| --- | Log | opened Mon Oct 22 00:00:47 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Mon Oct 22 2012 |
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| 00:16 | <haylo> | is there somewhere i could get the debian man pages to have as a text document on my freebsd server? i am usually on these man pages-less minimal live-builds i have been making |
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| 00:18 | <haylo> | to put on my* |
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| 01:02 | <nevyn> | haylo: please don't do that. unless you absolutely have to. |
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| 01:23 | <prime> | good morning every one. |
| 01:24 | <prime> | help me how to setup auto-complete mode in emacs |
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| 01:27 | <sathish> | My wireless lan is connected with network but internet is not working. If connected with wire its working fine. How to resolve this |
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| 01:44 | <fix> | Are you sure its actually connected? |
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| 02:14 | <shicy> | hello :) |
| 02:14 | <shicy> | does anybody know when will kde 4.9. be in Sid? |
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| 02:21 | <nimda28> | |
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| 02:34 | <pc-9> | П |
| 02:34 | <pc-9> | ВАПВА |
| 02:34 | <pc-9> | АВ |
| 02:34 | <pc-9> | П |
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| 02:35 | <weasel> | !ru |
| 02:35 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 02:36 | <pc-4_> | ну че урки? |
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| 02:37 | <mcoffin> | Whats the package for all the autohell stuff (autoconf, automake, autoscan, etc.) |
| 02:37 | <mcoffin> | libtool |
| 02:37 | <mcoffin> | !package autotools |
| 02:38 | <weasel> | mcoffin: http://packages.debian.org/ can help you search. |
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| 03:33 | <nimda28> | hi |
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| 03:39 | <gnugr> | nimda28:hi |
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| 03:58 | <nimda28> | anybody try graphic acceleration with SB Intel ?? |
| 03:58 | <anubis> | my integrated muse |
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| 03:58 | <jm_> | only IB, but yeah some people here reported success with SB too |
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| 03:59 | <nimda28> | I have acceleration but so poor |
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| 04:00 | <perlwizard> | SB ? |
| 04:00 | <nimda28> | yeah sb |
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| 04:01 | <nimda28> | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) |
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| 04:01 | <perlwizard> | ah that |
| 04:02 | <fix> | I have issues with some older intel chipsets that get otherwise acceptable hardware acceleration in windows, but the nix drivers dont even come close, no hardware acceleration at all |
| 04:02 | <fix> | these are usually crappy integrated/onboard 845 type gpus |
| 04:02 | <perlwizard> | I have IB |
| 04:02 | <perlwizard> | works well |
| 04:02 | <perlwizard> | also optimus, works too |
| 04:03 | <fix> | well thats newer than the crappy gpus im talkin about |
| 04:03 | <jm_> | yeah my brother replaced G41 with IB and there's a world of difference |
| 04:05 | <nimda28> | well , i run debian on a macbook , and i relly notice a bad performance of my card , run linux 3.6 |
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| 04:07 | <nimda28> | the last Intel graphics package that my debian accept was the Intel 2011Q4 http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q4.html |
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| 04:08 | <nimda28> | if anyone has a bechmark log to compare the preformance |
| 04:08 | <fix> | lol, nice nick btw |
| 04:08 | <jm_> | benchmark log of what? |
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| 04:09 | <nimda28> | card performance?? |
| 04:09 | <jm_> | I can tell you results of nexuiz benchmark tomorrow |
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| 04:09 | <nimda28> | ok thanks |
| 04:09 | <jm_> | hopefully I'll remember it, I know it was somewhere around 60 fps, but not the details (resolution, settings ,...) |
| 04:10 | <Kakila> | /proc/acpi/wakeup goes back to default after reboot. How to make changes permanent? Wha is there no S5 for any of my devices? |
| 04:11 | <nimda28> | echo **** > /proc/acpi/wakeup ?? |
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| 04:12 | <jm_> | Kakila: if this can be set via /sys then you can use something like sysfsutils |
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| 04:13 | <Kakila> | jm_: I am using acpitool. it works but afte reboot it goes back to the default. Do I have to modify init scripts? |
| 04:15 | <jm_> | Kakila: it doesn't look like this tool has an init script, so you'll probably need to write your own |
| 04:16 | <Kakila> | jm_: mmm... |
| 04:18 | <nimda28> | /etc/init.d/yourscript |
| 04:18 | <Kakila> | nimda28: ok, thanks... will that be run by default or I have to tell that it should be run? |
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| 04:19 | <ectospasm> | hmmm... multiarch isn't working for me... Because I have an Adobe ascm file I need to read (research for a project)... I need to install wine, and mono-complete:i386... mono-runtime:i386 depends on mono-gac:i386, but mono-gac:i386 does not appear in my repo |
| 04:19 | <fix> | <jm_> I can tell you results of nexuiz benchmark tomorrow < how the hell do you even pronounce that? does anyone know? |
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| 04:19 | <nimda28> | ? |
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| 04:19 | <fix> | nexuiz |
| 04:19 | <fix> | nexus? |
| 04:19 | <fix> | nexuls?? |
| 04:20 | <fix> | nexsuisse? |
| 04:20 | <jm_> | apt-cache show nexuiz |
| 04:20 | <fix> | I just wana know how to properly pronounce it |
| 04:20 | <jm_> | can't help with that :) |
| 04:20 | <Guest2706> | doesn't it say when it starts? it's Nexeeuss I think |
| 04:20 | <fix> | ^ lol |
| 04:20 | <fix> | Nex EEE USS? |
| 04:21 | <Guest2706> | something like that. start it and see. it says "welcome to Nexuiz" |
| 04:21 | <fix> | yes, let me just get that up and running right away on my PIII |
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| 04:24 | <Guest2706> | http://amadeus.dist.ro/tmp/welcome.ogg |
| 04:24 | <Guest2706> | that's the sameple that says how to pronounce Nexuiz |
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| 04:28 | <fix> | lol |
| 04:28 | <fix> | thanks for digging that up hehehe |
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| 04:29 | <ivo888> | Hi, how can i format sd card that i use in my fm transmitter? |
| 04:29 | <fix> | lolwut |
| 04:30 | <ivo888> | did i need first to check which filesystem it use now? |
| 04:30 | <jm_> | why do you want to format it? |
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| 04:31 | <fix> | prolly gunne need FAT32 |
| 04:31 | <fix> | most devices do |
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| 04:31 | <fix> | ^ lolwutname |
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| 04:32 | <ivo888> | because the transmeitter skipp some songs. I mean start it, play about 5-6secs and go to next |
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| 04:33 | <ivo888> | and don`t know where is the problem. When i play ths song on my computer it work fine |
| 04:33 | <fix> | might be the wrong audio format for it |
| 04:33 | <fix> | sample rate might be too high for its decoder |
| 04:34 | <fix> | try 128k mp3 and see how that plays |
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| 04:34 | <fix> | also might check your flash media to make sure it doesnt have any bad blocks |
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| 04:34 | <ivo888> | mmmm. good idea |
| 04:34 | <ivo888> | thank you very much |
