| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 28 00:00:05 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Feb 28 2012 |
| 00:00 | <jello> | if you don't have pastebinit, pls install it |
| 00:00 | <pyrokamileon> | I don't have pastebinit |
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| 00:00 | <ayaka> | nevyn: thank you, but now , I want to know, it has different branches, I want to check out they into different place , how to |
| 00:01 | <nevyn> | you can't trivially. it's not how git works. |
| 00:01 | <pyrokamileon> | ok |
| 00:01 | <nevyn> | you can clone it again. or clone from your clone. |
| 00:01 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: let me know what URL it gives you |
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| 00:02 | <pyrokamileon> | this pc is using the network cable, hmmm. hold on a second |
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| 00:04 | <ayaka> | nevyn: I see, thank you |
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| 00:08 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: pls don't pm ppl |
| 00:09 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: also the url seems wrong |
| 00:10 | <pyrokamileon> | why don't pm people? |
| 00:11 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: #debian channel rules |
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| 00:11 | <pyrokamileon> | hmmm ok, I figured a url like that would be a good time to pm, I didn't realize there was a rule against it |
| 00:12 | <jello> | in any case, it didn't work... |
| 00:12 | <jello> | but, you may be able to just reboot and have it come up regularly now |
| 00:12 | <pyrokamileon> | I got the url wrong |
| 00:13 | <pyrokamileon> | it's actually http://pastebin.com/zKJUC856 |
| 00:13 | <jello> | yes, that works |
| 00:13 | <jello> | yep, and the output looks reasonable |
| 00:14 | <pyrokamileon> | any other ideas before I should reboot? |
| 00:15 | <pyrokamileon> | pastebinit is cool :-) |
| 00:15 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: give it a shot |
| 00:15 | <pyrokamileon> | ok |
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| 00:16 | <pyrokamileon> | thanks but it didn't work.. |
| 00:17 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: did you get an error? |
| 00:17 | <pyrokamileon> | just a blank screen |
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| 00:17 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: does c-a-f1 do anything? |
| 00:18 | <pyrokamileon> | if there was a boot up error how would i find it? |
| 00:18 | <pyrokamileon> | nothing |
| 00:18 | <jello> | is it on the network? can you ping it? |
| 00:18 | <pyrokamileon> | well, how would I know what to ping? |
| 00:20 | <jello> | i take it you're not using static IPs |
| 00:20 | <pyrokamileon> | no, sorry |
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| 00:20 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: are you running your own dhcp server? |
| 00:21 | <pyrokamileon> | not to mention I have a wireless adapter that always drops my connection, but yeah it should be connected at the moment |
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| 00:21 | <jello> | maybe your router can tell you |
| 00:21 | <pyrokamileon> | no, I don't believe so.. |
| 00:21 | <pyrokamileon> | but I can access my router :-) |
| 00:21 | <pyrokamileon> | hold on |
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| 00:21 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: mine has a function through the web interface to display a DHCP client list |
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| 00:26 | <pyrokamileon> | hmmm it doesn't appear to be connected.. |
| 00:28 | <izengabe> | I can see u pyrokami... u r conected |
| 00:29 | <jello> | pyrokamileon: well, then i can't help you there |
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| 00:29 | <jello> | what i would recommend is rebooting into rescue mode and checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old for errors |
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| 00:30 | <jello> | also check /var/log/syslog as something else may be freezing the machine before it evens tries to start X |
| 00:30 | <pyrokamileon> | ok thank you |
| 00:31 | <jello> | good luck |
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| 01:56 | <hoshi411> | how do you get scim running in debian kde? |
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| 01:56 | <hoshi411> | ibus lacks so many of the features of scim |
| 01:56 | <hoshi411> | scim works great in gnome but ... in kde ... something is wrong |
| 01:56 | <hoshi411> | i can't find that place where you set scim-bridge |
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| 02:39 | <virtualboy> | hiiiiii |
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| 02:42 | <Spox> | hi |
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| 02:45 | <virtualboy> | ia m ahmed feom egypt |
| 02:45 | <crunchbang> | yeah |
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| 02:46 | <virtualboy> | can you learn security |
| 02:47 | <virtualboy> | or any thing about this |
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| 03:04 | <lancelot_of> | hi there |
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| 03:05 | <lancelot_of> | trying to install 3.2 kernel i get: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-1-amd64 (x86_64) what's going wrong??i also tried to upgrade blrc-dkms to the 8.4 version from unstable debian repos but i get always the same error.please help |
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| 03:08 | <jm_> | what is blrc-dkms? |
| 03:08 | <jm_> | blcr-dkms I guess |
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| 03:10 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, yes, sorry |
| 03:11 | <Firdaus> | how to analysis network on debian ? |
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| 03:13 | <Thorgrin> | Firdaus: depends on your needs. basic connections can be viewed using tcpdump utility |
| 03:13 | <Thorgrin> | long term monitoring can be done using fprobe (or some alternative), nfdump and nfsen |
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| 03:14 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: check blcr web page if they support 3.x kernels at all |
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| 03:14 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, the same happens with 2.6.39 |
| 03:15 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, anyway is this backage necessary in Debian system? |
| 03:15 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: yes their web page only mentions kernels up to .38 |
| 03:15 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: apparently it is for some people |
| 03:16 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, i checked also, yes until 2.6.38 |
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| 03:17 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, so in order to install 3.* kernel image without any error i should purge blcr |
| 03:17 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: probably yes |
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| 03:18 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, ok i'm going to try |
| 03:19 | <korencia> | Pls, some [script , program] for cleaning unnecessary, old, ... logs + confings (also from yet removed pckgs) |
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| 03:22 | <korencia> | I have too much of them and no idea how to make it as if fresh installed system (no logs -I do not need them at all, no unnecessary configs -I just need 5 and half of them for pckgs installed NOW, not dead configs of plenty apps I have installed, tried and removed) |
| 03:22 | <jm_> | korencia: purge the packages as opposed to removing them |
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| 03:23 | <korencia> | jm_ Thx. I 'll try. But -how about old old old logs? |
| 03:24 | <korencia> | I need that apps, but they have several GB of logs.. ! |
| 03:24 | <jm_> | korencia: tools like logrotate/savelog take care of that |
| 03:24 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, uninstalling blcr-dkms apt tells me dkms is no longer required, should i purge dkms too? |
| 03:24 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: that's up to you - it's easy to reinstall it if you need it in the future |
| 03:27 | <korencia> | jm_ Thx -I just have logrotate.. I 'll look around it andmaybe configure it. Once more: Thx!! |
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| 03:28 | <jm_> | korencia: yeah you can specify how many logs to keep etc. |
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| 03:37 | <mansynet> | hi |
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| 03:54 | <rougedragon11> | can anyone help |
| 03:54 | <jm_> | !ask |
| 03:54 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 03:56 | <rougedragon11> | i have a sound problem when phonon with kde is using it nothing else has access and it says device inst working im running aptosid with is basically a debain sid so only one program can play sound at a time |
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| 04:00 | <rougedragon11> | !ask |
| 04:00 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 04:00 | <jm_> | !aptosid |
| 04:00 | <dpkg> | aptosid (formerly sidux) is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid. It is not supported in #debian. http://aptosid.com/ #aptosid on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:00 | <jm_> | try that channelo |
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| 04:02 | <rougedragon11> | but its a basic sound problem |
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| 04:08 | <mekt> | Is it possible to specify to apt that when it installs it should automatically not replace altered configuration files? |
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| 04:15 | <maddoc> | Myon: Hi. Do you happen to know if the recent security patches will get applied to postgresql-9.1.2 in squeeze-backports (asking because I saw you made the latest release)? |
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| 04:17 | <jm_> | mekt: this is a dpkg feature, and yes, it has an option to control it |
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| 04:18 | <mekt> | Good, I had only found an automatic 'yes' feature. Not an automatic 'no' feature. |
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| 04:18 | <jm_> | confold/confnew are the ones |
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| 04:19 | <jm_> | one can pass this to dpkg via apt too, -o switch |
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| 04:20 | <ansgar> | That will also keep unaltered configuration files, won't it? |
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| 04:23 | <mekt> | ansgar: according to the manpage, it is only if the config file is modified. |
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| 04:23 | <mekt> | so it would replace the configuration file if it is unaltered and confold is specified. |
| 04:24 | <ansgar> | Right, my memories were wrong (not that I use these options often). |
| 04:25 | <jm_> | I don't read it that way, it looks like it only replaces/keps if they are modified |
