn, Im going to erase all disks with DBAN, then try it again |
| 06:46 | <ompaul> | Coudy: do you have a requirement for killing the disks with that much work or do you just want to blank them? |
| 06:46 | <Coudy> | ompaul, I want to be sure, than everything is erased |
| 06:47 | <ping> | hello |
| 06:47 | <ping> | exigt |
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| 06:47 | <ompaul> | Coudy: ok let me rephrase it, do you want to be sure that the partitions are forgotten about and would you be happy with a straight format of each partition? |
| 06:47 | <ompaul> | ahh well |
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| 07:23 | <A|ex|A> | hello there :) |
| 07:24 | <A|ex|A> | hey... is anyone here? |
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| 07:25 | * | mae_ here |
| 07:25 | <A|ex|A> | i have just installed win 7 via virtual box |
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| 07:26 | <A|ex|A> | and when i have started i can't move to another destop |
| 07:26 | <A|ex|A> | :( |
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| 07:26 | <A|ex|A> | does anyone here know why? |
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| 07:28 | <Jednostavna> | omg i am stupid trnoff x chat :( |
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| 07:29 | <A|ex|A> | mea |
| 07:29 | <A|ex|A> | are u there? |
| 07:29 | <kilelme> | !virtualbox |
| 07:29 | <dpkg> | VirtualBox is a Free software virtual machine solution from Oracle. To install, ask me about <vbox-install squeeze>, <vbox-install lenny>, <vbox-install wheezy>. http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ http://www.virtualbox.org/ #vbox on irc.freenode.net. See also <vbox manual>, <vbox guest>, <vbox-ose vs vbox>, <vbox migrate win>, <vdi>, <virtualization>. |
| 07:29 | <heikkila> | A|ex|A, try right ctrl, that would make your cursor free from the virtualbox window |
| 07:29 | <A|ex|A> | i know what is virtual box |
| 07:30 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 487] by debhelper |
| 07:30 | <A|ex|A> | only ctrl heikkila ? |
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| 07:30 | <kilelme> | A|ex|A: sorry i check for myself.. because i never use that.. |
| 07:30 | <heikkila> | A|ex|A, it might be a combination, I'm not sure |
| 07:30 | <A|ex|A> | let me see |
| 07:31 | <heikkila> | http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#idp7666992 |
| 07:32 | <A|ex|A> | wait now |
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| 07:32 | <heikkila> | For what? |
| 07:34 | <A|ex|A> | yest ctrl |
| 07:34 | <A|ex|A> | :) |
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| 07:43 | <A|ex|A> | hey |
| 07:43 | <A|ex|A> | why is my win7 is so small? |
| 07:47 | <ompaul> | cos it really shouldn't exist - not a debian question - I'll hazard a guess vbox is giving it a small resolution on a bigger screen and I don't use windows ever |
| 07:47 | <ompaul> | hint ask in a vbox channel or ##windows on freenode |
| 07:48 | <A|ex|A> | aham |
| 07:48 | <A|ex|A> | ok |
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| 07:49 | <A|ex|A> | alone on thet channel |
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| 07:51 | <ompaul> | A|ex|A: please don't give a running commentary on that channel ;-) maybe we don't need to know and you should hang around after all |
| 07:51 | <ompaul> | !volunteer |
| 07:51 | <dpkg> | Volunteers are people who do things for you for free. All the helpers on #debian are volunteers. Please treat them with respect and don't expect them to follow your orders. Insulting them or the things that they have worked hard to create is not a good way of getting help. |
| 07:51 | <ompaul> | and the same goes for most irc channels on oftc / freenode |
| 07:51 | <ompaul> | don't mind the insulting - it's in the factoid - I'm too lazy to cut and paste what I wanted |
| 07:52 | <ompaul> | don't mind it cos your not ( not do it ;-))) ) |
| 07:53 | <sparky4> | A|ex|A: install debian (LOL just kidding) |
| 07:53 | <A|ex|A> | sparky4 |
| 07:53 | <A|ex|A> | i have debian |
| 07:53 | <A|ex|A> | like home OS |
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| 07:53 | <sparky4> | A|ex|A: nice |
| 07:54 | <A|ex|A> | and now what? |
| 07:54 | <ompaul> | A|ex|A: you wait for your ##windows channel to wake up |
| 07:55 | <ompaul> | or vbox |
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| 07:59 | <heikkila> | it's called "host OS", not home |
| 07:59 | <A|ex|A> | ok |
| 08:00 | <heikkila> | And the ##windows channel is on the Freenode network, not on this one—which is Oftc |
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| 08:14 | <ubuntu__> | Hello in here. Can anyone tell us how to format the harddisk. We can't reinstall cause it's says we don't have enough space only 23,5 GB only left. |
| 08:14 | <heikkila> | ubuntu__, are you using Debian? |
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| 08:15 | <devil> | ubuntu__: 23,5 GB? what are you planning to install? |
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| 08:15 | <devil> | i can has 5 distros on that space |
| 08:16 | <ubuntu__> | It's a HP Pavilion Entertainment laptop with about 500 GB. We are running Linux Ubuntu 11.04 (natty) |
| 08:16 | <devil> | ubuntu__: then this is the wrong channel |
| 08:16 | <lo> | will kernel 3.x ever make it into squeeze-backports or will it only be in wheezy? |
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| 08:17 | <ubuntu__> | We will reinstall Ubuntu because we have problems running starting the computer right now. |
| 08:17 | <devil> | ubuntu__: but partitioningformating is done with e.g. gparted |
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| 08:17 | <devil> | ubuntu__: this is debian, you want an ubuntu channel |
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| 08:17 | <ubuntu__> | okay i quit here and try on ubuntu |
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| 08:18 | <lo> | in debian what is best way of doing ipsec? between two debian boxes |
| 08:18 | <lo> | long tiem ago i use racoon. but not sure if that's still de facto |
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| 08:56 | <Otkrick> | Hello, world! |
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| 08:59 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: Hello, Otkrick! |
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| 09:01 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield, Hi. What irc-client do you use? |
| 09:01 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: I got DCC communicate, but aborted it |
| 09:02 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: XChat2 |
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| 09:04 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield, i've aborted. have some problems with my chatzilla.. can't send mess to specified person |
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| 09:05 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: try to run it once again - we will test it |
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| 09:06 | <Otkrick> | Xeon, no-no.. simply, i don't know how to send mess in public chat in format "person: message"... you see, i write your nickname manually |
| 09:07 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: use TAB xD |
| 09:07 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: I write "Ot <TAB>" |
| 09:07 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: and have your nickname ;) |
| 09:07 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: greate! |
| 09:08 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: )))) |
| 09:08 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: have a minute? |
| 09:08 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: yeap |
| 09:10 | <XeonBloomfield> | people |
| 09:10 | <XeonBloomfield> | http://kwejk.pl/obrazek/809749/myszka.html |
| 09:11 | <martin_> | true story |
