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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-04-06

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02:41<scientes>what command do i use to unpack a .dsc and associated
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03:00<scientes>dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to distcc-3.1/.git/objects/93/8e531dd57f57a26d44f765b731c547b35c9fc1: binary file contents changed
03:00<scientes>how do i get dpkg-source to ignore a git repo i created to track my changes?
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03:01<ayaka>i think when you pack your package,you should tar it with exclude-vcs
03:02<scientes>all i did was download the package, unpack with dpkg-source
03:02<scientes>and then git init;git add;git commit so i could track my changes
03:02<scientes>to make easy patch submission, etc
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03:45<intore>hi, could you help me please about problems logging on ubuntu 10.10 using ldap user credential?
03:45<intore>i have an ldap server squeeze
03:45<intore>this is the output trying to login on the client
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03:46<intore>using a shell after login as the local user i can use the ldap user
03:46<jm_>ubuntu support is not handled here - /msg dpkg ubuntu
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04:18<qinliming>anyone here?
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04:24<Doubleman>Hello qin
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05:23<scientes>!ubuntuirc | intore
05:23<dpkg>| intore: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://
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06:04<inkbottle>Hi, for long I have difficulties with my printer: IMO no adequate ppd(?) for it.. So I switch between plxmono, lj5gray, and pcl6-gutemprint. What channel would you say to help me about that?
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06:08<devil>the one that you tell, what printer it is
06:09<inkbottle>hl-5250dn (Brother)
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06:10<inkbottle>What is said is to send postscript to it, but it's damed too slow
06:10<inkbottle>what is well understood by it is pcl6
06:11<inkbottle>but pxlmono or lj5gray which ppd's are availables are buggy(?)
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06:12<themill>there's a ##cups on
06:12<inkbottle>generic pcl6 gutemprint is good, but margins incorrect
06:12<inkbottle>at present time I'm googling at "alignmargin", I'll see what comes from it
06:13<inkbottle>themill: ok
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06:26<polix>moin zusammen
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06:34<polix>has someone problems with libcairo2?
06:34<movl>polix: yes, try #debian-next
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06:34<movl>the bug si already reported
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06:35<movl>polix: you're running sid, right?
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06:35<polix>movl: yes I am running sid :D
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06:35<movl>see above
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06:35<polix>movl: but I have downgradet libcairo 2 on testing
06:36<movl>still #debian-next
06:36<movl>see the topic
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06:39<polix>movl: do you speak German? :)
06:39<movl>polix: no
06:39<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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06:41<inkbottle>There is a ghostscript version dedicated to PCL; That would be ghostPDL (, But I don't find anything with Debian?
06:41<Osiris_X>is plymouth the preferred boot splash screen for debian?
06:42<polix>movl: :)
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07:10<infinity0>how can i get debian to mail me when disk usage is low?
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07:10<infinity0>er, high*
07:11<ayaka>infinity0 i think nagios can do it
07:11<infinity0>aha thanks
07:11<infinity0>er what's the package name
07:11<infinity0>oh nagios3
07:11<infinity0>sounds unnecessarily heavy for me lol
07:12<ayaka>but you need some plugin and config it youself
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07:13<scientes>why not just use a cron job?
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07:13<ayaka>scientes good idea
07:13<infinity0>scientes: i could but then i need to write it
07:13<infinity0>i thought debian might already have something like it
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07:13<scientes>infinity0, it does, but for desktops
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07:14<infinity0>i am using a desktop :p
07:14<scientes>well, when you load gnome, it tells you
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07:14<scientes>unless you previously supressed the warnings
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07:15<infinity0>scientes: when i load gnome? as in when it starts?
07:15<infinity0>i need regular checks
07:15<scientes>as in , when you log in
07:15<scientes>and also all the time as you are logged in
07:15<infinity0>i haven't suppressed anything, but this has been upgraded a few times so not everything might be configured right
07:15<scientes>when it passes a specific point
07:15<infinity0>is that configurable?
