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| 00:39 | <tehrabbitt> | hey, having an issue with FTP, I installed vsftpd on a new install of squeeze. but it seems like pro-ftpd is still running and I never even installed pro-ftpd |
| 00:40 | <tehrabbitt> | any ideas? |
| 00:42 | <tehrabbitt> | when I do /etc/init.d/vsftpd start, it doesn't start up |
| 00:42 | <tehrabbitt> | nor does it throw an error |
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| 00:49 | <tehrabbitt> | anyone here familiar with vsftpd? |
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| 00:52 | <ayaka> | can I let X start in tty1 by default |
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| 00:53 | <tehrabbitt> | every time I try to /etc/init.d/vsftpd start, it doens't start, I don't see a pid show up at all, and nothing gets written to the logs :-\ |
| 00:54 | <jm_> | check vsftpd.conf |
| 00:55 | <jm_> | (listen= line) |
| 00:56 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: it's set to "YES" |
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| 00:56 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: and also not commented? |
| 00:57 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: correct |
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| 00:58 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: I have no idea why it won't work :-\ I run the init script, and it doesn't even seem to start |
| 00:58 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: can you run it like so: sh -x /etc/init.d/vsftpd start |
| 00:58 | <tehrabbitt> | let me try |
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| 00:59 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: http://paste.debian.net/163909/ |
| 00:59 | <tehrabbitt> | that's the result |
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| 01:00 | <networkingdude> | hello? |
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| 01:03 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: any ideas? |
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| 01:04 | <jm_> | let me see |
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| 01:06 | <ikarso> | j #lw |
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| 01:08 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: in that case try to strace it, strace -s 2048 -f -o str.txt /etc/init.d/vsftpd start search for clone call and then check what happens to the PID it returns |
| 01:11 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: this looks like it might be the culprit from teh strace: |
| 01:11 | <tehrabbitt> | 7528 write(0, "bad bool value in config file for: userlist_deny", 48) = 48 |
| 01:11 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: out of curiosity - does it also write this to any of the log files? |
| 01:11 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: nothing to the logs |
| 01:11 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: what's the line like? |
| 01:11 | <tehrabbitt> | i'm looking for it now |
| 01:11 | <tehrabbitt> | # It is not a list of users to deny ftp access |
| 01:11 | <tehrabbitt> | userlist_deny=NO |
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| 01:13 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: whats weird is there arent' any typos there or anything :-\ |
| 01:13 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: heh looks OK unless there are some weird characters next to it, see if cat -v shows anything |
| 01:13 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: http://paste.debian.net/163910/ |
| 01:13 | <tehrabbitt> | hm |
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| 01:14 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: here is the full .conf file |
| 01:14 | <tehrabbitt> | http://paste.debian.net/163911/ |
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| 01:16 | <tehrabbitt> | hm |
| 01:16 | <tehrabbitt> | root@horus:~# vsftpd |
| 01:16 | <tehrabbitt> | 500 OOPS: bad bool value in config file for: userlist_deny |
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| 01:17 | <ayaka> | where can I set the default tty the x start at |
| 01:18 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: which version of vsftpd is this? |
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| 01:19 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: whichever one is included in squeeze |
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| 01:20 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: those lines work fine here in squeeze |
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| 01:21 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: weird :-\ |
| 01:21 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: but if I put crap in the file I get exactly the same error, run it through some hex dump tool (xxd, hexdump, ...) |
| 01:21 | <tehrabbitt> | weird, it must have been a strange charicter or something at the end |
| 01:21 | <tehrabbitt> | maybe a space |
| 01:22 | <tehrabbitt> | It was a space...... |
| 01:22 | <tehrabbitt> | :-| |
| 01:22 | <tehrabbitt> | at the end of "NO" |
| 01:22 | <jm_> | ok so its parser is not very forgiving |
| 01:22 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: apparently... good to know in teh future |
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| 01:28 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: still Pure-FTPD is connecting, not vsftpd |
| 01:28 | <tehrabbitt> | :-\ |
| 01:29 | <tehrabbitt> | "Welcome to Pure-FTPd[privsep][TLS] |
| 01:29 | <tehrabbitt> | but I didn't install it |
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| 01:33 | <tehrabbitt> | vsftpd does show up when i do a ps aux | grep vsftpd |
| 01:33 | <tehrabbitt> | root 7569 0.0 0.0 3960 1036 ? S 05:19 0:00 /usr/sbin/vsftpd |
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| 01:37 | <jm_> | find out what's listening on port it connects to |
| 01:38 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: netstat -l? |
| 01:39 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: how would I check what is listening? |
| 01:39 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: netstat -nap | grep port (or lsof, ...) |
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| 01:39 | <tehrabbitt> | lol |
| 01:39 | <tehrabbitt> | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7569/vsftpd |
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| 01:41 | <jm_> | well your output above says TLS - are you sure your client is connecting to this system on this port? |
| 01:41 | <jm_> | ftp over ssl is usually on a different port |
| 01:41 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: i'm using flashfxp connectiong to port 21 |
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| 01:43 | <tehrabbitt> | 0_o even when I try connectinv via TLS, it's using PureFTPd |
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| 01:43 | <tehrabbitt> | why is PureFTPd even installed if I didn't install it / can't remove it |
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| 01:43 | <jm_> | I can't answer that, but it's easy to see if it's vsftpd accepting the connection (I highly doubt it) - strace -p 7569 |
| 01:45 | <tehrabbitt> | http://paste.debian.net/163912/ |
| 01:46 | <tehrabbitt> | thats what happens when I try to connect to the server while I have strace running |
| 01:49 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: hm, it seems to fail authentication every time it sends the password :-\ |
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| 01:51 | <hellodere> | strace? |
| 01:51 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: so it is vsftpd then |
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| 01:51 | <hellodere> | p strace - A system call tracer |
| 01:51 | <hellodere> | i see |
| 01:52 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: I suppose so, it must be using pro-ftpd somehow |
| 01:52 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: well add -f to see what child process is doing |
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| 01:56 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: -f to the strace? |
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| 01:57 | <tehrabbitt> | okay, now there's no input |
| 01:57 | <tehrabbitt> | at all :-\ |
| 01:57 | <tehrabbitt> | so there's gotta be another ftp server running |
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| 01:57 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: yup |
| 01:58 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: but what?!? lol how can I find it |
| 01:59 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: start by identify which port it connects to |
| 01:59 | <tehrabbitt> | 21 apparently |
| 01:59 | <tehrabbitt> | lol |
| 01:59 | <tehrabbitt> | because even if I do a /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop .... I can still log in / access FTP (it still rejects my password though) |
| 01:59 | <tehrabbitt> | aka something is still running |
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| 02:01 | <jm_> | that makes no sense |
| 02:01 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: I know... its a VPS account, Debian 6 i386 Minimal running on openvz |
| 02:02 | <tehrabbitt> | and when I say minimal, i mean not even nano was installed, nor g++ etc |
| 02:03 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: the weird part is I see that there are virtual packages installed for proftpd, BUT I can't remove them etc |
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| 02:03 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: why not? |
| 02:03 | <tehrabbitt> | can't be found :-\ |
| 02:03 | <tehrabbitt> | v proftpd - |
| 02:03 | <tehrabbitt> | v proftpd-abi-1.3.3a - |
| 02:03 | <tehrabbitt> | i vsftpd - lightweight, efficient FTP server written for security |
| 02:04 | <tehrabbitt> | Note, selecting 'proftpd-basic' instead of 'proftpd' |
| 02:04 | <tehrabbitt> | Package proftpd-basic is not installed, so not removed |
| 02:04 | <tehrabbitt> | X_X |
| 02:04 | <scientes> | !paste |
| 02:04 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 02:05 | <jm_> | well check with dpkg -- dpkg -l | grep proftp |
| 02:05 | <hellodere> | <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. I think 4 lines should be max, not two |
| 02:05 | <hellodere> | but w/e |
| 02:05 | <hellodere> | but thats cool I didnt know debian had a paste |
| 02:05 | <tehrabbitt> | *technically* I typed two lines, and then pasted two lol |
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| 02:06 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: dpkg -l | grep proftp returnd nothing |
| 02:07 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: perhaps a running binary for a removed package then |
| 02:07 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: Hm i'm not sure |
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| 02:11 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: should I just image the VPS from scratch again and see if it has FTP right out of the box? |
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| 02:12 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: it's up to you - I would check which port it connects to and proceed from there |
| 02:12 | <dog545> | what are some good terminal apps for weather, email, and irc clients? |
| 02:12 | <tehrabbitt> | what do you mean what port it connects? |
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| 02:14 | <jm_> | dog545: mutt for email, as for irc, there are many so look at them and decide for yourself (debtags search 'interface::text-mode && protocol::irc') |
| 02:14 | <jm_> | well so much for patience |
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| 02:18 | <tehrabbitt> | lol |
