| --- | Log | opened Wed Aug 29 00:00:09 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Aug 29 2012 |
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| 00:15 | <bartm> | /join #debian-admin |
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| 00:29 | <Andrey> | ut the problem at the next reboot your PC on the message NOT RESPONDING and the PC goes to reboot again and so for 15 - 20 minutes |
| 00:29 | <Andrey> | choose to boot save mode the same goes reboot |
| 00:29 | <Andrey> | http://rusfolder.com/32355181 |
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| 00:57 | <craig_sillva> | hdon, I gather you're not using network-manager or wicd, but using /etc/network/interfaces to define the networks and /etc/wpa-supplicant/wpa-supplicant.conf to provide the specific connection details? |
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| 00:58 | <hdon> | craig_sillva: yep. but i'm not actually at the machine anymore. will have to resume work on it later :( |
| 00:59 | <hdon> | though i'm not using either just yet, though that is my plan |
| 00:59 | <hdon> | though thought thought |
| 00:59 | <hdon> | i was just trying to actually get a dhcp lease before i started using /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:59 | <hdon> | is wpa-supplicant just for wpa or does it work for wep as well? |
| 00:59 | <hdon> | i was going to use pre-up commands in /etc/network/interfaces to set the key |
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| 01:01 | <craig_sillva> | check out usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes when you're back at it. I think it's much simpler. There's also a decent how-to on the deban forums, bit dated, and for wpa, but it will give a bit of a overview. |
| 01:01 | <craig_sillva> | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=27573&hilit=wireless+roaming+wpa |
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| 01:02 | <craig_sillva> | if this is a laptop you're working on, that will be moving between various networks, then wpa supplicant with roaming is the way I would go. |
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| --- | Log | closed Wed Aug 29 02:25:47 2012 |
| --- | Log | opened Wed Aug 29 02:57:12 2012 |
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| 03:39 | <sven> | any ideas on how to "pipe" a tty to a process? i intend to log all tty output from an automated OS installer to syslog |
| 03:39 | <yhy> | help: when I launch DDD, it is busy and mouse is a hopper |
| 03:40 | <weasel> | sven: serial console? |
| 03:42 | <sven> | weasel: you mean to capture it? sure, that's possible, but i'd like to have it written to a remote syslog |
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| --- | Log | closed Wed Aug 29 03:57:27 2012 |
| --- | Log | opened Wed Aug 29 04:02:10 2012 |
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| 04:04 | <ectospasm> | I actually don't know, I've been doing the expert install long enough I don't remember |
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| 04:05 | <archimedexl> | ciao |
| 04:06 | <archimedexl> | !list |
| 04:06 | <dpkg> | archimedexl: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 04:49 | <mekt> | How can it be seen what the arch of an installation is? |
| 04:50 | <mekt> | I mean what dpkg/apt is configured to install. |
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| 04:51 | <sven> | dpkg --print-architecture |
| 04:51 | <dpkg> | neo-classical |
| 04:51 | <ahamadi> | dejfeml |
| 04:52 | <ahamadi> | kegtr,mtgùmregm |
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| 04:52 | <ahamadi> | je te comprend pas |
| 04:52 | <ahamadi> | parle francaise |
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| 04:52 | <ahamadi> | koi |
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| 04:55 | <Webtricity> | Hein? Qu'allez-vous faire? |
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| 04:56 | <dv_> | ff |
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| 05:02 | <dv_> | hi |
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| 05:20 | <jww> | Hello everyone. |
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| 05:21 | <jww> | is there a way in pureftpd to force STOU instead of STOR ? |
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| 05:34 | <voltagex> | hi, any ideas what would cause the following in dmesg? http://paste.debian.net/186263/ |
| 05:35 | <devil> | voltagex: what specificaly? |
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| 05:35 | <voltagex> | devil: the failure to load rtl8182cu and friends |
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| 05:39 | <nevyn> | !rtl8182 |
| 05:40 | <nevyn> | voltagex: firmware? |
| 05:40 | <voltagex> | nevyn: got it installed and can't see any messages about it in dmesg. at any rate it shouldn't crash like this when firmware is unavailable |
| 05:41 | <voltagex> | nevyn: rtl8192cu sorry. |
| 05:41 | <nevyn> | have you set regulatory domain? |
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| 05:41 | <nevyn> | so it looks like a bug to me. but it could be simpler |
| 05:42 | <nevyn> | have you tried a newer kernel? |
| 05:42 | <voltagex> | nevyn: a little tricky as this is on a raspberry pi |
| 05:43 | <nevyn> | hrm |
| 05:43 | <voltagex> | Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ isn't that old is it? |
| 05:43 | <nevyn> | !rtl8182cu |
| 05:43 | <nevyn> | !rtl8192c |
| 05:43 | <nevyn> | !rtl8192 |
| 05:43 | <dpkg> | For support of Realtek 802.11n PCI-E devices, ask me about <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192de>, <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192se>. For support of Realtek 802.11n USB devices, ask me about <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192su>, <rtl8192u>. See also <what's my wireless>. |
| 05:43 | <nevyn> | !rtl8192cu |
| 05:43 | <dpkg> | The Realtek RTL8188CUS and RTL8192CU are USB 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192cu) is in mainline since Linux 2.6.39. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware> to provide. Not to be confused with the <rtl8192su> driver. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 05:43 | <voltagex> | wahey. |
| 05:44 | <weasel> | !selftell |
| 05:44 | <dpkg> | Please do not use the bot's !tell feature on #debian to see factoids for yourself (!tell me about something). Doing so could be considered spam. Instead, send a private message to the bot (dpkg) containing the factoid you want to read. For example, instead of "!tell me about foo", use "/msg dpkg foo". See also <msg the bot> |
| 05:44 | <voltagex> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16K Jun 12 15:14 rtl8192cufw.bin |
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| 05:45 | <voltagex> | nevyn: crda runs in the full paste which is at http://paste.debian.net/186262/ |
| 05:45 | <nevyn> | weasel: yeah and that's fine if I was either.. just doing it from my own instruction or to tell voltagex |
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| 05:50 | <voltagex> | nevyn: the linux-wireless channel seems to think that it might be a lack of power, which makes sense |