| 04:25 | <jm_> | (so what ansgar said) |
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| 04:27 | <mekt> | I wrote a mistake that logically inverted the application of my statement. I meant 'altered', not 'unaltered'. |
| 04:28 | <jm_> | yeah |
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| 04:31 | <Myon> | maddoc: yes, once it has migrated to testing |
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| 04:40 | <maddoc> | Myon: Ok. So it'll be a minor upgrade to 9.1.3 then? |
| 04:41 | <Myon> | obviously |
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| 04:41 | <maddoc> | Ok, thanks. :-) |
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| 05:13 | <EmleyMoor> | I want to install the version of qemu-kvm in squeeze-backports but aptitude complains that qemu-system is kept back |
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| 05:15 | <jm_> | install both at the same time or try using aptitude |
| 05:15 | <EmleyMoor> | Right... |
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| 05:17 | <EmleyMoor> | qemu-system: Depends: vgabios (>= 0.6c-3) but 0.6c-3~bpo60+1 is to be installed. |
| 05:17 | <EmleyMoor> | That one strikes me as odd in the extreme |
| 05:17 | <jm_> | repeat the procedure ;) |
| 05:17 | <EmleyMoor> | That is a repeat the procedure |
| 05:17 | <jm_> | to be honest i don't see where a dependency on qemu-system is coming from |
| 05:17 | <jm_> | ahh qemu package ... |
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| 05:19 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: any further advice you can offer? This seems to be fraught with unresolvable dependencies |
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| 05:20 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: make sure it picks qemu-system from bpo too |
| 05:20 | <EmleyMoor> | Why does it object to vgabios? Can it not count? |
| 05:20 | <jm_> | ohh it does, the one in squeeze depends on a different version of vgabios |
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| 05:21 | <gnugr> | EmleyMoor: do you have kqemu modules installed, if not use m-a |
| 05:21 | * | EmleyMoor is not trying to use the ones in squeeze |
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| 05:21 | <EmleyMoor> | gnugr: I have no need for kqemu |
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| 05:22 | <EmleyMoor> | This seems to be unresolvable |
| 05:23 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: dpkg thinks that 0.6c-3~bpo60+1 is not >= 0.6c-3 |
| 05:23 | <themill> | EmleyMoor: in version strings, ~ sorts lower than everything; /msg dpkg compare versions. The only way around this might be to rebuild the packages with different dependencies (adding in a ~ would be sufficient) |
| 05:23 | <jm_> | yeah |
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| 05:23 | <EmleyMoor> | So ~ is less than nothing? |
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| 05:23 | <themill> | yes ;) |
| 05:24 | <themill> | specifically so you can just dist-upgrade from squeeze-backports to wheezy at some stage in the future |
| 05:25 | <jm_> | i'd just unpack it and modify control info for qemu-system |
| 05:25 | <jm_> | (granted, not an optimal solution if an update shows up) |
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| 05:27 | <themill> | Or grab a vgabios package that doesn't have the ~ in its version string and dpkg -i it. (it's an arch:all package of data files, I think, so it's one of those packages that actually rebuilding as a backport doesn't do anything to) |
| 05:27 | <bobweaver> | hello I was wondering how to take the icons of the desktop. I have tried right clicking them but got no where. thanks for your help |
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| 05:28 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... wheezy has 0.7a-2 - will try that |
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| 05:30 | <bobweaver> | Nevermind I found it under SystemTools|ConfigurationEditor|Apps|Nautilus|Desktop |
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| 06:44 | <BigSteve\Z> | hello ? |
| 06:44 | <joe_evans> | yoo |
| 06:45 | <BigSteve\Z> | mysql wont start up on my server |
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| 06:45 | <joe_evans> | go to the mysql channel |
| 06:45 | <BigSteve\Z> | theres noone there to help |
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| 06:47 | <joe_evans> | sorry - cant help |
| 06:48 | <weasel> | BigSteve\Z: you might want to try finding out *why* it doesn't start. |
| 06:48 | <BigSteve\Z> | :/etc/mysql$ ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
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| 06:52 | <BigSteve\Z> | ^ thats all Im getting >.< |
| 06:53 | <joe_evans> | @bigsteve ... you are on the wrong chanel here to get help |
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| 06:54 | <BigSteve\Z> | theres noone speaking in mysql or debian-mysql |
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| 06:54 | <OpenTokix> | BigSteve\Z: it might be the right channel. - Did you copy the database from another machine or is this a pristine database? |
| 06:55 | <BigSteve\Z> | New |
| 06:55 | <BigSteve\Z> | I only got the box 2 weeks ago |
| 06:55 | <BigSteve\Z> | installed mysql on friday |
| 06:55 | <OpenTokix> | BigSteve\Z: And you havent moved any files etc? for the database? |
| 06:55 | <BigSteve\Z> | nope |
| 06:56 | <BigSteve\Z> | clean install |
| 06:56 | <BigSteve\Z> | didnt have anything to move from another box |
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| 06:57 | <OpenTokix> | BigSteve\Z: Have you checked the /var/log/mysql.err ? |
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| 06:57 | <BigSteve\Z> | its empty |
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| 07:01 | <BigSteve\Z> | the /var/log/mysql.err == empty |
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| 07:02 | <OpenTokix> | and the log? |
| 07:02 | <weasel> | how are you starting it? |
| 07:03 | <weasel> | how did you install it? |
| 07:03 | <BigSteve\Z> | sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 07:03 | <BigSteve\Z> | and apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client |
| 07:03 | <BigSteve\Z> | or whatever the thing for it is >.< |
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| 07:06 | <BigSteve\Z> | :-/ |
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| 07:06 | <EmleyMoor> | I now have qemu-kvm installed from the backports - I am looking for clear info on what's new and how to use it |
| 07:06 | <BigSteve\Z> | OpenTokix nothing in the log either except this |
| 07:06 | <BigSteve\Z> | Tcp port: 3306 Unix socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 07:06 | <BigSteve\Z> | Time Id Command Argument |
| 07:06 | <OpenTokix> | ok |
| 07:08 | <BigSteve\Z> | I had forums and anope using the mysql |
| 07:08 | <BigSteve\Z> | I was about to get moodle going and it messed up :-/ |
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| 07:09 | <BigSteve\Z> | ./usr/sbin/mysqld, Version: 5.1.49-3-log ((Debian)). started with: |
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| 07:16 | <BigSteve\Z> | bleh |
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| 07:18 | <BigSteve\Z> | I dont know what I have done wrong :'( |
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| 07:28 | <BigSteve\Z> | whats innondb >.< |
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| 07:28 | <ayaka> | can armhf run armel's program or armel can run armhf's |
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| 07:32 | <patrunjel> | Hi, do you know how can I add the Mint fortune-thing on Debian? |
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| 07:42 | <sarefo> | hi, i'm trying to get X to run again on kernel 3.2; radeon-kms.conf has "options radeon modeset=1", so kms should be enabled before X? but Xorg.0.log gives me "RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch". |
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| 07:47 | <ayaka> | patrunjel driver's problem |
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| 08:17 | <ayaka> | can aemel run armhf's program？ |
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| 08:36 | <zeropiel> | Trying to manually add a latex package from my university. Do I put it in my home folder or in /usr/........ ? |
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| 08:37 | <themill> | you could make a ~/texmf/ that latex will look in. Remember to rerun texhash afterwards |
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| 08:39 | <ayaka> | but xetex support utf8, why not use it |
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| 08:42 | <zeropiel> | themill: Do I give my local .texmf as argument for texhash? |
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| 08:48 | <themill> | zeropiel: the default texlive search path already searches in ~/texmf; if you want it to search in ~/.texmf, then you need to "echo 'TEXMFHOME = $HOME/.texmf' > /etc/texmf/texmf.d/00localtexmf.cnf; update-texmf" |
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| 08:50 | <zeropiel> | themill: oh, thanks. |
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| 08:56 | <zeropiel> | I must be doing something wrong, or my TEXMFHOME is not set. Is it a standard env? |
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| 08:59 | <themill> | it won't get exported into the environment and doesn't need to be -- it exists just in the texlive config files. (You can also do this through the environment if you wish, but that tends to be a lot messier) |
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| 09:02 | <zeropiel> | Ok. The package is in a folder with the same name as the package. The package folder is located in $HOME/texmf/ . |
| 09:03 | <zeropiel> | I run texhash without arguments as my user and it texhash won't write |
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| 09:04 | <zeropiel> | because I dont have write access to the needed directories |
| 09:05 | <themill> | that's fine. it only needs access to ~/texmf. BTW the package probably needs to be in ~/texmf/tex/latex/package/package.sty -- latex is a bit picky about the directory structure |
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| 09:09 | <zeropiel> | That helped, thanks. Now it fails inside the .sty file. |
| 09:09 | <themill> | ohh! a jigsaw! fun! |
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| 09:11 | <zeropiel> | might as well just edit with vim in ssh |
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| 09:13 | <zeropiel> | wow, found what i needed from apt. cool |
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| 09:15 | <themill_> | zeropiel: yes "apt-cache search stylename" or "apt-file search package.sty" will often find the latex packages you need. |
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| 09:16 | * | babilen is surprised that a style file from a university is shipped in Debian :) |
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| 09:17 | <zeropiel> | babilen: It was'nt. The style file reference a package that was in cm-super-minimal |
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| 09:18 | <babilen> | zeropiel: Ah, ok. Yeah, that makes more sense! |
