| --- | Log | opened Sat Oct 13 00:00:41 2012 |
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| 00:02 | <Analingus> | Aha! my user is using her newly installed copy of Debian Squeeze and I so far, it is good. No more Windows 7 Slaveware, I will free my users |
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| 00:44 | <Analingus> | Iceweasel is crap, no html5 support |
| 00:45 | <Analingus> | Need u guise to ship a better browser |
| 00:45 | <Analingus> | Iceweasel doesnt understand html5 and thus, doesnt render websites properly |
| 00:45 | <Analingus> | I manually install the latest firefox |
| 00:46 | <Analingus> | But, really, Iceweasel is like firefox 3.5 which is fricking ancient |
| 00:46 | <Analingus> | 2008/2009 |
| 00:46 | <Analingus> | 4 year old browser, I win the argument, its outdated and needs to be replaced |
| 00:46 | <gdb> | So is stable, so quit bitching and use something else. |
| 00:46 | <Analingus> | sir, Firefox 16 is pretty stable so far as I can see |
| 00:48 | <Analingus> | and most users will use the current "stable" release, asking them to use an "unstable distro" in order to get html5 support is unacceptable |
| 00:48 | <Analingus> | they need to break the rules and introduce a better browser, just this one time |
| 00:48 | <Nemoder> | just updated it http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 00:48 | <Nemoder> | works pretty well for me |
| 00:48 | <Analingus> | really? |
| 00:48 | <Analingus> | just now?? |
| 00:49 | <Nemoder> | sorry, I mean I updated my system from there |
| 00:50 | <Analingus> | I wasnt trying to come off as a jerk, just that iceweasel I got isnt rendering pages properly as they were intended to be displayed |
| 00:50 | <Analingus> | I am a web publisher |
| 00:50 | <gdb> | You name yourself after ass licking then come in here and whine about Iceweasel in stable. And you're *not* trying to be a jerk? Hah! Funny man. |
| 00:51 | <Analingus> | ikr |
| 00:51 | <gdb> | lol |
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| 00:51 | <Analingus> | Im a nice guy, cmawn |
| 00:51 | <Analingus> | so any idea when the next "stable release" will be out? |
| 00:51 | <Analingus> | SID right? |
| 00:51 | <gdb> | On d-s systems, I setup the Chrome repo. |
| 00:51 | <Nemoder> | it's frozen now, it'll be out when the bugs are fixed |
| 00:52 | <Analingus> | chrome, ew, Chrome is great and certainly leads when it comes to new web design features, but its just too corney for me, Ill stick with Firefox |
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| 00:53 | <Nemoder> | firefox binaries work but if you want better system integration use backports or mozilla.debian.net |
| 00:53 | <Analingus> | But I do note and respect that Chrome is certainly ahead of the pack when it comes to new html5 features |
| 00:53 | <Analingus> | yeah see im a noob, and the term "backports" makes me think of old software |
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| 00:53 | <Nemoder> | !backports |
| 00:53 | <dpkg> | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 00:53 | <Analingus> | so backports is actually where the fresh software is? |
| 00:54 | <gdb> | Yes, "ported backwards" to the older stable release. |
| 00:54 | <Analingus> | NICE |
| 00:54 | <Analingus> | why do those homos over at ubuntu get "firefox" from repos but we get monkeys and weasels? |
| 00:54 | <gdb> | To be fair, Analingus (I have to chortle when I type that), I agree that Debian's policy with regards to certain desktop applications is a mistake. But it is what it is. |
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| 00:55 | <gdb> | Because they're willing to abide by Mozilla's trademark requirements. Debian isn't, or Firefox becomes "non-free". |
| 00:55 | <Nemoder> | !why iceweasel |
| 00:55 | <dpkg> | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 00:56 | <Nemoder> | I think it's silly they couldn't work out something to just call it debian-firefox but whatever, it works so i'm happy. |
| 00:56 | <buddha> | I need help. My setup was working OK. Then I installed nvidia-libvdpau-dev to get rid of the blue people problem I was having wiht youtube. When I rebooted I got XORG.CONF erros about nvidia drivers not found. So I tried to back everythingout by deleting the xorg.conf and the NVIDIA-LIBVDPAU-DEV pacakge and now GLXGEARS will not run. |
| 00:57 | <Nemoder> | buddha: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 00:59 | <Analingus> | Hmm, Im using nivdia and I dont have any issues with flash |
| 01:00 | <Analingus> | Im using Nvidia Proprietary drivers and Adobe flash plugin with Firefox 16 on debian squeeze wit 3.2.x kernel |
| 01:00 | <buddha> | http://pastebin.com/EJb8ZPMR |
| 01:00 | <Analingus> | thos novoua drivers or w/e they are called, are, shall we say, leaving a lot to be desired compared to the official nvidia drivers, in my opinion |
| 01:00 | <Nemoder> | if flash detects vdpau in some cases the bug shows up |
| 01:01 | <Analingus> | also I remove gnash so flash plugin takes over |
| 01:01 | <Analingus> | I dont like using non-free, but if it works, it works |
| 01:01 | <Nemoder> | buddha: look at lines 64-67 |
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| 01:02 | <Nemoder> | I took a hex editor to adobe's plugin and renamed vdpau, that fixed it for me. |
| 01:02 | <Analingus> | bwhahah |
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| 01:03 | <Nemoder> | and programs that aren't retarded like mplayer and vlc can still make use of it |
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| 01:03 | <buddha> | Nemoder, ok let me take a look |
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| 01:04 | <buddha> | Nemoder, how do I fix that? |
| 01:04 | <Nemoder> | reinstall the driver |
| 01:05 | <buddha> | So back everything out with apt-get remove nvidia-common? then reinstall with apt-get install xorg-driver-nvidia? |
| 01:06 | <Analingus> | purge |
| 01:06 | <Analingus> | apt-get purge nvidia-common |
| 01:06 | <Analingus> | purge makes sure all the configs are removed |
| 01:06 | <Analingus> | otherwise botched configuration files will remain |
| 01:06 | <Nemoder> | you can also apt-get install --reinstall |
| 01:07 | <Analingus> | yeah but I dont think that purges old confs |
| 01:07 | <Analingus> | I am a noob so correct me if I am wrong |
| 01:08 | <Analingus> | :) |
| 01:08 | <Nemoder> | that is correct, though I'm not sure it would matter for his problem |
| 01:08 | <Analingus> | tru |
| 01:08 | <Nemoder> | the video driver comes in two parts and he's got one part new and one part old, so just reinstalling with everything the same version should correct it |
| 01:08 | <Analingus> | ok im going to be quiet and go back to my corner now |
| 01:09 | <Analingus> | :P |
| 01:09 | <Analingus> | !porno |
| 01:09 | <Analingus> | !block porno |
| 01:09 | <Analingus> | hmm |
| 01:10 | <Analingus> | !backports |
| 01:10 | <dpkg> | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 01:10 | <Nemoder> | you can /msg dpkg directly to query it without spamming the channel |
| 01:10 | <Analingus> | k |
| 01:11 | <buddha> | Nemoder, ok I purged all the nvidia-* packages. How would you recommend I reinstall so that I I get he patched libvdpau a no blue people on youtube. |
| 01:11 | <Nemoder> | I'm not sure what the official method to fix that is, but driver install guide is: |
| 01:11 | <Nemoder> | !nvidia |
| 01:11 | <dpkg> | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages) or <nvidia dkms>. For GPUs made before 2004, ask me about <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:12 | <Analingus> | Hey can I use cron scheduling to wake the machine to run tasks |
| 01:13 | <Nemoder> | wouldn't it need to be awake for cron to work? |
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| 01:16 | <Analingus> | yeah like I want my scheduled clamscans and updates to run at night |
| 01:17 | <Analingus> | its a lappy thats always plugged in at night and I like to conserve electricity |
| 01:18 | <Analingus> | Windows pcs can wake up from sleep to run scheduled tasks, so I dont see why not in Debian |
| 01:18 | <Analingus> | I supposed I could do wakeonlan from another box thats always on, one of my servers, but that wouldnt work since that laptops on wifi |
| 01:20 | <Nemoder> | ah, perhaps possible then, I don't know much about power management. my machine never sleeps |
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| 01:21 | <Analingus> | mmm |
| 01:21 | <Analingus> | I think theres a utility called rtcwake |
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| 01:25 | <Analingus> | !nvram-wakeup |
| 01:25 | * | Analingus slaps dpkg and does his job for him |
| 01:25 | <Analingus> | http://linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Nvram_wakeup |
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| 01:52 | <slowCoder> | ok |
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| 01:55 | <buddha> | Hi I"m back.. Everything is working again including GLX. Now is there a way to easily install the LIBVDPAU with the patch without screwing things up again? |
| 01:56 | <buddha> | Nemoder, any ideas? |
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| 02:03 | <buddha> | Anyone know how I can install the libvdpau patch for nvidia? |
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| 02:10 | <Analingus> | whats it do? |
| 02:12 | <Analingus> | !libvdpau |
| 02:12 | * | Analingus slaps dpkg |
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| 02:13 | <Analingus> | Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix (libraries) |
| 02:15 | <Analingus> | apt-get install nvidia-libvdpau1 -y ? |
| 02:16 | <Analingus> | nvidia-libvdpau1 - NVIDIA vdpau libraries (transitional package) |
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| 02:52 | <me5440> | how do you seek help when no one answers in the kde channel?/ |
| 02:53 | <dragondon> | hey gang. Two problems. I can't seem to get a volume control added to the panel (only adds mic) and streaming audio doesn't work(yet audio works everywhere else) |
| 02:53 | <me5440> | try the kde panel |
| 02:53 | <me5440> | :-/ |
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| 02:54 | <me5440> | I just tried gnome3 and it was too awful so I can't help you.... but, at least gnome3 didn't crash... I've had four crashes already since I installed kde |
| 02:55 | <me5440> | I guess that's why torvalds criticized both gnome3 and kde .... and installed xfce |
| 02:56 | <me5440> | I want another crash |
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| 03:00 | <me5440> | crashed again! unbelievable! |
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| 03:01 | <me5440> | debian wheezy is worthless with kde!! |
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| 03:01 | <me5440> | kickoff menu is really slow.... and I get constant freezes |
| 03:01 | <blubberdiblub> | 1) wheezy is testing 2) if kde doesn't work for you, use something else |
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| 03:02 | <me5440> | something must be wrong... why would they release it for downloading? |
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| 03:02 | <blubberdiblub> | it's available for downloading. it's not "released", tho |
| 03:03 | <me5440> | this is as bad as I've ever seen it |
| 03:03 | <me5440> | it's a brand new install |
| 03:03 | <blubberdiblub> | wheezy is testing |
| 03:03 | <blubberdiblub> | squeeze is stable |
| 03:03 | <me5440> | I have siduction on another machine and not nearly as many problems |
| 03:03 | <me5440> | so?// |
| 03:03 | <blubberdiblub> | if you want something stable, use squeeze |
| 03:03 | <me5440> | stable? how do you know?!? |
| 03:04 | <blubberdiblub> | *sigh* |
| 03:04 | <me5440> | you don't understand my point at all? |
| 03:04 | <blubberdiblub> | !tell me5440 about stable |
| 03:04 | <blubberdiblub> | you point is invalid |
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| 03:04 | <blubberdiblub> | it's expected that things in debian testing can break |
| 03:05 | <me5440> | so siduction which is based on sid is working ok but debian wheezy kde is crashing/freezing after a brand new install.... |
| 03:05 | <blubberdiblub> | siduction is not debian. you can't compare their releases to debian releases |
| 03:06 | <me5440> | I thought debian wheezy was frozen anyway |
| 03:06 | <me5440> | I tried it on gnome3 and it wasn't crashing ... totally different experience |
| 03:06 | <blubberdiblub> | it is frozen. frozen means they'll work mainly on bugs and fixes |
| 03:06 | <blubberdiblub> | it doesn't mean it's ready for release |
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| 03:06 | <me5440> | but, the effects were annoying and I hate that there's no restart in the menu... only power off and suspend |
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| 03:07 | <blubberdiblub> | well, the choice is yours, you don't have to use it. you should probably complain to the gnome people if you dislike their decisions |
| 03:07 | <me5440> | do you know if the developers are taking drugs now? I don't know why anyone would release it like that |
| 03:08 | <blubberdiblub> | release what? |
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| 03:08 | <me5440> | the desktop environments as they are |
| 03:08 | <blubberdiblub> | well, i don't know. xfce works fine here |
| 03:09 | <dragondon> | i tried xfce, wasn't a fan, sticking with gnome for now. anyhoo, does anyone have any isuess with getting avolume control in the panel added ? |
| 03:10 | <me5440> | this machine is not mine... but, I might have to advise they try xfce ... I'm at a loss of what to do :( |
| 03:10 | <me5440> | gnome3? |
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| 03:10 | <me5440> | I don't know how anyone uses that |
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| 03:10 | <me5440> | they designed NO restart / reboot in the menu anywhere! |
| 03:11 | <me5440> | and the effects are so annoying... stop moving the windows around!!! |
