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---Logopened Sun Apr 22 00:00:34 2012
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00:25<scientes>where is nginx-passenger package?
00:25<scientes>i see it referenced in a recent nginx upgrade
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00:59<saxetknarf_>anyone know the name of the utility used on the term on the bottom left of this screenshot?
00:59<saxetknarf_>it's the one that shows the debian logo with some system info on a terminal
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01:03<cthuluh>saxetknarf_: linuxlogo, iirc
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01:50<lance>Anyone in here have much experience with Debian on a PowerPC?
01:51<lance>Power Mac G5 to be exact.
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02:07<EmleyMoor>I have a TV card with a USB remote control - according to reports, it is lirc compatible, using the driver "mceusb2". How do I go about setting it up?
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02:13<scientes>EmleyMoor, 1. plug it in
02:13<scientes>2. ??????
02:13<scientes>3. PROFIT
02:13<scientes>no, seriously EmleyMoor there is no #2, it just works
02:13<EmleyMoor>It doesn't appear to "just work" for me
02:13<scientes>if you want to see exactly what it puts out for a specific keypress use evtest and xev
02:14<scientes>and the tv card and remote control are totally differn't and independant
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02:14<EmleyMoor>Ah... I see something happening in xev...
02:14<SDX>EmleyMoor, can you tell which USB device is the remote if you use lsusb in a terminal?
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02:15<EmleyMoor>SDX: Yes, it's obvious
02:15<SDX>Oh. It's working.
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02:16<EmleyMoor>Well, it actually does various stuff... including starting a music player I don't use...
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02:19<jwayne>Well, this time it worked, back on Debian..
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02:19<jwayne>wheezy though..
02:19<SDX>Does every button produce something in xev?
02:19<jwayne>anyone got sirius player to work?
02:19<EmleyMoor>The music player starts if I press "Windows" on the remote control. And no, it appears not
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02:20<EmleyMoor>Master volume works... as does mute...
02:24<scientes>i have a arm box
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02:25<scientes>and i got a kernel oops while trying to flash the kernel
02:25<scientes>however, it appears that the bug got fixed
02:25<scientes>....wait i guess if it doesn't work i can tftpboot, so im ok
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02:29<jwayne>this is awesome, listening to sirius through command line vs browser.. ahah
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02:38<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... I copied the standard licrd.conf for mceusb and it causes a red "failed!" to appear when I try to start lircd
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02:44<scientes>EmleyMoor, it shouldn't need lircd
02:44<scientes><EmleyMoor> Ah... I see something happening in xev...
02:44<EmleyMoor>scientes: Reportedly for "full" use it does.
02:44<scientes>see it works
02:44<EmleyMoor>FSVO "works"
02:44<scientes>its just that its output doesn't exactly match what programs are expecting
02:44<scientes>thats where xev comes in
02:45<scientes>(and evtest)
02:45<EmleyMoor>Most of it doesn't happen at all in xev
02:45<scientes>with evtest you know you are seeing everything
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02:49<EmleyMoor>scientes: How do I tell which device it is?
02:50<scientes>it might have a name, otherwise use lsusb [-v]
02:51<EmleyMoor>Found /dev/input/event7 to be it
02:52<scientes>then hit 7 when you use evtest
02:52<scientes>pretty elementary
02:54<EmleyMoor>Yes - all buttons do indeed show there...
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02:59<EmleyMoor>It looks like mythtv requires to use lircd
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03:08<echo>hi,Is it possible to change the font of tty?
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03:10<scientes>ssh -X root@host.local 'su -l user -c "x2x -east -to :1"'
03:10<scientes>how do i make this better?
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03:18<Lazarus>madvovik, Charkov?
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03:36<maxxle>Hi. What package do i need to have automount of cdroms/dvd/flashdrivers available on a newly installed squeeze/amd64?
03:37<scientes>maximeb_, if you put in a cd it will show up in nautilus, and it is then a single click to mount it
03:37<maxxle>It does not
03:38<scientes>maximeb_, are you in the "cdrom" group?
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03:40<scientes>check you dmesg
03:41<maxxle>I can mount it manually
03:41<scientes>ok just making sure
03:41<scientes>well, maybe that is a newer udev feature, not sure
03:42<maxxle>I think i need the package "gnome-volume-manager"
03:42<scientes>cause it existed in hal too
03:42<maxxle>But - I don't have it available
03:42<scientes>well the move from hal to udev was big
03:42<maxxle>apt-cache search gnome-volume-manager
03:42<maxxle>halevt - generic handler for HAL events
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03:43<scientes>yeah hal is deprecated
03:43<maxxle>ah - ok.
03:43<scientes>try to figure out how to do it with udev
03:43<maxxle>hum... thx!
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03:43<scientes>well i know it works in later version, maybe it is broke somewhere in between
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03:44<maxxle>I just wonder why there is such a big difference between ia32 and amd64. On my ia32-Architecture it worked out of the box :(
03:44<scientes>hmmmm, it shouldnt be differn't
03:44<maxxle>(same release)
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03:44<maxxle>So - i will try to figure it out using udev. Thx
03:45<echo>nano --help
03:45<scientes>echo, ahh
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03:51<echo>I want to edit my sudoer
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03:52<echo>I typed visudo and sudoer was opend by nano, I don't know how to exit nano
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03:59<scientes>echo C-x C-y
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03:59<scientes>echo, and if you want to use another program use EDITOR=vi visudo
04:00<scientes>or dpkg-reconfigure sensible-editor
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04:00<scientes>(maybe that update-alternatives sensible-editor not sure)
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04:01<nocturnal>is it just me or is fuse very error prone? I rarely use it and frankly I've already learned to avoid it but now for example cricket installed it as a dependency. and apt-get autoremove has gotten stuck at stopping the fuse service. umount -at fuseblk
04:02<nocturnal>can't kill the umount process, most likely I'll have to reboot
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04:02<nocturnal>and fuse always does this!
04:02<nocturnal>I hate it
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04:23<scientes>nocturnal, hmm, ive had great success with fuse
04:23<scientes>mainly through either ntfs-3g (back in the day) and now more gvfs
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04:24<scientes>3.2 fixes a big writeback problem for lag with heavy IO in general
04:24<scientes>also fuse doesn't support memoery mapped files which makes it not work with some software
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04:36<vikingo>test autoaway off
04:37*vikingo is away: sorry
04:37*vikingo is back (gone 00:00:11)
04:37<vikingo>how to set autoaway off??