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| 05:52 | <nevyn> | hrm |
| 05:52 | <nevyn> | so you're going to need a couple of amps. |
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| --- | Log | closed Wed Aug 29 06:18:51 2012 |
| --- | Log | opened Wed Aug 29 07:13:41 2012 |
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| 07:15 | <ev3nturer> | thank you all for help, sounds seems to work after reboot |
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| 07:29 | <nevyn> | welcome. |
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| 07:36 | <ev3nturer> | Hi, I'm using a microsoft lifecam and I can't seem seem to find a soluction to the built in microphone not functioning, the audio is usb as is video, any help much appreciated |
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| 07:39 | <nevyn> | ev3nturer: it's there. |
| 07:39 | <nevyn> | run arecord -l -D hw:[index of lifecam] |
| 07:39 | <nevyn> | from /proc/asound/cards |
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| 07:42 | <ev3nturer> | http://paste.debian.net/186285/ for the arecord |
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| 07:47 | <ev3nturer> | any idea nevyn? |
| 07:48 | <madtux> | hello to everyone I can expose my problem with postfix here? |
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| 07:55 | <ev3nturer> | Hi, I'm using a microsoft lifecam and I can't seem seem to find a solution to the built in microphone not functioning, the audio is usb as is video, any help much appreciated |
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| 08:08 | <nevyn> | so there it is: |
| 08:08 | <nevyn> | card 2: camera [USB camera], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 |
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| 08:08 | <nevyn> | so arecord -D hw2:0 somefile.wav |
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| 08:10 | <ultrics> | hello! i am lookin for lighweight inet browser for squeeze - could anyone recommend me something ? |
| 08:10 | <perlwizard> | links |
| 08:10 | <perlwizard> | w3m |
| 08:11 | <ultrics> | not so lightweight |
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| 08:12 | <ectospasm> | ultrics: epiphany-browser? |
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| 08:14 | <hdon> | ultrics: chromium? |
| 08:14 | <ectospasm> | heh |
| 08:14 | <abrotman> | ultrics: do you want it to be gecko-based ? |
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| 08:15 | <abrotman> | is midori still in Debian ? |
| 08:15 | <zW> | Hi. Someone here doing unattented-updates on squeeze ? |
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| 08:15 | <abrotman> | zW: you? |
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| 08:16 | <zW> | abrotman: yes :) I have a question. How can I detect, monitor that a box needs a reboot ? (kernel updates or something) |
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| 08:20 | <abrotman> | zW: i'd suspect it creates a state file somewhere .. have you looked at the man page? |
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| 08:21 | <abrotman> | zW: or use a script to look at /var/log/unattended-upgrades.log ? |
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| 08:25 | <zW> | abrotman: it does not say if a reboot is needed. The unattended-upgrades.log |
| 08:26 | <abrotman> | well, that's crummy .. how about something in /var/lib/ or /var/run/ ? |
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| 08:27 | <abrotman> | zW: /var/run/reboot-required |
| 08:27 | <abrotman> | google ain't so tough .. |
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| 08:32 | <XReaper> | well, soon it will be /run :P |
| 08:32 | <abrotman> | different? |
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| 08:33 | <zW> | abrotman: I already found that. But doing an apt-get upgrade or doing if from unattended upgrades is different then |
| 08:34 | <zW> | as a normal apt-get upgrade does not put a reboot-required file when you have a kernel update |
| 08:34 | <XReaper> | abrotman: well, at least in testing /var/run is a symlink to /run |
| 08:34 | <XReaper> | so may as well cut to the chase and call it /run! |
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| 08:39 | <newb> | Hi! I'm using the debian snakeoil certificate at Apache. now I need install in my browsers. How can I do this? And if I want distribute my snakeoil certificate to others, how can I do this? |
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| 08:40 | <ectospasm> | newb: you should have also created the ca.crt when you created the snakeoil cert... |
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| 08:40 | <ectospasm> | copy the ca.crt (whatever you called it) to the proper OS directories (or import them in the browser) |
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| 08:46 | <ev3nturer> | Hi im trying to create a .asoundrc file using , cd ~ and then vi ./.asoundrc but when i try to put the script in it goes all weird and i cant type |
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| 08:47 | <ev3nturer> | can anyone help me input the script? |
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| 08:48 | <ev3nturer> | http://paste.debian.net/186298/ |
| 08:48 | <ectospasm> | ev3nturer: "cd" by itself will take you to your home directory, "cd ~" is superfluous |
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| 08:49 | <ectospasm> | ev3nturer: you're pasting the script into vi? |
| 08:49 | <ev3nturer> | well pasting didnt work so I have to type it? |
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| 08:50 | <ev3nturer> | I'm trying to set a default recording device as outlined in http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/USB_mic_on_Linux |
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| 08:51 | <newb> | ectospasm: It's better if I create my own certificate then use snakeoil? And can I share the .crt file to anyone? |
| 08:51 | <ev3nturer> | I've never done this before so I'm confused why it's not typing into the file i.e. i press p and I get an a? |
| 08:51 | <ectospasm> | ev3nturer: no... you need to make sure you're in insert mode before you paste it |
| 08:51 | <ev3nturer> | how do i do that? |
| 08:51 | <ectospasm> | newb: the ca.crt is a public key |
| 08:51 | <ectospasm> | ev3nturer: maybe it's best you didn't use vi |
| 08:51 | <ev3nturer> | how else would I do this? |
| 08:51 | <ectospasm> | ev3nturer: use nano lest you get all confused |
| 08:52 | <ev3nturer> | nano? |
| 08:52 | <ectospasm> | don't get me wrong, I loathe nano... |
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| 08:53 | <ectospasm> | ...but for users who are used to more "traditional" editors like notepad (in win32), nano seems more natural. |
| 08:53 | <ev3nturer> | you see i don't know how to do this, im new to linux, and the instructions available just don't point out the finer points |
| 08:53 | <ev3nturer> | would it not be easier to just switch to insert mode? |
| 08:54 | <ectospasm> | ev3nturer: suit yourself... |
