| --- | Log | opened Thu Mar 22 00:00:04 2012 |
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| 01:13 | <Tuggers> | I have a GSOC idea for enhancing the Debian install disc that will reduce the load on mirrors and potentially make install disc downloads faster |
| 01:13 | <sney_> | #debian-boot is where the installer people live, mostly |
| 01:13 | <Tuggers> | thank you |
| 01:14 | <blawiz> | anyone else having trouble with uzbl? the [] and not [cmd] prob? |
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| 01:20 | <Lanz> | DO NOT UPGRADE today if you're running unstable. libpcre3 is BROKEN |
| 01:20 | <Lanz> | Many GUI programs will stop working |
| 01:20 | <blawiz> | holy crap! |
| 01:21 | <Lanz> | (installing the one from testing will fix if you already upgraded libpcre3) |
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| 01:26 | <jalcine_> | Lol oh man |
| 01:26 | <jalcine_> | talk about a warning. |
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| 02:30 | <sasori> | ??? |
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| 02:37 | <ptr> | Hi, folks. Has anyone attempted to use debmirror in squeeze to mirror squeeze lately? I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. It seems to be working right up until it hits a bunch of 404s in squeeze-proposed-updates/contrib/binary-adm64/Packages.diff/* |
| 02:38 | <ptr> | squeeze and squeeze-updates both seem to work; it's just squeeze-proposed-updates that doesn't |
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| 02:43 | <bones_was_here> | ptr: idk anything about doing that, but sometimes a mirror doesn't sync properly and has missing or corrupt files, so try a different source if you havn't already |
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| 02:46 | <ptr> | bones_was_here: well, except I'm using http.us.debian.org, and it was also true a few months ago |
| 02:46 | <ptr> | not critical, but it's strange |
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| 02:48 | <bones_was_here> | the country.debian.org resolves to a randomly selected mirror in that country |
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| 02:49 | <bones_was_here> | but yeah thats a long time for a breakage to exist |
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| 03:34 | <chris1> | gi, i am using icedove on squeeze and read the security update for it yesterday, however refreshing with aptitude the update isnt there? |
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| 03:35 | <chris1> | s/gi/hi |
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| 03:35 | <jm_> | it was the same the other day with nginx, and the day after it was available on security.d.o - not quite sure why |
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| 03:37 | <chris1> | jm_: so you guess its available later? |
| 03:37 | <jm_> | chris1: msot likely yes |
| 03:37 | <chris1> | ok thanks |
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| 03:57 | <ptr> | So, when preseeding a debian install, I'm not sure how to specify default kernel parameters for the installed system. What package controls this? |
| 03:58 | <ptr> | grub. gotta be grub. |
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| 03:58 | <ptr> | found it. |
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| 04:00 | <ptr> | grub-pc grub2/linux_cmdline_default |
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| 04:20 | <ptr> | OK, better question: is there any way to configure multiple network interfaces by preseeding debian-installer, and to specify the name for each one (by mac address)? |
| 04:21 | <ptr> | The closest thing I found was http://www.debian-administration.org/article/DebianInstaller_Remotely_with_Multiple_Network_Interfaces/print , which requires hardcoding the changes into the initrd |
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| 04:30 | <kik> | hi,ppl, need proverbs incraped in distro, could you?:-) |
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| 04:34 | <yumpinyon> | hello all, i been trying for 2long to get wireless connects 2 pop up. will pay someone through pay-pal to help me.. ty |
| 04:35 | <kik> | beer: milwaukee,wi,usa anyone from us? |
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| 04:39 | <yumpinyon> | everyone sleeping |
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| 04:40 | <jm_> | !wifi |
| 04:40 | <dpkg> | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <killswitch>, <wpa>, <wlan howto>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 04:40 | <jm_> | try the wiki page |
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| 04:41 | <yumpinyon> | i have ralink 5390 |
| 04:42 | <DragonDon> | hey jm_ , I see you are in a better mood today :) That was good info. |
| 04:43 | <jm_> | DragonDon: I was in good mood yesterday too :) |
| 04:43 | <DragonDon> | Oh I'd use some different words but I would hate to invoke the banninator script on me ;) |
| 04:43 | <jm_> | for 5390 try http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800pci |
| 04:43 | <jm_> | not to worry, I can't do that anyway |
| 04:44 | <yumpinyon> | ok thanks jm |
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| 04:44 | <jm_> | yumpinyon: no worries |
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| 04:48 | <DragonDon> | oh wasn't worry about you doing it, the mods. Some of them get downright picky when using 'colourful words' , heh |
| 04:48 | <kik> | is any korean? |
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| 04:48 | <DragonDon> | I ain't Korean but I am in Korea :) |
| 04:49 | <kik> | webcam? |
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| 04:49 | <jm_> | interesting, we had a feller from .nz in korea too in this channel some years ago, but haven't seen him after he left the place |
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| 04:50 | <DragonDon> | kik, why do you want my webcam? especially if you aren't in Korea? |
| 04:50 | <DragonDon> | funny thing about the interwebs, has all kinds of people from the world :) |
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| 04:51 | <DragonDon> | I decided I'm going to get serious about running Linux. I mean, I ran Ubuntu on another machine after getting tired of windows on it, but I want to push my learning. |
| 04:52 | <DragonDon> | I'm not really into games but there is one coming out that I might like to try, and before I plunk down any cash, I want to make sure I understand how games run on LInux systems. |
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| 04:53 | <babilen> | DragonDon: Could I interest you in #debian-offtopic or #moocows? Both are social chat channels which I guess are to your liking. |
| 04:53 | <DragonDon> | Sigh, "need some clearence for 1m eu prize" really?, can someone ban kik from this channel.... |
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| 04:56 | <kik> | не за что, йа с дебилами не общаюсь:-) |
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| 04:56 | <jm_> | DragonDon: if you mean native linux games the best option is most likely nvidia binary only driver - phoronix has some tests |
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| 04:57 | <DragonDon> | babilen, thanks but am trying to figure out if anyone has any experience in gaming on Debian, so far no takers. Will keep those channels in mind, thanks. |
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| 05:00 | <babilen> | DragonDon: I haven't played any games in about ten years, but Linux really isn't a good platform for gaming. You can surely play some of the games that have been released for it or others in, say, wine, but you won't have "the MS Windows experience" when it comes to games. |
| 05:01 | <DragonDon> | jm_, being somewhat impatient, I looked at what was available when I bought my parts, and the nVidia card I saw did not do well on Linux (according to some), I ended up with an ATI Radeon HD6570 |
| 05:02 | <DragonDon> | I suppose virtual box might be an ok alternative as well? |
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| 05:03 | <jm_> | DragonDon: really? it's definitely number 1 choice if you need 3d accel. |
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| 05:03 | <DragonDon> | I have read that in many places, I was talking about a specific card that was available at the place I was buying parts. I don't recall exactly which card but GTS450 seems to come to mind... |
| 05:04 | <DragonDon> | nope, wasn't that one.....don't recall which it was. |
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| 05:06 | <jm_> | I had gts450 in my old machine after the older card died |
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| 05:07 | <DragonDon> | <shrug>, building a machine to Linux is rather difficult to plan here. Still, I can always change the video card at any point but this one is working pretty good so far. |
