| --- | Log | opened Thu Oct 11 00:00:07 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Thu Oct 11 2012 |
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| 00:44 | <squallcomm> | Hello, big issue |
| 00:45 | <squallcomm> | [29032.024662] EXT4-fs error (device dm-2): ext4_remount:4414: Abort forced by user |
| 00:45 | <squallcomm> | [29032.024926] EXT4-fs (dm-2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered,commit=0 |
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| 00:45 | <squallcomm> | my encrypted root fs is now ro |
| 00:46 | <squallcomm> | [29033.583003] ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:08:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 pio 16392 in |
| 00:46 | <squallcomm> | [29033.583004] res 50/00:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error) |
| 00:46 | <squallcomm> | i can't -o remount,rw, it says it's write protected |
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| 01:00 | <ext5> | maybe a disk failure |
| 01:02 | <squallcomm> | fuck |
| 01:02 | <squallcomm> | how do i do fsck on an encrypted disk |
| 01:03 | <squallcomm> | doing it now |
| 01:03 | <squallcomm> | bunch of errors |
| 01:03 | <squallcomm> | jesus |
| 01:03 | <squallcomm> | Inode bitmap differences: -1051447 -1059370 -1059566 -1059673 -1059734 -1061935 -1179732 -1201854 -1201872 -1204693 -1204846 -1204862 -1204883 -1573348 -1573352 -1573358 -1573362 -1573564 -1576051 -1576059 -1576471 -1576479 -1576488 -1586389 -(1586396--1586398) -1586401 |
| 01:04 | <squallcomm> | Free inodes count wrong for group #193 (2842, counted=2847). |
| 01:04 | <squallcomm> | etc |
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| 01:04 | <squallcomm> | should i try spinrite |
| 01:05 | <squallcomm> | or are there any smart tools |
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| 01:09 | <mcoffin> | So apparently I just don't get it.. I have debian installed on /deb/sda3 with swap on /dev/sda2 and a separate boot partition on /dev/sda1 |
| 01:09 | <mcoffin> | I installed grub to the MBR (/dev/sda) |
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| 01:09 | <mcoffin> | then ran update-grub, but os-prober isn't adding anything to grub.cfg for debian |
| 01:10 | <mcoffin> | and trying to load it with a custom script tells me that I "must load the kernel first" |
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| 01:15 | <squallcomm> | quick |
| 01:15 | <squallcomm> | whats a good command to copy over my system to an external |
| 01:19 | <jm_> | mcoffin: how did you install grub? |
| 01:19 | <jm_> | squallcomm: cp -a will work fine |
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| 01:20 | <mcoffin> | jm_, I'm trying to do it manually as a learning experience just on a VM.. The separate boot partition seemed to be automatically mounted in recovery mode, so I just did a "grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda" |
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| 01:23 | <jm_> | mcoffin: do you get any extra output if you run it with --debug ? |
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| 01:24 | <mcoffin> | jm_, Theres tons of info on copying files, then a line saying "dos partition is -2, bsd partition is -2". |
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| 01:25 | <mcoffin> | in grub.cfg, there are comments indicating that os-prober was called, but theres nothing in between them |
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| 01:30 | <mcoffin> | jm_, Could it just be a bad OS install? |
| 01:31 | <jm_> | mcoffin: and there's no change if you run update-grub? |
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| 01:32 | <mcoffin> | jm_, correct |
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| 01:33 | <jm_> | mcoffin: in that case I would make a backup of /etc/grub.d/10_linux (cp -a ...), edit it, add "set -x" as 3rd line, re-run update-grub and see what it does |
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| 01:37 | <urwid_noob> | Hello Everyone |
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| 01:38 | <urwid_noob> | when I use cat /proc/mounts ... the root file system and the partition it resides on .. are presented as rootfs, how can I map the rootfs to correct partition |
| 01:38 | <jm_> | urwid_noob: cat /etc/mtab |
| 01:38 | <urwid_noob> | how can I figure out what partition rootfs refers to |
| 01:38 | <urwid_noob> | yes jm_, but cat /proc/mounts is more reliable |
| 01:39 | <jm_> | urwid_noob: how exactly is it more reliable? |
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| 01:40 | <urwid_noob> | more current, ive read in many posts, that /proc/mounts is more up to date |
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| 01:40 | <urwid_noob> | lets see it like this ... how can i figure out what rootfs points to |
| 01:40 | <jm_> | that's just a generalization, i.e. if mount doesn't update /etc/mtab |
| 01:41 | <jm_> | it doesn't apply to debian |
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| 01:42 | <urwid_noob> | There are absolutely no guarantees about the content of /etc/mtab, it is purely managed by the userland mount command, so can be bypassed or rewritten arbitrarily |
| 01:42 | <urwid_noob> | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5426818/ordering-of-proc-mounts-and-etc-mtab |
| 01:42 | <mentor> | urwid_noob: I get two separate entries for / |
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| 01:43 | <jm_> | like I said, that's generalization, by that logic you couldn't trust your cat command ... |
| 01:43 | <urwid_noob> | mtab contains whatever the mount command puts in |
| 01:43 | <urwid_noob> | there. /proc/self/mounts contains *everything* (it comes from the kernel, as opposed to a userspace program) |
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| 01:44 | <urwid_noob> | mentor, what do you mean , you get two separate entries for / , where ? |
| 01:47 | <mentor> | in /proc/mounts |
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| 01:53 | <urwid_noob> | "The output found in /proc/mount is similar to the contents of /etc/mtab, except that /proc/mount is more up-to-date" - from https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Deployment_Guide/s2-proc-mounts.html |
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| 02:01 | <urwid_noob> | is using df to see the mounted filesystems , as accurate as using /etc/mtab ? |
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| 02:05 | <jm_> | df is also reading it from /etc/mtab .... |
| 02:05 | <urwid_noob> | thank you |
| 02:06 | <jm_> | on debian another alternative would be readlink /dev/root |
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| 02:07 | <griffon_> | hola |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | me podrian decir porque no puedo instalar paquetes tar.gz |
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| 02:07 | <griffon_> | cuando escrivo |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | ./configure |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | me lanza |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | Densidad de sólidos |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | 2.1 Objetivos |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | • Determinar la densidad de algunos sólidos utilizando tres métodos diferentes. |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | • Discutir, a partir de los resultados experimentales, cuál de los métodos es el más exacto para medir la densidad de sólidos. |
| 02:07 | <griffon_> | • Analizar si la densidad se puede utilizar como criterio para establecer la pureza de un sólido. |
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| 02:10 | <jm_> | !es |
| 02:10 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 02:10 | <rupell> | hola |
