--- | Log | opened Sun Apr 08 00:00:45 2012 |
--- | Day | changed Sun Apr 08 2012 |
00:00 | <wolfpython> | scientes__: yes , slow. But it's fine in Wheezy in the same machine :- Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E6500 |
00:00 | <scientes__> | wolfpython, or is it a more critical problem? |
00:01 | <scientes__> | thats not slow |
00:01 | <wolfpython> | scientes__: Nope |
00:01 | <scientes__> | you should be using a 64-bit kernel on that |
00:01 | <scientes__> | even if using 32-bit user-space |
00:01 | <scientes__> | linux-image-amd64 is available on both |
00:02 | <wolfpython> | scientes__: hmm, kernel 64-bit while user-space 32-bit? |
00:02 | <scientes__> | yeah, its supported |
00:03 | <scientes__> | id recommend 64-bit the whole thing |
00:03 | <scientes__> | but 64-bit kernel works fine with 32-bit user-space |
00:04 | <wolfpython> | never have a try, thou :-) |
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00:04 | <scientes__> | and with multi-arch in wheezy now, you could set your default arch to 64-bit and then as you upgrade and install stuff your system will slowly become 64-bit |
00:04 | <scientes__> | wait, not upgrades, only new programs |
00:08 | <wolfpython> | scientes__:BTW, if I disable the X (tty7), tty1 becomes normal |
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00:48 | <raju> | somebody help me , my partitions(NTFS and EXT3 )re not mounting in my debain |
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01:10 | <arturo> | de donde |
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02:48 | <DebianLover> | aseem: hi |
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02:49 | <DebianLover> | aseem: yesterday i changed my grub |
02:50 | <DebianLover> | the brightness keys work well but the brightness doesn't change |
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03:11 | <cyan> | I'm having serious errors when sending files to stout. Could anyone give me some direction as to where I could find information on troubleshooting it; I havn't had any luck. |
03:11 | <cyan> | make that stdout |
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03:42 | <aseem> | DebianLover: Hey! keys work and brightness doesn't change ? |
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03:42 | <DebianLover> | aseem: yes :) |
03:43 | <DebianLover> | before the keys didn't work |
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03:44 | <aseem> | DebianLover: weird, are you on squeeze ? |
03:44 | <DebianLover> | no wheezy |
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03:47 | <DebianLover> | aseem: i'll come back soon |
03:48 | <aseem> | DebianLover: ok, buzz me when you come back :) |
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03:54 | <wolfpython> | scientes: it seems not the problem of kernel , but SLIM or lxde |
03:54 | <wolfpython> | I install gdm3 and gnome, it works fine |
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04:12 | <scientes> | wolf hmmm |
04:12 | <scientes> | guess hes gone |
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04:30 | <wolfpython> | scientes: It's really the problem of SLIM.** http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=475249 ** |
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04:45 | <Axz> | Guys i'm stuck with nvidia drivers |
04:45 | <Axz> | how to install geforce drivers?! |
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04:46 | <valdyn> | Axz: whats wrong with nvidia drivers? |
04:47 | <Axz> | installing them?! |
04:47 | <Axz> | cant find the package |
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04:47 | <valdyn> | Axz: youre stuck with them but cant find the package? how does that make sense? |
04:47 | <Axz> | Nouveau drivers are installed but i want the native |
04:48 | <valdyn> | Axz: ok |
04:48 | <valdyn> | !non-free |
04:48 | <dpkg> | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
04:48 | <valdyn> | !nvidia |
04:48 | <dpkg> | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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04:49 | <ttl-> | hi everyone |
04:49 | <ttl-> | how can i get better font quality in Wheezy |
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04:51 | <scientes> | ttl-, i like ming-fonts-dejavu |
04:52 | <scientes> | wait thats ming |
04:52 | <valdyn> | ttl-: install gwaterfall and run waterfall and play with settings till you know what you really want |
04:53 | <ttl-> | i just want smooth fonts, now the look a bit dirty |
04:53 | <valdyn> | ttl-: and were supposed to guess what you mean |
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04:54 | <ttl-> | i found some articles about a patched version of libcairo2... |
04:54 | <valdyn> | ttl-: some fonts just look dirty no matter what |
04:54 | <valdyn> | ttl-: some fonts just scale badly |
04:55 | <Osiris_X> | can someone tell me what the '+' in the following bash script code does: ff="${kernelabi#+([^-])-@(trunk|+([0-9]))-}" |
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04:56 | <ttl-> | valdyn: strange that the same fonts look smooth in ubuntu... but i don't like ubuntu that much... |
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04:56 | <nevyn> | define dirty. |
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04:57 | <valdyn> | ttl-: just do what i said above. That is not hard |
04:57 | <nevyn> | AA? |
04:57 | <ttl-> | valdyn: ok thanks |
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04:57 | <nevyn> | as in antialiasing. |
04:57 | <valdyn> | i know people who find AA dirty, depending on display |
04:59 | <ttl-> | nevyn: not smooth, spacing variations betweens characters, etc.. |
04:59 | <ttl-> | going to try wat valdyn said |
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05:06 | <nevyn> | valdyn: right. |
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05:07 | <nevyn> | science disagrees with them but whatever |
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05:32 | <pestr> | hi, all |
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05:50 | <DebianLover> | does somebody have any ideas how i can fix the brightness of my mini laptop samsung n148 |
05:50 | <DebianLover> | i cannot change it |
05:50 | <devil_> | you can workaround it with xbacklight |
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05:51 | <DebianLover> | the screen is a bit dark |
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05:52 | <DebianLover> | wheezy runs on the laptop |
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06:02 | <DebianLover> | i have installed xbacklight but it doesn't change the brightness |
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06:02 | <devil_> | DebianLover: it does for me |
06:02 | <dany> | list |
06:02 | <zack2> | hai how to unistall debian ?> |
06:02 | <devil_> | zack2: overwrite it? |
06:02 | <DebianLover> | devil_: do you have samsung n148? |
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06:03 | <devil_> | no |
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06:03 | <dany> | !list |
06:03 | <dpkg> | dany: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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06:46 | <DebianLover> | devil: do you have intel n10 family graphic controller? |
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07:05 | <devil> | no |
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07:22 | <raju> | while try to launch anything rom terminal i am getting this error "No protocol specified " |
07:22 | <raju> | (gedit:3762): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
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07:28 | <raju> | ok solved |
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07:32 | <FANTASY> | CIAO |
07:32 | <sIMson> | coming in and out like a master? ;] |
07:34 | <Araneae> | Guys, I have an old laptop that I was trying to get running with any distro atm. But it keeps popping 'Critical temperature reached' messages. I used a can of compressed air and I think it's pretty clean on the vents. |
07:34 | <abrotman> | Araneae: how old? |
07:34 | <Araneae> | HP Dv5000 August 2006 |
07:34 | <abrotman> | oh, so still a PIII or PIV |
07:34 | <sIMson> | 2006? |
07:34 | <Araneae> | A centrino duo |
07:34 | <sIMson> | rather P4 |
07:35 | <abrotman> | is acpi installed and running |
07:35 | <Araneae> | It has Windows xp on it, which doesn't boot |
07:35 | <sIMson> | no wonder ;] |
07:35 | <EmleyMoor> | I am changing ISP this coming week, to one with native IPv6 support. Anything special I need to be aware of when setting up addresses for my systems? |
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07:35 | <Araneae> | I have a feeling I would have to reseat the heatsink.. |
07:36 | <sIMson> | maybe try checking in BIOS if the temperature is really on an acceptable level |
07:36 | <Araneae> | Ah sec |
07:36 | <sIMson> | if it does not overheat |
