--- | Log | opened Tue Mar 27 00:00:19 2012 |
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00:15 | <samantha-r-> | why in vuze are all my torrents maxing out at 437b/sec download speed, when my throttle is set to 4000k/sec (well in excess of my bandwidth limit)? |
00:20 | <samantha-r-> | we're talking a total of < 10k/sec here, only 16 torrents |
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00:50 | <brando753> | anyone know how I can get Citrix client to run on wheezy |
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00:56 | <Infiltrator> | brando753: Is there a Linux version of it? What's the problem you're getting? |
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00:57 | <brando753> | dependency problems, it worked in ubuntu though its always required a lot of tinkering I was wondering if there was a guide |
00:57 | <Infiltrator> | samantha-r-: Could be a network or torrent issue? Is is _exactly_ 437b/sec? |
00:57 | <Infiltrator> | brando753: Which depedencies are unmet? |
00:58 | <samantha-r-> | Infiltrator, according to the reporting. however, i've moved everything to my seedbox so whatever it was, it's not a problem now. |
00:58 | <brando753> | That seems like something worth knowing |
00:58 | <brando753> | WTF |
00:58 | <brando753> | It installed this time |
00:58 | <brando753> | I dont even know |
00:59 | <Infiltrator> | Yeah, I've had so many "omg it doesn't work! ...it works now >.>" moments too. :P |
00:59 | <Infiltrator> | Having one just now, too, I think. :P |
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01:22 | <brando753> | I got citrix to work in wheezy :P |
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01:22 | <Infiltrator> | Congrats. |
01:22 | <brando753> | though I dont know why it works know |
01:22 | * | brando753 scratches his head |
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01:23 | <brando753> | Im so confused |
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01:25 | <Infiltrator> | brando753: Works is works, right? For whatever reason it decided to install the dependencies this time. |
01:26 | <brando753> | I guess. I fell like there is a lot of hidden voodoo going on |
01:26 | <brando753> | Its going to take me a while to get used to debian from ubuntu |
01:26 | * | Infiltrator hides the voodo doll behind back. |
01:26 | <brando753> | but I am glad im taking this move |
01:26 | <brando753> | lol |
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01:27 | <Infiltrator> | Well, good luck. :P |
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01:28 | <kornerr> | hi |
01:28 | <kornerr> | can I install 32-bit packages on 64-bit debian? |
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01:28 | <kornerr> | to compile 32-bit app on 64-bit Debian? |
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01:31 | <brando753> | Im just trying to get a local install of LAMP on wheezy for my development server though Im running into some problems any good guides? |
01:31 | <samantha-r-> | brando, no. depends on the problem. |
01:32 | <brando753> | I just have not found a good fuide for wheezy |
01:32 | <brando753> | the ones for squeeze dont seem to work |
01:32 | <brando753> | missing packages and all |
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02:32 | <del> | eee |
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02:32 | <del> | eeeeeeeeeeeeee antonio |
02:33 | <antonio> | eiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
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02:33 | <del> | ke aces puliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
02:33 | <antonio> | xD |
02:33 | <antonio> | diselo a tos |
02:33 | <antonio> | k se metan |
02:33 | <del> | bale |
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02:35 | <CrEaTiVe> | olas |
02:35 | <CrEaTiVe> | puli sas? |
02:35 | <CrEaTiVe> | stas? |
02:36 | <antonio> | se |
02:36 | <CrEaTiVe> | ? |
02:36 | <CrEaTiVe> | ajjaja |
02:36 | <CrEaTiVe> | soy dani x |
02:36 | <CrEaTiVe> | xd |
02:36 | <antonio> | quier eres? jajaj |
02:36 | <antonio> | ah ok |
02:36 | <del> | quien es CrEaTive |
02:37 | <CrEaTiVe> | y emilio? |
02:37 | <CrEaTiVe> | dani |
02:37 | <del> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
02:37 | <CrEaTiVe> | marikones |
02:37 | <antonio> | del? |
02:37 | <CrEaTiVe> | xd |
02:37 | <antonio> | quien es xD |
02:37 | <CrEaTiVe> | del kien es |
02:37 | <kop> | !es-social |
02:37 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
02:37 | <del> | del soy yo luis |
02:37 | <CrEaTiVe> | xD |
02:37 | <antonio> | ah ok |
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02:38 | <del> | y ernestokien es |
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02:38 | <del> | y fabrianchi |
02:39 | <CrEaTiVe> | gente de x ai coño |
02:39 | <antonio> | jajajajaj |
02:39 | <CrEaTiVe> | xD |
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02:40 | <del> | ke dice |
02:40 | <antonio> | nenes |
02:40 | <antonio> | darle a: |
02:40 | <antonio> | servidor |
02:40 | <antonio> | join a channel |
02:40 | <antonio> | y poneis jaen |
02:40 | <antonio> | al lado del # |
02:41 | <CrEaTiVe> | ok |
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03:43 | <Palomares> | eeeeeeeeeee |
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03:51 | <MEsSi> | jijijij |
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04:32 | <intore> | hi, could you explain me how to set write/read/exe permissions to a process? |
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04:34 | <intore> | i mean, i want that a process can enter in a directory and in some files |
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04:34 | <intore> | to write, to execute, to read |
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04:43 | <afuentes> | I want to use the postcat program from postfix package, but i dont want to install postfix package... and replace my current exim4. Is there a way to use a package without installing it? |
04:43 | <afuentes> | is it weird what im asking for? |
04:44 | <afuentes> | i did apt-get download postfix and then dpkg -x postfix.deb but the dependencies are missing to execute postcat |
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04:44 | <petemc> | afuentes: why not use exim utilities? |
04:45 | <afuentes> | anyway to automate this unpackage it? |
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04:45 | <petemc> | exiqgrep |
04:45 | <petemc> | exiwhat |
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04:45 | <petemc> | i mean exipick, not exiwhat |
04:45 | <petemc> | exim -Mrb will show message body |
04:45 | <petemc> | Mvb, even |
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04:46 | * | petemc needs tea |
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04:47 | <afuentes> | oh, i didnt know about exim execs ^^ |
04:47 | <afuentes> | gonna check them out |
04:48 | <petemc> | man exim, also exi<tab><tab> |
04:49 | <Myon> | afuentes: for the other question, you need to manually install the deps |
04:49 | <afuentes> | Myon, oh :( meh, too much work... |
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04:49 | <afuentes> | ill do it on the server where i have installed postcat |
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04:50 | <afuentes> | im hunting down the source of some spam within the messages on the queues in zimbra |
04:50 | <afuentes> | and using postcat to view the headers of the mails |
04:50 | <petemc> | exim -Mvh |
04:50 | <petemc> | if they're in the queue |
04:51 | <petemc> | i cant imagine postcat would understand exims queue format |
04:51 | <afuentes> | in the server i have installed postfix :) i just downloaded the bulk to my comp to read them here |
04:51 | <afuentes> | but ill just do it on the server |
04:51 | <afuentes> | xD |
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04:52 | <afuentes> | thanks |
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05:09 | <benjr> | i would like to build a home file server and am wondering how powerful a cpu will i need? im not very adept at linux commandline so id need to run a simple DE like xfce |
05:10 | <benjr> | could i get by with an itx board with integrated atom cpu? |
05:12 | <bones_was_here> | samba can use a chunk of cpu if you have a bunch of windows clients |
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05:12 | <bones_was_here> | nfs doesnt use much at just 1gbps |
05:12 | <benjr> | ah all my other workstations are debian, i was hoping to use nfs |
05:13 | <bones_was_here> | the speed of the NIC and its bus and the disk io would probably be your main speed limits |
05:14 | <benjr> | most of the time it would be streaming files to my media pc, 6-8gb mkv's |
05:15 | <benjr> | im not sure how last a transfer rate you need for that, perhaps even 100mb could do that |
05:15 | <bones_was_here> | yeah even 1080p plays fine over a solid 100 |
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05:17 | <benjr> | my drives are WD greens, so theyre not that fast, do you think those with an atom CPU and any integrated gig NIC would do? |
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05:17 | <bones_was_here> | well they will still benefit from 1000mbps significantly |
05:17 | <bones_was_here> | 100 is only 12.5mb/s max |
05:17 | <bones_was_here> | for anything where you have to wait for a transfer |
05:18 | <bones_was_here> | even just two of those drives in raid 0 will easily saturate a 1000mbps in sequential read |
05:18 | <benjr> | id need a GUI on it too since im not confident in my commandline abilities |
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05:20 | <bones_was_here> | well you can use a gui, but for some aspects of the setup a terminal command will be unavoidable or most practical |
05:20 | <jm_> | I forgot how fast netperf goes on my atom board, it can do 40-50MB/s with disk included |
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05:21 | <benjr> | i dont expect many large file transfers, i plan to download to it's directories via nfs and my intrnet speed won't even get to 5mb/s |
05:21 | <bones_was_here> | a basic nfs setup which assumes the network is private and trusts hosts not to ip spoof is quite easy |
05:21 | <bones_was_here> | you need to edit one file and restart a service :p |
05:23 | <bones_was_here> | but to use it over the internet without a vpn requires a kerberos setup, which will take some time to learn and involves a whole bunch of cli |
05:23 | <benjr> | i had a file server with nfs setup using my old desktop not long ago, but it was only a temporary solution it was a core2duo, since im buying new this time im not getting anything that powerful |
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05:24 | <benjr> | yea from memory i used edited 1 config file on on the file server, and then my fstab on the workstation, was surprising simple |
05:24 | <benjr> | i just edited* |
05:25 | <benjr> | so even the atom will handle a gui like xfce? |
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05:25 | <bones_was_here> | yes |
05:26 | <benjr> | none of the itx boards i see how many stat ports, so im thinking ill have to grab a pcie card with more satas, how will linux handel that? |
05:26 | <bones_was_here> | if theres opengl2 support, kde 4 or gnome 3 should work decently, but xfce is faster |
05:26 | <benjr> | have many* |
05:26 | <chitchat> | Can somebody please help me fix my repository list? It seems like some repositories have moved or have been removed. Not sure what to do |
05:27 | <bones_was_here> | most decent sata/raid controllers will be supported by the stock kernel |
05:27 | <bones_was_here> | if you google the model and linux its usually easy to find out |
05:28 | <capriott> | chitchat, http://lists.debian.org/debian-backports-announce/2012/03/msg00006.html |
05:28 | <capriott> | http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2012/msg00007.html |
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05:28 | <benjr> | bones_was_here, ah so its not transparently handled at the bios level, linux actually needs to support that card? |
05:29 | <bones_was_here> | yes, also you should not use bios emulation for sata hardware, it makes performance much worse and sometimes the emulation has bugs |
05:29 | <jm_> | for BIOS RAID you'd need to use dmraid, but it's better to use software raid then |
05:29 | <Aurelien> | Hello, can you provide me a way to reach packagings gurus ? (mailings lists, irc, newsgroups ?) |
05:29 | <bones_was_here> | its best to put all the controllers in their native sata or AHCI mode |
05:30 | <capriott> | BTW archive.debian.org looks down at this time. |
05:31 | <benjr> | jm_, i wish i was raiding, i cant afford enough drives for any redundancy. |
05:31 | <DragonDon> | which log file can I check if vnc doesn't connect? Could use more details than "connection to host was closed" |
05:31 | <DragonDon> | Messages doens't say anything. IS there a log file for this type? |
05:32 | <EmleyMoor> | I get this appearing in my .xsession-errors, generated by both iceweasel and icedove: Bonobo-WARNING **: Bonobo must be initialized before use - how do I deal with it? |
05:33 | <bones_was_here> | benjr: if you can afford 3 you can get started with redundant raid :) linux allows you to online upgrade your raid with more disks, though it requires some cli-fu, takes some hours and has a few limitations |
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05:33 | <bones_was_here> | two in raid 1 provides redundancy, but can't be upgraded |
05:34 | * | EmleyMoor has four disks operating in raid6 - and has already had his bacon saved by it |
05:35 | <benjr> | i though a decent raid was a minimum 5 drives |
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05:35 | * | benjr has never had a raid |
05:35 | <jm_> | well 2 for raid 1 ... |
05:35 | <EmleyMoor> | benjr: You don't need five drives. raid5 will work with 3, raid6 with 4... raid10 (Linux only) with 3... |
05:35 | <bones_was_here> | 3 is the minimum for raid5, which tolerates 1 disk failure and has capacity of (n-1)*capacity |
05:36 | <bones_was_here> | a linux raid5 can be upgraded with more disks, or even to bigger disks with some effort, can also be upgraded to raid6 (tolerates 2 failures) |
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05:37 | <benjr> | ive got 2 full drives already (ext4), if i bought a 3rd could i make them a part of a raid without having to move the data off first? |
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05:37 | <EmleyMoor> | benjr: Not easily, if at all... |
05:37 | <bones_was_here> | you can usually raid1 them for redudancy, but a parity raid (5,6) is a full format |
05:38 | <benjr> | i dont have anywhere to store all the data if i needed to back move it off, so id have to buy 3 new drives |
05:39 | * | EmleyMoor used to use a single disk, plain partitioning, but planned raid and lvm as part of a major upgrade. |
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05:39 | <bones_was_here> | it is possible to create a degraded raid5 with 2 disks, then copy data from a third onto the first two, then add the third to the array... but that's a fiddly and somewhat risky process if it's your only copy of the data |
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05:39 | <benjr_> | perhaps i should make sure the pcie card has raid support, so atleast the option is open to me later |
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05:40 | <bones_was_here> | linux raid doesn't need raid support on the controller |
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05:40 | <bones_was_here> | it works with any controller it supports |
05:40 | <bones_was_here> | which allows you to have a raid that includes disks on several different controllers, including the onboard |
05:41 | <bones_was_here> | hardware raid is isolated to the controller |
05:41 | <bones_was_here> | and usually can't be moved to a different model of controller |
05:41 | <benjr_> | ah so if i use linux software based raid i could have some bards onboard and some off the pcie card, plus move them to complete different box if i upgrade later? |
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05:41 | <bones_was_here> | yes |
05:42 | <benjr_> | some drives* |
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05:42 | <benjr_> | for some reason i always thought hardware raid was better then software, this seems to prove otherwise |
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05:43 | <bones_was_here> | software raid uses the cpu, it used to suck because a) cpu's were slow and b) there weren't any good software raid implementations |
05:43 | <bones_was_here> | but now, even low end or laptop cpu's are more powerful than the ones on affordable raid controllers, and linux has awesome raid capability :) |
05:43 | <EmleyMoor> | Real hardware RAID isn't bad, but "fake RAID" as on motherboards is terrible. |
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05:44 | <Maulkin> | And you'd better get some spare raid controllers of exactly the same type in case they go pop. |
05:44 | <benjr_> | bones_was_here, so again even those integrated atoms will cope with ti fine? |
05:44 | <bones_was_here> | some real hardware raid is quite terrible, to the point that disabling the controller's raid and using linux to raid the individual disks yields double or better performance |
05:44 | <Maulkin> | And a spare motherboard/cpu/memory in case those go pop and you can't put the controller in another board anymnore. |
05:45 | <EmleyMoor> | Linux RAID is great for compatibility |
05:45 | <benjr_> | Maulkin, some raid cards require specifc mobo/cpu, not just anything with pcie? |
05:45 | <bones_was_here> | benjr: if it's dual core, yes it will cope well enough to max out a 1000mbps cable if the disks are keeping up :) |
