| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 07 00:00:18 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Feb 07 2012 |
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| 00:05 | <edong23___> | hello debian... im on a quest to find my soulmate.. i need somone that is a bigger linux networking nerd than i am to help me resolve an issue |
| 00:05 | <edong23___> | or at least, understand the issue |
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| 00:05 | <Bsims> | edong23___: whats the issue? |
| 00:06 | <edong23___> | ok |
| 00:06 | <edong23___> | bare with me |
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| 00:06 | <edong23___> | this is goign to sound wierd |
| 00:07 | <edong23___> | im setting up a dpi box.. and i have ingress and egress traffic mirrored on a switch port, and shooting out of a port going to my linux box |
| 00:07 | <edong23___> | the egress and ingress information has 2 vlans |
| 00:07 | <edong23___> | which i see in tcpdump |
| 00:07 | <edong23___> | but... |
| 00:07 | <Bsims> | ok |
| 00:07 | <edong23___> | heres here the problem is |
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| 00:07 | <edong23___> | for some reason, the numbers dont match up, and its not just a mystery that can be ignored |
| 00:07 | <edong23___> | the vlan interfaces, lets say they are receiving 100mbps each |
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| 00:08 | <edong23___> | i should see 200mbps on the core interface |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | 100+100 |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | but i dont |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | i see 300 |
| 00:08 | <Bsims> | minus overhead for the switch |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | maybe 325 |
| 00:08 | <Bsims> | ouch sorry not a clue |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | yeah... |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | and the data loss isnt just some wierdnet |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | is shows in my dpi inspection |
| 00:08 | <edong23___> | it shows the rrong data |
| 00:09 | <edong23___> | bu tthey are intel interfaces... |
| 00:09 | <edong23___> | and i get no discards |
| 00:09 | <Bsims> | you are prodding with deep magic, how is the data corrupted |
| 00:09 | <edong23___> | and i cannot for the life of me figure itout |
| 00:09 | <edong23___> | i dont understand your question/statement |
| 00:09 | <Bsims> | Is the data corrupted at all? |
| 00:10 | <edong23___> | not that i know of |
| 00:10 | <edong23___> | and i dont see why it would be |
| 00:10 | <edong23___> | i mean... you mean cause the switch might drop it if it is? |
| 00:10 | <edong23___> | cuase i get that |
| 00:10 | <edong23___> | i understand that... |
| 00:11 | <Bsims> | if not assume someone did deep magic to make it work better than you expected |
| 00:11 | <Bsims> | ran into that |
| 00:11 | <edong23___> | whats deep magic? |
| 00:11 | <edong23___> | now wait |
| 00:11 | <edong23___> | dont answer |
| 00:11 | <edong23___> | let me give you a key detail |
| 00:11 | <Bsims> | with at least one other process, seemed the more I threw at it it the better it worked |
| 00:12 | <Bsims> | it was optimized to work under a heavier load than I was giving it |
| 00:12 | <edong23___> | the switch port im mirroring has 2 vlans (as i said) but each vlan goes a different direction one to the access router, the other out to the world. so basically, i would see all the information 2 times |
| 00:12 | <edong23___> | and those numbers match up |
| 00:12 | <edong23___> | on the core interface |
| 00:12 | <edong23___> | so... heres the math |
| 00:12 | * | Bsims grins ya answered yer own question |
| 00:13 | <Bsims> | mine is this I got a great batch script for backup... considering writing a gui for it just for the learning |
| 00:13 | <Bsims> | should I bother? |
| 00:13 | <edong23___> | if my access router has 200mbps down and 50 up... on the interface of the server connected to the switch port reciving mirrord data i see exactly 500mbps |
| 00:13 | <edong23___> | its perfect match |
| 00:14 | <edong23___> | math but on the vlan interfaces, it doesnt add up |
| 00:14 | <edong23___> | something is getting lost between the physical interface and the vlan interfaces |
| 00:14 | <edong23___> | and i am so lost on what you are talking about. |
| 00:14 | <edong23___> | lol |
| 00:14 | <edong23___> | what? |
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| 00:15 | <edong23___> | and its not the overhead of vlans... |
| 00:15 | <edong23___> | that woudl be only about 2mbps per gigabit/sec of traffic |
| 00:15 | <edong23___> | this si outrageous |
| 00:15 | <edong23___> | like 100-150mbps off |
| 00:15 | <Bsims> | edong23___: I got a rsync script, I am considering making a gui for it just to teach myself how to program a gui |
| 00:15 | <Bsims> | debating if its worth it |
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| 00:54 | <Infiltrator> | Should I be using "/etc/init.d/*" to stop/start daemons or "service * start"? |
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| 00:57 | <david_> | I agree |
| 00:59 | <sney> | Infiltrator: it doesn't matter in 99.99...% of cases |
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| 01:44 | <david_> | wc |
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| 02:13 | <Cire3> | I know networking, but if I only knew deb well enough. What would cause me to not be able to set a IP address static in Deb ? I have tried /etc/network/interfaces, as well as the GUI. When I'm on the LAN I can go dhcp no problem, but static wont stick. I had it connected a few times but it doesnt last. ifconfig shows it's not bound. Any thoughts ? |
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| 02:15 | <Cire3> | I'm trying to bind a WAN static on a ESXi box. it's as if something is resetting it ? I also get Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may |
| 02:15 | <Cire3> | not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). |
| 02:15 | <Cire3> | Reconfiguring network interfaces...done |
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| 02:36 | <Infiltrator> | Cire3: You should do /etc/init.d/networking stop and then start. |
| 02:37 | <Infiltrator> | Cire3: Also, I've found that I need to comment out the '#iface eth0 inet dhcp' line to get static to work. |
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| 02:38 | <Infiltrator> | Does '/etc/environment' need any specific packages? I don't have one, and no manpage for it either. |
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| 02:38 | <Infiltrator> | I have LVM set up on my laptop. Recently (past few weeks or so), about two out of three boots will fail with a message saying 'cannot find volume group blah'. A reboot (or two) solves this, though. I've seen no other issues with my disks, but could this indicate a disk failure? Or is it a kernel/software thing? |
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| 02:49 | <Infiltrator> | Also, why does debhelper keep changing the limit? Is it to avoid 100+ spammers joining the channel? |
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| 02:51 | <Infiltrator> | 'apt-file find /etc/environment' returns null. |
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| 03:16 | <peronet> | Anyone speaking swedish ? Have a few questions about installing KDE and VNC over ssh .. Can´t get it to work .. |
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| 03:17 | <john> | nope sorry, any #debian-swedish ? |
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| 03:18 | <john> | are you dealing to export your desktop through ssl encryption ? |
| 03:19 | <peronet> | hmm dont know :) |
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| 03:23 | <peronet> | i just want, to manage the server via graphical interface |
| 03:25 | <john> | nice idea, but what do you exactly mean by manage the server ? |
| 03:26 | <simonlnu> | urg? |
| 03:26 | <peronet> | i want to see what im doing (new to the linux thing) want to make it a NAS and a simple webserver .. |
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| 03:27 | <peronet> | i have installed kde and vnc, but cant start x |
| 03:27 | <peronet> | googled it and followed some guides.. |
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| 03:31 | <john> | ..and you think that you really need some nice desktop to configure your services ? :-) |
| 03:31 | <peronet> | hehe i think it would be more simple ? :) |
| 03:32 | <peronet> | i might be wrong hehe |
| 03:32 | <john> | try to use apt-get 'kde' or gnome, it will normally set a complete environment (xorg,libc6**) |
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| 03:33 | <peronet> | have done, apt-get install kde-full |
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| 03:33 | <peronet> | but it does not start, cant start it.. |
| 03:33 | <Sicelo> | heh .. that will prolly install such stuff as games too.. i found (at least with gnome), it is better to install gnome-core instead of gnome |
| 03:34 | <peronet> | "cannot locate the x server" |
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| 03:34 | <john> | gnome |
| 03:35 | <john> | i'm rather gnome than kde |
| 03:35 | <john> | try apt-get instal gnome |
| 03:35 | <peronet> | core ? |
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| 03:37 | <john> | I love my bash |
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| 03:40 | <Sicelo> | :) |
| 03:41 | <urz> | anyone use firefox? |
| 03:41 | <urz> | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723835 |
| 03:41 | <john> | firefox ? wht's that ? |
| 03:41 | <urz> | a web browser |
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| 03:41 | <urz> | used to be real popular |
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| 03:42 | <urz> | then they started breaking extension compatibility and releasing bad builds |
| 03:42 | <urz> | there's a debian package for it called iceweasel |
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| 03:52 | <peronet> | john, installed gnome.. ´ |
| 03:53 | <peronet> | Fatal server error: |
| 03:53 | <peronet> | Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting |
| 03:53 | <peronet> | when startx |
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| 03:55 | <simonlnu> | a) don't paste here, you'll get kicked by the bot b) pastebin the whole output, that's effectively useless to help debug |
| 03:55 | <peronet> | ahh ok :) |
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| 03:57 | <peronet> | http://pastebin.com/vcXxhKtT |
| 03:58 | <prabhu> | hello any wordpress geeks here ? |
| 03:58 | <simonlnu> | ty |
| 03:58 | <peronet> | :) |
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| 03:58 | <simonlnu> | (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory |
| 03:58 | <simonlnu> | you don't have a framebuffer device. are you trying to start xorg from remote or something? |
| 03:59 | <peronet> | yes, im doing this from putty.. |
| 03:59 | <john> | @peronet don't you love bash ? :) |
| 03:59 | <peronet> | server is far way :P |
| 03:59 | <simonlnu> | though it shouldn't segfault like that not finding /dev/fb0. that's a bug |
| 03:59 | <simonlnu> | peronet: why? you don't need to start x there |
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| 04:00 | <peronet> | simonlnu, i want to use VNC to edit files and so :) and try to setup my NAS |
| 04:01 | <simonlnu> | you run xorg locally, and remote xorg clients connect to it via ssh. much simpler |
| 04:01 | <simonlnu> | !ssh x |
| 04:01 | <peronet> | but how ? :) |
| 04:01 | <simonlnu> | !sshx |
| 04:01 | <dpkg> | You can run X11 apps securely over an ssh connection without <xhost> nor X TCP support. Enable X11Forwarding _on the remote server_ (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. See also <root x> and <cygwin sshx>. |
| 04:01 | <simonlnu> | and please make sure you don't login as root. That's Bad. |
| 04:01 | <simonlnu> | via ssh i mean |
| 04:01 | <peronet> | just did SU when installed gnome |
| 04:02 | <simonlnu> | SU doesn't exist. su does. this is unix, not windows ;) |
| 04:02 | <peronet> | hehe |
| 04:02 | <peronet> | :P |
| 04:03 | <peronet> | sorry ;) |
| 04:03 | <simonlnu> | it's ok. it's a process |
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| 04:03 | <simonlnu> | we're all newbies some time, and sometimes too ;) |
| 04:04 | <peronet> | X11 forwarding was enabled in sshd_config |
