| --- | Log | opened Wed Jul 25 00:00:34 2012 |
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| 00:31 | <Shingetsu> | hello, can someone please help with a software raid setup? |
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| 00:36 | <Jef91> | In a debian control file how do I tell it to use Depen X for arch i386 and Depen Y for arch amd64 |
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| 01:47 | <ORIONBLUE> | new here |
| 01:48 | <ORIONBLUE> | anybody care to chat |
| 01:48 | <nevyn> | !chat |
| 01:48 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel. Unless you have a Debian Support question, please chat elsewhere. |
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| 01:50 | <ORIONBLUE> | oh thanx |
| 01:51 | <ORIONBLUE> | oh man how do i get into other chat rooms?? |
| 01:51 | <s0u> | type "/join #<channel>" |
| 01:52 | <nevyn> | ORIONBLUE: are you using debian? |
| 01:52 | <ORIONBLUE> | i guess |
| 01:53 | <ORIONBLUE> | "/join #<channel>" |
| 01:54 | <nevyn> | without the quotes and <channel> needs to be an actual channel (try your country or city) |
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| 03:08 | <francesco_> | !list |
| 03:08 | <dpkg> | francesco_: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 04:59 | <Lanta> | Hey my server has swap a single ext3 fs in LVM ... it's serves as ' / ' and ' /boot ' is an ext2 regular partition - standard setup really |
| 05:00 | <Lanta> | If I snapshot my LVM - so I can backup the ' / ' ext3 LV - how would you suggest backing up the regular ext2 /boot partition? |
| 05:00 | <tusharthantharate> | Hi Guys |
| 05:01 | <Lanta> | i was thinking maybe dd the small 512mb ext2 partition into a file on the ext3 before snapshotting |
| 05:01 | <Lanta> | thus easy to restore? |
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| 05:01 | <tusharthantharate> | How to change the GUI image of the installer |
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| 05:05 | <tusharthantharate> | How to change the GUI image of the installer?? |
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| 05:08 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: still the wrong channel :) |
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| 05:08 | <SynrG> | Lanta: i don't really see much point in dd for that |
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| 05:08 | <SynrG> | it's inefficient |
| 05:08 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: there is a #d-i channel even |
| 05:08 | <SynrG> | tusharthantharate: also, if you don't want to annoy the help, don't re-ask your question 4 minutes after asking it |
| 05:09 | <tusharthantharate> | Hey Devil. when i ask my queries in #debian-mentors they say the same thing "wrong channel" |
| 05:09 | <tusharthantharate> | please suggest me the channel where custimization related stuffs are going on |
| 05:10 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: #debian-mentors is for packaging and related problems if they apply to debian |
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| 05:10 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: if you want to bring a package into debian, that's the place |
| 05:10 | <tusharthantharate> | Okay |
| 05:10 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:10 | <devil> | for installer probs there is #d-i |
| 05:11 | <tusharthantharate> | i am trying to customize the debian GUI installer [iso] |
| 05:11 | <buffoon_work> | Hi! I want to backup my system to a windows share. I thought about using rsnapshot because it's an efficient system to hold more backups but the lack of cifs/ntfs features (soft/hard links, permissions...) doesn't allow me. I thought about making a ext3 loopback but there I would have to know now how much time i will use in the future. Is there a way to have such a loopback device with a dynamic size? |
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| 05:12 | <buffoon_work> | or a better idea to use rsnapshot on a cifs share? |
| 05:13 | <SynrG> | tusharthantharate: start at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller |
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| 05:13 | <SynrG> | the d-i team is busy preparing a release. they'll want you to at least have read the doc before asking |
| 05:13 | <tusharthantharate> | Okay |
| 05:14 | <SynrG> | your question lacks precision. they're unlikely to respond to a question like that. you need to learn to ask more precisely what you want |
| 05:15 | <SynrG> | !tell tusharthantharate about smart questions |
| 05:15 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: customizing it for? |
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| 05:17 | <tusharthantharate> | customizing for my client. he wants to have the company logo and backgroung image at the time of installation |
| 05:17 | <tusharthantharate> | Okay. i will on to ask precise questions |
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| 05:19 | <ssmith10> | ? |
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| 05:23 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: well, debian people might be reluctant to invest time in your client ;) |
