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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-03-18

---Logopened Sun Mar 18 00:01:03 2012
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01:25<vieng>I'm Vieng
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02:48<ayaka>does icewease has mobile version, i know firefox has
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04:54<intore>petemc: hi, are you online?
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05:03<ayaka>intore if you have question, you ask here directly
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05:23<ayaka>anonymous hello
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06:04<mivulf>how to make debian hotkeys to move windows like unity? (ctrl - alt - numpad 1-9)
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06:07<mivulf>sorry, forgot - gnome3
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07:39<XeonBloomfield>Are squeeze-backports' packages updated as new software is released?
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07:51<deavid>anyone using medit from Debian Sid has noticed that always opens files in ISO-8859-15 instead of what you say in the preferences?
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07:51<deavid>i'm trying to configure it to open files with UTF-8 by default, but i can't :-(
07:51<ayaka>seavid madedit?
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07:52<ayaka>deavid madedit?
07:52<deavid>i mean "medit"
07:52<deavid>mooedit ?
07:52<deavid>this one
07:54<ayaka>deavid sorry no idea, but you have better see the topic
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08:26<philipp>how do i get the version of my alsa plugin?
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08:52<intore>dear all, it's a long time that am trying to configure a server squeeze with 2 network interfaces but the clients don't go online
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08:55<intore>i added to /etc/default/firewall this line also
08:55<intore>pre-up /etc/default/firewall
08:56<ayaka>intore does it work when you stop iptable
08:56<intore>could you help me about this please?
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08:56<ayaka>intore only apply nat iptable rule
08:57<ayaka>inore does petemc said work?
08:57<intore>i tried
08:57<intore>iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s -j MASQUERADE
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08:58<intore>i used only this line
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08:59<intore>which check could i try?
09:00<petemc>intore: are the client machines configured correctly?
09:00<ayaka>intore i don't think it is enough, i am finding out a right link for you
09:01<intore>yes, the clients are correctly configured, they use dhcp
09:02<petemc>and their gateway is the iternal ip of the server?
09:02<petemc>can they ping the server?
09:02<ayaka>intore first please paste iptables -L
09:02<petemc>can they ping an external ip address like ?
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09:03<intore>i try
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09:04<slush>intore: what does this output: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
09:04<ayaka>petemc it seems he need a rule to accept package from eth0
09:04<Ghost>Hey jsou tu cesi? im czech
09:05<ayaka>!/msg dpkg cz
09:05<petemc>ayaka: if he ran that iptables command he should have one
09:05<ayaka>petemc no he didn't he only run one rule as you said
09:05<petemc>that should be fine
09:06<ayaka>!tell Ghost about cz
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09:19<intore>so, this is iptables -l
09:19<intore>ping is ok
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09:20<intore>and cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is 0
09:21<petemc>echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
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09:26<intore>echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward doesn't give me messagges
09:26<slush>thats ok, it shouldnt
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09:26<slush>if you do the cat thing again, you'll see it says 1 now
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09:27<intore>ok but the clients don't have internet
09:28<petemc>can the clients ping an external ip?
09:28<intore>but in /etc/network/interfaces i wrote at the end echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
09:28<petemc>so forwading seems to work
09:28<petemc>what are the clients using for dns?
09:29<intore>they use
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09:29<petemc>are you using 192.168.5 instead of 192.168.1 ?
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09:30<petemc>if you are, that rule i gave you shouldnt work
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09:30<intore>i changed with my address
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09:30<petemc>on one client machine, change it to use as the dns
09:31<intore>why with iptables -L i have this line ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
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09:31<intore>under FORWARD chains
09:31<petemc>was that in your firewall script?
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09:32<petemc>you can clear the rules with iptables -F, iptables -X, iptables -t nat -F, iptables -t nat -X
09:32<mivulf>how to change gnome3-->kde4? sudo apt-get install kde-full, sudo apt-get purge gnome-desktop?
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09:37<intore>petemc: also iptables -t mangle -F?
09:38<petemc>i dont use that myself
09:38<intore>ok, i'm going to try with this
09:38<petemc>intore: if your client machine could ping an external ip it would seem it was working
09:39<intore>i try with your last modification
09:39<intore>i'll come back
09:40<petemc>which modification?