| 04:34 | <ivo888> | how can i check it for bad blocks? |
| 04:34 | <fix> | mmm good question |
| 04:35 | <fix> | anyone here know of any useful nix utilities to check status of flash storage devices for bad blocks? |
| 04:38 | <Nemoder> | fsck.vfat? |
| 04:38 | <perlwizard> | fix man 8 badblocks |
| 04:38 | <ivo888> | thanks |
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| 04:38 | <fix> | ahh bad blocks found? |
| 04:40 | <ivo888> | http://paste.debian.net/202555/ |
| 04:40 | <ivo888> | may be NO |
| 04:40 | <perlwizard> | ivo888 check with badblocks |
| 04:40 | <perlwizard> | fsck doesn't really check for that |
| 04:43 | <ivo888> | thanks. it check :) |
| 04:44 | <fix> | yeah when nandflash begins to fail it gets jittery like that, so def need to confirm the condition of your storage media |
| 04:44 | <jm_> | you'll probably want to use rw mode for flash though |
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| 04:48 | <fix> | "Make sure to unmount your USB drive (!) before running fsck over it." |
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| 05:04 | <ivo888> | badblocks /dev/mmcblk0 ends. but no answer/output |
| 05:04 | <ivo888> | so, all is fine? |
| 05:04 | <perlwizard> | ivo888 pastebin your fdisk -l |
| 05:04 | <perlwizard> | also, did you use r-w mode |
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| 05:06 | <ivo888> | moment. no. no r-w mode. i don`t know how to use it.... |
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| 05:06 | <perlwizard> | I told you to read man badblocks ... it's in there... the -n switch .. |
| 05:06 | <ivo888> | http://paste.debian.net/202565/ |
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| 05:07 | <ivo888> | aaaaa. ok. moment to go back to transmitter, because i check 4 biggest songs, and all of them are at 320kbit/s |
| 05:07 | <ivo888> | to check did all ot them work |
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| 05:08 | <perlwizard> | btw, about your original problem |
| 05:08 | <perlwizard> | < ivo888> because the transmeitter skipp some songs. I mean start it, play about 5-6secs and go to next |
| 05:08 | <perlwizard> | I've seen a similar issue before. It might be a problem with a decoder |
| 05:09 | <ivo888> | may be. i go to transmitter to play again 4 biggest songs |
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| 05:29 | <ivo888> | all of the songs at 320kbit/s work. found 1 that don`t work. When i play it on my laptop it work. Where to check/search for problem? it free on 22nd second and after 15-20secs transmitter goes to next song... |
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| 05:29 | <perlwizard> | first thing to try |
| 05:30 | <perlwizard> | re-encode it |
| 05:30 | <perlwizard> | and try playing again |
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| 05:31 | <ivo888> | how to do this? |
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| 05:32 | <ivo888> | and about badblock...... maybe to use badblocks -n /dev/mmcblk0? is it nessesary to do this? |
| 05:32 | <perlwizard> | aptitude install audacity |
| 05:33 | <perlwizard> | then open the file in audacity and export it again in the same format (or some lossless format that your transmitter can read) |
| 05:33 | <ivo888> | hm. it will destroy my system :) http://paste.debian.net/202575/ |
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| 05:34 | <perlwizard> | I guess you could re-encode it with ffmpeg |
| 05:34 | <perlwizard> | or avconv |
| 05:35 | <perlwizard> | ivo888 as for badblocks -n, yeah you probably should try that after testing the re-encoded file |
| 05:35 | <perlwizard> | and maybe try to make a second physical copy of the original file on the same filesystem and see if that plays |
| 05:36 | <ivo888> | ok. i`ll do it :) |
| 05:40 | <ivo888> | with ffmpeg how can i re-encode? |
| 05:40 | <ivo888> | i also don`t know the trasmitter wich encodes support |
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| 05:43 | <perlwizard> | ivo888 I'm not entirely sure whether ffmpeg on debian can encode mp3 out of the box |
| 05:43 | <perlwizard> | iirc there were some licensing problems about that |
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| 05:44 | <perlwizard> | can you pastebin ffmpeg -codecs |
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| 05:49 | <niels> | if it isn't, there's always lame which is specifically for mp3 |
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| 05:52 | <ivo888> | http://paste.debian.net/202579/ |
| 05:52 | <ivo888> | i can work with video and audio as i read in help.... |
| 05:52 | <perlwizard> | anyway the command you're looking for would be something like |
| 05:53 | <perlwizard> | ffmpeg -i input.mp3 -acodec mp3 -ab 320k output.mp3 |
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| 05:57 | <ivo888> | thank you. i`ll try now and go to test :) |
| 05:58 | <ivo888> | Unknown encoder 'mp3' |
| 05:59 | <perlwizard> | not that unexpected |
| 05:59 | <perlwizard> | ,versions lame |
| 05:59 | <judd> | Package: lame on i386 -- lenny-multimedia: 3.98.2-0.4; squeeze-multimedia: 3.98.4-0.0; squeeze-backports: 3.98.4+repack2-3~bpo60+1; sid: 3.99.5+repack1-3; wheezy: 3.99.5+repack1-3; sid-multimedia: 1:3.99.5-dmo1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:3.99.5-dmo1 |
| 06:00 | <niels> | on squeeze, it's only in the dmo repositories |
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| 06:00 | <ivo888> | i`m on wheezy/sid |
| 06:00 | <perlwizard> | wrong channel, then. |
| 06:00 | <niels> | you should be able to install it, then |
| 06:01 | <perlwizard> | testing/sid support -> #debian-next |
| 06:01 | <ivo888> | to allow aptitude to remove all the packages when i try to install audacity |
| 06:01 | <ivo888> | and then install them again? |
| 06:01 | <perlwizard> | still wrong channel. |
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| 06:03 | <ivo888> | thank you. i go to test :) |
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| 06:06 | <metalball> | hello good people, got a question about mounting NFS share with autofs |
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| 06:06 | <metalball> | after creating everything needed, running "service autofs start" gets me errors in syslog: "Oct 22 06:04:01 office automount[21255]: create_logpri_fifo: mkfifo for /run/autofs.fifo-mnt-nasmount failed: No such file or directory |
| 06:06 | <metalball> | Oct 22 06:04:01 office automount[21255]: could not create FIFO for path /mnt/nasmount |
| 06:06 | <metalball> | Oct 22 06:04:01 office automount[21255]: dynamic log level changes not available for /mnt/nasmount" |
| 06:07 | <metalball> | any idea what might be the problem? |
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| 07:12 | <anubis> | Hi i have a cruzer usb stick. One of those who have some unerasable launch and autostart on it. It does not get recognized properly, what can i do? |
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| 07:13 | <jm_> | what is unerasable launch? rocket engines attached to it? |
| 07:14 | <perlwizard> | I've seen that on canyon sticks |
| 07:14 | <perlwizard> | basically a separate partition with some windows-only stuff |
| 07:14 | <anubis> | no some kind of virtual cd. dunno what it is exactly. windows says it is a cd-rom and dmesg says something bout sr2: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray |
| 07:14 | <anubis> | thx perlwizard. |
| 07:15 | <anubis> | fact is i cannot access the data on it |
| 07:15 | <perlwizard> | can you insert it |
| 07:15 | <perlwizard> | and pastebin fdisk -l |
| 07:15 | <perlwizard> | ? |
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| 07:16 | <jm_> | perhaps it's not even a separate partition but an entirely different device |
| 07:16 | <anubis> | http://dpaste.com/816567/ |
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| 07:16 | <niels2> | jm_, they have some special space that's protected. by the stick itself |
