--- | Log | opened Thu Mar 29 00:00:15 2012 |
--- | Day | changed Thu Mar 29 2012 |
00:00 | <scientes> | and i can ping that server, on any of the 5 addresses |
00:00 | <nsadmin> | so your mask is 255,255,255,248? |
00:00 | <scientes> | well ip addr show, shows /26 for the singleton, and /24 for the 4 other ones |
00:00 | <scientes> | which seems bogus |
00:01 | <scientes> | the host said it was all statically routed, and even though i send, from .194=me to .193=gateway |
00:01 | <scientes> | supposedly that .193 doesn't exist? by what i can tell of what they tell me |
00:02 | <nsadmin> | /26?? that's a lot more than 5 IPs |
00:02 | <scientes> | yeah, it doesn't seem right |
00:02 | <nsadmin> | should be /29 |
00:02 | <scientes> | agreed |
00:02 | <scientes> | i've really got a /30 and a /32 |
00:03 | <scientes> | from what i've been told |
00:03 | <nsadmin> | ugh :) wasteful :) |
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00:03 | <scientes> | but i can ping other hosts on the /24 |
00:03 | <scientes> | which makes me more confused |
00:04 | <nsadmin> | well let's hold off on what this /24 is |
00:04 | <scientes> | basic thing is that my gateway isn't on my subnety |
00:05 | <scientes> | so i've removed on of the /30 addresses from the host |
00:05 | <scientes> | now what do i do on the guest, that is bridged to the same interface? |
00:05 | <nsadmin> | sec. |
00:09 | <nsadmin> | ok, what's one IP on the subnet? |
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00:13 | <nsadmin> | a /32 is one IP, a /30 is four addresses of which two are special and cannot be used |
00:14 | <nsadmin> | so the max you can have from a /30 and a /32 is 3 |
00:16 | <scientes> | of i have 5 real addresses |
00:17 | <scientes> | 4 which are right next to each other |
00:17 | <scientes> | and 1 , the "master", which is on a completely differn't subnet |
00:17 | <nsadmin> | that's just weird :) |
00:18 | <scientes> | i filed a ticket with the host and they said i could do it with static routes, but they wouldn't give me the ip commands to do it |
00:18 | <scientes> | they just said i should route through the host, they didn't seem to understand the entire concept of "bridging" |
00:19 | <scientes> | but i certainly could do it another way, im using kvm with virt-manager |
00:19 | <scientes> | and the macvtun bridging driver |
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00:20 | <mib_83aygf> | hi all |
00:20 | <scientes> | mib_83aygf, mibbet eh? |
00:21 | <mib_83aygf> | why you say that? |
00:21 | <scientes> | oh i guess not |
00:21 | <scientes> | ur nick just seems like a auto-enumerated mibbit derivitive to me |
00:22 | <mib_83aygf> | maybe it might be |
00:22 | <scientes> | anyways, lets stay on topic |
00:22 | <mib_83aygf> | ok |
00:23 | <scientes> | nsadmin, so, any idea? |
00:23 | <mib_83aygf> | so i just installed Debian today seems flawless compared to other distros |
00:23 | <scientes> | i tried to ip add foo.foo/24 dev eth1 |
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00:23 | <scientes> | ip route add blerg/32 dev eth1 |
00:23 | <scientes> | ip route add default blerg-1/32 dev eth1 |
00:23 | <scientes> | didn't work |
00:23 | <mib_83aygf> | what are you trying to do? |
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00:24 | <scientes> | get routing on a bridged virtual machine to work |
00:24 | <scientes> | when the host has wierd static addresses setup |
00:24 | <nsadmin> | scientes, I never learned to do static routing this way... maybe you have to just establish 5 routes |
00:24 | <mib_83aygf> | oh yes my favorite im good at solving those |
00:24 | <mib_83aygf> | so what is your set up so far? |
00:25 | <nsadmin> | hmm :) well there ya go then ;) |
00:25 | <scientes> | nsadmin, thats ok, but what is the minimal to get something going |
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00:25 | <scientes> | mib_83aygf, i removed one of the 4 sequential ip's from the host |
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00:26 | <mib_83aygf> | ok what Operating systems you using? |
00:26 | <scientes> | hostL centos 6.2 |
00:26 | <mib_83aygf> | and what Vmware or Vbox? |
00:26 | <scientes> | guest debian squeeze |
00:26 | <scientes> | kvm |
00:26 | <scientes> | + virt-manager |
00:26 | <scientes> | using macvtap bridging |
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00:27 | <mib_83aygf> | did you bridge the Virtual machine? |
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00:27 | <scientes> | yeah, macvtap to the external interface of the host |
00:27 | <mib_83aygf> | ok what about the ips what are you using? |
00:28 | <scientes> | i have, in interfaces(5) |
00:28 | <mib_83aygf> | what are the ip's? |
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00:28 | <scientes> | addr/24, then up ip r add host-master-1 dev eth1; up ip r add default via same-host-master-1 |
00:28 | <scientes> | well, they are globally routed addressesm |
00:28 | <scientes> | and i'm trying to maintain a modicum of privacy |
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00:29 | <mib_83aygf> | oh i see |
00:29 | <scientes> | its two sets |
00:29 | <scientes> | 4 sequential, the host has them as /24 and ping to other /24 hosts works |
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00:30 | <scientes> | then 1 "master" set as /26, with a default gateway of master-1/26 |
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00:30 | <mib_83aygf> | is there a switch involved? |
00:30 | <scientes> | i removed one of the 4 sequential from the host, with ip addr del foo/24 dev eth1 |
00:31 | <scientes> | its dedicated hosting, I have very little idea about hardware outside my box |
00:31 | <scientes> | but the host told me its static routing |
00:32 | <mib_83aygf> | can the host ping you? |
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00:34 | <scientes> | no |
00:35 | <mib_83aygf> | are you one the same domain at least? |
00:36 | <scientes> | no, the two subnets are even on differn't /8's |
00:36 | <scientes> | but i was pinging from the non-master |
00:37 | <scientes> | when i set it to NAT it worked :) |
00:38 | <scientes> | it also has Source mode: VEPA |
00:38 | <scientes> | dont know what that means |
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00:39 | <mib_83aygf> | i think it means some sort of encrypted private address or something |
00:39 | <scientes> | well, i read some stuff on it, but it didn't really make much sense |
00:40 | <mib_83aygf> | NAT'ing is Network Address translation, i dont know what the other means |
00:40 | <sney_> | oops, I guess server left |
00:41 | <scientes> | ok, i siwtched to Source mode: Bridge |
00:41 | <scientes> | still, ping isn't working |
00:41 | <scientes> | yeah NAT works but it isn't at all what i want |
00:41 | <scientes> | i want globally addressable |
00:41 | <scientes> | cause i have the addresses for that |
00:42 | <scientes> | does openvz or vserver work with virt-manager? |
00:42 | <mib_83aygf> | well for global i think you need a proxy server for multiple sub nets. |
00:43 | <scientes> | someone in this channel a week or so ago told me i could have a gatway that wan't on the same subnet |
00:44 | <mib_83aygf> | yeah gateway = router and u can set your router to the same sub net... |
00:44 | <nsadmin> | these things aren't true subnets |
00:44 | <scientes> | cause all 5 ips are curently globally routable |
00:44 | <scientes> | nsadmin, well, do you know how i can do it? |
00:46 | <nsadmin> | if they were true subnets, maybe |
00:46 | <mib_83aygf> | nsadmin what do you mean true sub nets? |
00:49 | <nsadmin> | a subnet has a mask, a broadcast address and a net address.... and the only way to get out that I know of is to route the subnet thru a gateway on the same net |
00:50 | <mib_83aygf> | or a switch! |
00:51 | <mib_83aygf> | ^ |
00:51 | <nsadmin> | if the actual subnet is a /26, then there would be in that subnet the first and last addresses being the net and bcast, and one other address in this subnet to route |
00:51 | <mib_83aygf> | unless the ip was on the same routing table then it could talk to each other^ |
00:53 | <nsadmin> | I was going to make a sentende that starte "I would guess ..." but I definitely don;t have en enough info |
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00:55 | <mib_83aygf> | i know you can stack multiple ips on the same network card and maybe u can be in 2 subnets at the same time i dont know i never tried. |
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01:28 | <benjr__> | how do i find out a package name? im looking for pwmcontrol but apt-get find nothing under that name |
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01:30 | <roughnecks> | benjr__: do you mean pwmconfig? If yes, it's in fancontrol |
01:31 | <roughnecks> | you can do an "apt-file search keyword", after installing apt-file and updating it |
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01:32 | <benjr__> | darn "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" |
01:32 | <benjr__> | roughnecks, thanks, ill do that |
01:32 | <roughnecks> | you're welcome |
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02:48 | <haotian> | what web-server do you recommend me to use ? |
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02:50 | <ompaul> | haotian: the usual answer is apache2 and here's the rub you didn't say what you wanted to do |
02:50 | <ompaul> | haotian: is it have 10 static pages like a phone book in an office generated from some central spreadsheet |
02:50 | <ompaul> | or something else |
02:52 | <haotian> | ompaul :: it will be more likely my playground, no business, more play (: |
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02:53 | <ompaul> | then most certainly as more stuff is built to run against apache2 |
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02:53 | <haotian> | Alright |
02:53 | <ompaul> | haotian: if you are exposing it to the internet and plan to have scripts working - mind the security notices and keep yourself up to date |
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02:54 | <ompaul> | build for updating not for the version you have |
02:54 | <haotian> | Btw, during the debian install I remember I picked up, webserver, ftp, ssh |
02:54 | <haotian> | ssh is working right now I tested. |
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02:59 | <nevyn> | bleh tasksel eww.. |
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03:43 | <vladuke> | haotian: apach2, nginx, lighttpd. |
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03:47 | <qboster> | hi guys, is that have some utilities that setup cache of debian packages to a mirror with mirror hierarchy? |
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03:49 | <kazuma> | qboster: you mean like a cache across a local network? |
03:50 | <kazuma> | qboster: apt-cacher-ng is great |
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03:54 | <amoe> | Does squeeze use /dev/sdX for IDE devices as well rather than /dev/hdX? (don't have an IDE machine around to test) |
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03:58 | <it9001> | Hey |
03:59 | <kazuma> | amoe: it labels my ide as sdb in virtualbox, but i also have no real hardware to test |
03:59 | <it9001> | how do i set my wifi up in debian, i have installed the drivers i need and i have a network manager, ethernet is working and i selected it as primary connection in the installer |
03:59 | <amoe> | kazuma, thanks |
04:00 | <it9001> | selected ethernet* |
04:01 | <it9001> | dpkg -i fish |
04:01 | <dpkg> | package fish is already installed |
04:01 | <it9001> | >_> |
04:01 | <it9001> | dpkg -i crazy |
04:01 | <dpkg> | package crazy is already installed |
04:01 | <qboster> | kazuma, oh no, you mistake my mean, I want to create a mirror that must have mirror hierarchy. I don't know which utilities is good |
04:02 | <it9001> | sudo apt-get install qboster |
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04:03 | <kazuma> | it9001: are you using cli or a desktop environment, it should be simple to set it up using something like network-manager-gnome, in rare cases you might have to open less /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, and change managed=false to managed=true |
04:03 | <it9001> | Im in the gnome one, the default |
04:03 | <it9001> | im using a network manager |
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04:03 | <kazuma> | what exactly is 'not working'? |
04:04 | <it9001> | Where its supposed to have networks |
04:04 | <it9001> | it just says |
04:04 | <it9001> | disconnected |
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04:05 | <kazuma> | if this is gnome2 at least right click the applet and ensure wifi is enabled, if gnome 3 might need to go into the settings for it, though this might also be a sign the driver is not functioning properly |
04:05 | <it9001> | wireless: 14e4:4315 thats from lspci -nn |
04:05 | <it9001> | and wireless is enabled |
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04:06 | <it9001> | its made Auto eth0 default if thats anything to do with it |
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04:08 | <gnugr> | it9001: cat /etc/network/interfaces to check |
04:08 | <kazuma> | it9001 what is the output of: uname -r |
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04:08 | <it9001> | i'll do that now |
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04:08 | <it9001> | 2.6.32-5-686 |
04:08 | <it9001> | im under gnome 2 |
04:09 | <it9001> | aswell |
04:09 | <kazuma> | the b43 driver site says it is supported under linux 2.6.33+ debian stable uses 2.6.32, you might want to install the kernel from backports |
04:09 | <it9001> | so i need to update the kernal for the driver to work |
04:09 | <it9001> | Okay. |
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04:10 | <it9001> | I'm still a bit of a debian newbie... how can i update the kernal in debian? |
04:10 | <kazuma> | it9001: http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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04:11 | <EmleyMoor> | There's a bug in psi and psi-plus affecting handling of JIDs with \ in - leaving me to use pidgin which has oddities of its own. I would like to get psi fixed but I have no idea how to track the problem down... |
04:11 | <it9001> | is there a way of adding the source for backports via terminal? |
04:11 | <EmleyMoor> | I've tried their MUC but it's next to no help |
04:11 | <EmleyMoor> | it9001: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
04:11 | <kazuma> | it9001: yes, run (as root) nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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04:12 | <kazuma> | the line is: deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
04:12 | <it9001> | Thanks kazuma |
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04:13 | <it9001> | got it :3 |
04:13 | <kazuma> | then refresh the sources with: apt-get update finally install the kernel using: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae |
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04:14 | <it9001> | 3.2 kernal in debian? |
04:14 | <it9001> | debian with no stability |
04:14 | <it9001> | *cries* |
04:14 | <it9001> | xD |
04:14 | <kazuma> | it9001: :) |
04:15 | <EmleyMoor> | It seems stable enough to me |
04:15 | <it9001> | you sure? :( |
04:15 | <kazuma> | i run everything except my server on 3.2 |
04:15 | <it9001> | i like my old kernal :'( |
04:16 | <it9001> | lmao how do i save the modifications now... |
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04:16 | <EmleyMoor> | it9001: Which editor are you using? |
04:16 | <it9001> | nano |
04:16 | <it9001> | terminal |
04:16 | <kazuma> | ctrl+x then y |
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04:19 | <it9001> | saved |
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04:21 | <it9001> | grrr |
04:21 | <it9001> | it keeps asking for the flipping cd |
04:21 | <it9001> | and i use a usb... |
04:21 | <EmleyMoor> | You need to remove references to it from sources.list |