04:37<devil>vikingo: depends on your client
04:38<vikingo>xchat i've done <$ echo set auto_away off >> ~/.bitchxrc>
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04:38<devil>i do not know xchat
04:39<devil>but it should be in you profile settings
04:39<devil>you set it, you should know :)
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04:40<vikingo>i've done
04:40<vikingo>thanks devil :)
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04:43<echo>after I restart X, I find it started on tty8 not tty7, Is that a bug?
04:44<echo>addtionally, Ctrl+Alt+Bcsp seems not work to kill X
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04:52<ayaka>can i change by ctrl alt up or down,not by f1 to f7
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04:58<devil>echo: Ctrl+Alt+Bcsp stopped working ages ago
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05:01<devil>echo: are you using consolekit?
05:02<themill>dpkg: tell echo about dontzap
05:02<ayaka>I hear that we can enable that key to restart X by dpkg-reconfigure
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05:55<tweek_>hi. i had the following issue: set up debian 6 on a netbook, via netinst image on usb device. later: plug in ntfs usb hdd, not mounted, permission denied. add user to fuse group, still permission denied. find entry in /etc/fstab that says '/dev/sdb1 /media/usb' and so on, remove it, success mounting usb hdd. is that fstab entry a leftover from the installation? anyone else have that entry?
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05:57<ayaka>tweek_ yes,from installation
05:58<tweek_>that seems dysfunctional. did they forget to clean up or does it have any purpose that i'm not seeing?
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06:01<ayaka>tweek_ neither
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06:06<Lazarus>hi :)
06:06<tweek_>ok, i removed it anyway. took me quite a while to figure it out though, i knew that fstab entries can prevent users from mounting volumes, but the fstab entry itself was unexpected.
06:07<Layya>de donde eres?
06:08<Layya>yo soy de españa y tu
06:08<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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06:10<Layya>k tal?
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06:12<Lazarus>beautiful language
06:13<devil>Layya: stop it please
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06:13<Layya>devil porque
06:14<coruja><dpkg> Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian.
06:14<devil>Layya: because this is a support channel, not chit-chat
06:14<Layya>hablame en español porfa
06:14<Layya>vale sorry
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06:15<Layya>una cosa para que sirve esto
06:15<devil>!ops Layya
06:15<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: devil complains about: Layya
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06:21<Lazarus>yo, sup?
06:21<ayaka>THe can i help you
06:23<The>so is this for?
06:23<Lazarus>for debian support
06:25<The>this is not a chat?
06:26<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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06:27<The>someone speaks Spanish?
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06:52<tweek_>i noticed something weird: netstat -tlp shows www and ftp listening only on tcp6. but they are reachable on v4 (or not? i think it's v4 if i use those familiar addresses, right?). ssh is listet twice, tcp and tcp6.
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08:45<ayaka>rubenchy do you speak spainish?
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08:47<devil>i bet, he is faking it.
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08:48<ayaka>devil who?
08:49<devil>ayaka: do you speak chinese?
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08:50<ayaka>devil yes
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09:10<ayaka>devil is there any refer?
09:10<devil>ayaka: you were asking the obvious
09:12<ayaka>devil ?? first,who is the faking,second, what about chinese?
09:12<devil>ayaka: forgrt it.
09:12<ayaka>devil ok
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09:18<fanghao>I'm using Debian Squeeze English version, But is it possible to let tty sppourt Chinese ?
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09:19<fanghao>I have installed Chinese font and Scim, It's all right when display and input Chinese in Gnome
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09:21<ayaka>fanghao are you chinese
09:21<ayaka>fanghao use fbterm
09:21<babilen>fanghao: AFAIK ibus is preferred over scim -- There is also fbterm for ttys
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09:25<fanghao>ayaka:yeah, I'm chinese
09:26<ayaka>fanghao me,let's talke in #debian-offtopic
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09:28<ayaka>leo62 are you speaking chinese
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09:30<babilen>ayaka: Drop it please - That is neither relevant for Debian support nor a reasonable assumption.
09:30<ayaka>babilen i know
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09:31<movl>and he left anyway
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09:33<SynrG>alternatively, tab-complete all nicks. those who are not present will not tab-complete
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09:33<SynrG>(though you need to do this attentively, or else you will make some embarrassing errors)
09:34<SynrG>oops, ECHAN (for ayaka, #debian-offtopic)
09:35<ayaka>SynrG ECHAN is what?
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09:35<movl>*what is ECHAN?
09:35<SynrG>shorthand for "sorry, i typed this on the wrong channel" (inspired by Ewhatever error codes)
09:35<movl>and it means wrong channel
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10:11<redfire>I am currently using a bepo keyboard but I can't use it at boot time (inittab with value 2)
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10:11<redfire>It seems that I can't use anything else than qwerty or azerty
10:12<redfire>I tried to configure /etc/default/keyboard with bepo and the right reference to typematrix keyboard but nothing change I have a weird layout...
10:12<cirzgamanti>hi, is there a way to disable the swap partition while running?
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10:13<redfire>Do some of you know more about this (I'm willing to create all files if some need to be added to the distribution but I would like to know where to start)
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10:13<abrotman>cirzgamanti: swapoff ?
10:14<abrotman>redfire: what do you mean at boot time?
10:14<cirzgamanti>abrotman: ah! thx
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10:18<redfire>abrotman: for example when I'm in single user mode
10:18<cirzgamanti>hm, very interesting; the swap seems to have made my system totally sluggish, for months now.
10:18<redfire>with no X launched
10:19<redfire>because with X and Xmonad or Mate, there is no problem the layout is well configured but before these steps, it's a nightmare to login...
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10:20<cirzgamanti>ah well, sluggishness just came back :P
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10:22<abrotman>cirzgamanti: browser running with flash installed?
10:22<dpkg>Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
10:22<cirzgamanti>abrotman: yes?
10:23<abrotman>cirzgamanti: tried running without plugins?
10:23<cirzgamanti>no? :)
10:23<cirzgamanti>but it's pretty obvious. just killed chrome, and now everything is fine again.
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10:24<cirzgamanti>is there a fix?
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10:24<cirzgamanti>the strange thing was that nothing ever shows up in top (no high CPU, no high RAM)
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10:25<cirzgamanti>that's why i thought it my be an I/O problem
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10:28<scientes>cirzgamanti, 3.2 makes IO alot better
10:28<scientes>in terms of responsiveness
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10:28<scientes>*Linux 3.2
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10:30<cirzgamanti>hm, i couldn't go above 2.6.38, probably because of some hardware issue
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10:31<cirzgamanti>so there's no easy fix to make flash not essentially make my system unworkable?
