| --- | Log | opened Mon Feb 27 00:00:20 2012 |
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| 00:28 | <dserban> | What can I do to trigger hal/whatever to mount a device that's already been connected via usb to mount under /media |
| 00:28 | <dserban> | ? |
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| 00:33 | <dserban> | No one knows? Is it umpossible? |
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| 00:47 | <scientes_> | dserban, check out udev |
| 00:47 | <scientes_> | HAL is long gone forever |
| 00:47 | <scientes_> | cause you can do that with udev |
| 00:48 | <dserban> | halevt was what was recommended to handle things like this... udev does the mounting now? |
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| 00:58 | <bones_was_here> | hi, where can i find copies of nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server from 6.0.3? the 6.0.4 nfs-kernel-server breaks our kerberized NFS setup... |
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| 01:02 | <bones_was_here> | also, this has been broken often enough (in Debian at least) that overall, it's more reliable to use samba :( |
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| 01:21 | <bones_was_here> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657802 i can't test it yet (waiting for people to go home) but how is this OK in a stable release? this seemingly minor update provided no indication whatsoever that the configuration needs to be changed, leaving end users to report this bug when suddenly no client can connect to their system anymore |
| 01:22 | <bones_was_here> | if it does simply need one extra line in krb5.conf, surely the install could add it, or at least give some hint it's needed |
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| 01:48 | * | unknown Dew! |
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| 01:51 | <simonlnu> | bones_was_here: a NEWS.Debian perhaps. add it to the bug report. |
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| 01:56 | <bones_was_here> | tried the fix in the bug report, does not work |
| 01:57 | <bones_was_here> | only thing that does right now, is using lenny's nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common |
| 01:57 | <bones_was_here> | except, that results in slow, unreliable NFS compared to 6.0.3's, which worked perfectly |
| 01:57 | <bones_was_here> | seriously, where can i get the 6.0.3 packages? we need working NFS!! |
| 01:58 | <bones_was_here> | with lenny's packages, os x clients can connect, but they randomly drop the connection for no apparent reason, and debian squeeze clients cannot mount the export at all |
| 01:59 | <scientes_> | hmmmm, i've never had any problems with nfs |
| 01:59 | <jm_> | what was the version in 6.0.3? |
| 01:59 | <scientes_> | it has always worked for me, but i've never set up kerebos even though i've wanted to |
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| 02:00 | <bones_was_here> | kerberos is the only way to secure NFS, so it's kind of mandatory for anything but getting movies from your pc to your tv at home... |
| 02:01 | <jm_> | possibly this then http://snapshot.debian.org/package/nfs-utils/1%3A1.2.2-4squeeze1/ |
| 02:01 | <bones_was_here> | it was 1:1.2.2-4 |
| 02:02 | <jm_> | so s/squeeze1// |
| 02:02 | <bones_was_here> | those look right, downloading... |
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| 02:03 | <jm_> | (looking in dpkg.log would reveal which version was upgraded to 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2) |
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| 02:13 | <bones_was_here> | jm_: yeah those are the right versions, thanks... it's still broken though, so i don't really have any clue how to fix it now |
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| 02:13 | <bones_was_here> | i'll try portmap instead of rpcbind, but it used to work fine with rpcbind |
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| 02:20 | <bones_was_here> | nope no luck, working again (mac only, dodgy) on lenny packages |
| 02:22 | <bones_was_here> | linux clients just hang, wheras with 6.0.4 packages (and now, 6.0.3... something from 6.0.4 is still around, but no idea what) they get the unspecified gss failure |
| 02:26 | <bones_was_here> | i'd drop nfs and just use samba for everything, except kerberized smb and smb file security are quite terrible on os x 10.5 |
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| 02:48 | <inphinity> | !rules |
| 02:48 | <dpkg> | 1) Don't ask to ask. Just state your problem, 2) Don't repeat until 10 mins after, 3) Read and re-read the docs first, then admit it if you REALLY don't understand. You're wasting your time and ours if you haven't at least tried. 4) If your problem ain't solved, come back in 12 hrs or 24 hrs later. We're very international. 5) Be polite and patient. 6) #debian supports only Debian (see <based on debian>) |
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| 03:15 | <zophy> | - how do i install kde as the default desktop on debian ? |
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| 03:18 | <streuner_> | zophy: /msg dpkg install kde |
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| 03:27 | <zophy> | streuner_, tnx i'll chx it out |
| 03:27 | <bfly> | hi, how do i check which packages i have installed from a given APT repository? |
| 03:27 | <jm_> | !which repo |
| 03:27 | <dpkg> | To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list> |
| 03:28 | <bfly> | thank you jm |
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| 03:29 | <jm_> | no worries |
| 03:30 | <bfly> | it would be nice to have this command available on every system |
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| 03:44 | <king> | hi |
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| 03:56 | <hoshi411> | http://packages.debian.org/search?arch=armel&keywords=nvidia-glx |
| 03:56 | <hoshi411> | this site claims that nvidia-glx package is available for armel debian squeeze |
| 03:57 | <hoshi411> | but when I do apt-get install nvidia-glx i get a no installation candidate error |
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| 03:57 | <hoshi411> | i just did apt-get update |
| 03:57 | <hoshi411> | still no go |
| 03:57 | <jm_> | it isn't available |
| 03:57 | <hoshi411> | jm_ but the website says it is O_o |
| 03:58 | <hoshi411> | is the website just old? |
| 03:58 | <jm_> | hoshi411: yes but look here at the bottom: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nvidia-glx |
| 03:58 | <hoshi411> | needs to be updated? |
| 03:59 | <hoshi411> | jm_ only for x86? |
| 03:59 | <hoshi411> | that's ok except the search tool tells me otherwise... : ( it's a little confusing |
| 03:59 | <jm_> | hoshi411: yes |
| 04:00 | <hoshi411> | that is also disheartening because what If i want to run glx on the raspberry pie |
| 04:00 | <hoshi411> | if this package is not available... |
| 04:00 | <hoshi411> | im pretty much out of luck |
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| 04:01 | <hoshi411> | unless i go to arch or something i guess huh |
| 04:02 | <jm_> | raspberry pi has some broadcom gpu, not nvidia |
| 04:02 | <hoshi411> | oh i thought it was arm |
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| 04:02 | <ansgar> | hoshi411: Because they have a secret agreement with NVidia that gives them non-free dirivers for arm? |
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| 04:05 | <hoshi411> | nvidia makes me so angry |
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| 04:17 | <lancelot_of> | hi guys |
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| 04:21 | <lancelot_of> | i've two residual annoying issues on my newly installed wheezy machine. 1) when i suspend to ram, on resume for some unknown reason hostname isn't resolved correctly. So mail clients or web browsers do not work correctly, as welll as network interfaces, indeed in terminals i don't see my hostname but a new one like 'computer' or 'host-001'. So i'm forced to /etc/init.d/hostname stop/start |
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| 04:22 | <tuxcrafter> | hi all |
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| 04:22 | <tuxcrafter> | i am looking for a simple cron activated tool that checks for diskspace and sent a mail to root when it gets low |
| 04:23 | <lancelot_of> | 2) again on resuming from suspend to ram i get in xscreensaver:"xscreensaver: not launching (hack). throttled" dunno what does it mean, it seems to be not tedious but it's quite annoying to see it, also because it's in yellow colour. Please help fixing these two problems |
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| 04:55 | <bfly> | how do i list files which do not belong to any package (and filter out those which are most likely legitimate, such as temporary / cached files) |
| 04:56 | <davide> | hi everyone |
| 04:56 | <jm_> | bfly: perhaps cruft package can be of some help |
| 04:58 | <bfly> | thanks again :) |
| 04:59 | <bfly> | i know about cruft, but i /think/ there was some other way. though cruft may be just what i'm looking for, so i'll try this first. |
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| 05:08 | <lancelot_of> | i've two residual annoying issues on my newly installed wheezy machine. 1) when i suspend to ram, on resume for some unknown reason hostname isn't resolved correctly. So mail clients or web browsers do not work correctly, as welll as network interfaces, indeed in terminals i don't see my hostname but a new one like 'computer' or 'host-001'. So i'm forced to /etc/init.d/hostname stop/start. 2) again on resuming from suspend to ram i get in |
| 05:08 | <lancelot_of> | xscreensaver:"xscreensaver: not launching (hack). throttled" dunno what does it mean, it seems to be not tedious but it's quite annoying to see it, also because it's in yellow colour. Please help fixing these two problems |
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| 05:20 | <lancelot_of> | i've two residual annoying issues on my newly installed wheezy machine. 1) when i suspend to ram, on resume for some unknown reason hostname isn't resolved correctly. So mail clients or web browsers do not work correctly, as welll as network interfaces, indeed in terminals i don't see my hostname but a new one like 'computer' or 'host-001'. So i'm forced to /etc/init.d/hostname stop/start. 2) again on resuming from suspend to ram i get in |
| 05:20 | <lancelot_of> | xscreensaver:"xscreensaver: not launching (hack). throttled" dunno what does it mean, it seems to be not tedious but it's quite annoying to see it, also because it's in yellow colour. Please help fixing these two problems |
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| 05:28 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: can you please pastebin your sources.list? |
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| 05:32 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, yes |
| 05:33 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, http://paste.debian.net/157758/ |