| 02:18 | <tehrabbitt> | jm_: whats the best way for me to check the port? |
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| 02:19 | <jm_> | tehrabbitt: tcpdump -n 'host your_windows_ip' |
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| 02:21 | <tehrabbitt> | ah |
| 02:21 | <cyberjip> | Hello, so I changed the hostname in the /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, rebooted the machine, it won't let me log in so I use a Ubuntu livedisk to change them back, reboot, and it still won't let me log in (times out at 60 seconds). |
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| 02:27 | <jm_> | cyberjip: log in how? |
| 02:27 | <cyberjip> | locally |
| 02:27 | <jm_> | cyberjip: and to clarify - the system is debian, you're just using ubuntu to troubleshoot it? |
| 02:27 | <jm_> | which local login method then? |
| 02:27 | <cyberjip> | Correct. Just didn't have an ubuntu CD around |
| 02:28 | <cyberjip> | debian* |
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| 02:28 | <cyberjip> | I tried using tty1, and tty2 if that is what you are asking? |
| 02:29 | <jm_> | ok so login then - did you look at your logs after an unsuccessful attempt? |
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| 02:30 | <cyberjip> | Actually did not think of that. Any ones I should look at besides the ones in /var/logs? |
| 02:31 | <jm_> | just those |
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| 03:12 | <hw> | Which package is responsible for setting the correct keymap/layout? |
| 03:13 | <jm_> | !keymap |
| 03:13 | <dpkg> | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 03:17 | <prem_> | whezzy keeps on showing me "Chinese simpleified and spanish" under language settings |
| 03:17 | <prem_> | but i have never selected these languages in my localechooser |
| 03:17 | <prem_> | y its so? |
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| 03:40 | <ar9> | how do i add myself to the sudoers file? |
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| 03:40 | <jm_> | ar9: visudo |
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| 03:41 | <ex0a> | ar9: http://wiki.debian.org/sudo |
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| 03:44 | <ar9> | not sure what to write in there without messing things up |
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| 03:47 | <ar9> | i got it |
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| 03:49 | <ar9> | i just installed debian unstable and gnome 3 is in fallback mode |
| 03:49 | <ar9> | should i install my graphics drivers or is there an open source ati driver preisntalled? |
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| 03:52 | <jm_> | what's a fallback mode? in general questions for sid are handled in #debian-next, see the topic |
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| 03:53 | <ar9> | thanks |
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| 03:54 | <nevyn> | ar9: what videocard. |
| 03:54 | <ar9> | nevyn: radeon |
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| 03:54 | <jm_> | :) |
| 03:54 | <nevyn> | which one? |
| 03:54 | <ar9> | 6770 i think |
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| 03:55 | <nevyn> | ar9: so you have two options. install the proprietary driver or not. |
| 03:55 | <jm_> | lspci will identify it or x logfile |
| 03:55 | <nevyn> | up to you. |
| 03:55 | <ar9> | nevyn: well usually gnome 3 works out of the box in fedor aand ubuntu |
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| 03:57 | <ayaka_> | i have know how to set xdm default tty,but how about slim |
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| 03:59 | <jm_> | ayaka_: why do you care? it should pick a first free one on its own |
| 03:59 | <ar9> | nevyn: is there kmod-catalyst in the repos? |
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| 03:59 | <nevyn> | ummm... m-a? |
| 03:59 | <nevyn> | or dkms? |
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| 04:00 | <ayaka_> | jm_ because it seems getty don'y work, but x has started, so it tell me can't open tty7 |
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| 04:00 | <jm_> | ayaka_: what makes you think getty is not working? |
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| 04:01 | <jm_> | ayaka_: are you sure you're not running two DM-s at the same time? |
| 04:01 | <|Ferderik> | Hi, I'm using Debian wheezy on a system with Intel graphics. Compiz and cairo dock now complain that I'm using software rendering, however glxinfo says "direct rendering: Yes". How can I debug this further? This was working fine in the past. |
| 04:01 | <ayaka_> | jm_ if don't see it in pa aux and /dev only have tty and tty0 |
| 04:03 | <jm_> | ayaka_: in debian? |
| 04:03 | <ayaka_> | jm_ yes |
| 04:03 | <ayaka_> | jm_ i print it in some way(some stript in rc.local) |
| 04:03 | <jm_> | ayaka_: print what? |
| 04:03 | <ayaka_> | then log show me that |
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| 04:04 | <ayaka_> | the result of ls -l / , /sys and /dev and ps aux an |
| 04:04 | <ayaka_> | the result of ls -l / , /sys and /dev and ps aux |
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| 04:06 | <andrew> | Hi. I have my home computer (debian stable) setup with an SSH server and this computer has all of my music on it. I was wondering if there was a way to load these files into rhythembox on my work computer and play them as if they were on my local computer (also debian stable) without actually putting them on my local computer here at work |
| 04:06 | <jm_> | and if you do the same once the system is booted? |
| 04:07 | <ayaka_> | jm_ yep |
| 04:07 | <jm_> | ayaka_: it's the same or what? |
| 04:07 | <ansgar> | andrew: sshfs? |
| 04:07 | <jm_> | andrew: you could mount it or stream it ... |
| 04:07 | <perlwizard> | andrew mount network share as nfs |
| 04:08 | <ayaka_> | jm_ first one |
| 04:08 | <perlwizard> | might not work if you have some silly network configuration or very slow connection |
| 04:08 | <ansgar> | perlwizard: And have fun setting up Kerberos etc.? |
| 04:08 | <perlwizard> | ansgar what? |
| 04:09 | <ansgar> | perlwizard: You don't suggest expoerting it to the entire world? |
| 04:09 | <andrew> | Oh geeze, I didn't know I could import from sshfs. I have just started the (very long) process of importing everything. Thanks guys |
| 04:10 | <ayaka_> | jm_ if x has started, does getty must have been started |
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| 04:10 | <jm_> | ayaka_: no, X is started on an unused tty |
| 04:10 | <jm_> | ayaka_: so you don't have getty-ies defined on several tty-s in /etc/inittab? |
| 04:11 | <ayaka_> | jm_ inittab is correct |
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| 04:13 | <jm_> | ayaka_: are you actually booting in multi-user runlevel? |
| 04:13 | <ayaka_> | yes |
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| 04:15 | <ayaka_> | oh,i don't have tty0 in /dev only tty |
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| 04:20 | <ayaka_> | jm_ i have to go now,will back after came back home.thank you very much |
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| 05:58 | <hw> | !keymap |
| 05:58 | <dpkg> | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 05:59 | <hw> | hmm, how do I change the console resolution? |
| 05:59 | <hw> | !resolution |
| 05:59 | <dpkg> | Resolution is how fine the pixels are. The higher the resolution, the more pixels that can be squeezed onto a screen, thereby giving the appearance that the pictures on your screen are smaller without losing any detail. Because the pictures are smaller you now have room to place more on your screen. Use ctrl-alt-numpad_plus/minus or <xrandr> to change it. See also <hwinfo> and <xorg config>. |
| 05:59 | <hw> | !console |
| 05:59 | <dpkg> | Console Guides: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ http://tinyurl.com/gwg2b http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://people.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html . See also <serial console>, <netconsole>. |
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| 06:27 | <hoshi411> | what is a gsettings schema? |
| 06:27 | <hoshi411> | this package is telling me i need one |
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| 07:01 | <ratnick> | what is the best way to clean up dead symlinks? |
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| 07:03 | <ayaka> | http://paste.debian.net/163938/ it seems getty don't start and udev don't create tty0-31,i use some script in rc.local to print that |
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| 07:19 | <ratnick> | what is the best way to clean up dead symlinks? |
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| 07:22 | <movl> | ratnick: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_find_broken_symbolic_links |
| 07:22 | <ratnick> | movl:thanks |
| 07:23 | <movl> | yw. |
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| 07:29 | <ayaka> | does udev in charge of create tty0 to tty31 file in /dev |
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| 07:58 | <jklo> | hello. is it possible to use kvm on a thinkpad r61? i'm using debian unstable. |
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| 07:59 | <FragByte> | jklo: that depends whether your cpu is capable of hardware virtualization |
| 07:59 | <hw> | If I try to multistrap on the same architecture I get "W: GPG error: http://www.emdebian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B5B7720097BB3B58" but if I use the conf file on a different host architecture I've no key problem. What is wrong? |
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| 08:00 | <FragByte> | jklo: pls paste the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo to paste.debian.net |
| 08:02 | <jklo> | FragByte, http://paste.debian.net/163945/ here it is. thank you for your time. |
| 08:06 | <FragByte> | jklo: the "flags" line contains "vme" (=virtual machine execution) so kvm should work after you loaded the modules kvm and kvm-intel. see dmesg output after it loaded to be sure |
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| 08:08 | <FragByte> | jklo: oh wait, i was utterly wrong of course, vme is NOT what I said, its virtual real mode, vmx is what you should look for |
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| 08:09 | <FragByte> | jklo: and i see now that your paste is not complete, the flags line got truncated and the rest is missing |
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| 08:11 | <FragByte> | jklo: you can see it for your self though by typing 'grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo' |
| 08:11 | <k-man> | i've been using this cache for apt called apt-cacher-ng, but it seems to get corrupted .debs from time to time |
| 08:11 | <k-man> | is there some way to make it scan and delete corrupt files automaticaly? |
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| 08:20 | <jklo> | grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo gives me output, so it should work. but if i try to install qemu-kvm i get this error :Module kvm_intel failed to load ... failed. maybe i have to activate kvm in bios. i'll try it. |
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| 08:28 | <jklo> | FragByte, now it works thank you very much for your time! |
| 08:28 | <FragByte> | jklo: np |
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| 08:36 | <ayaka> | http://paste.debian.net/163938/ it seems getty don't start and udev don't create tty0-31,i use some script in rc.local to print that |
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| 08:54 | <az> | hello |
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| 09:07 | <intore> | hi, am configuring an ldap server on debian squeeze. i installed and configured nslcd but i can't see all the user of the directory ldap. i created an user on ldap used by nslcd for lookups and i put it in the nslcd.conf as binddn but it doesn't run. do you have ideas? |