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10:02<intore>petemc: in dhcpd.conf is set the dns like
10:02<intore>the problem is the dns
10:03<intore>i didn't understand it
10:04<intore>resolv.conf is automatically created
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10:18<intore>petemc: so, i checked in dhcpd.conf and option for dns is
10:19<slush>but does have an dns server which serves for your clients
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10:20<intore>on the clients i have like gateway
10:20<slush>that's not what I asked
10:20<intore>what did you mean?
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10:21<slush>you need a dns-server on if you want to use that host as dns
10:21<slush>otherwise you need to change it, so your clients will use your isp's dns
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10:22<intore>ok but is not enough have resolv.conf?
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10:22<slush>you can have anything you want in resolv.conf, but if the nameservers you have in resolv.conf don't serve dns, then it won't be of any use
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10:23<intore>which dns server do you suggest me?
10:23<slush>I suggest you use your provider's dns
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10:23<intore>mmm i prefer not
10:23<petemc>use googles -
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10:24<intore>is not possible to set like dns server
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10:25<petemc>intore: if you install software like bind9 it is
10:26<intore>and with this one is possible to use the ip address present in resolv.conf?
10:27<petemc>when configured correctly, yes
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10:27<intore>ok, i'll try
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10:34<anonymous>my girls
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10:35<anonymous>edik eblan
10:35<gnugr>stop it
10:35<gnugr>!ops anonymous_
10:35<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: gnugr complains about: anonymous_
10:36<abrotman>anonymous_: do you need help with Debian ?
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10:39<mivulf>hello, im on kde4 now, how to deinstall all of gnome3?
10:40<abrotman>mivulf: please don't ask both networks, it's considered rude
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10:41<mivulf>abrotman: im on despair
10:41<abrotman>english fail ...
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10:46<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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10:46<s_i_m>just in case
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10:47<gnugr>in case of what?
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10:47<s_i_m>if mivulf needs help in russian
10:48<steff>you have a russian deb. distro?
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10:49<intore>petemc: i thinked dhcpd did also as dns server
10:49<intore>with bind it runs
10:49<intore>thanks a lot
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10:51<petemc>intore: good job
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10:55<s_i_m>steff, Debian speaks many languages
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10:55<Dmitry>& many kernels...
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10:58<ayaka>patch is not good enough, a space will make file complete different, is there any successor
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11:08<s_i_m>ayaka, --ignore-whitespace
11:08<s_i_m>or just -l
11:08<me>Hi. I have problems whith collaboration between vlc or totem and iceweasel. Those are two separate problems to be more precise. I am trying to stream youtube videos to totem using various plugins. It looks like it is buffering, but it doesn't start to play. It looks like the problem lies on totem's site.
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11:08<rgms>is there gui software center thingy in debian? Similar to the one of Ubuntu
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11:10<me>As for vlc I need mozilla vlc plugin but I don't knew where to get it. I am new to debian. The repositories containing the mentioned package are either for unstable or stable and I am using testing.
11:10<me>By the way I build the system from barebones up. I don't knew if it relates to any of mentioned problems.
11:10<s_i_m>rgms, many users of gnome use synaptics, i think (i do not use)
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11:11<ayaka>s_i_m no enough,once you add a new line, then the rest became different
11:14<s_i_m>ayaka, there is also --fuzz and --force
11:15<juhaj>Does anyone know what has changed in cups in sid in the last few weeks? After upgrading today, I am no longer able to print, thanks to: "/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed". I am not even able to cupsenable the printer: cupsenable has started asking me (root) for a password (it never did before!), but root has no password!
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11:20<ayaka>s_i_m thank you
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11:20<ayaka>juhaj use sudo
11:20<dikky>hi all..
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11:34<juhaj>ayaka: Are you serious? You are suggesting *root* to use sudo to become *who* in order to cupsenable a printer?
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11:44<s_i_m>juhaj, have you tried trivial things like restarting CUPS, re-adding the printer, etc.?
11:44<ruif13>:S my boot stops at brcms_ops_bss_info_changed
11:45<ruif13>valdyn doesnt boot :(
11:46<ruif13>i think is nvidia
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11:49<s_i_m>ruif13, no, it is related to your Broadcom wireless I think
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11:49<ruif13>but i have ip
11:49<ruif13>from wireless
11:50<ruif13>if i run startx appears failede to load the nvidia kernel module
11:51<juhaj>s_i_m: Reinstalling requires a password, which I do not have
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11:52<juhaj>s_i_m: But assume I did that and it did not help (I turned all authentications off: I need my tickets printed NOW, I can worry about unsecure cups later)
11:52<luxius>hey, can any of you name some wiki db/sites easy to install and setup with apache2?