| 05:35 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: seems you you use pinning in apt-preferences |
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| 05:35 | <morph_> | .net |
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| 05:37 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, pinning?could you be clearer, please? |
| 05:37 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: i also use wheezy with gnome3 without need of unstable/experimental packages |
| 05:38 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, so what should i do? |
| 05:39 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: as i can see you have missing packages/depedencies |
| 05:40 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: i mean you have unstable/experimental in sources.list without pinning |
| 05:41 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, dunno what pinning is. anyway, apt-get -f install returns nothing |
| 05:41 | <gnugr> | you did not set priorities |
| 05:41 | <gnugr> | anyway |
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| 05:43 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: try "dpkg --configure -a" and then give "aptitude -f install" to get missing depedencies |
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| 05:44 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: also go at #debian-next for testing help |
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| 05:45 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, your suggestion implies the installation of packages i don't want on my system, like gnome 3 or openoffice.. |
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| 05:46 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: you have wheezy debs in sources.list but you don't want gnime3? |
| 05:46 | <gnugr> | gnome3* |
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| 05:47 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, no, i don't. i preferably use x nude sessions, with fluxbox wm or i3wm and at most i like kde, but surely not gnome |
| 05:48 | <gnugr> | oh you use kde? |
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| 05:48 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, as DE yes |
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| 05:49 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: sorry, i dunno much about kde, try to get help in #debian-next |
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| 05:51 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, it seems to me my issues do not relate to whichever DE i could use... |
| 05:52 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: ok, as i can see in your sources.list you run testing, isn't? |
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| 05:54 | <ping> | ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
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| 05:56 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: i mean you have mixed packages in sources.list and your system confused what to use |
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| 05:58 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, sorry i was away. yes i've testing system |
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| 05:59 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: yes you have testing but you did not add it as default in apt-preferencies |
| 05:59 | <lancelot_of> | bu i don't understand where are mixing packages. if you refer do marr mi.garr mirror, you know it contains multemedia packages such as acroread not contained in official repos, but th kernel, the libs are surely not mixed |
| 06:00 | <lancelot_of> | gnugr, ok so how to add it as default in apt-preferencies? |
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| 06:04 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: see this "http://paste.debian.net/157761/" |
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| 06:07 | <gnugr> | lancelot_of: with wheezy as default release you can use "apt-get dist-upgrade" even if you have pinning priority for unstable/experimental Pin: 990 |
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| 07:06 | <TaZeR> | team debian! |
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| 07:36 | <ayaka> | what is different between login shell and not login shell |
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| 07:39 | <jm_> | ayaka: man page for your shell will tell you - typically the differences are: command as shown in ps, which startup files are loaded, environment |
| 07:40 | <SynrG> | mhm. it's a bit complicated. bash man page "INVOCATION" section lists all the differences |
| 07:40 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you, can i read it on line？ |
| 07:40 | <SynrG> | 'man bash' does not work for you? |
| 07:40 | <jm_> | ayaka: man page? sure |
| 07:41 | <ayaka> | SynrG I failed in kernel, so i still use android |
| 07:42 | <ayaka> | if i create a manpage but i don't place it in path, can i read it? |
| 07:42 | <jm_> | i'd say you can't since you're asking us :D |
| 07:43 | <ayaka> | jm_ could you speak it in plain english |
| 07:43 | <jm_> | ayaka: ok this will be more understandable - don't ask yes/no questions unless you really mean it, 'man -l' will help you |
| 07:44 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you |
| 07:44 | <jm_> | ayaka: no worries |
| 07:44 | <ayaka> | but that kernel problem is offtopic |
| 07:46 | <ayaka> | can i speak it out |
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| 07:54 | <ayaka> | ok, i ask something in topic, http://linux.vbird.org/linux_server/0600cluster.php#othersetings_xwindow talk about follow the whole desktop not vnc , is it also work for debian(dont't read that chinese, only read code) |
| 07:55 | <ayaka> | SynrG, thank you |
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| 08:05 | <ayaka> | if that question no one know, ignore that, another can i use tar cf 1.tar / to backup system then format / to UBIFS, then use tar restore it |
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| 08:12 | <Sicelo> | last question .. yes, you can. it's 'dd' that wouldn't do, afaik |
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| 08:14 | <ayaka> | Sicelo, but the problem is android don't support mkfs.ubifs, i think would still use ext4 thank you |
| 08:15 | <Sicelo> | can it read ubifs though? |
| 08:15 | <ayaka> | then another question, why doesn't gparted resize cost so much time |
| 08:16 | <petemc> | and you complain about jm_ speaking plain english |
| 08:16 | <ayaka> | Sicelo i havn't trird |
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| 08:17 | <jm_> | I think he wanted me to use plain english |
| 08:17 | <petemc> | yes |
| 08:17 | <ayaka> | petemc why? |
| 08:17 | <petemc> | he should follow his own advice |
| 08:17 | <jm_> | ohh heh |
| 08:17 | <ayaka> | and how dare me to complain a master |
| 08:17 | <davide87> | hii |
| 08:18 | <BeTaMaX> | Hello everyone |
| 08:18 | <davide87> | the last kde for debian? |
| 08:18 | <ayaka> | hello |
| 08:18 | <BeTaMaX> | anyone could tell me which is the right channel to ask for help with java code? |
| 08:18 | <ayaka> | davide87 use sid repo |
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| 08:19 | <davide87> | where i found this? |
| 08:19 | <ayaka> | BeTaMaX mybe #java in freenode |
| 08:19 | <petemc> | BeTaMaX: possibly #java on freenode |
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| 08:19 | <BeTaMaX> | thank you so much |
| 08:20 | <jm_> | ,versions kde-window-manager |
| 08:20 | <judd> | Package: kde-window-manager on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; sid: 4:4.6.5-4; wheezy: 4:4.6.5-4; experimental: 4:4.7.4-1 |
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| 08:21 | <ayaka> | judd is a new bot? |
| 08:21 | <jm_> | it's additional bot, not that new |
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| 08:22 | <mariolb> | Hi |
| 08:22 | <ayaka> | jm_ ok i only know dpkg and another one used when dpkg was absent |
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| 08:24 | <mariolb> | I would like to know if someone have had troubles with deluser and userdel in wheezy. I can create users, but I could not remove them. |
| 08:24 | <ayaka> | mariolb could you tell me your cmd |
| 08:25 | <mariolb> | To cr |
| 08:25 | <mariolb> | oops! |
| 08:25 | <mariolb> | to create user: useradd teste |
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| 08:25 | <mariolb> | to remove it: userdel teste |
| 08:26 | <mariolb> | Then, I received the message: Segmentation fault |
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| 08:26 | <ayaka> | mariolb do you run it in chroot？ |
| 08:26 | <ayaka> | mariolb and do you do that in root |
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| 08:27 | <mariolb> | No. I'm root. |
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| 08:27 | <jm_> | mariolb: using BTS often makes sense -- http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660406 |
| 08:27 | <mariolb> | if i ran deluser, I get the follow messages: |
| 08:28 | <mariolb> | Removing user `teste' ... |
| 08:28 | <mariolb> | Warning: group `teste' has no more members. |
| 08:28 | <mariolb> | /usr/sbin/deluser: `/usr/sbin/userdel teste' exited from signal 11. Exiting. |
| 08:29 | <mariolb> | I saw the bug 660406, but I would to know if there are some workaround. |
| 08:29 | <ayaka> | mariolb have you fsck your disk? |
| 08:29 | <mariolb> | I thinking to use the Wheezy in a file server, running Samba plus OpenLDAP. |
| 08:30 | <lancelot_of> | three annoying issues on my newly installed wheezy machine. 1) when i suspend to ram, on resume for some unknown reason hostname isn't resolved correctly. So mail clients or web browsers do not work correctly, as welll as network interfaces, indeed in terminals i don't see my hostname but a new one like 'computer' or 'host-001'. So i'm forced to /etc/init.d/hostname stop/start. 2) again on resuming from suspend to ram i get in xscreensave |
| 08:30 | <lancelot_of> | r:"xscreensaver: not launching (hack). throttled" dunno what does it mean, it seems to be not tedious but it's quite annoying to see it, also because it's in yellow colour. 3) Sometimes on resume i get in dmesg: ' [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged'. i'm afraid of this kind of messages....what does it mean?what should i do?Please help. |
| 08:30 | <ayaka> | i get that when i break my sd |
| 08:31 | <mariolb> | Do you think I should use fsck? |
| 08:31 | <lancelot_of> | i'd just like to point out that i've not set apt_preferences as gnugr suggested me, yet |
| 08:31 | <ayaka> | mariolb i'm not sure, but try it |
| 08:32 | <mariolb> | Ok. Can I rebot the system and force the fsck on next boot, ok? |
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| 08:33 | <ayaka> | mariolb yes edit fstab or use a live cd, but maybe a bug as jm_ said |
| 08:34 | <jm_> | !forcefsck |