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10:32<robertzaccour>Ok I installed my wireless drivers, rebooted, and now I don't see my wireless connect options in the network menu. any suggestions?
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10:32<robertzaccour>I installed wicd and there's no wireless networks found.
10:33<robertzaccour>here's the wiki I followed
10:33<cirzgamanti>strange enough, on my father's machine (also 2.6.38), everything is fine, although flash is running.
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10:34<redfire>abrotman: I try almost all configurations available but none works with this keyboard
10:34<redfire>it's like if accents were not available at this moment
10:34<redfire>but no layout corresponds to mine
10:35<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, Output of iwconfig? (pastebin it)
10:35<redfire>do you know how can I add mine ?
10:36<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, it says no wireless extensions
10:36<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, for lo, eth0, and pan0
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10:38<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, Find which kernel module your device requires and check it's loaded with "lsmod|grep modulename"
10:40<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I skipped a step but just came back to it but its still not showing I think I should restart and brb thanks
10:40<ziarkaen>Use modprobe, rather than restart
10:40<ziarkaen>"modprobe modulename"
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10:40<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I don't know my module name
10:41<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, What card are you using? (lspci)
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10:42<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, Realtek RTL8188CE almost 100% sure
10:42<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, if that is the correct part of it I mean
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10:43<robertzaccour>thats part of the lspci output
10:43<ziarkaen>Try "lsmod| grep rtl"
10:43<ziarkaen>I think you require the rtl8192ce module (according to wiki)
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10:44<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I think I might have it figured out brb
10:44<ziarkaen>If that command returns no output, the module hasn;t been loaded into kernel. To do this: "modprobe rtl8192ce"
10:44<ziarkaen>(or restart)
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10:51<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, module not found
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10:51<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I'm gonna restart and see brb
10:52<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, OK
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10:55<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, no dice :-(
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10:56<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, You have installed firmware-realtek and wireless-tools, right?
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10:56<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I'm pretty sure I did I installed what that doc said to
10:57<mateusz>what is the status of systemd ?
10:57<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I aptitude install firmware-realtek wireless-tools
10:57<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, Try again: "aptitude install firmware-realtek wireless-tools" just to be sure :)
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10:58<babilen>mateusz: and should answer that question
10:58<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, its installed already
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10:59<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, Output of: "modinfo rtl8192ce" ?
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11:00<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, could not find module
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11:05<mateusz>Anyone can tell me, whether it is possible to switch to systemd ?
11:06<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, Are there directories with in /lib/firmware named something like RTL ?
11:08<babilen>mateusz: and should answer that question (and please do not leave a channel a minute after asking a question) -- I wouldn't necessarily recommend switching at this point though.
11:09<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I'm not sure, I just followed the instructions from that doc. I fugured being a Debian wiki it would work.
11:09<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, It is strange that modprobe cannot find the module, given that you've installed it.
11:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 524] by debhelper
11:10<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, it works just fine in Ubuntu, I don't know why it wouldn't in Debian
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11:13<gsimmons>robertzaccour: Which Debian suite are you using?
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11:16<robertzaccour>gsimmons, squeeze
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11:17<robertzaccour>I'm on my 2nd google search results page right now
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11:18<mateusz>babilen, Ah I see.. well I disconnected because I booted in systemd to try it out, my system was starting already immedietly because of ssd sata3, so I dont see a difference, but I like the idea of daemons started on demand, but as they wrote.. its only if scripts were writen for systemd and not those compatible
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11:19<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, maybe I should try installing updates?
11:20<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, Yes, you should always do that before troubleshooting problems. Maybe you kernel and realtek drivers are mismatched.
11:20<gsimmons>robertzaccour: That release does not support RTL8188CE-based devices, as rtl8192ce was introduced in Linux 2.6.38. You will either need to use a backported kernel and firmware-realtek packages from (/msg dpkg bdo), or switch to testing.
11:20<robertzaccour>gsimmons, how stable is testing?
11:21<sney>it's pretty predictable/usable but there are still some works in progress
11:21<robertzaccour>but if I use testing It would be faster to just install Ubuntu
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11:22<sney>it would probably take about the same amount of time. The backport kernel would be much faster.
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11:23<robertzaccour>Would I be able to upgrade to testing or do I need to download, burn, and reinstall again?
11:23<robertzaccour>sney, and what do you mean by backport kernel?
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11:24<dpkg> (formerly is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>.
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11:25<babilen>!tell robertzaccour -about bdo kernel
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11:27<robertzaccour>updating to backports now
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11:30<robertzaccour>gsimmons, ziarkaen Ok backports updated, so now I "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install firmware-realtek wireless-tools"?
11:30<deavid>anyone using medit on Debian Testing/Sid has noticed a problem on UTF-8 autodetection?
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11:30<deavid>it worked until i upgraded to gnome3
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11:32<Guest1301>Ce faci?
11:33<dpkg>Pentru ajutor in limba romana va rugam vizitati #debian-ro pe Romanian users: for help in romanian, please visit #debian-ro on
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11:33<robertzaccour>does using Debian testing have any advantages over Ubuntu? wanna make sure before I open another can of worms haha
11:34<gsimmons>robertzaccour: Just firmware-realtek, there is no backport of wireless-tools available. You will also require a backported kernel (/msg dpkg bdo kernel).
11:34<Guest1301>si totusi , ce faceti ?
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11:34<movl>Guest1301: engleza, te rog
11:34<Guest1301>en frnce?
11:34<movl>robertzaccour: 1. it's not Ubuntu :P
11:35<robertzaccour>movl, different name and I don't use unity anyways haha I meant package wise
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11:36<movl>robertzaccour: it's more than a different name; and I never had any issues finding what I want in Debian
11:36<Guest1301>What are you doing here?
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11:37<babilen>Guest1301: This is a technical support channel for Debian user
11:37<Guest1301>Puteti sa-mi spuneti ce sa fac ca de fiecare data cind voi porni computerul sa nu sa se stearga nimic
11:38<movl>Guest1301: english or out
11:38<robertzaccour>does downloading dvd have any advantages over cd?
11:40<Guest1301>Tell me please what to do to not delete the data after stopping computer
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11:40<movl>Guest1301: do you use Debian?
11:40<babilen>Guest1301: Stop using a live cd -- See also (not available in Romanian unfortunately)
11:41<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, The Debian Installation CD contains the base system and requires internet access to install extra packages. The DVD(s) contain additional packages. o for the CD if you're just installing to one PC.
