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| 00:10 | <ayaka> | https://paste.debian.net/164558/ , it seems udev works well,but still no tty,I wonder is there any error in kernel config |
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| 00:15 | <fcrs> | is the default install safe to allow untrusted local users? does it matter that most of /etc is world readable? |
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| 00:22 | <ayaka> | fcrs: i don't think so, only root can read /etc/shadow |
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| 00:25 | <fcrs> | right, so i feel pretty confident that it is safe |
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| 00:27 | <fcrs> | untrusted in the non-admin but still trackable employee sense, i'm not talking anonymous users from the net |
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| 01:16 | <benjr> | i have a "failed" line in the text that scrolls by a startup before the gui kicks in, is there a log somewhere where i can read all that because it moves too fast |
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| 01:17 | <jm_> | !bootlog |
| 01:17 | <dpkg> | bootlogd is used to record boot messages and is disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to populate /var/log/boot . For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg). |
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| 01:17 | <mark__> | hey |
| 01:18 | <benjr> | jm_, thank you :) |
| 01:18 | <jm_> | benjr: no problem |
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| 01:19 | <mark__> | whats a cool theme |
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| 01:24 | <benjr> | jm_, did what you said, it generated a log, date/time matches, but it seems to be missing those failed lines |
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| 01:27 | <jm_> | benjr: try pressing ctrl-s when you see it happen then |
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| 01:29 | <benjr> | jm_, alright, thanks again |
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| 01:34 | <k-man> | which dhcp3-server package should I be installing? dhcp3-server or ics-dhcp-server? |
| 01:34 | <k-man> | well, i already have dhcp3-server but is that the correct one to use these days? |
| 01:35 | <jm_> | where have you found ics-dhcp-server package? |
| 01:35 | <jm_> | doh, it's isc |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | dhcp3-server is just a meta package |
| 01:36 | <k-man> | sorry, typo on my part |
| 01:36 | <k-man> | jm_, ah i see |
| 01:36 | <ayaka> | https://paste.debian.net/164558/ , it seems udev works well,but still no tty,I wonder is there any error in kernel config |
| 01:38 | <fcrs> | can dnsmasq be a contender? it includes a dhcp server |
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| 01:40 | <scientes> | fcrs, not sure what the is, but i think so |
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| 01:40 | <scientes> | fcrs, man dnsmasq |
| 01:40 | <scientes> | it can be used in authoritative dhcp mode |
| 01:42 | <fcrs> | i was suggesting it to k-man, i use it for dhcp and am happy with it |
| 01:42 | <k-man> | hmm, i seem to have configs in /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3 |
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| 01:45 | <k-man> | i think the dhcp3 directory must be something old left over |
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| 01:54 | <k-man> | so if i set a range in dhcpd.conf and later on set an specific ip/host mapping, will that IP be automaticaly removed from the range? |
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| 01:57 | <scientes> | k-man, dnsmasq doesn't use those files |
| 01:57 | <scientes> | k-man, and is not compatible with them without some sort of conversion |
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| 02:01 | <k-man> | scientes, i'm not using dnsmasq |
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| 02:03 | <scientes> | k-man, oh then i have no idea, i recommend dnsmasq for dhcp, its really easy to use |
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| 02:23 | <k-man> | its seems as though dhcp3-server package and /etc/dhcp3/ are deprecated, but i was still using the /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf file, but of course changes weren't being picked up |
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| 02:28 | <Jimi33> | Hi all, I am tryint to use apt-get and it cant download anything,what are current repositories I can put in to sources.list? Looks like all the ones I find are down. Im aon etch and dont wish to upgrade if I can avoid it |
| 02:28 | <Jimi33> | Im running on wii |
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| 02:29 | <jm_> | wii, which arch is that? |
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| 02:35 | <rsadhu> | \join #webkit |
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| 02:42 | <Jimi33> | I am on etch |
| 02:42 | <Jimi33> | not archii |
| 02:42 | <Jimi33> | I followed this |
| 02:43 | <Jimi33> | http://gbatemp.net/topic/177262-wii-linux-xwhiite-02-with-working-wifi-tutorial/ |
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| 02:43 | <Jimi33> | It works, but I cant connect to repositories with apt-get |
| 02:44 | <Jimi33> | is there a current etch debian 4.o repository? |
| 02:44 | <Jimi33> | debian 4 |
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| 02:45 | <gdb> | Etch has long been moved to archive.debian.org. |
| 02:46 | <Jimi33> | i tried that but aptget does not find the lists |
| 02:46 | <Jimi33> | what would I put in to sources.list? |
| 02:46 | <gdb> | You can probably get to it editing sources.list to point to archive.debian.org rather than ftp.country.debian.org -- I've never done it, though, but it's worth a shot. |
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| 02:47 | <Jimi33> | www.archives.debian.org |
| 02:47 | <gdb> | No, archive.debian.org |
| 02:47 | <jm_> | http://archive.debian.org/debian/README |
| 02:49 | <Jimi33> | deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib |
| 02:49 | <Jimi33> | tried it |
| 02:49 | <Jimi33> | no workie |
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| 02:50 | <jm_> | works fine here |
| 02:50 | <gdb> | Well, contrib won't work without non-free, but that wouldn't cause an issue initially. |
| 02:52 | <gdb> | What command didn't work? |
| 02:53 | <gdb> | Did you apt-get update before trying to install anything? |
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| 02:58 | <ivanov5> | bonjour :-) |
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| 03:01 | <Jimi33> | yes |
| 03:01 | <Jimi33> | apt-get update shows cant find url error |
| 03:02 | <Jimi33> | needs non-free?? |
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| 03:06 | <fcrs> | Jimi33: have you checked that it can reach the internet? |
| 03:07 | <gdb> | Jimi33: Every package in contrib depends on packages in non-free. That's what contrib is for. contrib contains software that is DSFG free, but that depends on non-free software to work. Anyway, it's nothing to worry about yet. |
| 03:08 | <Jimi33> | cool |
| 03:08 | <Jimi33> | so it works |
| 03:08 | <Jimi33> | are there other repositories I sohould try? |
| 03:08 | <Jimi33> | cool ones? |
| 03:09 | <gdb> | That's probably outside the scope of this channel. Regardless, it's going to be difficult to find software for etch as that release has been unsupported for over 2 years. |
| 03:10 | <gdb> | It was released on April 8, 2007, and EOL on February 15, 2010. |
| 03:11 | <gdb> | While I understand that people have different needs, is there some reason you require etch instead of squeeze? |
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| 03:11 | <Jimi33> | I am running this on wii. I am going to try other builds but this is the one most people say the wifi works |
| 03:12 | <gdb> | Oh! You're running Debian on a Nintendo Wii? Am I understanding that correctly? |
| 03:12 | <gdb> | Hah! That's awesome! |
| 03:12 | <Jimi33> | I though about lenny but according to gc linus lenny has a working dvd driver but the wifi wont work |
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| 03:12 | <Jimi33> | yup |
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| 03:13 | <Jimi33> | there are 20 or so wii distros |
| 03:13 | <gdb> | Well, you certainly have an excuse then. Most folks that come in here running something that old can only say "it's the CD I had." Meaning: No reason at all. ;-) |
| 03:13 | <fcrs> | if it's 'Wii Linux' from wiibrew, it uses a custom kernel so maybe squeeze userland will not work |
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| 03:13 | <Jimi33> | I have tried the etch,lenny and archii |
| 03:14 | <Jimi33> | no they are different, i will try that as it is newer |
| 03:14 | <Jimi33> | Im on this |
| 03:14 | <Jimi33> | http://gbatemp.net/topic/177262-wii-linux-xwhiite-02-with-working-wifi-tutorial/ |
| 03:14 | <Jimi33> | this version was highly reccommended to me |
| 03:14 | <Jimi33> | etch |
| 03:15 | <Jimi33> | there is no public key available |
| 03:15 | <Jimi33> | thats the new error |
| 03:16 | <gdb> | You may need to import this signing key: http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release.gpg |
| 03:17 | <gdb> | At least I think that's what it is (I'm open to correction). I don't know that much about key signing and the like. Never need to use it. |
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| 03:17 | <Jimi33> | ill try it |
| 03:17 | <Jimi33> | ill be afk here for a bit |
| 03:18 | <gdb> | Ah, no, that's not a signing key. That's the signature of the Releases file. |
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| 03:19 | <gdb> | http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys/archive-key-4.0.asc there you go |
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| 03:20 | <gdb> | That's the Etch signing key |
| 03:20 | <gdb> | You'll want to import that. |
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| 03:20 | <jm_> | etch also has debian-archive-keyring package |
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| 03:22 | <gdb> | I do wonder if using that key is going to help. It may be expired as per http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html |
| 03:22 | <gdb> | The following retired and in most cases expired keys are available. Note that these keys are no longer in use and are listed here for reference purposes only: |
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| 03:54 | <afuentes> | when i cat a file it does not show -->ñ properly. When i edit it in vim, it shows ñ fine. If i type ñ, it shows fine as well... what did i touch to mess it up? |
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| 04:03 | <fanghao> | yesterday I installed fbterm to display chinese charactors on tty, but it didn't work, after I typed "fbterm", It said:unsupported framebuffer device! |
| 04:04 | <WizardNumberNext> | fanghao, you have to run fbterm on FrameBuffer |
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| 04:04 | <WizardNumberNext> | it doesn't run on text terminal, onlt frame buffer terminal |
| 04:05 | <WizardNumberNext> | s/onlt/only/ |
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| 04:07 | <fanghao> | okay, but is ti possible to display and input chinese in tty? |
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| 04:10 | <wilesan> | hey |
| 04:10 | <wilesan> | someone is there |
| 04:10 | <wilesan> | ? |
| 04:11 | <devil> | wilesan: my client tells me, its 470 people here |
| 04:11 | <WizardNumberNext> | fanghao, I do not see any reason why not. Most probably you can. You need to change both font and conding of terminal. |
| 04:12 | <devil> | wilesan: so please ask your question, don't ask if someone is here |