| 09:12 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: my server (debian) has two eth. interfaces in different nets (10.4.1.0/24 and 10.4.2.0/24), I want install KVM, when every virt. machine has own virt. adapter which can work with two physical.. i suppose, it near creating a virtual interface on host system |
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| 09:13 | <wab> | hello |
| 09:13 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: In KVM machine options you can't simply allow machine to use both interfaces? |
| 09:13 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: ? X.x |
| 09:13 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: it's all about aliases? |
| 09:14 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: w8 a moment |
| 09:14 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: I check it on my KVM machine |
| 09:14 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: in one v.machine should be one interface |
| 09:15 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: So you simply want to make it available through both host interfaces, yes? |
| 09:15 | <wab> | can anyone know the solution for instaling debian wheezy? I'm get (2 days ago) first dvd testing snapshot, and run installer on my desktop PC. On dvd menu usb keyboard work fine, but when linux start, keyboard and mouse (usb too) don't work, and I cannot configure my installation. What to do ? |
| 09:16 | <wab> | of course squeeze installer or other distros works fine, |
| 09:16 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: for example. I have two physical "nodes" with KVM and two interfaces. Virt. machine can migrate without problems, when it has alias to virtual adapter |
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| 09:17 | <wab> | I'm looking in google, and found post half year or older, and that solutons doesn't work :( |
| 09:17 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: Did you use "Virtual Machine Manager" ? |
| 09:18 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: no.. |
| 09:18 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: check it out |
| 09:18 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: thx |
| 09:18 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: you have GUI to administrate KVM virtual machines |
| 09:19 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: also network settings |
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| 09:21 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: when i try proxmox ve, there was a GUI for creating alias (virt adapter based on specified physical adapter) |
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| 09:22 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: w8 I will make you screenshot |
| 09:24 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: accept file transfer |
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| 09:25 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: Chatzilla: Internal error dispatching command “dcc-accept”. |
| 09:26 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: w8 |
| 09:26 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: i've get it |
| 09:27 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: ok, I uploaded it |
| 09:27 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: Must be in REQUESTED state and direction GET. |
| 09:28 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: sorry, i use it first day.. |
| 09:28 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-01072012-032306pm.php |
| 09:28 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: wow, big thanks!! |
| 09:28 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: Did you wanted it? |
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| 09:31 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: hm, maybe. i'll try to migrate such v.machine |
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| 09:32 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: but you get screenshot link, right? |
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| 09:33 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: yes. but you see, there is a source device.. what device? i have two devices with different NATs |
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| 09:35 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: my "node" have to route packets in "exotic" way.. i think, that i must use some virtual interface for host machine and v.machines will use this v.interface as source device |
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| 09:38 | <m8> | Otkrick, are you talking to anyonr or just talkin out loud? ;) |
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| 09:40 | <bst> | wab: first install squeeze then upgrade to wheezy |
| 09:40 | <bst> | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 09:40 | <dpkg> | First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, and change squeeze to wheezy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while. |
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| 09:41 | <bst> | wab: see dpkg msg |
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| 09:42 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: I can connect physical route to two different switches (two wan interfaces 10.4.1.0,10.4.2.0), router lan interface (192.168.0.1) connect to KVM-machine with one interface (192.168.0.2). For the second node also use router with lan interface in 192.168.0.0. So, I can migrate machine to other node with no problems |
| 09:43 | <XeonBloomfield> | ,h, |
| 09:43 | <Otkrick> | m8: sorry for my English, i don't understand your phrase.. m? |
| 09:43 | <XeonBloomfield> | mh* |
| 09:43 | <XeonBloomfield> | mhm* |
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| 09:44 | <Domovoy> | hi |
| 09:44 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: so as you explained it now, virtual network interface on host node is best way |
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| 09:44 | <m8> | Domovoy, hello |
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| 09:46 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: how? )) i mean, what tool I should use? |
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| 09:47 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-configure-linux-virtual-local-area-network-vlan.html |
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| 09:49 | <Domovoy> | i upgraded my system from stable to testing. Trouble is, grub complains my core.img is too big, so now i can't boot anymore. I booted on a live system in order to fix this. My / partition is configure as xfs on raid10+lvm, it starts at 32.3kB (1st cylinder, too small for my core.img...). How can i shrink it so that it start at the 2nd cylinder, keep my raid10+lvm setup, the data on it, and my system bootable again (that should b |
| 09:49 | <Domovoy> | e easy once i have some free space for core.img)? |
| 09:49 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: but vlan based on one physical interface. m? I speak about HA |
| 09:50 | <Domovoy> | my raid is setup with mdadm |
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| 09:52 | <bst> | Domovoy: please join #debian-next (channel for debian's upcoming releases) and ask there |
| 09:52 | <Domovoy> | bst, ok, thanks |
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| 09:53 | <Drakonian13> | !eeepc |
| 09:53 | <dpkg> | The Eee PC (aka RM ASUS Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by ASUS. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> which is not supported in #debian, join #eeepc on irc.freenode.net for support. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1c>. Mailing list: http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=31309 #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 10:04 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/test654.php |
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| 10:08 | <Domovoy> | i don't get any answer in #debian-next fo now, so i'll stay there hoping for one. Anyway, imho this has nothing to do with testing itself, but with raid10+lvm+xfs. So, first question would be: how to shrink a xfs filesystem? |
