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00:02<scientes>any good programs to detect codepages and convert to UTF-8?
00:02<scientes>I have IBM PC 866 Cyrillic here
00:02<scientes>and I need to convert it
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00:08<cybersphinx>scientes: cat file | iconv -f encoding > convertedfile
00:09<scientes>what is the name for 866 encoding?
00:09<cybersphinx>Look at iconv -l.
00:09<scientes>I used enca, worked well
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01:29<soulf>hey all, the wallpaper, gtk-theme, and icons that I set don't load. Instead, a blue background and ugly fallback theme with default icons load. The rest works fine (i.e. the shell theme loads correctly, the fonts display correctly, effects work etc.) Changing the settings causes nothing (whether in gnome-tweak-tool or the standard appearance menu no matter what theme or wallpaper I select...) This happened after I installed KDE. I alre
01:29<soulf>ady looked at the dconf-tool and the settings there reflect those of the gnometweaktool and changing them changes nothing. Any ideas?
01:29<compgrokker>are you using kde or gnome?
01:30<soulf>right now gnome.
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02:52<qaz>anybody know where i can downlaod atheros driver for kernel 3.x?
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02:55<mosno>qaz: i see some ath drivers in my modules tree
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02:56<qaz>ther version in the current kernel is NAPI have a nfs bug
02:56<qaz>i founded the new version but is for kernel 2.6
02:57<qaz> 1. add l1d support.
02:57<qaz> 1. fix TSO error.
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02:58<qaz> add l1d support. / fix TSO error.
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02:59<qaz>i doon't get why the kernel version is still
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03:11<deved>Hi :)
03:14<deved>I cannot run a screen recorder such as recordmydesktop...
03:14<deved>Does anyone off hand know of any alternatives, I know about instabul I don't remember If I tried it or not...
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03:14<deved>I am doing most of the work in the temrinal, so If I logged that... However I'm not sure about output from things like vi...
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03:48<lindeb>cuantos mexicanos están en este canal
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04:07<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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04:29<ayaka>does postgresql can node like mysql?
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04:30<rnowak>ayaka: can you rephrase?
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04:31<ayaka>postgresql sync?
04:31<petemc>have a look at slony
04:32<rnowak>if you mean replication, postgresql has some built in since a while, but slony may still be applicable
04:32<petemc>oh, im possibly slightly out of touch
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04:33<ayaka>i see,thank you
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05:10<nocturnal>forgot my password on a vps where I don't have out of band management =D time to "bruteforce" my memory. while ! passwd; do sleep 0.1; done
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05:46<hoshi411>dunno how off topic this is but out of curiosity, anyone know of a file manager that works good with touch devices that has touch scroll instead of scroll bar?
05:46<hoshi411>i love nautilus and dolphin are my two favorite but
05:46<hoshi411>im sure someone has a finger scroll based file manager somewhere in the works right?
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05:48<nocturnal>hoshi411: I don't have any such devices but wasn't Unity developed for touch screen devices?
05:49<hoshi411>nocturnal, sure but unity uses nautilus and that is mouse scroll fm not finger scroll
05:49<hoshi411>most of the wm features are touch friendly though
05:49<nocturnal>well in that case I'd say they have some work left
05:50<hoshi411>but more than touch friendly I have noticed that unity is .... TV remote friendly
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05:50<hoshi411>and after they came out with ubuntu TV ... everything kind of made sense
05:50<nocturnal>I see
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05:50<hoshi411>the desktop isn't even touch friendly or mouse friendly as much as it is tv remote friendly O_o
05:51<nocturnal>but one could argue that a tv remote friendly file manager should also be simplified like a touch screen friendly one. I'm thinking mainly of this roxcore media machine my brother has. it shows one directory at the time, scroll down and up
05:51<nocturnal>seems like that could easily be used by a touch screen
05:52<hoshi411>what's roxcore?
05:52<nocturnal>this cheap linux based media machine for your tv
05:52<hoshi411>wow... that is what I am looking for
05:52<hoshi411>I was looking into boxee box or roku but
05:52<hoshi411>i really want something that I can run an actual linux distro on
05:53<hoshi411>at the same time as get like netflix and hulu
05:53<nocturnal>its hardware is Afatech AF9015
05:53<nocturnal>and you can reinstall it with linux 2.6
05:53<nocturnal>at least that's what I'm reading from a swedish message board.
05:53<nocturnal>I don't own one myself and have no interest in it
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05:54<nocturnal>they sell them locally here for ~40 eur
05:54<hoshi411>wow that's cheap
05:54<nocturnal>my brother uses his to connect to his windows computer over smb and play any music, movies, media.
05:55<nocturnal>it came with a remote
05:55<nocturnal>hdmi, full HD 1080p, usb, sd-card reader.
05:56<nocturnal>68 Eur sorry
05:56<nocturnal>but everything is more expensive in sweden.
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06:18<skyride>i'm having a problem where apache is failing to start due to the port being in use
06:19<skyride>I've googled the issue and as i had originally suspected, it should be down to another program using the port
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06:20<skyride>but every command i've run to check (netstat/lsof/nmap) insists the port is neither in use nor is any program attempting to use it
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06:22<nsadmin>skyride, stop using the port before you start apache
06:23<nsadmin>problem solved...
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06:23<nsadmin>damn I'm good...
06:23<skyride>nothing is using it though
06:23<skyride>thats the dilemma
06:24<nsadmin>what port?
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06:27<nsadmin>and apache is not started now?
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06:28<nsadmin>ok, on the machine you're trying to start apache on...
06:28<skyride>infact the www-data user doesn't even have any processes running
06:28<nsadmin>telnet localhost 80
06:28<petemc>were you using lsof as root?
