| --- | Log | opened Tue Jan 31 00:00:12 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Jan 31 2012 |
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| 01:15 | <lp> | how can i apply kernel patches with make-kpkg? —added-patches seems to have disappeared |
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| 01:30 | <jm_> | lp: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/blog/2009/04/07/Not_your_father__39__s_kernel-package/ says to prepare the source before calling make-kpkg |
| 01:31 | <lp> | jm_: thanks. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Debian_Squeeze_Compile_RTAI says make-kpkg is considered obsolete by devian devels - is this true? |
| 01:33 | <jm_> | lp: it says broken, not obsolete ;) |
| 01:33 | <lp> | jm_: never mind, your link says so too… what is the proper way to build debian kernels then? |
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| 01:34 | <lp> | jm_: alioth seems down, can't find the kernel handbook anymore :( |
| 01:34 | <sney> | I used to know it |
| 01:35 | <sney> | um, I think it's a new option to pass to 'make' |
| 01:35 | <jm_> | lp: this is only for the kernel team, it should not be a problem for debian users |
| 01:35 | <sney> | make deb-pkg? something like that? |
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| 01:35 | <jm_> | yes, that's what 2.6 has, however I don't use any of that, I build and copy it manually |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | ('make help' to see other possible targets) |
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| 01:36 | <lp> | jm_: then, i should just manually apply the scripts that linux-patch-* packages place in /usr/src? |
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| 01:38 | <codemonkey1337> | okay guys, I have a question for you. I need a VNC server on my machine. I tried tightvnc and couldn't get it to work, what's an easy to configure VNC server? |
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| 01:44 | <jm_> | lp: looks like it |
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| 02:21 | <fredl> | 'morning folks |
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| 02:23 | <retrospectacus> | hi fredl |
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| 02:23 | <fredl> | curious... this may be more of a networking question, but I'm looking into VLAN tagging |
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| 02:24 | <fredl> | is it common to have, say, a switch with all ports in one (default) VLAN (I believe typically this would be VLAN 1 with an unconfigured switch) and then have the *hosts* do the VLAN tagging of the traffic? |
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| 02:25 | <fredl> | I'm trying to configure a KVM host which can talk on multiple VLANs |
| 02:26 | <fredl> | so what I'm curious about is - what does a switchport without any specific VLAN configuration do with a frame that's tagged by the OS with a VLAN tag? |
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| 02:29 | <fredl> | too network specific I guess ha? :) |
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| 02:29 | <jasonsmr> | IDK even what, a tag is. |
| 02:30 | <jasonsmr> | that part the packet? |
| 02:30 | <fredl> | yes from what I understand it actually gets attached to the frame (not packet FWIW as we're talking layer 2) |
| 02:31 | <fredl> | oh well, I guess I will just have to experiment with it a little bit. |
| 02:31 | <retrospectacus> | I think switch vlans do not care about that packet tag |
| 02:33 | <fredl> | well so far it looks like the switch actually does retrospectacus. Not sure yet, but I now have a host with a bridge interface configured in a non-default VLAN |
| 02:33 | <fredl> | when I tcpdump on another hosts interface thats connected to the same switch, I dont see the packets from the host with the VLAN tag |
| 02:35 | <codemonkey1337> | guys, I need help. I just set up a tight vnc server on my debian screen but whenever I VNC into it all I get is a gray screen, help? |
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| 02:36 | <retrospectacus> | codemonkey1337: If you are wanting to see what an already-logged-in user is seeing, use the x11vnc server |
| 02:36 | <codemonkey1337> | retrospectacus: apt-get install x11vnc-server? |
| 02:36 | <fredl> | lessee... bringing up the second machine with the VLAN 'ed interfaces... |
| 02:36 | <retrospectacus> | sonds about right codemonkey1337 |
| 02:37 | <jm_> | codemonkey1337: reading /usr/share/doc/tightvncserver/faq* will help |
| 02:39 | <codemonkey1337> | wait hold on |
| 02:39 | <codemonkey1337> | I cant use x11vnc unless it works with a portableapp, which I don't think it does |
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| 02:39 | <codemonkey1337> | or does it? |
| 02:39 | <retrospectacus> | codemonkey1337: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:40 | <codemonkey1337> | retrospectacus: okay here is what the story is. I'm running a debian live cd for class in a virtual machine, I have a partition set up for it to run on...and I'm trying to VNC into the virtual machine |
| 02:40 | <codemonkey1337> | I don't care about seeing what's already on the screen, I just need to be able to use firefox |
| 02:41 | <codemonkey1337> | so i can submit might assignments that I compiled on that machine |
| 02:41 | <retrospectacus> | how/why a live CD in a virtual machine? ... |
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| 02:42 | <retrospectacus> | but ssh -X should work for that |
| 02:42 | <retrospectacus> | !sshx |
| 02:42 | <dpkg> | You can run X11 apps securely over an ssh connection without <xhost> nor X TCP support. Enable X11Forwarding _on the remote server_ (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. See also <root x> and <cygwin sshx>. |
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| 02:42 | <jm_> | wouldn't it be easier to us esomething like grml which comes with X and iceweasel? |
| 02:42 | <codemonkey1337> | because the Live cd has tons and tons of packages on it that my system programming in unix class uses. I have ssh installed and running but I need to run firefox so I can download and install the assignments on the virtual machine |
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| 02:43 | <retrospectacus> | ssh -X to the vm and run firefox (iceweasel) |
| 02:43 | <retrospectacus> | ? |
| 02:43 | <project2510a> | ssh to the Izo |
| 02:43 | <dba> | codemonkey1337: i would assume your system already has firefox (in the form of iceweasel) on it. |
| 02:43 | <dba> | (s/system/live system/) |
| 02:43 | <codemonkey1337> | retrospectacus: dude you want me to run taht command right now? |
| 02:44 | <retrospectacus> | whatever you want dude |
| 02:44 | <codemonkey1337> | /usr/bin/xauth: file /root/.Xauthority does not exist |
| 02:44 | <retrospectacus> | not as root |
| 02:45 | <codemonkey1337> | /usr/bin/xauth: /home/ramon/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored |
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| 02:46 | <simonlnu> | fix that |
| 02:46 | <codemonkey1337> | gah, I'll just install x11vnc then |
| 02:46 | <simonlnu> | all you gotta do is make sure that user owns it |
| 02:47 | <simonlnu> | probably owned by root now |
| 02:49 | <codemonkey1337> | okay |
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| 02:49 | <codemonkey1337> | let me ssh and try again |
| 02:49 | <codemonkey1337> | /usr/bin/xauth: error in locking authority file /home/ramon/.Xauthority |
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| 02:50 | <codemonkey1337> | should I log out? |
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| 02:56 | <simonlnu> | what's the perms on it (should be 600)? |
| 02:56 | <codemonkey1337> | guys, it works! okay what port does x11vnc work off of? |
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| 02:57 | <simonlnu> | isn't it 5070? i don't remember |
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| 02:58 | <codemonkey1337> | found it, it's 5900 |
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| 02:59 | <codemonkey1337> | thank you guys! |
| 02:59 | <simonlnu> | ah, yeh |
| 02:59 | <simonlnu> | they ^^^ did most of the work, as did you ;) |
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| 03:13 | <codemonkey1337> | YAY! I GOT X11VNC and port forwarding working, thank you guys!!!! |
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| 04:00 | <nori971> | hi |
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| 04:06 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | hello, just got an update from squeeze 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 |
| 04:06 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | Is there a way to stay in 6.0.3, but still get security updates ? |
| 04:07 | <streuner__> | these are the security updates... |
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| 04:07 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | ok let me ask it another way :D |
| 04:08 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | i am managing several servers, that i can only reboot twice per year. |
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| 04:09 | <streuner> | and the problem are the updates for kernels? |
| 04:09 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | between the 2 reboots, i only want to have minimal updates on them |
| 04:09 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | mostly yes |
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| 04:10 | <streuner> | well, why not just use "upgrade" and not "dist-upgrade" then? |
| 04:10 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | this is what i have done on a test machine: (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) |
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| 04:10 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | but still i get the new kernel |
| 04:10 | <streuner> | huh |
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| 04:11 | <streuner> | is the meta-package installed for the kernel? |
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| 04:11 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | i though that "only" dist-upgrade would bring me to 6.0.4 |
| 04:11 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | yes |
| 04:11 | <ansgar> | kelkoobenoitr1: Why can you only reboot twice a year? What do you do if there are three security updates for the kernel? |
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| 04:11 | <ansgar> | kelkoobenoitr1: And nobody forces you to reboot after installing a new kernel. |
| 04:11 | <streuner> | good question |
| 04:12 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | ansgar: really depends on what the server is doing ;) |
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| 04:12 | <ansgar> | kelkoobenoitr1: More oin how it is managed... |
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| 04:12 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | if that server is driving crucial research equipement in closed environment: this is not needed |
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| 04:13 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | if the machine is connected to the outside world: yes definitely :D |
| 04:14 | <streuner> | kelkoobenoitr1: upgrade would install the updates (without meta-package) and dont touch the kernel, IIRC |
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| 04:15 | <ansgar> | streuner: No, upgrade only skips installing new packages, but the kernel package did not change names in 6.0.4. |
| 04:15 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | so i should not install the kernel meta package if i want to control the way kernel are updated on my "closed environment" machines ? |
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| 04:16 | <themill> | aptitude has a forbid-version option that might be handy |
| 04:16 | <streuner> | it wouldnt hurd, to just remove the kernel meta package and try just upgrade... |
| 04:17 | <streuner> | in order to install the updates and see it would touch the kernel itself, IMO |
| 04:17 | <streuner> | hm |
| 04:17 | <themill> | (As a user of facilities like you describe, I still don't like the idea that you have so little redundancy in your system that you can't reboot) |
| 04:17 | <funkyHat> | "it wouldn't hurd, to just remove the kernel" hoho |
| 04:17 | * | funkyHat hides |
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| 04:19 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | ok thx |
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| 04:20 | <streuner> | the solution from themill might be more effective... |
| 04:21 | <gdb> | Having a policy of "2 reboots a year" that superceeds security patches to the kernel is asinine. |
| 04:21 | <gdb> | And yes, I work in the enterprise. |
| 04:22 | <gdb> | Whomever writes your organizations security policy should be given a stern talking to. |
| 04:22 | <themill> | Let's hope you never have a hard drive that wants some offline love. |