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| 09:21 | <babilen> | right :( |
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| 09:22 | <babilen> | :-Ăľ |
| 09:22 | <simonlnu> | :D |
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| 09:26 | <axrfnu> | hi all. i'd like to be able to deploy two different versions of a given package alternatively. both packages are contained in the apt repository i created, but only the newest one is referenced in the Packages file |
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| 09:27 | <axrfnu> | what am i supposed to do in case i want to install the older package version with "apt-get install pkg=<version>"? |
| 09:27 | <zeropiel> | thanks for the help |
| 09:28 | * | zeropiel waves |
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| 09:29 | <babilen> | axrfnu: I would recommend to create a package for each version (e.g. foo2.3 and foo4.2 (or foo2 and foo4, whatever is appropriate)) |
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| 09:33 | <axrfnu> | babilen: i tought about that, too. but as i am basically repackaging software of a given version this would be kind of confusing, if not innapropriate |
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| 09:33 | <axrfnu> | *inappropriate |
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| 09:35 | <babilen> | axrfnu: Please note that we have no idea what you are actually trying to do and why you might want to do that. I was merely suggesting another approach to the "We need to distribute versions X.Y and X.Y+1 of our company/group/... software for whatever reason" scenario |
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| 09:35 | <axrfnu> | babilen: okay, thank you :) |
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| 09:37 | <babilen> | axrfnu: So you either might want to provide more information on what you are trying to achieve or take it in your own hands. I get the impression that you merely want to be able to deploy an outdated version of a package *in addition* to the newest version as in "/msg dpkg archive". (why?) |
| 09:39 | <axrfnu> | babilen: i'd like to deploy an upgraded version of java with the possibility to roll-back in case the software is incompatible (for whatever reasons) |
| 09:39 | <axrfnu> | but, then, maybe the (=our) package naming scheme is just bad |
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| 09:40 | <babilen> | upgraded java package as in openjdk-7-jdk as opposed to openjdk-6-jdk? |
| 09:40 | <axrfnu> | babilen: no, sun^w oracle java |
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| 09:41 | <babilen> | For 7 as well? (you are aware that openjdk if the reference implementation aren't you?) |
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| 09:42 | <axrfnu> | yes, I am aware of that. but at the current point i am not to decide a switch to openjdk platform |
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| 09:44 | <babilen> | sure -- I am still not sure what the problem is. sun-java7-jdk and sun-java6-jdk are different names (and you presumably always want the newest version of those packages, don't you?) |
| 09:44 | <axrfnu> | babilen: thank you for your time and your ideas. i'll rethink the package naming scheme and come back, if necessary |
| 09:44 | <babilen> | (even though sun-java7-jdk is not in Debian) |
| 09:45 | <babilen> | axrfnu: Sure -- If you need further input and more help just come back. (or ask in #debian-mentors, but let them know that you are working on private/proprietary (?) packages that are not meant to be included in Debian) |
| 09:47 | <babilen> | axrfnu: I am also not sure if you are allowed to distribute Oracle's Java 7 due to their change in licensing btw -- but IANAL |
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| 09:48 | <axrfnu> | babilen: well, i am not about to distribute oracle java to 3rd parties |
| 09:49 | <axrfnu> | babilen: it's just for internal use |
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| 10:24 | <xiao> | hi |
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| 10:35 | <kop> | xiao: Hello. If you have a question just ask. |
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| 10:36 | <xiao> | Ok, thanks. |
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| 10:37 | <xiao> | I have problem, version wheezy not graphics script GDebi Installer... |
| 10:37 | <kop> | !cn |
| 10:37 | <dpkg> | For help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 10:37 | <xiao> | *don't hav |
| 10:38 | <kop> | xiao: If you're prefer chinese you can go there, or you're welcome here. |
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| 10:38 | <kop> | xiao: Techinically #debian-next is the support channel for wheezy, but you should be able to get some help here too. |
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| 10:39 | <kop> | ,versions gdebi |
| 10:39 | <judd> | Package: gdebi on i386 -- lenny: 0.3.11debian1+nmu1+lenny1; squeeze: 0.6.4+squeeze1; sid: 0.8.4; wheezy: 0.8.4 |
| 10:39 | <kop> | xiao: It's supposed to be in wheezy. Did you try installing it? |
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| 10:40 | <xiao> | No. |
| 10:40 | <Thorgrin> | ,versions kvm |
| 10:40 | <judd> | Package: kvm on i386 -- lenny-security: 72+dfsg-5~lenny5; lenny: 72+dfsg-5~lenny6; lenny-backports: 1:0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze4~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze7; squeeze-proposed-updates: 1:0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze8; squeeze-security: 1:0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze8; squeeze-backports: 1:1.0+dfsg-8~bpo60+1+b1; wheezy: 1:1.0+dfsg-8; sid: 1:1.0+dfsg-9 |
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| 10:41 | <kop> | xiao: Also, we tend to recommend debian's stable release. See the <stable>, <moving target>, and <bdo>, and <overview> factoids. (Type "/msg dpkg overview" into your irc client.) |
| 10:41 | <kop> | !tell Thorgrin about msg the bot |
| 10:41 | <Thorgrin> | sorry |
| 10:41 | <kop> | Thorgrin: , is the judd bot, you'd /msg judd. No worries. |
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| 10:43 | <xiao> | Ok, i installed this in terminal. |
| 10:43 | <demonkeeper> | judd: bot |
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| 10:43 | <judd> | No, I'm not a bot, I'm a frontend to a database. |
| 10:43 | <xiao> | Thanks for help. |
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| 10:57 | <[JJ]Albert> | Y'know, Debian is almost 20 years old now. |
| 10:57 | <[JJ]Albert> | Time flies. |
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| 11:04 | <[JJ]Albert> | And with such an expansive family tree of debian-based distros. |
| 11:04 | <[JJ]Albert> | It really is worth a big party. |
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| 11:04 | <petemc> | they had balloons |
| 11:06 | <[JJ]Albert> | Lol, and they sucked them all. |
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| 11:08 | <zitt> | debian stable only supports ext3 not ext4 right? |
| 11:09 | <ansgar> | zitt: I am fairly sure it supports ext4. |
| 11:09 | <[JJ]Albert> | Yeah, it's been that way for a while. |
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| 11:09 | <[JJ]Albert> | Although it doesn't select that by default, am I right? |
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| 11:10 | <zitt> | only fairly? |
| 11:10 | <zitt> | i mean on the installation options |
| 11:10 | <[JJ]Albert> | I knew what you meant |
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| 11:11 | <[JJ]Albert> | I believe its optional |
| 11:11 | <zitt> | oh ok |
| 11:11 | <[JJ]Albert> | Though maybe not default. |
| 11:11 | <[JJ]Albert> | Possibly due to inconsistency in it for the time being. |
| 11:11 | <zitt> | supose i install debian stable in ext3 and then upgrade to debian wheezy next year will i have to format to have ext4 |
| 11:12 | <[JJ]Albert> | That's beyond my knowledge. |
| 11:12 | <[JJ]Albert> | anyone? |
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| 11:12 | <zitt> | ;) |
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| 11:13 | <[JJ]Albert> | lol |
| 11:13 | <sney> | zitt: no, you don't have to |
| 11:13 | <[JJ]Albert> | Yeh, it's a longtime to learn |
| 11:13 | <[JJ]Albert> | A minute to accomplish. |
| 11:13 | <[JJ]Albert> | Or so,,, |
| 11:13 | <[JJ]Albert> | *so... |
| 11:13 | <zitt> | ty then |
| 11:13 | <sney> | debian stable supports ext3/ext2 but it also supports xfs, jfs, and several others |
| 11:14 | <zitt> | but not ext4? |
| 11:14 | <sney> | you're never required to use a single filesystem |
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| 11:14 | <sney> | it _has_ the ext4 support iirc but it's an early version of it, not recommended for production |
| 11:14 | <zitt> | yeah |
| 11:14 | <[JJ]Albert> | Yeh |
| 11:14 | <[JJ]Albert> | That's what I figured |
| 11:14 | <sney> | and then btrfs is supposed to replace the whole ext package as well |
| 11:15 | <zitt> | next year during the upgrade how do i make the entire disk to be in ext4 without formatting? |
| 11:15 | <sney> | it's not required to do that. you can just stay with ext3. |
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| 11:15 | <zitt> | i wanna be on the cutting edge :P |
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| 11:15 | <[JJ]Albert> | Lol |
| 11:15 | <sney> | dpkg: ext3->ext4 |
| 11:15 | <dpkg> | To enable <ext4> features on an existing unmounted <ext3> file system (Linux 2.6.28 or later required): 'tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sda1' (where sda1 is the partition containing the ext3 file system), then 'e2fsck -fD /dev/sda1' to fix modified on-disk structures. Don't forget to modify /etc/fstab and specify ext4 for the file system. Some ext4 features (e.g. flex_bg) can only be enabled during format via mke2fs. |
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| 11:16 | <zitt> | wow |
| 11:16 | <zitt> | ty |
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| 11:17 | <[JJ]Albert> | Yeh, that's sweet. |
| 11:17 | <[JJ]Albert> | I prefer stability and speed over cutting edge. |
| 11:18 | <[JJ]Albert> | Even if the latter does sometimes allow for more speed. |
| 11:18 | <[JJ]Albert> | In the world of *nix, this isn |
| 11:18 | <[JJ]Albert> | 't always the case |
| 11:18 | <[JJ]Albert> | :p |
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| 11:19 | <zitt> | so you'll stay in ext3 some more years? |
| 11:19 | <sney> | I'm pretty out of the loop on ext* filesystem stuff because I use jfs |
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| 11:20 | <[JJ]Albert> | jfs |
| 11:20 | <[JJ]Albert> | Howsat work? |
| 11:20 | <sney> | !jfs |
| 11:20 | <dpkg> | i heard jfs is Journaled File System from IBM, licensed under the GPL. Fast and very reliable. Performance has improved significantly since initial release(s). Give it a try! http://jfs.sf.net/ |
| 11:20 | <sney> | I started using it one install and never went back |
| 11:20 | <zitt> | maybe ill give it a try also |
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| 11:21 | <[JJ]Albert> | ping |
| 11:21 | <zitt> | sney what DE u use? |
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| 11:21 | <sney> | kde |
| 11:21 | <[JJ]Albert> | Ugh |