07:36 | <abrotman> | and ACPI? |
07:37 | <sIMson> | dunno what bios do you have but afaik both award and phoenix should show the temperature |
07:37 | <sIMson> | and btw. what distro do you wanna use? |
07:37 | <Araneae> | Debian |
07:37 | <Araneae> | Lol |
07:37 | <sIMson> | Squeeze? |
07:37 | <Araneae> | Yes |
07:37 | <sIMson> | I'm running Wheezy |
07:37 | <sIMson> | that's whi I asked |
07:37 | <sIMson> | why* |
07:37 | <Araneae> | Alrighty :) |
07:38 | <Araneae> | Pheonix BIOS and does not show the temperature |
07:38 | <sIMson> | uh :/ |
07:38 | <sIMson> | check if ACPI is on |
07:38 | <Araneae> | Good god, I have systems older than this that do this -.- |
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07:39 | <suen> | What does "CIAO" mean? |
07:39 | <abrotman> | suen: ask google |
07:39 | <sIMson> | kinda like "see ta" |
07:39 | <sIMson> | ya* |
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07:39 | <abrotman> | Araneae: boot the OS, make sure you have acpi and acpid installed |
07:40 | <suen> | Google does not work well in my country! |
07:40 | <sIMson> | lolz |
07:40 | <sIMson> | where are ya from? :D |
07:40 | <suen> | China |
07:40 | <sIMson> | ah |
07:40 | <sIMson> | explains a lot |
07:40 | <Araneae> | abrotman: I can't boot it, even the netinstall disk heats it up midway installation |
07:41 | <abrotman> | sIMson: stop using the enter key every third word |
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07:41 | <abrotman> | Araneae: have you tried setting the laptop vertically so it vents up ? |
07:41 | <Araneae> | That's .. a good idea |
07:41 | <Araneae> | xD |
07:41 | <Araneae> | Sec |
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07:43 | <Araneae> | Nope, doesn't work :/ |
07:43 | <sIMson> | even after leaving the lap for a longer while to let it cool down? |
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07:44 | <Araneae> | Ye, I have a fan blowing into it aswell |
07:44 | <Araneae> | More of a hardware issue than anything |
07:44 | <abrotman> | Araneae: sounds like it's time to head over to ##hardware on freenode and begin surgery |
07:44 | <Araneae> | :< |
07:44 | <abrotman> | (sounds like fun to me) |
07:45 | <Araneae> | If I don't make it worse hah |
07:45 | <suen> | Does heatsink works? |
07:45 | <Araneae> | suen: I think it works, but it isn't seated properly |
07:45 | <suen> | Maybe |
07:46 | <Araneae> | The fan starts running like a helicopter rotor |
07:46 | <sIMson> | might be a damaged thermal sensor (just guessing) |
07:46 | <abrotman> | okay .. off to ##hardware .. |
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07:46 | <Araneae> | Thanks for the help guys |
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07:49 | <alcatraz> | ciao a tutti |
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08:24 | <poree> | hi |
08:25 | <Edinho> | hi |
08:27 | <Edinho> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508029 |
08:28 | <Edinho> | any? |
08:28 | <abrotman> | any what? |
08:28 | <Edinho> | to solve the bug |
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08:30 | <suen> | /etc/fstab |
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08:37 | <biggens1> | hello? |
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08:38 | <biggens1> | hello? |
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08:38 | <abrotman> | yes? |
08:38 | <biggens1> | hello? |
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08:39 | <suen> | ? |
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08:40 | <biggens1> | my problem is my debian is saying "cannot open dedian". |
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08:42 | <abrotman> | you're going to have to give us more detail |
08:42 | <biggens1> | ok |
08:42 | <suen> | oh my god,are you kidding? |
08:43 | <biggens1> | oh my goodness. |
08:44 | <biggens1> | ok my debain is not working proper there is a error every time i use it |
08:45 | <suen> | more? |
08:45 | <biggens1> | ugh no |
08:45 | <biggens1> | can you help?\ |
08:45 | <abrotman> | you haven't told us anything |
08:46 | <abrotman> | !tell biggens1 about ask |
08:46 | <suen> | y |
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08:47 | <biggens1> | well debain is having a problem that i don't know about\ |
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08:47 | <Rydekull> | biggens1: You need to be verbose, tell us what hardware you are using, tell us what you are doing when it says "cannot open debian", tell us by showing us a screenshot, photo, logs, anything. (And please, if you want to show us logs, use pastebin.com or paste.debian.net |
08:47 | <biggens1> | never mind |
08:48 | <abrotman> | you didn't even tell us anything to nevermind! :) |
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08:48 | <Rydekull> | we arent psychics, good luck on solving your problem biggens1 :-) |
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08:48 | <abrotman> | i've gotten more useful information from a National Enquirer .. |
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08:50 | <nip> | hello? |
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08:51 | <nip> | hello??? |
08:51 | <abrotman> | hi |
08:51 | <suen> | hi |
08:51 | <Rydekull> | hiho |
08:52 | <abrotman> | nip: do you think changing nicks will change that you haven't given us any details? |
08:52 | <nip> | huh |
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08:52 | <Rydekull> | haha |
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08:53 | <Rydekull> | we arent psychics, good luck on solving your problem biggens1 :-) |
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08:54 | <aseem> | troll |
08:54 | <biggens1_> | hi i will cool you down with ice cream |
08:54 | <biggens1_> | hello??? |
08:55 | <abrotman> | is this supposed to be funny? |
08:55 | <biggens1> | yes |
08:55 | <movl> | well it ain't |
08:55 | <biggens1> | o |
08:55 | <movl> | if you have aproblem, state it |
08:56 | <movl> | *a problem |
08:56 | <biggens1> | what is your problem??? |
08:57 | <movl> | multiple question marks, for starters |
08:57 | <abrotman> | biggens1: Do you need help with Debian or are you just here to cause problems? |
08:57 | <abrotman> | movl: try /ignore |
08:57 | <suen> | IIt seems I need to study English hard |
08:57 | <movl> | good point |
08:57 | <suen> | It seems I need to study English hard |
08:57 | <biggens1> | abrotman ban movl |
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08:58 | <abrotman> | biggens1: Please go play somewhere else |
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09:01 | <indigo> | is there a way i can build a kernel from the linux-source packages such that i get something appended to the package name, similarly to the linux-image-2.6.23-xen packages and such? |
09:02 | <indigo> | i'm trying to build a kernel for xen domus and i'd like it to coexist with kernels i build for the dom0. |
09:02 | <abrotman> | !tell indigo about kp mantra |
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09:03 | <abrotman> | seriously? |
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09:05 | <indigo> | hm...i've been doing builds with "make deb-pkg". Is this different? |
09:05 | <movl> | cupiepop\\: really? |
09:05 | <abrotman> | movl: try /ignore |
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09:20 | <pokoloko> | hello all |
09:21 | <pokoloko> | I am having a slight problem with Network manager and the applet. They only seem to connect to saved wireless networks, no scan so i cannot connect to a new network :( |
09:21 | <movl> | what network card? |
09:21 | <movl> | wi-fi |
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09:22 | <pokoloko> | yes wlan |
09:22 | <movl> | I know, what brand and type is it? |
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09:26 | <boink3> | hi |
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09:27 | <boink3> | i am biggens1 |
09:27 | <SaZha> | gruess gott |
09:27 | <boink3> | what |
09:27 | <SaZha> | bin ich hier richtig? |
09:27 | <boink3> | what |
09:27 | <abrotman> | !de |
09:27 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
09:27 | <SaZha> | !de |
09:27 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
09:28 | <SaZha> | kewl |
09:28 | <boink3> | ok |
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09:28 | <boink3> | i am biggens1 abrotman |
09:29 | <abrotman> | and what? |
09:29 | <abrotman> | do you want a yogi pin? |
09:29 | <boink3> | huh |
09:29 | <pokoloko> | ill check the detail its a atheros AR5001 |
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09:30 | <boink3> | this is my real problem. my debian is not starting |
09:30 | <abrotman> | that's not descriptive .. we can't help you with that |
09:30 | <abrotman> | either give us more detail, or stop yapping |
09:30 | <boink3> | ok i will ask a buddy of mine instead |
09:31 | <abrotman> | okay |
