| --- | Log | opened Fri Oct 12 00:00:39 2012 |
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| 00:06 | <|Anthony|> | I'm preparing a home server where people on the outside will be able to use ssh and ftp to access it. Is SELinux something i should read up on, or is it unnecessary? |
| 00:07 | <ext5> | i mean like if i use apt-get remove "something". in order to complete the comman i would also have to issue apt-get autoremove. i dont understand a simple program have so many dependency |
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| 00:08 | <ext5> | chealer, |
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| 00:08 | <sney> | ext5: most "simple" programs depend on multiple libraries that might not be used by other programs. |
| 00:08 | <sney> | |Anthony|: it's not a bad idea to at least read up on it and make the decision yourself. |
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| 00:11 | <|Anthony|> | sney, i am. i started here http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux but the info is kinda terse. I'm off to http://selinuxproject.org now |
| 00:11 | <k00n> | |Anthony|: selinux might be overkill for a home server, but heh no amount of security is too much. I would first focus on the simpler steps like ssh-keys and disabling root login for ssh, and jails for FTP |
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| 00:12 | <|Anthony|> | k00n, i'm comfortable with configuring ssh, and my firewall rules are fairly stringent. I thought jails is a bsd thing? |
| 00:12 | <k00n> | |Anthony|: jails as in jail FTP users to specific dirs |
| 00:13 | <k00n> | that can be done with vsftpd |
| 00:13 | <sney> | or just eschew FTP altogether and use sftp, so you only need to secure one daemon |
| 00:13 | <k00n> | or that ^^^ |
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| 00:13 | <|Anthony|> | setting up a ftp server is a virgin voyage for me and i'll probably forgo it at the start |
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| 00:14 | <k00n> | i suggest SFTP over FTP any day. you can do sftp-only jails fairly easily too. |
| 00:15 | <|Anthony|> | i will remember that for when i am ready |
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| 00:15 | <|Anthony|> | ftp would make it easier for the folks to manage |
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| 00:20 | <chealer> | |Anthony|: I don't know SELinux, but it's a security mecanism to limit damage in case something goes wrong. if you have no special security needs, just follow basic security guidelines and avoid something going wrong in the first place. |
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| 00:21 | <|Anthony|> | honestly, i'd like to define acl such that folks can only access stuff in a shared folder, use the top command and just a few others |
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| 00:22 | <|Anthony|> | setting up ssh so that only I can get in and keeping the firewall tight is something i'm familiar with. allowing others in and keeping a tight ship is new to me |
| 00:23 | <|Anthony|> | so i'm kinda treading lightly on the project |
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| 00:24 | <sney> | and even if it turns out to be unnecessary, it's still useful knowledge to have |
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| 00:25 | <|Anthony|> | i'm confident that i'll be able to keep folks in just the one machine. ie prohibit them from traversing the rest of the network, but i'm not familiar with securing a single machine for multiple users |
| 00:25 | <|Anthony|> | agreed sney. that's kinda the point of the whole project |
| 00:26 | <chealer> | ext5: you never have to issue apt-get autoremove, unless you need to free disk space |
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| 00:28 | <Fernand72> | any help with fwbuilder anyone? |
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| 01:01 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, where bouts in hamilton. im in steelcity too |
| 01:02 | <thinkerweb> | main & sherman |
| 01:02 | <thinkerweb> | ext5, you? |
| 01:03 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, oh yea, main & wentworth |
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| 01:04 | <thinkerweb> | cool, howdy neighbor |
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| 01:05 | <siddy> | this is the niagara area night? |
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| 01:06 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, :) |
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| 01:07 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, how long have you been using debian and is it your primary os |
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| 01:07 | <thinkerweb> | ten years yep |
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| 01:08 | <ext5> | a decade eh |
| 01:08 | <ext5> | cool |
| 01:09 | <siddy> | any of you use nvidia? lol |
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| 01:10 | <jm_> | yes ROFFLE |
| 01:11 | <siddy> | I was given this computer to fix... and an upgrade messed up the xserver... well, it boots up and you're lucky to get a root shell... |
| 01:11 | <siddy> | I forget this stuff... grrrr |
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| 01:12 | <siddy> | I have a good idea what happened... the hardware is nforce 4 and geforce 6150se and nvidia doesn't support this hardware anymore with the proprietary driver so I need to either reduce it to vesa or use nouveau |
| 01:12 | <thinkerweb> | ext5 how about yourself |
| 01:12 | <siddy> | so, if I remove the nvidia stuff... it should switch to using nouveau...right? |
| 01:13 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, if you try to remove nvidia stuff it will probably remove all X I think |
| 01:13 | <jm_> | which version of nvidia driver? and legacy proprietary driver will most likely work if the regular oen doesn't |
| 01:14 | <siddy> | it should re-write xorg? I mean, it should load the nouveau driver? |
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| 01:15 | <siddy> | jm_, I have no idea... lol.... I just can't remember the commands to remove it... so far, I think there is autoremove and purge |
| 01:16 | <siddy> | apt-get remove nvidia-* -> would that work? |
| 01:16 | <siddy> | afaik, this is the main stuff here... but, I want it removed... :) -> nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-kernel-dkms, nvidia-kernel-source, xserver-xorg-video-nvidia |
| 01:16 | <siddy> | either I have to use a nvidia legacy driver or nouveau |
| 01:16 | <thinkerweb> | yeah, there is apt-get purge package-name, which will delete the config files too |
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| 01:18 | <ext5> | yup the i usually use apt-get purge after i remove any app to make the system more clean and lean |
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| 01:19 | <thinkerweb> | ext5 how about yourself, how long have you been using debian and is it your primary os |