| 03:11 | <blubberdiblub> | you should probably complain to the gnome people |
| 03:11 | <me5440> | they want it for mobile devices so there's no thought in the desktop |
| 03:11 | <me5440> | but, debian's default DE is gnome |
| 03:12 | <me5440> | THEY chose gnome3 |
| 03:12 | <dragondon> | I thought that the next release will be xfce? |
| 03:12 | <blubberdiblub> | there's no gnome3 on squeeze, afaik |
| 03:12 | <me5440> | yeah, they only are choosing xfce for the next one to fit everything on cd |
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| 03:18 | <me5440> | the kde channel never has anyone talking or responding either |
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| 03:26 | <me5440> | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=85533 |
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| 03:27 | <me5440> | ppl reporting freezes on all DEs but I found kde was bad... gnome3 no freezes but just an annoying DE to use |
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| 03:27 | <me5440> | how does one upgrade the kernel to, say, 3.5? I wonder why debian didn't upgrade it to 3.5 if 3.2 is so bad |
| 03:28 | <m0RrE> | Very random error today. Never seen it before. Google is no help. |
| 03:28 | <m0RrE> | dpkg-deb (subprocess): data: internal gzip read error: '<fd:0>: invalid distance too far back' |
| 03:28 | <m0RrE> | ideas? |
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| 03:31 | <blubberdiblub> | me5440, i don't see what brings you to the conclusion that 3.2 is bad. 3.2 runs fine here |
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| 03:33 | <me5440> | I said above |
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| 03:35 | <blubberdiblub> | no, you didn't. you're speculating |
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| 03:37 | <me5440> | i've read on other sites about probs with 3.2... I'm just saying I installed 3.2 with kde and getting a lot of freezes |
| 03:37 | <me5440> | besides kde being a pain... the panel is awful... why are these DEs getting worse? :( |
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| 03:39 | <me5440> | text is corrupted on the bottom iceweasel tab now |
| 03:39 | <blubberdiblub> | i doubt that the freezes are related to the kernel version. doesn't make sense to me. unless it's a complete freeze and you can't even ssh to the box anymore |
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| 03:40 | <me5440> | yes, four or five complete freezes in the last hour... had to hard reboot |
| 03:40 | <blubberdiblub> | so you can't ssh to the box anymore? |
| 03:41 | <me5440> | i can only have one computer online |
| 03:41 | <blubberdiblub> | *sigh* |
| 03:41 | <me5440> | :( |
| 03:41 | <blubberdiblub> | how can you know it's a complete freeze then? |
| 03:41 | <me5440> | i want to get a wifi device |
| 03:42 | <me5440> | because everything is non-responsive? |
| 03:42 | <blubberdiblub> | that's not the point |
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| 03:42 | <me5440> | ok, maybe it's x-server? |
| 03:42 | <blubberdiblub> | if X is unresponsive, that doesn't necessarily mean that the rest of the system is as well |
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| 03:43 | <blubberdiblub> | and if it's just X, it's quite improbable that the kernel is involved there |
| 03:43 | <me5440> | well, the ppl who upgraded to 3.5, said their problems went away |
| 03:43 | <me5440> | so, if it was X, does that get upgraded to? |
| 03:43 | <blubberdiblub> | i doubt that's the only thing they did |
| 03:44 | <me5440> | i don't think so |
| 03:44 | <blubberdiblub> | show me an article of a person that only upgraded their kernel and had their problem go away |
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| 03:47 | <me5440> | when you install, do you use a usb stick or cd/dvd? |
| 03:47 | <me5440> | I just think I'll have to re-install at some point... when i give the computer back, if it keeps freezing, I'll have to fix it :( |
| 03:47 | <blubberdiblub> | whichever you like and works best for you |
| 03:48 | <me5440> | I'm asking what you do |
| 03:48 | <blubberdiblub> | i haven't had a need to install debian from scratch for years. i always upgraded my installations |
| 03:51 | <blubberdiblub> | if you have a non-ancient BIOS, installing from stick should work fine. if it doesn't, use a cd/dvd |
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| 03:52 | <me5440> | froze again |
| 03:52 | <me5440> | mouse pointer could move around but that's it |
| 03:53 | <blubberdiblub> | try Ctrl-Alt-F1 next time to see if you can get to a text console |
| 03:53 | <me5440> | I tried that.... nothing happened |
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| 03:53 | <blubberdiblub> | Ctrl-Alt-F1, not just Alt-F1 |
| 03:54 | <me5440> | I know |
| 03:54 | <me5440> | I tried some other combinations... too... if it switched run levels and went to a shell, that would at least be something |
| 03:54 | <me5440> | but nothing happened |
| 03:55 | <blubberdiblub> | it doesn't switch runlevels by itself without you telling it to |
| 03:57 | <me5440> | still nothing happens |
| 03:57 | <blubberdiblub> | does the combination work when it's not yet frozen? |
| 03:58 | <blubberdiblub> | Alt-F7 usually brings you back, btw |
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| 03:59 | <me5440> | i screwed up... well, i dunno but had some message afterwards... var. log? anyway, it sorta works |
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| 04:07 | <me5440> | i think it's the effects in kde (plasma?) or X |
| 04:07 | <me5440> | when the kde menu pops up... the screen doesn't always get 'repainted' properly |
| 04:07 | <me5440> | it's slow at timess |
| 04:07 | <me5440> | so, will i avoid these problems with an xfce desktop? |
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| 04:12 | <dragondon> | does anyone know of a trick to get jango.com to stream to Debian? It seems the don't like LInux.... |
| 04:12 | <blubberdiblub> | well, xfce works really fine for me. i never had any repainting problems. it very rarely freezes on me, too, but i can still Ctrl-Alt-F1 to a text console and restart X. my freezes are not kernel related. i'm using testing/wheezy, so i'm fine with it doing it in those rare cases |
| 04:14 | <blubberdiblub> | dragondon, works for me. it's apparently a flash player on their site |
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| 04:15 | <me5440> | why kicked?// |
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| 04:15 | <blubberdiblub> | you typed too many lines in too short a time frame |
| 04:15 | <dragondon> | how odd.... blubberdiblub you using iceweasel? |
| 04:16 | <blubberdiblub> | dragondon, yes, iceweasel 10 |
| 04:16 | <dragondon> | hmm, using v16 here..... |
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| 04:17 | <dragondon> | blubberdiblub, default user agent too? |
| 04:17 | <blubberdiblub> | user agent? you mean the header it sends? |
| 04:18 | <dragondon> | yeah, there are add-ons to change the useragent sent, but by your response, it seems you are. |
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| 04:18 | <blubberdiblub> | i don't use anything like that. so default user agent response, yes |
| 04:19 | <dragondon> | ugh....had to whitelist it in my flashblock...ah well, all's good now :) |
| 04:20 | <Analingus> | lets see |
| 04:20 | <Analingus> | 1 |
| 04:20 | <Analingus> | 2 |
| 04:20 | <Analingus> | 3 |
| 04:20 | <Analingus> | kicked |
| 04:20 | <Analingus> | hmm |
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| 04:21 | <blubberdiblub> | not fast enough, Analingus ;) |
| 04:21 | <Analingus> | oh |
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| 04:23 | <blubberdiblub> | Analingus, xchat and some other irc clients have built-in flood protection, so the flood kick won't kick in that easily |
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| 04:44 | <sjl> | i'm going to take a wild guess here and say no |
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| 04:44 | <snake> | ok |
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| 04:54 | <devil> | me5440: i have no idea what your kde probs are, but it works totaly fine for me (4.8.4) and regarding #debian-kde - if you hang around, someone will answer. i was jusat going to but you left. |
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| 04:59 | <daniel_> | me5440: kde on wheezy works without one crash here on old low end notebook but with desktop effects switched off |
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| 06:39 | <freeradical> | Hi I installed Blender and when I try to start it I get an error msg. |
| 06:39 | <freeradical> | relocation error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat.so.54: symbol avpriv_mjpeg_bits_dc_luminance, version LIBAVCODEC_54 not defined in file libavcodec.so.54 with link time reference |
| 06:40 | <freeradical> | Any clues what that could mean? |
| 06:40 | <freeradical> | The only thing I compile is ffmpeg from git from time to time |
| 06:40 | <freeradical> | and if I remember right there is some ffmpeg being called from Blender? Could that be the issue? |
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| 06:42 | <freeradical> | One line please ... no need to fight to help out =P |
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| 07:17 | <salvo53> | ciao |
| 07:18 | <toni_> | do you know how to calculate two complements from command line? |
| 07:18 | <toni_> | is there any program in repository? |
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| 07:21 | <salvo53> | l'ora nera |
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| 07:28 | <coelebs> | hi |
| 07:29 | <coelebs> | i installed alsa-base and alsa-utils but alsaconf doesnt seem to be present |
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| 07:33 | <freeradical> | toni_ what you mean like 2*3 ? |
| 07:34 | <freeradical> | toni_ just type python in term |
| 07:34 | <freeradical> | and then 2*848474 |
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| 07:34 | <freeradical> | toni_ then ctrl d to get out |
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| 07:35 | <freeradical> | helo ... what the * does this mean? /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat.so.54: symbol avpriv_mjpeg_bits_dc_luminance, version LIBAVCODEC_54 not defined in file libavcodec.so.54 with link time reference |
| 07:35 | <freeradical> | I am getting that when I start a program |
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| 07:37 | <freeradical> | limp di*k synergy here ... |
| 07:39 | <TobiX> | freeradical: Are you using deb-multimedia.org? |
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| 07:39 | <freeradical> | TobiX yeah I needed to compile ffmpeg with all the bells etc ... |
| 07:40 | <TobiX> | Then that is the problem |
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| 07:41 | <freeradical> | TobiX yeah that libav* thing can be a pain |
| 07:41 | <freeradical> | TobiX how do I fix this? |
| 07:41 | <TobiX> | freeradical: What do you need that libavcodec-extra-54 does not offer? |
| 07:41 | <freeradical> | TobiX let me look a little deeper one sec |
| 07:42 | <freeradical> | LIBAVCODEC_54 |
| 07:42 | <freeradical> | what in the hell is that? |
| 07:42 | <TobiX> | A library version. |
| 07:43 | <freeradical> | looking in the repos. God I hope its not sid stuff |
| 07:45 | <freeradical> | Weird am I not understanding this right? It is LIBAVCODEC_54 that is not in the path or missing right? |
| 07:45 | <freeradical> | This does not seem right. Both are _54 |
| 07:45 | <freeradical> | version LIBAVCODEC_54 not defined in file libavcodec.so.54 |
| 07:46 | <TobiX> | freeradical: You seem to have replaced /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat.so.54 with a version that is not compatible with Debian's default build |
| 07:46 | <freeradical> | =( yeah |
| 07:46 | <TobiX> | Are you using ffmpeg or libav? |
| 07:47 | <freeradical> | I compiled ffmpeg from scratch and I am sure it pulled something that broke libav |
| 07:47 | <me5440> | devil, you here?/ |
| 07:47 | <freeradical> | thing is that blender (program that wont start) also uses ffmpeg I see |
| 07:48 | <devil> | me5440: with one eye |
| 07:48 | <me5440> | :) |
| 07:48 | <TobiX> | freeradical: Why did you overwrite /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat.so.54 with the version from your ffmpeg build? |
| 07:48 | <TobiX> | Well, many programs depend on libav... |
| 07:48 | <me5440> | if kde is go great, maybe you can tell me how to add a launcher program to the panel??? I thought I'd put a terminal there but wow, what a hassle |
| 07:49 | <freeradical> | VLC is working TobiX ? Would think that would brake too? |
| 07:49 | <me5440> | the system crashed while messing with the panel so I thought I'd see if it'd crash again :) |
| 07:50 | <TobiX> | freeradical: Which VLC? From Debian or from deb-multimedia? |
| 07:50 | <devil> | me5440: mind if we change to #debian-kde? |
| 07:50 | <me5440> | ok, I'm there now |
| 07:50 | <freeradical> | The only thing on this system that is not using the debian repos is ffmpeg |
| 07:50 | <freeradical> | TobiX that I compiled from git |
| 07:51 | <freeradical> | TobiX and it works just spiffy |
| 07:51 | <TobiX> | Well, since ffmpeg and libav have diverged a bit, this is not surprising... |
| 07:52 | <freeradical> | TobiX grrr ... so what should I do? |
| 07:52 | <freeradical> | TobiX just toss ffmpeg |
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| 07:53 | <TobiX> | Again: What do you need that is not in Debian? Without knowing that, I can't give you any advise on what you should do... |
| 07:53 | <freeradical> | x11grab ffprobe and some of the other fancy things in ffmpeg |
| 07:54 | <TobiX> | I consider ffmpeg and libav two different projects by now, which regrettably share the same library names :( |
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| 07:55 | <TobiX> | freeradical: ffprobe is in libav-tools |