| 04:12 | <wilesan> | ok |
| 04:13 | <WizardNumberNext> | fanchao, I would try to find out where you can change it and I would come back to you |
| 04:13 | <wilesan> | i want to know how to install qq in ubuntu enviroment |
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| 04:14 | <wilesan> | this is my first time to come here |
| 04:14 | <fanghao> | WizardNumberNext:you are so nice, thank you, I'm waiting:) |
| 04:14 | <Sicelo> | !ubuntu |
| 04:14 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 04:15 | <WizardNumberNext> | fangchao, we are here to help each other. You need help, I can find answer, so why I should not do it? I like helping. |
| 04:15 | <devil> | wilesan: you are in the wrong channel |
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| 04:16 | <devil> | wilesan: no query please |
| 04:16 | <wilesan> | sorry |
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| 04:17 | <devil> | wilesan: Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead |
| 04:17 | <fanghao> | WizrdNumbernext:additionally, I'm using Debian English Version, and It can display chinese Char on gnome |
| 04:17 | <wilesan> | ok thankyou |
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| 04:17 | <WizardNumberNext> | fangchao, /etc/console-tools/config SCREEN_FONT and APP_CHARSET_MAP unfortunately I can't read chinese, so I won't find font for you, cause it would switch my terminal to chinese, which I do not want for myself |
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| 04:20 | <WizardNumberNext> | fangchao, it could be SCREEN_FONT_MAP as well, but comment tells to do not change it unless it is necesary for you font, so if it would not work, then try to change this one as well |
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| 04:25 | <fanghao> | WizardNumberNext:okay, I'll try this,and I find you finding solution really soon:) |
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| 04:34 | <WizardNumberNext> | fangchao, you are free to give me hand, when it would be needed. I just wanted to say - this channel is made to support debian in general, so I joined, cause I like to help. |
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| 04:45 | <fanghao> | top |
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| 04:50 | <ayaka> | https://paste.debian.net/164558/ , it seems udev works well,but still no tty,I wonder is there any error in kernel config |
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| 04:54 | <gdb> | I get a certificate error accessing paste.debian.net that I've not gotten before. |
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| 04:55 | <gdb> | The certificate doesn't expire until 2013, but I'm being told it was signed by an unknown authority. |
| 04:55 | <ayaka> | gdb: well http can also work |
| 04:55 | <themill> | gdb: https everywhere |
| 04:55 | <ayaka> | http://paste.debian.net/164558/ |
| 04:56 | <ayaka> | our school will stop http in the noon(what i did that time),but not https |
| 04:56 | <jm_> | you still have "rc 2" running, which is rather strange |
| 04:57 | <themill> | gdb: there's a chain of trust back to the SPI certificate that I thought was accepted by Debian browsers. |
| 04:57 | <jm_> | indeed, it's like that here |
| 04:58 | <ayaka> | jm_ yes,but much better,I have downgrade udev, it seems udev work more normally,I can't operate that OS,but i can print something by rc.local |
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| 04:58 | <gdb> | That must be why I see this. I've not used https on the pastebin before and I'm not using a Linux (let alone Debian) system to read it. I'll accept the certificate. |
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| 04:58 | * | gdb is on a Mac right now. |
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| 05:00 | <jm_> | ayaka: well yeah, rc.local also runs according to your ps output, but does it ever finish? |
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| 05:00 | <ayaka> | jm_ i don't know,the output before syslog are printed by rc.local |
| 05:01 | <gdb> | Is it possible to provide sysv style ps output? |
| 05:01 | <gdb> | bsd ps is garbage |
| 05:01 | <gdb> | without parent pids you can't connect any dots |
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| 05:01 | <gdb> | if not, then please run it like this |
| 05:01 | <gdb> | ps aux -O ppid |
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| 05:01 | <ayaka> | gdb: I will try wait a moment |
| 05:01 | <jm_> | ayaka: ahh so this is not an output once the system is booted normally, but captured during boot? |
| 05:02 | <gdb> | sorry for the mini rant, i've been farting around with a netbsd system and the lack of sysv ps drives me up the wall |
| 05:02 | <assa> | Hi! I'm using squeeze and I'm wondering why I get openssh/1:5.5p1-6+squeeze1 instead of openssh/1:5.5p1-6+squeeze2 which has the already closed bug #657445? |
| 05:03 | <gdb> | I've the same version you do. |
| 05:03 | <gdb> | perhaps it's in proposed updates |
| 05:03 | <jm_> | assa: squeeze2 is in squeeze-proposed-updates only |
| 05:03 | <gdb> | ta da |
| 05:03 | <ayaka> | jm_ yes,X don't start,told me can't find tty7 file |
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| 05:04 | <themill> | ,v openssh-client |
| 05:04 | <judd> | Package: openssh-client on i386 -- lenny: 1:5.1p1-5; squeeze: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze2; sid: 1:5.9p1-5; wheezy: 1:5.9p1-5 |
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| 05:04 | <gdb> | So it's not yet been published to the main archives. |
| 05:05 | <themill> | s-p-u packages are believed to be usable and will be copied over to stable at the next point release unless someone screams |
| 05:05 | <assa> | jm_: Ok, I see. Is there anyway to follow the progress of these proposed-updates? |
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| 05:06 | <ansgar> | assa: http://wiki.debian.org/StableProposedUpdates |
| 05:06 | <assa> | ansgar: thanks! |
| 05:07 | <assa> | Thanks all! |
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| 05:07 | <jm_> | ayaka: is this a kernel you have configured and built? |
| 05:08 | <ayaka> | jm_ yes,but the other part is debian |
| 05:08 | <jm_> | ayaka: ok so check how you have configured "Device drivers -> Character devices" section |
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| 05:09 | <ayaka> | jm_ i see |
| 05:10 | <ayaka> | jm_ gdb themill thank you,I have to come back home.class is over,thank you,I will be back |
| 05:11 | <jm_> | ayaka: no problem |
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| 05:46 | <bkhero> | Hi, i have a problem with nfsv4, ldap and kerberos. Has anybody experience with it? |
| 05:47 | <felixdz> | I installed squeeze using the installer and the guided dm-crypt option. |
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| 05:48 | <felixdz> | My laptop does no hibernate. Is there anything I can do to fix so it does with dm-crypt and swap? |
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| 05:57 | <engla> | felixdz: sounds like it could be unimplemented. You'd need an encrypted hibernation file and to input its password when resuming |
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| 05:59 | <fcrs> | felixdz: that's what i do, hibernation works but need to enter password when resuming |
| 05:59 | <engla> | I don't have any specific knowledge though |
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| 06:24 | <gnugr> | !tell bkhero -about nfsv4 |
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| 06:27 | <king> | heelo |
| 06:27 | <king> | can any body help me |
| 06:27 | <devil> | we don't know |
| 06:27 | <king> | you dont know what |
| 06:27 | <king> | i dont told you yet |
| 06:27 | <devil> | if we can help syou |
| 06:27 | <king> | hahahah |
| 06:27 | <devil> | exactly. |
| 06:27 | <king> | you look like a great thinker |
| 06:27 | <king> | huh |
| 06:28 | <king> | okay i want spoof someone dns |
| 06:28 | <devil> | then you are totaly wrong here. |
| 06:28 | <king> | and why is that |
| 06:28 | <EmleyMoor> | We'll not help you with that |
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| 06:28 | <king> | you cant help a poor man filled with regret |
| 06:29 | <devil> | king: go play elsewhere |
| 06:29 | <king> | plz |
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| 06:29 | <king> | no i am serios about it |
| 06:30 | <movl> | what'd I miss? :P |
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| 06:32 | <laura> | ola |
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| 06:32 | <themill> | !ubuntu-es laura |
| 06:32 | <dpkg> | laura: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
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| 06:32 | <Guest1385> | quienes sis?? |
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| 06:33 | * | devil gets the feeling, themill is clairvoyant |
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| 07:19 | <zsolt> | hi there.I try to install simon speech recognizer.why it isn't in the repos? |
| 07:20 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 501] by debhelper |
| 07:20 | <zsolt> | tryed with ubuntu package,the problem is khelpcenter |
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| 07:20 | <zsolt> | searched a lot,but cant find any suggestions |
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| 07:26 | <|Ferderik> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=596511 |
| 07:26 | <|Ferderik> | RFP: simon -- Open source speech recognition |
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| 07:28 | <AgentC> | hi |
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| 07:29 | <AgentC> | when i add deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org $distri main to sources.list, there is an publickey error, how to solve this ? |
| 07:29 | <|Ferderik> | AgentC: read the FAQ: http://debian-multimedia.org/faq |
| 07:30 | <themill> | zsolt: based on the discussion on that bug, I wouldn't expect to see simon in debian any time soon; also, don't try installing .debs made for a different distribution on your debian box, that will end in tears |
| 07:30 | <gnugr> | AgentC:did you run before "apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring"? |
| 07:30 | <zsolt> | thank you |
| 07:30 | <AgentC> | no |
| 07:30 | <themill> | AgentC: also, think twice about whether you really need dmm at all. It causes more problems than it solves these days |
| 07:31 | <AgentC> | themill: maybe, lame encoder is not on the normal packs, i need it for shouldcast broadcasting |
| 07:31 | <themill> | ,v lame --release squeeze-backprots |
| 07:31 | <judd> | Package: lame on i386 -- lenny-multimedia: 3.98.2-0.4; squeeze-multimedia: 3.98.4-0.0; squeeze-backports: 3.98.4+repack2-3~bpo60+1; sid: 3.99.5+repack1-3; wheezy: 3.99.5+repack1-3; sid-multimedia: 1:3.99.5-0.1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:3.99.5-0.1 |
| 07:31 | <themill> | silly bot |
| 07:31 | <themill> | AgentC: you'll see it's in debian itself, no need for dmm |
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| 07:32 | <AgentC> | hm, i searched in aptitude, no result |
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| 07:34 | <AgentC> | i saw solution of darkice, is there any other broadcaster software like SAM broadcaster for linux avail ? |
| 07:34 | <|Ferderik> | you need to have squeeze-backports repository for squeeze |
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| 07:36 | <AgentC> | SAm broadcaster is commecial software, would like to have a free possiblity for private use |
| 07:36 | <AgentC> | that one is working pretty nice, but i have no 300 euro for this. (see http://s12.pop-stream.de:12300) |
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| 07:39 | <gnugr> | AgentC:you mean the dj console from Sam broadcast? |
