| --- | Log | opened Sat Mar 31 00:00:07 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Sat Mar 31 2012 |
| 00:00 | <DragonDon> | you using synaptic? |
| 00:00 | <six|dicks> | no |
| 00:00 | <six|dicks> | apt-get |
| 00:00 | <six|dicks> | I try to work in the cmd when I can |
| 00:00 | <DragonDon> | tried the --force switch? or maybe thats for remove.... |
| 00:01 | <Nekomata> | anyone uses mepis repo in debian stable? |
| 00:01 | <six|dicks> | yeah I tried that for apt-get --force install gnome |
| 00:01 | <six|dicks> | didnt work at all |
| 00:01 | <six|dicks> | w/e KDE here I come |
| 00:01 | <DragonDon> | what error message wording did you get again? |
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| 00:07 | <Nekomata> | ANYONE KNOWS IF MEPIS REPOSITORIES WORKS OK IN DEBIAN SQUEEZE |
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| 00:08 | * | DragonDon covers ears |
| 00:08 | <DragonDon> | damn. keep it down eh? |
| 00:08 | <Nekomata> | i knew some one would listen :D |
| 00:08 | <DragonDon> | yeah, to someone being annoying :/ |
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| 00:08 | <Nekomata> | |: |
| 00:12 | <Nekomata> | thats not the support i payed (jk) |
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| 00:14 | <Nekomata> | nvm |
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| 02:49 | * | brando753 is away: I'm busy, will be back later, flag my name if you need me |
| 02:50 | <EmleyMoor> | Any way I can get some help with tracking down an error in psi or one of its dependencies? It makes a mistake on users in the roster with a \ in the JID. It doesn't freeze or crash. |
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| 02:51 | <EmleyMoor> | Just out of interest I am going to see if the Windows version is affected... but other than that, will need guidance |
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| 03:14 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm having trouble getting my WIN7 VM to access my samba shares... |
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| 03:16 | <EmleyMoor> | I suspect the Win7 setup may be to blame |
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| 03:30 | <EmleyMoor> | Phew, sorted that... |
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| 03:36 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... Windows psi not affected... |
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| 03:36 | <EmleyMoor> | Er, yes it is |
| 03:39 | <EmleyMoor> | What's a good way to track down what a program is actually doing? Seeing each line of source as the program goes would do it, but I guess that's hard. I can recompile packages as necessary, if it helps |
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| 04:05 | <EmleyMoor> | callgrind output from psi shows rosterItemAdded happening four times - one of them must surely involve the mistake - but I really need finer detail. |
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| 04:08 | <valdyn> | EmleyMoor: why arent you using a debugger? |
| 04:08 | <EmleyMoor> | valdyn: If there exists a debugger which will give me useful output, I will. |
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| 04:10 | <EmleyMoor> | I've stopped doing so because the output was meaningless to me and probably not helpful to the problem - though I did submit it, to no response |
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| 04:22 | <EmleyMoor> | valdyn: If you can direct me how to get useful information, I'll willingly try it |
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| 04:23 | <loka> | llllllllllllll |
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| 04:29 | <kikinovak> | Hi. I'm running Debian Squeeze (stable). The backports repo is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list. I'm experimenting with /etc/apt/preferences to get the following behaviour : install some defined packages (say, package1, package2 and package3 always from Backports) and all other packages from Stable repos. I can't seem to find the right syntax. |
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| 04:30 | <kikinovak> | ... thus, when I do 'aptitude install package0 package 1 package2 package3 package4', it results automagically in package0 and package4 being installed from stable repos, and package1, package2 and package3 being drawn from backports. |
| 04:30 | <kikinovak> | Any way to achieve that? |
| 04:30 | <kikinovak> | And yes, I've read man apt_preferences, but I'm still not able to do it. |
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| 04:53 | <videb> | привет всем=) |
| 04:53 | <videb> | никак не хочет ставиться nvidia-glx-version{20100522+1} |
| 04:54 | <videb> | хотя стоит вроде и ядрышко, и source |
| 04:54 | <videb> | и nvidia-xconfig не видится в репах |
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| 04:55 | <videb> | идеи подскажете? |
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| 04:58 | <perry> | hi anybody have experience of gtk programming , please share with me some valuable time |
| 04:59 | <videb> | hi there |
| 04:59 | <videb> | I haven't any chance to install nvidia-glx-version{20100522+1} |
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| 05:00 | <videb> | by the way, source and kernel from nvidia have installed. and nvidia-xconfig refuse to appear.. |
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| 05:03 | <kikinovak> | videb: aptitude install nvidia-xconfig :o) |
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| 05:04 | <videb> | nvidia-xconfig package isn't see in repository at all! |
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| 05:10 | <gnugr> | !tell videb -about nvidia m-a |
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| 06:05 | <kikinovak> | Hi. I have the stable nvidia-kernel-dkms (v. 195.x) installed and configured. I'd like to upgrade this to version 275.x from Backports. Only I can't seem to do it. |
| 06:05 | <kikinovak> | aptitude -t squeeze-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms won't do anything. |
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| 06:05 | <kikinovak> | any idea what's going on ? |
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| 06:06 | <benjr> | every time ive plugged in a usb stick its popped up automatically, this time it hasnt, and i cant see it listed when i type "mount", what do i do? |
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| 06:09 | <gnugr> | kikinovak:you sure have in /etc/apt/sources.list "contrib non-free"? |
| 06:10 | <kikinovak> | gnugr: yes |
| 06:11 | <kikinovak> | when I invoke that command, it keeps installing the "stable" version (195.x) |
| 06:11 | <kikinovak> | don't know what's going on here |
| 06:12 | <gnugr> | !nvidia dkms kikinovak |
| 06:12 | <gnugr> | !nvidia dkms |
| 06:12 | <dpkg> | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>. |
| 06:13 | <kikinovak> | gnugr: you're answering in detail a question I didn't ask. |
| 06:13 | <gnugr> | ok |
| 06:13 | <kikinovak> | I *do* know how to install NVidia drivers (and do this all the time on client's machines). |
| 06:13 | <gnugr> | sorry |
| 06:14 | <kikinovak> | But what I can't seem to do is upgrade these to the latest version from Backports. |
| 06:14 | <kikinovak> | Don't know what's happening. |
| 06:14 | <kikinovak> | I do have the relevant line in sources.list : |
| 06:15 | <gnugr> | you mean you done update/upgrade and you don't have these packages? |
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| 06:15 | <kikinovak> | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 06:15 | <kikinovak> | gnugr: exactly |
| 06:15 | <kikinovak> | and even explicitly specifying -t squeeze-backports makes nothing happen |
| 06:15 | <kikinovak> | this is a mystery |
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| 06:16 | <gnugr> | when you run "apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-dkms" what you get |
| 06:17 | <kikinovak> | paste it here or somewhere in a pastebin site ? |
| 06:17 | <kikinovak> | it's seven lines |
| 06:17 | <gnugr> | if its more than one line yes, use pastebin |
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| 06:18 | <kikinovak> | ok one sec |
| 06:18 | <gnugr> | use paste.debian.net |
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| 06:18 | <it9001> | Hey |
| 06:19 | <kikinovak> | gnugr: http://pastebin.com/Ja9mWEy0 |
| 06:19 | <kikinovak> | (saw it too late) |
| 06:20 | <gnugr> | its installed |
| 06:20 | <kikinovak> | yes. And I want to upgrade the installed version with the one (v. 280.something) from Backports |
| 06:21 | <kikinovak> | And I can't seem to do that. |
| 06:21 | <kikinovak> | Though Backports are configured. |
| 06:21 | <gnugr> | try to remove it first and them reinstall it from backports |
| 06:22 | <kikinovak> | Already tried that... it keeps installing the old version |
| 06:22 | <gnugr> | i c |
| 06:22 | <gnugr> | hm |
| 06:22 | <gnugr> | what kernel you use? |
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| 06:22 | <kikinovak> | 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 06:23 | <gnugr> | you must get the latest kernel from backports to get it |