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05:45 | <Maulkin> | benjr_: the issue is (for example) what happens when you can't get pci-e anymore :) |
05:46 | <Maulkin> | Similar to when pci-64 went away. |
05:46 | <bones_was_here> | yeah regular pci (and especially pci-x) are hard to find now |
05:46 | <benjr_> | ah i see, i got some apg video cards in the garage lol |
05:46 | <Maulkin> | But with software raid, you can at least get your data off again. |
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05:47 | <bones_was_here> | at least until sata is obsoleted :p |
05:47 | <benjr_> | bones_was_here, you said i can mix drive make/model/sizes with software too? |
05:47 | <bones_was_here> | benjr_: yes, but the array size is limited by the smallest disk |
05:47 | <EmleyMoor> | benjr_: If you are really clever, you can allocate space to differend RAID types on the same disks |
05:47 | <bones_was_here> | if you raid5 three 500gb and later add a 1tb, half of the 1tb won't be in the array (though you could format it as a separate volume) |
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05:48 | <bones_was_here> | EmleyMoor: as long as he doesn't do something performance killing like put two volumes of a raid on one disk :p |
05:48 | <benjr_> | ive got 2* 3tb and a 1.5tb atm, once i can afford more 3tb's i guess ill retire that 1.5tb then |
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05:49 | <EmleyMoor> | I have a small RAID1 for /boot, a large RAID6 for most stuff, LVM'd, and a linear made from a RAID0 and a larger single partition used as a scratch area (need the space, don't need the safety) |
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05:49 | <bones_was_here> | benjr_: use it to back up your most important stuff, raid only protects against a disk failure! |
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05:50 | <bones_was_here> | ideally in a different pc |
05:50 | <benjr_> | bones_was_here, what other kind of failure could cause me to loose data if not a hardware failure? |
05:50 | <EmleyMoor> | You still need backups - I have three 1TB external drives. |
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05:50 | <EmleyMoor> | benjr_: A user error, or a software bug... |
05:51 | <benjr_> | isnt the raid itself like a backup? |
05:51 | <themill> | (I've had that many external drives fail in the last year) |
05:51 | <bones_was_here> | benjr_: many accidental commands, the most obvious is rm -rf / which will also wipe out any backup volume you happen to have mounted... |
05:51 | <benjr_> | oh |
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05:51 | <EmleyMoor> | I use a different disk for backup each week, and keep one in another house a few miles away |
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05:52 | <benjr_> | are you talking about your home setup some a business? |
05:52 | <bones_was_here> | or you could have a failure in the raid, for example if two of the sata cables are bad and die at the same tim in a raid5, you might have to bugger around for some time to get the raid to work again (technically, losing two disks is a failure and all data is lost) |
05:52 | <benjr_> | or a* |
05:52 | <EmleyMoor> | benjr_: This is a large home setup - 4 systems, 2 with RAIDs |
05:53 | <benjr_> | ive never done backups, always taken the risk, i thought if i raided that would be the end of it |
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05:54 | <bones_was_here> | i would suggest multiplying the number of hours it would take you to recover your data by the amount you could get paid by working those hours, and see if it's more than enough disk for one backup copy in a different machine costs ;) |
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05:55 | <EmleyMoor> | flexbackup is a good backup system |
05:55 | <bones_was_here> | if its all just tv shows, quite possibly not worth backing up |
05:56 | <benjr_> | its mostly tvshows/movies/music, it takes me about 2-3months to full a 3tb drive (speeds arent great here), but an extra 3tb drive is certainly a lot less then 2-3months wages |
05:56 | <bones_was_here> | if your phd thesis is on there, i'd be putting a copy in the car, giving one to my friend, etc :P |
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05:57 | <bones_was_here> | well if its just torrenting i imagine it wouldnt take 2-3 months of actual work, just waiting :p |
05:58 | <benjr_> | my personal irreplaceable data would be about 500gb i guess, i guess i should backup that |
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06:01 | <benjr_> | bones_was_here, so ive ascertained that atom cpu is fine, any intergrated gig NIC will keep up with 1080p streaming, google my sata card for compatibility, what about ram? should i have as much ram as it woudl take to hold the whole file i might be streaming? |
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06:01 | <valdyn> | benjr_: youre very lucky, i break 1/10 disks per 1-2 years |
06:02 | <EmleyMoor> | I've lost more disks than anything else, but only one on this system since built... hence one of them being a different size. |
06:02 | <bones_was_here> | benjr_: you don't need that much ram, but linux will cache files quite aggressively if there's lots of ram free, so if you want to access certain files repeatedly some might help |
06:02 | <benjr_> | valdyn, only drives ive evre had break on me were a couple of seagate 500gb, ive heard a lot of other had issues with them too, maybe was a bad batch |
06:03 | <valdyn> | benjr_: they all break sooner or later |
06:03 | <EmleyMoor> | Optical drives have been the other big cause of problems for me... but, as I say, moving parts are less reliable. |
06:03 | <bones_was_here> | i pretty much consider hard disks to be a consumable part, they mechanically wear and there's no telling which batch is bad and will fail years too early (but still out of warranty) |
06:03 | <benjr_> | valdyn, i guess ive already upgraded before theyve gotten old |
06:03 | <valdyn> | benjr_: probably |
06:04 | <bones_was_here> | before the factory flooding pooned the pricing, regular sata disks were cheap enough to be consumables too |
06:04 | <EmleyMoor> | I've got old disks still around, but some newer ones have had to be scrapped |
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06:05 | <bones_was_here> | yeah i still have a celeron 1000mhz laptop from about 2001 running, its disk is doing fine 24/7 :p |
06:05 | <benjr_> | i put some old pc parts in a time capsule when i was younger, including a 60mb hdd, i wonder if it would still work consider its be unused |
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06:06 | <bones_was_here> | my pentium 1 still worked last i heard (2009ish) |
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06:08 | <benjr_> | i could be wrong but i get the impression that over the years pc's in general have become more commodity, cheaper parts, lowered manufacturing costs, and result in shorter life expectancy, hence older stuff lasts longer |
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06:09 | <valdyn> | i wouldnt know how to tell |
06:09 | <valdyn> | stuff is usually replaced before its > 10 years |
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06:15 | <bones_was_here> | but it often fails before its replaced :( |
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06:25 | <ayaka> | about tcpwrapper, The most important problem is that the service is used only for certain kinds of services. does it mean tcp wrapper only support service which use its lib |
06:26 | <chitchat> | capriott: Thanks for the pointer. It says that I should update from lenny to squeeze. Is there a way to do that without reinstalling? |
06:26 | <valdyn> | dpkg: lenny->squeeze |
06:26 | <dpkg> | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <release notes>. |
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06:29 | <jm_> | ayaka: yes, but some other tools also use it - inetd etc. |
06:30 | <chitchat> | valdyn: "changing lenny to squeeze" - does that mean s/lenny/squeeze/g through source.list? |
06:31 | <valdyn> | chitchat: yes |
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06:34 | <chitchat> | valdyn: I also have eeepc.debian.net in there. I expect that's the eeepc-specific hotkey and acpi stuff. Any ideas? |
06:35 | <valdyn> | chitcha NXDOMAIN |
06:35 | <valdyn> | chitchat: NXDOMAIN |
06:36 | <benjr_> | bit off topic, can i plug a pcie 1x/4x into a 16x slot? |
06:36 | <heikkila> | chitchat, squeeze has better support for eeepc |
06:37 | <chitchat> | heikkila and valdyn: Thanks, I just commented it out |
06:37 | <ayaka> | jm_ i now , so if service support xinetd, tcp wrapper can support which |
06:37 | <deansu> | benjr_: you should be able to, yes |
06:38 | <ayaka> | s/now/see |
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06:40 | <SynrG> | chitchat: remove. it's obsolete (see channel topic, #debian-eeepc) |
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06:41 | <SynrG> | chitchat: it hasn't been relevant since lenny, which is now EOL |
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06:41 | <SynrG> | oh, i see they've counseled you to upgrade |
06:41 | <fred_> | hello everyone |
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06:42 | <fred_> | i need help concerning empythy and squeeze |
06:42 | <fred_> | empathy |
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06:42 | <CrEaTiVe> | puli? |
06:43 | <fred_> | so, i dont know what to put into server field |
06:43 | <fred_> | puli? |
06:43 | <fred_> | whats that? |
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06:45 | <chitchat> | SynrG: Thanks. Just trying to wrap my head around the changes and upgrade to squeeze |
06:46 | <SynrG> | chitchat: which model of eeepc, incidentally? |
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06:47 | <heikkila> | fred__, I guess it depends on what kind of account you are editing, msn or jabber for instance... |
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06:49 | <heikkila> | I mean: fred_ , but he quit |
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06:53 | <chitchat> | SynrG: I have a 901. Old, I know, but I love it |
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07:07 | <dvector> | Привет всем |
07:07 | <movl> | !ru |
07:07 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
07:08 | <dvector> | Sorry |
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07:19 | <SynrG> | chitchat: you'll want to read about the changes on the wiki then |
07:19 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you |
07:19 | <chitchat> | SynrG: Thank you |
07:20 | <SynrG> | chitchat: sec, let me get you the exact URL ... |
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07:20 | <ayaka> | i can't understnad the relationship between inetd and tcp wrapper |
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07:23 | <SynrG> | chitchat: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Upgrade paying particular attention to 2.6.32 |
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07:23 | <haotian> | woot ! Debian is smart, I was going to install grub to mbr, however debian didn't even bother me with that, as it did ask me actually "Do you want grub to be installed on MBR ?" and I just said yes with a pleasure (: |
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07:25 | <SynrG> | chitchat: it may be that some of the issues listed there are patched in later revisions of 2.6.32. i don't know. the page has not been maintained very well since squeeze installs started being mostly trouble-free |
07:25 | <jm_> | ayaka: no worries |
07:25 | <meyote> | Whee, just changed to Debian from Windows 7. Seems nice :) |
07:25 | <meyote> | Still a bit confused about the differences between those two |
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07:25 | <meyote> | But seems nice :) |
07:26 | <lconde> | Hello |
07:26 | <SynrG> | meyote: nice. any problem in particular you would like to address? |
07:26 | <lconde> | I have a question |
07:26 | <meyote> | nvidia drivers, should I install from repositories or download from nvidia |
07:26 | <SynrG> | meyote: is this your introduction to linux, or just debian in particular? |
07:26 | <meyote> | Just to Debian |
07:26 | <DragonDon> | gvncviewer Can't connect to a win7starter (firewall turned off) http://paste.debian.net/hidden/55dce021/ |
07:27 | <jm_> | meyote: debian packages, there;s a newer version in backports |
07:27 | <meyote> | thanks |
07:27 | <DragonDon> | kinda lost for troubelshooting.... |
07:28 | <SynrG> | DragonDon: what is a win7starter? |
07:28 | <movl> | edition, I guess |
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07:29 | <DragonDon> | windows 7 starter, has the VNC server running on it. |
07:29 | <SynrG> | DragonDon: so i take it you're using vnc4 as the server? |
07:29 | <DragonDon> | want to see where the hold up is, debian or windows |
07:29 | <SynrG> | did you check the vnc server logs on the windows box? |
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07:30 | <SynrG> | the log you pasted is very uninformative about the problem :/ |
07:30 | <lconde> | Is something happen with oficial debian repositories? |
07:30 | <DragonDon> | the paste is the debug output from gvncviewer |
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07:30 | <SynrG> | lconde: http.us.debian.org? |
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07:31 | <SynrG> | lconde: some issue was reported yesterday. try a different mirror. |
07:31 | <lconde> | ok thank you |
07:31 | <haotian> | Runned debian for first time and my screen isn't centered, it's position is a little rightwards, how can I fix it ? |
07:31 | <lconde> | i have a test |
07:31 | <SynrG> | lconde: http.us.debian.org is on round-robin DNS. it appears one of the mirrors is bad but has not been taken out of rotation |
07:31 | <SynrG> | lconde: so find a good mirror and use that specific mirror instead of the round-robin one |
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07:32 | <SynrG> | haotian: that's your monitor's fault. find its menu button and auto-adjust |
07:33 | <SynrG> | haotian: debian likely uses slightly different video modes than your usual OS |
07:33 | <haotian> | alright |
07:33 | <haotian> | though monitor was working okay with windows |
07:33 | <lconde> | this is my sources.list |
07:33 | <lconde> | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
07:33 | <lconde> | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main non-free contrib |
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07:34 | <SynrG> | haotian: the monitor remembers different settings per video mode, which is why you see different results between OSes using different modes |
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07:35 | <SynrG> | on very ancient monitors there is only one set of settings and sadly you need to manually adjust each time you switch (but i mean *really* ancient) |
07:35 | <DragonDon> | windows logs only shows 'unable to connect session(5)" |
07:35 | <DragonDon> | someone posted that 'realVNC' doens't work on 7....gonna try tightVNC |
07:35 | <SynrG> | aha |
07:35 | <SynrG> | lconde: ah. this is for a different reason. see channel topic |
07:36 | <SynrG> | lconde: lenny has reached end of life. do as the topic suggests and msg the bot for instructions for upgrading |
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07:38 | <lconde> | thank you, but, what repository can i use? |
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07:38 | <SynrG> | lconde: did you do as I told you? |
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07:39 | <SynrG> | lconde: lenny is no longer being updated. there is no repository you can use. you need to upgrade to squeeze. /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
07:39 | <themill> | (well, "/msg dpkg lenny sources.list", but yes, you should upgrade) |
07:39 | <lconde> | and with archive? is possible? |
07:40 | <SynrG> | no. the archive is not updated. |
07:40 | <SynrG> | it is pointless to point at the archive |
07:40 | <SynrG> | (no pun intended) |
07:41 | <themill> | SynrG: if you to (for some reason) continue to run lenny and wanted to install a package you didn't currently have installed then you can point apt at archive.d.o; it's just that you should be upgrading instead. |
07:41 | <DragonDon> | well, that didn't change anything....I'm willing to bet M$ broke something in W7Starter on purpose again.... |
07:41 | <SynrG> | true. but that puts you at risk |
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07:41 | <SynrG> | and it pretty much wrecks your chance of getting support here |
07:41 | <SynrG> | as we'll just urge you to upgrade when you run into problems |
07:41 | <themill> | SynrG: depends on what it is you're doing... I deboostrapped woody of archive.d.o a couple of months ago so that I could get an older gcc to compile something :S |
07:42 | <haotian> | I se the ipv4 network configuration manually however it didn't connect over eth0 , what might be the reason, the domain resolving editbox was empty |
07:42 | <haotian> | I set the ip, netmask, global dns (google public dns) |
07:42 | <lconde> | ok ok yes i know i have to upgrade but i want to install a package in a lenny machine... so can i do with archive as you write? |
07:42 | <SynrG> | themill: an exercise in forensics, or what? |
07:42 | <SynrG> | lconde: yes, as themill indicated. but i would caution that it puts you in a bad situation for support. |
07:43 | <SynrG> | DragonDon: consider using rdp instead. |
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07:44 | <lconde> | ok ok SynrG i know i am upgrading.... i'm going to make some proof... so thank u very much!!! |