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| 05:34 | <intore_> | hi, i have a problem with a pc with squeeze. it has 3 network interfaces, but only was configured during the debian installation |
| 05:34 | <intore_> | yesterday was ok and updated the system |
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| 05:36 | <intore_> | then i disconnected the cable and now i don't remember which is the configured network interface |
| 05:36 | <jm_> | check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 05:37 | <intore_> | i tried for everyone with ifup to have an address but it doesn't run |
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| 05:39 | <intore_> | thanks, now how can i identify every interface? |
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| 05:41 | <jm_> | well MAC addresses are assigned per manufacturers, so that's something that can help |
| 05:42 | <jm_> | to check cable status you can use ethtool, but most drivers will report "link up" event via a kernel message |
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| 05:43 | <intore_> | but with ifup the answer is: No DHCPOFFERS, No working leases in persistent database - aleeping |
| 05:44 | <jm_> | well it won't get an offer if it's not plugged in :) |
| 05:44 | <intore_> | mmmmm |
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| 05:57 | <ayaka> | could new udev work with 2.6 kernel |
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| 05:57 | <bluenemo> | hi guys, i've did some experiments with my initramfs decryption scripts and now i'm in initramfs shell :) i managed to decrypt my root partition, as this is present now how do i proceed with booting / what do i have to enter to get out of the initramfs shell and resume normal booting? if you've got a link / howto pls send me, didnt find anything good |
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| 05:58 | <jm_> | bluenemo: exit |
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| 06:01 | <bluenemo> | jm_ ah nice thank you :) works like a charm :) |
| 06:01 | <bluenemo> | and it does know by itself which scripts it didnt execute yet? |
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| 06:05 | <intore_> | ok, i can know the mac addresses corresponding to the interfaces names (eth0, eth1, eth2) but physically how can i identify the interfaces? |
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| 06:28 | <zdf> | hi |
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| 06:50 | <debianer> | hello |
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| 06:51 | <debianer> | Is it possible to make a debian repository fron the DVD set (8 DVDs downloaded from debian.org)? |
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| 07:00 | <ayaka> | could new udev work with 2.6 kernel |
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| 07:24 | <DragonDon> | how does one fix a lack of space issue "ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No space left on device" |
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| 07:24 | <petemc> | DragonDon: delete things is one way |
| 07:24 | <DragonDon> | df -Th tells me what space is used up but how do I clean out something like rootfs? |
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| 07:24 | <DragonDon> | the key here is what to delete.... |
| 07:24 | <jm_> | look at things in /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache/apt/archives ... |
| 07:25 | <jm_> | only you knows that to delete, we can only guess |
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| 07:25 | <jm_> | know* |
| 07:25 | <DragonDon> | knows sounded like a good redneck accesnt :) |
| 07:25 | <DragonDon> | accent |
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| 07:27 | <DragonDon> | what cache is ldconfig referring to? |
| 07:27 | <ayaka> | does udev in wheezy can support kernel 2.6.35.14 |
| 07:27 | * | Dmitry shakes hands with chattr |
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| 07:28 | <chattr> | hey there, Dmitry |
| 07:28 | <Dmitry> | chattr, hi, how goes it? |
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| 07:29 | <chattr> | fine. I'm on my weekend right now - off tonight and tomorrow night. you? |
| 07:29 | <Dmitry> | I am not bad, thx. Studying... |
| 07:30 | <jm_> | man page for ldconfig tells you about cache in FILES section |
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| 07:44 | <DragonDon> | ok, so I have run out of space on my rootfs. As I have LVM setup, I could use some help in the best way to handle correcting this. Suggestions? |
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| 07:55 | <ayaka> | what is the meaning of udevd[209]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented |
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| 07:59 | <rgms> | Hi. I'm getting the following error after running apt-get upgrade |
| 07:59 | <rgms> | /usr/bin/gdbus: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 07:59 | <rgms> | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 07:59 | <rgms> | I was upgrading desktop-file-utils |
| 08:01 | <rgms> | running sid |
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| 08:01 | <daemonkeeper> | Yes, libpcre3 is broken. |
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| 08:02 | <jm_> | rgms: you should really learn to check BTS if you are using sid |
| 08:03 | <gdb> | rgms: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664983 |
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| 08:04 | <gdb> | Do note that if you want a system with "always current software" but want to avoid the headaches of issues like the one documented in bug 664983, then testing is what you may prefer running. |
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| 08:06 | <rgms> | jm_ BTS? |
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| 08:06 | <gdb> | Bug Tracking System -- Something that one running sid really does need to be familiar with. ;-) |
| 08:06 | <rgms> | Haven't had much trouble with sid yet |
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| 08:07 | <gdb> | Well, that's because mistakes are rare, but the purpose of sid is to catch the very issues you've run into. |
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| 08:08 | <rgms> | Yeah guess so |
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| 08:08 | <gdb> | Anyway, there are workaround options provided in that bug report, IIRC. |
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| 08:09 | <gdb> | I'm boring. I'm a fan of stable. ;-) |
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| 08:10 | <OdyX> | downloading the updated packages from incoming is a way better workaround than adding symlinks under the feet of dpkg |
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| 08:10 | <rgms> | one reason I upgraded from testing is that I really wanted the newest Iceweasel and wasn't aware of experimental |
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| 08:10 | <jm_> | rgms: iceweasel for squeeze from m.d.n would work fine too |
| 08:11 | <rgms> | Anyways thanks for the help, really appreciate it |
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| 08:11 | <gdb> | rgms: Absolutely! |
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| 08:11 | <rgms> | m.d.n? |
| 08:11 | <jm_> | !mdn |
| 08:11 | <dpkg> | Backports of the Iceweasel web browser and Icedove mail client are not available from <debian backports>. See http://mozilla.debian.net/ for newer Iceweasel and Icedove for squeeze, wheezy and sid. Work continues to get the packages into the official archive without breaking too many other applications using XUL. Also ask me about <transition>, <squeeze-backports>, <testing>. |
| 08:11 | <ayaka> | what is different between initrd and initramfs |
| 08:11 | <rgms> | oh alright :) |
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| 08:12 | <SynrG> | ayaka: people tend to use the terms interchangably |
| 08:12 | <jm_> | initramfs is far simpler |
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| 08:13 | <SynrG> | these days, the initial ramdisk is implemented in initramfs-tools |
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| 08:13 | <SynrG> | formerly initrd was used. |
| 08:13 | <ayaka> | SynrG you means just the different name? |
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| 08:14 | <SynrG> | ayaka: they both serve the same purpose, yes. but technically, the implementation is different. |
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| 08:14 | <SynrG> | ayaka: however, such technical differences are mostly not understood by users, hence they tend to use the two terms interchangably, even though that's not strictly correct |
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| 08:14 | <SynrG> | we've been used to calling the thing 'initrd' for years and years ... old habits die hard |
| 08:15 | <ayaka> | SynrG well, i am not a user i am student |