| 06:23 | <kikinovak> | ahhhhhhhhhh |
| 06:23 | <kikinovak> | i see |
| 06:24 | <kikinovak> | in a word : better use the old driver |
| 06:24 | <gnugr> | you can get linux-image-3.2.0 from backports |
| 06:24 | <kikinovak> | since i'm doing this on production machines |
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| 06:51 | <ZeeAap> | Hi. I have a OfficeJet 8500 printer from HP. I installed hplip, it finds my printer to wireless, but won't let me add it, because it isn't configured in CUPS yet. (I have no clue how to use CUPS, it doesn't even met me login. When I do loging with my user and pass, it says printer adding forbidden. |
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| 06:51 | <Paloma> | hello |
| 06:51 | <Paloma> | !!!! |
| 06:51 | <dpkg> | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
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| 06:52 | <Paloma> | podeis hablar en español???? es que siempre hablais en inglés!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:52 | <grandie> | ZeeAap: because you need to be the root user in CUPS |
| 06:53 | <Paloma> | noooooo |
| 06:53 | <movl> | !es |
| 06:53 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 06:53 | <Paloma> | ok |
| 06:54 | <ZeeAap> | I can't login to cups with root, as I chose not to allow root login at debian install. So when I access cups in webbrowser, how can I use the sudo command there then? |
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| 06:54 | <Paloma> | otra vez en inglés????????? |
| 06:54 | <movl> | #_@ |
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| 06:54 | <movl> | Paloma: this is an english channel, period |
| 06:54 | <Paloma> | jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 06:55 | <grandie> | ZeeAap: I don't think you can, you need to be root |
| 06:55 | <movl> | !op Paloma |
| 06:55 | <Paloma> | pues yo igual hablo en español |
| 06:55 | <ZeeAap> | So then I have a problem don't i? |
| 06:55 | <grandie> | I believe so! |
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| 06:56 | <gnugr> | !es Paloma |
| 06:56 | <dpkg> | Paloma: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
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| 06:56 | <ZeeAap> | So how do people who choose this (recommended) option during debian setup and install from ISO, install a printer? |
| 06:57 | <Paloma> | es que ahí no hay nadie conectado |
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| 06:59 | <ivo888> | Hi, |
| 07:00 | <ivo888> | I have virtualbox OSE, but there isn`t usb support in my windows xp :( |
| 07:00 | <ivo888> | how can i fix it? |
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| 07:01 | <movl> | AFAIK, only the commercial version has USB support |
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| 07:03 | <ivo888> | you mean paid version? |
| 07:03 | <movl> | yes |
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| 07:03 | <movl> | but I'm not sure, google it |
| 07:03 | <gnugr> | ivo888:try for help on #vbox on irc.freenode.net |
| 07:03 | <ivo888> | thank you |
| 07:03 | <ivo888> | i`ll check |
| 07:03 | <ivo888> | bye |
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| 07:05 | <ayaka> | how to know which program has connected or tried to visit network |
| 07:05 | <kikinovak> | movl: wrong info about VirtualBox. ivo888 should have installed the (free as in beer) VB extensions, that's it. |
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| 07:06 | <movl> | kikinovak: thanks. like I said, I wasn't sure |
| 07:06 | <kikinovak> | movl: I've described the setup here http://www.microlinux.fr/blog/?page_id=318 |
| 07:07 | <kikinovak> | movl: though I have to admit the info is quite well hidden |
| 07:07 | <kikinovak> | on the VB site I mean |
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| 07:08 | <ZeeAap> | Hi. I have a OfficeJet 8500 printer from HP. I installed hplip, it finds my printer to wireless, but won't let me add it, because it isn't configured in CUPS yet. (I have no clue how to use CUPS, it doesn't even met me login. When I do loging with my user and pass, it says printer adding forbidden. |
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| 07:09 | <ayaka> | ZeeAap visit localhost:631 |
| 07:10 | <movl> | ZeeAap: why do you repeat a question we already answered to? |
| 07:10 | <movl> | s/to// |
| 07:10 | <ZeeAap> | Because it isn't solved yet |
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| 07:11 | <ZeeAap> | I can't access it without root, and I have root disabled for security reasons, It's not possible to give in root password in CUPS through webbrowser, as root is disabled |
| 07:11 | <movl> | well, then. figure out how to login as root, as that is what you need |
| 07:11 | <ZeeAap> | I'm sue I'm not the only one with this problem |
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| 07:12 | <ZeeAap> | If I would be able to figure it out, I wouldn't ask it here. I really have no idea how to log in as root without using sudo |
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| 07:14 | <movl> | http://www.debianadmin.com/setup-cups-common-unix-printing-system-server-and-client-in-debian.html |
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| 07:19 | <kourosh3032> | hi |
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| 07:33 | <ayaka> | is it impossible that control grub2 on the disk by a ethernet(or i should said remote computer) |
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| 07:36 | <kourosh3032> | hi |
| 07:36 | <kourosh3032> | is any body here |
| 07:36 | <kourosh3032> | ? |
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| 07:37 | <ayaka> | !ask |
| 07:37 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 07:37 | <movl> | kourosh3032: no, we're all gone |
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| 07:38 | <kourosh3032> | i have debian in dell inspiron n5110 core i7 |
| 07:38 | <kourosh3032> | my FN + F4 and F5 dont work |
| 07:38 | <kourosh3032> | why? |
| 07:39 | <kourosh3032> | it should be up and down brithness display |
| 07:39 | <movl> | kourosh3032: what are those key combos supposed to do? |
| 07:39 | <movl> | oh |
| 07:39 | <movl> | what desktopenvironment? |
| 07:39 | <kourosh3032> | for brithness |
| 07:39 | <kourosh3032> | gnome |
| 07:39 | <kourosh3032> | i am in gnome |
| 07:40 | <movl> | gnome 3? |
| 07:40 | <kourosh3032> | yes |
| 07:41 | <kourosh3032> | ? |
| 07:41 | <movl> | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116597 |
| 07:42 | <devil> | kourosh3032: xbacklight can be a workaround until you fixed it |
| 07:42 | <movl> | simple as googling 'gnome 3 brightness' |
| 07:42 | <kourosh3032> | ok |
| 07:42 | <kourosh3032> | thank you |
| 07:42 | <movl> | yw |
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| 07:51 | <ZeeAap> | Is it possible to install fonts wor windows? |
| 07:52 | <ZeeAap> | for* |
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| 07:53 | <ZeeAap> | nm found it already |
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| 08:41 | <ayaka> | does all modern can be recognize as a tty |
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| 08:43 | <ompaul> | ayaka: you have a mistake in spelling there |
| 08:43 | <ompaul> | or in sense |
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| 08:44 | <movl> | or a lacking word |
| 08:45 | <ayaka> | ompaul yes, an spelling error, the one provide 56 kbps thoght wire telephone |
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| 08:46 | <ompaul> | ayaka: modem, ok, are all modems seen as a tty ... is your question |
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| 08:47 | <ayaka> | yes |
| 08:47 | <ompaul> | ayaka: yes, please read: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Modem-HOWTO/ |
| 08:47 | <ompaul> | ayaka: or at least it should |
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| 08:48 | <ayaka> | then can i use a modem as tty, in fact this a mobile, i want to use it control pc |
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| 08:50 | <ompaul> | ayaka: in that format the tty is really slow |
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| 08:50 | <ompaul> | if you can get high speed you might want usb and so on |
| 08:50 | <ompaul> | ayaka: also there are tools to ssh |
| 08:50 | <ompaul> | from phones |
| 08:51 | <it9001> | Sheesh |
| 08:51 | <movl> | ompaul: that would be an exercise in pain |
| 08:51 | <ayaka> | ompaul yes,but usb has a little problem |
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| 08:51 | <it9001> | guys can i have some help |
| 08:51 | <it9001> | How do i install themes on debian? |
| 08:51 | <ompaul> | movl: you think |
| 08:51 | <movl> | it9001: what desktop? |
| 08:52 | <it9001> | gnome 2 |
| 08:52 | <movl> | ompaul: yes |
| 08:52 | <ompaul> | movl: I do it all the time :) |
| 08:52 | <movl> | on 56k? |
| 08:52 | <ompaul> | movl: I've done it on 2400 |
| 08:52 | <ompaul> | ssh does not need a lot |
| 08:52 | <movl> | with ssh? |
| 08:52 | <ompaul> | yes |
| 08:52 | <ompaul> | and 9600 |
| 08:53 | <it9001> | movl: Gnome 2.... |
| 08:53 | <ompaul> | and 33. and higher and nowadays |