| 05:23 | <SynrG> | tusharthantharate: ok, that's clearer (but again, it's #debian-boot that needs that clarification, not us) |
| 05:24 | <tusharthantharate> | Okay :( |
| 05:24 | <SynrG> | "customize the GUI of debian-installer" is really quite imprecise |
| 05:24 | <devil> | tusharthantharate: it's up to you to convince them :) |
| 05:24 | <SynrG> | also realize they are a much smaller, busier group, and may not be around when you want them |
| 05:24 | <tusharthantharate> | Okay thanks |
| 05:25 | <SynrG> | meanwhile, you can read the pages starting at the URL i linked |
| 05:25 | <tusharthantharate> | okay. i am on it |
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| 05:54 | <Turner> | hi |
| 05:55 | <Turner> | i have some problems |
| 05:55 | <Turner> | can somebody help me? |
| 05:55 | <petemc> | if you're using debian, just ask |
| 05:55 | <Turner> | i want to run a dump in order to have my debian os on another system |
| 05:56 | <Turner> | how can i do this |
| 05:56 | <Turner> | ? |
| 05:57 | <Turner> | any one here ? |
| 05:57 | <Turner> | yes |
| 05:57 | <Turner> | i have |
| 05:57 | <Turner> | how can i run a dump from whole OS ? |
| 05:58 | <Nemoder_> | with dd? |
| 05:58 | <Turner> | no dump |
| 05:59 | <Turner> | i want to restore my debian os on a new hard drive which is not partitioned |
| 05:59 | <Nemoder_> | sounds like dd would be the right tool for that |
| 06:00 | <Nemoder_> | or just make new partitions and copy everything over |
| 06:00 | <Turner> | and after that |
| 06:00 | <Turner> | can i boot from this new hard drive with debian |
| 06:00 | <Turner> | ? |
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| 06:01 | <Nemoder_> | should be able to after reinstalling grub |
| 06:01 | <Turner> | how can i do this ? |
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| 06:02 | <Nemoder_> | http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover |
| 06:02 | <amory> | hi |
| 06:03 | <Turner> | just another question |
| 06:03 | <Turner> | should i run dd for each directory or run dd for / is enough ? |
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| 06:03 | <Nemoder_> | if you want to copy use cp, if you want to clone the partition use dd on the device |
| 06:04 | <Nemoder_> | and of course, read the documentation |
| 06:05 | <Turner> | alright |
| 06:05 | <Turner> | look |
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| 06:05 | <Turner> | here is the output of df -T on system which i want backup |
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| 06:06 | <Turner> | ###### /dev/sdb5 ext3 / |
| 06:06 | <amory> | I have question for my Quadro 4000 on Ubuntu 12.04 Sometimes the computer freezes and I need to reboot the system |
| 06:06 | <Turner> | ####/dev/sdb10 ext3 /extra |
| 06:06 | <Turner> | and so on |
| 06:06 | <Turner> | ... |
| 06:07 | <Turner> | should i run dd for sda5 , sda10 and ... ? |
| 06:08 | <gnugr> | !tell amory -about ubuntuirc |
| 06:08 | <amory> | thanks |
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| 06:09 | <Turner> | Nemoder_ ??? |
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| 06:23 | <devil> | Turner: http://www.hanckmann.net/?q=comment/31014 |
| 06:24 | <devil> | Turner: or use Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/ |
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| 06:29 | <Turner> | devil : Thanks |
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| 06:32 | <devil> | Turner: clonezilla only saves used blocks in a partition whereas dd saves every block on the partition, used of free |
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| 06:35 | <Turner> | devil : should i run dd dor every partition like sda5 , sda7 and ... ? |
| 06:36 | <devil> | Turner: if your OS is spread over different partitions, i guess thats what it takes. i never do images of the OS |
| 06:37 | <devil> | gotta run |
| 06:37 | <Turner> | devil : thank u |
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| 07:28 | <SynrG> | Turner: i know cloning a system *sounds* easier than the alternative, but i typically set up a fresh install on each new machine. if i have config changes i want to do across a set of machines, track those somehow (in revision control, preferably, but just keeping an "admin log" works too) |
| 07:29 | <SynrG> | the problem is, each new system probably has its own needs (different hardware, slightly different purpose to new system, etc.) so a clone is not really what i usually need |
| 07:29 | <SynrG> | if you do really need a clone, people have already mentioned tools for cloning |
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| 07:33 | <SynrG> | !mondo |
| 07:33 | <dpkg> | Mondo Rescue is a full-featured backup/restore system with support for backup media CDRW, tape, NFS mount, etc - a complete system can be restored from bare metal. http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mondorescue-howto.html#FAQ http://trac.mondorescue.org/wiki/FAQ http://www.mondorescue.org/ |
| 07:33 | <SynrG> | Turner: ^^ another option |
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| 07:42 | <Turner> | SynrG : what is ^^ ? |
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| 07:43 | <babilen> | Turner: It means "see above" (SynrG is referring to the <mongo> factoid on the line above "Turner: ^^ another option") |
