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---Logopened Sat Mar 03 00:00:13 2012
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00:36<cardamon>Does anyone use xmonad? I'm trying to get a basic configuration working for it. The fact that I don't know haskell isn't helping. Will gdm3 just run it, or do I need to do a little more on that end?
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00:43<flukiluke>is anyone else having problems with
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01:28<dom_>hello ,everyone.who can tell me something about the flash vnc or give me a link also is ok.thanks
01:28<sney>flash vnc?
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01:31<dom_>who can/
01:33<dom_>sney:do you know something about it?
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01:36<sney>I don't know what you mean.
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01:44<laite>Hi, I'm interested in installing debian stable, but I'm a bit worried about my graphics card (Nvidia 450)
01:45<dpkg> . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on
01:45<laite>It requires proprietary drivers to work properly (even in 2d-desktop use, not to mention HDMI-sound), but I think that nvidia-glx in stable repos is too old for support
01:46<laite>thanks, I've been readin them wikis for a while now, but my question really would be that how difficult it is to install newer driver to stable (I guess this is the "Nvidia Way" in wiki)
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01:46<simonlnu>you'd probablt need to use wheezy's or sid's
01:47<laite>is it possible to get only that specific pckage from their repos?
01:47<simonlnu>well, depending on dependencies, you can, but chances are you can't without a little breakage unless you use a backport kernel
01:47<dpkg> (formerly is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>.
01:48<simonlnu>otherwise you can run off the nouveau driver, then dist-upgrade to wheezy, then install whichever of sid's or wheezy's nvidia packages you need for it.
01:49<laite>ok, that backport-thing looks nice
01:49<laite>didn't know about it
01:49<simonlnu>any more questions, i'm sure thefolks here ccan answer, i'm off to ZZzz.. land. good luck :)
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01:49<laite>thanks :)
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03:01<salamander>Hello, I need to change the console font and dpkg-reconfigure console-setup does not work, what showld I do?
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03:08<Volley>salamander: running a setupcon afterwards also doesn't?
03:09<salamander>Volley: trying it now
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03:09<salamander>Volley: then, Do I have to reboot or there is another way to reload tty console fonts?
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03:11<Volley>salamander: i don't know very much about all that, i just did dig into the boot process of a live cd yesterday, and mentioned command did set the console font for me ( along with the keyboard layout ) - it's handled by ... /etc/init.d/console-setup too
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03:32<lp>did something happen with
03:32<lp>i see that too, kind of: my VPS (in the USA) doesn't see the update, but my netbook (Germany) saw and installed it already
03:32<lp>are the servers no longer in sync? DSA-2422 (file) was on Feb. 29, quite some days ago
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03:37<melmothX>the answer seems this:
03:37<lp>just saw it, thanks :-D
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03:57<jez9999>Hi guys, I have a bit of a n00b question on IPv6
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04:04<jez9999>You know IPv6 addresses have a zone index?
04:04<jez9999>like fe80::1%index
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04:05<jez9999>well, if IPv6 needs this to distinguish link-local IP addresses, how is it handled in IPv4 (eg. you have two interfaces with the same IPv4 address on the same host)?
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05:26<zero_>im looking for a place to host source code, I was thinking of using google code but then I thought why not just rent a server, does anyone know of a good server leasing service? (maybe AWS)?
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05:30<lp>zero_: commercial or open-source?
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05:32<lp>zero_: if you plan on cooperating with others, github and bitbucket are hard to beat (or sourcefoge if you're of the "older school")
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05:48<flukiluke>anyone knnow what's going on with Can't seem to connect, but ftp version is OK
05:49<gnugr>flukiluke: can't connect either
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05:50<MartinDeb>I was able to ping them and connect to them.
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05:52<MartinDeb>Oh, I'm connecting using an America-based ISP.
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05:54<flukiluke>MartinDeb: could you connect to both the ftp and http versions?
05:54<MartinDeb>Just the ftp version.
05:54<MartinDeb>Although I might not have waited long enough for the http version.
05:55<flukiluke>Same results here. Must be something with their http server.
05:55<MartinDeb>Nope, I can't connect to the http version.
05:55<gnugr>flukiluke: you can also use "deb <version> main contrib non-free"
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05:57<flukiluke>gnugr: Yes, I know, but the au version is faster, and it seems strange only some connection method are working.
05:57<gnugr>i can't connect from Greece either
05:58<gnugr>to aussie
05:58<flukiluke>Ah well. Thanks for trying it, though. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
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05:59<MartinDeb>Updating from kernel 2.6.32 to kernel 3.2.9 using a 2.6.32 config file in place of a defconfig file should be fine, right?
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06:02<Guest4893>y que quiere
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06:03<Guest4893>quien esta ahi
06:03<zero_>lp: thanks!
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06:07<MartinDeb>Would it be possible to update from kernel 2.6.32 to kernel 3.2.9 while using a 2.6.32 config in place of a defconfig, or are there too many kernel updates between them?
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06:08<MartinDeb>I guess I'll find out.
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07:10<ayaka>does fuser has been removed in armhf?
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08:00<ratnick>what is this? FATAL: Error inserting edd (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/firmware/edd.ko): No such device
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08:01<Zaba>that driver's for a device your system doesn't have
08:02<ratnick>so this MB is missing a device? why did it detect a presence?
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08:03<salamander>hi tere, I dont know how to change the console fonts, can anyone help me?
08:04<ratnick>Edit/Profile Preferneces
08:04<salamander>where would that be??
08:04<simonlnu>profile prefs for console fonts? o_O
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08:04<ratnick>menu bar next to File. A submenu
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08:05<salamander>I'm on a debian squeeze, xfce DE, and in this console there is no menu bar
08:05<ratnick>It is in Gnome terminal. There are several terminals available
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08:06<ratnick>try system fonts
08:06<salamander>I tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, when I had no xorg it was the command to do the thing, but now it does nothing
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08:07<ratnick>try another terminal via synaptic (apt-get install synaptic as root or sudo
08:08<salamander>I like this terminal, I just want to change the fonts =)
08:08<ratnick>1, install synaptic. 2. find terminal apps. 3. install another terminal
08:09<salamander>besides Im trying to keep the sistem as clean as posible, not too much instalations
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08:09<ratnick>these environments are different but have some apps in common.
08:10<salamander>is there anyting like xconsole, or xconsole settings or something under /etc/X11 to edit and change these fonts??
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08:11<salamander>ratnick: thanx, man xterm is helping
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08:19<ratnick>this machine has 15 unclassified devices
08:20<ratnick>(made for windoes) i guess
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08:22<Zaba>ratnick, unclassified how?