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| 09:18 | <intore> | hi, am configuring an ldap server on debian squeeze. i installed and configured nslcd but i can't see all the user of the directory ldap. i created an user on ldap used by nslcd for lookups and i put it in the nslcd.conf as binddn but it doesn't run. do you have ideas? |
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| 09:21 | <gnugr> | !tell intore -about ldap |
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| 09:31 | <abrotman> | that was useful .. really |
| 09:33 | <ayaka> | if i want to downgrade udev,how can i downgrade two package at the same time(dpkg won't allow) |
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| 09:57 | <hw> | Which package selects the keyboard layout? I've just tested keyboard-configuration but it has just no effect. My goal is to have german umlauts layout. |
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| 10:04 | <ayaka> | !keymap |
| 10:04 | <dpkg> | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 10:05 | <kilelme> | need help.. i install debian squeeze on toshiba portege .. i download new kernel from backport and so i install firmwire-realtek and wireless-tool but i can't connect to wifi .. it's i missing something? |
| 10:06 | <hw> | ayaka: thx that you repeat what I've already done |
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| 10:06 | <ayaka> | kilelme paste lspci please |
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| 10:08 | <kilelme> | wait ayaka.. my debian stop running .. i just running xchat only.. i need to restart |
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| 10:11 | <gnugr> | kilelme:also check for "firmware-iwlwifi" it might solve your prob |
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| 10:12 | <WizardNumberNext> | hello, I would like to pull Debian DVD images for releases 3.1r8 and 4.0r9, but they are gone from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ can I get them somewhere else? |
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| 10:16 | <kilelme> | ayaka: that lspci -n http://paste.debian.net/163962/ |
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| 10:17 | <gsimmons> | WizardNumberNext: You can generate these with jidgo, using archive.debian.org for the Debian mirror ; /msg dpkg jigdo |
| 10:17 | <ayaka> | kilelme have you done what gungr said |
| 10:17 | <kilelme> | now i try to download it |
| 10:17 | <kilelme> | wait i minute |
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| 10:18 | <WizardNumberNext> | gsimmons, that is what I was looking for. I could not get jigdo to work, because files weren't in place where they were at jogdo file generation time. Thanks man |
| 10:19 | <ayaka> | kilelme can you paste lspci -l, |
| 10:19 | <kilelme> | wait |
| 10:20 | <ayaka> | WizardNumberNext i think google must tell you good result,google debian 3 iso |
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| 10:21 | <kilelme> | ayaka: here http://paste.debian.net/163964/ |
| 10:21 | * | gnugr i thought debian sarge is in museum |
| 10:23 | <kilelme> | gnugr: wireless device is realtek is possible to use iwlwifi because that for intel |
| 10:24 | <gnugr> | kilelme:i use the same card and i got all firmware |
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| 10:25 | <gnugr> | kilelme: "update-initramfs -u" will show you if any firmware is missing |
| 10:26 | <ayaka> | kilelme have your read what about RTL8191ce in wiki.debian.org |
| 10:27 | <kilelme> | gnugr: ok i try it now |
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| 10:27 | <kilelme> | ayaka: i have read all |
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| 10:28 | <ayaka> | kilelme then what iwconfig show |
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| 10:29 | <kilelme> | no wireless extention |
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| 10:30 | <ayaka> | kileme paste lsmod please |
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| 10:31 | <gnugr> | kilelme: you sure did add in sources.list "main contrib non-free"? |
| 10:32 | <kilelme> | yes... |
| 10:32 | <kilelme> | maybe i have change to backport? |
| 10:33 | <ayaka> | no need,squeeze has supported it |
| 10:33 | <kilelme> | ok.. |
| 10:33 | <gnugr> | kilelme:no error with "update-initramfs -u"? |
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| 10:34 | <kilelme> | see you later.. (need more connection) |
| 10:34 | <kilelme> | no |
| 10:34 | <gnugr> | ok |
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| 10:34 | <ayaka> | gnugr could you tell me whether he need bdo to support it |
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| 10:38 | <victor> | er |
| 10:38 | <victor> | 47 |
| 10:38 | <victor> | 5745 |
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| 10:39 | <gnugr> | ayaka:it has to do with linux-image not with bdo |
| 10:39 | <ayaka> | gnugr i knew,i meant the kernel in bdo |
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| 10:41 | <gnugr> | ayaka:in bdo exist lots kernel |
| 10:43 | <ayaka> | gnugr but judd told me that it is 3.2 in bdo |
| 10:44 | <gnugr> | yes, but there is also 3.0 ,2.6.38,2.6.39 etc |
| 10:45 | <ayaka> | gnugr ok,does him need 3.2 |
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| 10:46 | <gnugr> | ayaka:i think yes, it is better with the newest kernel |
| 10:46 | <ayaka> | gnugr but it seems that card is supported from debian 3 |
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| 10:49 | <kilelme> | ayaka: yap the wireless foudn |
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| 10:50 | <ayaka> | kilelme, then all problem is sovled |
| 10:50 | <kilelme> | need to install new kernel and linux-base also initrams some driver firmware-realtek and wireless-tool |
| 10:50 | <kilelme> | yes.. thank you for your help and thank you for gnugr |
| 10:51 | <ayaka> | wow,gnugr is right,thank you gnugr |
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| 10:55 | <Sicelo> | ,pciid 16:45 <@deleted> is there anything you want to ask? |
| 10:55 | <Sicelo> | 16:45 <@deleted> anyone? |
| 10:55 | <judd> | (pciid <pciid> [--release <release name>]) -- Output the name of the device and matching kernel module if known, optionally restricted to the specified release. The pciid should be of the form 0000:0000. [ and ] are permitted around the pciid, but Supybot will try to act on those as nested commands unless they are enclosed in double quotes, e.g "[0000:0000]". |
| 10:55 | <Sicelo> | hmm |
| 10:55 | <Sicelo> | sorry guys |
| 10:55 | <Sicelo> | :/ |
| 10:55 | <youlysses> | Is "ubuntu for android" so generic that it could be used for debian too, or will this need to be ported/rewritten? |
| 10:56 | <movl> | since ubuntu and Debian are not binary-compatible... |
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| 10:57 | <youlysses> | movl, there not? For how long now... |
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| 10:58 | <arand> | I guess that's just "not guaranteed to be"... |
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| 10:59 | <movl> | or better yet, "don't count on it" |
| 10:59 | <youlysses> | I think this approach is weird too. I get alot of phones run android, and they want a majority of the market ... but :-P |
| 10:59 | <youlysses> | *to hit |
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| 11:00 | <youlysses> | I'd like to see a mobile OS based off a debian, and not Ubuntu ... |
| 11:00 | <sney> | contribute, then |
| 11:00 | <ayaka> | youlysses but it is hopeful,because it means you won't woory about boot and kernel |
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| 11:00 | <movl> | youlysses: it wouldn't be that hard |
| 11:01 | <ayaka> | maybe my mobile will be succeed soon,once i downgrade udev |
| 11:01 | <youlysses> | sney: Contribetu, or start a new project? I know of none ... based of debian that is. :-L |
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| 11:01 | <youlysses> | *Contribute |
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| 11:01 | <youlysses> | Dyslexia! |
| 11:02 | <youlysses> | I would like to see a fork of gnome-shell for phones ... it seems most of their redesigns for apps would scale very well. |
| 11:03 | * | movl recoils in horror |
| 11:04 | <youlysses> | You'd have most of a core, just need to add the phone specifics. A dialer, and a system to "make it work" with the hardware. Isn't there a faif phone system out-there? |
| 11:04 | <youlysses> | movl: lol |
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| 11:05 | <youlysses> | "phone-shell" At least it's a half rhyme! |
| 11:05 | <ayaka> | it seems i can't use croos compiler to compile udev,i have compile it in this mobile,which make it slow(install package,a lot packages performs too slowly in claas4 sdcard) |
| 11:06 | <youlysses> | It'd take about a year for me to even think about having the skill to implement this though... |
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| 11:07 | <ayaka> | youlysses someone has installed debian on google nexuse one,not chroot |
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| 11:07 | <youlysses> | Full on?! |
| 11:08 | <ayaka> | yes,see topic in #debian-mobile |
| 11:09 | <youlysses> | I might just make some mockups and see if it's worth the fuss, to even think about it.... |
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| 11:09 | <youlysses> | Thanks ayaka, didn't know thin was even a channel! |
| 11:09 | <ayaka> | youlysses if want to have a mobile to do,choose omap platform |
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| 11:10 | <youlysses> | What, are these test boards or something? |
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| 11:22 | <youlysses> | Why doesnt there seem to be any truely free, decent phones!? |
| 11:22 | <movl> | ask the hardware manufacturers |
| 11:24 | <youlysses> | .... True. I know why, but it still sucks. |
| 11:24 | <movl> | yeah |
| 11:24 | <movl> | same sticks with most PCs and other architectures |
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| 11:25 | <youlysses> | It wouldn't be so bad if atleast most phones had openboot loaders.... |
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| 11:27 | <movl> | I don't think openboot is designed for embedded platforms |
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| 11:28 | <ayaka> | mobile use uboot,fastboot,and a bootloader for rethat(forget name) |
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| 11:30 | <youlysses> | Why hasn't freeboot gained any traction? Seems quite queer ... :-L |
| 11:30 | <debie> | I got a problem when i boot, it says something like failed vfs, I had to reboot and select recovery mode, I'm on it right now, what happens? why can't I select the first option? |
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| 11:30 | <sney> | need to know the actual error message, not "something like" |
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| 11:31 | <debie> | ok i'll take it down, the problem is that the computer halt and i have to switch it off and it isn't good for computer |
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| 11:31 | <youlysses> | What just happened ...? |
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| 11:34 | <youlysses> | Are you in a normal session, or safe on :debie |
| 11:34 | <debie> | normal |
| 11:34 | <debie> | everything is fine right now, i don't know why |
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| 11:35 | <debie> | no error message |
| 11:35 | <youlysses> | What are you running? Stable, Testing? |
| 11:35 | <debie> | stable |
| 11:35 | <youlysses> | Then that is abit odd ... |