| 07:39 | <AgentC> | oui |
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| 07:51 | <AgentC> | thanx much |
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| 07:57 | <gnugr> | AgentC:i found only the internet DJ console for linux "apt-get install idjc" check it to see if it is good for you |
| 07:57 | <liveOs> | hello |
| 07:57 | <AgentC> | gnugr: thnx. ill try |
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| 07:59 | <liveOs> | i am trying to disable graphical boot on startup, i found the script link for gdm3 in rc1.d folder (K01gdm3), so if i replace the K with S, will the script still be executed? |
| 07:59 | <themill> | !nodm |
| 07:59 | <dpkg> | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 07:59 | <rgms> | Hi. Is there a way to disable the "patch notes" like this: http://pastebin.com/ktj1ufWK from showing up? |
| 08:00 | <ansgar> | rgms: Uninstall apt-listchanges. |
| 08:00 | <themill> | rgms: that's a NEWS item rather than a changelog item -- you usually want to read NEWS items and they are not that frequent. You might want to "dpkg-reconfigure apt-listchanges" (or even uninstall that package) to disable that feature. |
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| 08:01 | <liveOs> | themill, i do not want to disable it, i still want to access it by startx command... |
| 08:01 | <themill> | liveOs: startx is not related to gdm |
| 08:01 | <rgms> | alright |
| 08:01 | <|Ferderik> | display manager != startx |
| 08:01 | <rgms> | I just think I've never gained anything from them and they pop up and pause my upgrades |
| 08:01 | <liveOs> | yes, but the startx will lunch the default WM right? |
| 08:02 | <themill> | liveOs: that's also unrelated to gdm |
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| 08:03 | <liveOs> | themill, what you mean? |
| 08:04 | <jm_> | startx uses whichever it finds first - ~/.xsession, x-wsession-manager, x-window-manager, x-terminal-emulator |
| 08:04 | <themill> | liveOs: gdm is only a screen where you type your username and password. |
| 08:04 | <jm_> | without typos ... |
| 08:04 | <|Ferderik> | http://wiki.debian.org/Xinitrc |
| 08:05 | <liveOs> | themill, i know the diffrence between display manager and windows manager and xserver, i just want to disable the graphical boot at startup, not gdm |
| 08:05 | <liveOs> | ok |
| 08:05 | <|Ferderik> | well, then this is valid: ""echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM |
| 08:05 | <themill> | liveOs: what do you mean by "graphical boot at startup" that is not "gdm" |
| 08:06 | <|Ferderik> | he wants to be able to run gdm by hand, not have it started automatically |
| 08:06 | <themill> | |Ferderik: then why is he talking about startx? |
| 08:06 | <AgentC> | gnugr: that looks good :) if i get it going. this will take a while. thank you very much for your help. ill invite you to my first party-network session :-) |
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| 08:08 | <jm_> | AgentC: not sure if this is what you want, but here's also something about it http://lwn.net/Articles/481607/ |
| 08:09 | <AgentC> | gnugr: is darkice ok for streaming the output for this app ? |
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| 08:10 | <AgentC> | gnugr: i compiled it right now |
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| 08:10 | <SynrG> | liveOs: as for your earlier confusion about how to modify init scripts, i think you would do well to study update-rc.d man page. and be aware debian boots into runlevel 2 by default. |
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| 08:13 | <fcrs> | liveOs: something like 'update-rc.d gdm disable 2' would probably do what you want |
| 08:14 | <streuner> | dpkg, listvals update-rc.d |
| 08:14 | <dpkg> | Factoid search of 'update-rc.d' by value (15): rc2.d ;; update-rc.d ;; sysv-rc-conf ;; rcconf ;; run at startup ;; services ;; custom startup script ;; rc.d ;; chkconfig ;; debian way ;; init.d ;; sysv-rc ;; runlevel ;; rc.l ;; bum. |
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| 08:19 | <liveOs> | sorry for the AFK , i will try to cache up with you guys , thanks for the help |
| 08:21 | <AgentC> | shortest computer joke : "might run" :=) |
| 08:21 | <rgms> | Hi. I changed the move window key (mouse-button-modifier) in dconf-editor (org > gnome > desktop > wm > preferences) from <Alt> to <Super>. Super didn't work so I changed it back, but now even Alt doesn't work. Any ideas? |
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| 08:23 | <liveOs> | ok, i read all update-rc.d and init scripts , and i basically know the debian bootup procedure, and i a trying to disable the auto graphical login script, not the windows manager, so when i boot, i will dropped to runlevel 2 , login, then type startx to load the xsession... |
| 08:23 | <jm_> | so do what dpkg has said about "nodm" |
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| 08:24 | <@weasel> | liveOs: deinstall your DM? |
| 08:24 | <@weasel> | (or move the rc*/S* symlink to rc*/K* and run insserv) |
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| 08:26 | <|Ferderik> | as explained before: just remove all display managers if you just want to use startx |
| 08:26 | <liveOs> | not long ago i hade to install nvidea graphical drivers, so i disable the kdm script located in runlevel 2, and that did the trick, butt the os was gentoo and the windows manager was KDE |
| 08:27 | <liveOs> | weasel, yes, the second option is what i know, butt will it work in debian, according to the readme file in init.d , it should |
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| 08:28 | <liveOs> | |Ferderik, ok thanks |
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| 08:49 | <alumno> | ola |
| 08:49 | <babilen> | !es |
| 08:49 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 08:49 | <spiderman> | hi |
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| 08:50 | <alumno_> | hola |
| 08:50 | <alumno_> | que tal? |
| 08:51 | <alumno_> | kdjhǵñlh |
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| 09:01 | <gnugr> | AgentC:i don't know much about it,just found it for you check here: http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/Internet-DJ-Console-Review-27569.shtml |
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| 09:06 | <hw> | !fi |
| 09:06 | <dpkg> | methinks fi is Finland, or the end of an if block, or an abbreviation for First-In....as in FIFO First In First Out, or /join #debian-fi |
| 09:07 | <perlwizard> | funny |
| 09:07 | <EmleyMoor> | How do I make a remote control (mceusb2 type) work with mythtv in Debian squeezeL |
| 09:07 | <EmleyMoor> | ? |
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| 09:08 | <mpoole> | hi guys, |
| 09:09 | <mpoole> | I created a .deb with a dep on libldap-2.4.2 (>= 2.4) but when I try to install it, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/F2CPWmDv |
| 09:09 | <mpoole> | (debian squeeze) |
| 09:09 | <mpoole> | any ideas? |
| 09:10 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes - it's 2.4-2, not 2.4.2 |
| 09:10 | <mpoole> | ah |
| 09:10 | <mpoole> | doh |
| 09:12 | <mpoole> | ty EmleyMoor |
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| 09:24 | <AgentC> | gnugr: i saw so far, out of a reason i cannot connect to my stream-server, dunno why, configprobs maybe. thank you anyway, i try to find an answer in google. |
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| 09:25 | <liveos> | hello again, any idea about "gtk-gnash" problems in debian stable? |
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| 09:26 | <gnugr> | AgentC:make an account on dyndns.org or no-ip to get a domain name for use |
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| 09:27 | <liveos> | AgentC, you can try dot.tk free and great |
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| 09:28 | <AgentC> | gnugr: no, not neccarry, the stream have to go to the streamserver i rent, (s12.pop-stream.de:12300) with SAM broadcaster it works, but idjc cant connect, dunno why. parameters was ok |
| 09:28 | <liveos> | gtk-gnash is eating my cpus alive, with only one browser tab, and thats it.... and my debian is updated and fresh installed 1 hours ago... any one? |
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| 09:30 | <AgentC> | gnugr: is ok, let that be my problem. thank you, but if you like to listen some trance-music at moment open url with winamp/player http://s12.pop-stream.de:12300 .... it is not online all the day... |
| 09:32 | <gnugr> | AgentC:got it, is that your streaming? |
| 09:32 | <AgentC> | yep! |
| 09:32 | <gnugr> | nice m8 |
| 09:33 | <AgentC> | 8=) |
| 09:33 | <lbcadden3> | liveos , I had same problem plus it would keep running after closing the browser, uninstalled and downloaded adobes, not worth it to me to spend time looking for fixes |
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| 09:38 | <gnugr> | AgentC:i use vlc,i hear it lound 'n clear |
| 09:38 | <AgentC> | gnugr: vlc is ok, only prob i have with, it does not in root mode ;-))) (yeahea i know, shouldnt be ;)) |
| 09:39 | <MTecknology> | So.. a release upgrade is as simple as s/lenny/squeeze/ in sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 09:39 | <MTecknology> | That seems almost too easy |
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| 09:40 | <liveos> | lbcadden3, mmmm you mean you uninstalled the hole package gnash and the browsers are working fine with adobs? |
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| 09:41 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: yea, change source.list then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, reboot |
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| 09:42 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: seems just too darned easy |
| 09:42 | <gnugr> | MTecknology:only if you have had in use backports, must be removed |
| 09:42 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: dist-upgrade can take up to 3 hours, depends on your line, you should do a backup before if something goes wrong. |
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| 09:43 | <lbcadden3> | liveos, yes |
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| 09:44 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: i had fatal errors on distupgrade to testing, again and again. was lucky about to have a backup of my sys-partition |
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| 09:45 | <MTecknology> | no backports were used, they're load balanced machines and I could handle the one blowing up, but we do have backups |
| 09:45 | <MTecknology> | too bad it's a physical machine and a snapshot can't just be created |
| 09:46 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: partition save by dd if=/dev/xxx1 of=/yourarchivedrive/file.img |
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| 09:46 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: partition recover by dd if=/yourarchivedrive/file.img of=/dev/xxx1 |
| 09:47 | <ayaka> | i have try to dpkg to hold packages,but apt will still upgrade them,i know aptitude |
| 09:47 | <liveos> | MTecknology, you can also use mksquashfs, you can after that mout the image (partition.squashfs) and chroot... |
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| 09:48 | <liveos> | lbcadden3, what adobs should i install? |
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| 09:54 | <lbcadden3> | use the package manager, apt-get/aptitude/ or synaptic to remove gnash then install flashplugin-nonfree, you will need to have contrib in you sources.list |
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| 10:15 | <Pikon> | Hola |
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| 10:15 | <Pikon> | Polla |
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| 10:15 | <AgentC> | !es |