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| 10:10 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: what is "nROUTER" ? |
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| 10:12 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: additional router (for experiment). In this case, everything works good, but I want nRouters "move" to KVM-machine |
| 10:13 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: so best idea would be vlan |
| 10:13 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: you create it, with necessary address |
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| 10:14 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: you see that "nROUTER" make vlan, so why not do it on KVM machine by software? |
| 10:15 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: well, in /etc/network/interfaces I write something like "iface ... vlan_row_device eth0", yes? does it work, when eth0 is down, but eth1 is up? |
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| 10:17 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: or.. will it works if vlan_row_device down? |
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| 10:22 | <EmleyMoor> | arpwatch has been reporting "false" flip flops here - sometimes more than others - for ages. What can I do about it? |
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| 10:25 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: [vlan.ethX it vlan interface based on ethX]. 1 - create vlan.eth0 and vlan.eth1 2 - bond0 on vlan.eth0 and vlan.eth1 in mode 1 3 - create virtual network interface for virt. machines based on bond0? is it normal or it's time to go to the doctor? |
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| 10:35 | <Guest23265> | hi, I removed from gnome-panel the icon regarding the networks-connection. How can I reinstall it? |
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| 10:37 | <mc68040> | EmleyMoor: How do you define "false" flip flops? Afaik arpwatch reports a flip flop when the mac-address of a known ip-address changes, for example if theres a dhcp-server without static bindings this often happens |
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| 10:38 | <EmleyMoor> | mc68040: When what it's reporting cannot possibly be correct as the other interface is statically defined as a totally different IP address |
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| 10:43 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: Why bond0 on veth0 and veth1 instead of eth0 and eth1? |
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| 10:45 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: mm.. eth0: 10.4.1.0, eth1: 10.4.2.0. when veth0 and veth1 in 192.168.0.0/24. no? |
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| 10:46 | <mc68040> | EmleyMoor: arpwatch doesnt care about ip networks, arpwatch is based on received arp requests which are independant of ip addresses, arp is a network protocol of its own |
| 10:46 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: ah, ok |
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| 10:46 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: so, if everything is working - it is good done |
| 10:49 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: i've just tried up veth based on eth0. It also down, when eth0 is down.. so, bonding on veth0/veth1 my last chance.. i have not two interfaces on my machine now.. so will try later |
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| 11:02 | <Coudy> | valdyn, hi, Im back.. system installed, grub installed , installation without error, but I can't boot > /dev/md0 does not exist, |
| 11:03 | <Coudy> | valdyn, loadmodule mdraid is in grub options |
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| 11:05 | <mc68040> | Coudy: Afaik the md subsystem is started by initrd |
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| 11:10 | <angel> | hola |
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| 11:10 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: I hope you will get it working well |
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| 11:20 | <Coudy> | are you writting something ? debian live cd system crashed |
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| 11:24 | <w1r3> | client |
| 11:24 | <Sicelo> | ~18:05 < mc68040> Coudy: Afaik the md subsystem is started by initrd |
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| 11:25 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: thx. if you interested in such strange way, i can send results on your email |
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| 11:28 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: xeon.bloomfield@gmail.com |
| 11:28 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: ok |
| 11:28 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: would be nice, if you will send these results. |
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| 11:29 | <jordanm> | XeonBloomfield: this channel is publically logged. its best to atleast obfuscate your email in some way |
| 11:30 | <Sicelo> | prolly he doesn't mind :D |
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| 11:42 | <XeonBloomfield> | jordanm: It is publicly available email |
| 11:42 | <XeonBloomfield> | jordanm: also wrote on my site |
| 11:43 | <XeonBloomfield> | jordanm: http://xeonbloomfield.com/contact/ |
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| 12:21 | <Coudy> | hi, why is mdam still looking for /dev/md/0 ? the raid is on /dev/md0 , in grub.cfg is /dev/md/0 too |
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| 12:26 | <Coudy> | help, all day I'm trying to install debian on sw raid, now is installed, but during booto root is not mounted {/dev/md0 does not exist}, |
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| 12:26 | <Coudy> | when I end in console, cat /proc/modules don't show mdadm |
| 12:27 | <technologov__> | hi, my debian is dog-slow; some rogue process sucks all disk I/O. how to locate it ? |
| 12:27 | <DaVidoSS> | hi Community |
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| 12:29 | <DaVidoSS> | i need help steip by step witch installing mail server |
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| 12:32 | <rudi_s> | technologov__: iotop (as root) |
| 12:33 | <DaVidoSS> | anyone? i try to install my self but no lucky here |
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| 12:34 | <technologov__> | thx |
| 12:34 | <rudi_s> | np |
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| 12:37 | <Domovoy> | how do recreate a raid? i can find how to create it, but not how to destroy it |
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| 12:39 | <somebody_> | hi i have some difficulties using screen - seems like a bug in screen for me - http://nopaste.info/a940888e9f.html |
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| 12:41 | <somebody_> | anybody here? |
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| 12:42 | <technologov__> | y |
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| 12:44 | <jordanm> | somebody_: #screen on freenode |
| 12:45 | <somebody_> | thanks |
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| 12:47 | <rudi_s> | Domovoy: --zero-superblock should do it. |
| 12:48 | <iiu7> | What an absolute pain in the ass! I'm trying to setup a simple nntp server for LAN usage only. Any recommendations? I can't seem to find a good when in the Debian packages. inn2 and cyrus - no thanks! |
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| 12:51 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: are u here? |
| 12:51 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: right |
| 12:51 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: yeap |