04:21 | <kazuma> | it9001: just delete the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
04:22 | <kazuma> | aww ninja'd :D |
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04:24 | <it9001> | done |
04:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there any way I can recompile a package so that it outputs its source lines as it runs, to a file? Obviously I'd only want to do that "short term" |
04:25 | <kazuma> | it9001: i should note, im not sure if this device needs firmware or not, if the new kernel doesnt fix this, well have to sort out broadcom firmware which hopefully is easy |
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04:27 | <it9001> | omg... removing that cd source has screwed it, now it keeps saying could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open resource temperarily unavailible, unable to lock the administration directory is another process using it.... |
04:27 | <kazuma> | it9001: no, that just means another program is using apt database |
04:28 | <it9001> | it shoulden't be.... |
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04:28 | <it9001> | ima log out and in |
04:28 | <haotian> | what ftp server comes installed by default with debian, when I select 'ftp server' component during debian installation. |
04:28 | <it9001> | actually wait.. |
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04:29 | <gnugr> | haotian:skip this option |
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04:34 | <inoteska> | hi |
04:34 | <haotian> | hi |
04:35 | <inoteska> | I am from Europe, and you ? |
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04:39 | <EmleyMoor> | psi's MUC's attitude to the probllem is that they will accept a patch - but how can I patch code if I can't identify where the problem is? |
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04:40 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: run it in a debugger, ltrace can also help identify rough place where to start looking |
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04:41 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: Hmmm... might be best off with new Jabber and MSN accounts for testing... |
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04:42 | <haotian> | what ftp server comes installed by default with debian, when I select 'ftp server' component during debian installation ? |
04:42 | <EmleyMoor> | Are you sure you want that option? |
04:43 | <kazuma> | haotian: if the system is installed, try: tasksel --task-packages web-server |
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04:43 | <kazuma> | web-server oops |
04:43 | <kazuma> | haotian: its file-server |
04:43 | <jm_> | indeed, look at task files |
04:43 | <kazuma> | forgot to fix before i pasted |
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04:51 | <it9000> | ok back |
04:51 | <it9000> | not much difference... |
04:51 | <it9000> | maybe i need to reboot again |
04:51 | <it9000> | i've installed the new update..... |
04:52 | <bubusan> | /budus macro setup |
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04:53 | <it9000> | ? |
04:53 | <haotian> | kazuma :: http://ideone.com/IRsmp |
04:53 | <EmleyMoor> | What'- a good debugger I could run a prespackaged program in to trace which part contains a bug I know to exist |
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04:54 | <SynrG> | haotian: good, so by now you've discovered the answer is "there isn't one" and this is because ftp is an insecure protocol. a file-server system typically needs nfs and/or samba. |
04:54 | <haotian> | yeah I was going to uninstall it |
04:54 | <haotian> | Because I'm pretty sure I choosed ftp server :( , during debian install |
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04:54 | <haotian> | and sure ? there isn't any installed ? |
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04:55 | <haotian> | I choosed, web-server, sql server, ssh, file server during debian install |
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04:56 | <SynrG> | haotian: if you're still not satisfied, prove to yourself there is none running with 'netstat -tl' |
04:56 | <kazuma> | it9000: so you are on the new kernel and the device is still not functional? |
04:57 | <SynrG> | haotian: and list the status of any packages with 'ftp' in the name with "dpkg -l '*ftp*'" and notice there are no servers among those, only clients |
04:58 | * | EmleyMoor is waiting for his new MSN account to come through... |
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04:59 | <haotian> | SynrG :: btw, I'm doing this commands through ssh connection from another machine, is that okay ? |
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04:59 | <SynrG> | haotian: certainly. they are both command-line utilities |
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05:00 | <EmleyMoor> | BTW, is there any way to delete an ICQ account? |
05:00 | <haotian> | give it to me if it is 1337 (: |
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05:03 | <SynrG> | EmleyMoor: google that question. apparently the answer is "no, you can only remove your account details" |
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05:03 | <haotian> | SynrG :: http://ideone.com/NzgMg |
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05:04 | <SynrG> | haotian: satisfied? |
05:04 | <haotian> | ii ftp |
05:04 | <haotian> | Unknown/Install |
05:04 | <haotian> | doesn't it mean ftp is installed ? |
05:04 | <SynrG> | 05:57 < SynrG> haotian: and list the status of any packages with 'ftp' in the name with "dpkg -l '*ftp*'" and |
05:04 | <SynrG> | notice there are no servers among those, only clients |
05:05 | <haotian> | aah |
05:05 | <haotian> | good |
05:05 | <SynrG> | (did you read the package description beside it?) |
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05:05 | <haotian> | (: |
05:05 | <haotian> | Awesome nice |
05:05 | <SynrG> | also, did you execute and understand the output of the netstat command? |
05:05 | <SynrG> | that lists all listening tcp ports |
05:06 | <haotian> | yes and no |
05:06 | <haotian> | I executed, however didn't quite understand |
05:06 | <SynrG> | note the conspicuous absence of ftp |
05:06 | * | haotian prepares the paste of netstat |
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05:06 | <haotian> | yeah I noticed there was no ftp port |
05:06 | <haotian> | anyway great I'm satisfied |
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05:07 | <it9000> | *sighs* i've got no chance.... |
05:08 | <haotian> | tcp 0 0 *:swat *:* LISTEN |
05:08 | <haotian> | swat indicates ? |
05:09 | <EmleyMoor> | gdb on psi as it stands is not very useful. Anything I can do to make it more so? |
05:09 | <kazuma> | it9000: sorry i missed you before, the device just might require firmware |
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05:10 | <it9000> | I've tried alot of stuff :/ |
05:10 | <kazuma> | it9000: apt-get install firmware-b43-installer |
05:11 | <kazuma> | if the device can work with linux, it can work with debian |
05:11 | <kazuma> | :) |
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05:11 | <haotian> | SynrG :: and what do you call it ? 'Luck' or whatever... That I choosed 'file server' entry and it didnt install the ftp server |
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05:13 | <kazuma> | it9000: this might do it, because it lists the "BCM4312" right in the package description |
05:13 | <it9000> | Not supported low poer chip with PCI id 14e4:4315! aborting dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure): sub process installer post-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports |
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05:13 | <it9000> | power* |
05:14 | <EmleyMoor> | haotian: A "file server" need not mean FTP... |
05:14 | <kazuma> | :( |
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05:14 | <kazuma> | it mentions the model though :( |
05:14 | <it9000> | heres the whole log |
05:14 | <it9000> | root@DH9001:/home/will# apt-get install firmware-b43-installer |
05:14 | <it9000> | Reading package lists... Done |
05:14 | <it9000> | Building dependency tree |
05:14 | <it9000> | Reading state information... Done |
05:14 | <it9000> | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
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05:14 | <kazuma> | :D |
05:14 | <haotian> | lol |
05:15 | <kazuma> | i hope i can help the poor guy, im not really an expert on firmware |
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05:15 | <jm_> | judd pciid 14e4:4315 |
05:15 | <judd> | [14e4:4315] is 'BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4315 http://wiki.debian.org/wl and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
05:15 | <haotian> | EmleyMoor :: what did it install ? how can I learn |
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05:15 | <it9001> | oh well |
05:15 | <it9001> | lmao, i got kicked... |
05:15 | <kazuma> | all signs point to the chip being supported it9001 |
05:16 | <kazuma> | im not sure whats up |
05:16 | <it9001> | im using a hp mini 1100-110 |
05:16 | <it9001> | it works with ubuntu with wifi, and thats debian based... |
05:16 | <jm_> | it9001: see http://wiki.debian.org/wl |
05:16 | <it9001> | thats EXACTLY what i tried |
05:17 | <EmleyMoor> | haotian: Do tasksel --task-packages file-server to see |
05:17 | <it9001> | but it came up with this stuff about kernal headers |
05:18 | <EmleyMoor> | it9001: You may need to install the appropriate linux-headers from backports too |
05:18 | <it9001> | i know what to do.... |
05:18 | <it9001> | I'll boot it up with the old kernal... |
05:18 | <kazuma> | it9001: you might get to use .32 if you want after all, to install headers for the currently running headers just run: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
05:18 | <kazuma> | kernel* |
05:18 | <it9001> | Alright, well i have an idea |
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05:19 | <kazuma> | wifi firmware is easier than getting radeon working though :P |
05:19 | <SynrG> | haotian: no, i call it good design, not luck |
05:20 | <EmleyMoor> | Anything I can do to get more information than gdb gives when I'm running psi? |
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05:20 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: what more information? |
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05:20 | <SynrG> | haotian: as for swat, that's samba's management port. i believe if you don't use it, you can configure to turn it off |
05:21 | <it9001> | okay im running under the old kernal now |
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05:21 | <SynrG> | haotian: or if you don't need samba at all, you can remove it |
05:21 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: Like which part of the code is actually running when the mistake is made |
05:21 | <jm_> | nothing on that page mentions installing firmware-b43-installer so I fail to see how you followed the page |
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05:22 | <SynrG> | haotian: as you can see, the netstat results are far more useful. just looking for characters in package names is not a reliable way to tell if a service is installed or not in general. |
05:22 | <kazuma> | that was my bad actually |
05:22 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: you'll need to compile it with -g, and while at it, I recommend removing -O flags too |
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05:22 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: OK - is there an easy way to recompile it so? |
05:23 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: ohh and once you have a rough idea where in the code it is, set a break point there and then you'll be able to step into it and examine things |
05:23 | <it9001> | woo |
05:23 | <it9001> | its configuring correctly |
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05:23 | <it9001> | when running under a different kernal version |
05:23 | <it9001> | >:3 |
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05:23 | <SynrG> | haotian: to see what names of ports belong to which port#s, see /etc/services, by the way |
05:23 | <haotian> | much appreciated |
05:24 | <it9001> | muhahahahaha |
05:24 | <it9001> | ahahahahaha |
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05:24 | * | haotian attempts a wololoo on it9001 |
05:25 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: if it can run from a source try and uses configure: ./configure CFLAGS="-g" or so, you can also call make CFLAGS=foo |
05:25 | <jm_> | off now for a while |
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05:26 | <EmleyMoor> | No easy way to recompile from the Debian package source? |
05:27 | <it9001> | tried wl properly, its still not working....... |
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05:29 | <kazuma> | it9001 you might need to reboot or restart network manager, try (as root): /etc/init.d/network-manager restart |
05:29 | <it9001> | its not even detecting the wifi card with iwconfig.. |
05:30 | <kazuma> | hrm.. :( |
05:30 | <huzar> | Debian 6, Enable hibernation and then how to enable the laptop I have no voice |
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05:31 | <it9001> | i have a wifi usb at home |
05:31 | <it9001> | just gonna have to wait a few days before i get my wifi thats all :P |
05:32 | <SynrG> | broadcom grief, hm? don't say i didn't warn you :p |
05:32 | <kazuma> | it9001: did the module wl load sucessfully in step 7? |
05:32 | <it9001> | it didn't say |
05:32 | <kazuma> | that means it did |
05:32 | <it9001> | it did nothing |
05:32 | <it9001> | i just saw the command |
05:32 | <it9001> | but the card not being supported error came again |
05:32 | <it9001> | so... |
05:32 | <SynrG> | it9001: it did something. it's just not chatty unless something goes wrong. |
05:32 | <kazuma> | did you restart network manager like i mentioned? |
05:33 | <it9001> | dont need to |
05:33 | <it9001> | iwconfig said it all |
05:33 | <it9001> | -_- |
05:33 | <kazuma> | it loaded the module just fine |
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05:33 | <it9001> | wait a sec... |
05:33 | <it9001> | eth1 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:"" |
05:33 | <it9001> | Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated |
05:33 | <it9001> | Bit Rate:54 Mb/s Tx-Power:24 dBm |
05:33 | <it9001> | Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off |
05:33 | <it9001> | Encryption key:off |
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05:34 | <kazuma> | sigh... |
05:34 | <Aurelien> | :) |
05:34 | <SynrG> | it never gets old |
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05:34 | <it9001> | oh well |
05:34 | <it9001> | i tried to copy/pase the output... |
05:34 | <SynrG> | !paste |
05:34 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
05:34 | <kazuma> | you need to use pastebin or similar |
05:35 | <it9001> | i think its detecting the wifi card |
05:35 | <it9001> | but as eth1 |
05:35 | <SynrG> | which is normal for some drivers |
05:35 | <it9001> | how can i restart the network manager then.. |
05:35 | <SynrG> | 06:29 < kazuma> it9001 you might need to reboot or restart network manager, try (as root): |
05:35 | <SynrG> | /etc/init.d/network-manager restart |
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05:36 | <it9001> | done |
05:36 | <it9001> | wifi still not working |
05:36 | <it9001> | i'll reboot. |
05:36 | <kazuma> | broadcom is annoying it seems |
05:36 | <it9001> | actually before i do that |
05:36 | <it9001> | that* |
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05:36 | <SynrG> | rebooting is not magic. one possibility is network-manager still thinks you're using the old devicename |
05:37 | <SynrG> | and only reconfiguration would fix that |
05:37 | <SynrG> | check to see if a new interface has appeared in the nm interface |
05:37 | <SynrG> | in the nm gui i mean |
05:37 | <gnugr> | it9001: check also for wireless-tools and firmware-iwlwifi |