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11:52<s_i_m>ruif13, maybe this is related
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11:56<ruif13>gona w8 for the new kernel from stable :)
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11:57<rgms>how do I scroll in a console applicaton? Mouse scrolling and page up give me stuff like ^[[5. The app in question is ttytter
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12:00<s_i_m>juhaj, ls -ld /usr/lib/cups/backend
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12:03<s_i_m>rgms, use shift-pgup/shift-pgdn
12:04<rgms>doesn't seem to be working :/
12:05<rgms>same thing in minecraft server running on java
12:05<Dmitry>on java? :-O
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12:05<luxius>hey, can any of you name some wiki db/sites easy to install and setup with apache2?
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12:06<rgms>well yeah it's a java app, minecraft that is
12:06<luxius>rgms, are you directly in console or through screen/byobu?
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12:06<s_i_m>luxius, mediawiki?
12:06<luxius>s_i_m, I'll give it a look
12:06<Dmitry>rgms, terrible :|
12:06<rgms>screen actually
12:07<luxius>rgms, I know in byobu I have to hit F7 to enable scolling mode
12:07<luxius>I use PuTTY though
12:07<juhaj>Cups seems to want any user making any admin stuff with cups to be in lpadmin group, is this correct?
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12:08<s_i_m>juhaj, depends on what you have in your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
12:09<rgms>well f7 didn't work but I'll look into man screen
12:09<petemc>rgms: ctrl a [
12:09<rgms>nice! Thanks guys :)
12:10<luxius>rgms, you're welcome - and I can recommend PuTTY -> byobu
12:10*luxius also runs a minecraft server
12:10<juhaj>s_i_m: I have "SystemGroup lpadmin" and both root and the other user I am trying to debug this with ARE members
12:11<luxius>rgms, perhaps PuTTY -> mc -> byobu
12:11<rgms>alright, I'll look into byobu
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12:11<luxius>rgms, just don't byobu -> mc cause the F-keys screw up then ;)
12:11<luxius>rgms, and if you use PuTTY set the keyboard to Xterm R6
12:12<s_i_m>juhaj, so what are the permissions on /usr/lib/cups/backend on your machine?
12:12<rgms>I really like terminator, though
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12:16<juhaj>s_i_m: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 18 15:59 /usr/lib/cups/backend
12:17<s_i_m>seems to be ok
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12:18<juhaj>s_i_m: I can print now, but it required me to change all authentication entries in cupsd.conf to "None", which is not quite optimal...
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12:19<juhaj>s_i_m: Another problem, if you do not mind, that I have fought against for long to no avail: some documents which are Letter, will not print (the paper is A4).
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12:22<juhaj>s_i_m: I have tried both to set HPOption_PaperPolicy to NearestSizeNoAdjust (just in case the printer runs out of memory trying to scale it), and also tried to set all possible page size arguments in both cups and the printing software to A4, but the files still get sent to printer as Letter
12:23<juhaj>(I checked the PS file on the wire with wireshark - is there any easier way of getting to the results of cups's filters?)
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12:23<pasquale>xdcc list
12:23<s_i_m>juhaj, you may change the page size manually with psresize
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12:24<juhaj>s_i_m: Do you mean that cups cannot do that?
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12:27<s_i_m>juhaj, well, typically you set the paper size in the software from which you print your document. i just supposed that does not work for you.
12:29<s_i_m>from the command line you may use lp -o media=A4 ...
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12:32<juhaj>s_i_m: Well, "the software" is any pdf reader I can get my hands on, so I assumed it was a cups issue. Trying lp now...
12:34<juhaj>wrong terminal
12:35<juhaj>I was just wondering what was taking so long, but it is the printer processing the *letter* again...
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12:35<juhaj>Another related question is why /etc/cups/lpoptions and Duplex=DuplexNoTumble seems to have no effect: all prints are suddenly single sided.
12:36<ruif13>to remove the kernel update from backports i only need to edit the grub?
