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---Logopened Sun Jan 08 00:00:14 2012
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00:00<deansu>it is of a high enough version to have it, would have thought if it was disabled by choice (during build) it would have been noted in doc/ssh :\
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00:26<deansu>ugh. was editing the wrong file.
00:27<Fighter747>so I finally managed to install gnome desktop, but how do I get to it on the command line?
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00:29<deansu>startx I believe
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00:31<Fighter747>typed it in bash, command not found
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00:34<abdulkarim>my laptop (Acer5745G i5/430m GT330m 4GB 500GB) runs at 70C when idle, unlike Windows where its <40 when idle! :( :(
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00:39<continuum>abdulkarim: what window manager are you running?
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00:43<abdulkarim>continuum: gdm3
00:43<continuum>abdulkarim: gnome3?
00:43<abdulkarim>continuum: yes
00:44<abdulkarim>but the temperature is quite the same in fluxbox as well
00:44<Fighter747>so I finally managed to install gnome desktop, but how do I get to it on the command line?
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00:44<continuum>abdulkarim: my laptop sounds like a jet engine when I run gnome3, it's quite a few years old tho
00:45<abdulkarim>continuum: yeah the fan never stops on my laptop too!
00:45<continuum>abdulkarim: it's much better when I run the gnome-classic session. right now i'm trying out wmii
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00:46<abdulkarim>continuum: i used gnome-classic for a couple of days but no use :(
00:46<todo1991>co ai khong?
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00:46<continuum>abdulkarim: what cpu does it have?
00:46<deansu>Fighter747: do you have the xinit package installed?
00:46<abdulkarim>the fan starts off right from GRUB menu and never stops :( :(
00:46<abdulkarim>i5 430m
00:46<Fighter747>not sure
00:46<abdulkarim>continuum: ^
00:47<Fighter747>how would I check?
00:47<deansu>Fighter747: dpkg -l xinit
00:47<Fighter747>No packages found matching xinit.
00:47<continuum>abdulkarim: hmm yeah i dunno why have you looked at top to see whats eating your cpu's lunch?
00:47<Fighter747>i am guessing I do apt-get install xinit?
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00:48<deansu>Fighter747: yes
00:48<abdulkarim>continuum: yes, and surprisingly NOTHING is eating my CPU its less than 5% but still the temperature won't fall down!
00:49<Fighter747>Package xinit is not available, but is referred to by another package.
00:49<Fighter747>This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
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00:49<continuum>abdulkarim: have you tried live cds for other distros? Is it debian specific?
00:50<abdulkarim>continuum: i've tried Fedora and Ubuntu and all have same problem
00:50<Fighter747>I am guessing it has something to do with my sources.list, deansu?
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00:51<deansu>Fighter747: sounds like it, yes, does apt-get update work?
00:51<continuum>abdulkarim: I'd try to find help on a forum or mailing list. You could try openBSD also and see if it happens with that too ;)
00:51<abdulkarim>i've tried passing kernel arguements like "pcie_aspm=force" but it didn't help too!
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00:52<Fighter747>my main(?) mirror doesn't work
00:52<Fighter747>deb squeeze main
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00:53<continuum>abdulkarim: i'd post on a few forums, debian forums, linuxquestions, ubuntu forums, mailing lists. see if you can get an answer. I'd be frustrated too...
00:54<abdulkarim>continuum: i've posted it on maybe i'll need to try some other mailing lists too... anyways thanks for your time :)
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00:54<jasonsmr>hello again, about that mips-unknown-gcc compile, I have to do it in the qemu, as my actual prototyped machine is on backorder,,,, what could** I do to speed up the ./configure and make and make install ??
00:54<jasonsmr>from within qemu?
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01:13<deansu>Fighter747: did you fix your mirror? if not, change to
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01:19<abdulkarim>is 500 wakeups/second normal for an idle i5 system?
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01:32<m12>hey people!
01:34<m12>maybe somebody can help me. im trying to retrieve a url with wget/curl. here's what i do:
01:34<m12>http_proxy= curl -o dan1.out ''
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01:35<m12>but for some unknown reason im not able to get the correct content .. which should be around 52583 bytes long ..
01:35<m12>also tried -A ..
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01:36<m12>proxy is working
01:36<m12>price-question: somebody able to get this working?
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01:38<judgen>what is the name of the debian ppc channel?
01:39<retro|blah>m12: What happens if you remove the proxy from the equation and just curl that url directly?
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01:40<retro|blah>Trying to see if that page loads in a text browser
01:40<m12>ahm .. i think i tried so much that my ip is banned .. but the proxy works in the browser to..
01:41<retro|blah>If I load that url in elinks I get "Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /var/www/vhosts/ on line 401"
01:41<retro|blah>Which is the same thing I get from curling it
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01:43<m12_>same without proxy
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01:43<m12_>yes ..
01:43<m12_>but if you open in iceweasel it works.? ..
01:43<m12_>4 me it does
01:44<retro|blah>Sounds like a bug with the website.
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01:45<m12_>definitly .. but if the browser can do it .. curl must can do it..
01:46<m12_>maybe an encoding problem..
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01:51<m12_>or a http header problem
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01:54<m12_>yeah .. ;)
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02:07<Fighter747>sorry I didn't reply, but I changed it to
02:07<Fighter747>or something to that
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02:08<deansu>Fighter747: did that fix everything?
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02:08<Fighter747>i think so
02:08<Fighter747>I can use startx
02:09<deansu>good stuff
02:09<Fighter747>it puts me into a terminal
02:09<Fighter747>tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install
02:09<Fighter747>i got a cursor and all, but I can't copy paste
02:10<deansu>I would make sure that everything got installed for gnome
02:10<deansu>unless you really want to start into a console and start X/gnome seperately, I would install gdm as well
02:12<deansu>gnome display manager
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02:12<Fighter747>apt-get gnome-display-manager?
02:12<deansu>apt-get install gdm
02:13<Fighter747>what's the diff between apt-get install gdm and apt-get gdm
02:13<deansu>apt-get gdm doesn't work :)
02:15<Fighter747>i think i get it
02:15<Fighter747>i have it installed now
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02:17<continuum>i can't seem to install the flashplugin-nonfree package even though I have the non-free branch in my sources.list, anybody???
02:17<Fighter747>did "startx" again and I am back to a terminal interface
02:17<Fighter747>is there a way to show a list of commands you can type?
02:17<deansu>Fighter747: try as root /etc/init.d/gdm start
02:18<deansu>there are alot of commands so it depends what you want to do
02:18<deansu>continuum: do you get an error?
02:18<Fighter747>ohhh, neat, thanks deansu
02:18<continuum>i get the package missing / obsolete message
02:19<Fighter747>i got a nice GUI, but when I log in as a user account, i go into the terminal again lol
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02:19<deansu>Fighter747: thats not quite right, try apt-get install gnome
02:20<Fighter747>trying to get back into my root account
02:20<deansu>continuum: could you paste the single line from sources.list with your non-free added?