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07:45 | <SynrG> | lconde: good. good luck. and we're here to help if you get stuck |
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07:46 | <lconde> | thank you king |
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07:46 | <SynrG> | haotian: what is this "domain resolving editbox"? i'm not sure what tool you're using to set up your network |
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07:48 | <haotian> | The editbox says : "Search Domains" |
07:48 | <ayaka> | ok next question, can i config cups web authing based on passwd |
07:48 | <haotian> | hint : Domain used when resolving host names. |
07:49 | <OdyX> | ayaka: only normal users within the lpadmin group can have access. So yes, you can, somehow. |
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07:52 | <meyote> | after installing the new drivers I can't setup multiple monitors anymore :o |
07:52 | <SynrG> | haotian: i still don't know what you're doing. sorry, i've never used a GUI to configure debian networking. i need more details. do you use gnome? what command do you type or menu entry do you select to get there? |
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07:53 | <SynrG> | "search domains" is not important except for resolving unqualified hostnames. if you suspect a DNS problem it is likely your /etc/resolv.conf does not point at a valid nameserver (or at any nameserver at all) |
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07:54 | <SynrG> | meyote: please indicate the output of 'xrandr'. use paste.debian.net to paste the results and report the URL used here |
07:55 | <haotian> | SynrG :: gnome, right click on network icon on system tray select edit connections |
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07:56 | <haotian> | choose wired tab select edit eth0 |
07:56 | <haotian> | go to ipv4 setting and change method from dhcp to manual |
07:56 | <haotian> | fix the ip to some static ip |
07:56 | <ayaka> | OdyX no, i means web visit it don't paased just ip |
07:56 | <meyote> | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/161114/ |
07:56 | <haotian> | put the google dns put the /24 hostmask put the gateway |
07:56 | <haotian> | and didnt work |
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07:57 | <meyote> | And seems like the nvidia-glx package had an older kernel as depency. GDM won't start with my old kernel |
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07:57 | <SynrG> | haotian: thanks. that's a sufficient level of detail. after doing that, is there an /etc/resolv.conf with the nameserver in it? |
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07:59 | <SynrG> | meyote: that's with both monitors attached, right? |
07:59 | <haotian> | how to run terminal with hotkeys (besides the ctrl alt f1 f2 f3, they are too guru-ish) |
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07:59 | <meyote> | SynrG, yeah, 22" PB and 28" Samsung |
07:59 | <SynrG> | it should be showing both :p |
07:59 | <meyote> | Worked fine before installing the nvidia drivers |
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07:59 | <SynrG> | using nvidia drivers from backports? |
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08:00 | <SynrG> | it was suggested earlier you use backports (and presumably a more recent kernel from backports, too) |
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08:00 | <meyote> | hmm, and thats why it went wrong :| |
08:00 | <jm_> | are you sure it's actually using nvidia driver? |
08:00 | <SynrG> | that, too. what's in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
08:02 | <haotian> | and please highlight me when you are talking to me (: |
08:02 | <haotian> | There is no resolv.conf under /etc |
08:02 | <haotian> | how to run terminal with hotkeys (besides the ctrl alt f1 f2 f3, they are too guru-ish) |
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08:03 | <meyote> | I didn't install the drivers from backports. I just reinstalled and thought I still had them in my repo list |
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08:05 | <SynrG> | haotian: Accessories -> Terminal or something like that |
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08:05 | <SynrG> | haotian: as for a hotkey to start it in gnome, i don't know if there's some default key binding. you could always make one to invoke gnome-terminal |
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08:06 | <SynrG> | meyote: backports are never installed unless you request them, even when listed in your repos |
08:06 | <SynrG> | meyote: as per documentation at backports.debian.org |
08:07 | <haotian> | bash uses tab completion right ? I did resolv [tab], so there is no resolv.conf |
08:08 | <ayaka> | OdyX thank you |
08:08 | <SynrG> | haotian: i would say it's network-manager's responsibility to create /etc/resolv.conf with whatever nameserver you specified in your configuration. why it fails to do this, i don't know. |
08:08 | <SynrG> | as i said, i do not use a gui to configure my networks :/ |
08:08 | <SynrG> | someone else more familiar with network-manager here may be able to help |
08:08 | <meyote> | SynrG, but backports shows up in synaptic |
08:08 | <haotian> | thx mmm might be white space issue |
08:08 | <meyote> | afaik |
08:08 | <haotian> | I did this way : |
08:08 | <haotian> | 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 |
08:08 | <haotian> | there is one white space |
08:09 | <SynrG> | meyote: yes ... did you not read what i said? you need to specifically request it when you install the package as documented at backports.debian.org. see http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
08:10 | <haotian> | SynrG :: yes ! works |
08:11 | <haotian> | I had a very little experience with fedora (had also gnome), been 1 year I had no use of linux |
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08:11 | <haotian> | Just installed debian and so happy (: |
08:12 | <mjk> | haotian: Yaaaayy! :-) |
08:12 | <SynrG> | congrats :) |
08:12 | <haotian> | how can I update grub |
08:12 | <haotian> | and how can I download os-probe |
08:12 | <haotian> | ty |
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08:12 | <haotian> | in fedora it was yum <package name> |
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08:13 | <SynrG> | haotian: in a default debian install, i think os-prober is installed. but if for some reason you don't have it: |
08:13 | <SynrG> | apt-get install os-prober |
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08:14 | <SynrG> | to see if you have it: dpkg -l os-prober (first two columns should be 'ii') |
08:14 | <jm_> | !tell haotian -about grounding |
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08:14 | <mjk> | SynrG: Shouldn't he use "aptitude" instead of "apt-get"? |
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08:15 | <mjk> | I think aptitude was preferred over apt-get, already years ago ... |
08:15 | <SynrG> | there is no 'should' here, but yes, 'aptitude install os-prober' is fine |
08:15 | <mjk> | Ah ... |
08:15 | <SynrG> | preferred by some. |
08:15 | <mjk> | Thought "aptitude" had better dependency resolution or something ... |
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08:15 | <SynrG> | there is a myth circulating that they are not interchangable. that is false. |
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08:15 | <SynrG> | considered 'better' by some, yes :) |
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08:16 | <SynrG> | if by 'better' you mean 'too clever by half' ;) |
08:16 | <mjk> | SynrG: With one exception (if you will): Both have their own "put on hold" mechanism .... |
08:16 | <SynrG> | that is a part of the myth |
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08:17 | <mjk> | SynrG: What?!!! |
08:17 | <king> | hloo |
08:17 | <mjk> | Errr .... I .... uhm .... |
08:17 | <mjk> | SynrG: You got to be kidding. |
08:17 | <king> | hello |
08:17 | <Evil101> | hey guyz |
08:17 | <mjk> | hi king |
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08:17 | <SynrG> | mjk: provide documentation to prove me wrong? :) |
08:17 | <king> | where u from |
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08:18 | <mjk> | SynrG: 'echo "blah hold" | dpkg --set-selections' does NOT appear in "aptitude show blah" and 'aptitude hold blah' does NOT appear in dpkg --get-selections |
08:18 | <mjk> | king: We're from the Internet. :-) |
08:18 | <king> | ? |
08:18 | <haotian> | jm_ :: thanks |
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08:19 | <SynrG> | mjk: ah. happy to have been proven wrong. but aptitude will honor --set-selections. is the reverse not true? |
08:19 | <jm_> | haotian: no worries |
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08:20 | <SynrG> | mjk: just because there are two mechanisms doesn't mean they are not interoperable. |
08:20 | <mjk> | SynrG: I /think/ dpkg doesn't honor aptitude's hold-status, but can't remember if vice-versa works ... |
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08:20 | <SynrG> | see, that's the problem. there used to be problems. afaik, they have long ago been resolved. |
08:20 | <king> | kool |
08:20 | <mjk> | SynrG: Yes, but I tried it out a while ago, and they seemed to be half-way independent -- except that aptitude might honor dpkg selections ... |
08:21 | <haotian> | I have os-prober but why grub didn't setup boot list properly |
08:21 | <SynrG> | Evil101, king: this channel is about debian support. if you're not here for that reason, may i suggest #moocows instead? |
08:21 | <haotian> | I can't boot into winblows |
08:21 | <mjk> | SynrG: lol |
08:22 | <SynrG> | !hold |
08:22 | <dpkg> | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771. |
08:22 | <SynrG> | well, either this factoid is obsolete or my understanding is broken. |
08:22 | * | SynrG checks the cited bug |
08:23 | <SynrG> | haotian: beats me. i have no dual-boot systems |
08:23 | <SynrG> | haotian: try 'update-grub' to see if it fixes it up? |
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08:25 | <SynrG> | mjk: given this bug is not closed, i revise my sweeping statement. 'aptitude and apt-get are interoperable so long as you don't use brokenly-implemented aptitude-specific features like "aptitude hold"' (citation, #137771) ;) |
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08:25 | <SynrG> | mjk: please note that dpkg --set-selections is not a feature of apt, but of dpkg |
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08:27 | <haotian> | rrrr |
08:27 | <haotian> | I did full-update and it wanted me to sudo |
08:27 | <haotian> | then it said I'm not in the sudoers file |
08:27 | <haotian> | now how can I add myself to sudoers file ? |
08:27 | <SynrG> | you can fix that. su to become root ... |
08:28 | <movl> | type visudo... |
08:28 | <haotian> | if I install grub with root, maybe ownership issues etc ? |
08:28 | <SynrG> | add a line like: |
08:28 | <SynrG> | haotian ALL=(ALL) ALL |
08:28 | <SynrG> | (or whatever your username is) |
08:29 | <movl> | esc + :wq... |
08:29 | <movl> | and that's that |
08:29 | <SynrG> | well, visudo honors EDITOR and that's sane, isn't it? |
08:29 | <SynrG> | (i mean, wouldn't it use nano by default?) |
08:29 | <haotian> | where do I add that lineh SynrG |
08:29 | * | haotian hates traveling between laptop and pc |
08:29 | <SynrG> | haotian: 09:28 < movl> type visudo... |
08:29 | <haotian> | okay |
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08:30 | <movl> | beneath the line that says "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" |
08:30 | <haotian> | visudo command not found |
08:30 | <SynrG> | haotian: you need to be root first |
08:30 | <SynrG> | use 'su' |
08:30 | <SynrG> | enter the root password |
08:30 | <king> | 567665 |
08:30 | <ayaka> | if there is no X and fb don't support my graphic card, how linux show chars |
08:31 | <king> | for me it does |
08:31 | <jm_> | ayaka: you can use FB with regular dumb vga too |
08:31 | <haotian> | #User privelege specification |
08:31 | <haotian> | root ALL ALL ALl |
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08:32 | <haotian> | I add there haotian ALL=(ALL) ALL |
08:32 | <haotian> | right ? |
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08:32 | <king> | got a 34x grafic card |
08:32 | <SynrG> | yeah (assuming 'haotian' is your username) |
08:32 | <haotian> | then I can sudo ? woot ! |
08:32 | <SynrG> | on a new line after that line, that is |
08:32 | <king> | really |
08:33 | <haotian> | assuming I have already downloaded new grub package, (since I did full-upgrade), now shall I do aptitude install grub ? |
08:33 | <king> | yes |
08:33 | <SynrG> | king: would you kindly stop being random? |
08:33 | <movl> | lol |
08:33 | <king> | ok |
08:34 | <king> | sorry |
08:34 | <haotian> | now I dont know how to save the nano file, I did ctrl+s it said, "ignored: mumble,mumble" |
08:34 | <ayaka> | jm_ so kernel support vga protocal? |
08:34 | <jm_> | ayaka: yes, and vesa and so on |
08:34 | <movl> | haotian: cut the mumble and tell us the exact error message |
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08:34 | <SynrG> | haotian: i'm not sure what you're getting at. 'downloaded' vs 'install'? you mean you're at a prompt asking you to install? |
08:35 | <haotian> | XOFF ignored |
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08:36 | <SynrG> | haotian: ^S does not save. look at the bottom line of nano. it says what your command keys are |
08:36 | <ayaka> | jm_ so on? is there anything else |
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08:36 | <SynrG> | haotian: ^X will prompt you to save when it exits |
08:36 | <movl> | it's C-x, afaicr |
08:36 | <haotian> | SynrG :: I first did full-update grub. It downloaded some packages and tried to install but failed at some point because some directories was only accessible to super user and I was a noob user. So, I asked now since the packages are already somewhere in my computer. Probably instead of doing "aptitude full-upgrade grub" maybe I should just do "aptitude install grub" just asking what I should do |
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08:36 | <SynrG> | then 'y', then 'enter' |
08:36 | <jm_> | ayaka: support for various graphics chips (acceleration ...) |
08:36 | <king> | could u help me install a dowloaded debian server |
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08:37 | <ayaka> | jm_ could you tell me index key, i will search it |
08:37 | <SynrG> | haotian: full-upgrade does not take a package name argument |
08:38 | <jm_> | ayaka: the simplest option is to run kernel config and look ath the FB related options |
08:38 | <king> | thanx |
08:38 | <SynrG> | haotian: honestly if you're not superuser i have no idea what 'aptitude full-upgrade' would do. i am suprised you say it downloaded some packages |
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08:39 | <SynrG> | it should not have permission to write on the usual cache |
08:39 | <king> | sup ikenjor |
08:39 | <haotian> | SynrG :: well it tried to something I dunno what it did. and it threw error. |
08:39 | <ayaka> | jm_ i means no FB solution |
08:39 | <SynrG> | haotian: i doubt if it did anything useful |
08:39 | <ikenjor> | sup |
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08:40 | <haotian> | done with making myself super user |
08:40 | <ikenjor> | what the? |
08:40 | <king> | this is an debian sever line how can i help u ikenjor |
08:40 | <ikenjor> | k |
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08:40 | <king> | where u from |
08:40 | <movl> | king: wtf |
08:40 | <SynrG> | king: if you don't know even the fundamentals to installing debian i think you should not be offering help |
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08:40 | <ikenjor> | sdz |
08:41 | <jm_> | ayaka: in that case you're limited to text mode or stuff like svgalib/dga/mga or similar |
08:41 | <tsandlam_> | WAZZUP |
08:41 | <king> | i am from noth carolina |
08:41 | <movl> | tsandlam_: your caps |
08:41 | <ikenjor> | tsanddlam Hi, ur gay |
08:41 | <haotian> | kay my grub is already up to date |
08:41 | <haotian> | and it doesn't boot to winblows |
08:41 | <movl> | ikenjor: check your manners and spelling |
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08:41 | <movl> | thanks |
08:41 | <ayaka> | jm_ yes, but who will use such odl mode like svglib/dga/mga |
08:41 | <king> | wats a sever where no wons on |
08:42 | <arand> | haotian: Do you have os-prober installed? |
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08:42 | <jm_> | ayaka: program written for it, one example is mplayer |
08:42 | <Yo> | hi |
08:42 | <SynrG> | !ops king, Yo, check other nicks, same ip#, random noise |
08:42 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: synrg complains about: king, Yo, check other nicks, same ip#, random noise |
08:42 | <jm_> | note that some of those require root access |
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08:43 | <ayaka> | jm_ oh,i remember, which always are disable by me when I compile it |
08:43 | <ayaka> | jm_ thank you very much |
08:43 | <SynrG> | Ganneff: thanks. and 41.215.152.152 |
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08:44 | <ayaka> | then next question,i hear FB is future , so graphic driver will written for it, and X will base on it in the future? |
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08:45 | <SynrG> | haotian: did you try 'sudo update-grub'? |
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08:45 | <SynrG> | haotian: my understanding is that with os-prober present, that should automatically detect and update your grub config with other detected OSes |
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08:46 | <SynrG> | Maulkin: tnx |