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| 04:25 | <streuner> | well, <hold> should be able to be a solution too? |
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| 04:26 | <streuner> | !hold |
| 04:26 | <dpkg> | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771. |
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| 04:26 | <gdb> | Sorry, kelkoobenoitr1, I realize it's likely not your fault. That sort of braindeadness just offends me. I don't mean to seem as if I'm taking it out on you. I rant at my own job about the same sorts of things. ;-) |
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| 04:27 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | streuner: thx good to know. |
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| 04:28 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | gdb: no worries. Yes i am in charge of the update linux policy in a research company with with more 1000 linux hosts used in many different ways |
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| 04:29 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | we are migrating, from a "no update policy" to "full updated policy" |
| 04:29 | <gdb> | Well, I can understand having say, quarterly patch updates for "non-critical" patches. But the critical stuff should go in right away. My opinion, of course. And I appreciate that your policy is evolving. |
| 04:29 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | but it takes times, and i need to proove people that upgrading your system will not break it: this is the exact opposite |
| 04:30 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | and yes people are sometimes hard to convince ... |
| 04:30 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | :D |
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| 04:30 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | anywat got my answers, squeeze 6.0.4 rocks :D |
| 04:30 | <streuner> | most people are easy to convince if they have trouble... |
| 04:31 | <streuner> | but then its sometimes too late |
| 04:32 | <gdb> | Indeed! |
| 04:32 | <gdb> | "We shouldn't have waited until the RAID was EOL to migrate to a new platform." |
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| 05:56 | <di0x> | :) |
| 05:56 | <di0x> | you! |
| 05:56 | <di0x> | are! |
| 05:56 | <di0x> | UnDaH maHy koNtroHL |
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| 05:56 | <di0x> | =) |
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| 06:44 | <Zaba> | it seems to still be working okay, and the messages aren't repeating.. I wonder what to do |
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| 07:26 | <bitcode> | my internet sharing is disconnecting automatically |
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| 07:32 | <FOCA> | PRECISO DE AJUDA |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | ME AJUDEJ |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | EU PRECISO DE AJUDA |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | ME AJUDEM |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | POR FAVOR |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | COMO VAI O TEMPO A[I DE VOC"ES AMERICANOS |
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| 07:32 | <FOCA> | DESCULPE A FALTA DE ACENTOS |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | O LINUX NAP RECONHECEU A DISPOSICSO DO TECLADO |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | PRECISO DE AJUDA |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | ME AJUDEM |
| 07:32 | <FOCA> | POR FAVOR |
| 07:33 | <FOCA> | QUEM PODE ME AJUDAR |
| 07:33 | <FOCA> | POR FAVOR GENTE |
| 07:33 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 07:33 | <FOCA> | EU ESTOU PRECISANDO MUITO DE AJUDA |
| 07:33 | -!- | mode/#debian [+b *!*@201.23.160.73] by themill |
| 07:33 | -!- | FOCA was kicked from #debian by themill [You should know better] |
| 07:33 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 07:33 | <tensorpudding> | i can almost understand what he said |
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| 07:43 | <live> | Hello all. how in Ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome 3 bind keys to script? |
| 07:43 | <ansgar> | !ubuntu |
| 07:43 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 07:44 | <astraljava> | Ehh... how do you people with Ubuntu installations come to Debian IRC for support? Where does this come from? |
| 07:44 | <live> | I'm from Latvia ;] |
| 07:45 | <astraljava> | I'm still quite positive your government isn't instructing you to do this. Well, you got yours updated above. Good luck! |
| 07:45 | <themill> | astraljava: it comes from xchat having a list of irc networks and a default channel for each of the networks |
| 07:45 | <astraljava> | themill: Ahh! Ok. |
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| 07:46 | <berto> | live: the people at #ubuntu will probably be able to help you better |
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| 08:24 | <administrator> | hi, what kernel architecture shall I choose during debian wheezy installation for netbook asus eee pc 1000h: 686 or 686-pae? |
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| 08:25 | <themill> | there is no "686" kernel any more |
| 08:25 | <themill> | !686-pae |
| 08:25 | <dpkg> | At linux-2.6 2.6.39~rc4-1~experimental.1, the 686-bigmem flavour was renamed to "686-pae" with the 686 flavour removed. From the package changelog: "For 686-class systems without PAE, the '486' flavour is more efficient than the '686' flavour due to optimisation for uniprocessor systems." The change allows use of the NX (No eXecute, aka eXecute Disable) bit where available. See also <nopae>. |
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| 08:27 | <administrator> | ok, i'm processing this informations... |
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| 08:34 | <administrator> | ok so I understood that I should choose a 486-optimized kernel for intel atom, but which package: linux-image-486 or linux-image-3.1.0-1-486? |
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| 08:35 | <jm_> | the former is a meta package |
| 08:35 | <babilen> | ,depends linux-image-486 --release wheezy |
| 08:35 | <judd> | Package linux-image-486 in wheezy/i386 -- depends: linux-image-3.1.0-1-486. |
| 08:35 | <babilen> | administrator: ... which depends on the latter |
| 08:36 | <jm_> | or in general brings in the latest version when it's updated |
| 08:36 | <babilen> | ,depends linux-image-486 --release sid |
| 08:36 | <judd> | Package linux-image-486 in sid/i386 -- depends: linux-image-3.2.0-1-486. |
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| 08:37 | <babilen> | administrator: ... so once the version in sid enters testing your kernel will be upgraded to the latest version. That will not happen if you install a specific kernel directly. |
| 08:37 | <administrator> | so the first package will be automaticly updated in the future and when I choose the second I will have to update every time manually? |
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| 08:37 | <babilen> | yes |
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| 08:38 | <administrator> | ok thanks for your help:) |
| 08:38 | <babilen> | You are welcome |
| 08:38 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | Does someone knows how to check the exact version number of the running kernel on a server. |
| 08:39 | <babilen> | administrator: Please note that #debian-next is a channel specifically for testing/unstable related questions |
| 08:39 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | i am upgrading my servers from 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 |
| 08:39 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | and as the kernel is updated, a reboot is required |
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| 08:39 | <administrator> | ok |
| 08:40 | <babilen> | kelkoobenoitr1: Is "uname -r" what you are after? I wouldn't be surprised if 6.0.4 ships a new kernel, but I have to admit that I haven't checked that yet. |
| 08:40 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | but uname -r gives the same answer even if you did not reboot the server |
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| 08:40 | <babilen> | !6.0.4 |
| 08:40 | <dpkg> | Debian 6.0.4 was released on January 28th, 2012. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive. Support for Intel C600 Series SAS/SATA controllers is introduced. Further details are at http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120128 and http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/ChangeLog . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>. |
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| 08:41 | <babilen> | kelkoobenoitr1: Oh, yes. Something like "aptitude versions '~i~n^linux-image'" maybe? |
| 08:41 | <jm_> | kelkoobenoitr1: cat /proc/version |
| 08:41 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | uname -r gives 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 08:41 | <jepler> | so I'm trying to install wheezy in a virtual machine .. but I got something very odd when it came time to select packages. anybody know what's going on? http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/select-software-to-install.png |
| 08:41 | <babilen> | jm_: ++ |
| 08:41 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | cat /proc/version |
| 08:41 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-38) |
| 08:41 | <jepler> | image is http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso downloaded 12 hours ago |
| 08:41 | <babilen> | jm_: That will, however, also show the version of the currently running kernel -- I'd say that you have to check if a kernel package has been upgraded during the installation. |
| 08:41 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | yes :D thx babilen |
| 08:42 | <babilen> | kelkoobenoitr1: Enjoy ! |
| 08:42 | <jm_> | babilen: yes, didn't he want to know exactly that? |
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| 08:42 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | well thx jm_ too ;) |
| 08:43 | <babilen> | jm_: I am not entirely sure, but from what I understood kelkoobenoitr1 wanted to know if a reboot is necessary after the point upgrade |
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| 08:44 | <jm_> | jepler: use latest stable CD and upgrade to testing later if that one doesn't work |
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| 08:45 | <kelkoobenoitr1> | babilen: jm_: looks good to me, if i check /proc/version and compare it to package installed, then i know if a reboot is needed or not |
| 08:45 | <babilen> | jepler: First and foremost: Support questions for testing/unstable are more at home in #debian-next. Secondly: I wouldn't recommend to use the testing *installer* but the stable one. I would furthermore recommend not to install wheezy directly, but squeeze first. |
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| 08:45 | <jm_> | ok so babilen clearly has mind reading skills |
| 08:45 | <babilen> | :-D |
| 08:45 | <jm_> | but off now |
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| 08:46 | <jepler> | thanks for the advice, guys |
| 08:47 | <babilen> | jepler: You can use the stable installer to install testing, but that might also not work as smoothly (you can configure it somewhere at the beginning or during expert install) -- We also provide stable installer images with newer kernels (if needed for you hardware during installation) from "/msg dpkg kmuto" |
| 08:48 | <themill> | dpkg, reboot required is <reply> If you've upgraded your kernel package you need to reboot to start running the new kernel. Unless the <kernel abi> has changed, uname -r doesn't tell you whether this is needed or not, instead compare /proc/version to the package version: if ! grep -q $(dpkg-query -f'${Version}' -W linux-image-$(uname -r)) /proc/version; then echo "Reboot required"; fi |
| 08:48 | <dpkg> | okay, themill |
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| 08:48 | <babilen> | \o/ |
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| 08:49 | <jepler> | is it worthwhile to report this problem, or is the debian-testing installer perenially broken and nobody really cares? |
| 08:49 | -!- | bst is now known as Guest1090 |
| 08:49 | <gdb> | I've always felt it a good idea to reboot after glibc is updated, as well. I'm not sure how necessary it is, though. |
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| 08:50 | <themill> | gdb: yeah well... checkrestart mostly handles that for you |
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| 08:51 | <gdb> | themill: It can't restart init, though, which is also linked against glibc. I dunno, just seems "right" to me. :-) (rightly or wrongly) |
| 08:51 | <themill> | I thought it told init to respawn |
| 08:51 | -!- | Guest1090 is now known as bst_ |
| 08:51 | <gdb> | init itself isn't able to exit, is it? |
| 08:52 | <gdb> | I suppose it can exec itself, yes. I don't know. |