07:15<scientes>i believe it uses inotify or fanotify
07:15<infinity0>i don't recall getting any notices for 90%
07:16<scientes> i am sure its configurable somewhere, even if you have to compile something
07:16<scientes>i use to get them all the time
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07:16<Hurricane>Hello, I installed debian, and then system starts i just get a black screen, and lines runing on screen. Can someone help me ? ?
07:16<scientes>stuff like "you only have 900mb free on X, you should do something about this"
07:16<infinity0>right ok i'll look around gnome docs
07:16<scientes>infinity0, also, ext has a tunable on % reserved for root
07:16<infinity0>thanks for the pointer
07:16<scientes>infinity0, so that if only X% is free, only root can allocate that, while all other users get ENOSPC
07:17<infinity0>not that useful for me but thanks :p
07:17<Hurricane>so can someone help me ?
07:19<Hurricane>anyone ?
07:20<scientes>infinity0, there is also user quotas
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07:22<infinity0>scientes: ah, what i need is to get mailed when my backup drive starts running out of space, so anything uid-related won't help
07:23<scientes>infinity0, wouldn't it be cool to have some crude approximentation of exponential backoff in backup deletion :P
07:23<infinity0>yeah, rsnapshot does that
07:23<infinity0>it's what i use :p
07:23<scientes>btrfs is pretty hot for backup if you trust the filesystem too
07:24<infinity0>i'll give it another few years :p i tried it last year and lost /var
07:24<scientes>and it has some features like you are talking about i believe
07:24<scientes>esp as it offers transparent compression
07:24<infinity0>ah very interesting
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07:30<ayaka>haotian which ip tunnel service do you use
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07:34<haotian>ayaka :: there on the example configurations
07:34<haotian>I can't find debian listed
07:34<haotian>I don't know which one to pick
07:36<ayaka>haotian ok, i use the same tunnel but bot now
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07:37<ayaka>I means linux, there are two entries in the list containing linux,one is for 2.4 the other is for 2.6 and later
07:37<haotian>yea 2 entries one says route2
07:37<haotian>other one I forgot
07:38<haotian>Linux-net-tools and Linux-route2
07:38<ayaka>haotian i forget, but you may try another one
07:39<ayaka>but use them in the same time don't cause problem, only not neceesary
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07:55<haotian>When I do aptitude search route, it doesn't show route2
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07:56<haotian>how can I install that package
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07:57<ayaka>haotian so that is out of data,it is for 2.4
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07:59<Sillencer>is someone here who could help ???
08:00<ayaka>!ask Sillencer
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08:00<Sillencer>what is with ask ?
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08:01<themill>Sillencer: just ask your question, don't ask if there is someone here... there are 474 people here...
08:01<DragonDon>is this a good idea "allow HTTPS, SSH & OpenVPN to share the same 443 port." if sslh is installed?
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08:02<ayaka>DragonDon buy they can't be used in the same time
08:03<Sillencer>I instaled debian, but then PC starts i just get black scenn with small running lines. I instaled without user interface, so I don't think it's something with video drivers
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08:03<ayaka>Sillencer do you see "login"
08:04<ayaka>Sillencer just see an _ ?
08:04<DragonDon>ayaka, according to this, they can
08:04<Sillencer>yes, running on screen
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08:06<Rydekull>DragonDon: well, they dont really use the same port at the same time, you are putting something that listens on 443, inspects the traffic, and then proxies it on to the right service, depending on how the traffic looks like
08:06<Rydekull>it has its uses, yes
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08:07<ayaka>Sillencer could you press ctrl alt 2
08:07<ayaka>Sillencer could you press ctrl alt f2
08:07<Sillencer>same thing
08:08<ayaka>Sillencer then could you press alt f2
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08:08<ayaka>Sillencer press enter
08:09<ayaka>Sillencer if you boot into recovery, can you login
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08:09<ayaka>Sillencer if you can paste lspci
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08:10<Sillencer>i can't
08:10<DragonDon>Thanks, I like the idea of security through obscurity. Keep a common, and seemingly usless port, open but have it be a good gateway for me :)
08:10<Sillencer>right after boot, i just get this _ running on screen
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08:11<ayaka>Sillencer have you tried an live cd, I think you don't install it properly
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08:12<abrotman>Sillencer: sounds like your video card is trying to go to framebuffer, and the card can't cope .. try turning that off
08:12<Sillencer>abrotman: How to do this ? sorry, I'm kind of a newbie
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08:13<abrotman>!tell Sillencer about fb
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08:13<Sillencer>I don't see nothing
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08:14<ayaka>Sillencer can you receive what dpkg said
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08:14<Sillencer>yes, I see now
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08:15<Sillencer>ok, tnx, I'll try
08:16<ayaka>it is the first that I know squeeze try to use fb, fb never work here
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08:35<Osiris_X>just refreshed wheezy packages in aptitude (having previously done it a few hours ago) - 511 updated packages?? - is this for real or do I have an other problem??
