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| 00:04 | <flynn_> | I don't know how to tell if it's my wireless card, router, or network manager? |
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| 00:11 | <streuner_> | moin |
| 00:11 | <vook> | flynn_: caps lock flashing signifies kernel panic. Have you checked logs ? Enabled kdump ? |
| 00:12 | <flynn_> | Don't know about any of that. |
| 00:12 | <flynn_> | Why is the kernel panicking? Is this a bad kernel neighborhood? |
| 00:12 | <vook> | flynn_: next time it happens, take not of the time. Once you get it to boot up again, browse through the file /var/log/messages, looking for the time/date when it occurred. |
| 00:13 | <vook> | You probably have some flakey hardware. |
| 00:13 | <vook> | not/note |
| 00:13 | <flynn_> | would a flakey wireless card do it? |
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| 00:14 | <vook> | better yet, browse through /var/log/messages any time you have a chance - you can find out all kinds of interesting stuff. |
| 00:14 | <vook> | just about any device could do it. |
| 00:16 | <flynn_> | Can't open that file. |
| 00:16 | <flynn_> | Do you have to be root? |
| 00:16 | <vook> | you need to be root, yep |
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| 00:17 | <vook> | It's a messy file if you aren't sure how to parse through what is just gibberish and what is important. |
| 00:18 | <vook> | there are some log viewer programs out there that make the file easier to read. |
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| 00:42 | <IngCr3at1on> | so I'm thinking of switching from ubuntu over to straight debian (tired of the extra junk I don't need) but I think I'm one of the few people who actually likes gnome3; I'm curious just how "unstable" the gnome3 repos are in wheezy |
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| 00:47 | <IngCr3at1on> | hmm, I thought I wanted to switch to debian at least; not sure, the user support seems wonderful (incidentally IRC needs sarcasm enclosures) |
| 00:50 | <retrospectacus> | the user support is great, actually... that's not a support question |
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| 00:50 | <malexp> | maybe i was too used to gnome2 |
| 00:51 | <malexp> | and i miss so much the old network manager ;) |
| 00:52 | <IngCr3at1on> | I suppose it's not directly 'support' but it's very much a user related question |
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| 00:52 | <IngCr3at1on> | honestly I've never really been big on any UI lol |
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| 01:09 | <IngCr3at1on> | well, thanks again this has been... enlightening |
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| 02:23 | <Shedding> | hi guys |
| 02:23 | <Shedding> | anyone around? |
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| 02:24 | <Dr_O_> | IngCr3at1on: Wheezy has now frozen, so it is not in too bad shape and will stabalize to a "stable release" over the next 3 to 6 months (timeline is my guess). |
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| 02:24 | <Shedding> | I am having some trouble.. and I've tried reading numerous posts before coming here |
| 02:24 | * | Dr_O_ notices IngCr3at1on is no longer here! |
| 02:25 | <Shedding> | doh |
| 02:25 | <Dr_O_> | !topic |
| 02:25 | <Shedding> | looking at toping |
| 02:25 | <Shedding> | topic |
| 02:25 | <Shedding> | I mean |
| 02:26 | <jm_> | !ask |
| 02:26 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 02:26 | <Shedding> | ohh |
| 02:26 | <Dr_O_> | my bad... I thought the topic said "just ask.. don't ask to ask"... so go on! |
| 02:26 | <Shedding> | I have an old computer with debian on it. I want to extract data from it - however, when I use ntfs it only allows read only |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | I tried ntfs-3g |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | but the package is not installed |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | I tried apt-get install ntfs-3g |
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| 02:27 | <Shedding> | and it looks like lenny can't find it |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | I tried changing the source.list |
| 02:27 | <Dr_O_> | ok... so what are you copying onto? |
| 02:27 | <ompaul> | Shedding: eh, to extract data all you need to do is write |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | and I get a "couldn't find package ntfs-3g" |
| 02:27 | <Dr_O_> | doe the computer in question have a network? |
| 02:27 | <jm_> | please don't use enter key so often |
| 02:27 | <ompaul> | Shedding: eh, to extract data all you need to do is read actually |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | an external hard drive |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | yes it does |
| 02:27 | <Shedding> | dhcp |
| 02:28 | <Shedding> | I can ping the internet |
| 02:28 | <ompaul> | !enter |
| 02:28 | <dpkg> | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 02:28 | <Shedding> | well, no I mean |
| 02:28 | <Shedding> | I need to extract data from the linux machine to the ntfs hard drive |
| 02:28 | <Dr_O_> | Well in essance you cannot! |
| 02:28 | <Shedding> | sorry about that. |
| 02:28 | <ompaul> | Shedding: you are heading to being ignored, that's a windows problem install pscp.exe on the windows box |
| 02:29 | <jpinx> | Shedding: the linux machine will need ntfs-3g installed |
| 02:29 | <Shedding> | yes. I am trying to install the ntfs-3g packages. But it cannot find them. |
| 02:29 | <ompaul> | just do the simple thing - tar the data on the linux box - and use pscp to copy it to the linux box |
| 02:29 | <Dr_O_> | does lenny have ntfs-3g?? |
| 02:29 | <ompaul> | s/linux/windows |
| 02:29 | <jpinx> | Shedding: then you can sshfs or rsync from linux to wondows |
| 02:29 | <jm_> | Shedding: what's in your sources.list for lenny? "/msg dpkg paste" if you need to paste several lines |
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| 02:30 | <ompaul> | jpinx: it can be done from windows with less effort |
| 02:30 | <jpinx> | ompaul: probably - but this s the linux way ;) |
| 02:30 | <Dr_O_> | Shedding: Do you have another computer on the network? |
| 02:30 | <Shedding> | I also have a NAS which I can ping |
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| 02:31 | <Shedding> | I tried mounting the ip with cifs. but it did not work |
| 02:31 | <Dr_O_> | Ah... well you want to copy from the debian machine to the network NAS |
| 02:31 | <Shedding> | yes dr.0 |
| 02:31 | <Shedding> | either that, or copy the data to an external hard drive. |
| 02:31 | <Shedding> | This machine is really old and the raid is failing. There is a lot of data needed, b ut the data can no longer be accessed through smb |
| 02:32 | <Shedding> | It used to be a network file server |
| 02:32 | <ompaul> | Shedding: this problem was solved by my clue, I'll say it again, 1) install pscp.exe on the windows machine 2) copy the data - if there is a lot of it use tar to tar the data 3) take the time saved to upgrade lenny to squeeze and then deal with other issues |
| 02:32 | <Shedding> | ok ompaul. Let me do a search online on what pscp is. |
| 02:32 | <ompaul> | Shedding: it is what you want |
| 02:33 | <Shedding> | ohhh it is an ftp client |
| 02:33 | <ompaul> | secure client |
| 02:33 | <Dr_O_> | Shedding: search for putty, pscp is part of the putty suite of progs |
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| 02:33 | <jm_> | or use rsync for windows |
| 02:33 | <Shedding> | Got it. I don't know why I didn't think of that |
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| 02:34 | <ompaul> | rsync for windows is a bad idea - rsync on cygwin is a great idea |
| 02:34 | <Shedding> | the nas has an ftp server available |
| 02:34 | <Shedding> | I can just ftp to the nas |
| 02:34 | <Dr_O_> | When you have a network external hard drives and usb sticks and floppyies and cd's etc become a thing of the past! |
| 02:34 | <jm_> | I love such unqualified comments |
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| 02:34 | <Dr_O_> | well lenny has lots of ftp progs available |
| 02:35 | <ompaul> | because (and I'm way offtopic here) the considerations to the windows file system makes for a more awkward command line for the rsync for windows |
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| 02:40 | <Shedding> | got it |
| 02:40 | <Shedding> | I can transfer stuff. One thing though, is there a way to use wildcards with "put" |
| 02:41 | <Shedding> | to drop the entire directory? |
| 02:41 | <Shedding> | including directories |
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| 02:42 | <jm_> | Shedding: use a decent ftp client that can do it, i.e. lftp has mirror command |
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| 02:42 | <nevyn> | mput/mget or ncftp |
| 02:42 | <Shedding> | doing it from the debian machine |
| 02:42 | <Shedding> | using plain ole ftp |
| 02:42 | <jm_> | good luck with that |
| 02:43 | <Shedding> | I tried mput. But it doesn't seem to copy folders within folders |
| 02:43 | <Shedding> | :( jm |
| 02:43 | <Shedding> | I can't even run xwindows on this thing |
| 02:43 | <Shedding> | it would make my job a bit easier |
| 02:43 | <nevyn> | how do you figgure? |
| 02:43 | <ompaul> | tar cvf WhatIWantToCopy.tar /path/to/data |
| 02:43 | <ompaul> | ftp put 1 file |
| 02:44 | <Shedding> | ompaul: I would do that, but we are talking 80+ gigs |
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| 02:44 | <nevyn> | so? |
| 02:44 | <ompaul> | make 40 2 gig files |
| 02:44 | <Shedding> | the drives are degraded |
| 02:44 | <Shedding> | so even if I do that. I am not sure how the files will be set on these drives (Which are failing) |
| 02:44 | <jm_> | Shedding: why don't you install lftp/ncftp then? |
| 02:44 | <ompaul> | Shedding: scp -R will copy what it can rsync will start where it finished |
| 02:45 | <ompaul> | psftp.exe |
| 02:45 | <Shedding> | I am ok with linux, just not greate. |
| 02:45 | <Shedding> | I am doing everything from the debian machine. |