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| 07:56 | <freeradical> | TobiX that was a huge pluse! What about x11grab? I do all my screen casts with it in 1080p using x264. |
| 07:56 | <freeradical> | plus* |
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| 07:59 | <freeradical> | TobiX I wrote this little script to update my ffmpeg http://pastebin.com/WcbKibYi |
| 07:59 | <TobiX> | freeradical: The avconv tool from the same package can do that. It's a fork of the original ffmpeg tool with a slightly different command line |
| 08:01 | <freeradical> | TobiX nice. Looks like I will be using a pure debian conf the future. I wont even use a IW plugin unless its in there. Just that darn ffmpeg.. |
| 08:02 | <freeradical> | BTW this is what I compiled ffmpeg to do. ./configure --enable-gpl --enable-libfaac --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-nonfree --enable-postproc --enable-version3 --enable-x11grab --enable-libvpx |
| 08:02 | <freeradical> | Yeah I see the nonfree thing there =( |
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| 08:03 | <coelebs> | ok, nevermind i got it fixed :) |
| 08:03 | <freeradical> | TobiX from one thing to the next. What should I do to fix this? |
| 08:04 | <TobiX> | freeradical: faac is probably the one thing you won't get in Debian... |
| 08:04 | <freeradical> | faac? I thought that was the free aac? |
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| 08:05 | <TobiX> | "Freeware" |
| 08:05 | <freeradical> | TobiX well free as in a big we dont need your crappy aac so we made faac |
| 08:05 | <freeradical> | ? |
| 08:06 | <TobiX> | It's not only non-free, it's basically non-distributable |
| 08:06 | <freeradical> | holy crap was I wrong! |
| 08:06 | <freeradical> | Got to look into that more. Dang |
| 08:06 | <japs> | question about packaging: i have an existing changelog. dch --increment creates a new changelog instead of updating the old one. Any idea how to keep the old one? |
| 08:07 | <TobiX> | It's Nero's "look how crappy an AAC encoder can be, buy our product" stuff |
| 08:07 | <themill> | japs: -e |
| 08:07 | <freeradical> | TobiX: lol |
| 08:07 | <japs> | themill: thanks |
| 08:08 | <japs> | themill: wait, -e lets me edit manually the changelog file |
| 08:08 | <freeradical> | TobiX well Vobis it will be in the future. I quite like the combo VP8, Vorbis and webM |
| 08:08 | <japs> | i'd like to have dch do that for me, but keep the old verion changelogs |
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| 08:10 | <TobiX> | freeradical: ffmpeg has an internal aac encoder, but it is experimental... |
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| 08:11 | <TobiX> | freeradical: And installing libavcodec-extra-54 gives you Android's AAC encoder |
| 08:11 | <TobiX> | freeradical: Rationale on the FAAC licence: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/faac/+bug/374900 |
| 08:12 | <themill> | japs: I'm not sure what you mean that's not dch -i or dch -e. |
| 08:12 | <freeradical> | TobiX hmmm I like the Android thing. Just got a S3 and have been coding a bit on it. |
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| 08:14 | <japs> | themill: i thought that dch -i would add the template for a new version at the head of the file. i guess i mistaken the purpose of dch |
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| 08:16 | <freeradical> | TobiX wow that was bad. No more faac for me ... I mean if Ubuntu jumps on it its really not LGPL. So what lib should I use for ie -acodec libfaac -ab 128k -ac 2 |
| 08:16 | <freeradical> | lame is well lame |
| 08:17 | <freeradical> | that was ugly -codec:a is the new way to do it. |
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| 08:19 | <freeradical> | TobiX how should I get my sane lib back??? |
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| 08:21 | <TobiX> | freeradical: Check with "dpkg -l libavcodec*" which package should be installed and reinstall with "apt-get install --reinstall" |
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| 08:23 | <TobiX> | For AAC, you could try "aac" for ffmpeg's internal encoder or "libvo_aacenc" for the VisualOn Android AAC encoder (this needs libavcodec-extra-*) |
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| 08:24 | <freeradical> | TobiX I take it the ii is the installed versions for the dpkg -l . Thx about the aac info. Really do not want to spread "nero" trash around =) |
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| 08:25 | <freeradical> | TobiX this is a bit odd. Got both ii libavcodec53:a 7:0.10.3-dmo amd64 and ii libavcodec54:a 7:0.11.1-dmo amd64 |
| 08:25 | <freeradical> | as ii |
| 08:26 | <toni_> | freeradical |
| 08:26 | <toni_> | I mean this: |
| 08:26 | <toni_> | I give -2 |
| 08:26 | <toni_> | ang get |
| 08:26 | <toni_> | 11111110 |
| 08:27 | <TobiX> | freeradical: Uh, those are the deb-multimedia ones, those are not "sane" |
| 08:27 | <TobiX> | !dmo |
| 08:27 | <dpkg> | Unofficial Maintainers is a repository of packages not available within the official Debian repository, due to licensing restrictions or political reasons. The archive signing key is available by installing the dmo-archive-keyring package within this repository. http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ #dmo on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 08:28 | <TobiX> | Uhm. That was the wrong factoid... |
| 08:28 | <themill> | !dmm |
| 08:28 | <dpkg> | [dmm] deb-multimedia.org (formerly debian-multimedia.org) is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for legal reasons or because the packages are too poor in quality. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze>. Remember to include a "non-free" component in your sources.list lines. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>. |
| 08:29 | <TobiX> | themill: Thanks. |
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| 08:31 | <freeradical> | TobiX well then I take it I just need to remove them and then reinstall something like "Blender"? Right and remove that junky deb-multimedia.org first? |
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| 08:48 | <grammoboy> | how can I copy cron jobs configuration from one system to another? |
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| 09:06 | <grammoboy> | I can't find the file which I set with crontab -e |
| 09:07 | <grammoboy> | where is that file on my system to access it with nano? |
| 09:07 | <grammoboy> | or copy it? |
| 09:07 | <abrotman> | /var/spool/cron/ |
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| 09:08 | <babilen> | grammoboy: It is also discussed in "man 1 crontab" |
| 09:09 | <grammoboy> | babilen, yep sorry, I just saw it |
| 09:09 | <babilen> | Note: "they are not intended to be edited directly" in there too |
| 09:09 | * | grammoboy always hesitates to dive into the manpage |
| 09:09 | <babilen> | why? |
| 09:09 | <grammoboy> | its written for people who knows what they're doing |
| 09:09 | <freeradical> | looking for the bugs that need to be fixed before Wheezy comes out of freeze. Where can I find that info. Just see www.debian.org/Bugs but I am not sure that is what I am looking for |
| 09:10 | <raboof> | grammoboy: unless you read the manpage, you won't become one of those :) |
| 09:10 | <babilen> | freeradical: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 09:10 | <grammoboy> | often I need extra explanations |
| 09:10 | <grammoboy> | raboof, hi :) |
| 09:10 | <freeradical> | babilen ahh thx! |
| 09:10 | <grammoboy> | raboof, I exaggerate a bit here probably |
| 09:10 | <babilen> | grammoboy: In that case I would recommend to read the manpage and ask questions then (if you still have some) :) |
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| 09:11 | <grammoboy> | babilen, right |
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| 09:11 | <raboof> | yeah, the manpages can be a bit terse at times. still good info often :) |
| 09:13 | <freeradical> | looking at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ would it be a safe guess to say Q1-Q2 of 2013 for Wheezy? |
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| 09:14 | <freeradical> | looking at the k value I would guess Q2ish =/ |
| 09:14 | <babilen> | !tell freeradical about wheezy bet |
| 09:14 | <babilen> | freeradical: Err, that should have been "/msg dpkg wheezy pool 1" :) |
| 09:15 | <freeradical> | babilen might be the bitchX like shell I am in? |
| 09:15 | <freeradical> | nahh |
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| 09:17 | <freeradical> | sry ... got to admit I am love'n this weechat Once used bitchx then irssi and now this weechat. This is the best of the lot imho. |
| 09:18 | <abrotman> | no ircii? |
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| 09:21 | <freeradical> | abrotman think hat was a little before my time. Like from the time Tron 1 came out. J/K was back in what ... 1980 ish? |
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| 09:22 | <freeradical> | Started with RedHat back in 95 or so ... |
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| 09:25 | <freeradical> | Might be a rumor but I heard that Debian was almost called something like BitchX when Ian got dumped by Debi ... prolly one to many long nights coding. |
| 09:25 | <abrotman> | not funny |
| 09:26 | <freeradical> | for real ... was not trying to be "funny" |
| 09:26 | <freeradical> | Just not sure if its true or not. |
| 09:27 | <freeradical> | back in 93-94 ish. |
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| 09:33 | <freeradical> | Ahh found some info on that http://www.soldierx.com/hdb/Ian-Murdock -Left the Debian project after he broke up with her girlfriend 'Debra Lynn'. |
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| 09:36 | <grammoboy> | good stories |
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| 10:14 | <me5440> | I forgot to select 'file server' when installing .... there's print server, etc.... what would be installed if it was selected? |
| 10:14 | <me5440> | I guess I have to manually install? I want to network two debian computers... |
| 10:14 | <me5440> | nfs? sshfs? samba? |
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| 10:15 | <grammoboy> | samba is for windows afaik |
| 10:15 | <grammoboy> | local network > nfs |
| 10:15 | <grammoboy> | not local > sshfs |
| 10:15 | <me5440> | grammoboy, yeah, I thought samba is for windows |
| 10:15 | <me5440> | oh |
| 10:16 | <me5440> | well, it's local... the two machines are in two adjacent rooms |
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| 10:17 | <grammoboy> | afaik you only need the standard system |
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| 10:17 | <me5440> | what's that? |
| 10:17 | <grammoboy> | and install packages which you need after that |
| 10:17 | <grammoboy> | no extra packagelists during install |
| 10:17 | <devil> | me5440: fish in dolphin wil do |
| 10:18 | <devil> | me5440: fish://user@ip |
| 10:18 | <me5440> | well, I installed xfce.... can I still do that? |
| 10:18 | <me5440> | kde was giving me problems |
| 10:18 | <devil> | i have no idea if the filemanager of xfce can hadle the protocol |
| 10:18 | <babilen> | me5440: Take a look with "tasksel --task-packages file-server" which leads to the task-file-server package |
| 10:19 | <babilen> | (on sid that is -- run it on squeeze please) |
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| 10:19 | <me5440> | my first prob with xfce.. I am starting synaptic but nothing happens :( |
| 10:19 | <devil> | me5440: apt-get always worksd |
| 10:19 | <devil> | -d |
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| 10:20 | <me5440> | when things don't work properly, I consider it a bug |
| 10:20 | <ladoga> | me5440: have you tried starting synaptic from command line? |
| 10:20 | <me5440> | synaptic |
| 10:20 | <me5440> | No protocol specified |
| 10:20 | <me5440> | (synaptic:3392): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
| 10:20 | <me5440> | just did |
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| 10:22 | <devil> | me5440: pebkac |
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| 10:23 | <me5440> | devil, what? BS! |
| 10:23 | <ladoga> | me5440: su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic |
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| 10:24 | <ladoga> | me5440: or gksudo instead of sudo |
| 10:24 | <devil> | or sux. |
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| 10:31 | <me5440> | confused |
| 10:31 | <AgentC> | Hi |
| 10:31 | <me5440> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629024 |
| 10:31 | <me5440> | no idea what to do |
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| 10:32 | <ladoga> | use gksu? |
| 10:32 | <AgentC> | short question: how to abort execution of a bash-script when a special file is present? (like /temp/i_am_still_running.sema) |
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| 10:35 | <me5440> | bash: gksudo: command not found |
| 10:35 | <cevi> | How is it possible to find out from which repository you have installed a certain package? |
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| 10:38 | <me5440> | su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic allows to open synaptic but then it's back to not working from the menu |
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| 10:39 | <me5440> | every de has an issue... I don't see how any one uses debian :-/ |
| 10:39 | <abrotman> | !tell cevi about which repo |
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| 10:40 | <cevi> | abrotman, thanks! |
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| 10:41 | <AgentC> | abrotman: how to make a fileexist within a bashscript? if (exist /temp/file) then exitbash |
| 10:42 | <Twisler> | Can someone give me the right room to ask potentially noobish questions in pls. |
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| 10:44 | <me5440> | debian is not usable... maybe as stable ... but the rest are not even worth releasing |