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09:31 | <pokoloko> | trolls will be trolls |
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09:33 | <pokoloko> | So ive searched on how to fix the problem but to no avail, nm is still not scanning for networks just connecting to saved |
09:34 | <abrotman> | can you use iwlist to scan ? |
09:34 | <pokoloko> | no iwlist comes up blank |
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09:35 | <abrotman> | what command did you actually use? |
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09:35 | <pokoloko> | iwlist :D |
09:36 | <abrotman> | try again .. |
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09:38 | <aseem> | pokoloko: acer ? |
09:38 | <pokoloko> | ok did iwlist wlan0 scan came up with a network |
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09:39 | <pokoloko> | aseem no Samsung N120 |
09:39 | <abrotman> | pokoloko: so it's not a driver problem? did you try as a new user on the box? |
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09:39 | <pokoloko> | let me check 1 second |
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09:39 | <boink3> | excuse me may i ask how does the new debian 6.0.4 works |
09:39 | <aseem> | pokoloko: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/16955/no-wireless-atheros-ar5001/ |
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09:40 | <boink3> | b |
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09:41 | <boink3> | oops |
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09:42 | <pokoloko> | abortman new user cant scan either |
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09:42 | <pokoloko> | aseem reading your link now |
09:43 | <boink3> | excuse me may i ask how does the new debian 6.0.4 works??? |
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09:47 | <plomiyo> | debain is a junk software |
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09:48 | <plomiyo> | pross not pros |
09:48 | <abrotman> | plomiyo: do you need help ? |
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09:48 | <plomiyo> | yes i have the flu |
09:48 | <daemonkeeper> | To find the exit, yes. |
09:49 | <movl> | is this troll Sunday or wtf |
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09:49 | <abrotman> | movl: you can /part if you can't handle it |
09:49 | <movl> | .. |
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09:52 | <pokoloko> | aseem iwlist does indeed find networks it must be a network manager problem would dowgrading do the trick ? |
09:53 | <aseem> | pokoloko: did it for me :), I have the same driver , its a PITA :P |
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09:57 | <samu> | hola |
09:58 | <abrotman> | !es |
09:58 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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10:00 | <Axz> | Guys getting this error on apt-get update> Segmentation fault |
10:01 | <abrotman> | Axz: please use a pastebin |
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10:03 | <abrotman> | or not ... |
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10:04 | <aseem> | abrotman: people don't have patience these days, i guess |
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10:06 | <Infiltrator> | Is there a .makerc (or global) file where I can tell make to by default spawn 4 jobs and override with -j1 or -jx if necessary? I know I can "alias make='make -j4'", but is there a global and shell-indpendent way? |
10:07 | <abrotman> | /etc/environment maybe? |
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10:07 | <abrotman> | Infiltrator: though if it's a multiuesr box,, is that a good idea? |
10:08 | <Infiltrator> | abrotman: Well, perhaps set 2 as the default; just looking for the way to do it. Also, generally, it's not a multi-user box anyway; but I do see your point. |
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10:10 | <Infiltrator> | Also, I don't have an /etc/environment file; nor does man tell me anything about it. Can I go ahead and create one? And what's the format? |
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10:13 | <Infiltrator> | Though, for the multi-user problem, you can use the --max-load argument. |
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10:16 | <redeeman> | hello, i am trying to understand how to use the init system in debian. i am on squeeze so i believe its dependency based now. can someone point me to some documentation that explains how to enable/disable services for startup. My goal right now is to prevent certain services from being autostarted, but I ofcourse still wish them to be shut down when rebooting etc. I am also given to understand that under some conditions upgrading a package |
10:16 | <redeeman> | will reset this? |
10:16 | <Infiltrator> | And I cannot seem to find any way to make make read environment variables for its own options; it can read them and pass them on to gcc and the like, but I haven't found out how to pass _make_ arguments via the environment... Reading http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Environment.html |
10:17 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: I know you can use update-rc.d to change when it starts/stops. |
10:17 | <redeeman> | what about insserv then? |
10:18 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: Though I'm not sure about the reset conditions. |
10:18 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: insserv should just be update-rc.d-insserv. |
10:18 | <redeeman> | but i wish to understand how it all works |
10:18 | <redeeman> | otherwise i cant comfortably use it :) |
10:19 | <Infiltrator> | Though the man page says that 'update-rc.d-insserv' is obsolete. |
10:20 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: Well, have a read of 'man update-rc.d'. |
10:20 | <Infiltrator> | That should explain most of it. |
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10:36 | <meanmachine> | hi |
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10:40 | <redeeman> | Infiltrator, yeah, but it doesnt seem like it can do what i want, i want to only have it shutdown apache2 for instance, during reboot/shutdown, but never autostart it |
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10:41 | <redeeman> | and update-rc.d seems very determined to either rename S's to K's, or K's to S's |
10:42 | <movl> | Infiltrator: so add apache to runlevels 0 and 6 |
10:42 | <movl> | maybe have a look at sysv-rc-conf as well |
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10:45 | <redeeman> | movl, how? if i try: update-rc.d apache2 stop 0 6 it also adds S symlinks |
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10:46 | <movl> | see if it works tho |
10:46 | <redeeman> | i did, and it also adds start symlinks |
10:47 | <Infiltrator> | If I do 'update-rc.d apache2 disable', then it says it puts it into stop for all run levels (0-6). |
10:47 | <Infiltrator> | Is that what you want? |
10:47 | <movl> | I understand. I was referring to rebooting to see if it says "stoppping apache..." or somesuch |
10:48 | <redeeman> | well i dont want it to stop it at all runlevels, only 0/6 |
10:48 | <redeeman> | i think i'll just erase some symlinks manually |
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10:51 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: My bad. Doing 'update-rc.d apache2 stop 0 6' and 'update-rc.d apache2 start' (with no runlevels, it doesn't start at all) should be what you're looking for. |
10:52 | <redeeman> | doesnt work, it still adds S symlinks for 2,3,4,5 |
10:53 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: Are you talking about insserv or update-rc.d? |
10:53 | <redeeman> | update-rc.d |
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10:54 | <Infiltrator> | You mean /etc/rcS.d/, correct? Because it doesn't add them for me... :\ |
10:54 | <redeeman> | update-rc.d apache2 stop 0 6 <-- this adds them for me |
10:55 | <redeeman> | http://pastebin.com/FK9BcU64 |
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10:58 | <redeeman> | but i think i will just manage symlinks myself, erasing all S-apache and then erasing all K-apache not in 0/6 should work, no? |
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11:04 | <s4br3> | How do make sure that the command 'aticonfig --pplib-cmd "set fanspeed 0 35"' is run after every reboot? |
11:04 | <redeeman> | does that work before your X is started? |
11:04 | <redeeman> | you could look into using /etc/rc.local |
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11:06 | <s4br3> | If I don't run that my GPU fans wil go 75% and be too noisy. With this they go don to 35%. But as they go up again when I log out and come to KDM, they go up again. So, they are user conytrolled |
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11:12 | <Neko136679> | hello |