| 11:21 | <[JJ]Albert> | KDE... |
| 11:21 | * | [JJ]Albert waves fist |
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| 11:22 | <sney> | lol, 4.6 is nice really. I like how the compositing is just built in rather than having to mess around with compiz |
| 11:22 | <zitt> | i have bad memories with kde on opensuse |
| 11:22 | <xiao> | i use lxde and gnome-shell |
| 11:22 | <[JJ]Albert> | Ugh, lxde is almost better |
| 11:22 | <[JJ]Albert> | It's ugly as hell, though. |
| 11:22 | <zitt> | tweak it a little and it rocks :P |
| 11:23 | <[JJ]Albert> | I was always an XFCE guy. |
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| 11:23 | <[JJ]Albert> | It looks good outta the box, and configures just fine. |
| 11:23 | <[JJ]Albert> | W/o all the lag. |
| 11:24 | <[JJ]Albert> | Old computers, I have, yes. |
| 11:24 | <sney> | I like xfce too, and I really like how debian has all these options that you can just try out and switch around without being under the impression that you have to reinstall some kind of different *buntu |
| 11:24 | * | [JJ]Albert evoked Yoda there |
| 11:24 | <[JJ]Albert> | Yeh, I should give debian a try. |
| 11:25 | <[JJ]Albert> | I'll let a cat outta the bag: I've never actually used Debian before. |
| 11:25 | <[JJ]Albert> | I always touch it's filthy, filthy offsping. |
| 11:25 | <[JJ]Albert> | *offspring |
| 11:25 | <[JJ]Albert> | But not Debian itself. |
| 11:25 | <sney> | weird that you wound up in here, then. |
| 11:25 | <zitt> | ^^ |
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| 11:25 | <sney> | also, this is a non-support conversation so we should probably be in #debian-offtopic in case someone has a support question |
| 11:25 | <[JJ]Albert> | Naw, I was just told it was the most heavily populated place on this server. |
| 11:26 | <[JJ]Albert> | Oh |
| 11:26 | <[JJ]Albert> | Well, then. |
| 11:26 | <[JJ]Albert> | Help me, should I get debian? |
| 11:26 | <babilen> | sure |
| 11:26 | <[JJ]Albert> | lol |
| 11:26 | <[JJ]Albert> | kk |
| 11:26 | <babilen> | !tell [JJ]Albert -about ig |
| 11:26 | <gnugr> | +1 |
| 11:26 | <babilen> | !tell [JJ]Albert -about netinst |
| 11:26 | <babilen> | [JJ]Albert: What kind of hardware are you installing on? ("lspci -n" → http://paste.debian.net please) |
| 11:27 | <[JJ]Albert> | Well, I just happen to have a laptop for the job |
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| 11:27 | <[JJ]Albert> | An old, Dual core intel |
| 11:27 | <[JJ]Albert> | Which is x64 |
| 11:27 | <[JJ]Albert> | IIRC |
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| 11:28 | <sney> | some of them are and some of them aren't, and intel was never good at labeling which was which |
| 11:28 | <babilen> | [JJ]Albert: The netinst image should be all you need then assuming that your NIC does not need firmware (but you can use the "/msg dpkg firmware image") and that you can connect to the internet via ethernet. |
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| 11:28 | <[JJ]Albert> | Kewl |
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| 11:28 | <[JJ]Albert> | Yeah, I got a old laptop I've been wanting to experiment *nix with/ |
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| 11:29 | <[JJ]Albert> | And what better distro to stick on it than Debian? :D |
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| 11:30 | <[JJ]Albert> | I remember I tried using Debian once... On an iMac G3. >_> |
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| 11:31 | <babilen> | [JJ]Albert: Well have fun! :) -- And let us know if you have any other questions or run into problems. |
| 11:31 | <robsonremil> | como funciona isto aqui |
| 11:31 | <[JJ]Albert> | Kk, thanx |
| 11:31 | <robsonremil> | entra todo mundo aqui |
| 11:32 | <babilen> | !es |
| 11:32 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 11:36 | <EmleyMoor> | How do you set the console keymap on wheezy? |
| 11:36 | <EmleyMoor> | (#debian-next more appropriate I guess) |
| 11:37 | <babilen> | indeed |
| 11:37 | <babilen> | Should be "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" though |
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| 11:40 | <EmleyMoor> | babilen: Thanks :-) |
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| 11:58 | <sjefen6> | When running the install option from the boot menu of the 32 bit netinstall of 6.0.3 this image keeps flickering http://dl.dropbox.com/u/202630/IMG_0390.JPG |
| 11:59 | <sjefen6> | the expert install works but is a bit too advanced |
| 11:59 | <hans> | hello, when i use Preferences Monitors i get this: Monitors Unknown, Resolution 1280x1024 (and lower), Refresh Rate 0 Hz; but i need 1920x1080. this is not a hardware problem, because other distros support that resolution. how do i change the resolution in debian ? |
| 11:59 | <sney> | hans: what video hardware? |
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| 11:59 | <babilen> | (lspci -i|grep -i vga) |
| 11:59 | <hans> | amd |
| 12:00 | <sney> | hans: going to need more detail than that. |
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| 12:00 | <babilen> | sjefen6: The expert install works, but the normal text one does not? Looks like some problem with your video hardware -- I would recommend to finish the installation (preferrably the text based one) and we take it from there if the symptoms persist |
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| 12:01 | <babilen> | hans: Please run "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" and paste the result. |
| 12:01 | <babilen> | (sorry for the faulty command earlier) |
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| 12:01 | <hans> | ok, i'll try |
| 12:01 | <sjefen6> | babilen: is it some keyboard shortkut to change video modes? |
| 12:03 | <hans> | amd radeon hd 6550D |
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| 12:03 | <hans> | cpu and graphics on the same chip |
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| 12:04 | <sney> | the hd6xxx needs either fglrx or backports X/kernel + firmware-linux-nonfree, depending on your preference |
| 12:05 | <babilen> | sjefen6: None that I am aware of -- Does the normal text based installation suffer as well? (it shouldn't if the expert install works) |
| 12:05 | <hans> | 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:9640] |
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| 12:07 | <babilen> | hans: You can either install Xorg and firmware-linux-nonfree from backports (see "/msg dpkg bdo" and "/msg dpkg install x") or use the proprietary fglrx driver which you can install by following the instructions in "/msg dpkg fglrx dkms" |
| 12:07 | * | babilen recommends the former btw |
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| 12:08 | <hans> | babilen: thank you very much |
| 12:09 | * | babilen redirects thanks to sney |
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| 12:11 | <sjefen6> | install vga=normal fb=false |
| 12:11 | <sjefen6> | seems to have done the trick |
| 12:11 | <hans> | sorry for asking, but what does "/msg ..." mean ? |
| 12:13 | <babilen> | hans: It is an irc command that causes your client to send a private message to our bot (dpkg) |
| 12:13 | <babilen> | !tell hans -about irc tutorial |
| 12:13 | <babilen> | !tell hans -about dpkgbot |
| 12:13 | <hans> | ok, i got it. thanks |
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| 12:14 | <babilen> | hans: You should have received two messages from out bot now (check tabs/windows in your irc client) -- And you can continue to ask it about <bdo>, <install x> and <radeon> |
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| 12:14 | <babilen> | s/out/our |
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| 12:25 | <hans> | babilen: i didn'get any messages in XChat/Window, how do you know they should be there ? |
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| 12:26 | <babilen> | hans: I asked our bot to send them to you -- But you can use the commands I gave you earlier as well. (Essentially "/msg dpkg FOO" where FOO is one of "bdo", "radeon", "install x" ...) |
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| 12:28 | <hans> | yeah, i got that. perhaps my firewall didn't allow them to go through. is that possible ? |
| 12:29 | <Sicelo> | i doubt. you possibly have weird xchat settings |
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| 12:31 | <babilen> | hans: You can also see them at http://ircbots.debian.net/ -- But your IRC client should be able to handle those. You might want to use a different one such as quassel (http://quassel-irc.org/), irssi (http://irssi.org/) or weechat (http://www.weechat.org/) -- No idea why your XChat is misbehaving and it is most likely due to your local configuration. |
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| 12:33 | <babilen> | hans: Essentially the idea is to follow http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable backports. You can then install a newer Xorg version, kernel and firmware "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install xorg firmware-linux-nonfree linux-image-amd64" (assuming you use amd64) |
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| 12:35 | <hans> | i'm currently using ubuntu, xchat direct from CD, no changes by myself, but the info i got should be enough to go on, appreceate your help very much, bye |
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| 12:35 | <babilen> | !ubuntuirc |
| 12:35 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
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| 12:35 | * | babilen curses hans |
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| 12:36 | * | babilen lifts the curse |
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| 12:47 | <motdef> | hi, I've recently switched to Debian from Arch and I'm having a hard time setting up mpd; during setup I get a "cannot assign requested address" error, yet I appear to be able to start mpd without errors, though clients time out when attempting to connect. |
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| 12:47 | <kop> | !tell motdef about readme.debian |
| 12:48 | <kop> | motdef: (Otherwise, I know nothing, although as a new user you might find the <overview> factoid useful. Type "/msg dpkg overview" into your irc.) |
| 12:48 | <kop> | motdef: Also the logs are your friend. |
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| 12:53 | <motdef> | Right, thanks |
| 12:54 | <motdef> | Checked the log but |
| 12:54 | <motdef> | Whoops! |
| 12:54 | <motdef> | Checked the log, had some permission errors which I fixed, but now I get the "cannot assign address" error when I try to start mpd |
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| 13:04 | <ayreon> | i have a question |
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| 13:04 | <ayreon> | What is the difference between a debian package and a arch linux package? |
| 13:06 | <ring0> | swiss 2013 \o/ |
| 13:07 | <retrospectacus> | ayreon: unknown. Could be lots of differences (target locations for files, postinst commands) that won't work, or they could be identical |
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| 13:08 | <philipp> | someone knows how to build something useing cmake buildtool? |