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08:36<abrotman>Osiris_X: you might have been using an out of date mirror
08:36<Osiris_X>abrotman: I'm using
08:37<abrotman>doesn't mean it couldn't have been out of date
08:37<abrotman>!tell Osiris_X about inout
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08:44<Rydekull>DragonDon: 443(HTTPS) is hardly a useless port :-)
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08:52<baydzhik>как установить драйвера nvidia
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08:55<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
08:56<babilen>!tell baydzhik -about nvidia
08:56<babilen>!tell baydzhik -about nvidia dkms
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09:17<haotian>what does it mean, "routing to ::/0" as in -> "ip route add ::/0"
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09:18<ayaka>haotian add default route
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09:19<haotian>default route oh
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09:19<haotian>still not very clear, I routed a windows pc and now routing the debian one, let me prepare a paste
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09:21<ayaka>haotian can you paste full cmd, i think you just tell me a part
09:22<haotian>ofcourse I know, I just showed a very little part
09:22<haotian>here I show you what I did on my windows machine
09:22<abrotman>ayaka: he's asking how to use the 'ip' command
09:22<haotian>I will now use same tunnel for debian one, but not sure at the routing part
09:23<ayaka>abrotman i see, then i will explain that
09:24<ayaka>haotian the default route will sent to device he0,which is an virtual device
09:25<abrotman>omg ..
09:26<ayaka>abrotman are my explaining wrong
09:26<haotian>so is it find if I uncomment that line, will it work as the windows one does ?
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09:27<haotian>note that routing is 1f0a while client ip's are 1f0b
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09:27<ayaka>I don' know m$,but i never success in configing in m$
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09:28<ayaka>haotian could you tell me what do you want to do
09:29<haotian>I want to route the computer to the 1f0a tunell end
09:29<haotian>and assign it the routed client ip, which is 1f0b ones
09:31<ayaka>haotian I can't know what you want, i am sorry for my english, but those cmd can make your tunnel work properly
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09:33<haotian>alright thanks. Sorry I can't explain it well too, I'm newb
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09:33<Sillencer>ayaka, now I have just an _
09:34<Sillencer>I used fb=false then installing..
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09:34<ayaka>haotian I am sure what config offered can make your tunnel works
09:34<oznt>hi, does anyone here use jumanji or uzbl browsers ?
09:34<oznt>i'd like to make 'f' behave like in vimperator
09:34<ayaka>Sillencer do you try a live cd and its tty
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09:35<Sillencer>no, it's not from a live cd
09:35<Sillencer>ok i'll try
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09:35<ayaka>Sillencer wait
09:36<ayaka>Sillencer you should use video=vga16:off in grub2 cmd
09:36<abrotman>isn't he still in the installer?
09:37<Sillencer>I installed it already
09:37<abrotman>Sillencer: the bot already told you how to disable the fb ..
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09:37<ayaka>abrotman I think what he met is after installed
09:37<Sillencer>but I don't see grub loader
09:38<ayaka>abrotman well, I don't think he can understand the shortage used in dpkg
09:38<ayaka>Sillencer then how to you boot into recovery
09:38<Sillencer>I'm not booting into recovery :d
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09:39<abrotman>ayaka: you did ..
09:39<ayaka>Sillencer but you told me you have tried it
09:39<ayaka>abrotman I am sorry, he did what
09:40<abrotman>Sillencer: did you try the options the bot gave you in msg ?
09:40<Sillencer>I think we missunderstood each other..
