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00:26 | <joubin__> | Hey yall, can someone tell me how to run a command from crontab that requires x11 or gui |
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00:45 | <BlackDragon42> | Hello. |
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00:47 | <BlackDragon42> | How is everyone? |
00:48 | <BlackDragon42> | It's been awhile since I've been on here. |
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02:22 | <toru> | Does anyone know if the nvidia drivers are going to be updated anytime soon for wheezy? I'm debating pinning the newer ones. I can't use disper with the current version. |
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02:29 | <jm_> | ,versions nvidia-glx |
02:29 | <judd> | Package: nvidia-glx on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5; squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze1; squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 302.17-3; sid/non-free: 304.48-1 |
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02:33 | <jm_> | packages.qa site says it might be updated next week (if I understand it correctly) |
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02:33 | <toru> | hmm well that would be good. might just wait it out. |
02:33 | <toru> | just a tad bit of a hassle to go into nvidia settings every time i want to use 2 monitors. |
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02:34 | <toru> | then again it might not be too hard to just update it now and then unpin it later. |
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02:35 | <toru> | i can't figure out why they took pidgin-libnotify out though. had to grab that from the sid repository earlier. |
02:36 | <toru> | works fine with the xfce-notify daemon and what not. |
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02:37 | <jm_> | because of bugs |
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02:38 | <toru> | eh, there's plenty of bugs in stuff they kept in there still. |
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02:39 | <toru> | but yeah i haha. i guess i just don't understand the ways of the debian masterminds. |
02:40 | <jeep_> | toru: you mistook some bugs for hidden features is all ! |
02:40 | <toru> | haha indeed. |
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02:53 | <rombus> | hello |
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04:04 | <perlwizard> | what is 'network' line in /e/n/i file for ? |
04:05 | <perlwizard> | I'm in /28 network, what should I have on there |
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04:10 | <jm_> | you shouldn't need the network line |
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04:11 | <perlwizard> | alright. thank you |
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04:44 | <msi> | hi there |
04:45 | <msi> | if i install a package from squeeze backports on my stable, will it substitute an installed packages from stable oder not? |
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04:47 | <msi> | to be more precise: i have iceweasel from the stable repository installed and want to upgrade to the backports version. now, when i simply say "aptitude -t squeeze-backports install iceweasel", will i have two instneces of iceweasel installed? |
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04:50 | <perlwizard> | try it and see ? |
04:51 | <SynrG> | the only way to have two of the same package installed is for them to have different names |
04:51 | <msi> | well, i'd rather know about the conseqeunces before |
04:51 | <msi> | ok. so the old iceweasel will be substituted. |
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04:55 | <msi> | ok. that worked. |
04:56 | <msi> | i'm runnign iceweasel 10 now and i don't like what it looks like. |
04:56 | <msi> | can any recommend another browser to try? |
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04:58 | <msi> | is apt-pinning still necessary to have backports upgraded automatically? |
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05:00 | <SynrG> | msi: backports are pinned by default |
05:00 | <diroots> | msi: chromium-browser |
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05:02 | <msi> | chromium is by google, right? |
05:02 | <SynrG> | msi: read http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ and man apt_preferences on what '100' means |
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05:03 | <msi> | ok, thanks |
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05:07 | <jm_> | msi: you can get newer version of iceweasel from mozilla.debian.net |
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05:09 | <SynrG> | jm_: for squeeze? i thought 10 was the latest they supported |
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05:10 | <jm_> | SynrG: yup, for squeeze, all recent versions have been available for squeeze there |
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05:11 | <SynrG> | ah, right. it's only icedove that they only offer esr for |
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06:23 | <enrico_> | hi |
06:23 | <enrico_> | !list |
06:23 | <dpkg> | enrico_: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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06:24 | <enrico_> | Hello |