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05:38 | <it9001> | im installing other wifi programs |
05:38 | <kazuma> | what would show devices askking for firmware, would: dmesg | grep firmware work? |
05:39 | <it9001> | okay |
05:39 | <it9001> | wifi radar detects my wifi card |
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05:40 | <it9001> | too bad my wifi card detects nothing.... |
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05:40 | <it9001> | gtg |
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05:41 | <kazuma> | i hope the fellow sorts it out, sounds like a hassle |
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05:46 | <SynrG> | installing random other wifi managers is a losing strategy though :/ |
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05:47 | <huzar> | join #debian-pl |
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05:51 | <diego> | hola |
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05:52 | <diego> | heeyyy |
05:52 | <diego> | hay alguien |
05:52 | <diego> | español |
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05:53 | <diego> | no hay nadie |
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05:54 | <EmleyMoor> | !es |
05:54 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
05:54 | <EmleyMoor> | Damn, missed |
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05:56 | <deusexmachina> | /join #debian-es |
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05:58 | <EmleyMoor> | deusexmachina: Without a space at the beginnig |
05:58 | <EmleyMoor> | beginning |
05:59 | <deusexmachina> | yup. I know... It was aquick copy/paste :P |
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05:59 | <deusexmachina> | sorry for the spam :D |
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06:05 | <EmleyMoor> | psi's configure has a --debug option - I'm trying that to see if it helps me |
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06:14 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a way to rebuild a Debian package with a new option to the configure script? |
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06:18 | <DragonDon> | Greetings all |
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06:22 | <SynrG> | !tell EmleyMoor about package recompile |
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06:24 | * | EmleyMoor had just found where the configure options are obtained... thanks |
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06:31 | <Martian67> | wooo who drepper is out |
06:31 | <Martian67> | good fucking riddance |
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06:39 | <darsie> | no response ... huh. Ok, I'll just restart X ... |
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06:41 | <EmleyMoor> | How can I add a compiler option to the rebuild of a Debian package? |
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06:43 | <SynrG> | !tell EmleyMoor about debian/rules |
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06:43 | <SynrG> | (that was linked from the previous factoid ... thought you'd follow it ...) |
06:43 | <EmleyMoor> | SynrG: That only tells me what file to do it in |
06:44 | <SynrG> | because there are many different package build systems, including 'roll your own' i cannot say more than generalizations. you need to read and understand the packaging. |
06:44 | <EmleyMoor> | It's psi I'm rebuilding |
06:45 | <SynrG> | modern debian/rules files may be very small. you need to understand if it uses debhelper, cdbs or whatever, and know where to add options for whichever build system is used. teaching packaging is beyond the scope of this channel and is covered in #debian-mentors |
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06:46 | <EmleyMoor> | The means I just tried - appending CFLAGS=-g to the $(MAKE), was considered an unrepresentable change |
06:46 | <SynrG> | older debian/rules files were much more verbose, which meant that you could find the actual 'configure' command there and edit its options. the factoid glosses over this point. |
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06:47 | <EmleyMoor> | The configure command will not help - that has already been ascertained |
06:47 | <EmleyMoor> | It does use debhelper |
06:47 | <themill> | EmleyMoor: can you pastebin the debian/rules in question? |
06:48 | <SynrG> | 'unrepresentable change' usually means a source package format that can't represent binary files that are somehow included in the source diff. i don't know how your change would lead to that |
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06:49 | <themill> | sounds like a "fails to build twice in a row" problem |
06:49 | <EmleyMoor> | The original debian/rules: http://paste.debian.net/161346/ |
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06:49 | <EmleyMoor> | themill: Could be... how do I nullify the first time? |
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06:52 | <EmleyMoor> | Anyway, I now have a build with that option added in progress |
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06:52 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah, that debian rules is with my mod, I see |
06:53 | <themill> | EmleyMoor: btw if you're just looking for a debug build, "/msg dpkg nostrip" |
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06:53 | <SynrG> | EmleyMoor: re-extract the source to a fresh directory tree and reapply your change, i guess (regarding 'nullify the first time') |
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06:54 | <SynrG> | if it's a repeatable problem on an unmodified package, it's worth filing a bug on the source package. |
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06:54 | <EmleyMoor> | themill: Might look at that - looking for a build in which I can find which line(s) in the source are causing a mistake to be made... |
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06:55 | * | EmleyMoor is trying to increase the number of decent Jabber clients currently in Debian to 1 |
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06:58 | <macfreak> | has any1 tried to have two system users pointing to the same home account ? |
06:58 | <macfreak> | is it possible ? |
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07:01 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... may have to look at nostrip |
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07:05 | <themill> | EmleyMoor: a debhelper-using package *should* get nostrip right even with a maintainer that makes debian/rules files that look like that |
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07:06 | <EmleyMoor> | themill: We'll see... psi's developers would welcome a patch but are a bit sparse on info as to how I can tell where the problem actually lies |
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07:12 | <maniac360> | hi all |
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07:14 | <maniac360> | I recently install atftpd-server and I get Invalid IP problem, I dont what the problem is, My IP seems right, anyone have an idea? |
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07:15 | <maniac360> | I use debian squeez its for a pxe server |
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07:23 | <movl> | macfreak: man useradd |
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07:33 | <anita> | j |
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07:36 | <user__> | I need to ban some AP in network manager how can I achieve that (using kde frontend)? |
07:36 | <user__> | I know I can force the network to work with one AP but I need the otherpart |
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07:56 | <themill> | EmleyMoor: #666161 btw |
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08:17 | * | abrotman looks at sney_ :) |
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08:28 | <Nelg|Ex> | hi |
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08:29 | <Nelg|Ex> | ... |
08:29 | <Martian67> | hi |
08:29 | <Nelg|Ex> | hi |
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08:32 | <EmleyMoor> | Well, psi comiled with the nostrip option hasn't helped me debug it - still no clues as to where it is in the program |
08:33 | <Nelg|Ex> | some programs use --debug |
08:33 | <EmleyMoor> | Nelg|Ex: That didn't help either |
08:34 | <Nelg|Ex> | EmleyMoor: |
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08:34 | <EmleyMoor> | Nelg|Ex: ? |
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08:34 | <EmleyMoor> | --debug only gave me, in the terminal where I start psi, what gdb could give me anyway |
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08:35 | <EmleyMoor> | I really need to see where in the program it is making a mistake |
08:35 | <Nelg|Ex> | 0xff0000I never tested colors... |
08:35 | <Nelg|Ex> | ok it does not work |
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08:37 | <jm_> | the dumb approach would be to add printf-s to the code and locate it thay way |
08:37 | <Nelg|Ex> | EmleyMoor would checking your log help? |
08:38 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: Too much code to make that practical |
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08:38 | <EmleyMoor> | Nelg|Ex: Can't see how checking a log would help at all |
08:38 | <Nelg|Ex> | Nelg|Ex: |
08:38 | <Nelg|Ex> | EmleyMoor: k |
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08:40 | <Nelg|Ex> | channel limit? |
08:40 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes |
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08:42 | <Nelg|Ex> | huh? |
08:42 | <EmleyMoor> | Huh what? |
08:43 | <Dmitry> | :| |
08:43 | <Nelg|Ex> | well, do you know about updating mepis to debian? |
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08:43 | <Nelg|Ex> | yes/no? |
08:43 | <Dmitry> | cancel :D |
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08:44 | <EmleyMoor> | Nelg|Ex: Isn't mepis a different distribution? |
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08:44 | <Nelg|Ex> | EmleyMoor: It still uses debian repositorys |
08:44 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes, but it's not Debian |
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08:45 | <Dmitry> | every debian-based distro isn't Debian |
08:45 | <Nelg|Ex> | But now that computer is stuck at no connection from the middle of the update |
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08:46 | <Nelg|Ex> | so it wont update anymore. :( |
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08:47 | <Nelg|Ex> | that fills in my rename for messages for armagetronadvanced |
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08:50 | <Nelg|Ex> | whats a channel limit, debhelper? |
08:51 | <EmleyMoor> | It's the maximum number of users permitted on the channel at the time |
08:51 | <Nelg|Ex> | oh ok |
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08:53 | <Nelg|Ex> | hmmmm |
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08:59 | <Nelg|Ex> | . |
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09:05 | <badfit> | . |
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09:06 | <badfit> | I've created a backup script, and I'm wondering where the most appropriate place to put it is, it's a python script that gets run by cron |
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09:07 | <OpenTokix> | badfit: /usr/local/bin or /opt/programname/bin/blah.py - is where I would put it |
09:07 | <badfit> | ok |
09:07 | <badfit> | thanks |
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09:08 | <OpenTokix> | opt if it also has configuration files etc. |
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09:08 | <badfit> | and I assume it makes sense then to have the conf file in a folder called conf |
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09:17 | <Nelg|Ex> | how do i script php? |
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09:18 | <Nelg|Ex> | how do i script php?? |
09:19 | <babilen> | Nelg|Ex: I would recommend to ask about introductory material for PHP in ##php on irc.freenode.net -- I am sure that there are a bunch of good online tutorials and/or book available. |
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09:19 | <Nelg|Ex> | ##php empty... |
09:20 | <daemonkeeper> | On Freenode. |
09:20 | <daemonkeeper> | This is not Freenode. |
09:20 | <Nelg|Ex> | Freenode? |
09:20 | <Nelg|Ex> | why freenode? |
09:20 | <babilen> | !otherchannel Nelg|Ex ##php irc.freenode.net |
09:20 | <dpkg> | Nelg|Ex: The channel you are looking for is ##php on irc.freenode.net. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join ##php. If your client supports it, you can also right-click the following link and choose connect: irc://irc.freenode.net/##php |
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09:20 | <Nelg|Ex> | im using xchat |
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09:21 | <babilen> | Nelg|Ex: The ##php channel is on freenode. There is a (smaller) #php channel here on OFTC. This is also hardly related to Debian, so please just ask in either of those channels. |
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09:22 | <Nelg|Ex> | |
09:23 | <Nelg|Ex> | k thx |
09:24 | <Nelg|Ex> | no ones answering my question in #php or are they inactive. |
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09:24 | <EmleyMoor> | Which environment variable does dpkg-buildflags pick up on for g++? |
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09:26 | <daemonkeeper> | CXXFLAGS |
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09:43 | <Nelg|Ex> | bb |
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09:50 | <VES> | g'day |
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09:57 | <EmleyMoor> | Still not found a sure way to compile psi so that I cat debug it with the help of gdb yet |
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10:23 | <rgms> | Hi. Is there a way to sandbox java without running selinux another mac? |
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10:26 | * | EmleyMoor hopes he's now found a way of debugging psi |
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10:27 | <haotian> | I hope I have web-server (Apache2) and File-server (samba) installed on my system, here : http://ideone.com/dSql2 |
10:27 | <haotian> | And if that seems correct, now how I can perform an update ? |
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10:42 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... how do I get more output in gdb? |
10:44 | <EmleyMoor> | I need to see more of what it's doing between certain points... |
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10:46 | <kakashi_> | hi, can somebody please help me resolve the audio problems on my system, I have tried google+forums and everything in vain - relevant info - http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=718b1a231313e208c09ac263086e39e6bb4aa512 |
10:46 | <kakashi_> | for the record, the previous os had this configuration - http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b3f62520a97ba4f9361ac79332235db21e66798c and it worked - (this had ubuntu) |
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10:47 | <kakashi_> | at present I am using debian wheezy with the latest updates |
10:47 | <kakashi_> | please help me resolve this! |
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10:48 | <yhlfh> | hello, i'm suffering from segfault of wine and some 32bit programs |
10:49 | <yhlfh> | i'm running debian squeeze amd64 |
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11:01 | <kakashi_> | anybody? |
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11:01 | <kakashi_> | or can anyone please point me to the alsa related channel? |
11:02 | <movl> | try #alsa on Freendoe |
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11:02 | <movl> | Freenode |
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11:03 | <movl> | kakashi_: maybe a newer kernel would help |
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11:04 | <kakashi_> | movl, so you mean to say backports? |