| 08:34 | <dpkg> | To instruct your system to execute <fsck> on the next boot: "touch /forcefsck". Useful for checking the root filesystem for errors (via /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh). Alternatively, supply the -F option to shutdown(8) to create the /forcefsck advisory file, or include "forcefsck" at the kernel command line (Squeeze). |
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| 08:35 | <ayaka> | jm_ if i create that file in other disk, it will also do that |
| 08:36 | <mariolb> | Ok. The serve is uop again, but the problem persists. |
| 08:36 | <jm_> | just wait for the bug to get fixed |
| 08:36 | <mariolb> | I can remove the user manually (passd, group, shadow and gshadow), but not by userdel and/or deluser. |
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| 08:38 | <mariolb> | I saw the after run userdel and/or deluser, the lock files group.lock, gshadow.lock, passwd.lock and shadow.lock are created in the /etc |
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| 08:38 | <jm_> | because the tool crashes before they get removed |
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| 08:39 | <mariolb> | Yes. I have removed them by hand. |
| 08:40 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 511] by debhelper |
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| 08:40 | <ayaka> | testing is still unstable, what worse, because armhf, what i installed in chroot is that |
| 08:42 | <mariolb> | I have installed the Wheezy in my notebook, and the problem is the same: I can create users, but I can't remove them. |
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| 08:45 | <lancelot_of> | googling the error message, i installed mcelog and got this log: http://paste.debian.net/157774/ please help me, i'm afraid i'm having sever issue on my machine |
| 08:45 | <mariolb> | Someone have another idea? |
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| 08:51 | <mariolb> | Can you tell me if the bug #660406 was solved? |
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| 08:53 | <d-snutz> | i cant get guest additions to work in mint12 deb. anyone know how? |
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| 08:56 | <ayaka> | but i don't understand some old file userdel and su,and useradd are still in changing？ |
| 08:57 | <babilen> | !tell d-snutz -about mint |
| 08:57 | <babilen> | !dbugs #660406 |
| 08:57 | <dpkg> | #660406:I[passwd] passwd: userdel segfaults (); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:57:02 UTC [] |
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| 08:58 | <babilen> | mariolb: Apparently not |
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| 08:59 | <ayaka> | is it possible to make somthing like opnid or oauth by pam？ |
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| 09:00 | <mariolb> | Thank you babilen. |
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| 09:04 | <mariolb> | ayaka: thank you for you support. |
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| 09:04 | <ayaka> | maroilb you're welcome |
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| 09:09 | <Firdaus> | how to remaster my debian ? |
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| 09:11 | <ayaka> | remaster？ |
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| 09:18 | <devil> | Firdaus: http://live.debian.net/ |
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| 09:55 | <gkaklas> | I use iceweasel and sometimes when i try to load specific sites it gives a "connection reset" error. This behavior is random as i didn't change any settings in about:config. It did that with youtube, dropbox and now facebook, each one in different time period. The problem is fixed by itself and it isn't a general network problem - chromium was able to load the websites. Just can't figure out what's the problem, any ideas? |
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| 10:00 | <LibyanGuy> | hi |
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| 10:01 | <lol123> | Hi |
| 10:02 | <LibyanGuy> | hi lol |
| 10:02 | <LibyanGuy> | sup |
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| 10:06 | <domsqrtneg1> | hi |
| 10:06 | <domsqrtneg1> | i was doing some research, preparing to install debian |
| 10:06 | <domsqrtneg1> | i ran into http://www.debian-hardened.org/ |
| 10:07 | <domsqrtneg1> | maybe you guys should take a look, i think it's been vandalized |
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| 10:10 | <ansgar> | domsqrtneg1: It's not a page maintained by the project. |
| 10:10 | <domsqrtneg1> | ok, i just thought someone should know :) |
| 10:11 | <domsqrtneg1> | thanks anyway ^^ |
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| 10:14 | <mvedelag> | server bugcamp.net |
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| 10:26 | <jurrit> | hi, short question: more people here having difficulties installing libc6-dev on squeeze? |
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| 10:27 | <gdb> | I've not had any issues with it. |
| 10:27 | <gdb> | ii libc6-dev 2.11.3-3 Embedded GNU C Library: Development Librarie <-- installed fine |
| 10:28 | <jurrit> | libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.11.3-2) but 2.11.3-3 is to be installed |
| 10:28 | <jurrit> | strange |
| 10:28 | <gdb> | libc6 2.11.3-3 -- this is what's on my system (squeeze). So the issue appears to be that libc6-dev in the repository you're pointing to is too old? |
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| 10:29 | <gdb> | Silly question, I'm sure, but did you remember to update before trying to install? |
| 10:29 | <jurrit> | yeah must be, but already tried ftp.de.debian.org and ftp.nl.debian.org |
| 10:29 | <gdb> | Hrm |
| 10:29 | <gdb> | My system points to ftp.us.debian.org -- I know that's not near you, but it's worth a shot, perhaps. |
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| 10:31 | <jurrit> | hmmz, didn't help, so must some other local problem |
| 10:31 | <jurrit> | must be |
| 10:31 | <jurrit> | thanks for checking |
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| 10:33 | <babilen> | !tell jurrit -about bat |
| 10:33 | <babilen> | ,versions libc6-dev |
| 10:33 | <judd> | Package: libc6-dev on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.3-2; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.11.3-3; squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; wheezy: 2.13-26; sid: 2.13-27 |
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| 10:34 | <babilen> | jurrit: As you can see ^^^ the candidate version in is s-p-u and s-u |
| 10:34 | <babilen> | ,depends libc6-dev --release squeeze-updates |
| 10:34 | <judd> | Package libc6-dev in squeeze-updates/i386 -- depends: libc6 (= 2.11.3-3), libc-dev-bin (= 2.11.3-3), linux-libc-dev. |
| 10:35 | <jurrit> | ah that is interesting, hadn't noticed |
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| 10:36 | <babilen> | jurrit: But please read the <bat> factoid dpkg just told you about and paste the information in question as that will ease supporting you tremendously. |
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| 10:37 | <jurrit> | Thanks, will do the next time. |
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| 10:39 | <jurrit> | but the headsup about -updates helped a lot |
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| 10:43 | <ayaka> | compiz is windows manger , gdm is session manger, what is gnome-session in debian？ |
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| 10:44 | <SynrG> | gdm is not a session manager, it is a login manager. |
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| 10:45 | <SynrG> | login managers manage logins. once you decide what kind of session you want for your login, it's up to the session scripts to set that up |
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| 10:45 | <SynrG> | the session scripts are going to be the same no matter whether you came in through gdm, kdm or whatever |
| 10:46 | <SynrG> | gnome-session is what's responsible for that when you start GNOME |
| 10:47 | <kop> | SynrG: FWIW, I'm not 100% sure that the session scripts are the same. I've had unresolved headaches getting gdm to run session scripts in my home dir. Of course that could be me. |
| 10:47 | <SynrG> | i'm not saying that gdm can't screw up the environment in a way that blows up your session |
| 10:47 | <ayaka> | SynrG without session manger i can see desktop, can i |
| 10:47 | <SynrG> | i'm just saying the separation of concerns is: "gdm manages logins", "gnome-session sets up your session" |
| 10:48 | <SynrG> | i've seen login managers do horrible things to sessions (mess up the PATH, etc.) |
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| 10:49 | <SynrG> | ayaka: without the session manager you have probably not started all of the background processes GNOME uses to delegate various tasks to: the management of settings, the communication between apps, etc. |
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| 10:49 | <ayaka> | is there another xx manger in X , tell in onetime |
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| 10:50 | <SynrG> | ayaka: please rephrase in a way i can understand |
| 10:51 | <someonelost> | hi all |
| 10:51 | <someonelost> | mb:asrock n68c-s ucc |
| 10:51 | <someonelost> | internal soundcard |
| 10:51 | <someonelost> | mic-in jack 3.5" |
| 10:51 | <someonelost> | plugged mic genius(worked on other mb) |
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| 10:52 | <saulo> | people, I'm with a chroot here using schroot, the chroot runs Apache (Debian Squeeze inside Lenny). The only way I have to start Apache is enter at chroot and start from there, if I exit the chroot, Apache stops too, and I can't start from boot. Somebody can help me? |
| 10:52 | <ayaka> | SynrG , i'm sorry, is there another things called manger in X, i want to solve this problems in this time |
| 10:52 | <someonelost> | hi all,someone can help with hardware problem? |
| 10:53 | <ayaka> | saulo it should have done that |
| 10:53 | <someonelost> | anyone sorry for eng |
| 10:54 | <ayaka> | someonelost could you tell me what the native lng is |
| 10:54 | <SynrG> | ayaka: still not sure what you're looking for. are you saying you want a list of all things called "manager"? that's a somewhat broad term. a search of package descriptions is going to give you a huge list ... |
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| 10:54 | <SynrG> | someonelost: why not follow the instructions given when you were kicked? |
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| 10:55 | <SynrG> | someonelost: that is, use http://paste.debian.net for the details of your problem |
| 10:55 | <saulo> | ayaka: I don't know what is happening. I tryed run the command inside, but strace told me the file is invalid (like I have 2 different architectures, but both are amd64). I really need run the command inside the chroot, |
| 10:55 | <ayaka> | SynrG maybe i should say the part of X like logins manger |
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| 10:56 | <SynrG> | ayaka: they seem to all have the debtags tag x11::display-manager |
| 10:57 | <SynrG> | so you can use debtags to search for them |
| 10:57 | <SynrG> | !tell ayaka about debtags |