| 08:52 | <gdb> | Ah, telinit u |
| 08:53 | <themill> | indeed |
| 08:53 | <gdb> | That doesn't change the start time of the process, though. That said, I don't know if it should. |
| 08:53 | * | gdb just tried it to see what would happen. |
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| 08:54 | <gdb> | I suppose "preserving state" as documented in the init man page would imply that the start time of the process would not change. Also, I don't know how the process start time is impacted by exec (if at all). It's not been something I've ever thought about before. |
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| 09:16 | <josephseraos> | hi there. I'd like to know about sending mails. Is easy to make my own computer send mails to other computer |
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| 09:19 | <babilen> | josephseraos: Could you tell us a bit more about what you are trying to do -- You can, naturally, just configure a mail client of your choice, but I have the feeling that this is not what you are after. |
| 09:19 | <lduros> | hi, what's the channel to discuss available packages and potential packages, otherwise than the debian mentors mailing list, I thought maybe there's a channel dedicated to it |
| 09:19 | <lduros> | thx |
| 09:19 | <babilen> | lduros: I am not aware of a specific channel for this, but we have #debian-mentors which is probably the most appropriate one. |
| 09:20 | <babilen> | lduros: I am not sure what you are after as discussing available packages is probably quite on-topic here. I'd suggest to just ask your question in here and we'll let you know if there is a more appropriate channel. |
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| 09:22 | <josephseraos> | babilen, I don't want use any service like GMail, Hotmail or Yahoo, I just want send mail from my computer without having any account in this services. Because I'm creating an application that generate messages. Then, I want to send this messages from my computer to a remote computer, maybe to a GMail account. |
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| 09:22 | <babilen> | josephseraos: Does this computer have a DNS MX record? (i.e. do you own a domain name for it?) |
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| 09:23 | <lduros> | babilen: thanks |
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| 09:23 | <primeroeso_> | OLAAA |
| 09:23 | <primeroeso> | huolaa |
| 09:23 | <nevyn> | babilen: that's not nessicary to send email just forge from ;_p |
| 09:23 | <primeroeso_> | K TAALL?ç¿ |
| 09:23 | <primeroeso> | aburrida |
| 09:23 | <josephseraos> | babilen, No, it doesn't. |
| 09:23 | <primeroeso> | y tu? |
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| 09:24 | <nevyn> | josephseraos: do you own a domain name that can recieve mail? |
| 09:24 | <nevyn> | at all? |
| 09:24 | <themill> | !es-social primeroeso |
| 09:24 | <dpkg> | primeroeso: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
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| 09:24 | <babilen> | nevyn: heh |
| 09:24 | <primeroeso_> | BNN JEJJEJEJEJEJEJ |
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| 09:25 | <josephseraos> | nevyn, I think I don't need receive, just send. For example, I could send from my computer to an account created on GMail |
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| 09:25 | <nevyn> | josephseraos: what are you going to set from to? |
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| 09:25 | <nevyn> | and if you saysomething bogus people are going to be sad. |
| 09:26 | <babilen> | josephseraos: You need a mail address from which you want to send mails. If you don't have your own domain you need to use one of the freemailers. A local MTA can be setup to use a freemailer's SMTP server as smarthost. (dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config) |
| 09:26 | <RedZero> | \list |
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| 09:27 | <josephseraos> | babilen, Even though I just want to send? |
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| 09:28 | <babilen> | josephseraos: Well, yes. Which address do you want to send it from? |
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| 09:29 | <babilen> | josephseraos: You can't just make up an address and start sending mails from that one. Or actually you can, but no other SMTP server will accept your mails. |
| 09:29 | <josephseraos> | babilen, So, this address could not be my dynamic IP? |
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| 09:31 | <ballison> | i'm having a problem connecting to a debian VM running under ESXi. When I select "Open Console" I get a console interface with the host and a login prompt. When I type in the root password it just fails and returns another prompt. In the logs (/var/log/secure) all I see is " login: pam_unix(login:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=tty1 ruser= rhost= user=root" and "login: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM (null) FOR root, Authentication fail |
| 09:31 | <babilen> | josephseraos: You could use a dyndns service and use that address, but I doubt that many servers accept your mails. (As this would mean that they probably accept a lot of spam) |
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| 09:31 | <weasel> | I bet that's /etc/securetty for you |
| 09:31 | <ballison> | I thought the issue was /etc/securetty as well |
| 09:31 | <ballison> | so I checked /etc/securetty and tty1 is in there. |
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| 09:32 | <weasel> | hmm. also it's pam_unix that complains |
| 09:32 | <weasel> | are you sure you got the password right? |
| 09:32 | <josephseraos> | babilen, Oh great. Now I'm understanding. So, If I have an account, for example, Gmail, now it's possible? |
| 09:32 | <weasel> | modulo any keyboard layout funkyness |
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| 09:33 | <babilen> | josephseraos: Yes, you can configure your local MTA to use gmails SMTP server as smarthost. You authenticate to gmail and it accepts your mails. Other (receiving) SMTP server will, most likely, accept mails from google |
| 09:33 | <ballison> | weasel: yes the password is correct because i can ssh into the guest server |
| 09:34 | <josephseraos> | babilen, Nice! Is easy configure it? I have a Google account |
| 09:34 | <ballison> | i even set the password to something REALLY simple and tested it, and i still get the same "Authentication failure" error |
| 09:35 | <babilen> | josephseraos: It is certainly not hard to -- run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and select that you want to configure it as smarthost. Lets see if I find some google specific information. |
| 09:35 | <babilen> | josephseraos: http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 (if you run into problem let me know) |
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| 09:36 | <josephseraos> | babilen, Thank you. I'll try it. |
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| 09:36 | <josephseraos> | babilen, If I want to create a mail server, what is necessary? |
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| 09:38 | <ballison> | here are the exact logs --> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PFajmeBX |
| 09:38 | <babilen> | josephseraos: You need a domain name -- Set the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record correctly with your registrar -- Email is a bit complicated and nothing I can completely talk you through here. |
| 09:38 | <ballison> | I can ssh to the server but not VMWare "Open Console" login :/ |
| 09:39 | <valdyn> | ballison: we cant really support vmware |
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| 09:39 | <josephseraos> | babilen, Ok, Thank you for help me |
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| 09:39 | <ballison> | valdyn: I know but i went to VMWare IRC channel and they said it's a debian issue because you get the login prompt which means the console is working. |
| 09:39 | <josephseraos> | nevyn, I got it thank you |
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| 09:40 | <ballison> | it is giving me a login prompt.. it's just refusing to let me login as root |
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| 09:42 | <ballison> | and i changed the password to something really simple and it still fails. |
| 09:42 | <ballison> | i even tried adding a user test and seeing if i could login as test. |
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| 09:42 | <ballison> | and it fails too |
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| 09:51 | <cwood> | Where does Debian get notified of security issues in PHP? The site that http://wiki.debian.org/PHP points to (php-security.org) hasn't been updated since 2010. |
| 09:52 | <nevyn> | ballison: what are youtrying to log into? the guest? |
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| 09:53 | <nevyn> | ballison: have you fiddled with any of the pam config at all? |
| 09:55 | <mosno_> | cwood: mailing lists |
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| 10:13 | <harry> | Hello guys, did anyone where is the default configuration files located? I mean all the settings like default theme, font, panel etc. |
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| 10:16 | <babilen> | harry: Configuration files are typically found in /etc/ and in ~/.* (dot-files) -- What are you trying to do? |
| 10:16 | <jhutchins_lt> | harry: For what desktop? What do you mean configuration files? Do you mean preferences set via a control panel? |
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| 10:16 | <harry> | babilen, i will check that out |
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| 10:18 | <harry> | jhutchins_lt, i'm using xfce, yes the preference but I want to modify the default that came when we first install. I want to make it easy for me to create bunch of new users with same settings. |
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| 10:32 | <josephseraos> | babilen, on dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, in a section that ask for "IP-addresses to listen on for incoming SMTP connections" wiki page says to put "127.0.0.1" but by default my system shows this -> "127.0.0.1 ; ::1" Do you know what does this "::1" mean? Do I have remove it from this input? |
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| 10:34 | <babilen> | josephseraos: It is the IPv6 equivalent of 127.0.0.1 (i.e. localhost) -- perfectly valid. |
| 10:35 | <ballison> | i found my problem... ---> mac remote desktop client. :( it's was sending characters that did not match what xterm for example would send. thus why i couldn't login via console inside vmware "open console" |
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| 10:39 | <edo> | /load .xchat2/budus.so |
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| 10:41 | <josephseraos> | babilen, When I'm recording my account information, Is safe store my password without any crypt method? |
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| 10:42 | <babilen> | josephseraos: Just make sure the file is not world-readable. |
| 10:42 | <babilen> | josephseraos: I am not sure if you can encrypt passwords in there, but only root/exim should be able to read that file. |
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| 10:44 | <josephseraos> | babilen, Nice. Is important to make user know that don't have to give root access for everything |
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| 10:45 | <babilen> | josephseraos: Sure, root should only be used if necessary for system administration task. You might also like "sudo" (/msg dpkg sudo ; /msg dpkg sudoers) helpful as it allows your user to temporarily acquire superuser privileges. |
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| 10:48 | <josephseraos> | babilen, Yes, I'm already using it. I don't know if I did the correct way, but I ran this command to make my user work with sudo: "# addgroup me sudo" |
| 10:49 | <babilen> | josephseraos: That is exactly the approach I would have recommended |
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| 10:51 | <lp> | is kerneloops.org offline? where does kerneloops send the reports? |
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| 10:53 | <babilen> | lp: Why should we know? |
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| 10:53 | <lp> | babilen: i hoped i'm not the only one with oopses :-D |
| 10:54 | <babilen> | lp: Well, that is not really Debian related and I am unfortunately not familiar with their infrastructure. ##linux on irc.freenode.net might know more. |
| 10:55 | <lp> | i got a kernel oops with 6.0.3 (just before upgrading to 6.0.4) in __mark_inode_dirty - should i be worried? |
| 10:56 | <lp> | just wanted to look it up on kerneloops.org, and saw it's down |
| 10:56 | <nevyn> | babilen: kernel.org compramise. still not back |
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| 10:58 | <josephseraos> | babilen, "Your account name of your local Debian box: YOUR-USER-NAME" is my account that I'm using? |