| 02:45 | <ompaul> | Shedding: you really have sat there spouting all sorts of reasons why this is complex, and you have been handed solutions 1 at a time |
| 02:45 | <Shedding> | great I mean |
| 02:46 | <Dr_O_> | Shedding: lftp or ncftp is the way to go with the ftp method. Install either of these and read the man pages... or install pscp on your wondows machien and pull the data off |
| 02:46 | <Shedding> | dr_o: will do. |
| 02:46 | <ompaul> | psftp offering interaction compression and ftp commands |
| 02:46 | <nevyn> | tar cvf - directories|ssh remotehost cd targetdir && tar xf - |
| 02:46 | <Shedding> | is it possible to do a apt-get install? |
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| 02:46 | <jm_> | sure is with correct sources.list |
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| 02:46 | <Dr_O_> | <nevyn>: only one linux machine involved |
| 02:46 | <Shedding> | yeah.. I think I might have the correct source list |
| 02:46 | <Shedding> | archive.debian.com |
| 02:47 | <jm_> | .org |
| 02:47 | <Shedding> | ohh |
| 02:47 | <Shedding> | brb.. let me check |
| 02:47 | <ompaul> | Shedding: no unless you are comfortable with editing your /etc/apt/sources.list as lenny is EOL i.e. support life is over and note that url |
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| 02:48 | <Shedding> | yes. I am using pico to edit it ompaul. As I cannot remember for the life of me all the vi commands |
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| 02:49 | * | Dr_O_ likes pico and nano but does not want to start an editor war ;-) |
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| 02:49 | <jm_> | perhaps playing that vim adventure game would help :P |
| 02:49 | <ompaul> | !editor war |
| 02:49 | <dpkg> | well, editor war is when people start talking all sorts of emotional bullshit while trying to prove superiority of the editor of their choice |
| 02:49 | <Shedding> | I got a better idea |
| 02:49 | <ompaul> | emacs is a great o/s - if only it had an editor |
| 02:50 | * | Dr_O_ chuckles! |
| 02:50 | <Shedding> | just downloaded ncftp from windows, set it on my nas, and now I am going to downloaded it to the debian box using ftp |
| 02:50 | <Shedding> | done |
| 02:50 | <Shedding> | emacs :) |
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| 02:55 | <Shedding> | ok. I've got it, it is untarred. I have a few files in there. Now here might be a stupid question. how do I install the .pl file? |
| 02:56 | <xiewanchen> | jj |
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| 02:56 | <Shedding> | Just "jj install.pl"? |
| 02:57 | <xiewanchen> | I am sorry to spell the wrong wold |
| 02:57 | <xiewanchen> | word |
| 02:57 | <jm_> | you untarred what? |
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| 02:58 | <Shedding> | the file came as this ncftpd-2.8.7-linux-x86-export.tar.gz |
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| 02:58 | <Shedding> | so I had to extract it. Right? |
| 02:58 | <Shedding> | tar -xvf |
| 02:59 | <jm_> | first of all, that's ncftpd (so ftp server), not ncftp, and second, use a debian package |
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| 03:00 | <Shedding> | man.. I feel stupider by the second |
| 03:00 | <Shedding> | thanks for the help jm |
| 03:00 | <Shedding> | I can use dpkg if I get a debian package |
| 03:01 | <jm_> | http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ncftp/ |
| 03:01 | <jm_> | you jsut need to tfind the right version |
| 03:01 | <jm_> | seems to be: Version: 2:3.2.1-1 |
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| 03:02 | <Shedding> | i386 should work right? |
| 03:02 | <jm_> | run this to find out: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 03:02 | <Shedding> | ok |
| 03:02 | <pparadis> | i missed it in the scrollback, why the particular version instead of just apt-get install ncftp ? |
| 03:02 | <jm_> | lenny |
| 03:02 | <pparadis> | oh my |
| 03:02 | <jm_> | :) |
| 03:02 | <Shedding> | amd64 |
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| 03:03 | <pparadis> | has the usual commentary i.e. "please upgrade to squeeze, you have no security updates, etc" already been made? :) |
| 03:03 | <pparadis> | if so i won't bother with it. |
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| 03:03 | <Shedding> | it is an old server with an old decaying raid pparadis |
| 03:03 | <pparadis> | nod |
| 03:04 | <ompaul> | pparadis: I gave a solution which allowed for that however given the incessant noise I put it on the ignore list cos this problem was solved a long time ago |
| 03:04 | <Shedding> | this thing is on it's last leg. Trying to get the info before it dies |
| 03:04 | <pparadis> | ompaul: nod as well, i'll let it roll |
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| 03:05 | <Shedding> | you guys are awesome. This would be extremely tough without your help |
| 03:05 | <jpinx> | Shedding: if you're only trying to save some data and not the system itself, just tarball the data and scp it over |
| 03:05 | <ompaul> | in my pre 8am mode I have low tolerance, it takes a while for me to not be annoyed |
| 03:05 | <Shedding> | I think that is what paul was telling me :) |
| 03:06 | <ompaul> | jpinx: wait for it - oh my raid it hurts *cry* *cry* he won't use pscp to drag it onto the windows box - if the raid is really failing then time is of the essence but I think a reformatting might be in order |
| 03:06 | <Shedding> | but as before, if I tar the data, I am not sure if the hard drives are going to write it properly. |
| 03:06 | <Shedding> | :) |
| 03:06 | <Shedding> | he beat me to it |
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| 03:07 | <pparadis> | Shedding: that's not a problem if you're piping the tarball over your network to another machine. |
| 03:07 | <pparadis> | gah, i said i wouldn't go there. imma just shut up. :) |
| 03:07 | <jpinx> | hehe |
| 03:07 | <ompaul> | pparadis: oh shut up :P |
| 03:07 | * | ompaul hides |
| 03:07 | <pparadis> | <3 |
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| 03:08 | <Shedding> | :) |
| 03:08 | <Shedding> | brb.. bathroom |
| 03:10 | <ompaul> | why is the raid taking a dump of the fs? |
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| 03:11 | <fresh-nes> | hi, I don't succeed to build the kernel 3.4 with my .conf file done thanks to xconfig. The problem is : "implicit declaration of function ‘irq_to_gpio’"... Could you help me please |
| 03:11 | <ompaul> | btw I was told elsewhere what was happening - I really do have him on ignore |
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| 03:12 | <ompaul> | !xy problem |
| 03:12 | <dpkg> | [xyproblem] People often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem or http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollard/FGA/put-down-the-chocolate-covered-banana.html |
| 03:13 | <jm_> | fresh-nes: you really shouldn't be building your own kernels if you can't sort that out |
| 03:13 | <pparadis> | ompaul: that factoid needs a little help; the second link is now this --> http://www.tesco.net/images/tesconet-middle.png |
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| 03:14 | <ompaul> | pparadis: tbh I don't get it's relevance but the first link is good |
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| 03:14 | <pparadis> | indeed it is |
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| 03:15 | <jm_> | http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/put-down-the-chocolate-covered-banana.html |
| 03:16 | <ompaul> | jm_: thanks |
| 03:16 | <ompaul> | Shedding: ^^ |
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| 03:17 | <fresh-nes> | jm_ : I really want to ! My .config file works well for the kernel 3.3 on my pandaboard, however I've this probleme when I use it for the kernel 3.4 |
| 03:17 | <ompaul> | jm_: it is so altered :) |
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| 03:21 | <Shedding> | back |
| 03:21 | <pparadis> | Shedding: everything come out okay? |
| 03:21 | <Shedding> | so far so good ;) |
| 03:21 | <Shedding> | fiberone and activia you know |
| 03:21 | <ompaul> | !TMI |
| 03:21 | <dpkg> | somebody said tmi was too much information, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island |
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| 03:22 | <rainfyre> | heh |
| 03:22 | <ompaul> | now - Shedding read the back scroll since you were gone in particular the xy problem |
| 03:22 | * | ompaul unignored him |
| 03:22 | <ompaul> | you have sufficient information - act on it now before the raid goes and you have no data |
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| 03:23 | <Shedding> | ompaul: absolutely true. There is also one other reason I didn't do the other |
| 03:23 | <ompaul> | Shedding: you are heading to being ignored, that's a windows problem install pscp.exe on the windows box |
| 03:23 | <ompaul> | was 1 hour ago |
| 03:23 | <ompaul> | so you have been faffing on here with lots of codswallop for no good reason |
| 03:23 | <Shedding> | ompaul: don't want do be ignored.. I just didn't want to be seen as a complete idiot |
| 03:24 | <Shedding> | and using the pscp option would've most likely made me seem like an idiot on top of that, trying to figure out how to get it done |
| 03:25 | <jpinx> | too late,,,,,,, |
| 03:25 | <Shedding> | probably |
| 03:25 | <pparadis> | not knowing things is totally okay. sometimes it's good to just state what your original dilemma is in simple terms and ask others for suggestions starting from there. |
| 03:25 | <ompaul> | make a folder on your windows desktop called my-linux save pscp.exe to the desktop then run cmd and the following |
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| 03:25 | <Shedding> | thank you ompaul (doing it as we speak) |
| 03:26 | <ompaul> | pscp -R user@other-ipL/path/to/data/* my-linux |
| 03:26 | <ompaul> | Shedding: ask two lines not an hour of rubbish |
| 03:26 | <ompaul> | be explicit in your aim, don't try to solve it - let those around you solve it or else don't ask |
| 03:27 | <Shedding> | the "user@other-ip/path" what path do I point that too? |
| 03:27 | <ompaul> | and it is :/ |
| 03:27 | <ompaul> | that is where your data is on your linux box |