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| 10:57 | <someonelost> | http://paste.debian.net/157803/ |
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| 10:57 | <ayaka> | saulo this problem i have heared a few days ago, only exist chroot, apache2 would'n stop |
| 10:58 | <SynrG> | someonelost: please pastebin the output of the command 'amixer' |
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| 10:58 | <saulo> | ayaka: Ah yes! I remember about this! Always I enter schroot I receive another session id, it's some configuration? |
| 10:58 | <SynrG> | someonelost: i would highly recommend against offering random strangers root on your box, no matter how trustworthy they seem :( |
| 10:58 | <ayaka> | SynrG so login manger ,session manger and windows manget are all display manger |
| 10:59 | <SynrG> | ayaka: no |
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| 10:59 | <SynrG> | ayaka: what i have called 'login manager' is probably more correctly described as 'display manager' |
| 11:00 | <SynrG> | ayaka: a 'session manager' is something entirely different. that is responsible for remembering settings for your session and setting things up again the same way next time you login (which background you use, what windows are opened to what positions, etc.) |
| 11:01 | <SynrG> | and a 'window manager' is something entirely different again |
| 11:01 | <ayaka> | SynrG login manger=displayer manger？what i want to know is whether there are another things called manger in X like win manage and session manger |
| 11:02 | <SynrG> | ayaka: 'network manager' (wicd, network-manager itself, etc.) |
| 11:02 | * | SynrG shrugs |
| 11:02 | <SynrG> | 'clipboard manager' |
| 11:02 | <ayaka> | SynrG x need manger network？ |
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| 11:03 | <babilen> | Certainly not |
| 11:03 | <SynrG> | no |
| 11:03 | <SynrG> | you can use ifupdown instead if you like |
| 11:03 | <ayaka> | SynrG is it a part of X? |
| 11:03 | <SynrG> | strictly speaking? X is very low level and gnome isn't even a part of X |
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| 11:04 | <SynrG> | so depends on what you mean by "a part of X" :) |
| 11:04 | <someonelost> | dbus is part of x maybe?:-) |
| 11:04 | <SynrG> | there is the freedesktop.org specification, but different projects pick and choose which parts of that to implement and how they are implemented |
| 11:04 | <SynrG> | aka 'xdg' |
| 11:05 | <ayaka> | SynrG seesion manger is not a part of X (i don't means it include in X code) |
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| 11:05 | <EmleyMoor> | When I'm running tvtime, and I drag another window over it, the TV picture gets a bit distorted - like a few lines where the top of the other window meets get dropped. I'm on the nouveau driver. Is this a known issue or have I got a fault? |
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| 11:07 | <EmleyMoor> | tvtime has also been implicated in a few Xorg crashes I've had recently... but my motherboard has had a new BIOS since then. |
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| 11:09 | <saulo> | There are some way to run a script when a user login at chroot? |
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| 11:09 | <ayaka> | saulo yes, but you have to write youself |
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| 11:10 | <saulo> | ayaka: Where I put this file/config? |
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| 11:11 | <ayaka> | saulo many places like ~/.profile |
| 11:11 | <themill> | saulo: you might like to look at schroot |
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| 11:12 | * | EmleyMoor is thinking of seeiing if the nvidia drivers will work now and if they improve the problem... |
| 11:12 | <saulo> | ayaka: I already changed the .bashrc file, but do not works when using "schroot -c squeeze". At schroot.conf I saw the option script-config, but it's not exactily what I want ( http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/schroot.conf.5.html ) |
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| 11:13 | <saulo> | ayaka: Nothing after use .profile too :( |
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| 11:14 | <ayaka> | saulo sorry i have no idea, there are many masters here, you can wait for answers |
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| 11:16 | <saulo> | ayaka: ok, thanks anyway :) |
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| 11:21 | <ayaka> | SynrG thank you |
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| 11:23 | <someonelost> | anyone can help with rare hardware issue? |
| 11:24 | <someonelost> | sound issue |
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| 11:24 | <someonelost> | or it's timex for old,lazy bastard:-) |
| 11:25 | <jhutchins_wk> | someonelost: We'll never know unless you give us the specific details of the issue. |
| 11:26 | <lancelot_of> | trying to install 3.2 kernel i get: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-1-amd64 (x86_64) what's going wrong??please help |
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| 11:27 | <SynrG> | someonelost: i tried to tell you that you should paste the output of 'amixer' in a pastebin. you privmsged me the output. that's not what i asked for |
| 11:27 | <SynrG> | someonelost: still waiting for you to follow the usual procedure for getting help here |
| 11:27 | <someonelost> | http://paste.debian.net/157804/ |
| 11:27 | <ayaka> | lancelot_of could you paste all output |
| 11:28 | <SynrG> | someonelost: that indicates you have something called 'input source'. have you tried just setting that to 'Mic'? |
| 11:29 | <lancelot_of> | ayaka, http://paste.debian.net/157808/ |
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| 11:31 | <ayaka> | all is well, but some modules should be compiled by dkms auto don't finish |
| 11:32 | <someonelost> | i've tried all variants of gui settings |
| 11:32 | <ayaka> | could you paste / var/lib/dkms/blcr/0.8.2/build/make.log |
| 11:32 | <someonelost> | no mic still |
| 11:32 | <someonelost> | but it worked in other mb |
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| 11:33 | <lancelot_of> | ayaka, http://paste.debian.net/157812/ |
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| 11:34 | <SynrG> | someonelost: most often, alsa recording problems relate to getting the mixer settings wrong. if you really have exhaustively tried all possible settings, it may be that your hardware is not supported by the version of alsa you use. |
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| 11:35 | <SynrG> | in that case, you might be able to get some help from #alsa @ irc.freenode.net |
| 11:35 | <ayaka> | It's the easyest problem i have every meet, all error written by english, it is blcr 's problem, can't recognize your ketnel version |
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| 11:36 | <someonelost> | have no time and wish to stay here aka old stump if you wish just give patch for further ppl incoming, i have another usb good working device ;-) bb |
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| 11:38 | <lancelot_of> | ayaka, so how to fix? |
| 11:39 | <ayaka> | someonelost good luck, in fact i don't know what your problem is |
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| 11:40 | <ayaka> | lancelot_of update blcr, but maybe debian's kernel version is too,speciall, it may not work |
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| 11:41 | <lancelot_of> | ayaka, blcr is just at the newest version |
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| 11:43 | <ayaka> | lancelost_of in debian? i have got something wrong kernel version not special not too nee for blcr |
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| 11:43 | <gruetzkopf> | i haave a problem: fresh debian install freeze at "GRUB " |
| 11:44 | <sney> | !fixmbr |
| 11:44 | <dpkg> | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 11:44 | <sney> | gruetzkopf: ^ |
| 11:44 | <lancelot_of> | ayaka, i really can't understand what you're saying |
| 11:45 | <gruetzkopf> | also, how to disable numpad mouse emulation |
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| 11:45 | <gruetzkopf> | my father managed to enable it by hitting random keys |
| 11:46 | <ayaka> | lancelot_of what is your version of blcr, i mean the kernel is too new to blcr |
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| 11:46 | <lancelot_of> | ayaka, dpkg -l blcr-dkms: 0.8.2-15 |
| 11:47 | <ayaka> | the lastest is 0.8.4 but not in debian , you should down it gor internet |
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| 11:51 | <slumdog> | here we go... |
| 11:51 | <slumdog> | hello all |
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| 11:58 | <slumdog> | anyone got some notes on setting up HTML rewrite in debian sites-available directory |
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| 12:01 | <EmleyMoor> | I just tried to switch from nouveau to nvidia drivers but could not get a picture. Is there anything I need to add or remove to make it work? I am using a significant amount of backports |
| 12:01 | <babilen> | !nvidia dkms |
| 12:01 | <dpkg> | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>. |
| 12:01 | <babilen> | EmleyMoor: Note that there are backports of recent nvidia drivers |
| 12:01 | <babilen> | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 12:01 | <judd> | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-backports/non-free: 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 295.20-1; wheezy/non-free: 295.20-1; experimental/non-free: 295.20-1+exp1 |
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| 12:02 | <gruetzkopf> | hmm, no change |
| 12:02 | <EmleyMoor> | It's compatibility with other backports that might be my problem |
| 12:02 | <gruetzkopf> | http://tenac.webhop.net/upload/uploads/157940HNI_0013.JPG |
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| 12:02 | <babilen> | EmleyMoor: I would be surprised if you can't use those with a backported kernels -- Any specific issues you run into? |
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| 12:03 | <EmleyMoor> | I'll try your suggestion and see what happens |
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| 12:04 | <kop> | slumdog: The only thing special about debian is some of where the config files go (sites-available etc.) Try http://httpd.apache.org/ and just follow the examples. (I think they have an extensive section on rewrite rules.) |
| 12:05 | <slumdog> | ok thanks kop |
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| 12:06 | <EmleyMoor> | Failed to build :-( |
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| 12:09 | <gruetzkopf> | http://tenac.webhop.net/upload/uploads/157940HNI_0013.JPG |
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| 12:10 | <zargheba> | salut |
| 12:10 | <EmleyMoor> | Failincg because it doesn't recognise my kernel (3.2.4) as "2.6.x or later" |
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| 12:13 | <EmleyMoor> | Looks like I'm stuck with nouveau for the moment |