06:24 | <enrico_> | !list |
06:24 | <dpkg> | enrico_: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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06:33 | <planetmaker> | !list |
06:33 | <dpkg> | planetmaker: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
06:33 | <planetmaker> | hm |
06:33 | <planetmaker> | why does it talk italian? |
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06:36 | <jm_> | because only italians do !list |
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06:37 | <vimes> | Having severe difficulty installing firefox add-ons in iceweasel. I download it, it says it will reinstall after restart, it doesn't. How do I install add-ons on iceweasel or alternatively how to do I install firefox on Debian nicely so it isn't in Dutch and updates properly etc etc |
06:38 | <jm_> | how are you installing add-ons? which version of iceweasel? |
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06:39 | <vimes> | Fairly sure its the latest one I'll check. I go to the mozilla website, click install add-on for firefox, it downloads, says it will install on restart. When I restart, it doesn't have it and the install button is still there like nothing happened. |
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06:40 | <jm_> | check via help->about |
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06:42 | <vimes> | 11.0 |
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06:43 | <jm_> | that's old, 15.0.1 is lates on mozilla.debian.net (backports has 10.x ESR release) |
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06:44 | <vimes> | "apt-get update" and "apt-get install iceweasel" just said it was the latest version. How do I force it to update to the latest version? |
06:45 | <jm_> | visit mozilla.debian.net in your browser to get instructions |
06:45 | <vimes> | oki doke |
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06:54 | <vimes> | ok...stupid question here, I want to make a new file in sources.list.d to put the address lines inside, but...do I just make a text file, copy the text in and change the extention to .list? |
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06:56 | <jm_> | yes |
06:56 | <vimes> | k |
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07:10 | <jemadux> | when xfce 4.10 wil be on sid ? |
07:10 | <jm_> | it's in experimental |
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07:31 | <grusemil> | hi |
07:32 | <grusemil> | I'm unable to install nvidia glx, nor the kernel |
07:32 | <grusemil> | any help would be appreciated |
07:32 | <jm_> | tried instructions from http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
07:33 | <grusemil> | no, my mistake, let me see, tank you |
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07:38 | <babilen> | !tell grusemil -about nvidia dkms |
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07:48 | <babilen> | grusemil: Which card do you have? |
07:50 | <grusemil> | that pluggin for x.chat xys, do I need to restart it ? |
07:50 | <babilen> | no idea |
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07:54 | <grusemil> | babilen: nVidia Corporation G98M [GeForce G 103M] |
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07:57 | <babilen> | grusemil: yeah, the instructions in "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" (dpkg told you about that already) should work for you |
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07:58 | <grusemil> | I'm not so sure, he want's me to remove a lots of stuff |
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07:59 | <babilen> | grusemil: "he" ? If you are unsure about the behaviour of some program paste the exact command and its output to http://paste.debian.net |
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08:00 | <babilen> | grusemil: Ah, you probably did install a kernel from backports didn't you |
08:01 | <grusemil> | babilen: no I didn't do that yet |
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08:02 | <babilen> | grusemil: Ah, ok. In that case I am not sure what your problem might be and I need to see the exact command and its output. |
08:03 | <grusemil> | babilen: maybe was something running, java stuff and things like that were selected for remove with install linux headers |
08:03 | <grusemil> | not anymore |
08:04 | <grusemil> | linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64 - I assume this is it ? |
08:05 | <babilen> | grusemil: It might still be a good idea to paste the output of the aptitude install command to http://paste.debian.net -- That way I can check if the driver compilation succeeded. |
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08:05 | <babilen> | grusemil: The command that should work for you is "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
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08:06 | <babilen> | grusemil: Or, due to the fact that we know that you run amd64 "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-amd64 nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
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08:06 | <grusemil> | ah, that command run install the whole thing, perfect |
08:07 | <babilen> | May I see the output? |
08:07 | <grusemil> | In a min |