02:21<Fighter747>it's booting me into the debian welcome screen
02:21<deansu>Fighter747: ctrl-alt-F1 through F6 I think
02:21<Fighter747>oh ok
02:22<Fighter747>nice, it's installing
02:22<Fighter747>I think it's because I haven't made my sources.list properly before I did apt-get install gnome
02:23<continuum>deansu: deb wheezy main non-free
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02:24<deansu>Fighter747: I think that server you were pointing to was old or buggy
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02:25<deansu>continuum: change to ftp.xx.debian where xx is your country code ie .us, .ca ,.uk etc
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02:26<deansu> *
02:27<continuum>deansu: so my debian mirror is missing the package
02:27<continuum>deansu: ?
02:27<deansu>continuum: I suspect so, but you may be about to fid out :)
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02:31<continuum>deansu: my bad, flashplugin-nonfree is in contrib, not non-free, i assumed it was in non free, added contrib, fixed, thanks
02:31<deansu>continuum: aha, sneaky
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03:39<Fighter747>I have installed a desktop environment in debian, and pressed ctrl + alt + f1 to go into command line
03:39<Fighter747>how do I go back into the desktop environment?
03:39<dtw>Fighter747, Alt+F7 or F8
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03:42<Fighter747>ah I see
03:42<Fighter747>going into command line is just another instance
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04:41<kanmen>is there anyone there?
04:42<dtw>kanmen, /names
04:42<kanmen>@dtw thanks..
04:43<kanmen>I've got a problem with my new restart button.. it doesn't reboot the computer...
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04:44<kanmen>in login screen.. restart button just reload debian..
04:46<kanmen>so whenever i need to reboot the computer, i must shutdown and turn it on again
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04:47<kanmen>is that behavior right in this distro?
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04:49<kanmen>that's annoying.. is there any way to set it up?
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04:51<kanmen>I've been searching the www for a solution...
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04:53<simonlnu>you might need acpid installed
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05:08<kanmen>@simonlnu I've just installed that package.. I'm trying right away brb :)
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05:12<kanmen>@simonlnu ummh nope.. it did not work and actually something happened with compiz.. I cannot see the tittle bar of windos
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05:14<kanmen>I had to reload the window manager.. well maybe that had something to do with previous configurations I did to it
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05:17<kanmen>Just wondering if I can change the settings for restart button using any tool like Configuration Editor
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05:19<kanmen>I do want to reinstall the entire system just because the RESTART button doesn't work
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05:32<kanmen>hi there.. is anyone awake?
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05:38<boat>anyone up for a mount-of-root-fs-with-noatime-option question?
05:39<kanmen>most of ppl are asleep i think
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05:41<kanmen>@boat< you should ask you question..
05:42<boat>I want to mount my root fs with noatime option, and gave so indicated in fstab, however after bootup when I run mount it reports that root is mounted with only rw option
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05:45<kanmen>i dunno mate and ppl here are too quite.. good look dude
05:45<johfel>boat: "The first line in /proc/mounts "rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
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05:47<johfel>boat: is just a dummy entry. For the real mount parametes look at the entry for your partition.
05:50<johfel>boat: sorry, you said that you used "mount" to display the mount parameters. Are the flags displayed by "cat /proc/mounts" correct?
05:52<johfel>boat: and can you pastebin your /etc/fstab, please?
05:53<boat>wow, thx for all the info - give me a sec but it looks like /proc/mounts has correct options so I might have no worries!
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06:32<boat>yup, my root fs in /proc/mounts (id'd by its UUID) shows the noatime parm - might you know why mount doesn't?
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07:05<arinov>how to change default language in debian?
07:05<arinov>system language
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07:12<XeonBloomfield>How to mount /dev/sdc1 as swap?
07:13<XeonBloomfield>With higher priority than /dev/md9
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07:15<XeonBloomfield>Filename Type Size Used Priority
07:15<XeonBloomfield>/dev/md9 partition 7822260 0 -1
07:15<XeonBloomfield>/dev/sdc1 partition 1984208 0 20
07:15<XeonBloomfield>What means "-1"?
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07:17<XeonBloomfield>isithran: "20" is used first
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07:18<XeonBloomfield>isithran: thx for link
07:19<isithran>XeonBloomfield not if the priority is unsigned
07:19<XeonBloomfield>isithran: "Since -1 is a higher number than -2"
07:19<XeonBloomfield>isithran: quote from that link
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07:20<XeonBloomfield>isithran: I used SD flash card as SWAP ;) because it is faster than HDD in access time
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07:28<isithran>I'm planning on enabling the AHCI mode for my SATA Controller (after having installed Debian Wheezy). Are there any precaution to take about GRUB? (For the debian part it's ok: add "ahci" in modules to load at startup, update the* initramfs consequently and it should work). My chipset is an Intel Express H67
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07:38<srikanth>where are you from
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07:39<alibungker>you now aceh ?
07:39<srikanth>ali: which part of the world is that?
07:40<srikanth>ok which linux are u using
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07:40<alibungker>i m using debian now
07:40<alibungker>debian squeeze
07:41<alibungker>where are you form srikanth
07:41<srikanth>from India
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07:41<alibungker>yes i now india
07:41<alibungker>i like film india
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07:43<alibungker>srikanth: which linux u using ?
07:44<srikanth>i am using linux mint
07:44<srikanth>it's very nice . i have installed it just now
07:45<srikanth>it's more better than ubuntu and opensuse which are too on my system
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07:54<zdingxiaomei>archlinux ,what about it?
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07:57<zdingxiaomei>archlinux ,what about it?
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07:57<heikkila>zdingxiaomei, #archlinux at Freenode
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08:06<zdingxiaomei>if i talk to you ,how do i to do?
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08:43<XeonBloomfield>How to set "noatime" in Debian Installer?
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08:43<wrek-gar>quick question -
08:44<XeonBloomfield>wrek-gar: it is placing find output in place of {}
08:44<XeonBloomfield>wrek-gar: rest is rather optional
08:45<wrek-gar>XeonBloomfield: ok
08:45<XeonBloomfield>wrek-gar: or no... it is placing all files to 1 shred
08:45<babilen>XeonBloomfield: You can set it in the partitioning dialogue
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08:45<XeonBloomfield>wrek-gar: without \; it is turning on shred for every file, not all at once
08:45<XeonBloomfield>babilen: I will check it on VM, thx - I have seen it in Debian Installer GUI, but not CLI yet
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08:52<XeonBloomfield>babilen: you say that it is available for each partition? :P
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08:53<XeonBloomfield>babilen: ok, I've got it
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09:13<mekt>Is there a way to have 'apt-get install' not install packages recommended by the package you wish to install?
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10:00<isithran>I'm planning on enabling the AHCI mode for my SATA Controller (after having installed Debian Wheezy). Are there any precaution to take about GRUB? (For the debian part it's ok: add "ahci" in modules to load at startup, update the* initramfs consequently and it should work). My chipset is an Intel Express H67
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10:03<devil>i had no problems at all with ahci and H67
10:04<isithran>@devil: is there anything to do before?
10:05<devil>isithran: this was a new build, so i enabled it before installing anything. worked ootb
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10:25<shevek>I need to read some mail which is sent to my address, but I suspect it's being rejected. Is there a way I can read it anyway? I can make it resend the mail, but I cannot change the target address.
10:26<yashwant>my debian linux is giving kernal failure is any one have solution of kernal failure.