| 01:19 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | they got a new standard?? ext5? |
| 01:19 | <Eryn_1983_FL> | wowo |
| 01:19 | <siddy> | apt-get purge what, though? nvidia-*? |
| 01:20 | <siddy> | you wouldn't believe it but I've done this before... lol |
| 01:20 | <siddy> | my memory is crap sometimes... well, most of the time, i guess |
| 01:20 | <thinkerweb> | yeah, my memory fails me too |
| 01:21 | <thinkerweb> | I did some video driver stuff, but I can't remember it at all |
| 01:21 | <siddy> | I've installed nvidia drivers both the debian and nvidia way... had to deal with driver / module conflicts that resulted in X Server being screwed up... usually being thrown to a root shell |
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| 01:21 | <simonlnu> | why not just run aptitude and hit / and search 'nvidia' ? |
| 01:21 | <thinkerweb> | siddy, whats wrong with your video and what driver? |
| 01:21 | <jm_> | siddy: I don't think apt-get can do nvidia-*, aptitude sure can |
| 01:22 | <ext5> | siddy, a short workaround is to use a wild card like "apt-get remove nvidia*" |
| 01:22 | <jm_> | actually apt-get can |
| 01:22 | <siddy> | this is on another computer... don't have it set up yet... :) |
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| 01:22 | <siddy> | ext5, yeah, that's what I was thinking.... smth like that |
| 01:23 | <siddy> | thinkerweb, someone thought it would be good to upgrade everything ... lol |
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| 01:24 | <siddy> | i think both nvidia and nouveau were installed or the nvidia driver was overriding nouveau |
| 01:24 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, ive used debian on and off in the past for about 4years. but since they have upgraded to the 3.2 kernel. thats a plus i decided to make debian the primary defacto |
| 01:24 | <siddy> | wait, no... i think the upgrade had just installed the nvidia driver since it wasn't installed before and so it is not supported by this hardware |
| 01:24 | <thinkerweb> | ext5, I am pretty sure I am still on a 2.8 kernel |
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| 01:25 | <thinkerweb> | ext5, oops, they skipped 2.8 I am meant 2.6, and yes, I am still running 2.6 |
| 01:26 | <siddy> | 2.6.32 is debian stable... I think |
| 01:27 | <thinkerweb> | ext5, for me, I was really happy about this chrome browser, I mean still use firefox for the download helper addon, but chrome is much faster and stable |
| 01:27 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, you got the better end of the stick, with 2.6 being stable and all. i on the other hand im using wheezy. which is going to be release in dec or jan |
| 01:27 | <thinkerweb> | I always run stable |
| 01:28 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, i hear that. i was thinking about see if i could help out with any bugs i can find. |
| 01:28 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, ive used chrome on windows before that i ate up my ram with like 3 different process total in 300MB |
| 01:29 | <siddy> | ext5, I'll be intalling wheezy soon :) |
| 01:30 | <ext5> | thinkerweb, atlease you can install it on vmware or virtualbox |
| 01:31 | <ext5> | off to bed all. punch time tomorrow |
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| 01:36 | <thinkerweb> | ext5, c ya |
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| 01:42 | <EmleyMoor> | Is iceweasel 16.0-1 "safe" or is there a security problem with it? |
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| 01:44 | <siddy> | I would use it |
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| 01:44 | <siddy> | I've used 16 and 17 |
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| 01:45 | <siddy> | I might turn in soon |
| 01:45 | <siddy> | I either have to work on this computer tonight... um... I don't see that happening or get up early and do it... :-O |
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| 01:46 | <siddy> | I'll set it up side-by-side with this one that works... |
| 01:47 | <siddy> | damn nvidia and your X Server destruction |
| 01:47 | <siddy> | what happened to wayland server? :-/ |
| 01:48 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: experimental has 16.0.1-1 so it's probably missing the fix |
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| 02:52 | <jm_> | iceweasel 16.0.1 for i386 is already there, hopefully amd64 will show up shortly too |
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| 03:09 | <TobiX> | siddy: Wayland is still in development. Weston is in Debian experimental, if you want to try it... XWayland should be on its way into one of the next X releases... |
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| 03:38 | <pinqvin> | hello tell me |
| 03:38 | <pinqvin> | do I install headers or image first when installing new kernel? |
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| 03:39 | <pinqvin> | do I install headers or image first when installing new kernel? |
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| 03:41 | <jm_> | image |
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| 04:04 | <jimmaw> | ai |
| 04:05 | <jimmaw> | hg |
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| 04:07 | <jimmaw> | jgjg |
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| 04:07 | <jimmaw> | kkk |
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| 04:10 | <john_> | pardon? |
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| 04:48 | <derpalicious> | erm, debian Squeeze with stock kernel from repos, man, wireless-tools doesnt see my Ath9k wireless card |
| 04:48 | <derpalicious> | wireless tools doesnt see AR9485 |
| 04:48 | <derpalicious> | anyone know of a fix? |
| 04:48 | <themill> | !AR9485 |
| 04:48 | <dpkg> | Atheros AR9485-based wireless LAN devices (e.g. PCI ID 168c:0032) are supported by the Linux kernel as of version 2.6.39, ask me about <ath9k>. |
| 04:48 | <themill> | ^^ that would imply you need the kernel from backports; /msg dpkg bdo kernel |
| 04:49 | <derpalicious> | 2.6.32-5 and it sure isnt seeing it |
| 04:49 | <derpalicious> | oh my kernel is too old |
| 04:49 | <derpalicious> | see the term "backports" makes a noob think of older software |
| 04:50 | <derpalicious> | so, erm, Ive built my own kernels before and 9 times out of 10 they fail |
| 04:50 | <derpalicious> | any easy way to do it with aptitude? |
| 04:50 | <nevyn> | yes |
| 04:50 | <derpalicious> | oh /msg dpkg bdo kernel got cha |
| 04:51 | <derpalicious> | k its running wit aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
| 04:51 | <derpalicious> | yay 3.2 |
| 04:52 | <derpalicious> | u guise r awesome, whomever maintains this irc |
| 04:52 | <derpalicious> | I just had one of my silly windows users get infected with a NASTY and verulent rootkit |
| 04:52 | <derpalicious> | OMG |
| 04:52 | <derpalicious> | /tmp/tmpbXMLtd (END) |
| 04:52 | <derpalicious> | what do I press to exit this?? |