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| 07:43 | <Turner> | 00oooo |
| 07:43 | <Turner> | i got it |
| 07:43 | <Turner> | thanks |
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| 09:51 | <lusers> | Hi. I upgraded to wheezy and got "[warn] Creating compatibility symlink from /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts." -- What's the proper fix? Creating a symlink from /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts manually? |
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| 10:10 | <yAnKowNER> | Hi geeks! |
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| 10:11 | <yAnKowNER> | How can I activate my wireless card |
| 10:11 | <yAnKowNER> | ? |
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| 10:13 | <yAnKowNER> | I can't use it now on the new debian squeeze. For information, It's a broadcom wireless card installed on my TOSHIBA laptop. |
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| 10:14 | <kenofrizal> | hi |
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| 10:14 | <kenofrizal> | hello |
| 10:14 | <yAnKowNER> | Please help me! |
| 10:15 | <flowbee> | yAnKowNER: you may need to install the firmware for the card. look for you device to find out http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#PCI_Devices |
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| 10:15 | <nodiscc> | yAnKowNER: can you post the output of 'lspci -nn' http://paste.debian.net/ ? |
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| 10:15 | <nodiscc> | *to |
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| 10:21 | <yAnKowNER> | hi kenofrizal! |
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| 10:32 | <yAnKowNER> | tank u flowbee! |
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| 10:33 | <AgentC> | do anyone an IRC channel for SDL developer (for questions) ? |
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| 10:47 | <jmpc> | Hi all. Yesterday i suspend my laptop with wheezy and this morning can't boot it. The bios only check the hard disk and cdrom only. Later no bios diagnose screen (always the screen is black), no keyboard response, no system boot. After remove the memory and bios battery the result is the same. Ideas? |
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| 10:49 | <pc_magas> | Hi I setup phpmyadmin to use ssl but I get error 400 bad connection from apache 2 on debian 6 lenny |
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| 10:51 | <blast007> | pc_magas: might be more detail in the apache error log, which I believe is at /var/log/apache2/error.log |
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| 10:54 | <pc_magas> | [Wed Jul 25 16:53:14 2012] [warn] Init: Oops, you want to request client authentication, but no CAs are known for verification!? [Hint: SSLCACertificate*] |
| 10:54 | <pc_magas> | [Wed Jul 25 16:53:14 2012] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `snf-3823' does NOT match server name!? |
| 10:54 | <pc_magas> | [Wed Jul 25 16:53:14 2012] [notice] Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) PHP/5.3.3-7+squeeze13 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.16 OpenSSL/0.9.8o configured -- resuming normal operations |
| 10:54 | <pc_magas> | These are the latest errors |
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| 10:55 | <pc_magas> | (I should have used pastebin but the errors are 3 lines only) |
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| 10:57 | <pc_magas> | That means I have to remake the snakeoil key? |
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| 11:00 | <kop> | pc_magas: it probably means that you're not using the snakeoil key. |
| 11:01 | <pc_magas> | How can I setup to use the snakeoil key the apache and phpmyadmin? |
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| 11:01 | <pc_magas> | I should probably modify the default-ssl |
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| 11:02 | <kop> | pc_magas: yeah. Or copy it. In other words, sounds like you just need to pay attention. |
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| 11:04 | <pc_magas> | Ok I can connect to server via ssl with snakeoil key but not to phpmyadmin |
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| 11:10 | <pc_magas> | Still continues error 400 |
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| 11:17 | <abrotman> | !tell pc_magas about multiask |
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| 11:17 | <pc_magas> | Still no answer to multiask and to my prob... |
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| 11:18 | <pc_magas> | Nut I do not rush either |
| 11:18 | <pc_magas> | But* |
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| 11:19 | <abrotman> | .... |
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| 12:05 | <AlexLikeRock> | hi guy , i need help to debian/GNU |
| 12:05 | <retrospectacus> | !tell AlexLikeRock about ask |
| 12:05 | <AlexLikeRock> | i need help to add reposotories, i add " http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian " and archive add " deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian unreleased main " and say bad mirror |