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08:25<ayaka>ext2, ext4 which is faster in sd, i can't use ubifs or jaffs so don't think it
08:25<ratnick>I set the BIOS to PNP before squeeze install
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08:26<ratnick>is debian a pnp system?
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08:28<Zaba>uhm, everything since the '90s is
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08:43<knoppix747>weiß jemand wie man die Bedingung für das Einlogpasswort ändert
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08:43<ayaka>ext2 and ext4 which is faster in sf
08:44<ayaka>knoppix747 what is your language
08:44<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
08:44<towo`>and btw, knoppix is not debian
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08:45<knoppix747>ich weiß der Name ist nicht Programm
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08:49<salamander>My CRT monitor is almost death, so I have to xgamma -gamma 1.5 every time I restart the cmputer. Is there anyway to automatice this??
08:51<ratnick>a big hammer
08:51<salamander>getting closer every day
08:52<ratnick>salamander: just kidding. CRT's deteriorate over time and are not worth repair here in the us
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08:53<ratnick>salamander: they're becoming obsolete. I have two left still running
08:53<salamander>ok, send them to me =)
08:54<ratnick>salamander: check out ebay
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08:57<salamander>ratnick: I ment for free
08:58<ratnick>salamander: automating the gamma (any control) is 1. driver for video card. 2. driver for crt. 3.any manual adjustments inside the crt such as variable components. free? Local I would guess.
08:58<salamander>Anyway, here in Argentina are obsolete too, nobody wants to repair this stuff and it does not worth it, But I'm a garabage fun,
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08:59<ratnick>I used to tinker on crt tv's, but it was trial and error. (small screwdriver required and vom
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09:05<john__>gearmand debuild seems te be broken, it was supposedly fixed @
09:05<john__>but its still broken :(
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09:10<qt-x>hello people
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09:12<ayaka>how to edit cpu freq in kernel?
09:12<qt-x>how can I change numbers of disk partition example switch: /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1
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09:16<qt-x>ayaka, are you referring to cpu frequency setted by the bios ?
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09:17<ayaka>qt-x no, in kernel
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09:17<ayaka>qt-x i don't have bios
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09:23<towo`>qt-x, use cpufreq-set
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09:40<ayaka>towo but i want to use sysctl directly
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09:46<qt-x> ayaka use synctl -a | grep cpu to see if synctl is responsible for that parameter and synctl -w parameter_name=value
09:46<qt-x>use man synctl should help
09:47<ayaka>qt-x thank you
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10:09<apostle2>I am using Debian Squeeze, when I run /etc/init.d/networking....getting Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces ... (warning).
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10:09<apostle2>just trying to change my dns server cause my webpages are slow in coming up
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10:18<ayaka>which is better performance for sd between ext4 and ext2
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10:44<ayaka>which is better performance for sd between ext4 and ext2
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10:44<eightyeight>ext4 is journaled, so it's doing twice the writes of ext2
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10:46<amitz>althought certain setting can accumulate multiple writes as one write
10:47<eightyeight>then you risk data inconsistencies
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10:48<amitz>as a consequence of performance.
10:48<amitz>by any chance, any debian package that can help me play around with house layout?
10:50<dpkg>It's always Sunday in #debian!!!
10:50<eightyeight>well sure. if you don't care about data integrity, you can do a number of things for maxing out performance
10:50<dpkg>ext4 (fourth extended filesystem) supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents, available since Linux 2.6.28. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. ext4 is not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121) and not the default filesystem in Squeeze (Debian bug #603084). #ext4 and #linuxfs on
10:51<amitz>hmm, xfig, dia, and qcad... no version for idiot (that is me).
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11:04<R33D3M33R>hello, I'm trying install drivers for my wireless card on squeeze: ... it's rtl8192ce ... the card worked before i freshly installed the system, but now it doesn't wan't to cooperate:
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11:11<brisket>hi could someone help me with an apache question?
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11:12<babilen>brisket: Sure, but note that there is also a dedicated apache channel (#httpd) on
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11:13<brisket>ah ok thanks
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11:13<brisket>i installed apache and went through the config but must have missed something
11:13<brisket>when i restart apache i get this message restarting apache says: Restarting web server apache2(98) Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
11:13<babilen>R33D3M33R: You forgot to install firmware-radeon which is needed for those adaptors
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11:14<brisket>any ideas how i can fix this?
11:14<R33D3M33R>babilen: you mean firmware-realtek? it's installed
11:15<R33D3M33R>ls -a rtl_nic/. .. rtl8105e-1.fw rtl8168d-1.fw rtl8168d-2.fw rtl8168e-1.fw rtl8168e-2.fw rtl8168e-3.fw
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11:21<R33D3M33R>i also installed linux-firmware-nonfree but nothing
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11:25<ayaka>(ayaka) which is better performance for sd between ext4 and ext2
11:26<eightyeight>ayaka: we've answered your question. please pay attention
11:27<ayaka>eightyeight sorry, thank you
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11:28<ayaka>but but the problem is what will cause data lose
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11:30<babilen>R33D3M33R: Sorry -- I temporarily lost internet connection. You need the firmware-realtek package from squeeze-backports IIRC (/msg dpkg bdo)
11:31<R33D3M33R>no problem, i installed that from backports (and reinstalled)
11:31<babilen>R33D3M33R: What is the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" ?
11:31<babilen>R33D3M33R: Ah, did that solve the issue?
11:32<R33D3M33R>still the same
11:32<R33D3M33R>03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
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11:33<R33D3M33R>i'm guessing i'm missing some package that is in default debian install, but i don't have it installed
11:33<babilen>R33D3M33R: Ok, please give me the lspci output and show me that of "modprobe -r rtl8192ce ; modprobe rtl8192ce ; dmesg | tail -n23" on please
11:33<babilen>,pciid 10ec:8176
11:33<judd>[10ec:8176] is 'RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in squeeze but has kernel module 'rtl8192ce' in sid. See also
11:33<babilen>R33D3M33R: No, you merely need a newer kernel as well. See "/msg dpkg bdo kernel" for instructions on how to install one from backports.
11:34<R33D3M33R>i have this one: Linux andrej-debian 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Feb 11 08:41:32 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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11:34<babilen>That should work -- May I see the output of the modprobe command?
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11:35<R33D3M33R>just a second
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11:37<ayaka>ok, another question, i fomat a partion by accient, can i restore it easily?
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11:37<babilen>R33D3M33R: Splendid -- You are sure that you have firmware-realtek from backports? (apt-cache policy firmware-realtek)
11:37<babilen>ayaka: No
11:38<babilen>ayaka: What exactly did you do to it? "format" is highly ambigous on on Linux
11:38<R33D3M33R>babilen: hmmm: 0.28+squeeze1
11:38<babilen>R33D3M33R: Yeah, you need the one from backports -- "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install firmware-realtek" and run the modprobe command again.