| 10:15 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 10:16 | <babilen> | AgentC: Please /unignore PART/JOIN/QUIT as you'll end up speaking to people who are no longer in the channel. (Pikon, for example, left already) |
| 10:17 | <AgentC> | babilen: sorry, i registered that to late, i now, sorry for this |
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| 10:29 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: all done, no issues, aside from config changes it was right near seamless |
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| 10:31 | <jesusa> | holaaa |
| 10:31 | <POLLAS> | holaaaaaa |
| 10:31 | <jesusa> | ke acesç |
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| 10:31 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: all works after distupgrade? |
| 10:31 | <jesusa> | kitarse coñooo |
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| 10:32 | <POLLAS> | agentC ES UN GILIPOLLAS |
| 10:32 | <AgentC> | !es |
| 10:32 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 10:32 | <themill> | !es-social POLLAS, jesusa |
| 10:32 | <dpkg> | POLLAS, jesusa: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
| 10:32 | <POLLAS> | dpkg,QUE COÑO DICES? |
| 10:32 | <dpkg> | i haven't a clue, POLLAS |
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| 10:32 | <mhall119> | who can I talk to about screenshots.debian.net? |
| 10:33 | <jesusa> | eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
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| 10:33 | <AgentC> | multilogin :-( |
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| 10:34 | <ansgar> | mhall119: See the about page (you can find a link to it at the bottom). |
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| 10:35 | <mhall119> | ansgar: thanks |
| 10:35 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: seems to, it's only an ntp server and file (nignx) server |
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| 10:35 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: only about 30 more systems to upgrade :D |
| 10:36 | <AgentC> | GOOD LUCK :-) |
| 10:36 | <MTecknology> | most of them I can at least make snapshots for |
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| 10:38 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: just use a bashscript, better then to individual handle any of that 30 systems |
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| 10:38 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: saving time |
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| 10:40 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: except for config changes, some i want to move back to package maintained and some I want to leave the custom changes and some I want to merge some changes; or is there an easy way to handle those? |
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| 10:42 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: on that topic... golly i sure does love how debian handles config changes |
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| 10:44 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: a downgrade to SLINK would ignore your config files ; BIG SMILE |
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| 10:49 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: mostly it is ok, programmers handle in new versions mostly even old configs by translating to the newer fileformat |
| 10:50 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: software developement standard , even on smaller engineers |
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| 10:56 | <butthead> | exit |
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| 10:57 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: does it work on you ? |
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| 11:08 | <tom2bor> | I use preseed to auto install debian. There is samba-common which ask for the domain name. How to auto answer this question? |
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| 11:16 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: does what work on me? |
| 11:18 | <AgentC> | MTecknology: your upgrade, 29 systems left ? |
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| 11:19 | <MTecknology> | AgentC: oh- I don't know the exact number of machines. We actually have ~300 lenny machines, but some of those will be obsolete and decomissioned soon |
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| 11:20 | <MTecknology> | The config changes are pretty much just default changes as opposed to style changes |
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| 11:20 | <MTecknology> | I don't expect to have any issues upgrading the remaining machines |
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| 11:29 | <mint> | how can i set up raid10 on debian? |
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| 11:53 | <Jimi33> | Anyone know any cool debian etch apps? I am a noob running etch on my wii |
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| 11:59 | <benahoare> | hola |
| 11:59 | <Jimi33> | ole |
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| 12:00 | <benahoare> | hola |
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| 12:02 | <daemonkeeper> | Jimi33: Etch is not exactly bleeding edge software. That said, you can find obsolete packages for Etch on archive.debian.org |
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| 12:05 | <Jimi33> | i understand, the wii wont run much else well |
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| 12:11 | <ashka> | oh btw, I did a debootstrap install |
| 12:11 | <ashka> | and apt yells at me everytime because the repositories aren't signed |
| 12:11 | <ashka> | how could I sign that ? |
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| 12:12 | <gdb> | Import this key into apt: http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys/archive-key-4.0.asc |
| 12:12 | <knoppix_> | testing |
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| 12:12 | <gdb> | apt-key add http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys/archive-key-4.0.asc # I believe this should do it. |
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| 12:13 | <ashka> | hmm |
| 12:13 | <ashka> | seems it needs to be wget before |
| 12:14 | <ashka> | so wget -O- http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys/archive-key-4.0.asc | apt-key add - works fine |
| 12:14 | <ashka> | thanks |
| 12:14 | <gdb> | Ah, yes. |
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| 12:28 | <rggomes> | Algum brasileiro? |
| 12:28 | <themill> | !br |
| 12:28 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 12:28 | <rggomes> | !br |
| 12:28 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 12:29 | <rggomes> | Ninguem responde no debian-br |
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| 12:29 | <rggomes> | nobody person answer in the debian-br |
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| 12:30 | <abrotman> | rggomes: wait a bit, they may be a bit slow .. |
| 12:30 | <themill> | patience! |
| 12:30 | <abrotman> | there may also be #debian-pt, not sure anymore |
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| 12:31 | <rggomes> | Ok. I am boried. My apt-get have problems |
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| 12:32 | <rggomes> | And i need some help, I newbie in the linux |
| 12:33 | <rggomes> | Sorry, my english isn't very good |
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| 12:35 | <rggomes> | I remove source.list without intention and I create a new source.list, but, when I use apt-get update, the apt-get don't be update. |
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| 12:37 | <anbe> | bat |
| 12:37 | <anbe> | !bat |
| 12:37 | <dpkg> | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 12:43 | <rggomes> | dpkg, Friend, In this exactly moment, I don't make this test, because I don't install the wireless card in my notebook and I don't have cable connection for execute apt-get e paste this information. |
| 12:43 | <dpkg> | rggomes: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 12:44 | <rggomes> | I don't learn how install wireless card in Debian |
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| 12:46 | <kop> | rggomes: dpkg is a bot |
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| 12:47 | <rggomes> | hehe! Thank's |
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| 12:51 | <anbe> | rggomes, but you should follow dpkg's hints about providing more information about your apt-get problem if you want someone to help troubleshooting it |
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| 12:54 | <SynrG> | rggomes: you could at least copy the info somehow to the system where you have net access and pastebin it from there |
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| 13:00 | <Jimi33> | what desktop should I install in etch? XFCE4? wii has limited ram |
| 13:00 | <abrotman> | did he tell us which card it is yet? |
| 13:01 | <abrotman> | Jimi33: etch is woefully unsupported and insecure at this point |
| 13:01 | <sney> | but if I were stuck with etch for some reason I'd probably install wmaker |
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| 13:01 | <houms> | hey guys i gotta friend who wants to install debian on x64 and he had a question about the dvd downloads and how many of them he needs? any one got a link i can provide him to explain why there are so many dvds? |
| 13:01 | <abrotman> | houms: does he have broadband ? |
| 13:01 | <houms> | i told him the first dvd is probably sufficient as he can get the rest over the net |
| 13:02 | <EmleyMoor> | houms: If he's got an Internet connection, the first is more than enough. |
| 13:02 | <sney> | houms, yeah, the dvd set is every single package available in debian |
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| 13:02 | <sney> | it's the whole archive. |
| 13:02 | <abrotman> | if he has broadband .. he should use the netinst, not a DVD |
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| 13:02 | <Jimi33> | im stuck on etch cause its the only dist that i can get the wii wifi working. Running etch on the wii. the forums say XFCE4 takes almost too much ram but still usable, wmaker more efficent as far as ram goes than xfce4? |
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| 13:03 | <abrotman> | what is the wii wifi device ? |
| 13:03 | <Jimi33> | it uses openfwwf |
| 13:03 | <houms> | so dvd's 2-8 provide the entire repo? |
| 13:03 | <Jimi33> | broaccomm somrthing |
| 13:03 | <sney> | houms, yep. |
| 13:03 | <Jimi33> | broadcom |
| 13:03 | <abrotman> | houms: 1-8, yes |
| 13:03 | <houms> | i assume that is just main or is contrib and non-free as well? |
| 13:03 | <abrotman> | houms: just main |
| 13:04 | <abrotman> | houms: really, if he has broadband .. use the netinst, far more efficient |
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| 13:04 | <Jimi33> | any ideas? |
| 13:04 | <abrotman> | Jimi33: use lspci -nn .. tell us the real device |
| 13:05 | <houms> | thanks for the info guys, passing them along as we speak |
| 13:05 | <sney> | Jimi33, wmaker uses hardly any memory at all. I use it on anything with tiny resources. the interface may be weird to you at first but it's pretty easy to figure out. right click on the desktop. |
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| 13:05 | <abrotman> | houms: and then netinst can easily be used from a small USB drive/thumbdrive |
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| 13:07 | <sney> | Jimi33, if it's a broadcom nic and it works in etch but not newer releases, it probably requires firmware that was removed from the kernel post-etch. this firmware will be packaged separately but still available. |