| 11:36 | <debie> | i always got the message of iomen size you can experience some problems |
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| 11:36 | <debie> | but it can start |
| 11:36 | <debie> | I have another issue, is that brightness keys doesn't work |
| 11:37 | <sney> | can you set brightness with acpitool? |
| 11:37 | <debie> | i haven't tried that |
| 11:37 | <movl> | debie: we can't guess what hardware/keyboard/laptop/etc. you have |
| 11:37 | <movl> | :) |
| 11:38 | <debie> | it's an easynote TS packard bell |
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| 11:38 | <debie> | how can i change brightness with acpitool? |
| 11:40 | <debie> | no it doesn't work with acpi tool |
| 11:40 | <sney> | acpitool -l number, or you already figured that out |
| 11:41 | <debie> | yeah i did already |
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| 11:41 | <sney> | laptops are a pain, they all have different designs, it makes universal support annoyin |
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| 11:41 | <debie> | i mend it in linux mint and it was easy, but the same solution doesn't work in debian |
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| 11:43 | <Sicelo> | debie: xrandr should be able to set your previous resolution |
| 11:43 | <debie> | i also got another problem, the performance is really low when I'm watching a video the system is too slow. I think it could be a good idea to install nouveau drivers but I have problems as well with that |
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| 11:45 | <debie> | arand can do it? |
| 11:46 | <debie> | how can i do it? |
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| 11:51 | <debie> | why the performance in linux mint when playing videos is awesome if in Linux mint I don't have nvidia drivers installed? How can I know which drivers is debian using? |
| 11:52 | <movl> | man lsmod |
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| 11:52 | <movl> | lsmod tells you what drivers you have installed |
| 11:52 | <movl> | oops |
| 11:52 | <movl> | replace installed with "in use" |
| 11:53 | <movl> | so if you don't see nouveau or nvidia....it's probably vesa |
| 11:53 | <debie> | where do i have to replace installe with in use? |
| 11:53 | <movl> | lsmod tells you what drivers you have installed |
| 11:54 | <debie> | i can see nouveau several times when i do lsmod |
| 11:54 | <movl> | I mistyped |
| 11:54 | <movl> | what video card you use? |
| 11:54 | <debie> | i have an geforce gt540m |
| 11:54 | <movl> | oh |
| 11:55 | <movl> | are you sure you didn't have the nvidia drivers installed in Mint? |
| 11:56 | <debie> | i don't think they are installed because you have to select them to be installed and when I do it desktop changes, so I remove them and everything went back to normality again |
| 11:56 | <debie> | now I have them removed so they cannot be active |
| 11:56 | <movl> | don't think ain't the same as being sure |
| 11:56 | <movl> | anyway |
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| 11:56 | <movl> | what kernel do you use on Debian? |
| 11:56 | <debie> | but the performance of the system just installed was great anyway |
| 11:56 | <movl> | what version |
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| 11:57 | <debie> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 11:57 | <movl> | install a newer kernel from backports |
| 11:57 | <debie> | could it be dangerous for stability? |
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| 11:58 | <debie> | I'd rather prefer keep the system as free and stable as possible |
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| 11:58 | <movl> | free of what? |
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| 11:58 | <debie> | free software |
| 11:58 | <movl> | and no, I never had issues with 3.x kernels |
| 11:59 | <movl> | but ymmv |
| 11:59 | <movl> | so the kernel from backports is as free as your actual one |
| 11:59 | <movl> | just newer |
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| 11:59 | <debie> | yeah but backports it is said to be not so stable, isn't it? |
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| 12:00 | <movl> | try for yourself |
| 12:01 | <debie> | by the way what ymmv means? i didn't get it |
| 12:01 | <movl> | "your mileage may vary" |
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| 12:01 | <debie> | ok |
| 12:02 | <debie> | let's try installing kernel from backports, how can i do it? |
| 12:02 | <Sicelo> | if you don't want a new kernel, you could try xserver from backports. at least that solved some issues i had in squeeze (that could be solved by a kernel upgrade as well) |
| 12:02 | <debie> | interesting |
| 12:02 | <movl> | yes, but the nouveau driver needs a newer kernel |
| 12:02 | <debie> | i could try xserver first |
| 12:03 | <movl> | no, you SHOULD try the kernel first |
| 12:03 | <debie> | why cannot be xserver first? |
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| 12:04 | <Sicelo> | debie: i think he's right :) |
| 12:04 | <debie> | i'm newbie, I don't know too much about this |
| 12:04 | * | Sicelo is basically still noob somewhat |
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| 12:05 | <debie> | sorry i didn't get noob |
| 12:05 | <movl> | if you came here for advice, you got it |
| 12:05 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, xorg from backports would a lot more robust, kernel should be alright as well, but I didn't test it yet, so cannot say anything about it |
| 12:05 | <movl> | as to why, go and read |
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| 12:05 | <debie> | ok |
| 12:06 | <movl> | nouveau had many improvements since 2.6.32 was released |
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| 12:06 | <debie> | so first kernel and then xserver, right? |
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| 12:06 | <movl> | yes |
| 12:06 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, how are you doing with debian? Actually I just read movl last post -you would benefit with new kernel - a lot is improved |
| 12:08 | <WizardNumberNext> | and as far as I know you can get quite recent kernel from both main (not sure about version) and backports |
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| 12:09 | <debie> | i'm having several problems, for example bright keys, they work in linux mint but the same solution doesn't work in debian. Also I've noticed that performance is slow when playing videos in debian, meanwhile it's great in linux mint without nvidia drivers installed |
| 12:09 | <WizardNumberNext> | actually I use updates or something like that (need to check my sources on squeeze) and there is fairly recent kernel |
| 12:09 | <movl> | ...but you're not sure about that |
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| 12:10 | <debie> | how can I install new kernel? |
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| 12:11 | <WizardNumberNext> | squeeze have some problems with HD-Video performance - I know it. As sson as I switched to whezzy it got a lot faster and there's no dropped frames any longer |
| 12:12 | <debie> | i think that's the reason why linux mint works great with video |
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| 12:12 | <WizardNumberNext> | I use squeeze-updates. You can add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list. All what you need to do is to copy default mirror and replace squeeze with squeeze/updates |
| 12:13 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, just recent xorg will change a lot |
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| 12:13 | <debie> | ok, i'll try it |
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| 12:14 | <debie> | i had updates already |
| 12:14 | <WizardNumberNext> | in squeeze-updates you will find more recent kernel as well, but I think that all you need is to add backports to your sources and get both kernel and xorg |
| 12:14 | <debie> | aha, just apt-get install kernel? |
| 12:14 | <WizardNumberNext> | it would speed up a lot, as newer xorg is really more efficient |
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| 12:15 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, add this line to sources.list: deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 12:15 | <WizardNumberNext> | and run 'apt-get update' |
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| 12:16 | <WizardNumberNext> | then install newer kernel and xorg (you can do it in go) |
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| 12:18 | <WizardNumberNext> | I do not know how xorg would react to changing its libraries, so I would advise you to install xorg from backport on terminal, cause xorg could (doesn't have but could) break in progress of upgrading (I do not mean completely - just running instance) |
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| 12:19 | <debie> | i don't know how to add backports |
| 12:19 | <debie> | which addres is? |
| 12:19 | <valdyn> | !bpo |
| 12:19 | <dpkg> | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
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| 12:20 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, I already told you, but actually I got information from last post of dpkg |
| 12:21 | <WizardNumberNext> | it is quite clear there how to od it |
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| 12:21 | <debie> | ok i think i did it |
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| 12:22 | <debie> | no something is bad |
| 12:22 | <WizardNumberNext> | all what you need is to add this line, run apt-get update, then you can install what you want (it is best to stick with this help page) |
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| 12:23 | <debie> | the line i added to sources,list doesn't work |
| 12:23 | <WizardNumberNext> | can you send me paste on paste.debian.net |
| 12:23 | <debie> | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian.backports squeeze-backports main |
| 12:23 | <WizardNumberNext> | did you run apt-get update? |
| 12:23 | <debie> | yes i did but it show some errors |
| 12:23 | <WizardNumberNext> | instead of dot there is dash |
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| 12:24 | <WizardNumberNext> | debian-backports |
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| 12:24 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/163985/ |
| 12:24 | <debie> | ah ok |
| 12:25 | <debie> | now it works |
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| 12:25 | <debie> | no it isnt' |
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| 12:25 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
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| 12:26 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/163986/ |
| 12:26 | <debie> | ok, sorry |
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| 12:26 | <debie> | now yes |
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| 12:27 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, I don't if type it by hand or something and miss part, but simply copy/paste is working great in this case (there is not hidden characters or something) |
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| 12:29 | <debie> | so now apt-get install kernel xserver? |
| 12:29 | <Guest1080> | Здравствуйте, может кто посоветовать (по русски), как бороться со следующей ошибкой при установке обновления? |
| 12:29 | <Guest1080> | Возникла внутренняя ошибка и операция будет прервана. |
| 12:29 | <Guest1080> | Сообщение об ошибке: |
| 12:29 | <Guest1080> | Fetch failed: W:Не удалось получить http://security.debian.org/dists/squeeze/updates/main/i18n/Translation-ru.bz2 Неверный заголовок [IP: 212.211.132.32 80] |
| 12:29 | -!- | Guest1080 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