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11:13 | <Neko136679> | how do i use this irc? :( first time using this |
11:13 | <pokoloko> | aseem fix was easier than that |
11:14 | <suen> | actually so do I |
11:14 | <mns> | hi, somebody knows why the debian main archive are so slow? |
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11:14 | <daemonkeeper> | slow as in? |
11:14 | <mns> | i can't finish an aptitude update |
11:14 | <pokoloko> | you just needed to edit networkmanager.conf to true |
11:14 | <daemonkeeper> | Try another mirror |
11:14 | <SaZha> | Neko136679, cool...me is new too |
11:15 | <Neko136679> | debian isnt booting on my laptop |
11:15 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: See http://paste.debian.net/162515/ |
11:15 | <suen> | SaZha,cool.. me is new too |
11:15 | <mns> | everything else is fast, but aptitude |
11:15 | <abrotman> | mns: use a different mirror .. use one near you |
11:15 | <Neko136679> | cool its easy to use |
11:15 | <mns> | abrotman: i'll try that |
11:15 | <suen> | yes,it is |
11:15 | <abrotman> | mns: you definitely shouldn't be using ftp.debian.org |
11:15 | <abrotman> | mns: where are you geographically |
11:15 | <abrotman> | ? |
11:15 | <mns> | but it's the first time it happens |
11:15 | <mns> | abrotman: brazil |
11:16 | <abrotman> | mns: there's ftp.br.debian.org .. and a few others |
11:16 | <aseem> | pokoloko: what did you do ? |
11:16 | <SaZha> | i love it |
11:16 | <abrotman> | mns: see, debian.org/mirrors/list .. pick the one near you |
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11:16 | <mns> | abrotman: i'll try that, thanks |
11:16 | * | abrotman tends to use edu or gov mirrors if he can |
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11:17 | <Infiltrator> | redeeman: So basically you need to 'update-rc.d foo disable'. Unfortunately, this does mean that every time you change runlevels, it will stop it. |
11:17 | <suen> | Do someone come from China? |
11:17 | <abrotman> | !zh |
11:17 | <dpkg> | 如果您想得到中文的帮助,请您移步本服务器上的#debian-zh频道,进入方式是在您现在输入文字的输入框中输入"/join #debian-zh" (不含引号),谢谢您的合作如果您想要得到中文的協助,請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道,加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號),謝謝您的合作! |
11:17 | <abrotman> | *blink* |
11:17 | <Infiltrator> | Ouch. |
11:17 | <Neko136679> | how can i install grub to my MBR without usb or debian disks? |
11:17 | <suen> | dpkg |
11:17 | <Neko136679> | anyone know? |
11:17 | <mns> | abrotman: just try to update my wheezy |
11:17 | <Infiltrator> | Bad dpkg. |
11:17 | <Rydekull> | haha, that was nice |
11:17 | <mns> | abrotman: thanks anyway |
11:17 | <suen> | dpkg,are you Chinese? |
11:17 | * | Rydekull can even read some of that! |
11:17 | <dpkg> | suen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
11:17 | <Rydekull> | suen: its a bot |
11:17 | <SaZha> | how to get familiar with that nerdy computer girl with long blonde hair an 90-60-90 sitting around there |
11:17 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: Do you have Debian running? |
11:17 | <Rydekull> | suen: Please read the message |
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11:18 | <suen> | ok |
11:18 | * | nevyn get's glyphs not just wierd boxes... |
11:18 | <nevyn> | awesome. |
11:18 | <SaZha> | !dpkg |
11:18 | <dpkg> | hmm... dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
11:18 | <Neko136679> | Infiltrator: i installed it yesterday it was running....i was getting 2 boot screens one grub abd other windows 7 |
11:18 | <Infiltrator> | nevyn: I got glyphs with random line breaks... took up half my screen. :P |
11:18 | <SaZha> | !init |
11:18 | <dpkg> | from memory, init is the init daemon, or ask me about <runlevels>, or <inittab> |
11:18 | <Neko136679> | so i tried fixing it and now grub is gone |
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11:19 | <nevyn> | Infiltrator: :( I got 3 lines |
11:19 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: Ah, as in you installed windoze's bootloader into the MBR? |
11:19 | <daemonkeeper> | dpkg: tell SaZha about msg the bot |
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11:19 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: You'll need a cd (netinst should do) or some other way of booting into Debian to fix that. |
11:19 | <SaZha> | Neko136679, if you dont use XFS you might install grub on the partitionside, so you just need to install a std mbr and activate this partition |
11:20 | <Neko136679> | Infiltrator: i am using easyBCD now after my system didnt boot |
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11:20 | <Neko136679> | also my dvd/cd drive doesnt work anymore |
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11:20 | <Neko136679> | i did a network install |
11:20 | <abrotman> | !msg the bot |
11:20 | <dpkg> | Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . If you're helping people, you can check that you have the right factoid before showing it to others. |
11:20 | <abrotman> | and/or use "dpkg: tell bar about foo" |
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11:20 | <pokoloko> | thanx for the help abrotman and aseem, wish you guys the best of luck :) |
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11:21 | <abrotman> | where we're going, we don't need luck |
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11:21 | <suen> | 英语有点难 |
11:22 | <abrotman> | suen: english only here |
11:22 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: You might be able to find a GRUB installer for windoze, but I'd reccomend just running the Debian installer again, in rescue mode. |
11:22 | <suen> | ok |
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11:22 | <suen> | i see |
11:22 | <Infiltrator> | abrotman: You mean you don't need luck here? :P |
11:22 | * | SaZha suen |
11:22 | <Rydekull> | suen: go to #debian-zn if you want Chinese :-) |
11:22 | <abrotman> | cn or zh .. not zn |
11:22 | <Infiltrator> | suen: As dpkg said, there's a Chinese channel. |
11:22 | <Neko136679> | Inflitrator: thanks i will look up but so far it hasnt worked |
11:22 | <Rydekull> | suen: I think its a bit empty, but yeah, someone might come around |
11:23 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: What exactly hasn't worked? |
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11:23 | <suen> | my god |
11:23 | <Neko136679> | i used super grub disk 2 to boot |
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11:23 | <Infiltrator> | ...why does my terminal title display glyphs? :( |
11:23 | <Neko136679> | but couldnt get debian to boot |
11:24 | <abrotman> | Infiltrator: your font or your locale |
11:24 | <Neko136679> | it said "file not found" initrd and kernel |
11:24 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: If you run it from windoze, you'll need to install ext2 for it to be able to realise that you have a linux kernel. |
11:24 | <Infiltrator> | Otherwise it can't read your ext2/3/4 partitions. |
11:24 | <Neko136679> | i have ext2fs installed |
11:25 | <Infiltrator> | abrotman: Nah, it was suen and/or dpkg. Re-connecting fixed it. |
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11:25 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: Can you browse your debian partitions? |
11:25 | <Neko136679> | 1 sec i will check |
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11:27 | <suen> | I can read not write |
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11:27 | <Neko136679> | Infiltrator: i can read only |
11:27 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: According to http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ you should be able to boot into your Debian system. |
11:27 | <Neko136679> | yes i checked it but debian isnt booting |
11:28 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: What does it say? |
11:28 | <Neko136679> | i have been browsing endlessly since yesterday and ended up here |
11:28 | <SaZha> | Neko136679, you looked up the files and partitions by pressing TAB? |
11:28 | <Neko136679> | Infiltrator: there are only 2 files lost and found and user |
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11:29 | <SaZha> | Neko136679, doesnt look like a GNU/Debian System-Tree |
11:29 | <Neko136679> | its the root partition |
11:29 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: Does super grub2 disk find your Debian install? |
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11:29 | <Infiltrator> | Neko136679: If that's all you have in your rootfs, then it sounds like your partition got nukes. |
11:30 | <Infiltrator> | s/nukes/nuked/ |
11:30 | <Neko136679> | Infiltrator: it read from previous grub file and showed up debian on boot screen |
11:30 | <Neko136679> | but when i tried debian wasnt up |
11:30 | <Neko136679> | just got black screen and blinking little dash on left corner of screen for 30 minutes |