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08:09 | <grusemil> | http://paste.debian.net/190226/ |
08:09 | <grusemil> | is in my native language, I prefer english though |
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08:09 | <grusemil> | *it's |
08:11 | <babilen> | grusemil: That looks fine -- You can now continue with the rest of the instructions. If you want to switch your default locale to English you can run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and configure it to your liking. |
08:11 | <grusemil> | babilen: thank you very much |
08:12 | <babilen> | grusemil: Rest of the instructions: "mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section ...." (see "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms") |
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08:18 | <vimes> | cheers jm_ I installed all the add-ons I wanted to except better-privacy for whatever reason |
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08:21 | <jm_> | vimes: no worries; interesting, that one works fine for me |
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08:25 | <loicd> | Hi. How would you mirror a wheezy repository ? I've tried reprepro but it's very sensitive to errors (i.e. it will stop mirroring as soon as an error occurs on a package instead of discarding it ) |
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08:29 | * | loicd trying http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
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08:32 | <grusemil> | babilen: Seems that is working |
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08:33 | <grusemil> | once again cheers |
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09:35 | <grusemil> | anyone knows whish is the package for sreenshots ? gnome-screenshot isn't avaiable |
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09:37 | <melmothX> | grusemil: there are dozen of tools for screenshots |
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09:38 | <melmothX> | if you have imagemagick (and I will be suprised if you have not it), import myshot.png will do the trick. Gimp, also, takes screenshots |
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09:38 | <grusemil> | memothx, dozen of tools for shotkeys screenshots ? Where ? |
09:39 | <grusemil> | *shortkeys |
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09:44 | <grusemil> | anyway, got it, problem on sources.list |
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09:45 | <SynrG> | i am rather happy with shutter for an all-singing/dancing screenshot tool |
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09:57 | <nadir> | imo shutter is worth a try |
09:57 | <nadir> | too |
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10:12 | <tzvi> | where can i download mintmenu for ubuntu 12.04 |
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10:32 | <grusemil> | I did follow the steps by dpkg to nvidia, still not working properly as on ubuntu |
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10:41 | <babilen> | grusemil: Please elaborate. I also recall that you said: "Seems that is working" |
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10:44 | <grusemil> | I noticed that speciallly in game |
10:44 | <grusemil> | Very slow, maybe due to backports ? |
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10:47 | <babilen> | grusemil: Could you install mesa-utils and show me the output of 'glxinfo|grep -iE "render(er|ing)"' -- Which game exactly and how do you run it. Didn't you say that you don't use backports (as of now) or what did you install from there? |
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10:48 | <grusemil> | babilen: I didn't use, maybe is that the cause ? |
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10:51 | <grusemil> | please tell me exactly how to use mesa-utlities |
10:51 | <babilen> | Didn't I? |
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10:51 | <grusemil> | nothing is showing after that |
10:52 | <babilen> | grusemil: Ok, then run "glxinfo" and paste that along with your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net |
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10:56 | <grusemil> | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/190264/ |
10:56 | <grusemil> | it's very long, a bit harsh, thank you for a having a look at it |
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10:58 | <babilen> | grusemil: Everyhting in that looks fine -- You definitely have hardware acceleration. This means that you have to provide more details about your actual problem. It could be that a newer nvidia version performs better, but how would we ever know if you don't tell us what is wrong? |
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10:59 | * | babilen will be back later |
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11:03 | <grusemil> | I already told you, the game I used to play is running slower graphically, same card, same game |
11:03 | <grusemil> | What more can I add ? |
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11:06 | <babilen> | Which game? How do you run or install it? Slower compared to what? Which driver version was installed on "the other system". Which system do you compare to? |