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| 12:30 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, apt-get -t squeeze-backports install kernel-image (if you want kernel from backports, if not omit -t squeeze-backports) |
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| 12:30 | <debie> | ok |
| 12:30 | <WizardNumberNext> | debia, with xorg - I have to find out which package is which - I never know |
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| 12:31 | <retrospectacus> | debie: you will want to replace "kernel-image" with "linux-image-amd64" (adjust for your arch) in that command |
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| 12:33 | <debie> | ok |
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| 12:33 | <debie> | i've noticed that apt-get install kernel-image doesn't work |
| 12:33 | <tuxcrafter> | in my crontab -l I got "5 18 * * 2 ......" but it is executed every day |
| 12:33 | <tuxcrafter> | why is that? |
| 12:33 | <tuxcrafter> | it shoul only run the second day of the week |
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| 12:34 | <debie> | it doesn't find the package |
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| 12:34 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie xorg would be named xserver, as it was told already |
| 12:35 | <retrospectacus> | debie: help us help you by reading what we say, and giving useful errors, making pastebins if necessary |
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| 12:36 | <debie> | ok i have done apt-get install linux-image-amd64 and now i have 2.6.32+29 |
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| 12:36 | <debie> | i had 2.6.32.5 |
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| 12:37 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, I think you have to make upgrade then, not simple install |
| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | debie: why didn't you use the correct command that WizardNumberNext gave you? |
| 12:37 | <WizardNumberNext> | install won't switch between package versions |
| 12:37 | <WizardNumberNext> | but there should not be 2.6.32 in backports |
| 12:38 | <debie> | i wanted to install from backports but it gave me an error before so i tried again with the other ones, i thought i could say no |
| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 will give you a 3+ kernel |
| 12:38 | <WizardNumberNext> | oh, there could be actually - I have whezzy and I have 2.6.32 |
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| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | debie: don't do random things. If a command we gave you doesn't work, show us the error |
| 12:38 | <debie> | can i install them now from backports or should i do sth else first? |
| 12:39 | <WizardNumberNext> | can you do apt-get update again and paste it? |
| 12:39 | <debie> | yes |
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| 12:39 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/163990/ |
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| 12:40 | <WizardNumberNext> | it is definitely working |
| 12:40 | <retrospectacus> | debie: now run "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 xorg" |
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| 12:41 | <debie> | ok |
| 12:41 | <WizardNumberNext> | retrospectus, you were faster |
| 12:41 | <retrospectacus> | debie: and pastebin the result if it doesn't do what you want |
| 12:41 | <bluenemo> | what do i have to write into /boot/grub/menu.lst to make initramfs boot into the initramfs shell by default? |
| 12:41 | <retrospectacus> | I have coffee ;D |
| 12:41 | <debie> | ok thank you very much |
| 12:42 | <WizardNumberNext> | retrospectacus, I have green tea |
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| 12:42 | <movl> | bluenemo: what version of Debian? |
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| 12:42 | <retrospectacus> | poor substitute Wizard |
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| 12:42 | <bluenemo> | ubuntu ;) movl, but i'm just looking for the name of it, it was initramfs=true or something i dont find it on google |
| 12:43 | <bluenemo> | might be that the file is named different, grub.cfg or so |
| 12:43 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, did it work? if not can you paste for us? retrospectacus, coffee doesn't work with me - I have to use really stron green tea to wake up |
| 12:43 | <movl> | bluenemo: we don't do that 'round here |
| 12:43 | <retrospectacus> | :) |
| 12:43 | <movl> | !ubuntu |
| 12:43 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 12:43 | <debie> | it's working very good right now, thank you |
| 12:44 | <bluenemo> | movl, its the same variable as in debian. sorry for not asking in #ubuntu but i wont get an answer there... its basicly 'my gnome bar disappeared' ony there m( |
| 12:44 | <movl> | bluenemo: I know :P |
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| 12:45 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, I am happy that you got it working. It is nice. Can you give me feedback on how kernel and xorg from backports work for you later on? |
| 12:45 | <debie> | yeah sure |
| 12:46 | <debie> | i'm not sure but it seems it has stopped from downloading in a package |
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| 12:46 | <debie> | no, it is downloading |
| 12:47 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, That's great. I most interested about performance on HD-videos and, if there is no problem running on kernel from backports |
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| 12:49 | <WizardNumberNext> | oh and you would need to reboot (there is no other way to use different kernel, then reboot). You can use kexec to do reboot - it would safe you few seconds, but if don't know how, then simply do normal reboot (learning how and typing this stuff won't shorter, then normal reboot) |
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| 12:49 | <WizardNumberNext> | s/if don't know/if you don't know/ |
| 12:49 | <retrospectacus> | tuxcrafter: I use the day names like "tue" but not sure why yours isn't working, I think it should |
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| 13:05 | <dragos> | hi all |
| 13:05 | <retrospectacus> | morning |
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| 13:06 | <debie> | i've installed new kernel from backports but i still have 2.6.32-5 amd, why? |
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| 13:06 | <debie> | i have rebooted |
| 13:07 | <movl> | debie: uname -r |
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| 13:07 | <debie> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 13:07 | <retrospectacus> | debie: did you choose the new kernel at the grub screen at boot? |
| 13:07 | <dragos> | Does anyone know a synaptic touchpad driver? : ( |
| 13:07 | <retrospectacus> | !synaptic |
| 13:07 | <dpkg> | Synaptic is a graphical user interface to add, remove and reinstall packages. It has dependency handling just like apt-get and integrates well with apt-get (also behaves well with aptitude too). http://wiki.debian.org/Synaptic http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSynaptic . Not to be confused with the <synaptics> touchpad driver. |
| 13:07 | <retrospectacus> | !synaptics |
| 13:07 | <dpkg> | Synaptics is an X.org driver for laptop touchpads. Install the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package and "man synaptics" for driver options; configuration tools include synclient and gpointing-device-settings. Not working? -> "modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse". http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad . See also <clickpad>, <trackpoint>. |
| 13:08 | <debie> | ah |
| 13:08 | <debie> | i think i know what has happened |
| 13:08 | <debie> | i'll be right back |
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| 13:08 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, you let it go as normal - you should choose new kernel |
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| 13:08 | <WizardNumberNext> | I would lead when you would be back |
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| 13:14 | <bitman> | I wonder why libjpeg8 brings no libjpeg.pc file in squeeze |
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| 13:15 | <dragos> | synaptics mouse not working....i installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics....but right click not working |
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| 13:16 | <retrospectacus> | dragos: did you tried the tools and commands dpkg suggested? |
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| 13:17 | <tuxcrafter> | retrospectacus: maybe it are the spaces between the numbers... |
| 13:18 | <retrospectacus> | tuxcrafter: maybe it are indeededly |
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| 13:20 | <debie> | ok, new kernel works great |
| 13:20 | <dragos> | retrospectacus i I know not to use it |
| 13:20 | <debie> | now i can use bright keys |
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| 13:20 | <debie> | what is amazing by the way, my eyes are thankfull |
| 13:21 | <debie> | playing videos is great as well |
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| 13:21 | <debie> | system performance is greater, it goes fast as linux mint |
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| 13:22 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, that is great! I would use backports then for my squeeze (but first I would build it from scratch compiling it for barcelona) |
| 13:22 | <WizardNumberNext> | oh yeah, 3.2.14 seam to be faster (but I do not run stock one) |
| 13:23 | <debie> | should i learn to compile it from sratch? |
| 13:23 | <WizardNumberNext> | kernel you mean? |
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| 13:23 | <debie> | yes |
| 13:23 | <dragos> | me someone help me with touchpad...? |
| 13:23 | <arman> | hello |
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| 13:24 | <WizardNumberNext> | actually it not needed as long as you do not need to fine-tune some things in it |
| 13:24 | <arman> | hay es? |
| 13:24 | <debie> | ok |
| 13:24 | <retrospectacus> | !es arman |
| 13:24 | <dpkg> | arman: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
| 13:24 | <debie> | now i dont think i need nvidia drivers |
| 13:24 | <WizardNumberNext> | mine kernel is build to work with Xen and KVM and it is perfectly fitting my hardware,but I don't think, that anybody really need to build their own kernel |
| 13:24 | <debie> | system run fast |
| 13:25 | <debie> | aha |
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| 13:25 | <arman> | kill -9 |
| 13:25 | <debie> | what did you mean for barcelona? |
| 13:25 | <EmleyMoor> | What's a good app for viewing digital (DVB-T) TV in Debian? |
| 13:26 | <dragos> | me someone help me with touchpad...?:(( |
| 13:26 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, what seam to be problem? Do you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package installed? |
| 13:26 | <blast007> | dragos: you'll need to be more specific |
| 13:26 | <dragos> | yes is installed |
| 13:26 | <arman> | vochxarner |
| 13:26 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, it is sub-architecture of amd64 (phenom and phenom II) |
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| 13:27 | <debie> | aha |
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| 13:27 | <debie> | now i cant run virtualbox |
| 13:27 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, do you have settings for your touchpad in your Desktop Environment settings? |
| 13:28 | <dragos> | hmm...where is this? |
| 13:28 | <debie> | do i have to install virtualbox again? |
| 13:28 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, you need to compile 'drivers' for kernel you run |