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| 02:15 | <griffon_> | alguien me podria explicar por que me sale este error |
| 02:15 | <griffon_> | bash: ./configure: No existe el archivo o el directorio |
| 02:15 | <griffon_> | cuando le doy |
| 02:15 | <griffon_> | ./configure |
| 02:15 | <griffon_> | en los pasos para instalar un programa comprimido en tar gz |
| 02:16 | <griffon_> | NOTA: |
| 02:16 | <griffon_> | disculpen el error anterio |
| 02:16 | <griffon_> | anterior |
| 02:16 | <jm_> | !tell griffon_ -about es |
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| 02:18 | <griffon_> | someone please tell me why I get this error |
| 02:18 | <griffon_> | bash:. / configure: No such file or directory |
| 02:18 | <griffon_> | when I give |
| 02:18 | <griffon_> | . / configure |
| 02:18 | <griffon_> | on the steps to install a program compressed tar gz |
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| 02:33 | <voltagex> | any ideas why my second monitor would be magenta under KDE on Wheezy? |
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| 02:49 | <rainfyre> | hi everyone. I'm running Debian off of a flash drive and have very limited space. I'm wondering if it is possible to delete old logs, aptitude caches or things of that nature to save a few megs here and there |
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| 02:51 | <ansgar> | rainfyre: Only unfriendly people crosspost questions. |
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| 03:05 | <mcoffin> | Hi again! This seems simple, but the only solution I found online made no sense. I'm building gcc 4.7.2 with gccgo on wheezy. it complains about not finding bits/predefs.h header even though that header is in /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits. Any ideas as to why gcc wouldn't find that? I've stripped my configure options down to just the prefix and the enable-languages=c,c++,go |
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| 03:06 | <mcoffin> | For reference, the online solution told me to install 32-bit compatible versions of things. Since I'm building gcc for x86_64 for an x86_64 target, that didn't make any sense to me. |
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| 03:39 | <Luigi> | Hello |
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| 03:41 | <Luigi> | o |
| 03:41 | <Luigi> | OK, so I'm looking into the FSF's list of distributions made up of free software |
| 03:42 | <nevyn> | yes.... |
| 03:42 | <Luigi> | It doesn't list Debian, but I've heard that Debian 6 doesn't have any nonfree software installed by default? |
| 03:42 | * | nevyn quietly picks up the baseball bat and holds it behind his back. |
| 03:42 | <Luigi> | I don't know how to verify this, though |
| 03:42 | <nevyn> | Luigi: did you add non-free sources? |
| 03:43 | <Luigi> | nevyn, I'm on Ubuntu :( I'd like to switch, though |
| 03:43 | <Luigi> | Just evaluating the options |
| 03:43 | <nevyn> | so debian may no longer prompt to add non-free as a software repo as of debian 6 (I dunno havn't installed debian for 3 years or so) |
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| 03:44 | <Luigi> | And unless that section is active, everything else is free software? |
| 03:44 | <nevyn> | everything in main conforms to the DFSG |
| 03:44 | <nevyn> | (debian free software guidelines) |
| 03:45 | <Luigi> | I'm very familiar with the DFSG :) |
| 03:45 | <Luigi> | That's great to hear |
| 03:45 | <nevyn> | otherwise it can't be in main |
| 03:45 | <Luigi> | I wonder why the FSF doesn't like debian, then |
| 03:45 | <Luigi> | Weird |
| 03:45 | <nevyn> | because of non-free |
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| 03:45 | <nevyn> | it's explained... umm.. |
| 03:45 | <Luigi> | Anyway, that's extremely helpful nevyn |
| 03:45 | <Luigi> | Thanks :) |
| 03:46 | <nevyn> | http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html |
| 03:46 | <nevyn> | Luigi: 5th entry ^^ |
| 03:46 | <Luigi> | Oh, I see |
| 03:46 | <Luigi> | So they don't consider it to be free enough for regular users |
| 03:47 | <Luigi> | Odd way to approach it imho, since debian has so many packages available. Sorry though, I realize this isn't the place to discuss FSF policy |
| 03:47 | <nevyn> | I think many of these are being worked on: |
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| 03:48 | <nevyn> | http://www.h-online.com/newsticker/news/item/Debian-aims-for-FSF-endorsement-1632789.html |
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| 03:48 | <nevyn> | so this is about 3 months old ^^ |
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| 03:49 | <Luigi> | Yeah, it'd be nice to see them endorse it |
| 03:49 | <Luigi> | I think people would take the concept more seriously if debian was the flagship for it |
| 03:49 | <Luigi> | And not gNewSense |
| 03:49 | <Luigi> | (the concept of 100% free distros) |
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| 03:51 | <Luigi> | Thank you very much nevyn! |
| 03:52 | <Luigi> | I'll bookmark these links and next time I install an OS I think it will be debian :D |
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| 03:54 | <kopkamikolaj> | cx |
| 03:54 | <marekb> | bu |
| 03:54 | <kopkamikolaj> | cioto |
| 03:54 | <marekb> | trzeba ludzi zrekrutować |
| 03:54 | <kopkamikolaj> | czy ty nie powinienes wstac? |
| 03:54 | <marekb> | masz darmowe smsy? |
| 03:54 | <kopkamikolaj> | tak |
| 03:54 | <marekb> | wyślij do pitera\ |
| 03:54 | <marekb> | grzybka itp |
| 03:54 | <kopkamikolaj> | nie |
| 03:55 | <ansgar> | !pl |
| 03:55 | <dpkg> | Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>. |
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| 03:55 | <kopkamikolaj> | jebac ich |
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| 03:55 | <kopkamikolaj> | chce miec cie tylko dla siebie |
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| 03:55 | <marekb> | :* |
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| 04:00 | <mikarch> | list |
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| 06:09 | <grammoboy> | No candidate version found for portmap |
| 06:09 | <grammoboy> | is it replaced? |
| 06:09 | * | grammoboy trying to set up nfs |
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| 06:10 | <grammoboy> | aptitude install nfs-common portmap |
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| 06:11 | <jm_> | use rpcbind I guess |
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| 06:14 | <grammoboy> | ok |
| 06:14 | <grammoboy> | hm only root can mount nfs? |
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| 06:25 | <grammoboy> | mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.113:/home/dirk/files |
| 06:25 | <grammoboy> | how do I manage the access rights? |
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| 06:28 | <weasel> | on the server, etc/exports? |
| 06:28 | <jm_> | check hosts.allow/deny |
| 06:28 | <jm_> | and exports obviously |
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| 06:32 | <grammoboy> | ok |
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| 06:44 | <melodie> | hi |
| 06:44 | <melodie> | in Debian wheezy, is the start file used a .xinitrc or a .xsession please ? |
| 06:45 | <melodie> | here it says ".xsession" : http://man.flashnux.com/en/debian/6/6.0.1/man5/Xsession.5.html |
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| 06:46 | <melodie> | and I was wondering if one or the other could be used, as many distros do use a .xinitrc |
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| 06:46 | <yossarianuk> | hi - does anyone here hav experience of using spacewalk with debian/ubuntu based servers ? |