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| 13:08 | <ayreon> | could a arch linux package pkg.tar.xz/gz be rebuilt as a debian package? If then somebody could convert the archlinux ayatana packages into debian packages...... |
| 13:08 | <arand> | ayreon: In general, I think Debian package contains more metadata and debian-specific stuff |
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| 13:09 | <babilen> | s/more/a lot more/ |
| 13:09 | <ayreon> | I know, it needs to work with debconf and what not |
| 13:09 | <arand> | ayreon: Most likely, but also it would likely need to be done manually. |
| 13:09 | <ayreon> | a long rebuild........ |
| 13:10 | <arand> | So it's not really converting, as much as starting from scratch and taking hints from their packaging, I would guess |
| 13:10 | <babilen> | ayreon: There is no way to semi-automatically debianize an ARCH package. You can, however, request that somebody packages the software (/msg dpkg rfp) and install the software locally in the meantime. I would recommend to use stow to handle these installations to /usr/local (/msg dpkg stow -- /msg dpkg stow usage) |
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| 13:10 | <Laurittaclems> | Hola |
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| 13:11 | <Laurittaclems> | Hoolaaa?? |
| 13:11 | <ayreon> | oh, okay |
| 13:11 | <Laurittaclems> | Hola me llamo laura |
| 13:11 | <Laurittaclems> | jeje |
| 13:12 | <retrospectacus> | !es-social Laurittaclems |
| 13:12 | <dpkg> | Laurittaclems: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
| 13:12 | <Laurittaclems> | Hoolaaaa |
| 13:12 | <babilen> | ayreon: Specifically for ayatana: It very much looks like a collection of Ubuntu specific UI/applet changes and I would be surprised to see it packaged in Debian. You might want to use Ubuntu if you want that. |
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| 13:13 | <Laurittaclems> | Hoolaa |
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| 14:16 | <yaiza> | xoxo |
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| 14:34 | <pedro> | oi |
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| 14:35 | <pedro> | oi |
| 14:35 | <pedro> | oi |
| 14:35 | <tschons> | oi |
| 14:36 | <pedro> | vc e d ond? |
| 14:36 | <themill> | !ubuntu-br pedro |
| 14:36 | <dpkg> | pedro: Este canal e para suportar o Debian em Ingles. Por favor, /server irc.freenode.net depois /join #ubuntu-br. |
| 14:37 | <tschons> | Santo Angelo, Rio Grande do SUL |
| 14:37 | <tschons> | e vc |
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| 14:37 | <pedro> | belem pa |
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| 14:39 | <tschons> | q programa ta usando pra entra no chat? |
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| 14:42 | <engla> | tschons: irssi |
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| 14:42 | <cesar> | xchat |
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| 14:45 | <tschons> | qual a vantagem em se comunicar com IRC? sou novo aki |
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| 14:46 | <ompaul> | !br |
| 14:46 | <dpkg> | Este canal Ă© apenas em inglĂŞs. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:46 | <cesar> | non lle ves a faciana ao outro |
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| 14:59 | <s1a4a> | hi |
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| 15:01 | <s1a4a> | s |
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| 15:07 | <m9k1> | essai |
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| 15:32 | <squeezeguy> | hi I'm in squeeze and I have some problems concerning the "open with" right button option |
| 15:32 | <squeezeguy> | anybody there? |
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| 15:34 | <babilen> | squeezeguy: No, you are alone |
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| 15:35 | <babilen> | squeezeguy: I would recommend to provide a few more details about your problem. Please also see "/msg dpkg ask" and "/msg dpkg smart questions". |
| 15:35 | <tralllator> | hi guys,any idea how do i get list of last installed packages,ordered by time ? im using aptitude :-) |
| 15:36 | <babilen> | tralllator: Check /var/log/aptitude* |
| 15:36 | <tralllator> | okay, |
| 15:36 | <tralllator> | :-) |
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| 15:37 | <babilen> | tralllator: I am not aware of a command that lists the last n packages that have been installed, but the log files for aptitude and /var/log/dpkg.log* should contain all the information you need. |
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| 15:38 | <squeezeguy> | Hi babilen. The problem is this: I right click, select open with, select the software (mp3 with audacious, mov with vlc, pd with puredata, etc.) and I click to keep this as the default program for that file, but it does not keep it.. |
| 15:39 | <squeezeguy> | I'm in debian squeeze 6.0.4 with linux 2.6.32-5amd64 kernel |
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| 15:42 | <devil> | squeezeguy: is that gnome? |
| 15:42 | <babilen> | squeezeguy: Does this hold true when you right click a file and set the default handler in the "Properties" menu? ("Set as default" should be in there (I am not using gnome)) |
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| 15:42 | <squeezeguy> | yes, gnome 2.3 |
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| 15:42 | <devil> | well, I#M out :) |
| 15:42 | <squeezeguy> | let me check |
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| 15:43 | <babilen> | devil: I share your sentiment, but lets give it a try ;) |
| 15:43 | <Xdept> | Hey, How would I completely remove a package using apt-get? |
| 15:43 | <devil> | babilen: sure, you seem to have at least a basic clue |
| 15:44 | <retrospectacus> | pXdept apt-get purge foo |
| 15:44 | <ompaul> | Xdept: apt-get remove --purge foo |
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| 15:44 | <babilen> | Xdept: "apt-get purge PKG" or "apt-get --purge remove PKG" |
| 15:44 | <devil> | Xdept: apt-get purge <foo> |
| 15:44 | <Xdept> | Thanks Guys |
| 15:44 | <babilen> | hehe :) |
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| 15:44 | <devil> | ompaul: no remove needed :) |
| 15:44 | <ompaul> | so many ways one thing done |
| 15:44 | <tralllator> | babilen: thanks,im newbie playing with webserver i neeed remove everything what i did,so i can start over ;-) |
| 15:44 | <tralllator> | thanks |
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| 15:44 | <ompaul> | devil: I like to think of the --purge as incremental on remove |
| 15:44 | <ompaul> | which is is |
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| 15:45 | <babilen> | Xdept: You might want to read "man apt-get", the example chapter at http://debian-handbook.info/liberation/ which discusses package management (and is IMHO really good) and the Debian reference (/msg dpkg reference) |
| 15:45 | <ompaul> | s/is is/it is/ |
| 15:45 | <devil> | ompaul: i used to use it in that way, but i am sooo lazy... |
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| 15:46 | <tralllator> | okay,and any idea,how do i get list of databases and users in mysql? |
| 15:46 | <Xdept> | show database; |
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| 15:46 | <Xdept> | mysql -u root -p |
| 15:47 | <squeezeguy> | babilen, thank you, it worked. |
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| 15:47 | <Xdept> | tralllator, show grants; |
| 15:48 | <tralllator> | Xdept":thanks bro |
| 15:48 | <Xdept> | ;) |
| 15:48 | <babilen> | squeezeguy: I am not sure why your approach didn't work, but meh ... You are welcome! |
| 15:48 | <squeezeguy> | Something else. I open puredata, I choose the paths to my abstractions, but although it keeps them registered, it does not see the abstractions and give me the errors in pd console |
| 15:48 | <retrospectacus> | databases* btw tralllator |
| 15:48 | <Xdept> | Yeah ^ |
| 15:49 | <squeezeguy> | yes, I know, it should work the way I did it first, but its good it works anyway |
| 15:49 | <babilen> | squeezeguy: That is a very specific question and I would recommend to ask in #dataflow on irc.freenode.net |
| 15:50 | <squeezeguy> | ok, I'll ask there, thank you |
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| 15:52 | <tralllator> | and how about deleting ? ho do i dele the database what i want get riod of :) |
| 15:53 | <Xdept> | drop <database>; |
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| 15:56 | <retrospectacus> | drop database foo; |
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| 15:56 | <Xdept> | Okay, Don't get stuck into me for my lacking mysql general knowledge |
| 15:56 | <Xdept> | :P |
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| 15:57 | <tralllator> | hmm,getting error in my sql syntax :-( |
| 15:57 | <Xdept> | That will be it, What retrospectacus Said |
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| 15:57 | <retrospectacus> | Xdept: I don't care if you don't know but you should try not to tell people wrong answers |
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| 15:58 | <Xdept> | I know, retrospectacus, I'm Sorry I wasn't trying to be a nuisance |
| 15:58 | <`poWer`> | . |
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| 15:58 | <retrospectacus> | no worries :) |
| 15:59 | <`poWer`> | hi |
| 15:59 | <retrospectacus> | `poWer`: hi. Please just ask your debian question |
| 15:59 | <`poWer`> | sorry i am new and checking my problem to explain exactly :) |
| 16:00 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
| 16:00 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:00 | <retrospectacus> | take your time :) |
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| 16:06 | <Deltatash> | Hi |
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| 16:07 | <Deltatash> | What is the correct method to install ATI propietry Drivers with 3D acceleration? as last time I tried I failed miserably lol and almsot ended up having to reformat to have a working laptop |
| 16:07 | <Deltatash> | I am using Debian 6.0 by the way |
| 16:07 | <ompaul> | !ati |
| 16:07 | <dpkg> | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 16:08 | <Deltatash> | hmm So I shouldnt have installed the fglrrx stuff through my synaptics packet manager? |
| 16:08 | <Deltatash> | and does this mean I cant get help here for installing the driver? |
| 16:08 | <jhutchins_wk> | I thought we used to have a link to a howto so we had to deal with fewer cleanups. |
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| 16:08 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: That is correct. |
| 16:09 | <Deltatash> | nice.. no support for my graphics :/ |
| 16:09 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: Yes, ther'es support, just not for the proprietary drivers. |
| 16:09 | <jhutchins_wk> | (I think that link is in <radeon> or <fglrx>) |
| 16:09 | <Deltatash> | thats what we need for the real 3D acceleration though lol :P fps is so bad in wine on things such as wow on the opensource :( |
| 16:10 | <Deltatash> | no link there |
| 16:10 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: You've got it backwards: Poor support of Open Source from your graphics manufacturer. |