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| 07:17 | <jm_> | niels2: yeah I understand, I was just thinking of how it's presented to the OS |
| 07:17 | <niels2> | they can be coaxed to free that space, but i don't remember how this is done under linux |
| 07:17 | <perlwizard> | anubis well looks like it's on sdb |
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| 07:18 | <perlwizard> | have you tried mounting and inspecting /dev/sdb1-4 ? |
| 07:18 | <anubis> | lol now i see.. it HAS been recognized - but not by the device manager |
| 07:18 | <jm_> | anubis: look at what fdisk shows, it's bogus |
| 07:18 | <anubis> | y, i found it ^^ |
| 07:18 | <perlwizard> | strange output though. |
| 07:19 | <jm_> | did you try file -sk /dev/sdb? |
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| 07:20 | <anubis> | output : /dev/sdb: sticky x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP Bootloader (4.german) |
| 07:21 | <perlwizard> | huh. |
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| 07:26 | <jm_> | i'd expect a valid part. table as part of a x86 boot sector |
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| 07:27 | <niels> | let him output /proc/partitions to look for further devices, like /dev/sdc |
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| 07:28 | <anubis> | sr2 is there . |
| 07:28 | <jm_> | that's cd-rom |
| 07:29 | <anubis> | no ^^ it is the stick disguised as cdrom. my cdrom is sr0 |
| 07:29 | <niels> | that's probably the protected part of the stick |
| 07:29 | <jm_> | yeah, it's cdrom for the kernel |
| 07:29 | <niels> | you can free that with u3-tool, if you like |
| 07:29 | <anubis> | but doesnt matter i can access the data on the stick so there is no more problem =) |
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| 07:30 | <jm_> | nice, didn't even know this is standardized |
| 07:31 | <niels> | it's a nuisance anyway, standardized or not ;) |
| 07:31 | <perlwizard> | one more happy customer |
| 07:32 | <jm_> | so fs is on /dev/sdb or what? |
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| 07:32 | <perlwizard> | he's gone |
| 07:33 | <jm_> | yeah I am just thinking out loud |
| 07:33 | <niels> | yes, it must be |
| 07:33 | <perlwizard> | I'm surprised that he managed to mount anything at all |
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| 07:36 | <niels> | maybe it was some FAT variety that file doesn't recognize. isn't there something like ExFAT or so? does the file magic database contain signatures for that? |
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| 07:42 | <jm_> | looking at magic file from file 5.11 I don't see it |
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| 07:43 | <niels> | well, that may explain it |
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| 07:45 | <uxi> | so... did they fix the issue with xubuntu that duplicates device icons on desktop? |
| 07:46 | <jm_> | uxi: we wouldn't know |
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| 07:47 | <towo^work> | here is debian, not $ubuntu |
| 07:47 | <uxi> | wrong chan, sorry |
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| 07:52 | <miguel> | hola a todos. Alguien sabe algun programa como sony vegas en linux que tenga efectos de misiles y explosiones |
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| 07:53 | <samia> | Hola |
| 07:53 | <samia> | XD |
| 07:54 | <perlwizard> | !es |
| 07:54 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 08:55 | <IkkeT> | hey |
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| 08:57 | <mbruins> | hi, anyone here know a pynzb-like app (in de repos)? |
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| 09:05 | <mbruins> | Hellanzb seems to be close for people who are interessted |
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| 09:05 | <Kratos> | hola |
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| 09:06 | <Kratos> | bbbdbd |
| 09:06 | <Kratos> | heñlllo |
| 09:06 | <mbruins> | hi |
| 09:06 | <Kratos> | callateputa |
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| 09:06 | <IkkeT> | Hi =) |
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| 09:07 | <IkkeT> | hiii |
| 09:07 | <mbruins> | IkkeT: welcome back |
| 09:07 | <IkkeT> | te voy a follar ;) |
| 09:08 | <IkkeT> | tu quieres? |
| 09:08 | <IkkeT> | (LLLL) |
| 09:08 | <mbruins> | es? |
| 09:08 | <IkkeT> | fucking |
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| 09:08 | <IkkeT> | with you |
| 09:08 | <touki> | Hi |
| 09:08 | <themill> | !es-social IkkeT |
| 09:08 | <dpkg> | IkkeT: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
| 09:08 | <IkkeT> | hi |
| 09:08 | <IkkeT> | will you fucking with me¿? |
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| 09:09 | <touki> | Do someone know what is the best for installing python 2.7 -- i'm currently on squeeze. |
| 09:09 | <touki> | ? |
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| 09:12 | <themill> | touki: upgrading to wheezy or making a wheezy chroot on your squeeze machine. What in python2.7 are you actually looking for, btw? |
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| 09:13 | <touki> | libraries tesseract-orc needs 2.7 >= |
| 09:14 | <touki> | that's the safiest for you, isn't it ? I've seen diverses solutions carying the conflicts with alternatives--, but it didn't seem a very nice solution to me. |
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| 09:14 | <themill> | tesseract-ocr is in squeeze already and doesn't need python2.7 |
| 09:15 | <touki> | I meant python-tesseract |
| 09:16 | <touki> | Do you have an alternative ? Would you suggest me to write a python script using directly tesseract-ocr ? |
| 09:21 | <themill> | I'd be surprised if that source actually did need python2.7 instead of python2.6, but their svn is so full of crap it's hard to wade through it to find the important bits |
| 09:22 | <touki> | ^^ |
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| 09:53 | <TobiX> | Hi! I want to add a directory to PATH "system-wide". I can do that for login-shells by dropping files into /etc/profile.d, but most X terminals don't start shells as login shells. Would it be appropiate to put a similar snippit into /etc/X11/Xsession.d? |
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| 09:55 | <Rafael> | olá |
| 09:55 | <Rafael> | galera to com um problema com APT-GET algem pode dar um help ae? |
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| 09:55 | <Maulkin> | !br |
| 09:55 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 10:03 | <haylo> | TobiX: do you know how to add a PATH to $PATH and export it? Do you know how to add entires to .bashrc? |
| 10:03 | <haylo> | entries* |
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| 10:07 | <SynrG> | there are many ways to do this. i'm just not sure what the 'right' way is, which is why I referred TobiX here |
| 10:08 | <haylo> | yeah, i am falling into that same category of helping when i dont really know the answer. I need to stop |
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| 10:09 | <TobiX> | haylo: I certainly know how to do it for one user. I just want to know if there is a "best practice" to change it for all users... |
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| 10:09 | <SynrG> | i'm not sure /etc/profile.d/ wouldn't be sufficient ... |
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| 10:10 | <TobiX> | The best solution would be something where I just have to drop a file into a directory, so I can package it up into a .deb and deploy it everywhere :) |
| 10:10 | <SynrG> | what should happen is the X session itself should be started as a login session, and PATH should be inherited |
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| 10:10 | <SynrG> | did you try /etc/profile.d/ and it didn't work? |
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| 10:15 | <TobiX> | SynrG: Yes. bash only reads /etc/profile (and therefore /etc/profile.d) for login shells. Most X11 terminals don't start the shell as a login shell... |