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| 11:00 | <nevyn> | josephseraos: yes |
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| 11:05 | <saulo> | I have a chroot system and the audio do not works. I got this link to have pulseaudio working at chroot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52484/how-to-get-pulseaudio-working-from-chroot But I'm worried about the results of this. There are another way to have this working? Or can I do this work only when I open the chroot system? Or put this in a script I can use to do/undo this? |
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| 11:07 | <josephseraos> | babilen, After configured, how I try if it is working? |
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| 11:11 | <gabriele> | list |
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| 11:11 | <strefli3> | Anyone know what happens when a bug report is submitted to a package that does not have a maintainer? |
| 11:11 | <gabriele> | !LIST |
| 11:11 | <dpkg> | gabriele: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 11:17 | <gabriele> | !list |
| 11:17 | <dpkg> | gabriele: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 11:17 | <gabriele> | list/ |
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| 11:21 | <josephseraos> | After configured exim4 how do I test if it is working? |
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| 11:23 | <t35c> | red的 |
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| 11:24 | <skaczor> | Any thoughts on changing package rtkit to a less ominous name? It sounds like a rootkit :-( |
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| 11:29 | <Myon> | skaczor: talk to the author |
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| 11:32 | <unixabg> | Greetings, I have a notebooks running squeeze and the volume is not as loud as it was with the os it shipped with. |
| 11:32 | <unixabg> | I have alsamixer from cmdline at max on all volume related settings. |
| 11:32 | <unixabg> | is there a simple setting I am missing? |
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| 11:32 | <skaczor> | I guess that I will email the package maintainer as described here: http://www.debian.org/support#maintainers |
| 11:34 | <retro|blah> | skaczor: I think he meant the upstream author of the package. :) |
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| 11:35 | <SynrG> | unixabg: hda_intel i guess? which codec? and which kernel? |
| 11:36 | <Intrepid1> | May I ask here a question? |
| 11:36 | <SynrG> | in the case of eeepc (each with varying hda_intel codecs), squeeze didn't always support all models well |
| 11:36 | <SynrG> | but a more recent alsa may help |
| 11:36 | <SynrG> | !ask |
| 11:36 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 11:38 | <unixabg> | SynrG: ICH9 HD audio |
| 11:39 | <Intrepid1> | Ok Thanks, I am currently running Debian wheezy (sid version, installed yesterday over the daily builded network iso), everything works fine, except the WiFi. I installed the propritary driver, and I followed the instructions in the Wiki. Now, the KDE network manager says that I am connected, I also get an IP address, but surfing is not possible. |
| 11:40 | <skaczor> | RealtimeKit is the upstream name, which is OK. The Debian packager decided to use the abbreviation rtkit from git repository |
| 11:40 | <skaczor> | Anyhow, I sent an email to rtkit@packages.debian.org to weight in my opinion. Thanks |
| 11:41 | <Intrepid1> | The KDE Network Manager shows WLAN networks around my location, so the driver I installed was probably the right one |
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| 11:45 | <SynrG> | Intrepid1: take it to #debian-next which supports wheezy/sid? |
| 11:45 | <SynrG> | Intrepid1: i am there as well and would be happy to continue ... |
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| 11:45 | <Intrepid1> | ok, I switch the channel |
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| 11:46 | <chealer> | Intrepid1: there is no "sid version" of Debian wheezy |
| 11:46 | <Intrepid1> | Wait a moment, I'm gonna look what I've downloaded |
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| 11:47 | <josephseraos> | nevyn, After I've configured exim |
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| 11:48 | <josephseraos> | nevyn, Sorry. After I've configured exim4 how can I know if it is working for send email? Could you help me? I followed this page to configure it http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 |
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| 12:08 | <josephseraos> | Hi everybody: After I've configured exim4 how can I know if it is working for send email? Could you help me? I followed this page to configure it http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 |
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| 12:11 | <petemc> | josephseraos: tail -f /var/log/exim4/mainlog , send a mail |
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| 12:14 | <josephseraos> | petemc, So, how I try to send an email? |
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| 12:19 | <retrospectacus> | josephseraos: ''echo this is a test | mail -s test joseph@seraos.com'' |
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| 12:28 | <set> | ciaoo ragazzi!!!!!!!! |
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| 12:28 | <josephseraos> | retrospectacus, Great! It's working. Thank you. |
| 12:28 | <set> | ciaooooooooooooooooo |
| 12:28 | <set> | !list |
| 12:28 | <dpkg> | set: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 12:33 | <Guest1137> | hi |
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| 12:35 | <retrospectacus> | !congratulate josephseraos |
| 12:35 | <dpkg> | Woohoo josephseraos, you did it! |
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| 12:48 | <josephseraos> | retrospectacus, is possible send attachment? |
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| 12:53 | <retrospectacus> | josephseraos: normally you just use any email client and set that machine to be your outgoing server |
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| 12:54 | <retrospectacus> | the "mail" command will do attachments though I think. ''man mail'' |
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| 12:55 | <josephseraos> | retrospectacus, Since I'm developing an application that generates some messages automatically, then I would like to send it by itself. I don't want use a client like outlook, neither evolution. |
| 12:56 | <retrospectacus> | what language are you developing in? Most have mail bindings |
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| 13:08 | <Theta> | hey |
| 13:09 | <Theta> | I'm getting this error trying to apt-get update: |
| 13:09 | <Theta> | E: Release file expired, ignoring ftp://mirror.lstn.net/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/Release (invalid since 2d 21h 41min 51s) |
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| 13:09 | <Theta> | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 13:09 | <weasel> | use a different mirror |
| 13:09 | <weasel> | this one's broken |
| 13:10 | <Theta> | Ok what's a good one to replace it with? |
| 13:10 | <weasel> | depends on where you are. |
| 13:10 | <Theta> | Servers in Texas. |
| 13:10 | <weasel> | ftp.us.debian.org? |
| 13:10 | <sney> | cdn.debian.net has good results if you're using your isp's dns |
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| 13:12 | <Adri> | hola |
| 13:12 | <Theta> | Oh lstn must have been my hosts mirror. |
| 13:12 | <Adri> | quien eres |
| 13:12 | <retrospectacus> | !es |
| 13:12 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 13:12 | <Adri> | aaaa |
| 13:13 | <Adri> | bbbbfhvbfhvbhfbvhfbvhfbvhfbv |
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| 13:13 | <Adri> | hola |
| 13:13 | <Dani> | hola |
| 13:13 | <Adri> | yijaaa |
| 13:13 | <Dani> | jajaja |
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| 13:13 | <Dani> | noooooooooooo |
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| 13:14 | <Dani> | siiii |
| 13:14 | <Adri> | yijaaa |
| 13:14 | <Dani> | otra cosa mas |
| 13:14 | <Adri> | willi wonka mola mazo |
| 13:14 | <Adri> | wjajaa |
| 13:14 | <sney> | oh, it's new netbook time already |
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| 13:14 | <Dani> | q? |
| 13:14 | <Adri> | nah |
| 13:14 | <retrospectacus> | !es-social |
| 13:14 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
| 13:15 | <sney> | aka "hey what does this xchat thing do" time |
| 13:15 | <Adri> | mira inglesito comemocos comprate un perro |
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| 13:15 | <Dani> | eso |
| 13:15 | <Adri> | jajaja |
| 13:15 | <Dani> | aaaaaa |
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| 13:16 | <Adri> | anbee troncooo como ty por akiii |
| 13:16 | <Adri> | edani |
| 13:16 | <Adri> | hueles |
| 13:16 | <Adri> | a |
| 13:16 | <Dani> | eque |
| 13:16 | <Adri> | MIERDA |
| 13:16 | <sney> | !ops spaniards |
| 13:16 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: sney complains about: spaniards |
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| 13:17 | <Dani> | toto |
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| 13:17 | -!- | Dani was kicked from #debian by weasel [hola] |
| 13:18 | <abrotman> | sney: honestly .. i misread that the first time .. and i won't tell you what i thought it said |
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| 13:18 | <sney> | then I'll continue to have no idea |
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| 13:43 | <fabian__> | Hello I am looking for a tool to measure the line, someone knows a tool? |
| 13:45 | <Sicelo> | heh, what line? |
| 13:46 | <fabian__> | the inet line |
| 13:47 | <sney> | tape measure? |
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| 13:48 | <fabian__> | @sney what?? |
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| 13:49 | <sney> | fabian__: your question makes no sense |
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| 13:49 | <sney> | !de |
| 13:49 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 13:51 | <robertf> | /names/names |
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| 14:03 | <iobound> | does anyone know why there are no armel packages for php5-5.3.3-7+squeeze6, only +squeeze5 ? |
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| 14:05 | <shiki> | ... |
| 14:05 | <scientes> | http://release.debian.org/transitions/ ? |
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| 14:06 | <scientes> | its all 5 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/php5-common |
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| 14:08 | <iobound> | no, -6 was released as an update, i got it on an amd64 box, but there are no armel packages |
| 14:08 | <Black_Prince> | judd: versions php5-common --arch armel --release squeeze |
| 14:08 | <judd> | Package: php5-common on armel -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3 |
| 14:09 | <Black_Prince> | hm ... |
| 14:09 | <iobound> | looks like that doesn't consider security.debian.org |
| 14:09 | <Black_Prince> | judd: versions php5-common --arch armel --release squeeze-security |
| 14:09 | <judd> | Package: php5-common on armel -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3 |
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| 14:09 | <iobound> | that must be wrong, there are squeeze5 for armel |
| 14:09 | <iobound> | http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/php5/ |
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| 14:10 | <Black_Prince> | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/armel/php5-common |
| 14:10 | <Black_Prince> | yeah, true ... |
| 14:10 | <Black_Prince> | Even i386 is still squeeze5 |
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| 14:10 | <Black_Prince> | Buildds are probably not competed yet to push them to mirror |
| 14:10 | <iobound> | really? there are squeeze6 i386 debs in the directory i pasted |
| 14:11 | <scientes> | yes i386 is squeeze6 |
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| 14:11 | <iobound> | oh ok, because the DSA went out saying the packages were ready for download |
| 14:11 | <scientes> | but no spar nips armel |
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| 14:11 | * | Black_Prince still gets squeeze3 on his pc ... |
| 14:11 | <Lantizia> | OK I need a sanity check... what user/group should you use for a file or directory that you _don't want_ to have an owner? I'm guessing nobody:nogroup |
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| 14:12 | <Black_Prince> | Ah, now I have squeeze6 |
| 14:13 | <sney> | Lantizia: yes |
| 14:13 | <scientes> | Lantizia, actually root:root |
| 14:13 | <Lantizia> | sney, right - now are _all_ users members of nogroup (is that something built in to the kernel or something) ? |
| 14:14 | <scientes> | nobody:nogroup is for processes |
| 14:14 | <scientes> | and ftp shares, et |
