| --- | Log | opened Wed Mar 07 00:00:03 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Mar 07 2012 |
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| 01:27 | <hate29> | Does anyone know about wheezy mp4 playback? I installed it yesterday and totem is unable to play mp4 -files. Also there's no thumbnails of them. Mplayer and vlc plays them fine |
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| 02:03 | <ayaka> | can i place /etc and /usr in the same partition, but not the same partition as / |
| 02:03 | <Ganneff> | /etc you WANT on / |
| 02:03 | <Ganneff> | and i dont think splitting it is supported |
| 02:03 | <zlynx> | yes i agree .. |
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| 02:12 | <ayaka> | no no, they can be mount on / |
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| 02:13 | <ayaka> | but save in different partition |
| 02:13 | <sney> | trust Ganneff, he knows |
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| 02:14 | <ayaka> | sney you means he underdtand what i meant? |
| 02:15 | <sney> | nobody here is ever 100% sure they understand what you mean, ayaka |
| 02:15 | <sney> | but: |
| 02:15 | <sney> | you don't want /etc on a separate partition, and that wouldn't make sense anyway |
| 02:16 | <ayaka> | sney, i am so sorry for my bad english |
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| 02:17 | <ayaka> | because i want to use the mobile emmc to place debian, it has a partition for /system in android, i want to use it place /usr and /etc in debian |
| 02:18 | <ayaka> | i don't want to to regparted, because i don't know where is hboot saved |
| 02:18 | * | sney shrug |
| 02:18 | <sney> | I'm sure there's an android development channel that would have better info |
| 02:19 | <ayaka> | that is my meanings |
| 02:19 | <ayaka> | sney the problem is debian, can i place /etc /usr in the same partition |
| 02:19 | <ayaka> | but not in / |
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| 02:20 | <ayaka> | i mean that |
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| 02:20 | <jm_> | like already explained - no for /etc |
| 02:20 | <ayaka> | i see, thank you |
| 02:20 | <sney> | and the closest thing to what you're asking would probably be lvm |
| 02:21 | <sney> | but I doubt you can implement that sanely on a phone |
| 02:21 | <ayaka> | thank you jm_ sney Ganneff |
| 02:21 | <ayaka> | next one, the interface is whose config? i know what is the used |
| 02:22 | <sney> | what? |
| 02:22 | <ayaka> | /etc/network/interface |
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| 02:23 | <ayaka> | is whose config |
| 02:24 | <sney> | !search |
| 02:24 | <dpkg> | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags> <dlocate>. |
| 02:24 | <ayaka> | which program will read it and use it |
| 02:25 | <ayaka> | sney in fact, it is the tittle of next question, i ask it because i don't know how to express next question |
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| 02:25 | <sney> | ayaka, really, you need to learn to look things up |
| 02:25 | <sney> | to read |
| 02:26 | <ayaka> | i have seen it |
| 02:26 | <sney> | but you have not understood |
| 02:26 | <sney> | read it again until you get it |
| 02:26 | <ayaka> | well i think i should ask next one |
| 02:27 | <ayaka> | if i don't see gw in the config, use ip or route to set gw is the same function? |
| 02:27 | <sney> | yes, it does not matter which one you use |
| 02:28 | <ayaka> | i see |
| 02:29 | <ayaka> | next one, if my wlan is recognized as eth, and it works, will it cause some problem |
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| 02:30 | <sney> | you contradicted yourself |
| 02:30 | <ayaka> | and if i don't set wlan driver as module, but build in, can i shutdown wlan? |
| 02:31 | <sney> | you can always turn off interfaces with ifup/ifdown |
| 02:31 | <ayaka> | sney just unsure |
| 02:31 | <jm_> | or use something like rfkill if driver supports it |
| 02:31 | <Phoenix> | ayaka: you can try using lvm. |
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| 02:32 | <OceanSpray> | hi sney |
| 02:32 | <sney> | hi karl. |
| 02:33 | <ayaka> | sney is it really off, don't give it any power |
| 02:33 | <sney> | ayaka, I'm going to bed, any more questions you can ask OceanSpray |
| 02:33 | <OceanSpray> | NO |
| 02:33 | <ayaka> | sney thank you |
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| 02:35 | <ayaka> | then question is whether ipdown will shutdown a device completly |
| 02:36 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you |
| 02:37 | <Phoenix> | it should shut down TCP, in fact. |
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| 02:37 | <jm_> | ayaka: no worries |
| 02:37 | <Phoenix> | i don't think TCP uses anything else but IP. |
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| 02:37 | <ayaka> | jm_ but wlan is a radio which do harm on you |
| 02:37 | <jm_> | ayaka: so don't use it ;) |
| 02:38 | <ayaka> | Phoenix but i want device shutdown not only software layer |
| 02:38 | <Phoenix> | it doesn't come to use if the software didn't work. |
| 02:39 | <ayaka> | jm_ seriously, i don't want to affect my sleep |
| 02:39 | <ayaka> | Phoenix but it still waste power |
| 02:39 | <jm_> | ayaka: rfkill switch is used for this |
| 02:39 | <Phoenix> | shut off then. |
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| 02:39 | <jm_> | ayaka: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/rfkill.txt |
| 02:40 | <ayaka> | jm_ but i don't know whether it is supported |
| 02:40 | <jm_> | ayaka: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Power_Management_Guide/RFKill.html |
| 02:40 | <jm_> | ayaka: well try it then |
| 02:40 | * | Phoenix wanders off |
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| 02:43 | <ayaka> | jm_ i will search src, btw does all the drivers from kernel.org support it? |
| 02:45 | <jm_> | ayaka: I have no idea |
| 02:46 | <ayaka> | jm_ Phoenix thank you |
| 02:46 | <Phoenix> | mm hmm. |
| 02:46 | <ayaka> | then next one, about arm toolchain, i should ask here or in debian arm |
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| 02:55 | <ayaka> | ok i ask, which toolchain for arm do you recommand |
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| 03:03 | <nyov> | where do I put a font file for grub-efi, so that update-grub finds it and configures grub for gfxterm output? or is the script broken for efi setups? |
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| 03:05 | <jm_> | for non-efi it loads fonts with full path, i.e. "set root='...", "search blabla" followed by "if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then ..." |
| 03:06 | <nyov> | yeah, that works nicely. but I can't figure out what it does or doesn't here on my efi setup |
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| 03:09 | <jm_> | perhaps set debug= will show more info about what's going on |
| 03:09 | <nyov> | all I could figure out from the script was that it looks for the font file and only configures the video stuff when it is found |
| 03:09 | <nyov> | jm_: debug where? |
| 03:09 | <jm_> | nyov: set debug=all |
| 03:10 | <nyov> | but what |
| 03:10 | <nyov> | is that for update-grub? |
| 03:10 | <Phoenix> | omg. it peels. |
| 03:10 | <jm_> | no it's for grub.cfg |
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| 03:11 | <nyov> | eh, I know what's wrong there. i have to manually do insmod efi_gop; terminal_output gfxterm on the grub console |
| 03:11 | <Phoenix> | do et den. |
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| 03:12 | <nyov> | and I can manually fix grub.cfg but there is this big disclaimer DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE |
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| 03:13 | <jm_> | you need to modify the files in /etc/grub.d and update-grub will pick them up - or better yet, add custom one |
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| 03:20 | <nyov> | can I just disable automatic grub updates, so it doesn't kill my grub.cfg? those scripts look all alien to me |
| 03:20 | <ayaka> | if i install debian, it will auto recognize whether use grun-efi or grub for biso cersion? |
| 03:20 | <ayaka> | if i install debian, it will auto recognize whether use grun-efi or grub for bios version? |
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| 03:23 | <nyov> | heh. /usr/share/doc/ grub-efi -> grub-common :D |
| 03:23 | <jm_> | updates are usually called when new kernels are installed and one can do that via kernel-img.conf AFAIK |
| 03:23 | <nyov> | no wonder ther is nothing about efi in the examples/ dir |
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| 03:31 | <nyov> | I remember that one. but it looks like it's gone in wheezy. ok, I'll do this one the nasty way then :p |
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| 03:32 | <nyov> | ayaka: no idea if the debian installer figures it out. I did a debootstrap and had to manually install grub-efi. grub-pc gets installed by default |
| 03:33 | <ayaka> | nyov i ser, if it's grub-pc, then efi or uefi mainboard can't boot it, can it? |
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| 03:34 | <nyov> | depends if you have a fake mbr on the gpt partition, but usually not |
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| 03:36 | <nyov> | indeed it was quite a workout to get it booting the first time I did it |
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| 03:37 | <ayaka> | nyov thank you |
| 03:38 | <jm_> | is the POST procedure any faster with an EFI motherboard compared to BIOS? |
| 03:39 | <nyov> | not on this box. it's actually taking longer to get to the POST |
| 03:39 | <jm_> | heh |
| 03:39 | <jm_> | which motherboard manufacturer if I may ask? |
| 03:40 | <nyov> | asus. crosshair V mobo |
