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01:47<EmleyMoor>Can GNOME 3 work on kvm?
01:47*EmleyMoor has a serviceable wheezy VM again
01:48<Kjetil>But who would want to use gnome 3 ? :P
01:48<EmleyMoor>Kjetil: It's not necessarily a case of wanting to - it happens to be the default <g>
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01:50<Kjetil>for now :)
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01:51<EmleyMoor>I don't think it's likely to change for wheezy
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02:20<scientes>how can i get the oom killer to trigger before out of memory condition
02:20<scientes>just when it detects a mega-hang due to swapping
02:22<scientes>oh yeah magic sysrq
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02:23<kyle_>Hello, I'm using Debian testing and I'm running into an issue where I can't see any of my desktop icons. Any ideas how I could fix that? If I browse to the Desktop folder I can see files in there, but no files appear directly on my "Desktop"
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02:25<scientes>kyle_, WTF, but it might be a dconf knob
02:26<scientes>or in the settings manager somewhere
02:26<nevyn>or a de/wm that doesn't do desktop icons
02:26<scientes>well i way talking about gnome shell
02:26<scientes>i know support still exists
02:29<kyle_>scientes: I already checked dconf and couldn't find anything that I think would fix it. Also nothing understand System Settings
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03:02<EmleyMoor>I am trying to umount a filesystem but it is reportedly busy. I cannot see anything using it with lsof or fuser though... how can I proceed?
03:03<perlwizard>what fs ?
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03:03<EmleyMoor>As in what type or what mount point?
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03:05<perlwizard>try umount with -l
03:05<EmleyMoor>Ah, that shifted it
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03:57<yang>I am wondering if I have compiled a custom kernel for AMD64 on one box, could I use it on the other AMD64 box aswell ?
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03:57<yang>prolly it has most modules
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04:07<PaulePanter>Using Aptitude which automatically removes packages which are not depended on anymore, is there still a use for deborphan?
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04:12<ry1a1>Is anybody here?
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04:13<ry1a1>Omry, hi
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04:14<PaulePanter>ry1a1: If you have a question, just ask.
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04:16<ry1a1>When i start some programs( pidgin, chromium-browser) i take errors:
04:16<ry1a1>nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
04:16<ry1a1>nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
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04:16<ry1a1>nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 59
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04:17<ry1a1>When i start some programs( pidgin, chromium-browser) i take errors:
04:17<ry1a1>nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30 seven times
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04:23<super>Hello guys
04:23<super>i have upgraded squeeze to wheezy
04:23<super>i cant start gnome3 session, any suggestion?
04:23<super>i am on xfce
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04:24<ry1a1>What do you take when try to start gnome3 session?
04:25<super>okay something is wrong.. for some reason, it showed gnome3 not installed.. but i recall very well, gnome2 got updated to gnome3
04:25<super>anyways, lets try this :)
04:25<super>ry1a1, in recovery mode, when i startx, none of the input works.
04:26<super>and in normal mode, starting gnome3 doesnt show anything, not even panels
04:26<ry1a1>Have you seen login menu?
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04:27<ry1a1>This menu from gnome or from XFCe?
04:27<super>well, its the first login box, with option to log into gnome, and xfce, dont know which package is rendering that loginbox
04:28<super>ps:- system default = gnome.
04:28<ry1a1>You can try between gnome and gnome Classic?
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04:28<super>ry1a1, how to?
04:29<ry1a1>In login menu you have choice, small list in left bottom corner
04:29<super>nope, dont have gnome classic there, only system default and xfce
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04:30<super>and i am getting error like failed to parse value for SANT
04:30<super>whhat is SANT?
04:30<super>okay, gnome3 is installed.. will log into it. if i success i will log in as xtreme
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04:34<devil>ry1a1: your errors are a bug in the nouveau driver
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04:36<devil>ry1a1: what is your graphics card?
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04:39<ry1a1>devil: Nvidia nForce 7050 / 620a
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04:39<ivo888>i have problem with my cardreader
04:39<devil>ry1a1: check the net for compatibility with nouveau
04:39<ivo888>it give me mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card. i read some forums and it seems to be bug
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04:40<ivo888>some people fix it with setpci -v -d 1180:e823 f9.B=fc and some other lines like this, but i don`t have setpci command
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04:41<tale>ivo888: No setpci? What version of Debian GNU/Linux do you have?