06:28<nsadmin>connected? connection refused?
06:29<skyride>2 yep petemc
06:29<skyride>and yes, connection refused pete
06:29<skyride>nsadmin, *
06:29<nsadmin>so the port's free
06:30<nsadmin>I wonder if starting apache tries to start two servers
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06:30<skyride>how would i check that nsadmin ?
06:31<themill>it's not complaining about :80 it's complaining about :443
06:31<nsadmin>how many dirs in sites-enabled/?
06:31<nsadmin>oh, so something else has taken the https port
06:32<skyride>lol i'm an idiot, i wasn't paying attention to that
06:32<skyride>i willi investigate
06:32<skyride>just presumed it was 80 instead of actually reading the error
06:33<skyride>still unusual though, i don't have any HTTPS sites running
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06:36<nsadmin>well... again, try telnet localhost 443
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06:36<skyride>ye its working
06:37<skyride>but again, lsof/netstat insist nothing is using the port
06:37<nsadmin>working? meaning you got connected by that telnet
06:37<skyride>telnet works
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06:38<nsadmin>ok, so themill's totally right, something has taken that port
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06:39<nsadmin>I forgot the command, but there is a way to list what ports are taken by what processes
06:39<nsadmin>then you look at ps aux | grep <thatProcess>
06:40<nsadmin>and see what the name is
06:40<themill>it might be useful to see the entire output from "netstat -plnt" (run as root)
06:41<skyride>so apparently it was "ajaxterm" using it
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06:41<skyride>killed that
06:41<nsadmin>skyride, so you found something... does it make sense to you that it should take the port?
06:41<skyride>still not loading up though
06:41<nsadmin>ok, start over, why?
06:41<skyride>honestly its a piece of software i forgot i even had instealled
06:41<nsadmin>this would be a whole new inquiry
06:42<skyride>thats weird
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06:42<skyride>apparently pptpd was using the port
06:43<nsadmin>what port that time?
06:43<skyride>apache is loaded now
06:43<skyride>after closing pptpd
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06:44<skyride>oh well
06:44<skyride>thanks a lot! :)
06:44<nsadmin>-very- often, web programming is mostly looking at the error log
06:44<nsadmin>over and
06:44<nsadmin>over and
06:45<nsadmin>over and
06:45<skyride>ye i didn't know about the -plnt params for netstat
06:45<skyride>that helped a lot
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06:47<nsadmin>skyride a good (but unnecessary) exercise you can do now, is man netstat and look up p l n t
06:48<Alexander1>I installted debian testing on a amd64 system with a Radeon X1850 Graphics Card and now I get tons of error messages "*ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid, remainder is 130"
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07:01<Alexander1>I changed the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" to "nomodeset" in /etc/default/grub but that didn't help
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07:08<simonlnu>Alexander1: try radeon.modeset=0
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07:10<loool>W: Duplicate sources.list entry squeeze/updates/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_squeeze_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages)
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07:10<loool>W: Duplicate sources.list entry squeeze-backports/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.debian.org_debian-backports_dists_squeeze-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages)
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07:11<loool>i have duplicate sources list when updating my squeeze
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07:11<loool>when i unpin many sources it works
07:11<loool>can anyone help me
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07:13<edo>ciao a tutti
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07:13<SamWeasley>hi everyone
07:13<SamWeasley>I'm installing a Debian Server in home
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07:14<SamWeasley>I want to share a EPSON Stylus CX4500 rpinter, but CUPS can't find it...
07:14<SamWeasley>It's a USB printer... Any suggestions?
07:14<SamWeasley>I tried some tutorials.
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07:15<SamWeasley>lsusb don't show it
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07:21<Alexander1>simonlnu: thanks, I'll try that later an report
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07:34<devil>SamWeasley: if lsusb dont show it, cups cant find it
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07:47<tangyabin2012>hello everyone!
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07:48<slam>SamWeasley: works fine with the gutenprint drivers. make sure your usb connection is direct and working, though.
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08:06<PTKDev>Bluez 4.98 segfault with bluetooth headphone beewi :(
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08:22<lordmonkey>how can I get the newest package version ? I try apt-get -t testing install php5-cgi but with no succes (still getting 5.3.3 intead of 5.3.10)
08:23<themill>lordmonkey: that is the latest version of the php5-cgi package.
08:23<themill>!security backports
08:23<dpkg>Debian incorporates security fixes into the version currently in <stable>. This is non-trivial so it may take a couple days. Backporting security fixes means that you can update the package without problems like changed behaviour that would come with updating to a new version of the software. The upstream version number doesn't change in the Debian package when this is done; check the changelog or the <tracker of doom>.
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08:45<Gh0sty>anyone can help debug problems with debian testing bind9, it wont start and my dnsmasq also wotn work
08:46<Gh0sty>just did a dist-upgrade and now my router is utterly broken (can at least do something by putting google dns in for now
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08:50<Black_Prince>just shoot
08:50<Black_Prince>for bind9 errors, check syslog.
08:50<Black_Prince>/var/log/syslog that is
08:52<CyberPax>I recall I had some issues on bind as well w/. testing and it turned out some ssl-related lib was missing on the system.
08:52<CyberPax>If that's the case it will be very obvious by the syslog
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08:54<Gh0sty>yup that seems to be the cas
08:54<Gh0sty>Feb 12 14:50:44 gateway named[5625]: initializing DST: openssl failure
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08:58<Gh0sty>not really dont have that set
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09:02<Gh0sty>yeah that works
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09:03<dutchfish>Gh0sty, is that lib installed and if so what version?
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09:06<dutchfish>Gh0sty, the latest P2 should deliver named.conf.options on fresh install.
