| --- | Log | opened Wed Oct 03 00:00:08 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Oct 03 2012 |
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| 00:03 | <blackboxcoder> | i have this command: sudo mount -t cifs //Networkpath/Music /home/blackboxcoder/Musik/FB how can i make this as a autostart? |
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| 00:12 | <ectospasm> | blackboxcoder: add it to /etc/fstab |
| 00:13 | <ectospasm> | blackboxcoder: something like this: |
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| 00:14 | <ectospasm> | /Networkpath/Music /home/blackboxcoder/Musik/FB cifs _netdev,uid=XXXX,user,auto 0 0 |
| 00:15 | <ectospasm> | blackboxcoder: ^ |
| 00:15 | <ectospasm> | the options field you may want (or have) to modify |
| 00:15 | <ectospasm> | see man 5 fstab for details |
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| 00:27 | <blackboxcoder> | thanks ectospasm |
| 00:27 | <blackboxcoder> | i will have a try |
| 00:28 | <ectospasm> | no problem... lemme know how it goes |
| 00:28 | <ectospasm> | blackboxcoder: remember, replace uid=XXXX with your actual $UID |
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| 01:07 | <cybes> | hi retrospectacus, TCW |
| 01:07 | <cybes> | guess you guys are online |
| 01:08 | <cybes> | i could'nt join to #debian a litlle earlier |
| 01:08 | <cybes> | it says "you are banned" |
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| 01:09 | <cybes> | i switched from root to my username and now i could join |
| 01:09 | <cybes> | please tell me why that is |
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| 01:10 | <sney> | cybes: because running irc as root is a security hole, so this channel automatically bans root users to protect them |
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| 01:10 | <cybes> | oh ok thanks sney |
| 01:10 | <sney> | <crab> to irc as root demonstrates about the same brains as a man in a thunderstorm waving a lightning rod and standing in a copper tub of salt water yelling "ALL GODS ARE BASTARDS!" |
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| 01:11 | <cybes> | haha |
| 01:11 | <cybes> | sney: could you please tell me how one can access the root |
| 01:12 | <cybes> | i meant you are telling that logging in as root is a security problem for the user ?how? |
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| 01:13 | <cybes> | sney: could you please help me out on that |
| 01:14 | <cybes> | cybes:dont want to be<crab> ..thats why |
| 01:14 | <cybes> | :( |
| 01:16 | <sney> | root has complete control over absolutely everything in the system |
| 01:16 | <sney> | if someone has root access, then there is nothing they cannot do within the bounds of that system. |
| 01:17 | <sney> | IRC is a (often unencrypted) network connection that exposes your system to a lot of other users on the internet, through a protocol that is not designed to be secure in any way |
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| 01:19 | <cybes> | ok sney: :) |
| 01:19 | <cybes> | i thought it'd be a security prob for the IRC not mine..my bad |
| 01:20 | <cybes> | so i came here for a solution sney: about my sound , audio problem |
| 01:20 | <cybes> | i can't hear any sound in my laptop |
| 01:21 | <cybes> | i sort tried many things that discussed here yesterday ..but all in vain |
| 01:21 | <cybes> | i don't know why a ICT codec is there in my /proc/asound/card0 |
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| 01:22 | <cybes> | even though my sound card is a Intel cougar point rev(05) as listed in lspci |
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| 01:24 | <cybes> | please ..any help would be great |
| 01:24 | <cybes> | me got stuck with this situation for days |
| 01:25 | <cybes> | i got only solutions such as using newer kernels and other unstable thingys |
| 01:26 | <cybes> | i think there should be other fix |
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| 01:26 | <jm_> | and that doesn't help? |
| 01:26 | <cybes> | i didn't installed the newer kernel...i like to use the built in kernel from the debian squeeze |
| 01:27 | <jm_> | use the one from backports |
| 01:27 | <cybes> | kernel? |
| 01:27 | <jm_> | yes |
| 01:27 | <cybes> | but that should also be in a testing phase ..right? |
| 01:27 | <jm_> | no |
| 01:28 | <cybes> | isn't there any other ways dude..for this trouble |
| 01:28 | <cybes> | some driver sort of things |
| 01:28 | <jm_> | driver is in the *kernel* |
| 01:28 | <cybes> | but we can manually install it right |
| 01:28 | <cybes> | the drivers |
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| 01:29 | <cybes> | me got installed the broadcom drivers earlier |
| 01:29 | <jm_> | in theory, but if installing the kernel is too hard for you you won't manage it |
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| 01:30 | <cybes> | why i'm not installing kernel is becoz i'm having a feeling that debian squeeze comes wtih all the stable condition that changing the kernel would affect the system |
| 01:32 | <cybes> | isn't there figuring out the sound card or alsa problems solve the problem? |
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| 01:33 | <cybes> | me got a feeling that i could use some help from here and hence i doesn't need to destroy the stability of the debian system |
| 01:35 | <cybes> | please there should be some fix ..anyone know please help me out |
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| 01:38 | <cybes> | Help!help!help! |
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| 01:41 | <cybes> | cybes wonders if retrospectacus and TCW are here |
| 01:43 | <cybes> | 476 users idle in #debian |
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| 01:46 | <cybes> | jm_:which backport kernel should i install?? |
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| 01:48 | <cybes> | cybes came with a great hope in finding the solution with the debian community |
| 01:48 | <jm_> | cybes: which kernel do you have installed now? |
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| 01:48 | <cybes> | :) |
| 01:48 | <cybes> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 01:49 | <cybes> | thanks for response dude |
| 01:50 | <cybes> | the inbuilt kernel of debian squeeze |
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| 01:50 | <jm_> | linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 would be the one then |
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| 01:51 | <jm_> | or you could use one of the meta packages - linux-image-amd64 |
| 01:51 | <cybes> | jm_..is there any problem in changing the default kernel in the debian sqeeze |
| 01:53 | <jm_> | cybes: no, it won't replace your existing kernel, it will only install additional one, so you will have both as an option in grub |
| 01:54 | <cybes> | so do i need to install the wireless network drivers and all again after installing this new kernel |
| 01:54 | <cybes> | me a newbie to debian |
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| 01:55 | <jm_> | how did you install them? |
| 01:56 | <cybes> | downloaded the package and make..., modeprobe..insmod all that |
| 01:56 | <cybes> | do i need to do that all again |
| 01:57 | <jm_> | yes |
| 01:57 | <cybes> | cybes looks innocently to jm_ |
| 01:58 | <cybes> | jm_:so what is a meta package? |
| 01:58 | <cybes> | linux-image-amd64 |
| 01:58 | <cybes> | but the thing is that the inbuilt ubuntu has sound workign well |
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| 01:59 | <jm_> | apt-cache show linux-image-amd64 |
| 01:59 | <jm_> | which kernel is ubuntu using? |
| 01:59 | <cybes> | sorry jm_that ubuntu came preinstalled in the laptop and i bet its older than this kernel |
| 02:00 | <cybes> | now i've no ubuntu on this machine |
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| 02:01 | <cybes> | then how the sound worked in that kernel..there should be some driver fix dude |
| 02:02 | <cybes> | jm_ could you please help me troubleshooting this problem apart from installing new kernel |
| 02:02 | <cybes> | is it possible? |
| 02:03 | <jm_> | cybes: no, I don't have time for that, please try the new kernel first |
| 02:04 | <cybes> | ok so what to do then |
| 02:04 | <jm_> | install it |
| 02:04 | <cybes> | no problem |
| 02:04 | <cybes> | the meta package or bakport one? |
| 02:05 | <cybes> | could you please tell the step by step method of installing |
| 02:06 | <jm_> | that's up to you - using the meta package means that it might automatically udpate your kernel on upgrades; you install the same way as other packages, for backports you have instructions here http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 02:07 | <cybes> | how should i install meta package ? |
| 02:07 | <cybes> | from where |
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| 02:08 | <cybes> | ?? |
| 02:08 | <cybes> | jm_ |
| 02:08 | <jm_> | just install the linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 from backports |
| 02:09 | <cybes> | could you please tell me an instruction link for meta package..for understanding what it is? |
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| 02:11 | <cybes> | could you please tell me how you get that linux version?from where? |
| 02:11 | <cybes> | linux-image-3.3.0-0 |
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| 02:12 | <cybes> | sorry if you are busy |
| 02:12 | <cybes> | thanks for all the help |
| 02:13 | <cybes> | jm_ thank you very much |
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| 02:18 | <jm_> | cybes: it's the same for the meta package, just pkg name is different |
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| 02:20 | <cybes> | could you have time for educating me about what is the difference between meta packages and other..i've read comething in meta packages documentation ..but can't able to understand it clearly |
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| 02:25 | <jm_> | they just depend on real packages, it's just a convenience measure |
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| 02:28 | <cybes> | new kernel is installing ...any other thing to do after that |
| 02:29 | <cybes> | jm_: |
| 02:30 | <jm_> | cybes: you will have to reinstall your wlan driver as you already noted, why did you install it using make? |
| 02:30 | <cybes> | then how ?any other way? i used it as it in the readme file of the broadcom |
| 02:31 | <cybes> | it was a source package |
| 02:31 | <jm_> | which wlan chipset is it? |
| 02:31 | <cybes> | broadcom |
| 02:31 | <cybes> | bcm4313 |
| 02:32 | <cybes> | jm_ how did you tell me about the kernel version before?how did you know? |
| 02:32 | <cybes> | that linux image-3.0-0 |
| 02:33 | <jm_> | cybes: do it the debian way, pick one: http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 http://wiki.debian.org/wl |
| 02:33 | <jm_> | cybes: you can find it with apt-cache search (as long as you have backports in sources.list), or here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 02:36 | <cybes> | jm_ but the stable version package in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages doesn't has the kernel image that i'm installing |
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| 02:37 | <jm_> | cybes: select "any" for version and it will also find packages from backports |
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| 02:40 | <cybes> | please ..could you tell me the steps by which how you found that kernel..i've searched in package in any section for "kernel"and it only shows me kernel starting with 2.6 |