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| 03:28 | <ompaul> | so if your name was fred and you were username fred and you wanted the home directory |
| 03:28 | <Shedding> | ok.. give me a second. Downloading pscp |
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| 03:29 | <ompaul> | pscp -R fred@192.whatever: note the full colon if it is not the home directory type the path in there |
| 03:29 | <ompaul> | full colon, is always needed |
| 03:29 | <ompaul> | and as I said this is a ##windows issue - we are way offtopic here |
| 03:30 | <ompaul> | now you have sufficient information, if you can't work it out you need to use google for examples in using pscp |
| 03:30 | <pparadis> | ompaul: now that's just not true. there are engineering solutions to that problem --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostomy_pouching_system |
| 03:30 | * | pparadis runs like hell |
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| 03:31 | <ompaul> | pparadis: just as well I'm a big fat * or I'll catch you |
| 03:31 | * | jpinx trips pparadis |
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| 03:31 | * | ompaul falls on pparadis and squishes him |
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| 03:32 | <jpinx> | pparadis: /nick pp.....is |
| 03:32 | <Shedding> | this is what I am trying |
| 03:33 | <Shedding> | pscp -r root@192.168.1.186:/data |
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| 03:33 | <Shedding> | the folder is called data |
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| 03:33 | <ompaul> | -R |
| 03:33 | <ompaul> | and where's your target |
| 03:34 | <ompaul> | my-linux/ |
| 03:34 | <ompaul> | my-linux/. |
| 03:34 | <Shedding> | it won't allow R |
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| 03:34 | <Shedding> | only -r |
| 03:34 | <ompaul> | pscp -r root@192.168.1.186:/data/* my-linux/. |
| 03:34 | <Shedding> | HOLYT SHIT! |
| 03:34 | <Shedding> | it is doing it |
| 03:34 | <rainfyre> | faffing and codswallop. I need a translation. |
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| 03:34 | <ompaul> | rainfyre: no you don't |
| 03:34 | <rainfyre> | ompaul: heh :p |
| 03:35 | <Shedding> | OMG |
| 03:35 | <ompaul> | Shedding: shut up already |
| 03:35 | <Shedding> | You are the man.. |
| 03:35 | <ompaul> | pparadis: you doo |
| 03:35 | <ompaul> | pparadis: you too |
| 03:35 | <Shedding> | you don't know how hard I am laughing |
| 03:35 | <rainfyre> | Shedding: I just come in here to watch him .. |
| 03:35 | <pparadis> | ompaul: i'm still busy running like hell. |
| 03:36 | <ompaul> | what kind of IRC is this - give someone a How to at 7:28am they do it at 8:35 |
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| 03:36 | <ompaul> | hehe |
| 03:36 | <rainfyre> | internet delay chat |
| 03:36 | <ompaul> | rainfyre: +42 |
| 03:36 | <ompaul> | or maybe 63 |
| 03:36 | <rainfyre> | ompaul: that's the answer! |
| 03:36 | <ompaul> | now what was the question again? |
| 03:36 | <Shedding> | damn man.. I need to apologize |
| 03:36 | <rainfyre> | 67 .. |
| 03:37 | <Shedding> | I've been humbled. |
| 03:37 | <ompaul> | Shedding: best thing you can do now ... is ssssshhhhhhhhhhh |
| 03:37 | <Shedding> | ok |
| 03:37 | <rainfyre> | :) |
| 03:37 | <ompaul> | let's do the timewarp again |
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| 03:44 | <rainfyre> | good movie. |
| 03:44 | <rainfyre> | bedtime here, catch you all later - |
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| 04:10 | <Lantizia> | Lo, how/where does debian rotate logs? |
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| 04:12 | <@Ganneff> | etc/logrotate.d/* |
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| 04:14 | <jm_> | and cron jobs |
| 04:14 | <ompaul> | mostly cron jobs |
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| 04:18 | <Lantizia> | found it - thanks |
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| 04:46 | <Shedding> | again.. thank you ompaul. The transfer is going great. At this rate, I should have everything in about 4-8 hours |
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| 04:49 | <ompaul> | once was en oeuf |
| 04:50 | * | ompaul shouts "quitter" |
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| 04:58 | <bonno> | i need help on xubuntu what do i do? what channel/server do i join..i am niwbe on IRC |
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| 04:59 | <bonno> | i dont find ubuntu chat anywhere.. |
| 04:59 | <ompaul> | !ubuntuirc |
| 04:59 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 04:59 | <ompaul> | bonno: and most likely you want #xubuntu on that server |
| 04:59 | <bonno> | thanks :) |
| 04:59 | <bonno> | the server is freenode right? |
| 05:00 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 522] by debhelper |
| 05:00 | <ompaul> | yes |
| 05:00 | <ompaul> | this is oftc |
| 05:00 | <ompaul> | or debian |
| 05:01 | <ompaul> | alias smith and jones --- they always work with aliases |
| 05:01 | <bonno> | oftc? what is that? |
| 05:01 | <ompaul> | here |
| 05:01 | <ompaul> | !oftc |
| 05:01 | <dpkg> | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
| 05:01 | <bonno> | anyway :p thanks |
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| 05:08 | <AlexLikeRock> | hoa gente :) |
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| 05:08 | <Calinou> | !insertnameofunknownlanguageherebecausesomeonelikessayinghelloinforeignlanguages |
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| 05:10 | * | ompaul is not dpkg and replys with a If you don't wanna communicate don't then ;-) |
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| 05:13 | <AlexLikeRock> | i wil bak on my new debian intallation ;-) |
| 05:13 | <AlexLikeRock> | bye |
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| 05:20 | <gnurbs> | hi all |
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| 05:23 | <gnurbs> | I have a thinkpad X60. It does not power off or reset after shutdown. anyone got any ideas on how to fix this? it's really annoying :( |
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| 05:25 | <gnurbs> | also, that bug does _only_ appear in debian (also in debian based linux-mint), not p.ex. in ubuntu and fedora |
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| 05:25 | <gnurbs> | and also, when still in ramdisk, it properly reboots |
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| 05:25 | <gnurbs> | standbye and hibernate do work properly |
| 05:26 | <SynrG> | an acpi problem, i guess |
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| 05:30 | <SynrG> | maybe relates to the kernel version? i assume you have acpi-support installed. |
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| 05:32 | <SynrG> | though acpi-support would only be relevant if the shutdown event firing were not handled properly, and it sounds like you're saying it does a shutdown, just doesn't poewr off at the end |
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| 05:34 | <SynrG> | gnurbs: could try a kernel backport if you think it's a kernel issue |
| 05:34 | <SynrG> | !bpo |
| 05:34 | <dpkg> | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
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| 05:34 | <gnurbs> | exactly, it shuts down but does not power off |
| 05:35 | <gnurbs> | i have testing running, so it's 3.2.something |
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| 05:35 | <gnurbs> | actually it worked out fine until not so long ago, I have that laptop for around 2.5 years now |
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| 05:36 | <gnurbs> | uname -a : Linux jira 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 |
| 05:36 | <gnurbs> | ubuntu with a 3.2 kernel does fine... |
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| 05:52 | <nocturnal> | http://serverfault.com/questions/406301/ldaperr-dsid-0c0903aa-data-52e-authenticating-against-ad-08-with-pam-ldap just throwing this out here in case anyone has gotten pam_ldap working with AD '08. |
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| 06:04 | <grandie> | i have installed lxde and xfce on the same system, however xdm does not give me a chance to switch between the two, what am i doing wrong? |
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| 06:11 | <Calinou> | grandie, no option when logging in? |
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| 06:16 | <grandie> | Calinou: that is correct and on leaving lxde i get sent to a new login screen, i can't shutdown or restart my system |
| 06:17 | <Calinou> | don't know what's happening |
| 06:18 | <grandie> | thanks anyway! |
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| 06:20 | <xylon> | hi |
| 06:21 | <xylon> | is there a rm with recycling bin support? |
| 06:21 | <xylon> | since gnu rm doesn't |
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| 06:23 | <rham> | I've created a script in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom |
| 06:24 | <rham> | but for some reason the script is getting executed when I run "update-initramfs -u" |
| 06:24 | <rham> | which is extremely odd |
| 06:25 | <rham> | the initramfs-tools(8) man page says that files in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom will be copied to the initramfs image and executed at boot time |
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| 06:27 | <Calinou> | xylon, you could move the files to trash using "mv" command ;) |
| 06:27 | <Calinou> | or use a script |
| 06:28 | <rham> | this surely shouldn't be happening? |
| 06:28 | <jm_> | xylon: safe-rm - wrapper around the rm command to prevent accidental deletions |
| 06:28 | <xylon> | rham, maybe you can find out who wrote initramfs-tools and ask them |
| 06:29 | <rham> | xylon: maybe I can do that |
| 06:29 | <rham> | xylon: maybe I can ask people in this IRC channel as well, which is populated by people who presumably know a reasonable amount about debian :-) |
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| 06:30 | <xylon> | jm_ that's interresting |
| 06:31 | <Calinou> | s/reasonable/a lot, and you look like a noob when asking questions |