11:41<movl>babilen: didn't think of that :)
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11:41<babilen>Guest1301: it seems as if you are using Knoppix and not Debian btw -- Please ask in #knoppix on as there might be a way to configure Knoppix accordingly.
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11:42<robertzaccour>Is Debian testing a rolling release?
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11:43<Guest1301>Thanks, sorry
11:43<movl>testing is, wheezy is not
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11:45<babilen>robertzaccour: Not really -- It is just not a "release". That would, at least in my understanding, imply a certain level of support for it. Testing is, however, not recommended to be used by "normal" users, does not receive any security updates and might be (intentionally) broken at any given time (e.g. by package removals)
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11:47<robertzaccour>oh well. Debian stable doesn't support my wireless. Maybe next year
11:48<robertzaccour>or whenever the next release it
11:48<movl>robertzaccour: did you try backports?
11:48<movl>have you tried, even
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11:48<robertzaccour>movl, I did, but maybe I didn't do it right
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11:49<movl>what kernel are you running?
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11:49<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, uname -a
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11:50<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, I searched for my wireless card name in backports and no results
11:50<EagleScreen>robertzaccour: it is strange, you might need only to install some firmware for your wireless card
11:51<movl>robertzaccour: uname -r
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11:51<EagleScreen>robertzaccour: also paste us the output text of the "dmesg" command
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11:51<robertzaccour>Linux debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Mar 22 17:26:33 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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11:51<babilen>!tell robertzaccour -about bdo kernel
11:52<movl>robertzaccour: ok, install the kernel from backports
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11:52<babilen>robertzaccour: That is not a kernel from backports. Are you sure that you installed one? Did you follow the recipe in the factoid out bot just sent you? Could you paste the output of "aptitude search ~i~n^linux-" along with "lspci -n|grep -i network" to please?
11:53<robertzaccour>i A linux-base - Linux image base package
11:53<robertzaccour>i linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux for 64-bit PCs (dummy package)
11:53<robertzaccour>i A linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 - Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs
11:53<robertzaccour>i A linux-sound-base - base package for ALSA and OSS sound system
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11:53<sney>selective reading comprehension
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11:53<sney>it's been the problem with this guy from the first second
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11:56<robertzaccour>I'm kinda confused about backports
11:56<robertzaccour>accidently exited channel sorry
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11:57<movl>you were kicked for pasting more than 2 lines
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11:58<robertzaccour>movl, oh ok sorry
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12:00<babilen>robertzaccour: Please paste to -- To !! ! -- I'd like to see the output of: "aptitude search ~i~n^linux-" and "lspci -nn|grep -i network" and "find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n:\n" -exec cat {} \;"
12:02<robertzaccour>how would I install it as a backport?
12:02<babilen>!bdo kernel
12:02<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are distributed via Ask me about <bdo> to add backports to your sources.list correctly, then run "aptitude update". To list available backported kernel image packages: aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'. To install a package (e.g.): aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`
12:03<babilen>robertzaccour: Read that ^^^ and show me the output of the commands I asked you about. Please also read "/msg dpkg bdo" and
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12:05<robertzaccour>babilen, according to my source list backports are there
12:06<ziarkaen>robertzaccour, And you've updated?
12:06<ziarkaen>e.g. aptitude update
12:06<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, yes
12:07<robertzaccour>ziarkaen, aptitude -t squeeze-backports install firmware-realtek wireless-tools is that right?
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12:08<babilen>robertzaccour: May I please see the output of the commands I asked you about earlier?
12:08<robertzaccour>babilen, which one?
12:08<babilen>All of them?
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12:08<robertzaccour>babilen, I've closed the terminal since then and got booted for pasting more than 2 lines
12:08<babilen>robertzaccour: I repeated it again -- At 17:00:19 BST
12:09<robertzaccour>oh right
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12:13<babilen>robertzaccour: I mentioned a couple of times.
12:13<dpkg> takes forever to load, makes us enter a captcha to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like
12:13*babilen has better things to do
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12:14<heikkila>robertzaccour, read what dpkg just told us about
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12:15<babilen>The command is: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n:\n" -exec cat {} \;"
12:15<babilen>robertzaccour: And paste it to !
12:16<babilen>(err, remove the trailing ")
12:16<babilen>robertzaccour: Can you read?
12:17<robertzaccour>babilen, I didn't scroll down to the bottom at that second excuse me for not scrolling
12:17<babilen>Ok, the command is -- find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n:\n" -exec cat {} \; -- paste the output to
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12:18*babilen cries
12:18<robertzaccour>oh debian pastebin
12:19<robertzaccour>whats the difference?
12:20*robertzaccour hugs babilen
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12:21<babilen>robertzaccour: Read "/msg dpkg" or read the backlog. You also want to install a kernel from backports. Please run "apt-get update ; apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64" to achieve that. You have to reboot to get that running. You *also* have to install firmware-realtek from backports. (apt-get -t squeeze-backports install firmware-realtek)
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12:22<robertzaccour>babilen, I didn't understand that first part about the /msg dpkg and backlog
12:22<babilen>robertzaccour: In order to be able to install that firmware you have to add "contrib non-free" to your backports line though. The complete line should read "deb squeeze-backports main contrib non-free" (run "apt-get update" to enable that)
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12:23<babilen>robertzaccour: The meaning of "/msg dpkg" is more or less: "I kindly ask you to execture the IRC command "/msg dpkg" in your IRC client which will send a message to our bot (dpkg) that will cause it to tell you more about the <> factoid"
12:26<robertzaccour>babilen, so the last 2 lines should be deb squeeze-backports main
12:26<robertzaccour>squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
12:26<robertzaccour>or is that wrong
12:26<babilen>yes, it is
12:27<robertzaccour>add contrip non-free to the 2nd to last line is that correct?
12:28<babilen>Please read the sentence that starts with "The complete line should" again. Pay close attention to the word "complete" which I use to indicate that the sole content of that line is what I have enclosed in "…" afterwards. In other words: It is *your* initial line with "contrib non-free" added to the end.
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12:29<robertzaccour>babilen, updating
12:30<robertzaccour>babilen, ok. so I now have backports right?
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12:31<babilen>robertzaccour: Did you install the kernel and firmware?
12:31<robertzaccour>babilen, do I add the realtek firmware before or after I reboot?
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12:34<robertzaccour>babilen, installing firmware right now
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12:35<robertzaccour>babilen, Ok got that done. I just emailed the last bit of info you sent me so I could use it later in the future thank you
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12:36<babilen>You are welcome - Is it working now?
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12:36<robertzaccour>by kernel do you mean apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64?