09:40<Sillencer>I'm a big newb :) lol,I tryed them then installing Debian
09:40<Sillencer>the fb= false option
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09:41<abrotman>Sillencer: and now you need to turn off the fb after the install at the grub prompt ?
09:41<Sillencer>And now I have just _ at beggining
09:41<Sillencer>I tell you, I don't see grub promt
09:41<Sillencer>that's strang
09:41<Sillencer>that's strange
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09:42<abrotman>Sillencer: sounds like grub isn't correctly installed ?
09:43<abrotman>which installer did you use ?
09:43<Sillencer>think so... Coul a bad HDD be the cause ?
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09:45<Sillencer>Debian stable_netinstall_x64
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10:00<hate29>Is there any ideas how to work with suspend problem? Suspend just shuts down monitor but nothing else and I have to push power button to get system back up. Logs give no errors and google neither. But I really NEED suspend.
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10:01<mattwimpelberg>how can I access the debian source code
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10:03<themill>mattwimpelberg: assuming you have correctly set up your sources.list, apt-get source $package
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10:03<movl>hate29: what hardware, what kernel?
10:04<movl>paste somewhere
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10:08<hate29>movl: asus p5n-e sli and kernel is 2.6.32-5-686. I've asked around forum but with no answers. Suspend works fine as I tested with win 7 on another hard drive.
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10:08<ichdasich>hate29: what kind of graphics adapter?
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10:12<hate29>ichdasich: Geforce 8600 GT. I forgot to say that suspend worked fine on another mobo. So it got to be this "new" one.
10:16<movl>hate29: so you're running stable, I presume
10:17<movl>if so, install a newer kernel and report back
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10:17<hate29>movl: Yes. Testing wasn't stable enough. =)
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10:18<hate29>I've tested with ubuntu 11.10 live cd and it didn't help. Also I've tested testing but suspend failed there too.. So I'm out of options
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10:20<movl>that's odd
10:20<movl>I know nforce chipsets to be quite alright when it comes to suspend in Linux
10:20<movl>maybe it's too new and not yet fully supported
10:21<movl>but a very new kernel wouldn't hurt
10:21<movl>ubuntu 11.10 has 3,0, I believe
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10:21<movl>backports has 3.2
10:21<movl>and upstream is at 3.4-rc1
10:22<movl>besides trying a vanilla kernel, I'm not sure what to suggest
10:22<movl>maybe some BIOS option?
10:22<movl>or an update
10:22<hate29>Newer kernel could do it. Though I'm waiting Wheezy to become stable as I upgrade my hard drives at the same time.
10:22<hate29>I've updated bios and with these settings windows suspends perfectly
10:23<movl>so suspend ain't yet supported on that chipset yet
10:23<movl>I seem to repeat myself today...o.o
10:24<themill>you could try suspend-to-disk instead -- that tends to be more robust
10:24<hate29>themill: no help. Neither to-disk or hibernate won't make any difference
10:24<themill>so the machine doesn't shut down properly ever?
10:25<hate29>This is my last place to get help. I'm really out of ideas. But maybe newer kernel would help indeed.
10:25<hate29>themill: normal shutdown works everytime.
10:25<movl>hate29: try some kernel-related channel or mailing list
10:26<movl>if vanilla won't work
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10:28<hate29>movl: I'll try that. Is there any knowledge about when is Wheezy coming stable? Next summer or so?
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10:29<movl>hate29: when it's ready
10:29<movl>that's always the answer :)
10:29<babilen>!tell hate29 -about wwwr
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10:30<velenere>Hello, I have debian and windows on my laptop, just today I got an update alert from windows, after installing all the updated I'm not able to boot up anymore, something went wrong with GRUB so it keeps on restarting the laptop, any clue how to repair GRUB?
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10:30<hate29>movl: of course! =) That's the good thing about debian. Stable is really stable.
10:31<movl>velenere: reinstall it
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10:31<velenere>movl: reinstall GRUB?
10:31<themill>hate29: you can always try out the 3.2 kernel from -- it's wheezy's kernel that is recompiled to run on squeeze. /msg dpkg bdo kernel
10:31<oznt>does someone here know how to make terminus font seen by X in debian ?