| 06:32 | <jm_> | xylon: better yet, libtrash - A trash can library to use with LD_PRELOAD |
| 06:32 | <rham> | Calinou: is that bad? |
| 06:32 | <Calinou> | no :) |
| 06:33 | <rham> | so, this surely should not be happening? |
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| 06:33 | <Calinou> | wasn't talking to you |
| 06:33 | <Calinou> | about "looking like a noob" |
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| 06:33 | <Calinou> | I have no idea; I'm no linux expert :P |
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| 06:35 | <xylon> | jm_ ah now that looks like it! |
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| 07:15 | <psicobra> | hi all this is my first time using debian |
| 07:16 | <psicobra> | tried lots of flavours of debian but never straight debian before |
| 07:16 | <Calinou> | hi |
| 07:16 | <psicobra> | hi |
| 07:17 | <psicobra> | is it my imagination or is debian much slower than ubuntu? |
| 07:17 | <engla> | psicobra: debian doesn't have flavors though. |
| 07:17 | <psicobra> | i.e ubuntu kubuntu etc |
| 07:17 | <psicobra> | lubuntu |
| 07:18 | <psicobra> | bhodi |
| 07:18 | <psicobra> | all debian based |
| 07:18 | <engla> | they are derived distributions |
| 07:18 | <engla> | nothing flavor about them |
| 07:18 | <Calinou> | <psicobra> is it my imagination or is debian much slower than ubuntu? |
| 07:18 | <Calinou> | what desktop environment? what computer specs (RAM/CPU/GPU), |
| 07:18 | <Calinou> | it's pretty fast for me. |
| 07:18 | <psicobra> | ok.... thats what i was refering to sorry if i wasnt clear enough thanks for correcting me |
| 07:18 | <Calinou> | it boots FASTER than ubuntu for me |
| 07:19 | <Calinou> | I use testing + Xfce personally, 64 bit |
| 07:19 | <engla> | psicobra: "much slower" is too vague to answer. Perceptions can hang on small details even |
| 07:19 | <psicobra> | it's a laptop running gnome p4-m 1.86 ghz 1.5GB ram 32GB sata SSD# |
| 07:19 | <Calinou> | that's quite old :P |
| 07:19 | <Calinou> | psicobra, try Xfce or LXDE, they are lighter alternatives |
| 07:19 | <engla> | psicobra: are you using debian stable? |
| 07:20 | <psicobra> | Calinou, it runs perfectly in ubuntu and kubuntu |
| 07:20 | <psicobra> | engla, yes debian stable |
| 07:20 | <Calinou> | psicobra, proprietary drivers or free drivers? |
| 07:20 | <psicobra> | Calinou, free |
| 07:20 | <Calinou> | > did you use proprietary drivers in ubuntu? |
| 07:20 | <Calinou> | > did you enable desktop effects? |
| 07:20 | <psicobra> | Calinou, yes |
| 07:21 | <Calinou> | ^ probably why |
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| 07:21 | <Calinou> | proprietary is often faster, however it doesn't like powersaving most of the time |
| 07:21 | <psicobra> | Calinou, yes had full effects in kubuntu cube wobbly windows everything |
| 07:21 | <psicobra> | Calinou, yes thats one of the problems i had when computer went to sleep screen would not power back up |
| 07:21 | <psicobra> | Calinou, i like eyecanfy |
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| 07:22 | <psicobra> | had it turned off when doing most things |
| 07:22 | <Calinou> | I can use desktop effects just fine with nouveau :P |
| 07:22 | <Calinou> | even games |
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| 07:22 | <psicobra> | my gfx card is an ati x300 not powerfull enough for games and compiz |
| 07:22 | <Calinou> | oh |
| 07:23 | <jm_> | nouveau lacks power savings |
| 07:23 | <psicobra> | either or |
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| 07:25 | <psicobra> | though i would give debian a try as i miss gnome stupid ubuntu |
| 07:25 | <psicobra> | unity blagheh |
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| 07:26 | <jm_> | actually some power saving stuff is already there |
| 07:27 | <psicobra> | what is nouveau? |
| 07:27 | <jm_> | nevermind, it's not related to your issue |
| 07:27 | <psicobra> | the ssd i have is very fast on every distro but devian really seems to lag on it |
| 07:27 | <psicobra> | debian |
| 07:28 | <Calinou> | <jm_> nouveau lacks power savings |
| 07:28 | <Calinou> | it has power saving for some GPUs |
| 07:28 | <Calinou> | nouveau = free nvidia drivers |
| 07:28 | <jm_> | Calinou: yes, see above |
| 07:28 | <psicobra> | i see |
| 07:28 | <Calinou> | psicobra has ati not nvidia |
| 07:28 | <Calinou> | :P |
| 07:29 | <engla> | squeeze's kernel is 10 releases behind ubuntu, so there might be gpu or ssd differences there that you actually notice |
| 07:29 | <psicobra> | i really wish some one would work on a free flash player |
| 07:29 | <engla> | (.32 vs 3.2) |
| 07:29 | <psicobra> | adobe flash sucks so bad in linux |
| 07:30 | <Calinou> | ade flash sucks so bad |
| 07:30 | <psicobra> | actually thats not true i wish i was smarter so i could work on a free flash player for linux |
| 07:30 | <Calinou> | no need for "in linux" |
| 07:30 | <Calinou> | ;) |
| 07:30 | <Calinou> | adobe* |
| 07:30 | <psicobra> | i like watching stuff like bbc iplayer and youtube etc |
| 07:31 | <psicobra> | brb reboot |
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| 07:31 | <Calinou> | > HTML5 |
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| 07:32 | <perlwizard> | it's very laggy though |
| 07:32 | <perlwizard> | for me at least |
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| 07:33 | <psicobra> | oh great now i broke my gfx card |
| 07:33 | <engla> | the best solution is sadly youtube-dl and then playing the file.. vlc uses half the cpu of firefox in html5 |
| 07:34 | <perlwizard> | yeah that works best. |
| 07:34 | <psicobra> | segment fault |
| 07:34 | <engla> | that said, vlc can play youtube URLs directly, but often gets stuck in buffering |
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| 07:38 | <mute> | I use this one https://github.com/webgapps/flvideoreplacer + gecko-mediaplayer(it's in the repo) plugin |
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| 07:50 | <psicobra> | meh |
| 07:50 | <psicobra> | oh wel........... |
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| 07:55 | <Xenix> | Bonjour, quelqu'un de français pour m'aider ? |
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| 07:56 | <psicobra> | !fr |
| 07:56 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
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| 07:58 | <psicobra> | !ft | Xenix |
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| 07:58 | <psicobra> | !fr | Xenix |
| 07:58 | <psicobra> | hmmm... |
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| 10:06 | <lazycrazy> | hi all |
| 10:06 | <Calinou> | hi |
| 10:07 | <lazycrazy> | i don know how to chat |
| 10:07 | <gena2x> | we see |
| 10:07 | <Calinou> | you're chatting right now |
| 10:07 | <lazycrazy> | i am a newbie here |
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| 10:08 | <lazycrazy> | means terms and conditions |
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| 10:08 | <lazycrazy> | ??? |
| 10:08 | <lazycrazy> | blabla bla |
| 10:08 | <lazycrazy> | can i discuss problems like this? |
| 10:09 | <gena2x> | with yourself |
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| 10:09 | <babilen> | lazycrazy: This is a technical support channel for Debian users and not a social chat one. You might want to read "/msg dpkg irc tutorial" (that is an irc command) and join a different channel. (such as #moocows or #help) |
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| 10:15 | <cdupont> | hi everybody! |
| 10:15 | <cdupont> | sorry to disturb, I'm having a problem with ghc-pkg that I cannot solve: |
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| 10:16 | <cdupont> | whenever I launch a ghc-pkg command it says ghc-pkg: too few bytes. Failed reading at byte position 65519 |
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| 10:16 | <cdupont> | the file /usr/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf seems to have disappeared from my system |
| 10:16 | <cdupont> | is there a way to regenerate it? |
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| 10:18 | <babilen> | ,file /usr/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf |
| 10:18 | <judd> | Search for /usr/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf in squeeze/i386: ghc6: usr/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf |
| 10:18 | <babilen> | cdupont: You might want to reinstall ghc6 |
| 10:19 | <cdupont> | ok |
| 10:20 | <cdupont> | will it get back all my installed packages? b/c its quite [ainful ;) |
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| 10:22 | <babilen> | cdupont: you mean all packages installed with ghc-pkg? |
| 10:22 | <cdupont> | yes |
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| 10:24 | <babilen> | cdupont: Hmm, no idea. You might also want to check the bts (i.e. http://bugs.debian.org ) for applicable bug reports. I guess that #haskell knows more about using ghc-pkg |
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| 10:27 | <lazycrazy> | hi all |
| 10:27 | <lazycrazy> | i have small pblm |
| 10:27 | <lazycrazy> | in my modem configuration |
| 10:27 | <lazycrazy> | any help from here? |
| 10:28 | <cdupont> | babilen: yes I'll ask there |
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| 10:29 | <flower> | u better describe your problem exactly and maybe someone can help you, lazycrazy |
| 10:29 | <lazycrazy> | i am using debian sqeeze 6.0.5 .When i am connected to internet suddenly blank screen appears |
| 10:30 | <lazycrazy> | saying that modem respawning too fast disabling for 5 minutes |
| 10:31 | <lazycrazy> | and both the web browsers iceweasel and epiphany are crashing frequently |
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| 10:31 | <lazycrazy> | and also making my system hangs |
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| 10:32 | <perlwizard> | what modem is that |
| 10:32 | <lazycrazy> | VIA RHINE2 |
| 10:33 | <lazycrazy> | i couldnt do any thing than rebooting my system |
| 10:33 | <lazycrazy> | when it hangs |
| 10:33 | <perlwizard> | how did you configure it? |
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| 10:34 | <lazycrazy> | i configured it by PPPOECONF |