| 08:53 | <ayaka> | i don't care speed, just need it work |
| 08:53 | <movl> | it9001: preferences-> appearance |
| 08:53 | <movl> | or something |
| 08:53 | <it9001> | Yes but thats not how i install them... |
| 08:54 | <it9001> | ik how to change them using the default themes... |
| 08:54 | <ompaul> | ayaka: you have a phone, it has a name, it has a data plan i.e. you get some data allowance |
| 08:54 | <movl> | it9001: http://www.google.com/search?q=gnome+2+install+themes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a |
| 08:54 | <ompaul> | ayaka: this is not for here talk in -offtopic |
| 08:54 | <ayaka> | ompaul ok |
| 08:55 | <ayaka> | but the debian side, is in topic |
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| 08:57 | <it9001> | ah |
| 08:57 | <it9001> | i need a theme engine for this theme... |
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| 08:58 | <ayaka> | it9001 some theme is just part of an theme,it maybe a part of icon |
| 08:58 | <ayaka> | you need download they all |
| 08:58 | <it9001> | in english please.. |
| 08:58 | <it9001> | x |
| 08:58 | <it9001> | xD* |
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| 09:03 | <it9001> | found the theme engine |
| 09:03 | <it9001> | cheers |
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| 09:10 | <benjr> | every time ive plugged in a usb stick its popped up automatically, this time it hasnt, and i cant see it listed when i type "mount", what do i do? |
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| 09:11 | <ayaka> | benjr ls /dev |
| 09:11 | <ayaka> | paste them |
| 09:11 | <benjr> | wow theres a lot |
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| 09:12 | <benjr> | ayaka, http://paste2.org/p/1961657 |
| 09:13 | <ayaka> | maybe it is sdb1 or sdd1 |
| 09:14 | <devil> | benjr: fdiak -l will tell you what device it is |
| 09:14 | <ayaka> | i am not sure which usb stick you want to mount,plase paste mount |
| 09:14 | <devil> | benjr: you can mount with pmount like: pmount /dev/foo |
| 09:14 | <devil> | s/fdiak/fdisk |
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| 09:16 | <benjr> | devil, ah i can tell from fdisk -l that it must be sdb1 |
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| 09:17 | <ayaka> | mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt or somewhere |
| 09:19 | <benjr> | devil, i just installed pmount and tried that, but user cant read the folder onyl root, so i cant use gui, i think ill try just the mount way not pmount |
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| 09:19 | <devil> | hm, pmount never failed me |
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| 09:20 | <benjr> | devil, oh it worked, but only when i was browsing the folder as root, so i cant use gui on cli |
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| 09:24 | <movl> | benjr: cli is better almost all the time :) |
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| 09:26 | <benjr> | movl, i wanted to pick some photos off, easier ina gui when i can see them rather then just file name |
| 09:26 | <devil> | benjr: imagemagick to the rescue :) |
| 09:26 | <movl> | +1 |
| 09:27 | * | benjr hits up google |
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| 09:28 | <movl> | benjr: that's the spirit |
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| 09:34 | <benjr> | would imagemagick be suitable for bulk resizing my photos? |
| 09:34 | <benjr> | batch* |
| 09:34 | <movl> | benjr: yeah |
| 09:35 | <movl> | man convert |
| 09:35 | <devil> | benjr: you want to look at convert |
| 09:35 | <devil> | and it's got a viewer for terminal as well |
| 09:36 | <DragonDon> | question on resizing the /usr partition VM device. What is the best method? I did choose 'dynamically allocated' when I set up the Vm initially. |
| 09:36 | <benjr> | i nevre thought you could look at pictures in cli, is there anyhting ytou cant do cli? |
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| 09:39 | <movl> | benjr: you can even watch movies |
| 09:40 | <devil> | some :) |
| 09:40 | <devil> | not flash-crap |
| 09:41 | <movl> | devil: if you save the flv and play it with mplayer... |
| 09:41 | <movl> | or convert to ogv |
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| 09:41 | <devil> | I am not into flash unless absolutely needed, so i never tried |
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| 09:42 | <movl> | me neither, but it is possible |
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| 09:43 | <movl> | youtube-dl and mplayer |
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| 09:44 | <ayaka> | movl thank you |
| 09:45 | <ayaka> | if don't install grub2 on mbr and / in not ins master partition, can i boot it(maybe ms boot on mbr) |
| 09:45 | <movl> | ayaka: for what? |
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| 09:45 | <movl> | you mean / is extended? |
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| 09:47 | <ayaka> | movl the question about modem |
| 09:47 | <ayaka> | movl yep in extended |
| 09:47 | <movl> | oh |
| 09:48 | <movl> | no, root must be primary |
| 09:48 | <movl> | Linux can't boot from an extended partition |
| 09:48 | <movl> | it's a limitation of hardware |
| 09:48 | <ayaka> | movl but if i use grub2, it can? |
| 09:49 | <movl> | the bootloader has nothing to do with this |
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| 09:51 | <ayaka> | really, grub2 can load kernel to men then let kernel control pc |
| 09:51 | <ayaka> | movl really? |
| 09:51 | <movl> | ayaka: really |
| 09:52 | <movl> | it's x86's and amd64's filthy design |
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| 09:52 | <movl> | at the very least you can try with a separate /boot |
| 09:52 | <movl> | but it HAS to be primary |
| 09:54 | <ayaka> | movl , the problem is just all grub2 modules must be in primary or kernel must |
| 09:55 | <movl> | the kernel |
| 09:55 | <movl> | I try to tell you that grun has nothing to do with this |
| 09:55 | <movl> | *grub |
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| 09:55 | <movl> | the BIOS looks for a primary partition to load the OS from |
| 09:56 | <ayaka> | movl i see, but but why grub2 can't fix, bios load grub2 then grub2 load kernel |
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| 09:57 | <movl> | ayaka: what's your partition setup? |
| 09:58 | <ayaka> | movl forget, just a concept question |
| 09:58 | <movl> | look |
| 09:58 | <movl> | grub relies on the BIOS for stuff |
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| 09:59 | <movl> | and the PC BIOS has no idea how to boot from extended |
| 10:00 | <ayaka> | movl i see |
| 10:00 | <movl> | so on x86, all operating systems that support it (linux, bsd, mac, solaris, windows) require a primary partition to boot from |
| 10:01 | <movl> | you will get "invalid device requested" from grub |
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| 10:01 | <ayaka> | movl i see, but i wonder if i don't install grub2 into mbr, how pc load grub2 |
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| 10:02 | <juanico> | uhyuhy |
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| 10:02 | <movl> | ayaka: you need something in the MBR |
| 10:02 | <movl> | then you can chainload |
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| 10:04 | <ayaka> | movl does ms bootload can do that |
| 10:04 | <movl> | chainloading? |
| 10:06 | <movl> | here |
| 10:06 | <movl> | http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/partitions.html |
| 10:06 | <ayaka> | movl i don't know windows bootload name and don't want to know how it can, just want yes or no |
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| 10:07 | <movl> | the name is ntldr is xp, vista and 7 |
| 10:07 | <movl> | from NT loader |
| 10:07 | <movl> | and I haven't used windows at home since 2005 |
| 10:07 | <movl> | so. use google |
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| 10:09 | <ayaka> | movl thank you |
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| 10:09 | <gnugr> | ayaka: use "/msg dpkg mbr" and "/msg dpkg fixmbr" for infos |
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| 10:10 | <ayaka> | movl do you know welther efi support boot from extence |
| 10:10 | <movl> | gah! |
| 10:10 | <movl> | I tell you for the last time: if it's a PC, it needs to have boot files on a primary partition |
| 10:10 | <movl> | efi helps only with partition sizes |
| 10:11 | <movl> | and their limits as imposed by braindead designers |
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| 10:12 | <ayaka> | gnugr in fact don't have an actually problem |
| 10:12 | <movl> | ayaka: if you only want to learn, you're probably better using a search engine or -offtopic |
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| 10:13 | <ayaka> | movl so all the concept problem is talked in offtopic |
| 10:13 | <movl> | mainly |
| 10:13 | <movl> | since this is a Debian-specific channel |
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| 10:14 | <ayaka> | movl i see, that confuse me most time |
| 10:14 | <ayaka> | movl gnugr thank you |
| 10:15 | <movl> | yw |
