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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-01-19

---Logopened Sat Jan 19 00:00:27 2019
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00:42<rwp>user01, 'xkeycaps' is a useful program for that and has an extensive keyboard database.
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00:43<user01>rwp, ok ill have a look, thanks
00:43<j0z>hi all, how can I install ssmtp on debian please?
00:44<rwp>user01, I can't think of any other database of keyboards with layouts to view than that one.
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00:45<rwp>j0z, "apt-get install ssmtp" will do it.
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00:45<rwp>j0z, Most of us are keyboard users and use one of apt-get, aptitude, or apt, for such things. But graphical mouse people use the synaptic graphical interface for it.
00:46<j0z>thanks a lot
00:48<user01>rwp bleh installed it and it's not letting me scroll through the list :P
00:48<rwp>It's a very old program. I think you can only pick with a click and OK it. But then it does display the keyboard layout in the other widget.
00:49<rwp>But I couldn't think of any other keyboard database...
00:50<rwp>What are you looking for? A setxkbmap option?
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01:29<user01>rwp, even just a wiki with all the keyboard layouts so i can configure my keyboard
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01:55<user01>rwp, just looking for pics of the different keyboard layouts -- i suppose otherwise id have to comb through some source code
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02:26<quantumman>Hello, does anyone know how to enable external monitor with debian optimus nvidia?
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10:28<lord_rob>Hi! I've formatted a new partition with mkfs.ntfs, but I cannot set its type to NTFS using cfdisk (this type is not on the list). Am I missing something?
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11:39<ach>i am sorry i know what wanted but my system is attackable cause... ? gksu fail and sudo but i will use the mate hack so it's fixed
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16:53<rwp>user01, Sorry but that was the only thing I could think of. When you say configure your keyboard, I am naive and wonder why it doesn't just work? What keys are wrong for you?
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17:15<KombuchaKip>I am having issues remotely logging in via SSH into one of my Debian machines using public key authentication. The login user has an encrypted home directory. The directory isn't mounted until after login. I can at least login via public key authentication by setting AuthorizedKeysFile in sshd_config to a static location for the user. That works to login, but now the home directory isn't mounted - likely because it needs the password. Id
17:15<KombuchaKip>eas?
17:18<ach>incredible wrong i don't understand ssh without user login?
17:19<ach>!ssh
17:19<dpkg>[ssh] the Secure SHell; "aptitude install ssh" (<openssh>). Clients for other platforms include <putty> and <cygwin>. Programs to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your SSH server include <fail2ban> and <denyhosts>. See also <scp>, <sftp>, <ssh without password>, <ssh permissions>, <sshx>, <ssh linedraw>, <debug sshd>, <dropbear>, <ssh-copy-id>, <ssh verify key>.
17:22<ach>so you ask for a script to mount home?
17:24<KombuchaKip>ach: http://forevercached.syphzero.net/2016/04/on-ecryptfs-and-ssh-public-key.html
17:24<KombuchaKip>ach: He explains the problem. But I don't like his solution of leaving the home directory mounted indefinitely.
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17:25<KombuchaKip>ach: Apparently this is a very common problem. I don't know if anyone has solved it because ecryptfs can only authenticate with a passphrase from what I can tell.
17:25<KombuchaKip>ach: https://www.unixtutorial.org/passwordless-ssh-with-encrypted-homedir-in-ubuntu/
17:26<ach>well therotically i know
17:26<ach>for use this
17:27<KombuchaKip>ach: Pray, do tell.
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17:28<ach>far off i would just automount a truecrypt booter
17:30<ach>so saved the pw on the hardrive
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17:31<KombuchaKip>ach: If I have to save the password on the remote machine in plaintext it defeats the whole purpose of encrypting the home directory in the first place.
17:32<ach>no
17:32<ach>pw not uncrypted
17:33<ach>but before finishing the login to the home directory you have to start truecrypt as that user with automount home
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17:36<KombuchaKip>ach: I think TrueCrypt, and correct me if wrong, is non-free?