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08:47 | <haotian> | ohh wait I'm doing it now |
08:48 | <haotian> | first time I tried to do it, either I failed (either me wrong or something else) |
08:48 | <haotian> | now it's doing something |
08:48 | <haotian> | Thanks for notifying |
08:48 | <SynrG> | it should report which OSes & kernels it finds. verify it gives what looks like sane results to you |
08:48 | <haotian> | What I actually did was , aptitude update grub |
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08:48 | <haotian> | ohh |
08:48 | <haotian> | thanks a lot |
08:48 | <SynrG> | ah. wrong command :) |
08:49 | <SynrG> | i was quite precise ... |
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08:49 | <haotian> | it generated grub.cfg |
08:49 | <haotian> | and found my winblows ! |
08:49 | <SynrG> | wonderful |
08:49 | <haotian> | restarting now (: |
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08:50 | <haotian> | hoo hoo hoo hoo ! |
08:50 | * | haotian treats SynrG with russian girl |
08:50 | <haotian> | it worked thanks |
08:50 | <SynrG> | no russian girl, thanks. cash will do ;) |
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08:51 | <haotian> | nice |
08:51 | <haotian> | now time to learn how to setup httpd server, and a git repo (: |
08:51 | <SynrG> | but seriously, the pleasure is mine. glad we got you sorted out |
08:51 | <haotian> | though first will forward some ports from router |
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08:51 | <SynrG> | good luck. i have to attend to work. others here can help |
08:52 | <haotian> | Wasn't going to ask anything really (: |
08:52 | <haotian> | There are plenty of documents, I hope they are enough |
08:52 | * | SynrG nods |
08:52 | <SynrG> | also if you priv msg dpkg bot, it knows a lot |
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08:52 | <yoshimi-pink> | I'm trying to get the b43/ucode5.fx and b43-open/ucode.fw files for a computer im installing debian on, i was wondering if anyone knows where i can download them? the computer does not have a direct connection to the internet so apt-get install is out |
08:53 | <yoshimi-pink> | * b43/ucode5.fw |
08:54 | <SynrG> | i believe the license is so restrictive we can't redistribute those at all, not even in non-free, so there is some installer package to install them. |
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08:55 | <SynrG> | you could install them on some other debian system and then copy them over i suppose. otherwise you're on your own |
08:55 | <babilen> | yoshimi-pink: You have no internet connection whatsoever? Which operating system do you use on the computer you are currently chatting from? The firmware is typically extracted from binary blob drivers (with b43-fwcutter) -- This can be done manually with b43-fwcutter or simply by installing the appropriate firmware-b43-??? package. |
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08:56 | <SynrG> | oh? that's why apt-file can't find them. sorry to misdirect you |
08:57 | <yoshimi-pink> | both laptops but the |
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08:57 | <babilen> | yoshimi-pink: See http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43-b43legacy and http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 for details. |
08:57 | <SynrG> | babilen: or am i essentially correct? |
08:57 | <yoshimi-pink> | the internet wire thingy is broken, |
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08:58 | <babilen> | SynrG: Yes, you are. The firmware is *not* at all part of *NIX, but is extracted from a binary windows/osx driver. (IIRC, last played with this *ages* ago) -- AFAIK firmware-b43-* download a ms windows/osx driver and extract it from there. |
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08:58 | <SynrG> | ok |
08:59 | <babilen> | yoshimi-pink: You are currently online -- How do you connect and which operating system are you running at the moment? |
08:59 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok |
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08:59 | <yoshimi-pink> | I have two computers, both laptps the direct wire connection thingy on the other computer is broken and the b43 is what i need to get the wifi to work |
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09:00 | <yoshimi-pink> | this comptuer is running ubuntu im tryin to switch over |
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09:02 | <babilen> | yoshimi-pink: Ok, you should have the firmware on your Ubuntu (or you can use Ubuntu to extract it) -- Take a look at /lib/firmware/* and b43-fwcutter. |
09:02 | <babilen> | !tell yoshimi-pink -about installer firmware |
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09:04 | <babilen> | yoshimi-pink: You might also just want to install a minimal system first (from the netinstall or CD1/DVD1) and take it from there, but it shouldn't be much of a problem to provide the firmware acquired on Ubuntu to the installer. (or merely copy it manually to /lib/firmware/??? |
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09:10 | <diraol1> | Hi friends, i'm trying to change the default Group of new users on my system. I've executed 'useradd -g 1002' but when creating new users it didn't worked, the default group stills "usergroup". |
09:10 | <petemc> | diraol1: looked at /etc/adduser.conf ? |
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09:12 | <diraol1> | i've tryied /etc/default/useradd ... i haven't seen this file yet.. i'll test it petemc =) |
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09:23 | <valdyn> | diraol1: you should be using adduser, not useradd |
09:23 | <diraol1> | why valdyn ? |
09:24 | <valdyn> | diraol1: because it does pick the proper default group, create the proper $HOME, pick a proper numeric uid, copy /etc/skel/ etc and follows /etc/adduser.conf without fancy command line arguments |
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09:25 | <diraol1> | valdyn: oh, i see... thanks for you and for petemc , it worked now! |
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10:05 | <AgentC> | hi |
10:07 | <AgentC> | is dist-upgrade the only way to install testing ? |
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10:11 | <daemonkeeper> | AgentC: The only reliable way. |
10:11 | <daemonkeeper> | AgentC: There are Testing images, but their purpose is primarily to test the Testing *installer*. |
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10:30 | <super_dieguito> | irc.epiknet.org |
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10:36 | <fbs> | how do i pass options to cryptsetup & mkfs in the debianinstaller/partman? |
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10:48 | <admin-club-linux> | bon jours a tout le monde |
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10:49 | <admin-club-linux> | bonjour |
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10:49 | <Soleman> | hello! |
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10:51 | <@Ganneff> | !fr |
10:51 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
10:52 | <Soleman> | is it quiet here? |
10:53 | <petemc> | it can be |
10:53 | <Soleman> | seems like it |
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10:53 | * | gnugr doupt |
10:54 | <Soleman> | is there any special interest groups for styff like raid issues etc |
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10:55 | <gnugr> | Soleman: its a debian help channel |
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10:55 | <gnugr> | debian-support channel |
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10:55 | <Soleman> | yeap i have debian 3.0 running on a box called a yellow machine |
10:56 | <movl> | 3.0? o.0 |
10:57 | <gnugr> | Soleman: if you have a question about debian, just ask |
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10:58 | <Soleman> | lost a drive and replaced did not rebuild raid set |
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10:59 | <Soleman> | need help driving config to re establish array and assemble - not all that familier |
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11:07 | <unifiedlinux> | hey everyone |
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11:08 | <Soleman> | hey |
11:08 | <unifiedlinux> | can anyone tell me how to make a new partition on a disk /dev/sda (there is nothing on it, i did a low level format) ? thanks |
11:09 | <petemc> | cfdisk |
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11:10 | <unifiedlinux> | should i use primary or logical partition ? |
11:10 | <unifiedlinux> | it's not for the / partition, it's to put my /home on it |
11:11 | <petemc> | do you plan to have more than 4 partitions? |
11:11 | <unifiedlinux> | no, it's a 20Gb disk, i only need 1 partition on it |
11:11 | <petemc> | primary should be fine then |
11:11 | <unifiedlinux> | ok thanks :) |
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11:15 | <ayaka> | I don't want to change default boot in grub2,but i want to it boot to another once time after reboot,how to |
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11:18 | <amoe> | Anyone know how to move a storage volume between pools in virt-manager? |
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11:19 | * | amoe takes it to #virt |
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11:22 | <unifiedlinux> | can you tell me if this is correct : mkfs -V -t ext3 /dev/sda1; i need it for a new /home partition ? |
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11:23 | <Soleman> | how do I rebuild 4 Disk(250GB) RAID5 /dev/hde failed and fstab no longer has record of array, each drive has 4 partitions but mdadm.conf only refers to 4th partition..novice with linux |
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11:24 | <movl> | Soleman: how did you build the array in the first place? |
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11:24 | <movl> | or it was someone else? |
11:24 | <rpetre> | hello, short question: i'll need to build, distribute and maintain some .debs for my machines, what's the recommended tool to maintain a private repo nowadays? still reprepro? |
11:24 | <ayaka> | do you use soft raid or hard? |
11:25 | <unifiedlinux> | soleman: i'm novice with linux but i think if it's a hardware raid, you should use the BIOS to configure it |
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11:25 | <unifiedlinux> | a hardware raid is seen by the system like a standard hard drive |
11:25 | <Soleman> | software raid i belive as using mdadm? |
11:26 | <ayaka> | Soleman yep it is |
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11:26 | <SynrG> | !fakeraid |
11:26 | <dpkg> | Fakeraid is a term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS. For use with Debian systems, it is suggested that you do not set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID instead; ask me about <md>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
11:26 | <ayaka> | how mang disks it has and how many broke |
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11:27 | <Soleman> | box is a yellowmachine circa 2005 debian v3, 4 disk array one disk broken |
11:27 | <ayaka> | SynrG it is not fakeraid it's md i think |
11:27 | <movl> | Soleman: the latest Debian release is 6.0.4 |
11:28 | <movl> | I suggest a backup, reinstall and new array |
11:28 | <SynrG> | (that was mostly for unifiedlinux's benefit ... fakeraid is *not* recommended, but rather software raid instead) |
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11:28 | <ayaka> | SynrG i can't more agree.with you |
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11:30 | <ayaka> | movl but i think there is no problem rebuilding |
11:30 | <Soleman> | trouble is array is inactive unable to see data |
11:30 | <valdyn> | Soleman: why rebuild? if only one disk is broken it should work fine |
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11:30 | <movl> | ayaka: 3.0 is long dead and gone, that's why |
11:30 | <movl> | and you won't get support from nobody |
11:31 | <ayaka> | Soleman do you insert a new disk |
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11:31 | <Soleman> | yeap inserted ne disk didi not regen |
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11:31 | <Soleman> | start of probs |
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11:32 | <ayaka> | movl but but backup is wasting time , and mdadmin is same |
11:32 | <Soleman> | apart from the drive fail of course |
11:32 | <movl> | ayaka: backup is wasting time? |
11:32 | <ayaka> | Soleman rebuild array |
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11:32 | <SynrG> | in a system that old i gotta wonder if nobody's been watching and first one, then the other disk went bad |
11:32 | <ayaka> | movl like me, i don't have more space and disk |
11:32 | <valdyn> | Soleman: mdadm mail probably went to /dev/null ;) |
11:33 | <ayaka> | i think just regard it as squeeze, sovle it first |
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11:33 | <valdyn> | Soleman: youre fucked if 2 disks broke, your data is practically gone |
11:33 | <ayaka> | valdyn you had better don't use that word |
11:34 | <Soleman> | hde failed hda,c and g ok |
11:34 | <movl> | well if you don't have backups you're screwed anyway |
11:34 | <valdyn> | Soleman: so you run "mdadm --assemble --scan" and that does what? |
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11:34 | <valdyn> | Soleman: im wondering if you could even have mdadm at debian 3 |
11:34 | <bigbox> | SAA |
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11:35 | <Soleman> | mdadm is there |
11:36 | <yoshimi-pink> | hey |
11:36 | <movl> | Soleman: a long-outdated version, no backup and multiple disks failing? Houston, you have a problem |
11:36 | <Soleman> | its seems like the array doesnt know the new drive has been installed |
11:36 | <Soleman> | ONLY one disk failed |
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11:36 | <yoshimi-pink> | why is debian better than ubuntu? |
11:36 | <movl> | yoshimi-pink: don't troll, please |
11:37 | <valdyn> | Soleman: what happens when you run my command? |
11:37 | <Soleman> | getting console up now |
11:37 | <yoshimi-pink> | I am not trolling I am switching, this is a serious question |
11:37 | <valdyn> | !tell yoshimi-pink -about why debian |
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11:38 | <valdyn> | Soleman: how do you think the array should know about the new drive? |
11:38 | <yoshimi-pink> | ty |
11:39 | <Soleman> | cammnd returned mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 2 drives - not enough to start it (use --run to insist). |
11:39 | <valdyn> | Soleman: so 2 disks broke |
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11:39 | <Soleman> | its not recognising the new drive |
11:39 | <valdyn> | Soleman: or alternatively, you removed the disk that was not broken |
11:39 | <Soleman> | as part of the array |
11:39 | <Soleman> | nah |
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11:40 | <valdyn> | Soleman: thats ok, md is not supposed to autodetect your intetion to add a drive |
11:40 | <valdyn> | *intention* |
11:40 | <yoshimi-pink> | could anything go wrong if i select all the install prompt? |
11:40 | <valdyn> | Soleman: adding the 4th drive is not a problem, you need the original 3rd drive |
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11:40 | <yoshimi-pink> | the various servers desktop environment etc. |
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11:42 | <valdyn> | Soleman: you can use mdadm --examine to inspect raid members |
11:42 | <valdyn> | Soleman: and till you find the original 3rd drive, theres nothing you can do |
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11:43 | <Soleman> | fdisk -l reports all drives present, disk0,1,3 with partitions 1-4 on each new drive has none but is present |
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11:43 | <valdyn> | Soleman: so go ahead use mdadm --examine on the raid members |
11:43 | <Soleman> | k |
11:44 | <valdyn> | Soleman: theres needs to be 3 partitions all carrying the same uuid as shown by mdadm --examine |
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11:45 | <Soleman> | returns no devices to examin as /dev/md0 off line inactive |
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11:47 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok I'm on a fresh install of debian on my other computer and its in coomand line interface |
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11:47 | <yoshimi-pink> | I want the xfce to work, how to i do this? |
11:47 | <valdyn> | Soleman: you are supposed to examine raid members, not the raid |
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11:49 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: aptitude install xorg xfce4 gdm |
11:49 | <Soleman> | Valdyn: it would seem from looking at fstab and mdadm.conf a mismatch in configuration, which i think is at the root of the prob |
11:49 | <valdyn> | Soleman: no it isnt |
11:50 | <valdyn> | Soleman: the root of the problem is that were not finding the missing raid member |
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11:51 | <valdyn> | Soleman: cat /proc/mdstat might |
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11:51 | <valdyn> | Soleman: "cat /proc/mdstat" might show you the raid with 2 members. You need the missing 3rd intact to get this raid going |
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11:52 | <Soleman> | i have 3 drive all working 1 new drive not being reconised in the array |
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11:52 | <Soleman> | 4 drive in total |
11:52 | <valdyn> | Soleman: geez, youre not listening |
11:52 | <valdyn> | Soleman: show us your /proc/mdstat |