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| 16:11 | <Deltatash> | ok that way then lol :P either way I need the propietry one :( I dont mind using the opensource driver its just for what i need the propietry one performs better |
| 16:11 | <Deltatash> | but I will look about and check the amd.com site thanks anyway :) |
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| 16:12 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: Also, I just checked those factoids and there are several links for howtos. |
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| 16:12 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: /msg dpkg radeon |
| 16:12 | <Deltatash> | oh I see the links now |
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| 16:12 | <Deltatash> | sorry I did not know I had to get them like that |
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| 16:13 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: Generally anything here in <>is a dpkg factoid or a metavariable. |
| 16:14 | <Deltatash> | I see |
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| 16:14 | <Deltatash> | sorry I did not know lol |
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| 16:14 | <jhutchins_wk> | Hey, we're all here to learn. |
| 16:14 | <Deltatash> | Also I hope It didnt sound like I was moaning about my graphics I hope you can understand it can be frustrating when you cant get something to work :P |
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| 16:15 | <jhutchins_wk> | Yeah, we just like to readjust the attitudes when we can. ATI is not the worst offender by far, at least they offer linux drivers. |
| 16:15 | <jhutchins_wk> | (I think they may also contribute to the OS drivers.) |
| 16:15 | <Deltatash> | ohh |
| 16:16 | <Deltatash> | im assuming this link here http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Installing_proprietary_firmware I got from the dpkg thingy in this chat is the correct walkthrough for my proprietry driver then ? |
| 16:16 | <Deltatash> | because that is the link I used before and it would not give me 3D acceleration with propriety only 2D I could not get 3D working lol |
| 16:17 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: Not sure which is better, http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 16:18 | <jhutchins_wk> | My radeon just works. |
| 16:18 | <jhutchins_wk> | Haven't tried any 3d stuff with it. |
| 16:18 | <Deltatash> | hmm I will try your link as the one i had didnt work so well last time |
| 16:18 | <Deltatash> | I would be more than happy with the open source driver its just now and then i like to play a game or two :P |
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| 16:27 | <blueunix> | None of my eth devices have IPv4 addresses... how do I assign them IPv4 addresses? |
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| 16:28 | <retrospectacus> | simplest answer is: ifconfig eth0 192.168.3.29 |
| 16:28 | <retrospectacus> | usually you'd use dhclient or set them in the interfaces file |
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| 16:29 | <blueunix> | retrospectacus: ok... well I tried setting them in the /etc/network/interfaces file... and then I restarted my eth device via 'ifconfig eth0 down' 'ifconfig eth0 up' |
| 16:29 | <blueunix> | but 'ifconfig' still doesn't show an IPv4 address |
| 16:29 | <retrospectacus> | that's not it, you want ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 16:30 | <blueunix> | ok let me try that |
| 16:30 | <retrospectacus> | or /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 16:30 | <blueunix> | retrospectacus: I read that '/etc/init.d/networking restart' was depreciated? is that true? |
| 16:31 | <retrospectacus> | yes it is |
| 16:31 | <blueunix> | ok |
| 16:31 | <retrospectacus> | should still work though |
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| 16:31 | <retrospectacus> | the correct way is with ifup and ifdown now, I believe |
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| 16:31 | <blueunix> | well running 'sudo ifdown eth0' responds with ' ifdown: interface eth0 not configured' |
| 16:31 | <squeezeguy> | another would be /etc/init.d/network-manager force-reload |
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| 16:31 | <blueunix> | ok |
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| 16:31 | <squeezeguy> | sorry if I interrrupt |
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| 16:32 | <blueunix> | no its fine thatnks squeezeguy |
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| 16:32 | <blueunix> | edit: thanks |
| 16:32 | <retrospectacus> | that'd work if your interfaces are managed by network-manager instead of the interfaces file |
| 16:32 | <squeezeguy> | you're welcome |
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| 16:32 | <blueunix> | why would it say eth0 isn't configured... hmmm here is what is in my interfaces file: |
| 16:33 | <retrospectacus> | blueunix: pastebin! |
| 16:33 | <blueunix> | k lol |
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| 16:35 | <retrospectacus> | blueunix: but don't worry if ifdown says that, worry about ifup |
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| 16:35 | <blueunix> | ok I just ran 'ifup eth0' ... with no error.... so let me see |
| 16:36 | <blueunix> | ok good now it shows an IPv4 address |
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| 16:37 | <blueunix> | just for future reference... how would I output the contents of a file (like /etc/network/interfaces) to pastebinit? I tried 'nano /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit' but it didn't work |
| 16:38 | <retrospectacus> | pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:38 | <retrospectacus> | or cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit |
| 16:39 | <retrospectacus> | (useless use of cat but portable to other commands you might need to pipe) |
| 16:39 | <retrospectacus> | nano does not go with pipes |
| 16:39 | <blueunix> | ah ok |
| 16:39 | <blueunix> | thanks retrospectacus for the help |
| 16:39 | <retrospectacus> | sure thing, have fun |
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| 16:40 | <motdef> | just wondering - should I be able to ping localhost on a properly configured network? |
| 16:40 | <retrospectacus> | motdef: yes, even without a properly configured network. |
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| 16:40 | <motdef> | then it looks like that's the source of my issues with mpd as I'm getting no response at all |
| 16:41 | <retrospectacus> | motdef: you should have "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:41 | <motdef> | yes, they're the only two lines in there (using wlan0 with wicd) |
| 16:41 | <retrospectacus> | run ''ifup lo'' as root |
| 16:42 | <motdef> | perfect, thanks |
| 16:42 | <motdef> | shouldn't the "auto lo" line automatically up it? |
| 16:43 | <retrospectacus> | yes |
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| 16:44 | <motdef> | ah well, I'll just get it to start after wicd |
| 16:44 | <retrospectacus> | perhaps ''insserv networking'' will help |
| 16:44 | <motdef> | my clients are connecting to mpd now any way, so thanks very much |
| 16:45 | <retrospectacus> | you're welcome |
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| 16:48 | <grifx> | Hello |
| 16:48 | <grifx> | I'm a beginner on DEBIAN |
| 16:48 | <Spike_DE_> | hi grifx |
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| 16:49 | <grifx> | Someone can help me to install MYSQL WORKBENCH ? |
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| 16:50 | <Spike_DE_> | grifx: what did you try already? |
| 16:50 | <retrospectacus> | grifx: debian doesn't have mysql workbench |
| 16:50 | <grifx> | i download the unbuntu .deb |
| 16:50 | <grifx> | on wb.mysql.com |
| 16:51 | <grifx> | then |
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| 16:51 | <grifx> | I write: dpkg -i .FILENAME |
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| 16:52 | <grifx> | He told me : There are dependancies |
| 16:52 | <grifx> | i had to install some stuff |
| 16:52 | <grifx> | I did it |
| 16:52 | <grifx> | but |
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| 16:52 | <grifx> | I didn't foud libzip1 |
| 16:52 | <grifx> | found |
| 16:53 | <CXIV> | I have installed Wheezy , and I got gnome-themes-extras but I cannot set darklooks theme |
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| 16:53 | <grifx> | mysql-workbench-gpl dépend de libzip1 |
| 16:54 | <retrospectacus> | CXIV: please go to #debian-next for wheezy support |
| 16:54 | <CXIV> | OK |
| 16:54 | <CXIV> | Thanks |
| 16:54 | <retrospectacus> | see you there :) |
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| 16:55 | <grifx> | WHy apt-get libzip1 don't work |
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| 16:56 | <retrospectacus> | grifx: you can't install ubuntu packages in Debian. |
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| 16:57 | <grifx> | retrospectacus, It is a .deb |
| 16:57 | <grifx> | i belivied that significate .debian |
| 16:57 | <Deltatash> | any idea when trying to add a new gpg key i get "gpg: Total number processed: 1" "gpg: unchanged: 1" what is the correct way to add a key? |
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| 16:58 | <retrospectacus> | grifx: an unfortunate misunderstanding. |
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| 16:59 | <grifx> | so what can i do to install mysql workbench on debian |
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| 16:59 | <grifx> | retrospectacus, ? |
| 16:59 | <ayreon> | babilen : there is a ayatana repo for arch linux |
| 17:00 | <retrospectacus> | grifx: debian doesn't have mysql workbench. Use phpmyadmin or the mysql client. You could possibly install workbench on another non-debian machine and manage the DB on debian from there |
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| 17:01 | <grifx> | A friend have got workbench on a debian machine |
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| 17:01 | <Deltatash> | anyone ? |
| 17:02 | <grifx> | Workbench is used to design a DB |
| 17:02 | <Deltatash> | how do i fix "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907" |
| 17:02 | <Deltatash> | for apt-get update |
| 17:02 | <ayreon> | http://repo.ayatana.info/ the archlinux ayatana repo..... A repackaging would be cool |
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| 17:03 | <grifx> | retrospectacus, thanks... |
| 17:03 | <retrospectacus> | grifx: then ask him, or google. We don't really support non-debian software here |
| 17:03 | <Deltatash> | there is nothing online that I can see or find that helps me resolve this problem to add the gpg key or whatever it is to enable apt-get update to use what is in my sources.list |
| 17:04 | <Deltatash> | im not asking for support for non debian software though, I am asking for support on how to add gpg keys IN debian |
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| 17:04 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: I was talking to grifx |
| 17:04 | <Deltatash> | ahh sorry |
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| 17:04 | <Deltatash> | my fault :P |
| 17:04 | <blueunix> | Deltatash: you need to install keyrings |