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| 08:15 | <SynrG> | regardless, you need to understand that these days when people say 'initrd' they probably mean 'initramfs' |
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| 08:16 | <DragonDon> | how does one resize a partition when it is on an LVM? is it treated the same as a normal partition? |
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| 08:16 | <ayaka> | SynrG i know, but could you tell me more detail about initramfs's advance |
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| 08:17 | <SynrG> | ayaka: you can google for initrd vs initramfs and get many articles |
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| 08:18 | <ayaka> | SynrG thank you very much, it's hard to guest out search key in english |
| 08:19 | <jm_> | heck searching for "what is different between initrd and initramfs" will find many of them |
| 08:19 | * | SynrG nods |
| 08:21 | <ayaka> | jm_ wow, search key can be a sentence? |
| 08:22 | <SynrG> | google tries its best to find the words close to each other when you put double-quotes around it |
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| 08:22 | <SynrG> | it will prefer exact matches of the sentence, but failing that, uses some sort of proximity rule |
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| 08:22 | <ayaka> | SynrG i know it |
| 08:23 | <SynrG> | hmm, looks like i'm wrong about that |
| 08:24 | <ayaka> | SynrG what is wrong |
| 08:24 | <SynrG> | oh, it only uses the fallback if no exact matches are found. got it |
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| 08:24 | <SynrG> | nothing. i was only slightly wrong in my mind about it, not in what i said. :) |
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| 08:24 | <SynrG> | "what is the difference between initrd and initramfs" is a better phrase |
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| 08:25 | <SynrG> | or just leave off the double-quotes |
| 08:26 | <ayaka> | SynrG thank you, i don't notice there should be a name word, well I am tring reading a page now |
| 08:26 | <ayaka> | and I should ask mutliarch in next or here |
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| 09:08 | <ayaka> | does udev in wheezy can support kernel 2.6.35.14 |
| 09:10 | <intore> | hi, am come back |
| 09:10 | <intore> | i 've a problem with my pc with squueze and 3 network interfaces |
| 09:11 | <ayaka> | intore the nat? |
| 09:11 | <intore> | yesterday everything was ok, it had an ip address and i updated the system |
| 09:11 | <intore> | the nat? |
| 09:13 | <intore> | after i disconnected the network cable and today i don't remember the which is the eth1 |
| 09:13 | <ayaka> | intore it seems you old question has been solved |
| 09:13 | <intore> | eth1 is the one i used yesterday |
| 09:13 | <intore> | ayaka: yes |
| 09:13 | <intore> | i solved it |
| 09:13 | <ayaka> | intore udev wouldn't change |
| 09:13 | <intore> | this is another thing! |
| 09:13 | <intore> | this is another oc |
| 09:13 | <intore> | this is another pc |
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| 09:15 | <amoe> | If a bug is tagged 'moreinfo', after providing the relevant info, should I untag it myself, or wait for the maintainer to do so? |
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| 09:15 | <intore> | now i've eth1 configured with dhcp |
| 09:16 | <intore> | and yesterday i updated the system using that interface |
| 09:16 | <intore> | today no, |
| 09:16 | <intore> | it doesn't have any address |
| 09:17 | <intore> | with ifup eth1 the answer is No DHCPOFFERS received |
| 09:18 | <intore> | No working leases in persistent database - sleeping |
| 09:18 | <intore> | with ifdown eth1 |
| 09:18 | <petemc> | ifconfig -a |
| 09:18 | <intore> | DHCPRELEASE on eth1 to 192.168.5.1 port 67 |
| 09:19 | <intore> | Network is unreachable |
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| 09:19 | <intore> | is it possible??? |
| 09:19 | <petemc> | ifconfig -a shows all available interfaces |
| 09:20 | <ayaka> | intore ping 192.168.5.1 |
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| 09:20 | <intore> | ifconfig -a shows me eth0-eth1 and eth2 |
| 09:21 | <intore> | without ip addresses |
| 09:21 | <petemc> | dmesh| grep eth |
| 09:21 | <petemc> | dmesg |
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| 09:21 | <petemc> | dmesg| grep link |
| 09:21 | <petemc> | check with interface has a link up |
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| 09:30 | <ayaka> | what is the meaning of udevd[209]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented |
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| 09:31 | <ccrow> | hi |
| 09:31 | <intore> | eth1: link is not ready |
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| 09:33 | <intore> | i tried with everyone |
| 09:33 | <intore> | always the same answer |
| 09:33 | <petemc> | you need to bring a link up before you can use an interface |
| 09:34 | <intore> | with ifup? |
| 09:34 | <petemc> | no |
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| 09:34 | <petemc> | it should negotiate the link itself |
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| 09:34 | <petemc> | if it doesnt, something is wrong, or there is no cable |
| 09:35 | <intore> | yesterday was ok and i didn't change nothing |
| 09:35 | <intore> | there is the cable |
| 09:35 | <intore> | the leds also |
| 09:35 | <petemc> | unplug and replug the cable, look at dmesg |
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| 09:35 | <jm_> | check the LED-s on your NIC and also on the other end, like I said previously, you can use ethtool to check link status/adjust link negotiation |
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| 09:37 | <intore> | plugged and unplugged every interface |
| 09:37 | <petemc> | you should do one at a time |
| 09:37 | <petemc> | then you know which is which |
| 09:38 | <petemc> | unplug/replug - look at dmesg, rinse and repeat |
| 09:38 | <intore> | am sorry, i don't understand |
| 09:38 | <jm_> | unplug everything ; dmesg > /tmp/d1 ; plug one ; dmesg > /tmp/d2 ; diff /tmp/d1 /tmp/d2 |
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| 09:41 | <jm_> | if none reports link up you need to find out why (bad cable, other end not cooperating, ...) |
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| 09:42 | <intore> | every dmesg has the same answer: eth1: link is not ready |
| 09:42 | <intore> | i change cable |
| 09:42 | <jm_> | even when you plugged a cable in all 3 NIC-s? |
| 09:43 | <jm_> | (not needed at the same time obviously) |
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| 09:44 | <intore> | i plugged the same cable for everyone |
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| 09:46 | <intore> | nothing, with another cable is the same situation |
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| 09:46 | <intore> | there are leds in everyone and on the switch also |
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| 09:48 | <White_Rabbit> | hi! I'm using calc 3.4.5 on debian testing. In tools->options->libreoffice->fonts I have set "Free Sans 11". I have set the same for the whole sheet (click in the top left corner -> format -> cells -> font). If I highlight some text in a web page and middle-click to paste it in a cell, it is pasted as "Liberation Serif 10" which is not even the default font for new documents (the default is liberation sans). I'd like |
| 09:50 | <chealer> | White_Rabbit: your message was truncated at " I'd like " |
| 09:51 | <rgms> | any fast way to 'refresh' an ssd on debian? I guess the idea is just to write the ssd full of zeroes |
| 09:51 | <White_Rabbit> | I'd like calc to just use the font I have set for the cell, what should I do? |
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| 09:53 | <intore> | any idea? |
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| 09:54 | <artur> | ola |
| 09:55 | <artur> | ola |
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| 09:55 | <artur> | ola a todos |
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| 09:57 | <MrX> | hi. |
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| 10:01 | <intore> | do i have to put it in the rubbish?!?! |
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| 10:02 | <petemc> | intore: are the cables plugged into a switch? |
| 10:02 | <intore> | yes |
| 10:02 | <petemc> | are other machines using that switch? |
| 10:02 | <intore> | yes |
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| 10:03 | <MrX> | The latest linux-image-3.2.0-2 fails to start on my PC, while the linux-image-3.2.0-1 works fine, is that a known issue? I'm trying to search on the bug tracking system but links2 isn't very practical |
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| 10:08 | <intore> | the others machines run |
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| 10:09 | <movl> | MrX: how 'bout some more information? what does "fail" mean? did you check the logs? what hardware? etc. |