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11:31 | <Infiltrator> | And all you have in your rootfs is lost+found/ and user/? |
11:31 | <suen> | Learn English tomorrow and forgive me,thanks! |
11:31 | <Neko136679> | yes |
11:31 | <Neko136679> | only those two folders |
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11:33 | <Infiltrator> | And no other partitions? |
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11:33 | <SaZha> | user/ what a folder...even dont know it by default on std-File-Tree |
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11:33 | <Neko136679> | there is another partition |
11:33 | <SaZha> | sure you dont mount that on /home ? |
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11:33 | <SaZha> | and the other partition is / |
11:33 | <Neko136679> | with many folders i think its the root partition maybe |
11:33 | <SaZha> | haha |
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11:33 | <SaZha> | nice handsome game |
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11:34 | <Neko136679> | omg i made a mistake with root path in grub |
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11:34 | <Neko136679> | i will try rebooting and see if it works with the right sd# |
11:35 | <SaZha> | is ok...it just enhanced the mainstream logic in my backup sector of 'help me out of linux'-brain |
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11:36 | * | SaZha needs help |
11:36 | * | SaZha is looking for a girl |
11:36 | <Neko136679> | i m a girl |
11:36 | <SaZha> | yes yes |
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11:42 | <rufian> | Hello, I want a tutorial for writing patches for Debian packages. |
11:42 | <rufian> | Do you know some? |
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11:42 | <daemonkeeper> | !NMG |
11:42 | <dpkg> | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
11:43 | <mejsa> | hey guys,how do i reboot system without root acess? ive got some very interesting sytuation,woke up and i cant acess root |
11:44 | <daemonkeeper> | You can't. Root it. |
11:44 | <daemonkeeper> | (or hit the power button) |
11:44 | <suen> | good idea |
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11:45 | <fnmueller> | depeding on the system configuration ctrl+alt+del can be used |
11:46 | <Infiltrator> | Or REIBUS. |
11:46 | <sney> | single tap of the power button should give you an acpi shutdown |
11:47 | <Infiltrator> | REISUB* - it's good not to get the order mixed up. :P |
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11:53 | <mejsa> | ok,thganks guys,and what should be the problem,i wanna login to root,but i get: setgid: operation not permitted, any idea? |
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11:55 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: What gives you that? su? sudo? gksu? |
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11:56 | <rufian> | REISUB - the most used tool for linux ATi users. |
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11:56 | <movl> | :P |
11:57 | <Zaba> | I concur |
11:57 | <Infiltrator> | Haha. Isn't it disabled by default now, though? |
11:58 | <mejsa> | Infiltrator: su, sudos gives "sudo:must be setuid root" |
11:58 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: Wow; that's messed up. What did you do? |
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11:59 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: Also, have you tried booting into the so-called rescue mode? From memory, there's a way to jump right into a root shell without a login. |
11:59 | <aravind> | ya |
11:59 | <aravind> | change rw /bin/bash |
11:59 | <mejsa> | Infiltrator: don't know exactly,yesterday i was changing persmission to /var/www thats alll,and today i cant acess via SSH and proftpd is not working either,getting http://twitpic.com/97cson |
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12:00 | <mejsa> | Infiltrator: ill try |
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12:00 | <sney> | I smell a chmod -r / var/www or so |
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12:01 | <Infiltrator> | rm -rf / is the way to go. |
12:01 | <mejsa> | sney: web works perfectly |
12:01 | <daemonkeeper> | Infiltrator: Do not _EVER_ give such advises. kthxbye |
12:02 | <Infiltrator> | daemonkeeper: Doesn't rm have a safety built into it that'll stop that, anyway? |
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12:02 | <nevyn> | Infiltrator: nope |
12:02 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: I can't make out anything in that photo; sorry. |
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12:03 | <Infiltrator> | nevyn: According to the man page and my rm, yes. |
12:03 | <Infiltrator> | Just did 'rm -rf /'. |
12:03 | <daemonkeeper> | You set alias rm="rm -i" |
12:04 | <jelly-home> | good heavens, I absolutely HATE that alias on RHEL |
12:04 | <Infiltrator> | daemonkeeper: The man page says that '--preserve-root' is the default. |
12:04 | <Infiltrator> | So unless you say '--no-preserve-root', it will refuse to do that. |
12:04 | <sney> | but anyway |
12:04 | <Infiltrator> | sney: Good point. |
12:05 | <sney> | I still think my theory holds water |
12:05 | <sney> | if mejsa changed the permissions of _everything_ to what he wanted in /var/www, then /var/www would work as expected and everything else would be weird |
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12:06 | <Infiltrator> | For those interested: http://paste.debian.net/162517/ |
12:06 | <Infiltrator> | sney: That seems most likely, yes. |
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12:06 | <mejsa> | sney: you mean like i didn't change /var/www but for entihre /var/ folder ? |
12:06 | <sney> | I mean you probably changed / |
12:06 | <Infiltrator> | Except it seems that the setuid bit on /bin/sudo has also been turned off; which is odd. |
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12:07 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: What does 'ls -al /bin/sudo /bin/su' show? |
12:08 | <Infiltrator> | /usr/bin/sudo, that is |
12:08 | <Infiltrator> | Or '`which sudo` `which su`' to be extra sure, I suppose. |
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12:08 | <abrotman> | wtf hat ... |
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12:09 | <Infiltrator> | abrotman: You lost your wtf hat? Or are you just mad at it? |
12:09 | <mejsa> | /usr/bin/sudo doesnt exist |
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12:09 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: Try '`which sudo`' then. |
12:10 | <abrotman> | or ls -al $(which sudo) ? |
12:10 | <Infiltrator> | ls -al $(which sudo) $(which su) |
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12:11 | <mejsa> | oh,its a| no al :-),so sudo:/etc/sudoers is mode 0777,should be 0440 and second line: no valid sudoesrs sources found,quitting |
12:13 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: No, not a pipe; the letter l |
12:13 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: Copy paste the line above. |
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12:14 | <mejsa> | oh,okay... im messed up :-),i cant copy it,:-( |
12:14 | <chommik> | hello |
12:14 | <mejsa> | but it looks like everything is is -rwrwrwx :-( |
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12:15 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: There's your problem. :P |
12:16 | <Infiltrator> | It should be -rwsr-xr-x |
12:16 | <mejsa> | damn,how to fix it ? |
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12:17 | <mejsa> | rm -rf * ? |
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12:17 | <Infiltrator> | chmod 4755, I think. |
12:18 | <Infiltrator> | _only_ for sudo and su, though. |
12:18 | <Infiltrator> | Of course, you won't be able to. |
12:18 | <Infiltrator> | If you know the root password, pull up one of the other terminals ([Ctrl+]Alt+F2) and log in directly as root. |
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12:19 | <Infiltrator> | Then do 'chmod 4755 $(which sudo)' and log back out. You should be able to sudo after that. |
12:19 | <mejsa> | i have permision to the root,.. |
12:19 | <Infiltrator> | And you can fix whatever else. |
12:20 | <mejsa> | account... |
12:20 | <chommik> | i've reported a bug in quotatool's github, patch has been commited to source, however upstream author didn't change version number |
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12:21 | <chommik> | should i poke him or quotatool maintainer to update the package? |
12:21 | <jack24> | can i patch the windows 7 kernel into the debian kernel? maybe using a pipe? |
12:21 | <jack24> | pipe it through gcc maybe? |
12:22 | <Infiltrator> | jack24: ... |
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12:22 | <Infiltrator> | chommik: If it's in upstream, I think probably maintainer. |
12:23 | <chommik> | he'd commited to git, but upstream version is still the same |
