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| 00:36 | <deep> | hii everyone |
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| 01:24 | <Orange> | Hello |
| 01:25 | <Orange> | anyone can help me? i need to know the type of encryption that uses palimpsest |
| 01:25 | <Orange> | i know that palimpsest depends of cryptsetup for encrypting a partition or drive |
| 01:26 | <Orange> | but i don't know waht type of encryption it uses |
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| 02:53 | <devil_> | Orange: heard of google? didn't even have to open a page to find it's Rijndael (AES) algorithm |
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| 03:13 | <Guest159> | Hey guys. I created a flash drive that is running Knoppix. How can I cause the computer to boot from the windows recovery partition, assuming the partition is on /dev/sda1 ? |
| 03:14 | <devil> | Guest159: not a debian question, is it? |
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| 04:07 | <gman> | Hi guys! After a month of not updating, yesterday I updated my debian and my font in terminal (urxvt) broke - gaps between letters are too big. Some screenshots: before (as it should be) http://oi46.tinypic.com/24lok1u.jpg ; now http://oi45.tinypic.com/1zyvvnt.jpg . A line from my .Xdefaults: URxvt*font: xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=true:hinting=true . Could anyone help me? |
| 04:08 | <gman> | I haven't changed any settings since the update. |
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| 04:12 | <gustavi> | hello |
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| 04:13 | <gustavi> | I have a little problem with dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 04:15 | <gustavi> | because I have a special kernel (Linux 3.2.13-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64, OVH kernel) and I can not recompile it |
| 04:15 | <gustavi> | and this is the error : http://paste.awesom.eu/NxS |
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| 04:19 | <emss> | gman are you missing the dejavu fonts? |
| 04:20 | <Funshine> | hi, i'm really frustrated so i decided to try ask here. i googled this issue and couldnt find help. i have trouble configuring fancontrol/pwmconfig. i have coretemp module installed, and sensors + gkrellm can show my cpu temperature but i can't change the fan speed and it works very low on linux my laptop overheats very quickly. can someone advice me please how can i control fan speed? thanks |
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| 04:21 | <gman> | emss: nope, fc-list says I've got it |
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| 04:25 | <emss> | gman try: xterm -fa 'DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=true:hinting=true' |
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| 04:26 | <emss> | does it display properly? |
| 04:26 | <gman> | emss: yup that works |
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| 04:27 | <emss> | are there multiple urxvt packages? have the correct one installed? maybe a setting with urxvt changed ... |
| 04:28 | <emss> | gman looks like urxvt is treating it as a monospaced font |
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| 04:29 | <emss> | gman did you build urxvt or install a package? |
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| 04:30 | <emss> | a .deb |
| 04:30 | <gman> | emss: installed as a packages |
| 04:30 | <emss> | oh, is urxvt unicode rxvt? |
| 04:30 | <gman> | emss: rxvt-unicode (urxvt) v9.15 - released: 2012-01-21 |
| 04:30 | <emss> | yeh, ok |
| 04:31 | <emss> | i see that now :) |
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| 04:31 | <emss> | try this |
| 04:31 | <gman> | I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rxvt-unicode/+bug/309792 they seem to have the exact problem |
| 04:32 | <emss> | gman xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults |
| 04:32 | <emss> | and starting urxvt again or try urxvt's command-line option for specifying the font |
| 04:33 | <emss> | gman that's and old post |
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| 04:35 | <emss> | i doubt the xrdb command will fix it :) |
| 04:35 | <gman> | yeah but somehow the issue re-appeared. Entering xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults did not do the trick |
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| 04:35 | <emss> | did you try the command line option yet? |
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| 04:36 | <emss> | it could be another setting which influences font spacing in urxvt |
| 04:36 | <gman> | you mean setting the font options when starting urxvt? |
| 04:36 | <emss> | a setting that was disable/enabled at compile time that you can enable/disable at runtime |
| 04:36 | <emss> | yes |
| 04:37 | <emss> | e.g. `urxvt -fa ...' or whatever the urxvt way of doing that it |
| 04:37 | <emss> | is* |
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| 04:38 | <gman> | the -fa arguments don't work...I'll look in the man pages |
| 04:38 | <emss> | you can try urxvt --help |
| 04:38 | <emss> | or -h |
| 04:38 | <emss> | it might have to do with a specific urxvt option pertaining to cjk fonts |
| 04:39 | <gman> | urxvt -fn 'xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=true:hinting=true' |
| 04:39 | <gman> | still broken |
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| 04:41 | <Funshine> | anyone? can someone please help me figure out how to control fanspeed? :\ |
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| 04:44 | <gman> | Funshine: try looking at here http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=64621 |
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| 04:48 | <emss> | gman try the command line urxvt -fn ... in a clean environment |
| 04:48 | <emss> | without .Xdefaults being loaded |
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| 04:49 | <emss> | try xrdb -remove ~/.Xdefaults |
| 04:49 | <emss> | i think |
| 04:50 | <gman> | emss: hm, doesn't seem to work...I'll try to rename .Xdefaults and restart X server |
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| 04:51 | <gman> | i'll be back in a moment |
| 04:51 | <Funshine> | gman: i did but can't get it to work, when i do pwmconfig i get : 'there are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed' |
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| 04:51 | <emss> | Funshine you are missing drivers |
| 04:52 | <emss> | or rather probably just need to manually load a specific kernel module/s |
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| 04:53 | <gman> | emss: yup it works now (without .Xdefaults loaded) |
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| 04:53 | <emss> | well there is a conflict i guess in your ~/.Xdefaults |
| 04:53 | <Funshine> | emss: how do i get them, when i type /etc/acpi i have nothing there to control fan speed. should i compile the kernel from the beginning or how shall i run those modules and what modules.. |
| 04:54 | <emss> | Funshine i doubt you would need to build a custom kernel, you just probably need to find out the correct kernel module/s to load |
| 04:56 | <gman> | emss: it's quite weird because i didn't change anything in .Xdefaults in a year or so...ok I'll try to look for the conflict. Gotta go now, thanks |
| 04:57 | <emss> | bye |
| 04:57 | <Funshine> | emss: thinkpad_acpi ? i have lenovo z570 |
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| 04:58 | <gman> | I'll post a solution if I'll figure it out. Bye |
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| 05:02 | <emss> | Funshine http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.txt |
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| 05:04 | <emss> | http://ibm-acpi.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 05:04 | <emss> | Funshine i think you are the first row :) |
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| 05:07 | <emss> | Funshine anyways bye, if you don't find help here you can always try #debian on irc.freenode.net too :) |
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| 05:07 | <Funshine> | emss: how do i load it? by modprobe? because i can't .. |
| 05:07 | <emss> | yes |