11:04 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm trying to track down a problem in psi - I have compiled it with debugging symbols, but I need some help with gdb to find why it's stripping \ from the roster |
11:04 | <sney_> | backports doesn't apply to wheezy |
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11:05 | <Zathras> | uehm. wiki.debian.org is down? |
11:05 | <movl> | apparently :| |
11:05 | <kakashi_> | hmm... so the only hope for me is to manually remake the kernel? |
11:05 | <movl> | kakashi_: what does uname -r say? |
11:05 | <kakashi_> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
11:06 | <Dmitry> | stable |
11:06 | <kakashi_> | exactly |
11:06 | <EmleyMoor> | There's newer than that in wheezy |
11:06 | <kakashi_> | there is? |
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11:06 | <Dmitry> | wheezy is unstable |
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11:06 | <movl> | wheezy is testing |
11:06 | <movl> | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-image-2.6-686 |
11:07 | <Dmitry> | oh ok |
11:07 | <EmleyMoor> | No, wheezy is testing... |
11:07 | <movl> | you should have 3.2.x |
11:07 | <Dmitry> | yes, testing, sorry |
11:07 | <EmleyMoor> | sid is, and always will be, unsable |
11:07 | <EmleyMoor> | unstable |
11:07 | <kakashi_> | this is amd-64 |
11:07 | <kakashi_> | I think this is the most recent kernel |
11:08 | <movl> | then amd64 |
11:08 | <EmleyMoor> | kakashi_: Regardless - linux-image-2.6-amd64 should get you 3.2 |
11:08 | <movl> | is your OS up to date? |
11:08 | <kakashi_> | yes |
11:08 | <sney_> | judd, kernels |
11:08 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.3.0-trunk-686-pae (3.3-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.12-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.12-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.12-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41squeeze2); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
11:08 | <kakashi_> | just did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade |
11:08 | <movl> | so how come you have 2.6.32? |
11:08 | <kakashi_> | oh? |
11:08 | <kakashi_> | hmm, I dont know!!!! |
11:08 | <sney_> | kakashi_, when you installed squeeze, if you selected the '2.6.32' kernel instead of '2.6' it won't automatically upgrade |
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11:09 | <movl> | ls /boot | egrep vmlinuz |
11:09 | <sney_> | the installer should probably be clearer on that point. |
11:09 | <kakashi_> | oh! |
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11:09 | <kakashi_> | sney, you are correct! |
11:09 | <kakashi_> | movl, vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
11:09 | <kakashi_> | so, how do I fix that and migrate to 3.2? |
11:09 | <movl> | then install the wheezy kernel |
11:09 | <kakashi_> | I was actually wondering how I am lagging back |
11:10 | <sney_> | yeah, you can 'aptitude search linux-image' and install the one from the list that fits |
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11:10 | <sney_> | or install the 2.6 metapackage if you want |
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11:11 | <kakashi_> | what is metapackage? |
11:11 | <EmleyMoor> | A package that merely depends on other packages |
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11:12 | <movl> | like xfce to install all XFCE; in itself it does not install anything, but it depends on xfce-* packages |
11:13 | <sney_> | !metapackage |
11:13 | <dpkg> | from memory, metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get/aptitude command line. The version of a metapackage can be misleading -- look at what it depends on instead (see the kde metapackage for an example). |
11:13 | <kakashi_> | ah! coincidentally I am on xfce ;), let me install the metapackage and check if it works |
11:13 | <kakashi_> | one more question - what is linux-image |
11:13 | <kakashi_> | oops |
11:13 | <EmleyMoor> | The package name of kernels |
11:14 | <kakashi_> | s/linux-image/PREEMPT_RT |
11:14 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah... |
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11:15 | <kakashi_> | well, I better not install PREEMPT_RT, I am still fine with the virtual world |
11:16 | <sney_> | you'd need to roll your own to get a realtime kernel anyway, afaik |
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11:17 | <EmleyMoor> | I don't think I can trace this problem with psi at all, without LOADS of help. ltrace likely won't help much as it's for libraries and system calls, not for programs themselves |
11:18 | <kakashi_> | okay, would be back after a reboot, hope the stuff works |
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11:18 | <sney_> | EmleyMoor, sounds like a job for bugreport |
11:18 | <sney_> | er, reportbuy |
11:18 | <sney_> | g |
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11:19 | <EmleyMoor> | I've reported the bug both to Debian and upstream. Upstream's attitude is "you can supply us with a patch" |
11:19 | <sney_> | well that's rude |
11:19 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: gdb doesn't help? |
11:19 | <EmleyMoor> | I can't even find which bit needs patching |
11:19 | <it9001> | Everybody should use Debian |
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11:20 | <it9001> | Everybody in the world |
11:20 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: I can't make it help |
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11:20 | <EmleyMoor> | It might help, if I can get lots of help with it |
11:21 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: install the -dbg package |
11:21 | <it9001> | Anyway, I finally got my internet working :P |
11:21 | <it9001> | thanks to a good friend of mine :3 |
11:21 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: There isn't one. I have recompiled the proper one with symbols. |
11:21 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: better yet, check to see if vanilla works |
11:21 | <movl> | oh |
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11:22 | <movl> | and what does bt full say? |
11:22 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: vanilla is just as broken. |
11:22 | <movl> | nasty |
11:22 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: From where I encounter the mistakeL |
11:22 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: From where I encounter the mistake? |
11:22 | <movl> | how do you run gdb? |
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11:23 | <EmleyMoor> | Well, I can gdb psi, or run psi first and gdb psi pid |
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11:23 | <movl> | ok, and do a 'bt full' on the gdb prompt |
11:24 | <movl> | maybe send the backtrace to the developers |
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11:24 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: Yes, but at what point do I do a bt full? |
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11:24 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: you do gdb psi at a terminal, right? |
11:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes |
11:25 | <movl> | then you arrive at a gdb prompt |
11:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes... |
11:26 | <movl> | http://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace |
11:26 | <EmleyMoor> | Then I type run... |
11:26 | <movl> | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml |
11:26 | <movl> | use the 2nd link to see how to save to file |
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11:27 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: The problem is not a crash or a freeze, but a mistake |
11:27 | <movl> | yes, type run, then 'set logging file filename.log', then 'set logging on', then 'bt full', then 'set logging off', then 'quit' |
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11:28 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: a backtrace is always useful |
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11:28 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: So, I get it to make the mistake, then stop it, and get the bt? |
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11:29 | <movl> | yeah |
11:29 | <movl> | see the links above I sent you |
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11:31 | <EmleyMoor> | I don't think it's given anything relevant |
11:31 | <movl> | how do you know? |
11:32 | <EmleyMoor> | There's loads of stuff it's calling on, but this problem is something within |
11:32 | <haotian> | I hope I have web-server (Apache2) and File-server (samba) installed on my system, here : http://ideone.com/dSql2 |
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11:32 | <haotian> | And if that seems correct, now how I can perform an update ? |
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11:32 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: I understand you're not a developer |
11:32 | <movl> | so do not assume |
11:32 | <EmleyMoor> | I'll pastebin it and then tell you what I mean |
11:32 | <kakashi_> | back, but on the old kernel |
11:32 | <movl> | send that file upstream, you will help |
11:32 | <kakashi_> | when i boot in the new kernel the system freezes |
11:33 | <kakashi_> | I mean I get some hazy thing on the screen |
11:33 | <kakashi_> | any idea? |
11:33 | <movl> | there was a guy yesterday with the same issue |
11:33 | <movl> | but I fell asleep :( |
11:33 | <movl> | maybe someone else remembers |
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11:34 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: Same issue? Can you describe the issue? |
11:34 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: that was for kakashi_, sorry |
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11:35 | <kakashi_> | well, something to do with X? |
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11:35 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: Ah... anyway, http://paste.debian.net/161365/ - can't see anything in there about it droopping a \ in a JID when adding to the roster, and that was taken as soon as it was possible to after it happened |
11:35 | <movl> | like I said, I can't remember |
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11:36 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: if you see this No symbol table info available. |
11:36 | <movl> | you must install that -dbg package as well |
11:36 | <movl> | as it's a linked binary |
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11:36 | <movl> | so search libqt4-dbg or so |
11:37 | <movl> | and recompile psi |
11:37 | <EmleyMoor> | I can't see how reccompiling psi again will make a difference - besides, the problem is internal to psi. However, I will go ahead and see if it helps. |
11:38 | <movl> | it will get you a more meaningful backtrace |
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11:38 | <EmleyMoor> | Can we say "less meaningless" instead? |
11:38 | <movl> | and again, how on earth do you know if it's internal to psi? |
11:39 | <movl> | less meaningful :P |
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11:39 | <movl> | haotian: better install packages one by one |
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11:40 | <haotian> | movl :: how ? |
11:40 | <kakashi_> | movl, do you have the log from yesterday? |
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11:40 | <kakashi_> | movl, relevant discussion about 3.2 freeze |
11:40 | <movl> | haotian: search google for 'debian apache' |
11:40 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: Well, I am installing the xmlpatterns dbg as well... as if it isn't purely psi throwing a character away, that will be where it is, I guess |
11:40 | <movl> | kakashi_: the log should be online somewhere |
11:41 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there actually a need to compile psi again once these are on? |
11:41 | <haotian> | but I already have it installed I think movl |
11:41 | <movl> | afair, yes, so the linker knows about the debug symbols |
11:41 | <EmleyMoor> | (not objecting, merely trying to save time) |
11:41 | <movl> | haotian: you think> |
11:41 | <movl> | ? |
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11:45 | <supersemko> | does it matter if i install debian on an extended partition? :/ |
11:45 | * | supersemko ? |
11:45 | <EmleyMoor> | supersemko: I don't think so |
11:45 | <movl> | supersemko: root must be on primary |
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11:46 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah... |
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11:46 | <movl> | a PC cannot boot from an extended partition |
11:46 | <supersemko> | movl: how do you mean? |
11:46 | <movl> | I mean, the root partition must be primary |
11:46 | <EmleyMoor> | supersemko: Where will you be installing grub? |
11:46 | <movl> | PC architecture sucks balls |
11:46 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: it doesn't matter |
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11:48 | <movl> | supersemko: you don't have any free primary partitions? |
11:48 | <supersemko> | movl: no but not a problem |
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11:48 | <supersemko> | fortunately i dont have much stuff on the partition that i am gonna make primary |
11:49 | <supersemko> | pc architecture indeed sucks balls |
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11:49 | <movl> | supersemko: yeah, tell me about it |
11:49 | <movl> | you get what you pay for |
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11:49 | <supersemko> | movl: and how 'bout the limit of primary partitions? who came up with that idea? |
11:49 | <movl> | IBM |
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11:50 | <supersemko> | it's max afaik |
11:50 | <supersemko> | max 4 |
11:50 | <movl> | yes |
11:50 | <EmleyMoor> | I cope just fine with 3... |
11:50 | <EmleyMoor> | (per disk) |
11:50 | <movl> | usually people do 3 primary + 1 extended that contains the others |
11:50 | <EmleyMoor> | I used to do that |
11:51 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: yeah, for simple systems, you can go /, swap, /home |
11:51 | <supersemko> | but swap also counts as a primary right? |
11:51 | <movl> | you can have swap extended |
11:51 | <movl> | no probs |
11:51 | <petemc> | or a file |
11:51 | <movl> | but it counts as a partition |
11:51 | <EmleyMoor> | movl: You can also have LVM if you want to get into that |
11:51 | <movl> | yeah |
11:51 | <supersemko> | how much swap do you guys spare? as much as RAM= |
11:51 | <supersemko> | ? |
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11:51 | <movl> | but it adds some overhead |
11:52 | <movl> | supersemko: if it's a system I need ti hibernate and it has 4GB, I go with 5+GB |
11:52 | <sney_> | I don't have any swap on desktops, I do as much as ram on laptops so I can use s2disk |
11:52 | <EmleyMoor> | I often go for 2xRAM |
11:52 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: that's not an universal solution |
11:52 | <supersemko> | ok gtg, thanks for the help |
11:52 | <sney_> | 2xram is an old rule of thumb from back when we had maybe 128MB of ram on a normal computer |
11:52 | <movl> | yw |
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11:52 | <movl> | yeah |
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11:53 | <EmleyMoor> | Indeed - by no means universal |
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11:53 | <movl> | no use for 16 GB of swap on an 8 GB system |
11:53 | <movl> | plus you can tune swappiness, depending on the uses of the system |
11:53 | <movl> | and disk speed, etc. |
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11:55 | <it9001> | 16 gb swap? |
11:56 | <it9001> | is someone on crack in here?? |
11:56 | <movl> | ... |
11:56 | <EmleyMoor> | That's why the old rule-of-thumb is a bit pointless nowadays |
11:56 | <movl> | yeah, but not always |
11:56 | <movl> | on a desktop, maybe |
11:56 | <EmleyMoor> | RAM + 1 is often adequate |