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10:28<daemonkeeper>shevek: You "" email address? That's an alias?
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10:34<shevek>daemonkeeper: It's my address as a debian developer; it is sent through to my "normal" e-mail indeed.
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10:35<daemonkeeper>shevek: Check db.d.o for your forward alias then.
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10:35<shevek>daemonkeeper: Most email is normally delivered, just this one isn't. In general the address works fine.
10:36<shevek>I suspect that the site which sends it is crafting an invalid message, which is rejected by Debian's mail servers. Normally that's a good thing, but in this case I want to read it anyway. :-)
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10:37<daemonkeeper>shevek: Maybe ask DSA to peek the logs.
10:37<daemonkeeper>shevek: At least I think, it is them being responsible for master.
10:37<shevek>Ok, I'll ask them. Thanks.
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11:20<lonewolf>like to say a good hello.
11:21<lonewolf>i am having a problem with audio.
11:22<lonewolf>i found there is a dummy output. I do not know how to change to my pci sound card. it is in gray.
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11:26<hook>Yo guys, stupid question: Where would it make sense ti "install" Desura client until its source is GPL'd and it gets a proper .deb package?
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11:30<Bushmills>when you depend on it
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11:31<waynr>hello folks
11:31<waynr>is this the right place to seek guidance in solving a package issue in debian wheezy?
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11:32<Bushmills>probably not. i suppose you'll be told that this channel is for supporting stable, which is squeeze right now
11:33<waynr>okay fair enough
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11:35<hook>waynr: You can always try ;)
11:35<hook>Or ask which channel is the right place for such questions...
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11:36<waynr>well i found #debian-next
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11:37<lonewolf>where do i go for sound card help using squeeze
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11:38<waynr>anyway, the problem i am having may or may not be related to debian wheezy...when i try to install ghc from a downloaded binary archive i ge a message "error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
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11:38<waynr>and indeed the file cannot be found on my PC, but it was not like this a couple weeks ago when i first installed ghc in the same way
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11:40<love>como te llamas
11:40<waynr>my llamo waynr. no habla espanol mucho
11:41<love>yo se un poco de ingle
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11:42<waynr>buen, hay un "channel" para gentes que hablo espanol
11:43<waynr>"/join #debian-es" ellos pueden ayudarte mas ayi
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11:43<waynr>lo siento para muedo espanol
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11:45<waynr> spanish is horrible
11:47<lonewolf>what is this channel for if it is not used for help,just a wast. thought debian had good supporters. need to go find another distros.
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11:50<jhutchins_lt>lonewolf: All we know is you're using squeeze and you don't understand the audio controls. A different distro's not going to fix that.
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11:54<waynr>lonewolf, if you try displaying the error message you are seeing you might have a better chance of catching someone's attention
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11:55<lonewolf>no but the one i came from at least asked showing they might i said i have a pci sound card, i can not use it for it is greyed out.can not use it, or choose to use it.the dummy package is highlighted. i do not know why.
11:55<waynr>where is it greyed out?
11:56<lonewolf>in multimedia system settings
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11:56<waynr>open up a terminal and type "aplay -L" then put it in a pastebin and link it here
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11:57<waynr>uh, put the output in a pastebin*
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11:57<waynr>and, what specific soundcard are you using?
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11:59<lonewolf> first command not found secound it is a rosswill 5:1
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12:00<lonewolf>thought to turn off computer remove it restart then shutdown again then put it back in.
12:01<jhutchins_lt>lonewolf: What, this is WIndows 98?
12:01<lonewolf>no.debian squeeze
12:02<jhutchins_lt>lonewolf: You need to find out how to configure/enable a second card. Rebooting won't actually help.
12:02<jhutchins_lt>lonewolf: I know I've seen it explained here, but it has to do with alsa and the sound config files. I don't have two cards so I don't know.
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12:03<lonewolf>well yes i am try to learn to do this
12:03<jhutchins_lt>lonewolf: Some of the things that show up in the GUI controls really aren't controlled through the GUI, you need to edit the config files.
12:03<jhutchins_lt>lonewolf: There are people who know how to do this, they just don't happen to be around right now.
12:03<waynr>alright run the following command and put it in a pastebin "lspci -vvk"
12:03<jhutchins_lt>Let me see if the bot knows something...
12:03<txt_file>I have 3 sound cards but I'm using pulseaudio and control them with pacontrol
12:03<lonewolf>the alsa config?
12:04<jhutchins_lt>lonewolf: THis might have something:
12:04<waynr>nevermind, listen to them ha
12:05<lonewolf>00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1)
12:05<lonewolf> Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device 0efb
12:05<lonewolf> Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
12:05<lonewolf> Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
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12:07<thehf>Hi, if i do a "ldd" i get a No such file or directory error, but this .so file is available in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and added to /etc/
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12:07<waynr>sorry about that lonewolf
12:07<lonewolf>well, so what happened? i pasted like i was told.
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12:09<waynr>i neglected to explain what pastebin is
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12:10<waynr>there is a type of web application that lets you paste long strings of text and create links to that content to share in irc channels
12:11<waynr>the only one i know of (because i don't use them that often) is
12:11<thehf>Also if i run ldconfig -v it shows me some libs from /usr/lib/x86.. but not my libXrender
12:11<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <>.
12:11<henson>This new bittorrent shareapp looks interesting. There's no OS version yet is there?
12:11<lonewolf>ook thanx
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12:30<cla>hay alguien?
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12:30<cla>porfavor qe alguien conteste
12:31<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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12:36<RedUNS>русские есть?
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12:37<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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12:38<lonewolf>well, i have it working.
12:38<lonewolf>would you like me to let you all know
12:38<lonewolf>what i did?
12:38<waynr>good job. sure, what'd you do?
12:39<lonewolf>first i forgot about mixer setting. to config the chennels.
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12:40<lonewolf> i took the dumymand put it in the availble list
12:40<lonewolf>restarted comp.
12:40<lonewolf> turn off then put the card back in
12:41<lonewolf>restarted and it works.
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12:41<lonewolf>i do not have the dummy it is gone.
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12:42<lonewolf>i think the easyer would have been to go and configure the channel list
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12:42<Justmee>I am trying to install Debian 6.0.3 on a laptop a Toshiba Satellite A300 but what is happening is it is booting up to the first screen and then when I select install from the list it just hangs. Does nothing I have tried an advanced install as well.. and it does the same thing.. any one know what is going on I have other machines (desktops) which I have installed debian on with no problems but this laptop is being a pain
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12:43<Justmee>I am doing a net-install
12:43<lonewolf>i find it in when i click the volume then click on the mixer tab.
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12:43<lonewolf>then click on settings.
12:44<Justmee>Anyone have any idea why this Toshiba A300 laptop is being such a pain?
12:44<txt_file>Justmee: are you using the gtk interface or the console?
12:44<lonewolf>thanx for some of the help you gave.
12:44<Justmee>well all I get to is the 1st bootup screen on the CD
12:44<Justmee>and then I choose install from the options menu
12:44<Justmee>I do not change anything else...
12:44<waynr>ha, i wasn't very helpful
12:45<lonewolf>no problem
12:45<Justmee>So why when I choose install it hangs.. and it does the same if I do the expert install too I am doing a net-install
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12:45<lonewolf>just thought i should let all know what i did to get it to work.