| 05:07 | <emss> | modprobe thinkpad-acpi |
| 05:07 | <emss> | can't? |
| 05:07 | <emss> | error? |
| 05:08 | <Funshine> | emss: error: could not insert 'thinkpad_acpi' ; invalid argument |
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| 05:09 | <emss> | Funshine check /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modules.d/ for something related to thinkpad_acpi |
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| 05:12 | <Funshine> | emss: i have nothing related to it there.. i dont have the /etc/modules.conf file. and dont have /etc/modules.d . i have only /etc/modules that i modified to add coretemp |
| 05:12 | <emss> | or |
| 05:12 | <emss> | sorry, i mean /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 05:13 | <emss> | grep -i think /etc/modules.d/* |
| 05:13 | <emss> | err |
| 05:14 | <emss> | grep -i think /etc/modprobe.d/* |
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| 05:15 | <Funshine> | emss: no such file or directory |
| 05:15 | <Funshine> | emss: grep: /etc/modules.d: no such file or directory |
| 05:15 | <emss> | yeh i men modprobe.d |
| 05:16 | <emss> | use the second grep command :) |
| 05:16 | <emss> | mean* |
| 05:16 | <Funshine> | emss: /etc/modprobe.d/thinkpad_acpi.conf: options thinkpad_acpi fan_control=l |
| 05:17 | <Funshine> | emss: i created that conf file |
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| 05:18 | <emss> | lsmod | grep -i thinkpad |
| 05:19 | <Funshine> | emss: wrote it. it returned nothing. |
| 05:20 | <Funshine> | emss: altough i have an ideapad does it matter? |
| 05:21 | <emss> | no idea, i don't have that hardware :\ |
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| 05:38 | <Funshine> | emss: what is that? http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-doc/msg05325.html i can't figure out |
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| 05:43 | <zeropiel> | du reports 43GB of used space, but when I try to find where the biggest hog is around 20GB is nowhere to be found. Can anyone explain for me? |
| 05:44 | <devil> | zeropiel: there is graphical apps like filelight and others to check on that |
| 05:45 | <zeropiel> | devil: ok, trying that |
| 05:45 | <devil> | zeropiel: baobab would be for gnome, i guess |
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| 05:47 | <devil> | zeropiel: maybe you are fooled by /dev/core, which is virtual |
| 05:47 | <devil> | but that is normaly way bigger |
| 05:47 | <zeropiel> | i'm only checking my own home |
| 05:48 | <zeropiel> | 12GB in .local/share/Trash ??? |
| 05:50 | <devil> | if that's what it says... |
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| 05:54 | <emss> | Funshine that's a patch that you apply to a specific file using the `patch' utility/program |
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| 05:58 | <emss> | Funshine and if you can't find a prebuilt kernel with support for that you will have to compile your own kernel |
| 05:59 | <Funshine> | emss: as i thought, i'll try later to compile a new kernel |
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| 06:03 | <emss> | Funshine debian has a kernel build system |
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| 06:06 | <emss> | Funshine http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel |
| 06:06 | <emss> | bye bbl |
| 06:06 | <Funshine> | emss: thanks |
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| 06:10 | <clement_> | hello evrybody |
| 06:10 | <clement_> | everybody |
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| 06:24 | <clement_> | I'm on debian squeeze 6.0.5, in /var/log/dmesg i get this error : amd64_edac: probe of 0000:00:18.2 failed with error -22. Do you think this error is important or not ? |
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| 06:26 | <clement_> | i read that this error is about memory ecc system but i don't know how i can correct it |
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| 06:39 | <gman> | emss: hi (i'm the guy who had the problem with bad character spacin in urxvt) |
| 06:39 | <gman> | emss: so i finally figured it out |
| 06:40 | <gman> | so i thought i'd share the experience |
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| 06:41 | <swirl> | hi |
| 06:41 | <gman> | URxvt*font: xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=true:hinting=true So when I went trough the .Xdefaults I noticed that there was a whole pharagraph configuring Xft class |
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| 06:42 | <gman> | so at the end I commented out Xft.rgba: rgb and for some reason it worked :D |
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| 07:30 | <paco-TestServer> | hi all |
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| 07:37 | <paco-TestServer> | can anyone, good guy, have a look at http://sighmas.no-ip.org user:test1 y pw:guest and tell me the line I write? |
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| 07:40 | <Apollo> | paco-TestServer: what is that exactly? |
| 07:40 | <Apollo> | and how is it related to debian? |
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| 07:40 | <Apollo> | this is, after all, the debian support channel |
| 07:41 | <paco-TestServer> | it's apache server |
| 07:41 | <paco-TestServer> | I'm working |
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| 07:41 | <Apollo> | and what do you need help with? |
| 07:41 | <paco-TestServer> | I cannot go out and test |
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| 07:42 | <paco-TestServer> | can anyone have a look at http://sighmas.no-ip.org user:test1 y pw:guest and tell me the line I write? |
| 07:42 | <devil> | you can use ddclient |
| 07:42 | <paco-TestServer> | how? |
| 07:43 | <devil> | google no-ip ddclient |
| 07:43 | <devil> | i use dnsdynamic, because i find it easier |
| 07:43 | <olasd> | devil: I think paco-TestServer wants someone to go to the address to test what the web server displays from the outside |
| 07:43 | <paco-TestServer> | bash: ddclient: command not found |
| 07:43 | <olasd> | not update his dyndns entry |
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| 07:43 | <Apollo> | I have no idea what he wants really |
| 07:43 | <devil> | me neither |
| 07:44 | <Apollo> | and I'm reluctant to go to a webserver I have no idea about what's running on it, and why I would need to visit it |
| 07:44 | <paco-TestServer> | if u have a browser |
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| 07:44 | <paco-TestServer> | type http://sighmas.no-ip.org |
| 07:44 | <devil> | there is nothing to enter anything |
| 07:45 | <paco-TestServer> | you mean that web don't work |
| 07:45 | <devil> | welcome to sighmas! is displayed |
| 07:45 | <devil> | nothing else |
| 07:45 | <paco-TestServer> | that is |
| 07:45 | <paco-TestServer> | that's my request |
| 07:45 | <paco-TestServer> | thanks a lot for your help |
| 07:46 | <Apollo> | *blink* |
| 07:46 | <Apollo> | sense, this makes none |
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| 07:46 | <devil> | not really |
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| 07:52 | <Guest187> | uh |
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| 07:53 | <paco-TestServer> | now I closed a port and changed the line, can anyone have a look at http://sighmas.no-ip.org user:test1 y pw:guest and tell the new line? |
| 07:53 | <olasd> | same thing |
| 07:53 | <olasd> | also, no user nor password is ever asked |
| 07:53 | <devil> | paco-TestServer: you don't get it: there is nothing to enter user:test1 y pw:guest |
| 07:53 | <olasd> | and also, this is off-topic for this channel |
| 07:53 | <paco-TestServer> | no autentication? |
| 07:53 | <Apollo> | olasd: we tried telling him that several times |
| 07:53 | <Apollo> | no authentication |
| 07:54 | <paco-TestServer> | shit |
| 07:54 | <Apollo> | this is also *not* for debian |
| 07:54 | <olasd> | Apollo: repetition is the key to pedagogy |
| 07:54 | <olasd> | ("but this is the channel with the most people on it") |
| 07:54 | <Apollo> | he's spanish, that doesn't work |
| 07:54 | <paco-TestServer> | uh, thanks |
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| 08:18 | <happy> | hello anyone here |
| 08:18 | <Calinou> | hi |