| 10:35 | <lazycrazy> | actually its a BROADBAND connection |
| 10:35 | <lazycrazy> | requires username and password |
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| 10:36 | <lazycrazy> | i don knw why the browsers are crashing frequently |
| 10:37 | <lazycrazy> | i tried to open my browser in terminal |
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| 10:37 | <lazycrazy> | after crash browser diappears with a single message |
| 10:38 | <lazycrazy> | SEGMENTATION FAULT |
| 10:38 | <lazycrazy> | any one please tell me any log file to know what exactly the error is? |
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| 10:41 | <Calinou> | what browser? |
| 10:41 | <Calinou> | crashfox? |
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| 10:44 | <lazycrazy> | iceweasel and epiphany |
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| 10:44 | <lazycrazy> | both the browsers |
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| 10:49 | <lazycrazy> | i am just a new bie |
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| 10:51 | <lazycrazy> | interested in learning linux but facing such big pblms in the starting |
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| 11:00 | <kop> | lazycrazy: You might check out footnote 1 in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware |
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| 11:47 | <SynrG> | the advice given at http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#FAQ to configure a static IP# is dubious. while i understand some people prefer to use ifupdown, this is not the "GNOME way". furthermore, there exist a class of applications which want to talk to GNOME and learn about its networking that must use NetworkManager. deja-gnu (an easy personal backup package) is in this class. it uses gconf and gvfs to talk to any number of backends ... |
| 11:47 | <SynrG> | ... providing storage |
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| 11:49 | <SynrG> | also, while at one time (lenny?) NM did not provide a way to assign a static IP#, so ifupdown was your only alternative, NM now quite happily allows you to switch from Automatic (DHCP) -> Manual |
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| 11:51 | <SynrG> | so i field the question here: is it reasonable to advise users that to configure their GNOME systems with a static IP, one should merely change to Manual / all users? or do we really need to retain the "use /etc/network/interfaces" advice here (for some arcane reason)? |
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| 12:00 | <dondelelcaro> | SynrG: if the system is always going to have the same manual IP, then ifupdown is still the way to do it |
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| 12:02 | <SynrG> | dondelelcaro: hmm. but this is a matter of opinion that is hotly contested |
| 12:02 | <ChibaPet> | Network Manager has some magic associated with wireless networks that I have yet to understand. |
| 12:02 | <SynrG> | dondelelcaro: sorry for fragmenting this discussion. i decided some key developers with valuable input aren't here, so moved it to #debian-devel |
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| 12:03 | <ChibaPet> | To wit, I can have an SSID, MAC address, channel, auth data, and ifupdown won't connect me while Network Manager will. |
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| 12:03 | <ChibaPet> | I have yet to understand the particular magic involved. |
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| 12:24 | <fresh-nes> | I boot ubuntu on my Pandaboard. With the kernel 3.3, every thing was fine, but since I use kernel 3.4, my touchscreen hdmi is ignored during the boot... In conclusion : the boot is done, I can use a terminal thanks to the serial port, but I don't have any hdmi output. Do you have any idea ? |
| 12:25 | <andermetalsh> | I have troubles with multiarch |
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| 12:27 | <sney> | !ubuntuirc fresh-nes |
| 12:27 | <dpkg> | fresh-nes: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
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| 12:27 | <fresh-nes> | sorry...and thanks |
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| 12:32 | <andermetalsh> | I have debian sid installed and the multiarch settings in sources.list enabled, but I cant install the googleearth package |
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| 12:33 | <andermetalsh> | I tried aptitude and some installing options, but I couldn't install it |
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| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | !pieces |
| 12:37 | <dpkg> | i heard sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | andermetalsh: go to #debian-next for sid support, and /msg dpkg bat |
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| 12:40 | <AgentC> | short question : how to proove the permissions of an audio PCI device ? (device shown in lspci) |
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| 12:42 | <retrospectacus> | AgentC: what is "proove the permissions" ? |
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| 12:43 | <SynrG> | ChibaPet: i use wpa_supplicant for that with my netbook. i agree that for most users of wireless, NM is more convenient. but then again, most wireless users aren't interested in a static IP# either. |
| 12:43 | <AgentC> | retrospectacus: on tty-console or crontab entry, mplayer says it cant access to audio device. in a X terminal it works. maybe it is a prob of access by group-permissions to the device, or driver .... |
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| 12:44 | <SynrG> | my concern is primarily for desktop systems with wired connections and fixed IP# (a wireless connection with a fixed IP# is possible too, and not too difficult to set up via wpa_supplicant, if you just follow the readmes) |
| 12:44 | <AgentC> | retrospectacus: maybe , maybe not, but when X is using audio, tty-console or other tasks should also access the device even if they are not under x |
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| 12:46 | <gnugr> | andermetalsh:multiarch is a tool to help you to get packages from foreign architectures, is that you problem? |
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| 12:47 | <SynrG> | AgentC: maybe a PolicyKit issue? |
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| 12:48 | <AgentC> | SynrG: what is a policykit issue ? |
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| 12:49 | <SynrG> | trying to think of things that would differ wrt permissions when you are logged into console vs. X |
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| 12:51 | <AgentC> | SynrG: maybe this would be the way, but when mplayer says : resource is busy, seems clearly, but it should be possible to run a player from tty while running X |
| 12:51 | <AgentC> | SynrG: different from my squeeze system is, that wheezy using pulse-audio, which was deinstalled on my pre-squeeze |
| 12:51 | <SynrG> | not certain about that. i thought we had agents running on the desktop to mediate all accesses to audio device that are known to all apps using audio |
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| 12:53 | <bytecode> | hi guys |
| 12:53 | <SynrG> | right, like pulseaudio. so you're using pulseaudio on wheezy? #debian-next may be in a better position to help |
| 12:53 | <SynrG> | AgentC: ^ |
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| 12:53 | <AgentC> | SynrG: can we talk there ? |
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| 12:55 | <AgentC> | SynrG: i tryid in debian-next 2 times, no answers. |
| 12:56 | <AgentC> | SynrG: 1,5 hours |
| 12:56 | <SynrG> | patience, then :) |
| 12:56 | <SynrG> | anyway, let's take it there |
| 12:56 | <AgentC> | :-) |
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| 13:16 | <ChibaPet> | SynrG: So, yeah, that's what I'm wondering - does Network Manager do something unusual with wpa_supplicant? Because if you're using wpa, you're using wpa_supplicant even when you use ifupdown. |
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| 13:17 | <ChibaPet> | Despite this I see more success connecting with Network Manager than ifupdown, and this makes no sense to me. |
| 13:18 | <untrusted> | maybe nm does some strange things |
| 13:18 | <untrusted> | reload the module |
| 13:18 | <untrusted> | reload the firmware |
| 13:18 | <untrusted> | retry |
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| 13:19 | <canaima> | canaima |
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| 13:19 | <SynrG> | ChibaPet: unsure. i've been a happy wpa_supplicant user on sid for a while, in any case. though i do remember with squeeze at least one connection scenario where it refused to connect but NM was OK |
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| 13:22 | <ChibaPet> | I'll see if I can isolate what's different. Probably worth making sure that ifupdown does whatever it is NM's doing in those situations. |
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| 13:41 | <Viper550> | How do you set Debian on Squeeze to allow user directories? public_html/such? |
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| 13:42 | <petemc> | Viper550: if the userdir apache module is loaded then creating ~/public_html should just work |
| 13:42 | <Viper550> | it didn't. |
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| 13:43 | <petemc> | Viper550: a2enmod userdir |
| 13:43 | <petemc> | as root... |
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| 13:50 | <julian> | hy, how is the chanel to debian on spanish? |
| 13:50 | <callum07> | callum here hello |
| 13:50 | <andermetalsh> | julian: #debian-es I think|| supongo |
| 13:51 | <julian> | tks, men... |
| 13:51 | <callum07> | ola |
| 13:51 | <retrospectacus> | !es |
| 13:51 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 13:51 | <callum07> | seriously ur name is dpkg lol lame |
| 13:52 | <amphi> | !pal callum07 |
| 13:52 | * | dpkg points at callum07 and laughs uproariously |
| 13:52 | <retrospectacus> | haha |
| 13:53 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: bot |