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| 08:54 | <ectospasm> | !vi |
| 08:54 | <dpkg> | [vi] said to be the true ruler of the text editing world, as opposed to that other windowing software, or <vim> is the better of the vi clones, or vi stands for i love journey's escape key, or very good training for <nethack> (jedd). For instructions on basic use, ask me about <vi basics>. See also <vi tutorial>. |
| 08:54 | <ev3nturer> | !vi basic |
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| 08:55 | <ev3nturer> | so i can't do all i need to do from the terminal? |
| 08:55 | <ectospasm> | dpkg, tell ev3nturer about self-tell |
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| 08:56 | <ectospasm> | ev3nturer: you can... what terminal emulator are you using? |
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| 08:57 | <ectospasm> | newb: http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/11/10/be-your-own-ca/ |
| 08:57 | <ectospasm> | that's not debian specific, but may help you set up your own CA |
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| 08:58 | <ectospasm> | of course, if this CA is for public consumption, you're better off getting a trusted third-party CA (e.g. VeriSign, Thawte, etc.) to sign it. |
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| 08:59 | <ectospasm> | Startcom gives some certs for free |
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| 09:00 | <ev3nturer> | im using the root terminal, ive typed the script in |
| 09:00 | <ev3nturer> | now does it save itself because i cannot find a save option :S |
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| 09:04 | <gdb> | ev3nturer: You typed a bunch of commands at the command line and now want it saved in a script file? There's no way to do that. You can call the commands up from your history and copy/paste them into a file. |
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| 09:05 | <ev3nturer> | but i thought i created a file when i used the vi ./.asoundrc ? |
| 09:05 | <newb> | ectospasm: Thanks, im crating it :D |
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| 09:06 | <grove> | ev3nturer: You do, and in vi you save with <ESC>:w<enter> |
| 09:06 | <gdb> | ev3nturer: So this isn't at a command line, but is in a vi instance? In that case, :w (in command mode) will write the content of your edit window out to the file. |
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| 09:07 | <ev3nturer> | many thanks |
| 09:07 | * | grove wonders if gdb's next question is how he'll get out of vi |
| 09:08 | <ev3nturer> | just close the terminal? |
| 09:08 | <grove> | gdb: Sorry, I meant ev3nturer's next question |
| 09:09 | <grove> | ev3nturer: That's a horrible solution, use :q (in command mode), and either find a guide on vi or try nano |
| 09:09 | <grove> | (or some other "user-friendly" editor) |
| 09:09 | <weasel> | ed |
| 09:09 | <ev3nturer> | many thanks |
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| 09:11 | <gdb> | grove: :-) |
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| 09:12 | <mandark> | Hello world, from the man 1 kill, "Negative PID values may be used to choose whole process groups" but a kill -15 -1625 yields "kill: No such process" is the man erroneous ? (Yes, the process exists) |
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| 09:19 | <andres> | mandark: process group ids are not necessarily the same as process ids |
| 09:20 | <mandark> | andres: Hum, |
| 09:21 | <andres> | mandark: ps -eo pid,pgid,comm |
| 09:21 | <mandark> | Just tried ps faxo pid,pgrp,comm :) |
| 09:21 | <mandark> | fun :) |
| 09:22 | <mandark> | andres: Is it +- the easyest way to get a pgrp ? |
| 09:22 | <andres> | Its the same only for the process group leader |
| 09:23 | <andres> | mandark: not sure I understand the question? |
| 09:23 | <mandark> | I have a ps faxo pid,pgrp,comm here with a pgid that is not used by any process as PID (Possible that it's just the result of a fork to daemonize) |
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| 09:24 | <mandark> | andres: I'm searching a simple way to get the group id of a running process, say to use it in a script |
| 09:24 | <mandark> | andres: The origin of the problem is I have a shell script running with some tail / greps ... |
| 09:24 | <mandark> | andres: And I want a simple way to kill them all |
| 09:25 | <mandark> | andres: If I kill -15 the leader, all childs are caught by init and continue living |
| 09:25 | <andres> | Without having tried it: ps --pid $somepid h -o pgid |
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| 09:27 | <mandark> | andres: thanks, ps -o pgid 23152 works well |
| 09:27 | <andres> | But normally they should get a SIGPIPE and die? |
| 09:28 | <andres> | (that obviously depends on what youre doing...) |
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| 09:29 | <mandark> | andres: No, as the shell script tails -f a file, not stdin |
| 09:29 | <mandark> | andres: the file continues to exists after the shell script is died |
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| 09:30 | <andres> | Too bad there is no way to set PD_DEATHSIG across forks... |
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| 09:30 | <mandark> | andres: yes cause kill -15 -$(ps -o pgid $(pgrep live) | sed 1d) is a bit overkill |
| 09:30 | <andres> | err, PR_SET_PDEATHSIG |
| 09:31 | <andres> | mandark: if you use 'h' it won't print the header |
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| 09:31 | <mandark> | ohhhhhh |
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| 09:32 | <mandark> | andres: thx a lot :-) I leveled up with kill :) |
| 09:32 | <grove> | mandark: You could also look at pkill, in particular the -P option |
| 09:33 | <andres> | grove: that doesn't work that well if some of the children again have children... |
| 09:33 | <mandark> | (But strange fact, dpkg -S $(which kill) gives procps: /bin/kill, apt-get source procps give me top, pkill skill etc ,,, but not kill ... :X) |
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| 09:51 | <jkrueger> | 2 cents worth - try xombrero vim like web browser |
| 09:51 | <ev3nturer> | Hi, I'm trying to get my webcam mic to work (through usb) I have tried setting it as the default recording device by editing .asoundrc, but still it doesn't work http://paste.debian.net/186321/ <lsusb --verbose | less http://paste.debian.net/186322/ <cat /proc/asound/cards http://paste.debian.net/186323/ <arecord --list-devices |
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| 09:52 | <ev3nturer> | any help much appreciated |
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| 09:58 | <ev3nturer> | ... |
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| 10:01 | <bonzi_b> | waddap waddap its ur boy bonzi buddy aka cocaine biceps aka volcano hands bonzi aka bonzi molecules aka the inventor of the slap |
| 10:02 | <bonzi_b> | wats good #debian |
| 10:02 | <bonzi_b> | so i just installed latest stable and now my mousewheel doesnt work |