| 08:18 | <happy> | hi |
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| 08:18 | <happy> | i'm the first time use xchat |
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| 08:21 | <Apollo> | happy: what do you need help with? |
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| 08:24 | <happy> | thanks,but i don't know what i need |
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| 08:27 | <Losowski> | Good afternoon! |
| 08:27 | <Apollo> | what's the suggested way to customise a Debian Live CD to include a certain package? |
| 08:28 | <abrotman> | i thought the Debian live website had some guides |
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| 08:29 | <Apollo> | the suggested software, mkdanix, is no longer available |
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| 08:42 | <keaza> | pparadis you about? sney_? |
| 08:42 | <abrotman> | you can ask teh whole channel |
| 08:43 | <keaza> | Well, i was talking with them two last night and they where helping me out |
| 08:44 | <keaza> | They asked me to run a memtest over night, after removing a dodgy stick of ram i removed it and it kernal paniced again |
| 08:44 | <keaza> | the mem test brought nothing up |
| 08:45 | <keaza> | Actually, its just brought something up one error |
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| 09:09 | <blackout> | is there a way to use wlan during netinstall? |
| 09:10 | <abrotman> | keaza: more info ? |
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| 09:10 | <abrotman> | blackout: with no encrpytion or WEP, yes |
| 09:10 | <abrotman> | and if your wifi doesn't need firmware |
| 09:11 | <abrotman> | (or you can use the unofficial installer with firmware) |
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| 09:11 | <bartwe> | Hi, i'm looking to buy a new laptop because my current ao751h doesn't actually have glx support, stupid psb drivers |
| 09:11 | <bartwe> | is there a list somewhere of sub 500$ laptops that are 100% supported ? |
| 09:11 | <abrotman> | 500USD? |
| 09:11 | <bartwe> | right |
| 09:12 | <abrotman> | i've found that systems that have intel chips are generally well supported |
| 09:12 | <abrotman> | (personally found) |
| 09:12 | <abrotman> | such as intel wifi/VGA |
| 09:12 | <bartwe> | psb/gma500/poulsbo is an intel (sub) hardware |
| 09:12 | <bartwe> | and isn't properly supported |
| 09:13 | <bartwe> | so i'm a bit burned by that |
| 09:13 | <abrotman> | i have a few boxes with intel video, they work great |
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| 09:14 | <abrotman> | your next choices are ati and nvidia, and well, that's not something I'll condone |
| 09:14 | <abrotman> | bartwe: which version of linux are you running ? |
| 09:14 | <bartwe> | wheezy |
| 09:14 | <abrotman> | fully up to doate? |
| 09:14 | <abrotman> | date |
| 09:14 | <bartwe> | 3.2.0 |
| 09:14 | <bartwe> | yes |
| 09:14 | <bartwe> | 2d works fine btw |
| 09:14 | <bartwe> | 3d doesn't |
| 09:15 | <abrotman> | 3d doesn't work at all? or just slow ? |
| 09:15 | <bartwe> | very slow glxgears in the 100fps range |
| 09:15 | <abrotman> | okay, well, glxgears isn't a benchmark .. but anyway |
| 09:15 | <abrotman> | that's at full screen ? |
| 09:15 | <bartwe> | no |
| 09:15 | <bartwe> | tiny window |
| 09:16 | <abrotman> | sounds odd .. is that a known issue for that chipset? |
| 09:16 | <bartwe> | yes |
| 09:16 | <abrotman> | is that the one that isn't really their card? |
| 09:16 | <bartwe> | yeah |
| 09:16 | <bartwe> | virtualvr or something made it |
| 09:16 | <abrotman> | oh, well that explains that! |
| 09:16 | <bartwe> | powervr |
| 09:17 | <abrotman> | i have actual intel devices, they work well |
| 09:17 | <bartwe> | i didn't know that before spending 12hrs on driver magic |
| 09:17 | <bartwe> | hence my question about a list of known good hardware |
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| 09:19 | <abrotman> | i think my last laptop i bought had .. Mobile 4 chipset |
| 09:19 | <abrotman> | works pretty darn well |
| 09:19 | <abrotman> | and my netbook has intel too |
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| 09:19 | <abrotman> | bartwe: otherwise, you're at the mercy of ati/nvidia for their closed drivers |
| 09:20 | <bartwe> | i'm pretty sure i can get those to work |
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| 09:20 | <Calinou> | <abrotman> blackout: with no encrpytion or WEP, yes |
| 09:20 | <Losowski> | abrotman: This laptop I'm on now was purchased several years ago for under $300 and uses the Intel GM45 Chipset...it's a workhorse |
| 09:20 | <Calinou> | O_o you can't use wifi with securized access? |
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| 09:20 | <Calinou> | is this a debian or linux issue? |
| 09:20 | <Calinou> | (I can install ubuntu/mint with WPA-secured wifi) |
| 09:21 | <abrotman> | Calinou: WEP is "secure" |
| 09:22 | <abrotman> | and he didn't answer me |
| 09:22 | <keaza> | abrotman What info do you need? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4776653/kernal.jpg |
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| 09:22 | <keaza> | thats last time it happend |
| 09:22 | <bartwe> | oh this laptop 'works' fine, but i also do gamedev, and then you need 3d |
| 09:23 | <abrotman> | bartwe: right, Just saying that generally intel video cards are well supported .. you got the red-headed stepchild |
| 09:23 | <abrotman> | keaza: nothing in the logs? full system stop ? |
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| 09:24 | <keaza> | What logs would you like? |
| 09:24 | <keaza> | ill pastebin them for you |
| 09:24 | <abrotman> | see if the crash is also in the log |
| 09:24 | <keaza> | its a kernal panic |
| 09:24 | <abrotman> | right ... |
| 09:25 | <keaza> | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4776653/kernal.jpg |
| 09:25 | <Elapsor> | Calinou, abrotman: I think the installer for testing comes with wpa support (at least for password encrypted wpa networks) |
| 09:25 | <abrotman> | yes, i saw that |
| 09:25 | <abrotman> | Elapsor: yes .. it does |
| 09:25 | <chealer> | Calinou: it's a debian-installer issue |
| 09:26 | <Calinou> | keaza, kernel not kernal ;) |
| 09:26 | <keaza> | Sorry |
| 09:26 | <Calinou> | just saying |
| 09:27 | <keaza> | My friend thinks i should upgrade the kernel to 3.2 backports |
| 09:27 | <abrotman> | so try it |
| 09:27 | <keaza> | I dont know how haha |
| 09:27 | <abrotman> | keaza: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 09:27 | <abrotman> | follow instructions |
| 09:28 | <Losowski> | I always keep a custom kernel on Linux...never using the pre-packaged one |
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| 09:35 | <Losowski> | I always keep a custom kernel on Linux...never using the pre-packaged one |
| 09:35 | <Losowski> | ooops |
| 09:35 | <Losowski> | (hit tab) |
| 09:35 | <Losowski> | lol |
| 09:35 | <Losowski> | sorry |
| 09:37 | <keaza> | Lol :P Dont worry about it |
| 09:37 | <keaza> | abrotman |
| 09:38 | <abrotman> | hi |
| 09:38 | <keaza> | I followed the tut you gave me, thats not what im looking for |
| 09:38 | <keaza> | A while ago before i had to reinstall my friend upgraded the kernal to 3.2.something Backports |
| 09:38 | <abrotman> | yes it is |
| 09:39 | <abrotman> | why isn't it the right site ? |
| 09:39 | <keaza> | Well he downloaded the kernal from kernel.org i belive and then did something with headers |
| 09:40 | <abrotman> | uhm .. |
| 09:40 | <abrotman> | keaza: what is your current uname -r ? |
| 09:40 | <Losowski> | The header packages from Debian are not needed when you compile your own kernel source from kernel.org....I compile almost every week. |
| 09:41 | <abrotman> | let's not confuse things ... |
| 09:41 | <keaza> | 2.6.38 i belive |
| 09:41 | <abrotman> | keaza: what is your current uname -r ? |
| 09:42 | <keaza> | 2.6.32.-5-6 |
| 09:42 | <abrotman> | try again ... |
| 09:43 | <abrotman> | run the command and give us the actual output |
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| 09:43 | <keaza> | 2.6.32-5-686 |
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| 09:44 | <abrotman> | keaza: so follow the instrcutions on that site and then "aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-686" |