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12:36<kitsos>little help ... using debian and install tor + vidalia .. start vidalia and setup my desktop to automatically detect proxy settings (kde4 systemsettings) in tray i can see vidalia and tor running (green onion) but when check my broser it SAYS that im not via tor network
12:36<scientes>i just realized the nextstep machines had an intel i860 GPU
12:36<scientes>they sure made it a long ways in 20 years i860 -> i945
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12:37<babilen>robertzaccour: Yes, sure. What else could I have been referring to?
12:37<robertzaccour>babilen, I haven't rebooted yet, just want to make sure I got it right before I do
12:37<robertzaccour>babilen, ok thanks brb
12:37*robertzaccour hugs babilen
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12:38<ivanov5>ji all :)
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12:40<robertzaccour>babilen, no dice
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12:42<babilen>robertzaccour: Could you be a bit more precise? I do, however, have to leave now as some humanly desire lures me home …
12:42<robertzaccour>babilen, nothing about wireless in the network options
12:42<robertzaccour>the default one nor wicd
12:42<robertzaccour>I'm gonna check for updates
12:43<robertzaccour>no updates
12:44<babilen>robertzaccour: No, check that your device is working. Check if you can load the module without errors and if you can scan with iwlist ...
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12:45<robertzaccour>babilen, what am I looking for in iwlist?
12:46<babilen>robertzaccour: That is: "modprobe -r rtl8192ce ; modprobe rtl8192ce ; dmesg | tail -n 23" shouldn't complain about firmware. "ifconfig wlan0 up" should work. Your interface should be listed in "ifconfig -a" and it should have wireless extensions in "iwconfig". And, last but least, you should be able to scan by running "iwlist wlan0 scan"
12:46<robertzaccour>babilen, output is interface this that this that
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12:46<babilen>"this that this that" ?
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12:51<robertzaccour>did i get booted again?
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12:52<robertzaccour>looks like everything is good, now how do I configure the wireless?
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12:53<robertzaccour>no wireless extensions
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12:53<robertzaccour>I installed the drivers, updated, installed the backports and wireless kernel, did everything right, and still no wireless detected WTH
12:54<robertzaccour>I followed the docs precisely and no dice
12:56<robertzaccour>wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
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12:57<robertzaccour>can someone help me configure my wireless?
12:57<ayaka>robertzanccour i think it not be called as wanl0
12:57<ayaka>maybe iw0?
12:57<robertzaccour>ayaka, how do I check?
12:58<robertzaccour>iwo: error fetching interface information: Device not found
12:58<heikkila>ifconfig -a
12:58<ayaka>not o ,it is 0
12:59<robertzaccour>iw0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
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13:01<robertzaccour>I'm guessing backport success comes with no guarantees?
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13:01<ayaka>robertzanccour what ifconfig -a said
13:01<heikkila>ifconfig -a should list all network interfaces
13:01<heikkila>iwconfig should list interfaces too, and tell you which ones are not wireless
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13:03<ayaka>maybe the pan0?
13:04<themill>it won't be pan0
13:04<robertzaccour>Is it possible I did everything right and it still not work?
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13:06<robertzaccour>I wonder when the next debian release comes out
13:06<teage>anyone know anything about wifi? I have a newer computer with atheros. Firmware-atheros_0.28 not working. must be a newer deb out there isnt there?
13:07<heikkila>robertzaccour, ifconfig alone won't show wireless interfaces, but interfaces -a will
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13:08<robertzaccour>heikkila, command not found
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13:08<heikkila>robertzaccour, you have to use root account or prepend it with sudo
13:08<robertzaccour>lo no eth0 no pan0 no wireless
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13:09<robertzaccour>heikkila, still says command not found
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13:10<robertzaccour>heikkila, oh ok its su got it
13:10<robertzaccour>heikkila, no oops
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13:12<robertzaccour>I think this is a situation where backport didn't work
13:12<themill>what wireless chip is this?
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13:13<heikkila>robertzaccour, you used the ifconfig command previously and I doubt you removed it since 15 minutes ago.
13:13<robertzaccour>the-dude, Realtek RTL8188CE
13:14<robertzaccour>heikkila, in ifconfig what should I be looking for? long output
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13:15<teage>ifconfig -a gives me output. hardware address for wlan0. it must be wrong firmware though cause its not working.
13:15<heikkila>robertzaccour, wlan0 is the most common I think.
13:15<themill>robertzaccour: what version of the firmware-realtek package do you have installed?
13:15<robertzaccour>themill, backport
13:15<heikkila>robertzaccour, have you already forgot about ?
13:16<robertzaccour>heikkila, I've been using for years sorry
13:16<themill>robertzaccour: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy firmware-realtek" so we can check that? The output of dmesg might be handy too.
13:16<teage>I have installed the 0.28
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13:18<teage>firmware is out there cause the newest ubuntu supports it. Just have to get it onto my squeeze. I will post the info
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13:19<robertzaccour>teage, any advice about my case?
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13:20<robertzaccour>this is frustrating
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13:21<robertzaccour>If I didn't shave my head I'd pull my hair out
13:21<petemc>you could pull hair from other places
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13:21<o0u>hey, I'm stuck configuring my (ufw) firewall. I need a ipv6 equivalent to ufw allow from for my local network . ufw allow from fe80::/64 seems to be wrong (fe80::/64 is unroutable..)
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13:22<themill>robertzaccour: the answer is likely to be in the output of "dmesg"... that's why I asked for it
13:22<robertzaccour>themill, how do I do that?
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13:23<themill>robertzaccour: the same way you're sticking other stuff in a pastebin...
13:24<heikkila>robertzaccour, you type "dmesg" in a terminal and hit the enter button once
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13:29<robertzaccour>themill, thats a lot of lines I couldn't make any sense out of
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13:30<robertzaccour>themill, did apt-cache policy firmware-realtek make sense?
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13:31<themill>robertzaccour: the apt-cache output looks fine, but I can't see any mention of your wireless chip anywhere in that dmesg output which is most odd
13:31<robertzaccour>themill, do backports sometimes not work?
13:31<themill>that kernel is pretty well tested
13:32<robertzaccour>I know I did everything precisely these last few hours, and I'm very thankful for yall's help
13:32<robertzaccour>I don't know what else to do besides ride Ubuntu until Debian 7.0 release and try again, unless there's something I'm missing
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13:34<themill>robertzaccour: can you pastebin the output of "lspci -nn" from that machine?
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13:43<themill>robertzaccour: what does "modinfo rtl8192ce" say?