| 10:44 | <cevi> | AgentC, if [ -e file ]; then exit; fi |
| 10:44 | <me5440> | it's insane... every configuration has a major problem |
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| 10:44 | <abrotman> | AgentC: if [ -e /tmp/file ] then ; exit 0; fi |
| 10:45 | <AgentC> | thanx you very much! :-) |
| 10:45 | <abrotman> | AgentC: uh, move the ; after the ] |
| 10:45 | <abrotman> | Twisler: about what? |
| 10:45 | <me5440> | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/synaptic-in-wheezy%3B-is-this-a-bug-or-my-error-4175416778/ |
| 10:46 | <me5440> | lol |
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| 10:47 | <ladoga> | me5440: you don't have gksu installed. have you checked which command your xfce menu entry uses? |
| 10:48 | <ladoga> | me5440: btw. no one forces you to use debian |
| 10:48 | <abrotman> | did me5440 turn off recommends? |
| 10:48 | <me5440> | yes, someone does |
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| 10:49 | <devil> | [16:44:05] <me5440> debian is not usable... maybe as stable ... but the rest are not even worth releasing you are very bigmouthed for the little knowledge you have. that is not neccessarily the best way to make friends here. |
| 10:50 | <me5440> | ladoga, it's installed now.. how to check xfce menu for the command used? |
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| 10:51 | <ladoga> | me5440: i don't use xfce so no idea...probably someone else will chime in |
| 10:51 | <me5440> | well, the default install using any of the gui DE has some issue |
| 10:51 | <ladoga> | or you can google it |
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| 10:51 | <me5440> | I guess gnome3 was mostly just I didn't like it |
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| 10:53 | <ladoga> | me5440: maybe try "update-menus" command |
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| 10:54 | <ladoga> | me5440: whatever better not listen to me since i know nothing about xfce. |
| 10:54 | <me5440> | turn off recommends? |
| 10:55 | <ladoga> | gtg |
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| 10:56 | <abrotman> | what problem are we trying to solve now? |
| 10:56 | <me5440> | same one |
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| 10:56 | <abrotman> | .. |
| 10:56 | <devil> | me5440: use sux. |
| 10:56 | <me5440> | synaptic won't start after I enter the root password... the window box disappears |
| 10:57 | <abrotman> | tried running it from a terminal to get debugging info? |
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| 10:57 | <devil> | abrotman: he simply needs gksu or sux |
| 10:57 | <me5440> | yeah, I posted it here earlier... |
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| 10:57 | <me5440> | ok, what command with gksu? |
| 10:58 | <devil> | that is the command |
| 10:58 | <me5440> | gksu -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic ?? that? |
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| 10:59 | <abrotman> | devil: apparently it's not so simple, or not simple enough for him |
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| 10:59 | <gnugr> | me5440:try "gksu /usr/bin/synaptic" instead |
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| 11:01 | <me5440> | $ gksu /usr/bin/synaptic |
| 11:01 | <me5440> | sh: 1: /usr/bin/synaptic: not found |
| 11:01 | <devil> | dpkg -l | grep synaptic |
| 11:01 | <dpkg> | ii | grep synaptic 1.4-4.3 devil's private gamp collection |
| 11:01 | <abrotman> | it's in sbin |
| 11:02 | <me5440> | yeah, the same command with sbin grants permissions without password |
| 11:02 | <abrotman> | grants permissions? |
| 11:02 | <me5440> | well, since I'm using gksudo , I don't need to enter the password for synaptic? It just starts up |
| 11:03 | <abrotman> | this is a problem? |
| 11:03 | <me5440> | yeah, I want it to start from the menu |
| 11:04 | <abrotman> | and hwne you start it from the menu ? |
| 11:04 | <abrotman> | what happens? |
| 11:04 | <devil> | me5440: neither gparted nor synaptic will srat from the menu these days |
| 11:04 | <devil> | start, even |
| 11:04 | <abrotman> | devil: it does in gnome? |
| 11:05 | <devil> | abrotman: it does not in kde/xfce |
| 11:05 | <me5440> | ok, Authenticate page comes up... password for root: <password> -> password is entered and the window disappears... nothing else happens |
| 11:05 | <abrotman> | devil: that'd be a distinction to make :) |
| 11:05 | <devil> | yup. |
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| 11:05 | <me5440> | is this only wheezy? this is a new development that it doesn't start in the menu? |
| 11:05 | <abrotman> | hence why someone suggested you look at the command the menu uses |
| 11:06 | <devil> | babilen: it's polkit related, i forgot the details |
| 11:06 | <me5440> | i would if i knew how |
| 11:06 | <babilen> | devil: what? |
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| 11:06 | <abrotman> | heh |
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| 11:07 | <devil> | babilen: the reluctance of gparted or synaptic (maybe others) to start from menu in kde/xfce |
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| 11:07 | <devil> | babilen: ups, wrong tab :) |
| 11:07 | <babilen> | devil: I don't follow -- I haven't said anything in this channel for quite a while |
| 11:07 | <devil> | babilen: sorry |
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| 11:07 | <abrotman> | babilen: go with it, you're being sucked into the conversatoin :) |
| 11:07 | <babilen> | devil: Oh, no problem .. |
| 11:08 | <devil> | babilen: just ignore me :) |
| 11:08 | <gnugr> | devil:yes, it does with kde/sid |
| 11:08 | <devil> | gnugr: not here |
| 11:08 | <gnugr> | sry |
| 11:08 | <devil> | gnugr: at least not gparted |
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| 11:08 | <babilen> | Why would anybody want to use synaptic anyway? |
| 11:08 | <devil> | babilen: good question. |
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| 11:09 | <babilen> | KDE/XFCE is probably just trying to protect itself from malicious software. (/me will read backlog now and keep quiet) |
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| 11:10 | <me5440> | excuses |
| 11:11 | <devil> | me5440: you probably need policykit-1-gnome |
| 11:11 | <me5440> | so no one can tell me how to |
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| 11:13 | <babilen> | me5440: Lets try what devil suspects. Could you run "/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1" and try again? (make sure that the policykit-1-gnome package is installed) |
| 11:13 | <Twisler> | sorry computer froze. Could anybody point me to the channel I can ask possibly noobish questions about iptables please. |
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| 11:14 | <babilen> | Twisler: There is a #netfilter on irc.freenode.net, but you might want to read some documentation beforehand. It is also not the most active of channels |
| 11:15 | <Twisler> | ive just joined and im the only one there. |
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| 11:15 | <devil> | Twisler: on irc.freenode.net? |
| 11:16 | <isprasad> | hai |
| 11:16 | <babilen> | Twisler: On irc.freenode.net ? |
| 11:16 | <devil> | this is oftc |
| 11:16 | <Twisler> | sorry I thought you ment on this server |
| 11:16 | <isprasad> | google talk |
| 11:16 | <devil> | isprasad: do you have a debian related question? |
| 11:17 | <isprasad> | sorry |
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| 11:18 | <me5440> | babilen, as user or root? |
| 11:18 | <babilen> | me5440: as your user |
| 11:19 | <me5440> | $ /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 |
| 11:19 | <me5440> | ** (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:4150): WARNING **: Unable to register authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject |
| 11:19 | <me5440> | Cannot register authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject |
| 11:19 | <me5440> | should i pastebin ? some of the output is long |
| 11:19 | <babilen> | me5440: Please don't paste into the channel but use http://paste.debian.net -- That looks as if the daemon is already running. |
| 11:20 | <me5440> | daemon for what? |
| 11:20 | <me5440> | I won't |
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| 11:21 | <babilen> | me5440: Agent actually. Looks as if the polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 is already running which furthermore indicates that your inability to start synaptic is not related to it |
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| 11:24 | <me5440> | how do I find the menu.xml entry for synaptic? any idea? I don't see any settings in the xfce menu for editing or viewing |
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| 11:25 | <Twisler> | I just tried netfilter but I can post |
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| 11:25 | <Twisler> | can't |
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| 11:27 | <babilen> | me5440: What happens if you run "synaptic" as your user? What about "/usr/sbin/synaptic" -- Which version of Debian do you use and which Desktop environment? Does it work in Gnome? |
| 11:27 | <babilen> | (on the shell that is (the first)) |
| 11:28 | <me5440> | it worked in gnome |
| 11:28 | <me5440> | bash: synaptic: command not found |
| 11:28 | <babilen> | me5440: Which desktop environment do you use? Which version of Debian? What happens if you run "synaptic" as your user? What about "/usr/sbin/synaptic" ? |
| 11:29 | <me5440> | ohhhhhhhh |
| 11:29 | * | babilen recommends http://paste.debian.net |
| 11:29 | <devil> | Twisler: try your questions here, maybe someone knows |
| 11:29 | <babilen> | Twisler: fwiw, the channel is not +r so you should be able to speak there. |
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| 11:29 | <babilen> | But yeah, ask here (assuming you run Debian) |
| 11:29 | <me5440> | babilen, it starts but I can't make any changes |
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| 11:30 | <me5440> | Debian wheezy with xfce |
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| 11:30 | <me5440> | well, testing |
| 11:30 | <babilen> | me5440: And "gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic" ? |
| 11:30 | <me5440> | i also have kde installed (originally) and I think it worked then |
| 11:30 | <Twisler> | I just need someone willing to help me try to set up iptables on debian so that i can use it as a wireless access point. Ive tried following tutorials avaliable on line and get and ad-hoc network that doesn't have internet. |
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| 11:31 | <abrotman> | which tutorials? |
| 11:32 | <devil> | babilen: in kde the prob is gparted-pkexec |
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| 11:32 | <babilen> | devil: My next suggestion is to try /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec and to check if policykit has been initialised correctly (or is installed) |
| 11:33 | * | babilen pokes me5440 |
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| 11:33 | <Twisler> | ive tried the ubuntu one and one from google search. I need one that is confirmed to work or someone that will help me step by step. Im almost a complete noob a debian. |
| 11:33 | <devil> | babilen: starting gparted (or synaptic, which I don't have) from the menu, you get prompted fro your pw, then: gparted-pkexec can not be executed |
| 11:34 | <me5440> | http://paste.debian.net/199925/ |
| 11:34 | <abrotman> | Twisler: have you read the docs at netfilter.org about creating a router? |
| 11:34 | <babilen> | devil: Why can't gparted-pkexec not be executed? |
| 11:35 | <me5440> | maybe i should create an ubuntu/xubuntu cd to test... this is ridiculous |
| 11:35 | <devil> | that is the question. i looked into it some time ago and got side tracked |
| 11:35 | * | babilen guesses that the mechanism is the same |
| 11:35 | <babilen> | me5440: Well, try /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec |
| 11:35 | <devil> | me5440: there is no OS without bugs. |
| 11:35 | <minatu> | hi all |
| 11:35 | <babilen> | me5440: And you are running a development release after all. Have you checked for applicable bug reports? Have you reported it? |
| 11:36 | <minatu> | I really want to intergate lunar calendar into indicator-datetime, |
| 11:36 | <babilen> | me5440: And you might not have configured sudo correctly (in that it allows you to execute synaptic) |
| 11:37 | <minatu> | Someone, show me how? |
| 11:37 | <me5440> | surely this would be reported... not everyone wants to use cli all the time |
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| 11:37 | <abrotman> | surely you've checked ... |
| 11:37 | <minatu> | I've got indicator-datetime source. |
| 11:38 | <babilen> | me5440: I would approach the issue from that "Why can't I execute synaptic with gksudo?" angle. Please check your sudo configuration in "visudo" and make sure that it conforms to your assumptions. |
| 11:38 | <minatu> | but I don't know how to touch indicator interface? |
| 11:38 | <Twisler> | I cant find the ones about creating a router only about using iptable and it just tells me what it can do and all of the syntaxes for it. |
| 11:38 | <minatu> | Pls, help me. |
| 11:39 | <minatu> | I'm using U12.04 |
| 11:39 | <devil> | minatu: wrong channel |
| 11:39 | <devil> | !ubuntuirc |
| 11:39 | <dpkg> | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 11:39 | <minatu> | Show me where I can get answer? |
| 11:39 | <devil> | i did |
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| 11:40 | <devil> | /join #ubuntu |
| 11:40 | <devil> | after doing /server chat.freenode.net |
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| 11:41 | <babilen> | me5440: Furthermore: Is gksu(do) using su or sudo mode (check the /apps/gksu/sudo-mode gconf key)? Are you being asked for a password? How do you start XFCE? |
| 11:41 | <me5440> | yeah, I'll just spend another three hours checking... thanks for that |