12:46<txt_file>do you get something like "graphical install"?
12:46<Justmee>I tried a graphical install as well and it hangs too
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12:46<Justmee>that is another option on there.. tried that too.
12:47<dvs>Justmee: Update your BIOS
12:47<Justmee>So why is it doing this I never had it do this before.. I have 3 machines here
12:47<Justmee>dvs it is updated
12:47<Justmee>dvs latest one
12:48<Justmee>So why is the debian installer (net-installer) hanging like this.. it shouldn't
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12:49<txt_file>I had once a usb-install which needed a minute between selecting something and schowing any progress
12:49<Justmee>It has sat for 15 min
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12:49<Justmee>it is at the SAME spot..
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12:49<Justmee>that isn't it
12:50<Justmee>can some one please help me
12:50<lonewolf>could it be hardware not being detected?
12:50<Justmee>well it is detecting the DVD drive....
12:50<Justmee>and it is not telling me anything else
12:50<Justmee>it doesn't say anything.. all you do is select one of the options from the menu and then it does nothing.
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12:51<Justmee>so how do I know.. I have tried an advanced install too
12:51<lonewolf>i do not do laptops not sure
12:51<Justmee>it loads 2 files then the screen stays at that spot
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12:51<Justmee>well I need help with this laptop :(
12:52<lonewolf>i have had problems with a bad disk. or a bad disk burn that might be a problem.
12:53<Justmee>well I thought of that I burned it twice
12:53<Justmee>and it is just the net-install
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12:53<lonewolf>oh never done that.
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12:54<lonewolf>always used disk to install.
12:54<lonewolf>with internet connected
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12:54<waynr>Justmee, have you tried the help menu option ?
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12:54<Justmee>but realy doesn't tell me anything I don't already know
12:55<waynr>when i first installed debian i had similar trouble that required me to boot with acpi turned off
12:55<waynr>i am on a toshiba satellite p205d
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12:55<Justmee>Well I have not tried turning acpi off yet.. let me give that a shot
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12:56<Justmee>Ya this is a Toshiba Satellite A300
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12:57<waynr>Justmee, also try "noapic" ...i don't remember for sure if it was acpi=off or noapic that did it for me
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12:58<Justmee>ok I did a install acpi=off and still the same old black screen
12:58<Justmee>nothing on it.. no errors nothing just blank..
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12:59<Justmee>I hate this laptop
12:59<waynr>Justmee, from the help index screen if you press F5 and then F6 you will see a list of boot parameters that can help with lockups
12:59<Justmee>in the help menu it says to turn off acpi to do what i did
12:59<Justmee>Ya I did that
12:59<Justmee>thats where I was.. and got the command line to turn off acpi
13:00<waynr>try the other options now, such as noapic
13:00<Justmee>one sec
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13:02<priv1>dvs: Why updating BIOS?
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13:02<Justmee>nope same thing.. same black screen with install noapic
13:03<Justmee>nothing on it..
13:03<waynr>try the other options on the screen with workarounds for lockups and other hardware-related failures
13:03<Justmee>It isn't telling me anything damn debian
13:03<Justmee>I dunno what it is though I don't know if it is the screen
13:03<Justmee>that it isn't detcecting because it won't tell me anything
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13:04<Justmee>I am about to throw this piece of shit out the window
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13:04<waynr>Justmee, send it to me, i can get it working :-D
13:04<Justmee>doubt it.. it is a pain in the ass
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13:04<Justmee>it won't tell you anything
13:04<Justmee>as to what it isn't detecting or anything
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13:05<waynr>Justmee, hold on a sec, i am looking for some kind of verbose install option that might give you more clues
13:05<Justmee>it just puts a black screen up with nothing on it
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13:05<Justmee>ok.. Ya that was what I was looking for too
13:05<Justmee>I can't find it
13:05<dvs>priv1: I got a kernel panic before I updated my BIOS
13:05<Justmee>THis is the debian 6.0.3 net-install
13:05<waynr>Justmee, does anything else run on the computer?
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13:06<priv1>dvs: Okay, do you know the technical background?
13:06<Justmee>no other OS
13:06<waynr>for example, one thing i like to use is systemrescuecd
13:06<Justmee>nothing else is on it
13:07<waynr>try this:
13:07<dvs>priv1: From what I read, the data area of the BIOS was being overwritten. The 'copy_dsdt' option worked but it's not part of the 2.6.32 kernel.
13:07<Justmee>what is that?
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13:07<waynr>it is a livecd with all kinds of tools on it
13:07<waynr>you can easily ruin an installed system with that disc
13:07<waynr>(so be careful)
13:08<Losba>Whenever I try to mount a drive in Thunar, it says not authorized, and I think my .xinitrc is right, and I think I'm in the proper groups, although I'm not sure
13:08<Justmee>Ya but what is that going to do I need verbose debian install mode
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13:08<waynr>this will let you check your system for problems
13:08<waynr>like using the memtest to see if there is anything wrong with your system memory
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13:08<Justmee>Ya I already checked it with a windows CD for any memory problems before there are none
13:09<txt_file>Losba: i get this error sometimes when i unmount a drive. but it is unmounted in my case
13:09<Justmee>the hard disk was checked ... with a chkdsk nothing
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13:09<priv1>waynr: memtest? Is this the test, which took years, when it's really finish?
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13:10<Justmee>still looking for a verbose debian install to actually tell me something
13:10<Justmee>as to what its problem is
13:10<Justmee>That is one thing they need to fix in Debian is stop putting up black screens like this and actually put information on it telling you what its problem is
13:10<waynr>Justmee, have you tried the other workarounds for hardware-related lockups?
13:11<Justmee>Ya I was trying them so far nothing has worked! and then again it won't tell me anything
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13:12<waynr>have you tried the expert install option?
13:12<waynr>rescue modes?
13:12<Justmee>It loads the 2 images at the start then goes to a black screen under the expert install
13:12<Justmee>There is nothing to rescue the machine is empty no OS
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13:13<Justmee>Gotta find a verbose install
13:13<Justmee>so it will actually tell me something
13:14<waynr>did you try "vga=normal fb=false"?
13:14<txt_file>have you tried to boot from usb or cd?
13:15<Justmee>let me try that one waynr
13:15<txt_file>to make shure that it is no network related problem
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13:16<Justmee>nope it is next to me on the same network I am talking to you from
13:16<Justmee>the network is fine
13:16<lonewolf>here is my 2 cents. find another os to put on their to see if it will even install. then try to install debian
13:16<Justmee>It had Windows 7 on it
13:16<Justmee>other OS will install
13:16<Justmee>but I had that POS Windows7 and I hate windblows so I would rather install Debian
13:18<Justmee>Ok now I got something...
13:18<waynr>Justmee, i would try "expert vga=normal fb=false" since expert mode has shown you the most output so far
13:18<Justmee>when I did an install vga=normal fb=false
13:18<Justmee>I got this
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13:19<lonewolf>reinstall again then without erasing harddisk install debian
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13:19<waynr>that is the message it shows?