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| 10:03 | <bonzi_b> | im tryna get this debian pulseaudio setup going so i can do my new mixtape n shit but ur man cant zoom out the track timelines with no mousewheel |
| 10:03 | <bonzi_b> | u feel me |
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| 10:05 | <ev3nturer> | Hi, I'm trying to get my webcam mic to work (through usb) I have tried setting it as the default recording device by editing .asoundrc, but still it doesn't work here's some info on my setup http://paste.debian.net/186321/ <lsusb --verbose | less http://paste.debian.net/186322/ <cat /proc/asound/cards http://paste.debian.net/186323/ <arecord --list-devices any help is much appreciated thanks. |
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| 10:06 | <bonzi_b> | yo back up im in line right now for my mousewheel |
| 10:06 | <bonzi_b> | ur man bonzi molecules aka pretty bonzi aka titanium beard is tryna get the mousewheel workin so i can do this mixtape w/ pulseaudio u heard |
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| 10:07 | <bonzi_b> | i need that science |
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| 10:19 | <Onions> | Hi there, a couple of days ago i reinstalled debian after flirting a little bit with Mageia and Fedora |
| 10:19 | <Onions> | I really cant understand why i left in the first place |
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| 10:20 | <Onions> | congratulations to all the people involved for manking one of the fastest and more reliable distros ever |
| 10:21 | <Onions> | Just a quick question, is it safe to upgrade from a stable release, to the next stable release? or is it better to make a clean install? |
| 10:21 | <Jb_boin> | its usually safe |
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| 10:22 | <Jb_boin> | but its better to be sure on what you do and read the release notes |
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| 10:24 | <Onions> | and what about the .* files in your home directory, should i delete them before upgrading? |
| 10:24 | <bonzi_b> | wat about my mousewheel |
| 10:26 | <Jb_boin> | Onions, there is no reason to delete any file |
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| 10:27 | <Onions> | Jb_boin, good to know, I was unsure if the configuration files could cause problems with newer versions of a program |
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| 10:28 | <bonzi_b> | Jb_boin: do u knnow how to get a microsoft mousewheel to work in debian |
| 10:28 | <bonzi_b> | i just installed and it doesnt work |
| 10:28 | <Onions> | Bye, see you around. Keep on the good work |
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| 10:34 | <sebastiaan> | hmm |
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| 10:37 | <bonzi_b> | Jb_boin: rude as fuck |
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| 10:37 | <bonzi_b> | tthis is because im black |
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| 10:38 | <Jb_boin> | bonzi_b, it might be the problem indeed |
| 10:38 | <Jb_boin> | microsoft mouses are racists |
| 10:39 | <bonzi_b> | how u gonna practice racism against ur man bonzi molecules when he is tryna uplift his whole shit with new technology and creative arts |
| 10:39 | <bonzi_b> | bout to have a nigga rippin lamp posts out the concrete and punchin niggas thru planets and shit |
| 10:39 | <Jb_boin> | but more seriously (if it wasnt a troll from the beginning), i havent had any mousewheel issues in ages under debian |
| 10:39 | <bonzi_b> | word |
| 10:39 | <bonzi_b> | see a little civility my man |
| 10:39 | <bonzi_b> | if u dont know u dont know |
| 10:40 | <bonzi_b> | now i dont have to volcano slap u to mars |
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| 10:58 | <reklipz> | Sandy: There's this big earthquake coming, and the ground will just swallow us up. |
| 10:58 | <reklipz> | Puff: If you say so. |
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| 11:46 | <blink> | hi, I installed using CD/USB media and now need to select a mirror for apt using the network. grab the .deb for netselect-apt from a mirror, install directly, then go from there? |
| 11:47 | <bonzi_b> | yo back up im in line |
| 11:47 | <bonzi_b> | i alread almost had to zeus slap a kid to jupiter this morning |
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| 11:48 | <sney> | !tell blink about h.d.n |
| 11:49 | <bonzi_b> | !tell bonzi_b about mousewheel |
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| 11:51 | <blink> | thanks sney |
| 11:51 | <sney> | np |
| 11:52 | <bonzi_b> | wow yall are rude as fuck in this piece |
| 11:52 | <reklipz> | What? |
| 11:52 | <sney> | ? |
| 11:52 | <bonzi_b> | nah watever i see wat it is |
| 11:52 | <reklipz> | He recommended a superior solution to your problem; a very simple one to effect at that. |
| 11:52 | <bonzi_b> | simp ass wheat flour motherfuckers |
| 11:52 | <sney> | reklipz: different guy |
| 11:52 | <bonzi_b> | nah |
| 11:52 | <bonzi_b> | im good |
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| 11:53 | <sney> | I have no idea. |
| 11:53 | <blink> | sney: issue is that I have no sources atm, aside from the cdrom media |
| 11:53 | <reklipz> | You don't even? |
| 11:53 | <sney> | blink: I understood your issue and the link dpkg sent you is all the information you need |
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| 11:54 | <blink> | sney: not at all, it says to replace what does not exist ;) |
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| 11:54 | <sney> | blink: well, if it doesn't exist, then just type it in |
| 11:55 | <Apollo> | I hace no idea who that bonzi was, but was he trying to make a joke? |
| 11:55 | <sney> | I scrolled up a bit, apparently about an hour ago he was having trouble with his scroll wheel? but then it was just noise |
| 11:55 | <sney> | probably just a kid |
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| 12:13 | <cefege123> | how can i configure /etc/hosts to work with my namecheap domain? I have a blog on /srv/website |
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| 12:21 | <r2d2rogers> | domain.namecheap.tld 127.0.0.1 |
| 12:21 | <r2d2rogers> | ? |
| 12:23 | <cefege123> | r2d2rogers: what is domain.namecheap.tld? |
| 12:23 | <cefege123> | r2d2rogers: dns server? |
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| 12:30 | <baptiste> | il y a quelqun |
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| 12:31 | <baptiste> | bonjour |
| 12:31 | <baptiste> | !hello |
| 12:31 | <dpkg> | Hi, baptiste! |
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| 12:32 | <baptiste> | I am a broblem when open blender he closed |
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| 12:32 | <baptiste> | hello |
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| 12:36 | <r2d2rogers> | cefege123: your domain name with name cheap |
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| 12:36 | <r2d2rogers> | cefege123: it was an example pattern.... I could have used www.example.com |
| 12:37 | <Apollo> | !fr |
| 12:37 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