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| 10:10 | <MrX> | movl, bug #663379 |
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| 10:11 | <MrX> | with a small difference, it fails both with a RT kernel and a non-RT kernel |
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| 10:11 | <intore> | right now i was ready for my first ldap installation!!! |
| 10:11 | <petemc> | intore: check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages |
| 10:12 | <MrX> | the hardware is Zotac ZBOX AD02 (E-350 based) |
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| 10:13 | <romario> | ку |
| 10:13 | <romario> | hello |
| 10:13 | <Dmitry> | Russia? |
| 10:13 | <romario> | ukraine |
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| 10:14 | <Dmitry> | ah, brother Ukrainian |
| 10:14 | <movl> | MrX: looks like the problem was solved in the end, by reading the bug |
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| 10:14 | <Dmitry> | romario, from which region? |
| 10:14 | <romario> | im from Crimea |
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| 10:14 | <Dmitry> | hehe, Donbass here |
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| 10:14 | <romario> | cool) Donetsk?Yanukovich?) |
| 10:14 | <themill> | Dmitry, romario: perhaps you wanted #moocows or #debian-offtopic |
| 10:15 | <Dmitry> | themill, yes we do :) |
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| 10:15 | <intore> | petemc: i redirect nano /var/log/syslog on a file |
| 10:15 | <BrunoIpexy> | hi, i'm from Belém-PA-Brazil |
| 10:15 | <intore> | am waiting for that |
| 10:15 | * | Dmitry moved to #debian-offtopic |
| 10:15 | <petemc> | intore: what? |
| 10:15 | <petemc> | just tail it... |
| 10:16 | <intore> | i installed in textual mode |
| 10:16 | <petemc> | so? |
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| 10:16 | <petemc> | just look at the log |
| 10:17 | <intore> | and with nano /var/log/syslog i can see only the last 20 lines |
| 10:17 | <petemc> | dont use nano |
| 10:17 | <petemc> | use a pager or tail |
| 10:17 | <intore> | so which one? |
| 10:17 | <petemc> | you decide |
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| 10:18 | <intore> | with tail i can see the last lines when it was waiting for an address |
| 10:19 | <petemc> | tail -f /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages |
| 10:19 | <petemc> | unplug/replug |
| 10:20 | <MrX> | movl: do you know when linux-image-3.2.0-3 will be out? I think I'll just wait for the patch |
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| 10:21 | <movl> | MrX: I don't, but ask the maintainer(s) |
| 10:21 | <MrX> | I need to install ~1GB of packages to re-build the kernel... |
| 10:22 | <intore> | thanks to this command i found which is eth1 |
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| 10:22 | <petemc> | intore: you should have determined that long ago |
| 10:22 | <movl> | MrX: why is that a problem? disk space? |
| 10:23 | <MrX> | movl, very slow internet connection |
| 10:23 | <movl> | oh |
| 10:23 | <movl> | well, you better wait for 3.2.0-3 |
| 10:24 | <intore> | petemc: this is the first time i have seen the message eth1 becomes ready |
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| 10:24 | <intore> | but with ifup eth1 it doesn't keep ip |
| 10:24 | <MrX> | movl, any maintainer here on IRC? (I don't have X right now, I can't mail) |
| 10:24 | <movl> | I don't know their IRC handles |
| 10:25 | <MrX> | ok. |
| 10:25 | <movl> | and you can easily send by webmail with elinks, for example |
| 10:25 | <movl> | or set up mutt :) |
| 10:26 | <ayaka> | what is the meaning of udevd[209]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented |
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| 10:27 | <intore> | ifup eth1 |
| 10:27 | <intore> | No DHCPOFFERS received |
| 10:27 | <intore> | ifdown eth1 |
| 10:27 | <intore> | Network is unreachable |
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| 10:29 | <petemc> | intore: do you have access to the dhcp server? |
| 10:30 | <intore> | yes |
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| 10:30 | <petemc> | check syslog on that machine |
| 10:30 | <petemc> | you should see lines like: Mar 22 14:29:59 mail dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:1d:72:ce:51:92 via eth1 |
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| 10:33 | <_930_> | Hi is there somewhere I can find out when libapache2-mod-php5 v 5.4 will be in stable, right now it's in testing, but is there some kind of package maintainers schedule or estimated release time or something? |
| 10:34 | <_930_> | Or should I check with these guys?: pkg-php-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org |
| 10:35 | <sney_> | it will be in stable when wheezy becomes stable |
| 10:35 | <themill> | _930_: squeeze will never have php5.4; squeeze-backports should have php5.4 quite soon |
| 10:35 | <sney_> | debian stable doesn't get new versions |
| 10:36 | <_930_> | oh ok thanks guys! |
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| 10:37 | <intore> | petemc: NO FREE LEASES!!!!!!! |
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| 10:37 | <MrX> | movl: thank you for your help |
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| 10:37 | <movl> | yw |
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| 10:39 | <intore> | petemc: this dhcp server has 50 ip addresses available to assign |
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| 10:40 | <petemc> | intore: great |
| 10:40 | <intore> | what? |
| 10:40 | <intore> | is not possible! |
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| 10:40 | <intore> | there are not 50 machines connected |
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| 10:41 | <petemc> | intore: my suggestion would be you check your dhcp server configuration |
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| 10:42 | <intore> | ok, i cheked it and the range is from 150 to 199 |
| 10:42 | <intore> | with nmap i found 9 machines |
| 10:42 | <intore> | connected |
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| 10:43 | <intore> | could be the lease time? |
| 10:43 | <intore> | the problem? |
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| 10:46 | <intore> | maybe not because yesterday this pc had his ip address |
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| 10:49 | <sudev> | hello |
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| 10:50 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 512] by debhelper |
| 10:50 | <sudev> | what is happening in here? |
| 10:50 | <sudev> | i dont understand anything |
| 10:50 | <sudev> | ............................ |
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| 10:51 | <sudev> | yooooooooooooooo yooooooooooooooooyooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 10:52 | <intore> | am without electricity |
| 10:52 | <intore> | have to turn off every thing |
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| 10:53 | <intore> | see you soon |
| 10:53 | * | xfire78xx giorno |
| 10:53 | <intore> | bye |
| 10:53 | * | xfire78xx giorno |
| 10:53 | <sudev> | ......... |
| 10:53 | <sudev> | . |
| 10:53 | <sudev> | . |
| 10:53 | <sudev> | . |
| 10:53 | -!- | sudev was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
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| 11:40 | <ayaka> | what is the meaning of udevd[209]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented |
| 11:40 | <sney_> | sounds like a warning |
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| 11:57 | <ayaka> | yep |
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| 11:58 | <intore> | we have the light! |
| 11:58 | <Dmitry> | yahoo! |
| 11:58 | <ayaka> | sney_ but I saw many in syslog, I can't sure whether udev work in final |
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| 11:58 | <intore> | hi, i have a question about dhcpd leases |
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| 11:59 | <intore> | how could i check the ip addresses released by dhcpd? |
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| 12:18 | <Aleric> | What package do I need for 'spreadsheet' to work in LibreOffice? |
| 12:19 | <movl> | calc |
| 12:20 | <movl> | libreoffice-calc |
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| 12:25 | <Aleric> | thanks |
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| 12:33 | <ayaka> | sney_ thank you |
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| 12:44 | <danarky> | greetings |
| 12:44 | <danarky> | i have a quick question, if anyone can help me |
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| 12:45 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
| 12:45 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:46 | <danarky> | I notice that wheezy has kernel version 3.2.0 in the repository. If I wanted to to get 3.2.5, would I have to compile it myself? |