| 13:53 | <dpkg> | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 13:53 | <sham-hack> | does any one know how to change login screen? |
| 13:54 | <retrospectacus> | sham-hack: there is an option in "system - Administration" for that ... if you're on stable, gnome. If not, maybe. |
| 13:54 | <joseph> | how disable blank screen when laptop lip is closed? I have a laptop and a 20" monitor and I'd like to use it with laptop lid closed |
| 13:55 | <retrospectacus> | power options... |
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| 13:56 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, there's that options: Blank screen, suspend, hibernate, shutdown. |
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| 13:58 | <callum07> | pwefmjwnf |
| 13:58 | <callum07> | f;knsa |
| 13:58 | <callum07> | df;n |
| 13:58 | <callum07> | sd;fkns |
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| 13:59 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, It's work well while laptop lid is not closed |
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| 13:59 | <retrospectacus> | joseph: won't the screens power back on if you move the mouse or press the keyboard? |
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| 14:01 | <conviction> | dafuq |
| 14:01 | <retrospectacus> | conviction: /msg nickserv help register |
| 14:02 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, humm, yes, now, I need to buy an USB keyboard =) |
| 14:02 | <conviction> | oh, srry |
| 14:02 | <conviction> | its been so long i dont use irc |
| 14:02 | <retrospectacus> | joseph: how were you planning to operate the machine with the lid closed? ssh from your smartphone? |
| 14:03 | <retrospectacus> | if so, I think the command "DISPLAY=:0 xset -dpms" might turn the screens back on |
| 14:03 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, No, because I have a 20" monitor here, and I think I'll work better with it |
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| 14:03 | <joseph> | I have a desktop working with this monitor, but when I need operate with this other, I use ssh. |
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| 14:06 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, humm, It's nice to know about it. But on this moment I just want to use my laptop like a computer box |
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| 14:07 | <retrospectacus> | well if you want to keep the lid closed, then yeah you'll need another mouse and keyboard, and I *think* the screen will turn itself back on |
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| 14:11 | <nn_> | Hi! anyone using usbmount? just wondering how to pass different options for different file systems with the FS_MOUNTOPTIONS variable |
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| 14:17 | <nenad> | cao |
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| 14:19 | <joseph> | retrospectacus: Yes, but I open Monitors and there's how turn it off again |
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| 14:19 | <joseph> | retrospectacus: I think it'll work like I want. Thenk you |
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| 14:20 | <retrospectacus> | joseph: sorry I lost power there. Great, well try it out, someone will be here to help if you have questions... |
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| 14:22 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, Ok, thank you. Hey, could you explain me this command? "DISPLAY=:0 xset -dpms" |
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| 14:23 | <retrospectacus> | DISPLAY is a environment variable that is :0 for commands run from X, tells programs to "use" that display... over ssh it is not set so that is how to use xset on the existing display from ssh. ''man xset'' for the rest |
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| 14:25 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, Here echo $DISPLAY returns ":0.0" nice. Thank you |
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| 14:26 | <retrospectacus> | yeah. if you log in with ssh and echo $DISPLAY it is nothing and running an X program will give an error like "cannot open display: " |
| 14:27 | <retrospectacus> | but you can do e.g. DISPLAY=:0 xmessage hi |
| 14:27 | <retrospectacus> | to run xmessage with that variable set to :0 |
| 14:27 | <retrospectacus> | the .0 part is optional, I've found |
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| 14:31 | <joseph> | retrospectacus, Thank you. I have an USB mouse, and a PS2 Keyboard. I'll buy an adapter for it |
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| 14:47 | <saulotoledo> | I'm here to thanks kop and blast007 by the help yesterday. I'm was with a mysql slow problem at chroot environment, they told me about dns resolution issue. After activate the option skip-name-resolve at my.cnf all is working perfectily! Really thanks! |
| 14:48 | <retrospectacus> | !congratulate saulotoledo |
| 14:48 | <dpkg> | Good show saulotoledo, you did it! |
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| 14:50 | <VictorAlpha> | yo all :) |
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| 14:51 | <Calinou> | hi |
| 14:51 | <VictorAlpha> | iam runnign debian 5 on an obsolete 600mhz Alpha machine :) |
| 14:52 | <Calinou> | !obit retrospectacus |
| 14:52 | <Calinou> | VictorAlpha, why 5 |
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| 14:52 | * | Calinou is running testing amd64 |
| 14:52 | <VictorAlpha> | There isn't 6 for alpha :) |
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| 14:52 | <VictorAlpha> | its a digital persenal workstation 600a :) |
| 14:54 | <retrospectacus> | VictorAlpha: if you're looking for lenny sources, /msg dpkg lenny sources.list |
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| 14:55 | <VictorAlpha> | i found the sources on debian archive :) |
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| 14:55 | <retrospectacus> | good show |
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| 14:56 | <VictorAlpha> | retrospectacus, iam runnign xfce |
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| 14:56 | <VictorAlpha> | its a bit slow but it works |
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| 14:58 | <retrospectacus> | VictorAlpha: hmm cool, but this is a support channel. Do you have a support question? If you just want to chat, please go to #debian-offtopic |
| 14:59 | <VictorAlpha> | ok i just clicked in xchat on the debian irc to test it :) |
| 14:59 | <VictorAlpha> | and i dont have questions :) |
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| 15:08 | <houms> | anyone using bacula admin console can help me with where to find the settings http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg06507.html |
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| 15:10 | <sney> | houms: I'd ask in #bacula on freenode |
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| 15:15 | <houms> | thanks currently in there now trying to get it squared away, but the latest debian 5.2 version basically disabled the version browser for the brestore utility which is severly broken. now it seems that restores via the admin console do not work and basically hang the program. |
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| 15:15 | <houms> | sney do you know how to restart multiple services at once say bacula-fd and bacula-sd |
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| 15:28 | <retrospectacus> | houms: just use & in bash to run tasks in parallel: service bacula-fd restart & service bacula-sd restart |
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| 15:29 | <retrospectacus> | though, this may actually be a bad idea |
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| 15:31 | <houms> | bacula admin console is shot to hell. not sure what they did in the new version but it is severly fubar'ed |
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| 15:40 | <crashod> | how can i edit the grub boot menu to delete a entry in debian amd64 6.0.5 |
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| 15:42 | <retrospectacus> | crashod: vi /etc/default/grub |
| 15:42 | <retrospectacus> | and then update-grub |
| 15:42 | <retrospectacus> | crashod: $EDITOR /etc/default/grub |
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| 15:44 | <retrospectacus> | oh I think to delete just rm the files from /boot/ and update-grub |
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| 15:46 | <crashod> | okay thanks, when i installed kernel 3.2 it somehow also tried to install 3.4.4 but it does not work |
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| 15:47 | <mornfall> | Evening folks. Anyone with an idea how to compile C++11 on squeeze? |
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| 15:49 | <crashod> | retrospectacus: thanks so much |
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| 15:51 | <suprit> | ping |
| 15:51 | <pparadis> | !ask |
| 15:51 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:51 | <pparadis> | suprit: do not PM people. ask your question here. |
| 15:52 | <suprit> | how to use irc |
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| 15:52 | <saulotoledo> | hello! I have some issues with Samba 3.6 with Linux and WIn7 clients. I saw now the machine accounts have passwords, and client send his password to the server to allow connection. If I remove the password at server, I receive errors. My problems: 1) I'm trying put a linux machine as client, but I receive the error "_netr_ServerAuthenticate2: failed to get machine password for account... |
| 15:52 | <saulotoledo> | ...LINUXPC$: NT_STATUS_NONE_MAPPED" 2) I can't add the Win7 machine manually at my database because this password as I could do with WinXP clients. How can I solve them? |
| 15:52 | <houms> | is there a aptitude or apt-get equivalent to yum --exclude=php\* update |
| 15:52 | <saulotoledo> | ooops, sorry! was to debian-next |
| 15:52 | <pparadis> | !tell suprit about irc tutorial |
| 15:53 | <saulotoledo> | !tell saulotoledo about irc tutorial |
| 15:53 | <retrospectacus> | houms: pinning |