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| 12:53 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: no vlan, no bonding.. on my note there is wifi-adapter and eth-adapter, on virtual pc machine i started debian 6.. the best way is bridging bridge on eth0/eth1 |
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| 12:54 | <Otkrick> | XeonBloomfield: bridge-utils, iptables2, dnsmasq and that's all |
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| 12:57 | <Domovoy> | rudi_s, thx |
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| 12:57 | <Otkrick_> | test |
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| 13:00 | <mc68040> | Otkrick: i prefer an additional bridge br0 with dummy0 interface for the virtual pcs and enable forwarding with nat to eth0/wlan0, dnsmasq can even work then as dhcp-server for the virtual pcs and uplink via wlan works smoothlessly bcs of nat |
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| 13:03 | <jose> | Hola buenas tardes |
| 13:03 | <jose> | es la primera vez que charlo por aquí, lo estoy probando |
| 13:03 | <jose> | hay alguien |
| 13:04 | <alex_> | jose, este canal es internacional, deberías considerar usar el inglés. // You should consider english as language |
| 13:04 | <XeonBloomfield> | Otkrick: good solution as well |
| 13:04 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: i agree with you |
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| 13:04 | <alex_> | #debian-es is the spanish equivalent |
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| 13:04 | <jose> | ok, alex thank for information |
| 13:05 | <alex_> | you're welcomed |
| 13:06 | <jose> | :-) |
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| 13:08 | <jose> | There's someone to chat? |
| 13:09 | <find_92> | i need help... my connection go down after starting trasmission |
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| 13:09 | <jose> | This is a little boring or do not understand |
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| 13:10 | <jose> | some Spanish? |
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| 13:11 | <mc68040> | find_92: nobody can help you with this information only... |
| 13:12 | <jose> | hello find_92 |
| 13:12 | <jose> | what's is your problem |
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| 13:13 | <jose> | I am new too |
| 13:13 | <find_92> | when i start trasmission |
| 13:13 | <find_92> | the connection go down after a while |
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| 13:13 | <find_92> | the icon wired on off disappeared |
| 13:14 | <find_92> | and i must restart the system |
| 13:14 | <find_92> | actually i'am on mint 12 |
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| 13:15 | <bouba> | hi hw are you |
| 13:15 | * | mc68040 !mint |
| 13:15 | <bouba> | what's up |
| 13:16 | <find_92> | it's based on ubuntu based on debianXD |
| 13:16 | <bouba> | yeahi know |
| 13:16 | <jose> | Well as help you, rare nose |
| 13:16 | <jose> | is a problem |
| 13:16 | <bouba> | no |
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| 13:17 | <jose> | you are using ubuntu |
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| 13:17 | <find_92> | mint12 |
| 13:18 | <jose> | oks |
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| 13:19 | <abrotman> | find_92: this channel is for Debian support |
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| 13:23 | <bouba> | help me to configure ma key wireless |
| 13:23 | <bouba> | olitec |
| 13:24 | <abrotman> | bouba: in what OS? |
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| 13:24 | <bouba> | to xubuntu 11.04 |
| 13:24 | <abrotman> | bouba: go to #xubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 13:24 | <abrotman> | Xubuntu is offtopic in this channel |
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| 13:29 | <bouba> | all right |
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| 13:54 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: have any ideas, how make 'nRouter' software on the KVM-machine side? http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/test654.php |
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| 13:57 | <mc68040> | Otkrick: basically you need policy based routing using ip rules and tables |
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| 13:58 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: what about virt. interface 192.168.0.1? how it can be create? |
| 13:58 | <Crowley2> | Hello. Does anybody here have a dead safe method to automatically bring up conky after autologin? So far every script or start-application entry failed (tried sleep from 2s to 60s etc. pp). Scripts work flawlessly when executed in a shell after login. Oh, and Debian Squeeze, Gnome/Compiz here. Any help is welcome |
| 13:59 | <mc68040> | Otkrick: you tried with dummy0 as interface? |
| 14:00 | <Otkrick> | oh, sorry.. not yet.. i'll read about it. thx |
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| 14:01 | <mc68040> | Otkrick: works like eth0, but has no physical interface associated, standard configuration in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:04 | <mc68040> | Otkrick: what is the purpose of this layout? only failover (high availibility) or load balancing on isp lines too? |
| 14:05 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: i'm tring to find way for balancing |
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| 14:06 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: or, no.. load balancing for internal work.. not for isp |
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| 14:08 | <mc68040> | Otkrick: hmmm... makes that sense when having only one virtual machine? i assume the virtual machine shall provide the services |
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| 14:11 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: it's example. several KVM nodes, several VMs |
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| 14:13 | <ana_> | instalare lubuntu |
| 14:14 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: ISP1 with port forwarding connected to VM1 (ISP1 is first MX), also for VM2 but it connected with ISP2 (for second MX).. |
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| 14:27 | <Otkrick> | mc68040: can you help me with my problem? i'm now changes routing tables |
| 14:27 | <mc68040> | Otkrick: why do you separate nRouter and KVM Machine? what kind of SAN you use? |
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| 14:32 | <wabi> | hihi... i guess, debian channel.. is one of the many..on irc.. with absolutely .. no girls :) |
| 14:33 | <abrotman> | wabi: do you need debian help ? |
| 14:34 | <wabi> | no, abrotman :) sorry.. this is a help channel on debian.. i know ;) |
| 14:34 | <abrotman> | wabi: please be quiet |
| 14:34 | <wabi> | yeah |
| 14:35 | <wabi> | :) |
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| 14:39 | <wabi> | oh.. or maybe.. do nee d some help.. on debian :) .. got a keyboard that types infrequently.. different characters.. that i did not "push" onto :).. on a hp dv-6000 :) |
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| 14:40 | <wabi> | pretty annoying |
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| 14:40 | <Otkrick> | http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/re77.php |
| 14:40 | <Otkrick> | sorry |
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| 14:41 | <wabi> | "double firewall" setup.. Otkrick ? |
| 14:44 | <Nik05> | hey guys, what is the best way to watch Mediaplayer video's in iceweasel? |
| 14:46 | <wabi> | to get a good hard on, by content, Nik05 ? lol |
| 14:46 | <Nik05> | huh |
| 14:46 | <Nik05> | ? |
| 14:47 | <wabi> | lol |
| 14:47 | <wabi> | just kidding |
| 14:47 | <Nik05> | no i need it to watch video's from the national television |
| 14:48 | <wabi> | which national television ? |
| 14:48 | <Nik05> | dutch |
| 14:49 | <wabi> | do dutch offer national television on the internet ? |
| 14:49 | <Nik05> | im not watching live, just old programs |
| 14:49 | <Nik05> | well im trying to watch them |
| 14:50 | <wabi> | well.. wats the "format" they offer to be played by you ? |