| 12:46 | <retrospectacus> | ,kernels |
| 12:46 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.3.0-trunk-686-pae (3.3-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.12-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.9-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.9-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
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| 12:47 | <retrospectacus> | danarky: why do you want to do that? |
| 12:47 | <danarky> | the power saving features of 3.2.5 |
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| 12:47 | <danarky> | so why is it 3.2.0-2 with 3.2.9-1 in parentheses? |
| 12:47 | <danarky> | i don't think i understand that |
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| 12:48 | <retrospectacus> | good question. me neither |
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| 12:48 | <danarky> | my laptop has really high power consumption w/ the 3.0 kernel, and 3.2.5 has some fixes for that |
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| 12:50 | <retrospectacus> | well you should go to #debian-next to continue, this channel is supposed to be for stable only |
| 12:50 | <danarky> | I'll guess that the (3.2.9-1) means that it'll have the features of the 3.2.5 kernel |
| 12:50 | <retrospectacus> | presumably :) |
| 12:50 | <danarky> | oh ok i'll try that |
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| 12:50 | <danarky> | thanks |
| 12:50 | <retrospectacus> | sure, see you there |
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| 12:57 | <SynrG> | retrospectacus, danarky: what it means is that for ABI comaptibility reasons, debian does not change the upstream version# unless there is an actual change of ABI |
| 12:57 | <danarky> | oh i see |
| 12:57 | <SynrG> | the parentheses indicates the debian revision#. in most packages this is a simple -1, -2, etc. by convention the kernel team lists here which upstream version# it actually has merged. |
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| 12:58 | <crane> | moin moin |
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| 12:58 | <crane> | kann mir jemand helfen bei meinem logrotate problem? mein mail.log will einfach nicht rotiert werden und ich versteh nicht wieso :/ |
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| 13:00 | <daemonkeeper> | !de |
| 13:00 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 13:03 | <crane> | daemonkeeper, oh sry... wrong channel... nervermind i will repeat in englisch ;) |
| 13:03 | <crane> | my logrotate is not rotating my mail.log and i've got no hint why it's not |
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| 13:03 | <crane> | can somebody help me please? |
| 13:03 | <SynrG> | also, you can see in the debian changelog which upstream version#s were actually merged |
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| 13:05 | <SynrG> | danarky: sorry for the lack of continuity. my connection back home dropped. that last comment of mine was for you. |
| 13:06 | <danarky> | thanks for the help :) |
| 13:06 | <SynrG> | crane: possibly because you have an MTA that does not actually use mail.log? what's the date on the most recent one? |
| 13:06 | <danarky> | i think i can finally drop windows and put a decent OS on my laptop now |
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| 13:06 | <crane> | SynrG, i'm using postfix and the mail.log is 77MB xD |
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| 13:07 | <retrospectacus> | crane: is there a file for postfix / mail.log in /etc/logrotate.d/ ? |
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| 13:08 | <SynrG> | retrospectacus: i can answer that. no, there isn't. but it doesn't seem to matter. |
| 13:08 | <SynrG> | i think postfix manages this itself |
| 13:08 | <retrospectacus> | hmmm |
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| 13:09 | <SynrG> | so it's likely crane has a broken postfix config |
| 13:09 | <SynrG> | maybe one imported from a non-debian system? |
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| 13:10 | <SynrG> | as configured out of the box, postfix on squeeze rotates logs fine for me. |
| 13:10 | <crane> | retrospectacus, SynrG i configrued my mail.log in /etc/logrotate.d/syslog-ng |
| 13:11 | <crane> | i forced it now but i think that i will run next week into the same problem |
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| 13:11 | <SynrG> | i think it's best if you just let postfix manage it on its own |
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| 13:12 | <crane> | i'm running several servers with the same config... it's the first one which makes trouble |
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| 13:13 | <SynrG> | possibly the other servers assume an external log rotation is in effect |
| 13:13 | <SynrG> | are the others debian squeeze servers? |
| 13:14 | <crane> | yes |
| 13:14 | <crane> | all with squeeze, syslog-ng and postfix |
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| 13:19 | <ayaka> | what is the meaning of udevd[209]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented |
| 13:19 | <ayaka> | sney_ but I saw many in syslog, I can't sure whether udev work in final |
| 13:19 | <ayaka> | but I saw many in syslog, I can't sure whether udev work in final |
| 13:19 | <ayaka> | sney_ sorry |
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| 13:22 | <retrospectacus> | ayaka: plenty of google results for that error, and bugs.debian.org/648325 |
| 13:22 | <SynrG> | ayaka: probably want to try that again with --debug |
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| 13:24 | <SynrG> | crane: stumped. you want someone who knows postfix better than i do. i have no idea how the logs are rotated without a specific logrotate rule for it |
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| 13:24 | <ayaka> | SynrG but how to |
| 13:25 | <ayaka> | retrospectacus not suitable, I can't login |
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| 13:25 | <SynrG> | ayaka: /etc/udev/udev.conf says: # For runtime debugging, the daemons internal state can be changed with: "udevadm control --log-priority=<value>". |
| 13:26 | <SynrG> | where 'debug' is one of the allowable values |
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| 13:26 | <ayaka> | maybe I should ask does udev in wheezy can work with 2.6.35.14 kernel |
| 13:26 | <SynrG> | it does sound like udev is asking the kernel for something the kernel can't do |
| 13:27 | <SynrG> | generally your udev should match your kernel |
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| 13:27 | <SynrG> | what motivated you to try wheezy's udev with an old kernel? |
| 13:27 | <ayaka> | SynrG can't, maybe I should downgrade it |
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| 13:28 | <ayaka> | SynrG because htc only release 2.6 version kernel although it container all the drivers |
| 13:30 | <ayaka> | but it maybe cause by the other issue, dmesg don't show udev http://paste.debian.net/160612/ |
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| 13:30 | <SynrG> | sounds like you have a mess on your hands, then, if you're forced to mix components from different releases. good luck |
| 13:30 | <ayaka> | SynrG i never give up fixing debian in my mobile |
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| 13:31 | <SynrG> | you have more patience for that than i would :) but ultimately, will anyone be able to repeat what you've accomplished? |
| 13:31 | <SynrG> | it sounds messy |
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| 13:34 | <ayaka> | SynrG no, I have to try myself, fix and replace |
| 13:35 | <SynrG> | i mean, are the things you're learning fed back upstream as patches to improve things for future generations of users or is this strictly for your own amusement? |
| 13:35 | <SynrG> | (or if not patches, at least bugs) |
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| 13:35 | <ayaka> | maybe the month htc release its ICS kernel, it is 3.03 |
| 13:36 | <ayaka> | SynrG no, htc create many driver, Ifind upstream, no use |
| 13:36 | <SynrG> | you don't have access to that until they release it? it may be less troublesome to use a prerelease than your current round of troubles with the old kernel |
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| 13:38 | <ayaka> | SynrG prerelease? htc don't do that |
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| 13:43 | <berto> | is there a standard way to have a daemon restarted when you upgrade a library? |
| 13:43 | <ayaka> | SynrG thank you very much |
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| 13:44 | <ayaka> | berto it's advance of debian, it don't need it |
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| 13:44 | <berto> | ? |
| 13:45 | <berto> | I mean this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=355482 |