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11:38<R33D3M33R>hmm, ok
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11:39<R33D3M33R>it says the latest version is installed
11:39<ayaka>babilen what do yo call mkfs.ext4 do
11:39<fasta>Is there a tool which takes N pages containing 2 scanned real bookpages and converts it to 2N PDF pages including OCR'ed text?
11:39<R33D3M33R>that is extremely strange
11:39<babilen>ayaka: "creating a filesystem" -- and that is hard to undo
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11:40<cesar>sudo umount fs
11:40<babilen>R33D3M33R: Please show me the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy firmware-realtek", "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install firmware-realtek" and your sources.list
11:40<ayaka>in fact, because i can use debian, so i want to flasg android, but recovry fomat the sd-ext where stored debian, that is what i did
11:41<ayaka>class4 is slow, and it take me long time to achice this stage only can't boot, so i want to undo that
11:41<R33D3M33R>i know what is wrong
11:41<R33D3M33R>deb squeeze-backports main
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11:42<R33D3M33R>there is no non-free line
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11:42<babilen>R33D3M33R: Yes, you need "main contrib non-free" there
11:42<R33D3M33R>my god, i spent 3 hours struggling with this problem because of one line
11:42<R33D3M33R>thank you so much for your help
11:42<cesar>welcome to linux
11:42<R33D3M33R>i wouldn't figure it out myself
11:43<babilen>R33D3M33R: You are most welcome -- Please fix that, install the correct firmware-realtek package and reload the module. Lets get this working!
11:43<jerryclunsford>My sound volume is fine in games and dvd player but banshee media player has very low volume. Where do I need to look to correct this?
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11:43<ayaka>babilen but but how do you say i partion exsited then mkfs it
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11:43<ayaka>babilen but but how do you say a partion exsited then mkfs it
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11:44<R33D3M33R>ok, the error is gone :D
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11:45<cesar>sources @linux: LPIC 1, LPIC 2
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11:46<babilen>ayaka: Forgive me, but I have no idea what you are trying to say.
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11:47<jerryclunsford>Babilen; I believe is referring to making the file system on a new partition.
11:47<ayaka>babilen i mean i don't create a filesystem just recreate
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11:48<babilen>ayaka: What do you mean by "recreate"? If you don't want to make any changes to a filesystem you don't do anything. If you want to create a new one you create a new one. There is no middle-ground.
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11:49<R33D3M33R>ok, i will have to restart the computer as network manager didn't detect it yet, thank you for your help and bye
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11:50<ayaka>babilen no no, i just said which word i should use to describe create filesystem or recreate
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11:51<brisket>hi i cant get my apache server to restart without getting the apache2(98) address alredy in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::}:80 error message
11:51<brisket>any ideas?
11:51<babilen>ayaka: "create a filesystem" is fine and the correct way to refer to an action like "mkfs.ext4 ..."
11:51<ayaka>what is the cpu frequence mean, i know its mans, just don't understand it show which kind of frequent
11:52<ayaka>babilen so format is a another meaning?
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11:52<sney>ayaka: don't irc while drunk
11:52<babilen>brisket: Looks as if you have an Apache/httpd running already. Could you execute and paste the output please?
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11:53<babilen>ayaka: "format" is a term used in MS Windows and typically means the same thing as "create a new filesystem". I just wasn't sure if you changed the partition table as well.
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11:56<ayaka>babilen i see, thank you
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11:56<fasta>How can I run the Java Webstart application on this website?
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11:57<fasta>Try it on Squeeze before responding.
11:57<ayaka>how to know a partition is a primay partition or extend?
11:57<brisket>babilen>thanks i'm setting apache on a different server. i ran the command but the output is too long to type in here. i will try to join xchat on that server and restart it
11:57<babilen>brisket: Ok, just check if you have a daemon running on port 80
11:58<bch>hello, I have an annoying problem with my X11 clipboard. When I select something and want to paste it into vim, only a small portion is copied!
11:58<bch>Has anyone an idea, how to solve this? Is the clipboard too small?
11:58<brisket>i did by running netstat -lnp | grep :80 and didn't get anything back
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11:59<babilen>bch: Try: "+yy or "*yy to copy to clipboard and "+p or "*p to paste from clipboard (further details in #vim on
12:00<ayaka>cesar so the partiton behind extened all is extened?
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12:01<cesar>ayaka im not going to say you are drunk, but try a good spelling when you post
12:01<cesar>in computer science is a basic topic
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12:02<bch>babilen: It seems to work. I didnt expect it to be a vim related problem, thanks
12:02<jerryclunsford>Maybe English is a second language for them
12:02<babilen>bch: You are welcome. Have a nice day and happy vimming :)
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12:02<didi>newbie on here, can anyone help me about login on ubuntu 10.04
12:02<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
12:02<babilen>!tell didi -about ubuntuirc
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12:03<ayaka>cesar sorry, thank you
12:03<didi>babilen thanks
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12:05<cesar>get it!
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12:06<ayaka>how to know the uuid of partition
12:06<brisket_>hi babilen I'm back on the server I'm trying to configure apache
12:07<brisket_>I ran the command I can paste the contents here but it's pretty long
12:07<sney>brisket_: paste it to
12:07<brisket_>got it
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12:08<jerryclunsford>Where can I look if all applications (web, dvd player, games) sound volume is fine, but in one audio player (Banshee) sound volume is very low.
12:08<cesar>try apt-get install uuid & man uuid
12:08<brisket_>babilen when you say execute do you mean enter this in a browser url box?
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12:11<biologolunar>ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/
12:11<babilen>brisket_: No, it is a shell script and you can save it and execute it locally as root. But wait a second -- I'll be back in a few minutes.
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12:11<biologolunar>ayaka: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/
12:12<ayaka>by i don't know which uuid is which disk
12:12<brisket_>thanks babilen
12:14<jerryclunsford>Take it easy.
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12:14<biologolunar>ayaka: also, see file /etc/fstab
12:15<ayaka>ok, just think the disk is not in it
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12:17<themill>ayaka: blkid
12:17<cesar>you got the IBM Andrew?
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12:17<ayaka>themill thank you
12:18<themill>(that doesn't really give any more information than the command biologolunar gave you though)
12:19<cesar>be careful
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12:20<ayaka>biologolunar thank you
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12:20<biologolunar>ayaka: by label, ls -la /dev/disk/by-label/
12:21<biologolunar>ayaka: by ID, ls -la /dev/disk/by-id/
12:22<biologolunar>path ---> ls -la /dev/disk/by-path/
12:22<biologolunar>ayaka: good
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12:28<brisket_>babilen you back?