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| 02:41 | <jm_> | search for linux-image |
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| 02:42 | <cybes> | then also 2.6" versions |
| 02:42 | <cybes> | my new kernel installtion showed some firmware missing dialog ..should i paste it |
| 02:44 | <cybes> | http://paste.debian.net/195646 |
| 02:44 | <cybes> | jm_ thats the message during installtion waht to do??? |
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| 02:45 | <jm_> | cybes: do you use the r8169 driver? |
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| 02:47 | <cybes> | whats that?realtek |
| 02:47 | <cybes> | i didn't installed that driver by myself before |
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| 02:48 | <jm_> | lsmod|grep r8169 |
| 02:48 | <cybes> | http://paste.debian.net/195647 |
| 02:49 | <cybes> | jm_ here |
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| 02:49 | <cybes> | do i need to install the realtek driver for working the ehternet? |
| 02:49 | <cybes> | but i didn't do it before...and i didn't checked ehernet working or not before |
| 02:50 | <cybes> | do i need to install it jm_ |
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| 02:50 | <cybes> | the debian brcm installation is so easy than make |
| 02:51 | <cybes> | but you know before i has no connection and i only has the way of downloading it as a package from another system |
| 02:52 | <cybes> | jm_ what to do for the installtion of kernel should i click "ok" button |
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| 02:53 | <cybes> | for the firmware dialogue repot |
| 02:53 | <jm_> | cybes: depends on which rtl8169 chip it is, most don't need the firmware |
| 02:53 | <jm_> | cybes: sure, that's the only option you have :) |
| 02:54 | <cybes> | so how could i find the chip..i think rtl8169 is the chip ..right? |
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| 02:55 | <cybes> | i think kernel installation finished with the firmware missing warnings |
| 02:56 | <cybes> | jm_ |
| 02:56 | <jm_> | dmesg|grep r8169 |
| 02:56 | <cybes> | will i get sound after restarting dude?? |
| 02:56 | <cybes> | ok |
| 02:56 | <jm_> | i have no idea, assumption is that it shall help |
| 02:57 | <cybes> | dude that command returned nothing |
| 02:57 | <cybes> | dmesg |
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| 02:58 | <cybes> | jm_ |
| 02:58 | <jm_> | please stop abusing your enter key |
| 02:59 | <cybes> | abusing enter key? |
| 02:59 | <cybes> | i didn't get what you meant |
| 02:59 | <jm_> | !enter |
| 02:59 | <dpkg> | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 03:00 | <cybes> | oh ok..... |
| 03:00 | <jm_> | as a precaution download the firmware-realtek package from backports and install it if your ethernet adapter doesn't work with the new kernel |
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| 03:01 | <cybes> | but that command dmesg doesn't work ,..what does that indicate? |
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| 03:02 | <jm_> | probably that the info has long been replaced with something else in the kernel's ring buffer, nothing to worry about |
| 03:03 | <jm_> | you can run it immediately after boot to get the info |
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| 03:03 | <cybes> | ok..i typed "dmesg" only and i saw a lot of error@wl |
| 03:04 | <jm_> | yeah that explains why the info is no longer there |
| 03:04 | <cybes> | ok dude i'm going to reboot and hope that sound works with the new kernel |
| 03:05 | <cybes> | thanks again |
| 03:05 | <jm_> | no worries |
| 03:06 | <cybes> | but dude about that wireless firmware how can i install it in the debian way if i has no internet connection after rebooting with new kernel |
| 03:08 | <cybes> | jm_? |
| 03:08 | <jm_> | which wireless firmware? |
| 03:08 | <cybes> | brcm4313 |
| 03:09 | <cybes> | you said using apt-get....how can i use it if i got no internet connection |
| 03:09 | <cybes> | in this system |
| 03:09 | <jm_> | how do you connect to internet? |
| 03:09 | <cybes> | wireless |
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| 03:10 | <cybes> | using wifi |
| 03:10 | <jm_> | then you'll need to download it in advance (say now), or use another computer |
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| 03:10 | <cybes> | download the source package as i said earlier right? |
| 03:11 | <cybes> | or will i get the debian package for download now |
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| 03:13 | <jm_> | you'll need all the things mentioned on the debian wifi page |
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| 03:14 | <cybes> | i've searched for the package in non-free but no results |
| 03:14 | <cybes> | for downloading |
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| 03:15 | <jm_> | I don't know which package you are refering to |
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| 03:16 | <cybes> | firmware-brcm80211 wireless-tools |
| 03:17 | <cybes> | i've searched for this package to download now..for installing it after rebooting ..but no results found |
| 03:18 | <jm_> | wireless-tools is in main, firmware-brcm80211 is on bpo in non-free |
| 03:18 | <cybes> | oh sorry i thought it was one package...my bad |
| 03:18 | <cybes> | sorry jm_ |
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| 03:21 | <cybes> | hey but that is also a source package..i need to make and install it as before jm_: |
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| 03:23 | <cybes> | jm_ |
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| 03:26 | <cybes> | ok i'm going to reboot and install it as before ...right..because i think i can't just install a firmware as a debian package..i only find source package of that firmware |
| 03:26 | <jm_> | what are you talking about? what is a source package? |
| 03:26 | <cybes> | Package: firmware-brcm80211 (0.28+squeeze1) [non-free] |
| 03:26 | <cybes> | its a source package |
| 03:27 | <jm_> | no it's not |
| 03:27 | <cybes> | then what is it? |
| 03:27 | <jm_> | it's a binary package in non-free section |
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| 03:27 | <cybes> | what should i download ..the .tar |
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| 03:27 | <cybes> | [firmware-nonfree_0.28+squeeze1.tar.gz] |
| 03:28 | <cybes> | its under download source package |
| 03:28 | <jm_> | no, install it using apt ... |
| 03:28 | <cybes> | OMG..dude how can i install it if i got no working connection on this system after i reboot with the new kernel |
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| 03:29 | <jm_> | for fucks sake, install it *now* |
| 03:29 | <cybes> | :) |
| 03:29 | <cybes> | oh ok so will i use it after rebooting |
| 03:29 | <jm_> | yes |
| 03:30 | <cybes> | dude....now its logical |
| 03:30 | <cybes> | :):)lol |
| 03:30 | <cybes> | thanks for helping me out |
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| 03:31 | <cybes> | cybes sometimes thinks himself as a nerd |
| 03:31 | <cybes> | :) |
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| 03:31 | <cybes> | BTW jm_ how come you here?are you working here |
| 03:31 | <cybes> | in debian |
| 03:32 | <cybes> | or a system admin or sorta like that |
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| 03:32 | <jm_> | cybes: no, I'm just long time debian user |
| 03:32 | <cybes> | so now what are you doing ?i meant job? |
| 03:33 | <jm_> | i work as lab support for an enterprise management product |
| 03:34 | <cybes> | cool..so now you working or at home.. |
| 03:34 | <cybes> | *now* |
| 03:34 | <cybes> | at this moment |
| 03:35 | <jm_> | at work |
| 03:35 | <cybes> | :) |
| 03:36 | <cybes> | so dude..i'm going to restart my sytem and check if all things are right ..if its right i'll only be back later coz i need to play GTA4 else if nothing worked i'll be back here nwo itself... |
| 03:36 | <cybes> | :) |
| 03:36 | <cybes> | icecool dude |
| 03:36 | <cybes> | see ya |
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| 03:53 | <philipp> | penis |
| 03:53 | <philipp> | i abused |
| 03:53 | <philipp> | gonna kick me? :P |
| 03:54 | <stderr> | I'm just going to ignore you... |
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| 03:54 | <perlwizard> | philipp this is a support channel |
| 03:54 | <perlwizard> | do you need help with something? |
| 03:55 | <weasel> | so, now we know what to expect from students at FH Wien. |
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| 03:55 | <weasel> | I wonder if their IT services has an opinion on the behavior |
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| 03:57 | <philipp> | dont be rasistic... im just a poor student... |
| 03:57 | <philipp> | ignoreing ist the best u can do with trolls |
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| 03:58 | -!- | philipp was kicked from #debian by weasel [maybe.] |
| 03:58 | <stderr> | :-) |
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| 04:02 | <planetmaker> | hehe :-) |
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| 04:17 | <kaka81> | hi @all. I've a problem with loading usbcore parameters on startup. I added a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ with "options usbcore autosuspend=-1" but this parameter isn't set because in /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend "2" is shown but should be -1. Has anyone an idea why it isn't set correctly? thank you all in advance |
| 04:18 | <kaka81> | additional information: this parameter must be set before usbcore is loading |
| 04:22 | <jm_> | did you also run update-initramfs after adding the file? |
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| 04:24 | <kaka81> | not yet. just started with -u -t parameters, would take a while |
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| 04:26 | <kaka81> | YEAHHHH!!! it works!! thank you very much!! :) |
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| 04:30 | <jm_> | no worries |
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| 05:39 | <sergiu> | hello guys |
| 05:40 | <Maulkin> | hi |
| 05:40 | <sergiu> | I messed up some configurations, and everytime I log in gdm, it says something like "could not update .ICEauthority" |
| 05:40 | <sergiu> | what the hell is wrong there? |
| 05:40 | <sergiu> | I erased it |
| 05:40 | <melmothX> | sergiu: ls -lh ~/.ICEauthority |
| 05:40 | <sergiu> | and still the same |
| 05:41 | <sergiu> | and btw, I just change the permissions to 777 |
| 05:41 | <sergiu> | :D |
| 05:41 | <sergiu> | in home directory |
| 05:41 | <sergiu> | 0 -rwxrwxrwx 1 sergiu sergiu 0 Oct 2 08:14 /home/sergiu/.ICEauthority |
| 05:41 | <sergiu> | melmothX ^^^ |
| 05:41 | <sergiu> | this is what it says... |
| 05:42 | <melmothX> | now is too late to indagate |
| 05:42 | <sergiu> | I already have headache ... |
| 05:42 | <sergiu> | ? |
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| 05:42 | <sergiu> | well... I will restart now and see if anything has change |
| 05:43 | <Maulkin> | sergiu: ls -lhd ~/ |
| 05:43 | <sergiu> | I messed up the persmissions pretty well |
| 05:43 | <Maulkin> | sergiu: Sounds like it. |
| 05:43 | <melmothX> | which “configurations” did you “mess up” |
| 05:43 | <sergiu> | I do not remember...I followed several tutorials... |
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| 05:44 | <sergiu> | and...I already do not know |
| 05:44 | <melmothX> | that's the reccomended way to screw up. Following “tutorials” without knowing what you are doing |
| 05:45 | <sergiu> | Maulkin, melmothX : could "chmod -R 777 /home/sergiu/" fix the problem? |