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| 13:45 | <SynrG> | ayaka: it doesn't sound like a very open development process. so you're stuck either waiting or resorting to ugly hacks. if you do the latter, you're stuck without any support from the community. to me, that's a bad enough place to be in to make it not worth my bother to do. |
| 13:45 | <SynrG> | ayaka: but that's just me |
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| 13:46 | <dn3s> | hello, i'm back! i'm having some init script trouble. trying to get a python program to run at startup, and the init script doesn't seem to be running at all. |
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| 13:47 | <SynrG> | berto: that's a really ancient bug. i know some important libraries do force upgrades of several services automatically upon upgrade. is there a particular case you're worried about? |
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| 13:49 | <SynrG> | berto: in general, if a package upgrade requires a daemon to restart, it should restart it in its maintainer scripts, so that's not something a user needs to worry about |
| 13:49 | <SynrG> | if for your own reasons you want to restart a daemon to ensure a new version of a library is used, that's up to you |
| 13:49 | <ayaka> | I know rules in debian/ support forcing restart |
| 13:49 | <berto> | SynrG: it's in a library that I'm maintaining that so far is only being used by a daemon |
| 13:49 | <berto> | I can do it manually in the postinst script, it's quite simple |
| 13:50 | <SynrG> | ah. if this is a packaging question it really belongs on #debian-mentors, not here |
| 13:50 | <berto> | I was wondering if there was a standard way to do it |
| 13:50 | <berto> | ah ok |
| 13:50 | <ayaka> | SynrG it means if i want to get community support, I should wait kernel.org to support it |
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| 13:51 | <SynrG> | ayaka: or else help create a community to support it, yes :) |
| 13:53 | <ayaka> | SynrG well although I have readed ldde, but i have no ability to write even a simply driver, without techer, I don't know how to use it |
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| 13:57 | <ayaka> | s/ldde/ldd3 |
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| 13:57 | <dn3s> | anyone feeling like a bit of /etc/init.d today? |
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| 13:58 | <ayaka> | dn3s why not |
| 13:59 | <dn3s> | alrighty! i can't seem to get an init script to run on startup. i wrote a script and placed it in /etc/init.d (and chmod'd it). it runs fine if i call it manually, but when i reboot it does not run on startup |
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| 14:00 | <ayaka> | dn3s do you ln it to rc.3? |
| 14:00 | <SynrG> | dn3s: your questions so far lack enough precision for anyone to be able to help, though, so we're reduced to guesswork. maybe tell us what you've done, what you expect, and what happens instead? |
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| 14:01 | <SynrG> | on a debian system you would normally use update-rc.d to make those symlinks that ayaka mentions. see the update-rc.d man page |
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| 14:02 | <SynrG> | ideally, your python program would be delivered in a debian package that takes care of running update-rc.d at install / upgrade / removal time |
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| 14:02 | <dn3s> | sure thing. so i am trying to set up qwebirc. i have it installed to /etc/qwebirc. it's written in python btw, and starts by running run.py. so i put http://pastebin.com/URSmtrhz in /etc/init.d |
| 14:02 | <SynrG> | (especially if you're going to do this more than once) |
| 14:02 | <dn3s> | this is just for a personal server, so i don't need to worry about doing this more than once. |
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| 14:03 | <dn3s> | what i expect to happen is the script to run. instead, as far as i can see, the script isn't even called. |
| 14:03 | <SynrG> | right. hence the need for an rc.# symlink for the runlevel in which your system starts |
| 14:04 | <SynrG> | usually the defaults for update-rc.d are sufficient. so as i said, read that man page, then use it |
| 14:04 | <dn3s> | what is an rc.# symlink? my understanding of the init system is very superfical. i kind of thought maybe on startup it just runs /etc/init.d/* or something |
| 14:06 | <dn3s> | i'm going to wait to bother you as i found an article on debian-administration.org that may help |
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| 14:06 | <SynrG> | /etc/rc#.d where # is the digit of the runlevel |
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| 14:07 | <dn3s> | cool, that seems familiar |
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| 14:08 | <SynrG> | have you read that man page yet? it does explain it rather well :) |
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| 14:09 | <SynrG> | (though i have no problem with using debian-adminstration.org to supplement your learning, but generally consult the doc shipping with your actual packages first, as it is most likely to apply exactly to the versions you use) |
| 14:10 | <SynrG> | ... except when it doesn't ;) |
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| 14:13 | <dn3s> | oh fancy! i always find man pages a bit confusing, but i think i got it. just rebooting to test |
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| 14:14 | <C1iFF> | Hi there. I screwed up on my home dir and moved tons of files from Dropbox there. Can anyone help with a script to delete only these files? |
| 14:14 | <dn3s> | hooray, it worked! |
| 14:15 | <lokikp> | i would like to disable automatic load of ath9k mododule during boot ...# echo blacklist ath9k >> /etc/modprobe.d/atheroswireless.conf is addressing the problem???? |
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| 14:15 | <dn3s> | so thanks everyone. bye! |
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| 14:16 | <AgusLR> | yes lokikp, that is correct |
| 14:17 | <ayaka> | !tell lokikp about blacklist |
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| 14:23 | <lokikp> | thanks ayaka |
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| 16:36 | <fVckingmania> | Is there any channel to talk about MRTG?? |
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| 16:39 | <dondelelcaro> | avg_cu: there's #MRTG on freenode |
| 16:39 | <dondelelcaro> | avg_cu: but honestly, most people I know use munin |
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| 16:40 | <stian_> | Hi, im having some issues with my wireless.. can anyone help? |
| 16:40 | <dondelelcaro> | stian_: best to ask; someone might be able to help |
| 16:42 | <stian_> | well, iv'e just installed debian on my laptop, and it's got a key-combination to turn on-off wireless(fn+f12). I can't get it to work, and the problem is, its off! |
| 16:45 | <avg_cu> | dondelelcaro: munin let you monitor more than one service?? |
| 16:47 | <dondelelcaro> | avg_cu: yes |
| 16:47 | <dondelelcaro> | avg_cu: and it has tons of service monitors which are trivially enable-able. |
| 16:47 | <dondelelcaro> | !munin |
| 16:47 | <dpkg> | Munin (formerly LRRD) is a network and system monitoring application, presenting graphs via <rrdtool>. Examples: http://munin.ping.uio.no/ , http://demo.munin-monitoring.org/ (Munin 2.0 preview). http://munin-monitoring.org/ #munin on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:49 | <avg_cu> | dondelelcaro: thanks man!!! |
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| 17:13 | <mar_> | olaaa |
| 17:14 | <mar_> | porq no hablais |
| 17:14 | <mar_> | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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| 17:21 | <weox> | hello, i am newbie debian , i want install chromium with synaptic , in synaptic chromium version is 6 :D , how can i install last version of chrome ?? can i ?? |
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| 17:21 | <daemonkeeper> | Chrome isn't in Debian, only Chromium. |
| 17:22 | <weox> | daemonkeeper, i know , and i want install chromium !! but it's version is 6 ?? |
| 17:22 | <daemonkeeper> | Yes. |
| 17:23 | <daemonkeeper> | judd: versions chromium |
| 17:23 | <judd> | Package: chromium on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.13.2-1; squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; sid: 17.0.963.78~r125577-1; wheezy: 17.0.963.78~r125577-1 |
| 17:23 | <daemonkeeper> | And backport either |
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| 17:23 | <weox> | daemonkeeper, another things , when i want uninstall simple program like transmission !! it said : to remove : gnome |
| 17:24 | <retrospectacus> | ,versions chromium-browser |
| 17:24 | <judd> | Package: chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; sid: 17.0.963.78~r125577-1; wheezy: 17.0.963.78~r125577-1 |