12:29<brisket_>i entered the contents from your shell script, saved it and ran it and have posted the results to any ideas?
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12:30<babilen>brisket_: Ok, that looks fine. What happens if you run "service apache2 restart" ?
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12:32<brisket_>root@kentdebian:/home/brisket# service apache2 restart
12:32<brisket_>Restarting web server: apache2(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
12:32<kop>babilen: Cool script. The only thing you left off was the name of the script in a comment. What do you call it?
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12:33<brisket_>yeah that script is great. thanks
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12:34<ayaka>how to cp a text from w3m to vim, without X
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12:35<MrFrood>ayaka: use gnu screen
12:35<babilen>kop: It is called "list-daemons"
12:35<Zaba>or use gpm
12:36<kop>brisket_: So, it can't listen on ipv6.
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12:36<ayaka>MrFrood both screen and gpm can do that?
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12:37<Zaba>gpm lets you use a mouse in console to copy/paste text
12:37<jay_>does anyone know how to solve cd rom drive read , eject issues ?
12:37<snikkit>smash it
12:38<kop>jay_: A hammer?
12:38<jay_>when you are done joking, let me know
12:38<kop>jay_: In other words you'd better tell us what the problem is. We're not joking. Type "/msg dpkg doesn't work" into your irc client.
12:39<MrFrood>ayaka: Zaba is right but screens paste bufer is better suites for longer sections of text
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12:39<ayaka>MrFrood could you describe how to
12:39<jay_>kop, obviously the problem is i can't read or eject
12:39<brisket_>kop sorry what do you mean?
12:40<brisket_>have i somehow pointed it to ipv6?
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12:40<kop>jay_: It's not obvious. And how do you know you can't read or eject? What are the symptoms? Unless you tell us we're just guessing. (Perhaps the <smart questions> factoid is something for bedtime reading.)
12:41<kop>brisket_: It might try by default. Dunno. And you might not have _any_ ipv6, even on localhost. Dunno. That's a guess but that might get you that message.
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12:42<jay_>kop, i guess i don't know the sun is up as well
12:42<kop>jay_: Absolutely not. We're a world-wide shop here. Lots of dark around.
12:42<brisket_>interesting, did some additional reading and found a post where someone said to check apache.conf and ports.conf and make sure You don't have a line that says Listen *:80 on both
12:42<jay_>kop, dude, joke with someone else
12:43<MrFrood>ayaka: entering the term "gnu screen copy paste" into your search solution of choice should provide no end of guides and tutorials
12:43<brisket_>I did so when I removed it from the apache2.conf file and then ran /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it started with no error
12:43<kop>jay_: Good luck getting help if you won't answer our questions or tell us what's happening.
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12:45<jay_>anyone else solved cdrom read eject issues ?
12:45<brisket_>so now when go to the ip address of my server it says Index of / then shows a link to Name Last Modified Size and Description below it. I think this must be progress :)
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12:46<ayaka>MrFrood thank yoy
12:46<brisket_>now i just have to figure out how to point the www site name I got from go daddy to my server ip. DNS I guess?
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13:15<brisket_>Hi still having issues could someone help. I went through a tutorial to put LAMP on my debian squeeze it says to create vi /var/www/info.php i did that and created the file as it says but when it go to my ipaddres/info.php it says not found
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13:30<haylo>what is the actuall cli to run debian-installer ?
13:31<haylo>cli command*
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13:53<d-man>hello, can anyone help me?
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13:54<towo`>d-man, no
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13:54<d-man>awww shucks
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14:07<kartick>how can i run c programing in pear os??????
14:07<kartick>how can i make 3d animation in pear os
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14:09<towo`>here is #debian, not #paeros
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14:21<squeezy>no bug if i use another account
14:22<lebronjames>yo- you know how it says "You have new mail." at the bash prompt?
14:22<lebronjames>it just said "Thou hast new mail." WTF?!?! is that an Easter egg?
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14:22<squeezy>i was nicked d-man before, referring to the nvidia bug
14:24<chealer>squeezy: not unless you tell how you can be helped.
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14:24<squeezy>i was talking with someone before
14:25<squeezy>just dont remember names too well,
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14:25<squeezy>well, the bug has been reported, searching in gnome activities panel crashes with NV non free drivers
14:25<squeezy>but changing to root or another account fixed it
14:26<squeezy>at least for me
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14:26<lebronjames>anyone ever seen "Thou hast new mail."?
14:29<squeezy>which i now realize might mean its not purely driver related
14:29<petemc>lebronjames: grep -iR "thou hast" /etc/
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14:31<lebronjames>why does it say "Thou hast... ?"
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14:32<petemc>for yucks
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14:41<brisket>hi could someone here please help me with a weird apache question?
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14:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
14:43<brisket>oh sorry i installed debian and apache and my web pages don't show up when i go to the ipaddress of my server
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14:44<brisket>i'm doing this myself from home i put the html file into /var/www and when it go to the ipaddress of my server it just says Index of / then has colums for Name Last modlified Size and Description but these are blank. Any ideas why the html file i have in /var/www isn't showing up?
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14:45<MrFrood>brisket: I'm not an expert but have you tried accessing your server on ports used by other protocols (ie. test to see if it's a routing issue or an issue with apache)?
14:45<cesar>man, do you pay your IP service?
14:45<cesar>not at all
14:46<brisket>? not sure how i can access my server ports
14:46<MrFrood>brisket: at a guess, sounds like a permissions issue
14:47<brisket>thanks but i don't know why it's going to / rather than /var/www
14:47<brisket>i don't want to change / so everyone can see it
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14:48<MrFrood>brisket: are you sure it's the root folder?
14:48<brisket>no just because it says index of / i assumed
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14:50<MrFrood>brisket: that should ust be the web root (e.g. /var/www) but shown as / to the outside world
14:51<MrFrood>brisket: the names of the files you can see should tell you which it is
14:51<brisket>ah ok cool. this is my first time to try this so just learning. i assumed i'd somehow given access to the / directory
14:52<MrFrood>brisket: check which it is - just incase something went wrong with the config
14:52<brisket>i'm thinking this must be a config issue and that this should be pointing to /var/www i must have misconfigured it somewhere. but i don't know where
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14:53<MrFrood>brisket: what folder are the files that apache is showing in?
14:54<brisket>currently apache isn't showing any files it just says index of / but there are no files shown just an empty page
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14:55<MrFrood>brisket: are there any files in /var/www ?