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| 15:54 | <houms> | does aptitude hold package-foo do the same ? |
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| 15:54 | <houms> | if so how do i unhold a package |
| 15:54 | <suprit> | thanx i ll look it |
| 15:54 | <houms> | aptitude hold seems to work |
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| 15:54 | <retrospectacus> | houms: yes but "hold" is only known by aptitude (not apt-get or synaptic etc) |
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| 15:55 | <houms> | so retro as long as I use aptitude only then that should not be a problem but if using apt-get then pinning is the only way? |
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| 15:55 | <houms> | retro how do i tell aptitude to unhold |
| 15:55 | <houms> | ? |
| 15:56 | <retrospectacus> | dunno. man aptitude |
| 15:56 | <retrospectacus> | pinning is probably best |
| 15:59 | <sney> | houms: with 'aptitude unhold', surprisingly enough |
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| 16:05 | <houms> | lol doh! |
| 16:05 | <houms> | thanks guys |
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| 16:06 | <blast007> | houms: the aptitude man page lists some syntax under the 'install' action that might help as well |
| 16:07 | <houms> | thanks guys just need to hold bacula-console-qt because 5.0.x works 5.2.x does not. |
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| 16:14 | <suprit> | #mad_group |
| 16:15 | <Ysgrammor> | suprit you need to put /join in front of the channel |
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| 16:31 | <stripe> | hi all, xubuntu 12.04 64bit, fresh install, installed "nvidia-current" from synaptic (gts450 card) still screen tearing and has now stopped the sound working, any ideas? thanks |
| 16:31 | <pparadis> | !ubuntu |
| 16:31 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 16:32 | <stripe> | pparadis, sorry I thought it autoconnected to Ubuntu |
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| 16:47 | <saulotoledo> | \/etc\/fstab is mapping user to uid 0 with smbfs. What is wrong? The user is forced at samba and his name is "arquivos". At log I see "connect to service Web initially as user arquivos (uid=0, gid=1003) (pid 11544)". Windows machines accept the correct UID. |
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| 17:09 | <diederik> | Is it me or hasn't anyone spoken/written here in the last 20 mins? |
| 17:10 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 515] by debhelper |
| 17:10 | <Ysgrammor> | diederik: We're just using invisible pixels |
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| 17:10 | <heikkila> | diederik, noone wanted support for Debian for the latest 20 minutes |
| 17:10 | <retrospectacus> | diederik: it's the secret /nodiederik command |
| 17:11 | <heikkila> | oh, and that too ofc |
| 17:11 | <diederik> | ah ok, that works too. My internet connection isn't working too well and not seeing any msg here for 20 mins seemed odd |
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| 17:11 | <diederik> | and LOL |
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| 17:11 | <retrospectacus> | naw... the silence can go for hours... debian is that good ;) |
| 17:12 | <Ysgrammor> | Europe mostly went to sleep or went for dinner |
| 17:12 | <diederik> | that is true |
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| 17:13 | <Ysgrammor> | the windows channel is full of "I put my coffee in the holder and now my computer is broken!" |
| 17:13 | * | Ysgrammor gets back on topic |
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| 17:13 | <diederik> | still not going over there :P |
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| 17:14 | <Ysgrammor> | diederik: I don't know if it even exists tbh |
| 17:14 | <retrospectacus> | yeah windows problems... "something effed up" "reboot" "didn't work" "no idea then" |
| 17:14 | <Ysgrammor> | even better: format C:\ then install Debian |
| 17:15 | * | Dr_O chuckles |
| 17:16 | <retrospectacus> | no need to format. burn debian and pull the plug ;) |
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| 17:17 | <diederik> | good to see all is alive and well here ;) |
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| 17:18 | <Dr_O> | I have made a small patch to the debian firewall uif to make it an ipv6 only firewall... http://bugs.debian.org/679744 any comments or code welcome! |
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| 17:20 | <Ysgrammor> | does anyone know if there id a font in the repos that has east asian unicode characters that show in urxvt without setting letterspace to anything larger than 2? |
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| 17:21 | <Ysgrammor> | for further info: MPH 2B Damase has the characters I want but I either have to set it at much less the size of my primary font or set letterspace to 4 or 6 |
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| 17:44 | <bibche> | hellow masters |
| 17:44 | <bibche> | i add my source.list from debgen.simplylinux.ch but i can not install synaptic , how i can install it? |
| 17:44 | <Ysgrammor> | sudo apt-get install synaptic |
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| 17:45 | <bibche> | loll |
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| 17:48 | <bibche> | Ysgrammor, tnx rebooting |
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| 17:48 | <Ysgrammor> | :| |
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| 17:48 | <Ysgrammor> | acshuly is dolan |
| 17:49 | <diederik> | hmm rebooting ... this is the windows channel after all? :P |
| 17:49 | <Ysgrammor> | gooby pls |
| 17:49 | <Ysgrammor> | everyone knows you have to reboot after you install each package |
| 17:49 | <retrospectacus> | I think that debgen thing is strongly *not* recommended also |
| 17:49 | <Ysgrammor> | 3 reboots for a dist-upgrade |
| 17:50 | <Ysgrammor> | yeah it gives slightly incorrect information |
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| 17:50 | <Ysgrammor> | I usually check whats-his-faces massive sources list |
| 17:51 | <Apollo> | Ysgrammor: you're an ass |
| 17:51 | <Ysgrammor> | how so? |
| 17:51 | <Apollo> | also: what's wrong with debgen? |
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| 17:52 | <Apollo> | you couldve told him synaptic is apt |
| 17:53 | <Apollo> | and that it is installed by default |
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| 17:53 | <Ysgrammor> | it's not if you choose alternate desktop |
| 17:54 | <Ysgrammor> | or install minimal and don't install your desktop from a task metapackage |
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| 17:55 | <Ysgrammor> | Last time I installed using the alternate desktop image (Wheezy has these I haven't checked for Squeeze) and went with xfce - synaptic wasn't there |
| 17:55 | <Ysgrammor> | he wanted synaptic - I assumed he didn't have it installed for whatever reason |
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| 17:55 | <Apollo> | now, whats wrong with debgen |
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| 17:56 | <Ysgrammor> | I've seen a couple of times it listed defunct mirrors |
| 17:56 | <Ysgrammor> | (admittedly this was fixed within a couple of days) |
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| 17:57 | <Ysgrammor> | also it no longer removes security repo options if you choose Sid |
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| 17:57 | <Ysgrammor> | and it seems to let you generate a "full" sources lsit with only experimental |
| 17:57 | <Ysgrammor> | which is misleading for new users |
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| 17:58 | <Ysgrammor> | and they have the old url for debmultimedia |
| 17:58 | <Apollo> | aight, thx ;) |
| 17:58 | <Ysgrammor> | :p |
| 17:59 | <Ysgrammor> | I'll lay off <enter> now |
| 17:59 | <Ysgrammor> | actually gotta o |
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| 18:15 | <yogi_> | hi |
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| 18:15 | <retrospectacus> | hello |
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| 18:17 | <yogi_> | whoami |
| 18:17 | <retrospectacus> | yogi |
| 18:17 | <yogi_> | yes! |
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| 18:18 | <retrospectacus> | what do I win? |
| 18:18 | <yogi_> | a cookie! |
| 18:18 | * | retrospectacus *munch* |
| 18:18 | <retrospectacus> | yogi_: do you have a debian support question? |
| 18:19 | <yogi_> | sorry, no, testing out xchat =x |
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| 18:37 | <Some_Person> | Is it possible to regenerate /etc/fstab? |
| 18:38 | <Some_Person> | The UUIDs in it are all wrong now |
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| 18:39 | <Some_Person> | Actually, everything in fstab is wrong now |
| 18:41 | <retrospectacus> | Some_Person: I don't think so... it's not usually too hard to fix though |
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| 18:47 | <babilen> | Some_Person: "blkid" or "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" might help ... Your backups probably come in handy as well now. |
| 18:48 | <babilen> | Some_Person: What else is wrong? What happened between "then" and "now"? |
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| 18:48 | <Some_Person> | I'm attempting to switch VPS providers without reinstalling anything |
| 18:48 | <Some_Person> | I got the system to boot at least |
| 18:49 | <babilen> | Some_Person: Ok - You most definitely need to adjust UUIDs to the actual values now (but why did they change? aren't these the same filesystems?) |
| 18:50 | <Some_Person> | New filesystem |
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| 19:01 | <sean> | does anyone know how I would go about uninstalling a theme from grub? Is it as simple as deleting the themes folder from boot/grub/themes/x or is there something else? |
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| 19:34 | <ilyass> | hey |
| 19:34 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
| 19:35 | <dvs> | bye! |
| 19:35 | <retrospectacus> | :D |