| 14:50 | <Nik05> | So do you know how i can get some Silverlight client or Media Player client working? |
| 14:50 | <Nik05> | wabi, Silverlight and wmv |
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| 14:51 | <wabi> | then go for microsoft.. install.. windows..and you are "ready to go for dutch television" ;) |
| 14:51 | <wabi> | Nik05, |
| 14:51 | <Nik05> | mozilla-plugin-vlc will that work? |
| 14:51 | <wabi> | gg |
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| 14:52 | <wabi> | in most cases..not, Nik05 |
| 14:52 | <Nik05> | I will write a letter to the dutch Minister that they should make there vids better available to non-windows users |
| 14:53 | <wabi> | do THAT |
| 14:53 | <wabi> | :) |
| 14:53 | <craigevil> | Nik05, yes or try totem-mozilla, either one should work, you can install Moonlight but it is a version or so behind Silverlight and may not work |
| 14:55 | <Nik05> | what about moonlight-plugin-mozilla ? |
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| 14:55 | <Nik05> | hum aptitude does not find that packages :S |
| 14:55 | <wabi> | get rid of that microsoft shit.. to see some "television" ;) |
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| 14:56 | <abrotman> | wabi: knock it off |
| 14:56 | -!- | claudio is now known as Guest23277 |
| 14:56 | <wabi> | why.. abrotman ? do you feel "offended" ? |
| 14:57 | <wabi> | gg |
| 14:57 | <Nik05> | damn last release of moonlight is 8 months ago... |
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| 14:57 | <abrotman> | wabi: because you're being annoying and completely unhelpful |
| 14:58 | <wabi> | abrotman, .. i am sorry.. this might be because i am german :) |
| 14:58 | <abrotman> | wabi: please go play somewhere else, thank you |
| 14:58 | <wabi> | hahaha |
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| 14:58 | <Nik05> | du arschlog! |
| 14:58 | <Nik05> | :D |
| 14:58 | <wabi> | "fast richtig" Nik05 :) |
| 14:59 | <Nik05> | no not richtig... :S |
| 14:59 | <Nik05> | nein nein nein |
| 14:59 | <@Ganneff> | stop it. now. |
| 14:59 | <abrotman> | english please |
| 14:59 | <wabi> | ;) Nik05 |
| 14:59 | <Nik05> | wabi offtopic chat? |
| 15:00 | <Nik05> | you are not in #debian-offtopic wabi .... |
| 15:00 | <Nik05> | or the other channels |
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| 15:01 | <wabi> | Nik05, .. uuuuuuh.. i did not notice that on debian.. there are so many "disbelieves on meanings" |
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| 15:01 | <wabi> | lol |
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| 15:02 | <Nik05> | huh? :S |
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| 15:10 | <Nik05> | damn vlc plugin is not working :( |
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| 15:13 | <Nik05> | yey i got it |
| 15:13 | <Nik05> | found out that on the site, there is also a way to play the video in flash :P |
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| 15:22 | <XeonBloomfield> | Hello |
| 15:22 | <XeonBloomfield> | Which command is used by Squeeze installer to make partition? |
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| 15:24 | <XeonBloomfield> | fdisk? |
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| 15:25 | <OpenTokix> | XeonBloomfield: parted irrc |
| 15:25 | <OpenTokix> | iirc |
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| 15:26 | <zeus> | Hi all, is there a specific way to ask debian developers to port a package ? |
| 15:26 | <XeonBloomfield> | OpenTokix: thx |
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| 15:27 | <rujar> | hi |
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| 16:19 | <Flugsauger> | hi |
| 16:20 | <Flugsauger> | wer programmiert eigentlich so ein müll ? |
| 16:20 | <Flugsauger> | ist das noch aus der steinzeit |
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| 16:21 | <Flugsauger> | ich will nicht programmieren lernen müssen um diesen channel zu verlassen |
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| 16:21 | <priv1> | hehe |
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| 16:42 | <jquazar> | to install Squeeze on my new ride I apparently need to acquire non-free rtl_nic/rtl8168e.rw and put it on a USB drive or something... I can handle the latter, but am not finding it... anyone help? |
| 16:42 | <jquazar> | no idea what to do with http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-realtek |
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| 16:46 | <jquazar> | OK how about this: I burned a netinst Squeeze installer, but it does not support my NIC so almost useless. Would I have better luck with a different .iso? |
| 16:47 | <jquazar> | I saw the part about non-free... I love Debian but not every minute of it :) |
| 16:48 | <jquazar> | or, maybe I plug in this old RTL8193C and see if it works any better? |
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| 16:59 | <derick_> | cannot set tick on /dev/rtc: permission denied. precise timer not available |
| 16:59 | <derick_> | audio stuff |
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| 16:59 | <derick_> | how do I change permissions? |
| 17:00 | <derick_> | this is the ubuntu way http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=system_configuration#hardware_timers |
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| 17:12 | <derick_> | ls -l /dev/rtc |
| 17:12 | <derick_> | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jan 7 2012 /dev/rtc -> rtc0 |
| 17:12 | <derick_> | $ ls -l /dev/rtc0 |
| 17:12 | <derick_> | crw-rw---T 1 root audio 254, 0 Jan 7 2012 /dev/rtc0 |
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| 17:12 | <derick_> | /etc/udev/rules.d$ cat 40-timer-permissions.rules |
| 17:12 | <derick_> | KERNEL=="rtc0", GROUP="audio" |
| 17:12 | <derick_> | KERNEL=="hpet", GROUP="audio" |
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| 17:13 | <abrotman> | derick_: is your user in the audio group ? |
| 17:13 | <derick_> | abrotman, yep |
| 17:14 | <abrotman> | did you login/logout ? |
| 17:14 | <derick_> | abrotman, yep |
| 17:14 | <abrotman> | erm ... logout/login |
| 17:14 | <abrotman> | so if you type 'groups' ... audio shows up? |
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| 17:14 | <derick_> | yes |
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| 17:14 | <abrotman> | derick_: oh .. it's a kernel issue .. you don't have that compiled in |
| 17:14 | <abrotman> | game servers .. yay |
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| 17:15 | <derick_> | $ uname -a |
| 17:15 | <derick_> | Linux debian 3.1.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 23 16:37:11 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 17:15 | <abrotman> | yeah .. and? |
| 17:16 | <abrotman> | there's a kernel option that has to be set to get what you're after .. generally Debian doesn't set it |
| 17:16 | <derick_> | oh I should load the module? |
| 17:16 | <derick_> | is that possible with modprobe? |
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| 17:20 | <derick_> | abrotman, ? |
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| 17:27 | <abrotman> | it's a compile time option AFAIK |
| 17:28 | <derick_> | ok, I'll try another kernel |
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| 17:28 | <abrotman> | must be an awesome game |
| 17:28 | <derick_> | it' s for audio / midi |
| 17:29 | <abrotman> | perhaps you should look at a distro more geared toward real-time stuff |
| 17:29 | <derick_> | that's an option yes, avlinux, tango studio |
| 17:29 | <derick_> | but there are RT kernels for Debian also |
| 17:30 | <abrotman> | not official kernels |
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| 17:31 | <derick_> | no, it's time that lowlatency kernels hits debian |
| 17:31 | <derick_> | no patch needed anymore |
| 17:31 | <abrotman> | file a bug |
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| 17:32 | * | derick_ reboot |