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| 04:06 | <simonlnu> | ok, so you'll need to pass that along with your ssh login, with ssh it's -X (configurable, see man ssh_config). as for putty, it can too. as for installing x locally, be easier with a debian box *hint* ;). |
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| 04:06 | <simonlnu> | otherwise it's cygwin or such for x11 |
| 04:08 | <peronet> | hehe my wife will not let me put linux on our laptops :) |
| 04:08 | <peronet> | cygwin beeing installed now :) |
| 04:10 | <simonlnu> | ok. too bad. |
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| 04:13 | <knoppix_> | hj |
| 04:14 | <knoppix_> | öä |
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| 04:15 | <Cire3> | <infiltrator> Thansk for your time, dhcp is #. I have to have something trying to push it back dhcp, just not seeing it. |
| 04:16 | <Cire3> | Also did the basics /etc/inti.d/networking restart stop and start |
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| 04:18 | <peronet> | john and simonlnu thanks for your help! I have to go and take care of my sick kids, i´ll be back.. :) thanks! |
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| 04:21 | <john> | @peronet u're welcome. Hey any DD here ? |
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| 04:49 | <|Ferderik> | How is one supposed to install the b43 firmware now on Debian wheezy? firmware-b43-installer does not seem to do anything here. |
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| 04:51 | <|Ferderik> | hm, firmware-b43-installer postinst script checks which b43 card you have, so it does not work on a system without b43 card... :-( would have been handy to download all firmware on one system in order to move it to another one. |
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| 05:13 | <prabhu> | any wordpress experts ? |
| 05:16 | <devil> | prabhu: just ask your question |
| 05:16 | <lp> | prabhu: http://codex.wordpress.org/IRC |
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| 05:35 | <XayOn> | foolano: Dude, you just switched ips like five times in minutes! =D |
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| 05:52 | <ceki03_> | hi is it secure to add uer to group adm |
| 05:52 | <ceki03_> | I want the user to be able to see logs |
| 05:52 | <ceki03_> | or what else is allowed when user is in grp adm |
| 05:52 | <petemc> | find / -group adm |
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| 05:55 | <ceki03_> | petemc: right... but overall? |
| 05:55 | <petemc> | its generally fine, thats why the group is there |
| 05:56 | <petemc> | (to read logs) |
| 05:56 | <ceki03_> | oki |
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| 06:48 | <indigo> | apt-get upgrade is upgrading a handful of Xen related packages, and then later that night, cron-apt, which I've configured to install security updates only, upgrades them again - and I bounce between those two states. Why would that be? |
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| 06:49 | <themill> | indigo: the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy packagename" might be instructive. Also, how have you configured cron-apt to do that? |
| 06:50 | <indigo> | themill: I changed the "upgrade" action in /etc/cron-apt/action.d to be "upgrade -u -y -o quiet=1 -o Dir::Etc::SourceList=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/squeeze_security.list -o Dir::Etc::SourceParts=/dev/null" |
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| 06:53 | <indigo> | so right now, i'm in the after cron-apt, apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade the package state, and apt-cache policy xenstore-utils gives me this: http://pastebin.com/Ry499MQx |
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| 06:53 | <indigo> | if i'm reading that correctly, it says 4.0.1-4 is installed, but it wants me to upgrade to 4.0.1-4. That's not making sense to e. |
| 06:53 | <themill> | indigo: hmm... those two package must have different md5sums for apt to list them separately like that |
| 06:54 | <themill> | can you "apt-cache show xenstore-utils" for me? |
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| 06:55 | <indigo> | http://pastebin.com/pM2BFitB |
| 06:55 | <themill> | yeah, different hashes -- I see the same on i386 too |
| 06:56 | <indigo> | at least i'm not crazy |
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| 06:56 | <themill> | :) |
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| 06:57 | <indigo> | apt-cache with flags for security only: http://pastebin.com/B1CPfiYr |
| 06:57 | <indigo> | so, what can I do about this? |
| 06:58 | <indigo> | or, do you think it's something that will get fixed soon? |
| 06:58 | <themill> | well... it "shouldn't happen" is the basic answer to this :( |
| 06:58 | <indigo> | mostly it's annoying because nagios is nagging me to install updates |
| 06:58 | <indigo> | should i file a bug report somewhere? |
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| 07:07 | <themill> | indigo: You may be able to put some pinning in place to force this to behave, but I'm not sure how much luck you'll have doing that. (I've prodded the release team about this to find out why/how this happened) |
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| 07:11 | <indigo> | themill: ok thanks. I'll just tell nagios to ignore this problem for a while. |
| 07:12 | <themill> | !dbugs 648448 |
| 07:12 | <dpkg> | #648448:I[ftp.debian.org] ftp.debian.org: Wrong checksum package "xen-docs-4.0" in archive squeeze-proposed-updates. (); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:51:02 UTC [] |
| 07:14 | <themill> | indigo: ^^ fwiw. known but not fixed it seems. Not really sure why though. |
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| 07:15 | <babilen> | Seems to be relatively easy to fix -- I guess that people just forgot about it :-/ |
| 07:16 | <michele> | XDCC/Gestione Motori di Ricerca |
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| 07:24 | <themill> | indigo, babilen: actually fixing it would be quite difficult and would also be confusing for everyone else who currently has one version or the other installed. |
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| 07:26 | <babilen> | What would be wrong with uploading a new version to security? |
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| 07:27 | <babilen> | (apart from the fact that it might not qualify as a security update) |
| 07:27 | <themill> | babilen: apt would (probably) then want to install that new version but there's no changelog or DSA to explain why there's a new version there |
| 07:27 | * | themill wonders how many other examples of this there are in the archive(s) |
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| 07:28 | <babilen> | I have never heard about this and (even after the reading the bug report) don't quite understand how it happened and Thijs seems to be unable to reproduce it as well :-/ |
| 07:29 | <themill> | it's clearly a different rebuild on amd64 |
| 07:29 | <themill> | 2011-11-06 instead of 2011-06-09 |
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| 07:31 | <United7> | I am trying to install vmware-install.pl using terminal |
| 07:31 | <United7> | can you all please advice what is the command to run vmware-install.pl ? |
| 07:31 | <United7> | I am already in the directory |
| 07:32 | <United7> | just don't know how to execute the file from terminal |
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| 07:34 | <themill> | babilen: it's only that xen source package that is affected by this across all of squeeze. http://paste.debian.net/155419/ |
| 07:34 | * | themill hugs udd |
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| 08:42 | <Lobo> | hola |
| 08:43 | <Xavi> | hola |
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| 08:45 | <Lobo> | como estas Xavi |
| 08:45 | <Xavi> | bien |
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| 08:45 | <Lobo> | de donde eres |
| 08:46 | <gdb> | !es |
| 08:46 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 08:46 | <Xavi> | Im from Debian world |
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| 09:12 | <fabio_> | how to get restricted drivers on ubuntu? |
| 09:12 | <fabio_> | like ubuntu do |
| 09:12 | <fabio_> | *debian |
| 09:13 | <fabio_> | how to get restricted drivers on debian? |
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| 09:14 | <devil> | fabio_: like what? |
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| 09:14 | <fabio_> | devil, like graphics, wireless |
| 09:14 | <devil> | fabio_: you need to expand your sources.list |
| 09:15 | <devil> | add contrib non-free |
| 09:15 | <fabio_> | devil, can you help me with that? |
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| 09:15 | <fabio_> | devil, can you tell me where is sources.list |
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| 09:15 | <devil> | open sources list as root with your favourite editor. |
| 09:16 | <fabio_> | devil, on terminal? |
| 09:16 | <devil> | /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list |
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| 09:16 | <devil> | err |
| 09:16 | <devil> | hm, no, its alright |
| 09:17 | <fabio_> | devil, its empty |
| 09:17 | <devil> | fabio_: what debian version are you using? |
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| 09:18 | <fabio_> | devil 6.0.4 |
| 09:18 | <devil> | should not be empty |
| 09:18 | <fabio_> | bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list: No such file or directory |
| 09:20 | <devil> | well, thats where it is for me |
| 09:20 | <devil> | anything in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 09:20 | <fabio_> | E: Type 'contrib' is not known on line 16 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:21 | <devil> | fabio_: you add it to the first line |
| 09:21 | <devil> | but you should really have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list |
| 09:22 | <devil> | the line should look something like : deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 09:22 | <devil> | dont copy it, you dont want sid |
| 09:22 | <fabio_> | devil i dont have the file debian.list |
| 09:22 | <devil> | fabio_: then you dont have debian? |
| 09:23 | <fabio_> | yes i have |
| 09:23 | <devil> | or an updaqted lenny maybe? |
| 09:23 | <fabio_> | debian 6.0.4 64 bit |
| 09:23 | <devil> | in the end it does not really matter if its sources.list.d or sources.list |
| 09:23 | <devil> | just curious |
| 09:23 | <fabio_> | devil, ive donloaded yesterday from debian website |
| 09:23 | <fabio_> | the netinstal |
| 09:24 | <fabio_> | root@debian:/etc/apt# ls |
| 09:24 | <fabio_> | apt.conf.d secring.gpg sources.list.d trusted.gpg~ |
| 09:24 | <fabio_> | listchanges.conf sources.list trustdb.gpg trusted.gpg.d |
| 09:24 | <fabio_> | preferences.d sources.list~ trusted.gpg |
| 09:24 | -!- | fabio_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
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| 09:24 | <fabio_> | sorry |
| 09:24 | <fabio_> | how to paste |
| 09:25 | <petemc> | use pastebin.com or pastie.org |
| 09:25 | <fabio_> | devil, http://pastebin.com/dWJKHFBB |
| 09:25 | <devil> | fabio_: and sources.list.d is empty? |
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| 09:26 | <fabio_> | devil, yep |
| 09:26 | <devil> | strange. but does not matter. use whats in sources.list |
| 09:27 | <devil> | i was under the impression that debian 6 makes use of sources.list.d |
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| 09:30 | <themill> | devil: it has an empty sources.list.d if that's what you mean |
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| 09:30 | <fabio_> | devil ok |
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| 09:30 | <fabio_> | devil, on link you sent me |
| 09:30 | <fabio_> | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/dists/contrib/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| 09:31 | <devil> | fabio_: i said: do not copy it |
| 09:31 | <fabio_> | xD |
| 09:31 | <devil> | themill: oh, i thought it made use of it |
| 09:32 | <themill> | devil: I have no idea what you're meaning by "made use of it". The directory is there and any *.list file you stick in it will be used. It is unpopulated by default. |
| 09:32 | <fabio_> | devil so what link i should use? |
| 09:32 | <devil> | themill: i thought there was a debian.list in there |
| 09:32 | <devil> | by default |
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| 09:33 | <themill> | devil: maybe in some other derivative distribution you have a penchant for... |
| 09:33 | <devil> | fabio_: pastebin your sources.list |