| 13:07 | <perlwizard> | what's a recommended video editor that's available from official repos? |
| 13:07 | <tony> | ciao |
| 13:07 | <perlwizard> | I don't want to add debian multimedia just to get avidemux |
| 13:07 | <abrotman> | perlwizard: people seem to like kdenlive |
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| 13:08 | <perlwizard> | kde... |
| 13:08 | <perlwizard> | means a truckload of dependencies |
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| 13:08 | <perlwizard> | anything gtk friendly? |
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| 13:08 | <abrotman> | picky picky |
| 13:10 | <abrotman> | perlwizard: openshot ? |
| 13:10 | <Jimi33> | lspci not found |
| 13:10 | <abrotman> | Jimi33: install pciutils |
| 13:10 | <Jimi33> | lspci not found |
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| 13:10 | <abrotman> | so you said |
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| 13:10 | <Jimi33> | apt-get install pciutils? |
| 13:11 | <sney> | yes |
| 13:11 | <Jimi33> | didnt mean to repeat |
| 13:11 | <Jimi33> | ok will try |
| 13:12 | <sney> | if you run 'apt-get install fakepackagename' and apt can't find the package to install, nothing will break; so if you think you know the name of the package you need, you may as well just try installing it. |
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| 13:15 | <Jimi33> | dpkg:error processing fuse-utils,system group fuse already exists,exiting |
| 13:15 | <dpkg> | jimi33: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 13:16 | <perlwizard> | abrotman openshot depends on python-mlt2 | python-mlt3 but there is only python-mlt5 in apt, so it won't install |
| 13:16 | <Jimi33> | should I fix it or it dont matter? |
| 13:16 | <perlwizard> | as well as one other impossible to resolve dependency |
| 13:16 | <perlwizard> | I guess I'll just give up. |
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| 13:19 | <abrotman> | perlwizard: it's in stable, you shouldn't have that issue .. sounds like your sources are messed up |
| 13:19 | <sney> | Jimi33, you have to pastebin the whole output for us to know |
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| 13:19 | <abrotman> | judd: versions python-mlt2 |
| 13:19 | <judd> | Package: python-mlt2 on i386 -- squeeze: 0.5.6+git20100727-1 |
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| 13:19 | <perlwizard> | abrotman my sources are ok. |
| 13:19 | <sney> | judd, versions python-mlt5 |
| 13:19 | <judd> | Package: python-mlt5 on i386 -- sid: 0.7.8+git20120417-1 |
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| 13:20 | <abrotman> | judd: versions python-mpt3 |
| 13:20 | <sney> | perlwizard, does 'ok' to you mean sid? |
| 13:20 | <judd> | No package named 'python-mpt3' was found in i386. |
| 13:20 | <perlwizard> | sney yes |
| 13:20 | <abrotman> | judd: versions python-mlt3 |
| 13:20 | <judd> | Package: python-mlt3 on i386 -- wheezy: 0.7.8-2; squeeze-multimedia: 1:0.6.2-0.0; wheezy-multimedia: 1:0.7.8-0.2; sid-multimedia: 1:0.7.8-0.3 |
| 13:20 | <abrotman> | and there it is again .. |
| 13:20 | <sney> | perlwizard, well, you should be asking in #debian-next. |
| 13:20 | <abrotman> | perlwizard: so the package depenedenices are available |
| 13:20 | <abrotman> | sney: it's fine to ask here |
| 13:20 | <sney> | or at least saying "I'm running sid" so we don't assume otherwise. |
| 13:21 | <Jimi33> | command /msg dpkg pastebin says invalid folder |
| 13:21 | <abrotman> | perlwizard: aptitude update; aptitude install openshot .. what does it say ? |
| 13:21 | <sney> | Jimi33, anything beginning with '/msg' is supposed to be run in your irc client |
| 13:21 | <Jimi33> | oh |
| 13:21 | <perlwizard> | abrotman nevermind |
| 13:21 | <abrotman> | perlwizard: got it figured out ? |
| 13:22 | <Jimi33> | so ill open the client and type /msg dpkg pastebin and is should work? |
| 13:22 | <perlwizard> | no but I'll get over it rather than endure abuse from sney and the likes |
| 13:22 | <perlwizard> | thanks anyway |
| 13:22 | <Jimi33> | should I get in to this room? |
| 13:22 | <sney> | Jimi33, it's just to get the channel bot to give you instructions. |
| 13:22 | <abrotman> | okay .. if you say so .. your call |
| 13:22 | <sney> | abuse? |
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| 13:24 | <sney> | Jimi33, just copy the output of your apt-get command, paste it http://paste.debian.net/, and link it in here. |
| 13:24 | <Jimi33> | ahh |
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| 13:29 | <ratnick> | sney: info fdutils.info, Node: Ext2 (did it. I now have floppy access after making a file system on the disk) |
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| 13:30 | <ashka> | I ran into some problems with grub and GPT |
| 13:30 | <sney> | ratnick, congratulations. |
| 13:30 | <Jimi33> | stupid question but how to copy the optput? Whats the hotkey? |
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| 13:30 | <ratnick> | thanks again |
| 13:30 | <Jimi33> | i highlight it an press? |
| 13:30 | <ashka> | I have my /boot on a part on a GPT disk, and it says error: no such device: <uuid boot partition here> |
| 13:30 | <ashka> | and I'm being dropped on grub rescue |
| 13:31 | <sney> | Jimi33, usually ctrl-shift-c copies from an xterm, or you can pipe the output like apt-get foo 2>&1 > output.txt |
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| 13:31 | <ashka> | if I do ls, only (hd0) and (hd1) are detected |
| 13:31 | <ashka> | but there is 4 disks on my system |
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| 13:31 | <ashka> | are*ç |
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| 13:32 | <quitte> | hi. does eclipse work on sid for anyone? |
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| 13:33 | <sney> | quitte, check the bug tracker for sid problems. |
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| 13:33 | <sney> | ashka, last time I saw this issue it turned out to be bios related |
| 13:33 | <Jimi33> | ctrl+shift+c no work |
| 13:33 | <quitte> | sney: i did. and i'm surprised to not have found a report |
| 13:34 | <dvs> | eclipse doesn't even work on squeeze for me |
| 13:34 | <ashka> | hm, maybe (hd0) and (hd1) are the GPT device |
| 13:34 | <ashka> | the prefix in grub is (hd0,gpt1) |
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| 13:34 | * | abrotman thought most had gievn up on using the deiban packages for eclipse |
| 13:34 | <quitte> | dvs: hmm it should. |
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| 13:35 | <quitte> | abrotman: it was fine for a while. then came gtk3 and or oracle afaict |
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| 13:35 | <dvs> | abrotman: I have now |
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| 13:35 | <abrotman> | kind of like the wine situation |
| 13:35 | <Guest1434> | :) |
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| 13:35 | * | nph just installed debian and is now configuring it |
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| 13:36 | <quitte> | abrotman: wine isn't good in debian anymore? |
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| 13:36 | <sney> | wine in debian is ancient |
| 13:36 | <abrotman> | judd: versions winelib |
| 13:36 | <sney> | versions after 1.0.x failed to build on amd64 and it stalled there |
| 13:36 | <judd> | No package named 'winelib' was found in i386. |
| 13:37 | <quitte> | meh. last time i used it there was a wine-unstable package that usually was pretty new |
| 13:37 | <abrotman> | judd: versions libwine |
| 13:37 | <judd> | Package: libwine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; sid: 1.0.1-3.5; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 13:37 | <abrotman> | there we go :) |
| 13:38 | <sney> | quitte, yeah, there's the unofficial packages on carbon-project. |
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| 13:41 | <quitte> | sigh. I guess the best I can do to get a useful java installation is boot stable? |
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| 13:43 | <sney> | or if abrotman's comment is any indication, install eclipse from upstream. |
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| 13:43 | <quitte> | hmm. it comes with its own libswt. that won't help with rational rhapsody but at the moment all i need is eclipse |
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| 13:44 | <Lynxo> | !raid10 |
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| 13:45 | <Jimi33> | okay in need some apt calle keyring or something according to wii linux forums |
| 13:45 | <Jimi33> | what is the keyring? |
| 13:46 | <Jimi33> | apt-get install ? |
| 13:46 | <Lynxo> | does anyone know how to get raid10 working with debian server? |
| 13:46 | <Azulas> | How about apt-cache search keyring |
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| 13:47 | <sney> | Lynxo, with software raid? see http://wiki.debian.org/SoftwareRAID and read the 'md' docs |
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| 13:47 | <Lynxo> | sney: i'm trying to set up raid while installing |
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| 13:48 | <Juvenal> | hows my project look? any suggestions? http://hs.juvsoft.com:8888/ |
| 13:48 | <sney> | the install guide has that information |
| 13:48 | <Lynxo> | sney: where would ifind that? |
| 13:48 | <sney> | Juvenal, this is a debian support channel |
| 13:48 | <sney> | !ig |
| 13:48 | <dpkg> | The Installation Guide for Debian Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 13:49 | <nph> | how do I write the file list to a file? |
| 13:49 | <nph> | I tried this: "ls > file.txt" withotu success |
| 13:49 | <Juvenal> | sney, i designed it on debian? |
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| 13:49 | <sney> | Juvenal, so? it's not a support issue. if you want to share your work you can do it in #debian-offtopic or a social channel |
| 13:49 | <abrotman> | nph: ls &> file.txt ? |
| 13:49 | <nph> | abrotman what means the &? |
| 13:50 | <abrotman> | nph: google "bash redirection" |
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| 13:51 | <Lynxo> | sney: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition ? |
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| 13:51 | <nph> | thanks :> |
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| 13:52 | <sney> | Lynxo, looks like it to me |
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| 13:52 | <Jimi33> | so it looks like the apt-get installer is trying to rm and create Fuse. cannot remove 'fuse-': read only file system |
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| 13:53 | <Jimi33> | I cant get it to copy out of xterm |
| 13:53 | <Jimi33> | i just istalled wmaker,how do i switch to it? |
| 13:53 | <sney> | update-alternatives (or remove xfce4) |
| 13:54 | <sney> | if you're using a login manager it can also switch window managers for you |
| 13:54 | <Jimi33> | sney I run apt-get update-alternatives? |
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| 13:54 | <sney> | no, update-alternatives is a command, read 'man update-alternatives' for more information |
| 13:56 | <Lynxo> | sney: it had an explanation of raid10 but not instructions on how to |
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| 13:57 | <Jimi33> | read the man,still dont know what it does exactly |
| 13:57 | <Jimi33> | fresh noob here |
| 13:57 | <sney> | Lynxo, yes it did, you keep scrolling down. the part about 'mdcfg' ... |
| 13:57 | <sney> | Jimi33, well, it switches what applications provide defaults like window managers and browsers and glx |
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| 13:58 | <Lynxo> | sney: durring install? |
| 13:58 | <sney> | Lynxo, yes, mdcfg and partman are components of the debian installer. |
| 13:58 | <Lynxo> | hmmm... |