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| 19:37 | <dvs> | !next |
| 19:37 | <dpkg> | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 19:46 | <gotmynick> | someone knows if emdebian is for i386 and what are the minimal requirements ? |
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| 19:56 | <abrotman> | gotmynick: they have a website, and a channel |
| 19:57 | <gotmynick> | I got an answer on my needs on #debconf-talkroom1, thanks |
| 19:58 | <abrotman> | ok |
| 19:58 | <txomon|home> | what I have to do to install a theme? I have been searching for themes, and have get to gnome-look.org |
| 19:59 | <gotmynick> | txomon|home, depend, as plain user it is usually $HOME/.themes or $HOME/.icons |
| 19:59 | <txomon|home> | but now, I don't know how to install it, neither know why there is not an archive mounter... may I install it on my own? |
| 19:59 | <gotmynick> | what is for your theme ? |
| 20:00 | <gotmynick> | gtk, gnome, icons, screensaver, ... ? |
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| 20:00 | <txomon|home> | well, no idea :( |
| 20:00 | <txomon|home> | it is one of the very first times I install debian, and use gnome out of ubuntu |
| 20:01 | <txomon|home> | so I am badly taught |
| 20:01 | <gotmynick> | you can try to mkdir "$HOME/.themes" and copy it into |
| 20:01 | <gotmynick> | if it's a compressed file, maybe you need to extract it |
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| 20:02 | <gotmynick> | and then try to select such theme and see if it appears on the list |
| 20:02 | <txomon|home> | but, why debian doesn't come with one installed by default? |
| 20:02 | <txomon|home> | I have a very square corners etc. |
| 20:03 | <gotmynick> | mmm it comes with one, maybe you're lacking something from your previous auto-configured-environment |
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| 20:04 | <gotmynick> | in fluxbox I use "composite" for shadows, etc... really don't know too much howto make a "pretty" gnome |
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| 20:04 | <txomon|home> | I have _really_ nothing. No theme etc. |
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| 20:05 | <txomon|home> | I am going to delete .gconf... |
| 20:05 | <txomon|home> | or is there a smarter or better way to reset the DE? |
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| 20:07 | <txomon|home> | coming back in a while |
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| 20:10 | <dvs> | that's fast |
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| 20:12 | <txomon|home> | didn't work... It seems there is something wrong with this ;( |
| 20:12 | <txomon|home> | I get a very strange appearance |
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| 20:13 | <Nemoder> | is there anything like xbmc in debian stable? |
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| 20:14 | <txomon|home> | for example the terminal has a black back (no idea in English) with black letters over it |
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| 20:14 | <txomon|home> | and I just installed debian squeezy and upgraded to wheezy |
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| 20:15 | <txomon|home> | maintaining the user home I had in ubuntu |
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| 20:19 | <sney> | txomon|home: if you kept your /home directory from your ubuntu installation, it kept all of your software settings too.... some of which won't be compatible, especially gnome3/unity stuff. |
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| 20:19 | <sney> | I would just create a new user and copy the files over that you need |
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| 20:20 | <txomon|home> | sney, I erased _everything_ in the configs i did a rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity |
| 20:20 | <alfplayer> | txomon|home: .config? |
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| 20:20 | <gotmynick> | some apps use .local too |
| 20:20 | <txomon|home> | ok, will erase those two too |
| 20:21 | * | gotmynick loves a black background temrinal after years of transparency |
| 20:21 | <gotmynick> | *terminal |
| 20:21 | <pparadis> | gotmynick: me too :) |
| 20:21 | <txomon|home> | yes I nearly do too |
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| 20:21 | <pparadis> | my editors are all black backgrounds for the last few years, too. |
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| 20:21 | <txomon|home> | comming back after relogging in |
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| 20:23 | <gotmynick> | doing a new user was really a good advise |
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| 20:24 | <txomon|home> | well, problem solved |
| 20:24 | <gotmynick> | \o/ |
| 20:24 | <txomon|home> | this seems better. Ctrl+alt+[f1..f6] is what I usually use... |
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| 20:25 | <txomon|home> | and in this case, seems nearly ... human |
| 20:25 | <gotmynick> | tty depends a bit on hardware nowadays |
| 20:25 | <gotmynick> | the aspect |
| 20:26 | <txomon|home> | yes, but I usually configure it allright |
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| 20:27 | <txomon|home> | vga=784 usually does it (I remember the 78, the 4 I am not too sure) |
| 20:27 | <txomon|home> | now my terminal is black over white ;D |
| 20:29 | <gotmynick> | I hoppe you didn't loose something important on that deleted dirs |
| 20:29 | <gotmynick> | like cheese webcam shots, or something like |
| 20:29 | <txomon|home> | chrome sync and... nothing more, my most preciated value are my .ssh folder and... I think my VMs |
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| 20:29 | <txomon|home> | any way I have backups |
| 20:29 | <txomon|home> | so no problem |
| 20:29 | <gotmynick> | backups++ |
| 20:30 | * | txomon|home has remembered to install duplicity or deja-dup |
| 20:31 | * | gotmynick uses a home-made fork of rsnapshot |
| 20:32 | <gotmynick> | but no windows, osx, solaris, bsd, etc support in my version |
| 20:34 | <txomon|home> | now, deja-dup windows displays white letters over nearly white... |
| 20:34 | <txomon|home> | this is just horrible |
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| 20:37 | * | txomon|home has gnome-shell running in high contrast to see something ... and is going #gnome to ask |
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| 20:55 | * | txomon|home is still getting nut, so he is going bed. bb! |
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| 21:03 | <txomon|home> | this is just fantastic. cheese crashes with a segment fault. just installed it :( definetly going to sleep. if someone wants here is what it prints |
| 21:03 | <txomon|home> | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1085486/ |
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| 21:52 | <pedro> | OI |
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| 21:53 | <dvs> | ???? |
| 21:53 | <abrotman> | indeed |
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| 22:23 | <legume> | er i'm kinda new to this but aren't people supposed to be talking? |
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| 22:23 | <haylo> | we are all studying |
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| 22:24 | <haylo> | did you have a debian related question? perhaps one of the ops or devs here can help you, legume |
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| 22:25 | <legume> | right now, I'm just testing out IRC, since I haven't used it before |
| 22:25 | <nevyn> | this channel being quiet is unusual |
| 22:26 | <legume> | I was a little surprised that in a channel of 470 ppl, nobody was saying anything |
| 22:27 | <haylo> | its sort of like a hall of linux gods, you dont really talk unless you have a real question or realization |
| 22:27 | <haylo> | also there is debian-offtopic |
| 22:28 | <haylo> | thats where the party is |
| 22:29 | <legume> | i see |
| 22:29 | <haylo> | do you really ^^ |
| 22:31 | <salamander> | I used to have problems with flash plugins. Now I still have problems with flash plugins, but different ones. Debian etch, iceweasel 10.0.5, flashplugin-nonfree, was not working, there was a black rectangle instead of a video in youtube for example. Tired of trying and looking in google, I installed google chrome. Flash works in chrome, but there is a very high cpu usage that make it almost imposible to watch anything, but it work |
| 22:31 | <salamander> | s. So, what I did was "cp /opt/google/chrome/libgcflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so" and now iceweasel is using the plugin that comes with chrome and it works. Same extrem high cpu usage, but it works. Conclusion, libflashplayer.so was not working. right? |
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| 22:33 | <salamander> | What I did acutally is "mkdir /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/" then "cp chrome plugin there" then change the plugin name. So iceweasel still see both plugins but I have disabled the one that wasnt working |
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| 22:36 | <kop> | salamander: Your plan should begin with upgrading to lenny and then squeeze, or just re-installing. Etch is out of support, as is lenny. Be sure to follow the release notes for the appropriate release when upgrading. |
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| 22:37 | <salamander> | kop |
| 22:37 | <salamander> | kop, mistake, debian squeeze |
| 22:37 | <abrotman> | i get etch and squeeze confused all the time |
| 22:38 | <salamander> | I do too |
| 22:38 | <kop> | salamander: Ok. I don't know flash. There's a <flash> factoid and a wiki page. That's all I know. |
| 22:38 | <salamander> | I used etch for a couple of years so Im used to write debian etch =) |
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| 22:39 | <salamander> | kop flash is another word for pain. |
| 22:40 | <salamander> | I was just sharing my very bad and brutal solution. I have been bothering people here for about three days now about flash. |
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