| 09:33 | <devil> | themill: yes, we use it for like 18 months at least |
| 09:34 | <fabio_> | devil, http://pastebin.com/3Hytug3C |
| 09:35 | <devil> | fabio_: remove contrib non-free from line 15 and add them to lines 7 and 8, save the file and do: apt-get update |
| 09:35 | <themill> | that sources.list is not consistent with the error message |
| 09:36 | <devil> | themill: he had added the line i pasted as example |
| 09:36 | <devil> | i guess he removed it before pasting now |
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| 09:38 | <fabio_> | done |
| 09:38 | <fabio_> | and now what |
| 09:38 | <fabio_> | devil |
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| 09:39 | <devil> | now you can install whatever drivers you need |
| 09:39 | <fabio_> | devil, from where |
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| 09:40 | <devil> | through apt |
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| 09:40 | <fabio_> | devil, ok for example now i need wireless |
| 09:40 | <devil> | or your favourite package maqnager |
| 09:40 | <devil> | fabio_: then you first find out what wireless chip you have |
| 09:40 | <fabio_> | ok |
| 09:40 | <fabio_> | how to do that |
| 09:41 | <devil> | fabio_: lspci -nn | grep network |
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| 09:41 | <devil> | given its a builtin chip |
| 09:42 | <fabio_> | devil, dont give any output |
| 09:42 | <devil> | sry, i am eating... |
| 09:42 | <fabio_> | oh enjoy :) |
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| 09:43 | <blast007> | fabio_: just do 'lspci -nn' and look through the output. the grep probably isn't right. |
| 09:43 | <devil> | probably |
| 09:44 | <fabio_> | 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4357] (rev 01) |
| 09:44 | <fabio_> | is this right? |
| 09:44 | <blast007> | yup |
| 09:44 | <devil> | oh, grep -i network |
| 09:44 | <fabio_> | now what :P |
| 09:44 | <jordanm> | !brcm80211 |
| 09:44 | <dpkg> | brcm80211 (brcmsmac as of Linux 2.6.39) is an open source <mac80211> driver, supporting 802.11n PCIe devices based on Broadcom <BCM4313>, <BCM43224> and <BCM43225> chips. Included as a staging driver in Debian 2.6.32 kernel images for x86. Firmware is required (bcm43xx-0.fw, bcm43xx_hdr-0.fw), ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-brcm80211 package to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 09:46 | <fabio_> | ok |
| 09:46 | <fabio_> | its installed |
| 09:46 | <fabio_> | hurray |
| 09:46 | <fabio_> | but still not see wireless networks |
| 09:46 | <fabio_> | lol |
| 09:47 | <blast007> | did you read the wiki page? |
| 09:47 | <fabio_> | maybe its better restart right? |
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| 10:00 | <houms> | is there a way to run a fsck remotely? |
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| 10:01 | <jordanm> | houms: sure |
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| 10:03 | <houms> | not sure how to go about it if the drive must be umounted |
| 10:03 | <jordanm> | houms: if its a filesystem that can be unmounted while the system is running, unmount it and fsck. otherwise, you will need a livecd with ssh running by default with a password. You will either need someone at the location to put in the livecd, or have a IPMI device that allows the virtual mounting of a ISO over the network |
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| 10:04 | <jordanm> | houms: if you have neither, then no, and you should rethink your remote setups |
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| 10:04 | <houms> | so if i understand you correctly the root system cannot be fsck'ed remotely without one of those conditions ? |
| 10:04 | <houms> | someone else suggested remounting root as read only running check and then remounting as write. though i was skeptical |
| 10:05 | <jordanm> | houms: you can touch the /forcefsck file, reboot and hope for the best |
| 10:05 | <houms> | lol yeah rethinking the setup is def. on my list, unfortunately the powers that be dont |
| 10:05 | <jordanm> | houms: I wouldn't recommend |
| 10:05 | <houms> | yeah i did not like that method to much either |
| 10:06 | <houms> | leaves me with no eyes so to speak |
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| 10:06 | <jordanm> | houms: the powers that be may rethink as they are paying you to drive there |
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| 10:08 | <jordanm> | houms: a dell DRAC card for example is only around $300 |
| 10:08 | <jordanm> | houms: the cards are specific to the vendor's hardware though |
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| 10:10 | <houms> | lol jordan trust me you are beating a dead horse |
| 10:10 | <houms> | i appreciate your response but i ahve been up and down that battle |
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| 10:10 | <houms> | i was out at the DC late last night dealing with a similar issue regarding same crap as far as no remote access |
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| 10:11 | <jordanm> | houms: I hope you live in a place that mandates overtime :) |
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| 10:11 | <jordanm> | overtime pay I mean |
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| 10:12 | <houms> | no. va |
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| 10:22 | <pietro> | ciao a tutti |
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| 10:22 | <pietro> | !list |
| 10:22 | <dpkg> | pietro: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 11:05 | <franzel> | Can someone help me with "Bad archive Mirror" during debian install when configuring apt |
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| 11:10 | <kdemar> | Alguien habla español? |
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| 11:13 | <chealer> | !tell kdemar about es |
| 11:13 | <kdemar> | tanks! |
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| 11:15 | <paulio> | Hello, Do you know anyone where is problem with migration icedove 8 to Debian testing? I'm looking at http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/icedove.html but I do not understand the reason. |
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| 11:21 | <gnugr> | franzel: you can use 'netselect-apt' to select fastest mirror |
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| 11:22 | <jordanm> | paulio: it hasn't been 10 days since it was uploaded to unstable |
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| 11:23 | <jordanm> | oh, wait, that was over a month ago |
| 11:23 | <franzel> | gnugr: how I choose that option? |
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| 11:24 | <gnugr> | franzel: 'apt-get install netselect-apt' |
| 11:24 | <franzel> | gnugr I am installing via cd/dvd |
| 11:24 | <gnugr> | franzel: then try with 'netselect-apt -n squeeze' |
| 11:25 | <gnugr> | you mean fresh install? |
| 11:25 | <franzel> | yes...fresh install |
| 11:25 | <gnugr> | is it a live-cd? |
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| 11:26 | <franzel> | no...just install cd |
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| 11:28 | <gnugr> | franzel:is installation finished? |
| 11:28 | <franzel> | no...stuck looking for mirror in the apt |
| 11:28 | <paulio> | jordanm: [2012-01-04] Accepted 8.0-2 in unstable (low) (Christoph Goehre) |
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| 11:28 | <franzel> | "Bad Archive Mirror" |
| 11:28 | <jordanm> | !why is icedove not in testing |
| 11:28 | <dpkg> | icedove is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=icedove |
| 11:29 | <gnugr> | franzel: go a bit back and select another mirror |
| 11:29 | <gnugr> | ftp or http |
| 11:30 | <franzel> | looks like it worked with this: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:30 | <paulio> | dpkg: Yes, but I do not understand it. There I watched, but I do not see any problem. |
| 11:30 | <dpkg> | paulio: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 11:31 | <franzel> | First I went to a spare shell by pressing Control+Alt+F2. Press enter to get a shell (command line). Run cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:31 | <franzel> | thanks for the help gnugr |
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| 11:33 | <panko> | http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=icedove paulio |
| 11:33 | <panko> | ups |
| 11:33 | <panko> | sorry |
| 11:33 | <panko> | scroll fail... |
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| 11:34 | <paulio> | Ok, I have go out. Thanks |
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| 11:51 | <afuentes> | I usually just uncomment force_color_prompt=yes in my .bashrc to get colors at my promt. default colors are good enough for me. Problem is that my term is dark and i can barely see directories or stuff colored in dark blue... |
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| 11:52 | <afuentes> | coloring stuff is crazy... is there a way to set a default to dark terminal so it pick another default colors? |
| 11:52 | <afuentes> | like i do in vim with bg=dark |
| 11:52 | <afuentes> | ? |
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| 11:54 | <afuentes> | i dont seem to have the DIR_COLORS file that i keep reading about in google either |
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| 12:14 | <kop> | afuentes: That stuff is turned on in ~/.bashrc I always turn it off by commenting out the aliasing. |
| 12:16 | <kop> | afuentes: You may also want (global-font-lock-mode 0) in ~/.emacs to turn off colors in emacs. (And also, perhaps(if (not (assoc 'tty-color-mode default-frame-alist)) (push (cons 'tty-color-mode 'never) default-frame-alist)) You can then turn colors back on with emacs --color=auto if you care to. |
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| 12:25 | <Roberek> | Hello, can someone help me with my install? |
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| 12:25 | <retrospectacus> | Roberek: probably, go ahead and describe your issue |
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| 12:26 | <Roberek> | Basically I want to know if its possible to do a full install of Debian onto a USB Flash Drive |
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| 12:27 | <retrospectacus> | yes it is |
| 12:27 | <jhutchins_wk> | Roberek: The live CD images work fairly well as live USB drives. |
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| 12:27 | <Roberek> | I just dont want to lose any functionality |
| 12:27 | <retrospectacus> | he said *onto* a usb drive |
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| 12:28 | <retrospectacus> | Roberek: just partition the usb drive for / and do the install. I would not create a swap partition though |
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| 12:29 | <Roberek> | No idea what a swap partion is |
| 12:29 | <Roberek> | :P |
| 12:29 | <jhutchins_wk> | Using a live image is usually a better idea because they are designed not to write back to the boot device. |
| 12:29 | <Roberek> | What format is best for the install? |
| 12:30 | <retrospectacus> | !tell Roberek about swap |
| 12:30 | <Roberek> | I want to store stuff on there |
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| 12:31 | <retrospectacus> | Roberek: what filesystem? Not too important, ext3 or ext4 I suppose |
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| 12:31 | <Roberek> | Alright, I'm a bit confused now, I want my install to act like its installed to a regular hard drive |
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| 12:32 | <retrospectacus> | I have a USB drive with Debian on it, works great, though it can seem quite slow |
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| 12:33 | <Roberek> | I have a USB 3.0 drive so that wont be an issue for me |
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| 12:36 | <retrospectacus> | well I just installed straight debian with the installer, chose the usb as the target, no problems. |
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| 12:36 | <Roberek> | Which installer? |
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| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | squeeze amd64 netinst |
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| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | !netinst |
| 12:37 | <dpkg> | well, netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
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| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | but jhutchins_wk recommends to use the Debian-Live cd |
| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | !live |
| 12:37 | <dpkg> | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 12:37 | <Roberek> | will that work through windows? |
| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | windows? No, nothing works there |
| 12:38 | <Roberek> | :/ |
| 12:38 | <Roberek> | Funny |
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| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | what are you asking? I've not used windows in many years |
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| 12:39 | <Roberek> | I'm in windows 7 right now, I want the most complete install without having to re-format any of my drives besides the USB stick I want Debian on |
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| 12:40 | <retrospectacus> | oh. Yeah sure but you won't be using windows whatsoever, except to download the installer and burn it |
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| 12:41 | <Roberek> | I don't have any CD/DVDs to burn to |
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| 12:41 | <retrospectacus> | then go with the !live thing, and "burn" the ISO onto the USB stick (I have no idea if this is possible in windows) |
| 12:42 | <Roberek> | :/ |
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| 12:43 | <Roberek> | But doesn't a live install not act like a normal OS? |
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| 12:44 | <retrospectacus> | I haven't tried it, read the site there, jhutchins_wk said it will not write to the disk so much which is good |
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| 12:45 | <Roberek> | I want it to act normally though |
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| 12:46 | <Roberek> | So is there no way without wiping one of my other drives of installing a fully-operating install? |
| 12:47 | <retrospectacus> | what? I just told you two ways to not do that |
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| 12:48 | <retrospectacus> | why do you think the live usb is not "fully-operating"? |
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| 12:48 | <Roberek> | Does it act as a full install would? |
| 12:49 | <retrospectacus> | like I said, I haven't tried it. I'd assume so, you could always read up on it |
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| 12:49 | <jhutchins_wk> | Roberek: Usually it is somewhat limited, but a very usable desktop environment. |
| 12:50 | <Roberek> | Hmm, the "limited" part is what I'm concerned about |
| 12:50 | <jhutchins_wk> | Roberek: Debian has around 30,000 software packages available, so a Live version is not going to have every possible package, but then niether is a custom install. |
| 12:50 | <jhutchins_wk> | Roberek: Why don't you just try it and see if you need to expand it? |
| 12:50 | <retrospectacus> | I installed debian on USB using debootstrap - no CDROM needed for that but it's quite a bit more complicated |
| 12:51 | <gdb> | You can't install every package in Debian at the same time, anyway. |
| 12:51 | <retrospectacus> | it's fully functional but feels slow |
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| 12:51 | <Roberek> | So the only different between a live and a large installation image is the packages? |
| 12:51 | <gdb> | Yes |
| 12:52 | <jhutchins_wk> | There are some tuning differences. A hard drive installation will write logs to the disk, while a live version will store them in RAM. |
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| 12:52 | <jhutchins_wk> | Roberek: You're wasting more time worrying about limitations than you would spend actually downloading and trying it. |
| 12:52 | <jhutchins_wk> | !live |
| 12:52 | <dpkg> | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 12:52 | <Sicelo> | :) |
| 12:52 | <Sicelo> | +1 jhutchins_wk |
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| 12:53 | <jhutchins_wk> | That factoid is a bit dated, these days the main CD/DVD images also work as Live CDs. |
| 12:53 | <Sicelo> | huh? for sure Squeeze doesn't |
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| 12:54 | <Roberek> | Alright well I'm torrenting Live right now |
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| 12:55 | <jhutchins_wk> | Sicelo: Squeeze doesn't what? |
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| 12:57 | <gdb> | jhutchins_wk: He's saying the the DVD/CD (non-Live) install of Squeeze doesn't act as a live disc. |
| 12:57 | <jhutchins_wk> | They hybrid images do. |
| 12:57 | <jhutchins_wk> | netinst not so much. |
| 12:58 | <jhutchins_wk> | (Where'd that y come from?) |
| 12:58 | <Sicelo> | i didn't use netinst dvd.. |
| 12:58 | <Roberek> | Is Hmmm |
| 12:58 | <Sicelo> | either way, probably OT |
| 12:59 | <dba> | installer media do not contain a live image; however, as of squeeze, live images do have installer in addition on it. |
| 12:59 | <jhutchins_wk> | dba: Thanks for clarifying. |
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| 13:00 | <Roberek> | So I should be able to install live to a USB Stick from within windows? Or will I need a DVD/CD? |
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| 13:02 | <Roberek> | None of these instuctions help with windows... |
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| 13:06 | <Roberek> | Would it be possible to create two partions on the USB, boot from one, and install it onto the other? |
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| 13:09 | <Roberek> | nevermind, the drive won't let me to it |
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| 13:10 | <Roberek> | win32-loader.ini is incomplete? |
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| 13:14 | <retrospectacus> | Roberek: yeah windows can't comprehend USB drives with partitions on them for some reason. |
| 13:15 | <Roberek> | Well, I'm probably better off using a distro that can install a live partition through windows |
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| 13:15 | <Roberek> | Thanks for the help anyway |
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| 13:18 | <pietro> | ciao a tutti |
| 13:19 | <pietro> | !list |
| 13:19 | <dpkg> | pietro: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 13:33 | <jaime> | saludos |
| 13:33 | <jaime> | spanish? |
| 13:33 | <daemonkeeper> | !es |
| 13:33 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 13:34 | <project2510a> | !klingon |
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| 13:34 | <jaime> | /join #debian-es |
| 13:34 | <jaime> | hola |
| 13:35 | <retrospectacus> | you almost had it there |
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| 13:36 | <project2510a> | i saw the best programmers of my generation absorbed by the finance industry |
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| 13:37 | <project2510a> | hysterically exchanging their freedom for money |
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| 13:37 | * | retrospectacus glances towards #debian-offtopic |
| 13:37 | <project2510a> | dragging their feet throughout their years, pondering complex and useless models for money flow |
| 13:38 | <project2510a> | bah |
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| 14:17 | <franzel> | can someone help with Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/a/apache2/apache2-doc_2.2.16-6+squeeze6_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch |
| 14:17 | <franzel> | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
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| 14:19 | <retrospectacus> | franzel: did you run apt-get update and try again? |
| 14:19 | <franzel> | retrospectacus: I did and got this msg |
| 14:19 | <franzel> | Reading package lists... Done |
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| 14:21 | <retrospectacus> | but you still get "hash sum mismatch" when you try to install apache2-doc ? |
| 14:21 | <chealer> | !tell franzel about bat |
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| 14:22 | <franzel> | did another apt-get apache2....looks like it took care of it...thanks retrospectacus |
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| 14:22 | <retrospectacus> | just like the message said |
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| 14:24 | <franzel> | didn't do the update....used the install option and whatever didn't complete re-downloaded |
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| 14:24 | <franzel> | apt-get install |
| 14:24 | <retrospectacus> | 11:17 < franzel> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update |
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| 14:25 | <franzel> | yes...I tried the update and it didn't work |
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| 14:25 | <franzel> | thanks chealer |
| 14:25 | <retrospectacus> | you just said it did |
| 14:26 | <franzel> | retrospectacus: sorry, I meant to say that when I did the update, it didn't fix the problem...after I did install, it noticed some of the files were missing and installed them. |
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| 14:29 | <retrospectacus> | well no, apt-get update will just get all your lists up-to-date with new hashes. You still have to try the install command again, it won't do that for you |
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| 14:29 | <franzel> | ahh...ok. I thought the update installs them. |
| 14:30 | <franzel> | thanks retrospectacus |
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| 14:31 | <retrospectacus> | no problem franzel |
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| 14:34 | <franzel> | retrospectacus: is there a paste bin where I can show you my log? |
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| 14:36 | <franzel> | found one -> Can someone take a look plz http://pastebin.com/aWvj62kD |
| 14:36 | <sney> | --fix-missing is an option, not a command |
| 14:37 | <franzel> | thanks sney |
| 14:37 | <sney> | but except for the brain farts at the beginning, that all looks normal |
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| 14:38 | <retrospectacus> | yeah looks pretty fine |
| 14:38 | <franzel> | OK...so I don't have to worry about the Hash Sum mismatch? |
| 14:38 | <retrospectacus> | not anymore, your lists are up to date |
| 14:38 | <retrospectacus> | after running apt-get update |
| 14:38 | <franzel> | great thanks guys |
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| 15:01 | <xarabeto> | buenas |
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| 15:08 | <Kr8termass> | whats the best way to switch gateways from a cron job? |
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| 15:09 | <Kr8termass> | etc/init.d/networking restart throws up an error about something being deprciated and justs hangs... |
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| 15:11 | <jhutchins_wk> | Kr8termass: Use the route or ip command. |
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| 15:12 | <Kr8termass> | <jhutchins_wk>, thanks will look those up and try them, I'm still a bit of noob... :) |
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| 15:13 | <jhutchins_wk> | Kr8termass: That's why I'm not giving you a formula, you sound like you want to learn. |
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| 15:14 | <Kr8termass> | :) |
| 15:14 | <jhutchins_wk> | Kr8termass: Besides, I usualy have to mess with the syntax a bit before I get it right. |
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| 15:15 | <Kr8termass> | thx mate, your right - I'd rather know what the command does than just copy it... |
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| 15:22 | <jhutchins_wk> | ;) |
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| 15:29 | <Kr8termass> | <jhutchins_wk> thx-mate, got what I need working with the route command, sometimes the net and books are too much info, you just need to ask someone... |
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| 15:30 | <jhutchins_wk> | Kr8termass: Not all man pages are helpful either. |
| 15:31 | <jhutchins_wk> | Kr8termass: You'll want to delete the old gateway when you add the new. |
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| 15:37 | <Kr8termass> | <jhutchins_wk> thx - I saw the "del" option and used it - it's good that I don't need to restart the networking - it's just works on the fly. |
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| 15:38 | <Kr8termass> | Means I can just jump between my dd-wrt router with a UK vpn and my local isp |