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11:24 | <grusemil> | babilen: ET, running a shell script due to sound problems, mint susie |
11:24 | <babilen> | grusemil: Which nvidia driver version did you use there? |
11:24 | <grusemil> | Isn't a problem, since I don't inted to play a lot in the next seasons. but something is wrong |
11:25 | <grusemil> | Don't know, the system took care of that |
11:25 | <babilen> | grusemil: Well, this is probably influenced by many things such as the nvidia driver version, xorg version, mesa version, ... |
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11:26 | <babilen> | Hard to say anything specific without knowing the particulars. |
11:29 | <grusemil> | I saved the software selection data |
11:29 | <grusemil> | but that doesn't say much about it |
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11:31 | <grusemil> | xserver-xorg-video-nouveau; xserver-xorg-video-qxl |
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11:32 | <babilen> | grusemil: You could try a newer nvidia driver, kernel and/or xorg version from backports, but I can't tell you if that will help. But given that you should install a newer kernel for your wireless card anyway it might now be too much of a hassle. See <bdo> <bdo kernel> and <bdo xorg> for details. |
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11:32 | <babilen> | grusemil: nouveau is the open-source driver |
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11:35 | <Screwba> | anyone here know samba-winbind? |
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11:36 | <grusemil> | Ok, I'll look at it later, have to go now, thanks again, stay fine babilen |
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11:38 | <SynrG> | Screwba: still lost, hm? my sympathies, but still not the right place to bring the problem unless it pertains to debian |
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11:44 | <PaulePanter> | Hi. Looking at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=evolution-data-server;dist=unstable what is the symbol for bugs that are marked »wontfix«? |
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11:45 | <themill> | PaulePanter: should be a little frowny face. Looks like the bts is eating utf-8 again |
11:45 | <PaulePanter> | Looking at the line for #499200, â¹ is shown in WebKit based browsers. |
11:45 | <PaulePanter> | themill: Yes. |
11:46 | <PaulePanter> | Thank you for confirming. |
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11:46 | <PaulePanter> | Where should that be reported to? |
11:47 | <themill> | ,bug 682281 |
11:47 | <judd> | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/682281 in bugs.debian.org (open, confirmed): «Tag wontfix doesn't display the sad face icon correctly»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2012-07-20; last modified: 2012-07-20. |
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11:49 | <PaulePanter> | themill: Thanks! |
11:49 | <themill> | PaulePanter: ^^ the bugs.debian.org pseudo-package looks after bugs in the bts itself. |
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11:49 | <PaulePanter> | themill: Understood. Thanks. |
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12:00 | <ritu> | hi |
12:00 | <ritu> | hello to all |
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12:16 | <rtwhrt_> | hi all |
12:17 | <retrospectacus> | hey |
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12:17 | <D|2aG00n> | español? |
12:17 | <rtwhrt_> | hungary |
12:17 | <rtwhrt_> | XD |
12:17 | <daemonkeeper> | !es |
12:17 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
12:17 | <rtwhrt_> | !hun |
12:17 | <rtwhrt_> | !hu |
12:17 | <dpkg> | from memory, hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
12:18 | <dust> | !at |
12:18 | <dpkg> | [at] a delayed job execution and batch processing program, or IBM's second-generation PC (Advanced Technology), or Austria, or OK |
12:18 | <rtwhrt_> | ok |
12:18 | <dust> | :D |
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12:18 | <daemonkeeper> | !msg the bot |
12:18 | <dpkg> | Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . If you're helping people, you can check that you have the right factoid before showing it to others. |
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12:19 | <Guest7341> | Hi! How can I reduce the file buffer RAM consumption? |
12:20 | <Guest7341> | I know it's a performace boosting thingy, but Virtualbox sees the RAM as used and Guru Meditates my VMs. |
12:20 | <The_dutch> | Penis^ |
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12:38 | <anon-xxx-xxxx> | #list |
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12:40 | <madd> | hello |
12:40 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
12:40 | <anon-xxx-xxxx> | sappnin irc Gz |
12:40 | <madd> | guys i need some guidance |
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12:40 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
12:40 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
12:41 | <madd> | thank you |
12:41 | <madd> | but i am looking for something else at the moment |
12:41 | <madd> | does anybody know irc channel for vcc purchase? |
12:41 | <retrospectacus> | this channel is for debian support. "something else" is offtopic |
12:42 | <madd> | ok... |