| 03:40 | <ayaka> | i don't know much about efi, i will some questions |
| 03:40 | <jm_> | ok thank you for the info - I was thinking of going with asus next time, but if it's slower than I'll probably pass |
| 03:41 | <nyov> | but an amazing uefi "bios" |
| 03:41 | <ayaka> | does efi has two part, one is installed in hard disk while the tiny one installed in mainboard rom? |
| 03:41 | <ayaka> | i hear that in a chinese magezine |
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| 03:42 | <jm_> | yeah the interface sure does look neat |
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| 03:42 | <Phoenix> | jm_: should pass as elitegroup. |
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| 03:42 | <jm_> | Phoenix: what do you mean? |
| 03:43 | <ayaka> | jm_ but how do you boot a disk big than 1T |
| 03:43 | <jm_> | ayaka: my gigabyte board has BIOS and has no such limitation due to their hybrid boot mode |
| 03:44 | <ayaka> | jm_ gigabyte is what? |
| 03:45 | <ayaka> | and does efi just a program different from bios, there is no different in hardware |
| 03:45 | <jm_> | ayaka: http://www.gigabyte.com/index.aspx |
| 03:46 | <jm_> | more or less yes |
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| 03:47 | <nyov> | when I have some time i'll try coreboot here. maybe that makes it faster ;) |
| 03:47 | <ayaka> | jm_ i see, it looks like foreigners prefer taiwan mainboard |
| 03:48 | <jm_> | ayaka: they are the only ones left still making motherboards outside of server business |
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| 03:48 | <ayaka> | so if mainboard company like they can update bios to efi |
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| 03:49 | <ayaka> | jm_ can you tell me some about serve hardware and recommand companies in offtopic |
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| 03:49 | <jm_> | ayaka: nope, I don't deal with those |
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| 03:51 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you all the samr |
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| 03:51 | <ayaka> | i don't know any hardware company which is famous in serve |
| 03:53 | <jm_> | tyan supermicro intel |
| 03:54 | <jm_> | asus also has some server boards etc. |
| 03:55 | <jm_> | (this is obviously only relevant for x86 world) |
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| 03:56 | <ayaka> | jm_ as i know besides only powerpc arch |
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| 03:57 | <ayaka> | mips can be used in router and switch but not serve |
| 03:57 | <jm_> | there's sparc and itanic |
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| 03:59 | <ayaka> | sparc, is it the one belong to sun? |
| 03:59 | <jm_> | yes |
| 03:59 | <ayaka> | itanic?is it the one intel won't produce any more |
| 03:59 | <jm_> | yup, itanium |
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| 04:00 | <ayaka> | sparc is the same like itanic |
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| 04:01 | <ayaka> | but sadness debian don't support powerpc 64 |
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| 04:05 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you |
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| 04:14 | <gan> | how to make the canon MF4450scanner detection in debian , is there any package ? |
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| 04:15 | <streuner> | judd, info sane |
| 04:15 | <judd> | Package sane (graphics, optional) in squeeze/i386: scanner graphical frontends. Version: 1.0.14-9; Size: 105.4k; Installed: 324k |
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| 04:16 | <streuner> | gan, please take a look at the sane website too, if its supported or not. Usually the kernel logs the result when connected... |
| 04:17 | <jm_> | it doesn't list this model directly, but some canon ones are supported |
| 04:17 | <streuner> | well, in this case i would search at google/usenet |
| 04:17 | <gan> | streuner, it is not detected but printing is coming .. |
| 04:18 | <gan> | streuner, i am unable to do scan but printing is done |
| 04:18 | <streuner> | gan, oh, a multi-device? take a look at linux-printing.org too then |
| 04:18 | <gan> | linux-printing.org gives ppd for printer only |
| 04:19 | <gan> | streuner, could you give the sane site |
| 04:19 | <streuner> | gan, sorry, linuxprinting.org |
| 04:19 | <jm_> | !tell gan -about sane |
| 04:19 | <streuner> | gan, listen what already jm_ told us |
| 04:19 | <gan> | streuner, ok , it gives only ppd |
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| 04:20 | <streuner> | gan, if the device is supported, linuxprinting.org usually say a word about scanning too |
| 04:20 | <streuner> | its supported or not |
| 04:21 | <gan> | jm_, how to make the scanner detection in debian for the model mf4550 |
| 04:21 | <gan> | streuner, it is not supported |
| 04:21 | <gan> | streuner, is any lib nedd to install |
| 04:21 | <nyov> | maybe here? http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Software/Linux/i-SENSYS/i-SENSYS_LINUX_SUPPORT.asp |
| 04:21 | <jm_> | gan: I have no idea, I never used a scanner in linux but I bet sane web page has docs etc. |
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| 04:22 | <gan> | jm_, could you tell the website |
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| 04:22 | <jm_> | gan: dpkg the bot told you already, it sent you a private message |
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| 04:22 | <jm_> | it also mentioned sane related IRC channel |
| 04:23 | <gan> | jm_, thanks |
| 04:23 | <jm_> | gan: no worries |
| 04:23 | <gan> | jm_, checking now from links |
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| 04:23 | <ayaka> | by scaning, i hear that it in foreign, they don't use usb only use scsi |
| 04:24 | <streuner> | gan, http://de.software.canon-europe.com/products/0010970.asp |
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| 04:24 | <gan> | streuner, thanks , checking |
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| 04:25 | <streuner> | gan, it seems to me, Canon provides some Linux driver for that model |
| 04:25 | <streuner> | gan, in order to use with CUPS |
| 04:25 | <gan> | streuner, could you give me that driver to install |
| 04:26 | <streuner> | no |
| 04:26 | <streuner> | just buy an HP, done :-) |
| 04:27 | <gan> | streuner, not getting |
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| 04:27 | <streuner> | very easy to use, just plug the device into the port and everything is supported, printing and scanning :-) |
| 04:29 | <gan> | it is not happening .. only printing is coming |
| 04:29 | <streuner> | well, multidevices arent well supported in Linux, an exeption is HP |
| 04:29 | <gan> | streuner, already sane pkg is installed in my system |
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| 04:30 | <freezer> | streuner, where have you been? |
| 04:30 | <freezer> | i thought you are dead |
| 04:31 | <streuner> | gan, two options, sane supports your device or the manufator itself |
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| 04:31 | <streuner> | manufactor* |
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| 04:31 | <gan> | streuner, if not detected what i have to do ? |
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| 04:32 | <streuner> | we told you, look at the manufactor website if they provide a driver |
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| 04:33 | <streuner> | or better, just sell the device and buy something which is supported, IMO |
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| 04:35 | <abdulkarim> | has anyone here been able to play .rm media files on SID? |
| 04:36 | <abdulkarim> | i tried downloading w64codecs but all i see is a black screen when i open them in VLC/Player/MediaPlayer |
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| 04:40 | <ayaka> | a solution, A and B with firewall, C is open, A want to connect to B, so A connect to C then B connect to, does ssh tunnel can do that, follow A's 4000 to C' 8100, then follow C's 8100 to B's 4200 |
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| 04:40 | <ayaka> | a solution, A and B with firewall, C is open, A want to connect to B, so A connect to C then B connect to C , does ssh tunnel can do that, follow A's 4000 to C' 8100, then follow C's 8100 to B's 4200 |
| 04:42 | <fasta> | ayaka: yes |
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| 04:45 | <ayaka> | fasta so A use -R 4000:localhost:8100 opinon, while B use -L4200:localhost:8100 |
| 04:45 | <ayaka> | fasta so A use -R4000:localhost:8100 opinon, while B use -L4200:localhost:8100 |
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| 04:47 | <fasta> | ayaka: you can configure all this stuff on one machine. |
| 04:47 | <fasta> | ayaka: all you need is a right configuration file, which I won't be able to help you with. |
| 04:47 | <fasta> | ayaka: the ports need to be open for ssh, but that's it. |
| 04:48 | <fasta> | ayaka: this is documented widely on the Internet. |
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| 04:53 | <ayaka> | fasta but A can't visit B directly, both behind nat |
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| 05:00 | <hanfa> | halo |
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| 05:08 | <fr3ak> | What is the most efficient archiving mechanism for backup? I want to minimise the amount of load generated when regularly backing up files on my server but even using zip -0 (to just store the files) the load goes through the roof and my websites become unresponsive, I've tried setting the nice value and using cpulimit but nothing seems to really help. |
| 05:08 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: zip??? |
| 05:08 | <petemc> | backup to another disk/machine ? |