| 05:45 | <melmothX> | lol |
| 05:45 | <sergiu> | or what permission is suited best there? |
| 05:45 | <melmothX> | are you insane? |
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| 05:45 | <themill> | !777 |
| 05:45 | <dpkg> | 777 is the mode corresponding to -rwxrwxrwx and is NEVER the right answer to your permission "problems". Anyone on your box (whether welcome or not) can do anything they want with those directories and files. It is VERY WRONG... learn how to use the permissions properly instead of leaving a gaping security hole to make something work in a hurry. Ask me about <user private groups>, <permissions>, <ftp must die>. |
| 05:45 | <sergiu> | memothX...no, just desperate |
| 05:45 | <devil> | melmothX: just clueless ;) |
| 05:46 | <sergiu> | devil, I know what it does; I just don't have time to fix it properly |
| 05:47 | <devil> | sergiu: take the time |
| 05:47 | <babilen> | sergiu: Why don't you start with the output of the command Maulkin mentioned earlier? (i.e. "ls -lhd ~/") |
| 05:48 | <sergiu> | drwxrwxrwx 28 sergiu sergiu 4.0K Oct 3 04:39 /home/sergiu/ |
| 05:48 | <sergiu> | here it is |
| 05:48 | <sergiu> | I alredy pushed the button... |
| 05:48 | <melmothX> | it's already screwed up |
| 05:48 | <sergiu> | it's aready 777 |
| 05:48 | <peter1138> | o_O |
| 05:48 | <melmothX> | good luck, now you keep the pieces of the broken toy |
| 05:48 | <peter1138> | delete yourself |
| 05:48 | <sergiu> | :D |
| 05:48 | <peter1138> | and add yourself a new user :p |
| 05:49 | <sergiu> | peter1138 |
| 05:49 | <sergiu> | thanks |
| 05:49 | <sergiu> | will do that in a minute |
| 05:49 | <peter1138> | (you could add a new user to test anyway) |
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| 05:49 | <babilen> | sergiu: And it would also help if you could tell us what you've done before - "normally" deleting ~/.ICEauthority should fix it as it is just recreated.. |
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| 05:51 | <babilen> | Or just leave ... |
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| 05:52 | <s1ck> | Hi! I dont know whether this is the right place to ask, but I have an issue with my grub configuration on wheezy/testing |
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| 05:52 | <s1ck> | how can I update my grub config? there is no update-grub command |
| 05:52 | <babilen> | s1ck: You could take it to #debian-next, but this channel is not too bad |
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| 05:52 | <s1ck> | babilen, will try thanks |
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| 06:40 | <melvin> | Hi, i just installed wheezy and then kde with wpasupplicant wirelestools network-manager-kde but i can't get my wifi to work. i remember this happened to me before with gnome and it got fixed when i installed gdm3, can someone please lead me in the right direction |
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| 06:45 | <ectospasm> | melvin: do you know if you need a binary firmware blob for your adapter? |
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| 06:46 | <melvin> | yeah, i installed it with firmware-b43-lpphy |
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| 06:47 | <ectospasm> | melvin: does dmesg report that it loaded OK? |
| 06:47 | <melvin> | i remember reading somewhere that gdm3 included something that made wifi work correctly. but i can't find that page. |
| 06:47 | <melvin> | let me check, |
| 06:47 | <ectospasm> | that sounds improbable, since gdm3 should be independent of the network... unless you're allowing network logins... |
| 06:48 | <melvin> | no i am not |
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| 06:48 | <melvin> | sorry, i am a newb how can i narrow down dmesg output |
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| 06:48 | <melvin> | oh it says Hi, i just installed wheezy and then kde with wpasupplicant wirelestools network-manager-kde but i can't get my wifi to work. i remember this happened to me before with gnome and it got fixed when i installed gdm3, can someone please lead me in the right direction |
| 06:49 | <melvin> | oops disregard |
| 06:49 | <melvin> | wrong paste |
| 06:49 | <melvin> | [ 119.320080] wlan0: authentication with c0:3f:0e:de:0c:c7 timed out |
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| 07:39 | <kikinovak> | Hi. I have a rather specific request. I know Debian Wheezy comes with GCC 4.7.1 and Firefox 10.0.x ESR. The latter is a bit tricky to build on the former, so I'd like to figure out how the Debian folks did it. Q: what's the easiest way to take a peek at a Debian compilation script? Where are these to find? |
| 07:41 | <weasel> | download the source package, look in debian/ |
| 07:41 | <kikinovak> | Is there a way I can do that without installing Debian on a sandbox machine (right now I'm running a mix of Slackware 13.37 and 14.0 in my office) |
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| 07:41 | <kikinovak> | ? |
| 07:42 | <weasel> | download the .dsc file in question, look at what other files it references, fetch those. |
| 07:42 | <kikinovak> | and where is that .dsc file to find ? |
| 07:43 | <weasel> | for instance http://mozilla.debian.net/pool/iceweasel-esr/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_10.0.4esr-3~bpo60+1.dsc |
| 07:43 | <kikinovak> | weasel: thank you very much for your help ! |
| 07:43 | <weasel> | this is a bit of an atypical package, as it apparently references scores of source tarballs |
| 07:43 | <weasel> | usually you only have two other files, an orig.tar.gz (the upstream release, basically) and either a diff.gz or a debian.tar.gz for debian/ |
| 07:44 | <weasel> | maybe fetching the debian.tar.gz would be sufficient for what you want to know also |
| 07:44 | <kikinovak> | Looks like 99% of the extra files are the localization packages. |
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| 07:46 | <kikinovak> | The thing is: the sources have to be patched at some point to build with GCC 4.7.1. And I'd like to either download the patches or at least grasp their content. |
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| 07:47 | <jm_> | kikinovak: perhaps looking into the source repository will reveal something -- links are here http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel.html |
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| 07:51 | <kikinovak> | ok, I found the patches. Or rather... the patch forest :o( |
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| 07:53 | <kikinovak> | On the other hand, all those Debian patches seem to be quite explicitly named... I already found a few candidates. |
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| 07:55 | <suppa> | hello |
| 07:55 | <kikinovak> | OK, I think I have a good starting point here. (If you wonder what I'm possibly doing here: creating packages for Firefox ESR and Thunderbird ESR for Slackware 13.37 and 14.0, for our school network.) |
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| 07:57 | <kikinovak> | I'll keep you posted about the outcome of all this. Thanks a lot, guys ! |
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| 07:58 | <grammoboy> | I've funambol running on my Debian server http://sourceforge.net/projects/funambol/ |
| 07:59 | <grammoboy> | but after reboot I've to restart it with |
| 07:59 | <grammoboy> | cd /opt/Funambol/bin/ |
| 07:59 | <grammoboy> | ./funambol start |
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| 07:59 | <grammoboy> | how do I make this auto at startup? |
| 07:59 | <jm_> | grammoboy: write an init script for it (see /etc/init.d/skeleton) |
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| 08:00 | <perlwizard> | grammoboy put needed startup commands in /etc/rc.local file (before exit 0) |
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| 08:04 | <grammoboy> | the command needs to be run as root afaik |
| 08:04 | <jm_> | either way will do that |
| 08:04 | <grammoboy> | rc.local seems to be an easy way |
| 08:05 | <grammoboy> | thx |
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| 08:06 | <suppa> | hello |
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| 08:08 | <grammoboy> | /opt/Funambol/bin/./funambol start |
| 08:08 | <grammoboy> | exit 0 |
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| 08:10 | <grammoboy> | there are days you hate linux, |
| 08:10 | <grammoboy> | there are days you truly love it, this is such a day :) |
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| 08:12 | <nevyn> | all software sucks |
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| 08:15 | <grammoboy> | heh |
| 08:15 | <grammoboy> | don't use it then |
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| 08:21 | <haylo> | is there a channel discussing the specifics of debian debootstrap install process? |
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| 08:23 | <babilen> | haylo: I'm not aware of one |
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| 08:26 | <haylo> | ok, thanks babilen |
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| 08:49 | <knobo> | I'm trying to install debian on a virtualbox with Netinst, when I come to dhcp configuration, it says "no default route was set". |
| 08:50 | <knobo> | the dhcp server is allso in a virtualbox and the network is a host-only net. |
| 08:50 | <knobo> | dhcpdump says that dhcpd is sending routers (OPTION: 3 ( 4) Rtouters 192.168.56.1) |
| 08:50 | <knobo> | dhcpd.leases has only a server-duid line |
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| 09:08 | <AlexCT28> | org |
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| 09:08 | <movl> | amen, brotha |
| 09:08 | <movl> | don't forget to write() |
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| 10:19 | <Mmang> | yo |
| 10:19 | <Mmang> | what exactly is dbus anyway? |
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| 10:20 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 508] by debhelper |
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| 10:21 | <babilen> | !tell Mmang -about dbus |
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| 10:22 | <Mmang> | ty |
| 10:24 | <babilen> | Mmang: It is, generally speaking, also a good idea to use search engines such as Google, Yahoo, DuckDuckGo, Bing, Altavista, ... to search the indices of webpages. you might like http://www.googleguide.com/advanced_operators_reference.html |
| 10:24 | <Mmang> | of course |
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| 10:24 | <Pitxyoki> | !dbus |
| 10:24 | <dpkg> | D-Bus (Desktop Bus) is an <IPC> system for software to communicate with each other. The dbus-1-doc package contains the API documentation along with the protocol specification. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DBusAnalogy http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/ #dbus on irc.freenode.net. See also <dbus shutdown>. |
| 10:24 | <Mmang> | ive just been too lazy and busy with other things |
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| 10:24 | <babilen> | !tell Pitxyoki -about msgthebot |
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| 10:24 | <Mmang> | but it keeps showing up and I was just wondering :P |
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| 10:25 | <Pitxyoki> | Sorry, babilen. |
| 10:25 | <Mmang> | is there any advantage to duckduckgo? |
| 10:25 | <babilen> | Mmang: Well, keep in mind that every question you ask in here is read by multiple people who will then spend some time to think about it. |