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| 10:21 | <hdb2> | how can I tell what configure flags a package maintainer used when building a package? |
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| 10:22 | <streuner> | dpkg, debian/rules |
| 10:22 | <dpkg> | debian/rules is the makefile used when building a .deb from source, edit it to change compilation options. Be aware that some packages use sophisticated build systems that should be documented in debian/README.source. Also remember to make a new entry in debian/changelog with "~yourname" (for a backport) or "+yourname" (for a recompile) added to the version number. See also <makefile>, <hold>, <package recompile>, <source>. |
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| 10:23 | <hdb2> | streuner: thank you! much appreciated. |
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| 10:55 | <gihad> | Can I get some help installing sun java 6 EE jdk on wheezy ? |
| 10:56 | <gihad> | Is there a secondary repo that I can add to my sources ? |
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| 10:58 | <ayaka> | !tell gihad about java |
| 10:58 | <ayaka> | !tell gihad about wheezy |
| 10:59 | <gihad> | I'm aware of all that, I guess I Will ask in debian-next |
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| 12:00 | <ayaka> | i still can't understand the defaulf group of acl |
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| 12:01 | <valdyn> | ayaka: why not? |
| 12:01 | <ayaka> | does files in the own group in a direction will be change to it |
| 12:02 | <ayaka> | valdyn i don't what is different between a acl of a group |
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| 12:03 | <valdyn> | ayaka: the last 2 lines you typed make no sense |
| 12:03 | <valdyn> | ayaka: a group has no acl, a file or a directory have an acl |
| 12:05 | <ayaka> | valdyn i mean that the different between a group acl of a file |
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| 12:07 | <valdyn> | ayaka: this is what i call language barrier |
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| 12:10 | <movl> | ayaka: http://www.google.com.hk/webhp?hl=zh-CN&sourceid=cnhp#hl=zh-CN&safe=strict&site=webhp&source=hp&q=linux+acl&oq=linux+acl&aq=f&aqi=g5g-m1&aql=&gs_l=hp.3..0l5j0i5.11235l14052l0l15207l9l9l0l0l0l0l143l940l1j7l8l0.frgbld.&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=b166c6c4055df168&biw=1440&bih=759 |
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| 12:15 | <ayaka> | valdyn movl thank you ,opening |
| 12:16 | <ayaka> | movl just open google let me search myself? |
| 12:16 | <movl> | ayaka: sorry? |
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| 12:25 | <ayaka> | movl that link just open google for me, no result |
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| 12:28 | <movl> | search for linux acl then' |
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| 12:29 | <archio> | Where I should ask questions about GTK3 applications in a GTK2 environment? |
| 12:29 | <archio> | *should I |
| 12:30 | <ayaka> | movl i see thank you |
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| 12:39 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]Q;NeQ<NeQ<CZQ<Nl |
| 12:39 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]OxQ;<( |
| 12:39 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]KzQ<NeQ<B] |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]StMpP'M8Q!EsQ= |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]RAN*P8N\PGEBRcNA |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]O0PPK^P@NTP@NcPWK^R,Jt |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]ItS5MvP]L'P/NKP@NdPGNK |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]GORSN#PHL0P@NKP7NePPOu |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]LXRi@v |
| 12:40 | <movl> | whoa |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]SpNfSpH"Q;NeQ<OO |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]O7Q<AnSqNm |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]OxQ;NdQ;@QQr |
| 12:40 | <ayaka> | !flood |
| 12:40 | <dpkg> | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, ask me about <paste> |
| 12:40 | <dl1hr> | cw=Z]Q}NfQ<NeQ<An |
| 12:40 | <ayaka> | !flood dl1hr |
| 12:40 | <movl> | he thinks of himself as a hacker I bet |
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| 12:41 | <dl1hr> | sorry, was testing cwirc and it did something strange my apologies |
| 12:41 | <ayaka> | movl you are hacker, so can you understand what he said |
| 12:41 | <movl> | I'm not :) |
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| 12:44 | <benjr> | how many of the of the dvd iso's do i need to install debian? are any of the 8 optional? |
| 12:44 | <benjr> | was hoping for a single dvd image |
| 12:45 | <Rydekull> | It just depends on how many packages you want on a dvd |
| 12:45 | <Rydekull> | do you have a internet connection where you are installing it? |
| 12:45 | <Rydekull> | that's reasonably fast and reliable? |
| 12:46 | <ayaka> | benjr just dvd 1 |
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| 12:47 | <benjr> | Rydekull, im trying ti guide a friend but i dont have much experience myself, he doesnt have a reasonable net connection, i told him to get the netinstall but he said its giving him an error when he trying to boot the disc, sounds like a corrupt downlaod to me but i thought save any hassle get him to dl a full install |
| 12:47 | <benjr> | does have a reasonable net* |
| 12:47 | <Rydekull> | benjr: well, cd1 or dvd1, depends on what you plan to install really, dvd1 contains more, obviously |
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| 12:48 | <charlie3333> | Hi, does anybody know where I can find the package for squidguard that came with lenny? |
| 12:49 | <benjr> | hell want a gui and most of the standard stuff anyway so im guessing if he only downloads the cd, hell just end up downlaoding most of whats on the dvd later anyway |
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| 12:52 | <stephane> | debian-fr |
| 12:52 | <Rydekull> | no thank you, but you're welcome too |
| 12:52 | <stephane> | excuse me/ error of window |
| 12:53 | <stephane> | /o\ |
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| 13:09 | <lelebart> | hi, how to send email (with lamp) using an external smtp -- how to config sendmail? where's the sendmail.ini? |
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| 13:10 | <valdyn> | lelebart: you dont want sendmail |
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| 13:10 | <valdyn> | !sendmail |
| 13:10 | <dpkg> | Sendmail is one of the older Mail Transfer Agents, configurable using m4 and its own cf language. If you don't know why you want to use sendmail, consider using <postfix> or <exim> instead. Ask me about <mta comparison> for more information. http://www.sendmail.org/ #sendmail on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:11 | <lelebart> | valdyn, thanks. damn. ok, moving to exim |
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| 13:53 | <kop> | lelebart: I prefer postfix. YMMV. |
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| 13:56 | <lelebart> | kop: i just followed this guide to set up exim4 (even if for ubuntu) http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/ . but mails are not send :( |
| 13:56 | <lelebart> | ALERT: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken ... failed! |
| 13:57 | <petemc> | lelebart: what does mainlog say? other than that warning |
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| 13:58 | <lelebart> | petemc: is the maillog in /var/log ? with wich name? |
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| 13:58 | <lelebart> | uh mainlog != mailog :( |
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| 13:58 | <petemc> | lelebart: /var/log/exim4/mainlog |
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| 13:59 | <namopo> | hi, debian doesn't dettect any WiFi network |
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| 14:00 | <babilen> | namopo: Did you configure your wifi adaptor already? |
| 14:00 | <namopo> | i did ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 14:00 | <namopo> | but it didn't work |
| 14:01 | <babilen> | namopo: Ok, lets start from the beginning. What is the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" ? |
| 14:01 | <namopo> | 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100 [8086:4232] |
| 14:01 | <lelebart> | petemc: found :D -> 2012-03-31 19:49:27 1SE2QW-0001nE-So ** root@oste.homeserver R=send_via_live T=live_smtp: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=2574: host smtp.hot.glbdns.$ |
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| 14:03 | <babilen> | namopo: You need to install firmware for that one (firmware-iwlwifi) -- Please non-free sources and install it. |
| 14:03 | <babilen> | !tell namopo -about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 14:04 | <lelebart> | mybe is the # in the password :| |