12:42 | <retrospectacus> | try #moocows |
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12:42 | <madd> | thanx ;) |
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12:46 | <hannibal> | hello |
12:46 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
12:46 | <hannibal> | hello i am new here |
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12:46 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
12:46 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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12:46 | * | babilen sees a recurrent theme emerging |
12:47 | <hannibal> | i am using zorin core 6 |
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12:47 | <hannibal> | an di cant do c ++ programming |
12:47 | <retrospectacus> | hannibal: not sure what that is but it doesn't sound like debian |
12:47 | <hannibal> | ok wait |
12:47 | <hannibal> | my english is bad sorry |
12:47 | <retrospectacus> | try filling in the blanks in the !ask thing above |
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12:48 | <hannibal> | I have a problem with terminal |
12:48 | <hannibal> | and when i installed debain i cant see best fonts |
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12:49 | <retrospectacus> | well that was pointless |
12:49 | <babilen> | hannibal: This is a support channel for Debian (http://www.debian.org) and Zorin OS is not supported in here. I would recommend to take it to #ZorinOS on irc.freenode.net or elsewhere. Thank you! |
12:49 | <babilen> | (that as well) |
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13:02 | <grusemil> | back |
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13:03 | <grusemil> | having a closer view, even the letters seems not to be accurate |
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13:05 | <grusemil> | I'm afraid using imageshack for e.g. to show can't be satisfying |
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13:06 | <grusemil> | using backports can damage the system ? |
13:07 | <retrospectacus> | not particularly.... lots of things you could do to damage the system though |
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13:09 | <grusemil> | sure, I meant to backports specifically |
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13:35 | <ripper> | hola |
13:35 | <ripper> | hice un post sobre mi "problema" http://goo.gl/LbEuV |
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13:36 | <ripper> | aunque lo resumo en un "gnome-exe-thumbnailer" para el entorno de escritorio mate |
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13:39 | <ripper> | hi i need some kind of "gnome-exe-thumbnailer" for mate desktop enviroment |
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13:41 | <retrospectacus> | ripper: mate is not in debian and so not supported here. Try #mate on irc.freenode.net |
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13:41 | <cobehattieu12345> | dfsdfsdfsd |
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13:41 | <ripper> | thanks i asked here because i use debian testing |
13:42 | <ripper> | ¬¬ |
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13:44 | <retrospectacus> | ripper, testing has its own channel: #debian-next but it doesn't have mate either, so they won't know anything there either. Try the mate channel. |
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14:02 | <grusemil> | ripper, or you can try #linuxmin-help on Spotchat |
14:04 | <ripper> | grusemil, you are right i dont thinked in it XD |
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14:04 | <grusemil> | yeah, maybe they can help you until you wait here or elsewhere |
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14:07 | <ripper> | what's spotchat? |
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14:08 | <grusemil> | ripper: irc.spotchat.org |
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14:09 | <babilen> | !mint |
14:09 | <dpkg> | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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14:09 | <grusemil> | lolz, that's usefull |
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14:39 | <Derpadong> | I need some help. Im trying to use pianobar but I keep getting this error from pkcs11 saying something is connecting from the keyring. Can anyone help me? Im on Debian Sid |
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14:39 | <Derpadong> | isnt* |
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15:10 | <lollino> | hi |
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15:24 | <BlackDragon42> | Hello. |
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15:27 | <BlackDragon42> | How is everyone? |
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15:30 | <BlackDragon42> | Anyways... |
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15:36 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
15:36 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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15:41 | <Pawki> | hi |
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16:23 | <martasd> | hi. for various reasons, i need to install packages from archive.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny (oldstable). Is there a way to verify the authenticity of those packages? I have added the key i found at http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html, but I still get a warning that the packages i am trying to install cannot be authenticated. Can anyone help? |