11:56 | <sney_> | it9001, no, but I think there might be some reading comprehension issues |
11:57 | <movl> | sney_: thanks :) |
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11:57 | <it9001> | it clearly says |
11:57 | <it9001> | 16 gb of swap |
11:57 | <it9001> | movl said.. |
11:57 | <sney_> | and before that, |
11:57 | <sney_> | 'no use for' |
11:57 | <movl> | it9001: did you bother to look BEFORE that? |
11:57 | <gdb> | RAM x 2 is the recommendation if you are not using VM overcommits (which you really shouldn't use on production systems) |
11:59 | <gdb> | The "at least RAM x1" recommendation is for something that Linux doesn't really support (at least not easily) and that's the accommodation of kernel coredumps in the event of a panic. The entire content of RAM needs to be contained by the swap partition so savecore can retrieve it as the system reboots again. |
11:59 | <gdb> | So people allocating RAMx2 in swap are not, in fact, on crack. :-) |
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12:00 | <gdb> | (Note that the reason you use RAMx2 has nothing to do with actual swapping, but has to do with VM overcommits to accommodate large memory size processes that are forking). |
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12:03 | <EmleyMoor> | http://paste.debian.net/161367/ - is that any better |
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12:04 | <movl> | EmleyMoor: MUCH better |
12:04 | <EmleyMoor> | My point remains that this is with the mistake "made" - not "in the making" - though maybe it will do some good |
12:04 | <movl> | that is a complete backtrace |
12:04 | <movl> | send it to parties involved |
12:04 | <movl> | gotta run now |
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12:06 | <magnus> | Hey, can someone help me with a USB related issue? |
12:07 | <Dmitry> | go on |
12:07 | <EmleyMoor> | magnus: State your problem, then someone might |
12:09 | <magnus> | I have an USB drive and right now it's at /dev/sdd1 but if I unplug it and plug it in again it shows up at /dev/sde1. Can I make it so it gets the same /dev/sd everytime it gets mounted? |
12:09 | <meglaw> | did you plug it into the same usbport? |
12:10 | <EmleyMoor> | It might be easier to get it as "/media/LABEL" consistently rather than the same /dev |
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12:12 | <magnus> | Yes, it's the same port. The label method seems to be the wat to go then. |
12:13 | <magnus> | way* |
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12:48 | <magnus> | EmleyMoor: That did the trick. Thanks for your help. :) |
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12:49 | <EmleyMoor> | I hardly did anything, but am glad following up on the idea worked |
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12:52 | <magnus> | EmleyMoor: I asked a question and you had a solution so you did help alot. :) |
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13:59 | <dhananjay> | Im relatively new to debian, I see a lot of jargons like d-i b-d etc when reading about debian. What are they? Is there any place where they are documented? |
13:59 | <petemc> | d-i is debian installer |
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14:00 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 507] by debhelper |
14:01 | <dhananjay> | Thanks, any place where I can look them all up? ;) |
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14:01 | <petemc> | im not aware of any |
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14:02 | <dhananjay> | mm, whats b-d? I got it from here http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-boinc-devel/2011-January/003075.html |
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14:03 | <petemc> | could be build-depends |
14:03 | <petemc> | im guessing tho, im not a dev |
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14:04 | <sney> | dhananjay: m-a is module assistant, and any m-a a-i etc commands can actually be run like that |
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14:06 | <dhananjay> | sney: petemc How do you guys decipher them then? |
14:06 | <nbm> | Does anyone know why my copy of wireshark (Debian testing, wireshark 1.6.5-2) doesn't have the IPv6 dissector but my neighbor's (Ubuntu 11.10, wireshark 1.6.2-1) does? Or, more importantly, how I can get it into mine? |
14:06 | <petemc> | context, seeing them mentioned here etc |
14:07 | <sney> | dhananjay: and if that fails we ask |
14:07 | <petemc> | dhananjay: the bot, dpkg, knows a lot, you can /msg dpkg d-i |
14:07 | <petemc> | etc |
14:07 | <dhananjay> | cool |
14:08 | <dhananjay> | dpkg is nice. Got a new one already. :) |
14:08 | <dpkg> | dhananjay: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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14:11 | <dhananja1> | Thanks you guys. Got what I was looking for. |
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14:18 | <nandha> | hi there |
14:18 | <nandha> | i wanna know the functionality of start-stop-daemon command |
14:18 | <nandha> | it breaks up the execution of the script if it failed to start or stop |
14:19 | <nandha> | wanna know the reason behind this |
14:19 | <nandha> | any one could help me |
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14:25 | <retrospectacus> | nandha: insufficient data for meaningful answer. Maybe you should paste your script on http://paste.debian.org and describe the problem in more detail |
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14:26 | <nandha> | cool .. i'll do it.. if needed, may i give some clear details here ..? |
14:27 | <retrospectacus> | yes, just don't paste in here |
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14:31 | <retrospectacus> | nandha: don't message me |
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15:14 | <DAKAR> | tema libre?? |
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15:16 | <alcob-tio39> | DAKAR: hola |
15:16 | <DAKAR> | hola |
15:16 | <DAKAR> | eres usuario de debian? |
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15:17 | <sney> | !es |
15:17 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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15:27 | <alession> | !list |
15:27 | <dpkg> | alession: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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15:49 | <maujhsn> | nyker Do u use "lenny"? |
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15:50 | <maujhsn> | Ganneff Do you use lenny? |
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15:50 | <maujhsn> | tensorpudding Do you use lenny? |
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15:51 | <@Ganneff> | maujhsn: stop it |
15:51 | <@Ganneff> | !ask |
15:51 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
15:51 | <it9001> | dpkg -i xchat |
15:51 | <dpkg> | package xchat is already installed |
15:51 | <it9001> | Lmao. |
15:51 | <maujhsn> | maujhsn OK |
15:52 | <it9001> | dpkg -i install.deb |
15:52 | * | dpkg installs install.deb into it9001's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
15:52 | <it9001> | Lol! |
15:52 | <maujhsn> | Want to know if the latest lenny includes kdenlive! |
15:52 | <@Ganneff> | use /msg and dont play here |
15:53 | <@Ganneff> | maujhsn: then look for yourself. snapshot.debian.org or archive.debian.org is your friend |
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15:57 | <it9001> | apt-get install test |
15:57 | <it9001> | Aww dpkg doesen't respond :/ |
15:59 | <maujhsn> | Ganneff Do you use lenny version 5.0.3? |
15:59 | <tensorpudding> | maujhsn, search the debian package database to see which version of kdenlive lenny has |
16:00 | <it9001> | i wonder if someone is still using the very first debian |
16:00 | <tensorpudding> | oh |
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16:00 | <tensorpudding> | it's not even in lenny at all |
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16:01 | <tensorpudding> | it was initially packaged after lenny released |
16:01 | <tensorpudding> | you should be using squeeze anyway |
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16:02 | <it9001> | Lol im on this irc using squeeze |
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16:03 | <Jackson> | i think cpu scaling fried again my laptop adapter |
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16:03 | <nbm> | I'm totally running slink. |
16:03 | <Guest8177> | i had to buy a second universal adapter today :( |
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16:03 | <jackson5> | it's very sad |
16:04 | <tensorpudding> | slink is kickin' it oldschool |
16:04 | <@Ganneff> | and why should we care? what has it to do with debian support? |
16:04 | <nbm> | Yeah, I'm not really. |
16:04 | <jackson5> | Ganneff, you jackass. it's your stupid cpuscale |
16:04 | <jackson5> | jerk |
16:04 | <jackson5> | in windows it was fine |
16:04 | <jackson5> | the scaling was proper |
16:04 | <jackson5> | if i use ondemand. that's just retarded |
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16:05 | <jackson5> | scaling doesn't reach to full power |
16:05 | <jackson5> | comparing to performance profile |
16:05 | <nbm> | I do still have some ancient install cds for slink somewhere though. They're in nice sleeves that say how wonderful free software is. |
16:05 | <jackson5> | and i keep changing profiles from performance to ondemand which limits to 800 mhz and that fries the fucking adapters |
16:06 | <jackson5> | this goddamn power fluctuations Ganneff if you understand |
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16:07 | <jackson5> | fix it or gtfo pig. your stupid debian piece of secure shit costs people money |
16:07 | <valdyn> | jackson5: please leave |
16:07 | <jackson5> | fu |
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16:08 | <it9001> | I'm using debian squeeze right now... it's as stable as a huge rock |
16:08 | <nbm> | Wow, troll much? |
16:08 | <it9001> | Probably is |
16:08 | <brando753> | probably |
16:09 | <it9001> | the chances of that happening are very low, unless he has made some modification him self. |
16:09 | <gdb> | Huh. What an odd fellow. |
16:09 | <it9001> | ikr... |
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16:10 | <it9001> | brb |
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16:19 | <it9001> | ima go now |
16:19 | <it9001> | cya later guys |
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16:22 | <maujhsn> | it9001 What does "squeeze" include for multimedia video & audio editing? |
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16:25 | <ml|> | what is the judd command to check if a package can be built on stable?, I forgot |
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16:26 | <gnugr> | type "judd <packagename>" |
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16:31 | <ml|> | gnugr: thanks will try that in a few and remember it started with check...; "<judd> You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." |
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16:32 | <gnugr> | ml|:try with "judd info package" or "judd depends package" |
16:32 | <ml|> | ok |
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16:34 | <gass> | hello |
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16:35 | <gass> | i bought a wireless usb board 7392:4085 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd . i read that it was added to the rt2800usb module in kernel 2.6.39, acording to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/754678 and i see it there. but in debian wheezy with kernel 3.2.0 it does'nt work |
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16:36 | <gass> | i have already installed the firmware-ralink |
16:36 | <gass> | can anyone tell me if this was removed from the debian kernel? |
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16:38 | <petemc> | i dont think you need a wireless network card driver for a keyboard |
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16:39 | <retrospectacus> | ml|: you want ,checkbackport foo |
16:39 | <ml|> | retrospectacus: that is it thanks :) |
16:40 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 500] by debhelper |
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16:42 | <gass> | petemc, ?? |
16:42 | <gass> | petemc, oh ... board ... card |
16:43 | <gass> | i bought a wireless usb card 7392:4085 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd . i read that it was added to the rt2800usb module in kernel 2.6.39, acording to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/754678 and i see it there. but in debian wheezy with kernel 3.2.0 it does'nt work |
16:43 | <retrospectacus> | !rt2800usb |
16:43 | <dpkg> | Ralink 802.11n/g USB chipsets (RT2070, RT2770, RT2870, RT3070, RT3071, RT3072, RT3370, RT3572, RT5370) are supported by the rt2x00 project's rt2800usb driver, introduced in Linux 2.6.31. Firmware is required, ask me about <ralink firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb |
16:43 | <petemc> | gass: oh, silly me sorry |
16:44 | <petemc> | i read keyboard |
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17:11 | <tosted> | dpkg, about hdmi tv monitor |
17:11 | <dpkg> | tosted: wish i knew |
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17:13 | <nsadmin> | !hdmi |
17:13 | <dpkg> | HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) is a compact audio/video interface for transmitting uncompressed digital data. |
17:14 | <nsadmin> | !hdmi monitor |
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17:15 | <nsadmin> | !listkeys hdmi |
17:15 | <dpkg> | Factoid search of 'hdmi' by key (1): hdmi. |
17:15 | <nsadmin> | so that's all it has |
17:15 | <nsadmin> | !listvals hdmi |
17:16 | <dpkg> | Factoid search of 'hdmi' by value (1): hdmi. |
17:16 | <tosted> | nsadmin, what driver would load up? |
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17:16 | <nsadmin> | the driver for your video card, I would think |
17:17 | <nsadmin> | there could be a description of the driver which may specify what's done about the hdmi |
17:18 | <tosted> | nsadmin, i think video card drive is ok, but i cant listen any audio on monitor. |
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17:18 | <simm42> | hi all - in need of a little help - GRUB2, RAID, LVM2 and GPT setup. I get dropped into busybox shell on boot. I have a rootdelay=30 set. I have lvm2 on top of a raid1 array. /dev/md1 is assembled by lvm, but its partitions are not shown in /dev. component device is a 3Tb disk with GPT - any ideas? |
17:18 | <tosted> | nsadmin, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) |
17:19 | <simonlnu> | !hda-intel |
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17:19 | <simonlnu> | bleh |
17:19 | <streuner> | tosed, we need the pciid |
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17:20 | <tosted> | simm42, dmraid=true at boot setup |
17:20 | <nsadmin> | tosted, the pciid comes when you lspci -nn |
17:20 | <simm42> | thanks will try it |
17:20 | <tosted> | add that line |
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17:21 | <nsadmin> | tosted, so, run lspci -nn and show the same line again (which will have a little more stuff on it) |
17:22 | <tosted> | nsadmin, 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05) |
17:22 | <simm42> | tosted: I'm not using sata raid - I'm using mdadm |
17:22 | <nsadmin> | dereitis |
17:22 | <nsadmin> | , pciid [8086:1c20] |
17:22 | <judd> | [8086:1c20] is '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1c20 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
17:22 | <gass> | retrospectacus, my card is not on that page ... but it was on the rt2800sta |
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17:23 | <tosted> | simm42, add tha line at kernel image boot up, and try again! may you can see at parted or boot rescue disk. |
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17:24 | <nsadmin> | tosted, so I'm a bit confused... I guess this is a separate inquiry? you have video card with an hdmi port? |
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17:24 | <tosted> | yeah.... |