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13:44<jansen>hey :) im looking for some help with my lubuntu pc .. could use some help
13:44<o0u>okay, I'm sry, ufw allow from fe80::/64 works fine, but my test application tried to connect via ipv4 which had been blocked in the firewall
13:44<robertzaccour>themill, command not found
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13:44<sney_>!ubuntuirc jansen
13:44<dpkg>jansen: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://
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13:45<themill>robertzaccour: /sbin/modinfo rtl8192ce
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13:45<robertzaccour>themill, could not find module
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13:48<robertzaccour>themill, any idea when 7.0 will be released?
13:48<dpkg>I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. The freeze that will lead to the release of Wheezy is currently planned for June 2012. See
13:48<robertzaccour>I know my wireless worked when I tried LMDE
13:48<robertzaccour>I have a crazy idea
13:48<robertzaccour>I have an Ubuntu disc. Is there any way I could use that to help me?
13:49<robertzaccour>by starting package manager and doing something from there?
13:49<themill>robertzaccour: if it works and has the same kernel version, then we could work out what module it's using to support the card.
13:49<themill>alternatively, we can highlight gsimmons and see if he knows!
13:49<robertzaccour>themill, It definitely works, I just discontinued LMDE because it was bugging out first day
13:50<robertzaccour>well if the wireless works perfectly by default in LMDE, then I need to figure out how to implement that over to here
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13:51<robertzaccour>LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) btw
13:51<robertzaccour>either that or maybe a package from the Ubuntu disc I have
13:52<robertzaccour>just throwing up last resorts here, or first if they work haha
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13:58<robertzaccour>Is it possible to use packages from an Ubuntu cd or a Linux Mint Debian Edition cd to get my wireless in Debian working? My wireless works perfectly in those 2 distros.
13:59<sney_>that wouldn't help
13:59<robertzaccour>themill, any ideas?
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14:02<Sicelo>indeed, bad idea robertzaccour
14:03<robertzaccour>Sicelo, what is bad?
14:03<Sicelo>anyway, just a quick question from me: packages installed from backports.. what happens when next stable comes around? i'm especially concerned about kernel :/
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14:03<Sicelo>robertzaccour: ubuntu stuff on Debian
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14:04<robertzaccour>Sicelo, the wireless works in LMDE though. I was thinking maybe there's some way to find out why and get it here.
14:06<robertzaccour>gsimmons, Do you now if I could implement LMDE in how it makes my wireless work into Debian 6? I'm hoping there's a way.
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14:08<robertzaccour>themill, you awake? haha
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14:11<robertzaccour>I'll just try again when wheezy comes out
14:11<robertzaccour>thanks for yall's help anyway. I did learn some stuff today
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14:15<chilled_>I installed ndiswrapper but i cant exicute any commands unless it is run as root. Is this ok? Will it affect me being able to use it?
14:15<chilled_>by running it as root i mean with sudo
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14:32<chilled_>Im trying to perform: sudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules but it says permission is denied
14:33<MagikK>try this: sudo sh -c "echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules"
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14:34<chilled_>ok that just gives me a place to type a command starting with ">"
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14:35<sney_>why not just open /etc/modules in an editor
14:35<chilled_>oh wait nvr mind, forgot to iclude the quote at the end
14:36<MagikK>I think about it
14:36<chilled_>Im pretty n00b at this so what exactly does "sh -c" do?
14:36<rudi_s>chilled_: echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
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14:36<chilled_>rudi_s, thanks got it covered
14:37<MagikK>"shell -command" = sh -c
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14:37<chilled_>Also if i just type "ndiswrapper" it says command not found. I have to do "sudo ndiswrapper"
14:38<sney_>yes because ndiswrapper is not in your path as a user
14:38<chilled_>But it wont effect how ndiswrapper works?
14:38<chilled_>Like i dont need to be loged in as root for the connection to work?
14:39<sney_>no, it's only meant to be run as root since it's for interfacing with hardware. once the driver is enabled, it'll work like anything else.
14:39<chilled_>ok, thanks
14:39<sney_>native linux drivers can only be loaded by root too
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14:39<chilled_>I couldnt find a native linux for mine :( so i have to use ndiswrapper
14:40<sney_>why, what nic is it?
14:40<chilled_>(Its a USB Card, not a PCI card)
14:40<chilled_>Its the Netgear WNA3100
14:42<sney_>oh, broadcom.
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14:42<chilled_>Any native for that or do i have to use ndiswrapper?
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14:43<sney_>chilled_: well, it's *supposed* to be supported by either b43 or brcm80211, but it's often a ridiculous song and dance to get those working too
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14:44<sney_>so give ndiswrapper a shot since you're already partway through the process, and if that doesn't work then you can come back
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14:45<chilled_>I got it working now, wierd works without any config under debian but under ubuntu ("Linux for human beings") i had to compile it from source and everything. :CONFUSED:
14:45<heikkila>you may be superhuman
14:46<sney_>chilled_: really, it's just broadcom's fault.
14:46<chilled_>Does wicd support WPA-PSK [TKIP] encription? Or is there anyway to get that working?
14:46<sney_>username: bans are just timeouts. try again in a day when you've had some time to think.
14:46<sney_>chilled_: iirc it does, you'll need wpasupplicant installed. I don't know how good ndiswrapper's wpa support is, though
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14:47<gattytto>sup fellas!
14:48<chilled_>sney_, seems to work with WEP fine eventhough thats not the standard today
14:48<sney_>yeah, if you're stuck with wep you may as well disable security altogether.
14:49<gattytto>I could use some help here, I'm having problems with this i5 notebook, primary display is set to external monitor
14:49<sney_>gattytto: what debian version
14:49<chilled_>yah, ill brb. Switching to wireless
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14:50<nodiscc>hi all, i have a quick question about wget. How do I specify an output filename for several files AND make wget use the standard renaming pattern (.1 .2 .3 .4 ...) instead of just overwriting the first downloaded file ?
14:50<gattytto>2.6.32-5-amd64 Squeeze box sney_
14:51<nodiscc>i want to obtain somethink like $FILENAME.png.1 $FILENAME.png.2 $FILENAME.png.3 and so on...
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14:51<sney_>gattytto: ok, what video device/driver and what have you tried so far? also, how is the external display connected?
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14:54<gattytto>sney_: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/
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14:55<gattytto>external display is a normal 17' monitor and is setup (somewhere) as the primary display :S
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14:55<sney_>and how is it connected...