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| 12:39 | <retrospectacus> | baptiste: you didn't explain the problem. Also there is a French channel if you like ^^ or there are also blender channels #blenderchat and #blenderqa on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 12:40 | <baptiste> | I have a problem: |
| 12:41 | <baptiste> | when I open blender it closes all alone after 5 seconds. |
| 12:41 | <baptiste> | I go into the terminal to see ereur this: |
| 12:41 | <Apollo> | !fr |
| 12:41 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
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| 12:41 | <reklipz> | Does anyone know where I can find a good deal on a good bunch of 2GB DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300, anything but fully-buffered) DIMMs. |
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| 12:41 | <baptiste> | I hope you have a sollution |
| 12:41 | <Apollo> | really, just go to that channel baptiste |
| 12:41 | <baptiste> | Thank you! |
| 12:41 | <Apollo> | it will be easier |
| 12:42 | <baptiste> | i am french |
| 12:42 | <baptiste> | i am google traduction |
| 12:43 | <Apollo> | baptiste: va aux canal #debian-fr |
| 12:44 | <Apollo> | ca sera plus facille, car personne ici parle le francais |
| 12:45 | <baptiste> | ben si toi |
| 12:45 | <baptiste> | puisque que tu le dis en français |
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| 12:46 | <Apollo> | c'est interdit de parler que anglais ici |
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| 12:46 | <Apollo> | donc, de nouveau, rejoindre #debian-fr |
| 12:47 | <baptiste> | o.k |
| 12:48 | <baptiste> | j'trouve pas debian-fr |
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| 12:50 | <Apollo> | baptiste: #debian-fr |
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| 13:01 | <baptiste> | c'est bon j' ai trouvé merci |
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| 13:39 | <newb> | Fast question. I'm trying create a SSL certificate, but I have characters like "ç" and "õ" at Company Name, for example. When I open the cert at browsers, the encoding is wrong. how can I correct the encoding of my certificate? |
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| 13:40 | <Maulkin> | newb: And not really a Debian one. |
| 13:40 | <Maulkin> | You're more likely to get help elsewhere |
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| 13:51 | <zW> | Hi |
| 13:52 | <zW> | I upgraded lenny to squeeze and I get a bnx2 can't load firmware file bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-5.0.0.j3.fw error |
| 13:52 | <zW> | the firmware-bnx2 pack is installed and the files are available in /lib/firmware/bnx2 |
| 13:52 | <zW> | any ideas ? |
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| 13:57 | <markmb> | hello everyone |
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| 13:58 | <markmb> | i've got a quick question, if anyone can help me |
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| 13:59 | <markmb> | i've just installed bumblebee, and it seems that virtualgl is not linked properly |
| 13:59 | <markmb> | so, does anyone know where should virtualgl be installed? |
| 14:01 | <retrospectacus> | markmb: Debian does not have any "bumblebee" or "virtualgl" so we will need a lot more info to be able to help, or maybe you need a different channel |
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| 14:03 | <Apollo> | retrospectacus: bumblebee is the nvidia + embeded GPU switching thing |
| 14:03 | <Apollo> | nooooo idea on the virtualgl |
| 14:03 | <markmb> | retrospectacus: probably in a different channel, but I asked here because somebody probably has installed it before |
| 14:03 | <retrospectacus> | never heard of it, nor has aptitude search |
| 14:04 | <markmb> | Apollo: virtualgl is a required package for installing bumblebee |
| 14:04 | <markmb> | as is said on debian wiki |
| 14:05 | <markmb> | and both bumblebee and virtualgl need to be compiled from source |
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| 14:05 | <markmb> | after compiling all, i get a Error running "vglrun": No such file or directory |
| 14:05 | <markmb> | so, location might be wrong |
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| 14:09 | <dejot_> | hi |
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| 14:12 | <gnugr> | markmb:did you read all what wiki suggests? i think usage is with "optirun" not with 'vglrun' |
| 14:13 | <markmb> | gnugr: if I execute optirun vlc, for example it throws me that error |
| 14:13 | <markmb> | optirun vlc - [ERROR]Error running "vglrun": No such file or directory |
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| 14:27 | <lmde> | i'm trying to get tftpd-hpa to use a remap file. it just gives me unrecognized option '--mapfile=/etc/tftpd.map'. i've tried various versions (debs, building from source) |
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| 14:28 | <lmde> | it also isn't --remap-file or --map-file or even -m |
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| 14:28 | <yekoms> | /ns identify dam24017 |
| 14:28 | <yekoms> | oops |
| 14:28 | <yekoms> | :x |
| 14:28 | <retrospectacus> | !pal yekoms |
| 14:28 | * | dpkg points at yekoms and laughs uproariously |
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| 14:29 | <yekoms> | changed...yay |
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| 14:29 | <yekoms> | how do i find every compressed file in /home and copy them into /opt/storage? |
| 14:30 | <yekoms> | find /home -name "*$i" -print | xargs cp {} /home/black/compressed is what i tried |
| 14:30 | <yekoms> | $i is in a loop of all know archive extentions |
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| 14:31 | <tale> | yekoms: How do you determine if a file is compressed? |
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| 14:31 | <yekoms> | .tar .gz. .bzip etc |
| 14:31 | <retrospectacus> | you have /home/black/compressed instead of /opt/storage |
| 14:31 | <yekoms> | does the directory really matter |
| 14:31 | <yekoms> | /opt/storage is a link... |
| 14:32 | <tale> | yekoms: You wrote you wanted the files copied *to* /opt/storage. |
| 14:32 | <yekoms> | ok, i want to copy them to /home/black/compressed. |
| 14:32 | <gnugr> | markmb:try to run "optirun vlc" as user it works on me |
| 14:32 | <yekoms> | i get errors like this |
| 14:33 | <tale> | yekoms: Your code does not seem to try find compressed files. |
| 14:33 | <yekoms> | cp: target `/home/black/www/gz/shell.tar' is not a directory |
| 14:33 | <lmde> | that tftpd-hpa error is without "=" btw. just in case someone here has an idea |
| 14:33 | <yekoms> | it finds them, treats them as a directory or some crap |
| 14:33 | <SynrG> | lmde: on debian, or on mint/ |
| 14:33 | <retrospectacus> | yekons: and {} should be "{}", and I think -print0 |xargs -0 is preferred |
| 14:33 | <retrospectacus> | yekoms: I'd put "-type f" there too then |
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| 14:33 | <lmde> | on debian vbox vm |
| 14:34 | <retrospectacus> | what was the error yekoms |