| 10:25 | <Pitxyoki> | Mmang, I find it shows worse results than I expected. |
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| 10:26 | <babilen> | → #debian-offtopic please |
| 10:27 | <Mmang> | of course, I am not as big as a newb as you may expect. I hope to be one of those guys answering the questions some time |
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| 10:28 | <Mmang> | i like the free software community and environment although many people might view me as a little weird for not jumping on the winblows bandwagon :P |
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| 10:30 | <Mmang> | anyone use ampache? |
| 10:31 | <Mmang> | sounds pretty neat from its descriptions |
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| 10:32 | <AcerbusKnight> | Hello - I'm running Wheezy - rdesktop causes Xorg to run at 70 - 100 % - any thoughts ? |
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| 10:32 | <Pitxyoki> | AcerbusKnight: checked bugs.debian.org already? |
| 10:32 | <Mmang> | check xorg |
| 10:34 | <AcerbusKnight> | Still looking @ bugs. - haven't found anything related to wheezy yet |
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| 10:35 | <SynrG> | AcerbusKnight: rdesktop? why not xfreerdp? |
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| 10:36 | <SynrG> | AcerbusKnight: xfreerdp is provided by the freerdp-x11 package. |
| 10:36 | <AcerbusKnight> | haven't tried xfreerdp before - I'll give it a go |
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| 10:38 | <SynrG> | AcerbusKnight: some of the good stuff is provided by plugins, and i find the debian man page a bit deficient wrt. that |
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| 10:39 | <SynrG> | AcerbusKnight: e.g. --plugin cliprdr to provide clipboard redirection, which i find essential. |
| 10:39 | <AcerbusKnight> | Thanks for the suggestions - I will try shortly |
| 10:40 | <AcerbusKnight> | Although I still wouldn't mind figuring the rdesktop issue out (can't let a puzzle go) |
| 10:40 | <SynrG> | k |
| 10:40 | <SynrG> | upstream git for freerdp has updated man page, in any case |
| 10:41 | <SynrG> | (committed 16 days ago) |
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| 10:41 | <SynrG> | so the poor debian doc isn't debian's fault, really |
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| 10:50 | <Mmang> | my whois displays some very strange information on very popular domains like google.com any thoughts? |
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| 10:53 | <Pitxyoki> | What is some very strange information? |
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| 11:02 | <blast007> | Mmang: I see odd stuff here as well. |
| 11:03 | <Mmang> | where u at? |
| 11:03 | <Mmang> | markmoniter is seemly the sulprit |
| 11:03 | <Mmang> | for me anyway |
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| 11:07 | <dev> | waht |
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| 11:35 | <Mmang> | here |
| 11:35 | <Mmang> | is an ex of a whois output |
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| 11:36 | <Mmang> | whois google.com |
| 11:36 | <Mmang> | Server Name: GOOGLE.COM.ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.LOVE.AND.TOLERANCE.THE-WONDERBOLTS.COM |
| 11:36 | <Mmang> | IP Address: 50.62.130.9 |
| 11:36 | <Mmang> | Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC |
| 11:36 | <Mmang> | Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com |
| 11:36 | <Mmang> | Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com |
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| 11:50 | <ext5> | why set channel limits?? |
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| 11:50 | <babilen> | ext5: Join floods - Also: Don't worry about it |
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| 11:52 | <ext5> | what do you mean dont worry. who are you? sounding shady |
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| 11:52 | <pajaro> | why dpkg -l '*' does not show all the packages? what packages does it show? |
| 11:53 | <babilen> | ext5: Do you mind if I /msg you? |
| 11:53 | <themill> | pajaro: it shows packages that dpkg is tracking the status of. dpkg != apt so it isn't tracking every package that you could possible isntall |
| 11:53 | <pajaro> | simply dpkg -l shows all packages installed and removed |
| 11:53 | <pajaro> | themill, what packages dpkg is aware of then? |
| 11:54 | <ext5> | babilen: ya mesg me in the open i have nothing to hide |
| 11:54 | <themill> | ones that it has installed, removed, purged but not yet been removed from its status database |
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| 11:55 | <pajaro> | so dpkg db is different from apt... or dpkg is using one like a cache? |
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| 11:55 | <themill> | dpkg and apt do quite different things so they track different things differently |
| 11:55 | <dpkg> | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, themill |
| 11:55 | <themill> | dpkg, shush |
| 11:55 | <dpkg> | Fine, I'll shut up. |
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| 11:57 | <pajaro> | its easy to explain an overall sight or very complicated and i will never understand without looking all the mans? |
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| 11:58 | <pajaro> | http://wiki.debian.org/dpkg does not explain a lot u.u |
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| 11:59 | <pajaro> | also i already read the debian-reference about dpkg/apt-get/aptitude (although i think some of the things are a little outdated) |
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| 12:01 | <pajaro> | how much did u miss themill? :) |
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| 12:02 | <themill> | pajaro: I don't know what you're wanting to know... |
| 12:03 | <pajaro> | well.. the conection between dpkg and apt-get |
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| 12:03 | <pajaro> | and how make sense to have 2 different dbs |
| 12:03 | <pajaro> | duplicate work? complementary? |
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| 12:08 | <themill> | pajaro: as a user, you'll mostly only ever talk to apt. What dpkg is doing and how it does it isn't important to you when you're installing or removing packages. |
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| 12:11 | <pajaro> | well, most people i know check status of a package by doing dpkg -l X or X* |
| 12:11 | <pajaro> | the apt way would be apt-cache show package |
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| 12:12 | <pajaro> | its not as nice |
| 12:12 | <pajaro> | so its not like im not interacting with dpkg at all |
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| 12:13 | <pajaro> | maybe there is a third way im missing |
| 12:13 | <themill> | pajaro: apt-cache policy packagename. But it depends on what you mean by "check the status of a package". "dpkg -l packagename" is quite fine for that too |
| 12:13 | <pajaro> | also i was wondering for the total number of pacakges in main, contrib, ... and so i was trying to figuring a way to find out that info that must be hidding somewhere in my system |
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| 12:14 | <pajaro> | yeah, and a simple * at some point will show you a nice table telling you if installed, purged, removed.... and a description... |
| 12:14 | <pajaro> | not impossible but its harder to get that info with apt |
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| 12:15 | <pajaro> | thats why ppl tend to use dpkg... even tho dpkg does not know about every package repository wide and apt shold be in charge of that task |
| 12:15 | <pajaro> | that kind of query* |
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| 12:23 | <g0nd0r> | hi i am newbie |
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| 12:25 | <retrospectacus> | g0nd0r: if you have a question, just ask: |
| 12:25 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
| 12:25 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 12:26 | <g0nd0r> | that only the minimum requirements for Debian since I have seen that there are 6 dvd to download and install |
| 12:27 | <g0nd0r> | sorry for my bad English |
| 12:28 | <retrospectacus> | g0nd0r: those contain all the software packages you can install on debian |
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| 12:29 | <ichdasich> | g0nd0r: maybe take a look at the hispanic channel? |
| 12:29 | <retrospectacus> | to install debian you will need only one CD or DVD |
| 12:29 | <ichdasich> | !es |
| 12:29 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 12:29 | <simon_> | g0nd0r, the minimum requirement for Debian in the release notes, depends what you are installing it on. You can do a network install which requires only a small download and then install only packages you need from the network. The general advice is don't make CDs, and if you have to make a CD make one with the network installer. |
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| 12:32 | <g0nd0r> | Thanks for the suggestions |
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| 13:14 | <fenix> | :| |
| 13:14 | <retrospectacus> | :D |
| 13:15 | <fenix> | Fenix Progama Ruim :@ |
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| 13:15 | <retrospectacus> | !br |
| 13:15 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 13:16 | <fenix> | Chat Inglês? |
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| 13:17 | <retrospectacus> | Fenix: English only here. |
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| 13:17 | <fenix> | FUIII NUM INTENDE PORCARIA NENHUMA :| |
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| 13:18 | <retrospectacus> | ENGLISH! |
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| 13:18 | <AlexLikeRock> | calm down retro |
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| 13:34 | <movl> | non-English fun again? |
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| 14:02 | <grammoboy> | hm just bougt a qnas nas to put debian on it |
| 14:02 | <grammoboy> | it has WD black drives WD1001FALS |
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| 14:02 | <grammoboy> | and they seem to have problems with raid |
| 14:02 | <grammoboy> | hm |
| 14:03 | <grammoboy> | I'm new into this, so i like to get helped understanding things a bit |
| 14:03 | <grammoboy> | http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/258088-14-drives-raid-arrays#t1804633 |
| 14:03 | <grammoboy> | when I'm installing Debian on a qnap server |
| 14:04 | <grammoboy> | I'm doing software raid? |
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| 14:04 | <grammoboy> | (I thinking about raid 1) |
| 14:05 | <grammoboy> | Do I need to enable TLER on the drives or not |
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| 14:06 | <SynrG> | !tell grammoboy about fakeraid |
| 14:07 | <SynrG> | no. use software raid. problem solved |
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| 14:07 | <grammoboy> | so normal 'default' Debian raid install and it should be ok? |
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| 14:13 | <grammoboy> | huh? so not this way http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
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| 14:13 | <grammoboy> | !tell grammoboy about md |
| 14:13 | <grammoboy> | hm |
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| 14:14 | <SynrG> | !tell grammoboy about self-tell |
| 14:14 | <grammoboy> | k |