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| 12:17 | <ayaka> | EmleyMoor do you try run way |
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| 12:18 | <ayaka> | so nvidia run file to do thst |
| 12:18 | <EmleyMoor> | I don't think that's supported |
| 12:19 | <ayaka> | EmleyMoor but it solve the problem |
| 12:20 | <ayaka> | just don't include dkms |
| 12:20 | <EmleyMoor> | It might... but it might also leave othet things in a mess that I might not want, if I decide the nvidia driver is no better |
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| 12:22 | <ayaka> | sukinishiroyou(do as you like) |
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| 12:23 | <EmleyMoor> | Quite honestly I prever nouveau, but want to prove whether the distortion on my TV card picture is down to it... |
| 12:24 | <EmleyMoor> | prefer |
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| 12:33 | <jhutchins_wk> | EmleyMoor: What about trying it with the stock 2.6.32 kernel? |
| 12:34 | <EmleyMoor> | jhutchins_wk: That breaks my sound card |
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| 12:34 | <jhutchins_wk> | EmleyMoor: Yes, but since the object is to test the video, so what? |
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| 12:35 | <EmleyMoor> | It's too much of a compromise at this time |
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| 12:50 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 502] by debhelper |
| 12:51 | <Nik05> | hey guys |
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| 12:52 | <Nik05> | I have the package beep installed on my server |
| 12:52 | <Nik05> | but the problem is that everyone can run it |
| 12:52 | <Nik05> | what is the best way to not allow everyone to use it |
| 12:53 | <Nik05> | the program is in /usr/bin/ |
| 12:53 | <Nik05> | and the owner is root:audio |
| 12:53 | <retrospectacus> | chmod o-x ? |
| 12:53 | <Nik05> | should i remove execute permissions for other users or should i move the programm to sbin? |
| 12:54 | <Nik05> | are you allowed to do chmod o-x in /usr/bin? |
| 12:54 | <retrospectacus> | who do you want to be able to beep? |
| 12:54 | <Nik05> | just some people with scripts |
| 12:54 | <EmleyMoor> | Nik05: Why would you not be? |
| 12:54 | <retrospectacus> | if you're root you're allowed to do anything ;) |
| 12:54 | <Nik05> | well im not sure what the "rules" are for /usr/bin |
| 12:54 | <EmleyMoor> | What "rules"? |
| 12:54 | <retrospectacus> | that's fine |
| 12:55 | <Nik05> | the "rules" that are generally accepted |
| 12:55 | <EmleyMoor> | Changing permissions so that only members of a certain group can execute something is fine |
| 12:55 | <Nik05> | like you put local compiled stuff in /usr/local/bin |
| 12:55 | <Nik05> | ok thanks |
| 12:55 | <retrospectacus> | rwxr-xr-- on root:audio is fine, then only members of audio can run it |
| 12:56 | <Nik05> | ok thanks |
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| 12:56 | <Nik05> | oh and how do i see all users that are in a group? |
| 12:56 | <Nik05> | cause with `group' you can only see the groups of a user |
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| 12:56 | <EmleyMoor> | members? |
| 12:56 | <jhutchins_wk> | The real question is why should some users not be able to run beep. |
| 12:56 | <Nik05> | cause its a server... |
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| 12:57 | <retrospectacus> | nobody can hear my servers beep ... |
| 12:57 | <Nik05> | here we can :P |
| 12:57 | <Nik05> | cause the server is in a room with people |
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| 12:58 | <retrospectacus> | # grep audio /etc/group |
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| 12:58 | <retrospectacus> | I dunno if there is a better way |
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| 12:58 | <EmleyMoor> | members audio, if you have members installed |
| 13:00 | <Nik05> | ok thanks |
| 13:00 | <retrospectacus> | # getent group audio |
| 13:00 | * | retrospectacus shrugs |
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| 13:03 | <retrospectacus> | Nik05: and if that output seems not ideal, there are no "rules" against making your own groups and changing the group of /usr/bin/beep |
| 13:03 | <Nik05> | ok |
| 13:03 | <Nik05> | members audio is good :) |
| 13:03 | <Nik05> | so i will do o-x :) |
| 13:03 | <retrospectacus> | although in general you may possibly break things doing that, probably not with "beep" thouhg |
| 13:04 | <Nik05> | oh another question |
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| 13:05 | <Nik05> | i have a group ""x"" but also a user with the same name |
| 13:05 | <Nik05> | i just did members audio |
| 13:05 | <Nik05> | and that ""x"" was in the list |
| 13:05 | <Nik05> | can that only be the user x or also the group x? |
| 13:06 | <EmleyMoor> | The user |
| 13:06 | <Nik05> | ok |
| 13:06 | <EmleyMoor> | Groups cannot be members of groups |
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| 13:08 | <steven> | facebook |
| 13:08 | <EmleyMoor> | What about it? |
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| 13:09 | <steven> | solo se español |
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| 13:10 | <sidney> | booting into recovery mode will restore a system? |
| 13:10 | <EmleyMoor> | !es |
| 13:10 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 13:10 | <steven> | thank |
| 13:11 | <retrospectacus> | sidney: no |
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| 13:12 | <retrospectacus> | sidney: if you are unable to boot in normal mode, recovery mode may help you to restore a system |
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| 13:12 | <sidney> | retrospectacus, could this cause a system not to boot apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig linux-headers-`uname-r` |
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| 13:13 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 13:13 | -!- | themill changed the topic of #debian to: security.d.o broken Packages file - should be fixed soon | squeeze (6.0.4) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | lenny EOL 2012-02-06 /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze ; /msg dpkg 5.0.9 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ |
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| 13:14 | <retrospectacus> | sidney: it could cause it to boot with a black screen |
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| 13:15 | <Nik05> | another question... is using beep the only way to use speaker? probably not... so how do i stop people from using other programs to use system speaker? |
| 13:15 | <sidney> | black screen with a blinking cursor |
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| 13:16 | <sidney> | better Question is there a Debian fork that lends itself more toward people that dont know terminal commands |
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| 13:16 | <retrospectacus> | Nik05: the audio group should do that - just remove those users from it |
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| 13:17 | <Nik05> | ah ok |
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| 13:17 | <Nik05> | but no one is in the audio group... |
| 13:17 | -!- | debian is now known as Guest4252 |
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| 13:17 | <Nik05> | but they can use beep... |
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| 13:17 | <Nik05> | so cant they make their own program and beep> |
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| 13:17 | <Nik05> | ? |
| 13:17 | <retrospectacus> | they should not be able if you did o-x |
| 13:17 | <Nik05> | ok |
| 13:18 | <retrospectacus> | after re-logging |
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| 13:20 | <gdb> | Are security updates broken for anyone else? I'm getting an error with apt-get update: http://paste.debian.net/157834/ (at the bottom). |
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| 13:21 | <zykotick9> | gdb: yes, channel top was just updated to reflect this |
| 13:21 | <gdb> | oh! |
| 13:21 | <gdb> | thanks! haha I missed that |
| 13:21 | <zykotick9> | s/top/topic/ |
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| 13:24 | <retrospectacus> | Nik05: to be clear and correct, the re-logging is necessary if you removed them from the audio group, not for the o-x |
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| 13:26 | <comissarcube> | Hi! I am having a bit of a problem on my Squeeze. When I press shutdown, the system starts turning off and then hangs in the black screen. I hear the computer working, keyboard backlights are on, the fan is working. And it just does not turn off. I browsed a few forums, but to no avail. Anyone got ideas? Would be greatly appreciated. |
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| 13:27 | <deft0nes> | i have a little problem with my sound. If i have vlc open and then open firefox and try to play somthing on youtube there's no sound. but the sound in vlc works. And if i do it the otherway around firefox works but vlc doesn't |
| 13:27 | <Nik05> | ah ok thanks retro |
| 13:28 | <Nik05> | no one is in audio ;) |
| 13:28 | <Nik05> | except admin group |
| 13:28 | <Nik05> | no admin user that has the same name as a group... |
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| 13:29 | <Nik05> | isnt it possible to add a group to a group so you dont have to add all the groups you want them in |
| 13:29 | <Nik05> | but just an admin group |
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| 13:36 | <retrospectacus> | deft0nes: see here http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup |
| 13:37 | <retrospectacus> | deft0nes: the ALSA Applications section |
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| 13:37 | <retrospectacus> | (your system and vlc use pulse but the browser uses alsa. You need to tell alsa to send to pulse) |
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| 13:41 | <wd40s> | I'm getting errors while trying to update/upgrade my system. Apt reports E: Encountered a section with no Package: header |
| 13:41 | <wd40s> | Does anyone have any experience with this? |
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| 13:41 | <wd40s> | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_squeeze_updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages |
| 13:42 | <wd40s> | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 13:42 | <retrospectacus> | wd40s: yes, this is a known problem and should be fixed soon. |
| 13:42 | <wd40s> | oh ok, thanks |
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| 13:43 | <retrospectacus> | You just have to wait. When apt-get update doesn't show any errors it's fixed |
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| 13:48 | <ballison> | Im trying to get apache to redirect to tomcat to serve up pages. My tomcat is running on port 8080. Currently I want to 1- redirect all connections to port 80 to port 443 and SSL (which I have working) and at the same time all requests should be served off the tomcat instance 8080. How do i do that? |