| 05:09 | <jm_> | that's probably related to I/O and not CPU usage |
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| 05:09 | <nevyn> | backup from another machine |
| 05:09 | <nevyn> | yeah |
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| 05:09 | <Phoenix> | gonna sleep soon. |
| 05:09 | <fr3ak> | You mean via rsync or something? I could but the backups involve large databases as well which would be inefficient I believe |
| 05:10 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: replicate the db to another box using log shipping then backup the other box. |
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| 05:10 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: I actually have storage arrays that can do this sort of crazy disk crap behind the scenes. but if io from backups is screwing your performance. |
| 05:10 | <fr3ak> | nevyn,: I've tried tar,gzip and all the rest, zip was better than the others |
| 05:11 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: tar should be way faster than zip and lighter. |
| 05:11 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: and faster in your case will be worse |
| 05:11 | <fr3ak> | hmmm true I didn't try without gzipping at the same time |
| 05:11 | <nevyn> | so you're evaulation has probably found the application worst at reading data off disk |
| 05:12 | <nevyn> | if you're evaluating it based on the impact on responsiveness |
| 05:12 | <fr3ak> | yes indeed :)\ |
| 05:12 | <nevyn> | just because you measured something doesn't mean it means what you think it means |
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| 05:13 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: I'd use tar and ionice |
| 05:13 | <nevyn> | you'd need to install ionice |
| 05:13 | <nevyn> | for the database are you using lvm? |
| 05:14 | <fr3ak> | ionice isn't a package |
| 05:14 | <nevyn> | ummm... |
| 05:14 | <jm_> | it's a command |
| 05:14 | <fr3ak> | right got ya |
| 05:14 | <jm_> | you probably have it installed already |
| 05:14 | <fr3ak> | yep surely do |
| 05:14 | <nevyn> | it's in util-linux |
| 05:14 | <jm_> | :) |
| 05:15 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: so don't find the thing that's crap at the job because you want to manage io utilisation |
| 05:15 | <nevyn> | find the thing that's good at the job and just manage it better ;) |
| 05:16 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: the other thing is what's the disk subsystem and which ioscheduler are you using? |
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| 05:16 | <nevyn> | are you using md/lvm etc? |
| 05:16 | <fr3ak> | not LVM |
| 05:16 | <nevyn> | that's unfortunate |
| 05:16 | <fr3ak> | I have a RAID1 setup |
| 05:16 | <fr3ak> | software |
| 05:16 | <jm_> | that also contributes to it then |
| 05:16 | <nevyn> | so you have raid1 but no lvm? |
| 05:17 | <fr3ak> | correct |
| 05:17 | <nevyn> | you understand lvm is really useful for doing stuff like backing up databases right? |
| 05:17 | <fr3ak> | How so? |
| 05:17 | <fr3ak> | and actually the RAID setup was only as of last night |
| 05:17 | <nevyn> | because you can put the db inhotbackup snapshot the lvm then backup the snapshot. |
| 05:18 | <nevyn> | total time in hotbackup to get a consistant db backup 2 minutes |
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| 05:18 | <nevyn> | then it doesn't matter how long it takes to get the snapshot off the system to long term storage |
| 05:18 | <fr3ak> | Yeah I guess that makes sense, I was thinking it was a cpu problem not IO so I guess I can have other considerations now |
| 05:19 | <nevyn> | as long as it's not more than 24hrs |
| 05:19 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: cpu problems are incredibly rare in my world. I hit io limits ALL the time. |
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| 05:20 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: also think about consistancy of backups. quiessing databases, if you need to keep some filesystem and database state together (I have a couple of systems that need this. it's PAINFUL) |
| 05:20 | <fr3ak> | Yeah I didn't get it as the system normally runs at <1 load but during backup hits >8 |
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| 05:20 | <petemc> | io causes load to rise |
| 05:20 | <petemc> | its not hard to get |
| 05:20 | <nevyn> | particularly IOwait |
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| 05:21 | <nevyn> | hrm does iowait count in the runqueue? |
| 05:21 | <nevyn> | I didn't think it did. |
| 05:21 | <fr3ak> | I'm not so worried about the synchronisation, if I lose a few records here or there it's not the biggest drama in the world, the only person I have to answer to is myself ;) |
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| 05:22 | <fr3ak> | but ionice looks 'nice' if you'll excuse the pun and I think I'll move back to tar |
| 05:22 | <jm_> | it's runq + processes waiting on I/O |
| 05:22 | <nevyn> | oh. |
| 05:23 | <nevyn> | so iowait and runnable. |
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| 05:24 | <jm_> | yeah that's why it's easy to see loads in hundreds when usign nfs |
| 05:24 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: how big is the database? |
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| 05:26 | <fr3ak> | there are 5, biggest one is >3GB |
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| 05:26 | <fr3ak> | I'm so proud ;) |
| 05:27 | <nevyn> | fr3ak: so here's a thought exercise... |
| 05:27 | <nevyn> | at 100mb/s (which is a really nice io rate. on commodity gear it's more like 20-30mb/s but let's say 100 it makes the math easier |
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| 05:28 | <fr3ak> | !eco |
| 05:28 | <dpkg> | well, eco is eeeeco eeeco eco |
| 05:29 | <nevyn> | but given you're writing to the same spindles and limiting the iorate with ionice let's say 10mb/s |
| 05:29 | <nevyn> | your database takes 5 minutes to be copied |
| 05:29 | <nevyn> | in 5 minutes an aweful lot in your db may have changed. |
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| 05:30 | <fr3ak> | AH but actually I have my backup script remove the site affected by the backup from the sites-enabled in nginx |
| 05:30 | <fr3ak> | so actually there is very little being written AND the backup is only set to update into the zip |
| 05:31 | <fr3ak> | i.e. I have a permanent site backup zip and a permanent db backup zip and the script only freshens/updates |
| 05:31 | <fr3ak> | so it's actually a lot less than 3GB as most of the files don't change |
| 05:32 | <nevyn> | is it a monolithic database file? |
| 05:32 | <fr3ak> | no |
| 05:32 | <fr3ak> | mysql |
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| 05:32 | <fr3ak> | I backup the actual files |
| 05:33 | <fr3ak> | I had some problems with binary fields getting screwed up sometimes so I just dump the actually database files instead for 4 of my databases, the other I use mysql dump for |
| 05:34 | <fr3ak> | I have 5 sites and they are in a while loop backing up sequentially, they start at 3:30pm and finish by 4:15 most days with cpulimit at 10% |
| 05:35 | <fr3ak> | perhaps though I should remove the cpulimit and just set the ionice and that will do it, I guess I'll see in 4 hours :) |
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| 05:41 | <fr3ak> | Anyway, thanks for your help, have a nice day |
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| 05:51 | <ayaka> | fasta thank you |
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| 05:52 | <omry> | anyone knows of a java 7 jdk deb for squeeze? |
| 05:54 | <themill> | openjdk-7 is packaged for wheezy onwards; I don't know of anything for squeeze |
| 05:54 | <omry> | I am trying to build the deb on squeeze, I wonder if it really does need g++ 4.6 |
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| 05:56 | <themill> | ,checkbackport openjdk-7 |
| 05:57 | <judd> | Backporting package openjdk-7 in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: g++-4.6, librhino-java (>= 1.7R3~). |
| 05:57 | <omry> | and lcms2 |
| 05:57 | <omry> | trying with whatever is available on squeeze |
| 05:58 | <omry> | gcc 4.4, rhino 1.7R2 etc |
| 05:58 | <themill> | I imagine you'll need to adapt the installation paths to non-multiarch paths too. There's going to be a lot of work in this... |
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| 05:59 | <omry> | hmm, major changes between squeeze and testing? |
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| 06:00 | <ayaka> | how to clean all the cache |
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| 06:03 | <omry> | themill, ever heard of "system gio" ? |
| 06:04 | <omry> | some strange dependency not in the control file. |
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| 06:04 | <themill> | nope |
| 06:04 | <omry> | configure as helpful as ever : --enable-system-gio use the system GIO [default=yes] |
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| 06:06 | <omry> | it seems to be : GIO - GLib Input, Output and Streaming Library |
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| 06:52 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a channel (or Jabber chat room) supporting openfire and/or spectrum? |
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| 06:53 | <nocturnal> | there's an #openfire on freenode |
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| 06:56 | <EmleyMoor> | Giving it a try... |
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| 06:58 | <omry> | how can I list all the packages the depends (in directly as well) on a package? |
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| 07:01 | <SynrG> | like apt-rdepends? |
| 07:02 | <SynrG> | also, see 'aptitude why' |