17:36<blast007>KombuchaKip: I'd recommend not taking any advice from ach
17:36<ach>no
17:38<KombuchaKip>ach: TrueCrypt is non-free and abandonware. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueCrypt#License_and_source_model
17:39<ach>it is an non mili against freeware
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17:40<ach>you can help protect it
17:41<ach>but also you don't get it the straight way
17:42<KombuchaKip>ach: I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
17:44<ach>!tired
17:44<dpkg>[tired] a state of conciesness between soda and coffee
17:45<ach>if you want i will give you the link
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17:49<KombuchaKip>ach: I have no idea what you're suggesting providing a link for. I don't know what "non mili" means.
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17:49<ach>!well
17:49<dpkg>That's a deep subject, ach.
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18:49<user01>rwp, keymaps are configured manually so I need to know which map goes to which key . . . I've never known that to be automatic, that is always asked on install -- usually the default for the laptop or region is used I think.
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18:57<rwp>user01, Thanks for that information. I guess I have always chosen the language at installation time and therefore have been able to be naive later. :-)
18:59<rwp>user01, Note that one should be able to "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and use the dialog there to reconfigure it. However I know that wasn't your question as you were trying to locate the correct choice to choose.
19:00<user01>rwp, well im putting it on hold for now as i need to get a ps/2 to usb adapter because the computer Im working on doesnt have a ps/2 port
19:01<rwp>Ah, yes, that would be a problem. Newer machines have dropped a lot of older ports.
19:02*sdk still prefer ps/2 vs. usb for his keyboard
19:02<sdk>:)
19:03<rwp>KombuchaKip, If your $HOME is encrypted and not decrypted until after you log in then you will never be able to use $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys to log in. But you can check sshd_config for AuthorizedKeysFile because one can configure it to use keys from a different location that is available.
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19:04<user01>i have a AT 5 PIN DIN keyboard too
19:04<user01>it was never used but i dont know if it is even worth paying for an adapter for it
19:04<rwp>One of mine has the large DIN with an adapter to the smaller PS/2, with an adapter to get to USB.
19:04<KombuchaKip>rwp: Yeah, that's about as far as I got. I think the only way to make it work fully is if ecryptfs was patched to allow other methods of authentication besides plain text passphrase to mount the home directory.
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19:05<rwp>KombuchaKip, I am not familar with an encrypted automounted $HOME. Haven't ever done that. My laptops are fully encrypted file systems. I type in the LUKS passphrase at boot time.
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19:06<KombuchaKip>rwp: I would prefer that option, but because this is a headless system I don't have physical access to, LUKS at boot is a non-option.
19:07<rwp>KombuchaKip, You might set "PermitRootLogin without-password" and allow root to log in using ssh keys. Then allow root to decrypt your home. Then you can log in as you on a second pass.
19:08<rwp>KombuchaKip, I haven't gone there yet but friends tell me to check out the "mandos" package. It's on my short list to play with soon.
19:09<KombuchaKip>rwp: The problem with authenticating as root is root still needs to enter the passphrase for the user's home directory to unmount and the only way it can do that is if it stores it in plaintext which is a no-go
19:09<KombuchaKip>rwp: I looked for mandos with apt but see no package.
19:10<rwp>,v mandos
19:10<judd>Package: mandos on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.5.5-1; jessie: 1.6.9-1; stretch: 1.7.15-1; sid: 1.7.20-1
19:10<KombuchaKip>rwp: Could be it's just not available on my distro (raspbian stretch)
19:11<rwp>Ohh.... But you are in #debian so I can only assume you are running Debian until we know otherwise. :-)
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19:11<KombuchaKip>rwp: Well, it is Debian, just a derivative.
19:12<rwp>I am very familiar with Raspbian. But derivatives of Debian are still not Debian.
19:12<blast007>!raspbian
19:12<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
19:12<KombuchaKip>Thanks guys. Back to my book.
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