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| 14:18 | <grammoboy> | so I think I need this 6.3.3.4. Configuring Multidisk Devices (Software RAID) |
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| 14:19 | <grammoboy> | thx |
| 14:19 | <SynrG> | aye |
| 14:19 | <grammoboy> | no TLER pfew |
| 14:19 | <SynrG> | sorry, should've pointed you at the md factoid too, but you found it :) |
| 14:19 | <grammoboy> | yep was confusing at first, but it keeps myself sharp I guess |
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| 14:22 | <Sicelo> | a virtualbox question .. if i use 'Save Machine State' in vbox 4.0.10_Debian r72436, i have a problem with the time reported in the vm. the time also freezes, and continues fom the 'saved time state'. is it something i'm configuring wrong or something? |
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| 14:29 | <TobiX> | Sicelo: Is the hardware clock correct? "sudo hwclock -r" |
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| 14:32 | <ralu> | how do i set up two displays? I have currently two same images on both laptop and Hdmi and different resolution. But having 2 different images in each display would be better |
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| 14:32 | <TobiX> | !randr |
| 14:32 | <dpkg> | The X Resize, Rotate and Reflect Extension (RandR) allows the server to inform clients of desktop size (etc) changes, so they can update themselves. http://x.org/wiki/Projects/XRandR . Ask me about <xrandr>. |
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| 14:33 | <TobiX> | ralu: Use the xrandr command line tool or any GUI (arandr for example) |
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| 14:35 | <Sicelo> | TobiX: hwclock is fine |
| 14:35 | <retrospectacus> | I use nvidia-settings for that. |
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| 14:35 | <ralu> | i dont have nvidia |
| 14:36 | <TobiX> | Sicelo: Linux keeps it clock in userspace, which doesn't notice the VM was suspended |
| 14:36 | <ralu> | thanx TobiX |
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| 14:36 | <TobiX> | retrospectacus: Yeah, Nvidia never wants to play nice with the X server :( |
| 14:36 | <retrospectacus> | ralu: you may try the "monitors" preferences screen |
| 14:36 | <retrospectacus> | works great for me :) |
| 14:37 | <Sicelo> | yes, i'm aware of that. is it possible to get vbox to 'sync' with hwclock each time? |
| 14:37 | <blast007> | Sicelo: installing the guest additions into the VM might help with that. |
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| 14:37 | <TobiX> | Sicelo: The guest extensions do that, but maybe it was added after 4.0.10... |
| 14:37 | <Sicelo> | eew |
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| 14:38 | <TobiX> | Sicelo: There is a guest-extension package for Debian ;) |
| 14:38 | <Sicelo> | i will try Guest Additions, ye.. because i have also just found http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#idp20775216 |
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| 14:40 | <grammoboy> | you don't make a /home partition when partitioning for raid 1? |
| 14:40 | <retrospectacus> | if you don't want to, you don't... |
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| 14:40 | <SynrG> | there's nothing about raid that dictates how you should or should not partition |
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| 14:51 | <grammoboy> | ok |
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| 14:55 | <ralu> | i am playing on dual monitors with adding extra displays, that is just great |
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| 14:55 | <ralu> | *pannels |
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| 15:24 | <om> | heeeelllo there |
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| 15:24 | <retrospectacus> | hi again om |
| 15:24 | <joot_> | hy men. canal en español cual es? |
| 15:24 | <retrospectacus> | !es |
| 15:24 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 15:24 | <om> | any idea how to use iceweasel with the common firefox's plugins? i'd like to install the web developer toolbar but it says it's not compatible with my firefox version.. hi again retrospectacus |
| 15:25 | <babilen> | om: You can install a newer Iceweasel version from http://mozilla.debian.net or backports (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 15:25 | <retrospectacus> | om: you probably just need a newer version of IW - it is fully compatible with firefox extensions |
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| 15:25 | <retrospectacus> | om: what babilen said |
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| 15:25 | <om> | oh my god, you guys are my salvation :) |
| 15:26 | <om> | i'll msg the omnipotent dpkg |
| 15:26 | <retrospectacus> | he's omniscient, not omnipotent |
| 15:26 | <om> | you're damn right. |
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| 15:27 | <retrospectacus> | or she... I forget |
| 15:28 | <om> | i think 'it' is the one you're looking for :P |
| 15:29 | <retrospectacus> | anyways the directions on http://mozilla.debian.net are all you need. You can learn lots from dpkg anytime though |
| 15:30 | <om> | i always forget because at this time of the day i'm reaaally tired and i would have to go to bed.. |
| 15:31 | <om> | is it 'profane' to install some closed-source software on debian, such as skype? |
| 15:32 | <retrospectacus> | yes |
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| 15:32 | <retrospectacus> | but dpkg can tell you how to do that as well, anyways |
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| 15:36 | <devil> | om: it is profane on 32 bits. if 3rd party stuff has no native 65-bit version and your install is amd-64, the fun might begin right there |
| 15:37 | <devil> | om: specialy as debian is moving from ia-32 to multi-arch atm |
| 15:37 | * | retrospectacus can't wait to install debian 65-bit |
| 15:37 | <om> | this one thing is pretty spectacular actually. lol retrospectacus |
| 15:37 | <devil> | retrospectacus: :) |
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| 15:38 | <devil> | one bit more or less.... |
| 15:39 | <retrospectacus> | it means we can address negative memory right? |
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| 15:49 | <grammoboy> | I've a nas server with 500 gb hdd, I want to upgrade to two hdd with raid |
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| 15:50 | <grammoboy> | can I copy the 500 gb debian root system to the new 1tb hdd's in some way? |
| 15:50 | <grammoboy> | And what is a proper way to do that? |
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| 15:57 | <dondelelcaro> | grammoboy: how do you want the two new drives to be set up? raid1? or something else? |
| 15:57 | <grammoboy> | dondelelcaro, raid 1 |
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| 15:57 | <grammoboy> | all though I just read: |
| 15:57 | <grammoboy> | "If you use software RAID, you may find |
| 15:57 | <grammoboy> | that the Debian installer is unable to install grub unless you use a |
| 15:58 | <dondelelcaro> | grammoboy: ok; in that case, you can just configure the raid partition, boot off of a rescue media, and then dcfldd if=/dev/sd<500gb> of=/dev/md0; or whatever is correct. You'll probably also need to rerun grub-install. |
| 15:58 | <peterS> | next question: can you plug all 3 drives in at the same time, or can you only plug in 2 at a time (in which case the migration is more complex as you have to do it in 2 stages, first plugging one new drive in along with the old, and later replacing the old with the second new) |
| 15:58 | <dondelelcaro> | (or use dd instead of dcfldd) |
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| 15:59 | <grammoboy> | only 2 drives |
| 15:59 | <dondelelcaro> | grammoboy: then you'll have to set up the raid array as degraded, and then do the copy, then stick the second drive in, and repair the raid array. |
| 15:59 | <dondelelcaro> | assuming you're using linux software raid. If you're using fakeraid or some other hardware raid, refer to the documentation for that raid on how to do it |
| 16:00 | <grammoboy> | software raid |
| 16:00 | <grammoboy> | as degraded? |
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| 16:00 | <dondelelcaro> | grammoboy: yes; a raid1 array with only one drive is degraded until the second drive is in and it's been resynced. |
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| 16:01 | <grammoboy> | the old drive is 500gb, the new one is 1tb |
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| 16:02 | <grammoboy> | root partitions might differ |
| 16:02 | <grammoboy> | in size |
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| 16:02 | <dondelelcaro> | grammoboy: they will be the same until you make them larger. You first want to copy the data, then worry about making the partitions larer. |
| 16:02 | <dondelelcaro> | s/larer/larger/ |
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| 16:04 | <grammoboy> | dondelelcaro, so making a degraded raid, with the same root partition size as the 500gb drive has? |
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| 16:04 | <peterS> | grammoboy: start by plugging in the first 1T disk. Partition it as you wish, with a raid partition and perhaps a swap partition and whatnot |
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| 16:05 | <peterS> | grammoboy: then use 'mdadm' to create a raid1 array on the raid partition - this will be your root filesystem. you can specify 'missing' as one of the two devices you give to mdadm, to create a degraded array |
| 16:05 | <om> | damn audio... it's gone again!!! and i'm toooo tired to fix it now.... but how can it change at every boot??? i followed the instructions that dpkg gave me by letter.... :?: |
| 16:05 | <peterS> | grammoboy: at this point you should have a /dev/md0. You can either copy the partition raw, like dondelelcaro suggests, or you can copy the filesystem, which is how I'd do it |
| 16:06 | <peterS> | grammoboy: to copy the filesystem, I'd simplify by bind-mounting root: mkdir /mnt/old /mnt/new; mount --bind / /mnt/old |
| 16:06 | <peterS> | then mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0 or however you want to handle the new root filesystem |
| 16:06 | <peterS> | then mount /dev/md0 /mnt/new |
| 16:06 | <grammoboy> | thx, I'll do it step by step and will ask for futher advise if I need it |
| 16:06 | <peterS> | then cp -a /mnt/old/* /mnt/new |
| 16:06 | <peterS> | which will take awhile |
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| 16:07 | <grammoboy> | Im totally new to raid and stuff, so ... |
| 16:07 | <peterS> | Then 'grub-install /dev/sdb' where sdb is whatever the new SCSI disk happens to be |
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| 16:08 | <grammoboy> | do I need a /boot partition for raid? |
| 16:08 | <peterS> | my point is, if you copy the _filesystem_ instead of the _device_, you don't have to worry about partition sizes. But you do still have to worry about some grub stuff to make sure the thing will boot. |
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| 16:08 | <peterS> | you don't really need a /boot these days, no |
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| 16:08 | <grammoboy> | ok |
| 16:09 | <peterS> | if you were dealing in disks >= 2T, you would need a special grub boot partition, for technical reasons involving partition formats, but you're not, so you don't |
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| 16:09 | <rudi_s> | (You need a /boot partition if you use an encrypted disk without an external boot medium, e.g. an USB stick.) |