| 17:05 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: random example: gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 17:05 | <Deltatash> | hmm I have tried a command similiar to that i will try your one see if it is any better, thanks |
| 17:05 | <Deltatash> | install keyrings ? |
| 17:05 | <Deltatash> | is that what retrospectacus gave me ? or something different? |
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| 17:05 | <blueunix> | you're getting a error during apt-get right? |
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| 17:05 | <Deltatash> | yeah |
| 17:06 | <Deltatash> | apt-get update |
| 17:06 | <blueunix> | right |
| 17:06 | <blueunix> | hold on |
| 17:06 | <retrospectacus> | it's a warning not an error, you can ignore it |
| 17:06 | <Deltatash> | if i ignore it i can not use that source for my software :( |
| 17:06 | <retrospectacus> | false, you just have to press Y |
| 17:06 | <blueunix> | you need debian-keyring and debian-archives-keyring |
| 17:07 | <retrospectacus> | it depends what source he is talking about |
| 17:07 | <blueunix> | yeah that's true |
| 17:07 | <retrospectacus> | could be debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 17:07 | <Deltatash> | yeah |
| 17:07 | <retrospectacus> | or something else |
| 17:07 | <grifx> | How can I install MYSQL WorkBench on Debian ! |
| 17:07 | <Deltatash> | thats what im trying to add |
| 17:07 | <Deltatash> | the multimedia |
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| 17:08 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: the directions are clear, /msg dpkg dmm squeeze |
| 17:08 | <Deltatash> | it tells me to run "apt-get update && apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring && apt-get update" but that does not work |
| 17:08 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: yes it does! You just need to accept the untrusted package debian-multimedia-keyring |
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| 17:09 | <Deltatash> | well it doesnt give me option to accept it just says 1 processed and 1 unchanged.. does not add |
| 17:09 | <retrospectacus> | then you've already done it |
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| 17:09 | <retrospectacus> | and apt-get update will not warn anymore |
| 17:09 | <Deltatash> | i will try again then |
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| 17:12 | <Deltatash> | when i run apt-get update what does "hit" mean ? |
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| 17:13 | <Deltatash> | probably a stupid question >.< sorry but I am still getting used to debian |
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| 17:22 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: Hit means you already have that file (cache hit) |
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| 17:26 | <Deltatash> | ahh ok |
| 17:26 | <Deltatash> | thanks retrospectacus :) |
| 17:26 | <Deltatash> | so when my multimedia hits, it means i have the key added sucessfully ? becuase it has the file? |
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| 17:43 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: it means you fetched it recently and the server's not going to bother sending it again |
| 17:43 | <retrospectacus> | nothing to do with the keys |
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| 17:45 | <Deltatash> | ok |
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| 17:46 | <Deltatash> | is there a sure way to make sure I have added the key? |
| 17:46 | <retrospectacus> | lots of ways |
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| 17:46 | <retrospectacus> | apt-get update - no errors? |
| 17:47 | <infinity0> | anyone got any ideas on a language-neutral way to specify --exec |
| 17:47 | <infinity0> | to start-stop-daemon that is |
| 17:47 | <infinity0> | if my language is python i need to specify --exec /usr/bin/python but that's really ugly and changes if the underlying implementation changes |
| 17:48 | <gdb> | Do you mean something like env? |
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| 17:48 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: apt-get install libdvdcss2 (e.g.) no errors? |
| 17:48 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: or dpkg -l debian-multimedia-keyring |
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| 17:49 | <Deltatash> | ill try |
| 17:49 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: if you must |
| 17:49 | <infinity0> | gdb: that's not suitable, the file defines /usr/bin/python in the shebang |
| 17:49 | <Deltatash> | I think its worked |
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| 17:50 | <Deltatash> | thanks for the help :) |
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| 17:51 | <retrospectacus> | infinity0: can't you just put the path of your executable file there? |
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| 17:51 | <Deltatash> | brb I am logging off to restart attempting to install propriety drivers lol |
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| 17:52 | <infinity0> | retrospectacus: the path is unknown at write-time |
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| 17:57 | <squeezeguy> | hi again, is there a place to read this IRC channel guidelines and shortcuts? |
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| 18:00 | <retrospectacus> | !tell squeezeguy about irc tutorial |
| 18:00 | <retrospectacus> | !tell squeezeguy about dpkgbot |
| 18:01 | <squeezeguy> | thank you retrospectacus |
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| 18:04 | <Deltatash> | back, looks like installing my graphics driver worked :D |
| 18:04 | <retrospectacus> | !congratulate Deltatash |
| 18:04 | <dpkg> | Hugs & Puppies Deltatash, you did it! |
| 18:04 | <Deltatash> | is there a command to see which driver is in use? to be sure I am using the propriety one and not the opensource? |
| 18:04 | <Deltatash> | lol thanks :D |
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| 18:05 | <Deltatash> | 3D acceleration seems to be fine to the glxgears works np :D i had problems getting 3D to work last time i attempted this lol |
| 18:06 | <blueunix> | deltatash: glxinfo |
| 18:06 | <Deltatash> | ahh ok |
| 18:06 | <blueunix> | I think |
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| 18:06 | <retrospectacus> | ''lsmod'' should say fglrx or w/e in there too |
| 18:07 | <Deltatash> | ok ill try lsmod |
| 18:08 | <Deltatash> | hmm I can not see fglrx in either of those commands xD |
| 18:08 | <blueunix> | fglrx is listed for me in 'lsmod' |
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| 18:09 | <blueunix> | deltatash: did you run 'aticonfig --initial -f'? after you installed fglrx-driver and fglrx-control |
| 18:09 | <Deltatash> | yeah |
| 18:09 | <Deltatash> | but i done it |
| 18:09 | <Deltatash> | without the -f |
| 18:09 | <micove> | lsmod | grep fglrx |
| 18:09 | <micove> | less verbose |
| 18:09 | <blueunix> | I don't think the '-f' flag should matter... it just forces it |
| 18:09 | <Deltatash> | ok |
| 18:10 | <Deltatash> | micove, that gives me "fglrx 2452362 59" |
| 18:10 | <micove> | or |
| 18:10 | <micove> | glxinfo | grep vendor |
| 18:10 | <micove> | yeah it is loaded then |
| 18:10 | <Deltatash> | So I suppose that means I am using the propriety driver now? |
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| 18:11 | <gdb> | infinity0: I don't understand what the problem is, then. |
| 18:11 | <gdb> | infinity0: If you're stuck with #!/usr/bin/python then.. that's what you're stuck with, isn't it? |
| 18:11 | <gdb> | infinity0: You can't modify the files? |
| 18:11 | <Deltatash> | thanks guys :) |
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| 18:12 | <infinity0> | gdb: my problem is it's impossible to predict an appropriate value for the --exec flag to start-stop-daemon if you want to support multiple potential implementations of the daemon in different interpreted languagse |
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| 18:12 | <infinity0> | because the "exec" of any process is the interpreter, not the actual program file, when that applies |
| 18:12 | <infinity0> | it's ok, i've made a really ugly hack around it |
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| 18:14 | <gdb> | infinity0: Ah, I see what you mean. |
| 18:14 | <gdb> | because what will appear in the process list is something like /bin/sh myscript or /usr/bin/python mytool.py or whatever. |
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| 18:14 | <infinity0> | right |
| 18:15 | <infinity0> | my hack involves checking /proc/$pid/exe and seeing if it matches the program's name, if it doesn't then i match using --name instead of --exec |
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| 18:15 | <infinity0> | it's not perfect though because --name functionality is severly stunted on linux, to 15 chars |
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| 18:15 | <infinity0> | but that's just enough for me |
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| 18:46 | <CilitBang> | hi. i have hundreds of failing dhcpdiscover entries in syslog. in /etc/network/interfaces i have no dhcp entry. where to switch that off? |
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| 19:01 | <blueunix> | Why would my TFTP clients be giving me an ARP error? |
| 19:02 | <blueunix> | Where's the tftpd config file? |
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| 19:04 | <shepherd> | CilitBang: Maybe a rogue entry for dhclient in one of your startup scripts? |
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| 19:09 | <shepherd> | blueunix: IIRC the tftpd config is done through /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 19:14 | <cpaq> | Hi, there is a new database api for php called pdo, anyone know how to configure debian for php pdo database connections |
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| 19:20 | <blueunix> | shepherd: ok thanks |
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| 19:22 | <blueunix> | I don't have an /etc/inetd.conf file |
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| 19:22 | <blueunix> | ?? |
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| 19:24 | <cpaq> | init.d |
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| 19:26 | <blueunix> | cpaq: Yeah that's where I looked first... before I asked here... /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa |
| 19:26 | <blueunix> | but there's nothing in that directory |
| 19:27 | <cpaq> | blueunix, what are you trying to do? |
| 19:27 | <blueunix> | PXE boot |
| 19:27 | <blueunix> | my clients can get info fine from my DHCP server |
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| 19:28 | <blueunix> | but when They try to access my TFTP server... they give an ARP error |
| 19:28 | <cpaq> | what is the error? |
| 19:29 | <blueunix> | I never setup my TFTP server beyond the initial TFTP directory that gets created at '/srv/tftp' during the install via 'apt-get install tftpd-hpa' |
| 19:29 | <blueunix> | give me a sec |
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| 19:29 | <blueunix> | 'PXE-E11: ARP Timeout' |
| 19:30 | <cpaq> | http://lists.debian.org/debian-beowulf/2003/06/msg00015.html |
| 19:30 | <blueunix> | and then 'PXE-E38: TFTP cannot open connection' |
| 19:31 | <cpaq> | http://www.stsx.org/debian/pxedebian-bootserver.html |