04:41<tale>ivo888: Anyway, command setpci comes in package pciutils
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04:42<tale>ivo888: Which is priority standard, so it should be installed.
04:42<ivo888>ok. i`ll install it :)
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04:43<ivo888>setpci: Warning: No devices selected for "f9.B=fc".
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04:47<devil>ivo888: try: update-pciids
04:47<devil>and then setpci again
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04:48<super>any suggestions for me?
04:48<ivo888>This with sd card in reader or without it?
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04:49<devil>it does not matter
04:49<tale>ivo888: If you missed pciutils, maybe you have other things uninstalled, too.
04:49<devil>super: dpkg-reconfigure gdm may help
04:49<tale>ivo888: How did you get that Debian system?
04:49<simonlnu>super: 'exec gnome-session' in ~/.xsession should be fine. keep in mine .xsession is a script, so be careful of your syntax
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04:50<ivo888>it is net install. but some week ago
04:51<ivo888>i use wheezy and squeeze sources, and make update, it broke my kde and remove too much packets
04:51<ivo888>then i install it again without fresh install, and now may be system don`t work fine....
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04:52<devil>seems so.
04:52<ivo888>update-pciids Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2012-08-15 03:15:02 setpci -v -d 1180:e823 f9.B=fc setpci: Warning: No devices selected for "f9.B=fc".
04:52<devil>ivo888: and not 'it' , but 'you' broke kde :)
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04:53<ivo888>yes. i broke it :)
04:53<ivo888>how can i add cardreader in oracle VM?
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05:25<frederick_>So, i want to modify my grub to auto start(for some reason it dosn't),
05:25<frederick_>can anybody help me out, google really dindn't help me all that much'
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05:40<devil>frederick_: are you on about booting a certain OS by default?
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05:40<devil>look at /etc/default/grub
05:41<devil>there is GRUB_DEFAULT=0
05:41<devil>which starts the first OS in the grub screen
05:41<devil>change that to your needs
05:41<frederick_>allright, thanks,
05:41<frederick_>now, i also want to change the first os
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05:42<devil>you mean, change what gets shown as first os in the list?
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05:42<devil>I only did that with grub legacy not grub2
05:43<devil>and have no time to look atm
05:43<frederick_>ah, fair nuff, thanks for the help
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05:46<frederick_>how do i figure out wich grub i have?, As in version type?
05:48<devil>frederick_: grub legacy is not used anymore. dpkg -l | grep grub-pc will tell you
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05:48<devil>afaik even stable has moved to grub2
05:49<frederick_>1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3 GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version)
05:49<frederick_>im i correct in asuming this is Grub2?
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05:49<julianoliver>i have a process, 'events', running at 98% CPU on Debian Stable. lsof shows a 'events/1 19748 root txt unknown /proc/19748/exe'. What is that?
05:50<julianoliver>i can't cat it as cat (also ls) think it doesn't exist. it cannot be killed either.
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05:50<devil>frederick_: you are in the wrong channel btw :)
05:50<devil>frederick_: but yes, it is
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05:51<frederick_>oh, sorry, wich channel would you recommend then?
05:52<frederick_>And thanks again
05:52<devil>frederick_: an ubuntu channel, this is solely for debian
05:52<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://
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06:09<safinaskar>hi. i have wheezy amd64. i have gcc, libc6, libc6-dev, libc6:i386 and libc6-dev:i386 installed. but when i type "gcc -m32 hello.c", i see errors. what to do?
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06:21<lolo>i remove some files from packet, then reinstal it, but it not work
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06:21<lolo>how i can fix it?
06:22<babilen>lolo: What kind of files did you remove?
06:23<lolo>/var/cache/gosa and /etc/gosa
06:23<babilen>!tell lolo -about confmiss
06:24<lolo>what it is?
06:24<babilen>lolo: That should at least take care of /etc/gosa -- I would *purge* the package and reinstall it and I guess that the gosa's postinst takes care of /var/cache/gosa
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06:25<babilen>lolo: You should have received a private message from dpkg (out bot) with information on how to restore deleted configuration files. You can ask the bot yourself too with "/msg dpkg confmiss". See also "/msg dpkg dpkgbot".
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06:32<AgentC>Hi. short question. is there a cmd-line util which can generate ASCII-Treeviews of directories and files ?