11:53 | <valdyn> | Soleman: this is a raid5, it needs 3 to work and 4 to be protected from drive fault |
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11:53 | <valdyn> | Soleman: as soon as you have 3 and the raid is working fine, then adding the 4th makes sense, not before that |
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11:54 | <Soleman> | YellowTerror:/# cat /proc/mdstat |
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11:54 | <Soleman> | Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid5] |
11:54 | <Soleman> | read_ahead not set |
11:54 | <Soleman> | md0 : inactive hda4[0] hdg4[3] hdc4[1] |
11:54 | <Soleman> | 0 blocks |
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11:54 | -!- | Soleman was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
11:55 | <yoshimi-pink> | ? |
11:55 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: kicked for spamming |
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11:55 | <yoshimi-pink> | oh ok, i was wondering about the xfce |
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11:55 | <valdyn> | !tell Soleman -about paste |
11:55 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: i thought i told you |
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11:56 | <yoshimi-pink> | my laptop isnt connected to the internet so aptitude isnt an option, but i added xfce to the install commandline like this website told me to |
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11:57 | <yoshimi-pink> | it just didnt start up in gui |
11:57 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: aptitude works the same from command line if you use cdrom or dvd or internet |
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11:57 | <Soleman> | sorry |
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11:57 | <yoshimi-pink> | no cd, no dvd, no internet its already installed |
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11:58 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: you need some package source to install packages |
11:58 | <valdyn> | Soleman: read what dpkg told you about paste, i still need to see /proc/mdstat |
11:59 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok how do i mount a thumb drive from command line |
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11:59 | <Soleman> | k |
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11:59 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/" |
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11:59 | <Soleman> | Posting 161139 from Soleman posted at 2012-03-27 17:59:01 paste debain |
12:00 | <valdyn> | Soleman: hmm, i didnt need to see that, the URL will do |
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12:00 | <meyote> | SynrG, thanks for the help with nvidia drivers, got them working now :) |
12:01 | <valdyn> | Soleman: thats not /proc/mdstat |
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12:02 | <Soleman> | http://paste.debian.net/161141/ |
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12:02 | <yoshimi-pink> | yay! :D ty ty ty ty <3 |
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12:03 | <valdyn> | Soleman: run "mdadm --examine /dev/hda4" for all 3 raid members and show us the output |
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12:03 | <Soleman> | valdyn: k |
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12:05 | <yoshimi-pink> | im having some trouble finding xfce4 package |
12:06 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: that package depends on a large number of smaller packages |
12:06 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: same as xorg , you wont have fun sorting that out manually |
12:07 | <yoshimi-pink> | i thought debian was suppose to come with the gui on the disk? |
12:07 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: it does |
12:07 | <yoshimi-pink> | then how do i start it up |
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12:08 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: which disk did you get? |
12:08 | <Soleman> | ping 192.168.0.254 |
12:08 | <yoshimi-pink> | stable |
12:08 | <Soleman> | sorry |
12:08 | <yoshimi-pink> | i386 |
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12:08 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: theres like 5 different disks for stable that can be used to install debian |
12:09 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: the name of the iso image would help.. |
12:09 | <yoshimi-pink> | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/iso-cd/ |
12:09 | <yoshimi-pink> | the first one |
12:09 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: that one comes with gnome, not xfce, iirc |
12:10 | <yoshimi-pink> | then where can i get the one with xfce cause i dont know how to google |
12:10 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: same place, it has xfce in the name |
12:10 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: its an alternate 1st |
12:10 | <yoshimi-pink> | *facepalm* |
12:10 | <yoshimi-pink> | thank you <3 |
12:10 | <retrospectacus> | you can also just install the base system and then install xfce4 manually |
12:11 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: you really really want network access |
12:11 | <yoshimi-pink> | yes, with the internet, which i dont have |
12:11 | <retrospectacus> | oic |
12:11 | <yoshimi-pink> | i have to wait two days before i can get the internet for personal reasons |
12:11 | <yoshimi-pink> | i dont want to wait that long for an install |
12:12 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: I would have gotten just the 1st dvd |
12:12 | <yoshimi-pink> | yeah but i really like xfce :( |
12:12 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: sure, the 1st dvd probably contains them all |
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12:13 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: i dont actually know, see /msg dpkg cd contents |
12:13 | <meyote> | oops o_O |
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12:13 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i missed your paste |
12:13 | <yoshimi-pink> | ty valdyn ur so sweet <3 |
12:14 | <ayaka> | but i think lxde is another choice whick is light ad xfec |
12:14 | <Soleman> | no u didnt; box rebooted |
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12:15 | <Soleman> | http://paste.debian.net/161145/ |
12:16 | <valdyn> | Soleman: for all 3 please |
12:16 | <Soleman> | comming |
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12:17 | <yoshimi-pink> | is there a way to log into root with gui? |
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12:18 | <retrospectacus> | yoshimi-pink: perhaps but you should not do that |
12:18 | <yoshimi-pink> | im loged into root right now on the other computer, just in command line |
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12:18 | <yoshimi-pink> | I run GNU/Linux because i dont like being told what to do xD |
12:18 | <Soleman> | Valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/161146/ |
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12:19 | <retrospectacus> | yoshimi-pink: using the GUI as root bring security problems. You should only use it as the user, and use gksu or such, or open a terminal and use su, to do administrative things |
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12:20 | <ayaka> | but i think you can just edit some files in /etc/pam.d |
12:20 | <ayaka> | i think that |
12:20 | <valdyn> | Soleman: so obviously the hdg4 dropped out faulty |
12:20 | <valdyn> | Soleman: and the raid stopped |
12:20 | <Soleman> | looks like it |
12:20 | <yoshimi-pink> | oh ok, ty |
12:20 | <valdyn> | Soleman: and first thing you want to do is just force it to run with 3 disks |
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12:20 | <Soleman> | can we do this? |
12:20 | <valdyn> | Soleman: not sure how thats done, try "mdadm --run /dev/md0" |
12:21 | <valdyn> | Soleman: yes |
12:22 | <ayaka> | retrospectacus actually i forget how to do it, is it my way correct |
12:22 | <retrospectacus> | ayaka: The correct way is don't. |
12:22 | <Soleman> | valdyn: mdadm: failed to run array /dev/md0: Invalid argument |
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12:22 | <valdyn> | Soleman: mdadm --assemble --assume-clean /dev/md0 |
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12:23 | <retrospectacus> | ayaka: we teach people "the Debian way", how to use their system properly, not help them do dumb things and break stuff |
12:23 | <Soleman> | Valdyn: mdadm: unrecognized option `--assume-clean' |
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12:24 | <valdyn> | Soleman: because your mdadm is so old.. |
12:24 | <Soleman> | guessing so |
12:24 | <yoshimi-pink> | how do you shut down your computer with command line? |
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12:24 | <retrospectacus> | yoshimi-pink: with the shutdown command |
12:25 | <retrospectacus> | yoshimi-pink: e.g. shutdown -h now (man shutdown) |
12:26 | <ayaka> | retrospectacus but i really want to know |
12:26 | <Soleman> | valdyn: too risky to try and upgrade that software component? |
12:26 | <valdyn> | Soleman: "mdadm --run --force /dev/md0" maybe... |
12:26 | <yoshimi-pink> | yes, thank you retrospectacus |
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12:27 | <valdyn> | Soleman: that alone is probably a few hours of work |
12:27 | <retrospectacus> | ayaka: I'm really telling you, never do that! Don't consider it, don't try to help someone when they say they want to, tell them not to. |
12:27 | <Soleman> | valdyn: mdadm: failed to run array /dev/md0: No such device |
12:28 | <valdyn> | Soleman: you can probably remove and re-add hdg4 |
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12:29 | <Soleman> | valdyn: mdadm -remove /dev/hdg4 ? |
12:29 | <ayaka> | retrospectacus well i am a student, need to know how to lock and unlock |
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12:31 | <valdyn> | Soleman: wait.. |
12:31 | <Soleman> | valdyn: k |
12:32 | <valdyn> | Soleman: can you do backups of the drives? |
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12:33 | <Soleman> | valdyn: could this be done over the lan? |
12:34 | <valdyn> | Soleman: sure, is the data important at all? |
12:34 | <ayaka> | valdyn i am sorry to bring you a long problem |
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12:36 | <Soleman> | valdyn: data is pretty important, i will do what ever needs to done, box is headless, so no direct b/u |
12:36 | <valdyn> | Soleman: ok |
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12:37 | <valdyn> | Soleman: the stuff you pasted from --examine and /proc/mdstat is very important, save it somewhere |
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12:37 | <Soleman> | valdyn: ok |
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12:37 | <valdyn> | Soleman: fixing this array is destructive to that metadata, but with your pastes saved thats not an issue |
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12:38 | <Soleman> | valdyn: ok, will double up on it |
12:39 | <valdyn> | Soleman: now you got to stop the array and force a clean assembly: |
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12:40 | <Soleman> | valdyn: need a couple of minutes pls |
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12:40 | <valdyn> | Soleman: mdadm --stop /dev/md0; mdadm --assemble --force /dev/md0 /dev/hda4 /dev/hdc4 missing /dev/hdg4 |
12:40 | <valdyn> | Soleman: sure |
12:40 | <valdyn> | Soleman: and dont run that yet |
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12:42 | <yoshimi-pink> | I am loving debian so far, so many options :D |
12:42 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: thats a little early, you'll love it more later when you understand it better |
12:43 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: at least I think debian is more overwhelming than nice to the beginner |
12:43 | <yoshimi-pink> | yay! x3 is there somthing important i should know between ubuntu/debian that's not in the docs? |
12:43 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: theres (almost) no technical difference |
12:43 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: the UI is just different |
12:44 | <yoshimi-pink> | also no canonical |
12:44 | <yoshimi-pink> | im starting to hate them but im not sure why |
12:45 | <yoshimi-pink> | felt like they weren't respecting my freedom with all these different things they kept making me use, and i had to find the one i liked on the web and reinstall and change it and it sucked so im jsut hoping debian will be more respectful of my personal space |
12:47 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: debian is restrictive on *how* you install something, not on what |
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12:47 | <yoshimi-pink> | as in? |
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12:47 | <yoshimi-pink> | i prefer command line install to the gui |
12:47 | <yoshimi-pink> | apt-get and aptitude |
12:47 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: as in youre not supposed to act against dpkg |
12:48 | <valdyn> | yoshimi-pink: oh you can use whatever frontend you want there |
12:48 | <yoshimi-pink> | lol, i dont want to, all the muddle and fuddle i dont need that lol |
12:49 | <yoshimi-pink> | I'm thinking about making my own front end for personal use, one that isnt as clunky as the garbage on ubuntu |
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12:49 | <Soleman> | valdyn: ok all mdadm --examine and cat /proc/mdstat --> http://paste.debian.net/161150/ - |
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12:49 | <valdyn> | Soleman: ok, fine |
12:50 | <valdyn> | Soleman: now you can run my abovementioned 2 commands |
12:50 | <valdyn> | Soleman: they can break the proper device order in the raid |
12:50 | <valdyn> | Soleman: thats why you have that backup of the order |
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12:51 | <Soleman> | valdyn: k, 1st one reports mdadm: fail to stop array /dev/md0: No such device |
12:52 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i dont remember how the hell device nodes were created back then, lets see |
12:53 | <tuxcrafter> | i tried booting linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae root=UUID=ce0d589d-121d-449b-9fc9-7e392b17fbda ro single console=ttyS0,115200 |
12:53 | <valdyn> | Soleman: there should be a MAKEDEV script on your system |
12:53 | <Soleman> | valdyn: k, 2nd reports mdadm: missing has no superblock - assembly aborted |
12:53 | <valdyn> | Soleman: probably in /dev |
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12:53 | <tuxcrafter> | on an alix system but it crases during or after Loading initial ramdisk ... |
12:53 | <tuxcrafter> | BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 root=UUID=ce0d589d-121d-449b-9fc9-7e392b17fbda ro rootdelay=10 console=ttyS0,115200 quiet |
12:53 | <tuxcrafter> | ^ works fine |
12:53 | <SynrG> | meyote: ah, excellent. glad it worked out |
12:54 | <valdyn> | Soleman: missing is a feature to denote a missing drive, hmm |
12:54 | <sney_> | tuxcrafter, have you tried re-creating the initramfs? |
12:55 | <valdyn> | Soleman: just skip the missing and see |
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12:55 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: running linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae root=UUID=ce0d589d-121d-449b-9fc9-7e392b17fbda ro single console=ttyS0,115200 |
12:55 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: running update-initramfs -u -k all -v |
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12:55 | <Soleman> | valdyn: MAKEDEV in /dev and /sbin |
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12:56 | <valdyn> | Soleman: cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV md0; or ./MAKEDEV md |
12:57 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i think i recall that mdadm created the device nodes automagically |
12:58 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: new intitram did the same |
12:58 | <tuxcrafter> | crashes during or after loading ramdisk |
12:58 | <Soleman> | error returned command not found |
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12:58 | <sney_> | tuxcrafter, any error messages? and does it crash or just stop loading? |
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12:58 | <valdyn> | Soleman: well, you said MAKEDEV is there, so you must have had a typo there |
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12:59 | <smhar> | a basic question first: I have an eth and wifi (AP mode) devices. I want eth to be a static IP and wifi to give IP via DHCP, I put the static IP in /etc/network/interfaces as 192.168.1.2 |
12:59 | <smhar> | where should I set the DHCP settings for the wifi, and what IP range should I choose? |
12:59 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: the system reboots |
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12:59 | <Soleman> | error returned on script components major_LCD; major_front...etc |
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12:59 | <valdyn> | Soleman: ok, lets forget about that then |
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13:00 | <Soleman> | sounds good |
13:00 | <valdyn> | Soleman: try the force assembly without missing |
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13:01 | <retrospectacus> | smhar: in the dhcpd.conf and whatever private network you like |
13:02 | <Soleman> | mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 3 drives. |
13:02 | <valdyn> | Soleman: great |
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13:02 | <valdyn> | Soleman: now lets see the --examine stuff again and the mdstat contents again |