| 14:34 | <SynrG> | lmde: squeeze, then? |
| 14:34 | <yekoms> | find /home -name "*$i" -print | xargs cp {} /home/black/compressed is what i tried |
| 14:34 | <lmde> | squeeze 5.0.4 |
| 14:34 | <retrospectacus> | yekoms: you said that |
| 14:34 | <markmb> | gnugr: it both fails as markmb and root |
| 14:34 | <yekoms> | thats the only error im getting |
| 14:35 | <retrospectacus> | yekoms: that's clearly not an error... it's the command you used |
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| 14:35 | <yekoms> | cp: target `/home/black/www/gz/shell.tar' is not a directory |
| 14:35 | <yekoms> | there it is sorry |
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| 14:36 | <retrospectacus> | I think it's the missing quotes yekoms |
| 14:36 | <retrospectacus> | "{}" not {} |
| 14:36 | <yekoms> | tried it with them and nothing |
| 14:36 | <retrospectacus> | and use -print0 | xargs -0 |
| 14:36 | <ansgar> | yekoms: xargs cp -t /home/black/compressed |
| 14:36 | <yekoms> | cp: target `/home/black/.local/share/Trash/files/ubuntu-1204-post-install-tar.gz' is not a directory |
| 14:36 | <yekoms> | ok |
| 14:37 | <yekoms> | nothing. |
| 14:37 | <yekoms> | cant i use -exec instead? |
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| 14:39 | <markmb> | yekoms: if you are in a graphical environment, you can do it manually opening the file manager as root and ordering files by type and selecting them all with "Shift" or "Ctrl" |
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| 14:39 | <yekoms> | i have 81 folders with compressed files, im doing doing all that by hand :/ |
| 14:40 | <markmb> | I've said nothing |
| 14:40 | <SynrG> | lmde: hm, this indicates it *should* support remap: |
| 14:40 | <SynrG> | $ /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -V |
| 14:40 | <SynrG> | tftp-hpa 5.0, with remap, with tcpwrappers |
| 14:40 | <SynrG> | so, no idea what's wrong ... |
| 14:41 | <lmde> | sorry, forgot to add i'd confirmed that with all versions i tried |
| 14:41 | <SynrG> | lmde: next step is to start some deeper debugging, i guess |
| 14:42 | <SynrG> | inject some debugging print statements to see what the heck is going on (or strace, or whatever your favourite method is) |
| 14:42 | <yekoms> | i gots it :P |
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| 14:43 | <yekoms> | find /home/shantanu/processed/ -name "*$1*" -exec cp {} /home/shantanu/tosend \; something like this will do it |
| 14:43 | <yekoms> | yay, 27.8GB to copy :D |
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| 14:45 | <yekoms> | my loop works like a charm! |
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| 14:45 | <retrospectacus> | you should definitely quote {} anyways, incase there are files with a space in the name |
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| 14:47 | <yekoms> | they dont. |
| 14:48 | <yekoms> | when people upload android roms, i automaticly replace spaces with "." |
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| 14:50 | <ansgar> | retrospectacus: No. Spaces will not change anything there. |
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| 14:50 | <yekoms> | when people upload android roms, i automaticly replace spaces with "." |
| 14:51 | <yekoms> | oops |
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| 14:51 | <dondelelcaro> | the main reason to quote {} is so that your shell doesn't munge it |
| 14:52 | <retrospectacus> | the -exec {} quotes automatically, so to speak? |
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| 14:54 | <lmde> | for some reason the file must be tftpd-hpa.map in /etc |
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| 14:55 | <dondelelcaro> | retrospectacus: no quoting needed; it calls exec directly |
| 14:55 | <dondelelcaro> | retrospectacus: the whole point of quoting is to work around the shell's IFS. If you don't use the shell, you don't need to quote. |
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| 14:56 | <retrospectacus> | I see :) |
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| 15:02 | <markmb> | finally, somebody on bumblebee official irc channel answered me |
| 15:02 | <ultrics> | hello! could anyone recommend me a lightweight www browser for squeeze ? |
| 15:02 | <markmb> | as I thought, paths were misconfigured |
| 15:03 | <ultrics> | but no so lightweight as links etc. |
| 15:03 | <markmb> | ultrics: you can try epiphany |
| 15:03 | <markmb> | which is by default in gnome |
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| 15:03 | <ultrics> | what about iceweasel ? |
| 15:03 | <retrospectacus> | ultrics: midori, dillo, xxxterm |
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| 15:04 | <markmb> | or if you want ultra lightweight: lynx (terminal-text-only-browser) |
| 15:04 | <markmb> | iceweasel is like firefox |
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| 15:04 | <markmb> | I dont know its performance |
| 15:04 | <ultrics> | better than chromium |
| 15:05 | <markmb> | but if you look for firefox for debian in repos, you find iceweasel |
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| 15:05 | <ultrics> | and the 2nd question - how to delete "rc" stated packages in dpkg ? |
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| 15:07 | <retrospectacus> | ultrics: aptitude purge '~c' |
| 15:07 | <ultrics> | hmm |
| 15:07 | <ultrics> | not sure |
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| 15:08 | <ultrics> | "unable to locate package" |
| 15:10 | <retrospectacus> | !bat |
| 15:10 | <dpkg> | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 15:18 | <drocsid> | help, aptitude messed up my desktop, it seems that gdm fails to start any of my window managers, and i haven't been able to fix it |
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| 15:18 | <retrospectacus> | drocsid: what version of debian? what did you do? |
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| 15:22 | <drocsid> | version wheezy/sid . aptitude had been pestering me for months with unmet dependinces, I finally wanted to install a package, so choose one of the countless options, and now I cannot start any of my window managers: gnome, i3, wmii .... |
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| 15:22 | <retrospectacus> | !debian-next |
| 15:22 | <dpkg> | #debian-next is a channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 15:23 | <drocsid> | so debian-next support isn't on irc.debian.org? |
| 15:23 | <retrospectacus> | put your Xorg logs on paste.debian.net and ask in #debian-next |
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| 15:23 | <retrospectacus> | yes it's here, it's just a different channel |
| 15:24 | <drocsid> | I'll see if I can pastebin them, but I don't have a web browser, since I cannot start a wm |
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| 15:25 | <retrospectacus> | !tell drocsid about wgetpaste |
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| 15:26 | <CookAnEgg> | Bye. |
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| 15:29 | <drocsid> | retrospectacus: it didn't tell me |