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| 09:51 | <houms> | is there a kio-mtp package in debian? |
| 09:51 | <abrotman> | use packages.debian.org to search |
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| 09:52 | <paco-TestServer> | I changed something, http://sighmas.no-ip.org the web request you user and pw now?? |
| 09:53 | <Apollo> | no |
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| 09:53 | <Apollo> | paco-TestServer: you can all test this yourself |
| 09:53 | <Apollo> | I don't see why we need to... |
| 09:53 | <paco-TestServer> | no, I'm in look back |
| 09:53 | <paco-TestServer> | it request user and pw to me! |
| 09:53 | <flower> | coz u are in ur own network |
| 09:53 | <abrotman> | .... |
| 09:54 | <abrotman> | flower: please use english in this channel |
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| 09:54 | <flower> | rofl, ill give my best |
| 09:54 | <paco-TestServer> | did u reload? |
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| 09:54 | <abrotman> | paco-TestServer: try another browser |
| 09:55 | <paco-TestServer> | icewe and epi |
| 09:55 | <abrotman> | what? |
| 09:55 | <paco-TestServer> | they request me user and pw |
| 09:56 | <paco-TestServer> | epifhany |
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| 10:00 | <paco-TestServer> | not a great help, but it's ok |
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| 10:01 | <paco-TestServer> | see u |
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| 10:44 | <bluenemo> | hi guys, i'm the admin for a startup business with 15 ruby on rails developers. currently we each have our own workstation (quad core and stuff.. around 600 euro / 800$ each or so). my boss and i were thinking about thin clients. those would have to support dualscreens and some basic graphical stuff like flash and so on (nothing to fancy). now i'm looking around for a server but dont really know what to look for exactly. would you recommen |
| 10:44 | <bluenemo> | d an expensive blade or a cluster a cluster? is anyone here with such an environment already in place that i could chat a bit about to get a hint to the right directions :) ? |
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| 11:14 | <incruiser> | me Hello |
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| 11:35 | <kop> | bluenemo: You might get better answers on weekdays during US business hours. There seem to be more experienced people then. Or not. |
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| 11:37 | <kop> | bluenemo: I'd think about using the <allwinner a10> and xdmx to get thin-client + multihead. YMMV. |
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| 11:40 | <sney> | I'm always a little concerned that thin client setups will not have enough client side processing power, but for web developers it shouldn't be a big deal |
| 11:40 | <canaima> | marikonnnn |
| 11:41 | <canaima> | geyyyyyyyy |
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| 11:44 | <bluenemo> | thanks so far guys. if any admins administrating this are around i'd love to hear the specs of your systems :) |
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| 12:21 | <pc_magas> | Hello how can i force phpmyadmin to use ssl? |
| 12:21 | <pc_magas> | into a virtualhost? |
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| 12:24 | <kop> | sney: I'm using a 333Mhz Celeron right now for a thin client. And, guess what, it does not have enough processing power. :) |
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| 12:28 | <kop> | pc_magas: Frob your apache config. Something like: RewriteEngine on \n RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !=on \n RewriteRule .* - [F] Instead of rejecting the connection you may want to redirect to https. YMMV. |
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| 12:29 | <ompaul> | kop: being answers over on freenode |
| 12:29 | <ompaul> | pc_magas: please don't answer on two networks |
| 12:29 | <ompaul> | pc_magas: also please don't ask ;-) |
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| 13:06 | <AlexLikeRock> | hola amigos :) |
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| 13:19 | <fredl> | hi folks |
| 13:20 | <fredl> | I have done a fresh squeeze install on a newly created logical volume earlier |
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| 13:20 | <fredl> | however, I seem to have problems getting my md device back online |
| 13:20 | <fredl> | I used to run Sid on that box |
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| 13:23 | <fredl> | now I seem to be having a imsm device or something |
| 13:23 | <fredl> | http://paste.debian.net/180117/ |
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| 13:24 | <fredl> | from this output, everything *seems* normal to me but I'm no expert |
| 13:25 | <fredl> | however, /proc/mdstat still lists both drives as spares. |
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| 13:26 | <fredl> | so I'm not sure what happened here, could it be that Sid made an md device that Squeeze cannot understand? |
| 13:26 | <sney_> | that's not out of the question actually |
| 13:26 | <sney_> | a kernel upgrade might fix that - there are kernels in squeeze-backports that are roughly equivalent to the one currently in sid |
| 13:27 | <fredl> | oh that's worth a try I guess, it's only kernel specific? |
| 13:27 | <claw_> | md and mdadm are part of the kernel |
| 13:27 | <sney_> | yeah, it's a linux kernel feature, that's why you only see it on linux OSes |
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| 13:28 | <fredl> | uhm, how do I see which kernels are in backports? |
| 13:28 | <sney_> | ,kernels |
| 13:28 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); wheezy: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 13:28 | <sney_> | !bpo kernel |
| 13:28 | <dpkg> | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are distributed via backports.debian.org. Ask me about <bdo> to add backports to your sources.list correctly, then run "aptitude update". To list available backported kernel image packages: aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'. To install a package (e.g.): aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
| 13:29 | <claw_> | you will may need the backport of 'mdadm' too |
| 13:29 | <sney_> | ,v mdadm |
| 13:29 | <judd> | Package: mdadm on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.7.2-3; squeeze: 3.1.4-1+8efb9d1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 3.2.2-1~bpo60+2; sid: 3.2.5-1+b1; wheezy: 3.2.5-1+b1 |
| 13:29 | <fredl> | I have backports set up but for the kernel there's the version number in the pkg name so don't know how to check with apt-cache policy |
| 13:29 | <sney_> | hmm, seems likely since it has been backported |
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| 13:31 | <fredl> | hmm |
| 13:32 | <fredl> | when installing the mdadm backport I see http://paste.debian.net/180120/ |
| 13:32 | <sney_> | your OS isn't installed on the md array, right? |
| 13:32 | <fredl> | I'm not getting a really warm comfy feeling from that. |
| 13:33 | <fredl> | nope, not right now so should be fine I guess |
| 13:33 | <sney_> | correct |
| 13:33 | <fredl> | sney how do I see with apt-cache policy which kernels are available in backports ? |
| 13:33 | <sney_> | you don't search with policy |
| 13:34 | <sney_> | I would use the aptitude line that dpkg mentioned above, or just 'apt-cache search linux-image' and look for the ones that have |
| 13:34 | <sney_> | 'bpo' in the version string |
| 13:34 | <fredl> | 'k |
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| 13:39 | <fredl> | *sigh* |
| 13:39 | <fredl> | installed the 3.2.0 bpo |
| 13:39 | <fredl> | dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64: |
| 13:39 | <fredl> | fglrx (10-9)...failed. |
| 13:39 | <fredl> | crap, can't win :( |
| 13:39 | <sney_> | haha, that's an easy one, just install your linux-headers package |
| 13:39 | <fredl> | I did. |
| 13:39 | <sney_> | for 3.2.0? |
| 13:39 | <fredl> | it still says that. |
| 13:39 | <fredl> | yes |
| 13:39 | <sney_> | hmm |