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10:32<movl>oznt: fc-cache?
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10:33<oznt>movl, ? just run that commant ?
10:33<babilen>oznt: How did you install it? (fwiw)
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10:34<oznt>babilen, i used that package xfonts-terminus
10:35<babilen>oznt: And is it listed by fc-list?
10:35<oznt>starting xfontsel i see an error: can't loat font '*-terminus-medium ...'
10:35<oznt>babilen, nope
10:36<oznt>Term: Bold and Regular are listed
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10:37<dvs>velenere: Get an install CD and reinstall GRUB from that.
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10:37<babilen>oznt: Term? That should be "Terminus:style=Bold" and "Terminus:style=Regular"
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10:41<oznt>babilen, i meant Terminus, it's listed by fc-list, now the error starting xfontsel is not there anymore, but I can't select that font ...
10:42<babilen>oznt: So it is a problem in xfontsel rather than all of Xorg? Have you tried to use it elsewhere? Did you restart X?
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10:46<velenere>dvs: I still have the usb stick that I used to install debian, but it's not a live OS, where to go from here?
10:46<oznt>babilen, restarting x is doing it :-)
10:46<oznt>now dwm shows the correct font
10:46<dvs>velenere: Boot from that and go into rescue mode
10:47<oznt>babilen, and also xfontsel, sorry i disconnected so abruptly
10:47<oznt>and now for the last challenge of the day ...
10:47<velenere>dvs, I tried that but I stopped when it asked me for the system name, I felt like reinstalling the whole thing
10:48<dvs>velenere: That's not rescue mode
10:48<oznt>I can't get that bO§§%"!y dmenu_run to see applications in ~bin/ ...
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10:48<velenere>ok, now it's there on the upper left corner of the screen, maybe I was wrong
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10:50<babilen>oznt: Make sure it is using the correct PATH -- That is: Where do you set PATH?
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10:52<velenere>dvs: can I have your attention for a minute?
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10:53<velenere>I am in rescue mode, it is asking for the location and language and keyboard layout
10:53<dvs>ok... and?
10:54<velenere>Detecting hardware> loading additional components>
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10:54<velenere>Asking for wlan non-free driver, I postponed
10:55<velenere>Canceling the connection to network
10:55<velenere>asking me for host name !!
10:56<dvs>just press enter
10:56<velenere>Device to use as root file system
10:56<dvs>yeah, pick whatever it is
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10:57<naiv>what is the meaning of rc.d ? r*** config . directory ?
10:58<velenere>1- Execute a shell in .... 2- Execute a shell in the installer environment 3- Choose a different root file system 4- reboot the system
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10:59<dvs>velenere: I'd say 1 if you picked the root file system from before
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11:01<velenere>dvs, now I have the shell
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11:01<dvs>velenere: Run "grub-install /dev/sda" (assuming your boot hard drive is /dev/sda)
11:02<velenere>that means I need internet connection?
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11:25<pfrost>how does the kernel know what modules to load from initrd to be able to mount / ?
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11:26<indigo>i'm trying to get Xen guests to boot with an NFS root, and it's looking like the kernel doesn't have drivers for the xen console or virtual NICs at boot. Do I have to tell it to load those modules, somehow?
11:32<velenere>dvs: I can't really be sure what was my boot drive, but if I say that my root is /dev/ZDVG/home, does that give any clue?
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11:35<andres>indigo: add them to the initramfs?
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11:36<indigo>andres: i've understood that much...but doesn't the initramfs have all the modules? Does the kernel load them ALL?
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11:38<andres>indigo: which modules it has depends on your configuration. The kernel loads the modules it detects as being required.
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11:42<kop>indigo: update-initramfs -u
11:42<Melquimedes>hola soy nuevo en Ubuntu. Alguien habla en español
11:42<Melquimedes>tengo unas dudas
11:42<dpkg>Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en Ahi recibira mas soporte.
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11:55<debsid>hello, does anybody know anything about importing the Meego UX in debian?