| 07:02 | <SynrG> | it depends (no pun intended) on what your actual goal is. are you trying to see if anything needs a package anymore? |
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| 07:04 | <SynrG> | omry: anyway, i think 'apt-rdepends -r' probably provides the most useful output |
| 07:04 | <ayaka> | Is there any desktop or i should say session mamage support framebuffer |
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| 07:06 | <SynrG> | ayaka: are you still beating your head against that wall? i think debian-on-android (or whatever it is you're trying to accomplish ... i forget) is probably beyond the scope of this channel. |
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| 07:08 | <ayaka> | SynrG yes and i have completed kernel, but i don't ask that, fb can be also used in pc |
| 07:08 | <SynrG> | in any case, I don't see why the desktop or session manager should care about framebuffer. that's too high a level of abstraction to care about such low-level things. |
| 07:08 | <SynrG> | afaik, xorg has its own framebuffer driver, fbdev. then WMs just talk to xorg and don't care about what driver xorg uses. |
| 07:09 | <SynrG> | as for a WM that runs directly on framebuffer without xorg in the middle (if that's what you're asking) i have no idea about that. |
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| 07:09 | <jm_> | or you could use http://my20percent.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/android-x-server/ :) |
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| 07:10 | <ayaka> | SynrG htc really release all the src, even video accelerate works well |
| 07:10 | <ayaka> | jm_ sorry blocked by GFW |
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| 07:10 | <SynrG> | ayaka: try http://code.google.com/p/android-xserver/ |
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| 07:11 | <ayaka> | SynrG i mean use it directly |
| 07:11 | <SynrG> | right, well ... i know of very few X apps that are written to run on anything but X |
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| 07:12 | <javier> | hi |
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| 07:12 | <SynrG> | i imagine the architectural differences between X and running directly on a framebuffer are too great for it to make sense to make a piece of software work on both. |
| 07:13 | <Van> | config :debian/wheezy +Ati driver (HD ones) after installing wheezy and video driver from the repository my monitor cant be detected by default, everytime i select apply reboot , back again same thing --- please help-- thanks you |
| 07:13 | <ayaka> | SynrG i see, thank you, but how do you say the word session manage deyong X |
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| 07:13 | <SynrG> | ayaka: i don't understand |
| 07:13 | <Van> | video driver = propritory one not respository as they dont detect my video card |
| 07:14 | <SynrG> | Van: please see #debian-next for wheezy/sid support |
| 07:14 | <Van> | thanks |
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| 07:15 | <ayaka> | SynrG how do say the work session manger in fb solution, or fb don't have or need session manage |
| 07:16 | <SynrG> | you are mixing abstractions. a "session" is much too high level to care about fb. |
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| 07:19 | <ayaka> | SynrG session is the started by login and it start another program, isn't it |
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| 07:26 | <SynrG> | ayaka: why are you continuing to try to find solutions other than the standard one? just use android-xserver and be done with it. i think it's a waste of our time and yours to be looking at anything else. |
| 07:28 | <SynrG> | ayaka: from wikipedia "X session manager", "From the point of view of an X session manager, a session is a “state of the desktop” at a given time: a set of windows with their current content. More precisely, a session is the set of clients managing these windows or related to them and the information that allows these applications to restore the condition of these windows if required." |
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| 07:30 | <SynrG> | ayaka: given that a session only cares about this "state of the desktop", it should not care about how pixels are actually painted to the screen. you have to go down some level of abstractions until you arrive there. |
| 07:30 | <ayaka> | SynrG but after a little time, it is debian, and i always prefer better in computer |
| 07:30 | <SynrG> | ayaka: if you're asking "is there a pure Debian solution to running on Android" the answer is flat-out "no". so ... |
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| 07:31 | <SynrG> | pick your battles. implement it the way the rest of the world does, or wait until a pure debian solution exists. |
| 07:31 | <ayaka> | SynrG it's arm, not android |
| 07:31 | <ayaka> | SynrG remember i am not in chroot, so it's debian |
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| 07:32 | <SynrG> | no, i don't remember. i haven't been following your problem closely enough. sorry. |
| 07:32 | <ayaka> | SynrG sorry |
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| 07:33 | <petemc> | ayaka: how did you manage to get debian installed on your phone? |
| 07:33 | <SynrG> | anyway, do you get what i'm saying about sessions? sessions don't care about low-level stuff like framebuffers. |
| 07:34 | <ayaka> | petemc very easy just boot kernel and set root |
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| 07:34 | <ayaka> | SynrG i got it |
| 07:35 | <jm_> | i certainly plan to use something ready made on my raspberry pi - no worth all this time :) |
| 07:35 | <jm_> | not* |
| 07:36 | <petemc> | have you an order in for raspberry pi ? |
| 07:36 | <ayaka> | petemc if you like you can waste android and install debian on emmc |
| 07:37 | <petemc> | ayaka: no locked bootloader? |
| 07:37 | <jm_> | my bro knows a feller who lives in UK and ordered 2 so he offered one to him |
| 07:37 | <petemc> | thats the ticket |
| 07:38 | <ayaka> | petemc htc is a good company, it let you unlock it |
| 07:38 | <petemc> | do they? |
| 07:38 | <ayaka> | petemc htc is a good company, it allow you unlock it |
| 07:38 | <jm_> | nowadays they do, but in the past it was not so AFAIR |
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| 07:39 | <LordShiva> | Is the raspberrypi worth anything I mean it is fairly slow only good for programming and networking :) |
| 07:39 | <petemc> | eh? |
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| 07:39 | <petemc> | it does 1080 video |
| 07:39 | <jm_> | I plan to use it instead of my STB, so for video yeah |
| 07:39 | <LordShiva> | I mean it is not really multimedia solution for children |
| 07:40 | <petemc> | what? |
| 07:40 | <ayaka> | petemc wow 1080p |
| 07:40 | <petemc> | its a hella cheap low power computer |
| 07:40 | <LordShiva> | what is graphic card on it ?\ |
| 07:40 | <LordShiva> | Integrated what ? |
| 07:40 | <ayaka> | only $25, unbeliable |
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| 07:41 | <jm_> | from wiki page: Broadcom VideoCore IV,OpenGL ES 2.0,OpenVG 1080p30 H.264 high-profile encode/decode |
| 07:42 | <jm_> | previously I was looking at cubox but this is much cheaper, although it will require me to find a case, power supply and IR receiver on my own |
| 07:42 | <omry> | SynrG, thanks. |
| 07:42 | <ayaka> | petemc does it sell to foreign? it is much cheap than my mobile |
| 07:43 | <ayaka> | ; |
| 07:43 | <petemc> | im not sure, i have registered my interest but have yet to hear back |
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| 07:44 | <LordShiva> | beter to by AMD APU its cheap and hell of a good |
| 07:44 | <LordShiva> | I use it |
| 07:44 | <ayaka> | petemc it is really attached me |
| 07:44 | <LordShiva> | not that cheap |
| 07:44 | <jm_> | ayaka: they will but for nwo it's limited |
| 07:44 | <jm_> | yeah but how are graphics drivers for AMD CPU-s doing? i.e. brazos |
| 07:45 | <ayaka> | LordShiva $25=180 yuan ,apu is at least 2000 yuan |
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| 07:45 | <LordShiva> | APU is 68 $ |
| 07:45 | <LordShiva> | 60 - 68 $ |
| 07:46 | <LordShiva> | fglrx |
| 07:46 | <petemc> | the apu is a fully working computer? |
| 07:46 | <LordShiva> | is not bad ... |
| 07:46 | <ayaka> | LordShiva chinese prices is really high, it is very clear, not only in bad harmful vegetable |
| 07:46 | <LordShiva> | fire gl for x |
| 07:46 | <LordShiva> | is great driver |
| 07:47 | <LordShiva> | I have Xfce + Compiz |
| 07:47 | <LordShiva> | on my instalation Compiz with full effects desktop cube atlantis ... |
| 07:47 | <LordShiva> | and everything work under a 10 % of usage |
| 07:47 | <ayaka> | but it seems i have made channel offtopic, sorry |
| 07:48 | <LordShiva> | including local development apache php ... |
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| 07:49 | <LordShiva> | Apu 60 $ memory 4gb 40$ and that is full cpu ... |
| 07:49 | <LordShiva> | really good |
| 07:50 | <gaspard> | Hi there ! |
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| 07:51 | <gaspard> | join #debian-devel |
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| 07:55 | <ayaka> | jm_ what is IR? |
| 07:56 | <jm_> | ayaka: infra-red receiver |
| 07:56 | <ayaka> | jm_ the one is used from remote controller? |
| 07:57 | <jm_> | ayaka: it can detect a singal from a remote yes (see www.lirc.org) |
| 07:59 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you |
| 07:59 | <ayaka> | LordShiva,petemc,SynrG thank you |
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| 08:08 | <ayaka> | how to let fbterm start as default at tty |
| 08:08 | <jm_> | you can start it from inittab or via getty |
| 08:09 | <ayaka> | jm_ oh, i forget it thank you |
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| 08:10 | <ayaka> | then about otg, how to use it in debian |