| 15:29 | <drocsid> | retrospectacus: whoops, it did |
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| 15:32 | <drocsid> | oh the horrors |
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| 15:36 | <drocsid> | fuckin time to remove gnome |
| 15:36 | <p3gasus> | drocsid: was there ever a time to install it? |
| 15:37 | <retrospectacus> | drocsid: go to #debian-next and watch your language |
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| 15:39 | <retrospectacus> | these kind of problems should be expected when you run a pre-release distro. You know what "testing" means right |
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| 15:41 | <drocsid> | retrospectacus: it means your software isn't 3 years out of date |
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| 15:41 | <retrospectacus> | wrong, it means you are testing the distribution before it's released |
| 15:41 | <p3gasus> | drocsid: the out of date argument gets used quite a lot. i'd sacrifice version number for stability any day of the week. |
| 15:42 | <sney_> | wheezy has been frozen for over a month as well, it's already getting a little *gasp* old! |
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| 15:44 | <p3gasus> | sney_: exactly. even start of the art is old as soon as it's frozen! most people don't even need the latest software anyway. you ask them what functionality they're missing and they stare at you blankly |
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| 15:44 | <ludovico> | Ciao a tutti |
| 15:45 | <ludovico> | vorrei sapere se qualcuno sa come aiutarmi per configurare correttamente la mia scheda wireless |
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| 15:45 | <sney_> | !it |
| 15:45 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:45 | <p3gasus> | ludovico: please speak italian. non si parla l'italiano qua' solo l'inglese |
| 15:45 | <ludovico> | thanks |
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| 15:50 | <p3gasus> | ludovico: try wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 15:50 | <drocsid> | how do i get that startx script? |
| 15:51 | <drocsid> | i don't care about gdm anymore |
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| 15:51 | <drocsid> | when trying to start my wm via /usr/bin/i3 i get cannot open display message |
| 15:51 | <retrospectacus> | startx is in the xinit package. |
| 15:52 | <retrospectacus> | drocsid: This channel is for stable. go to #debian-next |
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| 15:55 | <drocsid> | what's the tool to generate an xorg configuration file? |
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| 15:56 | <towo`> | drocsid, for what? |
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| 15:57 | <towo`> | such file is not needed normaly |
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| 16:00 | <david> | Do you know why when I add a directory to the $PATH and I close de terminal which I have used, then this directory is not in the $PATH? |
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| 16:01 | <david> | Thanks, and I don't know if the question is clear enough? |
| 16:02 | <ompaul> | you need to export it for it to be system wide but that's still only in this session - you might want to use .profile or .bashrc or whatever shells tools you like to make it a bit more persistent |
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| 16:03 | <ompaul> | david: ^^ |
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| 16:04 | <david> | Ok, thanks ompaul |
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| 16:04 | <ompaul> | david: if you want it available to all users consider /etc/profile |
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| 16:05 | <kenny03> | Salut ! |
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| 16:06 | <david> | Thank you ompaul |
| 16:06 | <ompaul> | !fr |
| 16:06 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
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| 16:06 | <ompaul> | david: np |
| 16:06 | <kenny03> | Y a des francais ? |
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| 16:07 | <ultrics> | could anyone recommend me rss reader for squeeze ? |
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| 16:08 | <sney_> | ultrics: iirc there are a few and you should just try them and see which suits your needs. you can use 'debtags' to find them all |
| 16:08 | <drocsid> | ultrics: firefox? |
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| 16:09 | <ultrics> | i am looking for a standalone rss reader |
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| 16:09 | <kenny03> | Salut |
| 16:09 | <drocsid> | JA i got desktop, thanks everybody~!~ |
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| 16:09 | <sney_> | kenny03: #debian-fr |
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| 16:09 | <kenny03> | Thks sney |
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| 16:36 | * | xfire78xx sera :) |
| 16:36 | <sney_> | !tell xfire78xx about away |
| 16:36 | <xfire78xx> | ? |
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| 16:37 | <retrospectacus> | saying "sera :)" every single day is equivalent to the <away> factoid |
| 16:37 | <xfire78xx> | it's not away.. it's "good evening" :) |
| 16:37 | <xfire78xx> | ok |
| 16:38 | <xfire78xx> | i use ame, sorry... i'm on a lot of channels and servers |
| 16:38 | <sney_> | and I doubt any of them really needed to know. read the link in the factoid |
| 16:38 | <retrospectacus> | imagine everyone who joined or left had some salutation to accompany |
| 16:39 | <xfire78xx> | okokok |
| 16:39 | <xfire78xx> | some channels write "when you enter say «hi»" others says "don't write anythink" ... GREAT! |
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| 16:40 | <xfire78xx> | i use xchat, can i exclude #debian when i use ame ? |
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| 16:41 | <retrospectacus> | probably |
| 16:42 | <xfire78xx> | do you know how? |
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| 16:42 | <retrospectacus> | me? Nope I don't use xchar or "ame" |
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| 16:43 | <xfire78xx> | ok.. |
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| 16:58 | <dejot_> | can you mount device under xfce? |
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| 17:00 | <dejot_> | precisely thunar |
| 17:01 | <dejot_> | i added "exec dbus-launch ck-launch-session startxfce4" to the .xinitrc |
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| 18:01 | <dejot_> | those all bots, or what? |
| 18:01 | <retrospectacus> | no |
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| 18:03 | <dejot_> | so it's like a grave-yard, people come but don't speak |
| 18:04 | <retrospectacus> | it's a support channel. If you don't have a support question, be quiet |
| 18:04 | <dejot_> | ok |
| 18:04 | <dejot_> | so |
| 18:04 | <sney_> | this server and channel are the default for a lot of people's irc clients, too, so people tend to join just to look, and then leave without saying anything |