| 04:53 | <derpalicious> | q ok |
| 04:53 | <derpalicious> | lol |
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| 04:53 | <derpalicious> | switchin them to debian |
| 04:53 | <Slex> | morning |
| 04:53 | <derpalicious> | morn |
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| 05:02 | <derpalicious> | yay I got wifi |
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| 05:02 | <derpalicious> | awesome, thanks |
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| 05:52 | <zW> | Hi :) |
| 05:53 | <zW> | Is there a way to block users opening a socket in linux ? |
| 05:53 | <zW> | I have a chrooted ssh server where people only have x amount of commands they have |
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| 05:53 | <zW> | but they can create a socket in php on a certain port, it is firewalled ofcourse, but is there a linux way to disable/limit that ? |
| 05:54 | <jm_> | zW: it is possible to certain extent using capabilities, or these days using seccomp for example |
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| 05:55 | <ansgar> | Or selinux. But chroots are not a security feature anyway (users can just upload their own binaries and run them). |
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| 05:56 | <zW> | seccomp ? |
| 05:57 | <jm_> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp |
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| 06:01 | <zW> | ah, and is that something 'stable' ? :) |
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| 06:37 | <francesc> | ola |
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| 06:39 | <francesc_> | hay alguien? |
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| 06:44 | <grammoboy> | any idea what this could be? |
| 06:44 | <grammoboy> | /opt/Funambol/bin/install |
| 06:44 | <grammoboy> | /opt/Funambol/tools/jre-1.5.0/jre/bin/java: 1: Syntax error: “(” unexpected |
| 06:45 | <grammoboy> | I did |
| 06:45 | <grammoboy> | apt-get install libmysql-java |
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| 06:45 | <grammoboy> | cp /usr/share/java/mysql-connector-java.jar /opt/Funambol/tools/jre-1.5.0/jre/ |
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| 06:45 | <SynrG> | why does Funambol embed its own copy of java? |
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| 06:46 | <SynrG> | i really think you would be better off trying to get it working with Debian's java |
| 06:46 | <SynrG> | and in any case, supporting non-debian-java use is outside the scope of this channel |
| 06:47 | <SynrG> | i.e. talk to Funambol's support |
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| 06:47 | <grammoboy> | hm ok |
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| 06:48 | <grammoboy> | I did install openjdk-6-jdk openjdk-6-jre though |
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| 06:53 | <grammoboy> | what is the java home of openjdk? |
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| 07:08 | <SynrG> | grammoboy: see /usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre/JAVA_HOME |
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| 07:12 | <hmsck> | hi |
| 07:12 | <hmsck> | i am a newbie |
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| 07:22 | <devil> | we all were newbs once |
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| 07:24 | <derpalicious> | .. |
| 07:24 | <derpalicious> | did someone say my name? |
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| 07:24 | <derpalicious> | All I heard was "newb" |
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| 07:26 | <devil> | :) |
| 07:26 | <derpalicious> | ok guise |
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| 07:27 | <derpalicious> | I got an issue, I got a Brother MFC-j265w printer and they only have a 32bit driver and some of my workstations are 64bit |
| 07:27 | <derpalicious> | Printers Wifi or USB only |
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| 07:27 | <devil> | then hope they have heard of multiarch before :) |
| 07:27 | <derpalicious> | Im thinking ill have to USB it to 32bit debian box and just use CUPS and share it |
| 07:28 | <devil> | that sounds like the easiest way |
| 07:28 | <derpalicious> | well, some hardware vendors just dont give a crap |
| 07:28 | <derpalicious> | me, im sick of wiping windows users behinds every time they get infected with the latest nasty rootkit |
| 07:28 | <grammoboy> | sed: can't read /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf: No such file or directory |
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| 07:36 | <hmsck> | my linux is freezing, what can i do? |
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| 07:38 | <devil> | hmsck: be a lot more specific. is it debian? |
| 07:38 | <hmsck> | ubuntu |
| 07:38 | <devil> | then this is the wrong chanel |
| 07:38 | <devil> | !ubuntuirc |
| 07:38 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 07:38 | <devil> | hmsck: ^ |
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| 07:39 | <siddy> | what's the best way to remove the nivdia driver so that the nouveau is the active driver? |
| 07:39 | <siddy> | can only boot up to root shell |
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| 07:40 | <siddy> | apt-get remove nvidia-* -> this? |
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| 07:40 | <siddy> | sudo apt-get autoremove --purge nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings -> this? will any of these commands work? |
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| 07:42 | <devil> | siddy: the 2nd one without autoremove will work. |
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| 07:43 | <jm_> | siddy: you don't even need to remove stuff, just ensure nvidia driver is not loaded by kernel/X |
| 07:43 | <devil> | siddy: also you need to remove the blacklisting of nouveau |
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| 07:47 | <siddy> | jm_, how? |
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| 07:49 | <jm_> | siddy: for X, see if you have a config snippet mentioning nvidia (like in /msg dpkg nvidia dkms), for kernel, you can blacklist it or just delete the module |
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| 07:49 | <siddy> | devil, by re-installing? every how-to is for blacklisting or disabling! ugh! :) |
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| 07:50 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 504] by debhelper |
| 07:51 | <devil> | siddy: i dont understand. look for the blacklisting and delete it. could be in /etc/modeprobe.d/ |
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| 07:52 | <siddy> | devil, ok, thanks... I will |
| 07:53 | <siddy> | gonna set up the puter in a few mins |
| 07:57 | <jm_> | $ dpkg -S /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-common.conf |
| 07:57 | <jm_> | nvidia-kernel-common: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-common.conf |