11:55<debsid>here is a photo:
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12:23<Nikos>hey guys
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12:23<Nikos>is installed portmap on my system but when booting my pc it tries to start portmap twice
12:24<Nikos>And says that portmap is provided by rpcbind
12:24<Nikos>so i purged portmap and installed rpcbind
12:25<Nikos>but when installing it said update-rc.d: warning: rpcbind start runlevel arguments (S) do not match LSB Default-Start values (S 2 3 4 5)
12:25<Nikos>what to do?
12:25<Nikos>or just nothing? :)
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12:28<sney>Nikos, warnings like that are really directed at the package maintainer
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12:28<Nikos>ok so its a bug?
12:29<Nikos>that one probably :D
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12:31<sney>Nikos, you can safely ignore most warnings
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13:00<Hiob10hiob>hi, i just upgraded my wheezy and now my trackpad doesnt allow 2 finger scrolling
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13:10<kop>Hiob10hiob: You might try for help in #debian-next. They will tell you to check the bug tracking system. Testing does break.
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13:10<haotian>how can I revert these -> Note: I already ran "ip route del" on terminal
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13:17<TheDudeKnows>Hope all is well with everyone. I am trying to run rndc-confgen and it just seems to hang on me not doing anything... Not sure if it is something I am doing wrong? Any pointers?
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13:19<kop>TheDudeKnows: It's probably trying to get real random numbers. These are hard to come by.
13:20<sney>just gotta wait for some entropy to come along
13:20<Hiob10hiob>hi, after upgrading my testing, 2 finger scrolling on my mac book pro is not working any more, any suggestions?
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13:22<sney>Hiob10hiob, #debian-next
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13:25<tuxcrafter> < does somebody see what is wrong with that cronjob
13:26<tuxcrafter>whey is the inode info wrong
13:26<tuxcrafter>mon 5 crontab was used i dont see what i missed
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13:27<TheDudeKnows>Can i use dnssec-keygen instead of rndc-confgen...?
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13:34<TheDudeKnows>I was able to get it I just had to remove the rndc.conf file apparently not needed and reconfigure my named.conf. Thanks for the help.
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14:00<tuxcrafter>i used crontab -e to add the crontab then it seems to work
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14:00<tuxcrafter>no idea why i cant plug it in as system config file
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14:06<tuxcrafter>hmms maybe file perm are wrong
14:06<tuxcrafter>read some bug reports
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14:10<kop>tuxcrafter: Yah. That reminds me of a bug I filed.
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14:13<hiob10hiob>synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1
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14:47<Ginetto>ciao a tutti
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14:48<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
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14:53<hdb2>hey all, I'm trying to remove all lines in a txt file that begin with the word Manager, like so: sed '/^Manager/d' myfile.txt This works great, but how do I write those actions back into the file? or do I have to do sed blah myfile.txt > myfile_edited.txt?
14:53<kop>hdb2: Gotta write to another file, and then mv it over the original.
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14:55<indigo>hdb2: or use sed -i
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14:56<hdb2>indigo: cool! I just googled that and it appears to be what I need. thank you!
14:56<hdb2>kop: thank you for responding as well!
14:57<Parton>My location: null, Россия
14:57<Rebel>I have ahtpc pc with nvidia ion, I use pulseaudio and it work fine but only stereo, how i can set the multichannel?
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14:58<kop>hdb2: (You should really read "man less" and learn how to search the man pages so you can look up specific options in the man pages. Trusting some random stranger that google comes up with is non-optimal.)
14:58<movl>kop: if every user would do that, this channel would be silent
14:58<Rebel>I agree with movl
14:59<kop>movl: Not really. Looking up something that someone tells you here is a lot different from reading the entire document to see which option you want.
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14:59<movl>kop: man-pages have a search function
15:00<movl>and then there is google
15:00<kop>movl: Yes. And I was telling him to use that instead of searching with google.
15:00<movl>I was just dreaming of folks reading and doing their homework before asking here
15:02<Rebel>some one have set mutiaudio using hdmi?
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15:05<hdb2>I'm usually pretty good at doing my homework, but I missed this one in the man page completely. I appreciate the pointer I was given, but kop is right in suggesting the man pages.