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| 14:04 | <babilen> | namopo: Essentially make sure that your deb lines end in "main contrib non-free" and install firmare-iwlwifi. (apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi) -- Once you've done that you can reload the module with "modprobe -r iwlagn ; modprobe iwlagn ; dmesg | tail -n 23" -- Please paste the output of the latter command along with that of "iwconfig", "ifconfig -a" to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 14:05 | <petemc> | lelebart: that seems to be you sending a bounce message, look at earlier log entries |
| 14:05 | <babilen> | namopo: You should also be able to scan for networks with "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan ; ifconfig wlan0 down" :) |
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| 14:07 | <namopo> | babilen: yes, it works! thank you so much for your help :) |
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| 14:08 | <namopo> | babilen: can you explain me what happened? |
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| 14:14 | <lelebart> | petemc, http://paste.debian.net/161576/ |
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| 14:16 | <lelebart> | mmh, i fail to auth n live.com. weird |
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| 14:33 | <lelebart> | ok, rebooted now it sends mail (and removed # from password) |
| 14:33 | <lelebart> | now, ho to configure php to use exim? |
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| 14:34 | <lelebart> | is this a alid solution? http://www.kuhnline.com/wp/?p=645 |
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| 15:00 | <dfc> | is anyone reporting any problems with radeon+firefox on debian unstable? I am getting scrambled/corrupted text arteifacts |
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| 15:02 | <sney> | dfc: firefox or iceweasel? |
| 15:02 | <dfc> | sorry. iceweasel |
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| 15:02 | <dfc> | another person from #radeon is also noticing the problem |
| 15:02 | <sney> | is that with the firmware or without |
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| 15:03 | <dfc> | firmware from? |
| 15:03 | <dfc> | im running the free xserver not fglrx or whatever the closed one is |
| 15:03 | <sney> | firmware-linux-nonfree, there are some binary blobs there that radeon needs for full functionality |
| 15:03 | <dfc> | i have those |
| 15:03 | <dfc> | so yes its with firmware. |
| 15:04 | <dfc> | the other user is running iw:10.0.3 im running iceweasel from experimental |
| 15:04 | <sney> | and it's only in iceweasel? do the artifacts appear in any other browsers |
| 15:05 | <dfc> | after iceweasel starts to misbehave other apps get messed up including xterm and roxterm |
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| 15:05 | <dfc> | there is not a lot to go on from the logs |
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| 15:06 | <dfc> | xsession-errors has: |
| 15:06 | <dfc> | Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0xe0008c (Iceweasel) |
| 15:06 | <dfc> | and |
| 15:06 | <dfc> | Window manager warning: Log level 16: STACK_OP_ADD: window 0x2200009 already in stack |
| 15:06 | <sney> | at a glance, http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-radeon does not have a report containing your issue, so it'd be best if you filed a bug |
| 15:07 | <dfc> | sney: i was going to but i did not want to file a bug that says: "screen is scrambled" |
| 15:07 | <dfc> | err, rather that only says... |
| 15:07 | <rbong> | yo- how do i get debian to stop making everything use nano |
| 15:08 | <rbong> | i need to use vim |
| 15:08 | <dfc> | rbong $EDITOR $VISUAL |
| 15:08 | <dfc> | rbong: i think there might be a default editor in /etc/alternative |
| 15:08 | <dfc> | rbong: i think there might be a default editor in /etc/alternatives |
| 15:08 | <dfc> | sney: the other user seems to think its cairo/pango related |
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| 15:25 | <dfc> | sney: apparently its https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47266 |
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| 15:28 | <klon> | hello? |
| 15:28 | <gnugr> | hi |
| 15:29 | <klon> | is ssd devies fully suported under debian 6.0.3? |
| 15:29 | <klon> | ass boot and manin disk? |
| 15:29 | <klon> | is there an complications that are know? |
| 15:29 | <klon> | *known |
| 15:30 | <sney> | klon: fully supported |
| 15:30 | <sney> | I'm using one right now |
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| 15:30 | <klon> | so no risk of damigin it in any way? |
| 15:30 | <sney> | not unless it's an early ssd with ncq problems |
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| 15:31 | <klon> | think its 2gen intel |
| 15:31 | <sney> | it'll be fine |
| 15:31 | <sney> | the ncq problem ones were all small capacity, 16 GB etc |
| 15:32 | <klon> | aah |
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| 15:32 | <klon> | min is 160 ^^ |
| 15:32 | <klon> | mine |
| 15:32 | <sney> | the speed difference is just unreal |
| 15:32 | <klon> | and its uses all the "speed" by default? |
| 15:33 | <sney> | oh yes, that's all hardware |
| 15:33 | <klon> | yeah, noticed when i first bought it |
| 15:33 | <klon> | windows stated in a blink of an eye |
| 15:34 | <sney> | my laptop boots so fast it can't refresh the gpu quickly enough and I get this flash of colour just when X starts |
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| 15:34 | <klon> | i guess thats nice ^^ |
| 15:34 | <namopo> | hi, i install themes but the only thing that changes is the border of the window... |
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| 15:35 | <klon> | inst that what a theme is? |
| 15:35 | <namopo> | klon: it's elementary theme |
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| 15:37 | <klon> | so you ge the same preformanse as you would in windows whiout an configurating? |
| 15:37 | <klon> | whit the ssd. |
| 15:37 | <namopo> | klon, wait i moment. i'll send you a screenshot |
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| 15:38 | <klon> | namopo: sorry, i have no ide, just thought out loud.. |
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| 15:38 | <namopo> | klon: http://imagebin.org/206190 |
| 15:39 | <namopo> | klon: as you can see, it seems as if the theme isn't applied correctly |
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| 15:45 | <lanser> | sney: you said that an ssd is fully supported on Debian Squeeze, but with the kernel 2.6.32 you can't use TRIM, so don't you need to upgrade the kernel to version 2.6.33 or more (since TRIM was added in version 2.6.33) ? |
| 15:46 | <namopo> | i need help. when i apply a them, it isn't applied well... http://imagebin.org/206190 |
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| 15:47 | <klon> | lanser: i read this aswell. how mutch dose this affect the preformanse of the ssD? |
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| 15:48 | <lanser> | klon : it depends on a lot of things, over-provisioning, garbage collection ... really hard to tell |
| 15:48 | <klon> | what does the trim do? |
| 15:48 | <klon> | and is not trim only suported on later drives? |
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| 15:49 | <lanser> | klon : TRIM enables the OS to tell the controller of the ssd that a file has been deleted and that it can clear the blocks that it occupied before on the nand |
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| 15:49 | <klon> | ah |
| 15:50 | <lanser> | klon: it's supported on all drives nowadays |
| 15:50 | <klon> | so i need to update the kernel ot get it to wrok? |
| 15:50 | <klon> | *work |
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| 15:51 | <lanser> | I think so, then you can add the discard option in /etc/fstab |
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| 16:00 | <klon> | lanser: to what kernel? |
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| 16:02 | <Tickrate> | Hi, I need informations about Debian installation |
| 16:02 | <lanser> | klon : any kernel provided that the version is greater than 2.6.33 (or equal) |
| 16:02 | <sney> | Tickrate: well you came to the right place |
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| 16:02 | <sney> | klon, lanser: forgot about TRIM, yes you can use a newer kernel from debian backports (http://backports.debian.org) |
| 16:03 | <Tickrate> | I start installing debian overnight, and the next day I found a corrupted install (no grub, no gnome ...). |
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| 16:04 | <Tickrate> | So I wonder if it was possible that the installation is automatically validated choice |
| 16:04 | <klon> | sney: lanser: know of any hady guide? |
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| 16:05 | <sney> | klon: see the page I linked, it has instructions for installing newer kernels and other packages |
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| 16:05 | <klon> | oh, cheers |
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| 16:07 | <sney> | Tickrate: sorry, I don't understand your question |
| 16:08 | <Tickrate> | During the installation I must select options .. (If I want Grub for example) |
| 16:09 | <Tickrate> | but I didn't be there when i had to choose |