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| 13:48 | * | EmleyMoor has had another Xorg crash that he suspects is down to nouveau |
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| 13:55 | <deft0nes> | retrospectacus, it was working fine until i tried getting some usb headphones to work |
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| 14:00 | <tdrusk> | On debian stable I am getting these errors from synaptic.(http://pastebin.com/TFjrWpDX) I have tried rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/* and doing aptitude update but I still get the same error. Any clues on what is wrong or if it is even a problem on my end? |
| 14:01 | <retrospectacus> | tdrusk: security.d.o broken Packages file - should be fixed soon |
| 14:02 | <retrospectacus> | copied from the channel topic |
| 14:02 | <gdb> | tdrusk: Known issue and in the topic. I asked the same thing not long ago. ;-) |
| 14:03 | <tdrusk> | Great. Thanks :) |
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| 14:04 | <tdrusk> | retrospectacus: I'll make sure to read that next time. Thanks. |
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| 14:06 | <retrospectacus> | tdrusk: no problem :) |
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| 14:09 | <lancelot_of> | trying to install 3.2 kernel i get: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-1-amd64 (x86_64) what's going wrong??i also tried to upgrade blrc-dkms to the 8.4 version from unstable debian repos but i get always the same error.please help |
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| 14:10 | <examen> | probando |
| 14:11 | <retrospectacus> | examen: English only, here. |
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| 14:12 | <examen> | sorry, just trying |
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| 14:15 | <lancelot_of> | trying to install 3.2 kernel i get: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-1-amd64 (x86_64) what's going wrong??i also tried to upgrade blrc-dkms to the 8.4 version from unstable debian repos but i get always the same error.please help |
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| 14:21 | <eldoctorwho> | hola |
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| 14:39 | <gdb> | Looks like the security.d.o Packages file issue is fixed. At least it just worked correctly for me without error (apt-get update). |
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| 14:46 | <Nik05> | hey guys, do you know the name of the program that starts when a user executes a program or command that doesnt exist? |
| 14:47 | <Nik05> | i have seen on a server that it says: " The program 'x' is currently no installed. To run 'x' please ask your administrator to install the packages 'y'. |
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| 14:48 | <sney> | I used to know what that was called |
| 14:48 | <sney> | suggest something, maybe |
| 14:48 | <sney> | apt-suggestions? |
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| 14:49 | <gdb> | There's a package called command-not-found that I believe will do what you're looking for. |
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| 14:50 | <Nik05> | thanks |
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| 15:03 | <bluewolf> | hello guys ı use vim but when ı changed to file . ı take a [No write since last change] |
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| 15:04 | <bluewolf> | after than it's not saving |
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| 15:05 | <bluewolf> | :w :!w :wq :!wq etc ı tried to everything |
| 15:05 | <bluewolf> | too :q! |
| 15:05 | <retro|blah> | Check permissions. |
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| 15:06 | <bluewolf> | ı already use with su |
| 15:06 | <bluewolf> | do |
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| 15:08 | <bluewolf> | any help or person who has a think about this thread :) |
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| 15:09 | <retrospectacus> | bluewolf: well you're doing something wrong. If you're root :w! should save even a read-only file |
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| 15:09 | <retrospectacus> | and :q! will quit without saving |
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| 15:10 | <bluewolf> | ı know to :q!'means ;) |
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| 15:11 | <sney> | I've had problems with vim on weird keymaps, and your encoding looks a little off |
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| 15:12 | <omry> | anyone aware of some raid crazyness on debian systems today? |
| 15:12 | <omry> | I`m seeing strange shit from multiple servers |
| 15:12 | <Nik05> | like what? |
| 15:12 | <omry> | like stuck servers and stack traces in syslog related to io. |
| 15:12 | <Nik05> | nope |
| 15:12 | <omry> | on 4 different servers, real hardware |
| 15:12 | <DocHolliday> | anyone else seeing weird update errors? |
| 15:12 | <Nik05> | no |
| 15:13 | <retrospectacus> | bluewolf: :!w is not the same as :w! |
| 15:13 | <omry> | yes, see title |
| 15:13 | <retrospectacus> | DocHolliday: there was an issue with security but someone said it was fixed |
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| 15:13 | <DocHolliday> | http://pastebin.com/AFsgPtfd |
| 15:13 | <Nik05> | security.d.o broken Packages file |
| 15:13 | <DocHolliday> | retrospectacus, i'm still having it |
| 15:14 | <bluewolf> | ı understood . what am ı saying :) whay you are saying okay no problem there |
| 15:14 | <Nik05> | check topic |
| 15:14 | <ansgar> | DocHolliday: Umm, "universe"? |
| 15:14 | <retrospectacus> | universe? |
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| 15:14 | <DocHolliday> | yeah, what does one do? |
| 15:15 | <ansgar> | DocHolliday: What does your sources.list look like? |
| 15:15 | <retrospectacus> | DocHolliday: you should not have "universe" anywhere in your sources list |
| 15:15 | <DocHolliday> | 1 sec |
| 15:15 | <DocHolliday> | i don't have universe I don't think |
| 15:16 | <DocHolliday> | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free universe #Added by software-properties |
| 15:16 | <DocHolliday> | retrospectacus, ^ |
| 15:16 | <retrospectacus> | delete "universe" |
| 15:17 | <Hydroxide> | that sounds like a weird bug in software-properties |
| 15:17 | <DocHolliday> | hmm, alright |
| 15:17 | <Hydroxide> | if it's the debian version, at least. I imagine the ubuntu version might do that |
| 15:17 | <retrospectacus> | I'd also change "us" to some other country code, that is a slow server |
| 15:18 | <Hydroxide> | if you're in the US, it's probably better than a different country code :) |
| 15:18 | <Hydroxide> | or use a specific mirror that's fast for you |
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| 15:18 | <retrospectacus> | I'm in Canada but even ES or DE or FR are faster than US |
| 15:18 | <DocHolliday> | Do you mean delete the whole entry with "universe" or just the word? |
| 15:18 | <Hydroxide> | retrospectacus: ftp.us.d.o is a round-robin anyway. |
| 15:19 | <retrospectacus> | just the word |
| 15:19 | <Hydroxide> | DocHolliday: just the word |
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| 15:19 | <DocHolliday> | Still getting the error, unfortunately |
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| 15:19 | <Hydroxide> | retrospectacus: anyway, routing is kind of weird sometimes. from my office workstation I get routed to zany places on the way to various public sites. |
| 15:19 | <retrospectacus> | DocHolliday: are you sure? Check again |
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| 15:20 | <DocHolliday> | alright, one sec |
| 15:20 | <Hydroxide> | DocHolliday: you're trying apt-get update, right? not upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
| 15:20 | <DocHolliday> | yeah, update |
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| 15:20 | <Hydroxide> | k |
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| 15:22 | <Guest4266> | i entered commands into terminal that caused x not to load. How can I undo the commands from a live environment |
| 15:22 | <DocHolliday> | retrospectacus, Hydroxide : no luck |
| 15:23 | <retrospectacus> | DocHolliday: pastebin your sources.list and the apt-get update output |
| 15:23 | <retrospectacus> | Guest4266: what did you do? |
| 15:23 | <DocHolliday> | alright, one sec please |
| 15:23 | <bluewolf> | retrospectacus thanx for your help ı solved with your help :) |
| 15:23 | <retrospectacus> | bluewolf: great |
| 15:24 | <Guest4266> | I entered apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig linux-headers-`uname-r` and nvidia-xconfig |
| 15:24 | <secher> | Heyas all.. I'm trying to set up ocsinventory, both via .deb and build. I have been successful to a point. I get the initial configu screen to connect to mysql for DB creation, but after in put in the root pw, I get a blank screen. The ocs user IS created in mysql, but no DB is created. Any ideas what I'm doign wrong? |
| 15:24 | <retrospectacus> | Guest4266: I don't know how to fix that one. Someone else here might |
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| 15:25 | <secher> | initial congiguration screen is via web https://<IPADDY>/ocsreports |
| 15:25 | <retrospectacus> | secher: check apache logs |
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| 15:26 | <DocHolliday> | http://pastebin.com/HQAYuFy7 retrospectacus |
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| 15:26 | <retrospectacus> | DocHolliday: I told you to delete universe |
| 15:26 | <retrospectacus> | what happened? |
| 15:26 | <retrospectacus> | it's all over the place in there |
| 15:26 | <DocHolliday> | I put it back for the original error |
| 15:27 | <DocHolliday> | which instance of it should be removed? |
| 15:27 | <retrospectacus> | all |
| 15:27 | <DocHolliday> | Alright. |
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| 15:28 | <DocHolliday> | retrospectacus, thank you, that solved it :D |
| 15:28 | <DocHolliday> | what did I do though? |
| 15:29 | <DocHolliday> | how did I do that? |
| 15:29 | <retrospectacus> | debian doesn't have "universe" - I don't know what you did |
| 15:29 | <retrospectacus> | you tell me |
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| 15:30 | <DocHolliday> | I have no clue where that came from |
| 15:30 | <DocHolliday> | If I pastebin a shell script would you mind telling me what else it installed? |
| 15:30 | <retrospectacus> | I'll look at it |
| 15:31 | <DocHolliday> | alright, one more sec |
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| 15:32 | <DocHolliday> | retrospectacus, http://pastebin.com/5WZXXXUy |
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| 15:39 | <DocHolliday> | retrospectacus, did that install anything besides their/his multiboot thing? |
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| 15:43 | <retrospectacus> | probably. I wonder what lines 134 & 135 installed |
| 15:43 | <retrospectacus> | what made you decide to acquire/use this script? |