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17:24 | <tosted> | videos is onboard. |
17:25 | <nsadmin> | and the audio thing, that's asomething else? |
17:25 | <tosted> | inel z68 chipset, |
17:25 | <simm42> | am giving it a go... booting the rescue disk does work - I get my full system back up - the problem I'm having is getting it to boot by itself |
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17:26 | <simm42> | tosted: yep same thing - I'm dropped to busybox shell |
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17:26 | <tosted> | nsadmin, motherboard GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 |
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17:26 | <simm42> | if I run mdadm to assemble the drive by hand it works fine, lvm can then see the array |
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17:27 | <nsadmin> | let's back up a step, zoom out... what is the issue you want to solve right now? is it actually two things? |
17:28 | * | simonlnu zooms out nsadmin's lens |
17:28 | <nsadmin> | owww my eye! |
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17:29 | <simm42> | nsadmin stick to L lenses - safer ;) |
17:29 | <nevyn> | mmmm L glass |
17:29 | <simm42> | wipe clean because it has to be ;) |
17:30 | <nevyn> | course photography is the pinacle of network effects and lockin. |
17:30 | <nsadmin> | it tastes better when it's rolled in fried onions and sand... |
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17:31 | <nevyn> | and firmware that is large and extremely variable without meaningful dialog as to what's changed. |
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17:31 | <gass> | humm ... is there any channel for kernel problems? |
17:32 | <nsadmin> | #kernel-newbies? |
17:32 | <nevyn> | gass: yes. there's #debian-kernel for debian kernel problems |
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17:32 | <nevyn> | but it really rather depends what the problem is exactly |
17:32 | <nevyn> | !ask |
17:32 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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17:34 | <gass> | nevyn, thanks |
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17:35 | <simm42> | ok still no joy. even with a 45 sec root delay (so I'm pretty certain the disks are online) I get dropped into the root shell with the md array not there. assembling it by hand (mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev/sdb1) from busybox works fine (yes I know there is only one drive, I'm half way through a rather tricky rebuild after a disk failure |
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17:35 | <simm42> | anyone any guesses |
17:36 | <simm42> | (currently trying a 120 second delay just to be completely paranoid) |
17:36 | <nsadmin> | I guess coffee is good! |
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17:37 | <nsadmin> | brb, pouring |
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17:37 | <simm42> | it is by caffine alone that I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of java that thoughts aquire speed, the hands aquire shaking the shaking becomes a warning, it is by caffine alone I set my mind in motion |
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17:39 | <nsadmin> | my mind in motion, following it is an interesting notion |
17:40 | <nevyn> | tell gass about ralink |
17:40 | <nsadmin> | so it's trying to get the root fs device and not getting there? |
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17:42 | <simm42> | nsadmin: correct - hands for a while and then stops |
17:43 | <simm42> | I am getting errors from /scripts/local-top when starting the raid arrays - trying to figure out what it does. I know there are errors there (eg a raid 1 array with only 1 disk) but it should still start |
17:43 | <nsadmin> | is your / on raid? |
17:44 | <nsadmin> | also did this used to work? or are you trying to get it to work now for the first time? |
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17:45 | <nsadmin> | maybe the initrd doesn't have the modules necessary for some part of mounting /? |
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17:45 | <simm42> | nsadmin: trying for the first time on this config - I've had to rearrange the disks in a rescue shell, / is on lvm on top of raid |
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17:46 | <simm42> | nsadmin I dont think so because if I do it by hand from within the initrd it works |
17:46 | <simm42> | so everything is there |
17:46 | <nsadmin> | got an extra primary partition you can put /boot on? |
17:46 | <simm42> | reading the shell script now - I feel dirty |
17:46 | <nsadmin> | so it's not in raid, not in lvm |
17:47 | <simm42> | I could - but that would defeat the point of getting this damn thing to work this way :) it should work - I'm just not sure what I'm missing |
17:47 | <nsadmin> | right, it would defeat that point :) |
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17:47 | <nsadmin> | it's as oldskool as all hell :) |
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17:49 | <simm42> | hmmm ok mdadm exit code 2 from mdadm --assemble --scan --run (which is what the startup script is trying to do |
17:49 | <nsadmin> | so you're concentrating on how this all-in-raid/lvm thing can work |
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17:49 | <simm42> | I know it can work as I have squeeze servers at work set up this way |
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17:50 | <simm42> | however they were set up from the install that way |
17:50 | <nsadmin> | ok |
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17:50 | <nsadmin> | and now, you're trying to learn to do it after install |
17:50 | <simm42> | I'm trying to migrate a system that was on normal partitions (with home on lvm) all into lvm on raid - having to spend 8 days slowing running dd_rescue persuaded me to invest ina few 3tb drives |
17:51 | <simm42> | I'm missing something - I'm just not sure what |
17:52 | <nsadmin> | well you're right about at least one thing... 8 days is a helluva investment :) |
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17:52 | <simm42> | well I didn't need to do much appart from have the server in a rescue shell to recover all the data |
17:53 | <nsadmin> | glad you were able to recover it all |
17:53 | <simm42> | ok I think what it is is that the --assemble command doesn't work |
17:53 | <simm42> | not with --scan |
17:53 | <nsadmin> | take a look at the setup on one of the work machines? |
17:54 | <simm42> | I'm pretty sure I got it the same - I'm the sysadmin at work |
17:55 | <nsadmin> | ok... so find the command that does the assembly and see... another possibility is that if the assembly is completed, will the /dev nodes get created? |
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17:56 | <nsadmin> | also man mdadm and see what the error code means |
17:56 | <nsadmin> | you must have done that already |
17:57 | <simm42> | yep - man page doesn't show exit code for the assemble mode |
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17:59 | <nsadmin> | it looks like there is not a scan "mode" |
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18:00 | <simm42> | no the mode is assemble |
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18:00 | <simm42> | scan is an option to assemble |
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18:01 | <simm42> | I'm going to rescue disk to see if I can figure this out |
18:01 | <simm42> | I think the problem is rooted in not being able to bring the md device up with the scan |
18:02 | <nsadmin> | this is squeeze? I am not seeing a scan option to assemble mode in the man page |
18:03 | <simm42> | yep squeeze |
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18:03 | <nsadmin> | looked twice, looking again... |
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18:04 | <nsadmin> | there IS a scan for incremental assembly mode |
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18:06 | <nsadmin> | so that must be what you're using? |
18:06 | <simm42> | its what the busybox scripts use |
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18:07 | <simm42> | I've just taken the raid flag off a partition I hadn't gotten arround to creating a raid array on yet |
18:07 | <simm42> | and the assemble from the rescue dis env likes that |
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18:07 | <nsadmin> | so you got further by doing that? |
18:08 | <simm42> | I'm rebooting and crossing fingers |
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18:09 | <tosted> | nsadmin, noway man... i cant make hdmi sond out works! |
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18:15 | <simm42> | nope no joy with that option.... |
18:15 | <simm42> | tosted: its not an agp card is it? |
18:16 | <tosted> | simm42, not agp... i m using intel core i3 2100 3.1Ghz |
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18:17 | <tosted> | simm42, motherboard gygabite ga-z68ma-d2h-b3 |
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18:17 | <tosted> | simm42, none offboard plugged in! |
18:18 | <tosted> | simm42, i ll try create a asound.conf |
18:18 | <simm42> | I'm assuming it pressents as a pci-e then? |
18:18 | <nsadmin> | tosted, anything in /proc/asound/cards? |
18:19 | <tosted> | simm42, and determine sound travelling digital cables... |
18:19 | <simm42> | if it presents as an agp card (even though on board and the older on boards did) then you won#t get sound working - its not supported by the drivers and no plans to change - hit that one myself last year as my media center is on an fairly old board |
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18:21 | <tosted> | nsadmin, yes... 0 [PCH ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH HDA Intel PCH at 0xfbff8000 irq 43 |
18:22 | <nsadmin> | so you have one card there |
18:22 | <simm42> | can you msg me your lspci output |
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18:22 | <gnugr> | tosted:give it a try with "intel-microcode" |
18:22 | <nsadmin> | or pastebin it |
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18:23 | <tosted> | gnugr, intel-microcode are installed! |
18:24 | <gnugr> | works for me, i also use intel card |
18:24 | <nsadmin> | simm42, didn;t you say you're doing mdadm --assemble --scan? |
18:24 | <simm42> | indeed |
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18:25 | <nsadmin> | according to what I read in the man page, that's not going to work... you need to use --incremental --scan as there is not --scan for --assemble |
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18:27 | <tosted> | http://pastebin.com/a5CnR83j |
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18:27 | <nsadmin> | gotta assert those bugs for pastebinit |
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18:28 | <tosted> | gnugr, how set intel-microcode majority / |
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18:30 | <jeff__> | hi |
18:30 | <jeff__> | Maybe someone can help. I deleted and recreated some partitions using "disk -c -u /dev/sda". Now "sfdisk -l /dev/sda" prints out the following error: |
18:31 | <jeff__> | ... /dev/sda6 1976+ 2629- 653- 5242880 fd Linux raid autodetect |
18:31 | <jeff__> | start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (952,123,4) |
18:31 | <jeff__> | end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (581,48,43) |
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18:31 | <jeff__> | Can this be ignored? |
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18:31 | <jeff__> | err i was using fdisk (not "disk") to repartition the disk |
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18:33 | <nsadmin> | /msg dpkg enter ; /msg dpkg paste |
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18:36 | <lelebart> | hi, i've just installed debian, but somewhere i made a mistake, while boot it says "rescue grub>" |
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18:36 | <mjrosenb_> | on an amd64 system, is there a way to get debug symbols for a 32 bit glibc? |
18:36 | <mjrosenb_> | libc6-i386 exists, but there is no dbg variant of it. |
18:37 | <tosted> | nsadmin, http://pastebin.com/uSTgvUaU aplay -l |
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18:40 | <simm42> | nsadmin - interesting... will have a look in the morning - time to get some sleep - for now I'm just setting it to rebuild the raid arrays inside the rescue env |
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18:40 | <simm42> | at least then I will be approaching the problem with nice clean arrays |
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18:46 | <tosted> | nsadmin, http://pastebin.com/FnHNhd0j proc/asount/devices |
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18:47 | <tosted> | is there something wrong with those files? |
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18:47 | <it9001> | hey everyone |
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18:49 | <retrospectacus> | hello again it9001 |
18:50 | <tosted> | hi it9001 |
18:50 | <it9001> | retrosectacus i eventually got my wifi working |
18:50 | <it9001> | Friend of mine helped out :) |
18:51 | <retrospectacus> | nice work |
18:51 | <it9001> | he also uses debian |
18:51 | <lelebart> | hi, i've just installed debian, but somewhere i made a mistake, while boot it says "rescue grub>" |
18:51 | <it9001> | Try making another debian cd/usb? |
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18:51 | <it9001> | you can't really go wrong with the debian installer... |
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18:53 | <lelebart> | it9001, is there another way? |
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18:55 | <it9001> | Not sure... |
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18:55 | <retrospectacus> | lelebart: you can fix grub from that prompt |
18:55 | <lelebart> | retrospectacus: tell me how, please |
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18:55 | <lelebart> | it9001: thanks anyway :) |
18:56 | <retrospectacus> | you *may* be able to fix it, I should say |
18:56 | <retrospectacus> | lelebart: do you remember your partitioning scheme? Did you create a separate /boot partition |
18:56 | <retrospectacus> | ? |
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18:57 | <lelebart> | retrospectacus: sure -> http://pastebin.com/qK9KeVnH from a Parted Magic live cd |
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18:58 | <retrospectacus> | nice |
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19:00 | <lelebart> | in sda1 there's only videos, any s/o -- it's an old hd of an old pc, now i want to convert it for a lamp server |
19:00 | <lelebart> | *into |
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19:00 | <retrospectacus> | lelebart: I think you wanna run "root(hd0,4)" and then "setup(hd0)" |
19:01 | <tosted> | maybe m-a could help mee |
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19:02 | <lelebart> | retrospectacus from "grub rescue>"? i'm going to do it |
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19:02 | <retrospectacus> | yeah |
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19:03 | <retrospectacus> | lelebart: then "quit" and reboot |
19:04 | <lelebart> | retrospectacus: i'm a newbie, i'm sorry if i'm silly |
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19:05 | <lelebart> | retrospectacus: unknown command 'root(hd0,4)' |
19:06 | <nsadmin> | set root (hd0,4) |
19:06 | <nsadmin> | try that |
19:06 | <nsadmin> | this is grub2? |
19:06 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: i guess yes |
19:07 | <nsadmin> | what's in /boot/grub/device.map? |
19:07 | <nsadmin> | mostly what's hd0? |
19:07 | <lelebart> | error: not an assignment |
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19:07 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: http://pastebin.com/qK9KeVnH |
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19:08 | <nsadmin> | that;s device.map? |