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09:07<dutchfish>(see changelog)
09:07<Gh0sty>bind9 1:9.8.1.dfsg.P1-2
09:07<Gh0sty>openssl 1.0.0g-1
09:07<Gh0sty>i just created the subdirs in the chroot
09:07<Gh0sty>like it said on that link
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09:08<Gh0sty>and copied that 1 libgost
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09:09<Gh0sty>would there be any connection with dnsmasq?
09:09<Gh0sty>since that one also didnt seem to work at the time :/
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09:12<dutchfish>Gh0sty, mm.... only one i can think of are netbase and resolvconf, the lather is only a recommend for dnsmasq
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09:13<dutchfish>Gh0sty, there are still pending bugs in openssl however
09:13*dutchfish scratches head
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09:16<dutchfish>are you sure it is not #612748, because i had my fair share on that one
09:16<dutchfish>otherwise ask the package maintainers
09:17<Gh0sty>did an echo $openssl whatever
09:17<Gh0sty>and returns nothing
09:17<Gh0sty>and I just rebooted before also since the upgrade of bind9 was part of kernel upgrade also
09:18<dutchfish>i am afraid i am out of clues ...
09:18<Gh0sty>but ok the fix here fixed it:
09:18<dutchfish>Gh0sty, and that did out work well?
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09:32<kusanagi>hi i just read that the packages are supposed to show the conffiles with dpkg --status under conffiles
09:33<kusanagi>but i was not able to find a single package that shows its conf files with that :S
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09:33<kusanagi>is it outdated? is there another command?
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09:36<themill>kusanagi: works for me
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09:43<mkad>Hi, my microphone is not working in most of applications, I can't find any help on #pluseaudio
09:43<mkad>can someone help me?
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09:54<kusanagi>themill, could you tell me a package with conffiles?
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09:55<kusanagi>oh i see... so its only talking about global conf files in /etc
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09:56<themill>well, it's talking about conffiles which are a specific type of configuration file defined in debian policy
09:56<kusanagi>the one that shouldnt be overwritten on upgrade
09:57<daemonkeeper>To be differentiated from (regular) configuration files.
09:57<themill>Well, all local changes should be preserved on upgrades; conffiles is a way of asking dpkg to help. See §10.7 of policy
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10:00<kusanagi>boy, there is so much to read...
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10:00<Black_Prince>One reason why I never bothered to read it to the end :-|
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10:01<kusanagi>i think debian lacks something to drive newbies to read the faq...
10:02<kusanagi>maybe its so large it seems intimidating, nor i knew i had a package called debian-faq with the faq...
10:02<kusanagi>now i wish i would had read it some time ago
10:02<kusanagi>it would had saved me so much time
10:02<daemonkeeper>The policy is not really targeted to users. It won't hurt to read it, but it is not beneficial to know how policy-compliant packages need to look like
10:03<kusanagi>daemonkeeper, well, i will read it coz its insteresing for me... but i was talking about the faq
10:03<daemonkeeper>Mostly because the policy is a tedious normative document without examples or howtos.
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10:04<jhutchins>kusanagi: Most users are far more interested in immediate gratification than in learning the system.
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10:05<kusanagi>i mean for example i was trying to download the faq from the web to read offline... then looking for *-tutor or something like that in the packages i found i already had it to download
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10:06<kusanagi>u.U not sure what i mean, but it was finding this piece of fine jewellery was not intutitive at all for me x)
10:07<kusanagi>and ive been using debian for 3 years
10:07<kusanagi>learning the hard way
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10:07<daemonkeeper>kusanagi: Most reference documentation can be downloaded as regular package.
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10:08<kusanagi>yeah, i now know that, but for example there is no easy to way to find doc packages (for example all the packages ending in -debian-doc or something like that)
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10:09<kusanagi>the packaging tutorial is called packaging-tutorial...
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10:13<daemonkeeper>kusanagi: If you are interested in packaging, there are overviews. e.g. and
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10:15<kusanagi>yeah, thanks daemonkeeper
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10:27<jack_thompson>how do i stop tmpfs being used for /tmp in unstable?
10:27<jack_thompson>i can set the size of the ramdisk
10:27<jack_thompson>i can add a entry in fstab to prevent tmpfs being used
10:28<jack_thompson>but i can not disable it
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10:31<ansgar>jack_thompson: /etc/default/rcS
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10:31<jack_thompson>thank you :)
10:31<bony>I am trying to emulate qemu using kvm in my system but as few write ups say that to check the hardware virtualisation check the /proc/cpuinfo if we find vmx or svm in the cpu extensions the hardware virtualisation available to the system. I check mine and didn't find those two i have an intel core 2 duo 1.6 GHz processor. Does this mean that my cpu doesn't support hardware virtualisation?