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| 15:38 | <Kr8termass> | so that I can watch BBC iPlayer when I want :) |
| 15:40 | <retrospectacus> | sneaky ;) jhutchins_wk left |
| 15:40 | <Dingir> | Hello... It seems there is no support for an UEFI install in Debian stable... Is it possible in unstable/testing? |
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| 15:41 | <ompaul> | !tell Dingir about kmuto |
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| 15:41 | <Kr8termass> | <retrospectacus> lol did'nt see that he left... |
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| 15:41 | <ompaul> | Dingir: that image will give you stable packages with a more modern kernel |
| 15:42 | <Dingir> | ompaul: Thanks, I'll look into it. ;) |
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| 15:53 | <Anastasia95> | hi all somebody help me to fix a bug in google earth please |
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| 15:54 | <Anastasia95> | http://paste.debian.net/155481/ |
| 15:54 | <Anastasia95> | please please please ^^ |
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| 15:55 | <sney> | you have to contact google for that kind of thing |
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| 15:56 | <Anastasia95> | sney: how can i contact them? |
| 15:56 | <Anastasia95> | :S |
| 15:56 | <eightyeight> | http://support.google.com/earth/?hl=en |
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| 16:03 | <houms> | does anyone know if Debian will exclude the Mozilla's Metrics Data Ping project from debian iceweasel? |
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| 16:05 | <sney> | houms: probably not unless it's nonfree somehow. iceweasel and firefox differ only in branding afaik |
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| 16:06 | <houms> | damn , i was hoping it would not include it as the stuff i am reading about it is not very debian-like in spirit |
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| 16:06 | <houms> | thanks sney for your response |
| 16:06 | <sney> | talk to the mozilla team to be sure |
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| 16:07 | <Anastasia95> | http://support.google.com/earth/?hl=en |
| 16:07 | <Anastasia95> | pls help |
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| 16:08 | <Anastasia95> | i have probs with google earth |
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| 16:08 | <Anastasia95> | :( |
| 16:08 | <baliano> | hello |
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| 16:08 | <Anastasia95> | hi |
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| 16:08 | <retrospectacus> | Anastasia95: google earth is not part of Debian. Talk to google. |
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| 16:08 | <Anastasia95> | :S |
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| 16:08 | <houms> | sney the deb mozilla team right? |
| 16:08 | <baliano> | someone hs installed lxdm on debian squeeze? |
| 16:09 | <Anastasia95> | ur earth doesnt work too? |
| 16:09 | <sney> | houms: yes. |
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| 16:09 | <sney> | baliano: lxde? |
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| 16:10 | <sney> | Anastasia95: http://support.google.com/earth/bin/request.py this is the link you need, please stop asking for Google product support in #debian |
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| 16:10 | <eightyeight> | Anastasia95: two problems: 1) google-earth is proprietary software. you're not going to find a lot of sympathy for that sort of thing here. 2) we've told you where to get the proper support. twice. |
| 16:10 | <sney> | gone already anyway |
| 16:10 | <eightyeight> | *shrug* |
| 16:10 | <baliano> | sney: not lxdm, it's a display manager as gdm but more light |
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| 16:11 | <eightyeight> | baliano: lightdm? |
| 16:11 | <baliano> | lxdm man |
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| 16:12 | <eightyeight> | http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDM |
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| 16:12 | <eightyeight> | didn't know until now, that lxdm existed |
| 16:12 | <baliano> | ah ok.. |
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| 16:13 | <semko> | hey guys, i am a newcomer to debian. one question: i am running squeeze stable (on my home desktop pc) and the kernel version is 2.6.32-5-amd64. if i add sid repository will there be an update for it? |
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| 16:14 | <sney> | semko: don't mix sid and stable. |
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| 16:14 | <retrospectacus> | semko: sure, but you should not do that |
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| 16:14 | <sney> | semko: if you want a new kernel, see http://backports.debian.org/ but know that it might add bugs |
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| 16:15 | <retrospectacus> | semko: are you having a problem with the old kernel? |
| 16:15 | <sney> | judd: kernels |
| 16:15 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.4-1); wheezy: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.8-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.2.1-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 16:15 | <semko> | retrospectacus, no i am not. |
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| 16:16 | <baliano> | judd: hoe recompile kernel from backport |
| 16:16 | <retrospectacus> | semko: then don't worry about it |
| 16:16 | <baliano> | squeeze-backport |
| 16:16 | <semko> | how about if i want (say) iceweasel's latest version. backports again? |
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| 16:17 | <retrospectacus> | for new iceweasel see instructions at mozilla.debian.net |
| 16:17 | <retrospectacus> | but for (say) pidgin, yes backports |
| 16:18 | <baliano> | with backport presents on /var/apt/sourcelist/ how do i upgrade my kernel, tnx? |
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| 16:18 | <semko> | so using backports won't get me a mixed system as opposed to using unstable? |
| 16:19 | <retrospectacus> | semko: correct, backports are newer software, ported to work on the older base OS |
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| 16:20 | <retrospectacus> | !tell baliano about bpo kernel |
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| 16:21 | <semko> | retrospectacus: is using unstable really have dire consequences for home users? |
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| 16:23 | <retrospectacus> | semko: yes, most likely. It's called unstable for a reason ;) |
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| 16:24 | <semko> | then i guess what i heard about unstable being more stable than most distros is a myth |
| 16:25 | <retrospectacus> | I can't say anything about any other distros |
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| 16:25 | <valdyn> | !mdn |
| 16:25 | <dpkg> | Backports of the Iceweasel web browser and Icedove mail client are not available from <debian backports>. See http://mozilla.debian.net/ for newer Iceweasel and Icedove for squeeze, wheezy and sid. Work continues to get the packages into the official archive without breaking too many other applications using XUL. Also ask me about <transition>, <squeeze-backports>, <testing>. |
| 16:25 | <valdyn> | ^^ |
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| 16:28 | <semko> | sney & retrospectacus: thanks a lot for your answers. |
| 16:29 | <retrospectacus> | you're welcome. |
| 16:29 | <baliano> | the same for me!! |
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| 16:43 | <scientes> | whats the recommended and supported groupware solution for debian? |
| 16:43 | <scientes> | or just webmail |
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| 16:46 | <retrospectacus> | ,info evolution |
| 16:46 | <judd> | Package evolution (gnome, optional) in squeeze/i386: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. Version: 2.30.3-5; Size: 1087.9k; Installed: 4596k; Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/evolution |
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| 16:46 | <scientes> | for server |
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| 16:46 | <retrospectacus> | ah |
| 16:46 | <retrospectacus> | citadel I thinks |
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| 16:47 | <scientes> | i was turned off by no Maildir support |
| 16:47 | <scientes> | but horde3 was old |
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| 16:48 | <scientes> | guess i'll go with citadel |
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| 16:51 | <scientes> | gmm the debian package doesn't support postfix, unlike upstream |
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| 17:09 | <W4sh> | hey |
| 17:09 | <W4sh> | wtf |
| 17:09 | <infinity0> | is there a way to reattach "readonly" to a screen session? |
| 17:09 | <infinity0> | e.g. i can see the terminal but i can't accidentally type commands to it |
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| 17:12 | <scientes> | cause there is no pts? |
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| 17:16 | <retrospectacus> | infinity0: I don't think so. Try #screen on irc.freenode.net |
| 17:16 | <infinity0> | ah thanks |
| 17:16 | <infinity0> | didn't know that existed |
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| 17:36 | <mlowman> | I've been having an issue with pinning :( |
| 17:36 | <mlowman> | It's mostly described here: http://serverfault.com/questions/357052/how-can-i-apt-pin-stable |
| 17:37 | <mlowman> | but the gist of it is I can't seem to get stable set to over 1000 for some reason, and I don't really know what I'm doing wrong |
| 17:38 | <themill> | mlowman: there aren't really that many good uses for pinning, particularly when you're running stable. What are you really trying to achieve |
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| 17:39 | <mlowman> | I started out with testing, but decided I'd like to bring it back down to stable except for two or three packages |
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| 17:39 | * | themill can't imagine that working out well |
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| 17:40 | <themill> | mlowman: in any case, you should look at the output of "apt-cache policy" to see what apt thinks the repo labels/names/etc are |
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| 17:40 | <mlowman> | I've got the output in the question |
| 17:40 | <mlowman> | but I can pastebin it somewhere if that's better |
| 17:40 | <themill> | no, that's apt-cache policy packagename; I mean apt-cache policy |
| 17:40 | <mlowman> | ah |
| 17:40 | <retrospectacus> | http://paste.debian.net <- put it there :) |
| 17:42 | <mlowman> | this is a bit embarrassing, but i just upgraded my kernel and need to reboot so I can vpn in |
| 17:42 | <mlowman> | back in about 2 or 3 minutes, hopefully :-/ |
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| 17:47 | <mlowman> | http://paste.debian.net/155502/ |
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| 17:50 | <mlowman> | and this is the current contents of /etc/apt/preferences.d/drupaltesting |
| 17:50 | <mlowman> | http://paste.debian.net/155503/ |
| 17:51 | <themill> | mlowman: your comment lines probably don't do what you think they do btw |
| 17:52 | <themill> | I've seen that cause problems many times before |
| 17:52 | <mlowman> | really? |
| 17:52 | <mlowman> | you mean, take out comment lines? |
| 17:52 | <mlowman> | or the description ones are wrong? |
| 17:52 | <mlowman> | which I somewhat figured might be the case |
| 17:53 | <themill> | there's no comment character in the apt preferences syntax |
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| 17:54 | <mlowman> | themill: well, removing comment lines does nothing |
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| 17:54 | <mlowman> | now it's just three sections, one empty line between each |
| 17:54 | <themill> | ok. And what's not working? |
| 17:55 | <mlowman> | I still see 990 for the stable repos |
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| 17:55 | <themill> | do you have anything else in /etc/apt/preferences{,.d}? |
| 17:56 | <mlowman> | nope |
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| 17:57 | <mlowman> | themill: http://paste.debian.net/155504/ |
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| 18:21 | <][> | I've an audio related question I was hoping someone could help me figure out |