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| 17:24 | <weox> | what is that mean ?? it mean that :: if i uninstall transmission , complate of gnome going to uninstalling ?? |
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| 17:26 | <retrospectacus> | weox: it's cause gnome includes transmission. You can remove gnome, and install other torrent programs, also install other gnome programs you want |
| 17:26 | <retrospectacus> | !unmarkauto |
| 17:26 | <dpkg> | Is apt trying to remove packages that it thinks were automatically installed? This happens when you "aptitude install gnome" and then later remove bits of it causing the gnome meta-package to be uninstalled and then all its dependencies. Fix this by running "aptitude unmarkauto packagename" on strategically chosen packages, or reinstall the <metapackage> (apt-get also has unmarkauto from squeeze onwards). |
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| 17:28 | <weox> | retrospectacus, yes ,, but it want uninstall complate of gnome !! |
| 17:29 | <retrospectacus> | yes. |
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| 17:29 | <SynrG> | weox: did you read the 'unmarkauto' factoid from dpkg above? retrospectacus brought that up for you to explain why. |
| 17:29 | <SynrG> | and what to do about it |
| 17:30 | <weox> | SyrnG: i read , and i am trying now !! |
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| 17:37 | <weox> | dpkg , i done that with apt-get remove , sorry for interrupt you , how can do that with synaptic ?? |
| 17:37 | <dpkg> | weox: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 17:39 | <weox> | can i do that with synaptic?? |
| 17:40 | <weox> | hello ?? everybody gone ?? |
| 17:40 | <devil> | everybody is here :) |
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| 17:41 | <weox> | devil, then why anybody dosnt help ?? |
| 17:41 | <devil> | my guess is, noboy knows, because noone uses synaptic maybe |
| 17:42 | <weox> | devil, ok tx |
| 17:42 | <devil> | why not do what the bot suggests |
| 17:42 | <chealer> | !tell weox about ask |
| 17:43 | <weox> | i have another simple problem .. when i trying uninstall openoffice , it going auto install abiword and other office, how can disable that ? i that want office in my system |
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| 17:44 | <devil> | weox: thst sounds a stupid thing to do |
| 17:44 | <chealer> | weox: you could install the latest chromium, but not easily. the latest Chromium is not in Debian 6. |
| 17:45 | <weox> | i that want office in my system: sorry this is what i meant : i dont want office in my system |
| 17:45 | <weox> | devil, i think now you can understand me? |
| 17:45 | <devil> | why would de-installing one office-suite install anotherone? i never heard of that happening |
| 17:45 | <devil> | but I never used gnome |
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| 17:47 | <chealer> | weox: removing transmission will not remove the GNOME desktop environment. The gnome package is only a metapackage which does not itself contain software. |
| 17:49 | <weox> | i done this:apt-get remove openoffice.org-core and it say's : The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 17:49 | <weox> | abiword abiword-common abiword-plugin-grammar abiword-plugin-mathview |
| 17:49 | <weox> | gnumeric |
| 17:49 | <weox> | and 12 13 another package ... |
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| 17:50 | <devil> | weox: well, that is insane if you ask me. and I guess, it's a gnome thing. no clue. |
| 17:51 | <devil> | weox: does apt-get purge openoffice.org* do the same thing |
| 17:52 | <chealer> | weox: that office issue is also due to the gnome metapackage. If you remove the metapackage, the issue will disappear. Keeping the gnome package has certain advantages, but I'd recommend you remove it in your case. |
| 17:52 | <weox> | devil , yes |
| 17:53 | <zlatan> | weox, remove gnome metapackage, and gnome-office package if installed |
| 17:53 | <weox> | chealer: how can do that ?? how can i remove metapackage and still have gnome ?? |
| 17:53 | <zlatan> | weox, apt-get remove gnome |
| 17:54 | <chealer> | weox: Simply uninstalling the gnome package (# apt-get remove gnome) will do that. |
| 17:54 | <chealer> | (as I said, "The gnome package is only a metapackage which does not itself contain software.") |
| 17:54 | <weox> | oh ,,, is that so ,, and i still have gnome -desktop or it's go?? |
| 17:54 | <zlatan> | weox, yep |
| 17:55 | <zlatan> | weox, you still have the gnome desktop after removal of gnome (metapackage) |
| 17:55 | <weox> | zlatan , chealer ,tx very much ,, now i try it :D |
| 17:56 | <weox> | look at this : Package gnome is not installed, so not removed |
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| 17:57 | <zlatan> | weox, okay, uninstall gnome-office package too |
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| 17:58 | <weox> | zlatan, dosnt work , again say that ,,, installing 20 21 package like abi-word abi-common and ... |
| 17:59 | <chealer> | zlatan: gnome-office is not the problem. gnome asks for either OpenOffice or Abiword |
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| 18:00 | <weox> | wait 1 min , i it i understand that !! |
| 18:00 | <weox> | i it i == i think i |
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| 18:02 | <zlatan> | chealer, weox http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=61570 |
| 18:03 | <chealer> | zlatan: oh. you're right, sorry. |
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| 18:04 | <chealer> | weox: you need to uninstall both the gnome package and gnome-office to solve your office suite issue. |
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| 18:05 | <weox> | chealer: how can do that ? |
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| 18:06 | <chealer> | weox: Simply uninstalling the gnome and gnome-office packages (# apt-get remove gnome gnome-office) will do that. |
| 18:07 | <zlatan> | weox, are you using terminal in root mode or synaptic? if terminal type the command above, if synaptic - find and remove the package |
| 18:07 | <weox> | chealer , yes , excellent work ,, thank you :D |
| 18:08 | <weox> | zlatan, terminal, thank you :D |
| 18:08 | <retrospectacus> | then you'll need to unmark-auto all the packages that gnome had provided, that you *do* want. Like, # apt-get unmarkauto evolution nautilus gnome-terminal rhythmox etc. |
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| 18:15 | <User13_> | retrospectacus, I think apt-mark unmarkauto gnome-desktop-environment would be enough or something like that :) |
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| 18:16 | <retrospectacus> | right, there are some smaller meta-packages |
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| 18:18 | <gnufan> | Investigating problem on virtual server running Debian Lenny. System stopped serving web pages. When I ssh in it produced a prompt, but commands weren't echoed or accepted after the prompt appeared. Nothing obvious logged. Console connection worked as expected. The clock appeared to have stalled (it is a XEN HVM guest). Wouldn't restart Apache, /etc/init.d/apache2 was sitting chucking kills around with sleeps in between which I'm guessing mean the usual shutdown |
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| 18:25 | <ansgar> | gnufan: You did notice that Lenny is no longer suppoerted? |
| 18:25 | <weox> | sorry for this stupid qustion , but i can't find GTK+3 lib in package's , what is it name ?? |
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| 18:26 | <retrospectacus> | libgtk-3-0 perhaps |
| 18:28 | <weox> | retrospectacus, no, there are no package like that , debian has GTK3 lib package ?? |
| 18:28 | <gnufan> | ansgar: yes, and there is a plan to upgrade it - at least if it can be kept working long enough at a stretch |
| 18:29 | <retrospectacus> | weox: I have libgtk-3-0 installed. Anyways why do you ask? |
| 18:29 | <chealer> | weox: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgtk-3-0 |
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| 18:30 | <retrospectacus> | oh right... gtk3 is for gnome3 stuff yeah? |
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| 18:32 | <weox> | retrospectacus : E: Unable to locate package libgtk-3-0 |
| 18:33 | <weox> | retrospectacus : can i upgrade to gnome 3 ?? |
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| 18:33 | <weox> | chealer: can i upgrade to gnome 3 ?? |
| 18:33 | <zlatan> | retrospectacus, gtk3 I believe isn't in squeeze |
| 18:33 | <retrospectacus> | right |
| 18:33 | <retrospectacus> | weox: why?? |
| 18:34 | <chealer> | weox: Ask the channel, I do not know GNOME. |
| 18:34 | <zlatan> | weox, you would need to upgrade to testing and I don't suggest that to you |
| 18:34 | <weox> | ok ... thank guy |
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| 18:34 | <weox> | 's , i should think about that |