06:33<babilen>,i tree
06:33<judd>Package tree (utils, optional) in squeeze/i386: displays directory tree, in color. Version: 1.5.3-1; Size: 30.4k; Installed: 92k; Homepage:; Screenshot:
06:34<AgentC>thank you
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06:52<Lantizia>No matter what I do I can't seem to remove an IP from an interface - any ideas?
06:52<Lantizia>i've tried ifconfig eth0 del
06:53<Lantizia>it's not in /etc/network/interfaces
06:53<Lantizia>if I 'ifdown' eth0 - it claims it's not up even though ifconfig shows it is
06:53<Lantizia>rebooting doesn't help
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06:57<petemc>Lantizia: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig ?
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07:16<Lantizia>petemc, that's difficult while i keep changing networks
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07:31<dutchfish>Lantizia, what debian version?
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08:34<rmk>sprawdzam polaczenie
08:35<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on pl is also <perl>.
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08:37<rmk>thank you for the information :)
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09:19<xylon>Hi, does anyone know how to change iceweasel's default web browser from to
09:19<xylon>because I live in the UK
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09:21<nadir>try this:
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09:22<nadir>or do you mean the start-page?
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09:24<BrandyFox>heres my setup pc1----ethCable---pc2------usbModem-----internet
09:26<BrandyFox>on pc2 I have to disconnect the eth cable for pc2 to be able to use the usbModem
09:26<BrandyFox>what have I done wrong?
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09:28<The>para que sirve esto????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
09:28<The>hay algun español
09:28<babilen>!es The
09:28<dpkg>The: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
09:29<The>alguien habla español?no entiendo ni pipa
09:30<babilen>The: Speak English in here or go to the channel mentioned above ^^^ (/join #debian-es)
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09:33<BrandyFox>I would like to be able to get pc1 on the internet via the usbModem on pc2
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09:39<BrandyFox>anyone got any pointers?
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09:45<tuxcrafter>where can i find debian live usb images with the kernel used in testing or unstable
09:45<tuxcrafter>my sata controller doesnt work with the stable kernel
09:46<babilen>IIRC there are no dailies/weeklies/monthlies of live images right now. But you might want to clarify that in #debian-live
09:47<babilen>tuxcrafter: You can probably build your own live cd, but using something like GRML might be easier. That depends on what you want to achieve though.
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09:48<Calinou>testing images are weekly, not daily/monthly
09:48*Calinou knows more stuff than an op
09:48<tuxcrafter>babilen: i want to check if a newer kernel works for the sata controller
09:48<tuxcrafter>babilen: and then do a debootstrap to install my debian system
09:49<babilen>tuxcrafter: Do you have linux running on the box in question?
09:49<babilen>Calinou: Take it elsewhere -- And we are talking about debian live here. I wouldn't continue to play this game if I were you btw.
09:51<tuxcrafter>babilen: not yet, i want to start a live system and then install it
09:51<BrandyFox>is this the source of my problems
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09:53<babilen>tuxcrafter: And it is important for you that you debootstrap it? Do you know the PCIID of the SATA controller by chance? You could use installation images from kmuto otherwise.
09:56<babilen>Yet another option would be to debootstrap from GRML (or another live cd) or to build you own Debian live image. The former can be found at and the latter is detailed in
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10:00<BrandyFox>so from reading around it looks like I need to enable IP fowarding, how is this done on Debian?
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10:02<dba>babilen: building your own is as simple as 'lb config && lb build'.
10:02<babilen>BrandyFox: /etc/sysctl.conf → uncomment "#net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" -- "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" to enable it on the fly
10:03<babilen>dba: I doubt that would pull in a newer kernel. Haven't done that and will not pretend to know how it is done exactly :-)
10:03<babilen>BrandyFox: (likewise for ipv6 with s/ipv4/ipv6/)
10:03<dba>babilen: it will build a wheezy image with whatever is in wheezy
10:03<dba>babilen: (which is what he wants)
10:03<babilen>Wonderful -- tuxcrafter ^^^
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10:04<dba>(and yes, he's already in #d-live anyway)
10:04<babilen>I am still not sure if tuxcrafter *really* needs a new debian live image though. But my question if it is important that the installation is bootstrapped wasn't answered.