12:23 | <jack24> | could i do that through a symlink in grub? |
12:23 | <Infiltrator> | jack24: What are you trying to accomplish, exactly? |
12:23 | <jack24> | i could dual boot grub and lilo and symlink them together |
12:23 | <mejsa> | Infinator,is there any way how to get back the attributes of files/folder to previously |
12:23 | <jack24> | i want to get the APIs |
12:23 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: Only if you know what to set them to. |
12:23 | <jack24> | looking to establish full native binary compatibility |
12:23 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: Though 755 is a safe bet for folders and 644 for files. |
12:24 | <mejsa> | okay,so reinstall would work ? right ? :D |
12:24 | <Infiltrator> | jack24: I suspect that you either don't know what you're talking about or being an arse? |
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12:24 | <Infiltrator> | mejsa: If you don't mind losing everything, that would probably be the simplest way, yes. |
12:24 | <jack24> | well, why can't i makeinstall this? |
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12:25 | <Infiltrator> | arse it is. |
12:25 | <Infiltrator> | !ops jack24 |
12:25 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: infiltrator complains about: jack24 |
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12:25 | <jack24> | :( |
12:25 | <jack24> | having a bad day or something? |
12:25 | <Infiltrator> | !ot |
12:25 | <dpkg> | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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13:49 | <sney_> | ? |
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14:22 | <injureddeer> | hello, how can i download dm-crypt source from debian repo? because i wanna edit libcryptsetup and compile |
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14:24 | <devil> | injureddeer: you have a line starting with deb src in your sources.list. it might be commented with a #. remove that |
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14:27 | <demoniccow> | Hi, i recently installed my nvidia drivers and now when im in terminal (no GUI launched) the text dosnt fit on the screen. And the font apears bigger than before. |
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14:28 | <sney_> | demoniccow: yep, the nvidia driver disables the console framebuffer |
14:28 | <demoniccow> | Is there anyway to fix that? |
14:28 | <sney_> | demoniccow: you'll need to set a gfxpayload or vga parameter for grub to raise the resolution |
14:28 | <demoniccow> | sney_, how would i do that? |
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14:29 | <sney_> | https://www.google.ca/search?q=gfxpayload |
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14:29 | <demoniccow> | thanks, ill check it out |
14:30 | <devil> | i think, vga=foo is depricated. it is in sid anyways |
14:30 | <devil> | KMS does not like vga=foo |
14:30 | <sney_> | devil: it's been officially deprecated for a while, but generally still works with a warning. but it doesn't support non-4:3/5:4 displays |
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14:31 | <demoniccow> | how would i configure it with vga= with a screen of a 1280x1024 resolution? |
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14:32 | <sney_> | I don't remember the number, want another google link? I think it starts with 77 |
14:32 | <devil> | demoniccow: gfxpayload is future-safe |
14:33 | <demoniccow> | then how exactly do i configure gfxpayload? |
14:33 | <devil> | demoniccow: there is a lot of docu on that on google, specialy good from ubuntu |
14:34 | <devil> | so we can google it for you or you do it yourself |
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14:36 | <demoniccow> | i actually think i found it on a debian fourm thread, thanks |
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14:40 | <demoniccow> | ok my screen resolution is 1280x1024 but gfxpayload needs another number for somthing, sooo... 1280x1024x? |
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14:42 | <sney_> | colour bit depth |
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14:42 | <demoniccow> | basicly should i use 32 bit coloring or 16 bit coloring in terminal? |
14:42 | <sney_> | whatever floats your boat |
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14:43 | <demoniccow> | whats the command to update grub again? |
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14:43 | <demoniccow> | is it sudo update grub or grub update? |
14:43 | <sney_> | it is, unsurprisingly, update-grub |
14:43 | <demoniccow> | thanks |
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14:44 | <sney_> | you should try abusing tab complete. if you remember the first part of a command, you can type that and then hit tab to see what begins with that |
14:45 | <demoniccow> | when i run update-grub it just resets the file, so gfxpayload isnt there |
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14:45 | <sney_> | don't edit grub.cfg, edit /etc/default/grub |
14:45 | <demoniccow> | ok |
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14:46 | <demoniccow> | where should i add gfxpayload in that file? |
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14:49 | <demoniccow> | this is my grub file: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ysS8VgRp, where should i add the gfxpayload thing? |
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14:51 | <sney_> | http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition see "grub 2 and the vga parameter" |
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14:58 | <tuxampol> | in squeeze with gnome2 i would like to try openbox. can they get in conflict? |
14:59 | <sney_> | no, they can be installed separately |
15:00 | <tuxampol> | thank's for that short answer |
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15:01 | <tuxampol> | so that means i dont have to deinstall gnome2? |
15:01 | <sney_> | correct |
15:02 | <tuxampol> | _o/ |
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16:06 | <Elise> | Hi all |
16:07 | <Elise> | Anybody can help me pls to setup my wifi? |
16:07 | <Elise> | =))) |
16:07 | <aseem> | Elise : start with http://wiki.debian.org/wl |
16:08 | <Elise> | ive tried it already it didnt help me =( |
16:08 | <chealer> | !tell Elise about anybody |
16:08 | <aseem> | Elise: which card ? |
16:09 | <Elise> | Xircom Mini-PCI V.90 56k Modem [115d:000c] |
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16:12 | <jrogers> | Elise, that looks like a card you have to plug in, not a wifi card |
16:13 | <Elise> | really |
16:13 | <Elise> | ? |
16:13 | <Elise> | =*( |
16:13 | <jrogers> | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_10/100_Ethernet_Mini-PCI_Adapter_with_56K_Modem |
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16:14 | <sney_> | Elise: yep, that xircom is not a wifi card. if you have wifi, it's something else |
16:14 | <Elise> | ok understood ty |
16:14 | <Elise> | im poor |
16:15 | <injureddeer> | hello, how can i download dm-crypt source from debian repo? because i wanna edit libcryptsetup and compile |
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16:15 | <injureddeer> | and i can't found it in repo |
16:15 | <injureddeer> | i isntalled it with instalator |
16:15 | <jelly-home> | !tell injureddeer about package rebuild |
16:15 | <jelly-home> | !tell injureddeer about package deb-src |
16:16 | <injureddeer> | but what is name of dm-crypt |
16:16 | <injureddeer> | package |
16:16 | <injureddeer> | where is initrd/lib/libcryptsetup.so.1 in package? |
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16:17 | <jrogers> | Elise, sorry for the bad news |
16:17 | <gdb> | libcryptsetup1 and libcryptsetup-dev seem to deal with what you're wanting (as per apt-file search) |
16:20 | <jrogers> | I think that combo network card/modem was one of my first network cards in a laptop, that was about a decade ago |
16:21 | <gdb> | Same here! I was given one by work for using in my company laptop. |
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16:23 | <jrogers> | gdb, yeah, same here |
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16:28 | <sney_> | wasn't that the orange one that took up 2 slots |
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16:30 | <jrogers> | sney, I think it was full sized |
16:30 | <wd40s> | exim4 isnt needed if im not running a mail server right? |
16:31 | <movl> | wrong |
16:31 | <movl> | there is local delivery |
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16:32 | <movl> | for example, the outcomes of periodic scripts |
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16:32 | <movl> | or cronjobs |
16:32 | <wd40s> | ah, yeah i didnt know if local delivery relied on it or not |
16:33 | <jrogers> | so exim is used for local mail delivery? |