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| 18:46 | <zlatan> | gnufan, hm, did you try to force restart of apache2 |
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| 18:51 | <gnufan> | zlatan no - I did /etc/init.d/apache restart |
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| 18:52 | <zlatan> | gnufan, try /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload |
| 18:55 | <gnufan> | zlatan: I think in the circumstance, killing the virtual server itself and restarting was the only sensible route. The machine appears to have had its clock stall - I presume an oddity of XEN HVM. You'd have though system time calls would be the easy thing to sort in a virtual machine but that shows my naivety with regard to how clocks work in Linux. |
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| 18:57 | <zlatan> | gnufan, so...is it okay now or you still have the issues? |
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| 18:58 | <zlatan> | gnufan, if you have some specific details on problem and its still there, I suggest you try searching inside debian forums |
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| 18:59 | <zlatan> | gnufan, afterall, its lenny - not anymore supported...so forums might provide nice help |
| 18:59 | <gnufan> | zlatan: worst thing about having the clock misbehave is I don't know if the large number of email log entries are genuine or took place over a 30 minute period. Rebooting fixed the immediate issues, but this is the second hang in two days. Seems to be only this guest that is having issues. Unclear if the two hangs are the same issue, it was low on memory yesterday so I tweaked the apache prefork settings to free some RAM, and today it hung without memory issues p |
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| 19:02 | <gnufan> | zlatan: the problem is that XEN (and virtualisation in general) clock stuff is generally borked, the obvious search terms throw up hundreds of pages of people trying to get a sensibly behaving clock in the first place. I suspect the secret is to use real hardware and eschew virtualization till they have the bugs out ;) |
| 19:05 | <zlatan> | gnufan, hm, not sure - could be. Maybe you should try with ntp...and you must upgrade as soon as possible :) |
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| 19:07 | <rudak> | salut |
| 19:07 | <rudak> | je decouvre irc |
| 19:07 | <rudak> | ^ |
| 19:08 | <rudak> | bon bin bonne soiree |
| 19:08 | <rudak> | =) |
| 19:08 | <rudak> | ++ |
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| 19:09 | <zlatan> | fr! |
| 19:09 | <gnufan> | zlatan: we've been through XEN HVM clock issues before, the only approach we haven't tried is to recompile the kernel to allow jiffies as a clock source, and run it independently of the Dom0 clock entirely. The system has been stable for a long time, so whilst we plan to upgrade I suspect the new instability will likely follow us until I figure out what is causing it. |
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| 19:11 | <zlatan> | gnufan, one way to find out :D just upgrade :D |
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| 19:16 | <gnufan> | zlatan: trust me I want to upgrade, the test system has been running Squeeze for a long time, indeed so long there is even a section of code that only works in Squeeze and we have to apply a hack when releasing so it works on lenny..... |
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| 19:53 | <scientes> | *** glibc detected *** cp: free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: 0x00000000022c7690 *** |
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| 19:54 | <scientes> | WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? |
| 19:54 | <scientes> | and how do i continue the copy in spite of it? |
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| 20:44 | <mejsa> | hey guys,how do i check temperature thru ssh? |
| 20:44 | <sney> | !lmsensors |
| 20:44 | <dpkg> | lm_sensors (Linux-monitoring sensors) is a hardware health monitoring package for CPU temperature, fan speed, etc. Packaged for Debian as lm-sensors. http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ http://www.lm-sensors.org/ #linux-sensors on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 21:15 | <antonio> | hello |
| 21:15 | <antonio> | my webcam is upside-down and i can't solve |
| 21:15 | <antonio> | can anyone help me to solve this case? |
| 21:16 | <antonio> | any italian or...someone that can help me? |
| 21:16 | <sney> | #debian-it for italian |
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| 21:17 | <antonio> | hello sney could you help me? |
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| 21:18 | <sney> | no I have to leave |
| 21:18 | <antonio> | ok thx |
| 21:18 | <antonio> | regards |
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| 21:26 | <antonio> | any help? |
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| 21:36 | <Orpheus> | i just messed up bad. i was setting things up so i could use a arduino uno so i had to add the wheezy repo for a sec for librxtx-java and then i got rid of it...or so i thought! now i got like a hundred packages were updated crap. this is a big problem no? |
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| 21:39 | <abrotman> | yeah, pretty much, .. shouldn't have done that |
| 21:39 | <Orpheus> | i know :( |
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| 21:39 | <Orpheus> | is it reinstall debian bad? |
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| 21:40 | <Orpheus> | i mean its a new install anyways |
| 21:40 | <Orpheus> | really new |
| 21:40 | <Orpheus> | just today |
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| 21:41 | <arand> | You could always look at the apt log and reinstall that squeeze versions of all of them, depending on how much script/grep fu you want to spend reinstalling might turn out easier... |
| 21:42 | <Orpheus> | yeah probably right |
| 21:42 | <Orpheus> | oh well :) |
| 21:42 | <Orpheus> | live and learn |
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| 21:48 | <Orpheus> | reinstall starts now! |
| 21:50 | <bones_was_here> | Orpheus: a lazy person way of getting stuff from testing/unstable without affecting rest of system, is after you add testing to sources.list, create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf containing |
| 21:50 | <bones_was_here> | APT { Default-Release "squeeze"; }; |
| 21:51 | <Orpheus> | bones_was_here: heheh maybe so |
| 21:53 | <abrotman> | that's the bad way |
| 21:53 | <abrotman> | !tell Orpheus about ssb |
| 21:53 | <bones_was_here> | but before installing anything from testing/unstable, you should check whether backports has the version you need ;) |
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| 22:22 | <kop> | Orpheus: You might want to type "/msg dpkg overview" in your irc client to read up on ways to add newer/other software to debian stable. |
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| 23:12 | <scientes> | any quick way to remove all ipv6 addresses from my interfaces? |
| 23:13 | <scientes> | there is this nasty distcc bug that i have to do that to work around |
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| 23:14 | <abrotman> | !tell scientes about noipv6 |
| 23:15 | <scientes> | cool, i notices that i couldn't rmmod ipv6 |
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| 23:28 | <dbiansh3ll> | hi, i have problem install fluxbox-3.2.1 bz2, |
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| 23:28 | <dbiansh3ll> | exist command for install in terminal ? |
| 23:28 | <dbiansh3ll> | si alguien habla español seria genial :D |
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| 23:34 | <deansu> | !tell dbian -about es |
| 23:35 | <deansu> | oops, nevermind, looks like you found #debian-es |
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| 23:35 | <dbian> | ok, sorry |
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| 23:40 | <Orpheus> | hey is python 2.7 unstable or something? |
| 23:40 | <scientes> | Orpheus, are you conflating "debian stable" with "stable"? |
| 23:43 | <scientes> | Orpheus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze_%28software_engineering%29 |
| 23:44 | <Orpheus> | well i just cant find 2.7 its just 2.6 and 3* |
| 23:45 | <scientes> | Orpheus, that is because you are using squeeze |
| 23:45 | <scientes> | Orpheus, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python |
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| 23:46 | <Orpheus> | why is it in unstable? has it proved so or is it just still under testing? |
| 23:47 | <Orpheus> | im just a bit curious :3 |
| 23:47 | <Orpheus> | oh and everything is back to normal |
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| 23:47 | <Orpheus> | on my laptop* |
| 23:48 | <Orpheus> | my bad there is python 2.5 too |
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