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| 17:42 | <iiu7> | Anyone with experience in setting up INN2? I have successfully set it up in a LAN and it's working alright both posting and reading, but I can't upload any binaries. Does it require any kind of "allow binaries" setup? |
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| 17:44 | <iiu7> | I get "WARNING: unexpected server response: 401 MODE-READER" from the clients when trying to post. |
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| 17:54 | <Remy> | Hello? |
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| 17:56 | <ompaul> | Remy: please ask your debian question, including things like "I'm running version X want Y to happen, but Z does" etc |
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| 18:00 | <Remy> | oh okay. Lol. I didn't see any chat activity in the channel so I thought everyone was like afk. =P Ahem. I came to the Debian servers because the #ubuntu-dev channel was empty. I am looking for a Python interpreting program similar to PyScripter on Windows for Linux users. Am I in the wrong channel? I thought perhaps I'd ought to ask some developers this question. |
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| 18:05 | <abrotman> | maybe you'd ask #python on freenode ? |
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| 18:11 | <abrotman> | whoa .. was that jello the DD ? |
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| 18:13 | <Remy> | okay, will do! thanks, abrotman. |
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| 18:27 | <joan> | hi, does anybody understand bash? It's a newbie question: can anyone explain to me these errors? http://pastebin.com/7iK1bRu2 |
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| 18:34 | <chanus1986> | hello! |
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| 18:35 | <chanus1986> | ?? |
| 18:35 | <abrotman> | joa |
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| 18:37 | <yznou> | joan: i can run this script without errors .. (except, that bash doesnt find the pdf ;) ) |
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| 18:43 | <joan> | yznou, my errors: http://pastebin.com/rYpwH2mA it's damned weird... |
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| 18:48 | <yznou> | joan: are you sure that you are calling bash? |
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| 18:50 | <joan> | yznou, I write this at the command line: /bin/bash ./convert.sh 05.Kalt_erwischt_in_Hamburg.pdf |
| 18:50 | <joan> | or this: sh ./convert.sh 05.Kalt_erwischt_in_Hamburg.pdf |
| 18:50 | <joan> | and I get the errors |
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| 19:04 | <jordanm> | joan: /bin/sh is not bash, which is the shebang of the file |
| 19:05 | <jordanm> | joan: line 6 is an empty line. is there actually a \r in your file? |
| 19:05 | <jordanm> | joan: run dos2unix on the script |
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| 19:06 | <jordanm> | joan: and if you are using bash and not sh, use for ((i=1;i<$PAGES;i++); do |
| 19:07 | <joan> | ok, thank you very much jordanm |
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| 19:48 | <henson> | What's the proper way to change which services start at boot? |
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| 19:50 | <simonlnu> | update-rc.d, rcconf, are best |
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| 19:51 | <tuhats> | How should I go about setting up my sound so I can control volume of each application seperately? Can I do it with just ALSA or would it be best to do it with something like pulse audio? |
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| 19:52 | <henson> | simonlnu, neither are included in base install? That's kind of weird, right? Or is it because things just work best with the appropriate services on? |
| 19:52 | <simonlnu> | pa does the per app thing better. alsa can, but i think it would require quite a bit of hand configuring. |
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| 19:52 | <simonlnu> | henson: rcconf isn't update-rc.d is |
| 19:53 | <tuhats> | simonlnu: thanks |
| 19:54 | <simonlnu> | you might want jackd instead. it does certain things better. though it's more suited to editing and recording. |
| 19:54 | <henson> | simonlnu, whoops, you're right! (of course) Wasn't trying to run it with sudo |
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| 19:58 | <iiu7> | Where the hell is the "mknewsgroups" script that normally follows cyrus22-nntpd!? |
| 19:58 | <simonlnu> | apt-file search mknewsgroups |
| 20:00 | <iiu7> | Like I said, where the hell is the "mknewsgroups" script that normally follows cyrus22-nntpd!? |
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| 20:02 | <simonlnu> | ask the maintainers |
| 20:02 | <iiu7> | It's just plain dumb and stupid to remove essential parts of an application. |
| 20:03 | <simonlnu> | yes, and we're neither counselling nor the bts here |
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| 20:06 | <iiu7> | maybe you're wrong |
| 20:07 | <simonlnu> | what does it matter? :) |
| 20:07 | <iiu7> | I wish I knew :) |
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| 20:09 | <simonlnu> | iiu7: i can understand the feeling completely, but we can't help with that. i'm completely serious when you need to ask the packagers. |
| 20:09 | <iiu7> | simonlnu, I know.. |
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| 20:16 | <Crowley2> | Hello. Does anybody here have a dead safe method to automatically bring up conky after autologin? So far every script or start-application entry failed (tried sleep from 2s to 60s etc. pp). Scripts work flawlessly when executed in a shell after login. Oh, and Debian Squeeze, Gnome/Compiz here. Any help is welcome. |
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| 20:31 | <jquazar> | Hello. Does anyone have any method at all to /etc/init.d/whatever a daemon run under `screen` such at it'll always be there to attach to? |
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| 20:34 | <continuum> | is there a way to run the debian installer on a system that has already had debian installed? |
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| 20:35 | <continuum> | anybody? |
| 20:35 | <chealer> | continuum: yes |
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| 20:56 | <xun> | Hi, Im trying to search for all packages with the tag use::timekeeping but I do not success, "aptitude search '~G.*time.*'" yields no results, any hints? |
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| 20:58 | <babilen> | xun: Use debtags |
| 20:58 | <pressd> | Hi |
| 20:59 | <xun> | babilen, yes, thats what Im trying to do, how? |
| 21:00 | <babilen> | xun: Well, install it, read "man debtags" and run "debtags search use::timekeeping" |
| 21:00 | <pressd> | I just installed the latest debian with the gui and now I'm trying to setup sudo, I can't login as root using the login screen so how do I configure it? |
| 21:00 | <xun> | oh, didnt realise it was a program, thanks |
| 21:01 | <babilen> | xun: You are welcome |
| 21:01 | <babilen> | pressd: Why can't you login as root/acquire superuser privileges? |
| 21:02 | <pressd> | it says authentication failure and when I googled that I found some results that say logging in as root is disabled |
| 21:02 | <babilen> | pressd: Did you set the root password during the installation? Can you become root when you enter that password after running "su -" ? |
| 21:03 | <pressd> | yeah I did set it during install and the pw does work after su - |
| 21:04 | <babilen> | pressd: Ok, so what is your problem? |
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| 21:05 | <babilen> | pressd: I guess the easiest way to configure and use sudo is to add your user to the "sudo" group (adduser USER sudo) and relogin, unless you want anything fancy. If so read "man 5 sudoers" |
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| 21:07 | <pressd> | ok thanks babilen |
| 21:07 | <babilen> | np |
| 21:07 | <pressd> | that worked now I used su - |
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| 22:14 | <wellys> | Hello |