| 13:28 | <blast007> | debie: probably need to rebuild the kernel modules for virtualbox. |
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| 13:28 | <debie> | how can i do it? |
| 13:29 | <blast007> | iirc, there might be a 'setup' option in one of the init scripts for VirtualBox.. but it's been a long time since I used virtualbox on linux |
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| 13:29 | <debie> | it says that i have to install virtualbox-ose-dkms |
| 13:30 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup - this should build your 'drivers' |
| 13:30 | <dragos> | wizardNumberNext...not working to activate/dezactivate and rightclick |
| 13:30 | <EmleyMoor> | debie: Do so - that should look after the modules for you |
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| 13:30 | <debie> | ok |
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| 13:31 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, where it depends on desktop environment. I know where is it in KDE - no idea where in GNOME (last one I run was 1.4) |
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| 13:31 | <debie> | it seems that i don't have that file |
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| 13:32 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, which packages for virtualbox do you have installed |
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| 13:32 | <debie> | virtualbox-ose |
| 13:32 | <debie> | i think |
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| 13:32 | <dragos> | system/preferences/mouse |
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| 13:32 | <dragos> | ? |
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| 13:33 | <WizardNumberNext> | you need one with dkms in name |
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| 13:33 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, it is not mouse - touchpad or synaptics |
| 13:33 | <debie> | aha |
| 13:33 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, actually I use virtualbox directly from oracle |
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| 13:34 | <dragos> | hmmm... |
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| 13:34 | <dragos> | synaptics... |
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| 13:35 | <LittleFoot> | hi guys |
| 13:35 | <LittleFoot> | well debians too easy so i dun hav no quastion |
| 13:35 | <LittleFoot> | :() |
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| 13:35 | <EmleyMoor> | LittleFoot: You might, one day |
| 13:35 | <LittleFoot> | debian is the new windows |
| 13:35 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list to get VirtualBox (4.1.x at the time) directly from Oracle: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib non-free |
| 13:35 | <LittleFoot> | lol |
| 13:35 | <dragos> | i`m not sure but Windows driver is called synaptics |
| 13:36 | <LittleFoot> | bill gates make debian? |
| 13:36 | <retrospectacus> | LittleFoot: then please be quiet so that those who do have questions can get help here |
| 13:36 | <LittleFoot> | i heard that onthe news |
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| 13:36 | <EmleyMoor> | LittleFoot: Hell no... |
| 13:36 | <debie> | should i unistall the one i have first? |
| 13:36 | <retrospectacus> | LittleFoot: you can chat in #debian-offtopic |
| 13:36 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, synaptics is name of this piece of hardware |
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| 13:36 | <debie> | i have a dkms installed |
| 13:36 | <dragos> | http://www.nb-guide.info/images/stories/34/464.jpg is this |
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| 13:37 | <EmleyMoor> | debie: virtualbox-something-dkms? |
| 13:37 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, it would be actually safier to remove it, and then get one from Oracle |
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| 13:38 | <EmleyMoor> | dkms itself is a requirement for other -dkms packages to work |
| 13:38 | <debie> | yes virtualbox-ose-dkms |
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| 13:38 | <WizardNumberNext> | EmleyMoor, virtualbox in squeeze is kinda old. I use one from Oracle (newest one) and it is very stable |
| 13:38 | <EmleyMoor> | WizardNumberNext: Fair enough :-) |
| 13:38 | * | EmleyMoor has tried virtualbox |
| 13:38 | <WizardNumberNext> | what dkms stands for? Is it Debianized Kernel Module Source? |
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| 13:39 | <debie> | now i have to go, thank you all for everything, you have been very nice and helpfull |
| 13:39 | <WizardNumberNext> | debie, lets debianize whole world! |
| 13:40 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 530] by debhelper |
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| 13:40 | <EmleyMoor> | "Dynamic Kernel Module Support" |
| 13:40 | <debie> | yes |
| 13:40 | <debie> | lol |
| 13:40 | <dragos> | wizard ... what I do? |
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| 13:40 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, did you get to module, which is supposed to control behaviourt of touchpad? |
| 13:42 | <WizardNumberNext> | and what desktop environment do you use? Is it KDE, GNOME, XFCE or something else? |
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| 13:42 | <dragos> | i don`t understand...wizard |
| 13:42 | <dragos> | I do not know |
| 13:43 | <dragos> | How do I know ...is the default |
| 13:43 | <WizardNumberNext> | how you desktop does look like? |
| 13:43 | <WizardNumberNext> | then I think it is GNOME. Do you have panel on top with whole menu and task-manager |
| 13:43 | <cipher-> | dragos: Go click on System in the tray and see if GNOME is mentioned anywhere |
| 13:43 | <dragos> | yes...kde gnome....etc |
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| 13:44 | <dragos> | gnome |
| 13:44 | <dragos> | 'abou gnome' |
| 13:44 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, listen to cipher - I do not have experience with GNOME |
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| 13:46 | <dragos> | cipher what should I do? |
| 13:46 | <cipher-> | what's your problem again? |
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| 13:47 | <dragos> | i have a hp4520s with synaptics touchpad and not work to activate/desactivate and rightclick |
| 13:48 | <cipher-> | I'm sorry, I have 0 experience with that :< |
| 13:49 | <WizardNumberNext> | dragos, ok I would try, but you would have to make plenty of screenshots |
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| 13:49 | <EmleyMoor> | System -> Preferences -> Mouse, choose touchpad tab |
| 13:50 | <dragos> | here is general section with X-Disable touchpad while typing Xenable mouse clicks with touchpad |
| 13:50 | <dragos> | and scrolling section |
| 13:51 | <dragos> | nothing with left/right click |
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| 13:55 | <robertzaccour> | how do I access sources list? I want to add non-free components |
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| 13:56 | <abrotman> | robertzaccour: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:57 | <robertzaccour> | abrotman, permission denied |
| 13:57 | <cipher-> | sudo it! :D |
| 13:58 | <robertzaccour> | cipher-, command not found |
| 13:58 | <retrospectacus> | robertzaccour: su |
| 13:58 | <abrotman> | robertzaccour: as root |
| 13:59 | <robertzaccour> | retrospectacus, unknown id: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:59 | <robertzaccour> | :-/ |
| 13:59 | <abrotman> | what? |
| 13:59 | <abrotman> | robertzaccour: su, type the root password, wait for the # prompt .. then edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:00 | <robertzaccour> | abrotman, su doesn't work in crunchbang live session |
| 14:00 | <robertzaccour> | it asks for a password that doesn't exist |
| 14:00 | <abrotman> | robertzaccour: are you trying to edit a Debian system on the HDD ? |
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| 14:01 | <abrotman> | robertzaccour: or are you trying to change a crunchbang live CD ? |
| 14:01 | <robertzaccour> | abrotman, I'm trying to test my wireless that should work after installing non-free components as listed here |
| 14:01 | <robertzaccour> | http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
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| 14:01 | <abrotman> | robertzaccour: crunchbang and Debian are not teh same thing .. |
| 14:01 | <abrotman> | Debian has a live CD |
| 14:02 | <robertzaccour> | same base |
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| 14:02 | <abrotman> | robertzaccour: they are NOT the same .. if you want crunchbang support, ask them, otherwise, use the Debian live CD |
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| 14:03 | <abrotman> | we have *zero* idea what they've done to their kernel, let alone their liveCD |
| 14:03 | <abrotman> | !rl1819x |
| 14:03 | <abrotman> | !rt1819x |
| 14:03 | <WizardNumberNext> | !rtl819x |
| 14:03 | <dpkg> | For support of Realtek 802.11n PCI-E devices, ask me about <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192de>, <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192se>. For support of Realtek 802.11n USB devices, ask me about <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192su>, <rtl8192u>. See also <what's my wireless>. |
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| 14:03 | <abrotman> | ugh .. |
| 14:03 | <abrotman> | one .. ell .. |
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| 14:38 | <|100|13> | connect irc.hak5.org |
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| 14:50 | <ethelred> | identify charlton |
| 14:50 | <cat_> | olaaaaaaaa |
| 14:50 | <cat_> | !!! |
| 14:50 | <dpkg> | I'm not your csh prompt! |
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| 14:50 | <cat_> | o.O |
| 14:50 | <cat_> | what! |
| 14:51 | <gnugr> | cat_:please stop it |
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| 14:51 | <cat_> | a |
| 14:52 | <cat_> | de! |
| 14:52 | <cat_> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 14:52 | <cat_> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 14:52 | <cat_> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 14:52 | <cat_> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 14:52 | <cat_> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 14:52 | <Sicelo> | !ops cat |
| 14:52 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: sicelo complains about: cat |
| 14:52 | <cat_> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 14:53 | <Sicelo> | ty |
| 14:53 | <Sicelo> | :) |
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| 15:03 | <mase> | i'm always fighting with the very undersized default sizes of partitions like /usr in the debian installer... |
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| 15:04 | <mase> | Is there a way in the installer to say... "its an desktop, make them bigger" without doing the partitionating manualy? |
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| 15:05 | <mase> | (sizes are ok for an server, of course) |
| 15:05 | <tonkie> | as far I know, the manual way to create them is the only way |
| 15:05 | <mase> | hmmm, ok, thanks |
| 15:05 | <tonkie> | np |
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| 15:19 | <fabrizio> | ciao |
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| 15:19 | <fabrizio> | !list |
| 15:19 | <dpkg> | VATTENE VIA! |
| 15:20 | <fabrizio> | perche? |
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| 15:23 | <scientes> | whats with the italians that come in here like that? |
| 15:24 | <sney_> | I asked an italian guy (a freebsd developer) once and his best guess was, italian teenagers learn from each other that irc is just a filesharing network |
| 15:24 | <tonkie> | i was just to ask the same question |
