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00:44<sim590>really, I can't understand udev and that's frustrating. udevadm shows ATTRS keys in caps but some blogs and websites say keys have to be specified in some camel case format. I can't seemt to find the appropriate way to write my rule.
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00:45<codingquark>debconf19.debconf.org/schedule/important-dates/ say 15th Jan was the opening date for registration etc. Looks like things have changed?
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05:45<xxzz>how to disable autolock while idle in xfce
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06:17<deltam>Hi, I have tried 3 times to subscribe to debian-cd mailing list at https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/ ... Each attempt I see the confirmation web page with my email address, but I receive no email. Nothing in spam folder. First attempt was a few days ago at Sun 13 Jan 00:40:00 UTC 2019. What should I do next?
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06:26<deltam>I am reading debian.org/MailingLists now, I will try the suggestions there
06:29<deltam>problem solved :)
06:29<petn-randall>deltam: Ah nice! What was the issue?
06:31<deltam>Turns out I'm subscribed to more lists than I'm capable of remembering. I was already subscribed to that particular list (which is well explained on that web page).
06:32<deltam>The issue is that if someone tries to subscribe to a list that they're already subscribed to, it just fails silently. Apart from the explanation on that web page :)
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06:44<petn-randall>haha, that's annoying :)
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06:51<deltam>petn-randall, it would be cool if it triggered the "you are already subscribed to these Debian lists" message that I was able to activate manually as directed
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06:56<xxzz>does usbguard on Debian lockdown keyboard & mouse after installing?
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06:58<xxzz>i don't understand why the some programs are automatically started after install
06:58<xxzz>give users a chance to modify the confs
06:59<jm_>in the past there was a way to stop daemons from starting automatically, but not sure if that's still the case after switch to systemd
07:00<xxzz>I always use hidden service ssh to avoid that kind of mess and it saved me this time
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07:03<xxzz>this means systemd is more secure, it can protect the system by disabling user input on its own
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07:58<petn-randall>xxzz: As the system admin it's your choice and responsibility if programs get started or not.
08:00<xxzz>why the install backend starting a program that may possibly disable access to the system?
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08:00<petn-randall>I failed to parse that sentence. Can you reword it?
08:00<xxzz>a prompt will be nice or some kind of xdialog asking users to modify the conf and whitelist their hardware before killing it
08:01<xxzz>I am busy writing a script, will rephrase it when I finish here
08:01<petn-randall>I don't think usbguard disables USB device that are already plugged in.
08:01<petn-randall>*devices
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08:02<xxzz>it does
08:03<xxzz>try it
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08:03<xxzz>disables KVM switch and all other USB devices
08:04<petn-randall>xxzz: http://paste.debian.net/1060963/
08:04<petn-randall>It doesn't seem to be like that, at least not on my machine.
08:05<xxzz>what is your package version?
08:05<petn-randall>a KVM switch "plugs" in the USB device when you switch, so that's a completely different beast.
08:05<petn-randall>xxzz: It says in the paste.
08:05<xxzz>I can't open it right now
08:05<xxzz>let me start a VM
08:05<petn-randall>?
08:07<xxzz>browser is broken
08:08<xxzz>usbguard amd64 0.6.2+ds1-2
08:08<petn-randall>xxzz: `wget -qO - http://paste.debian.net/plain/1060963`
08:08<xxzz>got it already
08:09<xxzz>thanks
08:09<petn-randall>xxzz: What's your version then?
08:09<xxzz>same
08:10<petn-randall>xxzz: On Debian, or another OS?
08:10<xxzz>this seem to be KVM switch related then but even after direct plug-in the keyboard & mouse weren't accessible
08:10<xxzz>Deb
08:10<xxzz>Aten switch
08:11<xxzz>I will use deb-src, checkinstall and see if I can modify
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08:11<xxzz>I don't have other Linux OS
08:11<petn-randall>xxzz: usbguard doesn't even start without being properly configured.
08:12<petn-randall>xxzz: It requires /etc/usbguard/rules.conf to run, which is not shipped by the package.
08:12<petn-randall>So the package maintainer did the right thing in this case.
08:12<xxzz>no idea, I installed it and then there was no kbd & mouse
08:12<xxzz>probably
08:13<xxzz>I will replicate it in an hour
08:13<xxzz>we will see
08:14<petn-randall>xxzz: Does /etc/usbguard/rules.conf exist on your system?
