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05:44<Etienne0s>Hi everyone ! I'm wondering if someone can answer my question : I have 3 SSD and i wanna do a RAID5+encrypted+LVM and I read a lot of differents way to work with the /boot partition, some prefer create a RAID1 and just make /boot and not encrypt it, i found other source which said i can encrypt it, even other said than i can only create a /boot (not raid at all) in one of the disk and let free space on the other... so lik
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05:44<Etienne0s>And ofc i want it to be able to boot :) without try for hours each different solution :p
05:47<petn-randall>Etienne0s: Your message was cut off after "let free space on the other... so lik"
05:48<Etienne0s>:/ i repost it :) => so like you saw that's complicated :/
05:48<petn-randall>Etienne0s: grub nowadays can boot from dmraid raid5, and also from LUKS.
05:48<petn-randall>Etienne0s: So it's up to you how you want to do it, realliy.
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05:50<Etienne0s>Personnaly, I prefer the solution 3disk => 1 RAID5 => encrypt => LVM => / /boot /home /var SWAP, so if I understood correctly that's possible right ?
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05:50<petn-randall>Etienne0s: So all partitions are on the raid5 / LVM. Sure, should work.
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05:51<Etienne0s>or am I much stupid than i even think x)
05:51<petn-randall>Etienne0s: Are you booting via UEFI?
05:51<Etienne0s>Nice, thanks you for reply :)
05:51<Etienne0s>nah :/ can only boot on legfacy :( my host dosn't support it
05:52<petn-randall>Etienne0s: I'd just double-check if the grub version from Debian can do that, that's all.
05:53<petn-randall>Etienne0s: https://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 says it support booting from LUKS, now you just need to check if booting form raid5 works.
05:54<Etienne0s>petn-randall i just found on stackexchange : https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28443/does-grub2-support-putting-boot-on-a-raid5-partition
05:55<Etienne0s>i suppose so :)
05:56<petn-randall>Etienne0s: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html claims it can boot from "raid" devices, though it doesn't specify which types exactly. So I'd assume it will all work. :)
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05:57<Etienne0s>Yeah i'm gonna try like this and keep you update !
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05:57<petn-randall>Etienne0s: Sounds like a good idea. Good luck!
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05:59<petn-randall>Etienne0s: Only downside I can imagine is that you need to type the LUKS password twice: Once for grub, and a second time for crytpsetup in the initramfs.
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07:47<sim590>In /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf, I have /usr/local/lib set, but when I try to run one of my programs it says it can't find my lib and using LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib fixes that issue. Why? Isn't /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf supposed to configure default LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
07:50<bremner>not exactly.
07:50<jm_>did you run ldconfig after creating /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf?
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07:58<sim590>jm_: This was not created by me. A package must have installed it.
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07:58<jm_>ahh indeed, libc-bin adds that file
07:58<sim590>jm_: It seems like running sudo ldconfig fixed the problem. Weird that the package didn't do it itself... ?
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07:59<jm_>sim590: yeah that's odd, I need to run, but I would check bug reports for it and its postinst script (otherwise you can debug what loader is doing by reading about LD_DEBUG in man ld.so)
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08:08<KamiNuvini>Hi, I have a question regarding the recent systemd security exploit https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2018-16864 - is it known when a fix will be released for jessie? In https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918841 the last msg is from jan 12 but I can't find anything about when jessie is getting the security update
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08:13<Anarka>does jessie still receive security updates ?
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08:16<Anarka>KamiNuvini: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using check the debian-security-support
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08:26<KamiNuvini>Ankarka: it looks like jessie still has LTS until 2020, I checked with check-support-status command and no output which means I guess all packages still get LTS support
08:26<bremner>maybe you can check with the LTS team? they'd be doing the actual work.
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09:40<Etienne0s>Hello again petn-randall and others :), I just looked at what we talked earlier and i have some issue when installing grub :/ ( for remind/didn't see, I'm trying to install debian with this setup :3SSD => 1 RAID5 => encrypted => lvm => / /boot /home /var, and earlier I wondered if i do like this I could setup grub/boot the OS) i've tried install grub in /dev/sda1 /dev/md0 and /dev/mapper/server-boot and can't install it :
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09:45<itd>Etienne0s: your message ends with "can't install it :"
09:47<Etienne0s>itd you gonna laught that's nothing else than a sad emoji :/ but yeah you right good idea to put here what i've got : "excecuting 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed, and i have the same message for all other location :/
09:48<Etienne0s>is there a way in the debian installer to see the verbose log of grub-install ?