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| 06:47 | <yossarianuk> | spacewalk is totaally amazing (in terms of updating servers, etc) however seems to really only have redhat support |
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| 06:49 | <babilen> | !tell melodie about .xinitrc |
| 06:49 | <babilen> | melodie: It is ~/.xsession and that hasn't changed in wheezy |
| 06:50 | <melodie> | babilen, I read the message now, thank you |
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| 06:50 | <melodie> | I see ! very good, thanks a lot ! |
| 06:50 | <melodie> | I'll paste it at the forum now: |
| 06:50 | <yossarianuk> | i know the answer is really - when its ready, but is it looking like weeks or months until the release of wheezy ? |
| 06:51 | <melodie> | http://www.linuxvillage.net/t192-gdesklets-openbox-autostart.htm#p1591 |
| 06:51 | <babilen> | melodie: I should note that you will, most likely, want to use "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch WHATEV" in there in order to ensure that consolekit and dbus are initialised correctly. |
| 06:51 | <melodie> | babilen, yes, we do that |
| 06:51 | <Maulkin> | yossarianuk: When the green line at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ gets to 0 |
| 06:51 | <babilen> | melodie: Great -- Just wanted to make sure, because there are some horrible tutorials out there. |
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| 06:51 | <melodie> | probably |
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| 06:54 | <yossarianuk> | Maulkin: Thanks - a while then I assume... |
| 06:54 | <melodie> | babilen, anyway thank you very much. |
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| 06:55 | <melodie> | going now, bye all |
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| 06:57 | <grammoboy> | jm_, should I specify rpcbind in the hosts.allow file? |
| 06:58 | <grammoboy> | jm_, squeeze on my server seems to use portmap, whereas testing on my laptop uses rpcbind |
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| 07:00 | <themill> | ,bug rm portmap |
| 07:00 | <judd> | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/567502 in ftp.debian.org (done): «RM: portmap -- ROM; superseded by rpcbind»; severity: normal; opened: 2010-01-29; last modified: 2011-05-31. |
| 07:01 | <jm_> | grammoboy: you need to use process name |
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| 07:03 | <grammoboy> | themill, should I replace portmap by rpcbind on squeeze (server) too? |
| 07:03 | <grammoboy> | jm_, and what is the process name? |
| 07:03 | <themill> | I don't touch nfs... I just know how to find removal bugs |
| 07:04 | <jm_> | grammoboy: you should see it in the log message about deny |
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| 07:07 | <grammoboy> | ok it works now |
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| 07:07 | <grammoboy> | changed 192.168.0.1 in /etc/exports to 192.168.1.1 |
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| 07:08 | <jm_> | those pesky details! |
| 07:09 | <grammoboy> | is it problematic if the mount option in in fstab, but the file system isn't available because of a failing network connection? |
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| 07:09 | <grammoboy> | heh |
| 07:09 | <jm_> | grammoboy: it might hang your boot |
| 07:09 | <grammoboy> | jm_, it might? |
| 07:10 | <jm_> | grammoboy: sure, depending on how quick it will give up etc. |
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| 07:11 | <grammoboy> | jm_, it's my laptop and i don't use it always inside the local network |
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| 07:11 | <jm_> | grammoboy: why not use autofs then? |
| 07:12 | <grammoboy> | jm_, because I never heard of it :) |
| 07:12 | <jm_> | grammoboy: apt-cache show autofs, check /etc/auto.net |
| 07:12 | <grammoboy> | thx |
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| 07:27 | <grammoboy> | my swap partitions in my raid 1 is still pending http://fpaste.org/OWNc/ |
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| 07:28 | <grammoboy> | i've heard the partitions start to sync when the first data is written, but how does that work with swap? |
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| 07:38 | <Patagonicus> | Is there an up to date guide for setting up LDAP on Debian Stable? The article on the wiki states that a lot changed from the version it's written for. |
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| 08:40 | <nice> | Hallo suche Hilfe für sound configuration! Kann hier jemand weiter helfen? |
| 08:40 | <real> | -v |
| 08:41 | <Ichabod> | nice: english please |
| 08:41 | <babilen> | !de |
| 08:41 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 08:41 | <nice> | oh sorry |
| 08:41 | <babilen> | nice: Entweder sprichst du hier English oder Du versuchst es in einem der oben genannten Kanäle ^^^ |
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| 08:41 | <perlwizard> | <_< |
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| 08:50 | <grammoboy> | is it normal that fdisk -l says " |
| 08:50 | <grammoboy> | Disk /dev/md2 doesn't contain a valid partition table" for a md device in a raid 1 setup? |
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| 08:51 | <paolobs81> | ciao a tutti |
| 08:51 | <paolobs81> | !list |
| 08:51 | <dpkg> | paolobs81: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 08:52 | <roughnecks> | grammoboy: i guess yes, it's the same to me (never had problems) |
| 08:54 | <Patagonicus> | grammoboy: Well it depends on whether or not you have a partition table on md2. If you have just one filesystem on it, the output is expected. If you have multiple partitions, something's wrong. |
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| 08:57 | <grammoboy> | ok thanks |
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| 09:00 | <grammoboy> | ok I'm ready to copy data from an old debian install to my new hdd on my server |
| 09:01 | <grammoboy> | just a cp -R ? |
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| 09:03 | <haylo> | scp -r user@hostname:/path/to/files /path/to/local/destination/folder |
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| 09:06 | <haylo> | grammoboy: scp -r is an ssh file transfer protocol. it works quite nicely for transfering file across a network ie: around to your various computers |
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| 09:07 | <grammoboy> | haylo, I've mounted the old disk via an sata usb converter |
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| 09:09 | <haylo> | ebian man page in my system says -R, -r, --recursive |
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| 09:10 | <haylo> | cp /home/olduserhome/music/ /home/newuserhome/music |
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| 09:10 | <haylo> | perhaps cp -R would be the best first try, |
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| 09:10 | <haylo> | its looks like for the copy command they all have the same value |
| 09:11 | <haylo> | 'cp' command i should say |
| 09:11 | <real> | cp -a |
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| 09:15 | <haylo> | so grammoboy whatever folder you mounted that in the file path would start there: like if you used /mnt to mount it in then it would be in: /mnt/home/olduser/music |
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| 09:16 | <grammoboy> | haylo, it looks like cp -R is going ok here |
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| 09:17 | <grammoboy> | for the music files |
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| 09:18 | <grammoboy> | which root folders are worth to copy? |
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| 09:18 | <grammoboy> | I've things like rsnapshot and funambol setups I'd like to setup again |