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19:08 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: no. |
19:09 | <nsadmin> | is there one? |
19:09 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: it's the result of 'boot info script' |
19:09 | <retrospectacus> | if root(hd0,4) didn't work I'm out |
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19:10 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 480] by debhelper |
19:10 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: i don't know. i'm going to run a live cd |
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19:10 | <lelebart> | retrospectacus: thanks anyway :) |
19:10 | <nsadmin> | could you check? L:) |
19:10 | <nsadmin> | err are you booted right now? |
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19:11 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: i'm stucked in 'grub rescue>', just burned the cd |
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19:13 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: booting from the live debian |
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19:14 | <tosted> | somebody understand about m-a and guide me in? http://pastebin.com/G1q7rnxz |
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19:15 | <tosted> | persistent error from line 765 |
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19:18 | <sney> | !localized errors |
19:18 | <dpkg> | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install |
19:18 | <sney> | tosted: ^ |
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19:18 | <lelebart> | boot failed! unable to find a medium containing a live file system |
19:19 | <lelebart> | but started a shell (initramfs) |
19:20 | <dvs> | tosted: I'm guessing that you don't have the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package installed |
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19:23 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: super grub2 disk: error: no os found. maybe my hd broke down |
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19:25 | <nsadmin> | maybe... so, the details that are available so far unfortunately don't lead me anywhere yet |
19:26 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: running a Parted Magic live cd. hope to do something |
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19:27 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, one detail I'm missing right now, is exactly what you're trying to accomplish right now |
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19:28 | <nsadmin> | boot something existing? install a debian? explore something? repair something? |
19:28 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: i'm trying to install debian on a old pc -- i need a lamp server for web developing. |
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19:29 | <taotaomona> | ? |
19:29 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: after hte installation, the fist boot stucked in 'rescue grub>', i'mt trying to understand why and how to fix |
19:29 | <nsadmin> | the mp part isn't the greatest thing you could pick |
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19:30 | <nsadmin> | ok, so far I got "you installed debian and can't boot" |
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19:31 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: yes, long story short |
19:31 | <nsadmin> | so I need details about what you did to set up the disk during install |
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19:33 | <nsadmin> | or not :) /me is getting more coffee :) |
19:33 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: everything i can give you. |
19:33 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: mee too, meybe i'll try tomorrow btw |
19:34 | <nsadmin> | understand that presently i am still blocked from helping since you have not provided necessary info that I am aware of |
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19:35 | <nsadmin> | "everything I can give you" is not a detail, and truthfully I am reminded of Miss Swan from Mad TV |
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19:36 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: yes. and i'm sorry for my poor english. oh, i get the /boot/grub/device.map: (hd0) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Maxtor_6V200E0_V40M0QAG |
19:37 | <nsadmin> | it's not your english; I can understand you perfectly |
19:37 | <tosted> | dvs, you are right! linux-headers-... were not installed |
19:37 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: i mean: tell me what you need to help me, i can make a good coffee, even i don't know who that lady is |
19:38 | <dvs> | !beer me |
19:38 | * | dpkg pours a quart of Older Viscosity for dvs |
19:38 | <nsadmin> | heh... when you find out you'll laugh |
19:38 | <lelebart> | !google miss swan |
19:38 | <nsadmin> | !feer me |
19:38 | <lelebart> | :P |
19:39 | <tosted> | !beer dvs |
19:39 | * | dpkg deftly decants a fine Yuengling Lager for dvs |
19:39 | * | dvs stumbles over drunk |
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19:39 | <lelebart> | !beer me |
19:39 | * | dpkg pulls out an exquisite Piraat for lelebart |
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19:40 | <it9001> | dpkg -i brains.deb |
19:40 | * | dpkg removes a kidney from it9001 and replaces it with brains.deb |
19:40 | <themill> | you'll find datase serves nice beer in #debian-offtopic too. |
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19:41 | <it9001> | this is my favourite irc :) |
19:41 | <it9001> | !beer me |
19:41 | * | dpkg pours a quart of Gulden Drak for it9001 |
19:42 | <tosted> | dvs, oops...Build Failed again ...:((( |
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19:43 | <it9001> | !beer tosted |
19:43 | * | dpkg pours a pint of Older Viscosity for tosted |
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19:44 | <abrotman> | mmm |
19:44 | <it9001> | you want one too? |
19:44 | <abrotman> | no, serve in #debian-offtopic please |
19:44 | <it9001> | okay :P |
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19:45 | <tosted> | tnks, it9001 |
19:46 | <it9001> | Your Welcome :) |
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19:47 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: i installed debian in a partition of and old hd, which was used for widows data's (video), so the hd is like [ video, ( debian, swap ) ] but it failed on boot, grub says 'rescue grub>', how info do you need? |
19:47 | <abrotman> | you're |
19:47 | <it9001> | Have you formatted the partition with ext3? |
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19:47 | <it9001> | and have you made a swap partition |
19:47 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: before you asked me to find a device.map in /boot/grub/, i get it /boot/grub/device.map: (hd0) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Maxtor_6V200E0_V40M0QAG |
19:48 | <lelebart> | it9001: ext4.. |
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19:48 | <it9001> | i used ext3. |
19:48 | <it9001> | but ext4's fine |
19:48 | <it9001> | hmm |
19:48 | <lelebart> | that could be a problme? |
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19:48 | <it9001> | and did you make a swap area? |
19:48 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, can you do readlink /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Maxtor_6V200E0_V40M0QAG |
19:48 | <lelebart> | yes |
19:48 | <it9001> | Okay.. hmm |
19:49 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: wait |
19:49 | <it9001> | did you format the drive before the install? |
19:49 | <it9001> | like, erase it all... |
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19:49 | <nsadmin> | llf?? usually the drive comes llfed |
19:50 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 473] by debhelper |
19:50 | <nsadmin> | also llf is not recommended unless there is an actual problem with sectors |
19:50 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: i did that from the parted magic live cd, it returned nothing |
19:51 | <nsadmin> | ok, try ls -l on it |
19:51 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: what does mean 'llf' and 'llfed'? |
19:51 | <it9001> | nsadmin: are the ati radeon HD 5570 prorietary drivers availible for debian? |
19:52 | <it9001> | if so how do i get it... |
19:52 | <it9001> | proprietary* |
19:52 | <sney> | !tell it9001 -about fglrx dkms |
19:53 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, something you shouldn't do and shouldn't have to... llf is low level format, which if you do it wrong makes your disk a permanent paperweight |
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19:53 | <sney> | it9001: see your messages for the instructions |
19:54 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, and this is miss swan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXViw1qx9o |
19:54 | <it9001> | will this enable the 3d for linux games, etc.. |
19:54 | <lelebart> | sh: cd: ata-........: Not a directory |
19:54 | <sney> | it9001: yes |
19:54 | <it9001> | Okay i'll save it in a text file for when i install it on my main machine |
19:54 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, can you do ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Maxtor_6V200E0_V40M0QAG |
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19:55 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: no, i didn't llfed. i resized the ntfs and made sda5 (debian) and sda6 (swap) inside sda2 (logical) |
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19:57 | <nsadmin> | ok, if you have grub2, the partition numbers match what you do in grub so you don't (have to) subtract 1 |
19:57 | <nsadmin> | so your / partition is then (hd0,5) |
19:57 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: yup! (ls -l ) |
19:57 | <nsadmin> | could you show that? |
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19:58 | <nsadmin> | it should be one line... if more, hold off |
19:58 | <lelebart> | pastebin.com/Pa50EnZx |
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20:00 | <nsadmin> | oh ok, good. so hd0 in grub is sda, and sda5 (as mentioned) is (hd0,5) if you're using grub 2 |
20:00 | <nsadmin> | (it's (hd0,4) in grub 1) |
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20:01 | <lelebart> | nsadmin as boot info script says it should be grub 2 http://pastebin.com/qK9KeVnH |
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20:01 | <lelebart> | ok |
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20:02 | <nsadmin> | are you in grub> ? |
20:03 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: no, still with the live cd. i'll reboot right now |
20:03 | <nsadmin> | yeah, it looks a lot like grub2 |
20:03 | <it9001> | lmao i have alot of effects on this thing considering i only have an intel gma 950 |
20:03 | <nsadmin> | wait |
20:04 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: no to reboot? |
20:04 | <nsadmin> | yeah, just a sec beforehand |
20:05 | <lelebart> | rebooting |
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20:07 | <lelebart> | error: no such partition \n entering rescue mode \n grub rescue> |
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20:08 | <nsadmin> | ok, |
20:08 | <nsadmin> | so are you at grub> now? |
20:08 | <lelebart> | i hate when it starts the powersaving, arrrrrr |
20:08 | <lelebart> | yup |
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20:08 | <lelebart> | i'm in grub rescue> |
20:08 | <nsadmin> | try this: set root = (hd0,5) |
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20:09 | <lelebart> | errr: not an assignemt |
20:09 | <nsadmin> | ok, try root (hd0,5) |
20:10 | <lelebart> | unknown command 'root' |
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20:11 | <lelebart> | tryed 'help': unknown command 'help' :( |
20:11 | <nsadmin> | try: |
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20:12 | <nsadmin> | set root=(hd0,5) <-- notice no spaces |
20:12 | <lelebart> | ok |
20:12 | <lelebart> | no error |
20:12 | <lelebart> | :) now |
20:13 | <nsadmin> | now try: cat /boot/grub/device.map |
20:13 | <lelebart> | unknown command 'cat' |
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20:13 | <lelebart> | neither nano |
20:14 | <lelebart> | neither pico |
20:14 | <nsadmin> | ok, try: initrd /boot/vm <tab> |
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20:14 | <nsadmin> | so hit tab at the end of vm |
20:14 | <lelebart> | <tab> typed |
20:14 | <lelebart> | ok |
20:14 | <lelebart> | nothing happens |
20:15 | <lelebart> | (tab hitted) |
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20:15 | <nsadmin> | hmm. try getting rid of the vm so that the line reads |
20:15 | <nsadmin> | initrd /boot/ |
20:15 | <nsadmin> | then hit tab |
20:15 | <iiVeNoMii> | im new to this os what all is diff between this n mac |
20:16 | <it9001> | There is alot that's different.... |
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20:16 | <lelebart> | it seems it doesn't get my tab |
20:17 | <lelebart> | i have an italian keyboard.. but the tab button should be in the same position |
20:17 | <nsadmin> | ok, make the whole line blank |
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20:17 | <nsadmin> | hit tab |
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20:17 | <lelebart> | nothing happens |
20:17 | <iiVeNoMii> | ne1 upto date with the 5.1 ios jailbreak? |
20:18 | <nsadmin> | I can't go into grub shell to check this |
20:18 | <sney> | this is the debian linux support channel, iiVeNoMii, I think you are in the wrong place |
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20:18 | <it9001> | The Gnu/Linux Operating system is not associated with Apple |
20:18 | <lelebart> | :\ |
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20:18 | <nsadmin> | try: echo $SHELL |
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20:19 | <lelebart> | unknowscooma dehco |
20:19 | <lelebart> | mistyped |
20:19 | <lelebart> | unknown command 'echo' |
20:19 | <it9001> | lol the laptop im on now had alot of problems before i put debian on... |
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20:20 | <nsadmin> | ok, so it's not a unix shell |
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20:20 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: ok, it's not |
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20:21 | <lelebart> | found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-rescue-926163/ |
20:21 | <nsadmin> | try this: linux /boot/ |
20:21 | <nsadmin> | then hit tab |
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20:22 | <nsadmin> | hit it a coupla times |
20:22 | <lelebart> | nothing, the tab does nothing at all |
20:22 | <nsadmin> | hmm. tab used to be my friend' |
20:22 | * | nsadmin unfriends tab on facebook |
20:22 | <lelebart> | lol |
20:23 | <it9001> | Any plans for the debian 7 yet? |
20:23 | <lelebart> | "Recognized grub commands are: ls/set/unset/insmod" |
20:23 | <nsadmin> | debian 7 is what whgeezy is |
20:23 | <it9001> | i thought wheezy was 6... |
20:23 | <nsadmin> | ohh insmod |
20:24 | <nsadmin> | squeezy is 6 |
20:24 | <it9001> | Ahh i see |
20:24 | <nsadmin> | -y |
20:24 | <it9001> | so do i go to debian-next? |
20:24 | <it9001> | for info about it? |
20:24 | <nsadmin> | you can. |
20:25 | <sney> | !squeezy |
20:25 | <dpkg> | Debian 6.0 <stable> is codenamed <squeeze>. The current <testing> distribution, which will be released as Debian 7.0, is codenamed <wheezy>. There is no "squeezy" or "wheeze". |
20:25 | <lelebart> | what a smart bot |
20:26 | <nsadmin> | if your sqyeezy sounds a wheeze... consider it might have fleas |
20:26 | <it9001> | will debian 7 come with gnome 2 like 6? |
20:26 | <lelebart> | 42! |
20:26 | <nsadmin> | dunno0 |
20:27 | <nsadmin> | maybe gnome 3 |
20:27 | <it9001> | Lets just hope gnome 3 improves... |
20:27 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, how did you get the recognized commands message? |
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20:27 | * | lelebart has a pc which beeped and powersaved |