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| 18:22 | <grimmy> | ][ just make a question |
| 18:23 | <BooBahShnoo> | hmm? |
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| 18:23 | <][> | Well, basically I'm wondering if there's anyway to redirect sound from two different applications to two different audio jacks, ie: I want to have sound from Skype or Teamspeak come through my headphones while being able to simultaneously listen to music through my speakers. |
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| 18:25 | <BooBahShnoo> | ][, could you not use different sound servers for this? |
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| 18:26 | <][> | I probably could but I have no idea how to go about doing that |
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| 18:26 | <][> | All I know is that I currently have both alsa and pulse installed, and I have 6 audio jacks. |
| 18:27 | <BooBahShnoo> | ][, can you specify a sound server in Skype? |
| 18:27 | <][> | sec |
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| 18:28 | <][> | It allows you to specify servers for Mic, Speakers, and Ringing |
| 18:28 | <][> | that's it though |
| 18:28 | <][> | no headphone |
| 18:28 | <][> | and currently it lists pulse as the only server o.o |
| 18:29 | <grimmy> | ][, well if you stick up headphones it is a point to transfer sound there - whats the problem listening to both music and skype sounds |
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| 18:30 | <BooBahShnoo> | grimmy, i think what he's trying to do is use his headset for conversations, but his speakers for music... not necessarily at the same time |
| 18:30 | <][> | ^ |
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| 18:31 | <][> | It'd be advantageous to be able use them at the same time, but not really necessary |
| 18:32 | <BooBahShnoo> | ][, all i can find is info on switching between sound servers, not running them at the same time.... |
| 18:32 | <][> | Hmm. |
| 18:32 | <][> | Well, maybe I can just do some more Googling. Thanks :) |
| 18:32 | <BooBahShnoo> | good luck! :) |
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| 18:45 | <BooBahShnoo> | so, I'm a bit of a Debian noob, and it's quiet in here, so I'll ask.... I restarted my Debian box today after updating, and the system doesn't entirely shut down, almost like part of the kernel stays in memory. What causes this? |
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| 18:51 | <BooBahShnoo> | anyone? :) |
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| 18:53 | <abrotman> | is it still doing it, or just that once? |
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| 18:56 | <BooBahShnoo> | no no, i think this is a feature lol - if I select restart, it doesn't go all the way down and reload the BIOS, etc - it's like it picks up part way through the shutdown. I mean, it's great, just wondered what causes this... a util, or is this a kernel compilation option |
| 18:57 | <BooBahShnoo> | maybe I'm not explaining properly, but if I issue shutdown -r now on an Ubuntu box, it shuts down (doesn't power off), loads the BIOS and reboots. Doing the same on Debian does something different, not BIOS is reloaded, etc - I didn't know why it was different and what causes it to be so. |
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| 19:02 | <jhutchins> | BooBahShnoo: What release? |
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| 19:03 | <jhutchins> | There's an issue where systems don't go down all the way. It's helpful to know what the screen displays when it stops. |
| 19:03 | <themill> | sounds like kexec |
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| 19:04 | <scientes> | I just got a mimo 710, and the touchscreen is 180 deg off |
| 19:04 | <scientes> | how do i fix it? |
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| 19:09 | <BooBahShnoo> | themill, kexec exactly what it is.... thanks! something new to read about. why don't more distros use this? I've never encountered it before. |
| 19:09 | <themill> | !kexec |
| 19:09 | <dpkg> | kexec allows the system to load a kernel from a running kernel and boot into it, skipping the BIOS and bootloader stage of a reboot. To disable, "dpkg-reconfigure kexec-tools" or uninstall with "aptitude remove kexec-tools". To skip using kexec once, use /sbin/coldreboot |
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| 19:09 | <themill> | istr a nice article on lwn.net about it |
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| 19:11 | <scientes> | oh debian used kexec by default now? |
| 19:11 | <scientes> | *uses |
| 19:12 | <BooBahShnoo> | 6.0.4 does at least |
| 19:12 | <BooBahShnoo> | it was neat and I didn't know what caused it |
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| 19:13 | <scientes> | for shutdown -r 0 ? |
| 19:14 | <scientes> | thats not my experience on wheezy |
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| 19:14 | <BooBahShnoo> | just restarting from Gnome.... not on wheezy on squeeze |
| 19:14 | <BooBahShnoo> | I'll give it a shot at the CLI and see what it does |
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| 19:14 | <scientes> | ahhhh, must be a gnome thing then |
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| 19:15 | <scientes> | also, i'm using systemd, so that would be a whole differn't thing |
| 19:15 | <scientes> | but kexec by default would be cool |
| 19:15 | <scientes> | cause its alot faster |
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| 19:16 | <BooBahShnoo> | sudo shutdown -r now in the shell uses kexec |
| 19:16 | <BooBahShnoo> | that's cool lol |
| 19:16 | <BooBahShnoo> | 32-bit also not sure if it's been ported to x64 |
| 19:17 | <scientes> | kexec even exists on ARM |
| 19:17 | <scientes> | (havn't used it, but compiled it in) |
| 19:18 | <BooBahShnoo> | too bad it affects my uptime lol |
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| 19:24 | <BooBahShnoo> | so is this channel always this quiet? lol |
| 19:25 | <scientes> | affects uptime? |
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| 19:25 | <scientes> | actually it would only effect kernel uptime by a few seconds |
| 19:26 | <scientes> | or prob milliseconds |
| 19:26 | <BooBahShnoo> | totally reset mine |
| 19:26 | <scientes> | oh yeah, but the downtime of the uptime |
| 19:26 | <scientes> | lol |
| 19:26 | <BooBahShnoo> | lol |
| 19:26 | <scientes> | what should I use for a touchscreen |
| 19:26 | <scientes> | BooBahShnoo, you should install uptimed |
| 19:26 | <scientes> | if you are interested in that |
| 19:27 | <scientes> | I have a non-accelerated (fb) touchscreen |
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| 19:28 | <BooBahShnoo> | scientes, so uptimed looks at kernel time? |
| 19:29 | <scientes> | BooBahShnoo, no, it just records your uptime for each session, keeps records that you can display with uprecords, and displays your total uptime in percentage |
| 19:30 | <BooBahShnoo> | scientes, I'll have to check that out. To be honest, it never really mattered to me until I started comparing my Linux servers to my Windows servers.... I have a Linux box going on a year and it pains me to reboot it lol |
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| 19:32 | <BooBahShnoo> | scientes, how come you have a touchscreen, btw? fb = framebuffer? |
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| 19:39 | <scientes> | BooBahShnoo, yes i know framebuffer |
| 19:39 | <scientes> | its a mimo 710 usb-ONLY touchsceen |
| 19:41 | <BooBahShnoo> | scientes, what isn't it doing for you? |
| 19:43 | <robbiethe1st> | The touchscreen should show up as a mouse-like device, right? |
| 19:43 | <BooBahShnoo> | correct |
| 19:43 | <BooBahShnoo> | that's my experience |
| 19:45 | <scientes> | i need x = x_max - x, y = y_max - y |
| 19:45 | <scientes> | its 180 deg off |
| 19:45 | <scientes> | also, I need a DE that is suited for a touchscreen, with options for on-screen keyboard |
| 19:45 | <robbiethe1st> | Uh, gnome(2) will do it |
| 19:46 | <scientes> | robbiethe1st, its framebuffer only, no acceleration |
| 19:46 | <robbiethe1st> | and touchscreen rotation is definitely possible... |
| 19:46 | <robbiethe1st> | Uh... gnome 2 will do that |
| 19:46 | <scientes> | ahh 2, is there anything that is expected to be supported into the future? |
| 19:46 | <scientes> | and would take less disk space, this is an embedded device |
| 19:47 | <robbiethe1st> | I dunno. Running Ubuntu 10.10 on my HP TC1100 |
| 19:47 | <robbiethe1st> | also see http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/TC1100#Rotation_control_for_GNOME |
| 19:47 | <robbiethe1st> | may help |
| 19:48 | <scientes> | its not a wacom tablet |
| 19:49 | <scientes> | its "usbtouchscreen" driver in linux |
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| 20:00 | <lakis> | l |
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| 20:30 | <scientes> | !ask |
| 20:30 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 20:50 | <Xdept> | Hey, Has anyone used Debian + E-350 CPU? |
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| 20:51 | <DocHolliday> | Negative Xdept |
| 20:51 | <gnufreedom> | i'm trying to exclude directories with find. find / -type d \( -wholename /proc -o -wholename /var/backups \) -prune ==> this doesn't exlude /proc nor /var/backups - what am I doing wrong? |
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| 21:11 | <simonlnu> | gnufreedom: -prune in wrong order maybe (i'd need to check) |
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| 21:12 | <scientes> | Xdept, I believe that CPU uses PowerVR graphics (GMA 500) which have driver issues |
| 21:13 | <scientes> | I've had ppl try to set me that platform, cause it supports CAN bus |
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| 21:18 | <zk> | hello. is someone available for a question? |
| 21:19 | <X-LP> | ask :) |
| 21:19 | <Xdept> | !ask |
| 21:19 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:19 | <Xdept> | scientes, I want to just use it for a Xen Platform |
| 21:19 | <Xdept> | (Without frontend) |
| 21:20 | <zk> | i've tried to create xorg.conf by running sudo Xorg -configure and it states that my xorg.conf file is located at /root/xorg.conf.new ... is there a problem if the file is there and not in /etc/X11 ? |
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| 21:22 | <zk> | i'm trying to get some 3d support for a radeon card using the radeon driver...and i was fallowing the guide at http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
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| 21:23 | <Xdept> | mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
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| 21:23 | <diederik> | Hi, I have a file with a 'funny' character in it's name, which prevents me from copying/renaming/etc. What can I do about that? |
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| 21:24 | <Xdept> | diederik, Need more info? Have you tried sudo mv <file> <new_name> |
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| 21:25 | <zk> | Xdept, well that was the question...should i move it or just leave it there and edit it there? :) |
| 21:25 | <diederik> | Xdept: will try to post the filenames in a bit. |
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| 21:25 | <arand> | diederik: What is the funny character? |
| 21:26 | <Xdept> | zk, If you want it to load every time you boot, Chuck it into /etc/X11 However it is fine for testing if you run xorg --config /root/xorg.conf.new. Or something along those lines/ |
| 21:26 | <diederik> | The Panty Piñata Polarization |
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| 21:27 | <diederik> | The 'n' in Pinata is causing issues and is rendered in Konsole with an ? |
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| 21:27 | <zk> | Xdept, ook...i'll move it and start messing around :)) |
| 21:27 | <diederik> | That in return causes me to not being able to mv/cp/etc |
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| 21:28 | <Xdept> | Oh, diederik, use mv The\ Panty\ Piata\ Polarization\ something_without_spaces? |
| 21:28 | <diederik> | Xdept: I copied the real name from a website, the file name is with '.' instead of spaces |
| 21:29 | <arand> | diederik: Not even if you tab complete it? |
| 21:29 | <diederik> | arand: no, since I have both a mkv and a srt file of it, with the same filename issue |
| 21:30 | <Xdept> | Are you using command line |
| 21:30 | <diederik> | Yes, and tried it with Dolphin |
| 21:30 | <diederik> | both give the same error |
| 21:30 | <Xdept> | What about as root? |