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| 11:41 | <devil> | me5440: there is no OS without bugs. |
| 11:42 | <me5440> | I have to enter a password upon startup, right |
| 11:42 | <babilen> | me5440: If you have no interest I will not push the issue further. You might be happier with Squeeze (stable release) or another distribution. |
| 11:42 | <devil> | and you are quite unthankfull (and as far as I am concerned, not worthy of debian) |
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| 11:42 | <me5440> | *thankful... yes, I am ... you guys are great |
| 11:42 | * | abrotman watches this devolve |
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| 11:42 | <me5440> | but, it's frustrating... I just wanted up-to-date packages and this is not my computer |
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| 11:43 | <abrotman> | me5440: why are you forcing xfce? also, have you tried software-center? |
| 11:43 | <m0RrE> | Very random error today. Never seen it before. Google is no help. |
| 11:43 | <m0RrE> | dpkg-deb (subprocess): data: internal gzip read error: '<fd:0>: invalid distance too far back' |
| 11:43 | <m0RrE> | ideas? |
| 11:43 | <abrotman> | i can start synaptic from gnome, with the gksudo nonsense, works just fine |
| 11:43 | <devil> | m0RrE: never evenr seen that |
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| 11:43 | <me5440> | abrotman, because I installed the default gnome3 desktop and ran into some issues... the owner of the computer doesn't mind kde (familiar) or xfce |
| 11:44 | <abrotman> | what issues with gnome? |
| 11:44 | <me5440> | kde testing was crashing every 5 mins so I installed the xfce desktop |
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| 11:44 | <Ono-Sendai> | hi |
| 11:44 | <m0RrE> | devil: me neither. been running debian for 10 years now. can't install shit now |
| 11:45 | <me5440> | gnome was too annoying... |
| 11:45 | <abrotman> | that's not an issue .. that's a preference |
| 11:45 | <babilen> | me5440: *Which* password do you give? What does "gconftool-2 -g /apps/gksu/sudo-mode" give you? What is your sudo configuration? (could you paste /etc/sudoers?) |
| 11:45 | <abrotman> | me5440: and the system isn't for you |
| 11:45 | <me5440> | are the gnome2 forks dead? I was hoping they would continue |
| 11:45 | <devil> | me5440: you have tried the usual suspects? (apt-get -f install, dpkg --configure -a ? |
| 11:45 | <devil> | err |
| 11:46 | * | abrotman takes devil's tab key away |
| 11:46 | <m0RrE> | of course |
| 11:46 | <m0RrE> | no errors |
| 11:46 | <devil> | m0RrE: you have tried the usual suspects? (apt-get -f install, dpkg --configure -a ? |
| 11:46 | <devil> | thought so |
| 11:46 | <m0RrE> | no feedback at all |
| 11:46 | <abrotman> | m0RrE: and if you try to install packages? what's the error now? |
| 11:46 | <devil> | dpkg --configure -a just brings the prompt back |
| 11:46 | <dpkg> | devil: wish i knew |
| 11:47 | <babilen> | m0RrE: I've never seen that one before as well. Which command results in that error? Could you read "/msg dpkg bat" and provide all applicable information on http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 11:47 | <Greenjim> | hi everybody |
| 11:48 | <m0RrE> | http://paste.debian.net/199929/ |
| 11:48 | <me5440> | nothing is in /etc/subdoers |
| 11:49 | <m0RrE> | doesn't matter what package i try to install |
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| 11:49 | <babilen> | me5440: *nothing* ? |
| 11:49 | <Greenjim> | I got something strange trying to dist-upgrade my Debian testing: I got about 100 iceweasel-l10n-xx packages to add. Does somebody get the same ? |
| 11:49 | <dvs> | me5440, no "b" |
| 11:49 | <babilen> | me5440: What does "cat /etc/sudoers" give you as root? |
| 11:49 | <abrotman> | Greenjim: that's normal |
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| 11:49 | <Greenjim> | abrotman: what do you mean ? |
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| 11:50 | <me5440> | # cat /etc/subdoers |
| 11:50 | <me5440> | cat: /etc/subdoers: No such file or directory |
| 11:50 | <abrotman> | try again, but spell it correctly |
| 11:50 | <abrotman> | Greenjim: those packages are normal |
| 11:50 | <me5440> | oh shoot! |
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| 11:51 | <Greenjim> | abrotman: any explanation ? I got enough with just l10n-en and fr. |
| 11:51 | <me5440> | babilen, sorry! |
| 11:51 | <diederik> | abrotman: why is it normal? I don't have it |
| 11:51 | <abrotman> | diederik: i do |
| 11:51 | <m0RrE> | abrotman: babilen devil http://paste.debian.net/199931/ http://paste.debian.net/199929/ |
| 11:51 | <abrotman> | Greenjim: you can possibly remove the others if you don't need them |
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| 11:52 | <m0RrE> | abrotman: babilen devil and the same error goes for every other package, so not only for this particular one |
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| 11:52 | <devil> | m0RrE: google knows about it. google for 'internal gzip read error: '<fd:0>: invalid distance too far back' |
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| 11:52 | <me5440> | http://paste.debian.net/199932/ |
| 11:52 | <Greenjim> | abrotman: in stead of installing 100 packages to remove them just after, no way to avoid the install' ? |
| 11:52 | <babilen> | m0RrE: That is an interesting error. I assume that "fd:0" refers to file descriptor 0 (which is interesting in itself) ... The error is quite mysterious though. |
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| 11:53 | * | babilen tests his google-fu |
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| 11:53 | <m0RrE> | devil: i didn't get any answers from google this time. :o |
| 11:53 | <me5440> | I guess i should just install debian stable for the computer owner and hope there's no issues |
| 11:53 | <diederik> | Greenjim: what happens if you add 'Acquire::Languages "none";' to /etc/apt/apt.conf ? |
| 11:53 | <Ono-Sendai> | how I can customize the debian's installation menu'? |
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| 11:53 | <diederik> | and do aptitude update |
| 11:53 | <Greenjim> | diederik: I will try |
| 11:54 | <babilen> | me5440: What about "gconftool-2 -g /apps/gksu/sudo-mode" ? |
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| 11:54 | <devil> | m0RrE: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/dpkg-errors-948310/ might be helpful |
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| 11:55 | <m0RrE> | devil: already seen that one, didn't help me |
| 11:55 | <me5440> | babilen, as user? If so, the output is 'false' |
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| 11:55 | <babilen> | me5440: Which password do you enter? |
| 11:55 | <me5440> | btw, I have siduction installed on another machine and synaptic works fine on it.... I installed it with xfce |
| 11:56 | <me5440> | I mean, it runs from the menu as expected |
| 11:56 | <devil> | and siduction has no sudo confugured |
| 11:57 | <me5440> | babilen, huh? |
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| 11:57 | <me5440> | I just copy and pasted and output is 'false' |
| 11:57 | <devil> | m0RrE: other posts recommend a fsck and memtest |
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| 11:59 | <me5440> | there's a lot of google hits for synaptic not starting after password... |
| 11:59 | <me5440> | variations but seems like an issue effecting other installs. |
| 11:59 | <abrotman> | Greenjim: it's likely a metapacakge |
| 11:59 | <me5440> | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+question/177868 |
| 11:59 | <babilen> | me5440: Which password do you enter when you run synaptic and are asked for a password? |
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| 12:00 | <babilen> | me5440: Also when you run "gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic" from the shell? |
| 12:00 | <me5440> | oh... root password |
| 12:00 | <diederik> | abrotman and Greenjim: see bug 641967 and 680573 |
| 12:00 | <me5440> | but root and user password is the same |
| 12:01 | <babilen> | me5440: That is correct -- And you still get the error you quoted above? (about the user not being allowed to run synaptic) ? |
| 12:01 | * | abrotman doesn't really consider it a bug .. but oh well |
| 12:01 | <me5440> | oh, gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic -> it starts without requiring password input ... |
| 12:01 | <babilen> | me5440: And it works as expected? |
| 12:02 | <me5440> | yes, I guess so... I clicked 'reload' to test |
| 12:03 | <babilen> | me5440: Ok, but *not* if you start it from the menu *or* with "gksu --sudo-mode /usr/sbin/synaptic" ? |
| 12:04 | <me5440> | right... trying from the menu results in the password window and then it goes away and |
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| 12:05 | <me5440> | gksu --sudo-mode /usr/sbin/synaptic -> gives password window stating /usr etc. allows to modify but then has 'failed' message window |
| 12:05 | <me5440> | I posted that in the pastebin |
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| 12:06 | <babilen> | me5440: Ok, I would suggest to add your user to the "sudo" group and relogin. Also try "gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gksu/sudo-mode true" ... and report back. |
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| 12:09 | <me5440> | babilen, like this?: sudo adduser <username> sudo |
| 12:09 | <me5440> | ? |
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| 12:11 | <diederik> | apparently it is intended behaviour, but I didn't like it ;) |
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| 12:13 | <babilen> | me5440: exactly |
| 12:13 | <babilen> | me5440: Well, you have to run that as root (without sudo) as you are not yet capable of using sudo as your user |
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| 12:19 | <me5440> | ok, I'm going to install debian stable and just give the computer back whatever happens.... |
| 12:20 | <me5440> | thanks, babilen, for trying |
| 12:20 | <me5440> | it's a bug they don't want to fix |
| 12:21 | <babilen> | me5440: Who exactly? |
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| 12:22 | <Greenjim> | diederik: are you speaking about the fact that all the possible translations come with the fresh install' ? |
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| 12:22 | <diederik> | it seems that way |
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| 12:24 | <diederik> | and because of that, with each aptitude update it will download the pdiffs for all languages |
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| 12:25 | <ompaul> | me5440: that comment is a bit random |
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| 12:25 | <abrotman> | then ignore it .. |
| 12:26 | <Greenjim> | diederik: except if you remove Translations' files from /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 12:26 | <grammoboy> | backing up from a server and playing music from that server, should that disturb the music playing? |
| 12:26 | <diederik> | yep, that was the other suggestion by apt's maintainer |
| 12:26 | <Greenjim> | apparently, you can also run apt-get update twice to remove unwanted translations |
| 12:27 | <me5440> | ompaul, well, I assume there's a bug report someplace with all the instances of synaptic not starting from menu after password |
| 12:27 | <abrotman> | grammoboy: maybe |
| 12:27 | <Greenjim> | did you try this ? |
| 12:27 | <abrotman> | me5440: if you don't like Debian, please use something else. |
| 12:28 | <diederik> | seems so. When I noticed that it downloaded all translations, searched for it, found the bug report with the Acquire "none" fix and that solved it for me, so kept applying that |
| 12:28 | <diederik> | no didn't try that one |
| 12:29 | <me5440> | I have no idea if this is the same issue or related, but it sounds similar: |
| 12:29 | <me5440> | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general/975915 |
| 12:29 | <grammoboy> | nfs should just be un mounted by 'umount mountpoint' right? |
| 12:30 | <grammoboy> | umount /nfs/music |
| 12:30 | <grammoboy> | invalid argument |
| 12:30 | <grammoboy> | nfs not umounted properly before reboot or something |
| 12:31 | <grammoboy> | ? |
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| 12:34 | <Greenjim> | I'll try apt-get update -o Acquire::Languages=none + apt-get update to see what will happend. |
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| 12:36 | <diederik> | on this machine I don't have the 'Acquire none' fix, but also only have en translation files. I don't have translation files on my server and I do have the 'fix'. So the third variant will probably also work (what you want to try) |
| 12:36 | <Jocelyn> | hi, i'm just trying the installer for wheezy, and the documentation is not very clear on how to setup usb keys |
| 12:37 | <Jocelyn> | should i report the issue here, or is there a better way ? |
| 12:37 | <devil> | Jocelyn: what is the issue? |
| 12:37 | <Jocelyn> | on http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s03.html#id319328 , it is written "copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it." |
| 12:38 | <Jocelyn> | it is not clear if I should copy the .iso file, or its content |
| 12:38 | <Jocelyn> | (paragraph 4.3.1) |
| 12:38 | <devil> | the iso file as is |
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| 12:39 | <Jocelyn> | ah ok |
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| 12:39 | <Jocelyn> | and, would a dd if=netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb work, or must I follow these commands ? |
| 12:40 | <Greenjim> | diederik: it worked fine. First update with Languages=none removed Translations files, the second one updated my system adding the Translations' files related to the 3 lang I use. Perfect for me. Thank's for the info. |
| 12:40 | <diederik> | yw. Good to know the 3rd option works too :) |