12:37<s_i_m>juhaj, there is #cups channel on freenode
12:37<juhaj>Notice that apart from the Letter -> A4 all these problems started after upgrading from squeeze to wheezy, so I assume that either cups/wheezy is broken or my old cupsd.conf needs a serious rewrite (I kept the "locally installed version" when upgrading because the default cups config is single-client-single-server whereas I have several clients printing to one server)
12:37<juhaj>s_i_m: So you do not think this is a Debian issue?
12:38<s_i_m>juhaj, I am not an expert in cups
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12:39<juhaj>s_i_m: You seem to know a fair deal anyway. And many thanks for helping out with this anyway!
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12:39<s_i_m>no prob
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12:41<juhaj>s_i_m: At least I now have my train tickets =)
12:42<binbinsh>hi, I have a question, when I am play flash in chromium or firefox, the cpu usage of xorg is always very high
12:42<s_i_m>juhaj, i see =)
12:43<s_i_m>binbinsh, a flash video?
12:43<juhaj>s_i_m: This is as if cups completely disregarded everything in lpoptions...
12:43<juhaj>s_i_m: Do you know if changing /etc/cups/ppd/printers.ppd to a different default would help?
12:44<binbinsh>s_i_m, flash video like hulu
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12:46<s_i_m>juhaj, that depends on the printer model very much, I think.
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12:47<binbinsh>when I play flash video, the temp of cpu is always about 70 C, and cpu usage of xorg is almost 30%
12:47<s_i_m>binbinsh, which video card driver your X is using? you can find that in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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12:48<s_i_m>binbinsh, and which video card you have?
12:48<binbinsh>it is intel hd gma 5700, the first gen
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12:48<binbinsh>I use the xf86-video-intel driver
12:48<gruetzkopf>why is wine in debian so old
12:48<juhaj>s_i_m: How? I simply intend to change the default value in the PPD to something else. This something else is also mentioned in the PPD as a possible choice of PageSize or Duplex, so it should not depend on the printer, I think
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12:50<infinity0>can someone test something for me
12:50<infinity0>on pristine iceweasel
12:50<infinity0>(16:46:14) infinity0:
12:50<infinity0>(16:46:18) infinity0:
12:50<infinity0>(16:46:27) infinity0: does password saving work with pristine firefox on any of these websites?
12:50<infinity0>(16:46:32) infinity0: just enter a dummy password
12:50<infinity0>(16:46:37) infinity0: and then see if it auto-completes next time
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12:53<s_i_m>juhaj, ah, I got is so that you would replace the PPD. You may try changing the default in ppd, but I do not think that is the right way. Anyway, setting printing options manually should have the same effect, imho...
12:53<s_i_m>got it*
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12:55<s_i_m>gruetzkopf, complain to maintainer and/or suggest assistance
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12:57<binbinsh>s_i_m, my video card is intel hd gma, 5700, the first generation integrated graphics, I use xf86-video-intel driver
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12:58<s_i_m>binbinsh, I have a similar integrated video with the same driver. No problem with flash videos, though. I use flashplugin-nonfree
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12:59<binbinsh>s_i_m, I use flashplugin-nonfree too
13:02<s_i_m>binbinsh, post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere, just in case
13:02<s_i_m> etc.
13:03<juhaj>s_i_m: You were right, changing the default in the ppd did not help. I still cannot get 2-sided without choosing 2-sided from the printing application =(
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13:05<binbinsh>s_i_m, thx, I have pasted it here
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13:11<gruetzkopf>building wine takes some time :
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13:12<anonymous>bulgarian ?
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13:14<anonymous>Bulgarians have here?
13:14<dpkg>Bulgarian users are invited to join #debian-bg @ (Vsichki bylgari sa pokaneni da se vkliuchat v #debian-bg @
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13:16<s_i_m>binbinsh, i had a look, but did not find any real problems there
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13:18<binbinsh>s_i_m, I found similar bug in and
13:18<binbinsh>is these the same problem
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13:26<s_i_m>binbinsh, it can be the same or not the same...
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14:05<undefinedlover>hey all
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14:06<undefinedlover>I am totally new to Debian as well as using CLI IRCs... Anyone out to help a bit ?
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15:54<supersemko>anyone know how to add a post-connection script to wicd?