13:02 | <sney_> | tuxcrafter, hmm, and do you have any weird hardware? have you ever suspected your ram might be faulty? |
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13:03 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: well its an alix system i use them a lot 2.6 always worked and dont thing ram is bad |
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13:03 | <sney_> | what do you mean 'alix system' |
13:04 | <kaddouri> | hi there |
13:04 | <kaddouri> | have installed debian, but can't get network connection |
13:04 | <kaddouri> | there is on the network interface an ip, but the wrong one |
13:04 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6e2.htm |
13:04 | <kaddouri> | when i want to config i can't save |
13:04 | <Soleman> | http://paste.debian.net/161151/ |
13:05 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: why/how is it "the wrong one"? You need to be root to modify interfaces or use ifconfig |
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13:05 | <kaddouri> | and how can i do that? |
13:05 | <retrospectacus> | be root? |
13:05 | <retrospectacus> | "su" |
13:06 | <kaddouri> | yes, i tried |
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13:06 | <kaddouri> | but i am new in debian |
13:06 | <kaddouri> | it's my first day |
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13:06 | <kaddouri> | what are the complete commands? |
13:06 | <smhar> | retrospectacus, I can use the eth as 192.168.1.2 and wifi as 192.168.1.x? |
13:07 | <retrospectacus> | smhar: I think you could... I prefer to provide a different network and do NAT |
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13:07 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: "su" |
13:07 | <valdyn> | Soleman: the --examine stuff ? |
13:08 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: you need to learn to ask better questions |
13:08 | <smhar> | retrospectacus, ok, not sure how to do NAT though |
13:08 | <smhar> | will need to google that later |
13:08 | <Paloma> | yes is the better question |
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13:08 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: yes, i know this command, but i want a step by step tutorial to change the ipconfiguration in the map "interfaces" |
13:09 | <Paloma> | ok |
13:09 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: read "man interfaces" |
13:09 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: where to find this? |
13:09 | <retrospectacus> | it's a command |
13:09 | <smhar> | but for now, I have /etc/dhcp/ and /etc/dhcp3/ and dhcpd.conf is in the first one, is things in order ? |
13:09 | <Soleman> | http://paste.debian.net/161153/ |
13:09 | <retrospectacus> | man |
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13:09 | <smhar> | retrospectacus, |
13:10 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: "man" is the manual command, it will show you the manual for whatever program name you pass it as an argument |
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13:10 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: that to difficult |
13:11 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: it's up to you whether you want to learn or not |
13:11 | <retrospectacus> | we are not here to do things for you |
13:11 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: can't you just tell me how to save the changes i make in this map? it says i am not the owner |
13:11 | <retrospectacus> | I did. |
13:11 | <retrospectacus> | su |
13:11 | <retrospectacus> | *then* edit the file |
13:11 | <valdyn> | Soleman: this looks excellent. Does /dev/md0 exist now? |
13:12 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: using the terminal you ran su in. You can use the text editor "nano" it is pretty simple |
13:12 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: you mean in terminal? i meant in the map, not in the terminal |
13:12 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: yes. I don't know what a "map" is... |
13:12 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: ok i will try it |
13:13 | <Soleman> | look like there is something there |
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13:13 | <kop> | kaddouri: You will need to look at the bottom of the screen when running nano. That's where it tells you what keys to press. |
13:13 | <valdyn> | Soleman: ok, now you can mount that filesystem, but should do so only read-only |
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13:14 | <Soleman> | sorry champ mount who? linux novice |
13:14 | <valdyn> | Soleman: you can first copy things from that fs or you can first add a 4th raid member |
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13:14 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: how can i enter the file in terminal? |
13:14 | <valdyn> | Soleman: wheres your 4th disk? |
13:15 | <Soleman> | ? the new one? |
13:15 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: you type the path to the file as the argument to "nano" |
13:15 | <valdyn> | Soleman: yes |
13:15 | <Soleman> | in the box |
13:15 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: like this, nano /etc/network/interfaces |
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13:15 | <kaddouri> | a ok |
13:15 | <Soleman> | aka machine |
13:15 | <valdyn> | Soleman: add it, let it sync |
13:15 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: you can use the Tab key to help complete filenames |
13:15 | <Soleman> | /dev/hde |
13:15 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: and before the nano, do i type su? |
13:15 | <valdyn> | Soleman: worst case though hdg will fail again and that sync cant complete |
13:16 | <valdyn> | Soleman: ok, first you need to get proper partitions on that disk |
13:16 | <Soleman> | sfdisk? |
13:16 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: yes enter su by itself, then you will get a different prompt |
13:16 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: then you are root, and will be able to save that file |
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13:16 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: your the man, i got it thanx |
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13:18 | <Soleman> | ?fdisk /dev/hde ? |
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13:18 | <valdyn> | Soleman: is it hde? |
13:19 | <valdyn> | Soleman: we could just clone the other disks partition table |
13:19 | <Soleman> | ok how do i do that pls |
13:19 | <valdyn> | Soleman: sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk /dev/hde |
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13:19 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: an other issue, i have to make my debian a primary dns, mailserver and webserver |
13:20 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: any idea |
13:20 | <Soleman> | cool must be learning somethings see above :) |
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13:21 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: hum |
13:21 | <Soleman> | poo Warning: given size (109051522) exceeds max allowable size (0) sfdisk: bad input |
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13:21 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i cant say if the kernel is notified about it when you run that command, if /dev/hde4 is still missing then we need to do that manually |
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13:22 | <valdyn> | Soleman: try hdg on the left side instead |
13:22 | <Soleman> | ok |
13:22 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: any tutorials? |
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13:22 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: for how many domains? |
13:22 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: it will be an external |
13:23 | <Soleman> | same |
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13:23 | <Soleman> | err |
13:23 | <valdyn> | Soleman: is hde smaller than the other disks? |
13:23 | <Soleman> | same size |
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13:25 | <valdyn> | Soleman: looks to me like your sfdisk is actiing funny |
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13:25 | <valdyn> | Soleman: you can just create a single large partition on hde i suppose |
13:25 | <Soleman> | yeah maybe revision issue |
13:25 | <valdyn> | Soleman: use fdisk or cfdisk |
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13:26 | <Soleman> | ok fdisking now |
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13:26 | <valdyn> | Soleman: maybe the disk is a tiny bit smaller |
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13:26 | <Soleman> | possible slightly dif model number |
13:27 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i usually set the type to fd ( Linux raid autodetect ), but thats not important |
13:27 | <jhockin> | Has anything changed recently in regards to updating squeeze to 2.6.38 via back ports? Using the method outlined many places online but aptitude is returning no results for linux-image-2.6.38-bpo.2-amd64 |
13:27 | <valdyn> | jhockin: maybe its no longer supported, theres plenty newer kernes on bpo |
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13:28 | <Soleman> | managent screen reporting degraded RAID, |
13:28 | <retrospectacus> | jhockin: "apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64" will tell you what's available |
13:28 | <valdyn> | Soleman: thats ok |
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13:28 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: should i post a bugreport? |
13:28 | <jhockin> | great, thanks |
13:28 | <valdyn> | Soleman: it is degraded |
13:28 | <Soleman> | repair utility is asking to do repair |
13:29 | <valdyn> | Soleman: now you know that management screen is working |
13:29 | <valdyn> | Soleman: thats so not debian. I cant know that repair tool. |
13:29 | <Soleman> | very very much more +ve then b4 |
13:29 | <sney_> | tuxcrafter, worth a shot |
13:29 | <valdyn> | Soleman: youre about done, but you havent looked at the data on the raid yet |
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13:29 | <Soleman> | not yet |
13:30 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 510] by debhelper |
13:30 | <Soleman> | shoulf i be able to see it from console screen |
13:30 | <Soleman> | should i be able to |
13:30 | <valdyn> | Soleman: after that fdisk you can either: mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/hde1 or use that repair tool where i cant help you |
13:32 | <Soleman> | the repair tool is cgi script drive mdadm |
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13:32 | <Soleman> | and other perl scripts.. what do you recommend do fdisk |
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13:33 | <valdyn> | Soleman: just add that disk as shown above and ignore the repair tool |
13:33 | <Soleman> | ok |
13:34 | <valdyn> | Soleman: then look at /proc/mdstat |
13:35 | <Soleman> | ok, should the --add b4 /dev/hde1 or hde4 ? |
13:35 | <tuxcrafter> | whats the name of the package to install a memcheck86 alike tool |
13:35 | <tuxcrafter> | that can be started from grub2 |
13:35 | <sney_> | !memtest |
13:35 | <dpkg> | To test a computer's memory subsystem for faults, use either: memtest86 / memtest86+ (thorough real-mode testers) or memtester, all packaged for Debian. memtest86+ is included in <debian live>. For GRUB Legacy, set memtest86=true in /boot/grub/menu.lst and run "update-grub" to enable memtest86/memtest86+ boot selections. The make-memtest86{,+}-boot-floppy script depends on GRUB Legacy. http://www.memtest.org/ See also <grub2 badram>. |
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13:36 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i think you only created 1 large partition |
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13:36 | <valdyn> | Soleman: that would then be hde1 |
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13:37 | <tuxcrafter> | ow wauw memtest from serial console :D |
13:37 | <tuxcrafter> | sney_: thx its runnen |
13:37 | <tuxcrafter> | i just want to be sure |
13:39 | <Soleman> | valdyn: the other drives have 4 partitions |
13:39 | <valdyn> | Soleman: yes |
13:39 | <Soleman> | ok |
13:39 | <EmleyMoor> | In my .xsession-errors, I get rather a lot of Bonobo-WARNING **: Bonobo must be initialized before use from various programs - how do I resolve it so that I no longer get this message filling up the file? |
13:39 | <valdyn> | Soleman: but we cant replicate that exactly, we already tried, the new disk is to small |
13:40 | <Soleman> | ok |
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13:41 | <Soleman> | new partition reports partition 2 does not end on cyclinder boundry |
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13:41 | <valdyn> | Soleman: doesnt matter |
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13:43 | <valdyn> | Soleman: all we need is a partition that is at least big enough, cant do much wrong |
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13:44 | <AntonioPiconMora> | HOla |
13:44 | <Soleman> | partition created reread partition table/ syncing disks |
13:45 | <AntonioPiconMora> | Puta |
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13:45 | <Soleman> | hot added hde1 |
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13:46 | <PIKONETO> | Pulido |
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13:46 | <PIKONETO> | estas ahi? |
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13:47 | <kaddouri> | hi |
13:47 | <PIKONETO> | puta |
13:47 | <PIKONETO> | coño |
13:47 | <PIKONETO> | tetas |
13:47 | <PIKONETO> | shit |
13:47 | <kaddouri> | i can ping but still don't have internetconnection |
13:47 | <sney_> | !ops PIKONETO |
13:47 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: sney_ complains about: PIKONETO |
13:47 | <PIKONETO> | FUCK |
13:47 | <Soleman> | valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/161158/ /proc/mdstat |
13:47 | <PIKONETO> | cabrones hijosputa |
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13:48 | <valdyn> | Soleman: what is supposed to be on /dev/md0? |
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13:49 | <Soleman> | data |
13:49 | <valdyn> | Soleman: database? files ? |
13:49 | <Soleman> | files |
13:49 | <valdyn> | Soleman: sure data, its always data |
13:49 | <valdyn> | Soleman: hows it accessed ? |
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13:50 | <valdyn> | Soleman: nm, can you show the relevant fstab line or the whole fstab file? |
13:50 | <Soleman> | mapped drive to windows machines |
13:50 | <kaddouri> | can someone help? |
13:50 | <valdyn> | Soleman: ok |
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13:50 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: ping is internet connection. |
13:50 | <valdyn> | Soleman: dont reboot btw |
13:50 | <Soleman> | currently windows drive show "folder is empty" |
13:51 | <valdyn> | Soleman: yes, naturally |
13:51 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i need to see /etc/fstab |
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13:51 | <kaddouri> | yes, but when i want to surf on the internet, it doesn't load |
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13:51 | <Soleman> | im guessing the raid is rebuilding |
13:51 | <TooEaZy> | #plovdiv |
13:51 | <TooEaZy> | ops |
13:52 | <valdyn> | Soleman: yes, it is rebuilding |
13:52 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: insufficient data for meaningful answer |
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13:52 | <valdyn> | Soleman: i cant wait for that though, see the 1157 minutes from mdstat |
13:53 | <valdyn> | Soleman: so what you want to do now is make sure nothing tries to write to the raid, but you can look at whats there anyway |
13:53 | <Soleman> | DOH! i'll wait |
13:53 | <valdyn> | Soleman: but for that i need to see fstab |
13:54 | <Soleman> | ok |
13:54 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: i changed my ip adrress, but i can't connect, i can ping the dns and other ip's, when i want to install something in terminal, its not installing, when i go to the browser, no site is loading |
13:54 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: what does "wget http://google.com" do? |
13:55 | <movl> | :)) |
13:55 | <Soleman> | should i be able to see file from the console? |
13:55 | <Soleman> | file/s |
13:55 | <valdyn> | Soleman: not yet |
13:55 | <Soleman> | ok |
13:55 | <valdyn> | Soleman: but yes, and from your windows clients |
13:55 | <Soleman> | sweeet i think |
13:56 | <Soleman> | you have been an absolute champion!!!! |
13:56 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: name or server not known. unable to resolve host address |
13:56 | <SynrG> | wow, this has been a most entertaining support call to follow |
13:56 | <SynrG> | Soleman, valdyn: thanks for providing me with entertainment :0 |
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13:56 | <Soleman> | I think I may have another child JUST so I can name them after you!!! |
13:57 | <retrospectacus> | hahaha |
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13:57 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: what's your nameserver? It says in /etc/resolv.conf |
13:57 | <Soleman> | wait 4 the movie to come out!! i be played by ....... |
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13:58 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: you said you can ping it... but I guess it does not know where "google.com" is |