| 22:14 | <wellys> | I have a new install of squeeze with the gui installed and have connected a USB wifi dongle, when I run lsusb it is listed with the correct name but when i run ifconfig it is not listed -- so I assume it is missing drivers |
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| 22:15 | <wellys> | I have tried apt-get install firmware-realtek but I get a unable to locate package error |
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| 22:16 | <wellys> | how do I install firmware-realtek? it is listed on http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-realtek |
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| 22:20 | <BigRedS> | wellys: apt-get install firmware-realtek |
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| 22:21 | <wellys> | BigRedS: I get unable to locate package |
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| 22:24 | <BigRedS> | wellys: you'll need to enable the non-free repository first |
| 22:25 | <BigRedS> | basically, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the non-free lines. Or, add 'non-free' to the list of an already-uncommented line |
| 22:26 | <BigRedS> | er |
| 22:26 | <BigRedS> | http://serverfault.com/questions/240920/how-do-i-enable-non-free-packages-on-debian |
| 22:26 | <BigRedS> | is probably best |
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| 22:40 | <wellys> | ok thanks guys, got it installed |
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| 22:40 | <Fighter747> | I really don't know where to begin with Debian |
| 22:41 | <Fighter747> | I have it installed and am just messing with some basic commands |
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| 22:44 | <Fighter747> | how do you connect to the internet with just the shell? |
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| 22:44 | <simonlnu> | continue messing with it? but be careful ;). depends on your network set up. |
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| 22:45 | <Fighter747> | well, is it possible to use, say, firefox or internet explorer while in shell |
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| 22:47 | <matoc> | Fighter747: from a command prompt you mean? |
| 22:47 | <Fighter747> | yes |
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| 22:48 | <matoc> | I use lyxn to surf the web. ;) |
| 22:48 | <auinnz> | how do I know when the drivers for my usb wifi are installed? will it appear in the 'ifconfig' list? |
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| 22:49 | <matoc> | auinnz: you'll have to bring it up first: ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 22:49 | <matoc> | or some such command |
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| 22:49 | <auinnz> | oh ok |
| 22:49 | <auinnz> | I have the gui installed |
| 22:49 | <matoc> | oh :P |
| 22:49 | <auinnz> | where can I see a list of my usb devices (e.g. like device manager in windows) |
| 22:49 | <matoc> | which gui? |
| 22:50 | <auinnz> | the default one that comes on the squeeze dvd |
| 22:50 | <auinnz> | gnone |
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| 22:50 | <Fighter747> | D: |
| 22:51 | <iiu7> | I have used "apt-get --purge remove package" to remove a package, afterward apt complained about not remove a dir because it wasn't empty so I removed it manually. Later I reinstalled the package, but now apt doesn't install those files I manually removed. First off: I though purge meant "remove all", but how do I get apt to install a clean install? |
| 22:51 | <iiu7> | I have tried using --reinstall to no avail. |
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| 22:51 | <matoc> | auinnz: System -> Preferences -> Netowrk Connections |
| 22:51 | <matoc> | auinnz: from the top menu. |
| 22:52 | <matoc> | iiu7: sounds like you might have a permission problem on the directory or it's parent directory. |
| 22:52 | <iiu7> | I see no permission complaints.. |
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| 22:54 | <auinnz> | thanks matoc; the wireless tab doesn't have my usb adapter listed so i guess it's not installed correctly |
| 22:54 | <matoc> | auinnz: wireless cards often have propritary drivers that are a pain to deal with. |
| 22:55 | <matoc> | auinnz: *usb wireless cards |
| 22:55 | <matoc> | iiu7: what package are you doing this with? |
| 22:55 | <auinnz> | yeah this card should work, I found a thread that said in the latest ubuntu it works as soon as firmware-realtek is installed and you restart so I was hoping same would be for debian |
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| 22:56 | <auinnz> | one suggestion in the thread was "install the metapackage of the kernel headers" -- what would I do to achieve this? |
| 22:58 | <iiu7> | matoc, what's the difference? |
| 22:58 | <matoc> | auinnz: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:58 | <matoc> | auinnz: in a terminal window as root |
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| 22:59 | <auinnz> | matoc: thanks, just ran that and it had 0 to install/update so I guess I already have latest |
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| 23:00 | <Fighter747> | what is apt-get exactly? |
| 23:00 | <matoc> | iiu7: just wondering what configuration files the package might be using. |
| 23:00 | <iiu7> | matoc, I can't see how that's relevant to a solution, sorry. |
| 23:00 | <matoc> | Fighter747: apt-get is the debian package manager |
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| 23:01 | <Fighter747> | does it connect to a debian package server? |
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| 23:03 | <matoc> | Fighter747: yup. the one(s) listed in /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 23:03 | <Fighter747> | hm |
| 23:04 | <Fighter747> | how do I look at the source list? |
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| 23:06 | <matoc> | Fighter747: you can use an editor like nano or vim, or you can just output it to the scree: cat /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 23:08 | <Fighter747> | deb cdrom: [Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20111008-19:52]/ squeeze main |
| 23:08 | <Fighter747> | not sure what that means |
| 23:09 | <auinnz> | hm still can't get this usb wifi working... guess I'll have to go to ubuntu |
| 23:10 | <auinnz> | "On Ubuntu 11.10, Linux 3.0.0-14-generic, the Belkin n300 works out of the box." -- is there any way to upgrade my debian install to 3.0.0-14? |
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| 23:11 | <matoc> | Fighter747: that means it's still using the installation CDROM to get packages. you need to change this (if you have internet) to one of the many debian mirrors, probably one close to where you are. |
| 23:12 | <Fighter747> | how do I change it? |
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| 23:14 | <matoc> | auinnz: yes, you can install it from testing instead of stable.(at least I think it's in testing... |
| 23:14 | <auinnz> | matoc; do you know the command? |
| 23:15 | <matoc> | Fighter747: you need to use an editor as root user: nano /etc/apt/source.list |
| 23:15 | <matoc> | auinnz: it might involve changing your source.list. Give me a minute, I'll get back to you. |
| 23:16 | <Fighter747> | what do you change in the file? |
| 23:16 | <Fighter747> | deb ftp.debian.org? |
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| 23:21 | <Fighter747> | ? |
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| 23:22 | <matoc> | Fighter747: I've got these lines in mine: deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/debian squeeze main |
| 23:22 | <matoc> | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 23:22 | <matoc> | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 23:22 | <matoc> | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 23:22 | <Fighter747> | how do you copy paste lines to the window? |
| 23:22 | <matoc> | Fighter747: note that I'm using waterloo.ca mirrors, you may want something differnt. |