15:55<supersemko>i have this perl script but couldn't make wicd run it
15:56<firsm>supersemko: wicd has a /etc/wicd/scripts/postconnect folder, I'm assuming this is what it is meant for
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15:56<supersemko>firsm: yes i copied the script there and entered the parameters on wicd
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15:57<supersemko>wicd->scripts->post connection
15:57<supersemko>i entered wired wired homeConn
15:57<supersemko>but no dice
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15:58<firsm>supersemko: I have not tried using this feauture of wict myself, so the only other advise I can give is: is your script executable?
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15:58<supersemko>firsm: how do i check whether it is executable or not? :S
15:59<firsm>supersemko: ls -al and check for "x"
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15:59*me IB
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16:00<firsm>supersemko: according to me manpage, the scripts will be executed and 3 arguments will be passed, so make sure your script doesn't complain if command line arguments are passed
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16:00<supersemko>firsm: i guess it is not executable: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 781 Mar 18 16:55
16:01<supersemko>do i do a chmod +x?
16:01<firsm>supersemko: yeah
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16:02<supersemko>firsm: the thing is that i enter the args to wicd but after i save it the second time i checked args section, they're gone!
16:02<firsm>supersemko: I don't think this is the way it is meant to be used. You should write a wrapper script in /etc/wicd/... which executes your script with the arguments you want
16:03<supersemko>firsm: oh i see, gonna have to figure that out myself
16:04<me>was trying to articulate the question... should go and RTFM... thank you for help =)
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16:36<dadf>i need aufs-modules or unionfs-modules. Seems this debioan netinstall is not equipped with them, even though debian installs i have done in the past have. I need them for remastersys. Whats the point in remastering if it has to be non-debian! Is there an official debian 32bit kernel or .iso that has this?
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16:42<dadf>is it possible to get the debian 6. version that was released in june and try that? to see if it still has them?
16:42<gsimmons>dadf: Debian's Linux 2.6.32 kernel is patched to provide aufs version 2 support.
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16:45<dadf>yeah apparently aufs2 does not work for remastersys. oh wwell. i guess i need to learn to use genisoimage on my own without remastersys. but i think i still need to use squashfs, which doesnt work with aufs2 apparently. I really need to build this system with debian- i hate all the other distros :( oh well back to the books
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17:09<Rafael>que tal?
17:09<Rafael>hola dehelper
17:09<Rafael>que tal estas?
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17:10<Rafael>hay alguien hay?
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17:10<Rafael>que alguien conteste!
17:10<Rafael>bueno si no contestais adios
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17:10<themill>!es-social Rafael
17:10<dpkg>Rafael: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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17:28<`Derp>Hi, I have Debian on a usb drive, I can load it from the usb drive and everything, but when I go to install Debian (from the desktop) nothing happens. Does anyone have any ideas?
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17:30<`Derp>I've also done su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher from a terminal, and it says no suitable d-i initrd image found, aborting.
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17:41<`Derp>No one?
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17:43<vrkalak>you need to state your question or make a comment?
17:43<`Derp>I have.
17:43<`Derp>Hi, I have Debian on a usb drive, I can load it from the usb drive and everything, but when I go to install Debian (from the desktop) nothing happens. Does anyone have any ideas?
17:43<`Derp>I've also done su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher from a terminal, and it says no suitable d-i initrd image found, aborting.
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17:44<vrkalak>which version of Debian arre you using?
17:44<`Derp>I asked that, and I wondered if anyone had any suggestions.
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17:45<vrkalak>`Derp, do you have a "initrd" file located in ~/.
17:46<`Derp>Where is ~/ referring to? My computer, or the usb drive (which the debian live is on)?
17:47<vrkalak>~/home/username/.hidden files
17:47<`Derp>Oh, so it's referring to My computer.
17:47<vrkalak>do you know how to find and use the .hidden files?
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17:48<`Derp>Let me check quick, you do need linux installed to install debian, right?
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17:48<`Derp>Because I don't.
17:48<vrkalak>File Manager > View > select 'Show Hidden' > look for file
17:49<vrkalak>No, Linux is the Kernel not the OS ... the OS is Debian
17:49<vrkalak>there is another IRC channel ... /join #debian-live ... maybe, they can help
17:49<`Derp>No, I have no hidden files on my usb drive.
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17:50<`Derp>Debian was put on the usb drive by YUMI.