| 15:24 | <sney_> | so it's just what irc is for, every channel is a different place to do !list, why would you do anything else? |
| 15:25 | <tonkie> | ow, that dosen't explane anything, does it? |
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| 15:25 | <tonkie> | and ciao for that matter |
| 15:26 | <scientes> | sney, ahh that makes sense |
| 15:26 | <scientes> | when i first got into irc there was stuff like that |
| 15:26 | <scientes> | and thats all people ever did |
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| 15:26 | <scientes> | you just join the channel and talk to the bot, no social at all |
| 15:26 | <scientes> | it was really stupid |
| 15:26 | <scientes> | compared to far superior file sharing networks |
| 15:26 | <tonkie> | heh |
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| 15:27 | <tonkie> | where bot's just obey commands? :D |
| 15:27 | <scientes> | but then how do it explain how dpkg get trained to respond in italian? |
| 15:27 | <scientes> | is it just some game they play on each other? |
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| 15:28 | <sney_> | someone trained dpkg to respond in italian because it was always italians looking for warez, and it's funny |
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| 15:28 | <scientes> | hahahahaha |
| 15:28 | <tonkie> | :D |
| 15:29 | <sney_> | the dpkg bot is like a wiki, anyone can teach him responses. there are a couple in there that I made |
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| 15:29 | <scientes> | indeed |
| 15:29 | <scientes> | but still funny |
| 15:29 | <chealer> | dpkg: factinfo list |
| 15:29 | <dpkg> | list -- created by za <~za@62.252.236.75> at Wed Aug 14 22:34:06 2002 (3536 days); last modified at Sat Feb 25 15:37:55 2012 by themill!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill; it has been requested 1818 times, last by coruja, 3m 52s ago. |
| 15:29 | <tonkie> | yea, i remember one channel where Italians had long conversation with bots.. |
| 15:30 | <sney_> | anyway, we're into offtopic territory now |
| 15:30 | <coruja> | dpkg, shhhh ;) |
| 15:30 | <dpkg> | i don't know, coruja |
| 15:30 | <tonkie> | yes we are |
| 15:31 | <chealer> | heh, I never realized we had so many "!list"-s, and that they came from italians. I must have grown blind to them :-) |
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| 15:35 | <tonkie> | sorry for asking stupid questions, but what is exactly the topic in here? |
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| 15:36 | <sney_> | this is the official support channel for the Debian operating system |
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| 15:38 | <chealer> | tonkie: /msg chanserv info #debian |
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| 15:40 | <tonkie> | thank you |
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| 15:40 | <jrou> | hello all how do i remove conky @ start up is that in Edit: autostart |
| 15:40 | <jrou> | take script out for conky? |
| 15:40 | <scientes> | ..or just /topic on many clients |
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| 15:41 | <scientes> | jrou, remove the package? |
| 15:41 | <jrou> | i always now jus hit killall conky |
| 15:41 | <scientes> | cause it sucks and is for ricers? |
| 15:41 | <jrou> | :) |
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| 15:50 | <tonkie> | jrou: update-rc.d -n -f conky remove as root will remove it as from bootload |
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| 16:02 | <scientes> | http://www.democracynow.org/ |
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| 16:22 | <abrotman> | scientes: wrong channel |
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| 16:31 | <dlylikebath> | my god |
| 16:31 | <ompaul> | eh - no #debian you have a debian question? |
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| 16:32 | <abrotman> | guess not |
| 16:33 | <ompaul> | abrotman: I was thinking the same thing |
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| 16:39 | <debie> | i got a problem with virtualbox, i had installed an old version I have upgraded the kernel from backports and virtualbox said that it needed dkms and load vboxdrv. I have installed virtualbox again with apt-get and when i start the machine it shows the same error. I have reinstalled dkms package |
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| 16:41 | <devil> | debie: virtualbox-dkms as well? |
| 16:41 | <debie> | yes |
| 16:41 | <debie> | i think that maybe i have to install linux-headers for the new kernel? |
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| 16:43 | <gnugr> | !vbox-install squeeze |
| 16:43 | <dpkg> | As root: "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` virtualbox-ose". After <DKMS> builds the necessary kernel modules, VirtualBox can be started. For newer versions of VirtualBox, enable <squeeze-backports> and then follow the instructions for <vbox-install wheezy> to install the "virtualbox" packages from backports.debian.org. |
| 16:43 | <gnugr> | debie: is that you want? ^^^^^^^^ |
| 16:44 | <debie> | my kernel is 3.2.0-0.bp2 |
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| 16:44 | <abrotman> | debie: did you check to see if it actually builds the module? |
| 16:45 | <debie> | i don't know how to check that |
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| 16:46 | <debie> | /etc/init.fd/vboxdrv doesn't work |
| 16:46 | <debie> | can i remove everything and start from scratch? |
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| 16:47 | <movl> | debie: aptitude reinstall virtualbox-ose-dkms |
| 16:47 | <sney_> | it normally complains pretty noticeably if a dkms build fails |
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| 16:48 | <debie> | aha, it says that the kernel source seems to be not installed |
| 16:48 | <movl> | install linux-headers for your version |
| 16:49 | <debie> | there are several options the one that says all or common-rt? |
| 16:49 | <movl> | all |
| 16:49 | <debie> | ok |
| 16:49 | <movl> | make sure the version matches |
| 16:49 | <movl> | aka 3.2.0-0.bp2 |
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| 16:52 | <debie> | now I have backports in my sources.list, but i would like to decide wether i want to install from there, how can i do it? |
| 16:52 | <movl> | -t squeeze-backports |
| 16:52 | <debie> | ok |
| 16:52 | <debie> | sth has failed |
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| 16:53 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/164036/ |
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| 16:55 | <movl> | dpkg -l | egrep linux-headers |
| 16:55 | <dpkg> | No packages found matching | egrep linux-headers |
| 16:55 | <movl> | damn |
| 16:56 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/164037/ |
| 16:56 | <movl> | good |
| 16:56 | <movl> | now try that reinstall stuff |
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| 16:57 | <foxi> | hi |
| 16:57 | <debie> | only dkms, right? |
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| 16:57 | <movl> | yea |
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| 16:58 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/164038/ |
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| 16:59 | <movl> | paste that file, the log file |
| 17:00 | <debie> | where is that file? |
| 17:00 | <debie> | var/... |
| 17:00 | <movl> | it says there |
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| 17:01 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/164039/ |
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| 17:02 | <movl> | debie: please enable linewrap |
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| 17:02 | <movl> | or change the editor :P |
| 17:03 | <retrospectacus> | or use the file upload feature of the pastebin site |
| 17:03 | <debie> | ok |
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| 17:04 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/164042/ |
| 17:05 | <debie> | this is gedit |
| 17:05 | <movl> | looks like some API incompatibility |
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| 17:06 | <movl> | or a missing file |
| 17:07 | <sistem_neo> | hello |
| 17:07 | <movl> | please type 'file /usr/src/linux-headers-VERSION/include/linux/autoconf.h' |
| 17:07 | <debie> | can i remove everything and install the old version of vbox? |
| 17:07 | <debie> | ok |
| 17:07 | <movl> | replacing VERSION , of course |
| 17:08 | <sistem_neo> | hello, i have problem with mousekeys and mouse pointer's movement |
| 17:08 | <debie> | no such file |
| 17:08 | <movl> | gah |
| 17:09 | <movl> | uninstall the dkms |
| 17:09 | <movl> | install the headers again |
| 17:09 | <movl> | then install the dkms |
| 17:09 | <debie> | apt-get -r virtualbox-ose-dkms? |
| 17:10 | <movl> | aptitude purge |
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| 17:11 | <debie> | ok |
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| 17:12 | <debie> | it gives me error again |
| 17:13 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/164043/ |
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| 17:14 | <sistem_neo> | help me please, i have problem with mousekeys and mouse pointer's movement |
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| 17:15 | <movl> | debie: uninstall VBox completely, then install the VBox from backports |
| 17:15 | <movl> | linux/autoconf.h has been moved recently |
| 17:15 | <debie> | apt-get remove --purge virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-dkms? |
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| 17:17 | <debie> | i prefer to install the old version, not from backports |
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| 17:17 | <movl> | the old version is not compatible with the backports kernel |
| 17:17 | <debie> | aha |
| 17:17 | <retrospectacus> | sistem_neo: we need a lot more information about your problem to offer any help |
| 17:18 | <debie> | so apt-get install virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-dkms? |
| 17:18 | <movl> | nope |
| 17:18 | <devil> | my guess is, sistem_neo was bitten by a synaptics upgrade |
| 17:18 | <sistem_neo> | ok |
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| 17:18 | <movl> | use -t squeeze-backports |
| 17:18 | <movl> | after aptitude |
| 17:18 | <sistem_neo> | i can move pointer with mouse |
| 17:18 | <sistem_neo> | but |
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| 17:19 | <sistem_neo> | i cant move pointer with mousekeys |
| 17:19 | <devil> | sistem_neo: it's a known problem |
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| 17:19 | <sistem_neo> | what should i do |
| 17:20 | <debie> | http://paste.debian.net/164044/ |
| 17:20 | <devil> | sistem_neo: are you running wheezy? |
| 17:20 | <debie> | it fails |
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| 17:20 | <sistem_neo> | version name ? debian 6.0.4 |
| 17:20 | <movl> | debie, it actually builds the module now |
| 17:20 | <devil> | squeeze? |
| 17:21 | <movl> | debie: look at the last line of the paste |
| 17:21 | <debie> | does it means that is ok? |
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| 17:21 | <debie> | ok |
| 17:21 | <movl> | let it finish |
| 17:21 | <debie> | yes, you are right |
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| 17:21 | <debie> | it works |
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| 17:22 | <sistem_neo> | squeeze ? |
| 17:22 | <sistem_neo> | what is it ? |
| 17:22 | <devil> | debian stable |
| 17:23 | <sistem_neo> | i download netist 6.0.4 |
| 17:24 | <debie> | thank you very much movl |
| 17:24 | <movl> | debie: you're welcome |
| 17:25 | <debie> | to install flashplayer is just simply "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" |
| 17:26 | <sistem_neo> | i installed small cd netist i386 iso |