14:56<brisket>MrFrood, yes these are there briskettech index.html info.php test.shtml Trophy_Room.html
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14:56<brisket>but if i try my ip address/info.php it says it can't find the file
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14:58<MrFrood>as I said I'm not an eapert and it a while since I messed with this stuff so you are going to have to use your commen sense but check the permissions and group ownweshil of one of the html files abd change if you think necessary.
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14:58<brisket>MrFrood Thanks for your help
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15:30<brisket>anyone had an issue with apache before that is didn't show your web pages? I suspect something isn't configured right but not sure what
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15:36<fahaldidprof>what kind of box are you running?
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15:37*sney shrug
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15:40<brisket>debian squeeze
15:40<brisket>i must have something misconfigured
15:40<brisket>any ideas where i could look?
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15:41<sney>it's been a while since I fought with apache, but i'd start in /etc/apache2/conf.d
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15:44<qkzoo>Can somebody tell me how to use wget to download a file to a specific location?
15:47<arand>qkzoo: -P to set an dest dir, -O set a cat-all blob
15:47<brisket>hi sney actually my /etc/apache2/conf.d file is empty
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15:53<qkzoo>arand: I think i'm using it wrong, can you give an example of how to use it with the -P?
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15:56<arand>qkzoo: Looks like "wget site1.dom/file -P downloaddir/site1" works for me
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16:00<qkzoo>WOrked great,thanks arand!
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16:08<baronobeefdip>I am trying to limit users for telnet and on ubuntu the file used to do that was /etc/xinit.d/telnet, this is not present in debian so where is that file
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16:08<baronobeefdip>this limits who can access the service at what time of the day, who can log in from a specific location and so on
16:08<Ganneff>err, dont use telnet
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16:09<baronobeefdip>i know it's not reccomended and that everyone prefers ssh but i need these steps on how to do it in telnet
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16:12<baronobeefdip>the file was called /etc/xinetd.d/telnet in ubuntu where is it in debian
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16:13<francis>feliz soi con este SO
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16:16<brisket>any apache experts that would like to help?
16:16<Ganneff>baronobeefdip: then you need to install xinetd...
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16:17<baronobeefdip>what if i already have the telnet runnign through the inetd daemon instead of xinetd
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16:17<Ganneff>then configure the inetd you use
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16:18<baronobeefdip>wheres the cofig file for inetd that matches the one in the xinetd.d because i am trying to restrict access via telnet from certain locations from certain users for certain hours of the day
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16:20<baronobeefdip>just installed xinetd and the telnet file isn't there, i installed telnet by using the apt-get install telnetd command and it used inetd instead of the xinetd daemon how do i get the telnet installed with the xinetd daemon instead of the inetd one
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16:41<moxxx>hows every1?
16:42<moxxx>i got trouble setting up my ovpn on debian
16:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:44<moxxx>i got perfect privacy (its a proxy service) and want to route all my traffic by theris servers
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16:49<moxxx>any1 ?
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16:51<dpkg>1) Don't ask to ask. Just state your problem, 2) Don't repeat until 10 mins after, 3) Read and re-read the docs first, then admit it if you REALLY don't understand. You're wasting your time and ours if you haven't at least tried. 4) If your problem ain't solved, come back in 12 hrs or 24 hrs later. We're very international. 5) Be polite and patient. 6) #debian supports only Debian (see <based on debian>)
16:53<installguy>Hey people! I'm having a problem building a package for ATI/AMD Drivers (12.1 X86_64) Using the guide here : and create.deb packages.
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16:58<moxxx>any1 can help me with vpn on linux?
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17:04<mer>q pasaaa??
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17:04<mer>okk quien ereessss????????????'
17:05<Guest4946>soy tu padre
17:05<Guest4946>y me estoi follando a tu puta madre
17:05<jhutchins_lt>ops troll infestation
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17:05<jhutchins_lt>!ops troll infestation
17:05<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jhutchins_lt complains about: troll infestation
17:06<Guest4946>me cago en buestra puta madre
17:06<Guest4946>la guarra
17:06<Guest4946>no bea como chilla la perra
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17:07<Guest4946>no chilles perraa!!
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17:07<Guest4946>que se enteran los vecinos
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18:08<jcdubacq>I have been looking for a offline deduplication program for sometime. I finally settled on fdupes, but I found also duff and rdfind
18:08<jcdubacq>owever, I did not find some feature I thought would be useful
18:08<jcdubacq>after one large set has been examined (and possibly modified by deleting or hardlinking files), store a table containing (filename, size, modification date, hash). On subsequent launches, if the first three match, assume the fourth was not modified.
18:08<jcdubacq>Anybody heard about something like this?*
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18:52<lechevalier>LUBUNTU is practical
18:53<lechevalier>i can open a terminal anywhere
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18:57<lechevalier>peut-on parler en Français ?
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19:00<devil>lechevalier: this is debian, not ubuntu
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19:04<lechevalier>devil : je suis un profane en informatique
19:04<devil>besides being debian channel, this in english only
19:05<lechevalier>devil : ok
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19:08<lechevalier>devil : i am looking for debian on wikipedia
19:10<lechevalier>and ma faire une idée
19:10<daemonkeeper>It's like Siduction, only worse.
19:10<devil>daemonkeeper: debian is?
19:11*devil patpats debian
19:11<devil>daemonkeeper: going to CLT?
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19:13<lechevalier>devil : debian is very popular
19:13<devil>i heard it is
19:13<lechevalier>and democratic
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19:15<lechevalier>i use the server sofware of debian
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19:18<theocrite>legnaleurc: you might want to try #debian-fr
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19:22<lechevalier>devil is a pseudonym ....
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19:25<theocrite>Nah, I think devil is his real name.
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19:26<devil>please allow me to introduce myself...
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19:30<hoshi411>that is my fstab
19:30<hoshi411>my machine on the gnome side has no problems
19:30<hoshi411>on the kde side it will not allow me access to any of my drives
19:31<hoshi411>on the gnome side I run as system admin (not root but barely any difference in privs)
19:31<hoshi411>on the kde side I run as a normal user
19:31<hoshi411>I want access to my drives
19:31<hoshi411>they all mount as read only
19:32<hoshi411>I tried copying my gnome fstab onto the kde side and ... still doesnt work
19:32<hoshi411>i can mount the drives as root
19:32<hoshi411>but then even as root am not able to create new files
19:32<phabi0>I am running debian 6.0.4 with bpo's I have downloaded google chrome's .deb package from google chrome. Then installed using debians .deb package installer. I had to create the launcher myself and now google chrome insists it is not set as default browser every time I launch it. I have set it as default in every way I can find via google searches. How can I remedy this?