17:50<`Derp>Would that have anything to do with it?
17:50<vrkalak>`Derp, there 'are' hidden files, there are always hidden files
17:51<`Derp>The only hidden folder I have is .disk
17:51<vrkalak>`Derp, which Desktop Environment are you using? gnome, xfce ...
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17:52<`Derp>I guess I'll ask in #debian-live
17:52<vrkalak>open the Nautilus File Manager > the click on View from the Menu Tabs > then "show hidden"
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17:52<vrkalak>not My Computer
17:54<`Derp>I did, the only hidden folders that showed up were .disk
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17:59<`Derp>On the usb drive, I beleive the debian installer is located at MY_DRIVE_LETTER:\multiboot\debian\dists\squeeze\main\debian-installer\binary-1386
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18:20<ani>how to compile 3.3-rc7 with kernel package while new kernel dont have lguest anymore , but make asking for kernel packages
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18:54<ani>how to compile 3.3-rc7 with kernel package while new kernel dont have lguest anymore , but make asking for lguest, forod kernel ijust make a symlink for lguest to resolv the lgust pasth issue in documentation
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18:58<Golfgeo>Hi all
18:58<Golfgeo>Got a silly question...
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19:00<Golfgeo>Does update-grub rewrite the mbr of my harddrives? Need to add the badram, but during the installer I've installed grub on all harddrives in my array (this produced an error from the command line after install)
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19:10<philipp>hey guiz... i ask 1 more time before i do the dist upgrade: I have to get pulseaudio and some other stuff to a newer version in order to use wine (backports are too old too) anyone a idea?
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19:12<dpkg>Debian 6.0 <stable> is codenamed <squeeze>. The current <testing> distribution, which will be released as Debian 7.0, is codenamed <wheezy>. There is no "squeezy" or "wheeze".
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19:15<themill>philipp: did you expect dpkg to respond differently here compared to on freenode? /msg dpkg cross-post
19:16<philipp>not realy but since its i silent hour i just wanted to look if the factoids are the same
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19:17<themill>same bot... same database... and as already pointed out, you could do it in /msg
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19:17<ani>and what about kernel-package
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19:19<ani>unable to compile new kernel for testing using kernel-packge
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19:20<abrotman>ani: what's wrong with the 3.2.0-9 or whatever is in testing ?
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19:21<ani>was tryiing 3.3-rc7
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19:22<ani>same lguest issue
19:22<ani>abrotman, if u google u can see its full that
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19:25<ani>3.3 foes not include Documentation/virtual/lguest .. and i dont know how to skip this and compile kernel .. every time my compile stop there
19:25<ani>sotty i am no good in english
19:25<ani>sorry *
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19:28<ani>abrotman, i am not in tesing i am on stable
19:28<ani>testing mean , want to test new kernels
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19:32<ani>ifdownloadsource from debian can i compile without that error?
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19:57<ping>hi all
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19:57<ping>can anyone please try to help me
19:58<ping>ive installed xubuntu and i cant load my win7
19:58<abrotman>ping: you sohuld ask #xubuntu on
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20:30<astuto84>repositorios disponibles para debian lenny?
20:30<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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20:32<astuto84>available repos of debian lenny?
20:32<sney>!lenny sources.list
20:32<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb lenny main" and "deb lenny/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. But realise that Lenny has not had security support since February 2012 and that you should upgrade to a newer release. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>.
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20:33<astuto84>I need to do laboratory because I need update my zimbra email server
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20:36<astuto84>the repo works
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20:41<astuto84>dpkg: thanks
20:41<dpkg>astuto84: sure thing
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20:48<hoshi411>when I type apt-get autoremove , i get the error "the following packages have unmet dependencies"
20:49<hoshi411>if i try to install those packages , i still get the same error
20:49<hoshi411>if I try to remove those packages, same error
20:49<hoshi411>the packages in question are libreoffice
20:49<kop>hoshi411: Have you done an "apt-get update" lately?
20:49<hoshi411>kop yes
20:50<hoshi411>all the time
20:50<themill>hoshi411: (a) try aptitude, (b) put the entire output in a pastebin so we can see it, (c) /msg dpkg bat
20:50<hoshi411>several times
20:50<hoshi411>ok thanks themill
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20:59<hoshi411>themill: not sure about /msg dpkg bat
20:59<wvufan>is that on ubuntu?