| 15:44 | <DocHolliday> | trying to make a usb key from in debian |
| 15:44 | <DocHolliday> | *inside |
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| 15:46 | <DocHolliday> | retrospectacus, this is the site: http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php? |
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| 15:48 | <retrospectacus> | well it probably didn't do too much damage if any... now that your sources.list is fixed you should be back on track. |
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| 15:49 | <DocHolliday> | well thank you very much for all your help, retrospectacus |
| 15:49 | <DocHolliday> | and Hydroxide |
| 15:49 | <retrospectacus> | sure thing. Have fun :) |
| 15:49 | <DocHolliday> | :D |
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| 15:50 | <elius> | #greece |
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| 15:51 | <retrospectacus> | !gr |
| 15:51 | <dpkg> | Gia voitheia sta ellinika dokimaste to #debian.gr & to #debian-el (irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net). For help in Greek try #debian.gr or #debian-el (irc.oftc.net or irc.freenode.net). |
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| 15:54 | <secher> | OCS reports error: I checked the logs, there are two errors, one about SOAP, but I'm not using SOAP, and one about the # being deprecated. Again, when running the initial config via HTTP, I get the screen requesting the DB login info, (the user OCS is created, I checked mySQL), but a white page. Anyone have ideas about what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 15:56 | <erdoktor> | hello |
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| 15:56 | <erdoktor> | ciao elkaptan |
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| 16:00 | <secher> | WOOT, I finally found an error: I added the php display_errors to index.php. At least I have something to google about. |
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| 16:05 | <jhutchins_wk> | secher: Deprecating # is pretty annoying. |
| 16:05 | <jhutchins_wk> | secher: I consider it a regression. |
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| 16:06 | <retrospectacus> | aren't php errors logged to apache2/error.log regardless of display_errors? |
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| 16:09 | <simonlnu> | no. it has to be configured ;) |
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| 16:10 | <simonlnu> | oh, mod_php probably, but even when i ran that i configured it otherwise |
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| 16:11 | <DocHolliday> | is gnome 2 in the debian repos? |
| 16:12 | <DocHolliday> | I wanna try xfce but may return to gnome 2 |
| 16:12 | <tdrusk> | DocHolliday: yes in stable |
| 16:12 | <DocHolliday> | alright, thanks :D |
| 16:12 | <DocHolliday> | and it |
| 16:12 | <DocHolliday> | s 2.6 |
| 16:12 | <DocHolliday> | ? |
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| 16:12 | <ballison> | i'm trying to get apache to FORWARD all my HTTP request to the local tomcat(jira) server running on port 8080 |
| 16:12 | <ballison> | the jira server is up and running and works on port 8080 |
| 16:13 | <retrospectacus> | DocHolliday: gnome is 2.30 or so in squeeze. |
| 16:13 | <DocHolliday> | oops. alright, thanks. :) |
| 16:13 | <ballison> | but when I try to use APACHE in front of it none of my request are getting forwarded to the local tomcat server. i'm getting the default apache start page instead. |
| 16:13 | <retrospectacus> | ballison: why not just turn off apache and put tomcat on port 80 |
| 16:14 | <ballison> | retro: because I'm using apache for my SSL layer |
| 16:14 | <retrospectacus> | turn off apache :80 |
| 16:14 | <ballison> | retro: I have 80 forward to port 433 for SSL, and the under that I want apache to redirect to port 8080. |
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| 16:14 | <ballison> | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vmc8J1bN |
| 16:14 | <ballison> | that's my httpd.conf |
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| 16:15 | <ballison> | i have a rewrite rule that forwards port 80 request to https:// |
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| 16:15 | <ballison> | then under the :443 virtual host I have my ProxyPass lines which are not working. :( |
| 16:15 | <retrospectacus> | ahmmm tricky - I'd ask #httpd on freenode about that one |
| 16:15 | <DocHolliday> | I don't have to uninstall gnome, do I? |
| 16:16 | <DocHolliday> | just change the xinit |
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| 16:16 | <retrospectacus> | DocHolliday: you don't have to uninstall gnome |
| 16:16 | <DocHolliday> | SWEET. thank you to everyone who helped me today |
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| 16:19 | <ballison> | retro: I can't write on httpd on freenode.. always get "can not write to channel" i'm sure it's some crazy registration thing. |
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| 16:19 | <retrospectacus> | yep you need to register your nick. /msg nickserv help |
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| 16:58 | <secher> | Wow, that was a pain. I had to enable ini_set('display_errors',E_ALL) and then set session.auto_start to 0 in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini. What a pain, but it worked. Whew. Thanks for the pointers, folks. |
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| 17:08 | <lancelot_of> | trying to install 3.2 kernel i get: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-1-amd64 (x86_64) what's going wrong??i also tried to upgrade blrc-dkms to the 8.4 version from unstable debian repos but i get always the same error.please help |
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| 17:21 | <ballison> | retro: it turned out to be SELinux... the most evil and vile of all man's creations. |
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| 17:23 | <retrospectacus> | hmm. shouldn't have turned that on then eh |
| 17:23 | <retrospectacus> | debian does not enable selinux by default |
| 17:23 | <lancelot_of> | no suggestion for me? |
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| 17:40 | <chealer> | !tell lancelot_of about bat |
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| 18:03 | <EmleyMoor> | After installing nvidia drivers, what do I need to do to get nouveau out of the way so that nvidia is used? |
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| 18:10 | <devil> | EmleyMoor: did you install nvidia-kernel-dkms? |
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| 18:23 | <ukukuk> | !de |
| 18:23 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 19:02 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 19:02 | -!- | themill changed the topic of #debian to: squeeze (6.0.4) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | lenny EOL 2012-02-06 /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze ; /msg dpkg 5.0.9 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ |
| 19:02 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 19:02 | <themill> | topicdiff: security.d.o all fixed |
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| 19:04 | <ansgar> | Magic auto-repair :) |
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| 19:22 | <bones_was_here> | hi, who can i talk to about the broken NFS in the 6.0.4 update? currently, it's necessary to use the NFS packages from lenny to have NFS working at all... |
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| 19:23 | <dondelelcaro> | bones_was_here: NFS works for me. what's the specific problem? |
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| 19:24 | <bones_was_here> | kerberos authentication became impossible after installing the 6.0.4 versions of nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server, but downgrading to 6.0.3 packages (which worked fine before) does not fix it |
| 19:25 | <bones_was_here> | downgrading to the lenny packages partially fixes it (as in, at least some workstations can actually log in) |
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| 19:25 | <dondelelcaro> | uh... are we talking about NFS or kerberos here? |
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| 19:26 | <bones_was_here> | kerberized nfs |
| 19:26 | <bones_was_here> | nfs doesn't have authentication without kerberos |
| 19:27 | <bones_was_here> | this seems relevant, but does not help http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657802 |
| 19:27 | <dondelelcaro> | bones_was_here: it may be #648155 |
| 19:29 | <bones_was_here> | this happens regardless of whether the user has a valid ticket |
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| 19:29 | <bones_was_here> | on squeeze clients, the export could normally be mounted using the krb5.keytab, before any user has a ticket, but that is broken now too |
| 19:32 | <bones_was_here> | with the lenny packages, squeeze clients just hang when they try to mount, but os x clients work |
| 19:32 | <dondelelcaro> | hrm... not really familiar with that, since I secure NFS in other ways. |
| 19:33 | <bones_was_here> | well it isn't the first time it's been broken in a "stable" release update, but previously it was fixable by rolling back packages |
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| 19:33 | <bones_was_here> | now it seems the update modifies something that doesn't get changed back when downgrading the packages, but i have no idea what |
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| 19:34 | <dondelelcaro> | probably a configuration file |
| 19:35 | <bones_was_here> | i redid /etc/default/nfs-common and /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server, no difference |
| 19:35 | <dondelelcaro> | it's unfortunately one of the areas which doesn't get enough testing, since only a few people run large kerberos sites, and almost no one tests them |
| 19:35 | <bones_was_here> | yes, i'm aware of that... |
| 19:36 | <dondelelcaro> | hrm.... and not /etc/krb5.conf or any of the other configuration files? run a find to see what was changed? |
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| 19:37 | <bones_was_here> | krb5.conf didn't change |
| 19:37 | <bones_was_here> | i don't see why it's acceptable for updates to just be pushed into stable without being tested |
| 19:38 | <dondelelcaro> | bones_was_here: they do get tested, but not on every possible configuration |
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| 19:38 | <bones_was_here> | i don't see how i could have a simpler kerberized NFS setup than i do |
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| 19:40 | <dondelelcaro> | well, considering that it appears to work for other people using kerberized NFS, then there's something going on |
| 19:40 | <dondelelcaro> | when you have the 6.0.4 packages installed, do you get any error messages on the server? |
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| 19:40 | <bones_was_here> | the server logs no errors at all |