| 09:19 | <grammoboy> | on the new system |
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| 09:19 | <grammoboy> | and /opt |
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| 09:19 | <grammoboy> | and /etc likely |
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| 09:20 | <grammoboy> | and /root for bash setup etc.? |
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| 09:25 | <grammoboy> | hm I can copy the /home/rsnapshot folder just as it is to the new drive |
| 09:25 | <grammoboy> | with the -p option for preserve ownership etc |
| 09:27 | <haylo> | well the only thing i would take from /root is its .bash_history or something like this |
| 09:27 | <grammoboy> | ok |
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| 09:28 | <haylo> | grammoboy: dont copy anything from the old system realy. just data like movies and music, text |
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| 09:28 | <grammoboy> | haylo, no not directly to the new root system, just as backup |
| 09:29 | <haylo> | you dont want all of these system files. if there are thing that you _know_ will transfer right over that is fine. but most things in debian get installed with apt. so moving them from place to place does no good |
| 09:29 | <grammoboy> | haylo, but the rsnapshot folder I think i can copy it as it is /home/rsnapshot |
| 09:29 | <haylo> | hmm, yeah that sounds right |
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| 09:31 | <haylo> | yuo might even want to just stick everything in a backup foder /home/user/backup_folder and then deal with it over time |
| 09:32 | <grammoboy> | right |
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| 09:42 | <babilen> | ratcheer: I always just used iptables directly, no idea what "management systems" you actually need or which are good. |
| 09:44 | <ratcheer> | babilen: Thanks. I have tried to study iptables. I always end up being lost. |
| 09:45 | <babilen> | Hmm, I had a good tutorial somewhere. |
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| 09:48 | <babilen> | ratcheer: http://inai.de/documents/Perfect_Ruleset.pdf http://www.frozentux.net/documents/iptables-tutorial/ and http://inai.de/images/nf-packet-flow.png should help. |
| 09:48 | <ratcheer> | babilen: I was always a DBA. Network mgmt is my weakest admin area. All firewall tutorials confuse me. They tell you what you can do, but not how to fit it all together. |
| 09:49 | <ratcheer> | babilen: I am bookmarking your tuts and will try to work through them. Actually, I need to because my real firewall is on my router, and it is just iptables. |
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| 09:53 | <babilen> | ratcheer: I came up with http://paste.debian.net/198919/ years ago. I don't use it anymore as I would prefer to load rules in pre-up for interfaces as explained on http://wiki.debian.org/iptables -- Also check the documentation linked at the bottom. (I haven't read them) |
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| 09:55 | <ratcheer> | Thank you, babilen |
| 09:56 | <babilen> | ratcheer: Well, that script is/was an amalgamation of a couple of other scripts/tutorials and my personal needs, but ... meh. I wouldn't necessarily use it straight away and it *really* depends on what you need a firewall for. Always remember: A port that is not open doesn't need to closed! So disable *all* services that you don't need. |
| 09:57 | <ratcheer> | Do you need to disable a service that is not running? |
| 09:57 | <babilen> | No, surely not :) |
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| 09:58 | <babilen> | I meant make sure that only those services that you actually need are running/enabled/installed |
| 09:58 | <ratcheer> | Ok, that's what I thought. You just mean don't run the ones you don't use. |
| 09:58 | <babilen> | yeah |
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| 09:59 | <ratcheer> | Give me a simple example. How do I make sure sshd is only accessible by my other LAN nodes? Should I do this at the router or at the sshd server host? |
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| 10:07 | <azeem_> | heya |
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| 10:14 | <azeem> | heh, solved it myself, cu |
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| 10:17 | <MXXIV> | hello? |
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| 10:21 | <ubuntu-studio> | m use a samsung mobile internet when i connect a mobile to pc then after 5mint automatically disconnect my phome |
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| 10:22 | <Guest1359> | !ubuntu |
| 10:22 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 10:27 | <ubuntu-studio_> | m use a samsung mobile internet when i connect a mobile to pc then after 5mint automatically disconnect my phome |
| 10:28 | <Maulkin> | !ubuntu-irc |
| 10:28 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 10:28 | <Maulkin> | ubuntu-studio_: See that |
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| 10:30 | <siddy> | Can someone help me set up fstab on a computer? I tried but certain partitions still didn't mount |
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| 10:31 | <siddy> | I tried searching for forum but it's probably the worst in the world..... |
| 10:31 | <siddy> | " |
| 10:31 | <siddy> | Information |
| 10:31 | <siddy> | Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes. |
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| 10:34 | <Maulkin> | siddy: What forums? |
| 10:34 | <Maulkin> | siddy: And have you read "man fstab" ? |
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| 10:37 | <siddy> | debian forum... after you do a search... and you try to go to the next page, you get that msg |
| 10:37 | <siddy> | well, I've read various webpages on fstab... does that count? I find it more helpful than the man pages usually |
| 10:37 | <Ichabod> | that's unlikely |
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| 10:39 | <Maulkin> | siddy: Debian doesn't run any forums - so I'm not sure what you mean. There's a number of third party ones |
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| 10:40 | <themill> | (forums.debian.net I assume) |
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| 10:41 | <siddy> | yeah |
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| 10:41 | <siddy> | just a joke... I tried to search the forums before bothering ppl here :) |
| 10:41 | <Maulkin> | siddy: What are you actually trying to do? |
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| 10:41 | <siddy> | ok, I read the man pages but I still don't know how to set it up |
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| 10:42 | <siddy> | Maulkin: it should be easy... I need to edit the default fstab file so that these partitions in other drives are accessible when the user is using his system |
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| 10:42 | <siddy> | I use fstab, right? The only other thing I could think of is syslinks... I'm confused :( |
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| 10:43 | <siddy> | I looked at the old fstab and it looked like it was set up in fstab.... so the partitions would be mounted.... some data on another drive in the computer.... 'data drive' or 'data partition' |
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| 10:44 | <siddy> | it's because the OS was outdated and had some problems... so, we did a new install on it ...so, naturally, the new default fstab won't have the 'added' entries |
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| 10:45 | <siddy> | does that describe it adequately what I'm trying to do?? :-/ |
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| 10:46 | <siddy> | so, what is the best way.... Debian is installed on sda1.... but, data is on sdb1, sdc1 and sda3 (sda3 - only partition on same drive some data is on) |