| 21:31 | <arand> | It sounds like missing utf8 support or something, which I don't see how it would happen. |
| 21:31 | <arand> | (It works fine with this char in gnome-terminal for me) |
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| 21:31 | <diederik> | same problem, I don't know which character to paste and/or tab-completion waits for me type the problem character |
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| 21:32 | <arand> | diederik: A way around it may be "ls The.Pan* | xargs mv dir/" |
| 21:33 | <diederik> | If I copy the char from a webpage, it shows the char, but it's not recognised as the char from the filename. arand: Will try that now |
| 21:33 | <arand> | Or, "xargs mv {} dir/", I forget how the syntax does it |
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| 21:35 | <arand> | You may want to just "ls The.Pan*.mkv | xargs mv '{}' tppp.mkv" to get rid of the char for now... |
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| 21:38 | <arand> | diederik: If you run "set | grep LANG" is it set as utf8 there? |
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| 21:40 | <diederik> | arand: en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 21:42 | <scientes> | Xdept, I strongly recommend KVM over xen |
| 21:42 | <diederik> | arand: doesn't work either, get 'Not such file or directory' error |
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| 21:42 | <scientes> | you can install a very light kvm host, infact some people have been able to use coreboot to put KVM right on the BIOS chip for example |
| 21:43 | <scientes> | but i definitely recommend KVM for virtualization |
| 21:43 | <scientes> | the only feature that i know xen has that kvm doesn't is _primary_ vga IOMMU forwarding |
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| 21:45 | <diederik> | arand: http://paste.debian.net/155525/ gives an interesting error msg |
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| 21:48 | <XeL> | hi |
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| 21:49 | <Xdept> | hey XeL |
| 21:50 | <scientes> | why isn't chromium available on ARM? v8 is available on arm? |
| 21:51 | <XeL> | I searching about somebody who runs under debian squeeze (32 or 64) one of these 2 raid card (1 fake) Lsi Megaraid 8204ELP or Adaptec 1430SA ;) |
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| 21:52 | <XeL> | anyone ? |
| 21:53 | <XeL> | I just want to know if its possible to run under debian not how ;) |
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| 21:56 | <XeL> | (dont know scientes) it seems to be there few people but busy ;) |
| 21:57 | <scientes> | fake raid == yuck |
| 21:57 | <scientes> | or really any RAID that isn't real 5/6 |
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| 21:59 | <XeL> | huhu ;) |
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| 21:59 | <XeL> | for lsi i think it s an entry line |
| 22:01 | <XeL> | i got a 9240-8i too but it s crash after a firmware update => warranty => they refund me and says they cant repair lol |
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| 22:02 | <XeL> | i v heard about an other contructor but don t remember the name |
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| 22:04 | <scientes> | cause fake raids are definitely best avoided |
| 22:06 | <diederik> | scientes: software raid = fake raid -> avoid? |
| 22:06 | <scientes> | the software raids in linux are fine |
| 22:06 | <diederik> | phew, thanks |
| 22:06 | <XeL> | lol |
| 22:06 | <scientes> | a fake raid is implamented in the BIOS |
| 22:07 | <scientes> | wait, a fake raid is implamented in a windows driver |
| 22:07 | <scientes> | not the BIOS |
| 22:07 | <diederik> | my old MB had it, but never used it |
| 22:08 | <scientes> | a real raid 5/6 card takes off some cpu load, and allows better DMA |
| 22:08 | <XeL> | many times i tried fake raid on mb or dedicated card but nothing fine |
| 22:08 | <scientes> | cause 5/6 are the only ones that require require real processing |
| 22:08 | <scientes> | there are actually special XOR processors on CPUS for raid 5/6 |
| 22:09 | <XeL> | just in case i got these 2 cards only for raid 1 or 10 ;) not for 5/6 |
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| 22:10 | <franzel> | hello all....has anyone installed debian with the howtoforge guide "Installing Perfect Server - Debian Squeeze" |
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| 22:11 | <XeL> | i try few years ago but i start with a french guide |
| 22:12 | <franzel> | XeL: where is phpmyadmin installed....typically it is at localhost/phpmyadmin |
| 22:12 | <XeL> | i think it s good guide from howtoforge for starting debian setup |
| 22:12 | <Xdept> | /usr/share/phpmyadmin |
| 22:12 | <franzel> | Xdept: what about the web access? |
| 22:13 | <Xdept> | You have to add it to apache. Maybe try service apache2 restart |
| 22:13 | <XeL> | sometimes with iredmail for example you need to use https |
| 22:13 | <franzel> | ok let me try |
| 22:14 | <franzel> | XeL: not there https://ipaddress/phpmyadmin |
| 22:14 | <Xdept> | Try just http:// |
| 22:14 | <franzel> | tried that too and no luck |
| 22:15 | <Xdept> | Okay, What is the error? |
| 22:15 | <Xdept> | Forbidden? Or Not Found? |
| 22:15 | <franzel> | I installed apache on http://192.168.2.xxx |
| 22:15 | <franzel> | and I get the it works! |
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| 22:16 | <Xdept> | What is the error when you go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin? |
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| 22:16 | <franzel> | but when I put in http://192.168.2.xxx/phpmyadmin URL not found |
| 22:16 | <Xdept> | Ah |
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| 22:16 | <Xdept> | Okay, You need to add phpmyadmin to your apache config |
| 22:16 | <franzel> | which is why I can't seem to find it |
| 22:16 | <Xdept> | Go to /etc/apache2/conf.d |
| 22:16 | <Xdept> | Is there a file in there called phpmyadmin/conf? |
| 22:17 | <Xdept> | *phpmyadmin.conf |
| 22:17 | <franzel> | let me see |
| 22:17 | <franzel> | Xdept: for debian, isn't it /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf |
| 22:18 | <XeL> | i don t think it will do the same like in /etc/apache2/conf.d |
| 22:19 | <XeL> | if i remember at the end you can check if it load something for phpmyadmin |
| 22:19 | <scientes> | iceweasel 10 is seg faulting on launch on my armv5 |
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| 22:20 | <Xdept> | I have it |
| 22:20 | <Xdept> | Go to /etc/apache2/conf,d |
| 22:20 | <Xdept> | Tell me if you see phpmyadmin.conf |
| 22:20 | <franzel> | it is blank |
| 22:20 | <Xdept> | rm -Rf phpmyadmin.conf |
| 22:21 | <Xdept> | ln -s ../../phpmyadmin/apache.conf phpmyadmin.conf |
| 22:21 | <scientes> | umm, no need for the -R |
| 22:21 | <Xdept> | That should do it |
| 22:21 | <scientes> | or even the -f (it will prompt maybe once) |
| 22:21 | <Xdept> | Just my universal command |
| 22:21 | <Xdept> | :/ |
| 22:21 | <scientes> | its kinda overkill |
| 22:21 | <Xdept> | I know |
| 22:21 | <Xdept> | But it does anything |
| 22:21 | <scientes> | cause there is no unrm |
| 22:22 | <Xdept> | fine rm phpmyadmin.conf |
| 22:22 | <scientes> | i think the capital R will even traverse filesystems |
| 22:22 | <franzel> | no phpmyadmin.conf |
| 22:22 | <Xdept> | ln -s ../../phpmyadmin/apache.conf phpmyadmin.conf |
| 22:23 | <franzel> | in "/etc/apache2/conf.d" |
| 22:23 | <XeL> | (R for recursive) |
| 22:23 | <Xdept> | Yes franzel |
| 22:23 | <Xdept> | Then service apache2 restart |
| 22:24 | <Xdept> | Then http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ |
| 22:24 | <franzel> | xdept you have the "/etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf" ? |
| 22:24 | <Xdept> | XeL, I know, It is just for when Deleting Directories |
| 22:24 | <Xdept> | What do you mean franzel |
| 22:24 | <franzel> | I cannot find the file you want me to delete |
| 22:25 | <Xdept> | If it isn't there, Don't delete it |
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| 22:25 | <Xdept> | Just run that ln line |
| 22:26 | <franzel> | the ln -s line? |
| 22:26 | <Xdept> | XeL, It's more of a habit than anything |
| 22:26 | <Xdept> | Yes franzel |
| 22:26 | <franzel> | ran the line |
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| 22:26 | <Xdept> | Now service apache2 restart |
| 22:27 | <franzel> | apache has been restarted |
| 22:27 | <franzel> | let me check |
| 22:27 | <Xdept> | Should work |
| 22:27 | <franzel> | still not found |
| 22:28 | <Xdept> | Type: cat /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf |
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| 22:28 | <franzel> | "No such file or directory" |
| 22:28 | <Xdept> | *Face Palm* |
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| 22:29 | <Xdept> | ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf |
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| 22:30 | <franzel> | ran that "ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf" |
| 22:30 | <franzel> | restart apache? |
| 22:30 | <Xdept> | Yup |
| 22:30 | <Xdept> | just run that cat again |
| 22:30 | <Xdept> | Does it give you any output |
| 22:30 | <franzel> | yes...it gave output |
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| 22:31 | <Xdept> | There we go, Restart apache and goto web browser |
| 22:31 | <franzel> | found it |
| 22:31 | <franzel> | what happened with my install? |
| 22:31 | <XeL> | ok but care with rm and -R ;) |
| 22:31 | <Xdept> | franzel, What do you mean? |
| 22:31 | <XeL> | one time i miss my directory i was out ;) huhu |
| 22:32 | <franzel> | phpmyadmin is now running |
| 22:32 | <franzel> | thanks xdepts |
| 22:32 | <Xdept> | Cool |
| 22:32 | <franzel> | Xdept: sorry typo |
| 22:32 | <Xdept> | No Problem |
| 22:33 | <franzel> | I had debian running a few days ago, then I decide to follow the forge guide, cause the set up looks real nice, but now I am really lost |
| 22:33 | <XeL> | Xdept i think say wrong (r are same R with rm ?) |
| 22:33 | <Xdept> | franzel, What are you lost with? |
| 22:34 | <Xdept> | XeL, Haha, What? |
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| 22:34 | <franzel> | a few of the things I installed like bind9 and squirrelmail |
| 22:34 | <Xdept> | Do you know what a DNS server does? |
| 22:34 | <franzel> | in the past I had no-ip.com for my dns |
| 22:34 | <franzel> | then I wanted to install bind9 so that no need for no-ip.com was my assumption |
| 22:35 | <Xdept> | Yup, That first part is right. The second part, not so... |
| 22:35 | <Xdept> | You can easily buy a domain name |
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| 22:35 | <Xdept> | and then point it to your IP address |
| 22:35 | <franzel> | I bought a domain name with go daddy |
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| 22:35 | <Xdept> | Yup, Go to the domain settings |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | And add an A record |
| 22:36 | <franzel> | xdept...I guess with dynamic ip it will be a problem? |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | Oh :/ |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | Well.... |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | Easy fix |
| 22:36 | <franzel> | really? |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | You can use no-ip.com |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | Then just add a cname from go daddy |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | :P |
| 22:36 | <Xdept> | Then add all your MX records (Mail) to the cname (alias) |
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| 22:36 | <franzel> | do you mind helping me set it up? |
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| 22:37 | <franzel> | i am now at godaddy |
| 22:37 | <Xdept> | Do you have a no-ip address? |
| 22:37 | <franzel> | yes |
| 22:38 | <franzel> | but, I still haven't installed the ap that monitors your dynamic ip to change the no-ip ip address |
| 22:38 | <Xdept> | Does it stay persistent? ie, does it change with your IP? |
| 22:38 | <XeL> | i usually write rm -fr * when i want to clean a directory to untar something in again ;) |
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| 22:38 | <Xdept> | franzel, You will need it to do that |
| 22:38 | <XeL> | i lost some other stuff like this lol |
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| 22:39 | <franzel> | ok...give me a min and will install the app |
| 22:39 | <Xdept> | XeL, I have lost a few projects doing that :P |
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| 22:40 | <XeL> | welcome ;) |