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| 13:40 | <fredl> | also when I manually run /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 13:40 | <fredl> | just 'failed' is all. |
| 13:40 | <sney_> | I think the 'dkms' command offers a way to try the build with more output, but I'm currently away from any systems that have it |
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| 13:48 | <fredl> | ah |
| 13:48 | <fredl> | there's a backports fglrx-driver |
| 13:48 | <fredl> | naturally :/ |
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| 13:49 | <fredl> | '... promising so far. |
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| 13:50 | <fredl> | brb |
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| 13:54 | <fredl> | well... |
| 13:55 | <fredl> | I now no longer have any raid device it seems :( |
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| 13:56 | <fredl> | brilliant, just fucking brilliant. |
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| 13:58 | <fredl> | tremon - just upgraded to bpo mdadmin and kernel. |
| 13:59 | <fredl> | gotta love this, I now no longer have any md device. |
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| 14:00 | <fredl> | oops |
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| 14:15 | <MHz128> | hi all |
| 14:15 | <sney_> | hi |
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| 14:15 | <MHz128> | I have a Steelseries keyboard with a special left-sided key that replaces the Super key. How can I remap this to act like a Super key? (launch Hud etc.) |
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| 14:17 | <sney_> | xmodmap, and you can use xev to find the keycode for that key |
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| 14:17 | <sney_> | I haven't done it in years so the manual can help you better than I from this point |
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| 14:19 | <lazycrazy> | hi,i am trying to fix the bug #618388 of IPPLAN,but the former maintainer stated that "libphp-phplayersmenu itself is not maintained anymore" |
| 14:19 | <lazycrazy> | any one have any dea abt this? |
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| 14:26 | <MHz128> | ok thanks sney! |
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| 14:46 | <cheus> | Hi. I'm currently experience problems with the initramfs hooks for creating conf/conf.d/cryptroot, is there some way to override / force an entry for cryptroot without relying on the failed lvm volume-group guessing code? |
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| 14:54 | <dodo> | is there a known way to install debian using a 3g modem and net-install |
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| 15:04 | <ompaul> | dodo: not that I know of I use a 3g modem after install |
| 15:04 | <ompaul> | !install |
| 15:04 | <dpkg> | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <various cd1>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 15:04 | <ompaul> | if it is in there ^^ it is in there |
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| 15:07 | <dodo> | ok thanks |
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| 15:44 | <OutMan> | 哈嘍 |
| 15:44 | <OutMan> | hello |
| 15:45 | <AlexLikeRock> | hi |
| 15:45 | <OutMan> | yi |
| 15:45 | <G4ngst3r> | hi |
| 15:45 | <AlexLikeRock> | korean |
| 15:45 | <OutMan> | can you speak chinese |
| 15:45 | <OutMan> | i'm sorry |
| 15:46 | <AlexLikeRock> | nop, chinese , :-O |
| 15:46 | <AlexLikeRock> | nop, its chinese , :-O |
| 15:46 | <OutMan> | i can speak english ,but a little |
| 15:46 | <arand> | !cn |
| 15:46 | <dpkg> | 如果您想得到中文的帮助，请您移步本服务器上的#debian-zh频道，进入方式是在您现在输入文字的输入框中输入"/join #debian-zh" （不含引号），谢谢您的合作如果您想要得到中文的協助，請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道，加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號)，謝謝您的合作! |
| 15:46 | <G4ngst3r> | i can't speak good in my native language XD |
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| 15:47 | <OutMan> | oh/my god |
| 15:47 | <AlexLikeRock> | just ask outman |
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| 15:47 | <lazycrazy> | hi all,i have completed BTECH and really wnt to be a debian developer.I read how to join debian page and tried to adopt one package but did not find useful information and got vexed |
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| 15:48 | <AlexLikeRock> | no bodye ther on #debian-zh |
| 15:48 | <lazycrazy> | i really want to be a developer .Can any one who are developing any package need my help? |
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| 15:49 | <G4ngst3r> | I have a question i was installed debian wheezy and all the necesary software but i don't know how install the nvidia propietary driver XD (i was user of ubuntu when this are automated XD) can you hel me? |
| 15:50 | <G4ngst3r> | *where XD |
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| 15:50 | <OutMan> | Graphics driver? |
| 15:50 | <G4ngst3r> | yes |
| 15:51 | <OutMan> | The card is so new? |
| 15:51 | <AlexLikeRock> | for a nVidia or ATI or intel ? |
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| 15:51 | <OutMan> | Your hardware is too new |
| 15:51 | <G4ngst3r> | nvidia geforce 7025/ nforce 603a |
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| 15:53 | <OutMan> | You are following Ubuntu drive |
| 15:53 | <G4ngst3r> | i have tried to install from repositories (by internet tutorial) but when reboot appears a black screen XD |
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| 15:54 | <G4ngst3r> | Outman i use debian wheezy |
| 15:54 | <OutMan> | The new hardware drivers want only supports windows operating system |
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| 15:54 | <OutMan> | The system does not have the question, is the main driver not good |
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| 15:55 | <sney_> | !nvidia dkms |
| 15:55 | <dpkg> | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>. |
| 15:55 | <sney_> | G4ngst3r: ^ these instructions, except linux-headers should not have 2.6 |
| 15:56 | <sney_> | Xorg autodetects hardware for most drivers except the proprietary ones, for those you have to specify it, so that's the part with 20-nvidia.conf |
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| 15:56 | <OutMan> | I was a rookie. |
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| 15:57 | <grafdiffuzor> | sney_ is it possible that card so new, wheezy has drivers w/o support for that card? For NVS 4200 in my T420 I had to download latest source from nvidia site. I use Squeezy, though. |
| 15:58 | <kop> | grafdiffuzor: FWIW, there's a newer X in backports for stable. |
| 15:58 | <OutMan> | thinkpad t420 |
| 15:58 | <sney_> | wheezy's nvidia driver is 302.xx so it should support all nvidia gpus currently available, not including optimus |
| 15:58 | <sney_> | squeeze's nvidia driver is considerably older. 195 I think? |
| 15:59 | <sney_> | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 15:59 | <OutMan> | ThinkPad machine compatibility better personally feel |
| 15:59 | <judd> | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 302.17-3; wheezy/non-free: 302.17-3; experimental/non-free: 304.22-1 |
| 15:59 | <G4ngst3r> | the driver i need i belive is 205 how install this manual without x are the same commands than ubuntu? |
| 15:59 | <grafdiffuzor> | sney_ seems possible, since I've got lesser version from apt-get as I can recall. |
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| 16:00 | <sney_> | G4ngst3r: are you on amd64 or i386? |
| 16:01 | <G4ngst3r> | i386 |
| 16:01 | <OutMan> | What is this place |
| 16:01 | <sney_> | OutMan: this is the help channel for debian users. do you have a question or just noise |
| 16:01 | <OutMan> | We used in the main function of this program is what |
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| 16:02 | <dodo> | i have inatalled debian squeeze using debian-6.0.5-amd64-cd-1.iso, because i didn't have a internet connection. it installed just a base system (it doesn't install openoffice as a net install does, as well as another programs). now i have a internet connection. is there an apt command to install does mising apps? |