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16:34 | <movl> | IIRC, it's the default mailer in Debian |
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16:38 | <fcrs> | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, choose 'local delivery only' |
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16:44 | <jrogers> | *waves and fades to go take a nap, or slip into a chocolate coma |
16:45 | <wd40s> | thats the best kind of coma |
16:46 | <SaZha> | adrenalin injected? |
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16:49 | <perfecto> | elo |
16:49 | <ompaul> | that's it all right |
16:49 | <perfecto> | hi |
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16:51 | <perfecto> | i have a q, anyone had this error "can't assess tty; job control turned off" ? |
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16:52 | <devil> | perfecto: ĝoogle is full of it |
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16:52 | <movl> | and it's access, not assess |
16:52 | <devil> | that as well |
16:53 | <youlysses-lt> | No ... I think it's assess ( Y ) ( Y ) |
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16:53 | <movl> | perfecto: Debian stable? |
16:53 | <perfecto> | *access ;] |
16:53 | <perfecto> | its Mint debian edition 64bit |
16:54 | <movl> | then go to mint's channel |
16:54 | <movl> | that would only seem logical |
16:55 | <perfecto> | ok |
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17:19 | <doda> | superstars |
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17:38 | <calisto> | alwais know (estimate)a debian 7 free date ? |
17:38 | <sney_> | !wwwr |
17:38 | <dpkg> | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. The freeze that will lead to the release of Wheezy is currently planned for June 2012. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/01/msg00009.html |
17:38 | <sney_> | but probably some time around the end of 2012/beginning of 2013 |
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17:40 | <calisto> | I need to create new servers based in openvz, but this is deprecated in new debian |
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17:41 | <calisto> | and Im read for lxc |
17:41 | <bene> | !list |
17:41 | <dpkg> | VATTENE VIA! |
17:41 | <calisto> | full funtionalitie are in kernels 3.x |
17:41 | <bene> | che significa |
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17:42 | <bene> | vattene via perchè |
17:42 | <bene> | !list |
17:42 | <dpkg> | bene: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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17:43 | <scientes> | calisto, if you add your user to libvirtd group and install lxc then its a security vulnerability I believe |
17:43 | <scientes> | but yeah lxc is the new way to do it |
17:43 | <scientes> | and its getting systemd integration |
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17:43 | <scientes> | or well, smartness |
17:44 | <bene> | ma qui si possono scaricare film? |
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17:44 | <daemonkeeper> | bene: NO! Adesso vattene. |
17:44 | <scientes> | !es | bene |
17:44 | <dpkg> | | bene: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
17:44 | <calisto> | ok scientes I continue in debian 6 for two years almost |
17:44 | <daemonkeeper> | scientes: This is Italian. |
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17:44 | <scientes> | daemonkeeper, oh sorry |
17:45 | <scientes> | woah, how did dpkg know to talk to him in italian? |
17:45 | <daemonkeeper> | bene: Sei _completamente_ in un canale sbagliato per le tue richieste. |
17:45 | <daemonkeeper> | scientes: It's always Italians to ask for warez. |
17:45 | <bene> | ok scusate |
17:46 | <daemonkeeper> | scientes: Ask bene why. We have no clue. |
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17:46 | <scientes> | its the sicilian mafia!!!! :) |
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18:12 | <enzopalla> | lolita |
18:12 | <enzopalla> | lolita |
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18:26 | <mejsa> | hey guys,ive just added new disk,edited /etc/fstab how do i try if it works without rebooting the system? |
18:26 | <Salamander> | sudo mount -a |
18:26 | <movl> | mejsa: mount it |
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18:35 | <Salamander> | mejsa, so? is it working? |
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18:48 | <b5> | does anyone know what's going on with the broken synaptics driver in testing? |
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18:49 | <b5> | e.g., is there a fix for the freezing issues, or the two-finger scroll? |
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18:54 | <devil> | b5: there is a bugreport |
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18:55 | <b5> | no? ok. |
18:55 | <b5> | :-( |
18:56 | <devil> | b5: what do you mean with no? |
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18:56 | <b5> | no help on the synaptics issue? |
18:56 | <b5> | oh, i didn't see you. |
18:56 | <b5> | sry. |
18:56 | <devil> | b5: as i said, it's broken |
18:56 | <b5> | yeah, the bugreport mentions a workaround, but i can't get it to work. |
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18:58 | <devil> | why not use the one from stable until it's fixed? |
18:58 | <b5> | dpkg tells me that the ABI version is incorrect. i don't get it, really. |
18:59 | <movl> | b5: what kernel? |
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19:00 | <b5> | 3.4.0 rc1, i built it. but it's refering to the xserver ABI, I think. |
19:01 | <movl> | nevertheless, try with 3.2.x |
19:01 | <b5> | i have, it's the same ish. touchpad works for about 10 minutes, freezes. bouncing X fixes it, but it's annoying. |
19:02 | <movl> | yes, I guess it is |
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19:03 | <b5> | yup. how do i pin a package to use stable, when the rest of the system is testing? |
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19:07 | <b5> | nm, got it. |
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19:17 | <scientes> | b5, man preferences |
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19:22 | <moujik> | Hi. I just installed debian squeeze xfce but the screen resolution is wrong |
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19:23 | <moujik> | it only gives me max 800x600 option |
19:23 | <movl> | what video card? |
19:23 | <moujik> | my only monitor is tv screen connected through HDMI |
19:23 | <moujik> | nvidia |
19:24 | <movl> | what driver? |
19:24 | <scientes> | moujik, what kernel version? |
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19:24 | <scientes> | uname -a |
19:24 | <movl> | and what kind of debian? |
19:24 | <moujik> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
19:25 | <moujik> | x86_64 GNU/Linux |
19:25 | <moujik> | geforce gt 430 |
19:27 | <movl> | so, nouveau or nvidia? |
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19:27 | <moujik> | It's a dual boot with mandriva on another HD. I copied xorg.conf but it didn't work |
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19:28 | <scientes> | moujik, you dont need a xorg.conf |
19:28 | <scientes> | try removing the xorg.conf |
19:28 | <moujik> | I had to |
19:28 | <scientes> | what happens without it? |
19:28 | <scientes> | oh, that kernel is too old to get nouveau good |
19:28 | <scientes> | you should use the 3.2 kernel from backports |
19:28 | <moujik> | max resolution is 800x600 |
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19:29 | <moujik> | scientes, how? |
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19:30 | <scientes> | !backports |
19:30 | <dpkg> | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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19:31 | <scientes> | add the line to your sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get -t squeeze-backports linux-image-amd64; reboot |
19:31 | <scientes> | *apt-get install -t squeeze-backports linux-image-amd64 |
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19:32 | <scientes> | try it without nvidia nonfree driver first |
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19:34 | <moujik> | I had non-free added before |
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19:35 | <scientes> | then apt-get remove nvidia-* |
19:35 | <scientes> | (i forget the name) |
19:35 | <moujik> | I haven't installed any nvidia drivers |
19:36 | <scientes> | ok, then install the kernel from backports, remove (or rename) the xorg.conf and reboot |
19:36 | <scientes> | and see where that gets you |
19:36 | <scientes> | and if that doesn't work, you could try the nvidia driver |
19:37 | <moujik> | aptitude show nvidia* |
19:37 | <moujik> | E: Unable to locate package nvidia* |
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19:37 | <scientes> | its nvidia-glx |
19:38 | <moujik> | not installed |