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| 22:48 | <franzel> | Xdept: just got no-ip client installed |
| 22:48 | <franzel> | now working |
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| 22:49 | <franzel> | I am also logged in at godaddy |
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| 22:52 | <franzel> | Xdept: are you still available? |
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| 22:53 | <XeL> | seems not |
| 22:53 | <Xdept> | I am still here |
| 22:54 | <XeL> | ;) |
| 22:54 | <franzel> | sweet |
| 22:54 | <Xdept> | You have to go to the domain manager on go daddy |
| 22:54 | <franzel> | already there |
| 22:54 | <Xdept> | add a cname (alias) |
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| 22:54 | <Xdept> | @ <yourdomain>.no-ip.com |
| 22:54 | <Xdept> | Something like that |
| 22:54 | <Xdept> | Then apply |
| 22:55 | <Xdept> | Then go to your domain |
| 22:55 | <franzel> | do I add record at dns manager? |
| 22:55 | <Xdept> | Yeah, That's what I meant |
| 22:56 | <franzel> | Enter an alias? Points to Host Name? |
| 22:56 | <Xdept> | Yup |
| 22:56 | <franzel> | lol...that was a question |
| 22:56 | <Xdept> | Give me one sec to fire up my godaddy |
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| 22:58 | <Xdept> | Under host put @ and under points to put <yourdomain>.no-ip.com |
| 22:58 | <franzel> | you mean under alias put @ |
| 22:59 | <XeL> | Xdept for virtualhost could he put cname : * <yourdomain>.no-ip.com ? |
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| 22:59 | <Xdept> | That's what I mean |
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| 23:00 | <XeL> | it s the same @ or * . |
| 23:00 | <XeL> | ? |
| 23:00 | <Xdept> | @ doesn't seem to work :/ |
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| 23:00 | <franzel> | Xdept: I am assuming I don't need the www |
| 23:00 | <XeL> | only with A type maybe ? |
| 23:00 | <Xdept> | But he doesn't have a static IP XeL |
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| 23:03 | <Xdept> | franzel, any way to get a static IP : |
| 23:03 | <Xdept> | ) |
| 23:03 | <XeL> | i try on gandi.net cname with @ doesnt work for me too |
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| 23:03 | <franzel> | static = additional $30 per month...i'm on a tight budget.. |
| 23:03 | <Xdept> | Ohhhh Ouch |
| 23:04 | <XeL> | lol dedicated server about $25 per month ;) |
| 23:04 | <Xdept> | You could buy a vps for cheaper than that? |
| 23:04 | <Xdept> | :P |
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| 23:04 | <XeL> | with good bandwith |
| 23:04 | <XeL> | some space and high avaibility maybe you need to jump in franzel |
| 23:04 | <franzel> | yeah...but I am out in the rural area and all we have is wifi |
| 23:05 | <XeL> | ouch |
| 23:05 | <Xdept> | What does WiFi have to do with anything? |
| 23:05 | <XeL> | wimax ? |
| 23:05 | <franzel> | my internet provider through wifi -> motorolla canopy |
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| 23:05 | <XeL> | forget hosting ;) |
| 23:06 | <Xdept> | I am lost |
| 23:06 | <XeL> | his fai is provide by wifi |
| 23:06 | <Xdept> | Yes yes |
| 23:06 | <Xdept> | I get that bit |
| 23:06 | <Xdept> | Why does it impact on getting a dedi? |
| 23:07 | <franzel> | Xdept: sorry, xel mentioned getting static earlier |
| 23:07 | <XeL> | no impact on dedi just better for everybody want to check his website |
| 23:07 | <franzel> | attention deficit disorder kicked in (ADD) |
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| 23:07 | <Xdept> | It is on a separate line? |
| 23:07 | <Xdept> | Oh MAN I am confused... |
| 23:07 | <XeL> | lol sry |
| 23:07 | <Xdept> | I will get out of this conversation |
| 23:08 | <franzel> | xdept...for cname @ for alias and noip domain for points to host name? |
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| 23:08 | <XeL> | i just say it s better for him to bring a dedicated server online (like ovh or something else) |
| 23:08 | <franzel> | and no www on the (points to Host Name) right? |
| 23:08 | <XeL> | and dont keep static ip from his provider |
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| 23:09 | <XeL> | where you live franzel ? |
| 23:09 | <franzel> | liverpool, tx |
| 23:10 | <XeL> | ok |
| 23:10 | <XeL> | for what do you need to host web service ? |
| 23:11 | <XeL> | it s plane that many people are going on your website ? |
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| 23:13 | <franzel> | is s plane? |
| 23:14 | <franzel> | you mean why do I want to run a webserver? |
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| 23:14 | <XeL> | yes |
| 23:15 | <franzel> | Just to put my personal stuff on and not have to pay a host $4 per month |
| 23:15 | <franzel> | domain name cost $31 for 10 years and points to my home server is pretty sweet |
| 23:15 | <franzel> | XeL: what is the purpose of installing bind9? |
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| 23:16 | <XeL> | i m thinking about your dynamic ip^... |
| 23:18 | <XeL> | your personnal stuff what kind of ?? pictures soft ? |
| 23:18 | <franzel> | is bind9 intended for those with a static ip address? |
| 23:18 | <franzel> | xel yes...pictures blog, etc |
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| 23:20 | <XeL> | did you try on godaddy only use a cname like www CNAME <yourdomain>.no-ip.com |
| 23:20 | <XeL> | and not @ or * |
| 23:20 | <franzel> | XeL: yes...it already works |
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| 23:21 | <franzel> | just used @ for alias |
| 23:21 | <franzel> | and used noip domain for host name |
| 23:21 | <XeL> | @ CNAME works ? |
| 23:22 | <franzel> | think so |
| 23:23 | <XeL> | all is working so ? |
| 23:23 | <franzel> | removing forwarding for domain name and let me see what happens |
| 23:25 | <XeL> | you need to wait sometimes few minutes sometimes few hours don t know if godaddy is fast to refresh |
| 23:25 | <franzel> | Earlier, I set up mydomain for forwarding at godaddy....removing forwarding now and will see if it worked |
| 23:26 | <XeL> | you want to access with your domaine.com or you no-ip.com ? |
| 23:26 | <franzel> | access with domain.com |
| 23:27 | <franzel> | XeL: what is the purpose of bind9? |
| 23:27 | <XeL> | did you to have virtualhost with apache or only 1 website ? |
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| 23:27 | <franzel> | not sure |
| 23:27 | <XeL> | (dont know never need use bind) |
| 23:28 | <XeL> | but maybe i found something about and dynamic ip |
| 23:28 | <franzel> | just installed apach2 and server is running when I put in domain.no-ip.com |
| 23:29 | <XeL> | did you open port on box ? |
| 23:29 | <franzel> | port forward on router |
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| 23:30 | <XeL> | domain.no-ip.com is setting up on box or you don t have anything to set up on ? |
| 23:31 | <franzel> | domain.no-ip.com is pointed to apache on my debian box |
| 23:32 | <XeL> | yes but which is refreshing no-ip if your provider change ? |
| 23:32 | <XeL> | if your ip provider change ? |
| 23:32 | <franzel> | got a no-ip client to monitor my ip address change |
| 23:32 | <XeL> | on your debian ? |
| 23:32 | <franzel> | no-ip client updates ip address every 30 minutes from debian to the no-ip server |
| 23:32 | <XeL> | ok |
| 23:33 | <XeL> | domain.no-ip.com always go at your home no probs |
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| 23:33 | <franzel> | yes |
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| 23:34 | <XeL> | http://blog.famillewallon.com/2009/12/02/bind-installer-un-server-dns-avec-un-ip-dynamique-et-no-ip/ |
| 23:34 | <XeL> | got this but in french |
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| 23:36 | <franzel> | I already have bind9 installed |
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| 23:36 | <franzel> | sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 23:37 | <franzel> | opps |
| 23:37 | <XeL> | miss :)= |
| 23:37 | <XeL> | mis |
| 23:37 | <franzel> | meant to paste that on debian....LOL |
| 23:37 | <XeL> | when you restart apache i m not sure that do something on bind |
| 23:38 | <franzel> | no...I changed apache www default location |
| 23:38 | <XeL> | ok ;) |
| 23:38 | <XeL> | Il est possible d’avoir un ip dynamique (fourni par votre FAI par ex) et avoir un vrais nom de domaine (ex: mydomaine.tld) grâce à no-ip |
| 23:38 | <franzel> | sorry...working on my server at same time we're chatting |
| 23:38 | <XeL> | he say that is possible to get a domain.com with a domain.no-ip.com |
| 23:39 | <sergiuliano> | I am trying to open about 10000 ssh tunnel connections from one debian server to other servers , but it seems I have a limitation of 4096 on the number of connections I can open. Is thare a way to increase this number ? |
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| 23:40 | <sergiuliano> | I am not sure the limitation is on ssh client side or it might be on firewall, I even dont know where to start from or what shall I verify first. can you please help me with this ? |
| 23:40 | <franzel> | Xel...but my idea is to not use the no-ip... |
| 23:40 | <XeL> | you cant |
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| 23:41 | <XeL> | if you get a dynamic ip you need to use no-ip and after domain.com |
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| 23:41 | <XeL> | for example i got a static ip on my server |
| 23:42 | <XeL> | for my domaine on A type i need to use ip |
| 23:42 | <franzel> | not sure it that's correct Xel |
| 23:42 | <XeL> | i m searching about to confirm |
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| 23:43 | <XeL> | i m not an expert ;) |
| 23:43 | <franzel> | this is why I have been looking around and searching |
| 23:43 | <franzel> | I believe that adding record on godaddy and pointing to an ip works |
| 23:44 | <franzel> | XeL: getting late...pm me if you find anything |
| 23:45 | <franzel> | see you later...need to get ready for bed time |
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| 23:45 | <XeL> | if you write A type on go dady to your ip it s working |
| 23:45 | <XeL> | but when provider change you need to update manualy |
| 23:46 | <franzel> | yes, but that is what I would like to avoid and I believe that it is possible |
| 23:46 | <franzel> | good night |
| 23:46 | <XeL> | yes maybe check code in the link i send you |
| 23:46 | <XeL> | it seems to be an alternative to get a domain.com with a dynamic ip |
| 23:46 | <sergiuliano> | can the number of SSH connections initiated FROM a machine to be increased ? It seems I have a limit of 4096 |
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| 23:48 | <XeL> | sergiuliano |
| 23:49 | <XeL> | what did you have at 4097 ssh tunnel in your log ? |
| 23:50 | <sergiuliano> | 2s |
| 23:52 | <XeL> | how many ln card did you get ? |
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| 23:52 | <XeL> | i don t know at all but maybe there are an hardware limitations |
| 23:52 | <sergiuliano> | Failed to get a pseudo terminal: Input/output error |
| 23:54 | <sergiuliano> | I have asked the dedicated server provider and told me that as much they are aware ( serverloft ) there is no hardware limitation on opening connections |
| 23:54 | <XeL> | when ssh tunnel is on (asking) a tty is created ? |
| 23:55 | <XeL> | maybe number of tty is limited ? |
| 23:55 | <sergiuliano> | I see |
| 23:55 | <sergiuliano> | I will try to increase it and get back with feedback asap |
| 23:56 | <XeL> | cat /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 23:56 | <XeL> | maybe here something to dig |
| 23:58 | <sergiuliano> | there are not active limits in this file |
| 23:58 | <XeL> | did you use same login ? |
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| 23:58 | <sergiuliano> | no |
| 23:58 | <sergiuliano> | different login |
| 23:58 | <XeL> | each time ? |
| 23:58 | <sergiuliano> | on few different servers |
| 23:58 | <XeL> | each tunnel ? |
| 23:58 | <sergiuliano> | different login for each tunnel |
| 23:58 | <sergiuliano> | but same IP .... |
| 23:59 | <sergiuliano> | anyway the limit is not on the server side |
| 23:59 | <sergiuliano> | as long as I have 200-300 connections to one server |
| 23:59 | <XeL> | in windows few times get problem with stack size on lan (IRPStackSize value) maybe there something like this on linux |
| 23:59 | <sergiuliano> | and about 1000 to other one, and I have no problem increasing the incomming connection number on server |
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