13:19<Justmee>PANIC: early exception 0e rip 10:ffffffff0c495a3f error 10 cr2
13:20<Justmee>that is what it told me
13:20<txt_file>Justmee: so debian IS telling you everything importand
13:20<Justmee>txt_file not realy
13:20<waynr>Justmee, sadly, i do not understand kernel panics yet
13:21<Justmee>That is why they made google :) let me look it up
13:21<txt_file>PANIC means that the kernel crashed
13:22<Justmee>yes I know that much
13:22<Justmee>but whats 0e rip that is the important part
13:22<Justmee>that will tell you more
13:23<Justmee>looks like I am not the only one getting that
13:24<waynr>this is an interesting book that may provide some insight:
13:24<waynr>it is downloadable
13:25<Justmee>Now one thing this is an amd64 install CD... but this machine is Intel 64 bit
13:25<Justmee>Install Core 2 Duo CPU
13:25<waynr>amd64 describes x86-64 machines
13:26<Justmee>Ya thought so .. but wanted to make sure LOL
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13:27<Justmee>I dunno this thing is pissing me off
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13:28<lonewolf>i think you have wrong arc. you need IA-64 not amd
13:29<waynr>ia-64 is definitely wrong
13:29<txt_file>lonewolf: core2duo is amd64
13:29<Justmee>Ummm this isn't an Iia-64
13:29<txt_file>IA64 is Intel Itanium (a server processor)
13:29<Justmee>ya this isn't the right core
13:29<haylo_>64 amd is for intel to, that ia stuff is new
13:29<Justmee>errr right one I mean.. the ia64
13:29<Justmee>that would be the wrong core
13:30<lonewolf>alright thanx for clarifying
13:30<haylo_>correct me if i am wring here debian people
13:31<Justmee>This is my core
13:32<Justmee>It is a Toshiba Satellite A300
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13:32<slam>Justmee: simply use amd64
13:32<Justmee>Ya well that is NOT working
13:32<haylo_>i have that computer- they are pretty nice for the money. yes amd64
13:32<Justmee>ya well amd64 is not working I am doing the netinstall
13:33<slam>Justmee: "not working" ?
13:33<haylo_>i actually put 32 bit on mine. it seemed to be having problems and there was only 3 gigs of memory anyway
13:33<Justmee>and you select either install or do the advance install it gives you a BLACK screen
13:33<Justmee>and sits there
13:33<Justmee>I have been working on this for a while here
13:33<Justmee>why put 32 bit on it when it is ment for a 64 bit os
13:33<slam>Justmee: is this a debian stable netinstall?
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13:34<Justmee>PANIC: early exception 0e rip 10:ffffffff0c495a3f error 10 cr2
13:34<Justmee><Justmee> ffffffff0c495a3f
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13:35<haylo_>Justmee, actually it was an accident lol
13:35<slam>Justmee: latest bios?
13:35<haylo_>i lied
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13:35<Justmee>I have been though all that.. others have asked me that here already the bios is updated to the latest
13:36<Justmee>I got that error when I did a vga=normal fb=no
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13:36<slam>Justmee: and without any cheat codes?
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13:36<Justmee>cheat codes that are you talking about>?
13:37<slam>Justmee: e.g. vga=normal
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13:37<Justmee>I TOLD YOU I did that
13:37<Justmee>and that is when I got that error
13:37<Justmee>I pasted before
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13:37<waynr>Justmee, "rip" refers to the amd64 instruction pointer
13:37<dvs>I'd say it's time for a kmuto image
13:38<dpkg>Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.39) are available from (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions:
13:38<Justmee>ok... waynr
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13:38<Justmee>well debian is not telling me much here as to what its problem is
13:38<waynr>according ot the self-service linux guide the next code "10" indicates a dump of the CS register
13:39<waynr>as for what comes after that, i am still reading
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13:39<waynr>i am in chapter 7 page 286 of the book
13:39<waynr>if you want to follow along
13:39<waynr>no guarantee that we will figure anything significant out
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13:40<Justmee>what book?
13:40<Justmee>I am looking up some other stuff...
13:40<waynr>you can download a pdf of it there
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13:40<waynr>the pdf page numbers do not correspond to the book page numbers, sadly
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13:41<waynr>so we know that "ffffffff0c495a3f" is the contents of the CS register...the "error 10 cr2" is probably the kernel's interpretation of that register
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13:42<slam>Justmee: did you try to set the bios to defaults?
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13:43<waynr>(setting bios to defaults sounds more reasonable than what i am doing if you haven't already)
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13:43<Justmee>slam they are fine
13:44<Justmee>Ya so it doesn't like what was put into the CS register...
13:44<Justmee>that still really doesn't tell me a hell of a lot about if it is a piece of hardware or what it is
13:45<Justmee>I just tried to set the SATA mode from ACPI to compatibility in the bios that still did not fix the issue
13:45<Justmee>I thought that might
13:45<waynr>yeah but now we know more than we did before :-p
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13:46<waynr>what version of the kernel does 6.0.3 use?
13:47<Justmee>can never get far enough to see
13:47<waynr>2.6.32-rc5 is installed on my debian squeeze but it's not a clean installation from disk
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13:51<waynr>from arch/x86/kernel/head_64.S in 2.6.32-rc5:325: .asciz "PANIC: early exception %02lx rip %1x:%1x error %1x cr2 %1x\n"
13:52<Aleric>Anyone here who can help me with accessing files on an iphone from linux? What I find on the net is extremely unclear :(
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13:52<Justmee>but it isn't really telling us anything
13:52<waynr>i don't really understand it...yet
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13:53<waynr>the macro is called "early_idt_msg"
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13:59<waynr>Justmee, at this point i would suggest submitting a bug report and trying the x86 version of the debian 6 installation
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14:00<Justmee>Forget it.. I am sick of this... I am going to use this as a paper weight fucking piece of shit laptop
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14:00<waynr>...i would buy it from him...
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14:25<lonewolf>no audio when using iceweasel for flash videos like youtube.but can play music files. does anyone know how to fix, or to just uninstall and try to install firefox?
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14:26<lonewolf>i have adobe installed.
14:26<symptom>hello. Im trying to play videos via vlc or totem, but Im not getting any audio. ffplay works, but vlc and totem do not. What can I check?
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14:28<slam>lonewolf: beeing at debian, you might want to give *-plugin-gnash a try instead of flash
14:29<symptom>nvrmind. internal sound was set ot digital out, guess it needs to be analog out
14:29<slam>lonewolf: iceweasel = firefox
14:29<txt_file>slam: the problem is that many websites are not running properly with gnash ... even with the version in wheezy
14:29<slam>lonewolf: so, there is no solution for that
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14:30<symptom>lonewolf, I havent had this problem with squeeze.
14:30<lonewolf>well when i installed it i did have it. uninstalled it thought it it be a problem but i still have no sound iniceweasel
14:31<Dougwiser>activating video wish me luck
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14:31<symptom>lonewolf, do you have flashplugin-nonfree installed?
14:32<slam>lonewolf: you might want to update it. update-flashplugin --install
14:32<slam>txt_file: "SWF v10 is not supported by GNU Gnash"
14:32<lonewolf>ok but look at that and says system is up to date will go do it.