| 12:41 | <diederik> | Jocelyn: that worked for me. You may want to add bs=1M to it (should speed it up) |
| 12:41 | <Jocelyn> | devil: hum, the netinst file is 224M, and I have only 215M free on the usb key after having done the zcat boot.img.gz |
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| 12:42 | <Jocelyn> | diederik: will try it - it looks an even easier way than the recommanded easy way |
| 12:42 | <diederik> | how big is your usb key? The dd command would override it all |
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| 12:43 | <ompaul> | Jocelyn: usually I do cat debian-whatever.iso > /dev/usbkeysnamegoeshere and that works (overwrites all and makes a 16gig a bit smaller ;-)) |
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| 12:43 | <devil> | Jocelyn: dd if=netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX will always work |
| 12:44 | <ompaul> | both of us making the assumption you are going to boot off usb |
| 12:44 | <Jocelyn> | why is it not the recommanded way in the documentation then ? |
| 12:44 | <abrotman> | it is |
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| 12:45 | <Jocelyn> | i'm looking at this page: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s03.html |
| 12:46 | <abrotman> | so it says to use zcat |
| 12:47 | <Jocelyn> | yes, of a file which is not the netinst iso file |
| 12:48 | <abrotman> | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 12:48 | <abrotman> | try using the actual released manual |
| 12:48 | <Jocelyn> | ah ok |
| 12:48 | <Jocelyn> | i was using the link from here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 12:48 | <abrotman> | who knows which version of th emanual the one on alioth is |
| 12:49 | <Greenjim> | diederik: hum, now, with only en and fr as Translations files, the dist-upgrade still want to install these 100 iceweasel packages. Not solved, then |
| 12:49 | <Jocelyn> | (on the french version: "Si vous ne lisez qu'un seul document avant l'installation, veuillez lire le guide d'installation") |
| 12:50 | <diederik> | the page on alioth is from 2010-07-16, the release from 2011-03-10 |
| 12:50 | <Jocelyn> | in english, it is the link under "Installation Howto" |
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| 12:50 | <abrotman> | Jocelyn: developers don't make the best webmasters? :) |
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| 12:51 | <diederik> | Greenjim: grrr. what does "aptitude why <iceweasel-l10n-pkg>" say? |
| 12:52 | <diederik> | where <iceweasel-l10n-pkg> is one of those translation pkgs |
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| 12:53 | <themill> | use no-recommends for this upgrade. /msg dpkg apt-recommends |
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| 12:54 | <diederik> | looks like themill is right: "gnome Recommends iceweasel-l10n-all" |
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| 12:55 | <sara> | hello |
| 12:55 | <Greenjim> | gnome Recommande iceweasel-l10n-all |
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| 12:55 | <sara> | olaa |
| 12:55 | <sara> | como estais? |
| 12:55 | <sara> | soy de españa |
| 12:56 | <AgentC> | !es |
| 12:56 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 12:56 | <jpinx_> | sara no hablamos español por acqui ;) |
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| 12:56 | <sara> | y el español cual es? |
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| 12:58 | <jpinx_> | sara #debian-es |
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| 12:59 | <Greenjim> | diederik+themill: is it normal the upgrade of gnome recommends iceweasel-l10n-all ? |
| 13:00 | <Greenjim> | and if i use the no-recommends, what about the next upgrade ? |
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| 13:00 | <themill> | The admin's decision to not install recommended packages would be respected by future upgrades. |
| 13:01 | <diederik> | it's debatable why gnome recommends iceweasel-l10n-all, but it is normal that when you install (upgrade) gnome it installs them. |
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| 13:02 | <diederik> | it won't happen with each update (unrelated to gnome) though, if that's what you're worried about |
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| 13:02 | <themill> | gnome used to depend on epiphany-browser which installs all possible translations -- this is the same, but with a bigger package set |
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| 13:03 | <diederik> | ah ok didn't know that (I'm using kde) |
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| 13:05 | <Greenjim> | strange; first time I get this behavior since I install my laptop; and I always use gnome env. |
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| 13:06 | <xavier_> | what is best, gnome desktop or kde? |
| 13:06 | <Joah> | i prefer lxde |
| 13:06 | <Joah> | at least use xfce >_> |
| 13:07 | <diederik> | xavier_: personal preference |
| 13:07 | <Greenjim> | sorry guys, I have to stop this discussion (my kids are waiting for me); any way I'll come on this later. for sure. |
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| 13:28 | <xavier_> | someone speak spalish? |
| 13:28 | <xavier_> | spanish* |
| 13:28 | <diederik> | in #debian-es ;) |
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| 13:47 | <themill> | %wb |
| 13:47 | <dselect> | thanks, themill. It's good to be back. |
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| 14:16 | <Daaf24> | I have a question about the man pages if anyone can help. (i'm trying to learn Linux) |
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| 14:18 | <Daaf24> | Does anybody know where i can ask general linux questions about linux? Maby a different channel? |
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| 14:20 | <dnlrg> | Daaf24: what are you trying to learn? |
| 14:21 | <Daaf24> | From start to end I have a book |
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| 14:22 | <dnlrg> | could you be a bit more specific? |
| 14:22 | <Daaf24> | My question is how do i search just the man 1 pages for all subjects containing the word "password" |
| 14:22 | <dnlrg> | no idea, try man man |
| 14:23 | <Daaf24> | tried that no succes |
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| 14:23 | <nadir> | apropos is what you are looking for, i think |
| 14:24 | <nadir> | apropos - search the manual page names and descriptions |
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| 14:25 | <Daaf24> | I know apropos but that searches all the man pages I want just the info from the man 1 pages |
| 14:25 | <debdog> | a combination of find and zgrep may work as well |
| 14:25 | <Daaf24> | ok I'll try that |
| 14:25 | <debdog> | ... on /usr/share/man/man1 |
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| 14:26 | <Daaf24> | i have tried man 1 -k | grep password but that also shows all man pages |
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| 14:26 | <debdog> | if it is only one directory, no find is needed, though |
| 14:26 | <nadir> | apropos password | grep 1 |
| 14:26 | <Daaf24> | ok trying |
| 14:27 | <nadir> | just ideas... |
| 14:27 | <Daaf24> | ahhh thank you verry much!!! |
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| 14:27 | <Daaf24> | that did the trick |
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| 14:28 | <Daaf24> | Thank you nadir! Going back to study futher now |
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| 14:29 | <nadir> | pure luck. glad it worked |
| 14:29 | <Daaf24> | I was thinking about it the wrong way, I see that now. Thanks again! C U next time! |
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| 14:31 | <Daaf24> | I love the community! Hope to give back soon after i finished my study |
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| 14:47 | <mastercad> | guten abends |
| 14:47 | <mastercad> | -s |
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| 14:56 | <njo12> | helloz |
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| 15:03 | <grammoboy> | it seems my nfs server is mounted several times |
| 15:04 | <grammoboy> | when I try to umount the mntpoint I get 'invalid command' |
| 15:05 | <stephan48> | i am installing a new server for non production(home) use, is there any reason to not install wheezy already(to avoid having to upgrade later on)? |
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| 15:13 | <dodo_> | why a user would want to recompile the kernel? |
| 15:13 | <debdog> | to customise it |
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| 15:14 | <dodo_> | yes, but i think that you need to know a lot to do that or i'm wrong? |
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| 15:15 | <dodo_> | 'make menuconfig' this step is too tricky to me |
| 15:15 | <debdog> | well, there are tutorials and nconfig and xconfig are not that bad ;) |
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| 15:17 | <debdog> | you have the option to choose from gconfig, menuconfig, nconfig and xconfig |
| 15:17 | <dodo_> | is it ok if i just let the defaults? |
| 15:17 | <debdog> | yes, it is not customised then, though |
| 15:18 | <debdog> | mostly one disables a lot of unused stuff and alters a few options to fit CPU and system type |
| 15:19 | <dodo_> | do you need to have a lot of knowledge? |
| 15:19 | <debdog> | well, depends |
| 15:20 | <dodo_> | i wonder how many people in this channel have ever done a recompile |
| 15:20 | <debdog> | most of the modules do have a good explanation. you definitely need to invest some time to get used to the modules |
| 15:21 | <debdog> | if you don't think it is neccessary, then you don't need to recompile ;) |
| 15:23 | <grammoboy> | showmount |
| 15:23 | <grammoboy> | can't get address for /nfs/music |
| 15:23 | <debdog> | if you have some interest on linux' and its modules, it is worth to just look at the options using make xconfig. |
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| 15:26 | <dodo_> | sure... this semester i took a microprocessors lecture... and my teacher said that the linux kernel is very huge in lines (i already knew that), and that compile it is a hard and complex process ( i was thinking that the computer does all. so is not complex. you just do 'make'). maybe he wanted to say that "customize it or configure it" ('make xconfig') is a hard and complex step. |
| 15:27 | <dodo_> | and in that part i agree |
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| 15:27 | <dodo_> | at least for me. |
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| 16:00 | <blackfire> | c'è nessuno che sa come si usa ophcrack? |
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| 16:03 | <roughnecks> | !it |
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| 16:04 | <roughnecks> | mmm |
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| 16:09 | <ze> | hello |
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| 16:15 | <rymdskepp> | öööö |
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| 16:18 | <lnx> | /clear |
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| 16:21 | <ribe> | doing a business card net install of 64 bit Squeeze..... |
| 16:21 | <XReaper> | :) |
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| 16:22 | <ribe> | ant changes ? anything I need to look out for? |
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| 16:32 | <Guest1632> | hi? |
| 16:33 | <will> | hi |
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| 16:47 | <zamok> | hi, can anyone help with a grub issue? |
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| 16:48 | <simonlnu> | just ask |
| 16:48 | <zamok> | I've installed debian for a P1 on a better computer in dual boot with a first DOS partition |
| 16:49 | <zamok> | when I moved the HD back to the P1, GRUB can't find the HD |
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| 16:49 | <zamok> | I think it's b/c on the install computer the HD was second to the CDROM |
| 16:49 | <zamok> | or on the secondary channel |
| 16:49 | <zamok> | on the P1, the HD must be first on the primary channel |
| 16:50 | <zamok> | how do I update GRUB for that computer? |
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| 16:50 | <simonlnu> | likely the device got renamed, the uuid changed (of course), and/or the map file needs updating. running grub-install should help. and double check everything after. |
| 16:52 | <zamok> | the P1 has a fried keyboard, so once I move the HD I cannot run anything until I can connect via SSH |
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| 16:52 | <zamok> | i.e., the keyb circuitry is fried, not the keyb itself |
| 16:52 | <zamok> | I need to perform all changes on the install computer before transplant |
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| 16:55 | <filePeter> | hi |
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| 16:59 | <zamok> | GRUB error: |
| 17:00 | <zamok> | OS not found - there must be something I can do.. |
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| 17:03 | <Guest1634> | halow |
| 17:05 | <jeroen__> | Guest1634: hallo |
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| 17:05 | <Guest1634> | how are u jeroen |
| 17:05 | <jeroen__> | Guest1634: fine, what is your problem |
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| 17:07 | <peter_> | hi |
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| 17:08 | <peter_> | i wish to know how to install a network |
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| 17:08 | <jeroen__> | peter_: you have to be a bit more specific what you mean with that |
| 17:10 | <jeroen__> | peter_: nfs / samba / ftp; there are many ways to create a "network" |
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| 17:14 | <zamok> | I'm thinking to remove grub and install lilo. How to do this best? |
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| 17:15 | <zamok> | is apt-get remove grub && apt-get install lilo followed by writing a lilo.conf + lilo -v sufficient? |