10:04<tuxcrafter>babilen: thanks for your help
10:05<tuxcrafter>babilen: yes debootstrap is important for me
10:05<tuxcrafter>i always debootstrap my debian systems
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10:05*tuxcrafter doensnt understand the debian installer that good :D
10:05<tuxcrafter>better to install it raw :D
10:06<babilen>tuxcrafter: Sure, I have no problem with that. I just didn't want to continue coming up with ideas without knowing what you really want to do. :)
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10:06<tuxcrafter>babilen: since the system has 16 disks i need support in my live system to see the disk so a working sata controller is essential
10:07<tuxcrafter>babilen: i am building a image right now with the debian web frontend
10:07<babilen>I'd just like to know that the Debian installer is not that hard (some might argue much easier than debootstrap) and that images with recent kernels, firmware and WPA(2) support are available from kmuto. (/msg dpkg kmuto)
10:07<tuxcrafter>babilen: jups true, debootstrapping needs some skills :D
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10:08<babilen>s/to know/to point out/ ← less ELANG ;)
10:08<BrandyFox>babilen, I just uncommented that line in /etc/sysctl.conf do I need to restart networking?
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10:09<babilen>BrandyFox: No, but it won't be active immediately. I would set it manually with the sysctl command I gave you for now, but it'll be set when you reboot. Restarting procps would probably do the trick as well.
10:09<Turl>BrandyFox: "sysctl -p" should apply any changes to the file
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10:13<tuxcrafter>,kernel --release squeeze-backports
10:13<judd>Available kernel versions are: squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1)
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10:16<BrandyFox>ok well I did both commands!
10:16<BrandyFox>still 100% packet loss
10:16<BrandyFox>ok well I did both commands!
10:16<BrandyFox>still 100% packet loss
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10:19<XReaper>did you... reboot?
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10:19<BrandyFox>XReaper, me? no I didnt reboot
10:20<XReaper>reboots fix stuff some times
10:21<BrandyFox>but I done this "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" and then "sysctl -p"
10:22<BrandyFox>but I will reboot now! just to be sure (I thought linux freed us from the tryanny of reboots unlike that M$ crap!
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10:23<XReaper>heh, yeah, windows can be a pain sometimes
10:23<XReaper>but in it's defence, they do have a great networking stack
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10:27<silbot>is anybody there?
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10:30<grove>silbot: There's probably a lot of people here, but if we all said hi whenever sombody entered the channel would be unusable - if you have a question just ask
10:32<grove>(I guess dpkg has a factoid explaining it much better, I just don't remember what it's called)
10:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
10:33<XReaper>that one?
10:34<grove>No, I remember that one, but that's only the latter half of what I wrote
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11:15<bluenemo>hi guys. i have a strange problem. when i look at the cpu load in 'top' i get around 10%, in htop the same but in htop all cpu's run on 100% as kernel threads are raping them blind (90% of the cpu is red, rest is normal green). do you have any clues what that could be?
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11:20<blubee>hello guys i am having a little issue i hope someone can help me with. I installed nvidia drivers but now my screen resolution is great but my terminal and stuff like that are somewhat huge, how can i fix that?
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11:21<blubee>anyone here?
11:22<blast007>blubee: yes, over 500 people. ;) just be patient
11:22<blubee>oh, apologies i ment no disrespect
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11:29<sney>blubee: the nvidia driver doesn't support a console framebuffer like the built-ins do. follow the instructions here under "grub 2 and the vga parameter"
11:30<sney>blubee: also, if you installed the nvidia driver by downloading the installer from, be prepared for it to break everything next time X is updated, or if you decide to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy
11:30<blubee>sney thank you, but i have a quick question ... I work with opengl programming so can i still do it with these other drivers?
11:30<blubee>I didn't use nvidia site, i ran a install script
11:31<sney>if it was an install script from anywhere other than debian repositories then it doesn't obey debian package management.
11:31<sney>unfortunately, the version of nouveau that is in debian stable does not support 3d. newer versions will
11:32<blubee>..... hmm
11:32<blubee>looks like i'm between a rock and a rock
11:32<sney>anyway, the instructions on that wiki make it easy to fix the console resolution so you may as well do that
11:33<blubee>yes, that's actually quite easy to do but without 3d support i cannot do my job
11:33<sney>ok? you installed the nvidia driver, which supports 3d
11:34<sney>'nouveau' is the built-in driver.