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| 16:10 | <Tickrate> | but apparently the computer after some times |
| 16:10 | <Tickrate> | pass the question and decide to not install it |
| 16:10 | <sney> | no, it won't do that |
| 16:11 | <lanser> | klon : once you've updated the kernel, don't forget to add the 'discard' option in /etc/fstab for the partitions that you're going to use. If you want to make sure that TRIM works properly you can read this link : http://techgage.com/article/enabling_and_testing_ssd_trim_support_under_linux/ , in particular the second page (but the first one is also interesting). |
| 16:11 | <Tickrate> | Strange |
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| 16:11 | <sney> | the computer probably just reset during the install |
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| 16:12 | <Tickrate> | So it is a software problem or hardware ? |
| 16:12 | <sney> | it's hard to know since you weren't watching it when it went down |
| 16:12 | <namopo> | cannot compile a file. check out this: http://pastebin.com/g8YgL387 |
| 16:12 | <sney> | but I'd suggest trying the install again and see what happens |
| 16:13 | <sney> | namopo: install build-essential |
| 16:13 | <Tickrate> | This is what I intended to do monday |
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| 16:15 | <Tickrate> | thx |
| 16:15 | <klon> | s |
| 16:16 | <Volley> | Tickrate: leaving installation running overnight or so sounds like you are on a slow network? or is the box so antiquated? :) |
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| 16:18 | <Tickrate> | I use a computer in my highschool that I can use freely |
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| 16:18 | <Volley> | hmm |
| 16:18 | <Tickrate> | So I don't have unlimited time to be front of the computer |
| 16:19 | <Tickrate> | but the download went well |
| 16:19 | <Tickrate> | I quit the room where it start to install |
| 16:20 | <Tickrate> | *when |
| 16:20 | <gnugr> | Tickrate:can you boot somehow into even a black screen and login as root? |
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| 16:20 | <Tickrate> | yes |
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| 16:20 | <gnugr> | if yes do "apt-get install grub-pc" |
| 16:21 | <Tickrate> | but for example my first user account don't work but the root access works. |
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| 16:21 | <Tickrate> | that's what I thought of doing. |
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| 16:22 | <gnugr> | i hope network-manager is on |
| 16:23 | <Tickrate> | yes me too :p |
| 16:23 | <gnugr> | try it tho |
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| 16:28 | <djskidd> | hey |
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| 16:28 | <djskidd> | so I got NetworkManager to work |
| 16:28 | <sney> | hi |
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| 16:28 | <djskidd> | it wasn't installed |
| 16:28 | <dvs> | doh |
| 16:28 | <djskidd> | now how do I get it to manage the device? |
| 16:28 | <sney> | it'll automatically manage anything that isn't in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:29 | <djskidd> | it says "device not managed" under Wired and Wireless |
| 16:29 | <djskidd> | do I have to get rid of the command line stuff |
| 16:30 | <sney> | if the "command line stuff" is entries in /etc/network/interfaces, then yes. |
| 16:30 | <djskidd> | okay then |
| 16:32 | <djskidd> | is LiLo better than GRUB? |
| 16:33 | <ompaul> | djskidd: it's certainly older, it supports less configurations, your call |
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| 16:36 | <sney> | lilo is simpler to troubleshoot and if you just have a single OS on your computer, and no weird hardware, it may be worth your while |
| 16:36 | <djskidd> | I think I'll stick with GRUB |
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| 16:36 | <djskidd> | I don't know about weird hardware on this |
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| 16:36 | <djskidd> | as in, if I have any |
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| 16:37 | <djskidd> | but |
| 16:37 | <djskidd> | yay |
| 16:37 | <djskidd> | I finally have ny netbook ready for the huge, complex world of Debian! |
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| 16:37 | <araneae> | Only as complex as you make it. |
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| 16:38 | <djskidd> | now, first things first |
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| 16:38 | <djskidd> | I need DJ software that will work with a Numark Mixtrack Pro |
| 16:38 | <djskidd> | any suggestions? |
| 16:38 | <araneae> | On a netbook o_o |
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| 16:39 | <djskidd> | yes, on a netbook |
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| 16:41 | * | musca fears Araneae |
| 16:41 | <Araneae> | :< |
| 16:41 | <Araneae> | Musca! |
| 16:41 | <Araneae> | \o |
| 16:42 | <musca> | hi o/ |
| 16:42 | <djskidd> | so, DJ software that will work with a DJ controller, does anyone here have a reccomendation? |
| 16:42 | <Araneae> | Depends on what the 'DJ controller' is |
| 16:42 | <djskidd> | Numark Mixtrack |
| 16:42 | <scientes> | I was using path-exclude for dpkg to get rid of translations |
| 16:42 | <scientes> | and now i want them |
| 16:43 | <scientes> | do i have to reinstall all packages? and if so, how do i do it? |
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| 16:44 | <demoniccow> | Is there anyway for me to remove packages that come with the gnome desktop without synaptic saying i need to remove gnome with it. (Like: Ekiga) |
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| 16:45 | <gnugr> | scientes:fix your sources.list as it was and do update/upgrade to get them all back |
| 16:45 | <scientes> | demoniccow, dpkg -r |
| 16:45 | <scientes> | gnugr, its not packages, this isn't preferences(5) |
| 16:45 | <scientes> | gnugr, http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/11/15/save-disk-space-by-excluding-useless-files-with-dpkg/ |
| 16:45 | <chealer> | demoniccow: the gnome package is a metapackage. it provides, but does not *contain* the GNOME desktop environment. |
| 16:46 | <demoniccow> | ty |
| 16:47 | <scientes> | all it does is depend on all the standard (and most complete) gnome packages |
| 16:47 | <demoniccow> | I get this: gnome-desktop-environment depends on ekiga (>= 3.2.6) |
| 16:47 | <demoniccow> | i find that hard to belive |
| 16:47 | <scientes> | yeah, you wont loose any functionality if you remove that package |
| 16:47 | <scientes> | gnome-desktop-environment is debian's gnome-based desktop |
| 16:48 | <scientes> | while "gnome" is a more upstream-like gnome selection |
| 16:48 | <demoniccow> | soo how do i remove it without running into that error |
| 16:48 | <demoniccow> | ? |
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| 16:51 | <gnugr> | scientes: "dpkg --configure -a" and "aptitude -f install" will not get them back? |
| 16:52 | <demoniccow> | so rephrased would be: Is there anyway for me to remove packages that come with the gnome-desktop-environment without synaptic saying i need to remove gnome with it. (Like: Ekiga) |
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| 16:52 | <qaz2012> | hi |
| 16:52 | <scientes> | gnugr, no, that wouldn't work |
| 16:52 | <scientes> | gnugr, it would require a install --reinstall |
| 16:53 | <scientes> | or maybe there is something more elegent, that is what i am hoping for |
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| 16:53 | <gnugr> | like "dpkg --repair-db <package>" with a string |
| 16:54 | <qaz2012> | I can't print form windows 7 pro to cups 1.5.2 anybody can give me a hand? |
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| 16:55 | <demoniccow> | found it: dpkg -r --force-all |
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| 16:56 | <scientes> | demoniccow, ahh, that will cause problems |
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| 16:57 | <scientes> | demoniccow, you don't have to worry about removing meta-packages |
| 16:57 | <demoniccow> | scientes, how so? |
| 16:57 | <scientes> | --force-all is VERY dangerous |
| 16:57 | <scientes> | and using dpkg without dependanct resolution is also very dangerous |
| 16:57 | <newbieumbreon> | hello there! sorry to bother but I've been all my life using ubuntu and all that |
| 16:58 | <newbieumbreon> | but the people says debian is better |
| 16:58 | <newbieumbreon> | could you tell me please why is that? |
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| 16:58 | <scientes> | newbieumbreon, ubuntu is based on debian |
| 16:58 | <araneae> | CUZ JESUS LOVES DEBIAN |
| 16:58 | <newbieumbreon> | I know that scientes, |
| 16:58 | <newbieumbreon> | LOL ok... good argument araneae but anything else? X3 |
| 16:58 | <scientes> | newbieumbreon, and the "universe" packages in ubuntu, which come from debian, are generally very out of date in ubuntu |
| 16:58 | <scientes> | and also buggyu |
| 16:58 | <Guest135> | why do I get a command not found error when adding to the repository |
| 16:58 | <demoniccow> | debian is more stable and uses less system resources |