19:32<hoshi411>what I really want is access for all users read and write
19:33<lechevalier>i use seamonkey
19:35<themill>hoshi411: kde doesn't allow you to mount internal drives like that, only external drives. If you want to mount internal drives, just mount them from /etc/fstab.
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19:42<hoshi411>themill, ok that is interesting but still, I posted my fstab. It seems like this fstab should work
19:42<hoshi411>just enable rw,defaults or something like that
19:42<hoshi411>even that does not work
19:42<hoshi411>I tried the user options the rw options the default options in many different variations
19:43<hoshi411>tried logging in and out and restarting etc
19:43<hoshi411>still, i get no read write access to my internal drives
19:43<hoshi411>why would gnome allow me to access them but kde lock me out?
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19:44<Winder>hola a todos
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19:45<Winder>he instalado debian hace poco y quisiera recomendaciones de las mejores aplicaciones para este so
19:45<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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19:47<user10>can anyone point me to a list of packages that have to be installed before MAKE will work in squeeze? I am getting "no such file or directory. Stop." because i don't have everything
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19:48<valdyn>!b-e user10
19:48<dpkg>user10: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential.
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19:48<user10>i'll try it, i think I have build essential tho, does aptitude = apt-get?
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19:50<garn32>its similar
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19:52<user10>yeah, i already have that one. hmmmm....
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19:52<garn32>have you run ./configure in the directory?
19:52<user10>no, ran "make clean"
19:52<garn32>run ./configure
19:53<user10>ok, brb, tjx
19:53<garn32>then make
19:53<ratnick>is centerim stable?
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19:57<user10>guys, with build-essential installed (and lots of other things), this may be a "i'm too dumb to be able to build this" issue. its been 6 months since I last did one.
19:57<user10>the ./configure just said file not found which means I am not setting things up right
19:57<garn32>what are you trying to build?
19:58<user10>Broadcomm STA driver, the wireless isn't working on this laptop
19:59<user10>maybe what I need is to just google up a tutorial on how the heck to compile something. I remember ./configure in the process, but i must not have the dir structure set up right
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20:01<user10>garn32: what am I seeking to do here? compile a program or build a package?
20:01<garn32>are you in the directory when you're calling ./configure?
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20:02<garn32>the directory of what you want to build
20:02<user10>yes, i am in the dir where the driver tarball extracted to
20:02<babilen>user10: You, most likely, don't need to compile it from upstream sources. What is the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network"?
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20:03<user10>WL is a BCM4311 802.11 b/g wlan
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20:03<dpkg>b43 is a driver supporting PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN devices with Broadcom chips, part of the Linux kernel. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by <b43legacy>. For BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) device support, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. #bcm-users on
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20:04<babilen>user10: What is the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" ?
20:04<user10>babilen: brb with paste...
20:04<user10>i tried to install firmware-b43-installer but it said package not found
20:05<babilen>user10: That package is in unstable which you have to enable in your sources.list
20:05<hoshi411>is this wrong "/dev/sda2 /media/Windows ntfs rw,defaults 0 0"
20:05<babilen>!tell user10 -about non-free sources
20:05<babilen>!tell user10 -about make squeeze sources.list
20:05<hoshi411>for my fstab
20:05<hoshi411>im trying to mount my internal parition as rw for all users
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20:07<user10>01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 02)
20:07<babilen>user10: Please follow the instructions on the wiki (linked above) for b43legacy and make sure that you install the right firmware. You can then reload the module with "modprobe -r b43legacy ; modprobe b43legacy"
20:07<babilen>,pciid 14e4:4311
20:07<judd>[14e4:4311] is 'BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in squeeze. See also and the out-of-tree 'wl' module.
20:07<phabi0>babilen, you helped me last time, maybe this time you can be equally as helpful!
20:07<phabi0>I am running debian 6.0.4 with bpo's I have downloaded google chrome's .deb package from google chrome. Then installed using debians .deb package installer. I had to create the launcher myself and now google chrome insists it is not set as default browser every time I launch it. I have set it as default in every way I can find via google searches. How can I remedy this?
20:08<babilen>phabi0: Please ask in a chrome channel (I am not aware of a channel right now) -- Debian ships chromium and we can unfortunately only support that here.
20:09<TCW>what is the difference between chrome and chromium btw?
20:09<babilen>user10: Good luck and good night :)
20:10<user10>thank you
20:10<user10>i am reading wiki now
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20:29<othor>I am having trouble with a new debian install (wheezy) on a new pc, it seems that partman does not like the way I want to setup the drives and decides to hang at 50% scanning disks after I configure them manually with fdisk, if I wipe the partitions and let partman do it his way, it seems to work (but partman incorrectly aligns the drive and provides no way to configure it?). I am trying to put 2 SSD drives in raid 0 but so far only managed to ge
20:31<simonlnu>use (one of) the stable install cd(s)
20:31<othor>I have already tried that and results were the same
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20:32<simonlnu>damn. usually it should work fine. dunno what the problem could be.
20:32<garn32>do you have up to date firmware on the drives?
20:32<othor>Is there a way around using partman, can't I configure how the partitions are used myself, and skip the partman step?
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20:36<TCW>othor, partman sees partitions and can use them without repartitioning them...
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20:38<othor>That's what I thought, but I have to use partman to select how these partitions are used (i.e. how they are mounted) and before I can do that he scans and there he hangs
20:39<othor>I have not looked into the firmware version, I was unlucky enough not to check before buying but it seems that the Corsair does not provide a linux friendly way to upgrade the firmware, at least not that I know
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20:39<TCW>othor, any messages in the virtuell console F4?
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20:42<othor>TCW: Nothing out of the ordinary I think, no errors or anything, last message is: partman-lvm: no volume groups found. I am not using LVM
20:43<TCW>but i "scans" anyway, otherwise it couldn't detect anything ;)
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20:43<TCW>othor, raid0, right?
20:44<TCW>othor, ever used debootstrap before?
20:46<othor>TCW, no I haven't, something I should look into?
20:46<TCW>othor, most definitely :)
20:46<dpkg>debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>.
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20:48<TCW>othor, basically you do it "manually", all the way from partitioning, raid, lvm, crypt, whatever and then "install" basic set of packages on those manually created filesystems. Then install grub (manually) and reboot
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20:59<user10>guys, the is no help i'm afraid. all those solutions don't work - the packages are all "not found"
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21:00<TCW>user10, what package for example?
21:00<user10>sry, firmware-b43legacy-installer
21:00<garn32>you tried the ndiswrapper?