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11:34<blubee>i am not using the nouvea drivers, these are the nvidia drivers
11:35<sney>you asked me if you could do opengl programming on the "other" drivers, which I took to mean "the ones I am not currently using"
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11:36<sney>quick rundown - nouveau: free, included, supports kernel modesetting for console resolutions, no 3d. nvidia: non-free, installer breaks things (use the debian packages), need to use gfxpayload for console resolutions, 3d supported.
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11:37<tuxcrafter>just a quick one, on a US businesscard whats the name for your mobile number? cell: ... phone: ... mobile: ...
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11:38<blubee>sney thanks, i edited the files, let me restart to see
11:38<blubee>i'll be back shortly
11:38<Pryon>tuxcrafter: the 1 business card I can lay my hands on (not mine) says mobile:
11:38<sney>tuxcrafter: both 'cell' and 'mobile' are acceptable
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11:39<tuxcrafter>Pryon: sney thanks mobile it is
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11:40*babilen moves tuxcrafter to #debian-offtopic or ##english (freenode)
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11:40<tuxcrafter>babilen: thanks
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11:54<Golfgeo>Hi all, got a question... Have a fresh 64 but install here and am installing skype 64 bit via the commandline (direct from But, it has unmet
11:54<Golfgeo> dependencies so I did apt-get -f install.... and now it needs to install all sorts of i386 (32 bit) libraries??? what's that all about?
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11:55<movl>Golfgeo: there is no native 64 bit skype
11:55<movl>so those 32 bit libs are necessary
11:55<Golfgeo>movl: why is there then a 64 bit skype package availible from skype?
11:56<Golfgeo>teamviewer seems to have the same issue haha
11:56<movl>Golfgeo: so you can install it on 64-bit :)
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11:56<movl>yes, teamviewer too
11:56<babilen>Golfgeo: There is *no* native 64bit package. You might want to read
11:57<Golfgeo>I know a 64 bit debian install can handle 32 bit .debs without issue, but to relable a 32 bit version as 64 bit is just silly
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11:57<movl>emphasis on native
11:57<Golfgeo>will read, back in a bit :-)
11:58<babilen>Golfgeo: In short: If you use squeeze: Just install the ia32-* cruft and live with it. If you use wheezy (or later): Use multi-arch. (/msg dpkg multiarch).
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12:01<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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12:10<Golfgeo>oke, tried the dpkg --add-architecture i386 and no sigar
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12:15<blubee>i did that hack synrg pointed me to but all that did was raise my gpu temp from avg 59 degrees to 65 degrees, my computer takes a longer time to boot and still large menus :/
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12:18<ballison>what's the command to list the contents of a package _after_ you've already installed it?
12:19<grummund>dpkg -L package
12:19<dpkg>ii package 2.3-1.2 grummund's private stamp collection
12:19<babilen>ballison: "dpkg -L foo" or "dlocate -L foo"
12:19<ballison>perfect thanks. I was trying apt-get commands. :(
12:21<SynrG>blubee: uh, what?
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12:23<SynrG>blubee: s/SynrG/sney/ perhaps?
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12:24<blubee>synrg i'm sorry it was sney
12:24<blubee>i used tab and typed the wrong name
12:25<blubee>but now my laptop is again running hot, this is the same reason i wanted to try debian
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12:29<SynrG>blubee: pro tip: use more than one letter when you tab-complete nicks
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12:35<blubee>synrg it was a mistake, i'll have to go think about some things. see you later
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12:35<SynrG>aw, didn't get that this was wry humor
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12:35<SynrG>irc people are so touchy :)
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12:36<Apollo>:s/irc //g
12:36<EmleyMoor>How do I set a default console keymap on wheezy?
12:36<SynrG>in /etc/default/keyboard
12:36<tuxcrafter>,kernel --release unstable
12:36<judd>Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.23-1)
12:37<SynrG>EmleyMoor: it uses the xorg model, layout, variant now
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12:37<SynrG>EmleyMoor: that's been true since squeeze, in fact
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12:38<SynrG>that is, assuming you're using console-setup
12:38<SynrG>(i think that's installed by default)
12:39<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... finding it ineffective
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12:41<SynrG>EmleyMoor: is console-setup installed? are the values correct?
12:42<SynrG>EmleyMoor: do you see "Setting up console font and keymap" when booting?
12:42<EmleyMoor>Yes, and I think so.