| 23:22 | <sney> | auinnz: http://backports.debian.org/ has 2.6.39, which contains many of the same updates as 3.0.0. that should be a fine solution for you and you don't have to try mixing testing with stable |
| 23:22 | <sney> | !paste |
| 23:22 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 23:23 | <matoc> | Fighter747: if you don't have a gui, you may be stuck typing it out. |
| 23:24 | <sney> | !pastebinit |
| 23:24 | <dpkg> | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <nopaste>. |
| 23:24 | <Fighter747> | ah |
| 23:24 | <sney> | but don't paste anything to the irc window, more than 4 lines will get you kicked from the channel |
| 23:25 | <auinnz> | ok ill give that a go |
| 23:25 | <matoc> | auinnz: looks like it's probably not a good idea to just upgrade the kernel. I would recommend using Debain Testing. That is achieved by editing you source.list line and change "stable" to "testing". |
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| 23:25 | <sney> | matoc: testing is a _very_ bumpy ride right now and should not be recommended to new debian users. |
| 23:26 | <Fighter747> | what's ^Y, ^V, etc. in the editor? |
| 23:26 | <sney> | the ^ usually stands for the CTRL key |
| 23:26 | <matoc> | sney: it's either that or ubuntu for our friend. |
| 23:26 | <Fighter747> | oh |
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| 23:26 | <sney> | matoc: not if the backport kernel works. he's going to try that. 2.6.39 and 3.0.0 are barely different; 3.0.0 is just 2.6.40 renamed |
| 23:27 | <matoc> | sney: well there you go :) he's looking for the command needed to get his kernel updated. |
| 23:28 | <matoc> | sney: I didn't realize it was in backports. |
| 23:28 | <Fighter747> | wow |
| 23:28 | <auinnz> | which backport packages should I install? |
| 23:28 | <Fighter747> | so by putting those lines of code into sources.list, it automatically installs packages? |
| 23:28 | <sney> | auinnz: 32-bit or 64-bit? |
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| 23:29 | <sney> | Fighter747: not exactly, it gives the package manager a place to find packages. you still have to do the installing yourself, with apt-get or synaptic or whatever |
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| 23:29 | <Fighter747> | oh |
| 23:29 | <Fighter747> | yeah |
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| 23:30 | <sney> | auinnz: if you don't remember you can check by running uname -m |
| 23:30 | <Fighter747> | typed in "apt-get install aptitude tasksel" then I typed in "tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install" |
| 23:30 | <Fighter747> | now I get a "Media Change" |
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| 23:30 | <sney> | matoc: the 'judd' bot's versions and kernels commands are really useful. try /msg judd kernels |
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| 23:31 | <auinnz> | 32bit |
| 23:31 | <matoc> | Fighter747: you need to first run: apt-get update |
| 23:31 | <Fighter747> | It says "/media/cdrom/:Please insert the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 201111008-19:52' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter." |
| 23:31 | <sney> | Fighter747: you'll want to put a # in front of the line for your install cd or it'll keep checking for it |
| 23:31 | <sney> | Fighter747: or delete the line |
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| 23:31 | <auinnz> | oh acutally, 64bit, 686 |
| 23:31 | <Fighter747> | how do I exit the installer? ^Z not working |
| 23:31 | <sney> | auinnz: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:32 | <sney> | ^C will get you out of most debconf windows. sometimes you need to hit it twice. |
| 23:32 | <Fighter747> | just tries to keep looking for it |
| 23:33 | <Fighter747> | doesn't do anything, unfortunately |
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| 23:33 | <sney> | well, you can also switch terminals (alt-f2) and kill the running process from there |
| 23:33 | <matoc> | auinnz, sney: are you looking for kernel 3.0? |
| 23:34 | <sney> | matoc: I'm not, and auinnz is going to try 2.6.39 first to see if that works with the wifi device |
| 23:34 | <matoc> | ah, right, they're barely different... |
| 23:34 | <sney> | (I'm on 3.1 because I am using testing, but I wouldn't recommend it for someone inexperienced) |
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| 23:35 | <Fighter747> | how do I look for the PID of the first terminal? |
| 23:35 | <Fighter747> | of that installe |
| 23:35 | <Fighter747> | installer* |
| 23:35 | <sney> | ps aux or top will show you the running processes |
| 23:35 | <sney> | and it'll be tasksel, or dpkg |
| 23:36 | <matoc> | Fighter747: I usually use ps -s if you just want process ID and process name. |
| 23:36 | <matoc> | less to look at tha ps -aux... |
| 23:36 | <auinnz> | thanks sney it's installing now |
| 23:36 | <Fighter747> | yeah |
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| 23:36 | <auinnz> | 2.6 |
| 23:36 | <Fighter747> | I just did ps a |
| 23:37 | <sney> | old muscle memory command, that |
| 23:37 | <auinnz> | to see if my usb wifi is picked up, should I just restart after the install? |
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| 23:38 | <sney> | auinnz: yeah, grub will show you the new kernel to choose on boot |
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| 23:39 | <jason_> | help somebody? |
| 23:39 | <jason_> | doing:: a compile make |
| 23:39 | <Fighter747> | so I tried tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install again |
| 23:40 | <Fighter747> | now it says "tasksel: aptitude failed (255)" |
| 23:40 | <jason_> | question: in building I want to ether do a cross compile for mips-unknown-linux-gnu or use qemu? |
| 23:40 | <jason_> | currently I was** running qemu overnight.... to poor results, I didnt make it past the checking for libaries! |
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| 23:42 | <sney> | jason_: well, I'm not sure what your real question is, but if you want the code to run natively on your mips system and your build system is not mips, then you do want to cross compile. it's a chore though. |
| 23:42 | <sney> | Fighter747: I wasn't here for the beginning of your issue. what's wrong with 'aptitude install gnome'? |
| 23:43 | <Fighter747> | so I tried tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install again |
| 23:43 | <Fighter747> | now it says "tasksel: aptitude failed (255)" |
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| 23:43 | <Fighter747> | after doing the apt-get update |
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| 23:45 | <matoc> | Fighter747: maybe you should try what sney sugest and just do: apt-get install gnome |
| 23:46 | <Fighter747> | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 23:46 | <matoc> | Fighter747: that basically the same as using tasksel to install the gnome-dekstop |
| 23:46 | <Fighter747> | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 23:46 | <matoc> | Fighter747: that means there is an other process updating or installing something. |
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| 23:47 | <matoc> | Fighter747: maybe you should reboot so that other process is properly killed... |
| 23:47 | <Fighter747> | what's the quickest way to reset a linux system? |
| 23:48 | <matoc> | reboot |
| 23:48 | <matoc> | as root |
| 23:48 | <Fighter747> | ohhh |
| 23:48 | <matoc> | :) |
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| 23:48 | <matoc> | I use to use shutdown -r now, but that took longer to type :) |
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| 23:58 | <deansu> | does anyone know if openssh on squeeze supports Match in ssh_config? the manpage doesn't mention it, nor does anything in /usr/share/doc/ssh/ in any serious way (ie removed/disabled) and I get an error using it in /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 23:59 | <sney> | that sounds like a no, then |
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