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10:36<kusanagi>bony, check the web page of the processor
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10:36<sovereign>Hello I just installed Debian 6.0.4 now how do i update to compiz
10:36<kusanagi>bony, if they say you should have them, you probably have to activate them on the bios
10:37<coffee>first install grapic drivers thats one
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10:39<bony>kusanagi: ok so i need to check in the bios. I will also check the processor page
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10:40<kusanagi>bony, sometimes it comes deactivated on the bios by default... the only way to know for sure is to check the specs of the cpu
10:41<kusanagi>also, if you are able to find them on the bios... well, then, there you go
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10:42<semko>,versions freetype2-demos
10:42<judd>Package: freetype2-demos on i386 -- lenny: 2.3.7-2+lenny6; lenny-proposed-updates: 2.3.7-2+lenny8; lenny-security: 2.3.7-2+lenny8; squeeze: 2.4.2-2.1+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 2.4.2-2.1+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 2.4.4-1~bpo60+1; sid: 2.4.8-1; wheezy: 2.4.8-1
10:44<bony>kusanagi: I feel that this cpu has the extension. No guesses let me check and be back
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10:50<bony>kusanagi: the processor doesn't support VT in the other channel they suggested me to check the model number of the cpu in google. some like this T5470 intel-vt. Its so bad that my processor doesn't support VT
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10:56<kusanagi>bony well, its not, you just have to use emulation with qemu instead of virtualization with kvm
10:56<kusanagi>its just a little slower
10:56<kusanagi>and you cant use virtio devices (that are faster)
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11:31<snowrichard>i'm on debian squeeze on my beagle board. The netinstall took about 24 hrs
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11:53<s4br3>I have a directory with many subdirectories with tens of thousands of small files with a unique suffix, e.g. "*.csv". Now I want to copy them using the Konsole rather that Dolphin as that gets painfully slow to a predestined output directory. Unfortunately my attemps end up with copying directories too and not just the files. This is my latest attempt: "cp -r *.csv ../data/ ." Thanks for any help
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11:55<bimbim>hi guys! I can't launch abiword; lauching from tty gives:
11:55<bimbim>WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-bn4icU/pkcs11: No such file or directory
11:55<themill>s4br3: sounds like a job for find
11:56<bimbim>strace gives: --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
11:56<bimbim>and then --- SIGABRT (Aborted) @ 0 (0) ---
11:56<s4br3>themill: Thanks. will look it it up
11:57<themill>!using find
11:57<dpkg>using find is, like, or "man find"
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11:57<bimbim>abiword --version --> 2.9.2
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11:57<bimbim>is this a known bug?
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11:59<bimbim> << strace
11:59<nodiscc>hello people, anyone know some good resources about Glade ? I'm trying to put some UIs on a bunch of bash scripts i've written
11:59<ele>how do i use to make my debian fileserver?
11:59<nodiscc>any examples, tutorials would be welcome
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12:00<nodiscc>ele: want to serve files on your local network? or on the Internet?
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12:00<bimbim>ele: open ftp/sftp server
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12:01<ele>my localnetwork
12:01<bimbim>ftp would suffice
12:02<ele>with different permission
12:02<nodiscc>ele: yes ftp or smb would be good
12:02<dpkg>skadun: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a !
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12:03<ele>but smb it's not for windows?
12:03<bimbim>samba is harder to set up, harder to use
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12:03<nodiscc>bimbim: true.
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12:04<daemonkeeper>So what? FTP on the other hand is an ugly, obsolete protocol.
12:04<daemonkeeper>!ftp must die
12:04<dpkg>FTP MUST DIE! . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP:
12:04<bimbim>ah yes, http is great too; and a cool web-form for uplading
12:04<daemonkeeper>There is DAV.
12:04<dgjunior4>Brazil ?
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12:09<nodiscc>ele: my advice: sftp is the way to go, you just need an SSH server on your machine, plus it's secure (encrypted), supports public keys instead of password, and there are a lot of good clients available
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12:10<daemonkeeper>Alternatives include NFS or Samba for local networks, or iSCSI for local enterprise networks.
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12:12<Black_Prince>rlogin, telnet and ftp are programs of the future :P
12:12<daemonkeeper>+ gopher
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12:13<daemonkeeper>Well, in a line with rlogin and gopher, RDP is bleeding edge state of the art.
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12:16<ayaka>dies postgresql support ndb like mysql?
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12:16<Volley>Black_Prince: pff ... why use that when you can have netcat?
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12:17<Black_Prince>I was mentioning servers, not clients. </offtopic>
12:18<daemonkeeper>Black_Prince: nc -l
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12:31<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to boot a Debian installer ISO from the menu of the Ultimate Boot CD?
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12:34<ayaka>what is ul cd?
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12:35<EmleyMoor> - a very useful CD/ISO image
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12:37<ayaka>yes,use it for booting iso,but no test
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12:38<EmleyMoor>ayaka: I'm looking to combine my USB sticks into one... but not at all sure it can be done...
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12:40<s4br3>themill: Thanks for the pointer earlier. The script I used is: ''find /home/s4br3/source/ -name '*.csv' -exec cp {} /home/s4br3/data/ \;" which is working right now. A sneak peek into the target directory tells me it may work as intended. Thanks!
12:40<darkwise>EmleyMoor: do you want to create a bootable USB debian install iso or you want to a have UBCD itself with debian install cd ?
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12:41<darkwise>because with you can easely make a bootable usb debian install.
12:41<nodiscc>EmleyMoor: if i remember clearly, UBCD boots with grub, check out this list on how to boot various systems/ISOs with it:
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12:43<nodiscc>darkwise: if you want the Debian Installer only on a key, you can simply dd the image to the key
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12:45<EmleyMoor>nodiscc: It maybe can but by default uses syslinux
12:45<nodiscc>erf syslinux, I remember now
12:45<ayaka>you test in vm before do it
12:45<EmleyMoor>darkwise: I want UBCD on a stick with a Debian installer...
12:45<darkwise>nodiscc: thanks, I'll try it
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12:46<darkwise>ok EmleyMoor
12:46<EmleyMoor>ayaka: It's been tested and the way I did it fails to boot
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12:54<nodiscc>EmleyMoor: I think you should have your syslinux entry pointing at the installer's kernel and initrd. A bit like this:
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12:55<EmleyMoor>So, basically, I'd need to extract it, put it in place then configure? OK - will look into it
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12:59<nodiscc>EmleyMoor: the post is a bit outdated, but i would try this
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13:01<EmleyMoor>Is there a good way to extract an iso image as is to a folder?