| 12:07 | <AlexLikeRock> | and when wrote .... |
| 12:07 | <AlexLikeRock> | " ftp.de.debian.org/debian " and archive " deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main " and say bad archive mirror |
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| 12:08 | <AlexLikeRock> | i doit like say http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install.en.html |
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| 12:10 | <retrospectacus> | !tell AlexLikeRock about hurd |
| 12:11 | <AutistiCucumber> | Hey iim new here |
| 12:11 | <AutistiCucumber> | whats goin on? |
| 12:12 | <retrospectacus> | !tell AutistiCucumber about irc primer |
| 12:12 | <retrospectacus> | AutistiCucumber: this is debian support. Do you have a question about debian? |
| 12:12 | * | Calinou primes AutistiCucumber |
| 12:12 | <Calinou> | retrospectacus, hi op! |
| 12:12 | <AutistiCucumber> | Just got Pinguy installed so thats basically debian |
| 12:12 | <retrospectacus> | hi Calinou ... do you have a debian question? |
| 12:12 | <AutistiCucumber> | using XChat |
| 12:13 | <blast007> | !pinguy |
| 12:13 | <dpkg> | PinguyOS is a GNU/Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu>. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.pinguyos.com/ #pinguyos on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 12:13 | <AutistiCucumber> | Cuz i was tooo lazy to just get ubuntu |
| 12:13 | <retrospectacus> | AutistiCucumber: sorry we only support debian. Pinguy is not supported here, try #pinguyos on irc.freenode.net |
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| 12:13 | <AutistiCucumber> | Oh |
| 12:13 | <AutistiCucumber> | Just debian? |
| 12:13 | <retrospectacus> | yep |
| 12:13 | <AutistiCucumber> | No derivatives |
| 12:13 | <retrospectacus> | nope |
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| 12:13 | <AutistiCucumber> | Alrighty then |
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| 12:14 | <AutistiCucumber> | Well nice talk |
| 12:14 | <retrospectacus> | AutistiCucumber: if you just want to chat there are other channels here for that |
| 12:14 | <retrospectacus> | try #moocows or #tardigans |
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| 12:15 | <AutistiCucumber> | I know you just told me that... I Know! Pinguy irc.freenode.net |
| 12:15 | <AutistiCucumber> | Ok since you dont do derivatives then ill be leaving now |
| 12:15 | <retrospectacus> | good luck, have fun! |
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| 12:16 | <AutistiCucumber> | Pinguy ftw and see ya... have fun installing a bunch of packages |
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| 12:23 | <Calinou> | <AutistiCucumber> Pinguy ftw |
| 12:23 | <Calinou> | I BEG TO DIFFER |
| 12:25 | <retrospectacus> | no need, we all know already ;) |
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| 12:51 | <AlexLikeRock> | retrospectacus . i don not found solution to "bad archive mirror" :-( |
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| 12:54 | <retrospectacus> | ok? |
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| 15:06 | * | xfire78xx sera :) |
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| 15:41 | <marcelo> | teste |
| 15:41 | <marcelo> | option |
| 15:41 | -!- | marcelo is now known as Guest697 |
| 15:41 | <Guest697> | guest697 |
| 15:41 | <AlexLikeRock> | need a help ? |
| 15:42 | <retrospectacus> | !br |
| 15:42 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:42 | <Guest697> | i'm new here |
| 15:42 | -!- | vaal [~vaal@ip51cc36d9.speed.planet.nl] has joined #debian |
| 15:42 | <Guest697> | I don't know what is this |
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| 15:42 | <AlexLikeRock> | this is support channel, |
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| 15:43 | <Guest697> | cool |
| 15:43 | <AlexLikeRock> | do u wan a talk go to #debian-offtopic chanel |
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| 15:43 | <Guest697> | what I do here? |
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| 15:44 | <Guest697> | say about problems? |
| 15:44 | <AlexLikeRock> | write "/join #debian-offtopic" intro |
| 15:44 | <themill> | !ubuntu-br Guest697 |
| 15:44 | <dpkg> | Guest697: Este canal e para suportar o Debian em Ingles. Por favor, /server chat.freenode.net depois /join #ubuntu-br. |
| 15:44 | <Guest697> | "/join #debian-offtopic" |
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| 15:45 | <AlexLikeRock> | with out cuotes |
| 15:45 | <AlexLikeRock> | /join #debian-offtopic |
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| 15:49 | <Guest697> | mps |
| 15:49 | -!- | Guest697 is now known as mps |
| 15:49 | <mps> | teste |
| 15:50 | <ompaul> | mps: this is not the place for that |
| 15:50 | <mps> | hello |
| 15:50 | <mps> | i neeed help |
| 15:50 | <ompaul> | with? |
| 15:50 | <mps> | i don't know linux |
| 15:50 | <mps> | you can help me? |
| 15:50 | <devil> | mps: this is support for debian, not teaching linux |
| 15:51 | <devil> | mps: there is many ressources on the intetrnet for linux beginners |
| 15:51 | <ompaul> | mps: this one is for debian users http://qref.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:51 | <mps> | but i want learn english |