| 13:59 | <sney> | if you run the installer in expert mode it will expose these things to you a little more visibly |
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| 14:01 | <Jimi33> | my destop goes off the edges of my tv screen, anyone know how to resize the display in ETCH? |
| 14:01 | <Jimi33> | wmaker working |
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| 14:02 | <quitte> | Jimi33: it's called overscan. there might be a tool for your gpu or maybe there isn't. good luck. |
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| 14:06 | <Jimi33> | quitte any idea on apt name? |
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| 14:07 | <quitte> | Jimi33: nvtv |
| 14:07 | <sney> | I think the wii's gpu is an ati thing of some sort. |
| 14:08 | <quitte> | ah it's the wii guy |
| 14:09 | <Jimi33> | i am not sure how to fix, looks like tv setting for wii is in the kernel |
| 14:10 | <Jimi33> | i have 6 or 7 of em |
| 14:10 | <Jimi33> | ill try others I guess |
| 14:12 | <quitte> | Jimi33: you could try xvidtune from the x11-xserver-utils |
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| 14:13 | <Jimi33> | apt-get install x11-server-utils? |
| 14:14 | <Jimi33> | what should I use for flash and stuff on the iceweasel? |
| 14:14 | <quitte> | Jimi33: xserver notice the x |
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| 14:14 | <Jimi33> | right |
| 14:15 | <sney> | you might be SOL on flash since the wii is not x86 |
| 14:15 | <quitte> | it's no fun on x86, either |
| 14:15 | <quitte> | is the wii ppc or arm? |
| 14:15 | <Jimi33> | ill try apt-get install x11-xserver-utils |
| 14:15 | <sney> | it's supported at least. on the risc ports all you get is gnash |
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| 14:15 | <quitte> | apparently the arm flash plugin works sometimes |
| 14:16 | <Jimi33> | both ppc and arm files in wii, dunno how to answer |
| 14:16 | <quitte> | sney: not any more iirc |
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| 14:16 | <sney> | Jimi33, uname -r |
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| 14:17 | <Jimi33> | 2.6.32-isobell-wii |
| 14:17 | <quitte> | dpkg-architecture? |
| 14:18 | <daskreech> | Hello. I'm on Lenny and looking to install Postgresql |
| 14:18 | <quitte> | it's ppc. i don't think there ever was an adobe flash plugin for linuxppc |
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| 14:19 | <dvs> | daskreech: lenny isn't supported anymore |
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| 14:19 | <daskreech> | The apt search pulls up postgresql8.3 as does a search on p.d.o but the servers have postgresql8.4 How can I resolve that? |
| 14:19 | <sney> | oops, I meant -m |
| 14:19 | <quitte> | daskreech: archive.debian.nét |
| 14:19 | <daskreech> | quitte: ok I'll look at it |
| 14:19 | <dvs> | oooh, a french mirror! |
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| 14:20 | <quitte> | apparently i enable compositing |
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| 14:20 | <quitte> | enabled |
| 14:20 | <daskreech> | quitte: doesnt have lenny yet |
| 14:20 | <daskreech> | dvs: Why is lenny still on p.d.o ? |
| 14:20 | <Jimi33> | could not find package x11-xserver-utils |
| 14:20 | <test> | test |
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| 14:21 | <Jimi33> | uname -m ooutputs:ppc |
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| 14:21 | <dvs> | daskreech: So that people can migrate to squeeze before lenny is completely removed. |
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| 14:21 | <daskreech> | dvs: Ah fair enough |
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| 14:22 | <quitte> | daskreech: archive.debian.org seems to have lenny archives |
| 14:22 | <Jimi33> | wii supposedly runs lenny but I couldnt get wifi to work in lenny |
| 14:22 | <Jimi33> | cant find device |
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| 14:23 | <daskreech> | quitte: ok just not listed on the site? |
| 14:23 | <Jimi33> | what to use for ppc flash? any alternatives in etch? |
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| 14:23 | <daskreech> | quitte: http://archive.debian.net/lenny/ |
| 14:23 | <quitte> | Jimi33: gnash. but you'll probably prefer to just not use flash |
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| 14:24 | <Jimi33> | gnash sucks? will it play flash videos? I want a fully functional browser on my wii |
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| 14:25 | <quitte> | Jimi33: thanks to apple not having flash qualifies as fully functional ;) |
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| 14:25 | <Guest1441> | hi |
| 14:25 | <peeps> | while trying to install 12.04 get a message saying "video mode not supported" any ideas on how to get past this hurdle? |
| 14:25 | <dvs> | 12.04? |
| 14:25 | <peeps> | yes |
| 14:25 | * | dvs uses his time machine |
| 14:26 | <quitte> | Jimi33: and the get-flash-video package should take care of most situations where you still might want flash |
| 14:26 | <rev> | 12.04 is ubuntu, this is a debian channel |
| 14:26 | <peeps> | sorry7 |
| 14:26 | <rev> | !ubuntu |
| 14:26 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:26 | <rev> | there we go. |
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| 14:26 | <Guest1441> | hey |
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| 14:27 | <daskreech> | !ubuntuirc |
| 14:27 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 14:27 | <Guest1441> | anyone chat with me |
| 14:27 | <Jimi33> | which nash build? |
| 14:28 | <Guest1441> | jimi33 hi |
| 14:28 | <daskreech> | Guest1441: what's up? |
| 14:28 | <Jimi33> | hi |
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| 14:28 | <Guest1441> | hi dakreech this is my first irc chat and my first linux os |
| 14:28 | <Guest1441> | hi jimmi |
| 14:28 | <Jimi33> | quitte what should I apt-get? |
| 14:29 | <Guest1441> | any one tell me how to install openfoam |
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| 14:29 | <Guest1441> | in ubuntu 11.10 |
| 14:29 | <rev> | !ubuntu |
| 14:29 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:29 | <dvs> | rev: You're getting good at that! ;-P |
| 14:30 | <rev> | i know eh! |
| 14:30 | <quitte> | how does that even still happen that people confuse ubuntu and debian? by now lots of ubuntu users never even heard of debian. |
| 14:30 | <Guest1441> | what yarr no one talking?????????/ |
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| 14:30 | <daskreech> | Guest1441: can you type /server irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu |
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| 14:31 | -!- | mode/#debian [+q *!*@203.217.147.249] by abrotman |
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| 14:36 | <Jimi33> | swfdec? or gnash on wii etch ppc? |
| 14:36 | <daskreech> | dvs: Hosting doesn't have a squeeze option right now but I'll try do an upgrade and see how that goes |
| 14:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 14:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [-q *!*@203.217.147.249] by abrotman |
| 14:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
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| 14:37 | <Jimi33> | should I try updating to lenny? |
| 14:37 | <Jimi33> | how to do it through xterm |
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| 14:37 | <dvs> | daskreech: What do you mean by "hosting"? |
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| 14:38 | <dvs> | Jimi33: What do you have now? |
| 14:38 | <daskreech> | dvs: the hosting company doesn't have a squeeeze image for the server |
| 14:38 | <Jimi33> | im on etch, looks like someone got squeeze running |
| 14:38 | <dvs> | daskreech: Really? We'll they should have as of 2.5 months ago. |
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| 14:39 | <daskreech> | dvs: Yeah. what you going to do though |
| 14:40 | <dvs> | Jimi33: Someone? Lots of people are running Squeeze. |
| 14:40 | <sney> | dvs, on his specific hardware |
| 14:40 | <dvs> | Oh Wii |
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| 14:41 | <Jimi33> | there is a squeeze img but its hosted on fileserve |
| 14:41 | <Jimi33> | DAMNIT |
| 14:42 | <GetsEclectic> | anyone good with gptsync? having some problems that i thought were related to my bios boot partition confusing it but i upgraded to 14.2 and it's still giving me 'analysis inconclusive' |
| 14:42 | <Jimi33> | anyone know a way around the whole "cant downlowd it if you didnt upload it"? |
| 14:44 | <GetsEclectic> | maybe i'll try changing the type on the bios boot and then running gptsync |
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| 14:46 | <abrotman> | GetsEclectic: what is 14.2 ? |
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| 14:47 | * | dvs calls rev |
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| 14:48 | <GetsEclectic> | gptsync 14-2 |
| 14:48 | <GetsEclectic> | i'm actually running ubuntu which is is at 13.2 or something for gptsync |
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| 14:49 | <GetsEclectic> | so i installed the latest debian stable package in the hopes that it would recognize the bios boot partition and update my mbr |
| 14:49 | <GetsEclectic> | still refuses to update the mbr though |
| 14:50 | * | dvs calls rev again |
| 14:50 | <rev> | ha |
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| 14:50 | <Jimi33> | error while proccessing: fuse-util |
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| 14:51 | <babilen> | GetsEclectic: Ubuntu (oneiric) has 0.14 as well. I would *strongly* recommend to not mix packages from Debian squeeze with whatever Ubuntu version you are running. Furthermore you have to ask in #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net for support. Good luck! |
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| 14:52 | <rev> | took me a while to tweeze out ubuntu in that |
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| 14:54 | <GetsEclectic> | yeah i asked in #ubuntu but no one said anything, it's really a gptsync issue somewhat independent of distro |
| 14:54 | <GetsEclectic> | ubuntu users don't tend to be the most technically saavy |
| 14:55 | <Jimi33> | another thing guys, I cant use my wireless usb keyboard, only wirder |
| 14:55 | <Jimi33> | any ideas? |
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| 14:56 | <devil> | Jimi33: ' I cant use' is not an error report |
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| 14:58 | <razekinn> | Hey guys, someone could help me with 'apache2 proxy'? |
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| 14:59 | <Jimi33> | i understand but its not showing an error, my wired usb keyboard works, wireless does not respond at all, linux dont see it |
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| 15:00 | <devil> | Jimi33: dmesg should say something about it |
| 15:00 | <Jimi33> | what info can I supply? I cant figure out how to copy out of xterm on etch, ctrl c, shift c,ctrl shift c, tried a bunch more too, nothing works. ctrl c seems to kill xter procceses |
| 15:00 | <Jimi33> | what is dmesg? I am a noob |
| 15:00 | <Jimi33> | just run dmesg? |
| 15:00 | <devil> | Jimi33: you are a newb with debian on a wii? thats funny |
| 15:01 | <Jimi33> | lol |
| 15:01 | <Jimi33> | wii hacker, wanted to try this, I have a bit of mint and ubuntu and small amount of terminal experience |
| 15:02 | <Jimi33> | know BASIC stuff |
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| 15:02 | <Jimi33> | can follow instructions and I am very willing to read any tutorials or anything yu point me too. I lean this stuff through google |
| 15:03 | <Jimi33> | need new pc kyboard |
| 15:03 | <Jimi33> | coffee killed it |
| 15:04 | <devil> | Jimi33: grep <make of keyboard> | dmesg |