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| 10:47 | <siddy> | so, want it accessible easily... so, add to fstab, right? so should be something like /dev/sda3 and then mkdir in the new OS, right? so /data ? |
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| 10:48 | <siddy> | for e..g? /dev/sda3 /data or the second section has to be a mount point?, not just the directory? |
| 10:48 | <siddy> | help |
| 10:48 | <siddy> | I tried already and it didn't work so I have something wrong there, I guess |
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| 11:25 | <ralu> | am i only one who can't stop xfce remembering last seasson? |
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| 11:26 | <haylo> | siddy: a mountable partition can be mounted to any directory. look in dmesg to get information about your drives. and /dev to see the listed partitions of an given device. If you decide to modify fstab use the "blkid" command to see the UIUD number of the drive so you can add it to fstab |
| 11:26 | <engla> | ralu: it's stored inside ~/.cache/sessions I think |
| 11:27 | <engla> | ralu: or do you mean it stores every session anew? |
| 11:27 | <ralu> | it always restores desktop |
| 11:28 | <ralu> | on reboot |
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| 11:30 | <ralu> | i mean desktop |
| 11:30 | <ralu> | desktop seassion |
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| 11:34 | <ralu> | great i re/moved dir and didnt crashed |
| 11:36 | <siddy> | haylo: well, what I tried, didn't work so I need to know what I did wrong and how to correct it |
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| 11:38 | <siddy> | and why use unique identifier way when the drives will stay in the system? |
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| 11:39 | <ralu> | how do you know that? |
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| 11:41 | <ralu> | they might stay in system as long as disk doesnt crash |
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| 11:53 | <jww> | win 13 |
| 11:53 | <sney> | lose 12 |
| 11:54 | <jww> | heh :) |
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| 11:54 | <siddy> | can you guys help? :) |
| 11:55 | <siddy> | if I have a drive... installed OS in sda1 but want to mount three partitions at start up, one on OS drive and two on other drives... how to set up fstab? |
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| 11:55 | <siddy> | sda3, sdb1 and sdc1 |
| 11:56 | <siddy> | but, only a directory from each of the other drives... I guess that is what is confusing |
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| 11:57 | <siddy> | if the directory is called 'data' and 'data2' is it something like this: /dev/sdb1 /data and /dev/sdc1 /data2 but I have to create the directories in sda1? |
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| 12:00 | <roughnecks> | siddy: create some mountpoints under /mnt/, like /mnt/data and /mnt/data2 (mountpoints are just empty dirs). As you wrote, /data would be in the root directory |
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| 12:01 | <siddy> | so don't have it in the root directory? |
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| 12:01 | <siddy> | I think I noticed mount points... but, it's not my machine and not here |
| 12:02 | <roughnecks> | it's better to have it in a specific place, like /mnt/, but you can do as you like |
| 12:02 | <siddy> | I think when I used a live cd, it mounted the partition as /mnt/sdb1 or smth like that |
| 12:02 | <siddy> | oh |
| 12:02 | <roughnecks> | probably |
| 12:02 | <siddy> | but, I am confused :( |
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| 12:03 | <siddy> | what if I only want a directory from the partition mounted? |
| 12:03 | <siddy> | say the data you want is in /dev/sdb1 but it's in /data or whatever |
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| 12:04 | <roughnecks> | when you do cd /data you're exploring /dev/sdb1, if i understand what you're asking |
| 12:04 | <siddy> | so, mkdir /mnt/data and then fstab is /dev/sdb1 /mnt/data? |
| 12:04 | <roughnecks> | yep |
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| 12:05 | <siddy> | ok, maybe my understanding went from 20% to 50% ;) |
| 12:06 | <roughnecks> | eheh |
| 12:06 | <siddy> | the previous fstab entry was different but it mounted anyway |
| 12:06 | <siddy> | I don't understand how it worked |
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| 12:09 | <siddy> | I also have to try setting up a network with another computer that has the same thing... directories with data on them :-( |
| 12:09 | <roughnecks> | feel free to paste it in some pastebin if you'd like someone to check it |
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| 12:09 | <haylo> | siddy linux has started using UIUD for good reasons. most people use this when adding entries to fstab |
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| 12:10 | <haylo> | if you really like not using uiud try freebsd and watch what happens when you plug in new drives it wasnt expecting and then startup the system |
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| 12:11 | <siddy> | I don't know how to use UIUD |
| 12:11 | <siddy> | which pastebin? |
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| 12:11 | <roughnecks> | that's quite simple |
| 12:11 | <roughnecks> | !paste |
| 12:11 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 12:11 | <siddy> | http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 12:12 | <siddy> | k |
| 12:12 | <roughnecks> | !uuid |
| 12:12 | <dpkg> | A Universally Unique IDentifier (UUID) is used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
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| 12:14 | <siddy> | this is what it was right after OS install ...default fstab |
| 12:14 | <siddy> | http://paste.debian.net/198968/ |
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| 12:16 | <siddy> | http://paste.debian.net/198970/ |
| 12:16 | <roughnecks> | and it's all under /mnt/ |
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| 12:16 | <siddy> | this was in the old fstab ...these three entries but when I added it to the current fstab... nothing worked...nothing mounted |
| 12:16 | <roughnecks> | in the second the mountpoints are under the / (root) directory |
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| 12:17 | <roughnecks> | any errors? |
| 12:17 | <retrospectacus> | the directories have to exist |
| 12:17 | <siddy> | not that I recall |
| 12:17 | <retrospectacus> | this doesn't look like a debian fstab at all |
| 12:17 | <siddy> | I created the directories |
| 12:17 | <siddy> | what doesn't? |
| 12:17 | <retrospectacus> | 198968 |
| 12:17 | <siddy> | the 2nd paste? |
| 12:17 | <retrospectacus> | nor that |
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| 12:20 | <siddy> | it's debian-based |
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| 12:28 | <Maulkin> | siddy: So, what actually is it? |
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| 12:37 | <ajeng> | hello |
| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
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| 12:38 | <ajeng> | where u from |
| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | ajeng: Earth |
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| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | do you have a debian question? |
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| 12:41 | <siddy> | Maulkin: Mepis |
| 12:42 | <siddy> | the Mepis channel is always a ghost town |
| 12:42 | <Maulkin> | siddy: I would suggest you ask Mepis then - there's multiple changes they've made. Or, you could install Debian. |