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14:56<gattytto>it's connected to the on-board vga-output (the blue jack)
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14:56<gattytto>on the notebook
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14:57<sney_>ok. have you checked the bios options? sometimes it's controlled there, especially with laptops
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14:58<gattytto>No, I didn't, will do
14:58<gattytto>also I can see some weird stuff in my logs
14:58<gattytto>(II) intel(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section
14:59<sney_>anything weird that's more than 1 line you can put on
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15:00<gattytto>apparently there's no screen section for my config, also no layout section
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15:01<sney_>gattytto: that's normal actually, by default in a squeeze install there is no xorg.conf
15:02<gattytto>yes but it is only detecting the external display
15:03<gattytto>if I go run Xorg :1 -config, the onboard monitor starts up and works perfect
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15:03<gattytto>but my doubt is what should I do in my config to make that happen automatically
15:04<sney_>did you find anything in the bios?
15:04<gattytto>i'll reboot right now
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15:23<anndruu12>Hi guys, is there a 64 bit big endian version of Debian that exists? Perhaps ppc64 or sparc64?
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15:28<sney_>anndruu12: sparc64 aka ultrasparc, yes
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15:29<sney_>ppc64 probably is as well but I don't have any experience with that
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15:30<movl>both bi-endian, defaulting to big
15:31<anndruu12>it would be running on qemu, so ppc64 or sparc64 are preferred for ease
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15:33<sney_>some ultrasparc distros are 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland, I haven't had a sparc machine recently enough to say whether debian's is
15:34<anndruu12>yea, just need it to compile code on
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16:43<R1>i'm first of here
16:43<R1>let me teach how to use it
16:43<R1>what is here?
16:44<Azulas>R1 Welcome
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16:44<R1>yeah hi there
16:45<R1>what is debian..
16:45<R1>i'm confused!
16:45<heikkila>an operating system
16:45<Azulas>A GNU/Linux distribution
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16:46<R1>i'm short of english and computer
16:46<Azulas>lol Ok
16:46<R1>anyway, nice to meet you every body
16:46<Azulas>and you
16:46<ziarkaen>You just inadvertently set up and IRC client, connected to OFTC, and joined #debian... without a computer?
16:47<R1>i'm short of eng....
16:47<R1>and.. computer
16:47<R1>what is OFTC,...
16:49<babilen>R1: Please read the IRC tutorial that has been pointed out to you earlier and take it elsewhere. This is a technical support channela and not one for general chit chat. You might also want to read -- Have fun, good luck and may you have a nice day!
16:50<R1>thank you
16:50<R1>for your pleasure
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16:51<devil>R1: can you please not hit enter after every 2 words. thank you
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16:51<ashka>I have a problem with mdadm and grub
16:52<ashka>actually, not grub
16:52<ashka>I made a raid array, and when I install grub it tries to get root at /dev/md/0
16:52<ashka>but the directory /dev/md/ doesn't even exists
16:52<ashka>only the device /dev/md0
16:52<ashka>is that a normal behavior ?
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16:53<Azulas>I believe it is, you need to create a boot partition to load the kernel from
16:53<Azulas>How many discs in the array ?
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16:55<ashka>Azulas: it's a raid 1 with only 1 disk
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16:55<ashka>actually, it's the /boot partition, which is read correctly
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16:55<ashka>the thing is, when I want to install grub to /dev/md0
16:55<ashka>it tries to access to /dev/md/0
16:55<Azulas>That makes no sense, it should be 2 disks or more
16:56<ashka>eh yes sorry
16:56<ashka>don't know why I said that, it has 2 disks
16:56<Azulas>So when I have done this, I can't get grub to read te kernel from the RAID
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16:56<ashka>this works fine, because the image is in /boot
16:57<Azulas>So I setup separate partition non raid that are /boot
16:57<ashka>actually, the / isn't recognized
16:57<Azulas>well one anyway
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16:57<Azulas>Here take a look at the docs.
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16:57<sney_>doesn't the debian install guide have instructions for putting / on a md array?
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16:57<dpkg>The Installation Guide for Debian Squeeze (6.0) can be found at . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>.
16:57<ashka>btw, here's the other problem
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16:58<ashka>sney_: the actual problem is that, the / raid is made of 2 GPT devices
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16:58<ashka>when I try to boot it, it says /dev/disk/by-uuid/uuidthere not found
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16:58<R1>hi there
16:58<gdb>I try to avoid mirroring root when possible. I'd rather clone it on a schedule.
16:59<R1>now, i'd know what is debian!
16:59<gdb>Unfortunately, the entire world thinks mirroring root is a good idea.
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16:59<Azulas>I'd agree with gdb RAID your data partitions would be best practice
17:00<ashka>I'll maybe setup that again
17:00<ashka>but it's weird
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17:00<gdb>The reason I like to avoid mirroring root is that anything going wrong with your boot device is happily mirrored to the other root disk. Leaving you in a situation where you may be unable to boot off either.
17:00<ashka>because another server that has almost the same config (root on gpt device, raid1) boots fine
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17:01<chealer>!tell ashka about enter
17:01<gdb>To be fair, I've only run into this issue using Veritas, so YMMV when it comes to mdadm.
17:01<gdb>(And on Solaris)
17:02<gdb>I use the rootclone concept on some IRIX servers. My Linux system at home doesn't have enough slots in it to run a mirrored boot drive. The Linux systems at work are managed by someone else. Veritas is used there.
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17:06<ashka>okay, I'm getting tired of this
17:06<ashka>I'll redesing my partition table tomorrow
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18:55<chilled_>I want to setup a repository for fun, can i do it from a webserver or does it have to be from a linux box?
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19:03<rudi_s>chilled_: Repository?
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19:05<rudi_s>As in?
19:05<chilled_>where you can download and install packages from with: "apt-get install blablabla"
19:06<themill>chilled_: any http server will do, but setting up the files is obviously easiest done with debian
19:06<themill>dpkg: tell chilled_ about own repo
19:06<rudi_s>chilled_: Ah. Sure, simplest solution is to use reprepo.
19:06<chilled_>is there a howto on how to set it up on a http server somewhere?
19:06<chilled_>I couldnt find one on debians wiki
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19:18<chilled_>Can someone explain to me what a shell is? As in "free debian shells"?
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19:30<Deltatash>Hi, I was wondering if someone could give me a hand I have mounted a CD using "mount -t auto -o ro,unhide /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0/" then I open the CD and highlight its contents then right click and copy, I then go to a location in my home directory and paste and it says I do not have permission to read and does not paste...any ideas what im doing wrong? I have even tried a CLI way in terminal using sudo to copy and same pr
19:30<Deltatash>oblem I get "Permission Denied"
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19:33<Deltatash>any idea what im doing wrong guys?