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| 17:16 | <jeroen__> | zamok: can't say, but why would you wan't that? |
| 17:16 | <Greenjim> | Hi everybody |
| 17:16 | <simonlnu> | "want" |
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| 17:18 | <jeroen__> | simonlnu: yes indeed, want not wan't |
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| 17:18 | <zamok> | because I need to move the HD with debian to another computer (older) and GRUB gives an error that it can't find the OS |
| 17:18 | <zamok> | that computer has no keyb so I can't fix it on it |
| 17:19 | <Greenjim> | Three hours ago, I was discussing with diederik and themill about the install' of iceweasel-l10n-all and all the depending translation packages iceweasel-l10n-xx because gnome recommends iceweasel-l10n-all. I found this a little bit strange because, usually, an upgrade does not automatically install' recommended packages. Am I wrong/right ? |
| 17:20 | <themill> | I am led to believe that this is not the case any more (I asked about that at the time) |
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| 17:21 | <Greenjim> | themill not anymore ? You mean the automatic install ? |
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| 17:24 | <alfa> | hello everybody, I'm trying using in a virtualbox machine and I want to use openbox, I've just installed it from netinst: how could I make my mouse wheel work? |
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| 17:29 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, work for what? |
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| 17:30 | <alfa> | for scrolling pages up and down, in a text editor, in a browser, everywhere |
| 17:31 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, can you run xev please and tell us what button numbers it reports for scroll wheel up and down, respectively? |
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| 17:33 | <alfa> | blubberdiblub, xev doesn't tell me anything when I scroll wheel up and down |
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| 17:34 | <alfa> | perhaps I should install some missing packages or configure something before I could use it |
| 17:34 | <blubberdiblub> | wait a minute please, i'm trying it in virtualbox as well |
| 17:34 | <alfa> | ok thank you very much |
| 17:35 | <blubberdiblub> | works here. what's your host system? |
| 17:35 | <alfa> | linux crunchbang |
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| 17:35 | <blubberdiblub> | what does xev report there? |
| 17:36 | <alfa> | I've installed debian using netinst, without gnome and without kde, then I've just installed openbox and its dependencies |
| 17:37 | <blubberdiblub> | it's not an openbox. when even xev doesn't report the events, how can your DE or window manager make use of them? |
| 17:37 | <blubberdiblub> | *it's not an openbox problem |
| 17:37 | <blubberdiblub> | can you please test with xev on the host system |
| 17:38 | <alfa> | in my crunchbang xev tell me button 4 when I scroll up, and button 5 when I scroll down |
| 17:38 | <blubberdiblub> | okay, that's fine |
| 17:38 | <blubberdiblub> | have you installed the guest extensions in the guest system? |
| 17:38 | <alfa> | I don't think it's a openbox problem, perhaps a x11 problem or some missing configuration |
| 17:39 | <alfa> | no, I haven't |
| 17:39 | <blubberdiblub> | please try that. you may need to reboot the guest for the guest extensions to take complete effect |
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| 17:40 | <alfa> | ok I'll try that |
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| 17:40 | <blubberdiblub> | is the guest squeeze? or wheezy/sid? |
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| 17:41 | <alfa> | wheezy |
| 17:41 | <blubberdiblub> | aptitude install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11 |
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| 17:42 | <blubberdiblub> | on the guest system, obviously ;) |
| 17:43 | <alfa> | thanks, I'm trying it |
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| 17:45 | <blubberdiblub> | using the guest additions will have some other positive effects as well. like resizing the guest screen by resizing the window, seamless mode and things like that |
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| 17:46 | <alfa> | I'm rebooting it |
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| 17:47 | <themill> | !wb |
| 17:47 | <dpkg> | thanks, themill. It's good to be back. |
| 17:47 | <themill> | %die |
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| 17:47 | <mickyssimo> | biancaneve e il cacciatore |
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| 17:47 | <blubberdiblub> | !it |
| 17:47 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:49 | <alfa> | the mouse wheel still doesn't work properly, and xev doesn't tell me anything :( |
| 17:50 | <blubberdiblub> | did you install all 3 packages? |
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| 17:50 | <alfa> | yes |
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| 17:50 | <blubberdiblub> | hmm, on the guest, is your xorg.conf empty? |
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| 17:52 | <alfa> | uhm... I don't have this file |
| 17:52 | <blubberdiblub> | okay, that's good |
| 17:53 | <blubberdiblub> | can you run "grep 'Adding.*input device' /var/log/Xorg.0.log" please? |
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| 17:59 | <alfa> | there are 3 rows that refer to the mouse |
| 17:59 | <alfa> | config/udev: Adding input device ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse (/dev/input/event5) |
| 17:59 | <alfa> | XINPUT: Adding extended input device "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse" (type: MOUSE, id 10) |
| 17:59 | <alfa> | config/udev: Adding input devide ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse (/dev/input/mouse1) |
| 17:59 | <blubberdiblub> | do they say "VirtualBox USB Tablet"? |
| 17:59 | <blubberdiblub> | ah, that's the problem then |
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| 18:00 | <alfa> | oh yes there is Virtualbox USB Tablet too |
| 18:00 | <blubberdiblub> | ah, i see, the wrong one takes precedence then, i guess |
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| 18:01 | <alfa> | I understand the problem, but I don't know how to solve it :( |
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| 18:03 | <me5440> | what does the A2 mean in the Debian live images? Is it ok to download for installing? |
| 18:03 | <me5440> | I mean, to check out if it works on your hardware? |
| 18:03 | <blubberdiblub> | first, make sure that xserver-xorg-input-evdev is installed. dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-evdec |
| 18:03 | <blubberdiblub> | sorry, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-evdev |
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| 18:03 | <blubberdiblub> | if the first char in the line is an "i", it's installed |
| 18:03 | <blubberdiblub> | if it's not "i" or if there's no line, it's not installed |
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| 18:04 | <me5440> | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 18:04 | <me5440> | or is that better to use? |
| 18:05 | <me5440> | I want to compare stable and wheezy on this machine without going through the install at first so.. |
| 18:05 | <me5440> | http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/current-next/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 18:05 | <me5440> | is that a valid test? |
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| 18:05 | <alfa> | blubberdiblub, I'm using synaptic to check it ;-) yes, this package is installed |
| 18:06 | <streuner__> | me5440: you should ask you what you expect from Debian |
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| 18:06 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, okay, can you try to remove the package xserver-xorg-input-mouse? please make sure it doesn't want you to remove xserver-xorg-input-evdev as well in the process |
| 18:07 | <me5440> | streuner__, for now, I just want to see if it runs without a snag right away |
| 18:07 | <alfa> | blubberdiblub, ok, I'm trying... should I reboot after that? |
| 18:07 | <streuner__> | me5440: just tryknoppix or/and grml, they are based of Debian... |
| 18:08 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, evdev is the modern way for xorg to get mouse and keyboard input. well, it suffices to restart X. but rebooting works, too, of course |
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| 18:08 | <me5440> | grml? |
| 18:08 | <streuner__> | dpkg, grml |
| 18:08 | <dpkg> | grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 18:11 | <me5440> | what's wrong with trying the live debian (project) ones? |
| 18:11 | <alfa> | blubberdiblub, it still doesn't work, and I have the same messages I had before |
| 18:11 | <me5440> | not a good test? |
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| 18:12 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, hrm :( then i don't know why it detects your mouse as ps/2 mouse and takes precedence |
| 18:12 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, you don't happen to have gpm installed and set up with mouse repeater? |
| 18:12 | <streuner__> | me5440: live CDs/DVDs are just live, D-I (debian-installers) just *install* it... |
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| 18:13 | <streuner__> | me5440: i have no idea about live-cds of debian, maybe they work too |
| 18:13 | <alfa> | I don't have gpm, do you think I should try to install it? |
| 18:13 | <claw_> | you can install using a live cd afaik |
| 18:14 | <me5440> | streuner__, ok, thanks |
| 18:14 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, no, please don't. i just thought you might have had it installed and it may cause that behaviour |
| 18:14 | <streuner__> | me5440: np |
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| 18:15 | <me5440> | claw_, talking to me? |
| 18:15 | <me5440> | today, I installed gdm3, kde and xfce with varying issues... :-/ |
| 18:16 | <me5440> | I want to lessen the time spent by just trying the livecd and see if the problem is replicated in the live media |
| 18:16 | <alfa> | blubberdiblub, thanks anyway, do you think that this is a problem with virtualbox or you think that I'll have the same problem when I'll install debian on my host machine? |
| 18:17 | <streuner__> | me5440: packages are different vs. Debian... |
| 18:17 | <me5440> | what is the problem, alpha?/ |
| 18:17 | <streuner__> | omg |
| 18:17 | <me5440> | streuner, it's all Debian? What do you mean? |
| 18:17 | <streuner__> | nah, if you talking about alpha |
| 18:18 | <me5440> | oh, the A2? |
| 18:18 | <me5440> | it's under 'release?' |
| 18:19 | <alfa> | me5440, my mouse wheel doesn't work on a debian installed in a virtualbox machine, with just openbox |
| 18:19 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, it can't possibly happen when you install it on your host machine, unless your mouse is really a PS/2 mouse. i think it has got something to do with virtualbox, but it's probably not the only perpetrator. i don't have those problems in virtualbox. my host system is debian, tho |
| 18:19 | <me5440> | alpha, the mouse device? what device is it? |
| 18:20 | <me5440> | is it usb? if you're on virtualbox, that could be an issue... you need the right extensions and if you are using the ose virtualbox, that's another consideration |
| 18:20 | <me5440> | am I right, guys? |
| 18:20 | <alfa> | me5440, no, it's a PS/2 mouse |
| 18:20 | <me5440> | oh |
| 18:21 | <blubberdiblub> | hmm, that could be a problem. it's strange anyway |
| 18:21 | <me5440> | you're trying debian via virtualbox? what is the host OS then? |
| 18:21 | <alfa> | the host is crunchbang, a debian derived distribution |
| 18:21 | <me5440> | does any other hardware work on your virtual machine? |
| 18:21 | <me5440> | and your ps/2 mouse works fine in crunchbag? |
| 18:22 | <alfa> | the mouse works normally, just the wheel doesn't work |
| 18:22 | <simonlnu> | jeroen__: np |
| 18:22 | <alfa> | yes, in crunchbang the wheel works fine |
| 18:22 | <blubberdiblub> | but the wheel works on your host system |
| 18:22 | <me5440> | the theory goes, it should work on a debian install.... :) |
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| 18:22 | <me5440> | you should do what I'm trying... getting a live cd someplace |
| 18:23 | <me5440> | it also might matter whether it's debian stable or testing.... right, guys? |
| 18:23 | <alfa> | wheezy, I've just installed from netinst |
| 18:24 | <blubberdiblub> | me5440, the mouse works in the guest, too, it's just that it's both exposed as PS/2 mouse as well as the virtualbox usb tablet, and the PS/2 mouse somehow takes precedence in his xorg |
| 18:24 | <me5440> | i had multiple freezes in kde... gnome3 was working but I don't like the design and xfce had another but different issue - not hardware related |
| 18:25 | <me5440> | ohhh |
| 18:25 | <me5440> | imho, virtualbox is a whole other animal... |
| 18:26 | <me5440> | is this the ose virtualbox or the sun? |
| 18:27 | <alfa> | the virtualbox of sun |
| 18:27 | <alfa> | I'm just trying debian in virtualbox so I could see if everything works fine, then I'll want to use it on my host machine |
| 18:28 | <alfa> | I hope that I won't have this problem on my host machine then |
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| 18:30 | <me5440> | try a live cd... I think the conditions are more applicable to an installed system than an installed virtualbox |
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| 18:31 | <me5440> | I am skeptical that it can mimic better than the live media... but, not basing it on much :) |
| 18:31 | <alfa> | on my host machine the wheel is working fine on crunchbang, I don't need a live cd to try it |
| 18:32 | <me5440> | i mean, a live debian cd |