| 15:52 | <devil> | not here |
| 15:52 | <ompaul> | mps: not here |
| 15:52 | <devil> | or just by reading |
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| 16:10 | <fmlm78> | hi, I need intall xfce in Knnopix |
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| 16:11 | <fmlm78> | how can I do that? |
| 16:11 | <retrospectacus> | !knoppix |
| 16:11 | <dpkg> | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
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| 16:13 | <fmlm78> | sorry |
| 16:13 | <retrospectacus> | no worries |
| 16:14 | <ectospasm> | I like grml as a rescue disk |
| 16:14 | <ectospasm> | !grml |
| 16:14 | <dpkg> | grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:21 | <devil> | fmlm78: but in general: apt-get install xfce4 |
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| 16:28 | <coreyb1> | whats up y'all? |
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| 16:29 | <corey> | anyone know a good lightweight browser for debian? |
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| 16:29 | <corey> | i've used a couple of the pre-installed ones. they seem to have instability issues though. |
| 16:29 | <corey> | i just want something a little more responsive than chrome. my computer is quite old. |
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| 16:34 | <retrospectacus> | corey: xxxterm, midori, and dillo come to mind |
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| 16:44 | <corey> | thanks. how about light-weight window manager? |
| 16:45 | <devil> | corey: lxde, soon maybe razor-qt |
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| 16:46 | <corey> | will lxde feel a lot faster than gnome? |
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| 16:47 | <corey> | sorry gnome2 |
| 16:48 | <devil> | corey: on older hw for sure |
| 16:50 | <corey> | is it as simple as apt-get install lxde? |
| 16:51 | <corey> | -still new to linux |
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| 16:56 | <devil> | corey: should be, yes |
| 16:56 | <corey> | ty. |
| 16:56 | <corey> | gonna try it out now. |
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| 16:56 | <devil> | then set it in your DM |
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| 17:09 | <D3V3FF3CT> | What I do to install Pidgin??? |
| 17:09 | <kop> | D3V3FF3CT: "aptitude install pidgin"? |
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| 17:10 | <D3V3FF3CT> | I could try that one XD |
| 17:10 | <kop> | !tell D3V3FF3CT about search |
| 17:10 | <kop> | !tell D3V3FF3CT about overview |
| 17:10 | <kop> | D3V3FF3CT: fyi, so you know. |
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| 17:14 | <D3V3FF3CT> | Well, I tried to install building files & that all failed. |
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| 17:14 | <retrospectacus> | !tell D3V3FF3CT about bat |
| 17:14 | <D3V3FF3CT> | Then I forgot about the package manager -_- |
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| 17:14 | <D3V3FF3CT> | Ya, got that one. |
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| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | D3V3FF3CT: then you know what you must do if you expect any help |
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| 17:19 | <D3V3FF3CT> | Yep |
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| 17:49 | <fernandes> | qquem esta ahi |
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| 17:51 | <fernandes> | good night,shuki |
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| 17:51 | <fernandes> | elcome, led |
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| 17:52 | <fernandes> | welcome, all |
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| 17:53 | <fernandes> | ok |
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| 17:54 | <fernandes> | boa noite p todos |
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| 18:48 | <onorua> | is there any one alive? |
| 18:48 | <devil> | nope |
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| 18:51 | <retrospectacus> | onorua: welcome to hell. Please talk to devil for your assignment |
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| 18:55 | <daemonkeeper> | No limbo? |
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| 19:00 | <onorua> | retrospectacus: I think devil and hell is something near FreeBSD (at least logo says it) |
| 19:01 | <daemonkeeper> | FreeBSD folks insist that the mascot is a daemon not a devil. |
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| 19:02 | <onorua> | what Debian logo means BTW |
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| 19:03 | <dondelelcaro> | onorua: it's just a swirl |
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| 19:04 | <onorua> | dondelelcaro: well, does it have some sacral meaning? |
| 19:04 | <timo_> | can anyone here help me with debian packaging issues? |
| 19:04 | <dondelelcaro> | onorua: nope |
| 19:04 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: best to just ask |
| 19:05 | <onorua> | timo_: what kind of issues do you have? |
| 19:05 | <daemonkeeper> | onorua: http://www.debian.org/logos/ Look at the full (official) logo to get an idea where the swirl comes from. |