08:15<xxzz>nope
08:16<xxzz>I logged in via ssh and deinstalled it
08:16<petn-randall>xxzz: Then I'd check with 'journalctl -u usbguard' how it magically started with missing config files.
08:16<xxzz>true
08:17<petn-randall>Jan 17 14:03:49 saito usbguard-daemon[31568]: [1547730229.312] (E) ERROR: Configuration: /etc/usbguard/rules.conf: usbguard::Exception
08:17<petn-randall>This is what I get one a fresh installation ^^^
08:18<xxzz>ERROR: UEventDeviceManager: present devices: enumeration timeout
08:19<xxzz>I will investigate this later in the day and report
08:19<xxzz>9musbguard.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
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08:59<Konomi>when you bug report to upstream and their answer is "what are you doing with such old nvidia drivers" and I can only reply "debian stretch doesn't have any higher version"
08:59<Konomi>packages being old in debian is a huge issue for reporting things...
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09:09<itd>did you check backports?
09:09<xxzz>my driver is 410.78
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09:10<xxzz>but I installed it the other way for tensorflow
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09:23<Konomi>itd: yeah the only nvidia driver that is in 4x is freaking experimental
09:27<petn-randall>,v nvidia-driver
09:27<judd>Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- jessie/non-free: 340.106-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.130-1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 384.130-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 390.87-4~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 390.87-6; sid/non-free: 390.87-6; experimental/non-free: 410.93-1
09:28<petn-randall>Konomi: Does upstream require a certain nvidia driver version?
09:28<Konomi>the other thing I really dislike is if I report bugs in stable they tend to get ignored
09:28<xxzz>410 actually works fine
09:28<xxzz>no issues here
09:28<Konomi>petn-randall: for an idea of why I am frustraited: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/issues/866
09:29<xxzz>iptables-persistent isn't working here
09:30<petn-randall>Konomi: Stable or bleeding edge, pick one.
09:30<petn-randall>Konomi: the newer drivers will have other, undocumented issues you'll run in to.
09:30<Konomi>here is a bug I reported way back in jessie
09:30<petn-randall>Konomi: That being said, Debian does not have strong support for non-free things, so something else to be aware of.
09:30<Konomi>where a point release broke the menu system in xfce
09:31<Konomi>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798208
09:31<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/798208 in libgtk-3-0 (open): «libgtk-3-0: after upgrade from debian 8.1 to 8.2 there is blank space before menu bar entries»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-06; last modified: 2015-10-26.
09:31<Konomi>was just left to rott
09:31<Konomi>even though I narrowd down the change that broke it
09:32<petn-randall>I wouldn't call "extra whitespace" broken, but sure. Bugs exist in Debian.
09:32<Konomi>petn-randall: it was a little mroe than extra white space it completely messed up accesesing menus
09:33<petn-randall>I don't recall such an issue, and I've been running xfce for a couple of releases now. Maybe it didn't affect everyone?
09:33<petn-randall>Not sure if there's much benefit of discussing this issue since that release is effectively unsupported now.
09:34<Konomi>https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/5828 here's another debian bug that I haven't bothered to put in the bug tracker
09:34<petn-randall>Konomi: Ok. What are you trying to achieve here?
09:35<Konomi>just venting a bit sorry
09:36<Konomi>I guess it's two things, 1 I get told by upstream a lot that my sfotware is too old and that stops me fixing anything instantly
09:36<Konomi>and 2 bug reports seem to get left to rott in debian
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09:37<petn-randall>Konomi: Nobody made a claim that Debian is bug-free. All packaging is done by volunteers, which in their limited free time decide on what bugs to work, and which to delay. Given that this is also a cosmetical issue I can imagine its not high up on the TODO list, even if you were to report it to Debian.
09:37<petn-randall>Konomi: The problem is that you're reporting bugs to upstream instead of Debian.
09:37<Konomi>I point to the earlier bug I did report to debian that was never fixed
09:37<Konomi>asnd it's not the only one
09:38<petn-randall>Konomi: I'd probably say far more than 2 bugs, as Debian has hit the 900,000 bug mark at last year.
09:39<petn-randall>Konomi: Feel free to help if you want to get bugs fixed. That's what got me into working on Debian. ;)
09:42<Konomi>eh I want to but short of kicking the maintainer to the side and releasing the package myself in the case of that libgtk3 issue what am I supposed to do?