| 16:59 | <newbieumbreon> | I'm not using Ubuntu at the moment |
| 16:59 | <newbieumbreon> | I migrated to Linux Mint at the moment |
| 16:59 | <qaz2012> | newbieumbreon: ubutnu is an african word who means : debian for kids ;) |
| 16:59 | <newbieumbreon> | I hate UNITY |
| 16:59 | <scientes> | newbieumbreon, you can install gnome-shell on ubuntu |
| 16:59 | <newbieumbreon> | I know that scientes |
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| 16:59 | <newbieumbreon> | I did it already |
| 16:59 | <scientes> | (or you can install gnome-shell on debian) |
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| 16:59 | <newbieumbreon> | but the system get's in first place sometimes unestable... and in second place |
| 16:59 | <scientes> | and if you arn't mainly using "main" in ubuntu, then you loose its benifits (if any) |
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| 16:59 | <qaz2012> | newbieumbreon: try linux mint debian |
| 16:59 | <newbieumbreon> | sometimes they crashed always happen the same |
| 17:00 | <qaz2012> | is a good start |
| 17:00 | <newbieumbreon> | linux mint debian? |
| 17:00 | <scientes> | so if you use alot of "universe" newbieumbreon you are better off with debian |
| 17:00 | <newbieumbreon> | I see... |
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| 17:00 | <gnugr> | newbieumbreon:lots migrated to debian cause of unity (no options to select enviroment) |
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| 17:00 | <sney> | qaz2012, newbieumbreon - Mint is another "based on debian" distribution that is not supported here, so while you are of course welcome to try it, it may be harder for you to get help if you need it |
| 17:00 | <qaz2012> | http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php |
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| 17:01 | <newbieumbreon> | no no I don't need help I'm more or less an advanced user but I wanted to know the differences |
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| 17:01 | <qaz2012> | sney: I know ,is just to give him a simple start |
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| 17:01 | <newbieumbreon> | for example in debian you use directly in the terminal the "deb whatever" something to install isn't it? |
| 17:02 | <newbieumbreon> | do you have apt-get or aptitude? |
| 17:02 | <sney> | apt-get and aptitude were both debian tools first |
| 17:02 | <qaz2012> | newbieumbreon: yes |
| 17:02 | <demoniccow> | is it ok for me to remove the metapackage gnome-desktop-environment? Will it break gnome 2? |
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| 17:02 | <sney> | demoniccow: metapackages have no software in them. the only way removing a metapackage will break anything is if other things are removed along with it |
| 17:02 | <newbieumbreon> | ok... uhmmm then exactly what's the difference? |
| 17:02 | <scientes> | demoniccow, you can safely remove the metapackage |
| 17:02 | <demoniccow> | sney, thanks |
| 17:03 | <sney> | aptitude has smarter dependency resolution, but it's not quite as fast, and sometimes it is too "smart" especially with big things like branch upgrades |
| 17:03 | <qaz2012> | ubuntu was created to simplify debian installation and give grafical tools |
| 17:03 | <newbieumbreon> | I don't need them I mean I love my terminal |
| 17:03 | <gnugr> | you build your debian as you want not as Canonical wants |
| 17:03 | <newbieumbreon> | but what else is different? |
| 17:03 | <sney> | aptitude also has a curses-based ui similar to dselect |
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| 17:03 | <newbieumbreon> | I see... |
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| 17:04 | <newbieumbreon> | and the environment... now are you using GNOME 2, 3? KDE? LXDE? what? |
| 17:04 | <sney> | debian has better QA and testing procedures, so the 'stable' release is great for production servers etc. where you don't want to be looking under the hood all the time |
| 17:04 | <demoniccow> | im trying to uninstall ekiga but it says i need to remove gnome |
| 17:04 | <sney> | all of the above, if you want. they're all available and it's your choice. |
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| 17:04 | <sney> | demoniccow: 'gnome' is another metapackage. it won't remove all of the gnome environment unless you see a big list of packages |
| 17:04 | <newbieumbreon> | ok... now about the drivers... oh I still suffering with the f*cking ATI drivers |
| 17:05 | <newbieumbreon> | how do they work in debian for games and all that stuff? |
| 17:05 | <qaz2012> | newbieumbreon: what Readeon yo have? |
| 17:05 | <sney> | fglrx is a pain in the butt no matter where you are. that's amd/ati's fault |
| 17:05 | <newbieumbreon> | 6320 I think |
| 17:05 | <araneae> | WOOHOO CRYSIS ON HIGH DEF |
| 17:05 | <qaz2012> | use the opensource |
| 17:05 | <sney> | the free Xorg 'radeon' driver probably supports your gpu, but it's nowhere near as fast for 3d |
| 17:05 | <qaz2012> | driver |
| 17:05 | <newbieumbreon> | EXACTLY... |
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| 17:06 | <qaz2012> | anybody use cups 1,5,2 and ipp? |
| 17:06 | <sney> | that said, the debian fglrx dkms system keeps your fglrx modules built with new kernel upgrades, which is nice |
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| 17:06 | <sney> | !anyone |
| 17:06 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 17:06 | <newbieumbreon> | of course I tried it in the WIndows 8 partition (yeah I had to make one just to test) and I said... what the? 8 is not released yet and works so awesome |
| 17:06 | <newbieumbreon> | and sucks so much in linux? |
| 17:06 | <qaz2012> | anyone? |
| 17:06 | <qaz2012> | heheh |
| 17:07 | <sney> | ati does not really want to support linux, they never have, the fglrx driver was just a small project for unix workstations |
| 17:07 | <qaz2012> | reinstalled my debian box |
| 17:07 | <sney> | they only do it because there's barely enough demand. they've been contributing to 'radeon' though so eventually fglrx will be unnecessary. that day has not arrived. |
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| 17:07 | <newbieumbreon> | NVIDIA works better in linux right? |
| 17:07 | <scientes> | ati doesnt exist anymore |
| 17:08 | <sney> | scientes: ati exists as a division within amd, their linux support "policy" is unchanged, don't be a pedant |
| 17:08 | <sney> | newbieumbreon: performance is slightly better, sometimes, but the proprietary driver annoyance is no different |
| 17:08 | <chealer> | demoniccow: as I said, the gnome package is a metapackage. it provides GNOME when you install it, but does not *contain* the GNOME desktop environment. In other words, when Synaptic tells you it needs to remove "gnome" (the package), that doesn't mean it will remove GNOME (the desktop environment). |
| 17:08 | <qaz2012> | my disk died , now I lost my samba and cups configuration . I Created this in 2010 , now I think to remember the setting but : win 7 don't want to print the using http://ip:631/printers/PRINTER |
| 17:08 | <sney> | in fact it's a little worse for people who try to use the installer from nvidia.com, since it can nuke X |
| 17:08 | <newbieumbreon> | well talking about the OS's for example after all I'm not using ubuntu I'm using Mint |
| 17:09 | <newbieumbreon> | how could be different these two uh? |
| 17:09 | <qaz2012> | and don't reconize the server by name |
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| 17:09 | <Guest135> | how do I add repositories |
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| 17:10 | * | scientes has had had good success with radeon driver |
| 17:10 | <sney> | qaz2012: windows tends to behave better with cups if the printer is in a class |
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| 17:10 | <sney> | the server name resolution is handled through hosts or samba or dns, whatever you feel like using (or you can just direct windows to a static ip) |
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| 17:11 | <qaz2012> | newbieumbreon: I have ant ATI 5770 on my workstation = I use the opensource driver and I can sleep at night , on my hTPT I have and Nvidia ION = I use the closed source and I can have an 1080p 5.1 channedl using mplayer with 5% cpu |
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| 17:11 | <qaz2012> | sney: ok ..let's see |
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| 17:12 | <newbieumbreon> | oh k... then Nvidia loves ubuntu and ATI... not really... I had to research about that before LOL |
| 17:12 | <dfc> | is there a way to change the version in a bug i submitted? |
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| 17:13 | <newbieumbreon> | And about the closed driver well at least the Mint original driver didn't suppor OpenGL very well |
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| 17:13 | <newbieumbreon> | I had to install the closed one, it works with the OpenGL but refresh my GNOME 3 all the time... |
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| 17:14 | <demoniccow> | is gnome-core and gnome-accessibility metapackages to? |
| 17:14 | <sney> | yes |