| 18:32 | <blubberdiblub> | you could coax Xorg into using the virtualbox usb tablet explicitly, but it requires a bit work on your xorg.conf |
| 18:32 | <me5440> | why wouldn't it help? |
| 18:33 | <alfa> | me5440, where could i find a live debian cd? |
| 18:33 | <me5440> | that's what I'm trying to find out |
| 18:33 | <me5440> | but, no one is really saying so here :) |
| 18:33 | <me5440> | I just found this site: |
| 18:33 | <alfa> | blubberdiblub, where could I find this file? I don't find it |
| 18:33 | <ompaul_> | http://live.debian.net/ |
| 18:34 | <me5440> | http://live.debian.net/ |
| 18:34 | <ompaul_> | if only there was a way to search the internet |
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| 18:34 | <me5440> | but, they say the wheezy snapshots are alpha |
| 18:34 | <me5440> | what would we do if ompaul didn't intervene :-/ |
| 18:35 | <blubberdiblub> | alfa, you would have to create it. but it's a little intricate. i'll soon hit the bed, so i can't really help you there |
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| 18:36 | <alfa> | I should go to bed soon too, I'll search something more another day |
| 18:36 | <alfa> | thanks anyway blubberdiblub and me5440 |
| 18:37 | <me5440> | np... at the very least, it would offer another alternative test |
| 18:38 | <alfa> | good night everybody |
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| 19:19 | <dodo> | hi. let's say that i have a httpd running on port 80. now, i also need to have a sshd running on port 80 (it MUST be in port 80). both services need to have reachable from WAN. how do you handle this?... i was thinking about virtual hosts... can i use virtual hosts to do this? |
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| 19:21 | <k00n> | dodo: no, you cannot have two daemons bound to the same socket (IP address + port). you can, however, bind different daemons to different interfaces, but have them listen to port 80 |
| 19:21 | <TobiX> | dodo: You probably need some kind of mux in front of the httpd and ssh server to detect which protocol the client wants and switch to the right server |
| 19:22 | <dodo> | TobiX: does 'that kind of mux' exist? |
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| 19:23 | <TobiX> | dodo: A quick search found https://github.com/stealth/sshttp |
| 19:24 | <k00n> | TobiX: v. interesting! |
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| 19:25 | <TobiX> | It's pretty easy with protocols where the client has to talk first (HTTP) and more complicated (or even impossible) if the server has to send some kind of banner... |
| 19:25 | <dodo> | k00n: i was thinking in something like this: httpd on port 80 in server example.com and a virtual host called ssh.example.com... if i go to example.com:80 httpd handles it. but if go to ssh.example.com:80 sshd handles it.... but i have never worked with virtual hosts |
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| 19:27 | <dodo> | TobiX: that looks great |
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| 19:29 | <TobiX> | dodo: Well, since VirtualHosts are a HTTP feature, it won't help you here, since the deamon has to decide between SSH/HTTP before the client even gets that far... |
| 19:29 | <ompaul_> | put ssh on https port? |
| 19:29 | <k00n> | dodo: just plain ol' apache is probably not going to help you get to your goal... it would seem like you need a daemon listening on port 80 that is capable of looking at layer-7 data and decide which daemon to send it to, where the secondary daemon is bound to another interface say 127.0.01 |
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| 19:30 | <TobiX> | Another crude hack would be to exploit mod_proxy to allow a transparent CONNECT from the HTTP server to some internal SSH server ;) |
| 19:30 | <ompaul_> | if you have two ips for it externally then you can do it |
| 19:30 | <ompaul_> | bind sshd to ip.1 and http to ip.2 |
| 19:31 | * | ompaul_ sees some dydns type stuff in your near future] |
| 19:31 | <k00n> | dodo: simplest would be to use two interfaces and two A records |
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| 19:31 | <k00n> | bind httpd to one of them on port 80 and ssh to the other on port 80 |
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| 19:32 | <k00n> | set up ssh.example.com to point to the sshd ip address and example.com to the httpd address |
| 19:32 | <ompaul_> | firewall sees request for sshd ip 80 and pushes it to forwards to 22 on host |
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| 19:33 | <[machine]> | sshttp is what you need |
| 19:33 | <[machine]> | https://github.com/stealth/sshttp |
| 19:33 | <k00n> | sshttp seems cool! |
| 19:33 | <dodo> | yes...looks like sshttp is for me... only have one ip |
| 19:34 | <dodo> | thanks guys |
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| 20:22 | <squeezeguy1> | hi people |
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| 20:25 | <squeezeguy1> | after installing ffmpeg from deb.multimedia.org vlc gives sound but no image, while gnome video player works perfectly. Soes anyone know how can I see how gvp is handling video, in order to copy that to vlc? |
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| 20:45 | <TobiX> | dpkg: tell squeezeguy1 about why not dmm |
| 20:46 | <TobiX> | So it seems we are at a point where deb-multimedia breaks Debian all the time instead of sometimes... |
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| 21:41 | <squeezeguy1> | thank you tobix, I appreciate your answer, but I had problems converting some videos to formats I was required to by third partys and deb.multimedia seemed to be the only solution. in fact it solved my problem when exporting from openshot. As I ask before, is there a way to see which conf is gnome video player using in order to replicate it in vlc? |
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| 21:42 | <lukas> | hey |
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| 21:42 | <lukas> | is anyone here |
| 21:42 | <lukas> | guess not |
| 21:43 | <lukas> | (shgh) |
| 21:43 | <lukas> | hello! |
| 21:43 | <lukas> | clear |
| 21:43 | <Jzebus> | ? |
| 21:43 | <lukas> | hello i guess |
| 21:44 | <lukas> | does any one know how to install flash player in chomium |
| 21:44 | <Jzebus> | I'm not one of the cognisenti but just ask |
| 21:45 | <Jzebus> | lukas, ikf you install it it sshold work with Chromium |
| 21:45 | <lukas> | noi mean its not installed how do i install flash |
| 21:45 | <lukas> | no tarballs i hate them |
| 21:46 | <Jzebus> | have you tried deb-multimedia? |
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| 21:46 | <lukas> | what is that im new to debian |
| 21:46 | <lukas> | but not linux |
| 21:47 | <Jzebus> | well, for non-free you need to enable the non-free repos and deb-multimedia has things like dvdcss |
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| 21:48 | <lukas> | so just apt-get insatll deb-multimedia |
| 21:48 | <Jzebus> | no, you need to add the deb-multimedia repository |
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| 21:49 | <lukas> | oh whts that command i dont usually put new resprtorys in |
| 21:49 | <alexandros_c> | lukas: are you using gnome2? |
| 21:49 | <lukas> | no xmonad |
| 21:49 | <squeezeguy1> | there are non-free repositories in the official environment. as I been told in this channel deb.multimedia is not the most reliable place |
| 21:50 | <alexandros_c> | you have software sources installed? |
| 21:50 | <squeezeguy1> | wait and I'll post how, just a minute |
| 21:50 | <Jzebus> | yo can edit /ect/apt/sources.list to contain |
| 21:50 | <lukas> | k |
| 21:51 | <Jzebus> | deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free |
| 21:51 | <Jzebus> | ..changing sid for the relevant distro |
| 21:52 | <squeezeguy1> | deb http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main |
| 21:52 | <squeezeguy1> | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates non-free main |
| 21:52 | <squeezeguy1> | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates non-free main |
| 21:52 | <squeezeguy1> | deb ftp://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates non-free main |
| 21:52 | <squeezeguy1> | deb-src ftp://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates non-free main |
| 21:52 | <lukas> | wait is that suppost to be a command when run it syas bash:deb:not found |
| 21:52 | <squeezeguy1> | those are in my sources list. sorry for my interruption |
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| 21:53 | <Jzebus> | squeezeguy1, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root and add the line I pasted |
| 21:53 | <lukas> | k |
| 21:53 | <Jzebus> | to edit the file you need to su |
| 21:54 | <lukas> | or sudo -s |
| 21:54 | <squeezeguy1> | yes, in console you type gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and it opens sources.list in gedit. I use console as superuser, thankyou. |
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| 21:55 | <lukas> | anthen apt-get install deb-multimedia |
| 21:55 | <Jzebus> | I think in Debian without changes you have to "su -" |
| 21:55 | <Jzebus> | ? |
| 21:56 | <squeezeguy1> | Now, any of you know if there is a way to see which conf is gnome video player using in order to replicate it in vlc? |
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| 21:57 | <lukas> | apt-get install deb-multimedia |
| 21:57 | <lukas> | Reading package lists... Done |
| 21:57 | <lukas> | Building dependency tree |
| 21:57 | <lukas> | Reading state information... Done |
| 21:57 | <lukas> | E: Unable to locate package deb-multimedia |
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| 21:59 | <lukas> | hey everyone check this out xmonad.com |
| 22:03 | <lukas> | ummm...........hello |
| 22:04 | <blast007> | lukas: do you have 'flashplugin-nonfree' installed? dunno if it works with chromium-browser, but worth checking. |
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| 22:04 | <lukas> | no look |
| 22:04 | <lukas> | one sec |
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| 22:04 | <lukas> | pt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 22:04 | <lukas> | Reading package lists... Done |
| 22:04 | <lukas> | Building dependency tree |
| 22:04 | <lukas> | Reading state information... Done |
| 22:04 | <lukas> | Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 22:05 | <lukas> | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 22:05 | <lukas> | is only available from another source |
| 22:05 | <lukas> | E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate |
| 22:05 | <lukas> | what is the difference of ' and " |
| 22:05 | <lukas> | in python |
| 22:06 | <blast007> | if you are pasting large amount of text, you should use a pastebin and link to the paste |
| 22:06 | <lukas> | why |
| 22:06 | <blast007> | so you don't spam the channel |
| 22:06 | <lukas> | true |
| 22:07 | <blast007> | flashplugin-nonfree is in contrib, so you probably need to tweak your sources.list to include that as well |
| 22:08 | <lukas> | http://pastebin.com/Eh8Vdv8Q |
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| 22:09 | <lukas> | what url do i type in sources list |
| 22:11 | <blast007> | There's probably a few there already. You just need to modify some of the lines to include the 'contrib' repo (there's probably already some that have 'main' and maybe 'non-free' listed). But I don't have a debian system in front of me to check which. |
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| 22:11 | <lukas> | ok |
| 22:12 | <lukas> | so do i need to put a new url in or what |
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| 22:15 | <blast007> | perhaps try coming back when the channel is more active or doing some research? I can't provide a good answer for you myself, nor do I know if that package would actually help. The package description doesn't make it sound like it would work with chromium. |
| 22:16 | <lukas> | k ill fid another chanel |
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| 23:12 | <marmar> | hello |
| 23:12 | <XReaper> | hello |
| 23:12 | <marmar> | So, I'm using Debian for the first time. First linux distroo too. |
| 23:13 | <marmar> | And i'm sure, I'll have lots of questions so I'm hoping I'm in the right place. |
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| 23:16 | <marmar> | So, what filesystem should I use for a secondary drive that will just store bunch of media/doc files? I want this filesystem to be read/write by both linux and windows |
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| 23:24 | <dvs> | marmar: vfat would be a good choice |
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| 23:25 | <marmar> | okay cool, and now let's say I cut out the windows machine. if the hardrive will be only read/write to by another linux machine. Should I stick with ext3 then? |
| 23:26 | <dvs> | marmar: Are they going to share the drive at the same time? |
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| 23:28 | <marmar> | Well, my plan is to have this secondary frive on the debian machine to act as a "Backup/Sync" machine for my main Windows box (and future Linux boxes). |
| 23:29 | <dvs> | so I take that as a "yes". In that case, I'd go with samba. |
| 23:29 | <dvs> | but the underlying filesystem would be ext3 |
| 23:30 | <marmar> | Ah, okay. |
| 23:30 | <marmar> | Now, I was doing a bit of research on syncing solutions. And RSync means to be a favorite due to its incremental backup ability. |
| 23:30 | <marmar> | Does a Windows RSync client exist? |
| 23:31 | <dvs> | dunno |
| 23:31 | <marmar> | I'm sorry for so many questions - but I just installed Debian today lol. |
| 23:31 | <marmar> | Ah, okay, no problem! |
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| 23:41 | <sexyshape_> | hey, I've compiled php5-gd from source but dpkg complains about it depends on another version of php5-common, I tried with --force-depends-version, but after that apt-get -f install wants to remove the package |
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