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| 14:14 | <chealer> | iobound: did you read the related DSA? |
| 14:14 | <scientes> | but the files should be root:root |
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| 14:15 | <scientes> | as then only root can change permissions |
| 14:15 | <Lantizia> | scientes, i'm not doing that it'd look stupid |
| 14:15 | <scientes> | its not suid |
| 14:15 | <Black_Prince> | You are right, squeeze6 is in 386 but not in armel |
| 14:15 | <iobound> | chealer: yes it says "updated packages are now available" and mentions the squeeze6, anyway the folks in #debian-security confirmed they are still pending a build for armel |
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| 14:15 | <scientes> | Lantizia, nothing is hard coded into the kernel except root |
| 14:16 | <ivanov4> | bonsoir :) |
| 14:16 | <chealer> | iobound: that is certainly confusing, but it does say "NOTE: at the time of release packages for some architectures are still being built. They will be installed into the archive as soon as they arrive." |
| 14:16 | <scientes> | <Lantizia> scientes, i'm not doing that it'd look stupid |
| 14:17 | <scientes> | if you set it to be owned by nouser, then nouser can delete it, etc |
| 14:17 | <iobound> | chealer: ah ok i though that was just part of the original, quoted 2399-1 advisory |
| 14:17 | <scientes> | so maybe make a new user |
| 14:18 | <Lantizia> | scientes, alright here is the full story... i want an nfs share where when it is mounted on a machine (that several people can log in as) anyone can read/write to any file |
| 14:18 | <Lantizia> | WITHOUT those users having to know anything about permissiosn |
| 14:18 | <scientes> | ahhhh, then create a user annonymous |
| 14:18 | <scientes> | and use squash_all=annonymous |
| 14:18 | <sney> | you could share it with cifs in share mode, which does away with permissions entirely |
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| 14:19 | <Lantizia> | sney, nah I know about that - I want NFS |
| 14:19 | <scientes> | or something like that |
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| 14:19 | <kop> | Lantizia: (or use <user private groups>) |
| 14:19 | <Lantizia> | scientes, ok well I already squash all to nobody:nogroup - same deal I suppose. ... but there is another issue |
| 14:19 | <scientes> | http://linux.die.net/man/5/exports |
| 14:19 | <Lantizia> | read it |
| 14:20 | <scientes> | Lantizia, no, not same deal, cause adding files to nobody:nogroup gives nobody permissions |
| 14:20 | <Lantizia> | all the files are -rw-rw-r-- nobody nogroup and all the dirs are drwxrwxr-x nobody nogroup |
| 14:20 | <scientes> | so that doesn't fit with other uses of those uid/gid s |
| 14:20 | <Lantizia> | in my terminal as an any non-privledged user (like bob user 1000) I can delete anything I like |
| 14:20 | <Lantizia> | but use a file manager like thunar to delete something and it says it can't make a trash directory |
| 14:21 | <Lantizia> | what I don't get it - how can I delete ANYTHING in the first place when those dirs/files don't have +w for others ?! |
| 14:21 | <scientes> | Lantizia, thats because trash is at the root of the partition |
| 14:21 | <scientes> | its a special folder |
| 14:21 | <scientes> | you have to create it sticky with the root account |
| 14:21 | <Lantizia> | scientes, you mean the root of the NFS share |
| 14:21 | <josephseraos> | If I want turn my computer to be a FTP server, what is necessary for this? |
| 14:21 | <scientes> | Lantizia, I believe so |
| 14:21 | <Lantizia> | scientes, but I can make other directories in the nfs share root ok! |
| 14:22 | <Lantizia> | without being root! |
| 14:22 | <sney> | josephseraos: install ftp server software and configure it |
| 14:22 | <scientes> | http://www.ramendik.ru/docs/trashspec.html |
| 14:22 | <josephseraos> | sney: is ftp it's name? |
| 14:22 | <scientes> | http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/trash-spec |
| 14:23 | <sney> | josephseraos: there are a few options, proftpd, vsftpd, etc - do aptitude search ftpd, or google around |
| 14:23 | <sney> | they have different pros and cons |
| 14:23 | <scientes> | ahh you have to set $TRASH environment variable it looks like |
| 14:23 | <scientes> | "Important note on scope. This specification currently does NOT define trashing on remote machines where multiuser permissions are implemented but the numeric user ID is not supported, like FTP sites and CIFS shares. In systems implementing this specification, trashing of files from such machines is to be done only to the user's home trash directory (if at all). A future version may address this limitation." |
| 14:24 | <Lantizia> | scientes, what so if you want to trash is MOVES the files locally! |
| 14:24 | <Lantizia> | *it |
| 14:24 | <scientes> | I know nautilus just shows a "cant be moved to trash--confirm delete?" |
| 14:24 | <josephseraos> | sney, When I installed my Debian, there was an optino like "install ftp server". Do you know what service does Debian use in this case? |
| 14:25 | <scientes> | josephseraos, you could check it out with aptitude |
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| 14:25 | <josephseraos> | scientes, How do I do this? |
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| 14:25 | <scientes> | well, maybe tasksel |
| 14:26 | <jordanm> | josephseraos: are you sure it wasn't "file server"? if so, that does not include a FTP server |
| 14:26 | <sney> | it's probably vsftpd, it has a pretty high popcon number |
| 14:26 | <sney> | or if there's no ftp server task, then never mind |
| 14:26 | <scientes> | vsftpd is recommended |
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| 14:27 | <scientes> | task-file-server: samba + nfs-kernel-server |
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| 14:27 | <josephseraos> | jordanm, I'm not sure, but when I was installing my Debian, there was some option like: install sql database, install web serve, install print server, and I guess there was FTP server, but I'm not sure about that |
| 14:28 | <jordanm> | josephseraos: I believe it was "file server" |
| 14:28 | <scientes> | there is no ftp option |
| 14:28 | <scientes> | run "tasksel" to get that same menu josephseraos |
| 14:29 | <scientes> | but vsftpd is recommended |
| 14:29 | <josephseraos> | jordanm, Oh, I think is it. But it's not the same think, ok? |
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| 14:30 | <josephseraos> | scientes, Yes, there's a File Server, but not FTP server. It's not the same thing, ok? |
| 14:31 | <scientes> | josephseraos, not the same thing, correct |
| 14:31 | <Pitxyoki> | An FTP server is a file server. |
| 14:31 | <Pitxyoki> | A file server might not be an FTP server. |
| 14:31 | <Pitxyoki> | :-) |
| 14:31 | <scientes> | HTTP is actually more efficient with HTTP/1.1 |
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| 14:32 | <scientes> | thats why debian packages/CDs are primarily distributed via HTTP |
| 14:32 | <sney> | and sftp is more secure/easier to set up for personal file storage etc |
| 14:32 | <Pitxyoki> | Huge bandwidth and low latency are actually more effecient. |
| 14:32 | * | Pitxyoki refrains from trolling too much. |
| 14:32 | <Pitxyoki> | :X |
| 14:33 | <scientes> | ^^+1 to sftp, espially with gvfs integration with nautilus/thunar |
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| 14:36 | <scientes> | oo pcfamfm also supports gvfs |
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| 14:37 | <josephseraos> | scientes, jordanm sney I'm creating an Application that generates some video files, and I need to send them automatically to another computer. Maybe it's in other place, but connected to the Net. I was looking for sending mail, but I saw some problems. Then, I'm trying to use FTP. I Think I'm in a better way to send files from one computer to other in anywhere. Then, I want to configure a computer to receive this files. Then, I'll try to send using |
| 14:37 | <josephseraos> | FTP |
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| 14:39 | <jasox> | How to get and chinese fonts in browser on debian? |
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| 14:40 | <kop> | josephseraos: ftp sucks. Use http, perhaps with webdav, or scp/sftp if you want security/controlled access. |
| 14:40 | <sney> | jasox: install the font packages |
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| 14:41 | <jasox> | sney, can you give me specific name of package ? |
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| 14:42 | <sney> | jasox: I don't know them offhand, usually if you search for 'ttf' you can find them in the list. ttf-vlgothic is a japanese one that has several chinese characters, but I don't think it has all of them |
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| 14:44 | <josephseraos> | kop, Thanks. This is the app. It generates some video files in a directory. I'm using Python, so, I want to do this automatically. I want in the same time the program has generated one video, the program send it without anybody touch the computer. |
| 14:45 | <scientes> | ttf-dejavu is a great font, don't know if it covers all of chinese |
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| 14:45 | <josephseraos> | kop, I would lik it send this video to anyplace: email (but its not the better way, because gmail limits the amount of emails we send per day). Could be for FTP or any other way |
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| 14:46 | <scientes> | jasox, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support_%28East_Asian%29#Debian-based_GNU.2FLinux |
| 14:46 | <scientes> | that will also let you see what fonts you have |
| 14:47 | <scientes> | ttf-arphic-uming for chinese |
| 14:47 | <jasox> | Thanks scientes |
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| 14:52 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there an addon to provide a "bounce" button for iceweasel? |
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| 14:55 | <josephseraos> | kop, Do you have any idea what's the better way to solve this step for my application? |
| 14:56 | <josephseraos> | I don't need transfer just information, text or message. I have to transfer files too |
| 14:57 | <josephseraos> | I was thinking about something that seems like Dropbox |
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| 14:58 | <scientes> | josephseraos, sftp with certificates would make you not have to worry about security as much |
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| 14:58 | <scientes> | i.e. scp |
| 14:58 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... found an addon that adds such a function to a menu - that will do for now |
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| 15:00 | <josephseraos> | scientes, is SFTP the same as SSH File Transfer Protocol? |
| 15:00 | <scientes> | josephseraos, yes |
| 15:00 | <scientes> | its done by openssh-server |
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| 15:01 | <josephseraos> | scientes, what about just ftp? |
| 15:03 | <scientes> | IIRC ftp passwords are sent in plain text |
| 15:03 | <josephseraos> | scientes, So, is easy configure one computer to receive this files? How could I do it? |
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| 15:04 | <scientes> | add a user, use password first, then use ssh-copy-id to put the keys in .ssh/authorized_keys |
| 15:04 | <scientes> | and then turn off passwords |
| 15:05 | <scientes> | you install with openssh-server package |
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| 15:09 | <josephseraos> | scientes, "adduser newuser" ? |
| 15:09 | <scientes> | josephseraos, yes |
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| 15:15 | <josephseraos> | scientes, what is this 'key'? |
| 15:16 | <scientes> | josephseraos, an openssh public key |
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| 15:18 | <josephseraos> | scientes, I've just created a new user. I called it 'camera' |
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| 15:18 | <josephseraos> | now must I run ssh-copy-id? I can't do this work |
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| 15:19 | <scientes> | ssh-copy-id from the computer you want to connect to the computer with user:camera |
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| 15:19 | <josephseraos> | scientes, when I run ssh-copy-id it returns: "/usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found" |
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| 15:22 | <scientes> | ssh-keygen |
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| 15:27 | <josephseraos> | scientes, nothing was necessary to connect. I just typed: "ssh -l camera 192.168.0.148" then it showed some warnings, then, asked me camera's password. so, I logged without any problem" |
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| 15:28 | <scientes> | josephseraos, yes that works |
| 15:28 | <josephseraos> | scientes, If I want to send a file for this computer, what do I do? |