15:05<hdb2>his point about trusting random people on the internet is well-taken...I made sure that option was in the man page and did what it said it did before trying it. :)
15:05<kop>hdb2: I missed it too. Once I knew it existed, but I don't use sed much.
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15:07<jordanm_>its a GNU-specific extension
15:08<jordanm_>well, other versions of sed might have it, but its not POSIX, and may not be available everywhere
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15:09<movl>BSD doesn't have it
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15:24<velenere>I still have a problem booting my laptop, I've downloaded Rescatux and managed to boot both Windows and debian, now on debian: os-prober does not show debian in the results only Windows
15:25<mejsa>hey guys,is there any way to back up my site(files + mysql)?
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15:26<movl>mejsa: yes, it's called Google
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15:26<sney>movl, don't be a jackass, this is a support channel
15:27<sney>mejsa, cron jobs, mysql dumps, and tar
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15:27<sney>velenere, do you have a separate /boot partition on your debian install by chance?
15:28<mejsa>sney: thank you...:)
15:28<velenere>sney, I installed debian along with my windows using the instructions from a blog, I followed everything there step by step, but I really can't answer your question, is there a command to know that?
15:29<velenere>it was working fine
15:29<velenere>until a windows update was installed and missed up something
15:29<movl>velenere: df -h
15:29<movl>and paste the output
15:29<movl>somewhere like paste,
15:29<sney>windows likes to mangle the master boot record but it shouldn't touch your debian install
15:31<sney>yep, separate /boot, you'll need that mounted before os-prober will notice
15:31<movl>velenere: maybe because /boot is extended, as opposed to primary
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15:31<movl>just maybe, I'm not sure
15:31<velenere>debian is working when I booted using Rescatux, but without Rescatux GRUB keeps on restarting
15:32<sney>if you run update-grub from within your debian install, what's the output?
15:32<velenere>I tried it, what happened is that GRUB seemed to take more time to restart, but still restarting
15:32<velenere>shall I try it again?
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15:33<sney>I would like to see the output.
15:35<Rebel>hehhehe almost figure out....
15:35<Rebel>multichannel you will be mine !!!!
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15:36<movl>looks ok to me...
15:36<velenere>so I will try a restart
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15:37<velenere>same, GRUB restarting
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15:38<movl>velenere: do you have some custom GRUB settings?
15:39<velenere>I didn't touch it
15:39<sney>some LVM thing going on too. or maybe encrypted filesystem?
15:39<velenere>I have LVM but not encrypted
15:39<velenere>plus, it was working fine for days
15:40<velenere>shall I reinstall GRUB?
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15:42<velenere>according to the information I pasted before, what is the exact command to reinstall GRUB?
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15:42<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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15:50<sney>no no
15:50<sney>grub-install /dev/sda
15:50<sney>it needs to go in the drive's boot sector.
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15:52<babilen>(also the reason why grub-install complains bitterly)
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16:24<root1>hi there
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16:25<merlin_>es mi primera vez
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16:25<root1>only french o r english please
16:25<merlin_>algien sabe español
16:25<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
16:26<movl>root1: when did we start supporting french?
16:26<juho>Hello, I have a problem with Wheezy in my laptop. It gives blank screen during boot. The graphics chip Intel's HD 3000.
16:26<root1>i'm new sorry
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16:27<juho>I can boot if I put i915.modeset=1 in the grub parameters, though then I only have vesa drivers, i suppose.
16:27<root1>and i don't know your rules
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16:27<devil>juho: join #debian-next please
16:27<juho>devil: ok, thanks
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16:55<Guest1024>Please help somebody
16:55<Guest1024>I have a Debian 2.0 system on my PC
16:55<Guest1024>if i install the xserver package -->
16:55<Guest1024>What package are need for me that my system have a desktop environment?
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16:55<sney>debian 2.0 wow
16:57<sney>I think the default desktop environment then was probably wmaker
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16:59<Guest1024>thank you
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17:05<movl>Guest1024: you should consider upgrading
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17:06<chealer>Guest1024: are you aware that Debian 2 is no longer supported?
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17:06<dvs>Like, as in rexx?