| 19:05 | <timo_> | I'm trying to build a debian package, but the a whole bunch of files that aren't in my package.install file are making it into the package.deb file |
| 19:06 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: where are you installing the files to during the build process? are you using the dh $@ style rules file? |
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| 19:07 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: feel free to ask here, but #debian-mentors is also a channel dedicated to helping people maintain Debian packages for Debian. |
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| 19:07 | <timo_> | I'm building 4 packages in the one control file, and 3 of them work, only the fourth doesn't |
| 19:08 | <timo_> | Is there anything different about the Package: with the same name as the Source: name? |
| 19:08 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: not really, but if you're installing to debian/package-name instead of debian/tmp or have a catchall rule, that'll happen |
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| 19:09 | <timo_> | they're installing to debian/tmp |
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| 19:10 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: ok. if you can put the .dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz (or whatever type of source package you're using) up somewhere, I can look at them |
| 19:10 | <timo_> | there is a rule like: target/name*.jar usr/share/name , which is the one thing that may be a culprit, but I'm not sure how it'd match much else |
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| 19:10 | <timo_> | dondelelcaro, unfortunately I can't post much, as it's an internal app |
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| 19:11 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: well, you can show the rules file and the .install file, presumably. |
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| 19:14 | <timo_> | dondelelcaro, http://pastebin.com/ymG4RpnN |
| 19:15 | <timo_> | I also just tried a build without the target/vault* line and it did the same thing |
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| 19:16 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: what does your rules file look like? |
| 19:17 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: specifically, how are you calling dh_install? |
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| 19:17 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: and how are you installing into debian/tmp? |
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| 19:19 | <timo_> | dondelelcaro, http://pastebin.com/39316aJH has the rules file and one of the other .install files that does work |
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| 19:21 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: cool. what do you have set in debian/compat? |
| 19:21 | <monkey> | is there any android programing channel? |
| 19:22 | <retrospectacus> | monkey: try irc://chat.freenode.net/#android |
| 19:22 | <timo_> | dondelelcaro, that file doesn't exist, should it? |
| 19:22 | <monkey> | okay |
| 19:23 | <timo_> | dondelelcaro, other projects here have compat=5 |
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| 19:24 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: yeah, you need at least 5 in that file, and you probably want 7 |
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| 19:24 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: and ideally 9 |
| 19:24 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: you're operating at compatibility level 1, which is where everything in debian/tmp gets shoved into the first binary package listed |
| 19:25 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: man 7 debhelper; and see the compatibility level options for details. |
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| 19:25 | <timo_> | dondelelcaro, ah, that'd do it. Thank you! |
| 19:25 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: np! |
| 19:25 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: you probably also want to use the dh_auto_build: override style instead of overriding it the way you're doing, too |
| 19:26 | <dondelelcaro> | s/dh_auto_build/override_dh_auto_build/ |
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| 19:27 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: so your build rule would be %: \n dh $@\n override_dh_auto_build:\n $(MVN) $(SUREFIRE) package\n override_dh_supervision: \n dh_supervision --no-start --no-restart-on-upgrade override_dh_clean: \ndh_clean\n$(MVN) clean |
| 19:28 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: that way you don't have all of the --until --remaining stuff |
| 19:28 | <dondelelcaro> | (though it works the same, so whatever works0 |
| 19:28 | <timo_> | we do have some internal templates for this, so I'll probably leave it as is, as I don't understand much of how it all works... |
| 19:29 | <timo_> | dondelelcaro, the build did indeed work. Thank you! |
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| 19:29 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: np! |