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| 10:16 | <SynrG> | TobiX: so, that seems wrong to me. those should inherit PATH from the login shell that started the X session, shouldn't they? |
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| 10:16 | <safinaskar-work> | what is the right way to disable default start-up of some service? |
| 10:16 | <SynrG> | TobiX: or else if your X session isn't started from a login shell, why isn't it? |
| 10:17 | <Nemoder> | safinaskar-work: man update-rc.d |
| 10:17 | <TobiX> | SynrG: gdm, kdm, lightdm, whatever. Haven't used startx in ages ;) |
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| 10:17 | <SynrG> | and those don't start the X session via a login shell? |
| 10:17 | <safinaskar-work> | Nemoder: thanks |
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| 10:17 | <TobiX> | SynrG: Correct |
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| 10:18 | <gluesniffmonkey> | My eyeballs are being fried by a 27 inch iMac running Wheezy. |
| 10:19 | <gluesniffmonkey> | I can't adjust the brightness |
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| 10:20 | <V> | ola |
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| 10:20 | <safinaskar-work> | Nemoder: what should i do to disable service? "update-rc.d -f miredo remove" or "update-rc.d miredo stop ..."? or both? |
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| 10:21 | <gluesniffmonkey> | xrandr gives me this: http://pastebin.com/RpHRXsd3 |
| 10:22 | <gluesniffmonkey> | What does it mean by " xrandr: Need crtc to set gamma on."? |
| 10:23 | <SynrG> | TobiX: still seems wrong to me. pick on *dm and verify |
| 10:23 | <SynrG> | one* |
| 10:24 | <SynrG> | TobiX: see /etc/gdm3/Xsession, for instance. sure looks to me like it sources /etc/profile ... |
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| 10:53 | <TobiX> | SynrG: kdm does too... Hmm... Maybe I found a lightdm "bug" |
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| 10:56 | <TobiX> | SynrG: Well, /etc/X11/Xsession does not... That is... interesting... |
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| 11:09 | <abdi> | hi all |
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| 11:12 | <abdi> | I think I broke my system. I was testing if hot swap would work on my raid5 system, I removed a one of the disk but after re-attaching it did not come back. I rebooted the system but now I get the message raid 5: not enough operational devices for md1 (2/3 failed) |
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| 11:21 | <abdi> | any help or starting point? |
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| 11:23 | <notrev> | hi all, i recently updated my empathy to 3.6.0.3, and the menu is missing in the contacts list. DOes anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 11:25 | <notrev> | i was looking for a solution on the web, and it seems that they hid the menu in ubuntu, because the menu is displayed on the unity's top bar, but i'm using gnome 3.6, and that bar doesn't exist. |
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| 11:29 | <notrev> | i found the solution. the menu has moved. |
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| 11:41 | <fix> | mmmm |
| 11:41 | <rr22> | ciao |
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| 11:42 | <roughnecks> | abdi: if the raid is compromised, i think you won't be able to rebuild it, but i am no expert |
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| 11:46 | <roughnecks> | it seems you've lost two drives, not just one, in that experiment |
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| 12:37 | <aditya> | hi |
| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | yo |
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| 13:25 | <pato83> | hi, has anybody seen any mplayer with vaapi enabled repository ? I am strugling to find any and I dont want to compile anything until it is necessary. Thank you very much. I have found some for ubuntu, but that is not gonna work, there are dependencies problems. |
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| 13:44 | <sney> | pato83: possibly deb-multimedia.org |
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| 13:49 | <pato83> | sney: thanks, i have tried that and there is not support for vaapi compiled in. |
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| 13:51 | <EmleyMoor> | I've got a strange, annoying problem with the DVD writer on my desktop machine - it closes automatically, before it has opened properly, making it very difficult to use. It only does this when under the control of Debian - while the BIOS is in charge it is fine. Why would this be? |
| 13:53 | <nimda28> | dmesg ?? |
| 13:53 | <EmleyMoor> | nimda28: Nothing related shows |
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| 13:56 | <TobiX> | EmleyMoor: Do you have hal runnig? |
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| 13:56 | <EmleyMoor> | No |
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| 14:02 | <gnugr> | EmleyMoor:you mean your cd/dvd drive is behaving like that? |
| 14:02 | <EmleyMoor> | gnugr: Just the writer... not the read-only one |
| 14:03 | <gnugr> | EmleyMoor:you can use "eject -i 1" to lock it and "eject -i 0" to unlock it |
| 14:03 | <AlexLikeRock> | good mornig |
| 14:04 | <EmleyMoor> | gnugr: It's not locked, and locking it won't help it stay open |
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| 14:08 | <nimda28>lsmod | grep sr_mod |
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| 14:09 | <EmleyMoor> | http://paste.debian.net/202715/ |
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| 14:11 | <EmleyMoor> | If it was a drive fault causing this I would expect the same behaviour under the BIOS |
| 14:11 | <nimda28> | yes |
| 14:11 | <nimda28> | version of kernel?? |
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| 14:13 | <EmleyMoor> | nimda28: Problem seen under varioun kernels. Currently 3.2.23-1~bpo60+2 |
| 14:13 | <EmleyMoor> | various, even |
| 14:13 | <nimda28> | :o |
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| 14:15 | <nimda28> | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=67060&sid=70958d1628412280fd9406e5975b9a3f&start=15 ?? |
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| 14:21 | <EmleyMoor> | I'll try all of that, but am not confident I'll reach a conclusion... thanks for finding the thread, though |
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| 14:23 | <kumar> | hi |
| 14:23 | <nimda28> | :) |
| 14:24 | <kumar> | hi any one tell me how to instal wamp on ubuntu |
| 14:24 | <EmleyMoor> | !ubuntu |
| 14:24 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:24 | <retrospectacus> | !ubuntuirc kumar |
| 14:24 | <kumar> | #ubuntu |
| 14:25 | <kumar> | hi any one tell me how to instal wamp on ubuntu |
| 14:25 | <retrospectacus> | !ubuntuirc kumar |
| 14:25 | <dpkg> | kumar: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
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| 14:25 | <nimda28> | jojo apt-get install <your pack> |
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| 14:31 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... the pktsetup thing fixes my problem... |
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| 14:31 | * | EmleyMoor is probably not going to replace any of his DVD drives, unless with BD... |
| 14:32 | <nimda28> | jojo good |
| 14:32 | <nimda28> | :) |
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| 14:40 | <xubuntutest> | hmmm |
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| 14:40 | <xubuntutest> | hi there |
| 14:40 | <retrospectacus> | hello |
| 14:41 | <xubuntutest> | would you recommend xubuntu on a netbook_ |
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| 14:41 | <xubuntutest> | ? |
| 14:41 | <retrospectacus> | no, I would recommend debian |
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| 14:42 | <xubuntutest> | good answer |
| 14:42 | <daemonkeeper> | Well, what do you expect asking for $ubuntu in #debian? |