13:58 | <Short_circuit> | Have a question. Current pc is getting reinstalled. Install is dual boot like last. I'm upgrading from deb 5 to deb 6. I can boot to desktop but I'm trying to get 3d accelleration running. I used the nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-amd64 to match my kernel but I can't get xorg configured to use it. Xorg -configure fails out with |
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13:59 | <Short_circuit> | (EE) [drm] no dricreatpcibusid symbol |
13:59 | <Short_circuit> | Number of created screens does not match the number of detected devices |
13:59 | <Short_circuit> | configuration failed |
13:59 | <Short_circuit> | I'm currently in singer user mode |
13:59 | <Short_circuit> | machine is quad core amd 64 obviously. Card is nivida 9800gt |
13:59 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: retrospectacus in that file is the wrong ip i think, which ip does i have to fill in? |
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14:00 | <Short_circuit> | debian 5 had no problems with this exact setup |
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14:00 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: whatever is the IP of your nameserver. No way for me to know, only you. |
14:00 | <sney_> | Short_circuit, use an xorg.conf snippet in xorg.conf.d |
14:00 | <valdyn> | i'd be curious to know if any data is recoverable even |
14:01 | <sney_> | just a "Device" section by itself with an identifier and a driver line |
14:01 | <Short_circuit> | Oh.. and I had software accell goin ok.. but game play is to restricted |
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14:01 | <Short_circuit> | I was trying to generate an xorg.conf by running the configure. N/G I have no xorg.conf |
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14:01 | <valdyn> | Soleman: your raid is rebuilding, but its already readable. If the data is intact is probable but totally unknown yet |
14:02 | <Short_circuit> | so each boot Xorg auto detects |
14:02 | <Short_circuit> | just not doing so correctly |
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14:02 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: usually the IP of your router, or nameserver(s) provided by your ISP. You could also use 4.2.2.2 or 8.8.8.8 but they will be slower |
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14:03 | <Short_circuit> | Oh.. manually create |
14:03 | <retrospectacus> | kaddouri: also that file is usually overwritten by your dhcp client |
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14:04 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: i just changed it, but still no changes |
14:04 | <Soleman> | Valdyn: thanks for your help eitherway its prob more productive than me bang my head against the box and drooling |
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14:05 | <TCW> | how big is archive.debian.org/debian/*? I mean the FS usage... any admins around? :) |
14:06 | <valdyn> | Soleman: welcome |
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14:06 | <valdyn> | !debstats |
14:06 | <dpkg> | debstats is managed by sussudio: http://debstats.dontexist.org/ (#debian freenode) and http://members.ziggo.nl/sussudio/debian-oftc.html (#debian OFTC) |
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14:06 | <valdyn> | err |
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14:06 | <kaddouri> | retrospectacus: again you saved me |
14:07 | <TCW> | valdyn, wrong kind of "stats" :) |
14:07 | <valdyn> | TCW: yea, theres one factoid though |
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14:07 | <valdyn> | TCW: .. with the right stats |
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14:08 | <ansgar> | TCW: The /srv partition with it on stabile.d.o takes 1.7 TB. I think this includes some other stuff as well. |
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14:11 | <TCW> | ansgar, du -sh path/to/debian/ ? :) |
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14:42 | <ansgar> | TCW: stabile% du -sh /srv/mirrors/debian-archive/debian -> 305G |
14:42 | <TCW> | ansgar, oops... that's not nearly as much as I expected |
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14:56 | <movl> | ansgar: do you use tcsh? |
14:57 | * | gdb sees "tcsh" and recoils in horror. |
14:57 | <movl> | :)) |
14:57 | <movl> | that was somewhat my point |
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14:57 | <movl> | as usually some csh derivative has the '%' prompt |
14:57 | <movl> | IIRC |
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15:05 | <mattwimpelberg> | Hey friends can anyone help me out with using SAMBA? |
15:06 | <movl> | !ask |
15:06 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
15:06 | <mattwimpelberg> | oops sorry |
15:07 | <mattwimpelberg> | I have a problem with CUPS Im running Debian version squeeze When I try to add a printer I get the following output print job failed |
15:07 | <mattwimpelberg> | I know thats rather vague |
15:07 | <mattwimpelberg> | Maybe theres a wiki page that could help me but I don't know where to start |
15:08 | <movl> | http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting |
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15:09 | <mattwimpelberg> | ok got it |
15:09 | <mattwimpelberg> | I guess my question would be how do I set up a SAMBA share with my windows pc in order to print from it via my linux machine |
15:10 | <movl> | the only thing I know about it is that's a pain in the ass |
15:10 | <mattwimpelberg> | :( |
15:10 | <movl> | but hopefully that wiki page will have more answers |
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15:11 | <mattwimpelberg> | thanks I appreciate it |
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15:11 | <movl> | I don't have experience with samba printing, but there are other ~500 people in here |
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15:20 | <ansgar> | movl: zsh |
15:21 | * | movl lets out a sigh of relief |
15:22 | <mattwimpelberg> | so I have the samba share ready now in the wiki it tells me to put a server name in the hostname of my printer |
15:23 | <movl> | ipp? |
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15:23 | <mattwimpelberg> | ipp? |
15:23 | <movl> | internet printing protocol |
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15:24 | <mattwimpelberg> | ill figure it out i think |
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15:25 | <mattwimpelberg> | smb://username:password@domain/server/printernamesmb://username |
15:26 | <mattwimpelberg> | smb://username:password@domain/server/printername |
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15:41 | <Jhapa> | alguem pode me passar um repositorio debian do brasil que funciona |
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15:42 | <mattwimpelberg> | jhapa:portugese? |
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15:42 | <vrkalak> | !portuguese |
15:42 | <dpkg> | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
15:42 | <mattwimpelberg> | smb://username:password@domain/server/printername |
15:42 | <Jhapa> | thanks |
15:42 | <mattwimpelberg> | whats the server supposed to be? |
15:42 | <mattwimpelberg> | I think I have the rest of it figured out |
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15:52 | <retrospectacus> | heh |
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16:24 | <haznet> | -NickServ- You must register a username with UserServ and log in before you can register your nickname |
16:24 | <haznet> | sorry ( - : |
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16:44 | <samantha-r-> | i'm trying to get three heads running in X. i've got two GTX460SEs. the main display works, but the desktop is off center -- what should be the left edge is 1/4 of the way from the right side. the left monitor is on. the right monitor remains dark. the mouse buttons don't work at all. X config here: http://pastebin.ca/2132956 suggestions welcome. |
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16:48 | <ipv6Chris> | Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me, I have done a dist-upgrade to wheezy on a Xen host, but booting into the 3.2 kernel breaks networking |
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16:48 | <ipv6Chris> | after dist-upgrade and a reboot it can't detect / assign a mac address for my virtual NIC |
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16:51 | <kop> | ipv6Chris: Since you're on wheezy you could try #debian-next, if no one answers here. See also the bug tracking system. |
16:51 | <ipv6Chris> | I'll give it a shot |
16:51 | <movl> | ipv6Chris: ifconfig -a? |
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16:54 | <ipv6Chris> | @movl https://imgur.com/840ij |
16:54 | <ipv6Chris> | sorry for the pic :p |
16:55 | <sney_> | what ethernet hardware does it emulate? |
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16:55 | <movl> | ipv6Chris: does it still work with the old kernel? |
16:55 | <ipv6Chris> | 1 sec I'm booting up the 2.6 kernel to check |
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16:56 | <ipv6Chris> | lspci says Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ |
16:56 | <yoshimi-pink> | im running a fresh install of debian on a compaq presario cq57 and my wifi isnt working, what steps should i take? |
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16:57 | <sney_> | yoshimi-pink, first determine what wifi card you have. lspci |grep -i net may tell you |
16:57 | <movl> | ipv6Chris: I'd say it's a bug |
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16:57 | <movl> | if the old kernel works, report a bug |
16:57 | <ipv6Chris> | networking works in the old kernel |
16:58 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok got the type of card should i just google that? |
16:58 | <ipv6Chris> | what kind of card is it yoshimi-pink? |
16:59 | <yoshimi-pink> | ipv6chris: RTL8188CE |
16:59 | <sney_> | you need firmware |
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17:00 | <sney_> | !rtl8192ce |
17:00 | <dpkg> | The Realtek RTL8188CE and RTL8192CE are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets (PCI IDs 10ec:8176, 10ec:8177, 10ec:8178, 10ec:8191). mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192ce) is available since Linux 2.6.38. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware> to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
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17:05 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok i installed firmware-realtek and it's still not working |
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17:08 | <yoshimi-pink> | anyone have any ideas? :( |
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17:10 | <ipv6Chris> | this may or may not be correct but won't harm, but I would try putting non-free in your sources.list |
17:10 | <ipv6Chris> | and then apt-get update & apt-get upgrade |
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17:12 | <SynrG> | yoshimi-pink: yeah, the factoid above sayd "is available since Linux 2.6.38". are you on squeeze? |
17:13 | <SynrG> | says* |
17:13 | <SynrG> | this means you need the backports kernel |
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17:14 | <yoshimi-pink> | im on squeeze |
17:15 | <SynrG> | oh, hmm. or maybe not. at least the wiki page linked above suggests otherwise |
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17:17 | <SynrG> | yoshimi-pink: oh, actually, the wiki page does indicate you need a later kernel for your specific device. you said rtl8188ce, right? |
17:17 | <SynrG> | did you read the wiki page? |
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17:17 | <yoshimi-pink> | yeah |
17:17 | <yoshimi-pink> | hold on i might have missed somthing |
17:17 | <SynrG> | rtl8192ce is in the kernel since 2.6.38 |
17:17 | <yoshimi-pink> | can you link me? |
17:17 | <SynrG> | 2.6.32 is squeeze's kernel |
17:18 | <yoshimi-pink> | im on squeeze so it hsouldnt be a problem right? |
17:18 | <SynrG> | http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
17:18 | <SynrG> | it *is* a problem |
17:18 | <SynrG> | 2.6.38 is more recent than 2.6.32 |
17:18 | <yoshimi-pink> | damn |
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17:18 | <SynrG> | so you need the backports kernel |
17:18 | <blarson> | !bpo |
17:19 | <dpkg> | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>. |
17:19 | <pixelpapst> | hi all |
17:19 | <Nelg|Ex> | hi |
17:19 | <pixelpapst> | getting a build failure whan playing with the new aptitude: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgtest" |
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17:19 | <yoshimi-pink> | how can i get this newest kernal? |
17:19 | <pixelpapst> | anybody have any gtest experience ? |
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17:20 | <SynrG> | yoshimi-pink: follow the instructions to use backports as linked in the factoid above |
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17:20 | <yoshimi-pink> | oh god >.< |
17:21 | <SynrG> | yoshimi-pink: this is not terribly hard ... |
17:21 | <Nelg|Ex> | im using lenny, do i need to update? |
17:21 | <yoshimi-pink> | I can probably do it but i have comprehension problems, i get overwelmed easy |
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17:22 | <SynrG> | well, points 2 and 3 on that page are the relevant bits. the rest, you should read as well, but it really isn't a big deal |
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17:22 | <SynrG> | as for the name of package to install, what kernel flavour do you run right now? amd64? |
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17:24 | <yoshimi-pink> | yeah |
17:24 | <SynrG> | aptitude install linux-image-amd64 |
17:24 | <SynrG> | but you have to add backports to your sources.list and apt-get update first, as per those instructions |
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17:25 | <yoshimi-pink> | is there a chance this could mess up my computer? |
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17:26 | <movl> | pixelpapst: I'd say update LDFLAGS |
17:26 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok i did the install for the linux-image |
17:27 | <yoshimi-pink> | should it work now? |
17:27 | <movl> | yoshimi-pink: reboot |
17:27 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok |
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17:28 | <pixelpapst> | movl, yeah, but the Makefile in question is created by automake, and i cannot find where that particular LDFLAG comes from... |
17:29 | <SynrG> | movl: crap, and i forgot to indicate -t squeeze-backports in my commandline ... mind if you correct him on my behalf upon his return? |
17:29 | <SynrG> | helping daughter with homework |
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17:29 | <movl> | SynrG: no problems |
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17:31 | <pixelpapst> | it'S in the line GMOCK_LDFLAGS - so maybe i'll dig into gmock automake snippets first... |
17:31 | <yoshimi-pink> | ok so i've rebooted witht he installed linux image, should i try to install the firmware again? |
17:31 | <pixelpapst> | already tried an autoreconf btw. |
17:31 | <movl> | yoshimi-pink: SynrG forgot to mention the -t squeeze-backports option to aptitude |
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17:32 | <retrospectacus> | yoshimi-pink: SynrG made a mistake talking to you, probably don't have the kernel you need, just yet :) |
17:32 | <yoshimi-pink> | i typed that in because i was also reading the webpage |
17:32 | <movl> | so the command becomes 'aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux image && reboot' |
17:32 | <retrospectacus> | yoshimi-pink: what does "uname -a" say? |
17:32 | <movl> | yoshimi-pink: uname -r ? |
17:33 | <yoshimi-pink> | Linux NewWorld 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Mar 22 17:26:33 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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17:33 | <movl> | try my command |
17:33 | <yoshimi-pink> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
17:33 | <movl> | aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
17:33 | <movl> | then reboot |
17:34 | <retrospectacus> | you need it to say 2.6.38 or higher |
17:34 | <yoshimi-pink> | that did nothing |
17:34 | <yoshimi-pink> | it says 0 upgraded 0 installed etc... |
17:35 | <yoshimi-pink> | should i add the version number i want to the command? |
17:35 | <movl> | yoshimi-pink: paste somewhere the output of ls -lh /boot/vmlinuz* |
17:35 | <yoshimi-pink> | did you mean to type linuz? |
17:36 | <movl> | type the command I give you and paste the results on paste.debian.org |
17:36 | <yoshimi-pink> | its kinda short is it ok to paste here? |
17:36 | <movl> | how many lines? |
17:36 | <retrospectacus> | yes linuz - z because of bzip compression |
17:36 | <yoshimi-pink> | one |
17:36 | <movl> | no matter then |
17:36 | <yoshimi-pink> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.4M Mar 22 17:28 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
17:37 | <movl> | do aptitude update |
17:37 | <movl> | and vm because of virtmem support |
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17:37 | <movl> | then try again aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
17:38 | <yoshimi-pink> | same result |
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17:38 | <movl> | ok |
17:39 | <movl> | try this: aptitude -t squeeze-backports search linux-image |
17:40 | <retrospectacus> | the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64" would be good too, in a pastebin |
17:40 | <Nelg|Ex> | in the repositories: do i put squeeze or stable? |
17:40 | <retrospectacus> | Nelg|Ex: recommended squeeze |
17:40 | <dvs> | Nelg|Ex: sqeeze |
17:40 | <Nelg|Ex> | k |
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17:40 | <yoshimi-pink> | http://pastebin.com/HmJ3HjFT |