12:42<EmleyMoor>... and as for that, not sure
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12:43<EmleyMoor>If I could simply set it to "what X is using" that would be fine
12:43<SynrG>try (from console, as root): setupcon -v
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12:46<SynrG>EmleyMoor: also if we could see your /etc/default/keyboard, that may help
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12:48<EmleyMoor>setupcon -v has fixed it. Now, as long as it survives a reboot, that's fine
12:49<SynrG>that was only meant to be a diagnostic, not a fix
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12:50<SynrG>EmleyMoor: have a look at /etc/init.d/console-setup ... it calls setupcon --save (special option needed for when run in 'early boot')
12:50<EmleyMoor>All fine now
12:50<SynrG>so if console-setup runs without errors at boot, it should just work
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12:51<EmleyMoor>I'll let that VM run on into jessie...
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13:13<memos>hello guys ... im on the wheezy/sid. Before some hours i decided to remove completly the GNOME and i installed XDM with fluxbox but i have problem with the sound ... actually i have no sound. Is there any known solution about this?
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13:13<movl>memos: alsa-mixer
13:14<movl>and #debian-next
13:15<memos>already installed
13:15<movl>memos: check if all the settings there are acceotable
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13:17<memos>are all ok ... all at 100% volume and still i can't hear something. I tried to uninstall and reinstall the alsa-* packages and still nothing
13:17<abrotman>!alsa checklist
13:17<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
13:18<memos>ohh yes thanks i forget about this ... comming back with the results ... thank again
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13:23<memos>are all ok now ... goodbye and thanks again
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13:27<xylon>nadir: thanks a lot!
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13:31<xylon>actually, it didn't work
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13:35<fram>Hi, I'm trying to mount a local directory from my remote box (virtual ks) in nfs. Nfs is present in /proc/filesystems, however the mount command says : mount.nfs: No such device, why?
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13:41<retrospectacus>fram: show us your mount command
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13:43<fram>mount my.server.url:/home/fram/nfs /mnt/remote
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13:45<movl>mount -t nfs
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13:47<movl>what is in /etc/exports ?
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13:49<movl>did ya restart the nfs server?
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13:54<aef>when I upgrade my Debian wheezy alpha 1 system until the stable system is finally released, is it guaranteed that the system will perform equally stable as a system directly installed from a stable media?
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13:54<aef>or is it a better idea to reinstall?
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13:56<movl>aef: no need to reinstall
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14:23<dpkg>vera-lisa: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a !
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14:50<lacrosse1992>hello! is there a way to simulate clicking web link from a console? i have a link on website that triggers the shutter on my camera, and would like to use cron to trigger the camera at a regular interval, have tried wget on the link but it does not seem to do the trick
14:51<sney_>maybe curl
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14:51<retrospectacus>lacrosse1992: what's the problem with wget
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14:56<lacrosse1992>@retro wget works perfectly fine, its just that the link does not seem to trigger the other program (ran from an arduino) if i just wget it, may give curl a try though, pretty much trying to make a cron controlled intervalometer for my camera :)
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14:57<retrospectacus>well I don't think curl will do any better, sounds like something else is missing. Maybe you need to send POST data or there's some javascript thing happening with actual clicks that wget is missing
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15:21<vezult>why would the following not work: ssh -p 2222 "export tmpkeyring=keyring-deleteme-after-$(date -d '1 hour' '+%Y%m%d_%H:%M:%S'); echo keyring: $tmpkeyring; echo shell: $SHELL"
15:22<vezult>not work meaning, $tmpkeyring is empty, when echoed
15:22<themill>the variables will be expended by your shell prior to running ssh
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15:23<themill>there's a difference between «echo '$SHELL'» and «echo "$SHELL"»
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15:25<vezult>ok, so escaping the $ works
15:25<vezult>I knew I had to be doing something stupid, thanks.
15:26<themill>no worries
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15:39<lacrosse1992>looks like the program uses get to activate the output (this is code for something to control an led, will be modifying once i get the cron thing down)
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15:47<altoid>is there an issue with i am unable to download the 64-bit netinst ISO of testing (
15:48<sney_>are you getting a 404 or something?
15:48<altoid>Google Chrome connection issue
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15:49<retrospectacus>connection refused
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15:57<altoid> this a widespread issue?