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19:35<Deltatash>i guess everyone is afk lol?
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19:35<devil>why would that be?
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19:36<Deltatash>no reply at all lol :P
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19:36<devil>i don't see what's so funny. noone knows an answer or understands your problem
19:37<Deltatash>was just a guess since usually there is some sort of chat in here between other uses obviously i was wrong
19:38<devil>you are not trying to mount an audio-cd, are you?
19:39<Deltatash>nope its a game CD "World of Warcraft" I need to copy its contents to my drive but apparently I dont have permission to read it when i copy and paste :/
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19:40<devil>i have no clue of games, but are they not protected somehow?
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19:40<Deltatash>yeah thats what this code was for "mount -t auto -o ro,unhide /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0/" without that the contents are invisible
19:41<devil>well, you mount ro, so you can't write
19:41<Deltatash>that should be fine? I only need to read?
19:41<devil>you want to copy?
19:42<Deltatash>yeah the contents form the disc to my hard drive
19:42<devil>well, as I said, no clue of write protectio nand the like
19:42<Deltatash>but when i go to paste it, it says i have no read permissions
19:42<Deltatash>thank you anyway
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19:44<Deltatash>1 sec I need to relog it has screwed up on me, wont let me eject or unmount the disc
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19:44<Deltatash>ahh nvm fixed it
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19:51<chilled_>dpkg: tell chilled_ about own repo
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19:56<chealer>!tell chilled_ about selftell
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19:58<chealer>could someone download and tell me the md5sum of the file they get? is it cb32ab5f2948f81649de05f86950c627 or e0a16e6643634bc354b8abb346a1d760 ?
19:59<sney>e0a16e6643634bc354b8abb346a1d760 update_output.txt.gz
19:59<chealer>thank you sney. how did you download it?
20:00<chealer>sney: right, thanks
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20:00<chealer>could someone download with a browser and tell me the md5sum of the file they get? is it cb32ab5f2948f81649de05f86950c627 or e0a16e6643634bc354b8abb346a1d760 ?
20:00<chilled_>sney just did
20:01<sney>I see how it is, I'm not cool enough.
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20:01<sney>is that really a support issue, also? what are you trying to do?
20:02<chilled_>anyone know how to setup a repository on a http server? (not running debian). Or have a link to instructions?
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20:04<sney>chilled_, there are tools to do it like debmirror and apt-mirror, I don't think debmirror requires that the system be running debian.
20:04<chealer>chilled_: sney did it with wget
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20:05<sney>oh, with a browser.
20:05<sney>you're trying to see if the browser mangles the file.
20:06<chealer>sney: probably not particularly a support issue. I'm trying to figure out what caused
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20:06<chilled_>i mean as in setup a repository on a webserver that you can connect to and download packages from with "apt-get install"
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20:11<sney>chealer, for what it's worth, I did get the other md5sum when downloading with iceweasel.
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20:11<chealer>sney: huum. thanks again
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20:17<chilled_>What is ftpmirror? It appears to be for mirroring debian not setting up a repository
20:18<sney>uh, that's what a repository is. oh, you meant a 3rd party repository.
20:18<chilled_>Is there anyway to do that?
20:18*chilled_ crosses fingers
20:18<dpkg>i heard reprepro is a tool for managing a repository. See for ideas of how to set it up for you own packages. Alternatively, ask me about <dpkg-scanpackages>.
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20:19<chilled_>does reprepro work on a webserver?
20:20<sney>it'd probably be easiest to set it up on a local machine and then rsync everything over at once
20:21<chilled_>what is rsync? Sorry :D
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20:21<sney>it's a way to synchronize the contents of 2 directories
20:21<chilled_>Essentialy i would build the repository on my machine and then push it over to the webserver?
20:21<sney>it can be done over a network, from disk to disk, etc
20:22<chilled_>But the webserver does not need to have debian on it?
20:22<chealer>sney: If you don't mind, what is your name?
20:23<chilled_>Well it runs debian, its on a shell though, so i dont have root permissions.
20:23<sney>chilled_, no, it could probably be windows even. as long as all the important files are there, apt will know what to do with them
20:23<sney>chealer, why do you ask? am I going on your hit list?
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20:24<chealer>oh, didn't know that sney was a name, sorry
20:24<chilled_>anything can be a name
20:24<chealer>sney: nevermind, it was just for credit
20:25<abrotman>"another user on IRC" ?
20:26<sney>chealer: even just referring to 'sney on #debian' would have more meaning than my real name.
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20:27<chealer>sney: OK, that's what I was going to do
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21:41<ratnick>sney:mount returned "mount: can't find fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" for fd0. fd0 is listed in /dev and as user I'm a member of floppy group. I need to mount the fd0 to make it usable and format the disks.
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21:46<chilled_>Anyone used reprepro? Im getting an error saying: Cannot find definition of distribution 'debian'!
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21:49<sney>ratnick, you need to specify a mount point. man mount
21:49<ratnick>thanks vm
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22:01<fcrs>anyone else experience pulseaudio getting stuck every once in a while? doing a 'killall pulseaudio' fixes it but what could be the cause?
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22:03<chilled_>i find pluseaudio unstable in general
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22:03<fcrs>programs trying to output sound such as icedove's new mail notification will also get stuck, until i do the above fix
22:03<chilled_>its also hard to get working
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22:05<fcrs>i'm running testing, pulseaudio does seem to get more stable with each update
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22:08<fcrs>at least now it seems to respawn on it's own, and now it works with flash
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22:13<fcrs>anyway, i'll continue to use pulseaudio since it's supposed to be better than the standard alsa mixer, and assume debian recommends its use since it got auto-installed
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22:31<nevyn>debian did not auto-install pulse
22:31<nevyn>it may have been a dependancy of gnome tho
22:31<nevyn>if you're going to use it you really should configure it.
22:31<fcrs>yeah, i installed gnome so probably
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22:34<fcrs>i thought debconf would have done the configuring. it does work, except for the occational freezing
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22:39<nevyn>fcrs: there's a howto that should give you the nessicary asoundrc
22:39<nevyn>!pulse howto
22:39<dpkg>PulseAudio (formerly Polypaudio) is a cross-platform network sound server, intended as a drop-in replacement for <ESD>. Packaged for Debian since Etch, read /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio/README.Debian after installation for configuration recommendations; Debian specific how-to is at . #pulseaudio on
22:41<nevyn>read the readme andthe debian howto (which is getting somewhat out of date.)
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