| 14:42 | <retrospectacus> | yeah it's the only answer you'll get, here in #debian |
| 14:42 | <xubuntutest> | damn overseen it |
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| 14:45 | <xubuntutest> | but if you look at a normal netbook, you have a small screen and less recources. what would zou recommend. Ive also thought about debian but I need a good displaz (and I do not like unity) |
| 14:45 | <daemonkeeper> | Debian. |
| 14:46 | <xubuntutest> | any argument why? |
| 14:46 | <daemonkeeper> | It's very easy actually: Q: I have a small netbook. What do you recommend? A: Debian, B: I have a reasonable powered desktop/notebook. What do you recommend? A: Debian. Q: I have a huge server with 2048 CPUs . What do you recommend? A: Debian |
| 14:47 | <retrospectacus> | debian is the universal operating system. It works perfectly on every system |
| 14:48 | <simonlnu> | daemonkeeper++ |
| 14:48 | <simonlnu> | retrospectacus++ |
| 14:49 | <xubuntutest> | sad there is no live version available at UNetbootin |
| 14:49 | <xubuntutest> | hmm |
| 14:49 | <daemonkeeper> | xubuntutest: Well, because Debian is like Ubuntu, just better and without Unity. Having that said, the display quality is not related to the distribution used anyway, so pick whatever makes you happy. |
| 14:49 | <jthomas> | Hello, I've installed on Deb6 the packages, 'avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-dnsconfd libnss-mdns' and i've restarted that virtualbox machine, but I cannot resolve it's IP via hostname.local . I have the same packages installed on my Sid desktop. suggestions? |
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| 14:50 | <retrospectacus> | !tell xubuntutest about live |
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| 14:53 | <xubuntutest> | hmmm okay |
| 14:53 | <xubuntutest> | thanks for your help |
| 14:53 | <xubuntutest> | cya |
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| 14:54 | <nimda28> | Can the Virtual debian ping to google.com? |
| 14:55 | <nimda28> | cat /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd ??? |
| 14:56 | <jthomas> | yes it can ping google and my desktop's IP, but not desktophostname.local |
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| 14:56 | <blubberdiblub> | i don't think avahi will work in NAT mode. use a different network mode for your VM |
| 14:56 | <jthomas> | nimda28: i can cat that file, what about it ? |
| 14:57 | <blubberdiblub> | in NAT mode, the host can't see the network of the guest |
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| 14:57 | <nimda28> | use bridge mode |
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| 14:58 | <jthomas> | do i need to edit my host OS to make that work? |
| 14:58 | <blubberdiblub> | should work fine on linux without editing. in most cases |
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| 14:59 | <jthomas> | booting into Bridge now |
| 14:59 | <jthomas> | ta-daa! thanks a ton! |
| 14:59 | <blubberdiblub> | however, preferably bridge to a wired NIC on your host. or bridge to an actual br* bridge |
| 15:00 | <jthomas> | it's to eth0 currently |
| 15:00 | <blubberdiblub> | okay, good |
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| 15:00 | <nimda28> | :) |
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| 15:04 | <jthomas> | thanks much! |
| 15:05 | <blubberdiblub> | you're welcome |
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| 15:05 | <joe_> | Hey guys |
| 15:05 | <joe_> | I have a quick question |
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| 15:06 | <joe_> | I recently updated wheezy and lost my normal gnome |
| 15:06 | <jthomas> | ask it |
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| 15:06 | <joe_> | now its classic style without mouse corners and stuff |
| 15:06 | <joe_> | Ive tried the menu in the logon screen to no avail |
| 15:06 | <joe_> | I think it updated gdm3 to version 3.4-2-2 |
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| 15:10 | <joe_> | any thoughts guys? |
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| 15:14 | <simonlnu> | gnome-session-fallback |
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| 15:17 | <joe_> | simon is that a bash command? |
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| 15:21 | <grafdiffuzor> | how can it be that "apt-get install usb-modeswitch-data" installs not all of it's contents inside /etc/usb_modeswitch.d? I can see there are more conf files in archive than there are under /etc/usb_modeswitch.d. I had to manually copy files from archive after several attempts to do it via dpkg/apt-get failed. What gives? |
| 15:21 | <grafdiffuzor> | my system is squeeze |
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| 15:33 | <dina> | hello |
| 15:33 | <dina> | i am looking for help |
| 15:34 | <dina> | to install flash on ubuntu 11.04 |
| 15:34 | <dina> | where should I go? |
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| 15:35 | <themill> | !ubuntuirc dina |
| 15:35 | <dpkg> | dina: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 15:35 | <dina> | thx |
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| 15:38 | <eddy> | hi |
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| 15:39 | <eddy> | anybody there? |
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| 15:41 | <blast007> | eddy: yes, there are people here. |
| 15:43 | <eddy> | sorry i was testing XD |
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| 15:43 | <eddy> | does have anybody ever installed bumblebee? |
| 15:44 | <perlwizard> | I hear the guy at http://suwako.nomanga.net/ has had some success |
| 15:45 | <eddy> | unfortunatly i first tried the manual installation and i faild....can u please help me? |
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| 15:46 | <eddy> | now that i did the manual installation I can't install the repository one from the site.. |
| 15:47 | <eddy> | i've installed this : http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 15:47 | <ompaul> | delete the one the way you installed it |
| 15:48 | <eddy> | how? I don't really know how to uninstall everytink |
| 15:48 | <ompaul> | sorry, thought it was a bog standard app, it is an nvidia thing |
| 15:48 | <ompaul> | no idea what it is going to interact with - no clue at all |
| 15:48 | <perlwizard> | eddy how did you install it |
| 15:49 | <perlwizard> | and what version of debian are you using |
| 15:49 | <eddy> | http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee I've did every think from that site |
| 15:50 | <eddy> | 6.06 squeeze and 3.2 backport kernel |
| 15:50 | <eddy> | 3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 |
| 15:50 | <perlwizard> | well if you installed it with `make install` you can remove it with `make uninstall` |
| 15:51 | <eddy> | ok let me try |
| 15:51 | <perlwizard> | also, I think switching to testing/sid would increase your chances of getting a working optimus |
| 15:51 | <perlwizard> | you probably should consider that. |
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| 15:52 | <eddy> | i prefer remaining in gnome.. |
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| 15:54 | <eddy> | how exactly i have to do make uninstall? isn't any way to uninstall a mass of packeges ? |
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| 15:56 | <Emanuel> | hola |
| 15:56 | <Emanuel> | hay alguien |
| 15:56 | <benji_> | hola |
| 15:56 | <Emanuel> | hola |
| 15:56 | <Emanuel> | que tal |
| 15:56 | <Emanuel> | ???????? |
| 15:56 | <benji_> | nada y usted? |
| 15:56 | <retrospectacus> | !es-social |
| 15:56 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
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| 15:57 | <Emanuel> | a mi no me llames usted que tengo 13 |
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| 15:57 | <benji_> | pues k ase aki? |
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| 15:58 | <benji_> | lol |
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| 16:00 | <eddy> | perlwizard? |
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| 16:04 | <perlwizard> | < eddy> how exactly i have to do make uninstall |