| 15:28 | <scientes> | but if you do ssh-copy-id after ssh-keygen, you can login without a password |
| 15:28 | <scientes> | but also secure |
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| 15:31 | <josephseraos> | scientes, so, how send file for camera? |
| 15:31 | <josephseraos> | to* camera |
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| 15:32 | <scientes> | man scp |
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| 15:41 | <josephseraos> | scientes, Great I got it. using scp I could send a file. But if I'm not in a LAN. Is there how to copy a file like 'scp' too? |
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| 15:48 | <josephseraos> | scientes, I know my Dynamic IP, so I'd like to send file from my house, for instance, to a computer that is installed in my university |
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| 15:50 | <petemc> | josephseraos: scp works over the internet as long as one host is accessible |
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| 15:52 | <josephseraos> | petemc, I can access my computer. for web, I said to apache listen one port, and said to router to accept entries to this port. This way I can access my computer from other anywhere computer. Now I'd like to send a file from a computer to other anywhere |
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| 15:56 | <josephseraos> | petemc, Do you know what I mean? |
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| 15:58 | <scientes> | josephseraos, use scp from your house, to the university computer |
| 15:58 | <scientes> | but the other is also possible, use inadyn and dyn-dns.com or freedns.afraid.org |
| 15:59 | <josephseraos> | scientes, I I know just its IP is possible instead using the dns? |
| 15:59 | <scientes> | of course, just type in the ip address |
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| 15:59 | <scientes> | as the host |
| 16:02 | <yetr2> | If you are trying to send a file from elsewhere in the internet to your home machine, and you are using a combo router/gateway device(linksys,dlink,cisco,netgear), you need to know the IP the gateway device has pulled, then you also need to set up port forwarding from the gateway device to the machine you actually want to connect to. to use SCP, you'll need to forward port 22. the second piece of information you need is the IP add |
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| 16:03 | <josephseraos> | scp file_to_send user@dynamic_ip:folder? how to say what computer? |
| 16:03 | <yetr2> | scp /etc/foo user@remotehost:/etc/ |
| 16:04 | <houms> | joseph, if i understand you correctly you have dynamic ip and nated machines behine the dynamic IP? |
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| 16:05 | <yetr2> | that will copy the file foo on your computer in /etc/ to 'remotehost' using 'user' as the login name, copying it to the directory /etc on that 'remotehost' |
| 16:05 | <yetr2> | pretend it's the cp command, you can just specify a remotehost where to push/pull the information to/from |
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| 16:08 | <bunny> | what's the quickest way to destroy my harddisk? problem is it's a bit unusable. get lots of io errors in syslog. it's got data on it (company accounts) so just want to nuke it. |
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| 16:09 | <josephseraos> | houms, I have a router and some machines running under this dynamic IP. |
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| 16:09 | <Xdept> | bunny, use dban |
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| 16:09 | <Xdept> | Dariks boot and nuke |
| 16:09 | <exioprecisioned> | hi! |
| 16:09 | <exioprecisioned> | i'm spanish |
| 16:10 | <exioprecisioned> | : |
| 16:10 | <exioprecisioned> | como puedo ocultar mi ip |
| 16:10 | <exioprecisioned> | ? |
| 16:10 | <EmleyMoor> | !es |
| 16:10 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 16:10 | <houms> | so you should port forward to each machine you want to access from outside |
| 16:10 | <bunny> | Xdept: will that work still if the disk is unreliable? seem to be able to read ok but writes fail |
| 16:10 | <josephseraos> | exioprecisioned, Uses google translate to say what you want |
| 16:11 | <houms> | so for example to scp to machine 1 on your LAN port forward 2222 to 22 so that you hit your public IP on port 2222 and that forwards to machine one |
| 16:11 | <josephseraos> | exioprecisioned, Use google translate para hablar lo que quieres. Perdon soy brasileiro :) |
| 16:11 | <houms> | then forward port 2223 to 22 on machine 2 so when you login to public ip on port 2223 it connects to machine 2 |
| 16:11 | <Xdept> | bunny, It should work? Just put it on like a really absurd amount of passes |
| 16:11 | <exioprecisioned> | ::) |
| 16:11 | <exioprecisioned> | ooook |
| 16:12 | <bunny> | Xdept: cool. ta |
| 16:13 | <josephseraos> | houms, I do this in my router? |
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| 16:14 | <houms> | yes port forward is setup on your router |
| 16:14 | <josephseraos> | houms, If you can see, I put my apache to listen 4001 port. Then I put my router to redirect for an specific local IP. see: http://201.46.58.159:4001/ |
| 16:14 | <exioprecisioned> | how I can hide my IP? |
| 16:15 | <bunny> | exiop, put a cover over it |
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| 16:15 | <EmleyMoor> | exioprecisioned: Why are you wanting to? |
| 16:15 | <bunny> | EmleyMoor: it's grotesque. |
| 16:16 | <exioprecisioned> | EmleyMoor, i don't know |
| 16:16 | <EmleyMoor> | You don't know why you want to but decided to ask anyway? |
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| 16:17 | <exioprecisioned> | yes |
| 16:17 | <bunny> | amnesia is awful common these days. |
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| 16:18 | <josephseraos> | bunny, When I por forward to comp 1, I say private port: 22 and public port 2222? |
| 16:18 | <exioprecisioned> | as I can hide my IP? |
| 16:18 | <bunny> | josephsearos: how you port forwarding? via iptables and DNAT? |
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| 16:19 | <EmleyMoor> | exioprecisioned: To hide an IP, you have to have another one to hide it behind... |
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| 16:20 | <exioprecisioned> | as do the whois? |
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| 16:20 | <EmleyMoor> | exioprecisioned: To hide an IP, you have to have another one to hide it behind... |
| 16:21 | <bunny> | josephseraos iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp --dport 2222 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.1:22 |
| 16:21 | <bunny> | some shit like dat |
| 16:21 | <exioprecisioned> | how? |
| 16:21 | <bunny> | exioprecisioned: just go download tor like all the other skiddies |
| 16:22 | <josephseraos> | bunny, hey, if you access this http://201.46.58.159:2222/ you can see that I'm accessing my computer. So, how I'd use scp now? |
| 16:22 | <bunny> | josephseraos: you don't need dnat for scp, you can just tunnel past firewalls. |
| 16:22 | <exioprecisioned> | ok |
| 16:22 | <exioprecisioned> | bye |
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| 16:23 | <josephseraos> | bunny, how come |
| 16:24 | <bunny> | josephseraos. i mean there's more than one way to skin a cat. in this case, tunneling may be simpler. and more secure |
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| 16:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there anything I can do in an exim filter to discard messages that weren't bounced from a real user on my domain? |
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| 16:25 | <josephseraos> | I got it using scp -P 2222 file_to_send user@Dynamic_IP:folder |
| 16:25 | <josephseraos> | bunny, ^ |
| 16:25 | <bunny> | josephseraos: just arbritrarilly forwarding a public port to a local one is not a great idea. it leaves holes in your firewall unless you're going to put some further iptables rules in |
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| 16:26 | <bunny> | and even then it's messy |
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| 16:27 | <josephseraos> | bunny, You're saying that tunneling is another way more secure? I do this without redirect from my router? |
| 16:29 | <bunny> | josephseraos: im just saying that if you want to access an internal host then setting up a remote tunnel may be a better way than just dnatt'ing if that remote host doesn't have any publically exposed ports. and at least the tunnel is only valid for a short while |
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| 16:29 | <bunny> | both expose you to possible attack. it's a question of which you see is a more active threat. best advice is to have zero tunnels and zero opened ports but that's usually too much of a restraint to accomplish what you want :) |
| 16:30 | <josephseraos> | bunny, I've never working with a tunel. How could I do this? |
| 16:30 | <bunny> | josephseraos: look on google for ssh remote tunnel |
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| 16:30 | <josephseraos> | bunny, This way is not necessary configure router? |
| 16:30 | <bunny> | josephseraos: also make sure you use rsa keys and public key auth |
| 16:31 | <bunny> | josephseraos: agnostic to underlying network arch. |
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| 16:31 | <bunny> | josephseraos: so no. no need to touch nowt on any intermediary devices. |
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| 16:32 | <josephseraos> | bunny, I think it's what I'm looking for. Maybe I'll not have access to the router device |
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| 16:32 | <bunny> | josephsearos: perfect then |
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| 16:33 | <josephseraos> | Thenk you for your help. |
| 16:33 | <bunny> | emleymoor: err, you mean like callouts? |
| 16:33 | <bunny> | josephseraos: welcome |
| 16:34 | <josephseraos> | bunny, do you know python? |
| 16:34 | <bunny> | josephsearos: you mean the snake or the scripting language? |
| 16:34 | <EmleyMoor> | bunny: I don't know what callouts are/are like... |
| 16:34 | <josephseraos> | bunny, scripting langhage |
| 16:34 | <josephseraos> | lang* |
| 16:34 | <bunny> | joseph; nope, but heard good things; will have a play one day |
| 16:35 | <bunny> | emleymoor: i check spam for real users via callouts to the primary mx. not sure if that's what you mean? |
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| 16:35 | <josephseraos> | bunny, It's a very very nice lang to learn. When you can, study this. |
| 16:35 | <bunny> | i mean… i check that the recipients are valid on my backup mx via a callot to the primary mx when available |
| 16:35 | <bunny> | s/callot/callout |
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| 16:36 | <bunny> | josephseraos: if only i had the time :)) |
| 16:36 | <EmleyMoor> | bunny: No - in this case I want an address that will pipe bounced mails into a command - but only if the address that bounced it is a genuine one on my system |
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| 16:37 | <bunny> | EmleMoor: not done anything like that |
| 16:37 | <EmleyMoor> | I suppose, if I can detect where it was bounced from, an internal callout might be useful |
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| 16:38 | <bunny> | emleymoor: there is a pipe transport |
| 16:38 | <josephseraos> | bunny, I found a some pages titled "Setting up a reverse SSH tunnel" is it what I have look for? |
| 16:39 | <EmleyMoor> | bunny: I know - but I want only to pipe messages that were genuinely bounced by one of my users... and just pour the rest straight down /dev/null |
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| 16:39 | <bunny> | jose: yes |
| 16:40 | <bunny> | emleymoor: by genuine you mean if the SENDER was genuine? |
| 16:40 | <EmleyMoor> | If the bouncer was genuine |
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| 16:41 | <EmleyMoor> | (as opposed to the original sender) |
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| 16:42 | <bunny> | emley you might be able to do some ${lookup{$domain}lsearch* shizznizz |
| 16:43 | <bunny> | emley you running virtual domains? |
| 16:43 | <EmleyMoor> | bunny: No, just one real one |
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| 16:46 | <bunny> | emleymoor, not tried it myself but what about http://slett.net/spam-filtering-for-mx/exim-bounces.html ? |
| 16:47 | <EmleyMoor> | bunny: DSNs are not what I mean by "bounce" |
| 16:48 | <bunny> | im wondering if i should watch final destination 5 knowing full well it'll be shit (but offset that with a beer) or to try and fix a hardisk in a "broken" laptop |
| 16:48 | <bunny> | emley: ah ok. i thought you just meant by bounce , a null sender |
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| 16:48 | <EmleyMoor> | "bounce" as in "redirect unmodified" |
| 16:48 | <bunny> | and so i was thinkkng you only wanted to pipe bounces where sender != <> |