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| 08:21 | <ayaka> | usb OTG |
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| 08:34 | <ayaka> | ok,next , is there vistual keyboard in terminal |
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| 08:40 | <binsec> | Hi all, how to configure a proxy with OpenBox ? |
| 08:40 | <babilen> | Isn't OpenBox a window manager? |
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| 08:41 | <binsec> | I know how to configure a proxy with Gnome, but not here |
| 08:42 | <jm_> | you'll need to do it per application or using gconf for apps that rely on that |
| 08:42 | <babilen> | binsec: I don't quite understand what you are referring to by "proxy" in the context of a window manager. What kind of proxy would you like to install/configure? |
| 08:42 | <babilen> | *sigh* |
| 08:42 | <binsec> | Ok, it's the same way to APT ? |
| 08:43 | <babilen> | binsec: You need to set a http proxy for apt? |
| 08:43 | <binsec> | babilen> TOR |
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| 08:43 | <binsec> | it's possible with APT ? |
| 08:43 | <babilen> | Sure - One second |
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| 08:44 | <petemc> | whats the point of installing debian packages via tor? |
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| 08:46 | <binsec> | I like to know how to get all the connections in TOR. For HTTP/FTP connections it's ok, but for example APT or Pidgin no |
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| 08:47 | <elcot_> | !nbd |
| 08:47 | <dpkg> | from memory, nbd is Network Block Device -- http://nbd.sf.net/ -- READ IT!! |
| 08:47 | <elcot_> | !tftp |
| 08:47 | <dpkg> | Trivial File Transer Protocol (TFTP) is an insecure protocol without authentication, designed for transferring small files to diskless clients. To establish a TFTP server on Squeeze and later releases, "aptitude install tftpd-hpa" and place content to be served in /srv/tftp. |
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| 08:47 | <babilen> | elcot_: Can we help you with anything? You can just "/msg dpkg" if you need access to factoids -- See also "/msg dpkg msgthebot" |
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| 08:48 | <babilen> | binsec: You can set a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf (Acquire::http::Proxy) -- See also "man apt.conf" |
| 08:48 | <elcot_> | babilen, i have set up a ltsp server.,in the client its booting till the login screen but not getting logged it |
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| 08:49 | <elcot_> | so i thought it should be some nbd-server error.,so looking for some good links |
| 08:49 | <elcot_> | any idea |
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| 08:50 | <binsec> | Ok thanks. There is not a global variable for any redirect? |
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| 09:01 | <EmleyMoor> | Any pros or cons anyone knows re prosody vs. ejabberd? |
| 09:02 | <Man_of_Wax> | when trying to engrave with a wand: "You cannot wipe out the message that is engraved in the floor here." |
| 09:02 | <Man_of_Wax> | why? |
| 09:02 | <EmleyMoor> | Man_of_Wax: Sorry? What are you on about? |
| 09:03 | <Man_of_Wax> | ELbereth wrote with a wand of magic missile and trasformed by a wand of poly |
| 09:03 | <EmleyMoor> | Man_of_Wax: That's as maybe - what's the context? |
| 09:03 | <babilen> | Man_of_Wax: Do you have a Debian related question we can help you with? You are probably looking for an off-topic chat channel such as #moocows (or a different network) |
| 09:03 | <Man_of_Wax> | lol wrong channel |
| 09:03 | <Man_of_Wax> | im' playing nethack |
| 09:03 | <Man_of_Wax> | I'm sorry |
| 09:03 | <Man_of_Wax> | :P |
| 09:04 | <babilen> | Man_of_Wax: hehe - have fun! :) |
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| 09:08 | <ayaka> | how to use otg in debian |
| 09:09 | <babilen> | ayaka: What is OTG? |
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| 09:09 | <ayaka> | babilen usb otg |
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| 09:10 | <babilen> | never used that |
| 09:11 | <ayaka> | babilen well i see |
| 09:12 | <ayaka> | then about gps, the link dpgk saying is outoftime |
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| 09:27 | <ayaka> | babilen thank you |
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| 09:40 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 510] by debhelper |
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| 09:44 | <ayaka> | i don't understand what debhelper, irc show mode +l 510 |
| 09:44 | <petemc> | to prevent join floods |
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| 09:45 | <ayaka> | petemc it means how many people can join here? |
| 09:45 | <petemc> | there are 494 nicks in here now |
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| 09:47 | <miguel> | buenas |
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| 09:47 | <ayaka> | petemc thank you |
| 09:47 | <petemc> | np |
| 09:47 | <miguel> | que tal? |
| 09:47 | <babilen> | !es |
| 09:47 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 09:47 | <ayaka> | miguel do you speak english |
| 09:47 | <miguel> | no |
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| 09:49 | <ayaka> | babilen i see many people use es, but what is its name in english |
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| 09:49 | <petemc> | spanish |
| 09:49 | <babilen> | Spanish? |
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| 09:50 | <ayaka> | i see |
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| 09:52 | <cesar> | lo ratone colorau |
| 09:53 | <babilen> | cesar: What? |
| 09:53 | <cesar> | noz |
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| 09:55 | <ayaka> | petemc, babilen thank you |
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| 11:16 | <Phoenix> | yowtf. |
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| 11:17 | <dirichlet> | /part |
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| 11:21 | <Phoenix> | gout. |
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| 11:36 | <dentifrice> | greetings; I can't get ssh key authentication to work within dropbear on a freshly installed Debian sid with dropbear v2012.55-1 and initramfs-tools 0.100, whereas it works fine on wheezy running machines (I need to remotely unlock a LUKS passphrase) |
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| 11:36 | <dentifrice> | for some reason, dropbear seems to not accept my pubkey, though I cheched that initrd.img does include /root/.ssh/authorized_keys with the required pubkey segment |
| 11:36 | <dentifrice> | it ends up asking for a password... |
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| 11:36 | <dentifrice> | s/wheezy/squeeze |
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| 11:36 | <Guest5391> | j #debian |
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| 11:37 | <kop> | dentifrice: Do the logs say anything, or ssh -v? |
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| 11:37 | <dentifrice> | kop: nothing too explicit, but I'm trying it again now |
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| 11:51 | <ljx7> | Hello, I am using slim and openbox. When opening a terminal (lxterminal for example) ==> it opens without utf-8 support |
| 11:52 | <ljx7> | can sombody try to help me? |
| 11:52 | <sney> | do you have a unicode locale? |
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| 11:52 | <sney> | what makes you think your terminal lacks utf8 support? |
| 11:52 | <ljx7> | yes, I can open uxterm and it works |
| 11:53 | <ljx7> | When typing german "Umlaute" äöü ==> ??? seeing just questionmarks |
| 11:53 | <ljx7> | when opening lxterminal from uxterm ==> it is ok |
| 11:54 | <ljx7> | the output from locale is in both terminals the same |
| 11:54 | <SynrG> | i have not been overly impressed with slim. i don't know what state it's in in squeeze |
| 11:54 | <SynrG> | it seems to mess up quite a lot of things in the environment |
| 11:54 | <SynrG> | if you substitute, say, gdm for slim, does lxterminal work as expected? |
| 11:54 | <ljx7> | hmm, maybe I cancheck with kdm or xdm |
| 11:55 | <SynrG> | xdm has its own deficiencies in other areas. i would not recommend it |
| 11:55 | <ljx7> | I would try, but then I am away from here :D |
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| 11:58 | <ljx7> | I will try with gdm. will be back in some minutes |
| 11:58 | <ljx7> | thanks |
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| 12:02 | <ljx7> | Hi, with gdm I have utf-8 in lxterminal |
| 12:03 | <ljx7> | thanks to SynrG and sney |
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| 12:03 | <babilen> | ljx7: wdm might be worth a look too, but just use gdm/gdm3 if you are happy with it. |
| 12:04 | <SynrG> | yay. well, until quality of slim improves i'm not really eager to give it a second look. sadly, that leaves almost no alternatives for a lightweight yet modern *dm |
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| 12:04 | <babilen> | slim really is buggy |
| 12:04 | <ljx7> | thanks, I will test wdm. |
| 12:05 | <SynrG> | most of the older ones don't set up sessions properly |
| 12:05 | <SynrG> | that probably includes wdm |
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| 12:07 | <babilen> | yeah |
| 12:07 | <babilen> | Or just use startx with a ~/.xsession that contains "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch FOO" (where FOO is something like awesomewm, gnome-session or so) |
| 12:08 | <ljx7> | at the moment, for me it's openbox-session |
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| 12:15 | <Phoenix> | ljx7: you looking for wm? |
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| 12:16 | <babilen> | ljx7: Login manager rather |