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| 17:15 | <demoniccow> | is there like somewhere where i can see a list of all of the metapackages? |
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| 17:17 | <chealer> | demoniccow: they are. the description of gnome-core says it's a metapackage. there is no such list, no. |
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| 17:18 | <sney> | you can make educated guesses, though. if a package name sounds like it could be a group of packages, it's probably a metapackage. if it sounds like the name of a single program or begins with "lib", it probably isn't |
| 17:18 | <qaz2012> | sney: so now is http://ip:631/printers/CLASS ? |
| 17:18 | <chealer> | demoniccow: however, http://debtags.debian.net/search/?wl=&q=metapackage&qf=all shows some |
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| 17:19 | <chealer> | demoniccow: otherwise, you could check the files provided by the package to guess if it really provides stuff directly |
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| 17:22 | <Melinda92> | hi all |
| 17:23 | <Melinda92> | pls somebody help me to install flash player on my old pc :S |
| 17:23 | <musca> | !flash |
| 17:23 | <dpkg> | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> for a free implementation or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 17:24 | <Melinda92> | <adobe flash> |
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| 17:24 | <musca> | !adobe flash |
| 17:24 | <dpkg> | Adobe Flash Player is <non-free>. The easiest way to install it is with the flashplugin-nonfree <contrib> package for squeeze and later releases. There is also a flashplayer-mozilla package in <dmm> (non-free section). WARNING: installing flashplugin-nonfree will NOT automatically keep the plugin updated. Read more on http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer . See also <flash amd64>, <bdo>, <dmm>. |
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| 17:26 | <qaz2012> | Melinda92: 1) you need to add non-free in the main repository -- 2) apt-get update (from root or use sudo 3) apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree (root or sudo) |
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| 17:27 | <tpo> | hello everyone. I have a big issue with my soundcard. ALSA doesn't recognize it. I just installed Debian squeeze |
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| 17:27 | <heikkila> | qaz2012, it is in the contrib part, I think it is just a script that downloads the flash installer |
| 17:27 | <chealer> | dfc: yes. did you check http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#found ? |
| 17:28 | <qaz2012> | heikkila: tnx good to know |
| 17:28 | <qaz2012> | tpo: what card? |
| 17:29 | <Melinda92> | pls help me to install wifi |
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| 17:29 | <tpo> | qaz2012: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) according to lspci |
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| 17:32 | <qaz2012> | tpo: start from this site http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=74410 |
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| 17:37 | <tpo> | qaz2012: doesn't seem to be related. Audio was working when I installed but it stopped once I ran "aptitude upgrade" |
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| 17:37 | <qaz2012> | try alsamixer in a terminal |
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| 17:39 | <tpo> | qaz2012: I get this: "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory" I read elsewhere that I should try alsactl init, and this is what I get: "alsactl: init:1743: No soundcards found..." |
| 17:40 | <qaz2012> | try to reinstall alsa |
| 17:40 | <qaz2012> | with apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base |
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| 17:42 | <Guest135> | before I add this to my sources.list is this correct http://paste.debian.net/161601/ |
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| 17:43 | <tpo> | qaz2012: nope, it didn't work :( |
| 17:43 | <tpo> | i get the same error with alsactl and with alsamixer |
| 17:43 | <qaz2012> | see if you have and /etc/asound.conf |
| 17:44 | <tpo> | it's empty |
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| 17:44 | <tpo> | qaz2012: meaning it isn't there, in the /etc/ folder... |
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| 17:46 | <qaz2012> | did you tried to remove all alsa (apt-get remove --purge alsa-base)and reinstall |
| 17:46 | <qaz2012> | ? |
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| 17:47 | <tpo> | qaz2012: just did that, same output |
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| 18:04 | <pic> | any one know about ipsec? |
| 18:05 | <pic> | will take the silence as no. |
| 18:05 | <gnugr> | pic: be more specific and wait, please |
| 18:05 | <pic> | strongswan |
| 18:06 | <pic> | openvpn I can do...but ipsec is trickier |
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| 18:07 | <pic> | and appears a somewhat more brittle tech |
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| 18:08 | <pic> | but being kernel level shows the chances of being a better tech and with ip6 and all. |
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| 19:24 | <johfel_> | /quit |
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| 19:30 | <mejsa1> | hey guys,im sharing folder with others in local network,is possibility to share it with my GF over internet ? if yes,how? |
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| 19:32 | <heikkila> | mejsa1, if she also has Debian sshfs would be quite easy to setup |
| 19:33 | <mejsa1> | no,she has 7 |
| 19:33 | <heikkila> | 7 what? |
| 19:34 | <mejsa1> | windows 7 |
| 19:34 | <mejsa1> | i would like to add that disk like a local disk to her,:-) |
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| 19:35 | <meglaw> | then smb |
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| 19:39 | <heikkila> | smb over the Internet? |
| 19:40 | <meglaw> | missed that, should work tho even tho not verry secure. :) |
| 19:40 | <meglaw> | could tunnle it |
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| 19:41 | <sney> | yeah, openvpn would be best |
| 19:44 | <lanser> | when using aptitude to install a package, what mean the letters surrounded by braces like {a} or {ab} besides the package and its dependencies names ? |
| 19:44 | <lanser> | I probably missed it but I didn't find the answer in the manual nor on Google. |
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| 19:44 | <sney> | a means it was installed automatically (usually as a dependency) |
| 19:45 | <sney> | I don't remember what the b flag means |
| 19:45 | <supaman> | build-dependent? |
| 19:46 | <mejsa1> | okay,when i share my folder with others in an local network,how can i protect trasfering and loggin into system? :-) |
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| 19:46 | <lanser> | sney : ok thank you, do you have a link explaining the meaning of all possible flags ? |
| 19:47 | <sney> | I found a link but it doesn't have all of the flags, so no |
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| 19:47 | <lanser> | sney : even if it just explains some of them it would be great |
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| 19:50 | <sney> | found something else |
| 19:50 | <sney> | !aptitude docs |
| 19:50 | <dpkg> | Documentation for aptitude can be found in the aptitude-doc package (to see the languages in which it is available, apt-cache showpkg aptitude-doc) or at http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/index.html . See also <aptitude build-dep> <aptitude clone> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude debug> <aptitude search> <aptitude states>. |
| 19:51 | <lanser> | ok thank you very much |
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| 20:20 | <sergio> | hello everyone |
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| 20:20 | <sergio> | i have a questions |
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| 20:21 | <Guest167> | i cannot watch any video |
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| 20:22 | <Guest167> | how can i install the adobe flash on ubutun |
| 20:22 | <nevyn> | Guest167: ask #ubuntu |
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| 20:24 | <Guest167> | how can i install adobe flash |
| 20:25 | <nevyn> | !ubuntu |
| 20:25 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 20:28 | <Guest167> | can some one help me with my question please |
| 20:28 | <supaman> | sorry Guest167, we dont support Ubuntu here |
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| 22:24 | <brando753> | how does someone direct druplicon to someone without having him PM them? |
| 22:25 | <brando753> | sorry wrong channel |
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| 22:56 | <kgemini22> | anyone know of a driver for NVidia 555m ? |
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| 22:56 | <kgemini22> | for Ubuntu/BackTrack |
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| --- | Log | closed Sun Apr 01 00:00:35 2012 |