21:01<TCW> 0
21:01<TCW> 500 file:/mnt/mirror/debian/ stable/contrib i386 Packages
21:01<TCW>user10, have you "contrib" in your sources.list?
21:01<garn32>I think that its in nonfree
21:01<TCW>garn32, ndiswrapper sucks and is in no way necessayr
21:02<user10>the packages all say they download the non-free, but the packages don't run, did things just change?
21:02<TCW>user10, pardon me?
21:02<user10>this is why i started here trying to compile something, because broadcomm's support page was good with a recent tarball
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21:03<garn32>can you pastebin your steps in compiling it?
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21:03<TCW>no idea about the wiki, it may be faulty (you could correct it...) but the firmware installer *is* in contrib
21:04<user10>TCW: sorry, multiple conversations. no sources.list, what is that?
21:04<TCW>the firmware itself or other stuff may be in non-free
21:04<TCW>user10, you do not know what the sources.list is?
21:04<TCW>user10, and you are sure you've read the wiki?
21:05<user10>lol - well now you are making me wonder... :-)
21:05<user10>i'll go re-read. so, ndiswrapper - yes or no guys/
21:05<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>, or are encumbered by patents or other legal issues. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system run "aptitude search '~i~scontrib'". For the non-free tracking system, see
21:05<TCW> Add a "non-free" component to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example:
21:05<TCW> # Debian Squeeze/6.0
21:05<TCW> deb squeeze main contrib non-free
21:06<TCW>and do you see "contrib" there?
21:06<TCW>user10, and no to ndiswrapper
21:06<user10>ahhh, ok, i stayed away from that non-free stuff, i guess i had to embrace it
21:07<user10>ok, no ndiswrapper and yes non-free. thanks gents, i'll try again.
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21:07<biologolunar>user10: ,
21:08<TCW>user10, and a "yes" to contrib... and yes, the wiki should be more clear on that
21:08<user10>...and..."I could fix that"... LOL
21:08<TCW>yes do that :)
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21:29<babilen>user10: Please also read "/msg dpkg make squeeze sources.list" (I asked the bot to sent you that earlier)
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21:31<xwl>hi, there is no way to customize proxy for epiphany? except system wide setup?
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21:32<user10>well, onto the next issue, u were right (u knew that) about sources.list, i mis-understood.
21:33<user10>so basically the package IS there, one just has to tell apt-get WHERE to go via sources.list, that's the crux of it
21:34<user10>i am configuring wlan now, must reboot, if i don't come back, thanks MUCH for the assistance
21:34<TCW>user10, why reboot?
21:34<user10>ha - i wondered that too. something about 2 connections at once?
21:34<babilen>user10: In that case I hope to not see you again -- But a reboot really isn't necessary. I gave you the commands to reload the module earlier and it is all that is needed.
21:34<user10>ha - i wondered that too. something about 2 connections at once?
21:35<TCW>user10, hm?
21:35<babilen>user10: Ah, you might have to disconnect, but there is no reason to check if you wireless works first.
21:35<user10>yes - the mod thingy - didn't work
21:35<user10>could be the ole ID10T error :-)
21:35<TCW>mod thingy?
21:35<user10>modprobe -r b43legacy ; modprobe b43legacy
21:36<user10>modprobe command not found
21:36<TCW>and "did not work" is a very descriptive error description... I really have to admit that!
21:36<TCW>user10, did you run that as root?
21:36<babilen>user10: Please run that command as root (or with sudo (*both* modprobe commands))
21:37<TCW>is the wiki page really that crappy? :)
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21:37<user10>*sigh*, brbm i have to switch users as this one is not in sudoers
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21:37<TCW>su -
21:38<user10>4 hours, one problem, cut me some slack :-)
21:38<TCW>user10, you do NOT need to switch users!
21:38<TCW>user10, do it right the first time and it'll be a thing of 5 Minutes...
21:39<user10>ok, done, didn't indicate success or failure. just came back
21:39<TCW>user10, dmesg
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21:40<user10>driver loaded
21:40<TCW>user10, iwconfig shows the device?
21:40<othor>Apologies I had gnome crash on me after an update. But thanks TCW I'm going to see about a debootstrap and see how it goes, installing debian on another partition disk atm
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21:41<user10>yes, it did before
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21:41<user10>[ 7505.604560] Broadcom 43xx-legacy driver loaded [ Features: PLID, Firmware-ID: FW10 ]
21:41<TCW>user10, then all should be ok
21:41<babilen>user10: Looks fine -- Does "iwconfig" list it with wireless extensions?
21:42<TCW>user10, you use network-manager / gnome?
21:42<user10>wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any
21:42<user10> Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=0 dBm
21:42<user10> Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
21:42<user10> Encryption key:off
21:42<user10> Power Management:off
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21:44<user10>broke a rule, sry
21:44<biologolunar>user10, now would you install wicd package, and test if connect to wifi
21:45<TCW>biologolunar, why wicd?
21:45<user10>i'm trying to answer babilen's ?
21:45<user10>pan0 no wireless extensions.
21:46<biologolunar>Well, I suggest
21:46<babilen>user10: Ok, please run "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan" -- Does it list wireless networks?
21:46<TCW>pan0 is bluetooth... not of interest
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21:47<biologolunar>babilen: what you say is correct
21:47<user10>it lists a LOT of stuff, cell 1, 2, 3...anything particular we need to know?
21:47<user10>holy crap
21:47<user10>the light is BLUE boys!
21:47<TCW>user10, no... that just means "working" and all is good
21:47<user10>LOL -
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21:48<TCW>no use the tools you want / prefer to configure the connection
21:48<TCW>err... now*
21:48<user10>using GNome config tools
21:48<babilen>user10: Wonderful -- That means that your wireless adaptor is working. You can now proceed to configure it via one of the methods listed in -- Do you need to connect to multiple wireless networks or do you only connect to a single one?
21:49<babilen>user10: I should also note that you probably want to take the interface down now with "ifconfig wlan0 down"
21:49<user10>just one, but I think it already is configured as I was there (SSID). I should prolly pull the wirED plug and see if I stay connected
21:49<TCW>babaehm... why?
21:49<TCW>babilen, even
21:49<babilen>user10: Hang on and answer my questions please :)
21:50<user10>just one network
21:50<user10>looking up wiki now
21:50<babilen>user10: Ok, given that you only connect to a single network I wouldn't personally bother with network-manager and just configure it in /etc/network/interfaces as detailed in
21:51<user10>ahh - back in MY domain, servers. can't stand laptios
21:51<user10>laptops too
21:51<babilen>user10: You can then run "ifup wlan0" and it should connect to that network. Further information can be found in /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/README.Debian.gz (you want "Managed Mode" for a single connection)
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21:53<TCW>I find it kinda hard to carry my desktops around... so I tend to use laptops for that, but that may not apply to all fols :)
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22:19<user10>Starting Network connection manager: wicd failed!