21:00<hoshi411>wvufan: are you talking to me?
21:01<themill>hoshi411: looks like you need to "aptitude full-upgrade"; typing "+libreoffice" at the Y/n/? prompt might help it solve that problem if it gets confused
21:01<hoshi411>im running debian testing arm
21:01<hoshi411>themill: trying now thanks
21:02<themill>(+libreoffice-writer even)
21:02<hoshi411>themill: i see, just +anypackage having trouble right
21:04<themill>that's giving aptitude an added hint to try installing that package. It will hopefully not need that hint and just try to do so anyway
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21:06<hoshi411>themill: hmm. the problem with doing that with aptitude is im not sure if I can specify which repos I want to upgrade from.
21:06<hoshi411>i usually do
21:06<hoshi411>apt-get -t testing upgrade
21:06<themill>you said you were running testing...
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21:07<hoshi411>themill: yes but i have my sources.list setup to where I can do pinning
21:07<hoshi411>for the most part I am running testing
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21:07<themill>and you wonder why apt is having trouble...
21:08<hoshi411>themill: you don't use package pinning?
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21:08<themill>anyway, -t testing is only setting a pin for testing, nothing more
21:09<hoshi411>themill: you don't prefer to have the ability to do apt-get install package/stable or apt-get install -t stable ?
21:09<themill>apt's job is hard enough as it is
21:09<hoshi411>so the answer is ... you don't prefer it
21:10<hoshi411>ok sorry,,, anyways. my fault...
21:10<hoshi411>is there a way i can delete the broken files... or do I just need to reinstall the system?
21:11<themill>ummm... did that not work, then?
21:11<hoshi411>themill: i cancelled it because i dont want it to pull packages from experimental
21:12<hoshi411>i will have to edit my sources.list first
21:12<themill>I hate to think what sort of mess you have there. Now I know why you're always coming here with problems....
21:13<themill>why do you have experimental pinned high enough that packages would be upgraded to experimental?
21:13<hoshi411>themill: well. i really appreciate your help ... and it seems that from what you are saying, that I am doing something wrong
21:13<hoshi411>but I am not sure what the right way is
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21:14<themill>hoshi411: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy"
21:14<hoshi411>I have my system setup to where I can do "apt-get install <package>/version"
21:14<hoshi411>which makes it so easy to troubleshoot
21:14<hoshi411>but not so easy to upgrade
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21:16<hoshi411>if a package causes problems or wont install sometimes I can say apt-get package/oldstable this technique has actually benefitted greatly and allowed me to use my system thus far.
21:16<hoshi411>the ability to downgrade or upgrade packages on the fly has been very beneficial
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21:20<hoshi411> < -- apt-cache policy themill
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21:20<hoshi411>its probably going to be what you expect though
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21:20*themill cries
21:20<@abrotman>wtf is bodhilinux ?
21:21<hoshi411>but seriously, show me your source list
21:21<hoshi411>bodhilinux is the wm i use to run debian
21:21<themill>hoshi411: and seriously... when you're "mainly using testing" why do you have lenny pinned higher than anything else?
21:21<hoshi411>it is mostly just a DE
21:21<@abrotman>bodhilinux is a distro based on Ubuntu
21:21<hoshi411>themill: that was a mistake
21:22<hoshi411>abrotman: yes a distro but works like a DE
21:22<@abrotman>no, it's a distro
21:22<hoshi411>i need it for my tablet
21:22<@abrotman>a distro doesn't work like a DE
21:22<hoshi411>abrotman: bodhi is a distro but the files installed are a DE
21:22*abrotman runs away
21:23<hoshi411>i can run a bodhi session or an lxde session and switch between the two
21:23<hoshi411>come on... armel is really rough right now you guys
21:23<themill>hoshi411: I don't think anyone is really going to be interested in supporting your frankendebian there... it's... scary.
21:23<hoshi411>themill: ok your system is any different?
21:24<hoshi411>you guys all have your source list pointing to random stuff right
21:24<hoshi411>its just you are more advanced and know how to manage it better than i do
21:24<themill>umm... no. We're not batshit insane
21:24<hoshi411>themill: really? can I see your source.list file?