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| 08:05 | <powerthrash> | hello |
| 08:06 | <powerthrash> | I ve a problem with samba 3.5.6 |
| 08:06 | <powerthrash> | got these messages in log |
| 08:07 | <powerthrash> | process_usershare_file: stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/user failed. Permission denied |
| 08:07 | <powerthrash> | samba integrated into Active Directory |
| 08:07 | <powerthrash> | samba + winbind |
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| 08:16 | <siddy> | nope, not there :( |
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| 08:18 | <derpalicious> | debian login prompt just froze while switching users |
| 08:18 | <derpalicious> | blank white box staring at me for over 10 minutes |
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| 08:19 | <derpalicious> | gdm kernel 3.2.x |
| 08:20 | <derpalicious> | multiple syslog entries for "intel ips MCP Limit Exceeded" |
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| 08:22 | <derpalicious> | Oct 12 05:11:49 user kernel: [ 5144.424996] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: MCP limit exceeded: Avg power 36318, limit 35000 |
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| 08:31 | <davis776> | Hello, when will transmission 2.71 be available in experimental? |
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| 08:43 | <daemonkeeper> | davis776: Such questions only the respective maintainers can answer. |
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| 09:50 | <ryao> | Is there a way that I could quickly view list of the patches being applied to Debian's kernel? http://packages.debian.org/testing/kernel/linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64 |
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| 09:55 | <derpalicious> | HEY! |
| 09:55 | <derpalicious> | deviant:/var/www/obama-sucks-balls.com# aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`» |
| 09:55 | <derpalicious> | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-image-686»" |
| 09:55 | <derpalicious> | no kernel for me??? |
| 09:55 | <derpalicious> | baww |
| 09:56 | <ryao> | Is this the debian development channel? |
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| 09:56 | <roughnecks> | ryao: Debian support channel |
| 09:56 | <ryao> | I just found the official list. I want #debian-devel. |
| 09:57 | <ryao> | roughnecks: Thanks. |
| 09:57 | <roughnecks> | :) |
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| 09:59 | <ubuntu-studio_> | hola |
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| 10:00 | <ubuntu-studio_> | hello hola |
| 10:00 | <ubuntu-studio_> | #ubuntu-es |
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| 10:11 | <gkscal> | can't aktivate glx, can anybody help? |
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| 11:10 | <powerthrash> | Hello |
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| 11:11 | <powerthrash> | Could anyone help me with Samba ? |
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| 11:14 | <babilen> | powerthrash: Your problem has been solved. Thanks for your interest in #debian service. If you need further help do not hesitate to read "/msg dpkg ask" and "/msg dpkg anyone". |
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| 11:15 | <babilen> | powerthrash: I would suggest to just ask your question or head over to #samba on irc.freenode.net if it is *not* a Debian related problem. |
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| 13:36 | <Samkov> | does anyone have any knowledge of vpn providers? I found a free one that looks pretty promising but I dont feel that knowledgeable about vpns in general, how do I know that it is safe? I am speaking of vpnbook.com, any thoughts? |
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| 14:04 | <ced> | How to ssh out of company network. Default port 22 is ok. The Server requires connection to port 2222 |
| 14:05 | <roughnecks> | -p port |
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| 14:07 | <zezikaro> | . |
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| 14:22 | <clerk> | I am having difficulty enabling synaptics touchpad on my 8 year old dell laptop |
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| 14:24 | <frauundcomputer> | gutend abend |
| 14:24 | <frauundcomputer> | jemand da und kann bei miniproblem helfen? |
| 14:24 | <frauundcomputer> | iceweasel klemmt will kill aber es geht nicht |
| 14:24 | <frauundcomputer> | wie kann ich task beenden? |
| 14:24 | <frauundcomputer> | pidof gedit zeigt tasknummer ok |
| 14:24 | <frauundcomputer> | pidof iceweasel zeigt keine pid |
| 14:26 | <clerk> | I added the xorg.conf.d directory to /etc/x11 and edited the 50-synaptics.conf file |
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| 14:26 | <frauundcomputer> | danke habe taskmanager genommen und gekillt sorry für störung |
| 14:26 | <bike> | Hey, i have a problem, i get a buffer underrun when doing audio playback in audacious and the likes, it was so bad that certain kernels crashed, problem is , this laptop is so picky the debian 3.2.x kernel would not boot, something with pci hotplug, it is a hp dv6 , anyway, the ubuntu 3.2.x booted, i used this for a while, but even there the problem with playback persisted , on a kernel.org 3.2.30 the problem is not as bad, i still get underr |
| 14:26 | <bike> | uns , im now on 3.6.1. where the machine crawls to a halt when the problem occurs |
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| 14:30 | <bike> | the problem seems to occur on certain mp3's as well, i noticed with 128 kbps especially |
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| 14:31 | <rhollan> | anyone have experience with debian installation preseed files? |
| 14:32 | <rhollan> | trying to use the SAME value in different places, but first obtained interactively |
| 14:32 | <rhollan> | krb5-config servers should be derived from netcfg/get_domain, for example |
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| 14:35 | <rhollan> | anyone have preseed experience? |
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| 14:38 | <cinch> | bike, . |
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| 14:39 | <cinch> | bike, you're listing like 10x problems at once :o |
| 14:40 | <cinch> | bike, sounds like a alsa driver issue |
| 14:40 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 517] by debhelper |
| 14:40 | <cinch> | bike, but it all depends :> |
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| 14:41 | <bike> | cinch, heh, found an alsa buffer size value in audacious just now, a configuration suggested increasing a buffer in the kernel to 2048, tried the same in audacious now |
| 14:42 | <cinch> | bike, try with a different audio player |
| 14:42 | <cinch> | in particular, use a "raw" alsa player |
| 14:42 | <cinch> | like mpd |
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| 14:42 | <cinch> | bike, what kernel buffer? never heard of that |