14:32<txt_file>slam: and lightspark worked on no site i tried it
14:33<slam>txt_file: ack on that
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14:33<symptom>lonewolf, is it ALL flash videos or just some?
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14:34<slam>txt_file: but for videos on youtube or vimeo gnash already does well. add, that you can turn both sites onto html5.
14:34<symptom>have you tried downloading an flv and playing it in totem or vlc?
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14:34<symptom>so then it probably isnt what txt_file says....
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14:36<symptom>im also using gnash.... make sure you have: browser-plugin-gnash gnash gnash-common installed
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14:36<symptom>if you can play the flv in totem or vlc then it is a browser issue, if not then it is a codec issue.
14:36<lonewolf>did have it still not work. will go reinstall
14:37<symptom>you will atleast need to fully quit iceweasel and restart it.. (new process)
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14:38<symptom>lonewolf, make sure you have all of these:
14:39<symptom>s/w32/w64 if you are running 64bit
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14:39<symptom>yea then use w64codecs for the windows portion in the link above
14:39<lonewolf>installed mozilla plugin to and no sound
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14:42<symptom>if all of this doesnt work, go grab flashvideodownloader plugin and download a short flv and try to play it in totem
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14:44<symptom>so.... I just had the same issue as you except sound for flashvideos would only work inside the browser. the problem ended up being my pulseaudio settings. I had my output set to digital when it should have been analog. So make sure your sound settings are good too. if you have pulse installed you can check to makesure that IW volume is up in the applications tab of pulse sound preferences
14:44<jello>kernel: [ 6916.529632] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung\
14:45<jello>anyone know what i can do about that error?
14:45<jello>do i need to reboot the machine?
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14:47<lonewolf>ok weill do
14:47<Aleric>jello: try to reproduce it and find out when it reproduces... GPU = your videocard. It might be broken.
14:47<jello>Aleric: it happens when i do a particular thing in mythtv
14:47<Aleric>Then I'd just ignore it and not that again...
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14:48<Aleric>or try to upgrade your drivers
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14:49<jello>is there any way to just reboot the GPU once it happens (not always under my control)...
14:50<Aleric>not without at least leaving X windows... you could at most try removing the kernel module (ie, nvidia)
14:50<Aleric>and then reloading it again of course :p
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14:51<jello>it's intel...
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14:51<jello>so, i guess i915
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14:52<jello>i'll give it a try
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15:09<lonewolf>well if anyone is keeping up i did as symptom said and i have sound when i play the download video but the browser does not have sound so it is iceweasle problem. what can i do?
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15:21<AquaL1te>why does ubuntu have xbmc-live and debian not? it's very handy to install a mediacenter out of the box
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15:22<AquaL1te>never mind, xbmc-standalone does the trick i guess
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15:23<haylo_>ubuntu adds alot of things to their distro that i would never include unless i was making it for my grandmother
15:23<ompaul>available from an unstable ppa is hardly available for linux in general
15:25<ompaul>AquaL1te: feel free to port it to debian and look for a sponsor to help you get it included (check out #debian-mentors)
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15:26<ompaul>lonewolf: you are conflating issues. Can you play a video on youtube yes or no?
15:26<lonewolf>yes but no sound
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15:26<AquaL1te>ompaul: maybe one day i'll do something like that, but when i do i will be doing more important stuff then media. i don't have the time or interest in it right now, sorry.
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15:27<ompaul>AquaL1te: you have the interest you asked :) as for the commitment that is a different thing. ;-)
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15:27<AquaL1te>ompaul: i guess you're right :)
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15:27<AquaL1te>but xbmc-standalone should do the same trick from what i understand
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15:29<AquaL1te>btw: on my squeeze virtualbox there is a xbmc-live, but not on my wheezy
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15:31<txt_file>I'm on Xfce4 under wheezy amd64 and running rhythmbox. I thought that rhythmbox has a tray-icon but there is none. any ideas why it is not shown?
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15:32<ratnick>who would be interested in the my copy of: .xsession-errors (~) ?
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15:35<ratnick>Example Warning: This most likely represents a buggy client sending inaccurate timestamps in messages such as _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW.
15:35<AquaL1te>why is debian-multimedia not an official repository?
15:36<dpkg>[dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>.
15:36<AquaL1te>thank you daemonkeeper
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15:39<slam>AquaL1te: pick from there what you need, and do not dist-upgrade against it
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15:45<ratnick>I'm running squeeze
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16:09<Domovoy>heeeelp, lvm2 don't find my vg anymore! everything was fine this morning, since then i didn't play with lvm at all, just rebooted... lvdisplay tells me "No volume groups found". What's happenning?
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16:12<rik_>Domovoy: the physical disks are still detected?
16:12<Domovoy>rik_, yes
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16:12<rik_>does pvscan detect them?
16:12<Domovoy>rik_, no :(
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16:13<rik_>if you add -vvv to pvscan does it say why?
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16:16<Domovoy>rik_, tried it... now it found them??? well, i'm glad it does, but what happened? why didn't it found them before?
16:17<kike> /server
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16:18<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
16:18<rik_>Domovoy: so vgchange -ay now activates all your volume groups?
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16:21<gigi__>midnight in paris
16:21<Domovoy>rik_, yes...
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16:22<rik_>Domovoy: maybe the boot process isn't waiting long enough for the devices to appear before vgchange is called. Try adding a rootdelay=20 parameter to your kernel parameters
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16:22<ratnick>I have all day to wait for no answers
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16:24<Domovoy>rik_, i'm on a livesystem, and had to install lvm2, so the boot process is not in cause
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16:25<rik_>Domovoy: I see. In that case I have no idea
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16:29<tzafrir>I'm experimenting with xkb layouts
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16:29<tzafrir>I wanted to do those experiments on a separate X server so I ran from the console 'X :1 -ac'
16:30<tzafrir>However looking at the xkb settings (xprop -root | grep _XKB), I see those seem to be taken from the current X server rather than from xorg.conf
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16:31<tzafrir>(versions: from Wheezy)
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16:32<tzafrir>Or should I just give up and put an extra script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d ?
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16:33<gigiuzzo>help come si trova il file
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16:51<EmleyMoor>I've had a resurgence of "nonsense" flip flops being reported by arpwatch - what can I do about it?
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17:22<gigiuzzo>server openyoke
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17:27<ratnick>At this point you will find yourself among the friendly crowd of #debian inhabitants.
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17:28<ratnick>Found at:
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18:16<sawalleyne>i have expeirance in writting programs. I was wanting to help write some programs for
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18:17<sawalleyne>debian but having trouble finding a way to get involved
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18:20<fahrenheit>sawalleyne, the distro intermediate users and software developers, you may help any free software project
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18:28<sawalleyne>fahrenhiet, when you say distro intermediate users and software developers. are you talking about a mailing list, web site, irc channel
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18:30<Bushmills>and packaging the software
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18:39<jhutchins>Does Debian do bug bounties?
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18:41<daemonkeeper>jhutchins: Sure, you get a warm and friendly handclasp from the maintainer.
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18:56<Bushmills>i thought that's what the !beer factoid was for
18:57<dpkg>i heard beer is liquid gold mate
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18:58<Bushmills>!beer dpkg
18:58*dpkg deftly decants a fine Bornem Tripple for dpkg
18:59<jhutchins>I was just thinking, say, there's a bug in a package I need, there should be a web site where I can offer a payment for whoever fixes it.