19:38 | <moujik> | ok, I'm rebooting.. |
19:38 | <scientes> | cool |
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19:42 | <moujik> | hi, I'm in space |
19:42 | <moujik> | I have only the biggest resolution now |
19:43 | <moujik> | 1920x1080 |
19:43 | <sney_> | is that the native resolution for your display/ |
19:43 | <moujik> | yes |
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19:45 | <moujik> | I would like to be able to change it to say 1240x720. |
19:45 | <moujik> | Do I install nvidia-glx? |
19:46 | <sney_> | it might be forced to the native resolution by your hdmi connection, I don't know much about those but I know they can send a lot of different information about the hardware/display |
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19:47 | <moujik> | there's no problem in KDE Mandriva |
19:48 | <scientes> | moujik, its hdmi |
19:48 | <scientes> | and its digital |
19:49 | <scientes> | you dont want to use anything that the native resolution |
19:49 | <scientes> | what you can do it make your fonts bigger |
19:49 | <scientes> | *anything that is not the native resolution |
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19:50 | <scientes> | but yes, hdmi supports other resolutions, I doubt it really is limited, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and will list all, the other modes |
19:50 | <scientes> | moujik, ^ |
19:50 | <moujik> | ok, thank you! |
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19:51 | <scientes> | if the display is digital, ie LCD, then i highly recommend you stay with the native resolution and just make your fonts bigger |
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19:52 | <moujik> | is there a general option in xfce4? |
19:53 | <moujik> | I'm usually far away from the screen |
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19:54 | <moujik> | (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so |
19:54 | <moujik> | (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp |
19:54 | <moujik> | (==) FBDEV(0): Backing store disabled |
19:54 | <moujik> | (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument |
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19:55 | <RichiH> | hmm, let's see if this works |
19:55 | <RichiH> | !tell moujik about paste |
19:55 | <scientes> | RichiH, he didn't rejoin |
19:55 | <RichiH> | seems like it did |
19:55 | <RichiH> | scientes: i know; it messaged him |
19:55 | <scientes> | ahh gotcha |
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19:57 | <moujik> | Sorry, why is native resolution advisable? |
19:57 | <scientes> | moujik, cause LCD monitors only have native resolution |
19:57 | <scientes> | unlike old CRTs |
19:58 | <scientes> | everything else they just have to resample |
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20:03 | <moujik> | I cannot seem to increase fonts for iceweasel |
20:05 | <scientes> | moujik, ctrl-+ |
20:05 | <scientes> | moujik, and there is a add-on to make it global |
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20:06 | <moujik> | I meant window decor |
20:07 | <moujik> | I can't for instance see what I'm typing |
20:07 | <moujik> | until I post it on xchat |
20:07 | <scientes> | hmm, nor sure about that one |
20:07 | <scientes> | thats a gtk thing however |
20:07 | <scientes> | and would be global if you found the nob |
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20:08 | <moujik> | OK, thanks! I'll figutre it out |
20:09 | <moujik> | Do I need to do anything extra apart from aptitude remove gnash? |
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20:21 | <heikkila> | moujik, to do what? |
20:22 | <moujik> | to be able to install flash without conflicts |
20:22 | <scientes> | or just apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree moujik |
20:23 | <moujik> | I will need 10.3 |
20:23 | <moujik> | I will have to find it |
20:23 | <heikkila> | moujik, I don't think so. If there are any conflicts I think aptitude would ask you to resolve them for you, ie. remove conflicting package. |
20:24 | <moujik> | ok, thank you! |
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20:33 | <clos> | hola |
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20:54 | <moujik> | still, it would be nice to increase the fonts globally, cause pages look funny in the browser with only middle part in use |
20:55 | <Butthead_> | t |
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21:29 | <moujik> | scientes: thanks a lot! I just discovered that a video issue I was experiencing in Mandriva with lower screen resolution is not down to anything else rather than resampling |
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21:29 | <moujik> | I would get rainbow gradient on some dark ochra frames |
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22:18 | <wd40s> | if i wanted to run the clear command on successful login through ssh, where would i put it. I tried putting it at the top of /etc/profile which works but the mail messages (i.e. no mail or you have...) gets cleared out too. |
22:19 | <scientes> | ? |
22:19 | <scientes> | wd40s, what does that gain you? |
22:20 | <scientes> | wd40s, you should checkout nautilus-open-terminal |
22:20 | <scientes> | which works with sftp/ssh |
22:21 | <wd40s> | it gains me a clean screen, instead of seeing all the crap i was doing before login at the top of the terminal i just see the mail notifications and the motd. obviously i could just run clear after logging in but id rather have it done automatically |
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22:22 | <scientes> | you could put the special commands in /etc/motd |
22:23 | <techop> | hi |
22:23 | <scientes> | techop, hello |
22:23 | <techop> | having a problem with java on linux here |
22:23 | <techop> | this is because it loads the screen but components aren't visible |
22:23 | <scientes> | not my speciality at all |
22:24 | <scientes> | oooh, that stuff |
22:24 | <scientes> | yeah i think i had that once too |
22:24 | <wd40s> | yes but i have a dynamic motd so i turned off the motd and instead run an motd script at the end of /etc/profile |
22:24 | <techop> | it is very much a linux and not java thing I belive |
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22:24 | <scientes> | wd40s, then /etc/motd.tail |
22:24 | <scientes> | you can always scroll up above the clear |
22:24 | <scientes> | cause it isn't reset |
22:25 | <techop> | I think that I have had this problem in the past but not sure what the fix is and cant find it on google |
22:25 | <nykac> | hello, i am having a problem makeing a login on a tty. Logins via ssh, and kdm work, but loging in via a tty doesn't. I do not think it is even loading bash. |
22:25 | <techop> | I literally have the application open with no usable insterface |
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22:28 | <abrotman> | techop: which version of linux? which version of java ? |
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22:29 | <techop> | OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11pre) (6b23~pre11-0ubuntu1.11.10.2) |
22:29 | <techop> | OpenJDK Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) |
22:29 | <abrotman> | techop: this isn't #ubuntu, try irc.freenode.net |
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22:29 | <Guest1256> | HELO |
22:30 | <techop> | abrotman, have been there no help tonight |
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22:30 | <abrotman> | techop: we do not support ubuntu here .. perhaps try ##linux or ##java on freenode |
22:30 | <techop> | was hoping that this was a linux thing |
22:30 | <abrotman> | right, so ask ##linux |
22:31 | <techop> | OK thanks abrotman |
22:31 | <abrotman> | sorry, good luck |
22:31 | <techop> | I have not got an answer there to my question |
22:31 | <techop> | do you think I'm asking the wrong question? |
22:32 | <abrotman> | i have no idea .. but it's definitely offtopic here |
22:32 | <abrotman> | techop: maybe try using picpaste.com when you show it to ##linux or ##java |
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22:36 | <techop> | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_-_090412_-_03_35_26-rp3tN4vR.png |
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22:37 | <techop> | 1494 people and not a single answer |
22:38 | <techop> | it drivers me nuts |
22:38 | <abrotman> | techop: you're still not in the right channel, you can be banned from here if you continue |
22:38 | <nykac_> | techop: this is #debian, not #ubuntu |
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23:51 | <joshua_> | hi |
23:51 | <sney> | hi |
23:51 | <joshua_> | some know about openxava? |
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23:57 | <sney> | syn^, I see you in here, why did you ask for help in the offtopic channel? |
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