| 14:42 | <bike> | donno, the problem seemed to occur randomly, after some time of playback , going to keep my eye on it atleast, problem is i like audacious ! |
| 14:43 | <bike> | hang on, i'll find the thinie |
| 14:43 | <bike> | thingie |
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| 14:43 | <bike> | cant remember it now, |
| 14:43 | <cinch> | thx |
| 14:43 | <cinch> | take your time |
| 14:43 | <cinch> | audio needs patience :> |
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| 14:43 | <bike> | CONFIG_SND_HDA_PREALLOC_SIZE=2048 |
| 14:43 | <cinch> | bike, in general, the buffer sizes should work out of the box |
| 14:44 | <cinch> | could be anything like CPU spikes or crappy driver too you know |
| 14:44 | <cinch> | what sound card? |
| 14:45 | <cinch> | why is sid affected from the wheezy freeze? |
| 14:45 | <bike> | Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller |
| 14:45 | <cinch> | i hate waiting :p |
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| 14:46 | <bike> | i think its something with this hp laptop, it works great in all respects mad fast little bugger |
| 14:46 | <cinch> | idk |
| 14:46 | <cinch> | which alsa driver? |
| 14:46 | <bike> | hda intel |
| 14:47 | <cinch> | lsmod | grep snd |
| 14:47 | <SynrG> | there are so many different variants of that |
| 14:47 | <bike> | snd_hda_intel |
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| 14:47 | <cinch> | k |
| 14:47 | <cinch> | no idea |
| 14:47 | <cinch> | try a different audio player :> |
| 14:47 | <cinch> | because they vary greatly |
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| 14:48 | <SynrG> | grep Codec /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 |
| 14:48 | <bike> | hehe, yeah, will try that |
| 14:48 | <cinch> | ive had probs with audacious myself |
| 14:48 | <bike> | Codec: IDT 92HD81B1X5 |
| 14:48 | <cinch> | screw the code :> |
| 14:48 | <SynrG> | and then within codec, there are often different models. |
| 14:48 | <cinch> | codec* |
| 14:48 | <bike> | ah i see |
| 14:48 | <SynrG> | kernel docs contain a list |
| 14:49 | <SynrG> | grouped by codec, with models listed beneath. |
| 14:49 | <SynrG> | default should be 'auto' which should autodetect your model and then configure it properly. |
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| 14:49 | <ratcheer> | I need to try sound on my new Debian installation... |
| 14:50 | <SynrG> | but my experience with the debian-eeepc project was that every new eeepc model had a slightly different variant and if your kernel/alsa wasn't up-to-date, funny quirks could creep in if the kernel support for your particular variant wasn't there yet |
| 14:50 | <cinch> | imho get an external usb audio interface |
| 14:50 | <cinch> | <- wasted too much time with sound cards |
| 14:50 | <cinch> | and firewire o.o |
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| 14:51 | <cinch> | + all integrated audio cards suck |
| 14:51 | <SynrG> | *sometimes* you could fake out the kernel by forcing modprobe snd_hda_intel model=# (some model that is almost but not quite the same as yours) |
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| 14:51 | <cinch> | in terms of audio quality |
| 14:51 | <SynrG> | ymmv |
| 14:51 | <SynrG> | but this is typically to fix things like "there's no channel for ____" |
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| 14:51 | <SynrG> | or "i have this channel but it's only mono!" |
| 14:51 | <hulk> | hola |
| 14:51 | <SynrG> | or "mic doesn't work at all" |
| 14:52 | <cinch> | http://nwavguy.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/odac-released.html |
| 14:52 | <cinch> | ^^ |
| 14:52 | <cinch> | cheap high quality DAC |
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| 14:52 | <bike> | SynrG, hehe, had such a problem with my GF's thinkpad also |
| 14:52 | <cinch> | we need more of these :> |
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| 14:53 | <bike> | anyway, i'll be back if i find more or a solution , cheers! |
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| 14:54 | <cinch> | typical |
| 14:54 | <cinch> | random sound chip with crappy audio |
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| 15:50 | <Natiruts> | hello |
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| 15:54 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
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| 15:59 | <claw__> | how can i find out when syslinux 4.05+dfsg-3 was published ? |
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| 16:11 | <ompaul> | claw__: why is that interesting? |
| 16:11 | <ompaul> | ,versions syslinux |
| 16:11 | <judd> | Package: syslinux on i386 -- lenny: 2:3.71+dfsg-5; lenny-backports: 2:4.02+dfsg-7~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2:4.02+dfsg-7; squeeze-backports: 2:4.05+dfsg-2~bpo60+1; sid: 2:4.05+dfsg-6; wheezy: 2:4.05+dfsg-6 |
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| 16:14 | <ompaul> | claw__: it looks like you should dist-upgrade |
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| 16:20 | <claw__> | ompaul, because the ubuntu guys did not fixed a bug in it yet |
| 16:20 | <claw__> | which seams to be fixed since 8th May or earlier |
| 16:21 | <claw__> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=663302 |
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| 16:21 | <claw__> | its in their current lts that pxechain.com is missing |
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| 16:22 | <claw__> | but they say they are to busy to fix it because the are providing new features to a not yet released version of ubuntu |
| 16:22 | <claw__> | and this is irresponseable |
| 16:23 | <ompaul> | claw__: and why is that interesting here? |
| 16:23 | <claw__> | because i want to expect the time past between today and the fix |
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| 16:24 | <ompaul> | http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/syslinux/news/20120508T145723Z.html |
| 16:24 | <ompaul> | claw__: install debian and get on with it |
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| 16:25 | <claw__> | i would if that server would be mine |
| 16:25 | <ompaul> | you can on the other hand type syslinux into amazon and get http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=syslinux back ;-) |
| 16:25 | * | ompaul couldn't resist the cheap jibe |
| 16:25 | <claw__> | :D |
| 16:26 | <claw__> | im not an ubuntu user so dont try to fool me with that stupid lenses |
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| 16:27 | <claw__> | apt-get install postfix \n Want to set up postfix? Learn how by books on Amazon! |
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| 16:27 | * | ompaul thinks we should leave the problems to the problem owners |
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| 16:38 | <project2501b> | guys, someone should take a look at the openmpi-bin package . #626164 says that SGE support was built in, but i just upgraded to the same version that the resolution mentions (1.4.5-1) and still no SGE supoprt |