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| 15:09 | <mase> | devil: ??? not the other way around? dmesg | grep <blablabla> ? |
| 15:10 | <devil> | mase: try it. |
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| 15:38 | <Jimi33> | col flashplayer work on etch? |
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| 15:45 | <grove> | Jimi33: I had flash working when I ran etch. But etch is old-old-stable so it might be hard to make current versions of flasplayer work |
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| 15:47 | <gnugr> | Jimi33:etch was debian 4, now current release is debian 6 squeeze |
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| 15:49 | <scientes> | wow, ubuntu is pretty heavily forked from debian.... |
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| 16:20 | <abrotman> | scientes: and offtopic here, thanks |
| 16:20 | <SamSpade> | exit |
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| 16:20 | <dvs> | !exit |
| 16:20 | <dpkg> | /quit you fool! |
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| 16:20 | <scientes> | im getting a race condition of sorts that prevents udev from triggering gpsd on boot |
| 16:20 | <scientes> | i think its cause it triggers in the initramfs??? |
| 16:20 | <scientes> | and gpsd isn't available then |
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| 16:22 | <quentusrex_> | Anyone have information on how to configure a network interface for running a packet capture for a switch mirror port? |
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| 16:24 | <scientes> | quasisane, umm, just use wireshark which sets your ethernet device into promiscuous mode |
| 16:25 | <scientes> | then forging mac addresses is a pain, so you basically have to replace the switch with a hub AFAIK if you are not the bottleneck |
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| 16:25 | <quentusrex_> | scientes, I'm running this on a headless debian box, so testing with tshark. I already have the switch configured to mirror the traffic |
| 16:25 | <scientes> | i've read that wireshark can work over ssh, but it didn't seem easy |
| 16:26 | <quentusrex_> | the problem is that I can't locate documentation on how to configure the network interface if no outbound traffic is allowed on that switch port |
| 16:26 | <scientes> | and it didn't seem liek i could just install the capture binary, and not the whole thing |
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| 16:26 | <quentusrex_> | scientes, you can. |
| 16:26 | <quentusrex_> | tshark is the package name. |
| 16:26 | <scientes> | oh ok thx |
| 16:26 | <scientes> | and that includes "dumpcap" |
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| 16:39 | <debie> | i can connect to localhost:631 i need to add a printer and I cannnot do it because of that |
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| 16:39 | <debie> | i meant i can't connect |
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| 16:41 | <Guest1460> | Hola a todo el mundo. |
| 16:42 | <scientes> | !es |
| 16:42 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 16:42 | <Guest1460> | Ok. Sorry |
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| 16:44 | <jthomas_> | I have a Python GUI app running; due to CPU use the GUI has become all white and displays no info, even if I put that process in the background (with 'jobs'). Is there a way to force-refresh that GUI so i can see what it is currently doing (or paused with jobs) ? |
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| 17:25 | <gonzalo> | hola |
| 17:25 | <gonzalo> | hola |
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| 17:26 | <ichdasich> | ?! |
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| 18:08 | <scientes> | jthomas_, no, because the only reason that is happening is it is all in one process, with the GTK/foobarwidgettoolkit loop |
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| 18:18 | <engla> | jthomas_: your program needs to schedule gui updates manually if you are occupying the single thread of the program with computations |
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| 20:22 | <youlysses> | What other packages besides 'alsa' is needed for sound? I'm running a minimal dwm session, with emms (an emacs based mediaplayer), but getting no sound ... |
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| 20:23 | <robbiethe1st> | hm, what does 'alsamixer' say? |
| 20:23 | <robbiethe1st> | may need to install some alsa package to get access to it |
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| 20:27 | <youlysses> | I can get to alsamixer ... but it seems to have no effect? |
| 20:27 | <dvs> | rip out pulseaudio |
| 20:28 | <youlysses> | "rip out"? |
| 20:29 | <kop> | youlysses: He means remove the package. |
| 20:29 | <scientes> | youlysses, remove pulseaudio, apt-get purge pulseaudio |
| 20:30 | <scientes> | depends on what type of sound card you have however |
| 20:30 | <scientes> | if you have a really cheap sound card pulseaudio might be approiate |
| 20:30 | <scientes> | (which is basically every new computer) |
| 20:31 | <youlysses> | I have a really generic one, like everything else on this laptop ... :-L |
| 20:33 | <youlysses> | According no my system, pulse was never installed? All I did initially was an 'aptitude install alsa' |
| 20:33 | <youlysses> | *to |
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| 20:39 | <chealer> | is there a diff utility which works on binary files and shows a character-by-character comparison, but without assuming that compared files have the same length? that is, if B is "foo" followed by A's content, diffing A and B only shows the addition of "foo" as difference. |
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| 20:42 | <scientes> | chealer, yeah, try git |
| 20:43 | <scientes> | chealer, what you are talking about is called a delta |
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| 20:45 | <chealer> | scientes: I want to see the diff (I'm not even interested in getting a patch) |
| 20:46 | <sney> | you're still looking at that gzip thing from yesterday. |
| 20:47 | <chealer> | it looks like vbindiff does what I want, at least in easy cases like the one above, with a bit of help (changing the position manually) |
| 20:47 | <chealer> | sney: yes :-) it's progressing, but it's not an easy one :-S |
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| 20:47 | <scientes> | how about just run a diff on the outputs of hd chealer ? |
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| 20:47 | <scientes> | seems like a quick hack to do what you want |
| 20:47 | <sney> | indeed it does |
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| 20:51 | <boudiccas_> | test |
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| 20:55 | <chealer> | scientes: I guess that would need a few options. by default hd shows positions and 2 versions of the content, each version is output in chunks. |
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| 20:56 | <abrotman> | judd: info bsdiff |
| 20:56 | <judd> | Package bsdiff (utils, optional) in squeeze/i386: generate/apply a patch between two binary files. Version: 4.3-10; Size: 12.5k; Installed: 76k; Homepage: http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ |
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| 20:56 | <chealer> | to be clear, vbindiff did what I needed, so unless someone has a good tool to do that in the future, my problem is solved for now |
| 20:57 | <scientes> | chealer, by default the first and second of the data are the same for the same line, so it really isn't a problem, as diff works by lines |
| 20:58 | <youlysses> | According to my system I have alsa-utils installed, yet I can't use alsaconf? |
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| 20:59 | <Samkov> | hey all, can anyone suggest to me an app that can monitor and give me temps on my hardware, something similar to aida64 (everest)? |
| 21:00 | <chealer> | scientes: I'm not sure what you mean. the first version is hexadecimal. |
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| 21:00 | <chealer> | !tell youlysses about alsaconf |
| 21:01 | <scientes> | chealer, im saying that while it outputs two copies of the data, those two copies are on the same line, so as diff compares by line, diff wont show any excess info |
| 21:02 | <youlysses> | chealer, thanks! The wiki needs updated then ... |
| 21:02 | <chealer> | scientes: unless you have another definition of "excess info" than I do, I guess it would in my case, since all lines would be different. |
| 21:03 | <chealer> | Samkov: which desktop environment do you use? |
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| 21:03 | <Samkov> | i am on a gnome2 installation of debian squeeze amd64 |
| 21:04 | <youlysses> | Samkov, tried GNOME3 yet? |
| 21:04 | <Samkov> | yep :/ not a fan |
| 21:05 | <sney> | I kinda like it! but that's not the issue. Samkov, I'm pretty sure there are gnome2 panel widgets that show temps. |
| 21:07 | <scientes> | chealer, then it seems like you want a real diff, like what git does (but not very efficiently) |
| 21:07 | <scientes> | unless you stay in git |
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| 21:08 | <sney> | chealer just wants to figure out why his browser mangles a gzipped text file resulting in him being mocked on a bug report. |
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| 21:10 | <youlysses> | Samkov, are you a casual user? I think it's designed for them more so than a VAST majority of the 'hardcore' indviduals. But yeah, I think it's great , though I rarely use it over emacs/dwm. :-P |
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| 21:13 | <chealer> | scientes: what do you mean by staying in git? does git diff differently from diffutils? |
| 21:13 | <scientes> | chealer, well if you export a diff then that diff might be ugly and verbose, but if you do a git pull, git is very efficient |
| 21:14 | <scientes> | even though the effect is the same |
| 21:14 | <chealer> | scientes: I am not trying to export differences. I just want to visualize differences. |
| 21:14 | <scientes> | also, just FYI to lossly export from git you have to use git format-patch, and then apply with git am |
| 21:15 | <scientes> | well, then i think hd + diff would be just fine |
| 21:15 | <scientes> | cause it wont show stuff which stayed the same |
| 21:16 | <chealer> | scientes: well, again, in the example I gave, it would surely not display that fine, since each version is output in chunks. there's one line by chunk |
| 21:17 | <chealer> | unless there are options to modify the output |
| 21:17 | <scientes> | man hd |
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| 21:19 | <chealer> | sney: actually, I'm trying to figure out why at least Iceweasel, Chromium, Konqueror and wget would mangle a file... unless it's Apache's fault, which seems more likely :-| |
| 21:19 | <scientes> | yeah more likely the latter |
| 21:20 | <scientes> | escaping done for security can cause problems |
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| 21:22 | <chealer> | scientes: it's an optimization issue here. the "mangling" in question is gzipping a (already gzipped) text file |
| 21:23 | <scientes> | well thats a bug |
| 21:23 | <scientes> | if it doens't produce the same output when nested compression |
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| 21:24 | <abrotman> | you're still on that? |
| 21:25 | <chealer> | scientes: if I request a txt.gz file from Apache, I get it gzipped (a second time). in certain conditions (involving mod_deflate) |
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| 21:25 | <scientes> | well that doesn't matter, the bug is if the results are anything differn't with or without compression |