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| 19:41 | <bones_was_here> | the os x clients fail to authenticate, the debian clients fail to mount the export with an unspecified GSS failure |
| 19:42 | <bones_was_here> | all i can think of is that simply starting the 6.0.4 kernel server somehow breaks something in-kernel and requires a reboot to work again (i have not been able to reboot the machine) |
| 19:42 | <dondelelcaro> | could be |
| 19:42 | <dondelelcaro> | why not try it on a test rig? |
| 19:43 | <bones_was_here> | i could build a test environment at home and try to figure it out, but it would be easier to just quit and try to get a non-computer job |
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| 19:44 | <bones_was_here> | none of the machines i have access to here have enough memory to run a vm, and there are no spare machines |
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| 19:46 | <dondelelcaro> | yick |
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| 19:50 | <Golfgeo> | Hi all |
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| 19:51 | <Golfgeo> | does "apt-get dist-upgrade -d" only download the upgradable packages? |
| 19:52 | <Golfgeo> | Have a machine that I need to dist-upgrade, but can't do that while my internet connection is running... brrr |
| 19:52 | <Golfgeo> | So need to download the packages and then close the connection before I truely upgrade... |
| 19:52 | <retrospectacus> | why? |
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| 19:53 | <Golfgeo> | Virtualized router running ontop of my physical machine.. |
| 19:54 | <Golfgeo> | So atm I need to upgrade my virtualization software whahaa |
| 19:54 | <Golfgeo> | oh ho |
| 19:54 | <Golfgeo> | *oh oh |
| 19:54 | <Golfgeo> | But.. does the -d switch truely switch to the download mode? |
| 19:55 | <retrospectacus> | that's what the man page says |
| 19:55 | <Golfgeo> | well, for dist-upgrade... eh ;) |
| 19:55 | <Golfgeo> | Let us try then... |
| 19:55 | * | Golfgeo is going into virtualized mind-state... |
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| 19:59 | <Golfgeo> | Yep, we believe it worked :-D |
| 19:59 | <Golfgeo> | Thanks from all us virtual machines ;-D |
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| 20:34 | <gogo40> | hi |
| 20:34 | <gogo40> | what's up? |
| 20:34 | <sney> | this is a computer support channel, if you want to chat try #moocows |
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| 23:03 | <rattatoue> | Needed a little help. the kernel im running I cant seem to install the linux-headers for it. Keeps saying it cant find them |
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| 23:06 | <sney> | !bat |
| 23:06 | <dpkg> | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 23:09 | <rattatoue> | "Unable to find any package by regex 'linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64' |
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| 23:11 | <rattatoue> | Thats best I can do since I cant copy or paste from this terminal. I had to do a minimal install and manually install the packages. So I cant find the actual good terminal. |
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| 23:11 | <sney> | ,versions linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 23:12 | <judd> | Package: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze-updates: 2.6.32-39; squeeze-security: 2.6.32-39squeeze1; squeeze: 2.6.32-41 |
| 23:12 | <sney> | rattatoue: my guess is a bad sources.list, probably with no internet sources |
| 23:12 | <rattatoue> | sney, I had to manually add sources, since the messed up install. Idk where to find the actual original sources.list |
| 23:12 | <sney> | !squeeze sources.list |
| 23:12 | <dpkg> | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 23:13 | <sney> | if you add the two suggested there, and run aptitude update, you'll be good to go |
| 23:17 | <rattatoue> | !sid |
| 23:17 | <dpkg> | The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 23:31 | <ayaka> | when I clone a git, I only get a .git file, how to make src out? |
| 23:31 | <nevyn> | is the git empty? |
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| 23:35 | <pyrokamileon> | hi I tried setting my monitor to rotate in the display settings and my monitor blanked out and now I can't get it back, can someone please help me? |
| 23:36 | <ayaka> | nevyn: no, I don't think so |
| 23:36 | <nevyn> | ayaka: what does git branch say? |
| 23:36 | <nevyn> | ayaka (you need to run that in the directory that contains .git |
| 23:37 | <ayaka> | nevyn: master and origin/linux-msm-2.6.35 |
| 23:37 | <nevyn> | git checkout master |
| 23:38 | <pyrokamileon> | I already tried logging into recovery mode and reconfiguring xserver but that didn't help, neither did uninstalling and reinstalling it.. |
| 23:38 | <pyrokamileon> | I guess what I need is to figure out where my settings are kept and rm the file maybe? |
| 23:39 | <sney> | if you're using gnome it'll be in ~/.gnome/ somewhere |
| 23:39 | <pyrokamileon> | I think I'm using xfce |
| 23:39 | <nevyn> | ayaka: did that work? |
| 23:39 | <ayaka> | nevyn: thank you |
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| 23:39 | <nevyn> | if not you can checkout origin/linux-msm-2.6.35 |
| 23:40 | <ayaka> | nevyn: but it don't output src |
| 23:40 | <sney> | pyrokamileon: hmm, I didn't think xfce had a display settings dialog that could do that |
| 23:40 | <nevyn> | ayaka: is the repo you cloned public? |
| 23:41 | <ayaka> | nevyn: no, I should use repo to do that? |
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| 23:41 | <pyrokamileon> | I'm pretty sure I am using xfce but I checked my hidden files and found a gnome2 folder, maybe I have enough gnome stuff that it might control the display? |
| 23:41 | <nevyn> | ayaka: explain from the start for me. what you ran. |
| 23:42 | <ayaka> | nevyn: what (you need to run that in the directory that contains .git means? |
| 23:42 | <nevyn> | ayaka: how did you get a .git directory? |
| 23:42 | <ayaka> | nevyn: git clone |
| 23:42 | <pyrokamileon> | not much in gnome2 dir just accels and keyring.. |
| 23:44 | <nevyn> | ayaka: right from some public repo? or from a private repo? |
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| 23:45 | <ayaka> | nevyn: public, google result |
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| 23:45 | <nevyn> | ah can you please give me the url? |
| 23:45 | <nevyn> | I want to know if the public repo is just broken. |
| 23:46 | <nevyn> | which I can do by cloning it. |
| 23:47 | <ayaka> | nevyn: another src in https://www.codeaurora.org/index.php 's linux kernel can checkout ,but officer one can't |
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| 23:47 | <nevyn> | ayaka: EPARSEFAIL |
| 23:47 | <ayaka> | and can I check out src to another path |
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| 23:48 | <pyrokamileon> | how would I figure out what manages my display? or where its settings are? |
| 23:48 | <pyrokamileon> | I'm ready to just copy all the hidden folders to a separate location and reboot, it seems a lot less drastic than reinstalling.. |
| 23:49 | <sney> | pyrokamileon: do you have an xorg.conf? |
| 23:49 | <nevyn> | ayaka: what's the exact git clone command you ran? |
| 23:49 | <pyrokamileon> | no I don't I even ran the reconfigure command which is supposed to create one but it didn't |
| 23:50 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: which version of debian? |
| 23:50 | <jello> | nowadays you usually don't need an xorg.conf |
| 23:50 | <pyrokamileon> | I believe squeeze |
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| 23:50 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:51 | <pyrokamileon> | 6.0.3 |
| 23:51 | <jello> | squeeze |
| 23:51 | <sney> | jello: aye, I was going to tell him that if he had one he should remove it |
| 23:51 | <sney> | pyrokamileon: any 3rd party video drivers? |
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| 23:51 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: what is the problem you're trying to solve? |
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| 23:52 | <pyrokamileon> | right now when I boot into the normal desktop I get a blank screen, I can't even go to a different um.. virtual desktop? I read somewhere that that meant that I needed to reinstall xserver but that has now been done already :-( |
| 23:52 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: define blank screen? do you get a greeter? do you get a login prompt? |
| 23:52 | <pyrokamileon> | no new drivers, I was in display properties and I tried rotating my screen, the screen went blank and I waited a minute but it never came back |
| 23:53 | <ayaka> | nevyn: git checkout origin/msm-core and I want to check out it to another place |
| 23:53 | <nevyn> | ayaka: what's the exact git clone command you ran? |
| 23:53 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: what happens if you do c-a-f1 ? |
| 23:53 | <pyrokamileon> | I see everything load up the way it usually does but right when I'm about to get a desktop the display blanks out |
| 23:53 | <ayaka> | nevyn: I have say it work that cmd, and I want to do more, I want to check it out to another place |
| 23:54 | <pyrokamileon> | c-a-f1 doesn't change anything, display keeps sleeping |
| 23:54 | <nevyn> | ayaka: please give me the command you used to make the local repository. |
| 23:54 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: okay, boot into rescue mode and let's disable X from starting |
| 23:55 | <pyrokamileon> | I'm in recovery right now |
| 23:55 | <jello> | great |
| 23:55 | <jello> | so, X is not running now, correct? |
| 23:55 | <pyrokamileon> | nope |
| 23:55 | <jello> | verify by running `ps -ef | fgrep X` |
| 23:56 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: do you normally use gnome, kde, or something else? |
| 23:56 | <pyrokamileon> | nothing returned after that command |
| 23:56 | <pyrokamileon> | xfce |
| 23:56 | <jello> | good |
| 23:56 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: run `startxfce4` |
| 23:57 | <ayaka> | nevyn: git clone url |
| 23:57 | <pyrokamileon> | hmmm, that worked |
| 23:57 | <nevyn> | ayaka: what was the url? |
| 23:57 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: good! |
| 23:58 | <pyrokamileon> | how to make a jaw dropped emoticon, *just kidding* |
| 23:58 | <ayaka> | nevyn: I forget |
| 23:58 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: so there's no problem with X |
| 23:58 | <pyrokamileon> | Xfce power manager says HAL daemon isn't running |
| 23:58 | <nevyn> | type history|grep clone |
| 23:58 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: rescue mode probably didn't start it |
| 23:59 | <jello> | not a big deal |
| 23:59 | <pyrokamileon> | I figured I had a settings issue, wherever my settings are that say rotate screen needs to be rm'd! |
| 23:59 | <pyrokamileon> | ok |
| 23:59 | <nevyn> | in fact type git remote -vv and tell me the output |
| 23:59 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: `xrandr | pastebinit` |
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