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| 16:39 | <cyberFuntik> | привет с марса |
| 16:39 | <project2501b> | !russian |
| 16:39 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
| 16:40 | <cyberFuntik> | hello from the hell! |
| 16:40 | <project2501b> | Moscow is not that bad. |
| 16:40 | <cyberFuntik> | you sure? ) |
| 16:42 | <project2501b> | I live in saudi arabia. we have no vodka, tawarich |
| 16:42 | <cyberFuntik> | I'm like vodka ) |
| 16:43 | <cyberFuntik> | I'm like Debian kFreeBDS ) |
| 16:43 | <MrFrood> | project2501b: drive over the causway to bahrain then (heads back to ot) |
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| 16:58 | <project2501b> | hey guys, can i get some help, please? if this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626164 says that my issue is fixed in 2011, doesn't that mean that it should have rolled into testing already? |
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| 17:02 | <retrospectacus> | ,v openmpi-bin |
| 17:02 | <judd> | Package: openmpi-bin on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.7~rc2-2; squeeze: 1.4.2-4; sid: 1.4.5-1; wheezy: 1.4.5-1 |
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| 17:05 | <retrospectacus> | ,v libopenmpi2 |
| 17:05 | <judd> | No package named 'libopenmpi2' was found in i386. |
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| 17:06 | <retrospectacus> | project2501b: looks like it was fixed in v.1.5.4 which is not in debian yet |
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| 17:09 | <project2501b> | retrospectacus: it is in testing. |
| 17:09 | <project2501b> | i am running it as we speak |
| 17:10 | <project2501b> | 1 got 1.5.4-1 but no such file in the archive |
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| 17:10 | <retrospectacus> | I'm seeing 1.4.5 in testing |
| 17:10 | <project2501b> | and i run testing. but no such file in that package. |
| 17:11 | <project2501b> | it's in sid, though |
| 17:11 | <project2501b> | well libopenmpi1.6 |
| 17:12 | <project2501b> | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/libopenmpi-dev/filelist see? no ras_sge |
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| 17:14 | <project2501b> | does that mean that i should re-open the ticket? |
| 17:14 | <retrospectacus> | according to the bug report that is fixed in 1.5.4; I don't see that version of any of those packages in debian |
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| 17:15 | <project2501b> | retrospectacus: maybe i got this wrong, but i thought that the package version is most of the times the packaged software version. am i wrong? |
| 17:16 | <me5440> | I'm not sure what is wrong... I upgraded iceweasel but there's an add-on I never installed now |
| 17:16 | <me5440> | any way to remove it? |
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| 17:16 | <me5440> | iceweasel 10 -> 16.0.1 |
| 17:17 | <project2501b> | me5440: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/disable-or-remove-add-ons |
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| 17:17 | <me5440> | also, adblock plus was added automatically at start up but there's no remove option...strange... is this typical? |
| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | project2501b: I'm just not sure how you "got 1.5.4-1" |
| 17:18 | <project2501b> | apt-get install openmpi-bin works. |
| 17:18 | <project2501b> | you can also get openmpi-checkpoint, if you need checkpointing |
| 17:18 | <project2501b> | slow, thought |
| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | even sid only has 1.4.5 |
| 17:18 | <me5440> | there's no remove button ...geez |
| 17:19 | <project2501b> | retrospectacus: you should be looking at libopenmpi1.6 in sid |
| 17:19 | <me5440> | must be a bug in iceweasel 16? |
| 17:19 | <project2501b> | (which has support for the sun grid engine) |
| 17:21 | <me5440> | where's the xpi file (folder)? |
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| 17:42 | <nutron> | The wheezy installer is easily dd'ed to a usb key no? I've tried it with 3 different usb drives and each boot fails saying that the initrd is invalid, please insert "disk" and press enter. |
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| 17:43 | <nutron> | Oh and this happens with the beta and nightly builds. |
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| 17:51 | <me5440> | nutron, I copied the beta2 debian netinstall to usb drive.... installed it and on it now |
| 17:51 | <nutron> | grr wth... |
| 17:52 | <me5440> | I hear ya, though... I wish debian had good instructions for it |
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| 17:52 | <nutron> | maybe both images I downloaded are corrupt...? |
| 17:52 | <me5440> | did you check the md5sum? |
| 17:52 | <nutron> | nein... |
| 17:52 | <nutron> | will do |
| 17:52 | <me5440> | do you have the right parameters when you do the command? |
| 17:53 | <nutron> | dd if=debian-net-installer.iso of=/dev/sde |
| 17:53 | <nutron> | pardon me: add sudo to the beginning of that line. |
| 17:54 | <nutron> | Also run sync after it runs to ensure I can remove the drive... 3 different drives. It's not the computer since it boots fine, and starts a grml usb stick no problem... I'm just assuming I got some bad data then. |
| 17:54 | <me5440> | # dd if=debian-net-installer.iso of=/dev/sdx ..yeah |
| 17:55 | <me5440> | it's unmounted, right? |
| 17:55 | <me5440> | also, I always format it beforehand... dunno if it matters but I think it should be FAT32 |
| 17:56 | <me5440> | I use gparted |
| 17:56 | <me5440> | I assume you did those |
| 17:56 | <me5440> | so, yeah, could be the download... smth happened? need to do the md5sum check |
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| 17:58 | <me5440> | can anyone help me locate the xpi file and folder that corresponds to a particular mozilla extension ID? |
| 17:58 | <me5440> | i thought it'd be in .mozilla ???? :-/ |
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| 18:09 | <me5440> | i know the id but it's impossible to search for this? |
| 18:09 | <me5440> | even in windows, one can |
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| 18:19 | <nutron> | well it doesn't need a partition technically since it will define its own from the image, at least that's how it has worked for me in the past. |
| 18:19 | <nutron> | Yeah not mounted either. |
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| 18:51 | <me5440> | gonna re-install ... this is bs |
| 18:52 | <me5440> | i hope debian will switch default DE soon... gnome 3 is a piece of shit |
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| 18:54 | <me5440> | gnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is |
| 18:54 | <me5440> | shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnom |
| 18:54 | <me5440> | e3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shi |
| 18:54 | <me5440> | tgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shitgnome3 is shit |