09:42<bremner>well, you have the source.
09:42<Konomi>if I report a bug provide the regression and the specific patch that caused it and the maintainer does nothing how am I to get the fix into debian?
09:43<petn-randall>Konomi: You can always become a DD yourself.
09:44<bremner>or convince some other DD to NMU the package. But for core packages like libgtk that's going to be a challenge
09:44<Konomi>would that mean I could'vew just reverted the regression myself and released a package for the next point release?
09:44<petn-randall>Konomi: Not quite as trivial, but yes.
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09:48<olasd>Konomi: I think the main problem with gtk3 bugs is that it's a team of very few maintainers handling gnome: combined, their packages have around 5000 reported bugs
09:50<Konomi>sorry I'm not trying to be negative or put down debian I've used it for ages just frustraited
09:50<olasd>yeah, I understand that, I'm just trying to help explain it
09:51<olasd>triaging bugs on core / installed-by-default packages is a sisyphean task
09:52<petn-randall>Maybe we should think about hiring DDs to fix bugs.
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16:11<dragon12>is it a good idea to leave default username admin on vps?
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16:15<francis>dragon12: depends on a number of factors I suppose. do you use the account? is the VM susceptible to brute-force SSH login attempts? is sshd even running? etc.
16:15<francis>many variables...
16:16<sdk>Q: Is it possible to use `dpkg` to output (in a machine readable format) if a package is installed? I know about dpkg -s <package_name> but it is too verbose to be directly use in a script without cleaning the output.
16:18<francis>sdk: you could use: dpkg -l |grep ^i |awk '{print $2}' |grep "^$pkg_name "
16:18<francis>could be shrunk with a bit of effort but should work
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16:20<sdk>francis: that's exactly the kind of thing (grep + awk) I want to avoid :)
16:21<francis>another way would to just test for the existence the regular file /var/lib/dpkg/info/$pkg_name.list
16:21<francis>sdk: gotcha
16:21<francis>the above may be much simpler then, don't think there's a direct command but may be wrong
16:22<sdk>francis: oh didn't thing about that folder! Thanks. Look definitely less error prone.
16:23<francis>sdk: you might want to explorer which file (be it $pkg_name.list or one of the others) would be the best to test for, but yeah, should work okay
16:23<francis>-r
16:27<sdk>Ok. Oh and the .list file contain the path to the installed files related to that package I guess?
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16:28<francis>sdk: yep. /var/lib/dpkg/$pkg_name.* is basically a database entry for everything related to the package: installed files, their checksums and so on
16:30<sdk>Cool! Asking a question, learning 2 things for the price of 1 :)
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16:37<itd>sdk: dpkg-query -W -f='${db:Status-Status}\n' perl
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17:46<sdk>itd: Thanks :)
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17:56<sdk>I completly miss that part in the manpage. Didn't know there was a ton of informations we can retrieve with `-f=`!
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18:08<ach>has anyone the wish get gay in here?
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20:37<ach>:o
20:41<petn-randall>ach: How is that related to Debian?
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20:43<sdk>petn-randall: don't feed the troll :)
20:43<ach>i wonder my wish is not after it their are Debian for gay's, too
20:44<ach>even i prefer just women in gay
20:44<ach>>:>
20:44<ach>->
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20:46<petn-randall>ach: come back when you're sober again. And only if you have made the decision to stay ontopic. Thanks.
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21:12<xxzz>hello all
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21:22<DebianNoob>Help! Accidentally DD my NTFS storage drive trying to create an MX18 boot usb. Now have AntiX 3TB drive need to recover data and havin no luck with testdisk
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21:25<sarnold>I've had good luck with running autopsy / thesleuthkit on some variety of FAT filesystem before
21:28<francis>DebianNoob: what arguments did you pass to dd? that's an important detail and may explain why testdisk isn't having any luck
21:28<xxzz>there is a tool by ccleaner called recover something
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21:28<xxzz>try that
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21:29<xxzz>get hirenbootcd and install it after booting
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21:31<DebianNoob>recuva cannot read the partition under windows
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21:32<DebianNoob>it created two antix partitions names and one huge unallocated
21:34<xxzz>before trying anything else make a img of broken disk
21:38<xxzz>I use a script for dd that pops up a dialog window after running file file -s on disk for the partition and asks user input
21:40<xxzz>netflter-persistent isn't working
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