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| 17:28 | <sistem_neo> | what should i do |
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| 17:34 | <jdaniels> | I need to remove a directory from a secondary disk, trying as root rm -r and rmdir -f no go |
| 17:34 | <jdaniels> | tried chowning to root too |
| 17:34 | <movl> | rm -rf? |
| 17:35 | <jdaniels> | command not found |
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| 17:35 | <movl> | check for typos |
| 17:35 | <retrospectacus> | "rm" was not found? |
| 17:36 | <jdaniels> | no, operation not permitted |
| 17:36 | <movl> | sudo then |
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| 17:36 | <jdaniels> | I am there as root |
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| 17:36 | <retrospectacus> | mounted read-only probably |
| 17:36 | <jdaniels> | yes, that it is |
| 17:36 | <jdaniels> | umount |
| 17:36 | <jdaniels> | ? |
| 17:37 | <ar9> | I have some images that are around 3000 by 2000, what's the easiest way to shrink them? |
| 17:37 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: remount |
| 17:37 | <movl> | ar9: convert |
| 17:37 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: mount -o remount,rw /path/of/mount |
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| 17:37 | <ar9> | movl: what's that? |
| 17:38 | <retrospectacus> | ar9: yes, "convert". It's in the imagemagick package |
| 17:38 | <movl> | like he says |
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| 17:39 | <jdaniels> | still operation not permitted |
| 17:39 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: paste the output line of `mount` for that device |
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| 17:40 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: check dmesg|tail for additional errors, use a pastebin to show us if you like |
| 17:41 | <ar9> | retrospectacus: is there a gui for imagemagick? |
| 17:41 | <retrospectacus> | ar9: I don't think so |
| 17:41 | <jdaniels> | retrospectacus: http://pastebin.com/R9DnqRqP |
| 17:42 | <movl> | ar9: why GUI? |
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| 17:42 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: no. Type "mount" and find the line for /media/Data, and paste it right here |
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| 17:43 | <retrospectacus> | ar9: "convert" is a command line tool, much more powerful than any clicky junk... "man convert" |
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| 17:44 | <jdaniels> | retrospectacus: http://pastebin.com/jWD2GVPM |
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| 17:45 | <movl> | afaik, ntfs write support is shady |
| 17:45 | <retrospectacus> | hmmm ntfs eh |
| 17:46 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: what version of debian? |
| 17:46 | <retrospectacus> | !ntfs rw |
| 17:46 | <dpkg> | NTFS-3G is a userspace driver providing NTFS read and write support. "aptitude install ntfs-3g". Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Also ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 17:47 | <jdaniels> | it is wheezy with kde, hold on there is a system utility to automount this crap on boot, need to reboot, brb |
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| 18:02 | <debie> | can i install cinnamon in debian squeeze? |
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| 18:03 | <retrospectacus> | why? Squeeze has gnome2 |
| 18:04 | <retrospectacus> | debie: you could try but it sounds like a difficult and bad idea |
| 18:04 | <devil> | and a bit useless |
| 18:04 | <debie> | and mate? |
| 18:04 | <sney_> | same answer |
| 18:04 | <retrospectacus> | yes |
| 18:04 | <retrospectacus> | I mean, yes, same answer |
| 18:05 | <debie> | ok, gnome works fine |
| 18:05 | <retrospectacus> | neither one is in debian so we couldn't support you trying it |
| 18:05 | <movl> | cinnamon needs software that ain't available in stable |
| 18:05 | <movl> | and yes, it isn't in the repos |
| 18:06 | <sney_> | cinnamon has an itp bug, apparently. but that'll only apply to sid/wheezy |
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| 18:07 | <debie> | ok i like gnome as well |
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| 18:08 | <sney_> | cinnamon and mate are designed to look like gnome 2, which you already have. so there you go. |
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| 18:08 | <jdaniels> | retrospectacus: Im back could not fix via KDE GUI, there is no entry for sdb1 in /etc/fstab, maybe load ntfs-3g? |
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| 18:10 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: yeah that's probably what you need. |
| 18:10 | <sney_> | ntfs drives are such a pain, I usually just give myself a script to mount it the insecure way. that's only on my personal desktop where nobody but me and mrs. sney have hardware access |
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| 18:13 | <jdaniels> | retrospectacus: then add new line to fstab like so... |
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| 18:15 | <jdaniels> | damn, cannot enter the line |
| 18:15 | <retrospectacus> | jdaniels: I haven't used ntfs in a long time. /msg dpkg user-accessible ntfs for direction |
| 18:16 | <jdaniels> | retrospectacus: let me load pkg and will be back |
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| 18:16 | <retrospectacus> | huh? |
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| 18:17 | <hellodere> | I think this is what you were looking for http://i.imgur.com/IhRaa.jpg |
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| 18:20 | <sney_> | hellodere: this is a support channel, please refrain from posting that kind of thing |
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| 18:29 | <jdaniels> | retrospectacus: YES!!! loaded ntfs-3g and little utility disk manager, which writes entry to fstab, reboot and bingo! |
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| 18:49 | <scientes> | jdan...gone |
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| 18:49 | <scientes> | anyways, there is one feature of ntfs that driver doesn't support, but few notice, so i guess..who gives |
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| 19:33 | <perlin> | yeeay |
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| 19:33 | <perlin> | go chane the world |
| 19:33 | <perlin> | change* |
| 19:34 | <perlin> | just look the reality |
| 19:34 | <perlin> | just coruption |
| 19:34 | <perlin> | no?* |
| 19:35 | <perlin> | crazy no? |
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| 19:52 | <john_d> | any ideas? |
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| 22:07 | <cheus> | Hi. I recently updated to squeeze and found I'm having all sorts of boot issues with regards to cryptdisks, lvm, and mounting. Is there a way to configure it to essentially run, cryptdisks-early -> lvm -> mount -> cryptdisks -> lvm -> mount ? |
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| 22:10 | <cheus> | The keys for the second round of cryptdisks are found on the filesystem unlocked by cryptdisks-early. |
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| 22:25 | <youlysses> | What's all on the Squeeze DVD image that it's almost a whole disc?! |
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| 22:31 | <scientes> | youlysses, the entirety of squeeze is one blu-ray disk, or 7 (?) dvds |
| 22:32 | <sney> | youlysses, packages, lots of them |
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| 22:32 | <scientes> | youlysses, and thats per-architecture (plus source) |
| 22:33 | <scientes> | youlysses, there are a few really massive packages, like nexuiz, (has a new name) but otherwise its just a bunch of binaries |
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| 22:33 | <youlysses> | Scientes ... HOLY CRAP 0_o |
| 22:34 | <scientes> | youlysses, and that is 100% free, libre, and open source software |
| 22:35 | <scientes> | debian has more freedom-respecting packages and software in one-place than any other distribution or operating system |
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| 22:37 | <youlysses> | Which is always good to hear! Still want to see a distro like gnewsense to bundle it for the casuals though. (Not to say installing/maintaining Debian is hard ... just not ideal for someone like my Mum, Pop, or Sis ... :-P) |
| 22:38 | <scientes> | youlysses, gnewsense is just ubuntu without the non-free parts |
| 22:38 | <scientes> | youlysses, and debian doesn't have any nonfree software in the defaut channels |
| 22:38 | <youlysses> | It's almost migrated to 100 debian. |
| 22:38 | <scientes> | oh thanks for the information, i didn't know |
| 22:38 | <scientes> | debian has progressed since i started using it, it didn't use to have an installable live CD |
| 22:39 | <scientes> | and you can help make wheezy better |
| 22:39 | <youlysses> | And I know, but debian is also a "general" distro while something like gnewsense is aimed to the "ubuntu"/mint/fedora crowd. |
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| 22:39 | <youlysses> | And I plan on it! |
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| 22:40 | <youlysses> | There's a live image?! |
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| 22:40 | <scientes> | youlysses, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/ |
| 22:40 | <scientes> | !live |
| 22:40 | <dpkg> | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 22:40 | <scientes> | for lenny they were not installable |
| 22:40 | <sney> | the installable livecd is a recent change, yeah |
| 22:41 | <sney> | now SynrG and co. just need to make people more aware of them |
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| 22:41 | <scientes> | sney, i've not even used it, but its lack was something that pushed me more to ubuntu in the past |
| 22:42 | <scientes> | IMHO its really the best way to install GNU/Linux |
| 22:42 | <sney> | the most user-friendly, anyway |
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| 22:42 | <scientes> | but even for advanced users it lets you know that everything works |
| 22:43 | <youlysses> | That's great to hear! It'd be nice to have a dvd image, though.... :-P |
| 22:44 | <scientes> | youlysses, not really |
| 22:44 | <scientes> | you can always burn a cd image to a dvd |
| 22:45 | <scientes> | and a cd is big enough when xz compressed to hold a reasonable system |
| 22:45 | <youlysses> | It'd be a nice to show what gnu/linux could do, to a new user. Kind of like a "display"... |
| 22:46 | <youlysses> | Idk. :-P |
| 22:46 | <scientes> | youlysses, a live cd is really too slow for normal use |
| 22:47 | <youlysses> | That's why I always burn to usbs ... IMPATIENCE! |
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| 23:16 | <ar9> | my sound card is recognized by alsamixer but not pavucontrol |
| 23:16 | <ar9> | what can I do? |
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| 23:38 | <scientes> | ar9, is it the SB live 5.1 (emu10k1)? |
| 23:38 | <scientes> | also, i thought pavucontrol is gone... |
| 23:39 | <scientes> | (might have been another pulse tool) |
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| 23:45 | <ar9> | scientes, still istallable |
| 23:46 | <ar9> | my default sound just says pulse audio when it should be hda nvidia |
| 23:46 | * | scientes is using hda nvidia with pulse ATM |
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| 23:53 | <ar9> | so theres no way to recognize my sound card? |
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| 23:57 | <scientes> | 00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) |
| 23:57 | <scientes> | thats my computer |
| 23:57 | <scientes> | and im using pulse just fine |
| 23:58 | <ar9> | :\ |
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