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13:08<EmleyMoor>I am not sure this will achieve full use of the installer image...
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13:08<nodiscc>EmleyMoor: about any good archive manager will extract an iso
13:10<EmleyMoor>nodiscc: Found a good way now anyway
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13:18<EmleyMoor>Damn - symlinks not allowed on FAT - that will scupper things
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13:20<EmleyMoor>It might work for a CD/DVD... or an iso put straight to a stick...
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13:31<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... looks like no practical way forward exists
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13:32<nodiscc>EmleyMoor: some interesting info here:
13:33<nodiscc>about syslinux configuration to boot an ISO
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13:33<EmleyMoor>nodiscc: Not at all sure it helps me
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13:36<EmleyMoor>Looks like I'm stuck with three sticks for now
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14:28<sovereign>I'm having a problem with debian and the password
14:29<bobweaver>sovereign: it is not wolrking? it only works now and then ?
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14:31<fantom>How would I do this?
14:32<fantom>find / | grep bbg_devel | rm -rfv doesn't seem to do the trick
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14:33<bobweaver>fantom find <dir> <type>
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14:34<bobweaver>find ~/Downloads -name foo |grep bar --delete
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14:35<sovereign>bobweaver, in terminal the root password dosent work nor the userpassword
14:35<bobweaver>how do you dign in ?
14:35<bobweaver>sign ?
14:36<sovereign>it requires a user password to sign in
14:37<sovereign>when i installed it required two passwords
14:37<bobweaver>one for root and one for user correct
14:37<bobweaver>both are not working ?
14:37<bobweaver>only in termina l?
14:38<bobweaver>terminal *
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14:38<bobweaver>are you on that machine right now ?
14:38<sovereign>right both doesn't work
14:38<bobweaver>you have tryed to change passwd with command passwd ?
14:39<bobweaver>in terminal what happens when you run "su " ?
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14:40<sovereign>Ok that worked
14:41<Mike632T>hi - trying to move from lenny to squeeze (fresh install) but am having trouble connecting to a samba share from nautilus - if I try to connect to a server the only service type I see is custom location. Checked I've got libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra and gvfs installed but I'm still missing something...?
14:43<bobweaver>Mike632T: I am real new to debian but you have winbind running on start up ?
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14:44<sovereign>bobweaver, su makes me root but I get an error when i run a command
14:45<bobweaver>sovereign: what is the error and what is the command ?
14:45<sovereign>bobweaver, maybe i should have install pinguy
14:46<Mike632T>Having booted back into lenny to check here I did a search for vfs (dpkg -l|grep vfs) which turned up gvfs-backends so I'm going to reboot and see if that was missing...
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14:50<sovereign>E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
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14:51<bobweaver>sovereign: do you apt open or synaptic or software center ? if so close them
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14:53<sovereign>bobweaver, thanks that works synaptic was open
14:54<Mike632T>can confirm problem was fixed with 'apt-get install gvfs-backends --no-install-recommends'
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14:55<bobweaver>Mike632T: like I said I am new to debian but try this open termianl apt-get install sysv-rc-conf then run it and go to the bottom of the page is winbind there ?
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14:59<winsen>does anyone know wich SIP client is the best one?
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15:00<winsen>what do you suggest me?
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15:02<winsen>does anyone here?
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15:03<dpkg>Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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15:05<winsen>bobweaver: hi; I mean wich SIP client can suggest to me?
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15:06<winsen>I think it's clear
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15:07<bobweaver>I have only used ekigia
15:07<winsen>ok thank you for answer
15:08<PTKDev>Who use bluetooh handphones?
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15:08<PTKDev>I have segment fault with bluez!
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15:09<PTKDev>Is possible downgrade from 4.98 ---> 4.96?
15:09<PTKDev>or 4.93?
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15:19<dpkg>[downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
15:19<jhutchins_lt>,version bluez
15:19<judd>Package: bluez on i386 -- lenny-backports: 4.66-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.66-3; sid: 4.98-2; wheezy: 4.98-2
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15:32<EmleyMoor>I've got trouble getting reliable networking for VMs... I have one network card, with both public and private IPv4 addresses, and I want to add some tap* ports. I know how to do it at least in theory, but in practice I can't get it to continue working. Can I make a bridge with eth0:0 in it or must I use eth0?
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15:37<jhutchins>EmleyMoor: Remind the nice people what hypervisor you're using, and perhaps mention the hardware involved.
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15:38<EmleyMoor>jhutchins: qemu-kvm... this is an amd64 system
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15:39<EmleyMoor>This problem caused me to have no outside network after a reboot, so I had to cancel the bridge
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16:15<semko>anyone using wheezy?
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16:17<semko>what i'm wondering is that if you do a dist-upgrade to squeeze will you be automatically using gnome 3?
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16:28<winsen>looking for good SIP client, any suggestion you're welcome, thanks
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16:39<buntunub>semko: no. Squeeze is on GNOME2
16:40<buntunub>2.32 i think
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16:48<john>tsss NameServer ...
16:49<john>or something
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16:51<mid_>debian linux new here
16:52<mid_>plz how to download 32 bit deb distro?
16:54<musca>hi mid_
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16:54<dpkg>There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See for a list of images and ask me about <various cd1>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
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16:56<musca>!tell mid_ about install guide
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16:57<mid_>i read it sir
16:58<musca>mid_: good, just ask if you need help :)
16:59<mid_>iam indebted for you musca,thanks :)
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17:00<ergalvao>Greetings. I'm trying to install Squeeze, but I'm having two issues. First: It complains about missing firmware : iwlwifi-6000-n.ucode, being n from 1 to 4. I don't have this, is it possible to install it later on?