| 12:16 | <SynrG> | not sure if openbox-session covers everything ck-launch-session does |
| 12:17 | <cesar> | found new coh-hand-oh : (·)(·) |
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| 12:18 | -!- | mode/#debian [+q *!*@17.102.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com] by babilen |
| 12:18 | <babilen> | cesar: Please take it to a different channel - This is Debian's official support channel and you are quite off-topic here. |
| 12:18 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o babilen] by babilen |
| 12:19 | <ljx7> | what is ck-launch-session? |
| 12:19 | <Maulkin> | .oO(It's not official, I think...) |
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| 12:21 | <ljx7> | found on archlinux wiki: To prevent nm-applet dbus errors, edit ~/.xinitrc and change "exec openbox-session" to "exec ck-launch-session openbox-session". |
| 12:22 | <babilen> | ljx7: I would read the manpage for both ck-launch-session and dbus-launch -- In a nutshell: They make sure that consolekit and dbus are initialised correctly |
| 12:22 | <ljx7> | ok, thanks |
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| 12:23 | <SynrG> | otherwise bits of your desktop that interact with other bits will probably be lost |
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| 12:23 | <dani> | ola |
| 12:23 | <SynrG> | since things increasingly are "desktop-aware" it's a good idea to use it even if you only want a plain WM |
| 12:24 | <dani> | ola |
| 12:24 | <babilen> | !es-social dani |
| 12:24 | <dpkg> | dani: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
| 12:24 | <dani> | k?? |
| 12:25 | <SynrG> | oh, fun. deprecated already: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit |
| 12:25 | <dani> | no se mu bien el ingles |
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| 12:26 | <dani> | ola?? |
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| 12:27 | <dani> | ola |
| 12:27 | <SynrG> | !ops dani won't take our polite hint |
| 12:27 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: synrg complains about: dani won't take our polite hint |
| 12:27 | <dani> | ay algien ahiii||||| |
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| 13:16 | <canaima> | hola |
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| 13:17 | <retrospectacus> | hello! |
| 13:17 | <canaima> | hello |
| 13:17 | <canaima> | como estas |
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| 13:20 | <ergalvao> | Greetings. I need to config my ssh to connect to a host (github, actually) using a specific, non-default identity file, so I made this ~/.ssh/config file Is there something missing? |
| 13:21 | <ergalvao> | oops, the link to the config file: http://pastebin.com/zXTus44Q |
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| 13:22 | <Phoenix> | what's so gr3at about that paste? |
| 13:22 | <retrospectacus> | you can use ssh -i ~/foo/bar github.com |
| 13:22 | <ergalvao> | retrospectacus: yes, I did that, actually, but I need to use git with that identity file by default |
| 13:22 | <ergalvao> | and AFAIK git doens't have an option like that |
| 13:23 | <ergalvao> | *doesn't |
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| 13:23 | <kop> | ergalvao: It has the GIT_SSH env variable. |
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| 13:24 | <retrospectacus> | ergalvao: the config file might work too, are you haveing a problem with it? |
| 13:24 | <ergalvao> | kop: I didn't knew that |
| 13:25 | <kop> | ergalvao: I didn't either, but I'm quick with man pages. :) |
| 13:25 | <ergalvao> | kop: I'm not (lol) |
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| 13:25 | <ergalvao> | :) |
| 13:25 | <kop> | ergalvao: "man less" is all it takes. :) |
| 13:25 | <ergalvao> | retrospectacus: yes, but I actually just received an e-mail from github that I need to audit my ssh keys in orther to proceed, so may that's the actual problem |
| 13:26 | <ergalvao> | or... maybe not. It says my keys are ok |
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| 13:27 | <ergalvao> | retrospectacus: thing is, when I try the recommended ssh test with github after editing my .ssh/config I keep getting a timeout |
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| 13:27 | <sammy> | so I'm trying to install all simple like. grub says it installs with no issues, but its not actually changing anything in my boot loader. the old bootloader comes up when I reboot. |
| 13:28 | <EmleyMoor> | Some crap Jabber clients about :-( |
| 13:28 | <sammy> | managed to reboot into the installer again, get a shell, chroot to the new install and re-run update-grub and grub-install /device - but no luck. no errors reported, but nothing changes. |
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| 13:28 | <Phoenix> | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 13:28 | <retrospectacus> | ergalvao: ssh -vvv will tell you lots |
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| 13:31 | <ergalvao> | retrospectacus: oh.... I just ran a test using -i and I'm getting the same timeout... another thing I've noticed was: |
| 13:31 | <ergalvao> | debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 13:31 | <ergalvao> | so, I should edit THAT file instead of ~/.ssh/config? |
| 13:31 | <ergalvao> | (sorry by pasting the debug line directly here, BTW) |
| 13:31 | <valdyn> | ergalvao: why do you even have that ~/.ssh/config file ? |
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| 13:32 | <retrospectacus> | no... but it should have PermitUserEnvironment set and ssh should also read the user config file |
| 13:32 | <ergalvao> | valdyn: A few articles I've found pointed in that direction |
| 13:32 | <retrospectacus> | valdyn: he needs to use a different identity file for a certain host, for a git command |
| 13:33 | <valdyn> | retrospectacus: so maybe thats more convenient than ssh -i then |
| 13:33 | <ergalvao> | retrospectacus: I see... I should just add the "PermitUserEnvironment" under Host * then? |
| 13:33 | <retrospectacus> | ergalvao: no |
| 13:34 | <retrospectacus> | ergalvao: read "man ssh" and "man ssh_config" |
| 13:34 | <ergalvao> | ok |
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| 13:37 | <retrospectacus> | ergalvao: whoa, I just got the same email from github |
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| 13:41 | <mee> | I think everyone got it |
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| 13:46 | <retrospectacus> | yar |
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| 13:48 | <ciclop3> | load - e /home/ciclop3/Scrivania/ProwIRC/my_psybnc-it.mrc |
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| 13:56 | <matteo> | irc://irc.OpenJoke.org/CoRaZoN-GyTaNo |
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| 14:16 | <EmleyMoor> | Are there any really good Jabber/XMPP clients in squeeze? |
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| 14:17 | <daemonkeeper> | pidgin for Gnome/Gtk, kopete for KDE/Qt |
| 14:17 | <riot> | hello |
| 14:17 | <riot> | excuse me, how do I set the Italian language on mozilla? I installed yesterday xubunto |
| 14:17 | <EmleyMoor> | daemonkeeper: Can you do Service Discovery in either of those? |
| 14:18 | <daemonkeeper> | EmleyMoor: Pidgin can. Psi has perhaps the completest XMPP implementation but is not a multi-protocol client. |
| 14:18 | <EmleyMoor> | Psi has a bug that's nasty with spectrum transports |
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| 14:19 | <EmleyMoor> | I couldn't find service discovery in pidgin... perhaps you could guide me... |
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| 14:20 | <retrospectacus> | !ubuntuirc riot |
| 14:20 | <dpkg> | riot: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 14:20 | <jspiros> | Any DDs or DMs going to be at PyCon? Just got my new business cards printed with my GPG fingerprint on them for easy keysigning :) |
| 14:21 | <riot> | ok. sorry! |
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| 14:21 | <daemonkeeper> | jspiros: Maybe you want to ask on debian-events-na |
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| 14:22 | <jspiros> | daemonkeeper: thanks, wasn'tsure if that'd be appropriate, as it's not strictly a Debian event :) |
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| 14:26 | <EmleyMoor> | Where is Service Discovery in PidginL |
| 14:26 | <EmleyMoor> | ? |
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| 14:32 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah, found |
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| 14:52 | <jkyle> | howdy |
| 14:52 | <salem> | hi |
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| 14:58 | <mhall119> | does Ubuntu's xchat package default to join #debian in oftc? |
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| 15:22 | <aidalgol> | Which package has OpenGL man pages? I can't find any package that looks like it has OpenGL docs. |
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| 15:28 | <aidalgol> | Alternatively, which version of OpenGL is implemented by the version of Mesa available in wheezy? |
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| 15:29 | <jthomas> | I have a new Deb5 (5.0.4) installation that hung at install due to 'untrusted versions of software'. I canceled the Aptitude package selection and the install finished, but now when i want to install software it is asking me to type Yes to approve the installation. How can i get past this? |
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| 15:29 | <retrospectacus> | aidalgol: maybe mesa-common-dev |
| 15:30 | <aidalgol> | retrospectacus: I have that installed; no man pages. :( |
| 15:30 | <retrospectacus> | jthomas: you need to install the GPG signatures for your sources into your trusted keyring... what source is it complaining about? |