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| 16:03 | <sney_> | G4ngst3r: run 'aptitude install linux-headers-686-pae nvidia-kernel-dkms', then run mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 16:03 | <OutMan> | Sorry, I thought it was talking to a tool, similar to the QQ. |
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| 16:03 | <grafdiffuzor> | btw what is the CLI way to check signal level of 3 |
| 16:03 | <grafdiffuzor> | of 3G coverage? |
| 16:03 | <sney_> | dodo: you can search apt with 'aptitude search' and use 'aptitude install' to install packages you want |
| 16:04 | <sney_> | dodo: you can also run 'tasksel' to see the menu from the installer |
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| 16:05 | <dodo> | sney_: so, there is no other way to install all the missing apps? |
| 16:05 | <sney_> | apt doesn't know anything is 'missing', the installer gave you what was available and finished. |
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| 16:06 | <dodo> | ok. i understand. :-) |
| 16:06 | <kop> | dodo: The "debtags" package can also be useful for searching for packages. But for what you want you can probably just use aptitude. You may also wish to run the tasksel command, as root. That will give you "bunch of packages" choices just like the installer. |
| 16:09 | <G4ngst3r> | i do the install of driver an appear this: http://paste.debian.net/180138/ |
| 16:09 | <kop> | dodo: The only "tricky" part is that you need to install the xserver-xorg package in additon to whatever desktop package(s) you chooose. (gnome, kde, xfce, whatever) tasksel will install X and a gnome desktop if you choose it's "desktop" option. |
| 16:10 | <sney_> | G4ngst3r: yes, that's normal, reboot like it says |
| 16:10 | <kop> | dodo: (Tricky if you install just the packages you want using aptitude.) I prefer doing a minimal install and installing afterwords just what I want. |
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| 16:12 | <G4ngst3r> | sney_ if appears a black screen at the reboot how i should do? :D |
| 16:12 | <kop> | dodo: You may wish to see http://paste.debian.net/180140/ for what I like to install/tweak. |
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| 16:13 | <Bobo-Testo> | hi |
| 16:13 | <sparx> | hi |
| 16:13 | <Bobo-Testo> | need a help |
| 16:13 | <sparx> | me 2 :P |
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| 16:14 | <kop> | !ask |
| 16:14 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:15 | <sparx> | anyone know why i cant stop mysql serv? debian ver 6.0.5 squeze |
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| 16:16 | <G4ngst3r> | well guys thanks for all :D godbye |
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| 16:18 | <sparx> | and when i try apt-get -f install i've got an error when stopping mysql serv. When i try to sudo mysql i get error 1045 access denied for user root@localhost using pass NO (password is set and i know it - checked it in webmin) |
| 16:18 | <kop> | sparx: You'll have to tell us the problem. What you did, what happened, etc. Just like the <ask> factoid says above. |
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| 16:18 | <sparx> | im trying to gather all the information but im pretty noob here :) |
| 16:18 | <ompaul> | !webmin |
| 16:18 | <dpkg> | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 16:18 | <kop> | sparx: Why are you using -f? That's almost always a bad idea. |
| 16:18 | <sparx> | coz i cant install anything |
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| 16:19 | <sparx> | mysql with joomla was working nice but yesterday i installed graphic interface (x) and changed ip from static to dhcp (mac address too) |
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| 16:20 | <sparx> | and i installed webmin because i thought it would be nice to have something to help me when i wont know commands :( |
| 16:20 | <kop> | sparx: I get the feeling you're installing things the wrong way. |
| 16:20 | <kop> | !bat |
| 16:20 | <dpkg> | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 16:21 | <kop> | sparx: See also http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware, particularly footnote 1. |
| 16:22 | <sparx> | hm |
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| 16:24 | <sparx> | ok i know that for new users like me installing packages which are not in debian repositories is bad but its killing me why it's stopped working after x instalation ('',) |
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| 16:24 | <kop> | sparx: You are of course free to do anything you like. But after a point you're not running debian any more and we really can't help because we've no clue what's on your box. See also the <frankendebian> factoid. |
| 16:24 | <sparx> | im trying to do the bat thing, brb |
| 16:24 | <G4ngst3r> | thank so much it works :D this is my last question and will don't bother more ;D : how install the compiz efects (debian wheezy with lxde) thanks |
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| 16:25 | <kop> | G4ngst3r: Probably "aptitude search compiz" will give you a package. (We're here to be bothered. Although individuals come and go.) |
| 16:26 | <sparx> | omg... u want me to copy all from apt-get -f install from my debian pc to this windows pc? :P |
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| 16:27 | <kop> | sparx: Usually you run an irc client on your debian box. Some use irssi, some something else. But an irc client is not required. Really you just need an internet connection. |
| 16:27 | <kop> | !tell sparx about pastebinit |
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| 16:28 | <kop> | sparx: Or a web browser and cut and paste. (The mouse selects, the middle mouse button pastes.) |
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| 16:28 | <sparx> | ive already send it via mail :) tried to install irc client for debian box but i usually worked on console only so i dont know how to install things without it 0_0. U want me to copy all of it here? |
| 16:29 | <G4ngst3r> | aptitude search compiz. this show: compiz-fusion-bcop (how i follow with this? XD) |
| 16:29 | <kop> | sparx: No. |
| 16:30 | <kop> | G4ngst3r: You do an "aptitude show compiz-fusion-bcop" and see if it's the one you want. You then do an "aptitude install compiz-fusion-bcop" to install it, if you want to. |
| 16:30 | <kop> | sparx: And that's how you install things at the console. (But you have to be root.) |
| 16:30 | <kop> | G4ngst3r: See "man aptitude". |
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| 16:32 | <sparx> | i am |
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| 16:32 | <sparx> | but already Bobo-Testo told me to do kill -9 pid |
| 16:32 | <sparx> | and it worked |
| 16:32 | <sparx> | i checked with webmin for pid so it's not so lame :) |
| 16:33 | <G4ngst3r> | i do "aptitude install compiz-fusion-bcop" but don't appear to there are a change XD |
| 16:33 | <G4ngst3r> | maybe can i need to find a repository? |
| 16:34 | <Bobo-Testo> | bye |
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| 16:39 | <sparx> | now im on debian box :) thank you |
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| 16:43 | <sparx> | and my another issue... Why i cant copy from webbrowser to terminal? ;/ |
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| 16:44 | <heikkila> | sparx, use right click to get up a menu and choose paste |
| 16:44 | <sparx> | tried |
| 16:45 | <heikkila> | sparx, what are you using? Gnome and Gnome-terminal? |
| 16:45 | <sparx> | on debian empathy and built on terminal |
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| 16:47 | <heikkila> | sparx, empathy is an instant messaging program, I don't know what it has to do with your browser or terminal? |
| 16:48 | <sparx> | lol. sorry... i meant epiphany browser |
| 16:48 | <sparx> | im not used to this OS. my bad |
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| 16:50 | <heikkila> | sparx, it doesn't seem to work here either, but it works with Iceweasel (rebranded Firefox) |
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| 16:52 | <heikkila> | sparx, you can paste to Gedit, copy in Gedit and then paste to the terminal |