16:23 | <colin_t> | I'm using stable with fluxbox and recently gnome-volume-control-applet stopped working. I get this: ** (gnome-volume-control-applet:6020): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... what is it trying to connect to? |
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16:25 | <ompaul> | martasd: so you want a retired key but hey it's retired for a reason stable has moved on |
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16:26 | <ompaul> | colin_t: no idea - lsof might say what it thinks it's doing - most likely your sound card |
16:27 | <martasd> | ompaul: could you explain what retired means? is there no way to verify the authenticity? |
16:28 | <ompaul> | martasd: no longer in use |
16:28 | <ompaul> | martasd: you might be able to stick them somewhere and verify the packages |
16:28 | <ompaul> | martasd: why not upgrade it to squeeze |
16:29 | <ompaul> | maintaining an out of tree, old distro and you want security can I cough now please? |
16:29 | <martasd> | ompaul: it is a very special case, there are reasons I don't really want to explain right now |
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16:30 | <martasd> | ompaul: i would love you to upgrade to squeeze, but it is just not an option |
16:30 | <ompaul> | http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys/archive-key-5.0.asc |
16:30 | <ompaul> | martasd: you haven't convinced me that it is just not an option |
16:30 | <martasd> | i have tried that one, but i still get a warning from apt |
16:30 | <ompaul> | the box you are loading / restoring has access to the internet |
16:31 | <ompaul> | I'd use aptzip and download the files with wget but that's me |
16:31 | <ompaul> | at least I knew where i got them from |
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16:31 | <_Condor> | ciao ragazzi ... :) |
16:31 | <ompaul> | or maybe not aptzip ... but hey whatever works for you (build your own repo and sign it) |
16:31 | <ompaul> | !it |
16:31 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
16:32 | <_Condor> | ok graz ;) |
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16:34 | <colin_t> | ompaul: looking at strace it seems to be looking for pulse. is that the default in stable? |
16:34 | <martasd> | ompaul: apt-zip uses apt, so that's not much different; i think i will just have to trust it |
16:34 | <ompaul> | its in there |
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16:36 | <ompaul> | colin_t: I~( don't think so but it is available you may have installed something that pulled it in |
16:37 | <colin_t> | ompaul: indeed, thanks anyways |
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16:41 | <Karou> | hey folks |
16:41 | <Karou> | can anyone lend me a hand |
16:41 | <Karou> | im looking to install debian via usb |
16:41 | <Karou> | im just trying to figure out what to do about the files for install |
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16:42 | <Karou> | mind you I can't have a gui |
16:42 | <streuner> | Karou: check out /msg dpkg ig |
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16:42 | <Karou> | that's not really gunna help :P |
16:43 | <Guest7368> | help |
16:43 | <Guest7368> | :P |
16:43 | <Karou> | nvm |
16:43 | <Guest7368> | ? |
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17:27 | <dodo> | I am logged into a Debian through ssh. I would like to run a program and have it keep running after I log out. How can I do that? |
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17:29 | <Brigo> | dodo: detach, i think |
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17:29 | <Brigo> | dodo: no, nohup: nohup (1) - run a command immune to hangups, with output to a non-tty |
17:30 | <dodo> | Brigo, thanks |
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17:32 | <retrospectacus> | dodo: screen, tmux, disown or nohup |
17:32 | <dodo> | retrospectacus, thanks. |
17:33 | <daemonkeeper> | (with all providing the functionality in question, but in an orthogonally different way) |
17:34 | <retrospectacus> | might as well read up on all of them! I use screen although everyone says tmux is better, I'm just used to screen |
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17:37 | <daemonkeeper> | retrospectacus: Frankly, it is mostly the same. tmux has a much better multi user support to come around the screen size problems you *surely* encountered when using screen with multiple users attached. |
17:37 | <daemonkeeper> | And, better permissions for multi user sessions. |
17:38 | <daemonkeeper> | (better permissions as in: not relying on a writable /dev/tty of the owning session) |
17:38 | <daemonkeeper> | Aside, it's matter of taste mostly. |
17:38 | <retrospectacus> | ah. Well I've only used it for multi-attach once or twice |
17:38 | <retrospectacus> | and yeah the "cannot open your tty" or whatever is confusing and annoying |
17:39 | <daemonkeeper> | Also windows which never fit the remaining client's terminal sizes. |
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17:40 | <retrospectacus> | my most common use case: I'm using screen for this irssi session, so I can use it from work/home/anywhere... don't have to deal with multiple connected terminals |