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15:58<devil>altoid: i use chrome daily and never had that issue
15:58<Edenkipz>I need help with setting up wifi on my squeeze laptop
15:58<retrospectacus>altoid: global ;) You'll just have to wait, unless someone knows of a mirror
15:58<altoid>retrospectacus: thanks
15:59<lacrosse1992>although unrelated, just setup a little machine last night (debian router for my dorm room) and had no problem downloading netinstall of squeeze
15:59<sney_>the squeeze installers are hosted on sites with failover
15:59<Edenkipz>It seems that when I tried to create a new internet config using network manager but it failed, I suspect I need network drives
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16:00<Edenkipz>I have no clue with getting WiFi drivers
16:00<retrospectacus>sney_: it resolves to two IPs but both have port 80 closed
16:01<retrospectacus>sney_: oh I see what you meant, squeeze vs. wheezy
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16:01<vezult>Edenkipz: you may be missing firmware for your wifi device
16:02<vezult>do you see anything interesting in dmesg?
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16:02<dimitryssh>any sparc channel on this server?
16:02<Edenkipz> Dmesg?
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16:03<vezult>Edenkipz: dmesg spits out the contents of the kernel message buffer
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16:04<Edenkipz>How do I check out the Dmesg?
16:04<vezult>Edenkipz: at the commandline, type: dmesg
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16:05<Edenkipz>It just says some info about gen stuff
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16:06<vezult>if you do: dmesg > Documents/dmesg.txt that will save the output to a file in your Documents folder.
16:06<tale>Edenkipz: Do you have a wifi adapter in your computer? Whis model?
16:07<vezult>take that file, and paste it at, for example:
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16:07<Edenkipz>Yes I have one, I'm running on inspiron 9300
16:07<vezult>also, for good measure, do: lspci > Documents/lspci.txt
16:07<vezult>and paste that as well.
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16:08<vezult>then post the address of those pastes
16:08<vezult>so we can look at them
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16:09<Edenkipz>For Dmesg
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16:10<Edenkipz> for lspci
16:11<vezult>ok, it looks like you may be missing firmware needed to run your wifi card
16:11<vezult>[ 5.546518] ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -2
16:11<Edenkipz>That's what I suspected
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16:12<Edenkipz>I'm asking for: how to configure them to work with the laptop?
16:12<vezult>so, if you aren't a Free software purist...
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16:12<vezult>you add the non-free package repository to apt
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16:13<Edenkipz>Erm how?
16:14<vezult>your apt sources should contain a line like this: deb squeeze main contrib non-free
16:14<vezult>that's /etc/apt/sources.list
16:15<vezult>it may just look like this right now: deb squeeze main
16:15<Edenkipz>Oh that
16:15<vezult>just add: non-free to the end
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16:15<Edenkipz>What's the difference?
16:16<vezult>Are you familiar with the concept of Free vs. Non-Free software?
16:16<vezult>note the capital F
16:16<vezult>Libre vs. non Libre, if you prefer
16:16<vezult>You should definitely do som reading :-)
16:17<Edenkipz>Okay I'll do that
16:17<vezult>Anyway, some software is freely modifyiable and redestributable
16:17<vezult>That's the good kind.
16:17<vezult>Other software is not.
16:18<vezult>That kind of software goes into a special non-free category
16:18<vezult>separate from the other software available for debian
16:18<vezult>All that to say..
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16:19<vezult>Some devices require some binary code which is not classified as "Free" by Debian
16:19<vezult>yours is one of them
16:19<vezult>so, if you add that repository
16:20<vezult>you can install the firmware necessary to operate your wifi card
16:20<vezult>by doing: apt-get install firmware-ipw2x00
16:21<vezult>Any reading about Free software should probably include a stop here:
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16:23<Edenkipz>Thanks, but it says that firmware doesn't have any installion candidate
16:24<sney_>Edenkipz: did you run apt-get update after editing your sources.list
16:24<Edenkipz>Oh lol forgot that
16:24<vezult>Yes, sorry, you'll have to do: apt-get update; first
16:25<Edenkipz>I'm not really a Linux guru.
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16:25<vezult>No one starts out as one.
16:26<Edenkipz>I just started using Linux two weeks ago. I fell in love with it.
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16:28<Edenkipz>Okay I installed the firmware, now what?
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16:29<sney_>Edenkipz: either reload the driver or reboot
16:30<Edenkipz>So, should that succeed in starting up the wifi capability?
16:31<Edenkipz>Oh thank you guys
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17:16<pr37>what's the rough ETA for wheezy?