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17:03<ergalvao>Second and this is a critical one for obvious reasons: my wireless network's authentication is based on WPA/WPA2 PSK, but debian only asks for WEP, which makes impossible for me to have a working internet connection through the install process. Is there a workaround?
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17:05<musca>ergalvao: after enabling the non-free repo you can install a firmware package
17:06<gsimmons>ergalvao: Debian Installer does not support WPA at this time.
17:06<musca>!tell ergalvao about iwlwifi
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17:08<ergalvao>Well, I guess I could get the ethernet cable from my modem and put it into my notebook's socket, so that would fix the problem... Am I missing something or this would probably work?
17:08<ergalvao>and then use eth0 instead of wlan0 through the installation process, right?
17:09<lostson>using ethernet should not be an issue at all
17:09<musca>yes, but even some wired interfaces need firmware
17:09<ergalvao>yes, yes, I'm just making sure my line of thinking is correct
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17:40<freefall>can someone help me with nvidia problems
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17:41<musca>freefall: tell us more and ask questions, please
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17:43<freefall>i have an old nvidia fx5200 128 mb an i turn off novue (however u spell it) an use both the 96 an the 173 an it still not working right
17:43<freefall>x is doing ok but in ctrl-alt-f1 the screen grabled
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17:44<freefall>i was wondering is there a way to try a newer version with it like v280?
17:44<freefall>im using linux mint
17:44<freefall>the same problem happens with other distros
17:46<freefall>if i use novau the desktop is garbled an i get errors every 5 sec in the whatever it called when you ctrl-alt-f1
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17:50<freefall>hmm.. gotta take care of the kids.. bbl thx for answering musca
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18:00<winsen>impossible to install x-lite need help
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18:01<winsen>can you help me please?
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18:01<johnnyt>i don't know english anyway
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18:05<winsen>ok nobody in this house
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18:12<SynrG>winsen: you've given us zero information about your problem
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18:13<winsen>synrG: thanks for answer, tell me what do you need as information,
18:13<XayOn>Well, your actual problem would be a start.
18:13<Max>hey guys, I have a problem with my debian box with every bit torrent client. I can run any torrent client without problems BUT, when I start downloading a torrent, whatever is the torrent client, it suddenly closes and it keeps automatically closing (with a <1 sec interval) every time I run the client. What do you think it could be the problem? I supposed ClamAV was causing this kind of malfunction but after removing the package the problem remains.
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18:13<XayOn>winsen: ^ That is a good example
18:14<winsen>iam using debian squeeze, trying to install SIP client ,
18:14<winsen>x-lite ,on gui but it doesn't work,
18:14<XayOn>Max: Try stracing it
18:14<XayOn>apt-get install strace; strace <btclient>
18:15<Max>what does strace do?
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18:16<SynrG>!doesn't work
18:16<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>.
18:16<Max>XayOn oh I see
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18:17<winsen>xayOn: do you have any idea?
18:17<XayOn>winsen: read what dpkg just said.
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18:18<winsen>XayOn: i had no error message, so i don't know what can iI tell you
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18:19<SynrG>what evidence do you have that it failed, then?
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18:22<winsen>XayOn: I can just see x-lite icon but when I 've tried to configure it, I couldn't, so it seems badly installed
18:23<winsen>I tried again but had same result
18:23<SynrG>"I couldn't". could you be more specific?
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18:23*EmleyMoor has solved his bridge problem
18:24<winsen>SynrG: I just tried to install it on GUI under wine
18:25<winsen>SynrG: Is it clear now?
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18:26<winsen>SynrG: is possible to install it by command line?
18:26<SynrG>i don't know what x-lite is. i don't know what you tried to do when you say you "tried to configure it"
18:27<SynrG>i don't know what you mean by "I couldn't"
18:27<winsen>SynrG: ok, x-lite is SIP client
18:27<SynrG>a *windows* sip client?
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18:27<XayOn>this... again? What's up with people nowadays?
18:28<winsen>SynrG: normaly it works on both
18:28<nodiscc>dpkg, linphone?
18:28<dpkg>somebody said linphone was a SIP VOIP phone. To configure it to use, ask ibot about linphone config . not working with
18:29<EmleyMoor>Why do you particularly want X-Lite?
18:29<EmleyMoor>I use ekiga
18:30<Max>XayOn, thanks man, I've found the problem.. It was related with some libraries and I'll work on that.
18:30<winsen>EmleyMoor: for samething as ekiga but I don't know how to install Erika
18:30<XayOn>Max: Nice, give a look at ldd for that =)
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18:30<XayOn>winsen: what about apt-get install ekiga
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18:32<winsen>XayOn: I had no permission
18:32<XayOn>winsen: su; then enter root password; then do that
18:35<winsen>root@debian-sqeezeze:/home/am# aptitude install ekiga
18:35<winsen>Aucun paquet ne va être installé, mis à jour ou enlevé.
18:35<winsen>0 paquets mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
18:35<winsen>Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0 o d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 0 o seront utilisés.
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18:38<SynrG>again, in english instead
18:39<SynrG>or else please go torture #debian-fr instead
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18:39<winsen>SynrG: please, french people are sleeping
18:39<nsadmin>winsen, every one in the world?!
18:40<themill>or hiding
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18:40<winsen>SynrG:what's the problem ?
18:40<SynrG>winsen: i gave a choice. give us your system messages in english
18:40<SynrG>or else go seek support from a french support channel
18:40<nsadmin>winsen, put LANG=C at the start of your command lines
18:40<SynrG>is this so hard to understand?
18:41<nsadmin>if y0ou haven't already aptitude install pastebinit
18:42<nsadmin>then you can:
18:42<nsadmin>LANG=C (command goes here) | pastebinit
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18:43<winsen>nsadmin: can i change it?