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09:50<itd>Etienne0s: tried other ttys? iirc on one of them (1?) are some logs. (or start a shell and try it manually.)
09:50<itd>where it = grub-install
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09:51<Etienne0s>hmmm debian installer have TTY... i didn't know that xD i'm gonna try
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10:07<Etienne0s>itd: i looked on all the TTYs 1 is the installation windows, and 2-3 are available for commands and 4 is logs, log when scanning drive for auto found where install grub it's say : grub-install :Error attempt to install to emcrypted isk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y` in file `/etc/default/grub` I'm gonna add this and see :)
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10:20<Etienne0s>itd: So yeah i added the requested 'GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y' in /etc/default/grub but it dosn't read it, still asking for GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y in /etc/default/grub I don't understand :'( (I checked 3 times for typos but nope)...
10:21<olasd>Etienne0s: you need to set that in the target grub config, so /target/etc/default/grub
10:21<Etienne0s>hmmmmm i'm gonna try thanks :)
10:21<olasd>(I guess that's what you did, but just making sure)
10:21<olasd>(ah, guess not then)
10:21<Etienne0s>nope didn't do that xD
10:22<Etienne0s>That's explain WHY /etc/default/grub is empty xD
10:22<olasd>right
10:22<olasd>:)
10:23<Etienne0s>sorry not empty didn't exist at all I created it myself
10:23<Etienne0s>x)
10:26<Etienne0s>so know i've got a lot new more error ( in less you can go up at least :p) now i've got : error: diskfilter writes are not supported :/
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10:28<Etienne0s>so now, not KNOW xD excuse me
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10:32<itd>dpkg: pastebinit
10:32<dpkg>A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg 2>&1 | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
10:33<itd>Etienne0s: Not sure if ^ that works with the installer, in case you want to share the complete output.
10:34<Etienne0s>how can i install it/run it on the installer x)
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10:35<itd>is apt-get available on tty2?
10:37<Etienne0s>nope, not apt apt-get aptitude and even dpkg..
10:38<itd>curl / wget ?
10:38<Etienne0s>wget yes but bot curl
10:38<Etienne0s>not*
10:40<Etienne0s>I tried something i keep you update
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10:47<olasd>you can just chroot in /target then do whatever you want in there
10:49<Etienne0s>Okay thanks but i think i've got it i just wait the time for it o boot
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11:37<Xinayder>where can I request an upgrade for a debian package?
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11:44<olasd>Xinayder: usually, once you've checked that there's no update in the development suite (unstable) through https://packages.debian.org/, `reportbug $package` is a good place to start
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12:47<jhutchins_wk>!installer
12:47<dpkg>The Debian installer comes in many forms (CD1, netinst, DVD), but the installer you use and the system you end up with is identical in each case. The only difference is when the packages are downloaded: if you grab the DVDs then you are downloading lots of packages that you might not need; if you download the <netinst>, then when you go to install packages using aptitude later on, they will be downloaded at that time.
12:48<jhutchins_wk>I think there's an irc channel specifically for the installer.
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14:48<keantoken>I was wondering why apt has a bunch of stuff kept back for weeks and I found this:
14:48<keantoken>http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Bug-911995-icedtea-netx-needs-Provides-icedtea-netx-common-td4407392.html
14:49<keantoken>So it seems icedtea-netx has been kept back for at least a month because someone forgot to give it correct dependencies.
14:50<keantoken>If I had done full-upgrade, apt probably would have happily sent my system through a shredder in my various attempts to get things back to normal.
14:52<bremner>not sure what upgrade you're expecting to see in stable for that package?
14:52<keantoken>I'm in Sid.
14:52<bremner>#debian-next
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15:56<jhutchins_wk>sid doesn't have any expectation of timely updates for individual packages.
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16:26<retrospectacus>sid does have an expectation to break everything.
16:28<somiaj>its been a while since I've seen sid break everything, (:
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22:36<xxzz>hello all
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23:16<user01>hi is there a resource that displays images of all the keyboard layouts so i may see which one matches a keyboard i have?
23:17<user01>I think it may be a Canadian Multilingual but they have 3 variants
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