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17:18<devil>roughly when it's done, as always
17:19<devil> RC bug count: 547
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17:21<pr37>ok, guess it makes no sense to wait for it before i reinstall then, eh
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17:22<retrospectacus>you can install it now but it's not "stable" just yet
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17:27<pr37>engla, thanks.
17:27<pr37>retrospectacus, yea i know. can't be more broken than my current testing system
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17:35<nightsh>HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEBIAN! \o/
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18:09<gosam>quick question : is it ok to put long text outputs in bug reports or is it better to put them in something like pastebin?
18:09<janusian>can anyone here point me to a decent tutorial for installing and testing Zend Framework on debian?
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18:10<janusian>I'm new to php frameworks and have a pre-existing LAMP setup, alongside which I would like to run Zend
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18:33<chealer>janusian: installing Zend is just a matter of installing the zendframework package
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18:39<janusian>chealer, oh so I just un-tar it and place it in my www/ directory?
18:40<janusian>I thought there was more to it, like Drupal 7 etc...
18:40<janusian>new question, how do I install the media codecs to play mkv, divx etc?
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18:46<devil>janusian: ffmpeg should have them
18:46<lacrosse1992>by default, does curl store data somewhere in debian, or does it just print out the content?
18:47<lacrosse1992>am using curl to "click" a link, but i want to make sure it is not hording away data in some location that i do not know about
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18:50<froben>ho un problema con adobe flash, è qui che posso chiedere?
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18:51<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
18:51<devil>or ask in english
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19:04<hggdh>technically, it was Italian ;-)
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19:54<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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21:02<rjsalts>I'm getting weird problems with curl, it's failing to verify certificates signed by some CAs, even though they're in /etc/ssl/certs/
21:06<rjsalts>yet openssl s_client works fine
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21:08<rjsalts> is the relevant bits of an strace
21:09<rjsalts>Is this because there is an intermediate cert that isn't in the CA bundle?
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21:15<kevin_>hey- watching flv videos on debian is all skippy
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21:18<abrotman>using whihc player?
21:20<rjsalts>It was that the intermediate certificate wasn't there
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21:20<rjsalts>is that a bug in curl?
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21:20<xtoaster>Hello, I am wheezy-xfce , i don't like the single input login screen. I'd like to input user name and password on the same screen. what should I do ?
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21:26<xtoaster>ok. pressing enter instead of tab seems to be the solution.
21:27<xtoaster>any difference between xfce-session and x-session option ?
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22:36<flashmx>hi pako
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23:14<pedebian>is wheezy in bad shape?
23:15<sney>define bad shape
23:15<pedebian>my wheezy install is crashing a lot
23:15<pedebian>2nd time today and 3rd time in two days
23:15<sney>that's what the bts is for
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23:34<Danniel-Lara>can anyone help me over postfix + dns ?
23:36<pedebian>no one helps here
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23:37<pedebian>this is the non-support channel
23:38<Danniel-Lara>is a question
23:38<pedebian>the answer is check bts
23:39<exe>Hey i have a question, is it safe to use the aircrack-ng package from sid on wheezy? anyone tried it?
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23:41<pedebian>have not tried it
23:41<sney>exe: probably
23:43<sney>pedebian: if you are experiencing repeated crashes in debian testing or sid, step 1) explain your problem in #debian-next (and not just "my wheezy is crashing", the actual issue); 2) check the BTS to see if other people have experienced the same issue and there are posted workarounds
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23:47<exe>sney: welp
23:47<exe>i just installed it, airodump werks
23:47<exe>just sayian...
23:48<exe>i dont get why they removed it
23:48<sney>sometimes packages get removed from testing for various reasons, but if they're in sid, it means that they will go back into testing once certain conditions are met
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23:49<sney>and... aircrack-ng's maintainer did not bother to submit a freeze exception
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23:53<pedebian>sney: not really sure what to search for
23:53<sney>pedebian: well, you could start with step 1
23:53<pedebian>checked /var/log/messages and don't recognize nor notice anything indicating a process freezing or crashing
23:53<exe>oh boy packets packets!
23:54<exe>gotta love my eeepc2g
23:56<exe>speaking of logs.... is it safe to remove the /var/log/installer/cdebconf files, i belive those are leftovers from the install, not sure tho
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23:57<exe>looked up here and there but nothing concrete
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