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17:07<dvs>I don't think it's possible to upgrade from hamm to squeeze.
17:08<sney>it's probably for some ludicrously old hardware, guys.
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17:10<Guest1024>this is a terminal and control PC of a regulation system
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17:10<Guest1024>an old production line
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17:31<opello>hi, i am trying to figure out how linux-headers and linux-headers-common type packages are made for an embedded project, and was hoping to get some insight (as opposed to digging through the diff of things applied to the kernel sources to make the packages)
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17:42<velasco>ME MARCHOO
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17:43<kombi>suphp drives me up the wall... How does one debug the thing?
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18:11<angasule>I have an avi + srt that I want to convert to video DVD, what is a good program with that? A simple GUI, I don't want to do advanced stuff
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18:13<aPpYe>is it possible to disable the prompt in update manager where it asks whether or not you want to do a safe-upgrade and make it always just perform a dist-upgrade?
18:14<movl>angasule: try devede
18:15<angasule>movl: not in the repos?
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18:17<movl>apparently :/
18:17<movl>I don't remember how I installed it
18:18<angasule>so... debian doesn't have anything with a GUI that can create a video dvd?
18:18<angasule>maybe k9copy? :?
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18:20<angasule>gah, is kde mid-update or something? I wonder what's wrong, aptitude is going bonkers
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18:22<movl>angasule: what do you mean?
18:22<angasule>movl: it asked to remove a bunch of stuff when I tried to install k9copy, I'm updating and checking what's going on
18:23<movl>angasule: what are you running?
18:23<movl>stable, testing....?
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18:23<angasule>movl: testing/sid
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18:24<movl>that's for #debian-next
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18:27<angasule>movl: thanks, I didn't know about next
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18:33<chealer>angasule: no
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19:02<frubi>hi guys
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19:03<frubi>have i missed something or why is the portmapping daemon missing in current debian unstable?
19:05<craigevil>frubi, search the BTS
19:05<movl>frubi: you mean rpcbind
19:05<movl>I guess
19:06<movl>second, this is a topic for #debian-next, as the topic states
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19:10<frubi>sorry for wrong channel
19:10<frubi>but thanks for the help!
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21:30<devil>hi ha
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22:52<gattytto>what's up
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23:39<sney>hi student_
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23:44<xwl>is there a way to install firefox via apt-get? iceweasel seems a little out of date.
23:44<sney>'iceweasel' is just the debian name for firefox due to licensing restrictions. that link will give you iceweasel versions much closer to the current upstream firefox release
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23:50<xwl>sney: thanks. i have used experimental before, does it mean that even if i wrote experimental in sources.list, apt-get install will select sid version by default? unless i add -t experimental.
23:50<xwl>s/have used/have not used/
23:51<sney>xwl, no no no no
23:52<sney>don't mix experimental with anything
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23:52<sney>unless you're a debian developer or experienced sid user who knows exactly what you're doing and why
23:52<sney>just add the repo mentioned on that page with the instructions for squeeze (stable)
23:53<xwl>hmm, i'm using sid.
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23:54<sney>if you're using sid then iceweasel isn't outdated by much if at all
23:54<sney>judd, versions iceweasel
23:54<judd>Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-11~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.16-11; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-13; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-13; wheezy: 10.0.3esr-2; sid: 10.0.3esr-3; experimental: 11.0-4
23:55<xwl>firefox 11 has been out for some time now.
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23:55<craigevil>and iceweasel 11 hit exp the next day
23:55<sney>so there's probably a reason it hasn't rolled into sid yet
23:56<xwl>what is the difference between sid and experimental?
23:56<sney>but if you're familiar with sid, and the, and you know how to set a default release in apt.conf, then knock yourself out. the worst you could do is break everything. ;)
23:56<sney>and for future reference, sid support goes to #debian-next. if you ask questions in here and don't mention a debian version, stable will be assumed.
23:56<craigevil>installing iw from exp only pulls in 3 packages, it works just fine
23:56<xwl>didn't know there is a #debian-next. :)
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23:58<craigevil>although it does remove xul-ext-debianbuttons if you have it installed
23:59<xwl>just installed, yeah, works well.
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