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| 18:55 | <MrFrood> | !ops me5440 |
| 18:55 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: mrfrood complains about: me5440 |
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| 19:07 | <pieb> | yo ppl |
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| 19:09 | <MrFrood> | you have a question? |
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| 19:09 | <pieb> | No not really, just testing xChat on my raspberry pi. |
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| 19:10 | <MrFrood> | probably best to test in offtopic ;) |
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| 19:19 | <knoppix__> | hi |
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| 19:26 | <OptimusAnal> | hay guise, I have a printer Im trying to install on 64bit squeeze box wit 3.2.x kernel, and Brother, the printer manufacturer only offers a 32bit deb for the driver, |
| 19:26 | <OptimusAnal> | Is there anyway to install a 32bit printer driver on a 64bit debian install? |
| 19:27 | <siddy> | what is the printer model? |
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| 19:27 | <OptimusAnal> | MFC-J265w |
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| 19:27 | <OptimusAnal> | I tried to use the Gnome printer installer but its not in the list of available drivers |
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| 19:28 | <Roger72> | I'm trying to configure iptables with fwbuilder to allow VPN but there's a problem when I use tun0 as an interface if anyone knows how to setup this would be nice |
| 19:28 | <OptimusAnal> | I would just run a cat5 over to it and share it from a 32bit debian box, but its wifi an usb only |
| 19:29 | <OptimusAnal> | and Im lazy, guess I can physically attach it to a 32bit system |
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| 19:34 | <siddy> | i dunno... i noticed an ubuntu driver 64-bit |
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| 19:40 | <OptimusAnal> | u did? |
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| 19:43 | <MrFrood> | http://www.openprinting.org/printers/ |
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| 19:59 | <OptimusAnal> | Question, I have a printer that is connected to one of my 32bit debian systems, and there is no 64bit driver for it so I can connect my 64bit debian systems directly to the printer, can I somehow print from the 64bit boxes through the 32bit boxes via a shared printer? and if so, which ports are required to be opened? |
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| 20:08 | <OptimusAnal> | YAY! |
| 20:08 | <OptimusAnal> | I just shared the printer on the 32bit system with CUPS, and the 64bit system is printing away! |
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| 20:23 | <jonas_> | Good night! someone could tell me why I can not install ia32-libs in debian Wheezy for "lack of facilities"? |
| 20:23 | <jonas_> | I was trying to install Wine and Skype, but it still fails. The method multiarch did not work with any of them |
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| 20:24 | <retrospectacus> | !tell jonas_ about multiarch |
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| 21:18 | <cindyasarisuratno> | heello |
| 21:18 | <cindyasarisuratno> | any body?> |
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| 21:19 | <dvs> | zzzzzzzzzz |
| 21:19 | <dvs> | !ask |
| 21:19 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 21:59 | <debman> | Hello again! faithfully follow the Debian wiki for use in multiarch installation of Skype and it did not work. I'm using Debian Wheezy AMD64 and I can not install any application that requires the libraries ia32-libs because they are with broken dependencies for being replaced by multiarch support this version. Anyone have any idea what to do? I'm trying everything I can for days! |
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| 22:07 | <debman> | Hello again! faithfully follow the Debian wiki for use in multiarch installation of Skype and it did not work. I'm using Debian Wheezy AMD64 and I can not install any application that requires the libraries ia32-libs because they are with broken dependencies for being replaced by multiarch support this version. Anyone have any idea what to do? I'm trying everything I can for days! |
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| 22:12 | <debman> | HELP-ME! I NEED WORK! |
| 22:12 | <debman> | Hello again! faithfully follow the Debian wiki for use in multiarch installation of Skype and it did not work. I'm using Debian Wheezy AMD64 and I can not install any application that requires the libraries ia32-libs because they are with broken dependencies for being replaced by multiarch support this version. Anyone have any idea what to do? I'm trying everything I can for days! |
| 22:13 | <Analingus> | Skype is evil |
| 22:13 | <Analingus> | do not use it |
| 22:14 | <Analingus> | Unless you enjoy having microsoft and the entire USG listening to your calls, not to mention risking getting a USG CPAV Trojan forced down your throat |
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| 22:15 | <debman> | Analyngus Yes, the problem is that some of my contacts use it also estout endo problem with ALL programs that would use ia32-libs ... you recommend me some voip alternative to Skype? |
| 22:16 | <Analingus> | mmm thats what the world needs |
| 22:16 | <Analingus> | indeed |
| 22:18 | <debman> | Microsoft for its part, does not seek to make things easier when it comes to compatibility with Linux ... |
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| 22:20 | <debman> | I'm using the site imo.im to use Skype and other (simultaneamente!). I only used Skype as a reference to help describe a problem I'm having with various programs, including WIne. |
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| 23:16 | <siddy> | why is it taking forever to download an .iso? :( |
| 23:17 | <Analingus> | because your internet sucks? |
| 23:18 | <Analingus> | rogers cable, yeah it sucks |
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| 23:19 | <siddy> | and you know this, how? |
| 23:20 | <Analingus> | because I am omnimpotent |
| 23:20 | <|Anthony|> | I'm in the process of installing debian wheezy with the beta 1 installer. I selected erase and setup encrypted lvm about 2 hours ago. It's still erasing an 80GB drive. What gives? |
| 23:21 | <Analingus> | have your checked the health of the drive using the manufacturers diagnostics utilities? |
| 23:21 | <Analingus> | Its an old disk, might have issues |
| 23:21 | <Analingus> | WesterDigital=Use Data LifeGuard tools, Seagate, Use Seatools |
| 23:22 | <Analingus> | IBM=use IBM DFT |
| 23:22 | <|Anthony|> | haven't recently, but the machine has been on the shelf for about 3 months and SMART was fine when i put it to bed |
| 23:22 | <Analingus> | or you could use any generic tool to simply check the smart status of the disk |