17:41 | <daemonkeeper> | Oh: that reminds of another tmux advantage: it's backlog scrolling does not suck :p |
17:42 | <retrospectacus> | nice. That is also quite annoying... the only way I know how to go up when e.g. watching a log file is ^A[ |
17:43 | <daemonkeeper> | (on the other hand, its keyboard shortcuts are worse than screen's, if that's even possible) |
17:44 | <retrospectacus> | sounds like I'll be sticking with what I know |
17:44 | <retrospectacus> | :) |
17:46 | <daemonkeeper> | never change a running ... ehrm ... terminal emulator window manager |
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17:52 | <elena16> | ya |
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17:56 | <chikidu> | Hi! I'm having this problem using aircrack, would you mind help me out? http://paste.debian.net/190376/ |
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18:06 | <Apollo> | did you bother to google? |
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18:07 | <Apollo> | I doubt anyone is going to tell you everything, especially because you're trying to run aircrack |
18:07 | <Apollo> | this smells scriptkiddy |
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18:09 | <chikidu> | yeah, I am still serching in google, and yes I'm a "scriptkiddy". The problem is that the firmware is missing, right? |
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18:10 | <perlwizard> | those error messages look italian |
18:10 | <perlwizard> | maybe you'll have better help on italian support channel |
18:13 | <chikidu> | no, it's spanish, sorry about that. It says that the directory or file [phy0]SIOCSIFFLAGS exist |
18:13 | <chikidu> | No such file or directory... |
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18:14 | <Apollo> | chikidu: rtfm |
18:14 | <Apollo> | they describe the issue in their faq |
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18:16 | <chikidu> | Ok, thank you! |
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18:17 | <chikidu> | and sorry to bother you |
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19:04 | <hamstar> | hey guys |
19:04 | <hamstar> | can i ask questions about packaging in here? |
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19:05 | <retrospectacus> | yes, though you might get more action in #debian-mentors |
19:05 | <themill> | hamstar: you can; #debian-mentors may be a better place depending on the question and what you're trying to do with the package |
19:05 | <devil> | hamstar: best do that in #d-mentors |
19:05 | <hamstar> | sweet thank you |
19:06 | <hamstar> | oh btw i mean like finetuning a package that i've made |
19:06 | <hamstar> | #debina-mentors still good for that? |
19:06 | <hamstar> | *#debian-mentors |
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19:07 | <themill> | yes. Particularly if you're looking to have it uploaded to debian |
19:08 | <hamstar> | cool thanks :) |
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20:04 | <siddy> | how do I check the free disk space of my partitions? df is not doing it :( It only shows the current partition (and root dir) |
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20:05 | <TCW> | siddy, huh? |
20:06 | <TCW> | df does print all fses found in /proc/mounts, which are all currently mounted filesystems. |
20:06 | <TCW> | at least without a fs-option, like df -h / |
20:06 | <TCW> | just df -h and all fses are printed |
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20:07 | <TCW> | bbl |
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21:33 | <siddy> | TCW: but, it didn't |
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21:33 | <siddy> | not all partitions |
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22:44 | <MykX> | hello everybody |
22:44 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
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23:03 | <ziggy> | yo yo |
23:03 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
23:03 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
23:03 | <ziggy> | any IT/IS guys in the room |
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23:08 | * | Screwba is an IT guy. =) |
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23:13 | <imperial> | theres probably alot that are on different expert level |
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23:16 | <retrospectacus> | today I have a problem... squeeze, trying to install gnucash: apt-cache policy http://paste.debian.net/190430/ install attempts: http://paste.debian.net/190431/ more policy http://paste.debian.net/190432/ |
23:16 | <Ariii> | How should I convince my High School to switch from MS Office to OpenOffice/LibreOffice/etc. ? I don't want to pay the large fee to purchase it. |
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23:17 | <retrospectacus> | Ariii: tell them to give you the large fee or use the equivalent LO for free, their choice |
23:18 | <retrospectacus> | not a debian question though. Try #debian-offtopic if you want to continue |
23:18 | <Ariii> | retrospectacus: Good idea, thanks! And sorry. |
23:18 | <retrospectacus> | :) |
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