| 12:42 | <siddy> | I'm strongly advising to install Debian... they put Mepis on the laptop, too...well, I did...11.9 but it's not ready... |
| 12:43 | <siddy> | Debian is on my machine |
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| 12:44 | <siddy> | Wheezy is at a pretty good state right now, right? |
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| 12:44 | <siddy> | it will go stable next year? |
| 12:44 | <Maulkin> | siddy: It's currently frozen. |
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| 12:44 | <siddy> | yeah, that's what I meant |
| 12:44 | <siddy> | good... I'll recommend Debian Wheezy be installed |
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| 12:59 | <AlexLikeRock> | why are more people on freenode than irc.debian.org? |
| 12:59 | <retrospectacus> | because 42 |
| 13:00 | <Maulkin> | irc.d.o used to point at freenode, so that probably affects things |
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| 13:03 | <themill> | AlexLikeRock: the fact that freenode is about a factor of 10 larger probably has something to do with it too. |
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| 13:06 | <AlexLikeRock> | ok, tnks guys |
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| 13:14 | <yme> | hello |
| 13:14 | <Maulkin> | !ask |
| 13:14 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:14 | <yme> | sorry help |
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| 13:15 | <yme> | help |
| 13:15 | <yme> | help |
| 13:15 | <yme> | help |
| 13:15 | <yme> | help |
| 13:15 | <yme> | help |
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| 13:36 | <myk42> | names |
| 13:37 | <myk42> | crosspost apologies! :) |
| 13:37 | <mike-burns> | I've run into this twice now: I can connect to an wifi AP, and can even ping it, but cannot connect past it. These same AP work for other people (including my Android phone). |
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| 13:38 | <mike-burns> | It's as if the firewall on the AP is blocking me specifically. It also reminds me of when I would forget to enable NAT on my custom routers. |
| 13:39 | <mike-burns> | I can use an Ethernet cable just fine. |
| 13:39 | <mike-burns> | Any advice on what I can investigate? |
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| 13:45 | <mike-burns> | Well, gotta run. Hopefully someone will leave advice for when I return. |
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| 14:28 | <rituraj> | hi |
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| 14:29 | <rituraj> | shud i join debian |
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| 15:10 | <dawid1> | Hi. I am on Debian Amd 64, for some reason my wifi card doesnt see any networks. Yesterday everything worked just fine, today it doesnt. Any Ideas what should I check? Or what an it be? |
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| 15:15 | <dawid1> | !wifi |
| 15:15 | <dpkg> | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <killswitch>, <wpa>, <wlan howto>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 15:15 | <dawid1> | !dpkg |
| 15:15 | <dpkg> | it has been said that dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 15:16 | <dawid1> | !dpkg what's my wireless |
| 15:16 | <dpkg> | Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ , or ask me about <whats my hardware>. See also <wireless>. |
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| 15:18 | <dawid1> | Hi. I am on Debian Amd 64, for some reason my wifi card doesnt see any networks. Yesterday everything worked just fine, today it doesnt. Any Ideas what should I check? Or what an it be? |
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| 15:20 | <rainfyre> | how do I search backports for a package? |
| 15:20 | <themill> | rainfyre: packages.debian.org lists backports packages too |
| 15:21 | <themill> | (or /msg judd versions packagename; /msg dpkg bpo contents) |
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| 15:24 | <user__> | Is that common to get an error: no such partition after upgrading ubuntu 11 to ubuntu 12 ? (GNU GRUB boot problem) |
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| 15:24 | <retrospectacus> | !ubuntuirc Freddrick |
| 15:24 | <dpkg> | Freddrick: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 15:24 | <Freddrick> | thanks |
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| 15:31 | <dawid1> | Hi. I hope someone can help me. I am on Debian amd 64, and I have problem with my wifi card. It doesnt see the networks at all (I am on LAN now). I dont know what happend coz last night everything was working more then fine. I didnt instal anything or do anything what I can think could coz the problem. Any advices? |
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| 15:35 | <retrospectacus> | dawid1: put the output of "lspci -nn; ifconfig -a; iwconfig" on paste.debian.net |
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| 15:39 | <dawid1> | done: http://paste.debian.net/199200/ |
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| 15:41 | <retrospectacus> | dawid1: looks fine. how about # iwlist scan |
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| 15:44 | <dawid1> | here: http://paste.debian.net/199202/ |
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| 15:46 | <retrospectacus> | looks like the adapter is off. physical switch? |
| 15:46 | <retrospectacus> | dawid1: try "ifup wlan0" |
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| 15:47 | <retrospectacus> | or enable it in network manager (is that what you use?) |
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| 15:48 | <dawid1> | "http://paste.debian.net/199202/" |
| 15:48 | <retrospectacus> | ? |
| 15:48 | <dawid1> | sorry, my mistake |
| 15:48 | <dawid1> | says: "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0." |
| 15:49 | <retrospectacus> | enable wireless in network-manager |
| 15:50 | <dawid1> | where can I find network menager? |
| 15:51 | <retrospectacus> | when you said "It doesnt see the networks at all" ... "it" is network-manager |
| 15:51 | <retrospectacus> | unless it isn't in which case, what is it |
| 15:53 | <dawid1> | That what I thought, but there is no option to enable wireless... I cant see it. |
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| 15:53 | <retrospectacus> | right click the icon |
| 15:54 | <dawid1> | I did, there is nothing like that. I chceck twice |
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| 15:54 | <dawid1> | checked* |
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| 15:55 | <retrospectacus> | there is for me. What version of debian is this? |
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| 15:57 | <dawid1> | There are "Networks"; "Connection Information"; "About program"; and " connection modify" which I've checked all. I am on Debian amd 64 |
| 15:59 | <dawid1> | 6.0.6 release; Gnome 2.30.2 |
| 15:59 | <dawid1> | Kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 16:00 | <retrospectacus> | what does "about program" say |
| 16:02 | <dawid1> | It show up small window with two options: "credits" and "close" |
| 16:02 | <retrospectacus> | I mean what is the name of the program, and version |
| 16:02 | <retrospectacus> | shown there |
| 16:02 | <dawid1> | Aplet Network Manager 0.8.1 |
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| 16:06 | <retrospectacus> | rightclicking that icon should definitely have an option for enabling wireless |
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| 16:06 | <retrospectacus> | dawid1: http://blog-pics.chewearn.com/2009-01/ics-wired02.jpg |
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| 16:07 | <dawid1> | Ok I am there |
| 16:08 | <dawid1> | but there is no option to enable the wireless |