| 16:04 | <perlwizard> | the same way you did make install |
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| 16:04 | <perlwizard> | i.e. in the same directory |
| 16:05 | <perlwizard> | also, being or not being in gnome has very little to do with being or not being on stable |
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| 16:12 | <grafdiffuzor> | Hi all, it's me repeating my boring question: how can it be that "apt-get install usb-modeswitch-data" installs not all of it's contents inside /etc/usb_modeswitch.d? I can see there are more conf files in archive than there are under /etc/usb_modeswitch.d. I had to manually copy files from archive after several attempts to do it via dpkg/apt-get failed. What gives? |
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| 16:19 | <themill> | grafdiffuzor: if you delete config files, dpkg doesn't put them back for you. (I assume you're talking about squeeze not wheezy here) |
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| 16:20 | <grafdiffuzor> | themill thank you, seems to be the case, though I don't quite understand how could I delete files under /etc dir. However, dpkg --purge ... and apt-get install ... resulted in proper installation of package's contents |
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| 16:41 | <xmb> | what was the deb app to install different dists like kfreebsd and x86_64 to a sub of the fs |
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| 16:41 | <retrospectacus> | probably debootstrap |
| 16:41 | <{xmb}> | yesss |
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| 16:44 | <{xmb}> | im trying with ^c first |
| 16:45 | <{xmb}> | i wanna try this qemu sys emu, mmmm |
| 16:45 | <retrospectacus> | please don't ramble - ask if you have a question. /msg dpkg ask |
| 16:45 | <{xmb}> | hrm |
| 16:45 | <{xmb}> | merci |
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| 17:08 | <sifu_> | hi! i'm experiencing a strange behavior on debian squeeze; when I try to execute a shell script, I get permission denied, even though I used chmod +x |
| 17:09 | <sifu_> | I've never experienced this before. only this time when i installed debian on a single partition/40Gb drive |
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| 17:10 | <themill> | sifu_: is it on a partition that is marked noexec? Or have funny line endings? |
| 17:11 | <sifu_> | themill: I've installed the whole thin into one partition |
| 17:11 | <sifu_> | debian is on /=40GB drive |
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| 17:13 | <retrospectacus> | sifu_: well, http://paste.debian.net - paste ls -l yourscript; cat -e yourscript; ./yourscript |
| 17:14 | <retrospectacus> | lots of reasons it could say permission denied |
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| 17:17 | <sifu_> | retrospectacus:http://paste.debian.net/202811 |
| 17:17 | <sifu_> | retrospectacus: http://paste.debian.net/202811 |
| 17:18 | <sifu_> | i also chmod +x /firefox/firefox |
| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | ok and ls -l /opt/firefox/firefox ; file /opt/firefox/firefox |
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| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | also why not just use iceweasel |
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| 17:20 | <sifu_> | retrospectacus>: iceweasel does not go well with facebook |
| 17:21 | <retrospectacus> | works great for me. What version did you try? |
| 17:21 | <sifu_> | retrospectacus: 3.5.16 |
| 17:21 | <retrospectacus> | ...yeah that's very old |
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| 17:22 | <retrospectacus> | ,v iceweasel |
| 17:22 | <judd> | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-11~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-16; squeeze: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-18; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-18; squeeze-backports: 10.0.6esr-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 10.0.9esr-1~bpo60+1; sid: 10.0.9esr-1; wheezy: 10.0.9esr-1; |
| 17:22 | <judd> | experimental: 16.0.1-1 |
| 17:22 | <sifu_> | firefox16 only does a great job |
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| 17:23 | <sifu_> | judd: how do i install from experimental without scrawing up squeeze? |
| 17:23 | <retrospectacus> | you can get iceweasel 10,16,17, or 18 from mozilla.debian.net |
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| 17:23 | <sifu_> | retrospectacus: thanks |
| 17:23 | <retrospectacus> | sifu_: go to http://mozilla.debian.net for directions, forget experimental |
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| 17:26 | <sifu_> | which version should I choose? the release version? |
| 17:26 | <retrospectacus> | choose "release" "beta" or "aurora" for v. 16 17 or 18 respectively, then simply follow the directions |
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| 17:28 | <sifu_> | thnx |
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| 18:10 | <wanderley> | hello |
| 18:10 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
| 18:11 | <wanderley> | are you from? |
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| 18:39 | <mmgc84> | hi there! |
| 18:40 | <nimda28> | hi |
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| 18:42 | <mcoffin> | Hey I just got wheezy set up on my desktop (first time outside of a vm). Gnome3 is only using my primary monitor. How can I set up dual monitors with it? |
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| 18:42 | <kavenzman> | server -m irc.abjects.com |
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| 18:43 | <kavenzman> | hello |
| 18:43 | <nimda28> | configure that with arandr |
| 18:43 | <retrospectacus> | sup kavenzman |
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| 18:44 | <nimda28> | you should see your two monitors |
| 18:44 | <kavenzman> | just installed ubuntu some weeks ago, and now im tryin to download some packs with an irc client |
| 18:44 | <retrospectacus> | this is #debian |
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| 18:44 | <retrospectacus> | !ubuntuirc kavenzman |
| 18:44 | <dpkg> | kavenzman: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 18:45 | <kavenzman> | i couldnt manage to open an irc link from firefox with xchat... (x caht doesent connect automaticaly) |
| 18:45 | <kavenzman> | sorry, just wanted to talk |
| 18:45 | <mcc0nnell> | Yeah, I feel ya |
| 18:45 | <mcc0nnell> | Packs? |
| 18:45 | <retrospectacus> | "just talking" is not allowed here... debian support only |
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| 18:47 | <kavenzman> | ok i see |
| 18:48 | <kavenzman> | packs = archives with movies, series and stuff |
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| 18:48 | <mcc0nnell> | gotcha. thx |
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| 18:56 | <mcoffin> | nimda28: what do you mean by "configure it with arandr"? Also, how do I shut down x so I can install my nvidia drivers? |
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| 19:09 | <pato83> | mcoffin: to stop running X server, you can press Alt + F1 , then login as root and just use "/etc/init.d/login_manager stop" login manager can be gdm, kdm, xdm and so on, you have to find out |
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| 19:10 | <mcoffin> | pato83: Thanks, I figured it out. |
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| 19:50 | <chris> | hello |
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| 20:09 | <pclinux> | xubuntu |
| 20:09 | <pclinux> | #xubuntu |
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| 20:42 | <nk_> | hey |
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| 20:44 | <apostle2> | How do I check which driver a device file is calling? |
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| 21:06 | <snark> | Im trying to figure out how to setup spdif optical in and out |
| 21:07 | <snark> | and not sure if Im using the right equipment! |