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| 16:49 | <bunny> | emley: you mean boune with headers intact. i see i see :) |
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| 16:49 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm just looking for a more secure way than leaving the pipes open to the public... |
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| 16:51 | -!- | retrospectacles is now known as retrospectacus |
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| 16:57 | * | EmleyMoor thinks he's just found an addon for Icedove that does what he wants without needing pipes... |
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| 16:58 | <bunny> | emley: it's not the bounce addon is it? |
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| 17:04 | <EmleyMoor> | How can I add the "--allow-tell" switch to spamassassin? |
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| 17:05 | <petemc> | /etc/default/spamassassin |
| 17:05 | <petemc> | if you're using spamd |
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| 17:05 | <EmleyMoor> | petemc: I am... thanks... |
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| 17:12 | <jeremiah__> | how do you install firefox onto lubuntu? |
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| 17:12 | <Xdept> | apt-get install firefox? This is Debian Channel |
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| 17:19 | <Posterdati> | hi |
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| 17:20 | <Posterdati> | please I need help with kernel 3.1 and NV44A on wheezy... |
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| 17:20 | <Posterdati> | X segfault |
| 17:20 | <jordanm> | !bts |
| 17:20 | <dpkg> | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 17:34 | <Posterdati> | :( |
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| 17:35 | <Posterdati> | jordanm: it didn't help me so much |
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| 17:37 | <ml|> | Posterdati: better place to ask about wheezy/sid: #debian-next |
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| 17:40 | <Posterdati> | ml|: thanks |
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| 17:53 | <Xdept> | What is the command to drop all ipv6? |
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| 17:54 | <themill> | !noipv6 |
| 17:54 | <dpkg> | To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel (excluding loongson-2f flavour), add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
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| 18:02 | <belos> | please confirm or deny: The preferred way to install testing (wheezy) is to install stable, change the apt sources, and dist-upgrade, correct? |
| 18:03 | <themill> | that's the more reliable way of doing so |
| 18:04 | <haylo> | update then dist-upgrade is what i do belos |
| 18:05 | <haylo> | after thats doen i put a repo in the sources to draw .deb packages from |
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| 18:09 | <belos> | thanks |
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| 18:13 | <ChrisC`> | Anyone in here familure with slmodem? |
| 18:14 | <ml|> | belos: you might hit... borked: wheezy upgrades (#639290, #638950) as in bugs in BTS |
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| 18:15 | <belos> | ml|: thanks for the heads up |
| 18:15 | <ml|> | np |
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| 18:15 | <ChrisC`> | I am attempting to use slmodem w/ Squeeze. I have got it almost done, I think. I am now getting the following error: cannot set channels for playback: Invalid argument |
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| 18:16 | <ChrisC`> | I suspect it's an issue with ALSA |
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| 18:16 | <ChrisC`> | ran slmodemd w/ arguments: --alsa -c USA HW:0,1 |
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| 18:29 | <jhutchins_lt> | ,info slmodem |
| 18:29 | <judd> | No package named 'slmodem' was found in squeeze/i386. |
| 18:30 | <EmleyMoor> | It's third-party and closed source |
| 18:30 | <EmleyMoor> | It can be a pain at times... not had need of it myself for a good three years |
| 18:31 | <jhutchins_lt> | http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem |
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| 18:31 | <ChrisC`> | Is there any better alternative, EmleyMoor? |
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| 18:35 | <xeroph> | join |
| 18:35 | <xeroph> | #anonops |
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| 18:40 | <ChrisC`> | looks like I'm using too old of a version of ALSA |
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| 18:48 | <mrd> | need help in making my ip untraceable can any one help |
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| 18:49 | <mrd> | need help in making my ip untraceable can any one help |
| 18:49 | <themill> | dpkg: tell mrd about repeat |
| 18:50 | <mrd> | what repat |
| 18:50 | <mrd> | do i need to register |
| 18:50 | <mrd> | am i not allowed to ask ant ques |
| 18:51 | <EmleyMoor> | Why do you want to make your IP untraceable? |
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| 18:52 | <cyril> | mrd: What do you mean "untraceable"? |
| 18:52 | <themill> | mrd: http://www.oftc.net/oftc/UserCloaks |
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| 18:52 | * | themill takes a wild guess |
| 18:52 | <daemonkeeper> | mrd: That's nothing you could prevent, anything you could do is security by obscurity unless you run your own autonomous system. Of course you can use a socks proxy like Tor to obfuscate your IP. However themill's guess seems ok too. |
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| 18:54 | <Partempt> | What settings would be optimum for installing squeeze on an SSD? EXT2? EXT3? noatime? |
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| 18:56 | <ChrisC`> | wow |
| 18:56 | <ChrisC`> | The Debian repos are really outdated |
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| 18:56 | <EmleyMoor> | ChrisC`: How? |
| 18:58 | <sney> | squeeze was frozen over a year ago. Nobody seems to understand debian's definition of 'stable'. Or he's just trollin. |
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| 19:00 | <EmleyMoor> | It's stable - as in "not wobbly" |
| 19:01 | <daemonkeeper> | sney: Well over a year ago in fact. |
| 19:01 | <EmleyMoor> | (and before you ask, yes, I do know Scott James Remnant!) |
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| 19:01 | <daemonkeeper> | sney: It was released a year ago ;) |
| 19:01 | <sney> | daemonkeeper: yes, I remember. |
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| 19:02 | <sney> | that is: lol debian is so old lol y r u usin such old softwarez!? |
| 19:02 | <daemonkeeper> | + where can I haz nu isoZ? |
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| 19:03 | <themill> | .o0( actually, debian's alsa packages *are* lagging upstream by quite a lot) |
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| 19:05 | <Black_Prince> | Well, not quite. alsa 1.0.25 was released recently. But sure, alsa 1.0.24, make 3.82, zlib 1.2.5 have been arround for quite a time, but still not part of Debian unstable. |
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| 19:06 | <daemonkeeper> | You forgot wine :p |
| 19:06 | <Black_Prince> | I don't care 'bout that one. |
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| 19:11 | * | Black_Prince should have asked for zlib 1.2.5 transition ... |
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| 19:12 | <scientes> | roundcube-sqlite req: php-mdb2-driver-sqlite req: php5-sqlite breaks: roundcube=sqlite |
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| 19:12 | <scientes> | IT IS CIRCULAR!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 19:21 | <XayOn> | scientes A circular rounded cube it seems+ |
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| 19:22 | <scientes> | XayOn, yes, found it: Bug#657092 |
| 19:24 | <scientes> | what would be a good groupware to move to considering the roundcube-sqlite is out of the picture? |
| 19:24 | <scientes> | it would be hot if FreeIPA was ported to debian |
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| 19:32 | <abrotman> | scientes: why is it out of the picture? |
| 19:33 | <scientes> | roundcube explicitely says it does not support sqlite3 |
| 19:33 | <scientes> | so unless people make it support sqlite3 sqlite support will be dropped |
| 19:33 | <abrotman> | scientes: which versoin of Debian is this ? |
| 19:33 | <scientes> | thats what the above bug adressses^^^^ |
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| 19:33 | <scientes> | wheezy |
| 19:33 | <abrotman> | so .. it's not a problem in debian yet? |
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| 19:33 | <abrotman> | dpkg: dbugs 657092 |
| 19:33 | <dpkg> | #657092:G[roundcube-sqlite] SQLite 2.x is not present any more in php5-sqlite (); Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:03:05 UTC [] |
| 19:34 | <abrotman> | that's a PHP problem .. not a roundcube problem .. right ? |
| 19:34 | <scientes> | roundcube is a php program |
| 19:34 | <abrotman> | it's a PHP bug .. |
| 19:34 | <scientes> | well they say they want to drop sqlite2 from wheezy |
| 19:34 | <themill> | well... you can't use roundcube-sqlite, but you can use any other roundcube-* package |
| 19:34 | <scientes> | themill, yes, but this is a sheevaplug |
| 19:35 | * | abrotman used roundcube with postgresql |
| 19:35 | <abrotman> | scientes: you run a mail server on a sheevaplug ? |
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| 19:35 | <scientes> | if I am going to use a read server, I want to use a proper groupware |
| 19:35 | * | abrotman smells whine .. |
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| 19:35 | <themill> | roundcube and proper... |
| 19:36 | <scientes> | well, "proper" isn't quite the right word |
| 19:36 | <themill> | but for a proper groupware solution, you'd be running stable anyway… |
| 19:36 | <scientes> | true |
| 19:36 | <Nick``> | hi, just installed lenny on a dell lattitude, i know it works as had it installed on this lappy before.. but for some reason it now hangs after the login screen and i just get the blue screen with a cursor.. nothing else.. |
| 19:36 | <Nick``> | any ideas? |
| 19:36 | <abrotman> | and not on a sheevaplug |
| 19:37 | <scientes> | guess i'll just go back to squirrelmail |
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| 19:37 | <abrotman> | hahah ... |
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| 19:37 | * | abrotman would rather use mutt in ajaxterm than squirrelmail |
| 19:38 | <scientes> | why is that funny? |
| 19:39 | <Hydroxide> | just a reflection of abrotman's mail client preferences, that's all |
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| 19:40 | <Hydroxide> | for me I an now using SOGo, which isn't in debian yet (that's being worked on) but is free software with a signed apt repository from the company behind it with source and binary debian packages. I like it, sometimes together with mutt depending. help with that is outside the scope of #debian though. |
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| 19:40 | <scientes> | Hydroxide, I was just looking at SoGO--is it a nice interface? |
| 19:41 | <Hydroxide> | yes, feels like a full desktop client |
| 19:41 | <Hydroxide> | (not in a bad way at all) |
| 19:41 | <Hydroxide> | and uses standards like IMAP, CardDAV, CalDAV, etc |
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| 19:42 | <jmpc> | Hi. I need a confirmation for which debian image install. With this cpu: "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU" i need the amd64 image, right? |
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| 19:42 | <Nick``> | does anyone have any idea about my problem plz? |
| 19:42 | <Hydroxide> | jmpc: amd64 is best for that, yes. i386 will also work. |
| 19:42 | <scientes> | hope it doesn't take too much to build |
| 19:43 | <abrotman> | scientes: Hydroxide said they have an apt repository |
| 19:43 | <Hydroxide> | scientes: I've never built it. I just use the apt repository provided by the vendor. |
| 19:43 | <scientes> | abrotman, for amd64 and i386 only |
| 19:43 | <jmpc> | Thanks Hydroxide |
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| 19:43 | <Xdept> | Nick``, Could you possibly give some logs or something? |
| 19:43 | <Nick``> | there's nothing in the logs that i can see |
| 19:43 | <Nick``> | no errors anyway |
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| 19:44 | <Hydroxide> | scientes: ah, good luck. I imagine they'd be open to accepting bug reports or patches if it fails to build on arm. they seem like a reasonable company from what I've read. at least you can build the source debian package from their repository to get a resulting set of debs |
| 19:44 | <Hydroxide> | or from the tarball, of course |
| 19:44 | <Nick``> | + with not being on the box to join here will be a bit of a pain in the butt |