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| 16:08 | <retrospectacus> | maybe try a "modprobe -r iwlagn ; modprobe iwlagn" as root |
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| 16:10 | <dawid1> | nothing is changed |
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| 16:14 | <dfc> | how do I build linux-support for a custom kernel make KDEB builds all of the other kernel related packages but not linux-support |
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| 16:26 | <dawid1> | Any other ideas? I read about it in some polish websites, but cant find the answer. I dont know, it is weird, coz just few hours ago, everything was working perfect. |
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| 16:28 | <retrospectacus> | dawid1: physical switch, special WiFi button (Fn-F6 or whatever), or reboot |
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| 16:33 | <dawid1> | Ok. I try that. I rebooted few times. I will reboot one more. Anyway thank you very much for your help and time |
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| 16:34 | <retrospectacus> | rebooting *more* likely won't help |
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| 17:32 | <ac_slater> | hey guys, anyone know how to get a list of installed packages WITHOUT their appended versions. I want a list I can pipe back to aptitude. |
| 17:32 | <ac_slater> | and --get--selections isnt what I'm looking for |
| 17:33 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg -l |awk '/^ii/{print $2}' |
| 17:33 | <dpkg> | ii |awk '/^ii/{print $2}' 1.1-4 retrospectacus's private porn collection |
| 17:33 | <retrospectacus> | nooooooo |
| 17:33 | <ac_slater> | lol |
| 17:33 | <ac_slater> | but that has some versions in there, ie - libwebkit-1.0-2 |
| 17:34 | <retrospectacus> | that's the name of the package |
| 17:34 | <retrospectacus> | what are you really trying to do |
| 17:34 | <ac_slater> | hmm, I thought so too. When I do `aptitude download $(< pkgs)` where pkgs is the file I dumped, I get a bunch of "No candidate found" |
| 17:35 | <retrospectacus> | that's cos it's not in the repo anymore |
| 17:35 | <retrospectacus> | what are you really trying to do |
| 17:36 | <ac_slater> | retrospectacus, I share apt via apt-cacher over my network. I just want to redownload all of my currently installed packages so I server them from my local cache |
| 17:37 | <ac_slater> | I guess I can look over them and download the ones that ARE in the repos |
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| 17:37 | <ac_slater> | I'm used to pacman, where the packages dont have their version names in their identifiable names. |
| 17:37 | <retrospectacus> | !snapshot |
| 17:37 | <dpkg> | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 17:38 | <ac_slater> | retrospectacus, right, I run a lab, so I only need certain packages, not a repo snapshot |
| 17:38 | <retrospectacus> | well you can get them there |
| 17:38 | <ac_slater> | I solved my problem by `for i in $(cat pkgs); do aptitude download $i; done` ... kinda shitty, but eh |
| 17:39 | <ac_slater> | thanks man. |
| 17:39 | <retrospectacus> | ehhh that doesn't look any different |
| 17:40 | <retrospectacus> | and #bash would scold you to use: while read i; do aptitude download "$i" ; done < pkgs |
| 17:40 | <ac_slater> | well... the ones that fail/arent in the repo will get skipped, but the ones that are, get processed. If you try to pipe the contents of the file to aptitude it exits on first fail |
| 17:40 | <retrospectacus> | oh I see, yes |
| 17:41 | <ac_slater> | retrospectacus, haha if bash has the feature, I'll abuse it. haha |
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| 17:42 | <retrospectacus> | for i in $(cat pkgs) does word-splitting which happens to not be a problem since packagenames don't have spaces |
| 17:42 | <ac_slater> | exactly. |
| 17:44 | <ac_slater> | well thanks sir, take it easy |
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| 17:44 | <retrospectacus> | you too |
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| 19:15 | <ext5> | does anyone have an idea how to obtain a copy of packtracer the latest? |
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| 19:16 | <Hammou> | Hi |
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| 19:21 | <mike-burns> | I've run into this twice now: I can connect to an wifi AP, and can even ping it, but cannot connect past it. These same AP work for other people (including my Android phone). |
| 19:21 | <mike-burns> | It's as if the firewall on the AP is blocking me specifically. It also reminds me of when I would forget to enable NAT on my custom routers. |
| 19:22 | <mike-burns> | I can use an Ethernet cable just fine. |
| 19:22 | <mike-burns> | Any advice on what I can investigate? |
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| 19:22 | <mike-burns> | (Twice as in two different wifi APs. One is owned by me.) |
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| 19:52 | <BackBreaker12> | hey guys. I am trying to hide the username and password for a cifs mount in fstab. Is there a way to include a domain in the creds file? |
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| 19:53 | <Latino> | "hide the username and password for a cifs mount in fstab" # chmod 600 /etc/fstab |
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| 19:55 | <themill> | BackBreaker12: sure, «username=domain\user» in your credentials file |
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| 19:57 | <BackBreaker12> | themill: hmm i tried that. I will try it again |
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| 22:04 | <siddy> | x server got messed up on an upgrade.... mobo has integrated nvidia .... nforce 430, geforce 6150se .. so I need to remove nvidia and use nouveau drivers, right? |
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| 22:04 | <siddy> | I can do this with live cd or in the shell? |
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| 22:15 | <thinkerweb> | hi, I am thinking of buying a wifi ucb nic so that I can provide internet access to my cellphone. I have two concerns I was hoping someone might comment on: 1. wifi nic device driver. 2. how to make my desktop a wifi router |
| 22:16 | <thinkerweb> | I was thinking I would buy a wifi router and be done with it, but if I buy a usb wifi instead, then I can play with my wifi card directly with debian and then I can play with wifi-radar and other cool wifi tools. |
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| 22:22 | <siddy> | thinkerweb, I would buy a device that has the atheros chipset |
| 22:23 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, thx |
| 22:23 | <siddy> | do you need to know which have it? |
| 22:23 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, that would be great |
| 22:23 | <siddy> | I only suggest it because atheros has free drivers in the kernel so you'll have wifi working right away when you enter your security info |
| 22:23 | <siddy> | hold on |
| 22:24 | <siddy> | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB |
| 22:25 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, thx |
| 22:25 | <siddy> | anything that shows this driver, ath9k_htc |
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| 22:26 | <siddy> | np |
| 22:26 | <siddy> | I want to get a wifi device, myself, but I haven't decided yet on pci, pci-e or usb :) |
| 22:27 | <siddy> | I'm told usb nics are pretty good now |
| 22:28 | <thinkerweb> | I want to get this one: http://www.summitdirect.com/_e/Wireless_NICs_Adapters/sproduct/10282123/TRENDnet_TEW_424UB_Wireless_G_USB_Adapter.htm |
| 22:28 | <thinkerweb> | But I won't cause I can't find it on the list you gave me |