21:25<hoshi411>themill: come on man... no need to cut me down like that
21:26<hoshi411>themill: i dont believe that this is your source.list for your main home pc... this is just what you use to help people... this isnt what you are using for fun
21:26<@abrotman>hoshi411: explain to use how a completely broken machine is any fucking fun? you're not smart enough to figure it out, so now you're here to whine to us tha tyou broke it ?
21:27<themill>hoshi411: that's what I have on every machine that I run. I just directly pastebinned my sources.list from my laptop
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21:27<@abrotman>if you need your machine to work, you don't break it intentionally
21:27<hoshi411>but my machine is doing fine except for the libreoffice packages
21:28<themill>you're in here every other day with broken packages...
21:28<hoshi411>when I install packages I always use testing
21:28<@abrotman>so fix it .. you're the one that did that .. clearly you know what you're doing
21:28<hoshi411>but apt-get remove is not fixing it
21:28<hoshi411>I dont understand that
21:28*abrotman wonders why he has a hat ...
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21:29<hoshi411>ok . my bad.
21:29<hoshi411>thank you all for your time
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21:35<ottomandaddy>hello world
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21:48<user01>any ideas for remotely fixing printing via ssh? my parents are reporting that their printer isnt working now
21:49<amitz>the /etc/apt/sources.list of that guy is epic.
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21:50<user01>i can ping the printer so that isnt the issue . .
21:50<user01>maybe something in cups
21:50<user01>enter links . . .
21:50<dpkg>A printer is an output device to physical objects. Ask me about <cups>, <printconf> or use foomatic-gui for more information on how you can get your printer working under Debian. . See also <hplip>, <openprinting>.
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21:56<user01>amitz, yeah it was working fine and they said it just stopped, maybe because of a recent update (?) dont know
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21:57<bones_was_here>sounds obvious, but make sure they power cycled the printer... many of them do eventually stop responding, even if the NIC is still working
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21:58<bones_was_here>some printers have a buggy PS implementation and crash when sent a particular document
21:59<cassy>good night
21:59<user01>cassy, bonsoir
22:00<cassy>a t on le droit de parler francais ici
22:00<user01>cassy, nope
22:00<user01>cassy, par contre on peut
22:01<cassy>thank you very much
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22:01<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
22:01<user01>cassy, pardon #debian-fr :)
22:02<cassy>thank a lot user01
22:02<user01>cassy, no problem !
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23:16<Aleric>I just rebooted and one the KDE "panel"s is not showing... the one that I had all my icons in to start applications :/
23:16<Aleric>Anyone an idea what might cause that, and how I start it anyway now?
23:17<Aleric>s/start/can start/
23:19<ChrisKnadle>I've occasionally accidentily removed the standard panel; you can recreate it using the "cashew" icon
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23:21<Aleric>I didn't remove it
23:21<ChrisKnadle>Was it a standard panel or a "grouping" panel?
23:21<Aleric>My machine froze, which is why I rebooted... I once had it that I got a pop-up about "it" being temporarily being deactivated because something was "lagging" ... and I had to type some short-cut to get it back
23:22<ChrisKnadle>Oh. Oh... yeah. THAT I can exlain, then. :-(
23:22<Aleric>I think that is the case now... I have to type something so it gets activated again.
23:22<Aleric>But I forgot what :/
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23:22<ChrisKnadle>KDE4 does something yucky in terms of the filesystem. You're not using ext3 as a filesystem, right?
23:23<Aleric>Yes I am
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23:23<ChrisKnadle>Interesting. Well at some point the behavior of ext3 was changed not to automatically do a sync to disk every few seconds.
23:23<ChrisKnadle>Whenever I get a crash or hard poweroff when running KDE4 I loose all kinds of settings.
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23:23<Aleric>I rebooted cleanly, using my phone
23:24<Aleric>for remote access that is
23:24<Aleric>What is the name of this kde panel application?
23:24<ChrisKnadle>Hmm. Not sure, let me look
23:27<ChrisKnadle>Highlighting the panel calls it a "Panel Tool Box"
23:27<ChrisKnadle>I don't think it's a separate process, though
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23:36<Aleric>It's back!
23:36<Aleric>All by itself
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23:36<Aleric>So, I guess it was indeed the temporal disactivation... I really need to know what the short-cut was to get it back, for next time :/
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23:41<ChrisKnadle>I've been trying to figure out how to use shortcuts with panels, and haven't been able to figure it out.
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