| 23:22 | <Analingus> | yeah |
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| 23:22 | <Analingus> | When in doubt, check the disk with diagnostics |
| 23:22 | <Analingus> | dont just check smart, use the manu utils |
| 23:22 | <|Anthony|> | does the installer do a urandom fill for it erase function? |
| 23:23 | <Analingus> | no idea, also there likely is a superior linux solution for these diagnostics tools |
| 23:23 | <Analingus> | Usually when I have a bad disk and dont know it, coz I was being lazy and didnt test the disk, it gets stuck around 33% for a long ass time then fail |
| 23:24 | <|Anthony|> | i could understand the time if it is a urandom fill, but simply deleting the table should be done before i hit "continue" |
| 23:24 | <|Anthony|> | lol |
| 23:24 | <Analingus> | yeah the disk prolly has issues |
| 23:24 | <Analingus> | how old is the box? |
| 23:24 | <|Anthony|> | mmm |
| 23:24 | <Analingus> | PIII or older might need to make sure LBA mode is enabled in the bios |
| 23:24 | <|Anthony|> | its a sata drive |
| 23:24 | <Analingus> | and make sure your not using....the wrong pata cable, ok that rules that out |
| 23:25 | <|Anthony|> | i forget when i bought this one in particular |
| 23:25 | <Analingus> | yeah check bios and make sure the SATA controller is in AHCI mode |
| 23:25 | <|Anthony|> | i'm sure it is |
| 23:25 | <Analingus> | yeah test it |
| 23:25 | <Analingus> | once it passes a diag from the manufacturer then you can rule that out |
| 23:25 | <|Anthony|> | just re-purposing an existing build |
| 23:25 | <Analingus> | hey man |
| 23:26 | <|Anthony|> | i suppose i should |
| 23:26 | <Analingus> | Im using synergy with two old laptops. PIII and P4 with a p4 webserver |
| 23:26 | <|Anthony|> | ha |
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| 23:26 | <Analingus> | they do just find for administering a small network |
| 23:26 | <Analingus> | fine |
| 23:26 | <Analingus> | Besides, old iron has character |
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| 23:27 | <Analingus> | supposing these little things get a bit of soul with age |
| 23:27 | <Analingus> | just replace the caps from time to time and your ok |
| 23:27 | <|Anthony|> | lappys make great re-purposed servers |
| 23:27 | <|Anthony|> | sometimes |
| 23:27 | <Analingus> | netbooks with smashed lcds are great squid boxes to stash into your network gear |
| 23:27 | <|Anthony|> | if you put them in something NOT a laptop enclosure |
| 23:28 | <|Anthony|> | little breathing room helps loads |
| 23:28 | <Analingus> | Oh I buy Media enclosures from home depot, installed them embedded in the sheetrock |
| 23:28 | <Analingus> | cat5 running in all the walls |
| 23:28 | <|Anthony|> | home depot? |
| 23:28 | <Analingus> | kinda nice to NOT see my routers/switches/squidbox |
| 23:28 | <Analingus> | yeah lemme pm you a link |
| 23:28 | <Analingus> | u gotta get one of these installed |
| 23:28 | <|Anthony|> | yeah a link is nice |
| 23:28 | <Analingus> | sec |
| 23:29 | <|Anthony|> | meh, all my shiz is in the basement. |
| 23:29 | <|Anthony|> | pfsense firewall, and a multiseat rig running my desktop and an xbmc session to the living room |
| 23:30 | <Analingus> | http://www.homedepot.com/buy/leviton-structured-media-14-in-telecommunication-enclosure-with-cover-r02-47605-140.html#.UHjgEcytWxQ watch the videos |
| 23:31 | <Analingus> | pfsense is trivial and fun to tinker with |
| 23:31 | <|Anthony|> | shoot, $35. i'm in |
| 23:31 | <Analingus> | has some neato features, IMspector is a fun way to intercept instant messaging |
| 23:31 | <Analingus> | but, I dont like BSD |
| 23:31 | <|Anthony|> | heh |
| 23:31 | <Analingus> | squid on pfsense sucks |
| 23:31 | <Analingus> | id rather run it on debian so I have full control |
| 23:32 | <|Anthony|> | trivial? yeah, if you leave it as is |
| 23:32 | <Analingus> | well, if I was good with BSD I might have been able to bend it to my will a bit more |
| 23:32 | <|Anthony|> | lol |
| 23:32 | <Analingus> | but Ive sinced learned how to use ipfilters and standalone squid |
| 23:32 | <Analingus> | I do like freenas tho |
| 23:33 | <|Anthony|> | snort and HAVP run on pfsense |
| 23:33 | <|Anthony|> | like that |
| 23:33 | <Analingus> | yeah Ive used that inline av before |
| 23:33 | <Analingus> | only issue is if you dont have super fast internet, your workstations take forever waiting for the serve to download/scan,= annoyed users |
| 23:33 | <|Anthony|> | also nice is to use... wtf are they calling it now... pfblocker or something. |
| 23:33 | <|Anthony|> | basically dansguardian |
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| 23:36 | <Analingus> | never heard of it |
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| 23:36 | <Analingus> | I do use squid3 proxy on my lan to filter traffic tho |
| 23:36 | <|Anthony|> | http://speedtest.net/result/2232206100.png |
| 23:36 | <Analingus> | Build my own custom blacklists based on publicly available ones |
| 23:36 | <|Anthony|> | ;) |
| 23:37 | <Analingus> | gotta protect kids from the porno, and the silly windows users from chinese/russian malware |
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| 23:37 | <Analingus> | btw that media enclosure, comes with a nice white cover that makes it all flush with the wall |
| 23:37 | <|Anthony|> | saw that |
| 23:37 | <Analingus> | one version has a hinged door, and another has a screwed down cover |
| 23:37 | <Analingus> | they cost the same |
| 23:38 | <Analingus> | and hope depot usually has three sizes in stock |
| 23:38 | <Analingus> | diff price for each larger box |
| 23:38 | <Analingus> | NICE speed, that you? |
| 23:38 | <Analingus> | oh well, FIOS, of course |
| 23:39 | <|Anthony|> | sure is |
| 23:39 | <|Anthony|> | for $100/mth it better be rocket fast |
| 23:39 | <Analingus> | also home depot has a nice exterior waterproof enclosure I found useful for exterior POE device mounting |
| 23:39 | <Analingus> | got a mikrotik out there now |
| 23:39 | <Analingus> | failover to my nieghbor |
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| 23:40 | <Analingus> | if his internet goes down, he routes through me |
| 23:40 | <|Anthony|> | share with the neighbor |
| 23:40 | <Analingus> | if mine goes down, I route through him |
| 23:40 | <|Anthony|> | lol |
| 23:40 | <Analingus> | ECMP with OSPF |
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| 23:41 | <|Anthony|> | could you guys bridge your connections? |
| 23:44 | <|Anthony|> | like instead of it being a failover , aggregate the bandwidth |
| 23:45 | <|Anthony|> | that's not entirely possible though now is it |
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| 23:57 | <siddy> | how do you upgrade the kernel from 3.2 to 3.5? have to use experimental? |
| 23:57 | <Analingus> | well I use routes to go between |
| 23:57 | <Analingus> | no idea prolly aint gunna get 3.5 from backports tho |
| 23:57 | <Analingus> | lol |
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