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| 22:30 | <thinkerweb> | keebox is on the list and only $12 |
| 22:30 | <thinkerweb> | nope, those are RT devices, this one is w150 model |
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| 22:33 | <siddy> | it's also 'G' ...any reason to get a 'g' device? |
| 22:33 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, not sure about it, what is this bgn business? |
| 22:33 | <thinkerweb> | Trendnet is 802.11b/g |
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| 22:34 | <siddy> | Well, 'n' is faster if your router can do 'n' and of course, it depends on your internet speed etc... I'm not sure about wifi on your cell phone... |
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| 22:35 | <siddy> | http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=TRENDware |
| 22:36 | <siddy> | this site could be helpful, too... note, there's two versions of this device... I knew of someone who had the v1 ... make sure it is... it has zydas zd1211b chipset...works ok in linux |
| 22:37 | <thinkerweb> | I'm skipping the trendnet one then, but this other one, keebox, it doesn't have a driver listed on the wifi list either |
| 22:37 | <thinkerweb> | http://www.summitdirect.com/_e/Wireless_NICs_Adapters/sproduct/1018887287/Keebox_W150NU_IEEE_802_11n_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapter.htm |
| 22:38 | <thinkerweb> | This one is 150 mb/s rather than just 54mb/s too, for only a couple dollars more |
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| 22:38 | <siddy> | http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Keebox_W150NU |
| 22:39 | <siddy> | it has a ralink chipset, probably |
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| 22:41 | <canaima_> | hola |
| 22:41 | <canaima_> | temgo un problema |
| 22:41 | <thinkerweb> | you think its compatibile? |
| 22:41 | <thinkerweb> | http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 22:42 | <canaima_> | NO inglis |
| 22:42 | <thinkerweb> | canaima I think there is a spanish debian page, maybe its #debian-es |
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| 22:44 | <siddy> | this one is a bit big but would have the atheros chipset: http://www.summitdirect.com/_e/Wireless_NICs_Adapters/sproduct/1016921309/Tp_Link_TL_WN721N_IEEE_802_11n_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapter.htm |
| 22:44 | <siddy> | would be as fast ...150n |
| 22:44 | <canaima_> | trenk |
| 22:44 | <siddy> | ralink is usable... but, you have to enable non-free repo |
| 22:45 | <siddy> | and install the ralink firmware |
| 22:45 | <canaima_> | pero quien habla espanol? |
| 22:45 | <siddy> | check on newegg for reviews? |
| 22:46 | <canaima_> | Hquien me ayuda tengo problems |
| 22:47 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, you think atheros is way better than ralink? |
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| 22:47 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, thx for the summit link! |
| 22:47 | <siddy> | it's just less time setting up |
| 22:47 | <siddy> | in any linux distro, it should already be installed... the atheros firmware as it's in the kernel |
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| 22:48 | <siddy> | if the price is similar, then I'd pick it :) |
| 22:48 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, hmm, I agree |
| 22:49 | <siddy> | if I went with usb for my computer, I'd probably get this...by with my vendors :) this one here: http://www.summitdirect.com/_e/Wireless_NICs_Adapters/sproduct/1016921311/Tp_Link_TL_WN821N_IEEE_802_11n_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapter.htm |
| 22:49 | <canaima_> | sex |
| 22:49 | <siddy> | you'd want version 3, though |
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| 22:51 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, why would you get that one, besides it being 300 Mbs rather than only 150mbs |
| 22:51 | <siddy> | for 300 |
| 22:51 | <siddy> | if you don't mind, 150, get the 721 |
| 22:51 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, for the speed eh, but the debian compatibility issue is exactly same eh |
| 22:52 | <siddy> | depends what your phone can do? |
| 22:52 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, yeah, besides the phone though |
| 22:52 | <siddy> | should be, providing it's an atheros chipset :) |
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| 22:52 | <siddy> | I think v2 is atheros, too |
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| 22:55 | <thinkerweb> | these models wn821 & wn721 are not on the list http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB |
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| 22:58 | <siddy> | 721n is |
| 22:58 | <siddy> | :) |
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| 22:58 | <siddy> | ath9k_htc TP-LINK TL-WN721N |
| 22:59 | <siddy> | ath9k_htc -> atheros |
| 22:59 | <thinkerweb> | frig, I don't see it on the list, I only see 7200ND, 727M & 321G |
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| 23:00 | <siddy> | here?: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB |
| 23:00 | <siddy> | look at the TP LINK ones |
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| 23:01 | <siddy> | near the top with ath9_htc ... that's an atheros chipset... that's the driver |
| 23:01 | <thinkerweb> | yeah, I only see 7200ND, 727M & 321G, but not TL-WN721N |
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| 23:02 | <thinkerweb> | the one at the store is 721N |
| 23:02 | <siddy> | strange |
| 23:02 | <siddy> | 721N is atheros with ath9_htc |
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| 23:03 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, oh I see it, its backwards |
| 23:03 | <siddy> | ok :) |
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| 23:04 | <thinkerweb> | cause its organized by driver, but I was scrolling assuming it was alphabetically by vendor, if you scroll down, you'll see TP-Link again, and there is where I was see those three I mentioned |
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| 23:05 | <siddy> | oh yeah |
| 23:05 | <siddy> | I picked usb so all the usb ones were at the top |
| 23:05 | <siddy> | where are you, btw? you can check newegg for reviews... if you want |
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| 23:05 | <siddy> | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704071 |
| 23:06 | <thinkerweb> | I live in Hamilton Ontario Canada, you? |
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| 23:06 | <siddy> | oh |
| 23:07 | <siddy> | near there |
| 23:07 | <thinkerweb> | its only $9 on new egg |
| 23:07 | <thinkerweb> | near there? |
| 23:07 | <siddy> | I had to drive there a few times |
| 23:07 | <thinkerweb> | where do you live? |
| 23:07 | <siddy> | to the hospital |
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| 23:08 | <siddy> | the royal city |
| 23:08 | <siddy> | newegg.ca, I see $12 |
| 23:09 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, what city is called the royal city? do have a link for it at $12? the $9 one was in US it seems |
| 23:11 | <siddy> | yes, have you ever bought from ncix? you can price match or just buy it from here: |
| 23:11 | <siddy> | http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=26240NW9676&vpn=TL-WN721N&manufacture=TP%20LINK |
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| 23:30 | <sharkzero> | hola |
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| 23:42 | <ext5> | how come when i want to uninstall a program. it always want to remove others.do they really share something in common? |
| 23:44 | <jaime> | you need unistall a program? |
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| 23:56 | <chealer> | ext5: it? |
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