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| 16:10 | <grammoboy> | I don't think I encrypt it |
| 16:10 | <grammoboy> | it's for desktop usage in home environment |
| 16:11 | <grammoboy> | afterward encrypting might be possible? |
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| 16:13 | <evan> | Hello |
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| 16:14 | <evan> | I am wondering why I do not have a man page for gcc |
| 16:14 | <rika> | Do you have it installed? |
| 16:14 | <evan> | yes |
| 16:15 | <Nemoder> | gcc or gcc-doc? |
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| 16:15 | <evan> | just gcc |
| 16:16 | <benabderrahmanemed> | Hi every one |
| 16:16 | <rika> | Hello. |
| 16:17 | <rudi_s> | grammoboy: No. You need to reformat/repartition the drive. So when you start encrypting it you'll have to backup/restore the data anway, so don't worry. |
| 16:17 | <torjeh> | evan, In my /usr/share/doc/gcc/README.Debian it says most of the documentation for gcc is licensed under GFDL and therefore not included in the main section. |
| 16:17 | <rudi_s> | evan: Install gcc-doc |
| 16:17 | <benabderrahmanemed> | is there someone who know python programmation ? |
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| 16:18 | <rika> | I know a small bit, but probably not enough to help out if you can't find the answer for your question online. |
| 16:18 | <evan> | gcc-doc has no installation candidate |
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| 16:18 | <rudi_s> | evan: It's in contrib. |
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| 16:19 | <benabderrahmanemed> | OK RIKA THNX |
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| 16:19 | <rudi_s> | And it depends on stuff which is non-free as torjeh explained. |
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| 16:20 | <evan> | okay thank you all |
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| 16:20 | <rudi_s> | np |
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| 16:22 | <retrospectacus> | benabderrahmanemed: go to #python on irc.oftc.net |
| 16:22 | <retrospectacus> | which is here, so type /j #python |
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| 16:27 | <nmschulte> | Debian Squeeze: I'm having issues with a Python script that uses gi.repository for libnotify and libglib (gobject). I have python-gobject installed, but I still get: ImportError: module gi.repository not found |
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| 16:29 | <watzab> | bsr |
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| 16:39 | <retrospectacus> | benabderrahmanemed: join #python on irc.freenode.net - lots of people there |
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| 16:42 | <benabderrahmanemed> | ok thnx man |
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| 16:42 | <watzab> | bse |
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| 16:42 | <watzab> | bsr |
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| 16:42 | <retrospectacus> | watzab: do you have a debian question? |
| 16:43 | <watzab> | oui |
| 16:43 | <watzab> | comment je peux crack un cle wifi |
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| 16:44 | <watzab> | sous unix |
| 16:45 | <torjeh> | nmschulte, To me it looks like the gi.repository module is a bit too bleeding edge for squeeze. Maybe this thread can enlighten you: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/ZmlHygur1cIzvYVekTfG |
| 16:45 | <retrospectacus> | waztab This channel is for Debian support in English. We won't help you break into others' wifi |
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| 16:46 | <nmschulte> | torjeh: Well, it's interesting looking at this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=590680 |
| 16:46 | <Schuyler> | Am I correct in assuming that two Debian packages cannot install the same file? |
| 16:46 | <Schuyler> | I'm making two Python packages that share a top-level __init__.py |
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| 16:46 | <nmschulte> | It is closed from 2010; and the original author says that the fix works; and they are able to "from gi.repository import gobject" |
| 16:46 | <Schuyler> | do I have to put it in a separate package and have them both depend on it? |
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| 16:50 | <nmschulte> | torjeh: hmm... so there simply is no packaged python-gi on Squeeze I suppose. Thanks! |
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| 16:51 | <torjeh> | nmschulte, I really don't know. This is weird. Sorry I could not be of more help. |
| 16:52 | <nmschulte> | torjeh: no worries. I think that's the gist of it, given your link's text. |
| 16:52 | <nmschulte> | I could provde a python-gi module and then everything would hook as expected, but there is no packaged gi module it seems. |
| 16:53 | <torjeh> | nmschulte, yeah, but it's really weird that the bug report you linked to got closed as solved. Isn't it? |
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| 16:58 | <nmschulte> | torjeh: Yeah. I'm not so weirded that the maintainers decided to not push gir as stable, but more so that the folks filing the reports didn't follow up saying that it didn't fix the problem for them. :) |
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| 17:00 | <torjeh> | nmschulte, right. That makes sense. The import-statement worked much better on wheezy by the way. Just tested a one-line program. Anyways good night. |
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| 17:03 | <nmschulte> | nmschulte: boom |
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| 17:11 | <stephan48> | how do i properly preseed dbconfig-common for a package using it? |
| 17:12 | <stephan48> | i know the root pw for the mysqlserver |
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| 17:14 | <ManuelCalavera> | Hey people, I am having some problems with my Debian after I made an apt-get distro-upgrade. I posted the output of an apt-get update here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=85598 |
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| 17:16 | <dummy> | hi everyone |
| 17:17 | <retrospectacus> | hi dummy |
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| 17:17 | <devil> | ManuelCalavera: what does apt-get -f install do (please pastebin the complete output) |
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| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: it looks like you have a syntax error in /etc/default/grub |
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| 17:18 | <ManuelCalavera> | done http://pastebin.com/iGa678se |
| 17:19 | <devil> | retrospectacus: are you referring to zz-update-grub? |
| 17:20 | <retrospectacus> | no, /etc/default/grub: 33: to: not found |
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| 17:20 | <devil> | ah, seen it now |
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| 17:22 | <retrospectacus> | so ManuelCalavera you probably uncommented a line you shouldn't have or wrote some junk in that file. Fix or pastebin it (use paste.debian.net please) |
| 17:22 | <ManuelCalavera> | I find it strange retrospectacus, I didn |
| 17:23 | <ManuelCalavera> | I don't remember changing the file, but nevertheless I will post the /etc/default/grub on pastebin |
| 17:24 | <ManuelCalavera> | oh wait I did'nt put an extra line there, right in the end this is because for some reason my pc cant reboot and I read this woudl fix it. And then I completely forgot about it http://pastebin.com/V4H6EJgc |
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| 17:25 | <retrospectacus> | get rid of it |
| 17:25 | <retrospectacus> | also |
| 17:25 | <ManuelCalavera> | I will comment the line and tried again |
| 17:25 | <retrospectacus> | !pastebin.com |
| 17:25 | <dpkg> | pastebin.com takes forever to load, makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 17:25 | <ManuelCalavera> | thanks, will try. |
| 17:25 | <retrospectacus> | (try apt-get -f install again) |
| 17:26 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: what you did there, should have been: put reboot=pci into the quotes on line 8 |
| 17:27 | <retrospectacus> | no idea about that though |
| 17:27 | <ManuelCalavera> | I try doing a apt-get update/upgrade and now the problem is gone |
| 17:28 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: congratulate ManuelCalavera |
| 17:28 | <dpkg> | Huzzah ManuelCalavera, you did it! |
| 17:28 | <ManuelCalavera> | shall I do an apt-get -f install also? |
| 17:29 | <retrospectacus> | sure, why not. -f is "fix" .. if you're OK it will do nothing |
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| 17:29 | <ManuelCalavera> | ok, everything seems fine now, I will reboot the pc |
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| 17:32 | <ManuelCalavera> | ok everytrhing seems ok, thanks <retrospectacus> |
| 17:32 | <ManuelCalavera> | I will reboot the pc now |
| 17:32 | <ManuelCalavera> | thanks again! |
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| 17:38 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | hey peeps |
| 17:39 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
| 17:39 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | is there a repo i can add that can get me old versions of the kernel? |
| 17:39 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i can use the latest one i just updated to :( |
| 17:39 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | it borked xbmc |
| 17:39 | <retrospectacus> | can't? |
| 17:39 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | right |
| 17:39 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | lol |
| 17:39 | <retrospectacus> | just choose the old one at the grub screen |
| 17:39 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | its not there... |
| 17:39 | <retrospectacus> | why not? |
| 17:40 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i tired that already |
| 17:40 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | heck if i know. |
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| 17:40 | <retrospectacus> | what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:40 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | all i got it the latest version and the safemode one |
| 17:40 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | squeeze |
| 17:40 | <Schuyler> | can you guys think of a reason that debuild signs my .deb with my GPG key, but then apt-get install complains that the packages are unverified? |
| 17:40 | <Schuyler> | I fed the armored key to apt-key add, and apt-key list shows the key |
| 17:40 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | is it allowed? |
| 17:40 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: what kernel versions did you upgrade from and to? |
| 17:41 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 is what i got now |
| 17:41 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i suspect -4 |
| 17:41 | <retrospectacus> | ah |
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| 17:41 | <ManuelCalavera> | Thanks for the previous help retrospectacus. I still have the problem which led to found the previous errors, and that is that my system does not mount automatically devices that I connect like my cellphone or tablet...any suggestion from anyone? |
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| 17:42 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: you can't see the old kernel in /boot ? |