| 19:30 | <dondelelcaro> | timo_: ah; yeah, the dh build --until was the way you did it until the override_dh_*: rules were designed; the latter are much more concise (and readable), but whatever works |
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| 19:54 | <coreyb> | okay, running lxde now. feels faster |
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| 19:58 | <Newbumz> | Hello all |
| 19:58 | <retrospectacus> | hi Newbumz |
| 19:59 | <Newbumz> | So any opinion on if some one is capable of tailing a log file but no where near code monkey level if they could live with Debian SID? |
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| 20:01 | <Newbumz> | I bought a midrange workstation ATI Fire Pro and it almost seams easier to install Sid then just installing all the unstable packages into Squeeze to get the 2D HW acceleration working. |
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| 20:15 | <chealer> | I built a Linux 3.4 image on testing i386 using make deb-pkg, using linux-source-3.4 and my current Linux config. I am currently using a stock amd64 image. dpkg won't install the resulting package, which is apparently arch amd64. Is this a known issue? |
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| 20:19 | <coreyb> | hello team. |
| 20:19 | <coreyb> | had a question for you. i have a multimedia keyboard. |
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| 20:19 | <coreyb> | when i was using gnome2 i could control volume. |
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| 20:19 | <coreyb> | now that i've switched over to lxde. i've lost that control. |
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| 20:27 | <coreyb> | ..yeah. |
| 20:27 | <coreyb> | over 400 people but. so dead. |
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| 20:28 | <imran-uk> | coreyb, there's an #lxde channel, maybe try there |
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| 20:28 | <ajkessel> | Can anyone help with a broken/unbootable Debian stable? Problem is bootloader can't mount root drive. I think this may be related to an update-initramfs issue. Been banging my head against the wall for hours trying to fix. |
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| 20:32 | <coreyb> | okay. ty imran-uk |
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| 20:32 | <coreyb> | oh. he left. |
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| 20:50 | <canaima> | hello o hola |
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| 20:50 | <canaima> | hola |
| 20:51 | <canaima> | como estas |
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| 20:51 | <canaima> | hola |
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| 21:17 | <newbie> | Hi |
| 21:18 | <newbie> | anyone available for help? |
| 21:19 | <anbe> | !ask |
| 21:19 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:19 | <newbie> | ok thanx |
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| 21:21 | <newbie> | I travel a lot in the world, and many times find myself with very slow internet connections (over wifi). usually in poor countries |
| 21:22 | <newbie> | if I have a VPS which is very fast, and I connect to its desktop using programs like VNC -viewer |
| 21:23 | <newbie> | will it be possible to achieve much faster speed when browsing through the VPS like that? |
| 21:25 | <petemc> | vnc doesnt work very well on slow links |
| 21:25 | <petemc> | something like nx would be better |
| 21:25 | <newbie> | nx is a name? |
| 21:25 | <petemc> | a protocol |
| 21:25 | <newbie> | ok |
| 21:26 | <newbie> | but what do you think about the idea in general? |
| 21:26 | <petemc> | nomachine.com for a non-free version that works well |
| 21:27 | <petemc> | it may be better than 'normal' browsing, for some things |
| 21:27 | <newbie> | what do you mean for some things? |
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| 21:27 | <petemc> | i mean things like youtube etc probably wont work very well |
| 21:27 | <abrotman> | it still has to be displayed locally |
| 21:27 | <newbie> | the vps uses its own internet link |
| 21:28 | <newbie> | i see. so for video etc it won't be ideal |
| 21:28 | <petemc> | it may play perfectly fine on the desktop that runs on the vps, but what you see via nx probably wont be perfect |
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| 21:29 | <TunnelBlick> | hello :) |
| 21:29 | <newbie> | but it will be much better then local slow connection, right? |
| 21:31 | <petemc> | nx works ok on slower links, is all ill say |
| 21:31 | <petemc> | suck it and see |
| 21:32 | <newbie> | even the free nx version? |
| 21:32 | <petemc> | i use the nomachine version |
| 21:33 | <newbie> | yea i'm looking at their website |
| 21:34 | <newbie> | so u think their free vresion will answer the expectations? |
| 21:34 | <newbie> | about speed i mean |
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| 21:35 | <newbie> | is it better than vnc viewer? |
| 21:35 | <abrotman> | try it and see |
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| 21:36 | <newbie> | i will |
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| 21:42 | <newbie> | thanks very much |
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