| 19:44 | <Xdept> | Maybe you just need to re-install? |
| 19:45 | <Hydroxide> | they used to require a custom-patched version of GNUstep from their repository to work, but that seems to have been fixed to work with standard gnustep. that bodes well for their attitudes, and for its eventual presence in debian |
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| 19:45 | <Xdept> | Nick``, What GUI Are you using? |
| 19:45 | <Nick``> | Xdept, done that like 5 times :( |
| 19:45 | <Nick``> | gnome |
| 19:45 | <Xdept> | Have you tried Squeeze? |
| 19:46 | <Nick``> | yeah but iirc i also had issues with that, but on squeeze it was my nic im sure |
| 19:46 | <Nick``> | iv had lenny installed on this lappy before.. strange |
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| 19:46 | <Xdept> | Have you had a look through your xorg logs? |
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| 19:47 | <Hydroxide> | scientes: building things on arm hardware / sheevaplug in general is slow. lots of stuff is cross-compiled or compiled in an emulated environment. |
| 19:48 | <panko> | Nick``: are you using plymouth or something similar? |
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| 19:54 | <Nick```> | Xdept, sorry damn battery died lol |
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| 19:54 | <Nick```> | anything specific i should be looking for in Xorg.0.log? |
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| 19:55 | <Nick```> | long ping time here |
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| 19:55 | <Xdept> | Uh, Just pastebin it all |
| 19:56 | <Nick```> | im not on that lappy to chat with |
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| 19:57 | <Xdept> | ssh into it |
| 19:57 | <Nick```> | + cnt get into my gui to open a browser to paste it into ;/ |
| 19:57 | <Nick```> | k |
| 19:57 | <Xdept> | even better scp it |
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| 19:59 | <panko> | Nick```: configure your card and install pastebinit, you can use it with cat /path/some-file | pastebinit |
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| 20:04 | <Nick```> | Xdept, http://pastebin.com/g1EaJG06 |
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| 20:30 | <lduros> | hi, I want to make a deb package and I wanted to know if it's ok to place a symlink to an actual executable inside /usr/bin |
| 20:30 | <lduros> | that is, not the actual file would be in /usr/bin but a symlink |
| 20:31 | <Xdept> | Where would your file be? |
| 20:31 | <lduros> | the actual file along with the rest of the directory would be in /usr/lib/ |
| 20:31 | <lduros> | I guess |
| 20:31 | <lduros> | it's just because the executable looks for a file one directory up |
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| 20:32 | <Xdept> | Wouldn't one directory up from /usr/lib and /usr/bin just be the same anyway? |
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| 20:33 | <lduros> | Xdept: no, I mean, within /usr/bin/addon-sdk or something like that |
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| 20:33 | <lduros> | the actual file would be in /usr/bin/addon-sdk/bin/ |
| 20:33 | <lduros> | to be exact, since that's the accurate path |
| 20:33 | <lduros> | it looks for another directory within /usr/bin/addon-sdk |
| 20:33 | <lduros> | so if you place the executable out of that directory, then it wouldn't work |
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| 20:34 | <lduros> | the reason for this is that it needs to find some python files |
| 20:34 | <lduros> | and if these files are not in the pythonpath |
| 20:34 | <lduros> | then it doesn't work |
| 20:34 | <Xdept> | I see, I don't see a problem with it, Might want to get a second opinion on it though |
| 20:34 | <lduros> | Xdept: yeh, well another solution would be to break the whole directory apart, place the python files within the python path |
| 20:35 | <lduros> | then the executable in /usr/bin |
| 20:35 | <lduros> | etc |
| 20:35 | <lduros> | and then set up an environment variable |
| 20:35 | <lduros> | to tell where the rest of the files are located |
| 20:35 | <lduros> | but the symlink seems less of a hassle really :-) |
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| 20:36 | <Xdept> | Who is the package for? |
| 20:36 | <Xdept> | I mean, as a small scale package it should be fine |
| 20:36 | <scientes> | Hydroxide, where is the key? |
| 20:36 | <lduros> | well it's Mozilla's addon-sdk, so it's not small scale |
| 20:36 | <scientes> | oh nvm |
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| 20:37 | <lduros> | but breaking it all apart seems a bit counterintuitive to me |
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| 20:37 | <lduros> | esp. setting an environment variable in /etc/profile |
| 20:37 | <lduros> | or elsewhere, to tell where the actual files are located |
| 20:37 | <lduros> | but i'll ask about this to the developers |
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| 20:38 | <lduros> | I need to have a deb package because i'm making an add-on that's going to be a gnu project |
| 20:38 | <lduros> | and I need to make a makefile :-) |
| 20:38 | <Xdept> | Sweet as |
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| 20:38 | <lduros> | and so a deb package that would automate the installation of the sdk would help my life |
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| 20:38 | <Xdept> | I have only built a few small packages for myself. |
| 20:38 | <lduros> | hehe |
| 20:38 | <scientes> | check the existing packaging of xullrunner packages and mozilla/firefox add-ons |
| 20:38 | <lduros> | I have never built one :-) |
| 20:38 | <lduros> | but it doesn't seem overly complicated, only if you decide to make it so |
| 20:39 | <lduros> | obviously, creating a symlink isn't complicated |
| 20:39 | <lduros> | :-) |
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| 20:39 | <Xdept> | Not very hard at all |
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| 20:40 | <lduros> | while putting some python file in a python lib directory, then the rest of the files elsewhere, etc, it would require to change the actual logic of the files I think |
| 20:40 | <lduros> | on the long term I'm not sure it's a better idea |
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| 20:48 | <scientes> | Hydroxide, sogo uses GNUSTEP!!!! |
| 20:48 | <scientes> | woah |
| 20:48 | <Hydroxide> | scientes: yup. and is written in objective c. weird indeed by today's non-Mac OS X standards :) |
| 20:48 | <Hydroxide> | but, hey, no actual problem with that... |
| 20:49 | <Hydroxide> | might be nice for config to be somewhere other than /home/sogo/GNUstep/Defaults, but I imagine the official debian package will solve that when it exists |
| 20:49 | <scientes> | EEK, that is UGLY |
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| 20:50 | <Hydroxide> | debian packages hide lots of similar ugliness in other software debian ships :) |
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| 20:50 | <scientes> | well, i still find uglyness |
| 20:51 | <Hydroxide> | but, yeah, not disagreeing. do read the install guide. it's useful. |
| 20:51 | <scientes> | rubygems puts its cache in /var/lib instead of /var/cache for example |
| 20:51 | <Hydroxide> | it's a derivative of Open Groupware, occasionally known as OGo |
| 20:51 | <Hydroxide> | I think the S was for Scalable |
| 20:52 | <Hydroxide> | IIRC upstream rubygems puts stuff in way weirder places than Debian's does. |
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| 20:54 | <scientes> | and alot of people use RVM, which makes it even wierder |
| 20:55 | * | Hydroxide nosd |
| 20:55 | <Hydroxide> | *nods :) |
| 20:55 | <scientes> | "Note: will install in GNUSTEP_LOCAL_ROOT: /usr/Local" |
| 20:55 | <scientes> | WUT |
| 20:55 | <scientes> | from dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:55 | <scientes> | oh wait |
| 20:55 | <scientes> | thats right |
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| 20:56 | <scientes> | system: /usr/System |
| 20:56 | <scientes> | local: /usr/Local |
| 20:57 | <Hydroxide> | scientes: I imagine the package build stuff will put things in a more reasonable location than that. check the resulting debs |
| 20:57 | <scientes> | I will |
| 20:57 | <Hydroxide> | also, this is a bit more chatty than we should keep in #debian over this long of a period of time |
| 20:58 | <scientes> | I dont have my cross compile distcc up |
| 20:58 | <scientes> | so it takes longer---^^yes |
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| 21:00 | <frozenty> | Hey all :) Pretty new to debian, but I was wondering how it is possible to change the color of the user shell CL |
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| 21:01 | <Xdept> | You mean ~/.bashrc |
| 21:01 | <scientes> | frozenty, in gnome-terminal you go to edit->profile preferences |
| 21:01 | <frozenty> | oh nice xdept, is there a color option in there? like for basic CLI text |
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| 21:02 | <frozenty> | (will have to learn multitaking command style, brb) |
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| 21:08 | <winsen1> | Hi, I need to create webmail acount that's secure and faster, wich webmail could you suggest me? |
| 21:08 | <winsen1> | Thank you in advance |
| 21:08 | <sney> | that is not a debian support issue winsen1 |
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| 21:12 | <m0rtis0000> | question.... trying to play mp3 off my network drive (mounted), but it doesn't seem to open it... |
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| 21:14 | <winsen1> | sney: Hi, thanks for answer, however webmails don't have their special operating system , don't you think? |
| 21:14 | <m0rtis0000> | if i copy it to my desktop, it opens... |
| 21:17 | <sney> | winsen1: #debian is for debian support. your question is offtopic. |
| 21:17 | <sney> | m0rtis0000: what kind of network share? |
| 21:18 | <m0rtis0000> | seagate goflex home |
| 21:19 | <sney> | so it's smb? |
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| 21:20 | <m0rtis0000> | not sure. just installed Debian a couple days ago :) |
| 21:24 | <winsen1> | sney: I desagree with you, anyway I thank you for answer |
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| 21:24 | <sney> | m0rtis0000: smb is the same kind of network file sharing that windows uses, like \\server\share |
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| 21:25 | <m0rtis0000> | i'm guessing that's a problem? :P |
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| 21:30 | <scientes> | Hydroxide, its still compiling.... |
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| 21:36 | <sney> | m0rtis0000: sorry, went afk for a bit |
| 21:36 | <m0rtis0000> | that's ok. thought i did an inadvertent faux pas |
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| 21:37 | <sney> | anyway, try navigating to your mounted share in a terminal and see if you can open it that way, with mplayer or vlc etc |
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| 21:44 | <m0rtis0000> | can't figure out how to get to it. |
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| 21:46 | <sney> | usually debian puts mounted volumes under /media or /mnt |
| 21:47 | <m0rtis0000> | it's not under either that i can see |
| 21:48 | <m0rtis0000> | cd usb0 |
| 21:48 | <m0rtis0000> | um, nope. |
| 21:48 | <sney> | usb? I thought you said it was a network drive |
| 21:49 | <sney> | you can also type 'mount' to see your currently mounted volumes |
| 21:49 | <m0rtis0000> | it is - i was just checking any possible location... |
| 21:50 | <m0rtis0000> | hold on... |
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| 21:51 | <m0rtis0000> | not showing there either (mount) |
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| 21:58 | <sney> | m0rtis0000: well, I'm not sure how you're connected to it then. must be a gnome thing - you'll need to ask again in a bit when someone who knows how gnome stuff works is around |
| 21:59 | <m0rtis0000> | ok :) |
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| 22:23 | <ckosloff> | how can I connect to server freenode using Konversation? |
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| 22:41 | <scientes> | Hydroxide, sogo requires tmpreaper |
| 22:42 | <scientes> | and tmpreaper has some security implications (or so it says) |
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| 22:44 | <scientes> | why does it need tmpreaper? why can't it just do it itsself through some mechanism properly? |
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| 22:51 | <scientes> | Hydroxide, sogo calls "gettimeofday()" three times a second |
| 22:52 | <scientes> | in an infinite loop |
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| 22:55 | <scientes> | wait its faster than every second |
| 22:55 | <abrotman> | Are you in a hurrrrrry? |
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| 23:37 | <scientes> | what does rpcbind do? |
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