22:19<user10>still working through the wiki, but this popped up
22:20<TCW>user10, why wicd when you said you'd use the gnome tool?
22:21<TCW>you'll even
22:21<user10>gnome tool looks all fine and well, but wlan0 not performing sans wire. making interfaces changes now, and adding packages suggested by the wiki
22:21<TCW>what packages?
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22:22<TCW>user10, what was / is the problem with the gnome tool? It is called "network-manager" btw.
22:22<TCW>that is a "non gui" approach...
22:23<TCW>neither network-manager nor wicd needed for that
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22:25<hehe>Boy do I hate my Lenovo z575. I can't get audio working Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller (rev 01) or its wireless card rt3090.... linux noob here :(
22:26<biologolunar>user10: wicd to do its job, you have to put in preferences, the name of the interface, wlan0
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22:27<user10>preferences WHERE?
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22:28<biologolunar>I do not remember the name of the button
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22:30<metaspike>im missing a driver, so i try to compile from, and I get "fatal error: dvb-usb.h: no such file or directory" . this displeases me much, why is this? i have linux headers. why no compile! :(
22:30<TCW>user10, it seems you are kinda lost... why don't you stick with ONE solution and try to fix that?
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22:32<TCW>hehe, lspci please, paste that to a paste service (I'd suggest
22:32<TCW>metaspike, use to search for the package that has that missing file in it
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22:37<metaspike>nope. it's hopeless.
22:39<TCW>metaspike, how so?
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22:41<metaspike>cannot find "usb-dvb.h" inside package contents. or the chipset name.
22:41<metaspike>and i'm no, driver code-man
22:43<TCW>it should be in the kernel
22:43<TCW>but I can't find it either *scratches head*
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22:45<user10>wicd preference button - found it and it did NOT have a wireless interface (wlan0) entered. I gave it one and it sees the network but still won
22:45<TCW>metaspike, ls -l /usr/src/linux-source-`uname -r`/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/ please
22:46<user10>won't connect. may be network. checking. do I still have auto wlan0 in the interfaces file if I am using wics?
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22:49<user10>guys what goes in interfaces file if using wicd?
22:49<metaspike>it's not there at all im pretty sure... one sec
22:50<user10>bio: found area you spoke of, gave it wlan0, its better but still not connecting
22:52<biologolunar>looks like a module problem
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22:54<metaspike>TCW ^
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22:54<biologolunar>sorry me, excuse my ignorance, the AP is protected?
22:56<metaspike>kernel == hmm, dvb-usb.h is in there. pity the driver is not eh o_O
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23:09<user10>am i on?
23:10<user10>good, didn't think i was :-)
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23:11<user10>bio; TCW, babilen - thank you all for the help. WICD was the ticket and all issues seem resolved. concerned about too much stuff in my interfaces file, but will test. THANKS!
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23:22<biologolunar>AFK = Away from keyboard
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23:23<biologolunar>Not me, I'm still here
23:24<dpkg>screen is a terminal multiplexor, allowing you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add key bindings, scroll back, copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or are disconnected. See /usr/share/doc/screen/README.Debian and ask about <screen tutorial>, <byobu>. See to keep ctrl-a unbroken. #screen on
23:25<dpkg>tmux is a terminal multiplexer. It enables a number of terminals (or windows) to be accessed and controlled from a single terminal and is intended to be a simple, modern, BSD-licensed alternative to programs such as GNU <screen>.
23:26<biologolunar>je je, did not know tmux, which is better
23:26<biologolunar>a7ndrew: which is better, tmux or screen?
23:27<biologolunar>I do not like the license BSD
23:27<a7ndrew>I switched from screen to tmux because it handles vertical splits better. But that could be fixed in newer versions of screen. Tmux also lets you resize your splits (so ie one pane is occupying 70% of the screen and another 30%)
23:28<a7ndrew>Agree with you, prefer gpl usually, but I don't think its going to make a big difference with a project like tmux
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23:29<biologolunar>a7ndrew: ahh, now that's an interesting feature, I'll try this, thanks
23:30<biologolunar>vertical splits, mmmmh
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23:33<metaspike>*copies dependencies from kernel tree to source directory, derp
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23:33<Firdaus>how to confert many file PNG to a file pdf
23:35<Firdaus>biologolunar: ?
23:35<biologolunar>Firdaus: test package gscan2pdf
23:36<biologolunar>Firdaus: you want to convert each image to a separate pdf?
23:36<Firdaus>biologolunar: yes ...
23:36<biologolunar>or, all images into one PDF?
23:36<Firdaus>all image into one PDF
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23:37<Firdaus>biologolunar: how it ?
23:39<biologolunar>install gscan2pdf from repositories debian
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23:39<biologolunar>gscan2pdf is a GUI, graphic interface
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23:42<biologolunar>Firdaus: Once installed, you import your images, then save
23:42<biologolunar>Firdaus: these functions are in the file menu
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23:43<Firdaus>oh biologolunar : l use Wheezy
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23:45<biologolunar>Firdaus: ahh, ok. gscan2pdf no esta en el repo de wheezy
23:45<biologolunar>sorry, Firdaus ahh, ok. gscan2pdf not in the repo wheezy
23:45<Firdaus>yes :) l use wheezy
23:45<biologolunar>I crossed the wires with the language
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23:47<biologolunar>Firdaus: try ImageMagick
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23:49<biologolunar>Firdaus: install imagemagick from repositories debian
23:50<Firdaus>yes. how to use it ?
23:50<Firdaus>l has been install :)
23:51<biologolunar>use convert command
23:51<Firdaus>you can give example to me
23:51<biologolunar>Firdaus: example, convert imagen.jpg imagen.pdf
23:51<biologolunar>or, convert *.png output.pdf
23:52<biologolunar>Firdaus: must use the console, you know?
23:54<biologolunar>Firdaus: preferably, the images must have a common name, but in numerical sequence a suffix, for example
23:57<a7ndrew>Firdaus: you may also want to take a look at scribus, which is a gui package which can export to pdf. I haven't used it myself, so I can't tell you exactly how it works.
23:57<biologolunar>yes, wery well
23:57<dpkg>Scribus is an open source, cross-platform desktop publishing application. It can produce commerical grade output in PDF and PostScript. #scribus on
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23:59<biologolunar>a7ndrew: I use scribus last week to make a poster, really, is excellent
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23:59<Firdaus>biologolunar: my laptob is crash while convert it
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