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| 15:30 | <retrospectacus> | aidalgol: ''dpkg -L mesa-common-dev'' to see what files it gave you.. the description says it has some doc |
| 15:31 | <jthomas> | retrospectacus: the default install only put http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian and security.debian.org and volatile.debian.org |
| 15:31 | <aidalgol> | retrospectacus: It seems to only have a few pages from the website, but no actual reference. |
| 15:31 | <jthomas> | i want to install, say, rsync, so that would be the main one i would bet |
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| 15:32 | <retrospectacus> | aidalgol: don't know... maybe freeglut3-dev |
| 15:32 | <retrospectacus> | jthomas: can you pastebin your sources.list and apt-get/aptitude command and its output |
| 15:33 | <jthomas> | sure, moment |
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| 15:33 | <aidalgol> | retrospectacus: Not that either. I've looked in the gl dev packages, and I can't find any reference docs. |
| 15:34 | <aidalgol> | oh, well, I'll just use the docs on the OpenGL website. |
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| 15:37 | <jthomas> | retrospectacus: http://pastebin.com/9ND6DBuw |
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| 15:38 | <retrospectacus> | lenny eh |
| 15:39 | <jthomas> | yeah :( |
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| 15:43 | <retrospectacus> | we're not supposed to support Lenny anymore but try installing "debian-keyring" .. also pastebin the output of "apt-get update" |
| 15:44 | <jthomas> | i did install that keyring, no change |
| 15:45 | <jthomas> | retrospectacus: http://pastebin.com/YT5SvJrL |
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| 15:46 | <jthomas> | oh lenny EOL just happened huh |
| 15:46 | <retrospectacus> | a month ago |
| 15:46 | <jthomas> | that's too bad, too soon |
| 15:47 | <retrospectacus> | why? nobody should be using Lenny anymore |
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| 15:47 | <retrospectacus> | the update looks fine. Install something else, still complains? |
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| 15:48 | <jthomas> | we've got hundreds of sites running on a Lenny box that we can't expect clients to pay to upgrade their sites to run on newer PHP etc |
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| 15:48 | <jthomas> | yes, it still complains |
| 15:49 | <irocksu> | how can i figure out what mail application my server uses? |
| 15:49 | <irocksu> | i updated some packages and now i cannot send emails |
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| 15:50 | <irocksu> | i setup the system 5 years ago and do not know what tools i use |
| 15:50 | <irocksu> | for emails |
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| 15:51 | <jthomas> | irocksu probably it uses exim4, it's been the debian default for a while. as root try 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' |
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| 15:51 | <irocksu> | it tells me exim4-config is either broken or not completely installed |
| 15:52 | <jthomas> | it may not be exim4 tho |
| 15:52 | <jthomas> | run this: ls /etc/init.d/ |
| 15:52 | <jthomas> | and see if you see exim4 or citadel or sendmail or postfix listed at all |
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| 15:53 | <irocksu> | i have exim4 fetchmail postfix courier |
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| 15:54 | <jthomas> | eesh |
| 15:54 | <retrospectacus> | ''dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail'' will tell you which MTA you are using |
| 15:54 | <jthomas> | thanks |
| 15:54 | <irocksu> | postfix: /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 15:55 | <irocksu> | i guess postfix my postfix config is broken? |
| 15:56 | <jthomas> | yeah it seems so |
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| 15:57 | <irocksu> | thank you jthomas and retrospectacus. i will investigate. perhaps i will come back later to ask more questions. |
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| 16:08 | <irocksu> | the command /etc/init.d/saslauthd start fixed my problem |
| 16:09 | <irocksu> | but why did the daemon not start in the first place? |
| 16:09 | <jthomas> | dunno, you'd have to check the logs I'd guess |
| 16:09 | <jthomas> | but it's good that you've resolved it! |
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| 16:52 | <alberto> | Ola |
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| 16:53 | <alberto> | capullos |
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| 16:53 | <Guest5424> | b vg |
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| 16:54 | <Ganneff> | !es |
| 16:54 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 17:19 | <xayon> | uf |
| 17:19 | <xayon> | ups, sorry =) |
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| 18:05 | <onryo> | Was talking to one of the Tor devs Sebastian. Normally Erinn Clark (0x63FEE659) signs the Tor Browser Bundles. Since she is away Sebastian Hahn (0xC5AA446D) singed it. Normally Aurora (Mozilla) is used. Sebastian straight out used Firefox (big no no). Would it be OK if I packaged Tor for them using IceWeasel? |
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| 18:10 | <onryo> | I want to see total transparency, code review and FOSS in Tor. Think IceWeasel fits the bill. Just need to make sure that their are no issues with logos etc. |
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| 18:12 | <Rwm> | hello |
| 18:12 | <Sebboh> | I just accidentally dput my locally built package. It says that it uploaded it to ftp.upload.debian.org. I meant for dput to send it to my LOCAL incoming... Uh.. Sorry. Will it just be ignored properly? Do I need to do anything to remove it? |
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| 18:16 | <otak> | hello. Is it still possible to install debian into 32 MB of ram ? |
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| 18:16 | <ompaul> | otak: you really need to look at embedded debian |
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| 18:17 | <cobra> | Hey there every one ... what version of virtual box that contain the guest additions |
| 18:17 | <otak> | oh thanks. it's just an old amd pc tho |
| 18:17 | <cobra> | ? |
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| 18:17 | <ompaul> | http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
| 18:17 | <Sebboh> | cobra, there is a separate package for guest additions. apt-cache search virtualbox guest |
| 18:18 | <ompaul> | otak: 32megs of ram these days is something I'd almost expect to find on a router :) what kind of use to do you intend to make of this machine? |
| 18:18 | <otak> | ok thanks. it ran lenny fine: screen, lynx, ncmpc , python ,irssi obviously |
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| 18:20 | <ompaul> | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en maybe that will help |
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| 18:24 | <Sebboh> | otak, just do an expert install and during the 'select and install packages' step (tasksel), don't check anything. Then disable apt recommends apt.conf.d (google that). .. and consider finding a low-mem kernel from some semi-trusted 3rd party repo. |
| 18:26 | <Sebboh> | (Or build your own kernel, but you'd want to build it on another machine, and *I* don't know how to do that. Building locally is easy, when ya got the ram for it.) |
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| 18:30 | <otak> | oops I was reading |
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| 18:32 | <manel> | Programa para particionar disco duro externo en debian? |
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| 18:33 | <ferlete> | hello |
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| 18:33 | <otak> | sebboh I did those things with the lenny iso as the squeeze iso will not load the kernel |
| 18:34 | <ferlete> | hello people |
| 18:34 | <ferlete> | someone speak portuguese? |
| 18:34 | <otak> | so it's an opportunity to learn about compiling or a sentimental waste of time |
| 18:35 | <otak> | !po |
| 18:35 | <dpkg> | methinks po is Piss Off or Post Office |
| 18:36 | <otak> | !pr |
| 18:36 | <Ganneff> | triggered an use /msg to play with the bot |
| 18:36 | <Ganneff> | err |
| 18:36 | <Ganneff> | use /msg to play with the bot |
| 18:36 | <otak> | ferlete: hay un otro canal en portugese |
| 18:36 | <Ganneff> | and i think you looked for: |
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| 18:36 | <Ganneff> | !pt |
| 18:36 | <dpkg> | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 18:37 | <daimonion> | !sr |
| 18:37 | <daimonion> | :) |
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| 18:41 | <ferlete> | tanks |
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| 18:42 | <Sebboh> | otak, maybe the other person was correct about debian-embedded, then. Did the squeeze iso mention what the problem was, or did it just hang or reboot? Maybe you'll get lucky and it's not a memory issue: for example, many systems require boot configurations like acpi=off and such. |
| 18:43 | <Sebboh> | otak, oh, did you use the *text mode* option when booting off the squeeze media? OH, wait, have you tried upgrading to squeeze via apt-get dist-upgrade instead of via a fresh install? |
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| 18:45 | <otak> | i think text mode is selected automatically, it just hangs when loading the kernel |
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| 18:46 | <otak> | unfortunately (facepalm) i backed up the drive with cp -r instead of cp -a and lost all setuids etc, then the old drive just died while i was testing the new install |