| 21:08 | <snark> | *should* this setup work..... |
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| 21:09 | <snark> | onboard spdif optical out ------>usb sound card with spdif in------>line out on usb card--------line in on speakers |
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| 21:13 | <snark> | nevyn, does that audio setup look sane? |
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| 21:15 | <veg^> | hello, why does xinput detect 2 mouses http://paste.debian.net/202861/ |
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| 21:18 | <snark> | veg^, I dont think its an actual second mouse is it causeing you trouble? |
| 21:19 | <birch> | When setting up the network connection in the Debian installer, it asks for a hostname. Is this the hostname of the dhcp address or a different hostname? Thanks. |
| 21:20 | <birch> | I should clarify, it asks for a hostname if the installer has difficulty establishing the connection. It later asks for you to set the local machine's host name. I set the hostname to help establish the connection as the dhcp hostname but now I cannot establish a connection. |
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| 21:32 | <Sidicas> | Is there a mailing list for getting help when talking to upstream? |
| 21:33 | <Sidicas> | Debian mentors maybe? |
| 21:34 | <Sidicas> | I mean a mailing list for advice on dealing with upstream problems? |
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| 21:37 | <snark> | spdif help please |
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| 21:43 | <birch> | So, my Wired Network says "device not managed" in the networking icon, but I can access the internet (ping, tracertoue, iceweasel, etc). How do I get the network manager to recognize my wired (and then, wireless network)? I'm running Debian 64bit 6.06 on an Acer Aspire One Model 756 http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Acer/AO756 |
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| 21:48 | <ext5> | helllo |
| 21:49 | <ext5> | ive put the "1" in the shorewall /etc/default/shorewall but its not starting at boot |
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| 22:00 | <zykotick9> | birch: you have your device setup using /etc/network/interfaces which disables Network Manager |
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| 22:02 | <tron> | hi |
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| 22:04 | <birch> | zykotick9, what do you recommend? |
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| 22:05 | <zykotick9> | birch: you need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces and i believe, you only want "auto foo" and nothing else in there. but i don't use N-M so can't verify. |
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| 22:07 | <snark> | spdif help bump! |
| 22:08 | <birch> | zykotick9, do i then restart the network device for the change to take effect? |
| 22:09 | <zykotick9> | birch: honestly, i'd just restart teh system... modern network restarts are kinda-questionable in some ways. |
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| 22:09 | <zykotick9> | birch: but try ifdown ifup first ;) |
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| 22:15 | <birch> | zykotick9, a system restart did the trick, and now it's showing under network manager, thanks. i was hoping this system would be low maintenance but boy...was i wrong. i still have to configure wifi, sound, video...and that's just what i know so far... |
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| 22:16 | <zykotick9> | birch: once you know how to set it up, it'll be rock solid (assuming you are using squeeze. disregard for wheezy/sid) |
| 22:16 | <snark> | birch, stick with it you will love it soon! |
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| 22:17 | <mmgc84> | try to restart the services not the whole system birch |
| 22:17 | <birch> | zykotick9, snark it's squeeze, and the fourth machine i've installed debian on. But this netbook was supposedly linux friendly and it clearly is not, which makes me a bit annoyed. At least I knew what I was getting into with other systems... |
| 22:17 | <zykotick9> | mmgc84: why does neworking restart say deprecated? :(.. |
| 22:18 | <mmgc84> | I believe we use services now zykotick9 > sudo service networking restart |
| 22:19 | <zykotick9> | mmgc84: i agree |
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| 22:19 | <zykotick9> | birch: beyond just gnu/linux hardware compatibility, i honestly look for debian-stable support (does it require backports? is a consideration in my h/w purchases ;) |
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| 22:20 | <zykotick9> | mmgc84: sudo gahh |
| 22:21 | <mmgc84> | zykotick9 x) |
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| 22:23 | <nimda28> | anyone has experience with renders farms with DRQueue ?? |
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| 22:26 | <snark> | birch, yeah hardware is a pain in most linuxs |
| 22:28 | <nimda28> | DRQueu cluster, anyone ?? |
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| 22:29 | <tron> | rage |
| 22:29 | <birch> | zykotick9, snark, what's the recommended way to do a multimedia codec install? I don't have any sound control because of missing gstreamer plugins but gstreamer seems to be installed. |
| 22:30 | <zykotick9> | birch: i'm not much of a fan of gstreamer based media apps myself. IMO mplayer ftw. good luck. |
| 22:30 | <snark> | birch, not sure if its exactely what you mean but VLC player has a lot of codecs included |
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| 22:32 | <birch> | snark, i already have vlc. the issue is that volume control doesn't work. the error I get when going into sound settings is: "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." aplay -l results in aplay: device_list:235: no soundcards found... |
| 22:33 | <snark> | birch, so your sound card is not installed |
| 22:33 | <birch> | snark, it shows in lspci |
| 22:34 | <birch> | snark, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev c4) |
| 22:34 | <snark> | birch, does it show in alsamixer? |
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| 22:36 | <mmgc84> | birch, I had that problem resolved in testing |
| 22:37 | <mmgc84> | alsa shoud show the audio card |
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| 22:37 | <birch> | mmgc84, alsamixer is not installed, i'm having trouble finding an article with the package and dependencies list |
| 22:38 | <mmgc84> | what tool are u using to install birch ?? |
| 22:38 | <zykotick9> | birch: "apt-cache search alsamixer" should show alsa-utils |
| 22:39 | <mmgc84> | birch, I dont know the kind of install you made, but alsamixer has come by default in Debian i386,AMD64 |
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| 22:40 | <zykotick9> | mmgc84: i don't think it comes "by default" in my netinstalled 6 |
| 22:40 | <birch> | mmgc84, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ is what i used |
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| 22:42 | <mmgc84> | birch, what hw restricted module are you using?? |
| 22:42 | <snark> | birch, was that because of it being a netbook? |
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| 22:43 | <birch> | snark, i tried that because i had trouble getting any image to even show up on my netbook. most linux images stopped a few moments into the loading process and the screen slowly turned bright white. this image got me through the install and even configured my ethernet. mmgc84 i don't understand what you're asking. |
| 22:43 | <mmgc84> | zykotick9, I got no experience in netinstalls |
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| 22:44 | <zykotick9> | mmgc84: netinstall ftw IMO. don't select and desktop, then install what you want = 0 curft/priceless ;) |
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| 22:45 | <mmgc84> | birch, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ in this link you download restricted hw modules |