17:40 | <yoshimi-pink> | the results |
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17:41 | <movl> | yoshimi-pink: aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
17:41 | <movl> | then reboot |
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17:43 | <yoshimi-pink> | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
17:43 | <yoshimi-pink> | linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64: Depends: linux-base (>= 3~) but 2.6.32-41squeeze2 is installed. |
17:43 | <yoshimi-pink> | it then proceeded to do nothing |
17:43 | <movl> | :( |
17:44 | <yoshimi-pink> | yup |
17:44 | <yoshimi-pink> | think I'll just go drown myself now |
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17:44 | <themill> | exactly what command produced that output? |
17:44 | <movl> | don't do that |
17:44 | <Nelg|Ex> | Heres my output: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.mepis.com mepis-8.0 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E6AD81A8B9FBE3CE |
17:44 | <yoshimi-pink> | gksu aptitude -t squeeze-packports install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
17:45 | <themill> | packports or backports? |
17:45 | <yoshimi-pink> | >:| |
17:45 | <themill> | Nelg|Ex: please ask #mepis on irc.freenode.net. |
17:46 | <yoshimi-pink> | corrected my typo and got the same result |
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17:46 | <themill> | dpkg: tell yoshimi-pink about bat |
17:47 | <themill> | yoshimi-pink: please pastebin the extra information that dpkg suggested |
17:47 | <chakka> | Anyone running Debian Squeeze with a 3.x kernel ? |
17:47 | <yoshimi-pink> | http://pastebin.com/vm0YTDvD |
17:47 | <retrospectacus> | chakka: from backports, yeah |
17:47 | <peterS> | chakka: lots of people do. get it from backports. |
17:48 | <chakka> | ok, will look in backportz thx! |
17:48 | <movl> | yoshimi-pink: when it asks if you accept the solution, say no |
17:48 | <movl> | then you will get the kernel and updated linux-base and initramfs to match |
17:48 | <movl> | :) |
17:48 | <yoshimi-pink> | it doesn't give me the chance to say yes or no |
17:48 | <themill> | (btw, you want linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 not .bpo.1 but that won't change the output) |
17:49 | <movl> | yes it does |
17:49 | <movl> | look at your paste |
17:49 | <yoshimi-pink> | yeah but it doesnt stop to let me answer |
17:49 | <themill> | unless gksu does something stupid with stdin |
17:49 | <yoshimi-pink> | just keeps going as if i said yes |
17:50 | <movl> | themill: yeah, I guess you're right |
17:50 | <movl> | by the way, why gksu? |
17:50 | <yoshimi-pink> | im not on the sudoers list apparently |
17:50 | <retrospectacus> | yoshimi-pink: just type "su" and then proceed with apt-get update && apt-get install ... |
17:50 | <retrospectacus> | !sudosmite yoshimi-pink |
17:50 | * | dpkg takes a lump of 2x4 to yoshimi-pink and yells "This is not #ubuntu!!!1!" |
17:50 | <movl> | aptitude |
17:50 | <yoshimi-pink> | xD |
17:50 | <movl> | not apt-get |
17:50 | <movl> | so |
17:51 | <movl> | go to a terminal |
17:51 | <movl> | type su - |
17:51 | <movl> | enter password |
17:51 | <themill> | yoshimi-pink: the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy linux-base initramfs-tools" would be interesting to see too |
17:51 | <movl> | type the aptitude command |
17:51 | <movl> | and be happy |
17:51 | <movl> | and f*** gksu |
17:52 | <yoshimi-pink> | it worked :'D |
17:52 | <yoshimi-pink> | im sorry im so fail guys T.T |
17:52 | <movl> | now reboot |
17:53 | <movl> | you're not |
17:53 | <movl> | it's just some *ahem* other distros suck |
17:53 | <yoshimi-pink> | lol |
17:53 | <yoshimi-pink> | i got tired of having my hand held |
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17:54 | <movl> | that's good |
17:54 | <SynrG> | today, hand-holding. tomorrow, holding others' hands. |
17:54 | <Nelg|Ex> | it says its ganna remove the xorg video. should i contiune? |
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17:54 | <retrospectacus> | Nelg|Ex: this is #debian. Go to your distro's channel |
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17:54 | <movl> | people still use mepis? |
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17:56 | <SynrG> | Nelg|Ex: wait, you're trying to "upgrade" Mepis to squeeze somehow? this is not a supported thing. if you want to install debian, do a fresh install. |
17:56 | <Nelg|Ex> | ah |
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17:56 | <godamite> | I don't care where this or where I should ask this I'm in big pile of trouble with 80 gigs of video work and I'm locked out of it. I am in deep doo doo. |
17:57 | <SynrG> | godamite: you may not care, but we do. do you run debian? |
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17:58 | <godamite> | PingyOS which goes debiant>ubuntu>mint>pinguyos so I'm guessing most of it is intact from debian. |
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17:58 | <retrospectacus> | bad guess |
17:58 | <SynrG> | !based on debian |
17:58 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
17:58 | <godamite> | Ah. |
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17:59 | <Nelg|Ex> | if i remove mepis repository, would that work? |
17:59 | <SynrG> | Nelg|Ex: no |
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17:59 | <SynrG> | Nelg|Ex: you're welcome to try, but i predict disaster |
18:00 | <SynrG> | Nelg|Ex: also, even if you seem to succeed, you'll likely have a litany of problems thereafter because you don't have pure debian but some bastard hybrid |
18:00 | <themill> | godamite: there's a #pinguyos on irc.freenode.net that might be of assistance |
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18:00 | <SynrG> | Nelg|Ex: and good luck getting support for that |
18:00 | <godamite> | right thanks tah! |
18:00 | <SynrG> | Nelg|Ex: no, the only *sane* thing to do is a fresh install of debian |
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18:02 | <SynrG> | so, best case: the illusion of success (which can be more dangerous than outright failure). worst case: complete and utter failure. |
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18:08 | <Nelg|Ex> | it said i have "held" broken packages. |
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18:09 | <retrospectacus> | Nelg|Ex: don't bother us with your distro-mixing problems |
18:09 | <ipv6Chris> | what is so wrong with doing a reinstall? |
18:09 | <movl> | it cannot possibly work |
18:10 | <themill> | next you'll tell us that you're also trying to crossgrade from i386 to amd64 at the same time for extra lulz |
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18:35 | <scorphus> | proftpd is a pain to install configure, isn't there a simple straight forward ftp server I can use? thanks for any tips |
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18:36 | <sney_> | scorphus, if you just want network file transfer and don't need *ftp* specifically, sftp is way easier |
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18:38 | <retrospectacus> | scorphus: ftp is the worst, use anything else. |
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18:39 | <sney_> | there are a couple bass ackwards web CMS packages that require ftp to access their own files |
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18:40 | <retrospectacus> | delete them :P |
18:41 | <scorphus> | ok, thanks =) |
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18:43 | <brandon2010> | ok i need help i have 2 computers one running backtrack and the other running av linux i have a wireless adapter on backtrack for internet and want to setup a network so the other one will connect to the internet without a router is this possible??? |
18:43 | <brando753> | anythings possible with linux :D |
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18:44 | <brandon2010> | does anybody know how to do it |
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18:45 | <sney_> | brandon2010, please go to the correct channel for the distribution you are using |
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18:46 | <brandon2010> | i thought i was cause one OS is debian |
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18:47 | <sney_> | backtrack is backtrack, av linux is av linux, neither one is debian if you didn't get your installer from debian.org |
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18:48 | <nevyn> | is it still debian if you add the d-m repos? |
18:48 | <brandon2010> | ok could you point me to where to look |
18:48 | <sney_> | brandon2010, start in #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net, I don't know where to look for av linux |
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18:48 | <chitchat> | Hi there. I've just upgraded from lenny to squeeze and it's resulted in a host of little problems that I'd like to ask for help to resolve (the right way). Also, it might be useful info to the maintainers. What is the right forum for this? Just ask individual questions here? |
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18:49 | <combinator> | Hi guys.I have problem with routing on my Debian server.Can I ask here? (sorry for my English) |
18:49 | <sney_> | chitchat, yeah, ask here |
18:49 | <retrospectacus> | chitchat: yes go ahead. One at a time please |
18:49 | <sney_> | combinator, you too, but there might be a specific channel for your language as well |
18:49 | <themill> | chitchat: let's solve one problem at a time |
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18:51 | <chitchat> | Ok. The first is that gdm could not find X11. Error: gdm: Xerver not found. It is looking in /usr/X1R6/bin/X. whereis X turns up /usr/bin/X |
18:52 | <chitchat> | Should I just symlink? |
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18:53 | <chitchat> | Sorry, typo. s/X1R6/X11R6/ |
18:54 | <sney_> | lenny shouldn't have any X11R6 leftovers I don' think |
18:55 | <sney_> | was this system upgraded from any other releases previously? |
18:55 | <chitchat> | sney: No, it was originally lenny |
18:55 | <brando753> | I am trying to get phpmyadmin to work on Debian wheezy though after I login i simply get Server error |
18:55 | <brando753> | The website encountered an error while retrieving http://127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/index.php. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly. |
18:56 | <chitchat> | sney: and I kept it reasonably upgraded with upgrade and dist-upgrade, until it reached EOL. And I also followed the upgrade instructions given earlier |
18:56 | <retrospectacus> | brando753: check the apache logs |
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18:57 | <sney_> | chitchat, with big stuff like X it sometimes helps to reinstall it entirely. it's a fast solution if you have the bandwidth to spare. |
18:57 | <chitchat> | sney: And I can also start X with startx (though there is still some weirdness there I need to resolve), so it seems like a gdm issue, which should have been upgraded |
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18:58 | <chitchat> | sney: Sure, the bandwidth doesn't worry me. Just all the dependencies and things that can break when you do so |
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18:58 | <chitchat> | sney: But I don't reckon the main problem is X11. It looks like gdm |
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19:00 | <chitchat> | Ok, looks like I can fix /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, but it should not have been broken in the first place |
19:00 | <sney_> | did you get any gdm.conf update warnings while dist-upgrading?4 |
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19:02 | <chitchat> | sney: I don't think so, but then, I wasn't staring at the screen while it did the dist-upgrade |
19:02 | <chitchat> | Is it looked somewhere for me to have a look? |
19:02 | <themill> | if you edited that file in the past, then it would not be updated in the dist-upgrade process |
19:02 | <TCW> | chitchat, ls -l /etgdm/gdm.conf* |
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19:03 | <brando753> | retrospectacus, http://pastebin.com/kWFYSnN1 |
19:03 | <sney_> | I was referring to the "this file is not the same as the one installed by the maintainer, do you want to replace it with the new one, y c n etc |
19:03 | <chitchat> | themill: Yes, but it should have stopped to ask me. And for those that it asked, I made a copy of the file and let it clobber. But it never asked about this file |
19:03 | <chitchat> | sney: Yes, and I let it |
19:03 | <chitchat> | (answered Y to all after making backups) |
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19:06 | <combinator> | sney: I use two Internet Providers on my server. I have two Public IP's on my eth0(WAN) and three subnets on my eth1(LAN).Now I use default GW from first provider and I want use second GW for specific subnet from my second provider. I try it by iptables,but I need set up route for the specific subnet,but I dont know how.If it is incorrect question, so I'm very sorry. |
19:06 | <chitchat> | Looks like I can easily fix it by editing the file, but I wanted to check to see what the right action is (for next time when it tries to upgrade). Should I just change it /usr/X11R6/bin/X -> /usr/bin/X11/X or symlink /usr/bin/X11 to /usr/X11R6/bin? |
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19:07 | <themill> | chitchat: it should be pointing to /usr/bin/X |
19:08 | <retrospectacus> | brando753: what a mess. Dunno how you managed that. Where did "ming.ini" come from? |
19:08 | <canaima> | alejandro |
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19:09 | <chitchat> | themill: Thanks. Weird that it would not update this |
19:09 | <brando753> | retrospectacus, its a brand new install |
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19:10 | <retrospectacus> | brando753: false. Debian does not have any /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/ming.ini |
19:11 | <themill> | (actually, php5-ming ships that file) |
19:11 | <brando753> | well I installed my standard php , apache, and mysql files |
19:11 | <daniel_> | alguem escreve em portugues |
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19:11 | <themill> | !ubuntu-br daniel_ |
19:11 | <dpkg> | daniel_: Este canal e para suportar o Debian em Ingles. Por favor, /server irc.freenode.net depois /join #ubuntu-br. |
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19:12 | <retrospectacus> | weird. apt-file didn't find it |
19:12 | <themill> | retrospectacus: remember that php has symlinked config directories |
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19:14 | <themill> | That long list of segfaults makes me wonder if this is the php5.4 transition at work |
19:14 | <retrospectacus> | ahh ok I see it |
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19:15 | <brando753> | well this is wheezy and not stable, so not sure if thats part of it.... |
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19:16 | <themill> | brando753: you should try unloading all php modules until you get a non-segfaulting server and then add them in until you work out what module is causing that. Checking the bts would also be smart. |
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19:19 | <brando753> | I see I just enabled them all so disable all modules then enable one at a time |
19:20 | <pixelpapst> | movl, i tried to dig a bit deeper for the aptitude build, but gtest and gmock linking is a bit of a mess overall |
19:20 | <pixelpapst> | for now, I just built it with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck |
19:20 | <pixelpapst> | if and when i have time to dig further, i'll write an email to the aptitude list |
19:20 | <pixelpapst> | thanks for your help so far |
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20:21 | <alvaro> | hi all |
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21:33 | <Sannin> | !l |
21:33 | <dpkg> | i heard l is the english version of the greek letter lambda, as used by Alonzo Church in creating his lambda calculus. |
21:36 | <Sannin> | !m |
21:36 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, m is (lower case) a metric thousandth or (upper case) a metric million or (greek) a metric millionth, or compile as a module in a kernel configuration. And also James Bond's boss. MUMPS, A programming language with extensive tools for the support of database management systems. |
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21:37 | <ninkotech> | !f |
21:37 | <dpkg> | well, f is a letter of the alphabet, or m*a |
21:37 | <ninkotech> | sure |
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22:52 | <jazzmans> | Hi all, can anyone assist me getting an Audigy pci sound card running under debian sid amd64? I had an audigy 2 running an hour ago, but can't seem to get the audigy to output anything. |
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23:03 | <edilson> | helo |
23:03 | <edilson> | my name is Edilson |
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23:03 | <edilson> | Brazil? |
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23:04 | <edilson> | Tem alguem do brasil? |
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23:15 | <Soleman> | has anyone heard of jstor as software raid package? |
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23:35 | <samantha--> | so i'm still trying to get three heads running. i have two GTX460SEs with two monitors on one, and one on the other. nvidia-xconfig generated a config file that makes the two monitors on the SECONDARY card work properly, but the single monitor on the primary card doesn't work at all. suggestions welcome? |
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