| 18:05 | <dejot_> | i have a question |
| 18:05 | <AnalBeard> | speaking of support, i do have a question. what switches are available for modprobe? |
| 18:05 | <dejot_> | haha |
| 18:06 | <dejot_> | i was first |
| 18:06 | <AnalBeard> | i'm running kfreebsd, however i would have assumed they were similar, if not the same |
| 18:06 | <AnalBeard> | too slow :P |
| 18:06 | <dejot_> | ok laydes front |
| 18:06 | <sney_> | AnalBeard: 'man modprobe' - also, most modules have their own options that are set like modprobe module option=value |
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| 18:07 | <sney_> | dejot_: if you have a question, ask it, don't ask to ask or make noise for no reason |
| 18:07 | <AnalBeard> | sney_: no man entry for mod probe |
| 18:07 | <AnalBeard> | not on kfreebsd anyway |
| 18:07 | <dejot_> | i forgot it's a temple |
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| 18:08 | <dondelelcaro> | AnalBeard: you probably want kldload. See it's manpage |
| 18:08 | <AnalBeard> | dondelecaro: aha, thank you |
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| 18:30 | <kenny03> | Good night every body |
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| 20:19 | <ratnick> | how can I change cursor color? |
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| 20:49 | <casper> | Hi, I'm looking for a way to take screenshots from terminal - when the screen is held by a VNC server |
| 20:49 | <casper> | in a normal situation the command is 'import MyScreenshot.png' for example |
| 20:49 | <casper> | How can I get it take screenshot of VNC display? |
| 20:50 | <retrospectacus> | I use scrot for all my screenshooting needs |
| 20:50 | <casper> | yes i also have scrot |
| 20:50 | <casper> | just installed |
| 20:50 | <casper> | but i don't know how to use with vnc |
| 20:52 | <retrospectacus> | I don't use VNC but I don't see how it would be a problem. You should be able to screenshot the screen or a window like any other |
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| 20:52 | <casper> | giblib error: Can't open X display. It *is* running, yeah? |
| 20:53 | <casper> | i'm getting this error |
| 20:53 | <casper> | but i don't know the right syntax |
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| 20:58 | <casper> | any hint? |
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| 21:03 | <Wasiliy> | hello, i'm trying to install debian from usb-stick on a system with hardware raid card, and debian does not see the raid-disks. I've found drivers on manufacturers website, but can't find how to add them to the debian installer |
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| 21:04 | <Jb_boin> | you might need to use a backported installer |
| 21:04 | <Jb_boin> | had to do that on a lsi 9240 for squeeze |
| 21:05 | <Jb_boin> | http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 21:06 | <Wasiliy> | thank you, will try |
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| 21:08 | <indystorm> | Hey guys- I am trying to install dropbox on debian 6. I click the package file and it just downloads it, I can't do anything with it! any ideas what is going on here? I am using ice weasel as my browser.... |
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| 21:10 | <indystorm> | Hey guys- I am trying to install dropbox on debian 6. I click the package file and it just downloads it, I can't do anything with it! any ideas what is going on here? I am using ice weasel as my browser.... |
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| 21:16 | <crd> | indystorm: Read the dpkg manpage. |
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| 21:50 | <jyc> | indystorm, I just end up installing dropbox with from the archive they supply. Installing it like they suggest then adding the daemon to autostart works just as well. |
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| 22:42 | <|Anthony|> | i am considering purchasing this mobo which uses uefi |
| 22:42 | <|Anthony|> | http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X79%20Extreme11/?cat=Specifications |
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| 22:42 | <|Anthony|> | will i have any problems using debian with it? |
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| 23:21 | <zeptis> | Hello all: I'm trying to install wine1.4.1 for amd64, but debian is generally being super fun about this. I've added Wheezy depos, then apt-get wine is just a package telling me to do something with dpkg that dpkg doesn't do. |
| 23:21 | <zeptis> | I've even added the ubuntu/wine ppa, but no dice |
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| 23:24 | <sney_> | zeptis: both of those are bad ideas on a squeeze system |
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| 23:24 | <zeptis> | I'm not one for stability, sney_, although I earnestly appreciate Debian looking out for me. |
| 23:25 | <|Anthony|> | http://www.winehq.org/download/debian |
| 23:25 | <sney_> | zeptis: well, then just use wheezy; there are wine 1.4 and 1.5 (iirc) packages available that don't require any apt breakage or frankendebian ubuntu mixes |
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| 23:26 | <sney_> | http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ <- yep, wine 1.5.5 for wheezy/sid |
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| 23:27 | <|Anthony|> | is it foreseeable that i will encounter any issues installing debian on a system built around this mobo? |
| 23:27 | <|Anthony|> | http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X79 Extreme11 |
| 23:28 | <zeptis> | I'm on a frankensqueeze system right now, so I just have to change instances of 'squeeze' to 'wheezy' in the /etc/apt/sources.list, right? |
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| 23:28 | <sney_> | !tell zeptis about squeeze->wheezy |
| 23:28 | <zeptis> | danke |
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| 23:29 | <sney_> | |Anthony|: I predict it would work, but grub, audio, and possibly networking would be file under: annoying |
| 23:30 | <|Anthony|> | really |
| 23:30 | <|Anthony|> | well that's a bummer |
| 23:30 | <|Anthony|> | reasons? |
| 23:30 | <|Anthony|> | i'm not too concerned with using the on-board audio tbh |
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| 23:31 | <|Anthony|> | i'll be using gpu's with hdmi |
| 23:31 | <|Anthony|> | planning a multiseat system here |
| 23:31 | <sney_> | grub because of doubtful legacy bios support, networking because of broadcom |
| 23:32 | <sney_> | the first one is hard to avoid in new hardware though. |
| 23:32 | <|Anthony|> | uefi is not supported atm? |
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| 23:33 | <sney_> | it is technically supported, but it's still new so it's still weird |
| 23:33 | <|Anthony|> | will the debian installer handle uefi? |
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| 23:34 | <zeptis> | here we go, the dist-upgrade |
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| 23:34 | <zeptis> | hopefully xorg doesn't segfault :3 |
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