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| 19:32 | <blueunix> | ok thanks cpaq I'll take a look at those |
| 19:33 | <cpaq> | blueunix, that's the best I can do for you, but maybe there will some more experienced people around later to help |
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| 19:33 | <blueunix> | brb |
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| 19:42 | <blueunix> | well... I should have known this... the config file for tftpd-hpa is in the '/etc/default' directory.... just like the config file for isc-dhcp-server |
| 19:43 | <blueunix> | shepherd was right about the '/etc/inetd.conf' file though. but it's an optional config file for Inet super-server... whatever that is |
| 19:45 | <retrospectacus> | !inetd |
| 19:45 | <dpkg> | inetd is the internet super-server, read 'man 8 inetd' for details. Also ask me about <update-inetd> |
| 19:45 | <blueunix> | ok thanks retrospectacus |
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| 19:46 | <blueunix> | well the one link cpaq gave me stated that an ARP Timeout error is usually caused by a simple address or netmask problem... |
| 19:47 | <blueunix> | If DHCP hands out the ip address/gateway/netmask.... could I still have an issue? |
| 19:48 | <blueunix> | I guess I could... couldn't I? |
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| 19:50 | <blueunix> | Do I have to have a "domain-name-server" set in my dhcpd.conf? |
| 19:50 | <blueunix> | if so what would it be for an internal network? |
| 19:51 | <cpaq> | blueunix, sorry, I am not knowledgable about this, maybe someonen else wil show up |
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| 19:51 | <retrospectacus> | DHCP should provide name servers |
| 19:51 | <blueunix> | that's fine... the second link you gave me was excellent. Thanks |
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| 19:55 | <blueunix> | why would my eth0 interface keep dropping it's IPv4 address.... I have it statically set via /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:55 | <blueunix> | but it always picks up an IPv6 address |
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| 19:57 | <DoctorDude> | Anyone decent with SELinux? Trying to configure my debian install to run GNOME after having installed SELinux. Audit2allow not doing the trick :( |
| 19:58 | <retrospectacus> | DoctorDude: http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
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| 20:00 | <DoctorDude> | Thank you for replying - I've spent a great deal of time on the wiki to little avail. I've fixed the appropriate PAM files as well. I was wondering if testing or unstable had an updated policy that integrates better with gnome (i can reach a login window on enforcing mode, but can't get my desktop). |
| 20:00 | <DoctorDude> | Audit2allow generated a module which supposedly would fix the issues as outlined by the AVC, but hasn't |
| 20:00 | <retrospectacus> | no idea about selinux |
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| 20:02 | <DoctorDude> | Hmm...I would think the audit2allow derived module would fix it but doesn't seem to be doing the trick :( |
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| 20:24 | <DoctorDude> | I'm updating my SELinux policy to wheezy...maybe that'll do it :/ |
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| 20:56 | <ratnick> | where do I get: non-free firmware rtl_nic/rtl8168-2.fn |
| 20:57 | <DoctorDude> | have you added the non-free repository to your sources and looked for it there? |
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| 21:07 | <ratnick> | Maybe I found it. It's non-free Realtek wireless... |
| 21:07 | <DoctorDude> | Found it in the repo? |
| 21:07 | * | ratnick added the sources |
| 21:07 | <DoctorDude> | gotcha |
| 21:08 | <ratnick> | it's a bundle of Realtek firmware drivers |
| 21:08 | <micove> | should be firmware-realtek |
| 21:08 | <micove> | package |
| 21:08 | <DoctorDude> | You're not by any chance an adroit SELinux user are you? :P |
| 21:09 | <ratnick> | there's a bug report active on it |
| 21:09 | <ratnick> | no, xfce squeeze |
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| 21:10 | <ratnick> | seems hardware specific, like portables with wifi |
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| 21:13 | * | ratnick got this MB on Ebay, and scabbed it together into an old tower box. Runs well after some pick 'n choose fron the iso's |
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| 21:15 | * | ratnick is getting to know trial & error. |
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| 21:17 | <ratnick> | it's an AM3 with 3 core AMDII cpu and a gig of mem |
| 21:18 | <Newbumz> | Hi all |
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| 21:19 | <ratnick> | hi right back |
| 21:19 | <Newbumz> | So figure I would just ask a question here since forums are as usefull as ever. I just bought a ATI Firepro 4800 g-card. I am wondering if I should bother trying to install the AMD ATI FirePro Software Suite (Ubuntu friendly) or skip it and go fglrx? |
| 21:19 | <ratnick> | try 'em both and choose |
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| 21:20 | <Newbumz> | I won't be digging crap out with a spoon if I try both? |
| 21:20 | <Newbumz> | <<< Used to nvidia |
| 21:20 | <ratnick> | you can always reinstall it all |
| 21:20 | <Newbumz> | Yeah. Figured I would try asking first to avoid that :) |
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| 21:20 | <ratnick> | heh |
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| 21:23 | <ratnick> | I guess what I'm trying to say is, search is the way when no live help is no help |
| 21:23 | <Newbumz> | Does anyone know if Debian is not listed as supported with ATI suite because of the Yeah Open Source mantra or because it is lacking in unstable? |
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| 21:24 | <Newbumz> | Did some searching came up with alot of vague. |
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| 21:24 | <sney> | probably some variation on the former |
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| 21:24 | <sney> | plus a lot of vendors seem to think listing "ubuntu support" is plenty |
| 21:25 | * | ratnick wonders if building hardware is faster than writing software |
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| 21:25 | <sney> | I don't know what the firepro's comparable radeon model is, but using fglrx from debian non-free will probably give you the least headache, especially where stuff like X upgrades are concerned |
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| 21:37 | <Newbumz> | <sigh> I feel I might need to do benchmarking then. My main goal is 2D video and 3D rendering performance on 2K monitors. |
| 21:39 | <Newbumz> | More 2D then anything couldn't decide between a Firepro 4800 and a Matrox/ |
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| 21:44 | <robbiethe1st> | Hm, I wonder what sort of performance stock Nvidia cards would have on 2k screens... |
| 21:45 | <Newbumz> | Not stock but I am currently running a XFX Fatal1ty 7600 passive cooled and it runs pretty decent for 2D but I would like a bit more. |
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| 21:46 | <Newbumz> | Fire up minecraft now though and my system grinds. |
| 21:47 | <sney> | ok, the firepro 4800 is in the same gpu series as the radeon 5xxx, so it should Just Work for some purposes with radeon/firmware-linux-nonfree, and the fglrx in squeeze should also cover you if you need more performance |
| 21:47 | <sney> | radeon on its own without the firmware package is probably what's giving you that grind, so to speak |
| 21:48 | <Newbumz> | I havn't plugged the radeon in yet. I am still asking around to hopefully avoid headaches. |
| 21:48 | <Newbumz> | Firepro* |
| 21:48 | <Newbumz> | Same thing |
| 21:49 | <sney> | so what you've got now is a geforce 7600 with the stock nvidia driver? no wonder you're seeing a slowdown. it barely even does 3D. |
| 21:51 | <sney> | !nvidia dkms |
| 21:51 | <dpkg> | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>. |
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| 21:51 | <sney> | ^ instructions for proper 3d in your current setup |
| 21:51 | <Newbumz> | I am using the old proprietary Nvidia driver for the 7600 seems to handle under wine about as well as windows. |
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| 21:52 | <sney> | wine? I thought you said you were testing with minecraft. |
| 21:52 | <Newbumz> | Hrm yeah I guess that would be different |
| 21:53 | <sney> | wine just adds more variables. and it tends to be hinky if your debian install is 64-bit. |
| 21:53 | <Newbumz> | Oh no I'm not running neuvo |
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| 21:54 | <Newbumz> | neuvno* |
| 21:54 | <retrospectacus> | nouveau |
| 21:55 | <retrospectacus> | good try :) |
| 21:55 | <Newbumz> | Spelled it right the second time :P |
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| 21:56 | <arinov> | rhythmbox in debian cant read non-utf8 tags, how to enable it? |
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| 21:58 | <Newbumz> | Well thanks for all the input guys I really appreciate it. Going to lurk now. |
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| 22:03 | <Newbumz> | Not an answer but I like gmusicbrowser |
| 22:03 | <Newbumz> | <shrug> sorry |
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| 22:11 | <alaa> | hi every body i want to convert my xubunt to unity ? |
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| 22:13 | <retrospectacus> | alaa: this is #debian. You want irc://irc.freenode.net/#xubuntu |
| 22:13 | <retrospectacus> | or irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu |
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| 22:13 | <alaa> | thanks |
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| 22:36 | <scientes> | !ubuntuirc |
| 22:36 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
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| 22:39 | <blueunix_> | Why wouldn't tftpd-hpa log in the syslog? |
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| 22:46 | <rattatoue> | sney, I did the complete reinstall even with the other kernel. Same problem 3.2 still wont boot |
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| 23:23 | <Guest4488> | I am trying to install nvidia driver for my card, it says I need headers. I cant find the linux-headers for my kernel through the apt. So I am trying to update my kernel then to fix this, but the kernel doesnt want to boot then. Any suggestions? |
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| 23:56 | <vijay> | hello |
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| 23:57 | <vijay> | anyone home ? |
| 23:57 | <lostson> | always people around |
| 23:57 | <vijay> | i needed help installing a deb package |
| 23:58 | <vijay> | i am new to XChat can anyone help me ? |
| 23:58 | <vijay> | :| |
| 23:58 | <nevyn> | vijay: what app? |
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| 23:58 | <nevyn> | vijay: what deb package? |
| 23:59 | <nevyn> | from where? |
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| --- | Log | closed Wed Feb 29 00:00:30 2012 |