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| 17:42 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | ls /boot/ |
| 17:42 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | config-2.6.32-5-amd64 grub initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 System.map-2.6.32-5-amd64 vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 17:42 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: run "dmesg|tail" after plugging and see what it's saying about your device |
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| 17:43 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: well, going back to older kernels is not usually a good idea. You should solve the actual problem that has started (what is it?) |
| 17:44 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i cant run my xbmc spread out over my two screen anymore |
| 17:44 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | it runs fine in the one but not both.. |
| 17:44 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | weird, |
| 17:44 | <ManuelCalavera> | should I paste the output here? the devices are listed |
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| 17:45 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: no... on the paste site perhaps, or tell us if there are some errors or anything |
| 17:45 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: what's your video driver? |
| 17:45 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTX] (rev a2) |
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| 17:46 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i did the one liner to install it |
| 17:46 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: driver, not card |
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| 17:46 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r| sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 17:47 | <ManuelCalavera> | nope, no errors, it tells the product/manufacture/serialnumber and before that it says "New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=4" |
| 17:47 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | :i nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary driver 32-bit libs |
| 17:47 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: you'll need to do it again (just the first part before &&) |
| 17:47 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | sorry about pb that previous one |
| 17:48 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | upto the dkms? |
| 17:48 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: what else? and what do you expect the system to do exactly when you plug it in? |
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| 17:48 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: yeah |
| 17:48 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | it dosnt do anything |
| 17:49 | <retrospectacus> | then there's nothing wrong... you just need to configure your dual displays with nvidia-settings |
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| 17:49 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | http://sprunge.us/jOfD |
| 17:49 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i did |
| 17:49 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | everything else works fine but xbmc |
| 17:50 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | whats can i possibly change in the settings to fix it? |
| 17:50 | <retrospectacus> | squeeze doesn't even have xbmc |
| 17:50 | <ManuelCalavera> | retrospectacus: normally it mounts automatically the devices under /media/ if I am not mistaken (with the respective drive icon on the desktop) , but now nothing shows up |
| 17:50 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | special repo |
| 17:51 | <retrospectacus> | Eryn_1983_FL: contact them for support then |
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| 17:51 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i've tried, |
| 17:51 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: does dmesg say anything about sdb or sdc etc.? |
| 17:51 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | they are ignorning me |
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| 17:52 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | or just not there |
| 17:52 | <retrospectacus> | try reinstalling the xbmc package or so |
| 17:52 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | hmm ok |
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| 17:53 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: I mean, when you plug in the phone. |
| 17:53 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: if not, you may need to configure the phone to act as "mass storage" instead of "windows portal" or whatever, after you plug it in. I had to do this on mine |
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| 17:54 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | nope |
| 17:54 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | sigh |
| 17:54 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | i'll go away for now |
| 17:54 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | ty for your help |
| 17:54 | <retrospectacus> | yw |
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| 17:54 | <ManuelCalavera> | retrospectacus: no, noting. My phone is an Sony Ericsson Arc S and it is configure to be a mass storage, not for USB debugging |
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| 17:55 | <ManuelCalavera> | retrospectacus: same in my tablet (nexus 7) |
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| 17:56 | <retrospectacus> | when I plug in my phone (Motorola Atrix) dmesg says sd 10:0:0:0: [sdg] Attached SCSI removable disk |
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| 17:56 | <retrospectacus> | then I have to unlock the phone |
| 17:56 | <retrospectacus> | THEN dmesg says sdh: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! |
| 17:57 | <ManuelCalavera> | when i plug my phone it says [ 1096.661837] usb 2-1.1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 |
| 17:57 | <dawid1> | Hi. I just instaled google chrome, right clik on .deb file --> instal by GDebi pacekd instaler. It shows that chrome is instaled, but... i cant find it anywhere. Does anyone know where it could be? |
| 17:57 | <retrospectacus> | mine does too ManuelCalavera |
| 17:57 | <ManuelCalavera> | if I unlock the phone, noting is registed on dmesg. And this worked fine before the distro upgrade |
| 17:58 | <retrospectacus> | dawid1: why not install chromium from the repositories |
| 17:58 | <ManuelCalavera> | dawid1: look on /opt/google/ I think it's there |
| 17:58 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: but on the phone there is no setting for choosing how to behave on USB? |
| 17:59 | <dawid1> | Is chromium a exactly copy of chrome? I need something which is working very good with html5 |
| 18:00 | <dawid1> | It is there where you said it will be. Thank you very, very much. |
| 18:00 | <retrospectacus> | chrome is Google's custom version of chromium, a free open source browser. Google has added user tracking and a logo. OFC chromium is good with html5 |
| 18:00 | <ManuelCalavera> | retrospectacus: there is but it is set to work as normal |
| 18:00 | <solstis> | hello, would a complex Qt-based application have trouble running in XFCE? http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/rosegarden in particular |
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| 18:02 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: maybe try switching that to something else and back again (watching dmesg) but I am out of ideas |
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| 18:02 | <dawid1> | I thought about this chromium but wast sure. I will have read about it, maybe I will change it for chromium. I dont want to be observed by google corporation. Which of does two has better support (I mean html5 support)? |
| 18:03 | <retrospectacus> | identical |
| 18:03 | <retrospectacus> | !tell dawid1 about chromium |
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| 18:04 | <dawid1> | So f** google, I will go with chromium. Thank you very much! Regards, and good night :) |
| 18:04 | <retrospectacus> | smart |
| 18:04 | <dawid1> | !tell about chromium |
| 18:05 | <retrospectacus> | the robot messaged you about it in a new window/tab |
| 18:05 | <dawid1> | Oh, I havent seen that. Thanks |
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| 18:06 | <dawid1> | Ok. Thank you. See you around. Great support! |
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| 18:10 | <ridge> | whats this chat room about then |
| 18:10 | <retrospectacus> | Debian support. |
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| 18:15 | <ManuelCalavera> | retrospectacus: found the problem, if I use the Sony Companion to transfer data them it changes one of the configuration parameters on the phone under the Xperia menu |
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| 18:18 | <retrospectacus> | ManuelCalavera: I don't know what any of that is but nice work :) |
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| 18:19 | <ManuelCalavera> | same thing as with the nexus lol |
| 18:19 | <Schuyler> | can you guys think of a reason that debuild signs my .deb with my GPG key, but then apt-get install complains that the packages are unverified? |
| 18:20 | <Schuyler> | apt-key list - shows the key |
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| 18:20 | <Schuyler> | I can verify the signature in Release with it |
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| 18:20 | <Schuyler> | but apt-get insists on claiming that the packages are unverified |
| 18:20 | <Schuyler> | what should be I looking at? |
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| 18:20 | <Schuyler> | (is there a better channel to ask this in?) |
| 18:20 | <retrospectacus> | !tell Schuyler about mentors |
| 18:21 | <retrospectacus> | Schuyler: no idea but there might be some useful info in that factoid for you |
| 18:21 | <Schuyler> | thanks |
| 18:21 | <canpolat> | Hi. For apt-cache, is there an operation that always connects to the repositories? search? gencaches? |
| 18:21 | <Schuyler> | this isn't for the Debian archive proper... I just thought someone could clue me into how package signing works |
| 18:21 | <Schuyler> | thanks though |
| 18:21 | <ManuelCalavera> | retrospectacus,: btw, any recommendation on linux books/websites? I really want to learn more about Linux architecture and administration... I do have the "How Linux Works" book but still have pick it up |
| 18:22 | <retrospectacus> | canpolat: no. what do you want to do? |
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| 18:22 | <retrospectacus> | !tell ManuelCalavera about handbook |
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| 18:23 | <canpolat> | retrospectacus: I want to make sure that the proxy configuration is correct in apt.conf without actually downloading a package (or doing an apt-get update). Is that possible? |
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| 18:24 | <babilen> | Schuyler: It depends on how you create your repository -- dpkg-scanpackages, for example, won't sign. See "/msg dpkg own repo" for alternatives. |
| 18:24 | <babilen> | good night all |
| 18:24 | <retrospectacus> | canpolat: hmmm not sure, "apt-get download <some tiny package>" and rm it |
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| 18:24 | <retrospectacus> | nn babilen |