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20:28 | <lelebart> | from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-rescue-926163/ |
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20:29 | <it9001> | wow... debian is amazing |
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20:33 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: typed: ls (hd0,5) |
20:33 | <lelebart> | error: no such partition |
20:34 | <it9001> | gtg now |
20:34 | <nsadmin> | hmm |
20:34 | <it9001> | sleep |
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20:34 | <nsadmin> | try insmod msdos |
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20:34 | <lelebart> | is there a live cd with gnome? maybe i can try to apply something i hope to remember from ubuntu |
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20:35 | <lelebart> | error: no such partition (wtf?) |
20:36 | <nsadmin> | ls (hd0,msdos5)/ |
20:36 | <nsadmin> | try that |
20:37 | <ring1> | lelebart, live cd http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/ |
20:37 | <lelebart> | doin ls it reurns (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (fd0) |
20:37 | <sney> | don't most pc bioses refuse to boot logical partitions? |
20:37 | <lelebart> | ring1: that live failed booting :( |
20:38 | <lelebart> | sney: so, that could be the problem |
20:38 | <nsadmin> | sney, maybe... but once a boot loader is loaded, then the bios is factored out as a limiting factor |
20:39 | <lelebart> | indeed |
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20:39 | <sney> | my experience with logical partitions is pretty limited since I always manage to find extra disks |
20:39 | <sney> | speaking of which, since this is an old pc, maybe running a hd diagnostic is a good idea if you're stuck |
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20:40 | <aura> | hiya |
20:40 | <retrospectacus> | hello |
20:40 | <lelebart> | sney: with parted magic afaik the hd is old, but helthy |
20:40 | <dvs> | bah humbug! |
20:40 | <aura> | sorry to bother y'all but a problem has me completely stumped |
20:40 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, try insmod part_msdos |
20:41 | <aura> | in 2 words ALSA java |
20:41 | <nsadmin> | alsa and also java? |
20:41 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: ok, no errors returned, nothig returned |
20:41 | <aura> | java locking alsa to the first java applet you load and nothing else |
20:42 | <nsadmin> | ok, then try this |
20:42 | <lelebart> | nsadmin WAIT |
20:42 | <lelebart> | i mistyped a space before |
20:42 | <aura> | resulting in you having no sound whatsoever |
20:42 | <lelebart> | damn, error: no such partition |
20:43 | <aura> | looked all over the net and found no real solution |
20:43 | <nsadmin> | so it's gettting a partition spec from somewhere and that partition is non existant |
20:43 | <aura> | was hoping somebody here may have a suggestion |
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20:43 | <lelebart> | ls (hd0,msdos1) error: unknows filesystem |
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20:43 | <nsadmin> | can you get java to use jack? |
20:44 | <aura> | not sure how |
20:44 | <nsadmin> | ok, you probably don't want to set all that up anyway |
20:44 | <lelebart> | ls (hd0) error: unknown filesystem |
20:45 | <nsadmin> | (hd0) should refer to the whole disk |
20:45 | <lelebart> | not sure if my pc is trolling me |
20:46 | <aura> | better than no sound at work |
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20:46 | <nsadmin> | try ls (hd0, |
20:46 | <nsadmin> | then hit tab a coupla times |
20:46 | <lelebart> | autofill? let's try |
20:46 | <lelebart> | nothing |
20:46 | <nsadmin> | it doesn't seem to see your ext partition or your logical |
20:47 | <lelebart> | but parted image can see it |
20:47 | <nsadmin> | hmm. |
20:47 | <lelebart> | but super grub 2 disk not |
20:47 | <nsadmin> | I wonder if they're seeing the same drives |
20:48 | <lelebart> | mmh |
20:48 | <nsadmin> | do you have more than one drive connected? |
20:48 | <lelebart> | i've only this hd |
20:48 | <lelebart> | but, but but |
20:48 | <lelebart> | it's ide <-> sata |
20:48 | <lelebart> | because i didn't found any ide hdd |
20:49 | <lelebart> | but i had an ide <-> sata adaptor |
20:49 | <nsadmin> | ok, what do you have as a sata controller? |
20:49 | <nsadmin> | had? |
20:49 | <lelebart> | had => now in use |
20:49 | <abrotman> | holy enter batman |
20:50 | <lelebart> | there're the ide cable and the power one, this card, the hd |
20:50 | <nsadmin> | abrotman, I'm stuck here... a little help? |
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20:52 | <abrotman> | help with what? |
20:52 | <abrotman> | i just see stuff flying by! |
20:52 | <nsadmin> | his boot setup |
20:52 | <abrotman> | i need more info |
20:53 | <nsadmin> | so, he has grub2 and it can't see sda5 |
20:53 | <nsadmin> | only sda1 |
20:53 | <abrotman> | eh .. that's not normal .. what's the filesystem on sda5? |
20:53 | <abrotman> | and which version of grub" |
20:53 | <nsadmin> | other things can see sda5 tho |
20:53 | <lelebart> | abrotman it's ext4 |
20:53 | <nsadmin> | seems to be grub2 |
20:53 | <abrotman> | is this squeeze's grub2? |
20:53 | <lelebart> | nsadmin: http://h30094.www3.hp.com/buynowall_assets/Etilize/front/1011209669.jpg <-- the "card" |
20:54 | <abrotman> | are sda1 and sda5 on the same physical disk ? |
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20:54 | <lelebart> | abrotman it's the latest stable i found 6.0.4 i386 |
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20:55 | <nsadmin> | me, I can't exactly tell... he says there's only one physical disk connected, which is a sata connected to an ide with a pata <>sata converter device |
20:55 | <lelebart> | abrotman: maybe this couuld help: http://pastebin.com/qK9KeVnH |
20:56 | <abrotman> | okay |
20:56 | <abrotman> | ? |
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20:56 | <lelebart> | abrotman it's the resul of Boot Info Script 0.60 with the partito table |
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20:57 | <lelebart> | *result *partition |
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20:57 | <nsadmin> | I'm not sure yet if the filesystem is a problem... grub seeing the partition is the first problem, then what happens when it can see it, we don't know yet |
20:58 | <abrotman> | lelebart: did you try the supergrub cd ? |
20:58 | <nsadmin> | I think that's what he is trying and what can't see sda5 |
20:59 | <lelebart> | btw, before, with another sata hd -and the same adaptor- i was running win xp |
20:59 | <lelebart> | abrotman: yes, it failed, no so fouund |
21:00 | <nsadmin> | wait, way before he says he can boot if he uses a boot or rescue disk |
21:00 | <lelebart> | abrotman: super grub disk 0.9726 and super grub2 disk 1.98s1 |
21:00 | <nsadmin> | is that right? |
21:00 | <lelebart> | i can boot with parted magic, debian live failed |
21:01 | <abrotman> | lelebart: did you try dropping to a shell and using fdisk to list partitions? |
21:02 | <lelebart> | no, let's try with the debian live: while failing prompted a shell |
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21:02 | <nsadmin> | how large is the drive itself? |
21:03 | <lelebart> | 160GiB |
21:03 | <nsadmin> | ok, do you have any idea what kind of partition table is on it? |
21:03 | <nsadmin> | I'm thinking it's probably msdos, since we see some stuff |
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21:03 | <lelebart> | no idea. msdos? |
21:04 | <nsadmin> | that's the one with 4 primary partitions and can have an extended partition to contain logicals |
21:04 | <lelebart> | there were windows xp ages ago, then it becames just a archive hdd |
21:05 | <nsadmin> | willing to start over? got data on this thing yet, or is it a new install? |
21:05 | <lelebart> | damn sda2 is extended |
21:05 | <lelebart> | live running, shell |
21:06 | <lelebart> | user@debian:~$ |
21:06 | <nsadmin> | try cat /proc/partitions |
21:06 | <nsadmin> | don't paste that, just try it |
21:07 | <lelebart> | dunno ho to paste, i have no graphic ui |
21:07 | <lelebart> | ~ now |
21:07 | <nsadmin> | ok, we'll get to solving that a bit later |
21:07 | <lelebart> | ok, i have all |
21:08 | <lelebart> | maybe i burned the no.gui image ^^ |
21:08 | <nsadmin> | so, how many lines is that? or, cat /proc/partitions | wc -l |
21:08 | <lelebart> | sda, sda1,2,5,6 loop0 |
21:08 | <abrotman> | wiatwhat |
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21:08 | <dvs> | it's "whatwhatwhaaaaat?" |
21:09 | <nsadmin> | sargent bilko? |
21:09 | <dvs> | South Park |
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21:09 | <abrotman> | almost the same |
21:09 | <lelebart> | where the hell is the pipe in a standard kb, not italian? |
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21:10 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, so this disk sees everything |
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21:10 | <lelebart> | 8 |
21:10 | <lelebart> | yup |
21:10 | <abrotman> | 8 indeed |
21:10 | <nsadmin> | above enter key? |
21:11 | <lelebart> | found yes, somewhre above there yes |
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21:11 | <lelebart> | and with this magic number? |
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21:12 | <lelebart> | you all know that i'm officially a newbie |
21:12 | <nsadmin> | that number is the number of lines (you mean 8?) |
21:12 | <abrotman> | officially? have a certificate? |
21:12 | <lelebart> | ~ | wc -l retunrs 8 |
21:12 | <nsadmin> | even better... the teeshirt! |
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21:13 | <lelebart> | yeeah, i've gazzilion of t-shirts! |
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21:13 | <lelebart> | not sure, whre to get such certificate? ;P |
21:14 | <nsadmin> | you get a cow brand on your forehead |
21:14 | <nsadmin> | kinda hurts... kinda permanent... |
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21:14 | <nsadmin> | probably don't want that |
21:14 | <lelebart> | it could be useful, i play drum |
21:15 | <nsadmin> | not cowBELL |
21:15 | <lelebart> | i could spare those 15euros |
21:15 | <lelebart> | i read cowbell instead a cow brand |
21:16 | <lelebart> | :'( |
21:16 | * | lelebart is a reading failure |
21:16 | <lelebart> | whait, can i do something like update-grub? |
21:16 | <lelebart> | *whait |
21:17 | <lelebart> | *wait |
21:19 | <nsadmin> | maybe |
21:19 | <nsadmin> | when you just boot, do you get thru grub? |
21:20 | <lelebart> | i get .. mhh.. welcome to grub! (don't remeber...) grub recover> |
21:20 | <nsadmin> | if you're a drummer, watch this... try to count your way thru ithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYrxJT5oWnA |
21:21 | <lelebart> | too many tabs, ff crashed |
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21:22 | <nsadmin> | err s/ithttp/it http/ |
21:22 | <lelebart> | no, i grabbed thie right uri |
21:23 | <arcangel> | hola |
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21:26 | <lelebart> | nsadmin o.O |
21:27 | <lelebart> | [spam] our demo: http://soundcloud.com/lelebart/sets/first-k |
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21:28 | <abrotman> | soundcloud .. hrm |
21:29 | <abrotman> | nope, wrong place |
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21:29 | <lelebart> | abrotman also bandcamp archive last.fm myspace.. |
21:29 | <nsadmin> | lelebart, so you get into grub, and then it gives you a prompt after telling you what it can't find? |
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21:30 | <lelebart> | nsadmin how i can get into grub |
21:30 | <lelebart> | i forget hot to chroot |
21:30 | <nsadmin> | you have to mount some stuff first |
21:30 | <lelebart> | aaaaah true |
21:31 | <nsadmin> | like your / and the /dev, /proc and something else |
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21:31 | <lelebart> | there were a wiki out thre |
21:31 | <victor> | hello. can anyone please help me configure my wireless card. iwconfig prints no wireless extensions |
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21:31 | <nsadmin> | victor, maybe you need firmware? |
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21:32 | <victor> | the firmware was installed when i installed debian. i look into the details of the firmware and my wireless chipset is supported. so the firmware is installed |
21:32 | * | lelebart is reading http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover |
21:33 | <victor> | i just cant see or connect to any AP's via the gnome network applet |
21:35 | <abrotman> | lelebart: no, not what i thought it was .. |
21:35 | <lelebart> | abrotman tell me |
21:36 | <abrotman> | no |
21:36 | <lelebart> | :( |
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21:37 | * | lelebart is reading http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino |
21:42 | <lelebart> | ok guys/girls. i tried to chroot and restore grub. failed. |
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21:43 | <lelebart> | GRUB loading. \n Welcome to GRUB! \n\n error: no such partition. \n Entering rescue mode...\n grub rescue> |
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21:49 | <lelebart> | ages ago i used GAG --> http://gag.sourceforge.net/ |
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21:57 | <yudinsyah> | pagi all |
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22:34 | <lelebart^away> | nsadmin, abrotman: super grub2 disk sees only hd0,1! arrrr but with enable PATA support it sees the debian! eureka! |
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22:36 | <kop> | lelebart^away: Is it a pata disk? If not then that sounds like it could be a bios setting issue. |
22:37 | <lelebart^away> | kop it's a sata hd, but connected with a ide<->sata adaptor |
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22:37 | <abrotman> | that'd be pata |
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22:37 | <lelebart> | btw, stucked with graphic |
22:38 | <lelebart> | but now i know how to work: 1) configure grub for pata -don't know how-; 2) remove the graphical boot |
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22:47 | <DAKAR> | hola |
22:47 | <DAKAR> | aqui es tema libre?? |
22:48 | <lelebart> | nsadmin, abrotman: it seems an old grub2 bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/436101 |
22:48 | <DAKAR> | me leen? |
22:49 | <abrotman> | this isn't ubuntu ? |
22:49 | <abrotman> | !es |
22:49 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
22:49 | <lelebart> | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530357 |
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22:49 | <abrotman> | lelebart: isn't that fixed in squeeze? |
22:50 | <lelebart> | abrotman: it sholud be, so (mine) it's another issue :( |
22:50 | <abrotman> | okay |
22:51 | <lelebart> | abrotman: btw with sg2d (super grub2 disk) i can boot with the pata support. but debian crash with the graphic. |
22:52 | <lelebart> | so i'm googlin how to configure grub in such way |
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22:53 | <lelebart> | set root=ata0,5 |
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22:55 | <lelebart> | quiet nosplash for disabling plymouth? |
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23:04 | <scientes> | http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/firmware-linux-nonfree/filelist |
23:04 | <scientes> | doesn't work |
23:05 | <scientes> | [ 9.816000] microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin |
23:05 | <scientes> | [ 9.871318] microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin |
23:05 | <scientes> | im trying to address that error |
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23:59 | <wicked0> | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77744&p=427209#p427209 |
23:59 | <wicked0> | can someone help me my apt? |
23:59 | <wicked0> | please? |
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