18:59<jhutchins>I know there are bounty web sites like that for some things.
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19:06<boi_guest>Hi, I have an eeepc 900, I need an up-to-date system and I'm wondering: is my best option to install squeeze on it?
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19:07<mattcen>boi_guest: Depends on your definition of up-to-date. Squeeze is fine, but keep in mind it's over a year old (or thereabouts0
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19:07<mattcen>I run Squeeze happily on my server and my Acer netbook though.
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19:07<boi_guest>or testing?
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19:08<mattcen>You've got to weigh up the risk with installing testing over stable, vs the newer package that affords you. I'm running Wheezy on my other laptop, but resolve not to install updates unless something's broken.
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19:10<Bushmills>boi_guest: check out
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19:11<Bushmills>or better
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19:11<Bushmills>"Staring with Debian Squeeze 6.0..." :D
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19:13<Bushmills>SynrG might be able to advice
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19:14<simonlnu>you're welcome :)
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19:16<boi_guest>thanks for these suggestions, guys - much appreciated. I will sleep on it for now and make a decision later to-day or tomorrow...
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19:21<Justmee>Hey all...
19:21<Justmee>So I was here earlier with an issue with a Toshiba A300 laptop that won't take debian net-install 6.0.3
19:22<Justmee>I believe I know what the problem is I have been doing some research it is the ACPI
19:22<Justmee>and yes I have already tried to do an install acpi=off as well
19:23<Justmee>and set it to compatibility mode in the bios as well still no dice
19:23<Justmee>When you select install from the main menu when the CD boots up it just hangs with a black screen
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19:23<Justmee>anyone know how to get around that?
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19:26<Justmee>no one can help?
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19:27<Justmee>Come on some one please help me!
19:28<simonlnu>please be patient
19:28<simonlnu>we're volunteers here
19:29<Bushmills>or nag a bit harder, to speed up the whole thing a bit
19:29<simonlnu>speedy adding to ignore list ;p
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20:01<asulil>hi everybody
20:01<jquazar>hi asulil
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20:01<asulil>i am using gmail actualy, it 's realy very slow, wich webmail can you suggest me ? thank you in advance
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20:11<Justmee>So I was here earlier with an issue with a Toshiba A300 laptop that won't take debian net-install 6.0.3 I believe I know what the problem is I have been doing some research it is the ACPI and yes I have already tried to do an install acpi=off as well and set it to compatibility mode in the bios as well still no dice When you select install from the main menu when the CD boots up it just hangs with a black screen
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20:15<dpkg>Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.39) are available from (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions:
20:15<jordanm>Justmee: you can try the alternate installer with a newer kernel
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20:30<jhutchins>Justmee: Will it boot as a live cd image?
20:32<jquazar>asulil this seems a strange place to ask what webmail is faster than gmail
20:33<jquazar>anyway they have a mobile view that may be a lot faster? I don't think Debian would have a recommendation, it's not "their thing"
20:33<bones_was_here>roundcube running on your own box will for sure be faster than gmail ;)
20:33<jhutchins>asulil: In what way is gmail slow?
20:33<jquazar>bones, dude.. word
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20:42<Justmee>sorry was in another window
20:42<Justmee>you still there jhutchins
20:42<Justmee>it boots to the CD and I see the menu screen
20:42<Justmee>and I select either install or expert install
20:43<Justmee>both just lock up
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20:44<Justmee>you there jhutchins
20:44<Justmee>I believe it has to do with the acpi mode and yes I have tried install acpi=off
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20:45<jhutchins>Justmee: I was wondering if the hybrid CD's that are live CD's as well will run if you don't go for an install.
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20:46<Justmee>This is just a pain in the ass why the hell would Toshiba do this
20:47<Justmee>I have tried everything nothing has worked so far doubt those CDs would tried a couple so far. .I am doing a netinstall
20:48<jhutchins>If the live CD won't run, chances are you're not going to get a normal install to work.
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20:48<Justmee>well they SHOULD god there has to be some way to do this!
20:48<Justmee>Fucking Toshiba.. I am about to rip them a new asshole Monday
20:48<bones_was_here>maybe try the usb flash/hdd method?
20:48<jhutchins>Good luck with that.
20:49<bones_was_here>or pxe netboot from another machine if ;you have one
20:49<Justmee>it has to do with the ACPI mode they use
20:49<Justmee>and debian not liking the ACPI
20:49<bones_was_here>ah :(
20:49<jhutchins>I did have a Toshiba that ran Mandriva great for years until the xorg Intel problems, at which point I switched to Lenny.
20:49<bones_was_here>any bios updates available?
20:49<Justmee>Ya but the kicker on that... is that you have to have Windows installed
20:49<jhutchins>Justmee: ... and you not being able to figure out how to get around ACPI problems.
20:50<Justmee>to do their bios update the fuckers didn't even make a dos flash
20:50<Justmee>jhutchins no
20:50*bones_was_here makes note to self, never buy toshiba laptop
20:50<Justmee>Ya it is a pain
20:50<jhutchins>bones_was_here: I was very happy with mine.
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20:50<Justmee>I am trying to find a dos flasher for it
20:51<bones_was_here>well i have an ancient toshiba laptop here at work where debian works fine, but if it doesn't on the new ones that seems like a good reason to never buy one :)
20:51<Justmee>I do not want to put winblows on it
20:51<Justmee>Ya it is the new ones with the ACPI
20:51<Justmee>that are the problem
20:51<bones_was_here>maybe some kind of bart PE windows based boot CD can run and flash the bios?
20:51<Justmee>This is a Toshiba A300-034 PSAG0C-03401c
20:51<jhutchins>In any case, this is not a "Flame Toshiba" channel, if there's no one around who knows how to address the ACPI issue you're probably better off searching for answers in the forum.
20:51<bones_was_here>(assuming the new bios actually fixes the issue)
20:51<Justmee>Ya maybe bones
20:52<Justmee>jhutchins look I am here to install debian so yes we have to find away around the ACPI issue
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20:53<Justmee>BRB going to try bart pe
20:53<jhutchins>Justmee: You'll probably find more active help during euro-american business hours.
20:54<Justmee>to at least get the bios updated
20:54<Justmee>well I am in Canada and I am here and will be working all night on this
20:54<Justmee>it is only 6:54 PM here anyways
20:54<Justmee>So anyone have any ideas on how to get around the ACPI issue?
20:54<jhutchins>I'm pretty sure Toshiba's not bashful about "This laptop does not support other operating systems which may void your waranty and will prevent us from providing you with support".
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20:55<jhutchins>Justmee: Again, you'll probably find more active help during euro-american business hours. The forums are going to be more productive.