18:45<nsadmin>either the package doesn't exist or the latest one available for your debian is already installed
18:45<winsen>nsadmin: thank you
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18:46<winsen>did you get it?
18:46<themill>that means it's already installed
18:46<SynrG>aptitude is being stupid here. apt-get install ekiga would tell you it's already at the newest version
18:46<SynrG>aptitude just leaves you scratching your head
18:47<winsen>ok, but why it doens't work
18:47<abrotman>why doesn't which part work ?
18:47<SynrG>ekiga "doesn't work"?
18:47<nsadmin>actually I'm runbning errands... xerox trackers, eat food, think about costco for grapes and cherries
18:47<SynrG>again, that's not a problem description
18:47<abrotman>nsadmin: wrong channel . no one gives a shit
18:47<SynrG>please, pretty please, learn to ask questions, winsen
18:47<winsen> I never installed EKiga
18:48<SynrG>so? obviously, something you installed depends on ekiga and therefore it is already on your system.
18:48<abrotman>winsen: dpkg -l ekiga .. is it 'ii' at the beginning of the line with a version in the 3rd column ?
18:48<winsen>Synch: ok, I will
18:48<SynrG>so, again, please explain what "doesn't work" means?
18:48<SynrG>getting information from you is like pulling teeth
18:48<SynrG>(but without the fun drugs)
18:49<nsadmin>abrotman, unless the file in the curr dir named "ekiga" is actually a debian package, that's going to fail
18:49<winsen>SynrG: It means I can not inbstall x-lite corretly
18:49<nsadmin>oh, -l
18:49<SynrG>winsen: ekiga is an *alternative* to x-lite
18:49<SynrG>something you should use INSTEAD OF x-lite
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18:49<SynrG>x-lite is not in debian. x-lite is not supported here. give it up.
18:50<winsen>ok, just tell me how can I install it? please
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18:51<winsen>I mean how can install Ekiga
18:51<abrotman>winsen: dpkg -l ekiga .. is it 'ii' at the beginning of the line with a version in the 3rd column ?
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18:54<winsen>SynrG: where is the problem, if I can not install Ekiga too? you said it is already installed but no Ekiga on my machine
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18:55<abrotman>winsen: dpkg -l ekiga .. is it 'ii' at the beginning of the line with a version in the 3rd column ?
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18:57<winsen>nsadmin: are you there?
18:58<EmleyMoor>winsen: Can you do dpkg -l ekiga and comment on the output, as abrotman suggested?
18:58<themill>winsen: please stop ignoring the people who are trying to help you.
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18:59<winsen>I am sorry, i didn't understand i thaught it was robot
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19:00<winsen>I am realy sorry
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19:01<winsen>here it is
19:01<EmleyMoor>OK - it is installed - what makes you think it is not?
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19:01<winsen>because when I looked up , I didnt find it
19:02<EmleyMoor>You "looked up" how?
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19:02<winsen>on graphical I mean
19:02<SynrG>i don't know what "on graphical" means to you
19:02<EmleyMoor>Er... once again, how? Explain what you did...
19:02<winsen>I never use this tool
19:03<abrotman>use what tool?!
19:03<abrotman>winsen: when you start it .. what happens/
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19:04<winsen>abrotman: sorry but I didn't find it
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19:05<winsen>how can I run it by command line?
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19:05<EmleyMoor>winsen: How are you trying to find it?
19:05<winsen>on graphical
19:05<EmleyMoor>The command line is "ekiga"
19:06<EmleyMoor>(and "on graphical" is not how, it's on what
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19:09<xae8koo>Is gparted broken in unstable?
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19:10<SynrG>first, see #debian-next for testing/unstable questions. second, learn to use
19:10<winsen>EmleyMoor: ok now I am trying to configure it
19:11*abrotman would reverse that order of places to check
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19:14<winsen>EmleyMoor: but why x-lite didn't work?
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19:20<winsen>I thank you I trying to configure Ekiga, I hope it will work
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19:39<chealer>xae8koo: did you check the BTS?
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19:41<abrotman>chealer: he's already gotten other help somewhere else .. you don't have to continue
19:42<chealer>!tell xae8koo about BTS
19:42<abrotman>or just continue like what you say matters .. yay
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19:47<ergalvao>So, installed debian, but I have tons of questions. The first would be how to enable the non-free repo so I can install the firmware to my wireless card
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19:49<abrotman>ergalvao: /msg dpkg non-free
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19:49<ergalvao>abrotman: thanks!
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19:57<ergalvao>abrotman: Do I need to do anything specific after installing the wireless firmware?
19:59<ergalvao>nevermind, got it
20:00<abrotman>oka ythen :)
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20:07<GTRsdk>How do I get Debian to mount a PSP memorystick (formatted as FAT)>
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20:08<daemonkeeper>Linux has no support for Memory Sticks.
20:10<winsen>unfortunly Ekiga doesn't work with my provider, the only way i have is to install x-lite or Twinkle ...nothink works ; till then
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20:11<winsen>Once again thank you
20:11<GTRsdk>daemonkeeper: It works perfectly on my other Debian computer
20:11<daemonkeeper>GTRsdk: Well, maybe another card reader then.
20:12<winsen>GTRsdk: hein! what are you using ?
20:12<GTRsdk>daemonkeeper: Same card reader (same PSP)
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20:12<daemonkeeper>Wait, you attach the PSP or the card?
20:12<GTRsdk>I get "Not Authorized" on the other computer
20:12<daemonkeeper>The PSP works.