| 22:45 | <birch> | i installed alsa-utils, what command do i run? |
| 22:46 | <zykotick9> | birch: "alsamixer" |
| 22:46 | <snark> | mmgc84, it just means there not totally free or open source |
| 22:46 | <birch> | zykotick9, it just says no such file or directory |
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| 22:48 | <zykotick9> | birch: even "dpkg -S /usr/bin/alsamixer" returns alsa-utils - i have no idea then? |
| 22:48 | <mmgc84> | thanks for the info snark |
| 22:48 | <birch> | mmgc84, ah, my mistake, i pasted the wrong link. i'll have to track down the link i used then. |
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| 22:50 | <birch> | zykotick9, that returns "alsa-utils: /usr/bin/alsamixer" |
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| 22:51 | <zykotick9> | birch: i concur ;) |
| 22:51 | <snark> | birch, do this " ls /usr/bin/al/* " |
| 22:51 | <snark> | birch, do this " ls /usr/bin/al* " |
| 22:51 | <snark> | opps! |
| 22:51 | <zykotick9> | snark: better ;) |
| 22:53 | <birch> | zykotick9, snark, alsamixer and alsamixergui show up, but the command alsamixer and /usr/bin/alsamixer do not work |
| 22:53 | <snark> | cd into it first |
| 22:54 | <zykotick9> | birch: "whereis alsamixer"? |
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| 22:56 | <birch> | mmgc84, according to the usb stick i used this image: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 "Squeeze" - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20120930-15:53 |
| 22:56 | <snark> | birch, if you have installed alsa-utils it must be there! |
| 22:56 | <nevyn> | snark: there's a trick with spdif in in that it needs to be clock master. |
| 22:56 | <nevyn> | but.. it seems sane as a test setup. |
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| 22:57 | <birch> | snark, it's there, but i can't run it :-\ |
| 22:57 | <snark> | nevyn, thanks for the reply the spdif is only a cheap usb sound card and not a DAC (Im sure you knew that!) is that the issue? |
| 22:58 | <birch> | could it be i'm missing a dependency? i would like to find an article with details on how to fully install alsa but i can't seem to. |
| 22:58 | <nevyn> | snark: well it's a DAC by definition. |
| 22:58 | <nevyn> | in that spdif is a digital signal. |
| 22:58 | <nevyn> | and audio out is analog |
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| 23:00 | <snark> | yes digital optical out to digital optical in then analog out to speakers |
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| 23:01 | <snark> | onboard spdif optical out ------>usb sound card with spdif in------>line out on usb card--------line in on speakers |
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| 23:02 | <snark> | birch, maybe try a Ubuntu livecd on the netbook and use that info to help with a debian install later |
| 23:02 | <birch> | mmgc84, this is the link http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 23:02 | <birch> | snark ugh, i can't stand ubuntu anymore... |
| 23:03 | <snark> | birch, I feel your pain! but as a source of dmesg info its pure gold! |
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| 23:06 | <mmgc84> | 123 |
| 23:06 | <mmgc84> | test |
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| 23:07 | <veg^> | when I try to set different DPI nothing changes, fonts still have same sizes. tried xrandr --dpi and startx -- -dpi |
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| 23:07 | <Infiltrator> | snark: Could you elobarate what you mean by 'a source of dmesg info'? |
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| 23:09 | <snark> | Infiltrator, man dmesg :P |
| 23:09 | <trungnguyen> | how do I run *.run in ubuntu? |
| 23:10 | <Infiltrator> | !tell trungnguyen -about ubuntu |
| 23:10 | <snark> | trench, " sh ./runme.run " |
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| 23:10 | <Infiltrator> | snark: I know what dmesg is; and I can guess that you're taking a stab at ubuntu; but I don't quite get it. |
| 23:10 | <snark> | trungnguyen, " sh ./runme.run " |
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| 23:13 | <trungnguyen> | I install driver for ATI graphic card. But it said that: "One or more tools required for installation can not be found on system" and stop installation |
| 23:14 | <trungnguyen> | I have tried a few versions of the driver package |
| 23:14 | <trungnguyen> | 11.6 |
| 23:14 | <trungnguyen> | to the latest is 12.10 |
| 23:14 | <trungnguyen> | but all doesn't work |
| 23:14 | <trungnguyen> | any ideas? |
| 23:17 | <snark> | trungnguyen, this should help http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers |
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| 23:18 | <birch> | ok well i have work tomorrow so i'll give this a shot another time, thanks for the help...but somehow i think i'm going to have to try several reinstalls before this works. |
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| 23:19 | <snark> | nevyn, any pointers? |
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| 23:31 | <nevyn> | not without knowing what the problem is. |
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| 23:31 | <snark> | nevyn, theres a little switch at the side of the usb spdif in that reads digital only/digital analogue is this the clock part you mentioned |
| 23:32 | <snark> | nevyn, the problen isthe sound wont go from the spdif out to the speakers |
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| 23:34 | <nevyn> | so you need that set to digital/analog |
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| 23:42 | <snark> | nevyn, yeah thats set. So you think the actual hardware setup is fine? |
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| 23:44 | <nevyn> | so do you have any independant way to verify any bits of this? |
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| 23:45 | <nevyn> | so making that whole chain work in one hit is going to be icky cause you can't tell if you're not outputing from the main card vs a bunch of other failures in the system |
| 23:45 | <nevyn> | ie. |
| 23:45 | <nevyn> | you have |
| 23:45 | <nevyn> | soundsource outputting to spdif of a soundcard (how do you test this is working) |
| 23:45 | <snark> | nevyn, all hardware is working separately only spdif out to spdif in has never worked |
| 23:45 | <nevyn> | then you have spdif in on a soundcard |
| 23:46 | <nevyn> | (how do you test this works?) |
| 23:46 | <nevyn> | snark: I guess my question is why are you doing this it seems... convoluted |
| 23:46 | <nevyn> | and it's possible you explained this earlier and I just missed it. |
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| 23:47 | <snark> | nevyn, yes it is I know! I need non latency in sound output (that is present using HDMI ) spdif is supposed to get rid of it |
| 23:48 | <mcoffin> | Anybody know of an IRC channel that could give me help with VxWorks? I can't seem to find a ucontext.h for it |
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| 23:48 | <snark> | nevyn, I didnt want to spend 250 quid on a proper DAC! |
| 23:49 | <nevyn> | adding more stuff is unlikely to solve latency problems. |
| 23:50 | <snark> | there is no latency in spdif output |
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| 23:51 | <snark> | anyway you have helped a lot I just needed to chech that the setup was *ok* |
| 23:51 | <nevyn> | rubbish. |
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| 23:51 | <snark> | ok but its very reduced |
| 23:52 | <snark> | or supposed to be I cant say either way yet! |
| 23:53 | <nevyn> | here's the thing |
| 23:54 | <nevyn> | soundcard -spdif-> usbsoundcard -alsa-> connection -alsa-> usbsoundcard 3.5mm -> speakers is going to suck |
| 23:54 | <nevyn> | from a latency perspective. |
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| 23:55 | <nevyn> | snark: ^^ |
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| 23:57 | <snark> | even more than a HDMI cable? |
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