| 21:25 | <scientes> | and compression is not support to cause problems, it can in some cases slightly increase the size (which is not a bug) |
| 21:25 | <scientes> | but having the output differn't IS a bug |
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| 21:27 | <chealer> | there is a bug somewhere for sure, indeed, I'm still trying to determine if it's the server or the client, but it's most likely Apache |
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| 21:28 | <scientes> | but this hackery you are talking about with diff is nonsense, you should be using wireshark |
| 21:28 | <chealer> | scientes: I am, but it's sniffing binary data |
| 21:29 | <scientes> | ahh now i gotcha |
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| 22:18 | <krypton> | I got a question I am new to linux want to get one but I am torn between opensure and mint |
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| 22:21 | <krypton> | thats odd cause I am on a mint cd not debian I tryed debian but the trouble to just get it install is not worth it |
| 22:22 | <sney> | you should try learning how to use irc, it will make getting help a lot easier |
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| 22:22 | <krypton> | like I said I am "new to linux" but thanks for your help |
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| 22:23 | <krypton> | not i got 2 reason to avoid debian and give my donation to either mint or opensure |
| 22:23 | <sney> | ? |
| 22:24 | <sney> | it was just a suggestion. |
| 22:24 | <krypton> | you guy are rude |
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| 22:25 | <cthuluh> | *sigh* |
| 22:25 | <sney> | krypton, knowing how to use IRC has nothing to do with being a linux guru, it's just a useful part of navigating the internet. http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html |
| 22:25 | <sney> | krypton, also, if you're looking for mint help you can right-click this and choose connect: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help |
| 22:26 | <krypton> | Knowing how to have manners has nothing to do with money but how your were raised |
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| 22:27 | <sney> | what's money got to do with anything? |
| 22:27 | * | sney scratches head |
| 22:27 | <krypton> | I knew i was in the wrong chat few people and rude instead of helpful like the ones in opensure |
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| 22:27 | <krypton> | or mint |
| 22:28 | <robbiethe1st> | So, ask in those channels? |
| 22:28 | <robbiethe1st> | I mean, not to be rude or anything, but... |
| 22:28 | <krypton> | no wonder everyone told me to not bother with debian |
| 22:28 | <robbiethe1st> | Debian is, well, not a newb-friendly distro |
| 22:28 | <krypton> | nor are you |
| 22:28 | <robbiethe1st> | I started with Ubuntu. Debian takes a /lot/ of terminal commands to make work. |
| 22:28 | <krypton> | at least the other chat are nice |
| 22:29 | <heikkila> | well, go to those chats then |
| 22:29 | <sney> | krypton, really, you are not going to goad people into a fight here, if you are done asking any relevant questions, please be respectful of our rules and leave |
| 22:29 | <robbiethe1st> | Until you have a few months of another distro under your belt, well, I'd suggest not messing with it unless you have a lot of spare time and patience. |
| 22:29 | <krypton> | i will |
| 22:30 | <krypton> | no i will never mess with it not after this chat nor will i donate to it either |
| 22:30 | <robbiethe1st> | ...That all being said, there's a reason someone somewhat experienced like me uses Debian and sticks with it - Rolling Updates. Testing/unstable software, and a system that works great once it's figured out. |
| 22:30 | <robbiethe1st> | ...Donate? Why would you donate? |
| 22:30 | <sney> | again with the money thing. |
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| 22:31 | <krypton> | the other chat told me there is not help in debian they are all snobs and its just not worth it because once they get the software out it already old and outdated |
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| 22:32 | <sney> | oh, this old chestnut. krypton, if you are done, please go |
| 22:32 | <krypton> | i will trust once i figure how |
| 22:32 | <robbiethe1st> | Debian stable is exactly that - old and stable. It's for /servers/, not desktops. |
| 22:32 | <cthuluh> | robbiethe1st: wrong |
| 22:32 | <robbiethe1st> | [19:25:59] <sney> krypton, also, if you're looking for mint help you can right-click this and choose connect: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help |
| 22:33 | <sney> | robbiethe1st, he came here to start a fight, I wouldn't bother |
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| 22:33 | <bones_was_here> | the donation thing is an attention getting device used by noob trolls in free software channels :( |
| 22:33 | <robbiethe1st> | That's... likely true. |
| 22:33 | <abrotman> | hi, #debian here ... |
| 22:33 | <bones_was_here> | OMG I WONT DONATE UNLESS (over 9000 conditions) |
| 22:33 | <krypton> | I didnt came to fight I came and ask a question and you all became dicks |
| 22:33 | <sney> | abrotman, yes, it's time for the ban hammer if you would be so kind |
| 22:33 | <robbiethe1st> | I don't see why it's needed. Want to do good? Donate time. Help others. Code something yourself. |
| 22:34 | <sney> | krypton, he who expects a dick sees phallae everywhere. |
| 22:34 | <abrotman> | i can't tell who to kick first :/ |
| 22:34 | <robbiethe1st> | Sney, that probably went right over his head... |
| 22:35 | <krypton> | all i did ask about opensure and mint both who are number 1 and 3 all you could have said you are in the wrong chat not come across and snobs and dicks |
| 22:35 | <abrotman> | krypton: do you have a Debian question? |
| 22:35 | <robbiethe1st> | krypton, they /did/. |
| 22:36 | <abrotman> | krypton: if you don't have a question relating to getting help with Debian, please move along, thank you |
| 22:36 | <krypton> | no thank you i fo not and do not care for it after checking the kind of community i will be getting into mint people are nicer so are opensure people but ubuntu are the most helpful |
| 22:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 22:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [+q *!*@71-219-53-135.slkc.qwest.net] by abrotman |
| 22:36 | <cthuluh> | bye bye :) |
| 22:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 22:37 | <abrotman> | krypton: thank you, hvae a nice day. This channel is for Debian support, not ranting |
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| 22:37 | <abrotman> | krypton: take a time out, come back when you can be more constructive |
| 22:39 | <abrotman> | and for the rest of you, try not to take the bait of every troll :) |
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| 22:42 | <abrotman> | okay .. nevermind |
| 22:42 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 22:42 | -!- | krypton was kicked from #debian by abrotman [you should know better] |
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| 22:46 | <jrib> | I'll have to try opensure sometime |
| 22:46 | <abrotman> | move on, please |
| 22:46 | <sney> | hahaha shhhh |
| 22:46 | <jrib> | sorry (it's quiet in here) |
| 22:46 | * | abrotman points at the BTS :) |
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| 22:53 | <abrotman> | or chit chat in #debian-offtopic, more than welcome to join that party! |
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| 23:08 | <Alison_Chaiken> | The following is NOT a joke. |
| 23:09 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Executables are disappearing from two of my Wheezy system from /bin. |
| 23:09 | <Alison_Chaiken> | The systems are fully updated. The disks are not full. |
| 23:09 | <Alison_Chaiken> | A reboot did not solve the problem with the laptop. |
| 23:10 | <Alison_Chaiken> | "which cd" returns nothing now on either system. |
| 23:10 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Since /bin is not a directory I backup, I'm not actually sure what to do. |
| 23:10 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Nor do I have a clue what's going on. |
| 23:11 | <Alison_Chaiken> | On my laptop, /bin/rm and /bin/ls were also missing. |
| 23:11 | <Alison_Chaiken> | I scp'ed them from the other host. |
| 23:11 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Nor neither host has /bin/cd. |
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| 23:12 | <robbiethe1st> | That's odd. Have you mounted one of the drives on a completely seperate system, and seen if the files actually exist? |
| 23:12 | <robbiethe1st> | Also, run fsck? |
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| 23:22 | <sney> | Alison_Chaiken, what's your root filesystem? also, does anyone else have direct hardware access to these machines? |
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| 23:33 | <Alison_Chaiken> | sney, no one else has local or remote access to these machines that I know of. |
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| 23:33 | <Alison_Chaiken> | My rootfs is ext4 default -- nothing custom about filesystems. |
| 23:34 | <sney> | ok, so /bin/cd is not something that exists on wheezy. it's just a shell function. |
| 23:34 | <sney> | however, ls and rm being gone is pretty weird. |
| 23:35 | <sney> | is this just straight wheezy or are you mixing anything from sid or experimental (or any 3rd party repos)? |
| 23:35 | <Alison_Chaiken> | They're still here on this desktop. |
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| 23:35 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Oddly, after I suid, I have cd. |
| 23:35 | <sney> | you have it as in it works? does that mean it does something else as your regular user? |
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| 23:37 | <Alison_Chaiken> | sney, cd works when I suid. I thought cd was /bin/cd? So there's something odd with bash if cd is a shell built-in. |
| 23:37 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Hmm, wonder if last update refreshed bash . . . |
| 23:37 | <sney> | odd perhaps but it's normal at least for wheezy. |
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| 23:38 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Nope, bash refreshed on 3/30. |
| 23:39 | <sney> | nothing in the changelog about cd either. it's probably an old change. STILL, missing ls and rm are weird, since those are definitely not shell builtins and coreutils hasn't been touched since february |
| 23:40 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Here, so if they're all in coreutils, if I forcibly reinstall it, perhaps whatever's broken will be fixed. |
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| 23:41 | <sney> | yeah, maybe. and run debsums while you're at it to see if anything else went funky that you haven't discovered yet. |
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| 23:51 | <Alison_Chaiken> | I ran debsums. Nothing terribly suspicious. binutils had bad md5sum and has /bin/ls and /bin/rm though. |
| 23:53 | <Alison_Chaiken> | A bash macro I have in .bashrc works for my user account. So something funny is going on with bash. |
| 23:54 | <Alison_Chaiken> | I didn't change .bashrc though. |
| 23:54 | <Alison_Chaiken> | I bet that by coincidence I removed /bin/rm and /bin/ls in a fit of stupidity, as I was sudo rm'ing some stuff at the time. |
| 23:55 | <Alison_Chaiken> | And then when the 3rd file (/bin/cd I assumed) was missing, I got *really* worried. |
| 23:55 | <Alison_Chaiken> | As long as the problem is something bashy and not an extremely bad update, I can at least be calm! |
| 23:55 | <Alison_Chaiken> | Thanks sney. |
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