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20:12<GTRsdk>daemonkeeper: the PSP has a built in card reader so I connect the PSP via USB
20:12<daemonkeeper>Yes, that works.
20:13<GTRsdk>maybe it was bad/different cables
20:13<daemonkeeper>That works as common USB mass storage.
20:13<winsen>Oh I thaught you're talking to me, sorry, good night bye
20:13<daemonkeeper>Given you have local privileges to do so.
20:13<daemonkeeper>I meant you were attaching the memory stick card only.
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20:15<GTRsdk>daemonkeeper: Okay same cable and same PSP and same memory stick... It works on one system, but not the other
20:15<daemonkeeper>Yes. That's supposed to work.
20:15<GTRsdk>Could the USB port versions (1.1 and 2.0) have an effect?
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20:16<daemonkeeper>Probably not.
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20:19<GTRsdk>Okay so then is there anything to be installed that would make it possible to mount the drive?
20:19<GTRsdk>daemonkeeper: What are the "local privelages
20:19<GTRsdk>" that I need to enable or have on the user account?
20:19<daemonkeeper>What's your error?
20:20<GTRsdk>"Not Authorized" window pops up when I connect it
20:22<daemonkeeper>Sounds like you didn't install policy kit.
20:22<daemonkeeper>(or you don't use gdm/kdm)
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20:23<iiu7>How do I solve this apt-get pain in the ...?
20:23<GTRsdk>daemonkeeper: I use xdm and LXDE on it. Should gdm be used instead?
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20:24<GTRsdk>The system is very old (only 500mHz processor, about 570 MB RAM)
20:24<iiu7>It must be a bug in the debian/rules file of libgl1-nvidia-alternatives.
20:24<daemonkeeper>GTRsdk: There is probably a way to set-up a policy-kit compliant behavior for xdm, too.
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20:26<iiu7>Never mind, fixed it.
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20:27<GTRsdk>I'm going to install gdm on it and hope it works. I use it on another computer, so I hope it works there too.
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20:39<ergalvao>Is there a graphical installer for .deb files such as the one that Ubuntu has?
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20:40<GTRsdk>ergalvao: such as like gdebi?
20:41<GTRsdk>ergalvao: Or do you want it to search the repos and download it from the repositories?
20:42<ergalvao>GTRsdk: ah exactly, couldn't remember the name: gdebi.
20:42<ergalvao>do I need to apt-get install it?
20:42<GTRsdk>That would be a good idea
20:43<ergalvao>lol yeah just got the answer from dpkg
20:43<ergalvao>sorry, I'm in my first hours of debian so I'm as noobish as it gets
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20:46<ergalvao>Another question solved, thanks, GTRsdk. Only 999 to go =)
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21:11<GTRsdk>Installed gdm3 and now it connects :)
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21:37<welder>where do i get cchild porn
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21:48<aussa>hi, I'm having trouble with virtualbox, I just installed it, I have debian wheezy, it tells me this:
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21:51<panko>aussa: message tells you what you have to do... install these two packages, then system will build vbox module for your kernel
21:52<aussa>i did
21:53<panko>and doesn't build vitualbox module for your kernel? :S
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21:54<aussa>when I installed virtualbox, I got this: Starting VirtualBox kernel modulesNo suitable module for running kernel found ... failed!
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21:55<panko>ajam... and virtualbox-ose-source is installed?
21:55<codemonkey13371>guys, I know this may be a bit off topic but I'm kind of despite. I'm taking a systems programming in unix class, and my homework was to create an MBRviewer program. I created one, and everything works, but some of the CHS addresses are off. I'm hoping you guys can run it against your own MBRs and 1) tell me if they are also off and 2)help me debug my program, if you are willing
21:56<panko>virtual box has to build a suitable module for your current kernel, if headers, or virtualbox source aren't installed, dkms can't build it...
21:58<aussa>panko, ok so I should install the sources and then reinstall virtualbox?
21:59<panko>mmm don't know, just install virtualbox-ose-source first...
21:59<panko>I can't see now, I'm using win nao
22:00<panko>I think then module are build
22:00<aussa>ok, I installed the sources... same error :S
22:00<panko>"automagically", you should see "building for onky kernel..." ups
22:00<panko>5 minutes
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22:02<panko>aussa: try, as root, modprobe vboxdrv
22:02<aussa>FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
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22:06<panko>aussa: module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose (as root)
22:06<panko>but dkms should have done this for you... I think
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22:13<aussa>panko, "Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use."
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22:14<panko>aussa: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
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22:16<aussa>E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.0.0-1-amd64 , should I install linux-headers- ?
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22:21<abrotman>aussa: your running kernel is out of date
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22:23<aussa>uname -r shows 3.0.0-1-amd64 and I have linux-headers-3.2.0-1-amd64 installed.... so why there's no 3.0.0-1-amd64 linux headers?
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22:30<chealer>aussa: because 3.0 is out of date
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22:32<abrotman>aussa: do you have linux-image-amd64 installed ?
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22:36<aussa>abrotman, linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 should I reinstall debian then?
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22:38<abrotman>aussa: read what i typed
22:39<sney>aussa: you probably just need to reboot
22:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 462] by debhelper
22:40<aussa>abrotman, I have linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 installed
22:40<abrotman> abrotman > aussa: do you have linux-image-amd64 installed ?
22:41<aussa>abrotman, ok no
22:41<abrotman>try installing that, then reboot into your new kernel
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22:43<aussa>abrotman, ok thank you
22:44<aussa>thank you panko
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23:58<scientes><scientes> I have a displaylink (mimo) usb monitor here
23:58<scientes><scientes> the kernel drivers autoload and i get a /dev/fb1 device
23:58<scientes><scientes> now how can i expand my display to use it?
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