20:56<bones_was_here>they SHOULD be embarrassed to ship an os as bad as windows 7
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20:56<Justmee>jhutchins you know what.... if you are not going to help me then fine but you know what I need to find a way to FIX this
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20:56<Justmee>so please be quiet then if you are not willing to help.. I need to find a way to fix this now.. not wait till euro-american business hows.. it is only 6:56 PM here
20:57<Justmee>jhutchins Toshiba can go shove their laptop up their ass as far as I am concerned those amateurs .. so some one here that knows what they are doing with ACPI please help me
20:58<bones_was_here>have you tried an installer for testing/unstable? those should have a newer kernel which might possibly include workarounds for the problem if it's been known for a while
20:59<Justmee>well I am doing a 6.0.3 net-install here
20:59<Justmee>that is the latest
20:59<bones_was_here>6.0.3 uses kernel 2.6.32 which is quite old
20:59<bones_was_here>testing/unstable CDs will have a newer kernel
20:59<Justmee>Ya well if a stable won't install the unstable probably won't either
21:00<bones_was_here>...unless someone else encountered the problem, and submitted a patch to lkml that fixes it?
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21:01<bones_was_here>debian testing/unstable does NOT mean 'all the software in the distro is pre-alpha/alpha/beta'
21:01<bones_was_here>it contains stable, finished releases from
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21:09<amitz>what package provides mkpasswd ? not
21:09<dpkg>apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <auto-apt>, <dlocate>.
21:11<amitz>oh damn, the 20mb download... oh well :-p. but thanks
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21:12<Bushmills>"... You can also search online.."
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21:16<amitz>yep, got it. in whois package, so unintuitive.
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21:17<amitz>i read the reasoning though.
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21:45<dpkg>[apple] a fruit, or Apple Inc. (formerly Apple Computer, Inc.), a consumer electronics and software company. . See also <airport>, <alac>, <combo drive>, <hfs>, <hfsplus>, <imac>, <ipod>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <mac mini>, <open firmware>, <powerpc>, <quicktime>, <superdrive>. ##apple on
21:45<dpkg>QuickTime is a proprietary multimedia framework by Apple Inc., also the name of its player application and media container format (.mov). The container usually has a video stream encoded with a <sorenson> codec. For playback on Debian systems, ask me about <mplayer>, <totem>, <vlc>, <xine>. libquicktime is a library for reading/writing QuickTime files, packaged for Debian. See also <ffmpeg>.
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21:47<simonlnu>do you have a debian question?
21:47<gersiton>in this moment
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21:48<amdgoon>Is there a way to get trailer to play?
21:49<ryanc_>amdgoon: mplayer can play them
21:50<ryanc_>amdgoon: install gecko-mediaplayer
21:51<amdgoon>hi ryanc_
21:51<ryanc_>amdgoon: you might also need the w64codecs or w32codecs package
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21:52<amdgoon>right have the multimedio repo and w64codecs but not a browser plugin that works atm
21:52<ryanc_>apt-get install gecko-mediaplayer
21:52<ryanc_>then restart firefox
21:52<ryanc_>and it shouyld work
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21:56<amdgoon>well it brings up a black screen the browser but does not show any video or audio. would that be a codec issue?
21:56<jhutchins_lt>iirc apple does quicktime for linux.
21:56<amdgoon>play button, etc appear to be active
21:56<amdgoon>jhutchins_lt: oh . . .
21:57<jhutchins_lt>Apple is one of those companies that constantly shift their codec to keep other companies from having working compatible clients.
21:57<ryanc_>amdgoon: did you install w64codecs?
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21:58<amdgoon>yes, w64codecs are at newest version
21:59<amdgoon>am using fglrx for amd64, don't know if that could be the problem. Guess I should dl a .mov file and see if I can play it at all.
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22:03<madsci>what should i do if debian cant recognize my internet adaptor
22:04<amdgoon>i get an error with mplayer, vlc complains but plays the test video
22:05<abrotman>madsci: is that all the information we get?
22:05<amdgoon>mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file with link time reference
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22:05<amdgoon>sorry was going to google that before posting the error
22:06<madsci>im using this adaptor
22:06<jhutchins_lt>I just get the Quicktime logo.
22:06<amdgoon>jhutchins_lt: yes that was what I initially got too.
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22:07<abrotman>madsci: do you know the chipset inside ?
22:07<amdgoon>I think mplayer needs to be fixed up here, then it may play a trailer in the browser
22:07<madsci>dont know much about computer hardware
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22:09<jhutchins_lt>madsci: 1) Determine the chipset that adapter uses. 2) Find the kernel module that works with that chipset.
22:09<jhutchins_lt>madsci: To teh google!
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22:11<madsci>this one
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22:13<amdgoon>mplayer plays the .mov file after updating mplayer from the debian repo to the one from the multimedia repo
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22:13<madsci>so to install i just use an ethernet connection and install with squeeze?
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22:15<abrotman>madsci: if hta'ts what the URl says
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22:23<amdgoon>well no joy on trailers. oh well. any suggestions? besides, don't watch trailer, lol
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22:24<lonewolf>one kubuntu i had vary few problems going to reinstall it.
22:26<abrotman>why are you telling us?
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22:27<lonewolf>he asked for a suggestion so that is my 2 cents worth, thats all
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22:29<amdgoon>well good luck with that
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22:32<lonewolf>i do not need luck, it just works or i can get things working easier than debian.
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22:33<abrotman>amdgoon: what's the URL ?
22:34<lonewolf>sucks though thought it was better than ubuntu family.
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22:34<abrotman>lonewolf: do you need help with Debian ?
22:34<amdgoon>trailer URL: then any of the trailers there
22:35<abrotman>amdgoon: with FF?
22:35<abrotman>erm .. iceweasel
22:35<lonewolf>well been fighting with iceweasle and no sound with flash as youtube.
22:35<lonewolf>tring to install real firefox now
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22:35<abrotman>amdgoon: works fine here
22:36<amdgoon>iceweasel v9.0.1 which might be the problem
22:36<abrotman>amdgoon: but i use 32bit, not amd64
22:36<abrotman>and i have IW9 also
22:36<lonewolf>i am 64
22:36<amdgoon>hmm, ok thanks
22:36<abrotman> 9.0.1-1~bpo60+1
22:37<abrotman>amdgoon: unless you're doing some serious work on your desktop, really no reason to use amd64 over i386
22:38<amdgoon>yes, i may go for that install on another drive see, if that gets it going.
22:38<vrkalak>my iceweasel in +backports just upgraded to 10.0
22:38*abrotman thinks that comma is misplaced
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22:40<amdgoon>hmmm i just pulled v9 on amd64 backports
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22:50<rhpicomp>what this room
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22:52<abrotman>rhpicomp: /topic
22:54<rhpicomp>yes i like debian
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22:54<rhpicomp>ada orang indonesia in here
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23:10<Fighter747>Question: I have mozilla firefox downloaded on debian, how do I go about installing it via command line?
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23:12<dpkg>Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. See also <iceweasel backports>.
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23:30<dpkg>from memory, base-files is the Debian Base System Miscellaneous Files
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23:50<omid>i cannot reboot my system. when i wants to reboot again the loging screen comes after ahile
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23:51<dpkg>To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (
23:52<dpkg>fglrx is the ATI/AMD proprietary display driver for Radeon HD and FireGL graphics cards. As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chips prior to the R600 series (i.e. models up to and including the Radeon X1950) are supported; use the <radeon> or <radeonhd> drivers for device support. To install fglrx, ask me about <fglrx dkms>; see <fglrx lenny> for oldstable. #ati on
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