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| 18:47 | <Sebboh> | otak, oh no! |
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| 18:48 | <otak> | it was really confusing, serves me right as i've read that particular man page before |
| 18:48 | <otak> | the backup ran but many things did not work including apt |
| 18:49 | <otak> | I thought it would be easier to reinstall than fix |
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| 18:52 | <Sebboh> | I don't have a proper browser right now. Try to confirm that the kernel will boot in 32mb of ram. That's step one.. If it does, then I bet that you are having ACPI problems or hardware detection problems, etc. Common problems for booting new kernels on old hardware--work arounds often exist. |
| 18:52 | <Sebboh> | ... But maybe 32mb is just too little. (I haven't tried that little in a while!) |
| 18:52 | <Sebboh> | good luck. |
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| 18:56 | <otak> | thanks for your thoughts. i'll try acpi=off. the hardware should be pretty standard. |
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| 20:16 | <adrias> | exit |
| 20:17 | <cthuluh> | /exit |
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| 20:51 | <arda> | any body can help me |
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| 20:54 | <abrotman> | did you ask a question ? |
| 20:54 | <arda> | yes |
| 20:54 | <biologolunar> | what? |
| 20:54 | <arda> | when I try watch the mkv files |
| 20:54 | <arda> | my session closing |
| 20:55 | <arda> | what you think |
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| 20:55 | <biologolunar> | with which player you're trying to play the mkv? |
| 20:56 | <arda> | vlc and ubuntu video player |
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| 20:56 | <biologolunar> | you have ubuntu? |
| 20:56 | <arda> | yes |
| 20:56 | <arda> | ubuntu 12.04 |
| 20:56 | <biologolunar> | !ubuntu |
| 20:56 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 20:57 | <arda> | ok thanks |
| 20:58 | <biologolunar> | I reproduce in debian squeeze videos in smplayer, and have had no problems |
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| 20:58 | <biologolunar> | including mkv format |
| 20:59 | <arda> | what is the diffrence debian and ubuntu |
| 20:59 | <arda> | debian is a os ? |
| 20:59 | <biologolunar> | yes |
| 21:00 | <arda> | which one is easy for use |
| 21:00 | <arda> | for home users |
| 21:01 | <abrotman> | arda: Ubuntu is geared more toward beginners |
| 21:01 | <biologolunar> | debian is also easy for home users |
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| 21:01 | <garn32> | ubuntu is a good starter, and debian will help you develop your linux skills but is still pretty user friendly |
| 21:02 | <biologolunar> | !based on debian |
| 21:02 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 21:02 | <abrotman> | arda: do not msg me, this channel is not for Ubuntu support. If you have nothing Debian-related to discuss, please go elsewhere |
| 21:02 | <abrotman> | biologolunar: please stop with the bot |
| 21:02 | <biologolunar> | ok |
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| 21:03 | <arda> | there no body at ubuntu channel :D |
| 21:03 | <Sebboh> | arda, wrong irc network. try irc.freenode.net |
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| 21:03 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 21:03 | <abrotman> | arda: this channel is not for Ubuntu support, go to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net .. ubuntu is offtopic here |
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| 21:07 | <biologolunar> | sorry if I annoyed anyone |
| 21:07 | <m0rtis0000> | YOU were trying to be helpful. |
| 21:07 | <biologolunar> | Well, if that is my idea |
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| 21:08 | <m0rtis0000> | because this channel has a line out the door of people asking for help.. thus the need to be strict in adhering to topic |
| 21:09 | <abrotman> | Ubuntu is still offtopic here |
| 21:09 | <m0rtis0000> | you don't need to explain WHY you're a dick. |
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| 21:10 | <biologolunar> | thank |
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| 21:11 | <jkalaitz> | hi |
| 21:11 | <biologolunar> | hello, jkalaitz, what is your question? |
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| 21:18 | <cobra-the-joker> | Hey there every one ... i have a minor problem here... my laptop doesnt sleep :S |
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| 21:18 | <cobra-the-joker> | it just locks the screen ... using KDE |
| 21:18 | <Guest5448> | !hi |
| 21:18 | <dpkg> | hello, guest5448 |
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| 21:21 | <cobra-the-joker> | anyone knows a solution to the problem !? |
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| 21:35 | <abrotman> | cobra-the-joker: did you look in the kde power settings manager to see if there's an option to change that ? |
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| 21:55 | <dash> | nick bovril |
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| 21:58 | <cobra-the-joker> | abrotman: sorry i was disconnected :S |
| 21:59 | <cobra-the-joker> | abrotman: still there ? |
| 21:59 | <abrotman> | no, i've fallen into a hole. Exits are to the North and West |
| 21:59 | <garn32> | use arrows |
| 22:00 | <cobra-the-joker> | lol |
| 22:00 | <cobra-the-joker> | abrotman: what should i check there in power management |
| 22:00 | <abrotman> | i don't use KDE .. i was just asking if you'd looked in there .. how are you trying to put it to sleep? with the lid? |
| 22:01 | <cobra-the-joker> | no ... it would probably hang |
| 22:01 | <cobra-the-joker> | but i tried with choosing sleep from the menu |
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| 22:07 | <cobra-the-joker> | the kde CD is missing alot ... pm-utils isnt even installed :D |
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| 22:08 | <cobra-the-joker> | yep ... installing pm-utils solved the issue |
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| 23:13 | <omnius> | i have deb 604, installed Firefox 10.0.2 tar, uninstalled iceweasel, need to add to main menu, what is the command? |
| 23:16 | <retrospectacus> | alacarte |
| 23:16 | <retrospectacus> | if you're using gnome2 |
| 23:17 | <omnius> | TY, i sort of need the command to start firefox |
| 23:18 | <omnius> | the info on adding a shortcut to the desktop did not work for me, I have recently migrated from ubuntu |
| 23:18 | <retrospectacus> | yes you do - "installed Firefox 10.0.2 tar" put it somewhere |
| 23:19 | <omnius> | yeah, so it is installed but i dont know how to start it , what is the command for starting firefox |
| 23:19 | <omnius> | it is in /opt |
| 23:19 | <retrospectacus> | well it's /opt/something/something/firefox |
| 23:19 | <retrospectacus> | as a random guess... |
| 23:20 | <retrospectacus> | use alacart to add it to the menu |
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| 23:21 | <retrospectacus> | alacarte* |
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| 23:22 | <retrospectacus> | why not just use iceweasel? |
| 23:22 | <omnius> | hmm, command is denied, i did chmod already. |
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| 23:23 | <omnius> | well i run scripts using scriptish and the scripts do not work in iceweasel |
| 23:23 | <omnius> | nor in chrome |
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| 23:26 | <omnius> | ok, i have firefox installed in /opt/firefox, how do I change the permissions for myself, |
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| 23:28 | <retrospectacus> | locate the executable, might be called firefox-bin - then run e.g. chmod +x /opt/firefox/firefox-bin |
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| 23:28 | <retrospectacus> | then run it like /opt/firefox/firefox-bin |
| 23:28 | <retrospectacus> | if that works, add it to the menu with alacarte |
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| 23:29 | <number_one_1> | im new 2 linux someone explain how 2 install java? thanks |
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| 23:31 | <omnius> | thankyou retrospectacus |
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| 23:33 | * | cdlu is away <N> all boats <N> messages will be Logged. |
| 23:33 | <scorphus> | number_one_1: please follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/Java and you should be ok |
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| 23:44 | <ayaka> | i hear that gihub have a security problem in ssh key, does it cause by openssh and will influence myself serve? |
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| 23:45 | <retrospectacus> | ayaka: no it's a problem with their system, an attacker could install his ssh pubkey into your account and push/pull as you |
| 23:45 | <ayaka> | I see thank you |
| 23:45 | <retrospectacus> | all our keys are fine :) |
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| 23:48 | <ayaka> | and our shadow passwd is md5 encode, but there is many website offer serve to decode it |
| 23:49 | <ayaka> | is there any way to enhance it |
| 23:49 | <retrospectacus> | no it isn't md5 |
| 23:49 | <retrospectacus> | also the attacker would need to acquire your shadow file |
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| 23:51 | <ayaka> | retrospectacus they can boot my computer and get it, but which encode does it use |
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| 23:54 | <retrospectacus> | it uses crypt |
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| 23:54 | <retrospectacus> | if they can boot your computer there is no need for your password, it's game over already |
| --- | Log | closed Thu Mar 08 00:00:39 2012 |