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| 16:54 | <sparx> | ive already installed iceweasel and its working well :) thank u |
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| 16:55 | <sparx> | it's kinda sad im soooo lame here :P but let me work on this OS few weeks and You will se :D |
| 16:55 | <sparx> | see* |
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| 16:55 | <sparx> | empty beer :( |
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| 17:00 | <leno> | hi. |
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| 17:01 | <heikkila> | hi |
| 17:01 | <gman> | Hi guys. I have a problem with inotify/incron. From my incrontab: var/log/kern.log IN_MODIFY sh /home/gman/bin/poplog.sh /var/log/kern.log . So it should watch kern.log for modifications and then run my shell script (which basically prints the last line of the specified file using notify-send). The problem is that incrontab entry is rarely triggered (but sometimes it works..I have no idea why...or why it shouldn't for that matter) even though t |
| 17:01 | <leno> | who use #clementine need littlehelp w it!? |
| 17:02 | <heikkila> | leno, you should just tell us what the problem is |
| 17:02 | <gman> | And there's a slight chance that it stopped working after I accidentaly pulled out my USB stick before unmounting it first. |
| 17:03 | <gman> | But since then I have already restarted my computer. |
| 17:03 | <heikkila> | gman, the first message got cut off, it ended with: even though t |
| 17:03 | <gman> | heikkila: ...even though there was a recent change in kern.log. Any ideas? |
| 17:04 | <leno> | sorry ;) .. the music prigram clementine! the music just dosent start.. |
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| 17:04 | <heikkila> | leno, does the music play in other programs? |
| 17:04 | <sparx> | ok thanks all. see u ;) |
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| 17:05 | <leno> | it doesn't matter if i choose di.fm or last.fm |
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| 17:05 | <leno> | nopp |
| 17:05 | <leno> | cant stream from di.fm. |
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| 17:07 | <leno> | i use rhythbox but it dosent work then i donwloaded clementine and trayd to stream from ther but still dosent work.. |
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| 17:09 | <heikkila> | leno, but you can play local files? |
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| 17:10 | <leno> | yes but only one song, i dont dont have enything just installedubunto 12:04.. |
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| 17:11 | <sney_> | !ubuntuirc leno |
| 17:11 | <dpkg> | leno: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
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| 17:13 | <MHz128> | What is the keyboard shortcut to switch video output devices? ie. VGA to HDMI? |
| 17:13 | <MHz128> | or between 2 different monitors, is this possible? |
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| 17:18 | <keaza> | sney_: thanks for the advice about the ram |
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| 17:26 | <Synra> | Hi all, sorry if I'm asking a question that has been answered a hundred times already but I can't find a definitive answer |
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| 17:27 | <Synra> | I have debian stable installed to usb via encrypted LVM, and I wish for this install to run on *any* computer, what is the correct way to label partitions in fstab for this? ../dev/*whatever* will change per-computer, so I must use UUID? |
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| 17:31 | <ompaul> | Synra: that is the only way to lock a mount point to a specific place on any particular disk |
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| 17:32 | <Jzebus> | I have used drives on a new system by just adding their UUID to fstab |
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| 17:33 | <Synra> | Thanks, I have basically zero knowledge of how linux / fstab works with regards to disk location. From what I understand "/dev/sda/b/c" etc is specific to one system, UUID is specific to an individual piece of hardware, so for partitions on a usb, linking to the UUID will enable it to boot from any system? |
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| 17:37 | <Jzebus> | That sounds about right to me, worked with my ESATA drive when I plugged it in using Firewire also. |
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| 17:37 | <Jzebus> | The UUID generally only changes when the device's partition table is altered. |
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| 17:38 | <Synra> | Jzebus, thanks. |
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| 17:39 | <Jzebus> | you're welcome |
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| 17:49 | <rebel> | hey |
| 17:49 | <rebel> | Looking for some help here |
| 17:49 | <rebel> | Anyone willing to help? |
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| 18:11 | * | xfire78xx sera |
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| 18:12 | <Rusty1_> | why would scanimage not find a device when a user has X server and a wm running |
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| 18:18 | <stevecotton> | Rusty1_: user not in the "scanner" group? |
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| 18:27 | <Rusty1_> | stevecotton, scanimage works for user when Xserver and wm not running, and is in scanner, saned groups |
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| 20:12 | <grogan> | sorry guys |
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| 20:13 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 21:11 | <Coder-Je> | Hello Guys Can Any One Tell Me what's the diffrenet in c programming on windows and linux |
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| 21:12 | <youlysses> | Coder-Je: Diffrent in what way? |
| 21:12 | <Coder-Je> | in coding |
| 21:12 | <Coder-Je> | i mean if i learned c programming in windows |
| 21:13 | <Coder-Je> | can i code in linux |
| 21:13 | <youlysses> | Yes. |
| 21:13 | <Jzebus> | if you wrote GUI code then it will be using different APIs |
| 21:14 | <youlysses> | On a gnu based system like gnu/linux you can code in C, but unlike windows, GNU is unix-like so there are diffrences between them. |
| 21:14 | <Coder-Je> | aha |
| 21:15 | <youlysses> | Coder-Je: Have you ever used a unix-like system before? |
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| 21:15 | <Coder-Je> | the different thing is the headr files or what |
| 21:15 | <Coder-Je> | i'm always use linux |
| 21:15 | <Coder-Je> | its been 4 years |
| 21:16 | <Coder-Je> | but now i want to learn programming |
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| 21:16 | <youlysses> | Coder-Je: Will it can be alot more than that. Unix-like systems and Windows are use completley diffrent systems. |
| 21:16 | <Coder-Je> | yes |
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| 21:16 | <Coder-Je> | its different |
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| 21:16 | <Jzebus> | If you write things which depend upon system calls then it will be different. The language is the same, however. |
| 21:17 | <Coder-Je> | i need to learn c to code exploits |
| 21:17 | <Coder-Je> | buffer overflow |
| 21:17 | <Coder-Je> | exploits |
| 21:18 | <Jzebus> | then it's very different and if you have to ask you haven't learned enough to start learning them yet |
| 21:18 | <Coder-Je> | and reverse eng |
| 21:18 | <Jzebus> | then actually learn something |
| 21:18 | <youlysses> | What Jzebus said. The actual language is the same, but the set of libraries that will allow you to talk to the system (In GNU's case, Libc) are very diffrent. |
| 21:19 | <Coder-Je> | thanks dear's |
| 21:19 | <Coder-Je> | is there any good book for learning c programming in linux |
| 21:20 | <Jzebus> | you should learn Linux first, and learn C |
| 21:20 | <Jzebus> | then combine them |
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| 21:20 | <Coder-Je> | iknow linux |
| 21:20 | <Coder-Je> | i used in linux 4 years |
| 21:20 | <Jzebus> | ifyou knew Linux you wouldn't ajhve to ask how coding it is different to coding Windows |
| 21:20 | <youlysses> | "Learn Gnu C" |