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| 18:27 | <canpolat> | retrospectacus: That's the only solution I have so far :) Would have been great if there was a simple ping option. Thank you anyway. |
| 18:28 | <ManuelCalavera> | ty for the tips and helping me out retrospectacus, see ya! |
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| 18:46 | <ManuelCalavera> | Hey people, I have a problem with my Nvidia card. Concerning the OpenGL/GLX Information on the NvidiaX Server Settings, I see the following message "Failed to query the GLX server vendor.". I guess this is the problem of why I can't play super meat boy. Any suggestions? |
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| 18:48 | <Schuyler> | babilen: thanks |
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| 18:52 | <mc74x> | hola se puede actualuzar debian squeeze a wheezy |
| 18:53 | <retrospectacus> | !tell mc74x about squeeze->wheezy |
| 18:53 | <retrospectacus> | mc74x: English only here. |
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| 19:18 | <devil> | ManuelCalavera: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 19:21 | <warp> | Good evening or Добрый вечер? |
| 19:22 | <warp> | Is there anybody here? Есть тут кто? |
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| 19:23 | <devil> | warp: noone here |
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| 19:24 | <warp> | Some years ago, when I installed Debian for first time, I had a nice program. It does nothing, but simulated the project compiling window |
| 19:24 | <warp> | I don't shure but it was named something like caffeine. |
| 19:25 | <warp> | But now I can't find this program in repo |
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| 19:25 | <warp> | Maybe you're know this program? |
| 19:26 | <warp> | I'll need it before my wife is awake... ) |
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| 19:26 | <warp> | Just want to look the concert of Grebenschikov on second monitor ) |
| 19:27 | <warp> | Hmm... I'm need it or I'll need it. What is correct? ) |
| 19:27 | <retrospectacus> | I'll |
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| 19:28 | <retrospectacus> | warp: not really sure what you're looking for |
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| 19:29 | <warp> | Hmm. Just a program, that will make a window with randomly generated text ) |
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| 19:29 | <warp> | Which would like a compilators output |
| 19:29 | <FlySwat> | I'm trying to run wireshark with my normal account and it won't detect the network interface on it if I don't run it with root access.. how can I do that? |
| 19:29 | <retrospectacus> | FlySwat: be root |
| 19:30 | <FlySwat> | retrospectacus: yeah but I can only open a root session in the terminal.. do I need to find the prog and bash it from a root terminal? |
| 19:31 | <warp> | Nice idea. Wireshark's output will look seriously enough for non-expert user. Thanks ) |
| 19:31 | <retrospectacus> | FlySwat: as user, "gksu wireshark" |
| 19:32 | <retrospectacus> | or gksudo, if that's what you use |
| 19:32 | <retrospectacus> | (su vs. sudo) |
| 19:32 | <FlySwat> | sudo bash wireshark? |
| 19:32 | <retrospectacus> | no |
| 19:32 | <retrospectacus> | gksudo wireshark |
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| 19:33 | <FlySwat> | ah sweet |
| 19:33 | <FlySwat> | gk stands for what? |
| 19:33 | <FlySwat> | anyhow thx it works now |
| 19:34 | <retrospectacus> | hmmm GTK I guess (gnome toolkit) |
| 19:34 | <warp> | btw. Is there somebody, who uses Microsoft natural ergonomic keyboard 4000 in Debian? |
| 19:34 | <warp> | I've tried to setup of zoom-trigger in the middle of kbd. But unsuccesfully |
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| 19:35 | <warp> | No. Tcpdump's output isn't like a compilers output |
| 19:36 | <retrospectacus> | actually it's Gimp toolkit... whatever |
| 19:36 | <warp> | Maybe you're could to hint me, how to make infinite compile-like output to console? |
| 19:36 | <warp> | *compiler-like |
| 19:38 | <warp> | when I used freeBSD i've just compiled the kernel in infinite cycle (while true) |
| 19:38 | <warp> | What can I do in Deb? |
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| 19:39 | <lanman> | hello |
| 19:39 | <FlySwat> | retrospectacus makes sense since i don't even use gnome lol |
| 19:39 | <warp> | hi |
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| 19:43 | <retrospectacus> | warp: well you could grab some large source tarball and compile it in a loop |
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| 19:47 | <retrospectacus> | warp: just because debian has great package management doesn't mean you *can't* compile things |
| 19:47 | <warp> | retro: I'm new in Deb ) |
| 19:48 | <warp> | Just a few days ago. Before was windows for workstation and freeBSD for home server |
| 19:49 | <warp> | As I sayd - in BSD i just started kernel compiling in endless cycle. But I don't know how to do in in Dev |
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| 19:49 | <warp> | *Deb |
| 19:49 | <retrospectacus> | here it's Debian on the laptop, desktop, htpc, work PC, all work servers, netbook, everything... |
| 19:50 | <warp> | Some years ago i've seen an app, that creates a window with endless random generated compiler-like output in it |
| 19:50 | <retrospectacus> | warp: apt-get install build-essential, download any program's source and compile it over and over |
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| 19:50 | <retrospectacus> | I've never heard of any such app |
| 19:51 | <themill> | it's called "gentoo" |
| 19:52 | <warp> | I've don't need to compile a real project. I've just want to simulate it. |
| 19:52 | <warp> | It's night now. I looking a concert on YouTube. |
| 19:53 | <warp> | When my wife comes in my room, I want to show her the "pseudo compiler" and say: "I'll go to sleep when my project will be fully compiled. Not earlier". |
| 19:53 | <warp> | Just a little trick for my wife. |
| 19:55 | <warp> | So can you help me with this trouble? |
| 19:55 | <FlySwat> | warp: just dump your wife |
| 19:55 | <FlySwat> | lol just kidding |
| 19:57 | <warp> | She is in sleep mode now. But I afraid, that when son calls the interrupt she will awake and tries to interrupt my concert |
| 19:57 | <retrospectacus> | I'm not helping you decieve your wife. Tell her you're watching a concert and don't want to go to bed, or turn it off and go to bed |
| 19:58 | <warp> | I want to find a compromise ) |
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| 19:58 | <FlySwat> | it's a pretty clever trick |
| 19:58 | <retrospectacus> | find a video of something compiling |
| 19:59 | <MrFrood> | warp: write a shell script to make the screen look busy |
| 19:59 | <warp> | But I don't know how to do it ) |
| 19:59 | <retrospectacus> | yeah, do some crazy loops to make up URLs and wget them |
| 20:00 | <MrFrood> | warp: learn |
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| 20:00 | <warp> | Learn. It's nice, but not at 4:01pm, and not when I looking a concert |
| 20:01 | <warp> | And wife could come in any moment. So I've hoped for a fast solution for my problem ) |
| 20:04 | <warp> | I'm regulary learning. Some days ago I finally deleted Windows and installed Deb. But there are very many things that I don't know about this OS. Learn, learn, and learn much more, as said Lenin ) |
| 20:07 | <retrospectacus> | who goes to bed at 4pm anyways |
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| 20:09 | <ridge> | ugh, yeah not me... |
| 20:09 | <warp> | Hmm.. I've missed ) It's 4am, not 4pm. 4:00, but not 16:00 ) |
| 20:11 | <retrospectacus> | who is still awake at 4am anyways |
| 20:11 | <retrospectacus> | :P |
| 20:12 | <warp> | My wife. Awakes to give a bottle with milk to my son ) |
| 20:12 | <warp> | And to call me to a bed ) |
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| 20:13 | <retrospectacus> | and you, apparently |
| 20:15 | <warp> | Ok. Drop out this problem. There is more actual problem - my Microsoft Ergonomic Natural Keyboard 400 has a zoom-trigger at a center. And it doesn't work in Deb. There is no official microsoft driver for linux. What can I do to make this trigger to work? |
| 20:15 | <warp> | *4000 |
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| 20:16 | <warp> | As I learned from google - the trouble is that this key sends keycode more, then 255. And Deb can't understand this |
| 20:16 | <warp> | How could I fix it? |
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| 20:20 | <warp> | So there is no answer for any of my questions? |
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| 20:23 | <warp> | Ok. One more answer. What Virtual Machine could you advice to me for games on windows? Such as WoT, WoW |
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| 20:24 | <warp> | As I understand, I'll need to give my real videocard for using this virtual machine. Is there any variants? |
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| 20:25 | <retrospectacus> | if you insist on "needing" to play them, I recommend dual-boot |
| 20:26 | <warp> | Yes. I need windows just for games. But is there any variants without dual-boot? |
| 20:27 | <warp> | I've read about wine for World of Tanks, but there are problems with new patch |
| 20:27 | <warp> | *new patch for WoT |
| 20:28 | <warp> | wine couldn't correctly work with it |
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| 20:28 | <retrospectacus> | time for me to go home and have some beer and food. Good luck! |
| 20:28 | <warp> | ANd I couldn't find the solution |
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| 20:28 | <warp> | good luck for you too |
| 20:29 | <warp> | 20 mins, concert ends and I'll go to sleep too. 3 hours till the working ) |
| 20:29 | <warp> | Maybe, before you're go out |
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| 20:30 | <warp> | You can tell me, where find the solutions for my problems? |
| 20:30 | <warp> | Not a google, please. I've banned there. |
| 20:30 | <retrospectacus> | haha |
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| 20:30 | <retrospectacus> | I told you! 1) just go to sleep, or tell her you will after the concert 2) dual-boot |
| 20:31 | <retrospectacus> | bye |
| 20:31 | <warp> | Bye, |
| 20:31 | <warp> | Answer is negative. Will search deeper. Good Night |
| 20:33 | <devil> | banned on google? how does that work? |
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| 20:34 | <warp> | 1. Ask a stupid question |
| 20:34 | <warp> | 2. Ask a stupid question |
| 20:34 | <warp> | 3. ... |
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| 20:34 | <warp> | 4. while true { ask a stupid question; } |
| 20:34 | <warp> | 5. PROFIT |
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| 20:35 | <warp> | devil, but really, it's just a joke |
| 20:36 | <warp> | I'd meaned, that i've googled, but can't find a solution. So I've asking in #debian, hoped, that there I'll get the answer |
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| 20:53 | <pic> | please guys never put prelinking on debian...what are RH/Fedora/Centos thinking when it comes to servers |
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| 20:53 | <pic> | how the hell are you meant to secure them!!! |
| 20:54 | <pic> | aide and well any system system worth it's salt freaks. |
| 20:55 | <pic> | ..sorry just found out what this does when it comes to secure systems. |
| 20:55 | * | pic calms down. |
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| 22:49 | <oslo> | hello |
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