| 21:21 | <youlysse`> | Jzebus: He probally knows basic navigation. :-> |
| 21:21 | <Jzebus> | and, as youlysse` says "Learn Gnu C" in fact just learn the latest C spec |
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| 21:22 | <youlysses> | Jzebus: Well if he actually "knows" modern C, then learning Libc shouldn't be to bad. |
| 21:22 | <Jzebus> | the actual syntax though is only about 10% of programing |
| 21:23 | <youlysses> | Coder-Je: Also the actual documentation on gnu.org is great. |
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| 21:23 | <Coder-Je> | thanks guys |
| 21:23 | <ari____> | Coder-Je how old are you? |
| 21:23 | <Coder-Je> | 19 |
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| 21:24 | <youlysses> | Coder-Je: Wow, another youngin! I'm glad I'm not the only one, It often feels like it ... |
| 21:24 | <ari____> | well i am 19 too youlysses |
| 21:24 | <Coder-Je> | hehehe |
| 21:24 | <ari____> | but i thought he was much younger because of the nature of some of his sentences |
| 21:24 | <ari____> | but well, youll never stop learning |
| 21:25 | <youlysse`> | ari___: I hope not! |
| 21:25 | <Coder-Je> | my english is very bad guys |
| 21:25 | <Coder-Je> | sorry for that |
| 21:25 | <ari____> | dont wanna argue with you |
| 21:25 | <Coder-Je> | i'm still learning english |
| 21:26 | <ari____> | its just the "hey guys, want to learn programming to reverse engineer und program exploits all of a sudden while having used linux for already 4 years and i somehow care about linux-windows-compatiblity" that i meant |
| 21:26 | <ari____> | not your english skills |
| 21:26 | <Jzebus> | well, keep learning, it's what life's about :D |
| 21:26 | <Coder-Je> | yeah yeah |
| 21:26 | <ari____> | i dont wanna say this attitude is stupid, i probably just interpreted it wrong for a sec, no fight, mean no harm :)) |
| 21:27 | <ari____> | anyway learn and prosper, and whish you success and fun :) |
| 21:27 | <Jzebus> | I understand the attitude, I was like it once |
| 21:27 | <ari____> | Jzebus wasn't everybody? :) |
| 21:27 | <youlysses> | brb, erc is acting all weird and I want to restart my emacs session anyway. |
| 21:28 | <Jzebus> | ari____, we were |
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| 21:28 | <ari____> | Jzebus :)) |
| 21:28 | <Coder-Je> | so there is any good books |
| 21:28 | <albertsh> | are any of you guys C experts who might be willing to fix a quick bit? |
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| 21:28 | <Jzebus> | not sure but any old C book to learn it |
| 21:29 | <albertsh> | Coder-Je, the famous C book... can't remember the title. |
| 21:29 | <ari____> | Coder-Je which nation u are from? |
| 21:29 | <Coder-Je> | afghanistan |
| 21:29 | <albertsh> | I think it's K&R |
| 21:29 | <Jzebus> | Coder-Je, what is it you need to learn? If you know C and you know Linux then what do you now need to learn? |
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| 21:29 | <ari____> | Coder-Je to be quite honest most of the information is out there |
| 21:29 | <albertsh> | This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language |
| 21:30 | <Coder-Je> | i know linux but idont know c |
| 21:30 | <ari____> | Coder-Je i wouldnt go out when starting to learn something and buy expensive books, you can start by looking for tuts etc on the internet, even pds on books, its out there |
| 21:30 | <Coder-Je> | thats problem |
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| 21:30 | <albertsh> | eh wouldn't always trust the internets |
| 21:30 | <Jzebus> | try some online c tutorials, doesn't matter which platforrm to start with |
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| 21:31 | <albertsh> | one site did some silly stuff that required casting when all you have to do is include stdlib :P |
| 21:31 | <Jzebus> | start with "hello world" then go on |
| 21:31 | <youlysses> | ari____: I think that's one of the hardest skills "noobs" need to develop, and it takes quite awhile to do: Learning how to find and read good technical documentation. |
| 21:31 | <ari____> | exactly |
| 21:31 | <Coder-Je> | David Haskins |
| 21:31 | <Coder-Je> | C Programming in Linux |
| 21:31 | <Jzebus> | know what you mean albertsh, but you get that in books too |
| 21:31 | <Coder-Je> | i found this book |
| 21:32 | <ari____> | youlysses well but it is imo one of the most important skills in this highly technical age of ours |
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| 21:32 | <youlysses> | ari____: Oh I fully agree, but it's something that takes awhile for most to develop. |
| 21:32 | <ari____> | youlysses what put me through school wasnt being eager for learning it was being able to look for information quick, process it, format it, select it, and value information wether it is worth something or not on quick and rational judgement |
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| 21:34 | <ari____> | in germany you have to write a big paper about some topic in your last 2 years of school (when going to the gymnasium - the one that gives you permission for university), well i started 2 days before deadline, got 13 of 15 points |
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| 21:35 | <youlysses> | Coder-Je: Are you very familar with the GNU Toolchain? Because if you're doing C on gnu/linux you almost definitley will. |
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| 21:37 | <arielsanflo> | hello |
| 21:37 | <arielsanflo> | help |
| 21:37 | <arielsanflo> | i am from colombia |
| 21:37 | <ari____> | arielsanflo shoot, whats your problem |
| 21:37 | <arielsanflo> | update-manager |
| 21:38 | <arielsanflo> | no function |
| 21:38 | <youlysses> | What do you mean by "no function"? |
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| 21:38 | <youlysses> | It's not working? |
| 21:39 | <youlysses> | Or you find it useless? |
| 21:39 | <arielsanflo> | yes no work |
| 21:39 | <ari____> | airelsanflo copy error message of terminal in here http://pastebin.com/ and send us link please, so we vcan see for ourselves |
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| 21:40 | <youlysses> | ari____: I wish they did that in American schools. But then again, I matured very slowly during high-school, and probally would have done drastically worse ... |
| 21:41 | <ari___> | youlysses well germany isn't perfect in that regards |
| 21:41 | <ari___> | want to see good education, look at the scandinavian countries |
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| 21:42 | <ryao> | youlysses: I wish they let us write OSS in high school. |
| 21:42 | <kop> | ! debian-offtopic |
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| 21:42 | <youlysses> | ari___: Well I'm sure you guys are doing drastically better than the States ... my whole highschool "career" felt useless. kop: Note taken. |
| 21:42 | <ari___> | kop well we still w8 for arielsanflo to deliver |
| 21:43 | <ari___> | arielsanflo how is it going? |
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| 21:43 | <kop> | ari___: Doesn't matter. Plugs up scanning the backstory. And anway, it's easy enough to join another channel. |
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| 21:44 | <kop> | ari___: (And we all get offtopic on occasion so don't sweat it.) |
| 21:44 | <ari___> | kop it was not my intention to say you have made a wrong judgement, just wanted to explain myself a little bit :))), point noted :)) |
| 21:44 | <youlysses> | kop: I really do appericate being a "watchman". It's people like you who help keep sanity. ;-) |
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| 22:12 | <blooder> | ciao |
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| 22:16 | <youlysses> | Anyone get debian-hurd running natively on their boxen? I'm probally gonna make another attempt tommorow. |
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| 22:28 | <braulio> | hola |
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| 23:14 | <MHz128> | Unity 3D has defaulted to 2D after playing with Nvidia monitor settings. Any ideas? |
| 23:14 | <MHz128> | I've restored xorg.conf, but no success |
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